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hx2peky,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],1959,2022-02-15 19:37:25
hx3s05j,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],1055,2022-02-15 23:47:04
hx2i8y9,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],763,2022-02-15 18:51:56
hx2jp00,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",If you believe elections were stolen why would you bother running?,695,2022-02-15 19:01:04
hx3snsg,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Actually they’re never embarrassed about anything, ever. Shamelessness is their superpower.",404,2022-02-15 23:51:45
hx2ly9k,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Because they don't believe that at all, they're all liars, they just don't want anyone else to ever be in charge of anything",389,2022-02-15 19:15:22
hx2i6uq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","> The multi-state effort is part of a campaign by the Bernie Sanders-aligned Our Revolution to put political pressure on supporters of former President Donald Trump who shared his false assertions about the 20202 election, and could result in a massive legal battle should election officials in any state attempt to bar one of Mr Trump’s supporters from the ballot.
> On Tuesday, protesters were in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio; among the targets of the actions were two pro-Trump congressman, Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz, who are among those the group says should be barred from office under a section of the 14th Amendment. Section three of the amendment states that a person is barred from any state, federal or judicial office after having “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”.
> That standard was put in place shortly after the Civil War, and barred many former Confederates from running for office. It would be a much harder legal argument to make in modern times, as none who have been targeted by the effort so far have been formally accused of any criminal wrongdoing.
> In the weeks ahead, a person familiar with the campaign told The Independent that Our Revolution plans to expand the effort to Colorado, Arizona, Georgia and Texas. The effort is likely also to include an eventual push to prevent Mr Trump himself from running for the White House in 2024 if, as expected by many, he enters the race shortly following the midterms.",359,2022-02-15 18:51:34
hx2ztah,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz, who are among those the group says should be barred from office
Gym and Gaetz should be barred from office because of the crimes they committed in relation to Jan 6, the prostitution ring, Gyms cover-up at OSU, etc. But not simply because they aligned themselves with Trumps rhetoric.",254,2022-02-15 20:44:06
hx2jcjd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",So absofuckinglootly no republicans voting? Go on!,225,2022-02-15 18:58:53
hx3m9mu,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Republicans are like ""we made ourselves out to be criminals by doing criminal things and now the radical commie left wants us held accountable!""",189,2022-02-15 23:06:24
hx3ieh2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Why is Putin claiming there’s a genocide going on in Ukraine?
Because they need a public excuse to take over.",170,2022-02-15 22:40:21
hx2j971,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],158,2022-02-15 18:58:19
hx3m2xl,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","""A full year after i robbed that bank, police remain focused on it! To embarrass me!""",147,2022-02-15 23:05:06
hx3uw54,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You can't be ashamed without thinking you've done something wrong. If you think you're position is the right one, why would you be ashamed by it?",123,2022-02-16 00:07:47
hx3xqcd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","He was a patriot engaging in political discourse, but he was also FBI, BLM, and ANTIFA all at the same time. He deserves a pardon, but it's a crisis actor too.",118,2022-02-16 00:28:51
hx2jvh6,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",If that's what it takes yes. Either come back to the real world or lose your say in things. I have disdain for people who ignore professionals for posturing.,114,2022-02-15 19:02:11
hx3sgtn,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This, it’s an excuse for them to tarnish the legitimacy of outcomes they don’t like and embrace violence",109,2022-02-15 23:50:24
hx2mw36,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","It is so fucking tricky to make something like this work.
""They have to tell the truth and not buy into conspiracies"" - The party in power defines the truth and conspiracies from a legal perspective
""They have to have a certain level of civic knowledge"" - That's a Ballot test. They banned those because they were being used to disenfranchise minorities.",99,2022-02-15 19:21:24
hx3n54b,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I hear the Reichstag is on fire!
Also that the Poles attacked first!",85,2022-02-15 23:12:21
hx3wryz,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Someone who merely *thinks* they're right but has humility might allow for the possibility that they're wrong, and thus listen more carefully to the nuance of an opponent's position, take measured responses, and generally not be filled with the type of hubris and overconfidence which leads to smearing shit on their capitol building. To do that, you have to be blindly fanatical and beyond reason.
It's not that they think they're right exactly, it's a driving faith tied to their core identity which cannot be challenged or questioned without extreme backlash.",85,2022-02-16 00:21:46
hx31zqg,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">It would be a much harder legal argument to make in modern times, as none who have been targeted by the effort so far have been formally accused of any criminal wrongdoing.
That's half the point of this exercise. Get into a court and subpoena/depose the shit out of them.",76,2022-02-15 20:57:24
hx2oi3w,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],76,2022-02-15 19:31:39
hx2xckm,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Anyone who actually participated in the insurrection attempt or its organization can already be kept off the ballet - see the fairly realistic challenge to Madison Cawthorne's next run. His lawyers response was ""but they carved out an exception in 1877 for confederate traitors"", which ignores that this act was used in the 1900s to expel a socialist from congress.
