comments/comments_qu0w9i.csv

comment_id,post_id,post_title,body,score,created_utc
hkn7t90,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",No one that still supports Trump will ever vote for Pence.,7949,2021-11-14 22:15:32
hkna9qe,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Even for non Trump republicans, Pence has the stink of Trump on him. Dudes the most unelectable VP since Dan Quayle.",3804,2021-11-14 22:32:46
hkn88zr,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],1518,2021-11-14 22:18:35
hknlr37,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","A fly landed on his head. That became a viral meme. Add that to the nutjobs not liking him (they want to lynch him, lol) and his career is practically over.",1176,2021-11-14 23:55:10
hkna0oj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Lol who is telling Pence that anyone wants him to be President?

The Left hates him and most of the Right REALLY hates him.

It’d be wonderful if he ran because it would totally fuck with Trump but I can’t help but wonder who from his side of the aisle is telling him this is a good idea.",930,2021-11-14 22:31:01
hknpeyo,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Fuck it's hilarious that something as simple and unpredictable as a fly landing on a person's head while on television can totally scupper their public image.  Good riddance to the spineless twat.,728,2021-11-15 00:22:21
hkn8hdh,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Trump has not changed since before he was POTUS. By his own admission he has not changed since he was a kid. Surely Pence knew him well enough already by campaign time. Why is he only ashamed now?,627,2021-11-14 22:20:12
hknmgqf,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","The fact that Pence still thinks he has a political future is fucking hilarious. He was literally just a religious shield for a bigot, that wasn't likable enough to have won his own statewide reelection and was forced into the shitty role of shielding Trump. Even if Trump was successful and won a second term Pence had no political future.",627,2021-11-15 00:00:29
hknl2xl,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",That's 44% too many.,601,2021-11-14 23:50:15
hkngzp2,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",You made your bed now get fucked in it.,470,2021-11-14 23:20:46
hkoisbj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It’s not so much that it landed on his head, it’s that he made zero effort to swat it off, remained robotically still to the point that i don’t know if the fly even realized he was alive and not just a piece of shit, and he just let it sit there for what seemed like minutes without even acknowledging it.",453,2021-11-15 04:13:07
hknbqd7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Noe.,439,2021-11-14 22:42:48
hkny3m7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",The crazies in the republican base believe flies are drawn to some people because they smell like death. When it happened to Obama years back they claimed it was a sign that he's a literal demon or the antichrist.,369,2021-11-15 01:29:45
hkoalfi,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","[""I'm told her and Obama just stink. Obama and Hilary both smell like sulfur.""](https://youtu.be/KGAAhzreGWw?t=76)

Alex Jones' craziness, put to music by Nick Lutsko. I kind of hate how much I love this song, lol.

""Literal vampire potbelly goblins are hobbling around coming after us.""",358,2021-11-15 03:05:51
hkna5i0,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",He will pull the party line and smile and eat trump's shit like he did before.,355,2021-11-14 22:31:57
hkoggye,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Exactly.  Not to mention there are Trump copy-cats running that the rest of the party *is* supporting.  If you're a Republican, you are either getting Donald Trump or Diet Donald Trump.

And lets be real.  The remaining ~~66%~~ 56% are going to step in line if Trump wins the primary.  Not having a spine is the Republican way.",292,2021-11-15 03:53:10
hkndn3t,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Only 44% of Republicans want Trump to run again:

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ft_2021.10.06_trumpfuture_01a.png?w=620",263,2021-11-14 22:56:18
hknymxi,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Poaching his voters?  The ""hang Mike Pence"" crowd?  Those ones?  Let me know how that works out for you, pal.",245,2021-11-15 01:33:55
hkn85gw,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",So mother wont be voting for trump?,241,2021-11-14 22:17:53
hko7ngt,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Dan Quayle convinced Pence not to refuse to certify the election. So while he may be the most unelectable VP since Quayle, Pence is not as wise as him, spelling issues aside.",235,2021-11-15 02:42:36
hknbgom,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","remember in the beginning where they kept making the excuse, he's not a career politician, give him some time to learn diplomacy. They either didn't want to acknowledge it or were stupid enough to believe they could wrangle in El Douche.",222,2021-11-14 22:40:57
hknteoa,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Lol yup, reminds me of Jeff Sessions. Trump was verbally abusing Sessions on the regular and Sessions STILL kissed Trump's ass and campaigned as a MAGA candidate when trying to win back his old Senate seat. This is the same groveling for Trump's affection that I'm seeing from Pence. Totally pathetic.",217,2021-11-15 00:53:02
hkn8vq3,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Trump is no one's friend. He would sell anyone out if it benefited him.,198,2021-11-14 22:22:59
hknhizs,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",The had like 16 alternatives in 2016 and Trump picked them all off one by one.,187,2021-11-14 23:24:40
hkoa4kh,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I love how Pence was like ""What would Dan Quayle do?""",181,2021-11-15 03:02:08
hknawas,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",… but can he spell potato?,160,2021-11-14 22:37:02
hkonlz1,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",That fly is his closest supporter. No way he can shoo it away.,146,2021-11-15 04:57:32
hknejmu,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’m in a bad mood and don’t want to laugh at anything. Damn you.,145,2021-11-14 23:02:57
hkopejj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","So full disclosure - I haven't sat down and read Revelations cover to cover.

