dialog_text_list: Yeah.  I think it's hard though when you talk about, about families and, and raising children because ch-, I think children have a hard time understanding a middle ground.  I think they, uh, they need security and yet they, I don't know, I, from speaking from my children, the-, they aren't real flexible [laughter] when it comes to things like that.
h: SpeakerB thinks that children need to be flexible