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Assalamualaikum and welcome back again to English
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poetry at the Islamic University of Gaza,
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Palestine. We are still talking about the sonnet.
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We'll be talking about the sonnet in every major
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poetry movement. Last time we discussed Shall I
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Compare Thee to A Summer's Day, Sonnet 18. We
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discussed the form, the content, the theme, the
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features, and many other things. Today we'll
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basically examine sonnet number 130 or as
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sometimes it's known as my mistress eyes. But
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before I go back, I go to this sonnet, I'll go
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back again to sonnet 18 and examine issues or
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repeat issues you mentioned and I mentioned last
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time, so we highlight them. Remember we said
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Shakespeare's sonnets are three quatrains and one
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couplet. Sometimes in a sonnet we have three
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quatrains developing the same thing, the same
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image in other words, in different ways, and then
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we have the turn or the volta or the twist at the
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very end. However, some sonnets actually do
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quatrain one and quatrain two highlight the issue
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or the crisis or the complication, and then the
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third quadrant twists the argument like we have
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here, and shall I compare thee to a summer's day,
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because this third stands at the quadrant, but thy
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eternal. So everything dies, everything declines.
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but thy eternal beauty does not, not because of
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something special in you, not because you're
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different, because I make you different, because
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Shakespeare's poetry makes you different. Reading
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this text, we could stop at different things, like
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the word temperate. Now, dictionary gives you two
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pronunciations, temperate, two syllables, or
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temperate, three syllables. And because this
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rhymes with date, the long A, trefthong, A, it
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doesn't work 100% the rhyme scheme. There's a
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bunch of possibilities here. Number one, maybe
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during the time of Shakespeare, it was pronounced
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temperate. That's one. Or number two, some people
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say, for a poetic license, just to make it more
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musical, go for temperate. Something I don't like.
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Now if this remains temperate, it means this is an
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imperfect rhyme. And still, if you go for two
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syllables temperate, it makes nine syllables.
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Again, creating double trouble here. And in my
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opinion, this is always with Shakespeare, this is
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always connected with the meaning. So he's saying,
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they were more lovely and more temperate, but the
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line in which he claims and states that she is
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more temperate, she's perfect, It's imperfect in
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two things. And the perfection can only be
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achieved if she loves him back. Assuming that this
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is addressed to a woman because many people take
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it for granted as Shakespeare's 126 sonnets are
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for a man. I don't care about this. I read this as
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a love poem. Okay, so this is number one Number
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two, I always like to stop at the and the at the
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end The two these we have here The object
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pronounced for the addressee The beloved, sort of
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When we did the meter, we said shall I compare the
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And this is unstressed syllable, weak syllable
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Insignificant compared to the stressed syllable
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However, when you go this, when you go here, so
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long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
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Started, unstressed, weak, insignificant,
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unimportant, short, and ended, because when you
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say a stressed syllable, it's a syllable that is
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strong, that is long basically. It's given more
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emphasis in the way we speak, and this is the
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nature of the English language. And always in an
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English poem, in poetry in general, even in Arabic
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poetry, the poem begins somewhere and it ends
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somewhere else because this is basically where the
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poet is taking us. You begin this way and then you
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end different, a little bit different, or
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sometimes dramatically different. I think there's
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a connection here between the woman, the addressee
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being unstressed, insignificant, and ending The
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stressed syllable being more important, more
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emphasized. Could be possibly it's just poetic,
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yeah? Could be just there for no reason. I feel
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that this is what I like to do with poetry, like
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try to connect these tiny little things in the
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form, in the rhyme scheme, in the sounds to the
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meaning. So what happened here? What changed? Why
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has the unstressed initially became stressed at
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the end. What changed in the poem? What do we have
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in the ending of the poem that we didn't have in
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the opening? Please.
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Why isn't
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she important?
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Why wasn't she important in the opening?
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Okay, so Shakespeare gives her the importance
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here. Is there any condition, any tax, anything?
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It was just for free. What happens here? Please. I
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don't know about the beginning, but in the end, I
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think he's speaking like he's sure that he will
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give her life forever. He will make her live
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forever. There's confidence here, the way
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Shakespeare speaks. He is confident, definitely.
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And so is he in the opening. He is also confident.
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I think that the confidence of the poet does not
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change. Something else changes. Please. At first,
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she wasn't with him. But in the end, he's asking
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her to be with him. And this, I think, will make
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her more powerful and more Okay, eternal. I think
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this is in many ways true. Here he's still, he's
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trying to convince her to win her heart. She is
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not with him. And again, even like I was reading
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something the other night about the
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misunderstanding people usually have when they say
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this poem was written for a man. It doesn't
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necessarily mean Shakespeare wrote it for a man.
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It could be The fact that he wrote it for a man to
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send for a woman. Still, you know, the addressee
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is basically a woman. Because again, when you had
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a patron at that time, the patron will give you
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protection, political, social protection, and you
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know, and also sometimes will give you money.
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Why? Just to write poems. Please write me a poem
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here, write me a poem there, I want a poem here, I
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want to send a poem to this or that. So even if
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you take it for granted that the first 126 sonnets
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were written for a man, possible, that some of
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them were written for a man to be sent to a woman.
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Okay, the other thing is, again, this but. The
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twist here, the volta, it's called. Sometimes we
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have it, usually we have it here, but sometimes we
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have it in a couplet. So the sonnet here goes for
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eight lines saying that everything dies, every
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fear from fearsome time declines. Beauty is
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transient. It doesn't last forever. Everybody
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dies. Even the most beautiful time of the year is
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short. It's too hot. Sometimes nature is cruel,
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destructive. But there is hope. There is a way out
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of this. And I also like to comment on the use of
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when. It could have been, by the way, by chance or
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nature's changing course on trend, when in eternal
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lines to time thou grossed, thy eternal something
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something. But Shakespeare delays this, the
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condition, which is beautiful. from an
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argumentative point of view. The logic of the poem
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is really beautiful. It's again deliberately
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calculated.