But as a non-believer, I kind of look at the fly incident and other stuff and am just like...all of this is resolving my biggest issues with the plot of Revelations and the rapture.

Like, so the idea is that a dictator comes to power, marks people with his sign, everyone signs up believing that he is the true representative of Christiandom, and so on.

This is so not believable - why would Christians everywhere embrace a false Messiah who in words and deeds does everything he can to act as anti-Christian as is possible, but nonetheless all of the Christians claim he is the true paragon of their faith.

Like, the plot never made sense to me. How could that ever happen?

But all of this actually legit lines up with Trump. He commits every sin you can imagine, and Christians are lining up to declare him a literal prophet.

It's wild, the times we live in.",131,2021-11-15 05:15:24
hknc9gx,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","**The Republican Playbook**

______

Cowardice + deflection --> normalization

(rinse and repeat)

_____

Bonus: shamelessly project everything you're guilty of onto your percieved enemies.",114,2021-11-14 22:46:36
hkomku1,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Because Quayle is one of two men on the planet with experience as Vice President who would actually speak to him.

Quayle and Cheney are the only still living former Republican VPs.  I mean, you're not going to have Biden (lol) or Gore answer any questions about how to prevent Joe Biden from claiming the presidency.  

It was bizarre hearing that Dan Quayle was still alive, but it makes 100% perfect sense why a VP looking to do something outside of his power would attempt to talk to a former VP.",107,2021-11-15 04:47:47
hkogs3x,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","He was an arrogant bully in 2016 and Republicans ate it up. He still is and if anything, the party has gotten more extreme since then.",106,2021-11-15 03:55:46
hkokinn,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",They *are* notoriously fans of voter fraud.,105,2021-11-15 04:28:31
hknzzhf,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","If it's a big field then 44% can be enough to win the primaries and that's without any of the 22% who still want him as a major figure but think he should back someone else who shares his views. If he does run again he needs just under a third of that 22% to get a majority of Republicans supporting him.

For reference [Biden won 51.79% of the 2020 primary votes](http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/D), [Trump won 44.95% of the 2016 primary votes](http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/R), and [Hillary won 55.23% of the 2016 primary votes.](http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D)",103,2021-11-15 01:44:14
hkognk9,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I can’t for the life of me conceive what it is about trump that inspires such loyalty when he consistently offers none in return,101,2021-11-15 03:54:42
hkn8sph,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",So do you think Pence’s spine holds out long enough to endorse Trump 3 months or 4 months before the general election?,100,2021-11-14 22:22:25
hkonkpj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I thought it was something on my screen. I was so confused. That was hilarious.,94,2021-11-15 04:57:12
hkojfo9,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Might be at war with Iran right now if he had called Dick Cheney.,92,2021-11-15 04:18:49
hkokwui,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I will always believe that if COVID didn't bust out on the scene in January 2020, we would be at war with Iran right now.  There was a reason why Trump's people were all aghast that he took out Soleimani.  Other countries don't tend to take it lightly when you assassinate their leaders and call them evil... even if those leaders are looking to attack you.",91,2021-11-15 04:32:08
hkol24j,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Pence asked ""Is there a way I can do it?""  and Quayle essentially said ""no, dummy, your role is entirely ceremonial at this point and there is literally no leeway in your power to do anything about the votes.",90,2021-11-15 04:33:29
hkoqg4l,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It all lines up because Revelations wasn't just describing some whacky, future bizarro universe where some unsavory individual usurps undue authority by whipping a population into a frenzy. Populist demagogues aren't a new thing. In fact they're, like, one of the oldest things.",86,2021-11-15 05:25:59
hknd6en,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Trump said he only has male friends so he can sleep with their wives.,84,2021-11-14 22:52:59
hknvfkz,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I hope he doesn't. And I hope Harris is kept far away from the ticket.,84,2021-11-15 01:09:02
hknhajq,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",What.. 70 million for Dump and 1 for him?  Pence probably could not even win a single state primary even if trump wasn’t running.,82,2021-11-14 23:23:02
hkohcj9,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It's fairly common imagery in literature, paintingS, and movies for a fly landing on someone to signify to devil.

