{"text":"fullness and the richness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"centerless beingness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"location three or possibly layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"its like things are appearing in it its like its like the water in the pool but without the the edges of the pool the waters just there","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"you know when that goes it sort of it collapses it basically its the collapse of it its its what happens just before in a way that that a deeper sense of spaciousness and then the collapse or deeper sense of stillness and then the collapse of the whole you know layer three thing basically","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"and id say like the joy maybe not as much the compassion but really that it was like the joy kept coming out","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"you know how you describe layer two which is more like that field of nothingness the spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"beyond an experience of being or beingness","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"im not sure how successful that will be because my spreadsheet mainly has where people are at not oh they were wrong about the fact that they werent in layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"youve got a really strong rooting of identity into layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"layers one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"sense of peace","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"if i sit and just kind of zoom zoom out um i do feel something like i would describe it as a mist an invisible mist but its everywhere right and if i if i place my awareness on it i can draw that warmth into myself","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"theres a feeling of a deeper and deeper stillness where theyre seeing theres no one and nothing but the eyes can be open then to see that also it maintains itself","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"illumination","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"i would mean that youve already described youve experienced the benefits of layer two to deconditioning and that is something youve you know highlighted as being important to you and something youre working on","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"layer three type of more location three ish type of layer three type experience right","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"but from a location to perspective and especially a layer three perspective things like that make perfect sense when youre glimpsing in to layer four","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"spacious","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"its harder to get distance from feelings from from emotions from thoughts and that layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"as the phone is gone you now your stomach again its just like are you the body you know and all im trying to do is see if there is some actual fluidity here of identity or if generally speaking youre rooted in you know layer three and all of this other stuff is being experienced through it and i actually view the sinuses and the nervousness and all of that as a great benefit to have in this session because its kind of an extreme of sorts and so if you still have the fullness during those then we can say pretty confidently okay youre probably pretty well rooted in the fullness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"experiences of layer two um you get the the spaciousness and you also get a sense of emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"you know that control structure i think really has to be gone in order for you to which is another reason i think you know you have to its sort of location two layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"beauty","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"awareness become very thick and almost like a liquid","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer three is not absent from your system its in your experience in this moment but its qualities arent easily being discerned because your attention isnt used to you know discerning it out of you know the whole sphere of experience that is this moment","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"what im thinking im thinking the aliveness of of the sensation that accompanies thinking into layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"layer three and location three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"so you know you said that layer three maybe sounded interesting","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"that which is aware of the space and the presence and the stuckness like kind of all of them","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"i have experienced layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"what about emotion you know from a layer three perspective","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"very little thought of past or future","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"i wouldnt really work on layer two anymore or worry about layer two any more","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"you can just play with it for a bit and see like add it as something you can use for deconditioning and then spend the next session really deepening into the location three type direction of layer three and see if you can make that switch","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"im not sure if you meant every single layer of of layer four for example probably more just like what makes sense and you say for that i need to get to location for layer four","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"awareness have spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"so if it were like for instance location three layer two you know it would be a spacious emptiness mixed with the divine or the panpsychist presence or whatever which is kind of a distance from god you know kind of a separation in a way","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":" but when i got triggered especially i mean theres when when strong triggers present i i will kind of put back into layer one and and in which i will feel thoughts are very real the problems are very real","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"when you just upset at it it does a little bit like it didnt at first and that question sort of made it feel there was a connection or merge","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"oh no thats persisted since in april its every time ive you know paused to look you know its just a persistent","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"problem solver","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"was almost a trigger","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"like it just appears in the whole space versus coming from me or from the center","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"i was just watching flowers and just looking at the patterns and just like in awe and wonder of the of the patterns and the richness and vividness of color and yeah life just life in general just feels more rich and full and exciting here","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"everythings here","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"its possible so the term presence could you know people can very much use that for layer two that term is very generic in some ways definitely has the most resonance with layer three but layer two can be described that way and the way youre describing it you know it being everything and containing everything or everything being within it showing up within it is more a layer two type of description","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"so you cant stay in location two but youre not able to access the depth of a layout to possibly and certainly layer three that youre able to with your eyes closed","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"everything is showing up sort of out there in a way","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"and does the vast stillness have any quality that you would describe as spacious or um empty","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"really just the benefits of what can be reconditioned stuff that i i guess really just blacked out or maybe just lives in in that location three zone that just right now because even right now i can feel what its sort of this slight deadness like its like just blacked out but in location three if it would come up it wouldnt have to be blocked like even the block itself of location two seems to be some sort of i dont know the thing that ive put in or some shield some protective thing that but it feels very subtle