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ic580t7,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"> The powerful progressive New Yorker said she could not commit to supporting Biden during an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union, saying she was more focused on trying to preserve Democrats’ congressional majority in November’s midterms.

> “We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it,” Ocasio-Cortez said when asked directly if she would support Biden.

> “If the president has a vision and that’s something we’re all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes… we should endorse when we get to it. We’ll take a look at it.”

As usual, the article content doesn't match the title.  She's absolutely correct to focus on midterms, which are looming later this year, rather than 2024.

That being said, I wouldn't blame her one bit if she declined to endorse Biden even after midterms.",1319,2022-06-12 23:42:01
ic4cbny,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Congresswoman says she’s focused on trying to preserve Democrats’ congressional majority in November’s midterms,904,2022-06-12 19:26:39
ic4usof,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The problem with the modern Democratic Party is they are basically just the republican party before it completely lost it’s collective hive mind slurping up the infotainment driven bullshit that is Fox News.

The only way to remedy the current situation is ranked choice voting system that allows the majority of Americans to say “I want the progressive but worst case I’ll take the Democrat”… that being said we desperately need the republican party to hurry up and die or we have no hope for any meaningful improvement in this country.

I was also really hopeful for Fetterman, but that stroke recently is incredibly concerning for his long term success. We desperately need politicians like him that can win over blue collar voters.

Edit:clarity on when Fetterman had a stroke",485,2022-06-12 21:51:43
ic5wh22,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I don't think he wins. He might beat Trump if he's not charged and able to run, but even most of the left isn't thrilled. I think people would just vote to keep orange out.

Unfortunately the majority of Americans have the IQ of a sea cucumber and think Biden is solely responsible for world wide fuel prices to boot.",387,2022-06-13 03:23:41
ic4n5r5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"We don’t need someone in their 80s running the country, from either party",338,2022-06-12 20:50:53
ic4rzqp,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"National mainstream Democrats are utterly worthless. They won't take any meaningful action on any issue, solely to use it as a carrot for fundraising.",302,2022-06-12 21:29:15
ic67fyt,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Was recently trying to explain to some of my family, whom I I love deeply but also hate, that gas prices were a direct result of supply and demand after the pandemic shutdowns and how oil companies were trying to continually increase profits for their shareholders.

Literally got blank stares from them as if I was insane to accuse mega corporations of price gouging. I'm related to sea cucumbers, I guess. Some people are beyond help.",244,2022-06-13 05:22:19
ic4fj4y,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,She should run.,213,2022-06-12 19:51:38
ic4wdkx,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Ranked choice will mean nothing if we don't curtail the influence of money in the political sphere. It's actually financial malpractice at this point to *not* just buy politicians.

Happily it's a problem we have solved before, if on a different level.",177,2022-06-12 22:04:26
ic4x5fu,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"We don't need someone with a *mentality* from decades ago running the country, *age* be damned.",169,2022-06-12 22:10:45
ic4u8fo,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Spoiler: there will be a Trump analog or worse, it might even be Trump, again. The Dems will again try to coronate a donor-safe candidate no one wants, it might even be Hillary, again.

No matter who wins progressives and leftists will be blamed for all Dem failures and then told we just need to Vote Harder next time, again.",151,2022-06-12 21:47:14
ic4o8gk,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Yeah and have Bernie as her VP. He could act as her experienced ""foil"" to cover for the ""too young"" argument that was used against Obama which Biden functioned for along with calming the blue dog racist southern democrat voting block. In Bernie's case that would be calls by fox screaming that she is a Nazi and antisemitic also for criticizing Israel for having a apartheid state. Which you know would be obviously stupid with the most well know jewish senator as your running mate.",145,2022-06-12 20:59:24
ic53d15,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,She didn’t refuse anything. Said something along the lines of “she’d cross that bridge when she gets to it.” Which is fair. Why are words so manipulated?,130,2022-06-12 23:02:05
ic4qcji,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"With inflation and increased political divide, I’m not even entirely sure Biden will get a second term. He should just resign after his first term and have someone else run. That would be a huge plot twist for both Democrats and Republicans.

Now that Trump is gone, I, along with millions of others, are not going to vote for the lesser evil anymore unless Trump is running again.",109,2022-06-12 21:16:13
ic5lewd,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Give us someone young, someone exciting, someone truly progressive, someone who is going to follow through on the promises they tell us.",105,2022-06-13 01:41:56
ic5b0pq,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">	Ocasio-Cortez did tell CNN that she thought Biden was “doing a very good job so far” and didn’t rule out eventually backing him “if the president chooses to run again”.

Clickbait bullshit",101,2022-06-13 00:08:48
ic6p880,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Show them the article of Trump calling for a reduction in barrel output to really make their heads explode.,91,2022-06-13 09:41:55
ic4l9zv,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Man, if your plan is for every major progressive politician to wait until everyone who has heard negative propaganda about them dies off, and THEN they can run for president, what you're suggesting is that we simply never run a progressive candidate.

People can be swayed.

And probably the most effective avenue for swaying them is to have our candidates in primaries, where they have a national audience, where they're on every platform, so the people can actually hear directly from the candidate, and formulate their opinion based on their actual policies, positions, and words, rather than the negative propaganda.",90,2022-06-12 20:36:12
ic4t4xb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">We don’t need someone ~~in their 80s~~ above 70 ~~running the country,~~ serving in any national office from either party

There is a damned good reason there is a mandatory retirement age in some professions and it should absolutely be enforced for our national leaders. Hell, if it were up to me I'd do one better and also institute a mandatory maximum age for voting. It is completely ridiculous that our nation's future is being constantly dictated by people who will no  longer exist in that future.