In other words, it was just so damn on the nose it felt like we were in a script.",82,2021-11-15 04:00:39
hko2pcd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I mentioned in another thread that Trump's inspires a type of codependency in the people with whom he surrounds himself.,80,2021-11-15 02:04:57
hkoi9r7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I love Bon Iver, and no joke I consider this a Tier 1 Bon Iver song, even if he didn't write it and everything about Alex Jones mostly sucks.",80,2021-11-15 04:08:35
hkp06xx,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Seems like Mike Pence should start with being ashamed of Mike Pence before he branches out to other people.,77,2021-11-15 07:15:17
hknvpxl,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Mike Pence exudes the same level of raw charisma normally associated with a dumpster full of diapers,77,2021-11-15 01:11:18
hkorwkm,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I figure his hair is so jelled and stiff that he never even felt it.,75,2021-11-15 05:41:00
hknbf4w,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Pence couldn't poach a doped up elephant that is asleep in front of him.,73,2021-11-14 22:40:40
hkni521,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","For an *incumbent President who lost an election*, that is still massively, massively popular for being less than four years out from the defeat. Think about how many Republicans were still fedayeen for H.W. Bush or Democrats for Carter after they flubbed their respective reelections. They were totally out of the conversation for future nomination immediately and permanently.",71,2021-11-14 23:29:03
hkn9e9d,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Ashamed of Trump? Look in the mirror. You're the fucking ghost of lapdogs past. You were warrant and sanction for every vile 'idea' Trump executed on, if you can call the spasmodic reactions of an unreformed reptile ideas. I don't know how you ever convince Mother to remove the bundling board again.",67,2021-11-14 22:26:36
hkncz04,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[Not every Republican supports Trump](https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ft_2021.10.06_trumpfuture_01a.png?w=620).  I'd wager that simply having a few alternatives would be a relief to many of them.,65,2021-11-14 22:51:31
hkojh0r,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",A crippling mental image to be sure.,65,2021-11-15 04:19:08
hknhh6f,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Do you think Mike Pence would even vote for Mike Pence in an election where Trump was on the ballot? I doubt it.,64,2021-11-14 23:24:19
hkohndi,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",...That's 110%.,64,2021-11-15 04:03:16
hkoir8l,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I can't for the life of me figure out how people fall into cults but lots of otherwise intelligent-seeming people do. 

Human interactions bewilder me.",64,2021-11-15 04:12:51
hkok6rr,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I know it's a joke song but it's such a banger,63,2021-11-15 04:25:29
hko0xpf,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Both attract flies too.,62,2021-11-15 01:51:30
hknbtwi,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I think a Pence / Romney ticket would be a delight to watch. Watch them get pilloried, that is.",60,2021-11-14 22:43:31
hkoc3i8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Trump was also a blank slate in 2016. He'll be defending his abysmal four years in office throughout the entire primary. It would be interesting to see how well the hits land from someone who was actually there.,60,2021-11-15 03:17:59
hkpafjd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Right behind Mother.,58,2021-11-15 09:35:14
hkojr66,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","> Dan Quayle convinced Pence not to refuse to certify the election

Seriously? That may be the most positive thing I've ever heard about Dan Quayle.",56,2021-11-15 04:21:37
hkow8li,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",It was a truly glorious moment in election history,55,2021-11-15 06:28:06
hknrut0,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Yes but if Trump gets the nomination most will still support him over Biden.,53,2021-11-15 00:40:52
hknaomk,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","No one, this is just more BS. Like when articles would talk about this and that congressperson or senator standing up to Trump before. Non did unless they had already declared they were not running for reelection. They will bow to whomever takes the primary and be vague on who they support before then",52,2021-11-14 22:35:36
hknyklc,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Harris is going to be a drag on the ticket.  The Right obv hates her and the Left isn’t exactly overjoyed either.  Such a weird pick,52,2021-11-15 01:33:25
hkocquq,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Honestly, nobody and that's a huge problem. The democrats have a problem with the geriatrics in power refusing to prepare the next generation to replace them. They should be finding the younger talent in the party and marketing the hell out of them to sell the American people on them.

That said, I actually think Phil Murphy would be a pretty good choice. He's 64 which would normally be considered old, but these days it's practically a whippersnapper.",52,2021-11-15 03:23:10
hkodk3p,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I don’t believe for one minute Pence feels shame. Republicans are devoid of shame.,49,2021-11-15 03:29:30
hknd9ie,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",He probably would have gamed that out before he registers his candidacy.,49,2021-11-14 22:53:36
hkoimh0,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","His smile is so cold and disingenuous.  If somebody I thought was a friend smiled at me that way, my reaction would be to go for the nearest weapon.",49,2021-11-15 04:11:42
hkotg0r,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",">why would Christians everywhere embrace a false Messiah who in words and deeds does everything he can to act as anti-Christian as is possible, but nonetheless all of the Christians claim he is the true paragon of their faith.