Not sure how many other candidates this applies to, but I'm sure it's more than a couple. (There's an insurrection act specifically to prevent them from being eligible to run - I think it's federal only but there's probably some similar state and local statutes).",71,2022-02-15 20:28:40
hx3t4je,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],64,2022-02-15 23:55:03
hx2kx77,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Thank you Bernie for organizing a thoughtful and useful protest.,59,2022-02-15 19:08:48
hx43mo8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","See, i think it seems to them like we're trying to embarrass them, because they are repressing embarrassment, which leads them to project it on others. ""I don't feel embarrassed--*they* are *trying* to embarrass me, though.""",54,2022-02-16 01:13:01
hx3srsb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",The Beer Hall Putsch was totally overblown. No one should harbor any suspicions about the people who planned it and were involved. It was totally legitimate political discourse.,47,2022-02-15 23:52:33
hx3lclf,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",We can't go back to political literacy testing. It just prevents minorities from voting. We already tried that. Everyone having an equal say is better.,46,2022-02-15 23:00:06
hx3oqht,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",It’s unnecessary to focus on embarrassing Republicans. No one does a better job of that than they do.,41,2022-02-15 23:23:31
hx3x8lo,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",They are a shit smear on the walls of civilization.,37,2022-02-16 00:25:10
hx3uu85,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Felons should have the right to vote. Instead of restricting voting rights we should be opening them up. Felones get the right to vote, make sure minorities and poor people have easy voting access.
Why the fuck people think restricting voter rights is a good thing is beyond me.",37,2022-02-16 00:07:23
hx3hzdb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I am kinda fine with conspiracists running for office. I think of all the other wack-job beliefs people have, from zombie-messiahs to alien ancestors, and i'm not surprised a few idiots think a criminal gameshow host won the election despite all evidence. The problem isn't that they are running for office, it is that they are taken seriously, and that is our fault as a society.",35,2022-02-15 22:37:33
hx3w00v,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This just in: people who are stupid, do not want to be reminded why they are stupid.",35,2022-02-16 00:15:59
hx41uyq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Frankly people should be embarrassed calling themselves Republican. I mean at this point it means you're an un-American, traitorous, fascist who enjoys the company of bigoted trash. If Nazi wasn't the shorter word I would say that calling someone Republican would become the new Godwin's Law.
In other words, if someone calls themselves a Republican take that as a cue that they are very likely a garbage person.",35,2022-02-16 00:59:42
hx2pav2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">See here's the thing. We already have laws. What we don't have is Democrats enforcing those laws.
There you go",35,2022-02-15 19:36:44
hx4jqpq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You would think those actions would make them unelectable, and yet here we are.",34,2022-02-16 03:14:00
hx3zflq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You're right, but there's a difference between thinking you're right and refusing to consider you might be wrong (which is what you're getting at and my original intention, even if it maybe didn't come across that way).",34,2022-02-16 00:41:31
hx2k20y,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Because they think institution of mechanics that lead to a fascist regime is good actually.,33,2022-02-15 19:03:21
hx32uvb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Because they want Redneck Gilead,31,2022-02-15 21:02:44
hx38du8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",No one with an imaginary friend inflicting their silly beliefs on the lives of others. Okay!,26,2022-02-15 21:36:43
hx3eo71,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Who decides if someone is out of touch with reality? What criteria do they use? How do you stop that agency (or whatever) from becoming politicized and used to maintain control by one party?,25,2022-02-15 22:15:50
hx2w8sy,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],25,2022-02-15 20:21:31
hx32k2n,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Cant spell Gazpacho without the GOP!,25,2022-02-15 21:00:53
hx3p25t,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",We already have a way to do this. It's by charging them with felonies.,25,2022-02-15 23:25:49
hx47umv,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Admitting your client should only be allowed to run based on the ""exception for confederate traitors"" is pretty on-point.",24,2022-02-16 01:44:46
hx3tzi7,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","“People who ask questions” is a really funny way of saying, “morons who believe an election was stolen even after over 50 lawsuits saw no evidence of any election interference”",24,2022-02-16 00:01:14
hx4tiqc,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Schrödingers terrorist,24,2022-02-16 04:33:49
hx3b2e4,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",This is fantastic. Until now it’s been easy to ride the fence and give Trump a pass. Time to give establishment Republicans a hard choice.,23,2022-02-15 21:53:21
hx4610s,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],23,2022-02-16 01:31:06
hx3jyq9,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Nice research!
""No one can be a Senator, Representative, Elector or officer of the United States — or United States military officer, or member of a State Legislature, or a Governor, or a judge of any State — if they took an oath to support the Constitution and then took part in a rebellion against the United States, or gave aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. But Congress can change this with a two ­thirds vote.""
​
https://constitutionallawreporter.com/amendment-14-03/
I wonder if our representatives know that, and are doing this to gain social media points?",23,2022-02-15 22:50:42
hx2p86n,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The problem with this idea is that it would give power to the government to ban people from running for office based on vague reasons. Is anyone who says our electoral system is unfair a conspiracist? What about anyone who thinks that election rigging occurred in any instance? What about people who think there's Russian interference in elections? Even claims with evidence behind them could still be framed as conspiracies by political opponents.
