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Good morning everyone. Welcome back to English |
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Pottery at the Islamic University of Gaza occupied |
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Palestine. |
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Today we move from the Victorian Age to the early |
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20th century pottery. |
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Much of the poetry written in this, the first 20 |
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years, 30 years of the 20th century can be |
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classified as war poetry or pre-war, post-war, et |
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cetera. We have this poem today by an English |
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-British poet, Robert Brooke. The name of the poem |
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is The Soldier. Before I talk about that, before I |
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talk about soldiers and war and dying for one's |
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country, I want to ask you this question, this |
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first question. I'll give you one minute to think |
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about it and tell me what you think, what you have |
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in mind. We're Palestinians, we've been under |
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Israeli occupation for over seven decades. In the |
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past 10 years alone, Israel has waged huge |
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onslaughts, committed many massacres, three major |
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wars against Palestinians in Gaza, killed at least |
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5,000 Palestinians, including at least 2,000 kids, |
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women and elderly. You yourselves, you were born |
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in war, raised in war, and every couple of months |
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you come under heavy Israeli bombardment. That's |
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war, that's living war, under war, being occupied |
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and oppressed. So what feelings do you have when |
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Gaza comes under Israeli aggression or under |
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Israeli war, personally? Can you tell? Think about |
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it. Like honestly, how do you have a particular |
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set of feelings? Do you feel this way? Do you have |
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conflicted feelings? What does it mean to you to |
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be living under war? Because this kind of poetry |
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is very related to our lives. |
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Yeah? |
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Take a minute, think. How did you feel two weeks |
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ago when Israel waged its latest attack? |
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How did you feel when Palestinians' |
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kids, whole families were bombarded, were killed |
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as they slept? And also how... What do you feel or |
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how do you feel usually when Palestinians respond |
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to this kind of terror? When Palestinian |
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resistance tries to deter Israeli aggression? |
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Does it make a difference? |
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Okay, I'm just giving you a moment to think. I'm |
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sure you already have so many things to say Okay |
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When when were most of you born? When? Nineteen |
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nine. So you lived through the second intifada |
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Still |
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yeah, you were born during the intifada Okay |
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Actually when we have Israeli escalation I feel |
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like I don't want to live this again because in |
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the last war in 2014 my home damaged partially and |
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I remember that night how we escaped from our home |
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Even without wearing |
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the right clothes or like that. So this is |
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personal. War is not some pie in the sky, some |
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distant experience people talk about, you read |
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about, you watch on TV and movies. It's something |
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personal. What else? Thank you. Please. Sure, I |
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feel very sorrow and sad and I search for the time |
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to put the sense for all the senseless and |
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restricted the word occupations in all |
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dictionaries. So I think this is a chance for me |
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to write more vertically to respect and erase all |
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the senseless. So there's again the feeling of |
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sadness, mainly sadness. Sadness, you're sad, |
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you're like down. |
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So you decide to do something about it? So what |
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of feelings do you experience? What kind of |
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feelings? Yes, I do feel sad for people, but I try |
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as much as possible to not do this, and this is so |
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bad. But I try to not let it affect my own spirit. |
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So you feel detached? Yes. Okay, detached. Please. |
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Maybe you, in the worst, especially you, you're |
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afraid not to avoid yourself, but your kids, your |
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friends, your dearest one, your grandma, your |
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father. So feelings of fear. So you're waiting, |
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you are waiting for |
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You're anticipating, every moment you're |
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anticipating the death of somebody you love around |
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you. The feeling that death is hovering around, |
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that at any time you can be just taken away |
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prematurely and untimely. Please. |
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So that's personal more than anything else. Does |
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it get out of this? What if you're certain, nobody |
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is certain here, anybody can die at any moment, |
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and that's what being Palestinian is in the, not |
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in the past decade, just the past seven decades. |
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So is it, if you're certain that nobody you love |
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is going to die, is that going to make a |
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difference? The sad thing for me is that |
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everything I wrote, a short story or a poem, is |
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about wars and Palestinians. So this is, again, |
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some kind of a reaction to war, but at the same |
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time, how war is dominating us. Predominantly, |
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Palestinian writings are war literature. I feel |
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unjustified, unfair. You feel second? unjustified |
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and unheard and I feel how life could be |
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disordered as Israelis are asked, are questioned |
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if they killed kids or not. And they are from the |
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first place shouldn't be here. Okay, so the |
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feelings of injustice, the feeling of being left |
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alone, being left probably to die. There is a war |
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outside and I have a war inside myself. I keep |
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questioning how people can give up their humanity. |
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Oh yeah, that's a very good feeling, yeah. So like |
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you're like, how? Why? Why would you bomb us? Why |
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would you in the first place occupy us? Why would |
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you bombard like this heavily crowded area and |
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kill people and kids and mothers and fathers as |
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they slept. Not that any other kind of bombardment |
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is justified. When you say this, we have to be |
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careful when you're saying this. It shouldn't mean |
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by any way that we justify or we understand the |
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fact that Israel also kills resistance fighters. |
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Still, this is an occupying power. Please. It |
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feels like I'm stuck in a moment of time that |
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isn't developed for me like I cancel all my plans |
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obviously and I don't know when my life will be |
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resumed I keep like scrolling down news and |
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reading news and like whenever there is a bombing |
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we just go inside the window and try to navigate |
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where this is and hope our family or friends lives |
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there and just keep checking calling them and like |
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making sure that they're fine I also like wrote a |
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story about about where the hospital was |
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threatened to be bombed and my father father was |
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there there was a bombing and we looked at it was |
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like coming from that direction coming from that |
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direction and we kept calling him but like he |
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wasn't answering and people were calling us asking |
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if we talked to him it just really been a moment |
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of This moment of futility, if you want to say |
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like meaninglessness, it's like what does it mean |
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to be alive? It's life. That's why you stop |
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everything. If you're watching a TV show, you |
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stop. If you're reading a book, you stop. If |
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you're doing like mostly, it doesn't mean you have |
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to do this, but some people might Because they |
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want to distract and detach themselves from the |
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news, from the surroundings, they could do |
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something like writing, like watching more TV, |
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binging on some TV show you've missed, or reading |
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a book or something, or at least, I don't know, |