Have you SEEN christians? Worshiping a false prophet who lives for greed, arrogance, cruelty, and child abuse is the LEAST surprising thing a member of the christian death cult could possibly do.  The idea of christians even having the slightest idea what their imaginary savior supposedly preached, let alone actually living by those standards, is so absurd it's laughable.

LONG before combover caligula, if anyone needed to find the most petty, cruel, uncharitable, dishonest, morally bankrupt hypocritical abusive pedophilic piece of shit within a hundred miles, they'd never need to look any further than whatever christian church has the most room for all the dead men's bones...",49,2021-11-15 05:57:20
hkpl34h,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Mother's support is conditional. A fly's endorsement is pure and uncompromising.,49,2021-11-15 12:00:26
hkod88l,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",From what I heard she wasn’t too happy Trump won in the first place,48,2021-11-15 03:26:55
hkosa09,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","The irony of the situation was that Trump never even needed a religious shield or a figure to appeal to evangelical whites, because they would have fervently supported him anyway.. because ultimately, it’s never really been about the Jesus with these folks.

Trump figured this out pretty early on I think. Pence was about as useful as a pair of tits on a nun and was treated accordingly.",48,2021-11-15 05:44:57
hkooequ,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","gotta love these religious nutters.

Fly lands randomly on someone? Oh well they're obviously the devil.

Man lives his entire life as a gigantic ""fuck you"" to god? CLEARLY the second coming of christ.",48,2021-11-15 05:05:30
hknn7kk,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Nearly 100% of Republicans who voted for him in 2020 will vote for him again in 2024 if he runs, which is likely. Source: The number of Confederate flags in my city.",47,2021-11-15 00:05:56
hkoj8l9,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],47,2021-11-15 04:17:07
hkoq83w,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",">Because Quayle is one of two men on the planet with experience as Vice President who would actually speak to him.

Are we sure the number is that high? Cheney seemed pretty fed up with the Trump administration early on, and probably would have let the call go to voicemail, or maybe demanded that they meet in person on an upland game ranch.",46,2021-11-15 05:23:44
hknptbs,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",That’s exactly why I see signs around here with pence crossed off on the trump pence signs…,45,2021-11-15 00:25:18
hko0cl6,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes...Harris would not even come close to that.,45,2021-11-15 01:47:03
hkndx6r,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Only 44% of Republicans want Trump to run again.  32% want him out of politics:

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ft_2021.10.06_trumpfuture_01a.png?w=620",43,2021-11-14 22:58:23
hkncfp3,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",He'd have to check with Mother.,43,2021-11-14 22:47:51
hkogr6j,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Only if Mother told him to,42,2021-11-15 03:55:33
hknoct3,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","You leave Magic: The Gathering out of this, he did nothing wrong",42,2021-11-15 00:14:30
hkotaak,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Heaviest US war casualties since Vietnam at minimum. The man can’t even plan a sandwich properly, let alone something as intricate as a war. And judging by his Covid response (or lack there of) he’d insist on being in control and get many soldiers killed because of his stupidity.",42,2021-11-15 05:55:35
hko1shg,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Yep.

Sorry Pence (not really).  You're radioactive, and your political career is dead as a doornail.

But hey, at least you didn't die on 1/6!",41,2021-11-15 01:57:58
hknv7po,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I doubt Biden will run for reelection, myself.",41,2021-11-15 01:07:21
hkotles,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","And Kamala totally saw it. I wonder how hard it was for her not to say ""Hey Mike. You, ahhh, have something there.""",41,2021-11-15 05:58:57
hkopk2g,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","For GOP politicians, it's easy: they're political deadmeat if they publicly disagree with him. Look how his followers are gunning after Liz Cheney. Now you or I may look at that and say, ""well, guess I'll do the right thing anyway and pay the price by never holding office again."" But that's because we have principles other than self-enrichment. As for why he inspires such loyalty among GOP voters, that's more complicated. Personally I think he's what many of them aspire to be: loud, openly racist and misogynist, and able to do what he wants while thumbing his nose at ""elites"".",41,2021-11-15 05:16:58
hkocy58,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It's years away but current polls show Trump has the front runner.