That being said and looking around the halls of power I would absolutely vote for Bernie again in 2024. He's the only honest person in Washington and since we don't have the maximum age I think we need I'd absolutely vote honesty over age concerns.",79,2022-06-12 21:38:26
ic5u9kg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,The Democrats would rather lose than have anybody progressive as the nominee,76,2022-06-13 03:02:44
ic5tqt1,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I'd like the one where Al Gore wasn't robbed.,67,2022-06-13 02:57:50
ic6qelj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,No thanks. I have a hard enough time keeping my apt clean without trying to scrub their gray thinking goo out of my carpet.,66,2022-06-13 09:59:33
ic61wu5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],65,2022-06-13 04:19:15
ic5szxc,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I’d like to see the alternate reality in which he won the nomination in 2016 and beat Trump in the election.,63,2022-06-13 02:50:55
ic5sf60,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Bernie is all of those things, just not young.",60,2022-06-13 02:45:35
ic4knu5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Way too many democratic voters have fallen for the propaganda around her. She's going to have to keep grinding away where she is until she's outlived the older idiots that honestly believe in the corporate democrats.,57,2022-06-12 20:31:24
ic4jwx6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,AOC 2024,55,2022-06-12 20:25:36
ic4p3t8,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],54,2022-06-12 21:06:16
ic6j2iv,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Biden is the embodiment of the Boomers going 40 mph in the middle of the 70 mph highway with the turn blinker on the whole ride.,52,2022-06-13 08:07:40
ic4xvbt,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The way you phrased that last paragraph had me thinking Fetterman suffered a second stroke...

Bernie had a heart attack early in the 2020 campaign cycle and is just as sharp as ever. Fetterman should be fine if he listens to his doctors.",52,2022-06-12 22:16:38
ic4x3pn,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I wouldn’t mind AOC running. Most of her political stands I agree with. She’s a lot better choice than Biden that is for sure.,50,2022-06-12 22:10:22
ic55q2a,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Yeah. I'm done, too.  I will vote dem down the line except the presidential election.  ""But what about the Supreme Court?"" At this point, feeling kind of meh about that, too, it's hard for me to take beer judge and professor umbridge seriously, pubic hair coke can judge needs to step down due to being involved in coup to overthrow the government...not sure but I think he took some kind of oath to PROTECT THE COSTITUTION.  Not to worry, we can put him in jail after he invalidates his own marriage.  Anywho, tired of being a donkey chasing carrots.",44,2022-06-12 23:21:57
ic4lnn6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,She will be old enough to run in 2024.,44,2022-06-12 20:39:10
ic4ttaw,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Is there a leftist candidate you think would definitely win? If so, let's convince that person to run.

In the meantime, it is always of benefit to have a progressive candidate in every primary, because a progressive policy agenda sets the terms of the debate. It highlights problems that centrists won't even bring up if we don't have a progressive on the stage.

We need to keep our issues at the forefront of the national conversation.

And no, it wouldn't be shocking for a 34 year old representative woman of color to lose the primary. 

But maybe it familiarizes her to the country for next time. Or maybe it sets the stage for the next progressive standard-bearer.

We don't know what will happen. But we absolutely need as many progressive leaders on the national stage as often as possible.",41,2022-06-12 21:43:53
ic4svlh,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Something being obviously stupid stops neither Fox from screaming it nor Repubs from believing it.,38,2022-06-12 21:36:19
ic5b20t,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Please, inspire more people to ""get this"". As you note, we know how to get the job done, we need the rest to stop ignoring us.",37,2022-06-13 00:09:07
ic5fctx,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"This is the more important part. 

It’s more about their mind set and plans then it is about how old they actually are.",36,2022-06-13 00:47:31
ic60yi4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,dude it’s inevitable. we voted blue no matter who and it got us nowhere. thats because both sides represent one class of people. neither side gives a shit they just have to pretend to dislike each other so gullible americans think they have choices. we have no choices. stop being so naïve,35,2022-06-13 04:09:05
ic6smxo,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"You know I bet people are sick of their party demanding they toe the line. Two time now we watched the Dems steal the nom from Bernie. Twice now. Then told to vote dem to block trump. And guess what, we got another bank backed dem, woohoo.",34,2022-06-13 10:31:04
ic5yei1,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,An actual environmentalist as president would have been bizarre. It might have made the world a better place by now.,32,2022-06-13 03:42:41
ic61ot4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Shes one of the biggest fundraisers in the party,31,2022-06-13 04:16:56
ic5u7w4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,The reality where Democrats didn't stonewall and block Bernie from the nomination?,30,2022-06-13 03:02:18
ic4wz00,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"She won't, and I won't believe she will until she does.

I love AOC - even despite some of her missteps or faults - but people should not hang their hat on her. She already expressed she almost didn't run for re-election. Why would someone who nearly felt the burnout of her current position, who has stated she wants to stay in that position, run for president?

She knows she has a target on her back. Maybe she tries to rise beyond it because she feels like it's a calling she has no choice but to accept, but I think progressives need to massively diversify and bring up a broad spectrum of candidates rather than hope one person will be it.",29,2022-06-12 22:09:18
ic56cao,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Too real,29,2022-06-12 23:27:20
ic59rip,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,That is a ticket to automatically lose.,29,2022-06-12 23:57:32
ic5niso,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Click-bait,27,2022-06-13 02:01:01
ic4tivh,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Well that's better than Liz Warren staying in a race to throw grenades at him and try and siphon votes and do everything possible and stop him from winning in 2020.

At least AOC waiting till she's probably right and supported him when it was 100% his time.",26,2022-06-12 21:41:31
ic4sxf1,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,While I like her she would definitely lose,26,2022-06-12 21:36:43
ic59n52,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Desantis has been polling even higher than Trump. That to me is scary. 

I wouldn't doubt if Hillary made a run again, to be honest. If it isn't Biden then who does the establishment get behind? Buttigieg? Klobuchar? Harris doesn't have a rat's chance in hell. Bernie might run again, to be honest, but the establishment won't be behind him ever. I wonder if Michelle Obama has aspirations for the desk. 