If anything, this would actually strengthen authoritarians like Trump because it would give their cronies an excuse to remove opposition from the ballot and conveniently ignore their own conspiracist views (""Saying that Biden cheated in 2020 isn't a conspiracy because it's true!!""). Most States are run by republicans so it's not like they'd enforce this rule against themselves, and blue states probably wont be voting for Trump anyway. Trying to beat Republicans on a technicality is a losing strategy.",22,2022-02-15 19:36:15
hx30qnw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Also, anyone else with an IQ could pull it off, fortunately we had an orange buffoon with a clown show trying to do the actual steal. The weakness within our democracy has been exposed and unless legislators do something about this 1/6 attack, we may not be the United States fifty years from now. This isn’t about sides, it’s about our way of life.",22,2022-02-15 20:49:47
hx45jxh,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Republicans are spread out and for some reason our system gives more value to those near less people so good luck. I will continue to vote local, but my area will go straight Dem either way.",21,2022-02-16 01:27:29
hx48efd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The funniest thing to me about that is the fact that after the political nut jobs screamed and cried about those not being *True*^tm T**** supporters, and that those were Democrat/**FBI**/BLM/Antifa plants, the rioters came out and said that they WERE T**** supporters, and that it WAS them who trashed the Capitol.
Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot.
Edit: whoops, missed one",21,2022-02-16 01:48:53
hx2otaj,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Banning people from holding public office for something less than an actual crime is a bad precedent. It will be your guy getting banned next and then it is a short trip to civil unrest.
A functioning democracy can't blanket disenfranchise an entire subset of people without consequences.",21,2022-02-15 19:33:37
hx312ep,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Watch the GOP redefine 'force' as 'publicly criticising the GOP',21,2022-02-15 20:51:46
hx3mqso,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Let’s start by banning the insurrectionists first. Then we can figure out a way to ban the rest of them.,21,2022-02-15 23:09:41
hx3igxa,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This sub must just be bots talking to each other. No actual human Americans would entertain such a ludicrously authoritarian idea, right?",20,2022-02-15 22:40:48
hx2qsq3,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No, how we ban people from office in this country is we vote for the fucking other guy. We're not going to come up with arbitrary reasons for people to not even be allowed to be voted for that is controlled by whoever is in power at that exact moment. So many countries have had their countries democracies fall apart by this one step, the people in power banning the people out of power from the ballot.",20,2022-02-15 19:46:23
hx44rw1,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The best way to embarrass a Republican is to just let them keep talking. Or, I should say, it’s the best way to make others embarrassed on their behalf. Republicans themselves cannot be embarrassed directly.",20,2022-02-16 01:21:38
hx4bas8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",*pictures the lady with the fupa wearing the “trump can grab my pussy ⬇️” t-shirt*,20,2022-02-16 02:10:41
hx3lzwh,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],20,2022-02-15 23:04:31
hx3nv6k,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Honestly, I think we should have some agency focused on finding out who is truly behind all the Qanon shit. Not just the guy or guys posting the stuff, but who, if anyone, was funding them. It may be too much to hope that once the perpetrators of the ridiculous bs that ""Q"" was disseminating are exposed the followers would lose interest and go back to ""normal"", but it is a decent hope.",20,2022-02-15 23:17:27
hx4019j,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",You mean he expressed his digested lunch in a manner of legitimate political discourse? Did he eat a large order of McDonalds Freedom Fries?,19,2022-02-16 00:46:02
hx3lr0j,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I mean, others that were subpoenaed/deposed just decided not to cooperate and got away with it. Why wouldn't they do the same? Just stringing it out, hoping people forget.",19,2022-02-15 23:02:50
hx406iw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","O sweet heart, we aren't trying to embarrass you. We are trying to IMPRISON you for the CRIMES against democracy. Being barred from running is the compromise.",18,2022-02-16 00:47:09
hx2qz9b,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","> The party in power defines the truth and conspiracies from a legal perspective
Exactly this, there are countries where there are a variety of ways you can be disqualified from running, and the party in power uses corrupt judiciary to apply those ways to their opponents effectively seizing power.",18,2022-02-15 19:47:30
hx3tmc0,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","If you take away their ability to participate in the political process the only option you leave them with is violence. And you actually encourage them to use it because by removing their rights you only enhance their view of the Left as a bunch of power-hungry authoritarians.