>[Nearly 6 in 10 Republican voters surveyed — 58 percent — say they would vote to put the former president back on the ballot in 2024, suggesting the party is ready and willing to give Trump another chance after his 2020 loss to President Biden.](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573040-poll-trump-dominates-2024-republican-primary-field)

>No other potential 2024 Republican candidate comes close to matching Trump. Former Vice President Mike Pence notches a distant second place with 13 percent support among GOP voters, while Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a rising star in the Republican Party, scored only 9 percent support in a primary field that includes Trump.",40,2021-11-15 03:24:48
hkoawtm,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],38,2021-11-15 03:08:21
hkor8pa,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],38,2021-11-15 05:34:07
hkoa860,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],38,2021-11-15 03:02:56
hkopa0f,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I’m shocked as well, can you imagine if war was declared AND THEN we had to shutdown for Covid in March??

Would we have sent military through bases in Europe to Iran? Shifted them from Afghanistan? That would have been a logistical nightmare. 

Also factor in supply shortages for medical equipment, amongst other things...",38,2021-11-15 05:14:07
hkoin67,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","The verbage here is important. ""Might poach his voters"" is different than ""might poach his supporters"". There's a ton of people who voted for Trump who aren't in the super-MAGA crowd.",36,2021-11-15 04:11:52
hkncre7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",He could split the republican vote though.,36,2021-11-14 22:50:06
hkom2yf,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Instead of running for President, actually the best thing this guy could do for the country is tell the truth about what was going on behind the curtain of the circus we watched for four years and do what he can to have others in the GOP do the same.

First recruit of Mike Pence Presents: GOP Truth Tour 2024 should be Mitch “Yertle” McConnell.",35,2021-11-15 04:43:02
hkoa6cg,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",He’s a coward. He ain’t doing shit.,35,2021-11-15 03:02:32
hknhk16,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","They’d vote Desantis, Abbot, Cruz, or he’ll even MTG before anyone would vote for pence.. he’s probably the least liked Republican out there.",35,2021-11-14 23:24:52
hkoegdb,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Yeah but for some weird reason they didn't feel the same way when it happened to Pence. Crazy, that",35,2021-11-15 03:36:39
hkojfyj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","""What would Dan Quayle do?"" has very /r/brandnewsentence energy",34,2021-11-15 04:18:53
hknyds4,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Pence would get trounced in a primary.  DeSantis would eat him alive not to mention Nikki Haley.,34,2021-11-15 01:31:56
hknhg2y,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","My favorite was ""They will prove the election was rigged through the courts."" Now they have so many conspiracy theories from bamboo ballots to China controlling our thermostats it's hard to keep up.",32,2021-11-14 23:24:06
hkod7nz,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Trump was an unknown quantity in 2016. People bought into his rhetoric, and some of his biggest advocates at the time were saying he would be ""more presidential"" once he was done campaigning. That never happening is part of why he's the only president in the last century to have never had an approval rating 50% or higher.

I think a genuine primary opponent, who runs on being the ""not Trump"" candidate for Republicans, would at the very least split the vote enough that Trump being the candidate again means enough Republican voters stay home.",31,2021-11-15 03:26:47
hkosj6k,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Yeah I know Quayle is supposed to be a joke, but I think consulting predecessors is fine.  Probably something we should applaud even.",31,2021-11-15 05:47:37
hknd2az,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Because Trump tried to kill him.   That would make me mad too.,30,2021-11-14 22:52:11
hkna6yd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",6 months,30,2021-11-14 22:32:14
hknga8r,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","In ten years, pictures will leak of him sitting in a rocking chair in Mother's dress.",30,2021-11-14 23:15:37
hknd3dc,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Ah Mike “I don’t care if I win, as long as he doesn’t” Pence.",29,2021-11-14 22:52:24
hkpf2gd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],29,2021-11-15 10:42:00
hkne0xb,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Exactly, god fearing corrupt man on his knees foe 4 years felating a godless man. Pence won’t even win a single state.

Burn in hell Pence!",28,2021-11-14 22:59:09
hknnqmg,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",1 million in the right places is enough to sway a close election.,28,2021-11-15 00:09:51
hkoesrg,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Not to put too fine a point on it, but people had a basic idea of what sort of nonsense the phrase President Trump would spawn for longer than I and most reading this comment have been alive. The only way you can honestly claim that him being a living breathing shitshow of a president is surprising is if either you are referencing the scale of the fuckfuck circus or you have been kicked in the head by a horse. Or perhaps, more appropriately, a giant Fox.",28,2021-11-15 03:39:29
hkp101u,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","That’s also why they hate Pope Francis. I mean, how *dare* a religious figure do something as heinous as advocating *helping the poor*…",28,2021-11-15 07:25:24
hkonshf,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Well, Pence wasn't pushing policies like the ACA.  If you get anywhere near anything remotely socialist, they will find any and every crazy reason to hate you.  I think they were more threatened by Obama than most because he was an excellent orator and, overall, extremely charismatic.  I.e., a very, very real danger to the direction they wanted to take the country in.