I see this Nov being a red wave unless something big happens. That will solidly stall anything else from happening, then the totem pole will swing back to the right again.",26,2022-06-12 23:56:26
ic54k8v,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Good point, it’s a couple weeks ago. Still, I genuinely want to see that man become the President. The way he approaches things resonates with people in a way that the fuck faces at Fox can’t touch in any meaningful way. So I’m very hopeful the stroke is something he can recover from.",25,2022-06-12 23:12:03
ic74x7s,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The frustration in your comments is apparent and I'm sorry you have to endure that friction in family relationships because of their different version of reality (same boat for me) but ""scrub their gray thinking goo out of my carpet"" is a fucking hilarious thing to read and I'm stealing it lmao",25,2022-06-13 12:48:50
ic4w9cz,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Dude for real. Its fucking crazy. It's as simple as, would you trust someone in their 80s to be able to successfully manage your own pizza shop if you owned one? Or would you hire a capable and sharp younger adult? Exactly why the president of the country should be that fucking old.",24,2022-06-12 22:03:30
ic4jxr6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,100%,24,2022-06-12 20:25:47
ic4m2h7,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Ah you're right she makes it by 1 month!,24,2022-06-12 20:42:21
ic742d4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Or that alcohol sales were $42 billion in six months vs the $3billion in gun sales (2020). Alcohol resulted in about 99k deaths while gun deaths were at 46k in 2020. Record years for both industries, but “it’s too early for that” as I am told by my cucumbers.",22,2022-06-13 12:40:52
ic4jbjk,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Progressives are our best chance going forward I think. Republicans and Status-quo Democrats are all just full of shit and lackeys for corporations and lobbyists. We need to at least attempt to do something to help the lower and middle class for once. Time for the progressives to get their chance.,21,2022-06-12 20:20:59
ic4nhr3,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The Dems will do well to put together n understandable package of health care, immigration, and some measure of tax reform, and carefully explain them to the general public.  They will be up against an open sewer of GOP lies and misdirection that will be difficult to overcome.

I actually have little hope they can get their act together.  Biden's job was to beat Trump, but that isn't good enough this pass.  The rest of the lot seem to be wandering around in the dark.",20,2022-06-12 20:53:30
ic5jhg3,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I’ll literally take anyone born after 1960. Just give me someone that shouldn’t be retired at this point.,20,2022-06-13 01:24:34
ic50gbj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Sure they can put a package together. A package they won't do. And then they'll blame the fact that they can't do it on people in their own party, that they make no effort to get out of power.  Or they'll fail to even lift a finger to get their agenda through, like refusing to have the VP cast tie breaking votes. 

Don't you see?? They're 90s Republicans.",19,2022-06-12 22:37:44
ic58fly,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I'm Canadian and our politics here are the same nowadays. Our conservatives aren't as crazy as yours, but they have a crazy faction, and they are corporate sellouts. Our Liberal party are a lying sack of unkept promises that they dangle in front of everyone hoping to get elected again.

Politics have always been crazy, but now winning elections is the one and only goal. All policy is geared toward getting re-elected, or satisfying special interests that will provide a means to getting re-elected.",19,2022-06-12 23:45:36
ic6ec6n,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Exactly. It's that profit driven mindset about what's going to be better for the company that led to the decisions they made.

I'm not even necessarily taking an anti-capitalist stance here. I'm just surprised how many people have trouble accepting the reality that companies value profit above all else and how it always inevitably leads to situations like this.",19,2022-06-13 06:58:31
ic52rse,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">would you trust someone in their 80s to be able to successfully manage your own pizza shop if you owned one? 

I mean, it depends on the person. Some people in their 80s are still sharp and able to function. Not all of them are bed-bound invalids who don't remember where their feet are.",18,2022-06-12 22:57:08
ic57waa,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I can’t imagine a scenario in which Hillary runs again - but I feel everything about your sentiment. And it’s sucks. 

It’s all about the billionaire bought political fucks. I know the “but both sides” thing is a meme, but in these situations, it totally is true that they are bought and paid for - there is evil, and evil lite.",18,2022-06-12 23:40:54
ic6bfgj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I think the simple fact is that it’s cheaper/quicker to meet a Supply imbalance by raising prices than to hire all the laid off or furloughed employees (if they haven’t moved on) or hire all new staff for scale.

>	love deeply but also hate

LOL, classic am I right?",18,2022-06-13 06:18:03
ic6jvxb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"How much low-hanging fruit that would make Biden an instant legend has he passed up so far?

Solving student debt?

Federally decriminalizing weed? 

Attempting a large-scale four day workweek pilot project?

Trialling a universal basic income, to offset millions of food-insecure families?

Any other nobrainers he has ignored?",17,2022-06-13 08:20:18
ic4d447,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Not really a “refusal “ .,17,2022-06-12 19:32:45
ic634pe,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"It's not like he actually won the election, and then the supreme court appointed gwb instead.",17,2022-06-13 04:32:23
ic4mbmt,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I love you, AOC",16,2022-06-12 20:44:22
ic5tayh,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"This. 

You should not have to be a multimillionaire to so much as stand a chance at winning a supposedly democratically elected position. 

You should not be able to get several extra millions from hundreds of other groups with no real oversight. 

So long as this exists, there will never really be any real fair, unbiased elections. Whatever candidates the money wants will the the candidates. 

There needs to be some limits. Give every candidate enough money to be able to do a few debates, maybe make a few commercials and have a handful of rallies. They shouldn't be allowed any more money than that and being given more money from somewhere should mean the removal of their spot as a candidate.",16,2022-06-13 02:53:45
ic4idaj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I can't wait for the Democrats to cheat her out of the primary.,15,2022-06-12 20:13:38
ic4jvv4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">Biden though, is there any chance he might accidentally do something to help us in between now and 2024?

No, but conservatives aren't the answer to this. They're not going to do anything to help you, either.  

>I'm not a progressive

You can become one. Progressive / conservative / libertarian, etc -- these aren't identities we are born with. These are labels that we can change as our opinions change, as we learn and grow. And our opinions should be changing as we adapt to new circumstances and expand our awareness and empathy for other people.

Maybe some day you will call yourself a progressive.

In the meantime, it is the progressives who are working to make things better for you. If you want things to change, help us put progressives in positions of power.