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So the but here creates a twist. When you are
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about to lose hope, if everybody is going to die,
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if every beautiful thing just declines, what the
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hell are we doing here? There's a way. I can make
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you eternal. I can make you immortal. You can
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live, not only live in my poetry, you can also
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grow. Like now, everybody, we're here in Gaza,
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we're talking about this Shakespearean sonnet
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about the addressee. The when could have been an
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F. And when is more, this is confidence again.
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More certain, there's certainty here. And again
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answering the question whether Shakespeare knew
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that he was great, he was writing great poetry,
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that he was destined for greatness. Definitely he
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had a feeling that he would be a cool guy in the
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future to be loved by every single student around
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the world. Okay, the other thing before I go to
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the meter, the other thing is the fact that
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Shakespeare personifies death. Again, there's this
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thing about Shakespeare being obsessed with death
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You'll find it everywhere in his works, in his
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plays And
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many people try to connect between Shakespeare and
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Hamlet and examine how death, the undiscovered
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land from whose burn no traveller returns
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Now clearly Shakespeare, I don't want to say
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clearly, some people believe that Shakespeare felt
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bad and sorry and angry and frustrated because
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he's going to die. And I think many great people
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do feel the same. Why should I die? Why do bad
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people live forever and I, the good guy with a
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good heart and good potency and good everything,
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going to die? So there's always this battle
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between Shakespeare and death. And if the
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battleground is in the sonnets, Shakespeare comes
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out the winner. So the personification of death
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here brings death down. Brings death down to us as
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a human being. Undermining the might of death. The
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strength of death. Saying death is another human
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being that even can't brag. Even bragging
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Why? Simply because in eternal lines to time thou
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grossed. The last point before I saw some of you
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raise their hands. Remember this is a thought,
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this is an iamb. Unstressed, unstressed. Almost
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the whole poem follows this iambic pentameter.
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Except maybe here, and here, and here, and here.
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Creating something called in poetry, a spondee.
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Spondee. Look at how tough the word is. Spondee.
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Because a spondee is a foot with two stressed
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syllables.
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Rough winds do shake. Lives this, gives life.
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And again, we said something about the meter last
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time. We could differ or disagree and it would be
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okay, fine. I remember, what's her name, your
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friend here? She said, Rahaf, is it Rahaf? Yeah,
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Rahaf said something about lives being unstressed
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and this being stressed. Yeah, I can take that. I
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can understand this. Some people might say no
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lives this both are stressed that is possible So
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there could be some disagreement, but you need to
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change the way you read the poem So if you say
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shall I compare thee to a summer's day? That's
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shall I shall I unstressed unstressed? But usually
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people would say shall I compare thee to a
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summer's day giving emphasis for the pronoun I
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Basically rough winds Do shake a spondee Again,
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without even explaining this, when you say both
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syllables are stressed, it gives more emphasis,
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makes it tough, gives it a higher voice, rough
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winds. But if you, in your answers, in your exams,
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if you just say the spondy here is for emphasis,
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to emphasize something, that's not The perfect
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answer, because everything is there for emphasis.
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What does he emphasize? So you need to see what
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the poet is saying. He's saying that winds,
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storms, nature destroys beauty. And to say this,
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number one, I commented on the rough winds, rough
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winds, the sound that rough creates, the sound
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like a storm. And this term is not only with a F,
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it's also destructive, it destroys. So rough winds
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here, there is an emphasis on the fact that nature
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is destructive. That nature destroys beauty.
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The same with do shake. Some might say, no, I
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don't want to stress do. Okay, it's an I am. So
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rough winds do shake or rough winds do shake, do
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shake or do shake. The same thing happens in the
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end. Lives this. I like again Rahaf's suggestion
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that lives might not be stressed, but this might,
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giving more emphasis to this Shakespeare's poetry
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over life, because yes, Shakespeare's life, poetry
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outlives life. He died, she died, everybody died,
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but he still lives forever and ever. Not only
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living, but also growing. Okay, anything you want
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to say about Sonnet 18, please. Yeah. It was about
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when you mentioned who Shakespeare wrote the song
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for. The thing that always confuses me is why do
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they always consider that the speaker is
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Shakespeare himself? Yeah, you're right. It could
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be a woman speaking to a man. You're right.
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You're completely right. The persona is not
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necessarily the poet. The persona could be a
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fictional person and this is true here, true in
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fiction and short stories and in novels.
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I think at that time it was taken for granted that
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the speaker is basically a man. Because it was
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taken for granted that only men could write poetry
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at that time. But yeah, good point. Thank you very
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much. beautiful overall, but I took it from a
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feminist perspective. First one, he said, shall I
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convert thee? So he's politely suggesting or
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taking her permission. And then in line 12, when
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he says in eternal lines, after he owns her and he
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gets what he wants, he's, when eternalized to the
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time that grows, he's saying that he's like giving
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her a favor, that he's eternalizing her in his
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poetry. But I think that she doesn't need him.
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It's not like he's dealing with a woman that's
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like his proper priority. I'm not sure, okay. And
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that he owns her. Okay, you are mine. I had a
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chance. Either I want to internalize you or I
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don't. So it's not that he likes the woman as a
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woman. He likes her because he can control her. He
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can use her to show how good he is. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, there's this. But again, also, I don't want
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to assume that he won her heart here. This is all
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still an assumption. Because where is the woman?
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Thank you for raising this point. Where is the
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woman in the text? She's not there. She's not
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responding to him. She's not saying, okay, maybe
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she said, okay, I'll think about it. Give me just
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three, four, 10 years. I don't think there is any
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indication in the poem that she's saying okay,
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okay, okay. So yeah, you can read this as a
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feminist and say that this is not good, this is
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anti-feminist. Okay, we have something, a parody,
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Noha.