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lying there asleep. Not listening to the news. |
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Besides feeling terrified and sad, I started |
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feeling pity to ourselves as Gazans and myself |
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personally because we have the minimum stage of |
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living. On Mars we only want to not to die and |
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this is like something taken for granted for other |
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people just to be safe. So we didn't live |
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anything, the only thing we want is just not to |
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die and this is like we haven't experienced |
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anything in life so far. So what is considered to |
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be basic human rights? the right to live in peace, |
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the right to decent human rights, not political |
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rights, although political rights are basically |
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human rights. Life here has become a privilege. |
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Life has become a luxury we cannot afford. We |
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don't afford. We're living under siege. We've been |
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besieged for over 10 years, 12 years. Actually, |
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we've been besieged over seven decades. The very |
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existence of the Israeli occupation means that we |
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are suffocating. We don't do what we want to do. |
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We don't marry the people we want to marry. We |
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don't build the house we want to build. We don't |
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get the job. We don't travel when we want. We |
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don't go to the country we want. Because there |
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will always be Israeli restrictions imposed on us, |
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controlling our every aspect. Sometimes you don't |
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eat the food you like or the fruit you like. And |
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sometimes it's not even political. And that's why |
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you keep asking these questions. And many people |
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asked these questions in their writings. Please |
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read Mourid El Barghouti's fascinating |
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autobiography, I Saw Ramallah, I Read Ramallah, in |
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another Palestinian writer, sometimes Tamim's |
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the occupation is arbitrary. Like sometimes we |
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think, and I know many people who do this, like if |
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the question, okay, there must be something that |
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made Israel bomb this particular area or this |
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particular house. But most often Israel will come |
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out and like, oops, we made a mistake. Oops, we |
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killed these 50 people by mistake. We didn't mean |
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to kill these. We didn't know that Israel knows |
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everything with technology and everything here. |
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that there could be no reason. Read this movement |
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in Israel called Breaking the Silence. They had |
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their soldiers, consisting of soldiers, Israeli |
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were part of the occupation, and horrifying |
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because he was walking suspiciously. And for more |
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what does it mean to walk suspiciously? Honestly, |
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what does it mean? Sometimes they would be |
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counting the cars, for example, okay, one car, two |
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cars, you hit the third car. Sometimes they would |
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paint job or not like something and they would |
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bomb the hell out of it just because it's ugly. |
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Yeah, let's do this. And we've seen videos leaked |
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simply killing Palestinians or getting them |
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somewhere. So why do Israelis do this occupation? |
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also it could be because they're lost. They lost |
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some things. I'm sure an Israeli soldier, because |
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you know, Messi last night won the Ballon d'Or, |
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you know, the biggest individual prize for |
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football. Maybe a Ronaldo fan, an Israeli Ronaldo |
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fan would be angry this morning and turn a |
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losing a match. Maybe they would be, somebody |
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kids, or boss. And this anger will be, you know, |
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in a way, the Palestinians would be paying for, |
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exactly like Palestinians have been paying for |
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European sins, the Holocaust, for decades and |
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decades. My question here, okay thank you very |
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much for this, I'm sorry if I'm bringing these |
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memories back, but remember it's always good to |
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write, it's always good to talk, to release But |
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again, sometimes Palestinian resistance, and |
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that's like, no matter what happens, there's |
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always those valiant Palestinian freedom fighters |
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who are the hope, not only for Palestinians, but |
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for all oppressed people around the world. |
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this kind of terror. How does that make you feel, |
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honestly? If you don't want to say it's okay, it's |
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up to you. Are you still angry? Do you want them |
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to stop? Do you feel happy? Do you feel proud? Do |
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you feel like at least there's somebody who's |
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doing something about this? We know Israel is a |
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million times more powerful than us. |
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But resistance is in the nature of things. Look at |
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the cat. What a cat does when somebody takes its |
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kitten. Or even... Right? Please. I will keep |
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feeling angry, of course, because of the feeling |
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of inequality along the war. You know, let's think |
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about it. How many Israelis have been killed |
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through the three wars? And we still, according to |
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the whole world, we are still the terrorist party, |
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and we are terrorists, and we should be killed. |
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And they don't face the fact that we are the ones |
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who are being killed, not them. And actually, they |
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have many protection systems. So we're not equal |
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at all. Even if the war is sent by us, nothing |
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happens. We're still besieged. We still can't |
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travel. We still can't speak freely. They are |
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controlling not our lives only. They are |
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controlling our death as well. Yeah, when we die. |
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OK. I can go back to my question about Palestinian |
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resistance reacting to Israeli terror. Okay, I |
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think that it's all, it depends on the group |
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you're in, but I just want to comment on something |
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that's changed. Like, it's all about the media and |
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how to promote your own case, because looking back |
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to like the last couple of days when we had |
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Gallego from work, The word went crazy on a |
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picture that they posted on a child who could not |
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celebrate his birthday properly because he was so |
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afraid because of the bomb. At the same time, we |
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have the same story, but in a very more tragical |
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way, which a girl lost her two parents on her |
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birthday. But they knew how to promote their case. |
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They knew how to publish this or how to make the |
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whole |
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Okay, thank you very much. That's a very good |
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point. Yes, please. Anyone of you, yeah. I feel |
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proud when we resist and we respond. Although, |
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like, we all deep down know that we are not as |
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strong as they are, but at least we are trying to |
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defend ourselves. And in fact, I think this is |
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shared by a lot of people because I see in social |
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media whenever we respond, other people will be |
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cheering up for the resistance. And I think, yeah, |
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I'm definitely super proud. Okay, a feeling of |
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pride, a feeling of |
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Again, some justice. There is some justice there. |
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There are people who, despite everything, who are |
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willing to do something about it. Despite the |
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inequality, despite everything else, despite the, |
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you know, we having nothing, no weapons, and |
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Israel having everything and support of the world. |
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Because of our resistance, I feel proud to have |
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this resistance. Because it's in my feeling that |
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we keep defencing our land and our people. This is |
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something. And there is something I want to |
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mention. I agree with Noha. even if there is no |
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equal between something, they have panic attack, |
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people have, |
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yeah, feeling panic attack, but here we have true |
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injures and true murders here in Gaza. So where's |
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the, there's no equal even in the injured side. |