Why not?  Let's see what happens.",15,2022-06-12 20:25:22
ic4ubxb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"She would make an excellent president, but even if she doesn't win, having progressive candidates in a primary centers the national debate on progressive issues, and real solutions to the problems our nation faces.  (Issues that centrist Democrats, left to their own devices, will never center, and solutions they would never propose without progressive pressure.)",15,2022-06-12 21:48:01
ic4n4lv,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Can't wait for all the misinformation that will be thrown around if she in fact does try to run in 2024.,15,2022-06-12 20:50:39
ic67kpz,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],15,2022-06-13 05:23:55
ic5as0t,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I am with AOC. To preserve a democratic majority we need to have **better democrats** for which to vote.,14,2022-06-13 00:06:39
ic5h50t,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"> I will vote dem down the line

Literally the reason they have no incentive to change. **Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying to not do that**, in fact yes I agree it is much better to blindly vote for any Democrat then to have any Republican in a seat of power, but this is why they continue to spit in our faces and say ""What you gonna do about it?""",14,2022-06-13 01:03:26
ic5e622,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,How is that a reason to *not* vote in the Presidential election?? Who do you think nominated those guys? Would you rather have the next seat filled by somebody like them or somebody like KBJ?,14,2022-06-13 00:36:47
ic5qaxz,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Don't ever say that even as a joke,14,2022-06-13 02:26:10
ic4wu4u,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"To me, it's not about age and experience.  (Almost no one alive has experience that is actually relevant to being President of the United States. And the few people who do have relevant experience would probably be terrible presidents). 

It's about having a policy platform that addresses the crises of the moment and the needs of the country. Which progressives do, and centrists don't.  Flatly.",14,2022-06-12 22:08:12
ic5lk83,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,That's going to be hard to do if they can't codify Roe with a majority in both houses of Congress currently (albeit a thin one in the Senate). People aren't going to give them more power (and rightly so) if they can't defend basic protections for women with the power they have.,13,2022-06-13 01:43:15
ic4tov0,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Too late, you live in a gerontocratic fascist country where the ones running the country are corporations and the wealthy.",13,2022-06-12 21:42:52
ic4l28o,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Fairly sure she's too young to run. In 2028 definitely should. I'm not a Democrat, but I'd vote for her like I would sanders.",13,2022-06-12 20:34:32
ic4zt7v,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I have a feeling that may be the plan but they wouldn’t tell us until the last moment so the Republicans would have to change their narrative fast. He can take one for the team until then and have them hate him all they want. 

That being said I don’t see any Republican candidates that would be more popular than Biden.",12,2022-06-12 22:32:30
ic57uas,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,It’s a pretty low bar considering Biden has an approval rating lower than what Trump had at this point in his presidency.,12,2022-06-12 23:40:26
ic77q54,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"AOC is never gonna back Biden.  She already been low key promoting  Bernie.  

Trump was afraid of Bernie in 2020 because he knew he had no chance against him.  The democrats fucked up and went with there wallets. We need more actual citizens in the government like AOC. Bernie actually cares about the American people and doesn't give a crap about the old money elite that are in charge now.  They know he'll clean house off as many of them as he can and he'll see to it that they all pay their fare share of taxes.  He wants to level the playing field for absolutley all Americans and those who are in control now are all scared of him doing just that.  Bernie isn't a democrat and damn sure isn't a republican. He's also not a socialist.  He's an equality and he's exactly what we need for this country. 

 He should be voted president for life.  Then we can go back to 4 year terms when he decides he's done. Lol",12,2022-06-13 13:13:13
ic589eg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">Now that Trump is gone

Are you sure about that? Excuse my ignorance, I haven’t been keeping up with the Jan. 6th hearings as much as I should. I’ve seen some videos about it and read some threads, but at no point did it seem clear that “Trump is gone.” Maybe I’m just cynical, but I would still believe that a large amount of people would still vote for Trump.",11,2022-06-12 23:44:06
ic4txr6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Spoiler: this will never happen because they don’t want it to happen. Sorry.,11,2022-06-12 21:44:51
ic4wrhq,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Well, considering boomers are basically geriatric, vote, and Social Security and Medicare are still floundering, should tell you everything about the necessity of elderly representation.",11,2022-06-12 22:07:35
ic582ky,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The problem isn’t voters - the problem is a two party system both funded by corporations that limit the populous ability to elect someone who is actually for the people.

Evil or Evil Lite - both sponsored by like 90% the same corporations. Either corporations win or they win big - in neither scenario do they suffer.",11,2022-06-12 23:42:27
ic4vywv,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,The problem with the democratic party is this exactly. The party itself is guided by corporate interests. People like Bernier and AOC in order to have a chance have to balance playing the game and actually trying to pass legislation that helps Americans and not corporations.,11,2022-06-12 22:01:10
ic4wyd9,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I love that she won and the corporate dem she beat lost,11,2022-06-12 22:09:10
ic5z60q,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,If people would just vote in the primaries the democrats couldn't stop a progressive. Unless you believe in some big time cheating (which I think is conspiracy theory-tier stuff to believe) Biden beat Bernie in the primaries by getting more votes. Either the US isn't progressive enough yet or progressives just aren't voting (imo a bit of both).,11,2022-06-13 03:50:23
ic4si4p,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The age minimum applies at inauguration, not election or anything else.",11,2022-06-12 21:33:21
ic4o5kn,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"What do you think ""woke"" means?

To me, it means recognizing that different people in our society have different advantages and disadvantages, based on the structures of power currently in place, and wanting to uplift those who face those disadvantages (like racism and prejudice).

It also means having empathy for everyone and recognizing the humanity we share with all people.

Is that not what it means to you?",11,2022-06-12 20:58:46
ic4x2pg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"After Trump, qualifications no longer matter. Literally the only requirement for taking the last election away from him was ""Have a pulse"".",11,2022-06-12 22:10:09
ic6qzzf,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"When people talk about SCOTUS discrediting themselves — welp, that ship has loooong sailed.",11,2022-06-13 10:08:07
ic71zg0,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Thats what happened twice now. If the DNC allowed it we could have utopia and no facism. Neolibs and the love of capital and tech are forcing facism on us all. 6-3 decision by the Supreme Court on Tuesday allows for no warranty search and seizure nation wide from points of entry for 100 miles. The media is not mention it at all and when they do they say boarder. Fun fact is all airports are ports of entry. 

How many of us live within 100mi? The future is gonna be lit either way.",10,2022-06-13 12:20:38
ic5v0wl,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"No. Cognitive decline is a real thing, which is why many jobs absolutely cut you off at a certain age.

So either subject yourself to real tests of your acuity with an automatic enforcement to remove you from power, or set an arbitrary age limit.",10,2022-06-13 03:09:53
ic5e1sy,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Nah, nobody's slinging Bernie out because he had too many birthdays.

>It is completely ridiculous that our nation's future is being constantly dictated by people who will no longer exist in that future.