As for what they *said* about Obama, the specific gripes I heard from conservatives IRL, apart from the expected ""SOCIALIST!"" stuff, is that he was too vague and indistinct.  Lots of ""could would should"" without a clear plan, like ""nobody should ever be forced to ABC"", ""everyone should be able to DEF"", or ""we can GHI!"".  Many of them felt he was a demagogue.  I never met anyone in real life who bought into the crazy shit--at least not in that era.

Today's conservatives, though... I have met plenty who believe all sorts of crazy.  Even some educated and otherwise intelligent conservatives.",27,2021-11-15 04:59:19
hkoy2c2,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Oh boy, this should be a fun read for you.

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/",27,2021-11-15 06:49:28
hkopyrp,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Considering what Liz Cheney thinks about the current direction of the Republican Party, I doubt her father would want to speak with Pence either, haaa",27,2021-11-15 05:21:04
hknm7is,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Yeah, in their minds Pence didn’t do the deed, a traitor, infidel … even though his role is largely ceremonial under the constitutional requirements for electing a president. But that doesn’t matter to the “hang Mike Pence” crowd.",26,2021-11-14 23:58:33
hkndmu7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Maybe Pence was banking on Trump having a heart attack or something during his term.,26,2021-11-14 22:56:15
hkoomot,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","They're both from Indiana, which is probably why he looked to Quayle for advice.",26,2021-11-15 05:07:39
hkomt4j,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",They’re both Vice Presidents from indiana,26,2021-11-15 04:49:55
hknujk1,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I'm kinda onboard with that scenario though. I'm just kind of hoping the Dems run someone other than Biden or Harris in 2024.,25,2021-11-15 01:02:05
hkoq3cc,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’ve seen those in Ohio too. Somehow those are scarier than just the regular Trump flags.,25,2021-11-15 05:22:22
hkovyx2,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Like [The Ramp](https://youtu.be/ign_vZupjno),25,2021-11-15 06:25:00
hknif7v,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Character **feckeen MATTERS**.  I sound like my late great grandfather I guess—whom I was close with for a time.

I don’t understand the American so-called “Christians” being such rabid followers of Trump.

It baffles me",24,2021-11-14 23:31:07
hkp3ij8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Gotta wonder why a little bird landing on Bernie Sanders' podium in a middle of his speech isn't a clear sign from God to these people...?

...

Oh, right. I forgot. ""Shohsulism!""",24,2021-11-15 07:57:54
hknkbwx,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Pence was never a friend nor a partner.,23,2021-11-14 23:44:51
hkorxk0,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Lol EXACTLY. There's not a Trump voter alive who would jump to Pence.,23,2021-11-15 05:41:17
hkovv72,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","There's certainly some that needed the shield in 2016, 4 extra years of cult manipulation removed any need. I don't think Trump is smart enough to figure this out, he just proceeds forward no matter what.",23,2021-11-15 06:23:50
hkni8q6,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","meanwhile the guy that just won Governor in Virginia, his son was caught trying to vote twice at 17",23,2021-11-14 23:29:48
hknzrms,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","She has the same problem Hillary had, she’s just not the one",22,2021-11-15 01:42:31
hkox1qb,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",“Combover Caligula” lmfao,22,2021-11-15 06:37:30
hkoe2ij,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Given the choice, conservative Christians would vote for Trump, who embraces the seven deadly sins as a lifestyle, over Pence.",21,2021-11-15 03:33:32
hkoly33,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Yes but why did he ask Dan Quayle? Bizarre,21,2021-11-15 04:41:46
hkossbd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It's the rising harmony on the ""ahh""s that do it",21,2021-11-15 05:50:17
hkonuw5,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Because he's as racist as the ones who follow him. And open about it.,20,2021-11-15 05:00:00
hkp2rb8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",That's what he keeps telling himself anyway to boost his own ego. I **highly** doubt it ever actually happened.,20,2021-11-15 07:48:09
hko9ain,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Anyone who cared about the fly already hated Pence.,20,2021-11-15 02:55:29
hko9xbs,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","they all have punishment boners. They want to stand in judgement of ""earthly crimes"" and dole out heavenly punishment. 

a lot of their bullshit makes sense when you look at it like that.",19,2021-11-15 03:00:30
hko24bv,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","And it's not just the presidency.  Think about the SCOTUS right now if it wasn't for Nader/Stein.

You're also talking 2 decades of actually believing in climate change.

