1 00:00:04,990 --> 00:00:08,170 Assalamualaikum and welcome back to English Poetry 2 00:00:08,170 --> 00:00:12,950 at the Islamic University of Gaza. I hope that you 3 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:16,290 all and your loved ones are safe and sound after 4 00:00:16,290 --> 00:00:22,350 yet another Israeli brutal attack on Gaza. Today, 5 00:00:22,450 --> 00:00:28,230 we continue to work on romantic poetry. We go back 6 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:32,830 to Chile. We examined one of the most fascinating 7 00:00:32,830 --> 00:00:36,390 poems of all times. That's Ozymandias. I'll go 8 00:00:36,390 --> 00:00:42,070 back to Ozymandias. We'll do something else in 9 00:00:42,070 --> 00:00:44,550 addition to examining the poem. And I'll start 10 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:49,130 with that. When we talk about poets, probably we 11 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:53,580 mentioned this early in the course. Why poets? Why 12 00:00:53,580 --> 00:00:57,440 we need poets? What is it that poets do that 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,780 others do not do? Let me ask you this question 14 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:03,060 again. Do we really need poets in our societies, 15 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:06,220 in our lives? Are they significant? Can we do 16 00:01:06,220 --> 00:01:09,580 without them? Can life be the same without poets? 17 00:01:09,940 --> 00:01:14,160 What is it that poets do to make life different or 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:21,300 special or better or bad? Can you live Like, 19 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:25,160 honestly, can you live a whole month or a whole 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,040 year without reading a poem, listening to a poem, 21 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:32,760 listening to a song, reciting a song? What is it 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,980 that we find appealing? Why? Again, here, 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,480 basically, I'm talking about other than the beauty 24 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,310 of the language The ingenious ways they employ 25 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:53,510 literal devices and sounds and the way they word 26 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:55,790 their stuff, their originality and everything. I'm 27 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:58,820 talking about ideas and thoughts. and 28 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:01,760 contributions to civilization, to society. I think 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,240 what we need from poets is that they are having 30 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,040 control over words. So in their words, they have 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,860 emotions, and they evoke the emotions of other 32 00:02:09,860 --> 00:02:12,320 people. So they can convey a strong message that 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,000 they want to the other people. And when the 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,980 people's feelings move, then it will turn out to 35 00:02:20,980 --> 00:02:23,980 be action. So it is important for people to 36 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:26,500 improve their country and to improve themselves to 37 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:30,750 reap the fruit. So okay if you're talking about 38 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,750 the ability to convey emotions and feelings in 39 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:37,270 words and then the ability to turn these words 40 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:43,690 into action. Who does this? Like who does this 41 00:02:43,690 --> 00:02:50,450 generally in life other than poets? Is it only 42 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:54,070 poets who convey, don't teachers sometimes do 43 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:57,910 this? Don't parents do this? What is it that is, 44 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:02,770 we feel special about poetry? And about poets? 45 00:03:03,470 --> 00:03:06,510 Like a taxi driver could give you, could express 46 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:11,230 his advice. No offense to taxi drivers, I'm just 47 00:03:11,230 --> 00:03:12,570 giving you an example. Yes. 48 00:03:17,450 --> 00:03:21,090 Okay, so there is this special thing about deep 49 00:03:21,090 --> 00:03:24,070 analysis, the profound, you know, digging deeper 50 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:25,970 and deeper rather than going for the superficial 51 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:32,210 mundane things. I believe that, first of all, as 52 00:03:32,210 --> 00:03:35,950 Rizwan said, some people have so much emotions but 53 00:03:35,950 --> 00:03:38,630 they can't find the words. So literature in 54 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:41,230 general, whether poetry or prose, gives you those 55 00:03:41,230 --> 00:03:46,140 words. Another thing is Reading literature 56 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:51,420 sometimes helps us overcome our troubles, because 57 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:54,000 when we read literature, we feel that there are 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,130 people who think out of the same But again, 59 00:03:58,170 --> 00:04:00,670 doesn't this apply to other mundane things? If 60 00:04:00,670 --> 00:04:03,850 you, I don't know, if you are a parent, you have a 61 00:04:03,850 --> 00:04:07,410 shopping list to do, you have little money, you 62 00:04:07,410 --> 00:04:09,610 have too many things to buy and you read it. It 63 00:04:09,610 --> 00:04:13,030 could be a life changing experience because the 64 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:16,170 things, is this the same? What's the difference 65 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:21,650 between like say a shopping list and a poem? Okay. 66 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:35,510 I think okay imagine a father again you know 67 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:38,270 struggling you know the economical situation 68 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:41,470 around the world and how people are struggling to 69 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:44,770 afford to put food on the table and somebody 70 00:04:44,770 --> 00:04:49,190 realizes that he has to buy so many things at the 71 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:52,230 same time he has or she has very little money 72 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:55,370 that's going to it's going to be like a poem 73 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:01,640 So what's the difference? Why do we have poets? 74 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:09,100 What is the main job of a poet? I think that 75 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:11,900 poetry makes you feel responsible upon something 76 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:15,700 you didn't feel responsible about, like defending 77 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:19,300 the land or doing something good or maybe make a 78 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:23,160 charity. sometimes you see a poor person and you 79 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,780 don't think to give him money or her. So poetry 80 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:30,420 makes you to think about this. But when I'm 81 00:05:30,420 --> 00:05:33,320 talking about a father who has responsibility over 82 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,040 his family, it's normal to feel responsible. So 83 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,100 you don't need poetry to feel responsible about 84 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:41,680 that. So poetry doesn't change our relationships 85 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,040 between, like if you have a, don't you like your 86 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,520 mom more when you read one particular poem, you 87 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,040 listen to one particular song? But does this love 88 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,260 increase, decrease? Increases. Does poetry 89 00:05:56,260 --> 00:05:58,560 contribute to increasing, decreasing things? This 90 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,380 question is in my heart. Please. Please, yes. I 91 00:06:02,380 --> 00:06:05,260 think poets have the ability to say stuff that we 92 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:08,720 feel but can't say. So yes, when you read a poem 93 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,060 about mothers in general, I can relate to the 94 00:06:14,060 --> 00:06:16,600 feelings, but I myself, it never occurred to me to 95 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,000 say them this way. When I read them in a poem, if 96 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,220 somebody is speaking your mind, you know? And like 97 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:25,280 another thing, you said about like what's the 98 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:27,520 difference between like a father who lectures you 99 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,440 and like a poet who is also in a way another 100 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,580 lecturer in a poem. Well, it's different because 101 00:06:33,580 --> 00:06:35,980 like I think we choose to listen to the poem and 102 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:39,960 like even if it was all dictation, full of stuff 103 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,180 that… Preaching, yeah. Yeah, teaching, we still 104 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:44,620 wouldn't like feel it this way because like we 105 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:47,200 choose to listen to it and we like think of it 106 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,120 more than when someone just comes to us directly 107 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:54,730 So you're saying that here sometimes when 108 00:06:54,730 --> 00:06:59,570 something is dictated to us, you know, when we're 109 00:06:59,570 --> 00:07:03,630 given orders, commands, we tend to, you know, to 110 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:07,370 be reluctant to do, to follow. But if something is 111 00:07:07,370 --> 00:07:09,630 written in such a way, in such an attractive, 112 00:07:10,270 --> 00:07:14,580 poetic way that speaks our minds, but at the same 113 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:19,820 time does not make us feel that we're just blindly 114 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:24,540 following somebody. It's this thing that answers 115 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:27,140 some call from inside that makes you feel that 116 00:07:27,140 --> 00:07:31,180 it's special because you find poetry different. 117 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,620 Yes, I think even their arguments aren't 118 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:36,920 convincing enough that they're degrading in a way 119 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,380 to appeal to people. Okay, okay. But we do have 120 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:43,770 other people who are as convincing as poets. Don't 121 00:07:43,770 --> 00:07:48,050 we? So, what is the main job of poets? If you are 122 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:50,570 a poet, what would you be doing and why? Poets are 123 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:53,970 responsible to start things and they call people's 124 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:58,350 attention to something or they make people pay 125 00:07:58,350 --> 00:08:01,010 attention to something that they are part of. For 126 00:08:01,010 --> 00:08:04,410 example, when I read about such as the incitement 127 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:05,650 party or the resistance, 128 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 So you're talking about two things here. Number 129 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,860 one, the ability of many poets to defamiliarize 130 00:08:23,860 --> 00:08:26,900 things, to push us to reconsider things, even the 131 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:29,220 very mundane, the things that we see every day, 132 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,460 but we don't pay attention to. And now the poets 133 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:36,200 present these things in a way that attracts our 134 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,700 attention, that makes us pause, think, and 135 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:42,860 reconsider our position, our stances. And you 136 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:44,760 mentioned another point, which is really very deep 137 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,100 here, about how poets usually initiate. They start 138 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:54,690 things. And this is something that mirrors Freud's 139 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:57,130 famous statement, the poets were there before me. 140 00:08:57,210 --> 00:09:01,350 You know Freud, psychoanalysis? When he was 141 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:05,570 looking for examples to clarify, to illustrate his 142 00:09:05,570 --> 00:09:09,610 ideas about psychoanalysis and everything, he 143 00:09:09,610 --> 00:09:12,890 found himself almost always quoting literary 144 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:16,890 works, works of fiction drama, poetry. And he came 145 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,650 to the conclusion that poets were there before me, 146 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:23,610 every, all my ideas. have been in a way or another 147 