A society grows great when old men plant trees under whose shade they know they’ll never sit.",10,2022-06-13 00:35:44
ic6x8m2,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I mean I’m not the smartest person but I would love to have it explained to me how the President is responsible. I assume it’s because “He’s in charge” or some crap. Meanwhile the GOP in Congress who can actually do something just sit on their hands.,10,2022-06-13 11:29:20
ic641z2,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Because of the democrat establishment. It needs to be abolished. I don’t care what Pat Lahey or Diane Feinstein or Jim Clyburn think. I’m 33, not 83 and these establishment democrat politicians don’t live the same reality that I do.",10,2022-06-13 04:42:44
ic4sh01,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I dislike that line of thinking. I don’t care if they’re 100 and dying, just put someone with an actual moral compass in there. 

Have a young Vice President.",9,2022-06-12 21:33:06
ic613s0,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,8x their efforts. As you can see here the repubs have been going strong on disinfo and of course their attempt to just violently overthrow our government,9,2022-06-13 04:10:39
ic6198b,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,lmao “leftist” biden is literally blue trump,9,2022-06-13 04:12:17
ic4o9u5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I always thought it was weird to see the coverage surrounding Ted Cruz running despite being born in Canada. Obviously he was qualified, but people consistently misunderstand what ""natural born citizen"" means. As long as you've been a citizen since birth, it doesn't matter where you were born.",9,2022-06-12 20:59:42
ic5zs4e,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"shit would at the very least feel less impending. one less major (and most important) issue to deal with in the present. possibly no pandemic. less unrest. cheaper food prices and on and on. 

what a butterfly effect that could have been.",9,2022-06-13 03:56:43
ic55gtb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I'll vote AOC right God damn now, make it happen",8,2022-06-12 23:19:48
ic5x6pt,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,That's the only thing the Warren campaign did well,8,2022-06-13 03:30:39
ic5plky,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,We don't need someone making decisions that they won't live to see the outcome of.,8,2022-06-13 02:19:55
ic5xtv1,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Lesser of evils compared to a fascist child rapist who tear gassed a church for a photo op,8,2022-06-13 03:36:56
ic5uog5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],8,2022-06-13 03:06:38
ic5vppl,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,That's a terrible definition. You should get a refund on whatever crappy dictionary you're using.,8,2022-06-13 03:16:26
ic5d341,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],7,2022-06-13 00:27:10
ic62k3k,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Yep, kind of super misleading with that headline.",7,2022-06-13 04:26:07
ic5blpc,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Im ready to be torn into,7,2022-06-13 00:13:58
ic7lbr7,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Well ok. I voted for Biden because I feel I had no choice. He promised us a lot and delivered on none of it. I fully understand the president has limits to his ability but he really isn’t using a fraction of his theoretical power. I agree with you I don’t think he wins in 2024. AOC is being reasonable and not blindly pledging allegiance to any democrat and focusing on issues at hand. Falling in line automatically, that’s a Republican thing.

I’d also bring up, a lot of people are disgruntled at that fact that every other week we see headlines outlining the obscene financial packages going to Ukraine. But the average American isn’t seeing any tangible support beyond what’s already in place. And before anyone jumps on me about Ukraine, I understand that this is a necessary cost because it’s now critical to suppress Russian aggression or things get worse for all. It just sucks, you know? It feels like our tax dollars go to international military operations and none of it gets poured back into our home.",7,2022-06-13 15:00:34
ic5vsxm,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I see you underestimate the power of her tweets, you fool!",7,2022-06-13 03:17:17
ic7dxr8,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Almost spit out my breakfast reading that; it's perfect.,7,2022-06-13 14:04:54
ic5civ4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"If all of the viable alternatives are straight up evil, yeah",7,2022-06-13 00:22:10
ic4uuhq,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Why do you think voting R will help with any of that when both parties hold the same neoliberal values when it comes to money in politics and serving only their wealthy donors? This is like saying I don't like pancreatic cancer and so will vote for lung cancer instead. Weird.,7,2022-06-12 21:52:08
ic4snmt,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"In all honesty, I’m what way is Biden at fault for the current economic situation? I think whoever was in office at this point would be facing a similar situation. This situation was caused primarily by rates being held artificially low for far too long, COVID messing up supply/demand, world governments injecting tons of money into their economies to prop them up during the pandemic, and the war in Ukraine.",7,2022-06-12 21:34:34
ic7d77b,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"To be completely fair, this has always been the case throughout modern history.  Whoever the sitting President is tends to get credit when prices are low and the economy is good, and all the blame when things go south.   99% of the time, the sitting President has little to nothing to do with current prices in either direction and has simply inherited the economy from their predecessor.    Doesn't matter.  Whoever is sitting in that chair is going to get full credit or blame, even if they had nothing to do with it and have no ability to do anything about it. 

Trump got lucky (because of course he did) that he simply inherited an economy that was on the upswing from Obama, so there wasn't really a time when he had to worry about that.  Biden, on the other hand, not only inherited a post-COVID economy in shambles, he's handling a post-COVID economy in shambles that was led by Trump, and now has to deal with the fallout from our attempts to prop up the economy when we went into full (by US standards) lockdown.  

The next President (sadly, it will likely be GOP, if not Trump himself) will likely inherit a recovering economy propped up with whatever policies Biden is able to cobble together in the next 2 years or so, which means once again we're likely going to be in a situation where a GOP president inherits an economy on the upswing from their Democratic predecessor, gets all the credit for the economy being so good, then uses it to show how Democrats can't get the job done and passes a bunch of new tax cuts that take a giant shit all over everything.  Then he'll be able to hand his shitty economy off to the next President, and we'll get to repeat this cycle all over again.

I've been here too many times in my life.  I know the cycle by now.",7,2022-06-13 13:59:03
ic6chsy,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Except until you remember that one teensy thing that this sub loves to forget: primaries are not a legal democratic concept. It’s a private organization (parties are not in any of our founding documents, as such their processes cannot exist in any document either) that reserves the right to determine it’s own processes at any time whatsoever.