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And according to the story, they have maybe they |
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have stronger media to marketing their Australian |
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story. That's why it makes it more obligatory on |
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you, especially you studying English, to get our |
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message out there. First of all, just at least to |
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speak. Because speaking and writing are an act of |
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resistance. Living here is an act of resistance. |
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Sometimes eating in particular is an act of |
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resistance. What I'm saying is that We need to do |
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something about it, to communicate with ourselves, |
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to reconcile with ourselves and also to get our |
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message out there to the world because this is our |
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job, right? If the people and thanks to social |
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media, some of you mentioned social media, thanks |
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to social media we have more and more people |
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around the world supporting Palestinian cause |
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because many people have started to write back to |
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show, to expose Israeli war crimes and aggression |
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against Palestinians. I'll go to the poem. I know, |
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I want you to think of this when you go home. |
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Probably you can write a poem or something about |
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it. So the soldier, Robert Brooke, if I should |
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die, think only this of me. that there's some |
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corner of a foreign field that is forever England. |
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There shall be in that rich earth a richer dust |
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concealed, a dust whom England bore shaped. Made |
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aware, gave once her flowers to love, her ways to |
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roam Her body of England's breathing English air |
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Washed by the rivers blessed by the sons of home |
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And think This heart all evil shed away A pulse in |
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the eternal mind no less Gives somewhere back the |
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thoughts by England given Her sights and sounds, |
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dreams happy as her day And laughter learnt of |
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friends and gentleness In the hearts at peace |
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under an English heaven |
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Do you think this man likes war? Is he pro-war or |
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anti-war? |
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Yeah? What do you think? Go to the poem in your |
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book, what page is it? |
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So is this man saying war is good, let's fight or |
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stop the war? It's horrible, it's grim. It's |
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tragic. |
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Before going back to this question, how many times |
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is England or is England like English mentioned |
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here? Can you count? |
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How many times do we have England English? One, |
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two, three, four, five. |
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That's a lot of England and English. England, |
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355 |
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English, England, English. What could that |
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356 |
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possibly indicate? What does it tell in the poem? |
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357 |
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Pride. |
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358 |
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Pride being English? England, English, England, |
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English. Is it mentioned in positive or negative |
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circumstances, situations, context? |
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361 |
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Where is negative? Where are the negative words? |
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362 |
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English heaven is it bad? Probably for some people |
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363 |
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even English heaven is still hell but here at |
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364 |
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least this is positive English heaven you know and |
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365 |
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I like how this is like English heaven remember |
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366 |
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this was written around 1914 English empire still |
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367 |
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people you know felt pride being English just |
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368 |
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being English merely being English |
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369 |
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Breathing English air. |
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370 |
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Washed by the rivers. How does the poet deal with |
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371 |
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England? What does he do to England in a poem? |
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372 |
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Thank you very much. Listen, if you talk about |
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373 |
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your country, your car, your ship even, or your |
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374 |
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boat, you can still personify them, your cat, your |
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375 |
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dog, your parrot, your lion pet if you have one. |
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376 |
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You can still personify this thing. So we talk |
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377 |
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Palestine is proud of her children. You could say |
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378 |
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that. But here this is an act of, an extended act |
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379 |
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of personification. He's talking about England as, |
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380 |
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as what? As a human being? What kind of human |
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381 |
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being? Particularly, in particular. |
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382 |
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Yeah? Yeah? A man? Haram aliki. |
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383 |
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Yeah? |
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384 |
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Where does the poet personify England? And? |
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385 |
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And? And? Don't repeat the things you already |
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386 |
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said, so we can see other things. |
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387 |
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Okay, |
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388 |
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so what does that indicate? It's a woman. |
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389 |
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What kind of a woman? Mother. He's personifying |
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390 |
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England. |
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391 |
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not only just as female. Female could mean just |
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392 |
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being female, physically female. You could use the |
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393 |
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term female, by the way, for animals. That's why |
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394 |
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some feminists don't like the word female. Like |
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395 |
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what female? I'm a cat? Am I a cat? So like a |
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396 |
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woman, but this is no ordinary woman. This is a |
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397 |
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mother, a grandmother. Because the fact that dust |
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398 |
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whom England bore, bores the past of Bear, we |
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399 |
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usually use the passive, born. I was born. My mom |
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400 |
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bore me. This is the physical bearing, you know, |
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401 |
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carrying, lifting. But also it could mean the fact |
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402 |
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that England here is the woman who in her belly |
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403 |
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carried this for nine months and then. And look at |
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404 |
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hair, hair, hair. Remember, I told you all the |
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405 |
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time, if there are pronouns in the text, you need |
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406 |
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to trace them to what they refer to. It's |
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407 |
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significant to understand. So there's this many |
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408 |
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repetitions of England and there are these |
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409 |
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positive references of England. England breathing |
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410 |
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England's air, right? English air. And also |
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411 |
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00:26:43,360 |
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England's heaven. And how England here? Flowers. |
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412 |
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00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:53,080 |
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Yeah. Are these negative or positive words? |
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413 |
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00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:57,310 |
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Positive. If you want to take thus, this, only |
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414 |
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00:26:57,310 --> 00:26:59,830 |
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this, if I die, I as the negative word, the poem |
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415 |