Not to mention no war in -Afghanistan- (Edit: I meant Iraq), with all those wasted lives and billions/trillions of dollars.",19,2021-11-15 02:00:29
hko7b3a,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Boy would I love to see that debate,18,2021-11-15 02:39:57
hkoajsa,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’m sure it’s kind of hard to repair a relationship when your boss sent an angry mob to your work place to hang you… aWkWaRd,18,2021-11-15 03:05:30
hkp2coj,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Mother doesn’t do that sort of thing.,18,2021-11-15 07:42:51
hkowd3g,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","It's a year into Biden's term and still 8 out of 10 top r/politics articles are about Trump every damn day. Given the chance, the media will lift him up again. They never stopped.",18,2021-11-15 06:29:34
hkp3244,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Yeah my reading of the scenario was less about the fact that a fly landed on his head and more about his robotic (non)reaction to it. It’s like he wanted so hard to maintain his presentation that it came across as off-putting. Again, my take on it, and more than a little biased. Idk what most people got out of it beyond just a fun opportunity to make memes",18,2021-11-15 07:51:56
hknizll,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",The planet is dying. I hope that helps!,18,2021-11-14 23:35:09
hko77ob,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I don’t really like to use this term, but that dude is a straight up cuckold",17,2021-11-15 02:39:13
hknrnzl,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Are you expecting him to run 3rd party in the general election?,17,2021-11-15 00:39:24
hko974o,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Remember when that error was enough to disqualify someone from being president? Something as simple as a spelling test? I miss those days,16,2021-11-15 02:54:44
hko9mu8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Who else is a realistic option?,16,2021-11-15 02:58:13
hko93ek,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Pence's probability of success in a Presidential bid is close to zero.

That said, a Pence Presidency is a terrifying idea for the country.",15,2021-11-15 02:53:54
hknymgy,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I think the idea is to split the vote in order to secure a win for not-Trump,15,2021-11-15 01:33:49
hkory43,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",yeah but that is never going to happen with the way Trump hates both of those guys. His voters will never vote for Romney or Pence. They'd more likely split the vote by writing in Trump if one of them somehow won the primary.,15,2021-11-15 05:41:27
hkom37k,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I doubt it changed any minds. Nobody watching the debate changed their mind about him because of the fly. It was just fun for people who hated him to get a good laugh out of it.,15,2021-11-15 04:43:06
hkohdgz,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Here's the thing, Mikey boy.  Everything that you could be ashamed of him for stems from traits that were known *well before* y'all were elected.  You weren't ashamed of him when you were riding his coattails into the VP slot.  You're only ashamed now that there's no chance in hell that he'll knowingly benefit you anymore.

Get bent.",14,2021-11-15 04:00:52
hko4lsu,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Mike Pence will bend over for Trump.  Hes a lapdog, has always been a lapdog, will always be a lapdog.",14,2021-11-15 02:19:22
hkndibq,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Trump supporters would chop off Pence’s feet to keep him from running in 2024.,14,2021-11-14 22:55:20
hkodoa5,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","No he couldn't. No one is voting for Pence. Diehard Trump supporters don't like him, and everyone else is indifferent to his existence.",14,2021-11-15 03:30:24
hknmw59,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","""Any day now, he's gonna pivot to being presidential!""",14,2021-11-15 00:03:37
hkp0tca,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Trump isn't really a picture of health, it wasn't an outlandish bet.",14,2021-11-15 07:23:01
hkokjd3,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",When is he going to jail? That’s right-NEVER. Sounds about white.,14,2021-11-15 04:28:43
hkobg4q,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Imagine the level of shitbag you have to be for Mike Fucking Pence to be ashamed of you…,13,2021-11-15 03:12:38
hkoq0t3,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Not only that, he had some kind of ocular covid symptoms at the time, too. Dude looked like the walking dead. That's what really made the meme",13,2021-11-15 05:21:38
hknha9q,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew.",13,2021-11-14 23:22:58
hkp1gvm,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","I'm honestly more concerned about De Santis and the copycats. They scare me far more than Trump does. Trump is a pompous clown, not a capable psychopath.",13,2021-11-15 07:31:26
hkp7956,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Sent this to my super Christian, Trump supporter father, he claimed that it was cherry picked to make it sound like Trump to make him look bad. I was amazed.",13,2021-11-15 08:49:02
hko791o,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’m surprised Mother let him say something so brazen.,12,2021-11-15 02:39:30
hko0s09,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Everyone is shitting on this idea like the Democrats wouldn’t be on a 20 year undefeated presidential streak if Jill Stein and Ralph Nader knew how to fuck off. Idc if he takes a tenth of a percent, god forbid Cheeto Mussolini ever hold power again.",12,2021-11-15 01:50:18
hknbq31,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Powtaytow,12,2021-11-14 22:42:45
hkoivrx,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",The fly was just the “cherry” on top of a turd sandwich,12,2021-11-15 04:13:58
hkojy8y,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",[deleted],12,2021-11-15 04:23:22
hknszc9,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Mostly agree, but he generally won’t enter a situation where he doesn’t have the crowd tightly controlled in his favor.  Two exceptions that immediately come to mind were the UN laughing at him, and the baseball crowd booing him.  Rally detractors were removed, he repeatedly tried to kick out pressers willing to spar with him.  His interviews with fox with them trying to throw softballs at him that he still dropped…. 
 