Your idea here is shortsighted, immoral, and would be completely counterproductive.",18,2022-02-15 23:58:35
hx3yned,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Actual hot take on this sub:
Prohibiting *anyone* from running for office because of political beliefs, whatever those beliefs might be, undermines democracy and is an incredibly dangerous precedent. Deciding who is is fit for office is the job of the electorate, not the courts.",17,2022-02-16 00:35:39
hx3sy2k,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Who gets to decide what reality is? Making laws against people with bad opinions is a street we don’t need to travel down.,17,2022-02-15 23:53:49
hx2qcub,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","They're not just pulling this out of their butts. A section of the 14th Amendment bars people that have engaged in ""insurrection or rebellion"" against the United States from holding office. As far as who'd enforce it, well, not sure. My best guess is Congress, but ask a constitutional lawyer.",17,2022-02-15 19:43:33
hx3y2k7,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Whoa, snowflake, that’s what we patriots call legitimate political discourse",17,2022-02-16 00:31:23
hx2uhph,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",This could be use for Dems if GOP ever wins lol BAD IDEA....,17,2022-02-15 20:10:12
hx32jyp,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Engaging in stochastic terrorism and fomenting insurrection *are* crimes. The problem is that a third of the country doesn't see it as an insurrection but as ""legitimate discourse.""",17,2022-02-15 21:00:52
hx4mkf7,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","“Try to be about 80% right. That way people know you are usually reasonably intelligent, but then you also aren’t shocked on the occasion you’re wrong.” —My Dad and my comment years ago that became a life mantra",17,2022-02-16 03:36:14
hx3xe5z,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],16,2022-02-16 00:26:21
hx4dfsd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","That's the interesting one. Looks like Cawthorne and lawyer are still advancing terrible arguments to the courts as well. It's a bit too much to break down in a comment, Opening Arguments podcast has been doing a good job of it.
The more pessimistic part of me thinks that this could easily turn into an epic shitfight because it starts with state election boards. The danger is that various boards will decide it differently, then it goes to state courts and maybe state supreme courts. If there's diffent outcomes it gets kicked up to federal and eventually the supreme court. Thats not a perfect description of the process but I'm not a lawyer. Once it gets on that path it becomes another interminably long battle that doesn't achieve anything useful for years while the authoritarian takeover continues.",16,2022-02-16 02:26:42
hx69q4g,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Kind of like attacking CRT because they’re repressing guilt at being racist.,16,2022-02-16 14:08:43
hx2rvty,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","while were at it, why not have a fact-checker on the floor of all 3 branches so that when someone spews out some nonsense, they have to address it by disproving it.",15,2022-02-15 19:53:19
hx4ertn,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",I guess you could say it was a smear campaign.,15,2022-02-16 02:36:32
hx3mvnh,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Gilly-ade,15,2022-02-15 23:10:35
hx2pppx,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],15,2022-02-15 19:39:25
hx3u2wp,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No, but government literature is required to be written at a 4th grade level because that's what the average American is capable of reading.
Ballot propositions and candidate information should also have to be written at a 4th grade level, so at least most people understand what they're voting for.",15,2022-02-16 00:01:54
hx3axes,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","If you can't get a security clearance, you probably shouldn't be looking at government secrets. Right, Jared?",14,2022-02-15 21:52:31
hx394kh,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Imagine if there was a party that had nothing but debunked conspiracy theories and promoted criminal treason. They'd probably be terrified of this.,14,2022-02-15 21:41:22
hx459mz,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Court ordered subpoenas are enforceable, questions still exist if one’s from congress actually are. Plus, If this tried in court they would have to comply to defend themselves.",14,2022-02-16 01:25:23
hx40fg2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Right, and one of the requirements is not supporting an insurrection against the government of the United States. That's the language these protesters are citing.",14,2022-02-16 00:49:01
hx3hmzg,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Now this is how you drain the swamp,13,2022-02-15 22:35:16
hx3kdt7,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_access
22 states have limitations from being allowed on the ballot, but of course *now* that it infringes on your narrative we're literally China.",13,2022-02-15 22:53:31
hx403vn,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Lol. I forgot how the Q-Shaman guy was just casually asking questions.,13,2022-02-16 00:46:35
hx3xbjl,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Just asking questions ended with the Jan. 6th insurrection, with the republican election inhibiting bills, with the ample evidence of lying and misinformation being spread by the right.",13,2022-02-16 00:25:47
hx330xs,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This is just another version of the tolerance paradox. If we don't bar people from running who represent a clear and present danger to the safety of the country, they will take power and do it themselves.",13,2022-02-15 21:03:48
hx4oeq9,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Don’t forget we are talking about the “grab em by the pussy” party.,13,2022-02-16 03:50:45
hx3lpx3,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],13,2022-02-15 23:02:37
hx3yaid,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Honestly it was nothing compared to 1/6.,13,2022-02-16 00:33:02
hx3zxee,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","It’s not “tricky” it’s impossible.
That’s why we went with democracy instead.",12,2022-02-16 00:45:13
hx3yhwb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Nobody is getting banned for asking questions. People would get banned for refusing to accept answers to those questions, refusing to acknowledge evidence that refutes those questions, and refusing to acknowledge they're just spreading lies because that's their prerogative and goal.",12,2022-02-16 00:34:31
hx2y56z,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Only if they have tried to overthrow the election by force.,12,2022-02-15 20:33:42
hx6j7vk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I agree with it. I try to know what i’m talking about, but strive to be willing to admit if i’m wrong or if someone changes my mind on something. Part of being “intelligent” is the understanding that i’m not omniscient, and so if new information presents itself, i can update my knowledge and / or opinions",12,2022-02-16 15:15:43
hx3uypy,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Thanks for the snark. Treason carries a minimum 5 year and maximum penalty of Death in the United States. So, how are these people getting on the ballot anytime soon if they engaged in an insurrection only a year ago?",12,2022-02-16 00:08:19
hx4gvtc,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The headline is wrong.