Even IF someone got 100% of the primary votes the DNC orgs leadership team can just say “nope, it’s this other guy” and bee 100% in the right because they cannot interfere with how it chooses its leaders without one of the incredibly well defined reasons to do so; of which “we decided to change our leadership  process” is not one",7,2022-06-13 06:32:47
ic53dh6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I think she just has to hit 35 by inauguration day.,7,2022-06-12 23:02:12
ic7bd3i,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,No offense but it sounds like it would be a quick clean up,7,2022-06-13 13:44:02
ic6vw1e,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,they continue to stonewall him,7,2022-06-13 11:13:13
ic5a2qq,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,AOC/Bernie all day,6,2022-06-13 00:00:20
ic59ix6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,If she runs I’m voting for her.,6,2022-06-12 23:55:22
ic7gaqg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">	He might beat Trump

At this point I don’t think he would. The right has been steadily amping up their followers with weekly *“here’s what the dangerous liberals are doing now!”* propaganda while Biden doesn’t have any big splashes to promote. 

US politics is like a slot machine - you have to have some big, positive distraction to keep everyone on board. 

He hasn’t accomplished anything on student loans, marijuana, or any other big-ticket item.  Maybe he’s saving something for closer to the election, but who knows. 

Everybody knew Biden was as interesting as a bucket of sand, but he just can’t seem to get any traction. 

On a side note, I’d like to see some candidates under 50.",6,2022-06-13 14:23:12
ic79w4k,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],6,2022-06-13 13:31:38
ic6aln4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"If they want people to vote blue, they need to ditch Biden in 2024...",6,2022-06-13 06:04:34
ic5k98m,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Marjorie Taylor Greene!! /s,6,2022-06-13 01:31:33
ic5y8jd,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"> The Democrats would rather lose than have anybody progressive as the nominee

Would rather lose, you say?

Fine, I’ll oblige them.",6,2022-06-13 03:41:01
ic5bdha,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"If only clean energy and water were special interests. 

Sometimes I wonder if events like the pandemic, supply train disruption etc., are proof of concept for things to come.  If the boogie man in the closet is ""you ain't seen nothing yet,"" elected officials, part of their job is to keep people from getting \*\*too\*\* crazy or disheartened.",6,2022-06-13 00:11:57
ic530rj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">it wouldn't be shocking for a 34 year old representative woman of color to lose the primary.

Especially considering 34 isn't old enough to qualify to be elected president. 

Of course, if I'm mathing right, I think she would just squeak over the minimum age  by the time the election came around and thus also hit 35 by the inauguration the following year.",6,2022-06-12 22:59:15
ic541x5,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"She would be 34 during the primary.

God, it gets tiring to post with exacting, careful accuracy, and STILL have people react with maximum pedantry.

Here's something I posted two hours ago, about an hour before the post you're replying to.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/vatcop/aoc_refuses_to_endorse_biden_for_2024_as/ic4lnn6/

I know how old she is.  Cool?",6,2022-06-12 23:07:47
ic5d7dg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Adam Schiff? In what world is he a leftist? He’s not even a progressive, he’s not even a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. What he is is a pretty typical liberal and a member of the New Democratic Coalition with an outsized national profile because his pal Pelosi makes sure he gets high profile committee assignments. Absolutely no to backing Schiff in a Presidential run.",6,2022-06-13 00:28:14
ic5j5qx,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Absolutely false.  Obama ran as a leftist and won in a landslide.

He wasn't one, but he ran as one.

Bernie came close to snatching it two times.

A majority of Americans broadly support the progressive policy agenda. Democratic voters are largely progressive.

People can be reached. But not if we give up and say ""we can't win.""  So, what, let's not try? 

No, keep fighting. And go forward.",6,2022-06-13 01:21:36
ic4z12m,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"This is why bernie is perfect. Im wondering if folks have little understanding of the REAL geopolitical state of this world and how people operate psychologically and socially
  Having relations and being trusted by world leaders, having a record& popularity/likability. His Jewish ethnicity gives him a position to be able to oppose Israel without being accused of being anti semitic",6,2022-06-12 22:26:06
ic4s0om,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I think there is a small amount of toxic discourse about privilege, etc, on the left, that it is understandable to be annoyed by.

But by and large I think the vast majority of ""woke"" discourse is about wanting to make sure black people are safe in their communities from police violence. Gay people can exist as equal participants in our society (preserving gay marriage). Trans people should be comfortable even just being in public, without being intentionally misgendered, without being belligerently confronted by bigots, etc.

There's a disconnection between academic language and colloquial language. 

Sometimes we hear something that makes sense in academic terms, that doesn't make a lot of sense on the ground, like, ""it's impossible to be racist against white people.""

And what academics are talking about is whiteness as an institution of power, racism as an expression of prejudice being enacted against a person by an institution.

But colloquially, what seems to be being communicated is ""white people aren't worthy of respect"" or ""it doesn't matter if you are prejudiced against white people.""

But of course anyone can be prejudiced against anyone -- anyone can experience bigotry. And identitarian factors are not the only possible points of disadvantage in this life.

Economic disadvantage is real, regardless of race, and creates trauma at the cellular level.

All of these things are true.

But if you have allowed yourself to become targeted against the tiny, minute, fractional, negligible portion of wokeness that is toxic and misdirected, I think you've made a mistake.

Because that does not reflect the reality of what 99.99% of what ""woke"" people (people engaged in the social justice fight) are interested in, or what they're saying, or how they're spending their time.

Most of us just ignore that misguided discourse and move forward.",6,2022-06-12 21:29:28
ic4igby,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Biden is awful. I really don't understand why progressives continue to circle the wagons for him. I'm not a progressive but I could get on board with some of the policy ideas you guys have. A lot of independent voters would like access to a or several group health insurance plans like corporate employees get. The uninsured public is just the group. Government run stuff scares us because they suck at everything they try to do. Every Government program turns into an under performing bureaucracy and bloated waste of money.  