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Please write parodies. Parodies are fun. Let's see
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how things go. You asked where is the woman in
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Shakespeare's sonnet and here I am going to talk
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to you about the woman. So here I wrote it from a
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feminist point of view. I didn't really like the
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fact that Shakespeare is trying, is boasting,
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let's not say Shakespeare, the persona is like
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keeps boasting about how he's going to immortalize
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her in his poetry, I don't really like this, and
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also how he only loves her because she's fair. Can
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you speak up? Okay, okay, so basically here I'm a
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strong independent woman. Shall I compare thee to
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a boasting bear, though art more desperate and
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more voracious? Bold men describe a lady as fair,
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and imprison her in lines as if gracious.
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Sometimes too reckless, the evolved ape behaves,
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and often is his mind detached from the brain. And
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every fair confronting fair sometimes caves by
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chance or an human that is sane. But thy eternal
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vanity shall not be destroyed except by the morals
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a fair lady owest, nor shall thou braggart's soul
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be void unless it more dominance showest. So long
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as women can breathe or eyes can see, so long
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lives I, and I gives life to thee. Okay, nice.
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Thank you very much. That's a really, really good
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parody.
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Okay, let's move very quickly to this poem. Just
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again, Shakespeare making the same point in
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different ways, and this is interesting about
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Shakespeare. Since brass nor stone nor earth nor
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bound this sea, but sad mortality being an issue
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that Shakespeare struggles with, oversways their
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power, et cetera. The point I want to make in this
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sonnet is just a couplet. Look at the couplet here
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at the end. It's similar to Sonnet 18. So long as
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men can breathe, our eyes can see, so long lives
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this and this gives life to thee. Here he says, oh
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none, nothing is going to live forever unless
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going for the condition, you will live if, when,
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unless this miracle have might that in black ink,
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what's black ink? My poetry, this, my eternal
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lines. That in black ink my love may still shine
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bright. You could, I'm not sure if you're
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interested in doing research on poetry. You could
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do research on Shakespeare's couplets. See how,
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what they say. And if they say the same thing,
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different ways. Another sonnet I like by
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Shakespeare is Sonnet 73, I guess.
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Again, we're not going to study it in detail, just
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I want to make a couple of points Number one, we
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have the quatrain here Quatrain two and quatrain
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three and then a couple Look at how each one
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begins That time of year thou mayst in me behold
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What's mayst? May, that's why some versions of the
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sonnet will usually drop the st for thou but they
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will keep the thee and thou and that th. In me
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behold, what's behold? See, that's a poetic word,
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it's a beautiful word. Behold, when yellow leaves
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or none of you do hang. I don't know why, but I
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have never written a more beautiful line than this
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one in the description. When yellow leaves or none
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of you do hang, you know in early leaves, what
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time of year is this? Autumn. That's autumn. So
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he's describing autumn and autumn is the end of
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the year. Upon those boughs which shake against
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cold. And I like the use of shake, shake, shake,
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every time it shakes. That's half his name. Upon
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those boughs which shake against the cold. And
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look at how It's not cold yet here in Gaza, but
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look at this personification, personifying the
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boughs, the branches as very old people shaking
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because of the cold. Look at this image.
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Fascinating. Beautiful. Sad, but beautiful. It's
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not people shaking here. It's so cold that even
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the branches are Shaking against the cold. With
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shake against the cold, bare ruined choirs were
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laid, the sweet birds sang. Look at the sad. This
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musical here. But it's no longer there, the
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singing. Sang. It's in the past. They no longer
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sing. And look at the tough beginning here of the
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line, like the spondio, just bare ruined choirs
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were laid, the sweet Birds sang. So the ending of
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the year, autumn, fall. And now the second stanza,
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quatrain, goes for, in me again, thou sees the
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twilight of such a day. And twilight is? Twilight
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is what time of the day is it? Basically? The
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ending of the day. The twilight is the ending of
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the day. In me thou ceased the twilight of such
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day as after sunset fades in the west, which by
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and by black night does take away death's second
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self. And again, many people criticized
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Shakespeare for saying the obvious in in many
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unobvious ways. You know, sometimes you make fun
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of people who say Mr. Obvious. Shakespeare is Mr.
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Unobvious all the time. He just keeps, he doesn't
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like shortcuts. What's death's second self? Sleep.
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Sleeping, yeah. Why don't you say sleep
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Shakespeare? Oh, other people, ordinary people say
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sleep. I don't. Death's second self that seals up
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all unrest. Look at the beautiful euphemistic
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terms here. Rest could be a pun. Let's take a rest
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and rest in peace. Rest in peace. So this is the
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ending of the day. And then in me again, thou
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ceased the glowing of such fire. that on the ashes
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of his youth does lie ashes is the ending of of
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the fire the ending of the year the ending of the
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day the ending of the fire probably here
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symbolizing passion and love possible
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yeah End of life, possible, yeah, yeah. That on
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the ashes of his youth does lie as the deathbed
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wherein it must expire, consumed with that which
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it was nourished by. How the fire eats itself. And
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again, we're all going to die. Everything is going
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to die. become the beautiful couplet here. This
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thou perceives which makes thy love more strong. I
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know grammar was not totally standard, even the
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spelling with Shakespeare. You will be surprised
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if you see the original sonnet, how it was written
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during the time of Shakespeare. You will recognize
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some of the words, but not most of them. Like some
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of them will be not recognized in the letters. The
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spelling was horrible. But don't take this as an
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excuse, telling me in the exam that you're writing
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like Shakespeare. So this could be stronger,
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right? Grammatically now you say, we better say
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stronger, not more strong. I love more strong. So
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because everybody, everything dies, I think we
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should love each other more strong. Love has to be
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stronger. And that's again twisting the argument,
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turning it upside down. To love that well which
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thou must live year long. Year is, what's year? In
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Shakespeare? Before.