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:28,990 expressed, mentioned, discussed, elaborated on by 148 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:32,150 poets. And that's why he says, poets were there 149 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:35,810 before me. Actually, after this course, I feel 150 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:39,110 like writing poetry is in the sake of writing 151 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:44,630 poetry. This is the thing that it's up to you what 152 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:48,150 you want to take from this poem. Actually, when we 153 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:51,810 take some poems we like, we have different symbols 154 00:09:51,810 --> 00:09:57,210 from different perspectives. So I think this is 155 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:58,750 the job of the poem. 156 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,600 It's up to the reader what he wants to take from 157 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,440 the speech. It depends. Some people believe that. 158 00:10:11,140 --> 00:10:13,600 I'm writing just for the sake of writing. It's 159 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,120 like I want, there's something inside, I want to 160 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 get it out there. I don't care what influence it's 161 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,760 going to have on me or on other people. What I 162 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,680 care about is, again, how, what I do. I just, 163 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:28,720 there's something. I usually use this stupid 164 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,480 example, but it's like when a mom is due, is 165 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,800 pregnant, nine months, baby, and the baby has to 166 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,500 get out. What happens next just has to get out. I 167 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:41,320 don't know whether this is in a way similar to 168 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,900 this situation of poets getting out poems, but not 169 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:49,420 many people will agree that we write for the sake 170 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:53,870 of writing or even as self-expression. Many people 171 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:56,630 read about poets, what they say, talk to poets, 172 00:10:56,770 --> 00:10:59,250 people who write poetry. That's why I try to 173 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:02,270 assign you to write poetry. Okay, you feel the 174 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:05,170 need to write because I want you to, but by time I 175 00:11:05,170 --> 00:11:07,690 hope that you find yourself able to express 176 00:11:07,690 --> 00:11:10,690 yourself without having to be pushed into this by 177 00:11:10,690 --> 00:11:18,550 somebody. So again, we go back to the idea that 178 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:22,090 Poetry could be self-expression. There's there's a 179 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:26,550 movement called art for art's sake Why are you 180 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:28,230 doing this? Why are you painting? Why are you 181 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:32,170 writing this? I don't care. I just write I think 182 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:36,310 it's It's significant for me to write. I don't 183 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:39,330 care what influence or impact. But then there will 184 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:44,870 be many people who will say, no, poetry is a tool 185 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:49,890 of, like you said here, of change, of revolution, 186 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:53,370 of resistance, of probably teaching, teaching and 187 00:11:53,370 --> 00:11:55,730 delighting. More, please. 188 00:12:14,020 --> 00:12:16,200 This universal thing about them, they touch our 189 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,340 hearts. Sometimes you read a poem in a different 190 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:22,110 foreign language and you relate. you find it 191 00:12:22,110 --> 00:12:23,770 appealing and sometimes you don't understand 192 00:12:23,770 --> 00:12:26,890 everything about like the words and you know but 193 00:12:26,890 --> 00:12:29,430 sometimes the tune helps with songs especially 194 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:32,810 like you feel that this is wow we do this all the 195 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:38,990 time uh i posted on the on our facebook page uh up 196 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:41,070 the wall some sometimes something like this a poem 197 00:12:41,070 --> 00:12:42,970 and a song i was watching this show i'm not going 198 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:49,250 to mention uh and In every episode or two, there's 199 00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:53,330 usually a song at a particular time. And I usually 200 00:12:53,330 --> 00:12:55,490 hear the song and I don't pay attention to it, 201 00:12:55,550 --> 00:12:58,030 except this one particular thing. I paused, I went 202 00:12:58,030 --> 00:13:02,530 to Google, and I Googled the song. I loved it. And 203 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:05,170 this is what I'm talking about here. The ability 204 00:13:05,170 --> 00:13:08,070 of the poet or the poem to attract you, to say, 205 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:12,080 stop, pause everything, wait. Pay attention to me, 206 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,100 I am now everything in your life and you'll find 207 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:19,000 it really beautiful in this way. But I know many 208 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 of you wouldn't like to do this, wouldn't pause 209 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,820 their lives, not what they're watching and just 210 00:13:24,820 --> 00:13:29,130 think what a poem would do to you. And I hope this 211 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:32,810 course is going to make you think many times about 212 00:13:32,810 --> 00:13:36,110 this, to stop for a word, for a stanza, for a 213 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:40,290 phrase, for a poem, for a line of verse, and 214 00:13:40,290 --> 00:13:44,170 reconsider things. See how this is going to, what 215 00:13:44,170 --> 00:13:47,410 is, what this thing is going to do to your life, 216 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:50,570 to yourself. Please. I think, also, the Jabuh 217 00:13:50,570 --> 00:13:53,270 Dabuwat, it's not convey the message in an ordinal 218 00:13:53,270 --> 00:13:59,110 message. For example, in the political problems, 219 00:13:59,290 --> 00:14:01,730 sometimes we don't need to express our feelings 220 00:14:01,730 --> 00:14:04,990 because of the government suppression, so the 221 00:14:04,990 --> 00:14:08,970 boots sometimes use symbolic words or they express 222 00:14:08,970 --> 00:14:12,070 the meaning in indirect ways, so we can express 223 00:14:12,070 --> 00:14:16,330 our feelings That's also true. And that's 224 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:18,870 something that makes poetry special. You could 225 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:21,590 still express yourself in a way, in an allegorical 226 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:23,910 way, you know, Ahmed Shawqi, Barazas Ta'ala Abu 227 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:26,830 Yaman and those very allegorical poets. You can 228 00:14:26,830 --> 00:14:28,430 escape political persecution. 229 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,620 And it's just like yesterday I was in a car with 230 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:39,040 my dad and there was a song on the radio, it 231 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,880 literally documents the whole thing. It's just a 232 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,480 song that lasts for three minutes. And this is so 233 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,060 powerful that we can just learn about a whole 234 00:14:49,060 --> 00:14:52,740 nation through a poem. That's true. That's true. 235 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:58,980 One more? I also believe that poetry and like all 236 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:01,780 literature in general has the ability to make us 237 00:15:01,780 --> 00:15:06,780 understand ourselves without So sometimes you'd be 238 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:08,940 reading about a character and you'd say wow that 239 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:11,300 character is horrible and then all of a sudden it 240 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:15,560 strikes you that I do this. So it makes us realize 241 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,680 how horrible people are. Like is this again 242 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,240 connected to that idea Nadia raised here, the fact 243 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,360 that When people are preachy, we tend to be 244 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,500 defensive. You know, do, don't, do, don't, do, 245 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:28,520 don't, do, don't. You feel exposed, true. But a 246 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,980 poet has the ability, a poem has the ability to 247 00:15:30,980 --> 00:15:35,000 capture your essence and to make you realize that, 248 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:38,340 oh my God, this is about me. This is me. I am 249 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:42,040 Ozymandias. I am this person or that person. Okay, 250 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:45,720 one more question. Do you trust poets? Do you 251 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,180 think poets are trustworthy? they are they're not 252 00:15:50,180 --> 00:15:54,740 okay they're not they are are they or are they not 253 00:15:54,740 --> 00:16:02,020 yes or no yes no oh nice it's okay it's up to you 254 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:09,480 so yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or 255 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,720 no yes or no yes or no yes or no so most of you 256 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:19,210 say no okay okay okay okay Now, why? Why? Please. 257 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:34,070 What if 258 00:16:34,070 --> 00:16:36,710 you have a close friend who is a poet, would you 259 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:40,090 still trust him? What in this person would you be 260 00:16:40,090 --> 00:16:40,950 trusting? Please. 261 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,700 Okay, most of you are saying him for the poet, it 262 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,600 could be a she. So would you trust him more in 263 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 this case if this is, honestly, if you're reading 264 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,120 a poem for a female poet, would you take it more 265 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,800 seriously? Would you, would it? Please? 266 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,940 Okay, she's like a close friend of mine. I would, 267 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,760 like, I trust my friend, right? 268 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:28,840 Okay. So what is it that you don't trust poets 269 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:39,640 about? Briefly, yes please. In brief. So is 270 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,990 it good or bad? It's bad, especially for the 271 00:17:42,990 --> 00:17:48,710 teenagers or the beginners in learning. They will 272 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:54,690 believe what is shown in the poem, yet the poets 273 00:17:54,690 --> 00:18:01,570 are giving the answer that is more than they said. 274 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:06,340 Okay, so what do you think? Is that bad? Because 275 00:18:06,340 --> 00:18:09,280 some people here are saying, if you tell me 276 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,700 everything, preach me everything, I'm not going to 277 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,740 like it. If you show me, if you do things by 278 00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:18,540 showing me, by making me think, look for the 279 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:22,140 truth, look for the idea, it would make you part 280 00:18:22,140 --> 00:18:25,500 of the poem. Remember? So yeah, it's true. I like 281 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,600 this again expression. The unsaid is usually more 282 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,580 than the said. Please. I think maybe some poets 283 00:18:31,580 --> 00:18:35,270 can exaggerate the situation or their feelings. Is 284 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:38,510 that good or bad? Don't we all do that all the 285 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:40,370 time? Don't we exaggerate when we hate somebody, 286 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:44,530 when we like somebody, when you... We should be, 287 00:18:44,550 --> 00:18:48,450 but we're not. Most often we're not. Yes, please. 