 Biden though, is there any chance he might accidentally do something to help us in between now and 2024?",5,2022-06-12 20:14:18
ic5ey18,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I’m a fan of how Biden is handling the Ukraine/Russia conflict.,5,2022-06-13 00:43:48
ic4txkb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"You're referring to basic human rights for everyone as a ""trap""?",5,2022-06-12 21:44:49
ic5rr3d,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,She left the door open. This is 2 years from now. Pretty early to commit.,5,2022-06-13 02:39:23
ic5towr,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">Spoiler: there will be a Trump analog or worse,

Trump is running. In his eyes it makes him immune to the inevitable indictment from Garland",5,2022-06-13 02:57:21
ic581q6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"That's gonna be a 30 year wait, fam. Ain't nobody got time to wait that long for change.",5,2022-06-12 23:42:15
ic62oq4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The fact that you thought it was just ""mean tweets"" and not the appalling policies and dismantling of democracy that got him fired is pretty indicative of how little you were paying attention.",5,2022-06-13 04:27:30
ic5re5i,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Yeah, ranked choice gave NYC Eric Adams somehow, it's not a panacea.",5,2022-06-13 02:36:04
ic50bs3,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Right? Trying to counter potential but utterly stupid arguments beforehand is like trying to convince a stupid person that dog shit doesn't taste great.,5,2022-06-12 22:36:42
ic4stws,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,This comment is a laundry list of Republican talking points.,5,2022-06-12 21:35:57
ic7fexz,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],5,2022-06-13 14:16:29
ic67s7d,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Even when you adjust for different time periods Biden has slightly more deaths. Considering he ran as the candidate who would ""do what was necessary"" to stop the pandemic, the fact that he didn't do anything is very apparent.",5,2022-06-13 05:26:24
ic6nhpf,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"This is a simple solution that would solve an amazing number of problems. Considering most media and TV are kept in the black by political money, the 4th state would very much be against this.",5,2022-06-13 09:15:40
ic5yt42,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"How do you imagine he’s going to “make that up” if the best case midterms scenario is the Dems maintaining a razor thin majority that can’t get much of anything done? Honestly, the best chance for Biden to win re-election is if Trump really does run again. It’s the only thing that will motivate enough people to pinch their noses again, and there’s a strong argument to be made that that wasn’t enough for him to win in 2020 and that Trump telling people not to trust mail in ballots is what actually won Biden the election.",5,2022-06-13 03:46:46
ic5jfb2,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of aoc, many that we probably agree on, but to say that it's not materially different having her there instead of joe crowley is just not true. Instead of a powerful right wing corporate dem supporting right wing bullshit using money from corporations, we have someone supporting left primary challengers using money not from corporations. That's a different thing and it's good. 

You can be mad at the cringe dress (don't care) or bad votes (yeah) or disagree on strategy (I have) or whatever but saying it's not materially different and her very real win over crowley was symbolic, I think that's not correct.",5,2022-06-13 01:24:02
ic7q2k6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I have to be a registered Democrat to vote in the Democratic primaries, otherwise I'd be an Independent.",5,2022-06-13 15:35:14
ic59ynx,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Oops, missed this the first time around but, uh, did you not think for a second what this sounds like?:

>When I was growing up Democrats fought for the working class. Now they're race obsessed. The only rumblings I can even take serious about the working class comes from the Republicans.

Because that makes it sound like you think Republicans being mad about non-white people existing is somehow what you mean by ""being pro-working class"".

Especially if one looks at any metric about republican states and how the working class is doing in those states.",5,2022-06-12 23:59:20
ic78e8p,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Cults have been tearing families apart for all of history. These new Internet cults of personality have yet to be reckoned with by society.,5,2022-06-13 13:18:57
ic69mrq,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Al gore is rich but he is not even close to being a billionaire. You've overdosed on propaganda.,5,2022-06-13 05:49:00
ic5jx73,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The campaign between Obama and Hillary was quite similar to the campaign between Bernie and Hillary, with Obama positioned to Hillary's left on every issue.

His campaign was the left-most major political campaign we had seen in American politics in 40+ years.

If you don't remember it that way, I'm sorry, but you remember it incorrectly.

Perhaps you're comparing Obama's campaign to Bernie's in deciding what a leftist campaign looks like. But remember: Bernie came after Obama. Bernie came in the wake of Obama's failed centrist Presidency, in which he accomplished virtually none of the things he promised, in a declining America.",5,2022-06-13 01:28:29
ic516fh,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I voted for Biden (without a shred if enthusiasm). I literally know zero people who are fans of his. Why on earth would they run him? Also, he’s old af. I wish Bernie was younger.",4,2022-06-12 22:43:44
ic55q5e,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Biden was never a good option. He was a necessary sacrifice to get rid of Trump. He’s the status quo. The sane useless Washington puppets we’ve had for 50 years. Weed is a gateway drug because big pharma donated millions and told him that. He’s bought and paid for like all the career Washington politicians. No way in hell Biden gets the nomination next time.,4,2022-06-12 23:21:58
ic4x96c,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I give Biden 5 more years on earth maximum. No way he gets another term.,4,2022-06-12 22:11:36
ic5avju,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I don’t think Joe Biden can beat Desantis in 2024.
Likewise I don’t believe Kamala Harris can do it either.",4,2022-06-13 00:07:31
ic57v1q,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,">We don’t need someone in their 80s running the country, from either party

Which is why they'll run Harris and Butigieg as the President/VP ticket.

Everyone's been saying they're tired of old men, so Dems will do the Monkeys Paw curl move.",4,2022-06-12 23:40:36
ic5aerg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,She'll just be old enough by her birthday 2024.,4,2022-06-13 00:03:21
ic5ffye,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,she should! i just looked it up and she'll be turning 35 in October 2024,4,2022-06-13 00:48:18
ic4sgc2,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"GTFO with that ""government sucks"" bullshit. That's nothing but decades of Republican propaganda.",4,2022-06-12 21:32:57
ic663e6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I'm not compromising on my beliefs again so some codger can do nothing for 8 years.,4,2022-06-13 05:06:16
ic55pt2,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I am from Australia, and I was enthralled when ~~Bernie~~ Biden and Sanders were debating. I wish with my entire being that Sanders would become your president in 2024. I want to live in THAT world.