""ban those who worked to overturn the 2020 election from running again."" Is the actual cause.
Just so happen all the people in on outright lying to the public and stoking conspiratorial antidemocratic backlash are almost exclusively republican.
It's more of a statement about the kind of people Republicans are electing.",11,2022-02-16 02:52:16
hx44yy8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",They will forever be known as seditionists for as long as American history is written. Their coup attempt will be recorded the world over. These scum have to be opposed and broken at some point. Or it's gonna be them in charge for the forseeable future after they rig their states so they can never lose again.,11,2022-02-16 01:23:07
hx3y7yl,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Blaming terrorism for an unethical and unjustified invasion as a smoke screen to take strategic resources and consolidate power? Wait that sounds familiar…,11,2022-02-16 00:32:31
hx2qqjd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],11,2022-02-15 19:45:59
hx3t2e8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Why do you love disenfranchising voters?,11,2022-02-15 23:54:39
hx3shnc,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",You run a candidate against her.,11,2022-02-15 23:50:34
hx4981k,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",That’s kinda my point. They would be the ones imitating the lawsuit to stay on the ballot. So not complying could result in them being left off the ballot.,11,2022-02-16 01:55:05
hx32q7c,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",All that redefining sh\*t gotta stop too. IDENTITTTY POLITICS is killing the whole damn bird.,11,2022-02-15 21:01:56
hx3djz4,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Wildly unconstitutional.,10,2022-02-15 22:08:41
hx2upt2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Ah yes, I'm sure this will never be used against people it was never intended to. The authoritarian mind is hilariously simplistic.",10,2022-02-15 20:11:37
hx3rw1k,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Same people who whine about Cancel Culture and liberals being Snow Flakes. In the meantime, they are those things. With the party of hypocrisy - no surprise.",10,2022-02-15 23:46:14
hx3egd2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","So no religious people in government?
Or who gets to decide what is out of touch with reality?",10,2022-02-15 22:14:24
hx3yi2d,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],10,2022-02-16 00:34:34
hx2yxay,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Opening Arguments did a podcast episode (actually 2) on this process recently. The state board of elections issues an advisory opinion, which can then be challenged in state court. The board's opinion is non-binding to courts, but any fact finding is treated as hard evidence.
Then, from the courts it turns binding and gets appealed upwards until the courts say to stop (ie either state SC level or the case is so bad the court denies the appeal). Once the state SC rules then Cawthorne can appeal to the SCOTUS for a cert (very rarely granted, and Cawthorne is such a bad defendant that I think even this SC would look for a different figure head).
So far it looks like Cawthorne is in a lot of trouble. The only possible save for him is if the SCOTUS steps in and ""reinterprets"" the very plain language of the statute. A lot of the courts and boards he faces have democratic majorities. His other problem (aside from the law being very much NOT on his side) is that he hired an awful lawyer and submitted a terrible argument to the courts - the Board's decision is stayed until redistricting is finished, and his lawyer interpreted ""stayed"" as ""not pending"" (this is very wrong).
Basically, Cawthorne's lawyer submitted a request for the court to rule on the board's decision, before the board had made a decision, and before it was even decided if his district exists next year.
Additionally, he made the appeal to a federal court for a state court matter, before the state court had decided (violates a principle called Younger abstention). Not only not before they had decided, before they had even heard the case.
https://openargs.com/oa569-cawthorn-is-as-bad-at-picking-lawyers-as-he-is-at-not-doing-insurrections/
https://openargs.com/oa565-how-madison-cawthorn-could-be-kept-off-the-ballot/
Basically, it's the state courts. Congress can also expel a member using the law as justification, but that's unlikely.",10,2022-02-15 20:38:34
hx4otaj,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Jesus, when you see it all at once like that it is funny, but it feels sad.",10,2022-02-16 03:54:02
hx3jawk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","they literally wrote an amendment to the US Constitution to deal with this. (14 sec.3 i believe)
just use what's already in place.",10,2022-02-15 22:46:19
hx3nfso,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Where do you draw the line on whose vote to suppress and whose not to suppress? How would you word a law that you think would fairly and justly suppress votes?,10,2022-02-15 23:14:27
hx2s8iy,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">You’re assuming that we can’t tell the difference
I don't care what you can tell. You are not the government by yourself.
I care how and why the government can say this person or that person can't run for office.
It had better be for a reason that is objective and provable in a court of law, and it had better not be frivolous. Otherwise you are just asking for them to make it so the liberal candidate can't run as well.
Look. I know this is infuriating. They are RIGHT THERE. They are so full of shit. Why can't you just kick them out of power?
Because that is exactly what they want to do to you and what they think about you.
Yes, you have the benefit of being right. But a functioning country requires that we prove it in a neutral setting or go toward anarchy.",10,2022-02-15 19:55:35
hx3amsj,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Elections would go smoother with only 1 candidate running.,9,2022-02-15 21:50:44
hx3o9u1,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",This is terrifying.,9,2022-02-15 23:20:17
hx3xops,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Yeah, they embarrass themselves on their own. We are concerned about the state of our union and the future of the planet.",9,2022-02-16 00:28:30
hx4z3go,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],9,2022-02-16 05:25:31
hx32sse,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","What do you do when the fucking other guy and his cronies overrule the election defeat?
