comment_id,post_id,post_title,body,score,created_utc kafzn1t,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","We cannot let Donald Trump win the 2024 election. This is one of the most important elections in human history, between Democracy and *FASCISM*. We have to tow the party line on this one. I have issues with Biden, but if the alternative is fascism then I'll vote Biden 100% of the time.",1443,2023-11-23 14:51:20 kag6z6x,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",All we can do is hope that the new batch of 8 million plus gen z voters will turn out and make even more of a loss for Trump than what we saw in 2020,1039,2023-11-23 15:43:37 kafzsig,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Their republicans want a dictator so badly. They’ll destroy that republic in order to achieve it.,835,2023-11-23 14:52:24 kagedbd,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",My son turns 18 two weeks before Election Day - so that’s one.,522,2023-11-23 16:33:16 kag0yg9,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",I have done nothing but vote for democrats or non partisans since 2016 - at every level of office. I am a moderate and I would normally vote for some republicans but there is no way I will do that until this disease is gone. We have to get involved locally and all the way up. I was very involved in our city’s last election cycle this spring and after a little pause I’ll ramp up for 2024,517,2023-11-23 15:00:56 kag5pw4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I remember when 45, praising China’s leader, said he should run for permanent president. Such a “patriot”.",386,2023-11-23 15:34:58 kafxs7j,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],372,2023-11-23 14:37:16 kagngr0,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",They’re so fearful of a tolerant America that supports people from all walks of life that they’re prepared to install a fascist dictatorship to reverse it.,276,2023-11-23 17:33:17 kag7oqs,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",It’s not about Trump winning it’s about people who vote for Trump. That’s the problem.,246,2023-11-23 15:48:26 kagsrmw,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Your son = hope,215,2023-11-23 18:07:54 kagc2qt,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","They love the Constitution, and country, so much they are ready to let their leaders completely shred it.",203,2023-11-23 16:17:55 kagcxfp,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","That’s how I am. I respected the hell out of McCain and Bush Sr, and truly felt the Republican Party that I could see myself voting for died with them. Until shit in the GOP changes this moderate will only vote Democrat",174,2023-11-23 16:23:35 kah7lrb,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Pathetic assholes. Conservatives are why we can't have nice things.,171,2023-11-23 19:47:14 kaguye8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Mine turns 18 in December 2024 and is PISSED he won't get to vote against Trump.,168,2023-11-23 18:21:57 kaghqkf,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Which I understand but the alternative isn’t gonna be friendly to them either ffs.,156,2023-11-23 16:55:24 kag1emf,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",If Trump wins....the civil war restarts. We're moving from Floriduh back to California and hiding behind Gavin.,150,2023-11-23 15:04:12 kaibohx,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","This is literally true in every sense. Healthcare, environment, safety, income, minority rights, infrastructure. How anyone supports them is truly beyond me. It is all windowing for some selfish or bigoted view, hiding behind “I’m fiscally conservative” which literally means nothing with these clowns",115,2023-11-24 00:52:04 kagf411,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",We’ll see. A bunch of them are saying they won’t vote for “genocide Joe” because of how he’s handled the Israel/Palestine conflict.,112,2023-11-23 16:38:12 kagsdex,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Young voters are very fickle - many of them are very aware and informed but also sometimes lack perspective and nuance. Add in a generation that grew up with purity tests, fears of ‘cancellation’, and a very stark black-and-white moral compass and it can turn bad fast. There’s an unfortunate amount of truth to the old adage, “Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.“ Once a Democrat or liberal voter feels betrayed - in some vague or concrete way, it’s an uphill battle to get them to come to their senses.",111,2023-11-23 18:05:25 kagq6ob,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Also after his visit to NK he remarked that he would want to give that leadership a try.,108,2023-11-23 17:51:07 kag7d8h,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",*If* Trump wins does anyone think he’ll wait until Inauguration Day? Or just throw a coup the day after Election Day? My guess is the latter,100,2023-11-23 15:46:17 kagne72,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","[They’re planning on building gigantic prison camps to round up all the migrants and their families for deportation.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-sweeping-undocumented-immigrant-roundups-detention-camps-report-2023-11-11/) Once that’s done, who do you think they’ll be coming for next? Here’s a hint from Trump’s veterans day speech: “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.”",93,2023-11-23 17:32:49 kagczv7,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",And who come after Trump...because its been getting worse for a long time,87,2023-11-23 16:24:01 kagho5b,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",How is he even allowed to re-run when he's been impeached and arrested .\_.,85,2023-11-23 16:54:59 kagx797,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I think with young voters it also comes down to not having been through multiple cycles swinging back and forth to realize that punishing a person you mostly agree with by voting for the people you mostly disagree with, generally doesnt work out the way youd like it to.",80,2023-11-23 18:36:52 kaghkt1,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I don’t like Biden. I don’t like the current state of the Democratic Party. I don’t like how he’s handling the situation in Israel and Gaza right now. And I hate the two party system. I’m voting for Biden. Full stop. I hate it but I’m doing it. Trump cannot win this election. Set aside your views. No one gets everything they want. But Biden has to win.",77,2023-11-23 16:54:22 kag9ie1,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Is this going to be every headline until the election? This is how you burn people out.,71,2023-11-23 16:00:45 kagdcuw,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Donate as much as you can and give whatever time you’re able to, I ask my friends and relatives to vote and I try to help anyone who needs help voting to go vote. I live in Texas, it has an impact locally but not statewide (yet).",71,2023-11-23 16:26:27 kag6fjr,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","The reality is that Biden might be up in years, but he’s in good health( slim and is active) and he is of sound mind. His speeches are coherent and well delivered; his policies have been significant ( internet to rural communities, bridge projects finally moving forward ( Brent Spence in Cincinnati/ Kentucky), more access to car chargers, and lower prices for drugs critical to continuing the lives