288 00:18:49,580 --> 00:18:52,260 I think poets sometimes try to immortalize things 289 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:55,020 and erase other things. I remember once you told 290 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:59,460 us that before Zionism came to Palestine, they 291 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:03,420 were preparing in prose and poetry. So the poets 292 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:07,570 can... portray for the people what he wants. And 293 00:19:07,570 --> 00:19:10,570 Ozymandias is a great example. The reader of this 294 00:19:10,570 --> 00:19:13,770 poem, for the first time, he will be ready to 295 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:17,670 understand, and later he will get the information 296 00:19:17,670 --> 00:19:22,010 about bad kings. Okay, so again, you're 297 00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:26,270 generalizing here. If one poet is using poetry to 298 00:19:26,270 --> 00:19:30,890 deceive and trick, does that mean we need to 299 00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:32,530 distrust all poets? 300 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,120 That's very good. You need to be very careful. You 301 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:42,280 need to be very cautious about what poets do with 302 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,580 their poetry. True. 303 00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:20,830 In terms of ideas or in terms of language? In 304 00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:25,110 terms of how idealized they are 305 00:20:27,370 --> 00:20:31,750 Okay, so does this mean we tend to like realistic 306 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:36,430 poetry more, to find ourselves, or at least trust, 307 00:20:36,510 --> 00:20:39,010 do we trust more realistic poets more? 308 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,340 Okay, why wouldn't you trust, like generally 309 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:47,520 speaking, why wouldn't you trust a poet? I think 310 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,100 not all poets must be taken for granted because 311 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:55,400 sometimes they only write poetry for the sake of 312 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,340 getting some support in a way or another, whether 313 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:03,400 financial support or social. Be careful many poets 314 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,620 don't make much money these days Only if you if 315 00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:09,260 you are successful novel writer novelist you could 316 00:21:09,260 --> 00:21:12,500 do that, but short story writers Poets they don't 317 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:17,860 make much money Okay 318 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:22,480 Okay, 319 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,340 so sometimes poets not all poets are good people 320 00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:29,400 they do bad stuff they could do would you like a 321 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:34,420 poetry written by somebody who you don't like if 322 00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:39,980 the man the man or the woman is bad like but they 323 00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:42,600 write good poetry so to speak would you still read 324 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,080 their poetry okay 325 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,520 please 326 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,060 The man himself. So you're trying to detach. 327 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,300 There's something that this of the author, there's 328 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:01,260 this theory that once poets, once authors, writers 329 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:06,160 write stuff, it belongs to us, to the readers. And 330 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,240 it also means that the writing is the sum of 331 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,980 everything around them. It's not only them, 332 00:22:14,060 --> 00:22:16,960 because you will always be quoting inspired by 333 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,640 other writers and other authors. These are very 334 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,040 excellent ideas you have. Think about them and see 335 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,400 how you could develop these ideas now. 336 00:22:30,980 --> 00:22:37,300 As Arabs, we have always appreciated pottery. 337 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:40,520 Pottery has been part and parcel of our life, of 338 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,930 our heritage. It's probably the most significant 339 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:47,690 thing we had from the Arabs. In addition, you 340 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:50,470 know, like ancient Arabs were all like 1,000, 2 341 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:53,410 ,000 years ago in addition to later on to Islam 342 00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:58,540 and the Quran and the Sunnah, right? And the only 343 00:22:58,540 --> 00:23:01,300 miracle in Islam for Prophet Muhammad was the 344 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:04,280 Quran, because Arabs were excellent poets with 345 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,660 rhetoric, with language, with words. They were the 346 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:10,360 best of the best, how they used language and how 347 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,440 they expressed themselves. Now, in the Quran, 348 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,460 there's a whole surah, a whole chapter named after 349 00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:20,080 the poets as shu'ara. And again, indicating how 350 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,790 significant these people are. They're not 351 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:29,150 mentioned like we expect them to be mentioned 352 00:23:29,150 --> 00:23:38,830 because the verse says, Now this 353 00:23:38,830 --> 00:23:41,910 is significant, meaning, translate the gist that 354 00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:49,330 poets are only followed by people who don't follow 355 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:53,190 the truth because they roam, literal translation, 356 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:56,010 they roam in every valley. They fluctuate, they 357 00:23:56,010 --> 00:23:58,870 change. One time they're here and the other day 358 00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:02,090 they're doing the opposite. Sometime they would be 359 00:24:02,090 --> 00:24:04,230 praising this man and then next week, next month 360 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:07,170 they would be attacking him or criticizing him. 361 00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:13,150 And this is significant because during the time of 362 00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:15,710 Prophet Muhammad there was Hassan Ibn Thabit, the 363 00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:20,380 famous poet, Prophet Muhammad kind of like brought 364 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:22,580 him very close to him. He made him his own 365 00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:25,680 personal poet. And he even ordered him to write, 366 00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:28,900 gave him the order to write poetry against the 367 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:33,060 people attacking, hating the Prophet Muhammad 368 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:36,920 peace be upon him at that time. And he even, you 369 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:42,420 know, he made him sit on a pulpit, the minbar, you 370 00:24:42,420 --> 00:24:46,020 know, And nobody else, nobody else of the 371 00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:49,420 Prophet's companions had this place because he was 372 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:52,360 a poet. And now the interesting thing is that 373 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,660 Hassan was not a warrior. He was not a fighter. We 374 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,880 talk about a time when fighting was probably one 375 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,120 of the most significant things, right? But writing 376 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:04,160 poetry perhaps was even more significant. So for 377 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,400 this, because poets are significant, Prophet 378 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960 Muhammad brought this man, Hassan Ibn Thabit, 379 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960 closer to him, probably closer than any of the 380 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,880 other companions. 381 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,140 And he gave him, he always asked him to write 382 00:25:20,140 --> 00:25:24,820 poetry, to attack, to criticize the people of 383 00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:32,800 Quraysh. And for this, this is the verse. However, 384 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:36,220 there is always an exception, so there is no 385 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:40,690 general blanket condemnation of poets. And look at 386 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:43,350 what sort of poets that are praised here, illa 387 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:46,250 alladhina aman wa amali, except, so all poets are 388 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:50,410 bad, except those who believe and do. And some of 389 00:25:50,410 --> 00:25:52,350 you mentioned this in passing, that poets say 390 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:54,770 stuff, but they don't do it. They are people of 391 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:57,810 words rather than people of action. So I think 392 00:25:57,810 --> 00:26:01,110 this is one important thing that we look for in 393 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:03,710 poets. We want poets who are probably realistic, 394 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,090 like you said, connected to life, who push us to 395 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:09,150 do new things, to break new ground, who speak our 396 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:13,050 minds, who lead by example, but also poets who 397 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:16,690 themselves do, they practice what they preach. 398 00:26:17,290 --> 00:26:22,010 They practice what they preach. Look at this, how 399 00:26:22,010 --> 00:26:26,050 poetry can be an act of resistance. 400 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,080 I like this translation. It's like literal. Don't 401 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560 you see that in every valley there? I think in 402 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,940 Arabic, in the Quran, this is one of the most 403 00:26:34,940 --> 00:26:35,640 beautiful images. 404 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:43,420 When somebody goes into 405 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:47,000 a place aimlessly, just walks around wandering 406 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320 aimlessly. This is what means like they could be 407 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,880 going there. They just can be writing poetry, like 408 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,230 you said, for no reason or for no purpose. Okay, 409 00:26:57,550 --> 00:27:00,770 so despite the fact that Hassan Ibn Thabit did not 410 00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:05,550 fight well, he wasn't a warrior, he was made 411 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:07,390 special by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. He 412 00:27:07,390 --> 00:27:12,210 even prayed saying that the angel Gabriel will 413 00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:15,970 support him in his defense of Allah and his 414 00:27:15,970 --> 00:27:20,570 prophet. And then I move probably an example I 415 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:24,830 mentioned here. How poets try to bring change, 416 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:29,890 affect change. This is a story by a famous poet 417 00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:34,790 called Jarir. And Jarir, you know Jarir. Jarir was 418 00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:40,370 a genius poet in many ways. He was famous for his 419 00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:44,670 satire. He always loved satire. Now, in one of his 420 00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:52,810 poems, he was in front of the caliph. And the 421 00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:55,290 Arabs, like we have in English literature, in the 422 00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:57,090 Renaissance literature, how the opening is 423 00:27:57,090 --> 00:28:00,610 significant, the first impression, the opening. 