The time to kick them out is now by whatever means we have at hand.",9,2022-02-15 21:02:23
hx45rf2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No it’s about voter suppression. They know the election was fair, they just didn’t like the results. So they will try and restrict who can vote next time, to win. Simple as that.",9,2022-02-16 01:29:03
hx3dbkn,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">Democrats enforcing those laws
Enforcing laws is not something politicians do, it's something law enforcement should be doing. Please reevaluate where you're placing the blame.",9,2022-02-15 22:07:15
hx3zlbl,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You’re describing a dictatorship you just don’t know you are.
You seem to forget the point of the expression “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried.”",9,2022-02-16 00:42:42
hx48sb6,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",They wouldn’t have to comply. They’d have to comply if they wanted to stay out of jail and not be subject to a default judgement,9,2022-02-16 01:51:47
hx40bhv,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">Tell me, which law enforcement has not been pressing charges in general and specifically not pressing charges against Trump?
...the DOJ?",9,2022-02-16 00:48:11
hx3c3oc,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">bronze age book
Assuming you're talking about the Bible with this quote, it's important to note that the Bronze age is far older than the Bible.
In 2022 we're about as far from the writing of the Bible as the writers of the Bible would have been from height of the Bronze Age.",9,2022-02-15 21:59:39
hx49fn0,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Ah misread you then. Cheers,9,2022-02-16 01:56:40
hx3u8yq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",I agree I was just spitballing. Holding far right propaganda factories like Fox OANN and newsmax accountable would probably be more productive.,9,2022-02-16 00:03:06
hx3uenc,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Explain to me how election conspiracy theorists relates to your point? Surely if they really were engaged in a genuine conspiracy to overthrow the United States government, they would be in jail and unable to put themselves on the ballot in the first place?",9,2022-02-16 00:04:16
hx3wume,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Fair enough. I just scrolled through this thread and I saw a lot of ""liberals"" talking about restricting who can and cannot vote and was flabbergasted.",9,2022-02-16 00:22:18
hx3t5dy,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","IMHO they're definitely not stable, but if a system was in place to ban people from voting, what would have stopped Trump from using it in 2020 to control the election in his favor?
People who are mentally ill, unstable, even actually diagnosed psychopaths... still get a vote. That's how it is and how it must remain.",9,2022-02-15 23:55:13
hx3cbvr,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","As much as they disgust me for using such idiotic conspiracy of Trump. I cannot applaud this, this is not what We the people stands for in our constitution.the 14th protects all people's rights , if we allow this , disenfranchisement will affect every one",8,2022-02-15 22:01:04
hx3jrzb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I’m more interested how they’d Catagorise a conspiracy theorist? Isn’t this the Political equivalent of creating a 1 party government. It’s the enabling act of 1933!
We’ll soon be burning books and putting republicans in camps for reeducation.",8,2022-02-15 22:49:29
hx3ad8t,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],8,2022-02-15 21:49:08
hx3tpbm,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Who gets to decide what “out of touch with reality” looks like?,8,2022-02-15 23:59:11
hx2p4uk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",We're going to have very few people eligible to vote or run in that case,8,2022-02-15 19:35:40
hx3jsu5,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Fault of our schooling, too. And though it's imperative for our high-school kids to understand why it's important to vote for candidates on their merits (experience, diplomacy, patience, integrity, convictions, etc), rather than their image or ""perceived power"", I don't think it's actually working. And we have private and religious schools that escape all forms of oversight that overtly condition (some even going as far as demanding) students to vote for specific breeds of candidates. I agree that schools should be apolitical, not taking stances on contemporary political issues, but at least instill critical thinking skills and foster amongst the students of US Government classes the time and desire to debate the issues.",8,2022-02-15 22:49:38
hx31moq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","There is nothing vague in this group of people. This may not always be the case, which I believe is your point. In that case I completely agree. We certainly don’t want to see censorship, so it’s going to take some creative language within the lawmakers to address this. Which in turn leads me back to my assessment that our current Congress, appears to be out of touch in this realm.",8,2022-02-15 20:55:11
hx2uxnw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This thread is full of people calling for genocide, eugenics, and complete suppression of rights. Wtf is going on??",8,2022-02-15 20:13:00
hx470kl,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Lol he called it political discourse 🤡 how embarrassing,8,2022-02-16 01:38:32
hx31p7p,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">Wtf is going on??
A bit of fantasy and a bit of hyperbole.",8,2022-02-15 20:55:38
hx2p9fg,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],8,2022-02-15 19:36:28
hx3tefk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",The 14th amendment is disenfranchising voters? Must be because they support treasonous criminals?,8,2022-02-15 23:57:02
hx3svyt,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I’m ok with people who haven’t actively tried to disrupt our elections having a say.
But if you have tried to subvert democracy then you shouldn’t get to participate.",8,2022-02-15 23:53:24
hx3xu21,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","If 51% of us literally believe a satanic cannibalistic pedo cabal exsits, then we deserve everything we get and our time as an influential society is well deservedly over.",8,2022-02-16 00:29:36
hx3y4en,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">If you take away their ability to participate in the political process the only option you leave them with is violence.