or it feels like its literally infused with the actual feeling of vocation to layer three but being in three three that that feeling itself was like i dont really need that necessarily","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"for example if this if i forget to pay attention i might go with the feeling and thoughts for for some time but but once i pay attention i can quickly go back to later two so","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"its like its like im kind of feeling the room that im in for example like literally actually kind of feeling it and theres a sense of ease and and the liveness and and also you know if i relax my perception ive been able to do this for ten 15 years one day it just happened in a moment you know if i relax my perception it feels like im seeing waves of energy so in the room and kind of just perceiving that around people or just you know just looking straight ahead um so i feel like on different levels perceptually im kind of picking up on things there as well and that doesnt feel empty it feels quite full in that sense yeah","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"worry","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"fullness to experience","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"sometimes a spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"as long as you retain the ability to zoom in and","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"everybodys frozen","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"so you do get a sense of spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"its localized","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"if you think of where youre at if youre a layer two your dominant experience of spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"the layer three center is way more significant from a fundamental wellbeing standpoint","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"sense of spacious emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"those are really not as real as this","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"life within everything","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"beingness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"looking like boundless space from behind to front","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"viewing and accessing layer one with just you know some subtle differences and preferences between those in terms of the lives","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"location two layer three because a lot of the stuff there has been seen through and you know you sort of reconstituting parts of the individualized sense of self bringing agency back in","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"sense of of presence","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"that can be a very useful place to try if youre working with conditioning at layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"fluid or experiencing one layer","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"zero interest in meaning or purpose","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"weve heard bliss weve heard pure bliss weve heard pure joy","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"most of the time grounded pretty solidly there across a good range of it including into experiencing layer three which is fantastic","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"very mind oriented","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"being alive","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"experience of the spaciousness but its still relatively shallow because your identity isnt generally speaking really shifting into that","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"sense of agency is still so unusual","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"that sounds very layer two ish so you have diagnosed yourself well on that one","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"i think it also sounds to me very likely we can dig into it a little bit more but it also sounds to me very likely like you are experiencing layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"layer one and location two","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"and then i was thinking maybe my layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"and i did have 1 or 2 experiences of where everything was totally flat and when i looked and thought oh i recognize you but it was gone then the next minute but um i knew based on what you guys had said that thats something that can can happen and i did i did ayahuasca a few years back oldest person there but did have the experience of the luminosity and i also had the experience of a tree talking to me so based on on that i use that sometimes as a thread to go back to that luminosity to start","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"its almost like theres no top quarter of the head","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"fullness that permeates everything","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"ive always thought i was moving deeper into layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"definitely a sense of spaciousness and stillness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"mind is very quiet","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"layer three in there or some fluidity","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer three is prominent with fluidity to layers one and two","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"wonder","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"richness details significance and and just relevance","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"like im actually experiencing some of that right now im experiencing some of that anxiety right now i feel it like theres some sort of its like a performance anxiety kind of thing","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"see objects","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"it s easy as well to go to location to layer two basically","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"you know spaciousness mentioned in relation to to layer two","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"fluidity into layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"the richness that appears when you experience the eucharist or sink into those experiences you also have those dimensions of layer three to sink into","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"that was a very low kind of stillness thing in terms of vibrational frequency of the stillness and stuff from my standpoint you know and then and then you know very early on like when i asked you to focus on fullness it was like just cranking up the dial to like a high frequency higher frequency stillness in an unusual way for me to perceive such that it just really stood out i was like oh wow this is this is going to be a stillness thing","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"the layer to i guess thats still presents just the more spacious presence","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"emptiness or the flatness and the spaciousness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"feel a sense of presence","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"vastness to the point of actually a little dreariness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"like theres just a presence","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"although a soulless version of a dark night of the soul the soul word doesnt make a lot of sense to them um and so there are these there are such significant changes identity wise for you in that leap from layer three to layer four location four","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"spaciousness sounds more accessible than emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"its actually like a mona lisa smile its like a little tiny smile its you know and so i think for that theres at least layer three where theres a warmth in the system but its never personal","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"the thing to keep in mind is that for a system for a layer four location four especially but youre sort of close enough you know youre like a hair away from the thing type system what reading those books will do is basically prime you basically primes the system","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"blank space","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"field of awareness disappears","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"i think maybe skip straight straight to the sense of fullness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"id say it is infused with the layer three experience that im having if i if i look into it its yes that sense of self is in its in