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00:26:59,830 --> 00:27:07,630 |
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is predominantly positive and celebratory |
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416 |
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00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:15,190 |
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even. There is a festive mood here. If, look at |
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417 |
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00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:18,810 |
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this if, not when, not if I die or when I die |
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418 |
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00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:22,050 |
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even, there's when I die certain, like when |
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419 |
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00:27:22,050 |
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Shakespeare said, when in my eternal lines, right? |
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420 |
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If I die, if I should die, if you should see Ali, |
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421 |
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00:27:31,630 |
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this is more polite but also If I should die, |
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422 |
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00:27:35,320 |
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probably he's distancing himself from death here. |
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423 |
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00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:41,420 |
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The poem truly begins with I. We think this is a |
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424 |
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personal poem about a personal experience like you |
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425 |
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just mentioned here. But as we go into the poem, |
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426 |
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this turns into an impersonal poem where the poet |
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427 |
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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,460 |
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is distancing himself from the act of dying. Not |
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428 |
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00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:55,240 |
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imagining it, like just imagining of something. If |
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429 |
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00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,340 |
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I should die, think only this of me. And the |
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430 |
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00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:01,100 |
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evidence here is in the fact that we don't have |
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431 |
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00:28:01,100 |
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any I or me in the rest of the poem. So because |
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432 |
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00:28:05,920 |
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he, it's all about England, it's all about |
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433 |
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00:28:08,000 |
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boasting and bragging about that there is some |
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434 |
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00:28:13,520 |
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corner of a foreign field that is forever England. |
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435 |
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00:28:19,720 |
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For how? You know, colonial mentality? Yeah. But |
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436 |
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00:28:24,240 |
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if I die somewhere, there is actually a symmetry, |
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437 |
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00:28:27,380 |
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I guess one or two for the English soldiers who |
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438 |
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00:28:30,320 |
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died during the First World War, the Great War. |
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439 |
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00:28:33,110 |
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One, not two? So there's one huge cemetery in Gaza |
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440 |
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00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:39,590 |
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for English soldiers who were killed in occupied |
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441 |
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00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:46,010 |
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Palestine. So this foreign field becomes what? |
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442 |
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00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:53,850 |
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Forever England. Because this area, this plot of |
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443 |
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00:28:53,850 --> 00:29:00,250 |
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earth contains the remains of an Englishman. Does |
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444 |
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00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,530 |
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that make him sad? Does that mean he is telling |
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445 |
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00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:06,490 |
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people, don't go to die because if you die, you're |
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446 |
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00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:07,790 |
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going to die alone, |
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447 |
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00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:15,150 |
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probably hungry, angry, sad, isolated, detached, |
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448 |
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00:29:15,790 --> 00:29:19,110 |
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or is he saying something else? That is forever |
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449 |
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00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:23,790 |
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England. There, this corner of a foreign field, |
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450 |
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00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:27,790 |
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there shall be in that rich earth, it's rich |
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451 |
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00:29:27,790 |
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because this person died there. But it's going to |
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452 |
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00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:35,370 |
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get richer because of the body again. So this |
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453 |
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00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:41,510 |
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foreign field, this foreign piece of land that |
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454 |
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00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:45,110 |
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witnessed the death of those British or English |
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455 |
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00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:50,890 |
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soldiers, it's rich. This earth is rich. What |
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456 |
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00:29:50,890 |
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makes it richer? The bodies, the remains. And |
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457 |
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00:29:57,100 |
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that's again adding to this pride here. We make a |
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458 |
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00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:02,600 |
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difference. English people, British people, they |
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459 |
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00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440 |
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make a difference. Wherever they go, they bring |
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460 |
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00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,400 |
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richness there. A richer dust concealed. Dust, |
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461 |
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00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:16,060 |
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it's the body. But because originally. Now a dust, |
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462 |
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00:30:16,400 |
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what is the dust here? What does it refer to? The |
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463 |
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00:30:19,000 |
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soldiers. Okay. Whom England bore. Shaped, made |
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464 |
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00:30:27,700 |
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aware. Look at England being the mother, being the |
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465 |
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00:30:31,040 |
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educator, being the teacher, being the school, |
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466 |
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00:30:33,600 |
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being the university. Gave her flowers to love. |
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467 |
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00:30:39,000 |
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Gave once her flowers everything your country gave |
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468 |
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00:30:42,380 |
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you. Everything you have your country gave you. |
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469 |
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00:30:45,560 |
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Also her ways to roam, to move freely when you |
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470 |
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00:30:49,160 |
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were young or a kid. Body of England's. Breathing |
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471 |
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00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,360 |
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English air Everybody is the embodiment of England |
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472 |
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00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:08,020 |
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herself or itself Breathing English air Washed |
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473 |
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00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:13,120 |