We are rapidly heading in that direction anyways, except it's currently suppressing the people who want to fix everything.
Those Boston Dynamic robot dogs with mounted gatling guns aren't for the people asking for their rights back, it's for when the people *stop asking nicely* for their rights back.",8,2022-02-16 00:31:46
hx3u0k4,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I am just pointing out that just because you don’t agree with someone, and you think they may have a screw loose, it doesn’t mean they can’t vote. Because things get Really messy Really quickly when you start trying to exclude people from being a part of the democratic process because you don’t believe they should have the right, for whatever reason.
We have to take the good with the bad, otherwise the entire system is compromised.
Yes, there’s been A Lot of bad lately and the crazies are getting lots of attention, BUT that also means that the good people are paying more attention, and getting fired up, and organizing, and uniting. There’s enough people in this country that don’t want the crazies to win, on Both sides, that it will make it nearly impossible for the crazies to Really make any changes.
But as soon as people start trying to change the system so it fits their agenda, well then everyone becomes a crazy in someone’s eyes, and where would it end??",8,2022-02-16 00:01:26
hx56xfa,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Anyone remotely involved in Jan 6 should be banned from ever running for office,7,2022-02-16 06:50:09
hx2lrls,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",So they want all the Republicans removed from the ballots then?,7,2022-02-15 19:14:11
hx2n1uf,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The elector system has to go. Its an antiquated system developed before cars existed, let alone the internet and phones. It has so so many holes that bad actors can take advantage and try to rig the system. I dont know exactly what the solution is, but i know for sure that what we have is not safe.",7,2022-02-15 19:22:26
hx3wvt2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Dangerous to start banning people from running for their views.,7,2022-02-16 00:22:33
hx3ifqt,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",No one that disagrees with my outlook can vote?! Now THIS is democracy!!!!,7,2022-02-15 22:40:35
hx3sems,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Kenobi-you-have-done-that-yourself.mov,7,2022-02-15 23:49:58
hx3xm49,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Can they expand it to Missouri also?
I really don't want to deal with Hawley screwing everything up again.",7,2022-02-16 00:27:58
hx33tua,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No, the courts define the truth. Judges nominated by both parties upheld Biden's win.",7,2022-02-15 21:08:45
hx44gng,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You DO realize that the US Constitution doesn't just begin and end with the 2nd Amendment, right? In fact, the 14th Amendment. Section Three covers that: a person is barred from any state, federal or judicial office after having “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”.
And that fits those traitorous fuckers to a T.",7,2022-02-16 01:19:17
hx4085q,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Not really. What's terrifying is that one party is still beholden to a man who tried to orchestrate a coup to hold onto power after losing an election.,7,2022-02-16 00:47:29
hx3l6u8,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_access
22 states do in fact have limitations from being put on the ballot.",7,2022-02-15 22:59:00
hx40uhk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","> You don’t ban citizens from running for president.
Sure you do. A lot of states have laws in place that keep people off the ballot.",7,2022-02-16 00:52:05
hx3z9gi,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No, it should make *people not want to vote for you*. Because that’s the only “qualification”. There’s no court in America that can be higher than the electorate and there never should be. Nobody has the right to overrule the voting public on the basis that they know what’s better for the people, this is the very fundamental ideal of democracy.",7,2022-02-16 00:40:16
hx3k0nw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",being right wing is the largest unclassified mental illness in the world,7,2022-02-15 22:51:03
hx3mnsd,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Don't blame schools when schools are subject to the influence of outside forces that determine what it taught and what isn't. First, let schools set their own curriculum, give them the funding they need without restrictions, and THEN blame them for not teaching critical thinking skills",7,2022-02-15 23:09:08
hx3ff3j,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Idk why it’s funny… if you’re guilty of treason and sedition you shouldn’t be on a ballot. I also lean towards … aiding a foreign government too,7,2022-02-15 22:20:42
hx446qw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","""So there I was in the Capital, looking for Mike Pence, and just asked the question: how many times do you wrap the lead rope for a typical noose?""",7,2022-02-16 01:17:13
hx4i01d,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",">Did he eat a large order of McDonalds Freedom Fries?
Plot twist: it was actually documents that Trump ate and digested that his followers smeared on the walls",7,2022-02-16 03:00:40
hx46m3u,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Both sides? Seriously?,7,2022-02-16 01:35:30
hx457w0,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","In other words, people can only run for office if they’re pre-approved by the Party?
[If only someone had tried this so we could see how it works…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Hong_Kong_electoral_changes)",7,2022-02-16 01:25:01
hx3topv,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","The nonsense, politically motivated reading of the 14th amendment that the author of this article is spouting, yes absolutely.",7,2022-02-15 23:59:04
hx3lzuq,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",[deleted],7,2022-02-15 23:04:30
hx2r9pb,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","You’re assuming that we can’t tell the difference. Not a hard thing to prove when the candidate themselves are on video. Multiple times in some instances. There’s definitely a line trying to be drawn here, as most people can identify the members that are insane, dishonest, lacking a moral code - by their own rhetoric. To do a blanket censor is not what I believe this movement is trying to achieve.",7,2022-02-15 19:49:24
hx3tvy1,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","What about the literal reading of the 14th amendment.