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Before. Basically this is one syllable, this is
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two. You'll find words like in, yeah? Even. Even
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even two syllables in one syllable or also or Or
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instead of over oft instead of often okay Now
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let's move to sonnet 130 and we'll study this in
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detail Somebody please read
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Somebody? Okay. Wondering? Speak up. My mistress
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eyes are nothing like the sun. Coral is far more
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red than here there's sweat. If snow be white,
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wine and milk taste all done. If rays be wires,
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Likewise, grow on her head. I have seen roses in
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Damascus, red and white, but no such roses see eye
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in her cheeks, and in some reviews it is very more
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delightful than in the friend that from my
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mistress reads. I love to hear her speak, yet what
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I know, that music has a far more pleasing sound.
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I cried, I never saw a goddess go. My mistress,
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when she walks, freaks on the ground. And yet, by
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heaven, I think my love is there, as any sheep
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lied with foals compared. Okay, nice reading. One
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more please. My mistress' eyes are nothing like
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the sun. Coral is far more red than her lips' red.
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If no bee-wire, then her breasts are done. If
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hairs be wires, black wires grow on her hair. I
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have seen roses their mouth red and white, but not
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such roses see eye in her cheeks. And in some
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perfumes is there more delight than in the breath
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that from my mistress reads. I love to hear her
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speak, yet what I know, that music have a far more
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pleasing sound. I never saw a goddess go. My
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mistress, when she walks, trees on the ground. And
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yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare as any she
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believed with false compares. One more, please. My
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mistress eyes are nothing like sun. Curl is far
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more red than her lips red. If snow be white, why
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then hair braids are done? If hairs be wires,
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black wires grow on her head. I have seen roses
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damasked, red and white, but no such roses see I
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in her cheeks.
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And in some perfumes
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is there more delight than in the bread that from
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my mistress reads. I love to hear her speak, yet
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well I know that music has a far more pleasing
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sound. I grant I never saw a goddess glow. My
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mistress, when she walks, treats on the ground.
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And yet, by heaven, I think my love are here. As
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rare? As anything belied with flowers compared
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Thank you My mistress' eyes are nothing like the
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sun Coral is far more red than her lips red If
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snow be white, why then her breasts are done? If
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hers be wires, black wires grow on her head I have
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seen roses, damasked, red and white, but no such
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roses see eye in her cheeks, and in some perfumes
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is there more delight than in the breath that from
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my mistress reeks. I love to hear her speak, yet
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will I know that music hath a far more pleasing
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sound. I grant I never saw a goddess go. My
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mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground.
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And yet, by heaven, I think my love is rare, as
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any she belied with false compare. I am not sure
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how you're reacting or you reacted to this poem,
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reading it at home and listening to it on YouTube.
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It always comes, even when I teach it almost every
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year. And every time I read it, I feel this kind
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of shock, unexpected of Shakespeare. This is not a
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sonnet we read about, we hear about, the love poem
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exalting the beloved, raising hair up above all
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natural beauties, all human beauties. To come to
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this, what on earth is Shakespeare doing? What's
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different this time? What is special about this
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sunnah? Let's just talk a little bit here and
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highlight certain issues before we discuss. So my
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mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun. This
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could be the opening like shall I compare thee to
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a summer's day. So my mistress' eyes are nothing
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like the sun. Her eyes are even more beautiful.
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You know? But again, it goes against our
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expectation. Coral, you know coral, the Red Sea,
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coral is far more red than her lips red. And
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grammatically we say than hair Red lips. Some of
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you will claim that Shakespeare is doing this for
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the rhyme scheme. But again, this is Shakespeare.
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He could have said red than hair, red lips. I
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don't know. And then he said here something hips,
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you know. It would work, it would, fine, and
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Shakira will find this funny because hips don't
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lie. So the coral here, so there's basically
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something with Shakespeare, some kind of changing
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the word order of the natural grammar. And again,
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this is why some, I hope that after reading these
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two sentences, you will come closer to
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Shakespeare. I know you're also doing Elizabethan
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drama, you come closer to understanding more and
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more of Shakespeare. He does this, he plays with
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the syntax. Not only again, don't please just say
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for emphasis, don't just please say for the rhyme
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scheme because Shakespeare can make anything
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rhyme. For God's sake, the man coined and made up
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like 2000 words. He can do something here. So
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coral is far more red than her lips red. Her lips
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are not that red, especially compared to coral. If
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snow be white, and snow is white, why then her
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breasts are done? She isn't as white as snow.
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She's not white. And again, whiteness associated
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with, classically, with beauty. She's brownish,
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seemingly. If hairs, and I find this very funny,
519
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if hairs be wires, if hairs are wires, then black
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wires grow on her head. And I don't know how you
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would react. I usually test little girls with
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this, and I tell her, like, shaarek manfoush, or
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shaarek silly jelly, or something like this. And
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even little girls wouldn't take this. They would
525
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find this offensive and insulting.
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Black wires grow on her head. I have seen roses
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damasked, red and white. There are no such roses.
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You know, beautiful person, a beautiful woman, you
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just liken her cheeks to white roses, pink roses,
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red roses. But here he's saying, but no such
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roses, CI in her cheeks. And again, I think there
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is here a pattern. Shakespeare is creating a
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pattern. He's not on like this, you know,
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diverting, subverting our expectations. He's also
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CI, IC, lips red. Changing the orders of things in
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her cheeks. And in some perfumes is there more
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delight than in the breath that from my mistress
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reeks. This could mean she stinks, but it just
539
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could mean she has a natural human breath. Not
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necessarily somebody who has eaten a huge chunk of
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an onion. But reeks is also not a compliment. You
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stink. But again, I don't want to take reek as
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just meaning stink. Although it could be. I love
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to hear her speak, yet will I know. And I think
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here, will I know is grammatically okay. But the
546
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more natural word order would be, I know well. So
547
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is there a pattern of changing things? That music
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has a far more pleasing sound. I grant I never saw
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a goddess go. Like beautiful women, you know,
550
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described usually as goddesses, as angels that
551
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don't walk, don't touch the ground. They just
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float, they glow, they glide. I never saw a
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goddess go. My mistress, when she walks, however,
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when she walks, she trails upon the ground. She's
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like any other human being. She walks on the
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ground. And again, so far, this is interesting.