424 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:02,830 That's why some people didn't like John Donne, 425 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:05,130 because he had these rough and tough and abrupt 426 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:10,010 openings. Death, be not proud. Spit in my face. 427 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:13,470 Batter my heart. And all these tough openings 428 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:16,690 here. And now, instead of opening the poem 429 00:28:16,690 --> 00:28:22,830 smoothly, sweetly, Many poets did. He was like, 430 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:26,150 Atashu anfuqaduka ghayru sahi ashiyatahama sahbuka 431 00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:30,290 bilrawahi. Meaning, are you awake? Are you fully 432 00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:35,070 awake? Are you asleep? And now, the caliph, who 433 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:38,390 loved pottery very much, hated this very much. How 434 00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:42,690 would you? Why would you? How dare you? So he held 435 00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:45,530 something, the ink holder, I don't know what you 436 00:28:45,530 --> 00:28:52,180 call it, and he just hit him with it. and injured 437 00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:55,600 him. So there was ink and blood all over his face, 438 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Jarir's face. And the man, the caliph locked away. 439 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,660 He didn't like that. But Jarir knew what he was 440 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:07,180 coming to. And then he reached a line of verse 441 00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:09,540 where he said, meaning, 442 00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:15,940 aren't you the most fearless fighters and the most 443 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:19,240 generous people of all? And when he got to this 444 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,580 line, the caliph stood, looked at him, and he 445 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,440 clapped and said, bala, bala, bala, I like this. 446 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:30,200 Now, many of us could say that this is a mistake. 447 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,230 Like Jareer committed a mistake and this is true. 448 00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:35,330 It could be that he committed a mistake, but there 449 00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:36,970 is another interpretation. It could be deliberate. 450 00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:41,780 This man is a genius. He's a poet. In the sense 451 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,060 that he could have done this in order to change 452 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:50,800 things. I like poetry that subverts the authority 453 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 of people, like people in authority, patriarchy 454 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,880 and everything. Poetry that attacks these symbols 455 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,440 of power, of authority, is the poetry that appeals 456 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,840 to me most. And I read this here. I think Jarir, 457 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440 by doing this, is trying to do two things. Number 458 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,210 one, to shake the image of the caliph. But also 459 00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:13,830 number two, to tell other poets and people that 460 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:15,710 there are many ways to start a poem. You don't 461 00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:21,690 have to start standing on the ruins and being all 462 00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:24,890 sweet and everything. A poem can begin like this 463 00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:28,290 in a tough and rough way. And talking about 464 00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:31,770 openings, we always go to Abu Nawaz, one of my 465 00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:35,190 favorite poets. Abu Nawaz wasn't an Arab, he was a 466 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:39,300 Persian. And sadly for this some critics didn't 467 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:43,660 like him just for the fact that he was Persian. He 468 00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:47,520 was alcoholic and again people hated him for that. 469 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,800 But remember we don't talk about the person 470 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 himself here, we talk about the poet, the poetry. 471 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:57,150 So this man, again, how he was changing, if not 472 00:30:57,150 --> 00:31:01,070 ideas and society and customs, changing the way 473 00:31:01,070 --> 00:31:04,970 poets would be writing. He hated very much what 474 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:08,030 for hundreds and hundreds of years Arab poets 475 00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:11,090 would open the poems against standing on the ruins 476 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:17,330 and remains of the beloved tribe or something. And 477 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:19,870 I think that must have been boring for some 478 00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:24,470 people, for many people. Imagine you reading or 479 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:27,010 listening to a poem, like a hundred poems and a 480 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:31,730 thousand poems, all opening, standing over the 481 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:34,270 ruins of something. So change was significant. 482 00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:37,470 Again, poets would always start with this. So he 483 00:31:37,470 --> 00:31:40,470 said, قُلّي مَن مَرَّ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا 484 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:44,730 till those people who stand over the ruins of 485 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:49,630 their... Why don't you sit down? Have a seat. Sit 486 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:55,190 down. رجليك تعبوك تريح مادره لو كان جلس and I 487 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:58,770 showed you some of the memes yeah I showed you 488 00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:02,950 again this is another poem another line مادره لو 489 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:05,990 كان جلس this is that this is from Abu Nawaz all of 490 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:10,430 it فما الوقوف على الأطلال من شأنه I am not a 491 00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:13,250 person who would stand over I don't do this I 492 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:16,590 don't stand over ruins it's not something I do I 493 00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:21,660 like doing And لتلك أبكي و لا أبكي لمنزلتي I don't 494 00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:25,380 cry or weep over these things كانت تحل بها هند و 495 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:28,420 أسموة I weep for something that happened, for an 496 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:33,090 experience I don't weep over And this, listen This 497 00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:35,870 could be because again Abu Nawaz wanted to change 498 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:38,810 the way, but I don't know. Is it because also he 499 00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:43,470 doesn't have roots in wherever he was in Iraq or 500 00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:46,890 here and there? It's like place doesn't mean much 501 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:49,430 to him because this is not where he is from 502 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:51,030 originally. He was born somewhere else. I don't 503 00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:54,330 know. It could be both. And I find this very 504 00:32:54,330 --> 00:33:00,270 striking. This is really extreme. 505 00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:07,310 That's really extreme. This is supplication. May 506 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:12,130 God not have mercy on any eye that cries over the 507 00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:16,410 ruins or the remains. That's very extreme. I did 508 00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:19,930 my memes myself. I try sometimes. I love this. I 509 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:22,450 never understood this until somebody memed this 510 00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:25,660 woman. So this woman was tasting something. You 511 00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:27,500 know sometimes you eat something that you hate 512 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:30,380 very much, and just before you spit it out, you 513 00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,280 think, wait a minute, this is really different. 514 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,060 You know, I have tasted this, I'm very 515 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,460 adventurous, wherever I travel, I like to try the 516 00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:42,180 food. So sometimes it's like, oh my God, I want to 517 00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:45,100 spit it out. But then you just give it one moment, 518 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:47,540 and it's like, wow, this is different, special. 519 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:52,000 So, قُلّي مَن مَرَ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا، 520 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,900 مَا دَرَ لَوْ جَلَسْ O'Dis Famous, like how most 521 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:02,100 Arab poets would be قفة نبكي من ذكرى حبيبى ومنزلي 522 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:06,740 بسقط اللوى بين دخولى فحوملى etc But then مادرة لو 523 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:11,990 كان جلس, sit down, you don't have to stand Now 524 00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:14,250 look at Al Mutanabbi. We know Al Mutanabbi is 525 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:17,630 perhaps some argue that he's the greatest poet of 526 00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:21,090 all times even surpassing Shakespeare and Dante 527 00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:23,690 and those great poets. It's still an opinion that 528 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:27,210 some people have. He's no doubt the greatest Arab 529 00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:29,270 poet of all time. 530 00:34:31,420 --> 00:34:34,620 Was a special, was a poet, I'm not sure if you 531 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:37,320 read any, if you know, like, you will be amazed 532 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,780 how many of the wisdoms you know were said by Al 533 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:45,140 -Mutanabbi. Masayabu qawmin anda qawmin fawa'id. 534 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,800 It's something from Al-Mutanabbi. One man's poison 535 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,020 is another man's meat. Ma li jurhin bimayitin 536 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:55,480 ilam. I did one dozen tears. You know, most of the 537 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,960 idioms, the proverbs, the expressions we know, I 538 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,220 don't say most, like some of them come originally 539 00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:05,280 from Al-Mutanabi. Sha'ar Al-Hikma, I think he was 540 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,580 described, the poet of wisdom, anyway. I don't 541 00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:10,860 care. 542 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080 The thing is that you need to read Al-Mutanabi, 543 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:21,560 you have to, really. When he, he was, this man was 544 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,840 looking to be, you know, appointed, you know, some 545 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,740 Emir here or there. And he was, you know, keeping 546 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,000 with Seif Eddaoula, and every time, like, Seif 547 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,060 Eddaoula would be rejecting him, like, okay, stay 548 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:36,000 around, write poetry for me, and that's it. So he 549 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,900 left him and he went to Egypt, Kafour El Ekhshidi. 550 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:41,040 Again, hoping that Kafour El Ekhshidi would be 551 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,320 giving him what? You know, some place to rule. And 552 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,560 when he went to Egypt, he was heading to Egypt, he 553 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 wrote one of the most beautiful poems of all time. 554 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,340 Again, in anticipating, preparing for the meeting 555 00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:58,610 with Kafour El Ekhshidi. He stayed there in vain. 556 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:02,490 Kafuri Khashidi was not also willing to give him 557 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,910 some place to rule or something. And he left Egypt 558 00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:08,630 heading back to Syria, and he wrote again one of 559 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:11,850 the most fascinating poems of all time. So it's 560 00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:15,290 the same thing. You know, I'm praising this man 561 00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:16,850 and attacking him. It's not just attacking him. 562 00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:20,630 The famous poem says, I will return at any cost. I 563 00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:23,230 will return to what has been done to you to renew 564 00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:25,210 it. As for his beloved ones in the desert without 565 00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:36,060 them, He says one 566 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:40,270 of those lines that Very memorable. He talks about 567 00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:41,510 the people there in Egypt. 