of seniors. He’s been able to keep up a demanding schedule of meetings in the country, and traveling outside the country to meet with world leaders. The republicans work hard on making Biden seem feeble and incompetent, which he clearly isn’t. I’m inclined to believe that Biden becoming the president again will not be problematic. It might be good to have the next democrat presidential candidate be younger to keep young voters engaged, enthusiastic, and committed to voting in elections.",69,2023-11-23 15:39:51 kag7of3,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I used to live in Alabama, but in 2018 I voted for a dem senator who won. If that can happen, anything can happen. Just because it usually feels hopeless doesn’t mean it always is. VOTE every time.",66,2023-11-23 15:48:23 kag8meh,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","It's often dismissed but history has repeatedly shown us that these kind of changes happen swiftly and unexpectedly. Very few people saw the breakup of the USSR as a possibility until it happened. If the fucking moron retakes the White House and the rest of the federal government fails to restrain him, then a significant breakaway movement will erupt on the west coast. Of course, this is the goal of many actors, both domestic and abroad. No doubt Moscow, Beijing, and Ryiadh would love to see America fracture and cease to be the hegemonic power in the world, for better or worse",66,2023-11-23 15:54:46 kagxw4u,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",There are also quite a few Trump voters who have gone sour on him but won't vote for Biden. If enough of them don't vote at all it could have an effect. It would be painfully ironic if democracy is saved by people not participating in the democratic process.,65,2023-11-23 18:41:26 kag1kng,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",If the indolent donut is selected by the electoral college again you know America's planned obsolescence is here.,64,2023-11-23 15:05:24 kafzdih,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",I for one welcome our new malarkey hating overlord,62,2023-11-23 14:49:21 kaggy5c,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Let’s turn Texas blue,57,2023-11-23 16:50:16 kah1378,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Because the system was designed to run on handshakes and social ties, not ironclad laws of legal physics. What's legal is what they can get away with.",56,2023-11-23 19:02:49 kahaneu,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I'm 64F - for the love of our country, PLEASE GEN Z get out there and vote. The USA needs a radical change in who runs this country. 95% of all politicians need to retire. It is time to turn things over to the younger generations!",55,2023-11-23 20:08:08 kags21d,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I think there was specific language saying “without due process” which means they just sweep anyone they don’t like up and might figure out you’re actually a citizen later. Much later. Maybe never. Sorry I can’t find the source right now, am on mobile. It’s not just immigrants. Hell it won’t even be only oppressed minorities, trans, and lgbtq+ communities. If you’re dating the sheriff’s ex-wife, or campaigned against him in a local election, or they dont think you go to church enough, they could bring you in for processing that never really gets completed. Or at least detain you long enough for you to lose your job or miss some paychecks. Now imagine if your local police chief or sherif believes in Qanon or white replacement or reptilian politicians.",54,2023-11-23 18:03:19 kag961y,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],53,2023-11-23 15:58:27 kagck4b,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",This comment is about 8 years too late. Hopefully keeping trump out of office will be more important than staying home or casting a woke vote for Jill Stein next year.,52,2023-11-23 16:21:07 kagg8wc,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],50,2023-11-23 16:45:41 kag5b9k,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",We have to fight against the Republican Party for this and every future election as long as it takes to break them and have a saner republican party form that doesn’t support fascism.,50,2023-11-23 15:32:08 kagdf2g,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","The bigger issue is that this was the same argument the first time he was elected. Sure, there's a lot more evidence now, but it's not like any of his behavior was a surprise. So... even if we win 2024. These psychos will have another Trump (or maybe even actually trump) in 2028, 2032, etc. I thought - or hoped - that the right wing insanity would cool after trump lost. It obviously hasn't. That's the concerning part. Because eventually GOP will win the executive. And so far, the new Trumps seem arguably worse than the old one.",50,2023-11-23 16:26:52 kagvez5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","He’s running entirely to avoid prison, so the question is really whether or not there’s a legal threat to him",50,2023-11-23 18:24:59 kag8hwi,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Also friendly reminder that Trump is old af too.,50,2023-11-23 15:53:56 kafyxyq,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","If we're gonna slip into Authoritarianism then Joe Biden should just do what Trump was gonna do anyway: Say the election was fraudulent, invoke the Insurrection Act and Declare Martial Law, before Trump gets the chance. Fuck it, right?",48,2023-11-23 14:46:08 kag6rk7,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I'd do that, honestly, Secession will begin within a year. I'll repeat this: the Reps will pass a federal abortion ban with no exceptions first chance they can get if they reclaim all 3 chambers (they're getting the Senate back, it's a guarantee, Dems are going to burn cash we need to re-elect Biden there and it'll suck- the House is our best shot to flip back in general, given the generic ballot is a tie overall right now), and that'll set off Blue states beginning to leave the Union by 2026.",48,2023-11-23 15:42:10 kag80bm,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","As a black woman, this really pisses me off. Like I get why they feel that way and I was apathetic about voting at 18 until I realized how much the govt impacts our daily lives. But ppl literally lost their lives so I could have the right to vote. Women and minorities rights are being taken away every day. Please remind your students that whenever it comes up, what they choose to do with that from there is on them of course.",48,2023-11-23 15:50:37 kagvsyc,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Not even so much that as there are a lot of people who say that the whole system is broken (which is true) so their belief is that we should burn it down as fast as possible. Many of these people are from the most privileged groups and don’t completely acknowledge how many people will suffer and die if there’s a second Trump presidency. Their goal is a revolution. And I totally understand that, but I myself can’t square it with the absolutely disgusting future we will face if Trump and his loyalists get in power again.",48,2023-11-23 18:27:34 kagd1pc,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Our lives may depend on it,47,2023-11-23 16:24:21 kag23fy,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],46,2023-11-23 15:09:09 kagavpe,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Absolutely, I see New England and the West Coast being