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by the rivers Blessed by the suns of home |
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474 |
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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,940 |
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Everything you have, your country gave you This is |
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475 |
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00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:22,940 |
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more or less a beautiful image in Ahmed's talking |
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476 |
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00:31:22,940 |
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about war and dying Everything you have is not |
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477 |
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00:31:26,320 |
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yours. It's your country. You don't belong to you. |
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478 |
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00:31:31,260 |
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The suns that warmed you, English suns, the air |
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479 |
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00:31:35,520 |
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you breathe, English air, the ways you roam were |
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480 |
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00:31:42,100 |
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given to you by your country. And then, and think, |
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481 |
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00:31:48,700 |
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this is again the poet, if I should die, think |
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482 |
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00:31:50,520 |
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only this of me. And think this heart all evil hid |
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483 |
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00:31:56,020 |
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away. That's where again, interesting. I'll ask |
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484 |
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00:31:59,520 |
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you this question to think of when you go home. |
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485 |
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00:32:01,600 |
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Because as Palestinians, we've been paying the |
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486 |
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00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:09,040 |
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heavy, probably some of the heaviest price due to |
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487 |
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00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:15,370 |
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English horrible, horrible powerful declaration |
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488 |
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00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:20,990 |
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that gave Palestine to Zionists, right? So this |
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489 |
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00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:23,010 |
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English heart, the English people, the English |
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490 |
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00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:27,070 |
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soldiers have no evil at all in this. Like, you |
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491 |
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00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:31,030 |
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know, a snake sheds its skin every, but this is |
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492 |
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00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:35,650 |
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like more, this is spiritual. So all the evils, |
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493 |
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00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,960 |
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have been shed away. There is no evil, more or |
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494 |
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00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,600 |
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less. Tell that to Palestinians. A pulse in the |
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495 |
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00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,400 |
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eternal mind, no less, gives somewhere back the |
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496 |
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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,360 |
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thoughts by England given. Here again, continuing |
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497 |
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00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760 |
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to personify England, this beautiful image. Here |
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498 |
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00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,900 |
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sights and sounds. Dreams happy as her day. So |
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499 |
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00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:10,470 |
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this death is Not a nightmare, it's a dream. An |
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500 |
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00:33:10,470 |
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ordinary dream, it's a happy dream. A dream of |
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501 |
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00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:16,750 |
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England probably dominating again, winning the |
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502 |
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00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:21,070 |
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war, being victorious. And also bringing happiness |
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503 |
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00:33:21,070 --> 00:33:24,010 |
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and laughter to this poem. For many it could |
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504 |
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00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:26,530 |
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sound, nobody said, when there is war, I'm |
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505 |
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00:33:26,530 |
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laughing, yeah? Probably you said, I'm proud |
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506 |
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00:33:29,390 --> 00:33:32,210 |
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because there's this Palestinian reaction to |
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507 |
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00:33:32,210 |
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resistance, right? But being happy, yes. It's war, |
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508 |
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00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:44,730 |
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yes. That's the moment I've been waiting for. And |
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509 |
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00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:49,510 |
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laughter, learnt of friends and gentleness, in |
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510 |
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00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:55,150 |
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hearts at peace. I'll be in hearts at peace, but |
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511 |
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00:33:55,150 |
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most significantly under an English heaven. That's |
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512 |
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00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:05,460 |
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a hardcore pro-war poem here. This man is saying, |
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513 |
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00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,220 |
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let's go die for our country. This man is saying, |
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514 |
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00:34:09,280 |
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we don't own ourselves. This man is saying, if the |
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515 |
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00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,480 |
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country calls, we should be in the front. And |
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516 |
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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,900 |
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indeed, this man joined the British army. He was |
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517 |
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00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:29,320 |
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in the navy. We'll see what difference that makes. |
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518 |
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00:34:29,400 |
|
He wasn't in the war itself, in the fighting, |
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519 |
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00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:34,280 |
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shooting. He was in the Navy. In the Navy, you're |
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520 |
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00:34:34,280 |
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safe somewhere, relatively safe at sea somewhere. |
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521 |
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00:34:39,580 |
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And he wrote this poem in the beginning months of |
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522 |
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00:34:43,460 |
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the Great War, 1914. So some people think that |
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523 |
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00:34:49,220 |
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because he was far away from the grim reality of |
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524 |
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00:34:51,820 |
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war, the horrible, horrible, scenes and realities |
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525 |
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00:34:55,530 |
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of the war. He was kind of romanticizing war, you |
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526 |
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00:35:00,150 |
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know, romanticizing war. Let's go, let's die for |
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527 |
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00:35:02,730 |
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our country. It is like Horace said, it is sweet |
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528 |
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00:35:06,870 |
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and proper to die for one's country. |
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529 |
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00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:17,870 |
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And I want to notice two things here. Number one, |
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530 |
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00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:22,330 |