557
00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:11,230
It's just one unit highlighting
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the imperfections, the flaws, so to speak.
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Although I don't agree that there should be fixed
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standards of beauty or what makes beauty. And then
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yet, by heaven, by God, wa rabbi al-sama, he's
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swearing here. And again, I said this in another
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00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:33,000
class, and one student said that Shakespeare was a
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religious man. He was, I don't think Shakespeare
565
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was a religious man. I think that Shakespeare was
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not only that, but he was deliberately and
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consciously distancing himself from religion and
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from, I understand that God is one syllable in
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heaven too. But you'll be surprised, you will of
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00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,100
course necessarily find influences of the Bible,
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of Christianity in Shakespeare, but you will be
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amazed at how sometimes you feel that
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Shakespeare's consciously trying to distance
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himself and detach himself from Christianity. Look
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at his stories, for example. None of his plays is
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based on a biblical story, right? And yet, by
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heaven, I think my love as rare as any sheep
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allied with false compare. It's like, I want you
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to do this. you know experiment like go to your
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friend one any of your friends and tell her for
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example like I know you you you're not punctual
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you're a liar you're lazy you're a huge eater you
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don't like pizza you're like and count like 30
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things and then but I like you that's devastating
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like that you're all the horrible things in the
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world
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Imperfections, okay everybody is imperfect but if
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you're talking to me like why are you just digging
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you know excavating even for things that people
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don't know and we see this all the time like in
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comic shows like how people try to compliment
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somebody that he's like okay say that he's not
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punctual sometimes he's late he likes pizza like
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too much but he's a really good something. But if
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you count like a hundred flows, you're making me
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unacceptable in any situation. So I'll ask you a
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couple of questions. Number one, what do you think
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of the tone? Do you take this as a serious poem?
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And how would you react to this as a woman? Or how
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would you react to this as a woman? And then the
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second question, do you think that the tone is
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serious or comic or light? Is this a lighthearted,
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you know?
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00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:53,590
Please. Well, first of all, when I first read it,
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I was really shocked. I didn't really understand
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the concept, the whole concept of it. And then I
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realized that he's actually like maybe describing
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a very ordinary lady. Like I think that if I could
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draw this person or this lady, I would, I would
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see her as a normal person. Not stick drawing, of
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course. Okay, it's my thing too by the way. So the
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thing is that he's really describing an ordinary
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lady, but it's somehow offensive. Like you're
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writing poetry and poetry or sonnets are supposed
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to be about love and appreciation. So why are you
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doing this? So I think this is why I wouldn't take
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it for, I wouldn't take it as a real poem. I would
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take more of a, maybe like a parody or something
619
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as comic. So this is a comic poem more than a
620
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serious poem. Like, well, I come back to the point
621
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here. I think we have, like you're saying, I don't
622
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want to take it as a serious poem. I'll take it as
623
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a comic or a parody. We'll come back to this point
624
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:54,860
because there's a misunderstanding about what
625
00:40:54,860 --> 00:40:55,800
parody is, please.
626
00:41:16,450 --> 00:41:23,410
So unfunny? He's not, this is unfunny, okay good
627
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Listen, you know I like Shakespeare, you can trash
628
00:41:29,490 --> 00:41:33,330
him, I'm not going to judge you, so feel free. For
629
00:41:33,330 --> 00:41:35,450
me actually, I really liked him for many reasons.
630
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First one, I think Shakespeare was trying to try a
631
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new era for his poets, so he was making a… To try,
632
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sorry, a new?
633
00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:58,820
Yeah,
634
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but you say despite the shortcomings, but you
635
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,700
don't list a hundred of them. If you count a
636
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hundred of them, if you have the time to count a
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00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,760
hundred shortcomings, come on.
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In a negative way.
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00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:28,930
Okay, he could have said that. He could have said
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that you are an average person. Like Trump would
641
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:39,740
say she's a five or three or four. Please. because
642
00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:45,980
it's like they said that even of her bad like bad
643
00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:52,800
characters yeah I mean if you are if your lips are
644
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,680
not red if you are not wise if even of all this
645
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thing I love you it's like he puts her in a frame
646
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of beauty that he is like making a favor that I
647
00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:10,260
But where is the frame of beauty? There's no
648
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beauty here, like conventional. The frame of
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beauty that her lips should be very red and she
650
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:23,720
must be white and these things. I want to say that
651
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I would appreciate it more if he said more serious
652
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:34,400
things that even, for example, more important
653
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,260
things than... Like what? Can you give...
654
00:43:38,170 --> 00:43:41,270
Examples, what are more important to be praised in
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00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:46,250
a woman, in your opinion? Okay, that's an
656
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:49,030
excellent point. This is a poem highlighting,
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00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:52,390
showcasing the physical appearance of women saying
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this is what men appreciate. And at the same time
659
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ignoring altogether the fact this is a human
660
00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:00,690
being, a personality and a character, the brain,
661
00:44:00,790 --> 00:44:04,910
the intellectuality of the woman. Thank you, good
662
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:05,190
point.
663
00:44:14,010 --> 00:44:22,870
Say again. Okay. And he wrote 154.
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Okay. Yeah.
665
00:44:30,290 --> 00:44:32,030
He's tired.