the first to leave in a second Trump term a year in: they would rather secede than put women's lives in danger, and rightfully so, IMO. He's going to be like Buchanan, mark my words, people think it sounds hysterical but so far I believe Clinton, McCaskill, O'Rourke, etc on how dire things are right now in the USA: when you have a cult of white nationalism that has brought us to the precipice like this, nothing can be ruled out, we're already in a post-truth pre-fascism nation/anocracy so don't dismiss horrors because people don't want to hear it.",45,2023-11-23 16:09:58 kaglbjs,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Everything blue! They need to be able to fix the rigged & corrupt SC, they need to get the Voting Rights act in, they need to fix Gerrymandering & they need to fix the Minimum wage, Housing & Healthcare. They need to be able to hold Trump accountable for his crimes and not let him cheat his way out of justice. None of this razor thin margin with a handful of on/off ‘republican lite’ idiots like Manchin to cater too, they need veto proof majorities to fix the rot GOP obstructionism has wrought in the past couple of decades. Because if not, this fascism thing is going to come up again and again every election until these Nazi wannabes succeed.",43,2023-11-23 17:19:07 kah54p5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],41,2023-11-23 19:30:12 kaggd7a,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I’m already feeling burnt out. Unlike most people, the fear mongering isn’t fun for me. I’ll be there to vote at the primaries/the election, but the rest of this is just exhausting and I don’t want to do it for another year",41,2023-11-23 16:46:28 kagoaf5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Stop it. Dems have won and overperformed in a great number of elections since 2020, including very recently. A large percentage and volume of ppl care. The rich want trump, no doubt, and they will pull out all the stops to get him back in office. Fuck the rich. Write postcards, donate money, time, and effort to the fight. If good ppl give up, then trump will win.",40,2023-11-23 17:38:43 kahm1fk,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I hate to say it but a lot of them are just fucking stupid. I’ve been to a local trump rally before and one of the guys there was a truckers for trump person and he seemed like a nice guy “I don’t have a problem with anyone. BLM, trans you name it anyone’s welcome here. Am I gonna say that there aren’t racists here? No I’m not, there probably is but in my opinion everyones more than welcome here don’t let anyone bother you”",39,2023-11-23 21:29:46 kagx2h9,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Make sure he's registered.,39,2023-11-23 18:36:00 kagd4n4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","He wouldn’t actually be in power until Jan 2025. But yes it’s gonna be a shitshow if it happens. Get out there and vote",37,2023-11-23 16:24:54 kag2gmg,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Given the vast amount of talent this country has, that we are even remotely at this place is clear proof how broken things are . I feel particularly bad for my college students. They've shared the only path forward is for our system to crash and burn. They expressed no hope in voting as they believe there is nothing in it for them this way or that way. They desperately don't want Biden to run, and they certainly don't want Trump to run. So they feel the only way out of this quagmire is let the country tip into chaos with Trump and maybe something good will rise from the ashes.",36,2023-11-23 15:11:48 kag25uv,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",So you want to avoid slipping into authoritarianism by...slipping into authoritarianism?,36,2023-11-23 15:09:38 kaj17wq,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",And all of it in service of a ruling class that will keep them as serfs in perpetuity. Clowns.,36,2023-11-24 04:30:08 kagmmju,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","YES! They are learning from his bumbling. The fascists are getting elected in States and Judges have been appointed all over we the place. This isnt as small as some might want us to think. Our Democracy is in serious danger. This election is pivotable and going forward we will need to be ever vigilant to ferret out those up and coming fascists. They are positioning themselves for the long game.",35,2023-11-23 17:27:45 kagz9n9,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Yeah. It’s basically 2016 all over again. Except it’s 2015, we have the gift of foresight, and our name is Cassandra*. *Apollo granted Cassandra the gift of prophecy, but she then stirred his wrath by refusing his advances. So he cursed Cassandra so that her prophecies were always true, but never believed.",35,2023-11-23 18:50:37 kahg0r6,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",He does live in California. His vote will help keep California as the Big Blue Beacon of Hope.,34,2023-11-23 20:46:09 kag9z8z,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",And more likely to die of a coronary on the toilet.,33,2023-11-23 16:03:57 kah3oou,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Does he live in California? That state was wrapped up years ago. Is there time he could move to say idk Ohio? Ohio is probably lost but maybe there’s a chance,32,2023-11-23 19:20:16 kagdgj0,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","If we even allow this criminal traitor on the ballot, it will be a very dark Thanksgiving. He and his whoremasters have no intention of winning the election fairly and only want to destroy our entire democratic process",31,2023-11-23 16:27:08 kahon8y,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","One step forward, two steps back. It's how we ended up in this mess. 2010 was ""Obama isn't liberal enough,"" and we ended up with a red wave that gerrymandered a good deal of the country, locking in an easier path for Republican control of more state legislatures and congressional districts. In 2016, we had an opportunity to FINALLY turn the tide. A right-leaning SCOTUS had already given corporations more ability to fuck with our elections and allowed states to further fuck with voting rights. We could have righted the ship. But no... Hillary wasn't good enough, and so we got Trump. And with Trump, we got three new SCOTUS judges and a ton of judges in lower courts to rule in his personal favor, toss out laws, and basically just allow Republicans to do whatever they wanted. All of this ""punishing the Democrats"" for not being perfect doesn't seem to so much be punishing the Democrats. Hillary Clinton is going to be fine. Barack Obama is going to be fine. The generation behind them, however... They're going to have to face the repercussions of these decisions.",31,2023-11-23 21:49:11 kag0ogo,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","It's actually no problem. Kamala Harris can just not count the electoral votes and we can enter the infinite purgatory of not really really really being sure. If you notice, we're already at 2024 with STILL no evidence of voter fraud so dems can just ride this out for eternity. All they have to do is lie about the election being stolen because that makes it true Pence didn't have the courage, but Kamala will",29,2023-11-23 14:58:55 kagj82q,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I don’t think that’ll help. The orange turd actually said he’s going to send people to camps in a relatively recent campaign stop. He was supposedly talking specifically