568 00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:52,510 Those people stink that even when the angel of 569 00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,170 death takes their souls, it brings, you know, a 570 00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:57,170 stick so it doesn't touch them. It just takes 571 00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,970 their souls with with a stick, that's extreme. So 572 00:37:00,970 --> 00:37:03,630 when he was running away from Egypt, leaving Egypt 573 00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:08,490 behind, some people whose mother, Al-Mutanabbi, 574 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:13,470 satirized, were coming after him and he wanted to 575 00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:17,740 run away until one of his followers One of his 576 00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:26,700 servants said, Sir, wasn't it you who said, Didn't 577 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,800 you say that, I don't know, the horse, the steed, 578 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,520 the knight, the desert know me, the sword, the 579 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,380 spear, the paper and pen as well? Like didn't you 580 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:43,020 say this? Didn't you praise yourself as the 581 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,100 greatest of fighters? 582 00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:55,860 But he wasn't a fighter. He was a fighter in his 583 00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:58,280 own words. But because he wanted to keep his word, 584 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,520 he wanted to tell people that poets are not liars, 585 00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:03,980 that poets are to be trusted. He stood and chose 586 00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:06,720 to fight rather than run away. And he knew he's 587 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,520 going to be killed. And that's why he said to the 588 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,380 man, You killed me. You reminded me of my own 589 00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:17,220 poetry. You made me stop and fight. I'm not a 590 00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:19,460 fighter. But because I said something, I have to 591 00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:23,590 keep my word. That's very beautiful. If you don't 592 00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:25,610 like this about the Mutanabbi, I don't know what 593 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:29,470 else you're going to like about him. I don't know. 594 00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:35,450 Poets say stuff. Now, we move to Mahmoud Samil 595 00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:40,390 Baroudi, one of the poets of like, I don't know 596 00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:43,310 when he lived exactly, but like 150 years ago or 597 00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:47,620 so. Arab poetry was in really steep decline until 598 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:52,940 Mahmoud Samuel Baroudi came with the Renaissance 599 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:56,340 or whatever, the modern Renaissance movement of 600 00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:59,620 Arabic poetry, the classical Arabic poetry. This 601 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:01,980 man was a fighter and he was also a poet. That's 602 00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:04,900 why he was described as the lord of the sword and 603 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,840 the pen. Rabb al-saif wal-qalam. Again, you see 604 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,620 what I'm doing here. It's trying to connect how 605 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:17,600 words and deeds are usually there with poets. And 606 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,040 it's probably these poets that we like more, 607 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,820 because they practice what they preach rather than 608 00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:27,520 just... And we go to another example from 609 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,560 Palestinian culture and poetry, Abd al-Rahim 610 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,320 Mahmoud. Do you know Abd al-Rahim Mahmoud? Again, 611 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,320 he was a great fighter. He was a Palestinian 612 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,250 feday, commando, and he was also a great poet. In 613 00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:44,090 his poem, famous poem, سأحمل روحي على راحتي We all 614 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:48,530 know this by heart و ألقي بها في مهاورة فإما حياته 615 00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:52,590 تسر الصديق و إما ماته يغيظ العدى I'll carry my 616 00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:56,350 soul on the palm of my hand and throw it to the 617 00:39:56,350 --> 00:40:00,770 abyss of death It's either a life that pleases a 618 00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:04,830 friend or friends or death that teases and spites 619 00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:08,830 the enemy or something Now what makes this special 620 00:40:08,830 --> 00:40:12,050 is that Mahmoud Darwish died defending his land, 621 00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:16,430 died fighting the Zionist occupation of Palestine. 622 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:19,830 He died a fighter. He said something. He preached 623 00:40:19,830 --> 00:40:23,890 us something. Probably these words come to life. 624 00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:27,050 He comes to life every time we read this. He 625 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:30,010 showed us what to do, what to say, and how to do 626 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:33,240 it. And I'm not sure what other Palestinian poets 627 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,480 you like, but for many Mahmoud Darwish usually 628 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:41,500 comes on top of the list. So this is some kind of 629 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:47,400 translation. Now I'll again fast forward to Tamim 630 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,980 al-Barghouti. We mentioned Tamim very, very many 631 00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:56,260 times. We studied a poem by Tamim. Again, for many 632 00:40:56,260 --> 00:41:02,730 people, Tamim is The hope we have that we'll 633 00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:05,830 always have great people, great thinkers, great 634 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:11,730 poets to look up to. For many people, the fact 635 00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:15,070 that Tamim is usually writing anti-occupation 636 00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:17,560 poetry, resistance poetry, makes him special. but 637 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,020 also he appeals to many of us to, he's not only a 638 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,480 Palestinian poet or an Egyptian poet, he's also 639 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,420 now a global poet, a poet that would address 640 00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:30,920 almost all issues around the Arab world, 641 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,580 especially with the Arab Spring and everything. 642 00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:35,320 Probably the fact that he is young and he was very 643 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000 much involved in the Arab Spring is significant. 644 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,360 Now I remember when the Arab Spring started in 645 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,880 Egypt, the very next day, Tamim was on Al-Jazeera 646 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,860 reciting one of his poems, This poem 647 00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:57,040 is beautiful poem. And a friend of mine called me 648 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,420 and he said, your friend Tamim, he's not my 649 00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:03,140 friend, I just like him. Your friend Tamim will be 650 00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:05,840 thrown behind the sun. You know the expression, 651 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,340 how Arab regimes would exile critics behind the 652 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:16,940 sun. And I said, Because my friend wanted, you 653 00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:19,260 know, we know many people usually when things 654 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:22,060 about to change are very careful what to say, what 655 00:42:22,060 --> 00:42:24,080 not to say, what to do and what not to do because 656 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,420 we're not sure who's going to come out victorious. 657 00:42:27,260 --> 00:42:30,340 So we wait. But this is what ordinary people do. 658 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,580 This is what you and I do. We just wait. So we're 659 00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:38,000 careful not to be persecuted here or there. But 660 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,400 great people, great poets want to lead the change 661 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,140 like Reem said there. So the fact that he was 662 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:47,540 there, one of the early people to support the 663 00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:51,340 uprising, the Arab Spring, it means a lot to his 664 00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:54,240 poetry and to his name and to what he was doing. 665 00:42:54,850 --> 00:42:59,050 He's just not a poet like Marah who suggested that 666 00:42:59,050 --> 00:43:01,030 they would usually say something and the other day 667 00:43:01,030 --> 00:43:04,070 say the very opposite of something. So the fact 668 00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:07,490 that he was there early in the days calling for 669 00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:12,530 people to come out, to rise, makes him also a 670 00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:18,920 special poet. Now, Even if you don't do, if you 671 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400 don't practice what you preach, sometimes, again, 672 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,700 your words are enough. You don't have to be a 673 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:27,740 poet. Remember we said something about children, 674 00:43:28,180 --> 00:43:30,720 that words were saying that child is the father of 675 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,080 man and something like this. Children don't have 676 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,020 to do anything to influence us, to change us, 677 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,000 right? They just have to be there with their crazy 678 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,400 stuff. 679 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,020 These are two poets, Palestinian poets. They're 680 00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:49,280 not fighters. They didn't fight. They didn't carry 681 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,660 guns or stones or whatever. They just wrote 682 00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:56,920 poetry. And still for that, the Israeli occupation 683 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,500 looked at them in the way Israeli occupation looks 684 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:05,440 at Palestinians. Moshi Dayan is reported to have 685 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,760 said about Fadwa Tokan, he's a war criminal, he 686 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,200 likened her reading one of her poems to facing 20 687 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,200 enemy commanders, fighters. So one poem by Fadwa 688 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,940 Tokan was viewed by this Israeli war criminal as 689 00:44:19,940 --> 00:44:25,640 20 fighters. So words, so is it again, I find it 690 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,740 difficult sometimes to separate words from deeds, 691 00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:32,230 what you do, because what you say can easily 692 00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:35,510 influence and incite others. You use the term 693 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:38,990 incite and prompt others to resist. The same thing 694 00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:42,610 happened to Darien Tatour like just three, four 695 00:44:42,610 --> 00:44:45,130 years ago. Darien Tatour is a Palestinian poet who 696 00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:49,450 was sent to prison by Israel for writing poetry. 697 00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:54,490 Again, under the fake accusation of incitement. 