666
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,800
He's tired of writing and praising, so he's
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changing. I never looked at data from this. Why
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didn't he get tired at sonnet, for example, 140 or
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50? But yeah, I take your point. By the way, some
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people might find it also, listen, some people
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believe that this order of the sonnets is not
672
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probably the right order that Shakespeare wrote
673
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them in. But that is an interesting point, like
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it's time for change. It's time for change,
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00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:08,970
please. I think we should also look at the role of
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the woman which led him to write this, because
677
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:15,070
it's maybe she was obsessed about perfection and
678
00:45:15,070 --> 00:45:17,950
he's convincing her. He's destroying her, he's
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00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:23,310
bringing her down. No, he's convincing her that he
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00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:25,770
doesn't care about these things and she's perfect.
681
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:28,770
He's perfect the way she is. She doesn't have to
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00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:31,910
be obsessed with, you know, filters and Snapchat
683
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:38,310
filters and dog filter and please. I think that
684
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:41,230
it's offensive for him. It's like he's grudging
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00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:45,830
her his love even though she is not like the
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00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:52,130
perfect woman in Poland. But what about his His
687
00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:53,050
own appearance?
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But what
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00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:03,770
I notice is that you totally agree that these are
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shortcomings. Are they?
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Somebody doesn't have fair hair, should they kill
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themselves?
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00:46:18,590 --> 00:46:20,910
Because of, yeah, the traditional standards of
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beauty at that time, white, fair hair, possibly
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red lips, white skin, et cetera, et cetera. So is
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Shakespeare trying to, again, criticize and attack
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these standards of beauty rather than trashing the
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woman? I said maybe that I would like a friend to
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00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:46,750
tell me about that they respect me despite my
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00:46:46,750 --> 00:46:52,070
shortcomings. But I wouldn't like a lover to
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00:46:52,070 --> 00:46:54,130
describe me that way, but at the same time, I
702
00:46:54,130 --> 00:46:57,890
don't find it that offensive, you know? Okay, it's
703
00:46:57,890 --> 00:47:03,770
not completely like a good poem, but it's not
704
00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:07,130
really that offensive as the girls are describing
705
00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:10,850
it. Who thinks it is offensive? Oh, that's very
706
00:47:10,850 --> 00:47:15,210
few of you who thinks it's not offensive. That's
707
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:18,670
also very few of you. So there are many neutrals
708
00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:25,450
here. Okay, please. Offensive or not? Offensive, I
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think, but I have another opinion. I think he
710
00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:31,110
loves her, but because he didn't able to reach
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00:47:31,110 --> 00:47:34,630
her, he said all these imperfections to console
712
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:39,530
himself, like not read as a coral or So is this
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00:47:39,530 --> 00:47:43,530
about him too consoling himself? Yeah, because he
714
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:45,690
loves her and he didn't ever torture her. Please.
715
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,890
Who said all these things are imperfections? None
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00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:53,350
of us has red cheeks, none of us has an eye like a
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00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:59,010
sun. He's being 100% realistic. I don't think this
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00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:04,670
is offensive. I think he's not framing her in a
719
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beauty frame or something. She's not a model,
720
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,140
she's an average woman with these things, but
721
00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:17,080
again, do you think Shakespeare is trying to be
722
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,980
realistic rather than offensive? Is he trying to
723
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be realistic?
724
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So offensive
725
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:43,840
or realistic? Okay. The imaginary fictional
726
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,520
beloved.
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00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,060
This is very blunt. This is really very blunt.
728
00:48:55,420 --> 00:48:58,760
And you don't count like ten horrible devastating
729
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,600
things. You just say one thing. Yeah, probably ten
730
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,960
sonnets, one in each. But this is too much.
731
00:49:16,090 --> 00:49:22,030
Why don't, why wouldn't people love those? Aren't
732
00:49:22,030 --> 00:49:24,510
we doing the same thing? Aren't we committing the
733
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:28,230
same horrible thing ourselves? So okay, let's
734
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:32,110
again see here, there's this possibility that this
735
00:49:32,110 --> 00:49:36,620
poem is a parody. and what is parody we'll see in
736
00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:39,820
a bit but can you just very quickly what do you
737
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:45,160
think what what's parody say again okay again
738
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:52,960
you're also highlighting the comic element parody
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is imitation an imitation of another literary text
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another genre another poet basically in a comic
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way so this could sound light and comic and funny
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or an attempt at being funny.
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Meaning we can take this as Shakespeare trying to
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criticize the way women were perceived, the way
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sonnets were written, the way women were
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represented. Perhaps Shakespeare is criticizing
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the mainstream standards of beauty at that time,
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that a woman to be appreciated, a woman has to
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have all these things. But some people might not
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like this because they also feel that Shakespeare
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himself is falling for the same thing. He's also,
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because he's indicating that, he's saying, you
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don't have these things, but I love you. He's not
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saying these are not, In a way, these are not the
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real standards of beauty and beauty is relative
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and everybody, you know, can see beauty in the
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things they love. He's not saying this. He's
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saying you don't have these standards of beauty,
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but and not only but, yet. I swear to God, by God,
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by heaven, I like you. I love you. and think you
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are rare. And there could be an implication here.
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Shakespeare doesn't highlight the character of
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this woman. But rare here, when he says like
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physically, she's not that beautiful, probably
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he's here, she's rare because of her mind and her
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personality. But it's not clearly stated here.
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Could be implied because she is rare. Her love is
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rare. As any, she belied with false compare. She
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can't be compared to false things. These things
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are false, like you said. Who has eyes like the
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sun? But again, this is positive. This is
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metaphorically speaking. Now, the point I want to
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make about this sonnet being a parody, actually
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this is why I'm We're discussing this poem,
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basically for this parody part. And don't forget
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that Shakespeare himself used some of these beauty
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standards to frame women, making this text also
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self-parody.
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So is Shakespeare mocking himself, making fun of
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himself? Wow, he must have been very confident.
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He's writing something and he's also parodying
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himself, making fun of himself. He doesn't wait
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for others to mock him. He's mocking himself. But
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also mocking what we call courtly love.