about immigrants (which is frightening enough already), but if I remember correctly, his explanation about who he was sending there was vague enough that he could consider anyone who opposes him as “illegal” and sending them to the camps. If he wins, the US will be a dictatorship and you’ll only have a limited time to get out. I’m not making the mistake that some people did when they didn’t flee Germany when Hitler took over. If he wins, I’m flying out before he gets inaugurated.",29,2023-11-23 17:05:16 kagmghz,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",There’s still a year for the conflict to smooth down and Trump to behave dumber,28,2023-11-23 17:26:37 kag8jps,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",I think people should accept the fact that elections are always a lesser of evils. It’s always been that way. Capitalism is a corrupt rigged system where corporate power and greed are the main drivers. It’s why we only have two shitty parties to choose from. Any sane person knows that Trump and his greedy parasites are not an option this time around.,27,2023-11-23 15:54:16 kaghrhw,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",They should stop calling themselves republicans and start calling themselves dic-takers,27,2023-11-23 16:55:34 kahecu8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",He claims victory the night of election night regardless of results knowing full well the votes aren’t nearly finished being counted. His followers blindly accept his claim and it just goes south from there.,27,2023-11-23 20:34:23 kaggti0,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Abbott is the likely person long term (I said Trump in '15 when everyone was laughing at the idea): they go further and further Right each time, think about it, as horrific as it sounds (assuming Trump isn't POTUS for life this time, could be, IF he wins).",27,2023-11-23 16:49:26 kagozev,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Abbott will not be able to replace Trump, he’s nowhere near as charismatic. Fascism requires a charismatic leader to sell it, because the ideas are so brutal.",27,2023-11-23 17:43:11 kag5vxy,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[removed],26,2023-11-23 15:36:06 kag4emr,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Ugh this is upsetting because not enough people actually vote to be able to claim voting doesn’t work.,26,2023-11-23 15:25:43 kah46bz,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","They want \*their\* dictator. They're violently opposed to any other. And they imagine everyone else wants the same.",25,2023-11-23 19:23:35 kag4qw1,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","In my state the republicans always win. I vote, but my efforts are futile.",24,2023-11-23 15:28:09 kag9xw8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","If Trump wins in 2024 it will be a dark everything and the after-effects of that darkness will last well into the 40’s. Effectively all of us, every single one of us in this country, hell on this planet will have a shittier life because of this one corrupt fat evil greedy sac of shit",24,2023-11-23 16:03:43 kaghqdu,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Things have changed so much in the last few election cycles. It used to be that I could find at least a little common ground with some Republicans, I respected guys like John McCain despite not agreeing with most of his platform. I truly think he loved America and wanted what's best for it. These days, though? Anyone still calling themselves a Republican is not due any respect. It's a party built on hate, and I have no doubt that most of them would willingly kill their fellow Americans to get the christofascist dictatorship that they dream of.",24,2023-11-23 16:55:22 kaghu9t,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Well Minnesota should just join Canada at this point. I would welcome cool healthcare,24,2023-11-23 16:56:04 kagrzki,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","It will stop if and only if we get up off our collective asses, VOTE them ALL out, and aggressively and unblinkingly confront their end-runs around democracy in the interest of authoritarian power and the destruction of democracy. VOTE And if you can, get involved in the process. Because they sure as fuck are. ",24,2023-11-23 18:02:52 kaga8f8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Yeah people seem to think secession is just yelling “I DECLARE SOVEREIGNTY!!!” And then closing your borders. It doesn’t work like that, Michael. That’s not what it means.",24,2023-11-23 16:05:39 kagcccr,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Local elections can set the groundwork for the future, school boards, mayors, school levies, treasurers and commissioners. Even if you abstain from national elections always, always, always, vote local.",23,2023-11-23 16:19:43 kahoh3w,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Thu think the constitution is terrible if it prevents them from hurting people.,22,2023-11-23 21:47:54 kahw3wd,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","In a way, I envy him. For he cannot be blamed for whatever happens.",22,2023-11-23 22:45:27 kaiad6l,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",White supremacists are why we can’t have nice things. They’re synonymous with republicans now. 🤬,21,2023-11-24 00:41:09 kagblr3,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Volunteer. Vote.,20,2023-11-23 16:14:47 kag8v9w,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Ignoring the fact it's illegal and treasonous, California would be unable to secede-the only reason the South got away was because Buchanan didn't do anything because of his shitty advisors, because the South had militias, because they had months until Lincoln was inaugurated, because there was no organized opposition in most of the South, and because the military degraded during the Buchanan administration. If California secedes, even the day after election day, they'll only have two months and two weeks to prepare some form of army or tactic to deal with the best armed forces in the world while dealing with Republican insurgents in rural areas and possibly Biden's unwillingness to compromise the territory of America.",20,2023-11-23 15:56:24 kaholg5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","That was the biggest revelation of the Trump presidency for me. It was horrifying to realize that the only thing holding our democracy together is tradition, good faith, and the assumption the American people wouldn’t elect a psychotic narcissist asshole to the White House.",20,2023-11-23 21:48:49 kah9vfb,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Blue states will not secede if Trump wins. It would all but give Trump a pass to do whatever he wanted with those states using the power of the US government and military. People fantasize about it, but seceding is a big big big deal. Massachusetts wouldn't secede if Trump banned abortion federally, they'd just refuse to enforce it at the state-level. States refuse to enforce federal laws on things like guns, marijuana, and immigration. If the feds banned abortion, it'd be the same thing. If secession were to ever happen, Trump states would leave the Union to create ""The American States of America"" or some bullshit, not the other way around.",20,2023-11-23 20:02:48 kagdrek,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","And do it up and down the ballot. While the presidential election is important, state and local elections are important too. Local elections