698 00:44:55,210 --> 00:44:58,450 And she spent a lot of time in prison, and she 699 00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:03,070 remained for a long time under house arrest. If 700 00:45:03,070 --> 00:45:05,970 this doesn't show us how significant poetry is, I 701 00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:08,390 don't know what does. 702 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:13,250 Now going back to our friends here, Wordsworth and 703 00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:17,900 Shiree. Many of you like Chile, listen you could 704 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:21,240 like something in the poet and not like something 705 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,540 else. Again I don't talk about the poet as the 706 00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:25,640 man, I talk about what they say, his poetry. You 707 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,020 could like this poem but not that poem and that's 708 00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:33,250 okay. Now Wordsworth is accused by many people as 709 00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:36,950 the poet, an escapist poet. Some people would make 710 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:39,250 fun of him and accuse him of being a tree hugger, 711 00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:41,930 you know, he would just be leaving the sins and 712 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:44,590 the corruptions of the city and you know all the 713 00:45:44,590 --> 00:45:48,830 social and political decay behind and just close 714 00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:51,990 your eyes. Imagine in the past when you were a 715 00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:55,610 child and life was good. Life was innocent. Life 716 00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:58,810 was beautiful. Or leave everything behind and go 717 00:45:58,810 --> 00:46:02,830 to nature, to the bosom of nature and just do it. 718 00:46:04,510 --> 00:46:06,990 I find this unfair sometimes. 719 00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:12,390 Three-hugger is too much, I shouldn't be using 720 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:15,690 this, but I could say that he's an escapist. Some 721 00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:18,630 radicals might even accuse him of being complicit, 722 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:21,030 because if you're silent, you know the sentence, 723 00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:24,050 the statement, if you're silent in times of 724 00:46:24,050 --> 00:46:28,040 injustice, you're complicit. Especially if you're 725 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,840 special, if you're a poet, you should be speaking 726 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,160 out loud, loud and clear against injustices, like 727 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,180 we've seen with William Blake. But again, that's 728 00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:41,400 the difference. William Blake was a Londoner. Now, 729 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,580 for many people, the fact that William Wordsworth 730 00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:48,360 was calling for some kind of revolution in poetry 731 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,260 and words and language is enough. Because for 732 00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:55,700 them, without Wordsworth, we wouldn't have had 733 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:59,860 Chile. He paved the way, he started it. It was 734 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,040 Wordsworth, it was Coleridge who started this 735 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,400 whole great movement of radical change in terms of 736 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,820 language and poetry and also in terms of ideas and 737 00:47:09,820 --> 00:47:12,680 probably political ideas. And by the way, during 738 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,010 his lifetime, There were many files that were 739 00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:18,210 declassified later on. You know, we're talking 740 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:20,710 about the times and age of revolutions, the 741 00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:22,170 American Revolution, the Industrial Revolution, 742 00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:24,350 but also the French Revolution. And England was 743 00:47:24,350 --> 00:47:27,610 like literally shaking because they were afraid 744 00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:30,430 another revolution is going to take care in 745 00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:34,610 England, to take place in England. So the British 746 00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:37,750 intelligence was spying on both Wordsworth and 747 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:42,370 Coleridge. And they were like, you can look up the 748 00:47:42,370 --> 00:47:44,710 information and the reports those spies were 749 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:47,450 writing about Korea. And I don't know, I don't 750 00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:49,990 know how they reacted when they were like, oh my 751 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:52,290 God, those people keep going to Lake District and 752 00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:54,110 staying in this cottage. I'm not sure what they're 753 00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:57,830 planning, what they're going to do. So they would 754 00:47:57,830 --> 00:48:01,350 be sending somebody to listen and, I don't know, 755 00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:04,310 Wordsworth would be saying, I wandered lonely as a 756 00:48:04,310 --> 00:48:07,530 cloud. And if he, was he this, was this man or the 757 00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,690 intelligence, like, were they trying to decipher 758 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:14,790 this, to, you know, to decode it? Is this a symbol 759 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:17,210 of something? I wandered lonely as what? Is this, 760 00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:21,070 does this, I don't know. But this is something 761 00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:24,750 else. So you could criticize Wordsworth for not 762 00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:29,750 being at least as radical as we want a poet to be, 763 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,130 but don't forget what he did in itself was a 764 00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:36,010 revolution, a revolution that changed people's 765 00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:38,930 mentalities and people's sensibilities and 766 00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:40,810 people's way of viewing the world, of writing 767 00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:44,850 about the world. But Chile is a different man. 768 00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:49,470 Chile was openly, and by the way, what we like 769 00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:51,110 about Chile is something that many people don't 770 00:48:51,110 --> 00:48:53,690 like about Chile. They say he was clear, he was 771 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:57,570 open. So he was like a political preacher saying 772 00:48:57,570 --> 00:49:02,710 us, okay rise, go start up a revolution. I don't 773 00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:05,890 think this is a very simplistic view of Chile. But 774 00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:09,230 Chile, in many of his poems, was openly calling 775 00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:12,390 for a revolution, to rise up. And I'm quoting 776 00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:15,970 something here just for the sake of... In the 777 00:49:15,970 --> 00:49:18,670 films of poetry, and I say by Chile, he says, 778 00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:20,770 poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the 779 00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:23,110 world. They are the law, you know, members of the 780 00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:26,510 parliament, the lawmakers, that's legislators. The 781 00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:29,470 legislative council here, Palestinian Legislative 782 00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:33,220 Council. So poets, They are the leaders, they are 783 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,420 the lawmakers of the society, but they are 784 00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:38,760 unofficial. And also it was him who criticized, 785 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,860 harshly criticized the society, the British 786 00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:43,420 society as being a society where the rich get 787 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:48,970 richer and the poor get poorer. And all to the 788 00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:53,570 west wind. I'm just taking extracts here. Look at 789 00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:56,230 how he says destroy, he's calling for change, 790 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:58,910 destroyer and preserver. This is the wind, the 791 00:49:58,910 --> 00:50:01,090 wind of change, I don't know, revolution. It 792 00:50:01,090 --> 00:50:04,650 destroys, but it should also, it destroys to 793 00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:12,290 build. Here or here. He's also here, drive my dead 794 00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:17,540 thoughts to quicken a new birth. And also if you 795 00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:21,200 look there in the bottom here, the trumpet of a 796 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,940 prophecy, oh wind, if winter comes, can spring be 797 00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:30,910 far behind? If winter comes, can spring be far 798 00:50:30,910 --> 00:50:33,150 behind? In The Mask of Anarchy, I mentioned 799 00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:36,070 earlier about the massacre of Manchester when the 800 00:50:36,070 --> 00:50:39,470 British police shot dead many protesters. Again, 801 00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:41,970 that's a very beautiful long poem where he openly 802 00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:43,930 calls for this. And this is again beautiful. I 803 00:50:43,930 --> 00:50:46,910 don't know why some people just don't like Chile 804 00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:51,700 for being very obvious. Men of England, heirs of 805 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:55,840 glory Heroes of unwritten story Nurslings of one 806 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,720 mighty mother Hopes of hair and one another Rise 807 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,920 like lions after slumber Wake up like lions when 808 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,820 they wake up after sleep Slumber is sleep You know 809 00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:10,900 slumber party when you go to somebody's place and 810 00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,920 have fun and sleep there Rise like lions after 811 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,660 slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains 812 00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:24,420 to earth like dew, which in sleep had fallen on 813 00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:30,060 you. Ye are many, they are few. People are many, 814 00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:31,980 the police are few. 815 00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:38,700 Okay, before I go back to Ozymandias, I want you 816 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,820 to say something if you have to say something, 817 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,400 please. Comment on something. Comment on what I 818 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,060 said. Probably we can have time for that, for 819 00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:54,780 parodies. Please. Describing William Myers' work 820 00:51:54,780 --> 00:52:00,240 as being not a Londoner as a play, this reminds me 821 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:05,760 of the poet that said, I think that this Arab 822 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,940 poet, he tried to... He's an outsider, you mean? 823 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,680 Exactly. Maybe these two can be related. Yes, we 824 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,200 do not accept this, but we accept this. 825 00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:20,330 If you are an outsider, you don't feel, but again, 826 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:25,430 you are a poet, you have to be special. Even if 827 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:27,890 you're not there, you have, even Wordsworth said 828 00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:32,490 this, the extra comprehensive sensibility that 829 00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:35,570 poets own that other people don't. And it doesn't 830 00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:38,170 mean he didn't know what was going on in London 831 00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:44,630 and around the UK at that time. Please. Actually, 832 00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:49,390 I love both Wordsworth and Shelley, and at least 833 00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:53,490 people call Wordsworth an escapist, but at least 834 00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:56,070 Wordsworth as a man was true to himself, he didn't 835 00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:58,410 pretend to be something he was not. Is Shelley 836 00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:02,990 pretending something he was not? Shelly had so 837 00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:07,690 many ideas that he expressed in his poetry, but as 838 00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:14,570 a person, he never put them into action. Do you 839 00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:17,670 know that the second generation of the Romantics 840 00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:20,990 were very young, even died young? Chile and Keats 841 00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:25,330 and Byron, all of them. They were jinxed. And you 842 00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:30,270 might not know this. When Wordsworth and Coleridge 843 00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:32,710 were writing poetry, they were not born yet. They 844 00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:35,230 were born, they wrote poetry, they died, and 845 00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:39,270 Wordsworth didn't want to die. He became like this 846 00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:42,030 patriarchal figure. Please read what Byron says 847 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,130 about Wordsworth and Coleridge. 