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Traditional courtly love, the way it was, the way
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women were perceived and represented in this kind
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of love. And yes, parody can be comic and funny,
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sarcastic sometimes. We'll see in John Donne how
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parody can be also a very serious genre. Extremely
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serious. Not only about the message, it's just, it
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destroys. Nowadays we see the comedy shows. Look
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at the American politics. Every night you have
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like so many comedy shows. The news is now. Comic,
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because comedy, parody, these genres, they number
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one, draw our attention to the fact that there is
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an alternative, there is a possibility of another
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reality, that this reality is not fixed, that you
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can't change it. I'm showing you in my poetry, in
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my stand-up comedy. So what Shakespeare is doing
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is basically he is shattering, he is destroying
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the mainstream standards of frames of beauty. He's
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showing women and people that there are other
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alternatives, that there are other possibilities.
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He's inviting us by subverting, by turning the
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standards of beauty upside down. giving us another
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worldview that people probably didn't think of,
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outside probably poetry maybe. So that's why I
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take this as a serious, it sounds lighthearted,
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but if you examine it from a parody point of view,
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it sounds very serious. It sounds again like
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Shakespeare himself, who is doing the same thing,
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is trying to protest, or at least, attract women's
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attention to the fact that there are other
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possibilities, that you shouldn't be taking these
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frames for granted. You can change them. And
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that's why I highlighted these things. Lips read,
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see eye, will I know, and again, how the poem came
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against our expectation. I think this subversion
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here, this change of the order, is an invitation
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that the existing order in the society, the social
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constructions of women, of beauty can be changed.
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And I also like how he used the word compare as a
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noun at the end. It should be with false
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comparison. I know compare can be used as a noun,
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but not a very common usage. I checked the Merriam
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-Webster for the etymology of the word and it
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says, and I find this very interesting, the first
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time it was used as a noun was 1589.
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Wow, that was like around the time Shakespeare was
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writing sonnets. So again, this is stretching, a
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lot of stretching, but did Shakespeare use the
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verb compare as a noun to indicate to women, to
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the audience, to readers that you can change
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things. You don't have to take things as they are.
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Here I am using verbs as nouns. Swapping the word
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order, using the noun before the adjective, and
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it's now your time to destroy again the given
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mainstream constructs of the society. Women don't
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have to be taken for granted. Women don't have to
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be taken in these frames imposed upon them by
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society and by men. This could be a lot of
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stretching. I want you to think of this in this
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slide as a parody. Shakespeare doing this stuff.
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Please.
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And again taking women for granted for like even
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if the woman doesn't have these things you'd be
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like you know he would be tricked into a
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particular thing.
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But again, what is beauty? Don't forget this. What
850
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is beauty?
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No, but I'm saying that because this is a
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significant point. Beauty, there's nothing like,
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again, like in Arabic we say, and it's the same
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here. Like every woman sees her kid as the most
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beautiful kid. Not only because he or she is the
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kid, but because beauty is relative. It's not
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fixed. The standards are not fixed. The society
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usually has, and this is what Shakespeare is
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attacking. I agree. I totally agree. When you give
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this image to other girls and women, they will
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feel themselves lesser.
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True okay, I like I like your point. Thank you
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very much more So
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usually
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we swear that means that the person is
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okay nice more please don't
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do this wow I like this yes because every woman
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it's beauty in her own it's
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a beauty haven't any
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So he wanted to tell maybe the woman he spoke
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about her felt that she is not beautiful because
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of the society. And he tried to tell her there is
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no one beautiful in this world. Okay I like your
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point here but again Shakespeare he could have
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done it a little bit differently. That's too much.
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That you're also putting this woman down. But
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again, this sarcastic, this parody aspect is what
878
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I like about the poem. Exaggerating things
879
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sometimes. Let's just move a little bit to the
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things I highlighted. So the structure of the
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sonnet, if you go back, three quadrants developing
882
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the same idea, and then the twist comes at the
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end. The rhyme scheme is perfect. A, B, A, B, C,
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D, C, D, E, F, E, F, G, G. There's no imperfection
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01:00:25,050 --> 01:00:28,910
here. The tone can be taken differently. Some of
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you might take this as a serious poem. Some of you
887
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might take this as a comic light, light poem. But
888
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:37,150
again, comedy doesn't necessarily mean it's not
889
01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:42,150
serious or there is nothing happening there. Look
890
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:44,630
at these questions. I want you to think about them
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when you go home. We'll share, we can discuss some
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01:00:49,950 --> 01:00:54,270
of them on our Facebook group. How can this be
893
01:00:54,270 --> 01:00:57,110
taken as a parody or self-parody?
894
01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:04,610
What does that tell about Shakespeare? Again, this
895
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is like he's being a social critic and also a
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literary critic. See the point? He's being a
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01:01:11,470 --> 01:01:14,610
literal critic. As if, again, he's saying that,
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01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:18,470
stop doing this in your sonnets, come on. In his
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own way. He goes back to something else. How would
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a woman feel reading this? Would a woman feel
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01:01:24,830 --> 01:01:27,110
comfortable, uncomfortable? And I like how you
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01:01:27,110 --> 01:01:30,250
give me different opinions. Again, whatever
903
01:01:30,250 --> 01:01:33,370
opinion you believe in, just go for it, support it
904
01:01:33,370 --> 01:01:35,010
with textual evidence, and you're good to go.
905
01:01:36,130 --> 01:01:37,610
Where is the woman in the text? And this is the
906
01:01:37,610 --> 01:01:40,610
point I want to go back to The huge difference
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01:01:40,610 --> 01:01:42,530
between shall I compare thee to a summer's day,
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01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:44,950
one of the major differences shall I compare thee
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01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:48,850
to a summer's day and my mistress eyes is what?
910
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:57,630
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? Say again?
911
01:02:00,410 --> 01:02:04,050
We don't have the woman here
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01:02:06,830 --> 01:02:08,850
Okay. What about this poem?
913
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What pronoun do you have here?