can especially be impacted by getting out and trying to mobilize others.",19,2023-11-23 16:29:11 kageils,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I don’t know what fell sorcery keeps his clogged heart pumping, but I’m 87% certain its mostly spite at this point. Like most bitter old people.",19,2023-11-23 16:34:16 kag9f9q,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I do think that while people get a rush out of all the speculation and fear mongering, it's important to keep in mind that there are some very smart and experienced people who are working on all kinds of mitigation strategies right now. If the fucking moron wins next year, he's going to come up against a federal government that's ready to push back at every level. If you want to do something radical or revolutionary, the last thing you do is broadcast your intents in advance. Fortunately both Trump and allied groups like the Heritage Foundation are more interested in publicity and fundraising then in successful strategy",18,2023-11-23 16:00:09 kah9ort,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Are you fucking serious? Trump would be encouraging Israel to use nukes....,18,2023-11-23 20:01:34 kaghp6c,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","As we saw the first time he was president, they do.",18,2023-11-23 16:55:10 kahwxxe,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","For all his faults, I will give him this... Trump exposed a lot of the weak points in how our government is run. Turns out a lot of things were entirely dependent upon the honor system. All it took to undermine the whole thing was an entire political party looking at the laws and our Constitution and just saying, ""Nah, we're not going to do that.""",17,2023-11-23 22:51:53 kaheiuk,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","As an Ohioan, I don't think there's a chance, but I'm still hoping there is.",17,2023-11-23 20:35:34 kahey0i,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",We’re on it.,17,2023-11-23 20:38:31 kagq9s5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Bush Sr, the criminal head of the CIA when it was funding death squads throughout Central America? That Bush, Sr?",17,2023-11-23 17:51:41 kainu1k,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Dont forget he saluted a north korean general,16,2023-11-24 02:34:22 kagul8a,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Let’s hope they feel motivated. When young people vote, things are a lot better; but they usually don’t care enough",16,2023-11-23 18:19:37 kah3mqg,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","As if the United States could really stop Israel from doing whatever TF they want regardless. Yeah we can pull money out…. Pull the carriers out…. But what happens then? The hard right wing in charge of Israel right now would continue to charge into Gaza (probably even more violently than they are now) and we’d end up with regional conflict or worse. I am really getting tired of this idea that our president is the end all be all of power in the world. It’s not that I don’t respect the office… or Biden, I love the guy. Will vote for him. But he’s a goalie. He’s a motivational speaker who controls a military that is and should be used only as a deterrent. These Israelis in power right now have wanted to do exactly what they are doing right now for a while and that’s been crystal clear to anyone watching in the long term. Just thank whatever god you believe in that trump didn’t win in 20 because those carriers would still be there maybe… only we’d be running some of the air strikes on Gaza for bibi… I listened to a Palestinian guy commenting on this stuff on bbc the other day and he said something that I think is in the back of everyone’s minds…. Paraphrasing: “Want to blame someone for supporting Hamas… don’t just blame Iran etc…. Blame Netanyahu… because he has done everything except provide overt direct financial support to them for the last decade” The killing needs to stop. Ceasefire. Don’t care what religion or group or political affiliations. Ceasefire now. Biden has been pushing for this, but the reality of how things work is that he cannot overtly criticize Israel either.",16,2023-11-23 19:19:53 kag399n,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Yo dawg…,16,2023-11-23 15:17:32 kagr440,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Don’t need a saner Republican Party. We don’t need a Republican Party at all,15,2023-11-23 17:57:15 kag6b9t,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Thankstaking,15,2023-11-23 15:39:02 kahbm97,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","My husband is going to be naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in the next couple of months, so that's one more for the Dems and we live in Florida.",14,2023-11-23 20:14:58 kahwlu4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","None of the MAGA contingent have soured even slightly on Trump. Ans as far as swing voters, I met someone from Georgia a few months ago who was one of those rare voters who went Trump 2016 and Biden 2020. He told me if it’s Trump vs Biden again he’s probably going to vote for Trump this time because and I quote: “Even though I don’t like Trumps personality, at least the fact he was a successful businessman means he was better for the economy”. He also “didn’t know if the indictments against Trump were true or not” but didn’t like that they were apparently “politically motivated because Biden ordered them”. He also didn’t know Trump had been impeached more than once. This is the type of voter who is going to be determining the election next year. America is fucked.",14,2023-11-23 22:49:21 kaglek4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Its already spreading quickly on TikTok and Instagram.,14,2023-11-23 17:19:41 kag7q1p,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","The burn it all down mentality won’t work either: I agree everyone is corrupt to the core with my bloc in power and Trump is the worst, but it got us Trump in the first place and it would end this nation being unified too long term.",14,2023-11-23 15:48:41 kagkgm5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Or, in another example from Russia, no one really saw the 1993 coup coming until it happened. Russia has been a dictatorship ever since then, even though they pretend to be a democracy. Actually there are a lot of parallels between the 1993 coup and the attempted coup in 2021",14,2023-11-23 17:13:27 kagciss,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",The fact that he won once was enough for me not to want to live in the US (I moved). The country is forever tarnished. And the fact that he walks free after everything is beyond the pale.,13,2023-11-23 16:20:53 kafxjzr,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",I’m excited to see just how absurd the rhetoric/headlines are in 10 years.,13,2023-11-23 14:35:32 kag538i,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Headline: we gloriously hail the 14th year of Trump's presidency. Congratulations to the youngest, thinnest, sanest president of all time.",13,2023-11-23 15:30:34 kagk9r8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","The fever won’t break on the GOP until we start addressing the subtexts (or idk maybe not so subtextual) of MAGA when it comes to demographic change and immigration. That’s why they are acting insane so even if it’s not smth dems believe in, doing nothing and hoping the nativist mood just goes away is suicide.",13,2023-11-23 17:12:12 kah18nb,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Honestly, I'd