Edit to fix name to avoid confusion. But also to add; Just because I don't live in the US, doesn't mean I don't want the best for it's people. And I wish we had a Bernie Sanders over here.",4,2022-06-12 23:21:53
ic77i3x,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],4,2022-06-13 13:11:21
ic4y8jc,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,We are in a weird time. I'm politically homeless in a time that you must be in a tribe. I'm not doing it.,4,2022-06-12 22:19:38
ic5m9hp,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],4,2022-06-13 01:49:33
ic52a7d,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"What is this, ""we.""",4,2022-06-12 22:52:58
ic7bo33,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Sneks in da grass,4,2022-06-13 13:46:32
ic7ary6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"People blame his policies, such as shutting down a pipeline. But conveniently ignore record-breaking profits oil companies are making and a literal war.",4,2022-06-13 13:39:13
ic7d3aa,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"He's the reason I can't bring myself to agree with max-age limits on candidates! His mind is still sharp, and even if he's not physically energetic as he would be at a younger age, it doesn't matter. As long as he can delegate, make decisions and take good advice from the experts around him, that's the important thing.

AOC could be his VP and be the new candidate after his term. I'm so done with democrats, re-registered as ""no party."" If this is truly a democracy, let her run on a green/progressive ticket.",4,2022-06-13 13:58:11
ic69p3b,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,It’s because trump saw the beginning of the pandemic. Apr 2020 it was really ramping up and Trump was out in 9 months or so. Biden has had like 2x more time to  see more people die. When trump left office the vaccine wasn’t really rolled out yet and then Delta also hit hard later.,4,2022-06-13 05:49:47
ic6d63c,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,You need to be 35 when assuming the office. Not 35 when running for it,4,2022-06-13 06:42:01
ic8dotb,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Alcohol was also responsible for a large number of births.  I don’t want to know how many births guns were responsible for.,4,2022-06-13 18:24:49
ic66haj,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Where are you getting your information? 

Because Trump's policies had multiple objectively negative direct effects on average US citizens.

https://www.epi.org/publication/50-reasons/",4,2022-06-13 05:10:48
ic6dfz8,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"> Even IF someone got 100% of the primary votes the DNC orgs leadership team can just say “nope, it’s this other guy” and bee 100% in the right because they cannot interfere with how it chooses its leaders without one of the incredibly well defined reasons to do so; of which “we decided to change our leadership process” is not one

Have they ever done that before?",4,2022-06-13 06:45:50
ic5j8un,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Obama did not campaign as a leftist. Saying you want universal healthcare doesn't make you a leftist.,4,2022-06-13 01:22:24
ic7i778,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,I think it would be more accurate to say that I view D & R as *one team* and refuse to play this game any longer. I would invite you to imagine a future beyond republicans and democrats. I want an entirely new system.,4,2022-06-13 14:37:36
ic6mqe4,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"We will just have to agree to disagree on the terminology. 

I believe indulging in unchecked self-interest is functionally synonymous with greed. I also believe it's possible to hold more than one party accountable at a time for their roles in societal issues.",4,2022-06-13 09:04:04
ic5doi1,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"They have it all wrong when they label, Bernie and AOC, are the Democratic Party, I have followed Bernie and voted for him in the last two elections there is no off the wall beliefs it plain common sense to me, we are not the progressive democrats..we are just plain Democrats, it’s always a Republican thinking on how can we split the democrats up and have them argue, well we won’t follow that, we have to stand together, and Joe you better start standing up for us all or go home",3,2022-06-13 00:32:26
ic5lemo,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"The DNC will ram him through like they rammed him through in 2020. The party failed to coalesce onto a non-Bernie candidate via ""the will of the people"" so they substituted their own will instead. There's no taking that back. I really wish and hope Bernie will rally another run outside the Democratic party. It needs to go away, permanently.",3,2022-06-13 01:41:52
ic4s9ce,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I think she's slipped a bit into the system but I feel like that's more the systems fault than hers. She's still gotta survive the bullshit, but I'd like to see her show up for progressive causes like the union's voting. Maybe she has recently but I know she bailed on the Amazon vote a month or so ago. She's gotta get out there for these things. I'd like to see her run if nothing more than to get her out there and see what she has to say. Though she needs to avoid the social justice trap and stick to the major issues that matter right now.",3,2022-06-12 21:31:24
ic7t7in,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],3,2022-06-13 15:57:41
ic5xbak,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Clickbait and ""new contributer"" bad faith trolls",3,2022-06-13 03:31:53
ic5bfyw,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"Who can Dems throw out there? I don't think AOC is ready, but I know no rising star that can convince people to come out and vote",3,2022-06-13 00:12:33
ic57ntn,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"anti-electoralism is being pushed hard by the right. why do you think they're constantly gerrymandering and suppressing votes in democratic areas? because voting is worthless?  

refusing to vote is literally just saying ""I'll trust everyone else to make the right choice"" when clearly they are incapable of doing so with how many votes trump got. 

progressive voters in particular who ""protest vote"" or abstain are just proving the centrist/center-right wing of the democratic party correct when they discount our desires or concerns because ""they don't vote anyway"" 

imagine if young progressives instead of old centrists were the most stable and active voting block. that is what you're actively fighting against. and because it's a two party system, a vote withheld from the democrats is as good as a vote for the republicans. 

vote with your heart in the primaries, but vote strategically in the general. 

with the 1/6 hearings you'd think people would realize how dangerous it is to have republicans in office, but here we are still pretending we can afford to protest vote.",3,2022-06-12 23:38:51
ic5bv0b,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"I don't think any Dem can unless they get their ass in gear. Only thing I can see helping Dems is Trump doesn't get nomination, runs as independent and splits the votes",3,2022-06-13 00:16:16
ic4tul6,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Progressive is a meaningless term. The “progressives” all voted for vast military spending and in support of war. There are no progressives in the meaningful sense of that word in positions of power. What you have is a host of differently flavored empire managers. That’s it.,3,2022-06-12 21:44:10
ic5zidi,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,*Playoffs?!*,3,2022-06-13 03:53:53
ic65nwu,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,[deleted],3,2022-06-13 05:01:16
ic76e5b,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,No need to offend sea cucumbers like that,3,2022-06-13 13:02:09
ic7tn00,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,No one wanted Biden. We wanted Bernie but the business owned part of the Democratic Party won’t allow human beings to have higher quality of life cause that’ll increase wages.,3,2022-06-13 16:00:42
ic6f3gg,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,Put some candidates worth for if you want votes.,3,2022-06-13 07:09:12
ic63t7m,vatcop,AOC refuses to endorse Biden for 2024 as Democrats doubt his ability to win | US elections 2024,"They did that, and the nomination went to the old career politician.",3,2022-06-13 04:40:00