>a person is barred from any state, federal or judicial office after having “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”.
I guess if you're interested in using violence to stop elections, this might be threatening to you.",7,2022-02-16 00:00:31
hx3obfw,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Definitely. There's no question that this won't end until we can stomp out the source of the Q shit.,7,2022-02-15 23:20:35
hx49l97,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",No worries! Cheers.,7,2022-02-16 01:57:52
hx3wl6j,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I actually didn't say it is a good idea.
It's just the current possible method to remove voting privileges from citizens who commit felonies.
I'm against felons losing the right to vote -- I'm also a proponent of dismantling the police state.",7,2022-02-16 00:20:21
hx4ec1f,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",I think it would be a lot easier to just put the people that betrayed our country in jail.,6,2022-02-16 02:33:21
hx3rv45,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Hmmm… should we let bad actors participate in a system if their obvious intention is to destroy the system and hurt other people?
Not a difficult question.",6,2022-02-15 23:46:03
hx3k8um,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of democracy?,6,2022-02-15 22:52:34
hx3uslu,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",It seems very very dangerous to ban people from running for public office who haven't been convicted of a crime just based on thier opinion on something.,6,2022-02-16 00:07:03
hx4e94m,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",So a one party election? Hmm that smells like Fascism.,6,2022-02-16 02:32:45
hx4qo88,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","A few years ago there was that big debacle (one of many) with the Catholic church and abusing young boys. When the discussion came up around the family table, a Trump-ette aunt of mine said she felt horrible... for the church. She didn't make any comments on the boys or their well being, just felt bad that the church was getting bad publicity.
A Trump-er uncle of mine also told me he didn't believe much of what was being reported about the insurrection on January 6th. I asked if he watched the footage and he replied, ""No, I only watched a few seconds, it was too hard to watch"". Then he went on to defend all the insurrectionists as being peaceful and nonviolent... despite admitting to not watching the footage.
It's about protecting their personal identity that they've attached to an ideal/party. They assume we're trying to harm them or embarass them, etc. when really we're just trying to make justice happen, i.e. investigating and ideally incarcerating those priests and people in power who abused children.
It's quite frustrating. Many kids don't mature with age.",6,2022-02-16 04:09:23
hx3xc69,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","They gotta say this though. They did a treason. The only defense for doing a treason is saying ""don't look at the treason"".",6,2022-02-16 00:25:55
hx2vbki,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","No reason they should be, unless proven guilty of serious crimes in a court of law.",6,2022-02-15 20:15:32
hx3as7z,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Funny you should bring that “unless” up.,6,2022-02-15 21:51:39
hx3w71n,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",You should JAQ off in private. No one wants to see it.,6,2022-02-16 00:17:26
hx3cjpj,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",This comment made me so hard I may have to see a doctor,6,2022-02-15 22:02:25
hx350kk,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","Yep. Biden won.
Nobody rational is disputing that.
What I am talking about is restricting access to public office by anything less than a criminal conviction (and in many cases even that) being a dangerous road.",6,2022-02-15 21:16:07
hx3ei7f,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Yep. Totally agree.,6,2022-02-15 22:14:44
hx452nt,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",2016 kinda felt like that,6,2022-02-16 01:23:54
hx3zc2d,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",If Republicans have to choose between power and democracy they will choose power. Seems you will too.,6,2022-02-16 00:40:48
hx3ycw0,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",<sarcasm> (⌐■\_■),6,2022-02-16 00:33:32
hx3pk1w,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",Yours Is the smartest comment I have read recently.I respect it.,6,2022-02-15 23:29:24
hx44jcy,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",It's literally some board 4 Chan user,6,2022-02-16 01:19:50
hx5ss8y,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This isn’t the only conspiracy that Trump promoted. Other examples:
Covid came from a lab, Hillary spied on him, Hunter was taking bribes for access to the “ big guy “ We need to censor this dangerous misinformation. Americans should only have access to the information that is deemed true.",5,2022-02-16 11:34:01
hx54tly,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",This has to be done because 14th amendment section 3 applies to insurrectionists that attacked the US a legacy of the Civil War. If enforced Trump Cawthorn Hawley Cruz & Stefanik are banned permanently in elections and office due to them being involved with January 6th,5,2022-02-16 06:25:55
hx3hm4w,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","I actually disagree... as much as I don't want to see people who can't accept reality running things, a much better message would for society to just beat them decidedly at the ballot box.",5,2022-02-15 22:35:06
hx3xbk2,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024",If people want to vote for crazy why shouldn’t they be able to? Soon as we start banning people from running we’re going to have an even bigger shit show.,5,2022-02-16 00:25:47
hx3ugjo,sta5xj,"Protests at state capitols call for election conspiracists to be banned from ballots | Supporters want Trump, other GOP loyalists banned from running in 2022, 2024","This should be downvoted like hell, but it's being supported. That is crazy.",5,2022-02-16 00:04:39