914
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Okay. What I feel is that sonnet 18, the woman is
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present. He's talking to her face. He's talking to
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01:02:30,170 --> 01:02:37,310
her. Shall I compare thee thou art gives life to
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thee. Yes, she is silent or silenced. Probably
918
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:45,150
Shakespeare is shushing her like I'm shushing you
919
01:02:45,150 --> 01:02:49,250
now. But she is present because he's talking to
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her. Please, any poem you read, look at the
921
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tenses, look at the pronouns. Try to locate and
922
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position the speaker and to examine who the
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01:02:57,550 --> 01:03:01,750
addressee is. In Sonnet 18, the woman is there, at
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least fictionally speaking. In sonnet 130, the
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woman is not there. She is absent and also silent
926
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or silenced. So he's using the third person
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pronoun here. She, her eyes, she, she. she's
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absent and again what does this what does this say
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01:03:22,850 --> 01:03:27,550
about the the whole sonnet like you know uh uh he
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01:03:27,550 --> 01:03:30,630
he he can't even stand in front of her and read
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01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:33,610
the poem recite the poem does he know that she's
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01:03:33,610 --> 01:03:36,890
going to i don't know punch him if they say that
933
01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:39,310
this is offensive he cares about her and he does
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01:03:39,310 --> 01:03:42,780
not want to say all these things in her face But
935
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:45,160
it's even worse if he's saying behind her back,
936
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,440
like who's he saying this to? Her mother-in-law?
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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,340
I want you to think of this, why is the woman
938
01:03:56,340 --> 01:04:04,850
absent, totally absent? Okay, nice, nice. Where is
939
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the woman in the poem? Is that enough? I want you
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to try to see how the sonnet turns at the couplet
941
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there. I'll just go through this very quickly. We
942
01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:19,530
can comment on this online. So parody, Shakespeare
943
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here is turning traditional standards of beauty on
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01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:29,670
their head. Not in, on their head. He's turning
945
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:35,430
things upside down. Inside out, trying to change
946
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,730
the social constructs. The beloved's imperfections
947
01:04:39,730 --> 01:04:43,130
here rather than her perfections are highlighted
948
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and emphasized. Idealistic love it seems, like
949
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courtly love, is being mocked.
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which again breaks new ground. If Shakespeare is
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again assuming to be a social critic and a
952
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literary critic, that is really interesting. Can
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we find more of this in Shakespeare? Because by
954
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the way, if you go to Hamlet, Shakespeare always
955
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makes fun of himself because he was always accused
956
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of having these long monologues, boring speeches,
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et cetera. In Hamlet, you'll find many times
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Shakespeare making fun of himself. as a
959
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:23,230
playwright. So this is significant to me. Breaks
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01:05:23,230 --> 01:05:25,570
new ground and allows people to reconsider the
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social constructs imposed upon them by offering a
962
01:05:29,390 --> 01:05:33,550
possibility, a new worldview. And this is parody,
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not always comic. We'll see this later on. So we
964
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go back to the sonnet, just to summarize in two
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minutes. Fourteen lines, love poem, Italy,
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Petrarca. You know I was surprised that Petrarca
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doesn't end in a vowel like almost all Italian
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words. And I assume that this man is originally, I
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don't know, an Arab because it turns out that in
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Italian he is Petrarca. So still we go back to the
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beautiful Italian vowel at the end. And Dante,
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14th century, the sunet migrated to England by,
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and it was brought by Henry Howard and Sir Thomas
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Wyatt in the 16th century. The Petrarch, the
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Petrarchan sunet, just as a reminder, has two
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parts, the octave, eight line stanzas, the sextet,
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six line stanzas, and the rhyme scheme here, we
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have the octave presenting the crisis, the
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dilemma. and assist it trying to make sense of the
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world, present a closure or a resolution. With
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Shakespeare however A sonnet rhymes differently. A
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B A B C D C D E F E F G with Shakespeare get to GG
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and you're fine. No GG, no Shakespeare.
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Shakespeare's sonnets consist of three quadrants
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and one couplet. Sometimes line nine is the volta
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or the twist and sometimes the couplet itself is
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the twist. Ten syllables, five feet each line.
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iambic pentameter like 95% of the time or 90% of
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the time. The iambic pentameter is similar to the
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conversational tone of English, some people think.
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That's why almost 80% of English poetry, this is a
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number I just made up, is iambic pentameter. The
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sonnets usually develop an idea in each of the
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three quadrants and then the rhyming couplet
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offers a closure or a resolution.
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There's so many themes in Shakespeare, and that's
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why Shakespeare not only experimented on the form
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and the rhyme scheme, he tried to expand the theme
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itself, not only pure love, the woman and how she
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behaves and how she looks. To include time,
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mortality, immortality, transience of beauty,
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lawlessness of life, destructiveness of nature,
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inevitability of death, immortality of art, and
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his poetry, which is really interesting. Going to
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the form, the sonnet's form is rigid and rigid not
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in a negative way here, like it's very strict,
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it's highly calculated, something that allows the
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poet to focus his topic or hair of course.
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Basically, the highly calculated structure brings
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order to the disorder of life, tries to control
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the uncontrollable. It says next, sometimes the
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neatness of the sonnet presents a stark contrast
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to the harsh reality. It's neat, it's order, it's
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organized, but reality is harsh and tough. So it
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presents a stark contrast to the harsh reality of
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life that does not conform to an ordered pattern.
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Honor beauty or respect genius. Life does not
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conform to order. Life does not honor beauty. Life
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does not respect genius. And that's why
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Shakespeare is trying to confront this. I should
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live forever. And he does in his poetry. The form
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requires compression of ideas in such a way where
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the topic is highly intensified. And this is
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finally what I wanted to say about the sonnet. We
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will keep going back to the sonnet. I'll stop
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here. Next class we have Christopher Marlowe's The
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Passionate Shepherd. A very interesting poem.
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We're still doing Renaissance poetry. Thank you.
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If you have questions, please stay behind.