be happy to have you",13,2023-11-23 19:03:51 kai8d7z,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Californian here. If Trump wins can we just pull a Texas and secede?,13,2023-11-24 00:24:54 kahf0pj,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Exactly. If your hierarchy of morality puts instituting your perfect society above saving people from dying... Well, we've seen how that goes throughout history.",13,2023-11-23 20:39:03 kagynod,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","In that case, I wouldn’t say the political spectrum is necessarily a loop. But if you were to bend the two ends into a loop and let the two ends overlap… That’s pretty much what we’re seeing. They don’t share the same philosophical beliefs… But their ends and means start to align more and more. Which is downright terrifying",13,2023-11-23 18:46:34 kag4bia,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Just like the long dark winter for the unvaccinated lmao,12,2023-11-23 15:25:06 kagnnwe,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],12,2023-11-23 17:34:38 kagkshj,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Only if Republicans keep making plans like Project 2025.,12,2023-11-23 17:15:39 kagqr0m,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","One bus drives off a cliff and kills everyone. The other bus does not. If you don't pick your own bus, the one driving off a cliff is favored by the system that lets everyone choose their collective bus. Pick a bus to get on or one will be chosen for you.",12,2023-11-23 17:54:49 kagd4ua,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",It’s too late to abort him.,12,2023-11-23 16:24:56 kaga4cb,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],12,2023-11-23 16:04:54 kagi2ps,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Keep voting. It’s always going to be futile if you just stay home.,12,2023-11-23 16:57:38 kah6uaj,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I burned out in late 2019 and have essentially been a recluse since. It feels awful to say, but I just don't see it getting better. I have nostalgia for the future we seem to have lost.",12,2023-11-23 19:41:58 kagrl6f,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Yeah everyone in this thread is borderline delusional.,12,2023-11-23 18:00:20 kagc1mg,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Also, if Trump wins Biden is still in the White House for 3 months before he gets inaugurated and is still able to use the powers of Presidency to fight fascism/Project 2025.",12,2023-11-23 16:17:43 kaiov6u,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",He can encourage others to vote and make a much larger difference than just voting himself. Put that anger to good use!,12,2023-11-24 02:42:49 kai0njz,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Sad to hear, but I get it. I'll vote for Joe because I will never vote Republican. I want to see a strong Democrat under the age of 50 get into office.",12,2023-11-23 23:21:21 kahd1vr,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I agree with a lot of your analysis except that I do think he should pull out Israel funding. The reason being that many Americans, including a sizable chunk of his own Democratic base, are enraged at the fact that our tax dollars are being sent to Israel to fund their war machine there. They feel that the US is complicit. I also disagree that it wouldn’t have an effect on Netanyahu decision making. As you noted Netanyahu has been propping up Hamas. He touted himself as the “security president.” October 7th was an abysmal failure of that promise. The Israeli people are rallied around the cause to defend their country but make no mistake they are very unhappy with Netanyahu. Before the war he was accused of corruption and there was a lot upset Israelis after what Netanyahu did to reform their Supreme Court to be more right wing. 1/5 of Israel’s defense is from US tax dollars. I absolutely believe if Biden pulled that funding Netanyahu would be forced rethink his calculus and Biden would earn himself some good will with voters.",12,2023-11-23 20:25:01 kah4le8,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Kids need critical thinking skills. Whatever their age. Some of that comes from growing up and life experience… but we don’t have time: it needs to be taught. It used to be taught in a much more formal way.,12,2023-11-23 19:26:31 kah8htj,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Lost by 3 million votes in 2016, lost by 7 million votes in 2020……",11,2023-11-23 19:53:14 kaghfnu,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",My hope would be if there is another January 6 type situation that with Biden in office he wouldn't hesitate to call in National Guard and others to put down the insurrection. Vs hours of terror.,11,2023-11-23 16:53:26 kagemgv,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I agree with your sentiment, and to add on I think it is important to consider that democracy is failing on many levels, not just the Presidency. The fact that we live in an age with unprecedented technology to address government transparency and accountability, yet our elected leaders are subject to neither, makes it clear there is no desire or incentive to do so. ​ Biden is the short term solution to avoid catastrophe, but long term Americans are somehow going to form a collective with enough energy and will to reform democracy for the modern age. This is before we are torn apart by the divisions produced by those in power.",11,2023-11-23 16:34:59 kagx3wu,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Unless his followers decide to throw a coup again,11,2023-11-23 18:36:15 kagcvae,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Your students sound privileged af and need a reality check. Fascism isn't even our biggest fight. You want a future where we have even a chance of mitigating disaster and healing the planet? Then you cannot let Trump win. If he wins, it's all over. And when I have to roll out of bed to fight these lunatics, I'm gonna partially blame your students for ""sitting this one out"".",11,2023-11-23 16:23:11 kagq83g,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","No, dude. It's *LITERALLY* the END OF DEMOCRACY!!1",11,2023-11-23 17:51:23 kagqoca,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Not a fan of Trump nor politics in general but these kind of fear mongering was happening when Trump was running and won in the previous election but nothing really happen. I suspect if Trump wins the next term, things will be mostly the same like 2017-2021 lol.",11,2023-11-23 17:54:19 kahqas7,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Not participating is a form of participation. Especially when these are the options we have to choose from.,11,2023-11-23 22:01:29 kage88n,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","It looks like an education is in order for people on Reddit as well as for my students. We are all to blame for what is coming out of universities these days. We have stood by as universities cut history, critical thinking, ethics, literature etc.. from all curriculums save for liberal arts degree programs. My students are Computer Science students. Not a single history course is required for a CS degree. And that is true for engineering, nano tech, and most of the hard sciences. Courses that provide people with a well rounded education, i.e. history, philosophy, ethics, civics, literature etc.. are considered ""soft"" and something that can't be monetized when a person