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the traditional imagery he uses. In many ways, |
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531 |
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00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:25,770 |
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you'll find this connected to that poetry of |
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532 |
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00:35:25,770 |
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probably, I don't know, Homer or Beowulf or other |
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533 |
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00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:32,570 |
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English heroic poetry, poetry of battles and wars, |
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534 |
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00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:35,350 |
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how the fighters are heroes. They're defending |
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535 |
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00:35:35,350 |
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their honor, their country. They're paying back |
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536 |
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00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:41,790 |
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the debt. But also notice also, so there's this |
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537 |
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00:35:41,790 |
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traditional thing, traditional imagery of, you |
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538 |
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00:35:44,050 |
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know, the sun and the, you know, things from |
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539 |
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00:35:48,870 |
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England, the river, the image there, these |
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540 |
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00:35:52,270 |
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beautiful images of nature, beauty. But I like, |
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541 |
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00:35:57,050 |
|
you know, this under an English heaven could just |
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542 |
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00:36:00,610 |
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be like under heaven physically being somewhere. |
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543 |
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00:36:05,830 |
|
But heaven could also mean paradise. This could be |
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544 |
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00:36:10,910 |
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a religious image here, a religious tomb, |
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545 |
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00:36:15,190 |
|
religious language. So don't worry if you die for |
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546 |
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00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:21,590 |
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your country going straight to heaven. You are a |
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547 |
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00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:27,630 |
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martyr. You don't die any death, any ordinary |
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548 |
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00:36:27,630 |
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death. you are a hero and your country is proud of |
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549 |
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00:36:32,560 |
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you and we are going to celebrate you and indeed |
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550 |
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00:36:35,340 |
|
this poem has become a very famous it's if you go |
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551 |
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00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:41,900 |
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to youtube many people sing this poem and England |
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552 |
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00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,920 |
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has used this poem all the time to again to incite |
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553 |
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00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:52,170 |
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to incite soldiers, people to join the army to |
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554 |
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00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:56,270 |
|
fight evil terror around the world, to defend the |
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555 |
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00:36:56,270 --> 00:36:58,890 |
|
crown, to defend the queen, to defend the king. |
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556 |
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00:37:00,310 --> 00:37:04,110 |
|
And I read somewhere that this man was, he was in |
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557 |
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00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:07,490 |
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the army, but because he wrote many poems that are |
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558 |
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00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:14,150 |
|
pro-war, he was, I don't know what the term is, he |
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559 |
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00:37:14,150 |
|
was called from wherever he was and he didn't want |
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560 |
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00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:20,810 |
|
to go back. He wanted to join the army. He wanted |
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561 |
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00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:24,330 |
|
to fight. But the country wanted him back home |
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562 |
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00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,930 |
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safe and sound so he could write more poetry and |
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563 |
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00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:32,910 |
|
promote this. And again, this shows indicates how |
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564 |
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00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:37,310 |
|
significant poets and poetry are. The country |
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565 |
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00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:40,630 |
|
needs soldiers, right? But also the country needs |
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566 |
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00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:44,710 |
|
poets to tell the people that, hey, don't worry. |
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567 |
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00:37:46,030 |
|
You're going to die a hero. And that's why we're |
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568 |
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00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:52,830 |
|
going to compare this next class with a poem by |
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569 |
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00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:59,430 |
|
Wilfred Owen, a man who really was at the front, |
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570 |
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00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:01,530 |
|
who saw people die. |
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571 |
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00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:07,290 |
|
Before we finish, I want to go through these |
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572 |
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00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:11,050 |
|
questions, and I probably can talk about some of |
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573 |
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00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:17,100 |
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them in brief. So again, is this a pro or anti-war |
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574 |
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00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,180 |
|
poem? Does it call for war? Does it say war is |
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575 |
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00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:23,800 |
|
horrible? Pro war. |
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576 |
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00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,740 |
|
Unless you take this as a very very silly argument |
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577 |
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00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:33,120 |
|
and you think it does the opposite. I don't want |
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578 |
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00:38:33,120 |
|
to die just to be under English heaven. But yeah, |
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579 |
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00:38:39,800 |
|
this man is known, Robert Brooke, as a pro-war |
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580 |
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00:38:43,160 |
|
poet. What do you think of the poem as a |
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581 |
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00:38:46,600 |
|
Palestinian? What do you think of this? Because |
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582 |
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00:38:49,860 |
|
listen, this is the war that again, it happened |
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583 |
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00:38:54,540 |
|
mainly in Europe and somewhere in colonized areas, |
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584 |
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00:38:58,360 |
|
but as Palestinians, we still pay the price for |
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585 |
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00:39:00,720 |
|
this. And don't forget that, again, the English |
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586 |
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00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,260 |
|
cemetery of British soldiers, an area that |
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587 |
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00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:11,960 |
|
Palestinians have been taken good care of, |
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588 |
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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,020 |
|
respecting and protecting, which is really good. |
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589 |
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00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,800 |
|
Because these are young people who were sent, |
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590 |
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00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,000 |
|
probably some of them unwillingly to war. But as a |
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591 |
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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,980 |
|
Palestinian, what do you make of this, Paul? |
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592 |
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00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,330 |
|
Please. First of all, I believe that he actually |
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593 |
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00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:32,750 |
|
doesn't reflect at all the real meaning of war. |
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594 |
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00:39:32,910 |
|
War is savage, it's cruel, and he isn't... He even |
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595 |
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00:39:36,320 |
