h: University of Vermont is not  a good public school
dialog_text_list: So you have to go to a lesser engineering school.  We have a very good public school up here and a degree out there means a lot.  It's a very good school.  It's, it's University of Vermont.  Uh, we also have some two year college.  Well, there's a four year colleges.  They all have a pretty good reputation.  But, like you say, you,