848 00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:48,870 He attacks them openly in his poetry. 849 00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:09,320 You know who's which romantic poet was More active 850 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,180 in his life than others than just being a romantic 851 00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:18,290 and lying there Do you know it was Byron? Byron 852 00:54:18,290 --> 00:54:20,170 was always a fighter. He was fighting against the 853 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:23,230 Ottoman Empire somewhere in Cyprus, I guess. 854 00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:32,530 Chile was rich. Chile was also rich. Chile was 855 00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:37,980 rich. Okay, so three years ago, three years ago, 856 00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:41,560 you know, when we talk about Ozymandias, going 857 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,520 back to Ozymandias and Ramses II, when we talk 858 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,180 about pharaohs in Egypt, those great pharaohs had 859 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:53,180 many statues for them, just not one. So the poem 860 00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:56,760 talks about one of these things. And I found this, 861 00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:05,340 Like this is very moving. Like the statue of 862 00:55:05,340 --> 00:55:09,660 Ozymandias, Ramses II, in many ways like 863 00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:12,160 described, I'm not sure if he was talking about 864 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,420 this very one or something else, but look at this. 865 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,940 Ozymandias, king of kings. Look on my works 866 00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:25,440 submerged in sewage and despair or not. Okay, look 867 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:31,460 at how Wow. Imagine yourself 5,000 years ago 868 00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:36,260 stepping on there, climbing and stepping on this 869 00:55:36,260 --> 00:55:40,880 man's. It is huge. Yeah, of course. Now this is in 870 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,720 reality the man. 871 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:49,180 Remember the text says the hand, the thread, and 872 00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:54,040 the heart, that something, and how this sculptor 873 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,580 will read these passions. 874 00:55:59,030 --> 00:56:02,050 So the traveler was telling the speaker and the 875 00:56:02,050 --> 00:56:05,410 poet, the poet, that the sculpture is a perfect 876 00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:08,870 representation of? Of Ozymandias. Of Ozymandias. 877 00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:11,530 It's perfect. But look at this. This is really 878 00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:13,770 like in many ways very symmetrical, very well 879 00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:17,350 engineered, very well done, right? It's perfect. 880 00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:20,170 Look at the eyes, the ears, the nose. Very 881 00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,950 symmetrical. Everything is perfect. Where's the 882 00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:25,350 crown? Maybe some, some, some other 883 00:56:29,170 --> 00:56:33,810 This is Stone Cold. In reality, this is 884 00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:35,790 Ozymandias. I love this because this is some kind 885 00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:38,530 of reconstruction. This is his mummy. I don't 886 00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:41,510 think this in any way is similar to this. 887 00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:50,150 He was one of the greatest pharaohs in ancient 888 00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:50,930 Egyptian history. 889 00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:57,250 I don't know what this brings to mind other than 890 00:56:57,250 --> 00:56:57,670 nightmares. 891 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:06,160 But in no way this looks like this Probably it's 892 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:13,940 similar in a bit in a way I don't know And 893 00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:22,560 then this one Compare the almost real picture to 894 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:28,590 the sculpture I'll come back to this in a bit. Now 895 00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:30,750 going back to the text so we can wrap things up. 896 00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:33,210 Remember I told you this is a, we mentioned this 897 00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:36,590 in passing, but I want to repeat things so we have 898 00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:37,410 confirmation. 899 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,920 I said that this could be read in many ways. There 900 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,180 is an American critic, M.H. Abrams, who drew this. 901 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400 He said there are four main categories. Almost all 902 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,200 literary theories can be categorized under these 903 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,620 four parts. But he doesn't draw a square, he does 904 00:57:57,620 --> 00:58:00,780 a triangle. He says there are theories that 905 00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:02,700 examine the text, the relationship between the 906 00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,590 text and the world, the universe. There are 907 00:58:05,590 --> 00:58:08,090 theories that examine the relationship between the 908 00:58:08,090 --> 00:58:13,510 text and the writer, the poet. Expressive, this is 909 00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:16,770 mimetic theories, you know, my missus is my 910 00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:23,590 missus. This is expressive theories. And there are 911 00:58:23,590 --> 00:58:25,690 theories that study the relationship between the 912 00:58:25,690 --> 00:58:31,630 text and the reader, the audience. What is the 913 00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:36,250 fourth category? Thank you very much. The theories 914 00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:39,030 that examine the text, the relationship, like what 915 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:43,790 we have, the words on the page. We are involved in 916 00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:47,010 a process of close reading of the text. This is M 917 00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:51,290 .H. Abrams, mimetic theories, the relationship 918 00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:53,350 between the text and the world, the universe, how 919 00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:56,210 close the representation is. And then the 920 00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:59,370 expressive theories, basically the romantic theory 921 00:58:59,370 --> 00:59:03,040 here, how poetry is self-expression. and how the 922 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,020 poet and the poem are one, inseparable. And then 923 00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:09,480 the pragmatic theories, the didactic theories, 924 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,420 where poetry is written to teach and delight. So 925 00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:15,060 you examine the relationship between, you examine 926 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:18,540 the impact the text has on the reader, the 927 00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:20,520 audience. And then finally, the objective 928 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,840 theories, usually this is 20th century theories, 929 00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:26,920 like new criticism and even structuralism, 930 00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,360 formalism, and deconstruction, et cetera. 931 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,720 Objective theories, They say the text is self 932 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,300 -enclosed, autonomous, independent of the 933 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,820 surrounding, even the social circumstances and the 934 00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:44,940 life of the author. The meaning of the text is in 935 00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:48,040 the text. All you need to do is to look at the 936 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,580 words on the page, to do a close reading, to 937 00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:53,200 examine the form, the shape, the structure, the 938 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,160 language, the literary devices, the ironies, the 939 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,300 puns, the ambiguity, the paradoxes, and if you 940 00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:01,120 understand this, if you see the binary opposites, 941 01:00:01,180 --> 01:00:02,960 you get the tension, you understand the poem. 942 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,180 Okay? So if we go back to the text, like we did 943 01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:14,160 last time, New criticism, new critic, this is what 944 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200 we usually do. We focus more on what the text 945 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,740 tells us without the, so this thing, remember we 946 01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:25,640 said that the sonnet here, the poem is a sonnet. 947 01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:31,000 We describe this sonnet as, thank you very much, 948 01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:35,100 some kind of a formless sonnet in the sense that 949 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:38,060 it doesn't have a regular rhyme scheme. 950 01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:44,090 Even the rhyme scheme itself here has like three 951 01:00:44,090 --> 01:00:47,750 imperfect rhymes. It doesn't have clear structure 952 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:53,310 in terms of octaves, sextets, couplets. You don't 953 01:00:53,310 --> 01:00:57,070 know where things go, where things end. Now 954 01:00:57,070 --> 01:01:01,670 usually we need to make this observation for us to 955 01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:04,330 ask a very significant question. Why is this? In 956 01:01:04,330 --> 01:01:09,150 order to look for the meaning. Why is this there? 957 01:01:12,930 --> 01:01:16,810 Why does the poet not follow Shakespeare or 958 01:01:16,810 --> 01:01:19,750 Petrarch? This is the kind of question I would be 959 01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:22,690 asking you in your exams. You should be aware of 960 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:26,650 that. So I might ask you, why doesn't Chalet 961 01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:33,810 follow the Shakespearean sonnet or the Petrarchan 962 01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:37,900 sonnet or both? I could be more specific. In this 963 01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:39,920 case, this question is a little bit general. I 964 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,500 want you to zoom in for the specific point. I want 965 01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:44,380 you to start the answer, your topic sentence 966 01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:49,440 saying that Shelley uses a formless and irregular 967 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,200 sonnet. First, you need to show me where it is, 968 01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:58,220 why, how it is irregular. And second, you need to 969 01:01:58,220 --> 01:02:02,940 connect this with the theme of the topic. So in 970 01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:05,780 many ways, what do we have inside the poem? What 971 01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:09,680 we have inside the poem is ruins, remains, wreck, 972 01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:13,420 right? We have something that's shattered and 973 01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:17,200 broken. We have the remains of something. So in 974 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,410 many ways, I see that he is echoing this. He's 975 01:02:21,410 --> 01:02:24,390 echoing this as if he's saying we don't Arabs, 976 01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:29,570 Africans, we don't deserve a perfect sonnet. 977 01:02:30,410 --> 01:02:33,310 So when the poem is about decline of authority, 978 01:02:33,470 --> 01:02:36,950 decline of about the, I usually like to use this 979 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:40,410 term because there is less, trunkless, lifeless, 980 01:02:40,570 --> 01:02:43,310 three lesses, right? And boundless, and also 981 01:02:43,310 --> 01:02:48,310 rhymeless, formless, so it's about less, lessness. 