the field its like its like almost i dont know if it contains the field um","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer three of location two","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"gravity of silence tends to preclude thinking","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"but just like waking up in the morning its its very much mind content mostly around you know work or planning not a lot of like rumination or fear based thoughts but still a lot of content and being fairly embedded in the content still not like prior to transitioning which is like a huge difference but","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"sense of fullness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"remember from the content that there a strong link oftentimes between layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"certainly if youre in layer one all the time there wont be as you know it wont be very dominant in your experience by comparison","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"regarding the layer three experiences what youve described thus far is primarily affect so its like emotion related to what can be related to layer three particularly if its like very impersonal forms of love joy compassion um those types of experiences","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"that can be useful to give you a sense of what to sink into um and yeah totally if you think you had a sense of union there at that retreat then when youre working with layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"now after someone is more invested and sort of centered in layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"awareness knowingness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"you could have just as dominant an experience of mental activity if you really got shallow into layer one but you wouldnt suddenly feel like theres something in your head or behind your eyes thats looking out your eyes and stuff is out there and youre in here and its distinct and separate","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"you can just feel the aliveness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer two and feel emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"would you say that you know this this absolute stillness that ive contacted would you say that is deep layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"so its not like spacious emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"fullness can feel very energized","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer three is difficult to get to","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":" the reason i pointed out is because i think because the self disappears the self that youre using as a reference point which is the personal self when you sink into layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"seer or a looker","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"radiance or fullness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"the mind it feels you know kind of much less noisy more quieter you know silent and still and some of those spacious","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"i was basically doing the layer three thing the whole drive while she was reading one of her stories to me","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"i seem to get stuck there just thinking just in my thoughts or emotions sometimes but whenever i stop and look for either emptiness or fullness i seem to find it so im not sure what that means exactly like which way am i coming from or or maybe im just in layer one and pretending to be in the other layers","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"beingness resonates more for me than presence","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"yeah its like identity is still remaining on the layer on layer one on the level of the mind but its kind of getting very immersed in this experience of emptiness and nothingness that its reacting to it like its sort of seeing its own emptiness or its own","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"and so its possible you have some degree of fluidity from some form of layer two sense of self to a more layer one sense of self","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"spaciousness or emptiness","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"i suspect you are probably you have probably touched upon layer four and location two for a while","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"it can sort of lock you more into a nondual type of layer threeish experience and even more strongly and move you more in the direction of layer four which is not really per se in the direction of location three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"all arising on its own","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"so again its a sense of its a sense of wellbeing in a way and it feels kind of blissful in a way like just comfortable sense of fullness and energy and this kind of sense of in appreciation tenderness that hard to really put a put words to it","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"just joyous","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"its obviously also good for accessing layer four","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"layer three feeling permeates through that um and i guess the very act of investigating it also shifts my experience of it in the moment","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"what we really looking for for layer three is that experience of an all pervading sense of fullness or presence the emotions like love or joy or compassion those are common ones that can show up in layer three more frequently and layer three than any other layer","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"layer two thing","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"layer three for sure","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"be having presence","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"very full and rich","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"and you the mind mental activity some personal sense of self that comes with that so so thats cool definitely you know youve identified that your your attention by default is you know focused to some extent at least on layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"sense of togetherness","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"then you start to experience layer three and that mystery starts to reveal itself","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"to layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"um your system isnt necessarily recognizing that what youre experiencing is an entirely different quality of self um of what you are because its kind of like oh well selfs gone","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"so we dont really spend time talking about the layer two center","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"looking through my eyes","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"it seems like sort of silence and stillness type of that sort of thing is central to everything that you talk about","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"or maybe it also is slightly experiencing it but not mostly in my conscious perception um but its so heavily infused with layer three that that muddies the waters","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"deeply aware","label":3,"label_text":"LAY4"}
{"text":"like layer one kind of zooms in and out and theres definitely still some some habits and some theres some avoidance protocols that are in place because theres things you dont you know thoughts have been problematic for","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"especially the more i talk and interact and engage thats usually the place that i speak from","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"you could say like layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"um and then because theres enough of the mind of the mind or layer one still active and still kind of youre still associated with it that its kind of like reacting to its own perception","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"it doesnt seem like that nothing has ever disappears","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"and layer three","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}
{"text":"you know you have a proclivity to bringing that in to second guessing everything to all of that of course thats you know heavily influenced in your layer one","label":0,"label_text":"LAY1"}
{"text":"along with the spaciousness mhm like in the room in the space","label":1,"label_text":"LAY2"}
{"text":"when we used words for it before we went to numbers we used awareness we called it the awareness layer","label":2,"label_text":"LAY3"}