|
didn't mention the word word. He gave the image |
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596 |
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00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,420 |
|
and actually he gave a great image. So they can, |
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597 |
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00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,580 |
|
he can like wash the minds of the soldiers. So |
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598 |
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00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:47,740 |
|
they can. So, so you're taking this as kind of |
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599 |
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00:39:47,740 |
|
brainwashing, you know, indoctrination. The |
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600 |
|
00:39:50,480 |
|
reference to war is, is just here. The soldier, if |
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601 |
|
00:39:54,200 |
|
the title of the poet, the sonnet, this is the |
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602 |
|
00:39:55,980 |
|
sonnet by the way. Look at the sonnet. It's A B A |
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603 |
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00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,500 |
|
right? C D |
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604 |
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00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:25,170 |
|
A, B, A, B, C, D, and then aware, air, yes C, D. |
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605 |
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00:40:25,850 --> 00:40:27,770 |
|
Is that Shakespeare or Petrarch? |
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606 |
|
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:35,650 |
|
It's never Petrarch. Petrarch is A B B A A B B A. |
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607 |
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00:40:35,690 |
|
Shakespeare is A B A B C D C D. He doesn't do |
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608 |
|
00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:43,850 |
|
this. But because if you think this is one unit |
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609 |
|
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:49,570 |
|
here and an octave. Probably closer, the fact that |
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610 |
|
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:52,110 |
|
he alternates between the rhymes makes it closer |
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611 |
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00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:54,610 |
|
Shakespeare, but then the fact that this is an |
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612 |
|
00:40:54,610 --> 00:40:57,650 |
|
octave and then followed by assisted means that |
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613 |
|
00:40:57,650 --> 00:41:01,330 |
|
this is basically probably not Shakespeare, not |
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614 |
|
00:41:01,330 --> 00:41:04,910 |
|
Petrarch. A combination of both, but also at the |
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615 |
|
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:07,950 |
|
same time, he's changing the rhyme scheme. And I |
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|
616 |
|
00:41:07,950 |
|
don't think there is a twist here, there's an |
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617 |
|
00:41:09,410 |
|
argument. He doesn't argue, he doesn't say, some |
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618 |
|
00:41:11,310 |
|
people say, dying is bad, is horrible, war is bad, |
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|
619 |
|
00:41:14,910 |
|
however, It's all about how beautiful it is, how |
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|
620 |
|
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,460 |
|
sweet and proper it is to die for one's country. |
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|
621 |
|
00:41:21,180 |
|
So A, B, A, B, C, D, C, D and then? Yeah? |
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|
622 |
|
00:41:30,340 |
|
E, F, G, very strange. E, F, G. |
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623 |
|
00:41:45,240 |
|
He's using all Shakespeare's letters, right? But |
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624 |
|
00:41:49,860 |
|
there is, we don't have a couplet here. This is a |
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625 |
|
00:41:55,540 --> 00:42:02,960 |
|
system. Okay. Same question? Maybe this statue |
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626 |
|
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560 |
|
belongs to the prince. He is mixed between the war |
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627 |
|
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,140 |
|
and peace. Not talking exactly about the war. And |
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628 |
|
00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:11,540 |
|
he's raised also mixed between Shakespeare and the |
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|
629 |
|
00:42:11,540 |
|
prince. Possible. Okay, I like your thinking, |
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|
630 |
|
00:42:14,980 |
|
connecting the form to the meaning here. How is |
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|
631 |
|
00:42:18,440 |
|
England represented in the poem? |
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|
632 |
|
00:42:24,140 |
|
Here England represented as a mother and I want to |
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633 |
|
00:42:27,820 |
|
say something, there's no comparison between our |
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|
634 |
|
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:35,660 |
|
people as a Christian and their people. They don't |
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|
635 |
|
00:42:35,660 |
|
defend their country against invaders from outside |
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|
636 |
|
00:42:40,020 |
|
to their country, no. They go to their countries |
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|
637 |
|
00:42:43,120 |
|
and invade, actually they invade them. They were |
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638 |
|
00:42:46,850 |
|
invading other countries and also expanding or |
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|
639 |
|
00:42:50,950 |
|
defending the British Empire. Thank you. Actually, |
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|
640 |
|
00:42:57,180 |
|
we've tried something similar to this, because |
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|
641 |
|
00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:03,540 |
|
Palestinians, when they go and do freedom marches, |
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|
642 |
|
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,980 |
|
we call them freedom marches, because they see |
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|
643 |
|
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:10,240 |
|
their land as London flowers and everything that |
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|
644 |
|
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,880 |
|
belongs to them. But I don't think that an Israeli |
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|
645 |
|
00:43:12,880 |
|
soldier would think the same, except if he is |
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|
646 |
|
00:43:15,800 |
|
really in the same place as you mentioned. But I |
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|
647 |
|
00:43:18,300 |
|
don't think that they have That's why it's really |
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|
648 |
|
00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:25,520 |
|
always fascinating to compare, to do comparison |
|
|
|
649 |
|
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,520 |
|
studies. Palestinian poetry has always been |
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650 |
|
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,980 |
|
compared to Irish poetry because there was this |
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|
651 |
|
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:34,560 |
|
resistance thing. And if you listen to Irish |
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|
652 |
|
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120 |
|
songs, you'll be amazed how similar, sometimes |
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|
653 |
|
00:43:37,120 |
|
they think of how against Wheaton properties would |
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|
654 |
|
00:43:40,300 |
|
I for your country. Okay, I'm raising these points |
|
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|
655 |
|
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,400 |
|
now. What does under an English heaven indicate? I |
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|
656 |
|
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,140 |
|
just partly mentioned this, that England is |
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657 |
|
00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:56,020 |
|
heaven, but also that this is a religious thing, |
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|
658 |
|
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,060 |
|
that how the poet is using traditional imagery |
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|
659 |
|
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:05,900 |
|
from traditional ways of writing poetry, of |
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660 |
|
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:10,980 |
|
fighting, of heroism, the battles, the sun, the |
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661 |
|
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:15,150 |
|
heaven, the river, the happiness. But also using |
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662 |
|
00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:19,090 |
|
religious, so is it again part of how he's trying |
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|
663 |
|
00:44:19,090 |
|
to convince these soldiers to talk, to address, to |
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|
664 |
|
00:44:21,910 |
|
invoke their religious mentality here that God is |
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|
665 |
|
00:44:27,850 |
|
with you, God is with us, the English people? I |
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|
666 |
|
00:44:34,160 |
|
don't know if this is related, but maybe it can be |
|
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|
667 |
|
00:44:36,580 --> 00:44:40,420 |
|
related to the English, the white man's duty of |
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|
668 |
|
00:44:40,420 |
|
like enlightening other people in civilized |
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|
669 |
|
00:44:44,020 |
|
countries. Because as you said before, they go to |
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|
670 |
|
00:44:47,500 |
|
countries and they invade them, so maybe he wants |
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|
671 |
|
00:44:50,840 |
|
to know that this is the English habit that you |
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|
672 |
|
00:44:53,620 |
|
will be having in your country when you come and |
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|
673 |
|
00:44:57,000 |
|
invade them. So rather we are turning, okay you |
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|
674 |
|
00:44:59,660 |
|
are suggesting that this is Again, the white man's |
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|
675 |
|
00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:06,570 |
|
obligation to go and civilize other people and |
|
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|
676 |
|
00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:12,030 |
|
turn hell into heaven. on earth into heaven. |
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|
677 |
|
00:45:12,750 --> 00:45:14,490 |
|
Possibly, but I take it as more of a religious |
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|
678 |
|
00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:18,490 |
|
indication here. More of a religious term to |
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|
679 |
|
00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:24,290 |
|
convince people more that death is going to be |
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|
680 |
|
00:45:24,290 --> 00:45:28,150 |
|
followed by heaven. For me, I believe that this |
|
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|
681 |
|
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:32,690 |
|
person totally has a colonizing mental. Actually, |
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|
682 |
|
00:45:32,830 --> 00:45:35,510 |
|
look at how many times he mentioned England. He |
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|
683 |
|
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:38,330 |
|
was promising that England is going to dominate |
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|
684 |
|
00:45:38,330 --> 00:45:45,770 |
|
the universe. I don't think there is an indication |
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|
685 |
|
00:45:45,770 |
|
that England will dominate, but possibly the fact |
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|
686 |
|
00:45:48,170 |
|
that he keeps repeating, becoming England, okay. |
|
|
|
687 |
|
00:45:53,290 |
|
So wherever we go, whatever we touch, everything, |
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|
688 |
|
00:45:59,670 |
|
there's this book, Everything Trump Touches Dies, |
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|
689 |
|
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:06,450 |
|