982 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,760 about decay, about destructiveness, about 983 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,920 transience of time. This is a romantic theme in 984 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,400 many ways. 985 01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:02,300 The second thing we need to look at is, we 986 01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,140 mentioned the rhymes, sorry, the puns here, the 987 01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:09,400 possible puns in lies. The shuttered visage, lies. 988 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,540 Lies there is sitting there, lying around, but 989 01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:16,160 also lies not telling the truth. So the facial 990 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440 expressions are lying to us. And also mock which 991 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,780 has two meanings, mock to imitate, to copy and 992 01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,540 mock to ridicule, to make fun of. But look at how 993 01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:29,960 beautiful this is, how this changes because time 994 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,600 changes. At that time mock meant only mock 995 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,970 imitate. He imitated the facial expressions, these 996 01:03:36,970 --> 01:03:40,350 passions perfectly. But now that it is broken, 997 01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:45,410 destroyed, shattered, half sunk and nothing but 998 01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:48,670 decay and desert and sands around, this means 999 01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:52,920 mocking may make fun, make fun of. Now the most 1000 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,360 significant thing, probably one of the most 1001 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,160 significant ironies in English poetry is, my name 1002 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,040 is Isamandias, king of kings. Look on my works, ye 1003 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,300 mighty and ye and. When we look, what do we find? 1004 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,600 It's ironic because it says, I am king of kings, 1005 01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,560 but in reality, look at him. He's no king, he's 1006 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,540 nothing. Even the greatest of us will die also. 1007 01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:19,250 But I also want you to think of how now, for 1008 01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:22,790 example, when all sculptures have been fixed and 1009 01:04:22,790 --> 01:04:27,630 rebuilt by scientists in the past century. So it 1010 01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:31,630 was all standing and powerful and then it was 1011 01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:35,230 destroyed and now it's going back to. So I think 1012 01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:38,810 this changes the way we react to this. Imagine 1013 01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:41,870 yourself living in the time of Ozymandias and 1014 01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:45,600 passing by this. you would be shaking, right? 1015 01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:48,840 You'd be like, oh, because it is intimidating. 1016 01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:53,500 This was a sign he's even calling us to despair. 1017 01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:58,460 Not his 1018 01:04:58,460 --> 01:05:01,400 people, the mighty, like some suggested that this 1019 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,780 could be a call for the enemies, look, you can't 1020 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,100 defeat us, which changes many things about him. 1021 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,580 Now, both the irony and the puns create ambiguity. 1022 01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:16,110 Create a paradox here. Does he mean this? Does he 1023 01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,550 mean that? What does it mean? Does it mean lying? 1024 01:05:18,770 --> 01:05:20,230 Does it mean just sitting there? 1025 01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:26,330 Now analyzing this is what a new critic would be 1026 01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:27,210 doing. 1027 01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:32,250 Remember we said post-colonialism with Edward 1028 01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:38,130 Said, another post-colonial would be interested on 1029 01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:42,470 how the text is constructing the idea, the image 1030 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:47,050 of the other, us. People of the Middle East, Asia, 1031 01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:51,150 and Africa, and India, and probably the Caribbean, 1032 01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:53,790 South America, like people who are not European, 1033 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:56,830 white, et cetera. I love this statement by Edward 1034 01:05:56,830 --> 01:06:01,130 Said from Orientalism. The Orient, us, shock, has 1035 01:06:01,130 --> 01:06:04,370 helped to define Europe or the West as its 1036 01:06:05,710 --> 01:06:07,830 contrasting image. We always want something to 1037 01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,850 compare to so we understand where we're lying. 1038 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,320 Contrasting image, idea, personality, experience, 1039 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,280 et cetera. So we were significant because if we 1040 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,700 are backward, they are advanced. If we are 1041 01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:22,720 inferior, they are superior. If we are savages, 1042 01:06:22,860 --> 01:06:26,100 uncivilized, they are civilized. And there's this 1043 01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:30,220 thing about the white man, the moral obligation to 1044 01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:32,720 come here and to civilize us. Yes, to take all our 1045 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,060 gold and raw materials and everything, but it's 1046 01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:38,400 their job to come. It's their moral obligation to 1047 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,010 come and to civilize us. So Edward Said would be 1048 01:06:42,010 --> 01:06:44,710 questioning how he's constructing this idea, this 1049 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:46,570 negative idea about the Middle East, leaving 1050 01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:50,010 everything and focusing on how the sand, the 1051 01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:52,530 desert, the antique, the shattered, how he 1052 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:56,150 presents Arabs as or Africans as people who weep 1053 01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:59,010 over the spilled milk. We are invested in the 1054 01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,310 past. We're not invested in the present or even in 1055 01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:05,870 the future. I also find two things interesting. 1056 01:07:07,220 --> 01:07:10,620 How did this traveler get there? We don't know. 1057 01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,660 We're not told. How did he understand the 1058 01:07:13,660 --> 01:07:16,720 inscription written in ancient Egyptian language? 1059 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,560 My assumption is that there must be a guide and a 1060 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,240 translator or one person who did this thing. But 1061 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,980 what is he doing to them, to the locals? He's 1062 01:07:26,980 --> 01:07:30,270 erasing them. They don't exist. They don't exist, 1063 01:07:30,370 --> 01:07:34,570 exactly like what Zionist poetry literature did to 1064 01:07:34,570 --> 01:07:36,750 Palestine and Palestinians. Palestinians never 1065 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:39,690 existed. It's a land without a people waiting for 1066 01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:41,690 a people without a land. And when Palestinians 1067 01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:45,270 exist there, they're savages. They're uncivilized. 1068 01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:49,150 And I also find it interesting because I'm sure 1069 01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:52,250 some of you want to be translators. Sadly, 1070 01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,550 translators don't take a lot of credit. They're 1071 01:07:54,550 --> 01:07:57,050 usually erased. If you do a great job, usually 1072 01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:59,810 people don't care about you. If you just make one 1073 01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:03,350 tiny little mistake, you have to pay for that. 1074 01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:10,150 Okay, look at the feminist reading here. And this 1075 01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:15,460 can be seen as overstretching by some of you. Now 1076 01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:18,260 there's this book I'm taking this from that says 1077 01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:24,340 women have been traditionally taught to read as 1078 01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:28,480 men. And I find this very interesting because 1079 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:32,080 every class, you yourselves, when I asked you 1080 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,200 about the people last time, you spoke about the 1081 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,720 traveler, the sculptor, and the poet as he, he, 1082 01:08:36,820 --> 01:08:39,200 he. So you assume that these are all men. So women 1083 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,250 are erased. There are no women. Some of you might 1084 01:08:42,250 --> 01:08:44,790 say, but does that mean this is anti-feminism or 1085 01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:47,730 women are underrepresented? It does. Imagine a 1086 01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:50,990 text, if the text has seven characters, seven 1087 01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:52,670 people and all the people are women, the first 1088 01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:55,050 question people will ask, why are all the women? 1089 01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:57,810 Why don't we ask the same question about texts 1090 01:08:57,810 --> 01:09:02,790 that is overwhelmed, dominated by men? because we 1091 01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:06,070 are trained sadly to read as men. We should change 1092 01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:09,730 this. So women should begin to liberate themselves 1093 01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:12,650 from the notion of universal reader because the 1094 01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:15,790 universal reader is usually assumed to be a man. 1095 01:09:16,090 --> 01:09:18,970 So how might reading as a woman be different? You 1096 01:09:18,970 --> 01:09:22,150 will pay attention to things. You will look at 1097 01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:25,570 this as something that is a world dominated by 1098 01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:28,930 men, that women have no place here. It doesn't 1099 01:09:28,930 --> 01:09:30,710 mean Chile is anti-feminist, that's another 1100 01:09:30,710 --> 01:09:33,730 question, you need to examine more poems to judge 1101 01:09:33,730 --> 01:09:37,970 this. But it could be Chile saying something else, 1102 01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:42,990 something different, like how A society, how he 1103 01:09:42,990 --> 01:09:48,010 is, how Ozymanias symbolizes patriarchy. The man 1104 01:09:48,010 --> 01:09:51,570 -made rules, the man-controlled society. How men 1105 01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:54,070 control everything and that's the end of, this is 1106 01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:57,450 where men lead us to. To decay, to arrogance, to 1107 01:09:57,450 --> 01:10:00,610 hubris, to weeping over spilt milk, over the past. 1108 01:10:01,030 --> 01:10:03,790 And it's time for women to take place, to do 1109 01:10:03,790 --> 01:10:07,030 something, to change this. Think about this, you 1110 01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:09,030 don't have to agree with me, with this reading, 1111 01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:11,590 but think about this, because there's this, always 1112 01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:14,310 please, think about how we have always been 1113 01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:17,090 trained and even most of you here, if you paid 1114 01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:19,790 attention, when you talk about the poet, you say 1115 01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:22,410 he, even when some of you talk about the reader, 1116 01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:26,120 you say he. Why would you assume that the reader 1117 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:32,880 is a he? The poet is a he. Okay, so I'll stop 1118 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,720 here, but before if you have any question, any 1119 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,620 point to raise, please do. Okay, thank you very 1120 01:10:39,620 --> 01:10:42,160 much. If you have a question, you can stay behind 1121 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,140 or you can rush back to your other classes.