His apparent charisma comes in creating a situation where detractors  are in the minority.  I hated how often he uses appealing to the masses to create the illusion his radical claims weren’t pulled out of thin air. There seems to be a group think cult atmosphere that silences people from saying “that doesn’t sound right.”",12,2021-11-15 00:49:42
hkp6vn7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Only because the wives would say no. I bet Ghouliani asked his wife.,12,2021-11-15 08:43:43
hkpho8e,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","That’s his appeal. All the gaslighting, lies, speaking to people like their idiots; that’s how the media and politicians treat the citizenry. 

He treats the media and other politicians like that. It would be funny if he wasn’t such a stupid idiot loose corrupt cannon that doesn’t even fire correctly.",12,2021-11-15 11:17:49
hkoqgdn,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",The other replies covered it.  But I’d like to add how bizarre it was in the first place that that conversation with Quayle meant Mike Pence was still having thoughts at that point about not certifying the election.  Also scary to think about .,12,2021-11-15 05:26:04
hkpmxi0,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Fun fact: His hair is manufactured by Lego—no other company can produce plastic parts that so consistently, satisfactorily lock to his head!",11,2021-11-15 12:21:25
hkocvl7,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Mike Pence has a ton of faults and delusions. the GOP installed him to mind Trump and keep him on the rails.  He has failed spectacularly at every job he was given, 

But one. 

Mike Pence, for all his flaws, did the RIGHT thing on January 6th, 2020. He may have done it for the wrong reasons, but we at least owe him that much.",10,2021-11-15 03:24:13
hkofde8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’m not giving Pence credit for acting as the Constitution allowed on January 6th. I hate when the bar gets lowered for something like this.,10,2021-11-15 03:44:06
hkp885l,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",You mean his cousin?,10,2021-11-15 09:03:16
hkp5k1p,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","People don't realise that Mike Pence single handedly saved the United States from Donald Trump, destroying his career in the process.",9,2021-11-15 08:25:18
hkon5wd,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",No but mother will continue to change diapies,9,2021-11-15 04:53:15
hkolzh8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Blackmail.,9,2021-11-15 04:42:07
hkocq7r,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",At least the diapers didn't *start out* full of 💩,9,2021-11-15 03:23:02
hkp6eu5,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I get close to that evil and my spirit goes ahhh ahhh ahhhh,9,2021-11-15 08:37:02
hkncm2d,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",I’m ashamed of both.,8,2021-11-14 22:49:04
hkold9d,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Pence will get destroyed in a Republican primary. He doesn't have nearly enough racist tweets to carry a significant portion of the vote.,8,2021-11-15 04:36:20
hkolsu1,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Dear God is Mike Pence somehow the good guy of the Trump administration? That’s how you know you’re beyond fucked up.?,8,2021-11-15 04:40:24
hko9krl,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",PLEASE do. Watching these two idiots split the party will literally be the best thing Republicans have done in 70 years,8,2021-11-15 02:57:45
hkninjl,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Indeed, that **is** the Republican playbook.  Points👍",8,2021-11-14 23:32:48
hkp6vui,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Society? That sounds like socialism.,8,2021-11-15 08:43:48
hkpnu95,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Probably not very,8,2021-11-15 12:31:13
hkp8l2j,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",It’s the same guy who called his daughter hot.,8,2021-11-15 09:08:26
hkokxq8,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","She still underperformed expectations because voters who should've been ""in the bag"" disliked her.

Not saying Harris would do better, in fact, I agree that she'd do worse.",8,2021-11-15 04:32:22
hknuijt,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","""Make America Great Again, Again"" face palm🤦🏽‍♂️🤦‍♀️",7,2021-11-15 01:01:51
hkop4jb,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","""Pence voters"" lmao okay. All 14 of them?",7,2021-11-15 05:12:36
hkna035,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",If Pence tries to run against trump i hope he has a top notch security detail.,7,2021-11-14 22:30:54
hknmjyk,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary","Haha damn, I guess that is a good reason.",7,2021-11-15 00:01:08
hkp12uz,qu0w9i,"Mike Pence 'Ashamed' of Trump, Might Poach His Voters in 2024 Election: Ex-Press Secretary",Pence probably just wants to look like he made the decision himself to not be Trump’s running mate.,7,2021-11-15 07:26:24