and there is this Greek mythology, what's his |
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|
690 |
|
00:46:06,450 |
|
name, The Guy, Everything he touches turns into |
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|
|
691 |
|
00:46:11,280 |
|
gold. That's very famous in English, in mythology. |
|
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|
692 |
|
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:17,720 |
|
Who's Greek corner here doing? Who's doing Greek |
|
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|
693 |
|
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,620 |
|
corner? What's the name of the guy that touches |
|
|
|
694 |
|
00:46:20,620 |
|
the, whatever he touches turns into gold? Nope. |
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|
695 |
|
00:46:27,540 |
|
Medias, something like this. Like closer to |
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|
696 |
|
00:46:30,940 |
|
Mediosa. |
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|
697 |
|
00:46:36,910 |
|
Okay, so everything English, everything England |
|
|
|
698 |
|
00:46:41,610 |
|
touches turns English, typical. Now, Brooks' poem, |
|
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|
699 |
|
00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:52,910 |
|
The Soldier, is an example of dangers, of the |
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|
|
700 |
|
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:56,150 |
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dangers of romanticizing war, telling the young |
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701 |
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00:46:56,150 --> 00:47:00,650 |
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people war is fun, it's just go kill people, you |
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702 |
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00:47:00,650 |
|
know? by comforting the survivors, telling the |
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703 |
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00:47:06,470 |
|
mothers, the parents, and this is probably a poem |
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704 |
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00:47:08,630 |
|
written not for the soldiers, about the soldiers, |
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705 |
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00:47:11,010 |
|
for the parents just to comfort them, to tell them |
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706 |
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00:47:14,850 |
|
that your kids are in heaven. And that's probably |
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707 |
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00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:20,890 |
|
why he's bringing heaven here as a religious term, |
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708 |
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00:47:21,010 |
|
because older people tend to be more religious. |
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709 |
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00:47:24,310 |
|
They seek solace, they seek peace in the fact that |
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710 |
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00:47:27,370 |
|
at least the kids died a happy death, died doing |
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711 |
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00:47:32,210 |
|
something they wanted to do and also defending |
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712 |
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00:47:34,570 |
|
their country and also died happy and laughing. |
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713 |
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00:47:38,250 |
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And that's |
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714 |
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00:47:41,870 --> 00:47:44,690 |
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why I can hear the reference to an English heaven. |
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715 |
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00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:49,170 |
|
And he's also accused of downplaying the grim |
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716 |
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00:47:49,170 |
|
reality of war. I'm using this as a quote. Listen, |
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717 |
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00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:54,440 |
|
look at this. If you're doing research, Look at |
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718 |
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00:47:54,440 |
|
these brackets here, square brackets. I am adding, |
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719 |
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00:47:59,500 |
|
if you're quoting something and you're adding to |
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720 |
|
00:48:01,560 |
|
the text things that don't change the meaning, |
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721 |
|
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:08,520 |
|
just sometimes even capital or small letter, by, I |
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722 |
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00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,320 |
|
added by, I added and, I added of war. So to tell |
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723 |
|
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200 |
|
the reader that this is not something that the |
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724 |
|
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,870 |
|
original author said, It's something I am adding |
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725 |
|
00:48:18,870 |
|
to make it clearer in the context I'm using. You |
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726 |
|
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:25,510 |
|
use this thing. So think about this. How is this |
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727 |
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00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:29,090 |
|
romanticizing? How is he telling people to do |
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728 |
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00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:35,030 |
|
this? Now, finally, again another quote, for a |
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729 |
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00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:38,250 |
|
nation desperate to turn the senseless loss of its |
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730 |
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00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:41,690 |
|
soldiers into something that could be coped with, |
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731 |
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00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:45,930 |
|
something you could adapt to, even celebrated. |
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732 |
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00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,080 |
|
Like he's celebrating war here. Poetry, like |
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733 |
|
00:48:51,080 |
|
Brooke's poem, became a cornerstone of the |
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734 |
|
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,430 |
|
remembrance process. how countries again use such |
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735 |
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00:49:00,430 --> 00:49:03,170 |
|
kind of literature consider like consider this |
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736 |
|
00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:07,210 |
|
poetry this literature as significant because it |
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737 |
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00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:10,890 |
|
serves the purpose they have the purpose of you |
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738 |
|
00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:14,390 |
|
know how and if you watch American movies it's |
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|
739 |
|
00:49:14,390 |
|
always there there's always this huge respect for |
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740 |
|
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:20,910 |
|
for previous soldiers for veterans they give them |
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741 |
|
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,910 |
|
discounts they respect them they give them |
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|
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742 |
|
00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:27,020 |
|
priority they like Give them loans, they, like, |
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743 |
|
00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:30,320 |
|
you just, if you are, if you turn into a soldier |
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744 |
|
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,800 |
|
in America, you're the best. Everyone is, almost |
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|
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745 |
|
00:49:32,800 |
|
everyone is going to respect you. There's the |
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|
|
746 |
|
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,720 |
|
famous poster, like, America wants you, this |
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|
|
747 |
|
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,420 |
|
thing. And we've seen how, we always see how |
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|
748 |
|
00:49:40,420 |
|
American movies and Hollywood, how they glorify |
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|
|
749 |
|
00:49:43,460 |
|
soldiers. And at the same time, how they demonize |
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750 |
|
00:49:47,200 |
|
and dehumanize the others. There's this movie, one |
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751 |
|
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,640 |
|
of the worst movies ever, The Sniper, a man who |
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|
752 |
|
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,240 |
|
killed about 150 Iraqis. |
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753 |
|
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:04,360 |
|
And how you're made still to feel sorry for this |
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|
|
754 |
|
00:50:04,360 |
|
bloodthirsty murderer. Terrorist, he should be |
|
|
|
755 |
|
00:50:08,700 |
|
called. But what is killing 150 Iraqis? Nothing. |
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|
|
756 |
|
00:50:16,120 |
|
And Trump is now pardoning war criminals, soldiers |
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|
|
757 |
|
00:50:21,600 |
|
who committed hideous crimes in Iraq and |
|
|
|
758 |
|
00:50:24,240 |
|
Afghanistan. What message is he sending to young |
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|
|
759 |
|
00:50:27,500 |
|
Americans, to soldiers? Just kill. Don't worry. |
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|
|
760 |
|
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:36,000 |
|
I'll protect you. I'm sending you there because |
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761 |
|
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400 |
|
there's this idea, like the argument, I'm sending |
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|
|
762 |
|
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,700 |
|
you there, there's a possibility that you're going |
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|
763 |
|
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:43,900 |
|
to die at any moment. You're going to die at any |
|
|
|
764 |
|
00:50:43,900 |
|
moment. |
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|
|
765 |
|
00:50:47,320 |
|
I'll have you back if you do anything, anything, |
|
|
|
766 |
|
00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:55,140 |
|
even killing hundreds of people. Even there's this |
|
|
|
767 |
|
00:50:55,140 |
|
horrible, horrible massacre in Iraq where they, |
|
|
|
768 |
|
00:50:59,460 |
|
the soldiers raped a 10-year-old. They killed her, |
|
|
|
769 |
|
00:51:01,820 |
|
killed her parents and family and brothers and |
|
|
|
770 |
|
00:51:03,760 |
|
sisters. And the man, the same soldier was like |
|
|
|
771 |
|
00:51:07,440 |
|
saying, we didn't treat Iraq, we didn't consider |
|
|
|
772 |
|
00:51:09,600 |
|
Iraqis human beings. That's demonization and |
|
|
|
773 |
|
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,400 |
|
dehumanization. War is bad, war never ends. But |
|
|
|
774 |
|
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,760 |
|
yet, some people will find it proper to celebrate, |
|
|
|
775 |
|
00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:26,040 |
|
to glorify, |
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|
776 |
|
00:51:27,220 --> 00:51:29,740 |
|
et cetera. So think about these things, and I'll |
|
|
|
777 |
|
00:51:29,740 |
|
stop here. Next class, we're doing another war |
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|
|
778 |
|
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:40,180 |
|
poem by Wilfred Owen, Futility. Thank you very |
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|
779 |
|
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:41,260 |
|
much, good luck. |
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