graduates. We've all stood by (or simply didn't care enough to pay attention) when these critical disciplines were slashed from curriculums. The net result: people who can create fake photos, but have no clue how propaganda or disinformation can destroy the very fabric of their society. We should all pat ourselves on the back for standing by and letting this train wreck happen.",11,2023-11-23 16:32:20 kagrx7m,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Or his message today, wishing us traitors and fascists all a happy Thanksgiving.",11,2023-11-23 18:02:26 kag4d2a,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",...Heard you like authorizationism?,11,2023-11-23 15:25:24 kaguk9e,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],11,2023-11-23 18:19:27 kaguacs,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",He literally already tried to overturn one election. It seems likely that he would try to stay in office for life if he wins again.,10,2023-11-23 18:17:39 kagckuk,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Judge found him to be an insurrectionist. Time for the military to take its oath seriously.,10,2023-11-23 16:21:16 kagj5wu,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","All you have to do is vote. Remember the goal of the media is to emotionally touch you through fear. Their job is to make all problems your problem. They are paid by your attention. Just vote him out. That’s all that is needed. If you loose so what you are alive.",10,2023-11-23 17:04:52 kagd5ut,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Talk about a hyperbolic title.,10,2023-11-23 16:25:08 kai87to,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","They say the same shit about dems in their “polls”. I enjoy being the underdog because it makes people go out and feel the need to vote. Don’t underestimate the maga crowd. If anything, you should estimate them (office reference lol, but seriously).",10,2023-11-24 00:23:38 kagg2by,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Someone doesn’t understand the difference. Which previous election did someone refuse to peacefully transfer power and overturn the election results? If you re-elect a guy who tried every illegal means he could to stay in power, do you think he is going to give it up when he has no consequences? Of course he won’t.",10,2023-11-23 16:44:29 kagq0x5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Vote or die pretty simple",10,2023-11-23 17:50:06 kagfrz5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I have. But he has no ability to end democracy. Elections will still occur since it's the states which run those, and the president has no control over what happens at the state level.",10,2023-11-23 16:42:35 kagy955,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",The absolute newest voters in the 2024 election would've been 10-14 during Trump's term and probably not paying attention to anything political to know how wretched the Trump administration was.,10,2023-11-23 18:43:51 kagrse4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",There are other parties. A two party system is hardly better than a one party system.,10,2023-11-23 18:01:35 kagrn45,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I don't know about you, but I'll be in a pretty dark mood next Thanksgiving if I know our democracy is about to end in a couple months.",10,2023-11-23 18:00:40 kahqusv,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Civics. There does seem to be a fundamental lack of understand of how our government works. This is why Republicans have lost their minds trying to gain as much control as possible over public schools (and eliminate what they can't control). And it's not just the kids. I see adults comment here all the time thinking that the Senate is gerrymandered and not understanding why we can't just get rid of the Electoral College without first focusing on taking back control of the states.",10,2023-11-23 22:05:37 kahichy,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Why in the world is this even still a possibility after what he’s already done?,9,2023-11-23 21:02:41 kagdmj4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Anyone else kind of over the doom and gloom incessant and obsessive articles about what will happen if Trump wins 2024? We all know what’ll happen. We don’t need 30 articles a day about it. Hey guys, tomorrow is Black Friday! Might be the last Black Friday ever if Trump wins! It might also be the last Friday ever so get ready!",9,2023-11-23 16:28:16 kagvp30,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Hope so, we’re losing too many ignorant voters with this whole Israel/Palestine thing so we need to make up what we lose in that community.",9,2023-11-23 18:26:51 kagjcnh,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Biden, Kamala Harris, literally anyone over trump",9,2023-11-23 17:06:06 kagh5ho,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",">They desperately don't want Biden to run Which is an insane position. He's been a pretty good President.",9,2023-11-23 16:51:35 kagac8s,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","You should ask your students how well that strategy worked for Germany in the 20s and 30s. Let's just let a strongman take over, it's worked so well in the past... If you're their teacher/professor you should teach them the goddamn history of when fascists take power.",9,2023-11-23 16:06:21 kaghs4k,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Well sadly in Texas if you vote dem then it’s more than likely your votes will get thrown out because I mean look what happened. Ken Paxton threw out tons of dem votes.,9,2023-11-23 16:55:41 kagc4am,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I hear you.... in many ways I fault our educational system for not providing sufficient studies relative to history, critical thinking, ethics, philosophy etc.. While I do my best to fill in the blanks and ask them tough questions, I'm dancing along a thin line. I teach CompSci, not a liberal art, so using too much classroom time for such debates could be understood as me pushing an agenda. That brings on a whole new set of problems :(",9,2023-11-23 16:18:12 kagernm,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I wish I could. I teach computer science. I am dancing along the line as it is having these conversations with them in my class. Unfortunately, none of them are required to take any classes that could clue them in. Our educational system is producing people who can code until the cows come home, but they have no idea what a Shia or Sunni Muslim is or why there are issues with Israel, or what was ""so bad"" about Hitler.",9,2023-11-23 16:35:56 kahcyrz,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","President Joe Biden, at his advanced age, can still ride a bicycle. Imagine trump trying to do that.",9,2023-11-23 20:24:23 kajor53,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Their most avid supporters are who would benefit from the above the most. Drives me crazy how southern rural folk support a carpetbagger from Manhattan.,9,2023-11-24 09:08:09 kagyxdh,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","They also see the lack of immediate efficacy in voting. Voting doesn't address the *here and now*, it merely allows specific actors to act.",9,2023-11-23 18:48:23 kahinv7,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","As much as i dislike the phrase ""stay strapped or get clapped"" i think it's time the left returns to owning both means of production and defense. Assuming the vote is won by the right.",9,2023-11-23 21:04:58 kagy7uk,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","The fact that Donald Trump has a chance of being elected in 2024 tells me it's already over, folks.",8,2023-11-23 18:43:37 kah1mwg,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","I want to remind everyone that Trump didn't win in 2020 either, yet we had the massive shit-show up to and including the insurrection. 2024 will be worse, as Trump is on the wall now and needs presidency to stay out of jail. The issue isn't whether ""Trump wins"", how many votes dems or reps will be given him or Biden. It's not relevant, in the same way votes didn't matter in 2020. **The issue is that this guy is getting on the ballot in the first place.** Seems to me the US focuses on ""Biden MUST win, otherwise....."".....yet blatantly ignoring that Trump will likely do anything, and this time multiplied x9000 to get this presidency, regardless who will ""win"".",8,2023-11-23 19:06:29 kagj4n9,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","What I’ve learned is that a lot of Americans don’t care about democracy that much. Many of us barely use it, and pre-trump/Obama elections usually have pretty low turnout rates. And that’s presidential elections - at the state or local level, participation is wayyy lower. Ofc there is a lot more that goes into American democracy/way of life than just voting, like our values and civil liberties etc. But many people are either unaware of that or will happily sacrifice it if it means owning the libs, stamping out “socialism”, preventing/reversing demographic change, or indulging in conspiracy theories. So while this thanksgiving might have some special significance for those of us who have an appreciation of democracy and Americas history and way of life, I’m pretty sure we’re outnumbered by an apathetic mob of trump voters but also those who are so far on the left they hate the country for a different set of reasons.",8,2023-11-23 17:04:39 kagb1i3,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],8,2023-11-23 16:11:02 kag8n1q,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Is it really that dire? He is authoritarian but we did survive last time because our institutions are not that easily controlled. He can't end democracy in all the blue states for instance. It's still possible to resist anything he tries to do. It's not like he has any force behind his words.,8,2023-11-23 15:54:53 kag8p6p,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Little bit of fear mongering.,8,2023-11-23 15:55:17 kagncns,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","If Republicans lose in 2024, they won’t stop. I wonder how far away we are from them sending their goons to every polling place in swing states or blue states to either intimidate voters or outright commit acts of violence.",8,2023-11-23 17:32:32 kagdcxw,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Sounds like you’ve got some work to do, Professor. Since most of us aren’t in the influential position you are, do us proud and help inspire them! Remind them what happened in Germany with Hitler’s rise to power and subsequent shittery… do your college students want to be partially responsible for a modern version of that simply because they felt “too depressed” or “too apathetic” or “too useless” to vote better?",8,2023-11-23 16:26:28 kagfbr9,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Yes, it is that dire. Look up Project 2025.",8,2023-11-23 16:39:37 kagp772,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","They will never finjd another candidate with the charisma of Trump. The man is a complete moron, but you cannot deny his power to influence others.",8,2023-11-23 17:44:36 kajhlly,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Then why the fuck was he supporting the literal racist?,8,2023-11-24 07:31:43 kagcl2i,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Wait, that's how most people think a state can get away with secession? By closing its borders? Specifically, it's unguarded, mostly unmonitored, invisible borders?",8,2023-11-23 16:21:18 kai5ngw,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Oh a programmer I see,8,2023-11-24 00:02:36 kai0zjc,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","It’s the same for me, Will also vote Joe. Mitigate damages from the MAGA as much as possible and for as long as possible.",8,2023-11-23 23:23:58 kaggilj,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",That too. But mainly I’m tired of people saying “well we’ll just secede!” without understanding ANY of the consequences or complications . An imperfect example: Brexit.,8,2023-11-23 16:47:27 kagyv27,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Trump is a want to be dictator. I still can’t fathom how he was able to convince so many people to support him. He’s a failed business man and a loser.,7,2023-11-23 18:47:57 kahe9rv,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",I'm legit scared. After Wilders and that Argentinian lunatic this last week I am not vibing with humanity's current trajectory one bit.,7,2023-11-23 20:33:46 kahm3m4,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",The idea that we are every every day bracing for the possibility he could be president again is so batshit fucking insane I do not even know how to describe it. He should be treated as actual toxic waste in human form but may somehow be the most powerful man in the world in a year. Humans should not be the top of the food chain and this shows why.,7,2023-11-23 21:30:14 kagbjj3,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",Everyone knows if he loses he's gonna make a call to arms with his supporters and get people killed.,7,2023-11-23 16:14:22 kagf8h3,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","When was the last election that wasn't ""the most important election of your life?""",7,2023-11-23 16:39:00 kagh2f0,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",This is so cringey,7,2023-11-23 16:51:02 kahiawy,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","For real. We can’t let him win. Everyone needs to vote!",7,2023-11-23 21:02:21 kagxort,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",We heard this last time lmao,7,2023-11-23 18:40:06 kagp9bk,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","This. People focus on Trump too much and ignore the state of the Republican party base as a whole now. Biden will probably win in 2024 and trump has gotten weaker. He doesn't nearly have what it takes to make Biden a one term president- especially when he has lost some of his base to Ron desantis. However, a Republican will inevitably be in the white House in 2028 (or at the most in 2032). The instances of a party staying in the white house for longer than 8-12 years have been relatively rare. With the rising crop of lunatics in the party, that's when things can go really bad.",7,2023-11-23 17:45:00 kagg2aq,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",[deleted],7,2023-11-23 16:44:28 kaggmzt,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""",He’ll be long dead before 14 years is up. The best medicine in the world can’t fight his morbid obesity and obsession with McDonald’s,7,2023-11-23 16:48:14 kahwdf5,1822gml,"Democracy's last Thanksgiving: Experts imagine America in a year if Trump wins the 2024 election | ""If Trump wins in 2024, it'll be a dark Thanksgiving indeed""","Friendly reminder to folks who don't know [vote.org](http://vote.org)!! Make sure you're registered and your done miss any primaries or local stuff",7,2023-11-23 22:47:32