{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kqza0","c_root_id_B":"g6ktsx3","created_at_utc_A":1601070003,"created_at_utc_B":1601071660,"score_A":158,"score_B":375,"human_ref_A":"Oh I have absolutely no answers for you but this made me smile so much and even let out a little chuckle haha! You are a good person for worrying but I do think your pal will be okay \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc","human_ref_B":"I lost it at 'probably its first time'","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1657.0,"score_ratio":2.3734177215}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6krqkv","c_root_id_B":"g6ktsx3","created_at_utc_A":1601070445,"created_at_utc_B":1601071660,"score_A":76,"score_B":375,"human_ref_A":"Fly like an eagle ....","human_ref_B":"I lost it at 'probably its first time'","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1215.0,"score_ratio":4.9342105263}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kqza0","c_root_id_B":"g6l8qbi","created_at_utc_A":1601070003,"created_at_utc_B":1601079653,"score_A":158,"score_B":255,"human_ref_A":"Oh I have absolutely no answers for you but this made me smile so much and even let out a little chuckle haha! You are a good person for worrying but I do think your pal will be okay \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc","human_ref_B":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9650.0,"score_ratio":1.6139240506}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6l8qbi","c_root_id_B":"g6l39i1","created_at_utc_A":1601079653,"created_at_utc_B":1601076262,"score_A":255,"score_B":106,"human_ref_A":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","human_ref_B":"\"Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" lmaoooo","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3391.0,"score_ratio":2.4056603774}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6l8qbi","c_root_id_B":"g6krqkv","created_at_utc_A":1601079653,"created_at_utc_B":1601070445,"score_A":255,"score_B":76,"human_ref_A":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","human_ref_B":"Fly like an eagle ....","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9208.0,"score_ratio":3.3552631579}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6l85bs","c_root_id_B":"g6l8qbi","created_at_utc_A":1601079280,"created_at_utc_B":1601079653,"score_A":34,"score_B":255,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I'm going to offer a different, more realistic outcome idea.  It really depends on where the seagull goes. If they went to the ocean maybe they'd be fine because they'd be away from predators, but whether or not they can float while extremely stoned, idk.  They definitely won't be able to fly. If they stay on land, there's a possibility they'd just chill out for a while, but that leaves them susceptible to predators.  And all that is if the THC isn't toxic to them in the first place the way it is with dogs\/cats.","human_ref_B":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":373.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6l8qbi","c_root_id_B":"g6kx2ys","created_at_utc_A":1601079653,"created_at_utc_B":1601073528,"score_A":255,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, so this might get removed... I would probably be more concerned about the chocolate in a brownie. Chocolate can make most animals sick and can even be fatal depending on doses. Hard to find info since most people don't keep seagulls as a pet, but according to google it seems a no no to feed chocolate to birds people keep as pets (such as parrots). How much an effect it would have on the bird would really depend on how big the brownie is and exactly how much chocolate and weed is inside it and also exactly how much the bird weighs. A bird is pretty small, so I would worry it could potentially OD the way some dogs and cats do if they get into edibles and chocolate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6125.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kwl7k","c_root_id_B":"g6l8qbi","created_at_utc_A":1601073292,"created_at_utc_B":1601079653,"score_A":22,"score_B":255,"human_ref_A":"This really made me laugh \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"The moment I reached \"clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" I lost it. I have legit tears from laughing so hard.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6361.0,"score_ratio":11.5909090909}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6krqkv","c_root_id_B":"g6l39i1","created_at_utc_A":1601070445,"created_at_utc_B":1601076262,"score_A":76,"score_B":106,"human_ref_A":"Fly like an eagle ....","human_ref_B":"\"Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" lmaoooo","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5817.0,"score_ratio":1.3947368421}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kx2ys","c_root_id_B":"g6l39i1","created_at_utc_A":1601073528,"created_at_utc_B":1601076262,"score_A":34,"score_B":106,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, so this might get removed... I would probably be more concerned about the chocolate in a brownie. Chocolate can make most animals sick and can even be fatal depending on doses. Hard to find info since most people don't keep seagulls as a pet, but according to google it seems a no no to feed chocolate to birds people keep as pets (such as parrots). How much an effect it would have on the bird would really depend on how big the brownie is and exactly how much chocolate and weed is inside it and also exactly how much the bird weighs. A bird is pretty small, so I would worry it could potentially OD the way some dogs and cats do if they get into edibles and chocolate.","human_ref_B":"\"Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" lmaoooo","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2734.0,"score_ratio":3.1176470588}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kwl7k","c_root_id_B":"g6l39i1","created_at_utc_A":1601073292,"created_at_utc_B":1601076262,"score_A":22,"score_B":106,"human_ref_A":"This really made me laugh \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"\"Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie\" lmaoooo","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2970.0,"score_ratio":4.8181818182}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6labkl","c_root_id_B":"g6l85bs","created_at_utc_A":1601080668,"created_at_utc_B":1601079280,"score_A":40,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Please, please, please let an actual vet weigh in on this!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I'm going to offer a different, more realistic outcome idea.  It really depends on where the seagull goes. If they went to the ocean maybe they'd be fine because they'd be away from predators, but whether or not they can float while extremely stoned, idk.  They definitely won't be able to fly. If they stay on land, there's a possibility they'd just chill out for a while, but that leaves them susceptible to predators.  And all that is if the THC isn't toxic to them in the first place the way it is with dogs\/cats.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1388.0,"score_ratio":1.1764705882}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kx2ys","c_root_id_B":"g6labkl","created_at_utc_A":1601073528,"created_at_utc_B":1601080668,"score_A":34,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, so this might get removed... I would probably be more concerned about the chocolate in a brownie. Chocolate can make most animals sick and can even be fatal depending on doses. Hard to find info since most people don't keep seagulls as a pet, but according to google it seems a no no to feed chocolate to birds people keep as pets (such as parrots). How much an effect it would have on the bird would really depend on how big the brownie is and exactly how much chocolate and weed is inside it and also exactly how much the bird weighs. A bird is pretty small, so I would worry it could potentially OD the way some dogs and cats do if they get into edibles and chocolate.","human_ref_B":"Please, please, please let an actual vet weigh in on this!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7140.0,"score_ratio":1.1764705882}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kwl7k","c_root_id_B":"g6labkl","created_at_utc_A":1601073292,"created_at_utc_B":1601080668,"score_A":22,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"This really made me laugh \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"Please, please, please let an actual vet weigh in on this!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7376.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kwl7k","c_root_id_B":"g6l85bs","created_at_utc_A":1601073292,"created_at_utc_B":1601079280,"score_A":22,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"This really made me laugh \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I'm going to offer a different, more realistic outcome idea.  It really depends on where the seagull goes. If they went to the ocean maybe they'd be fine because they'd be away from predators, but whether or not they can float while extremely stoned, idk.  They definitely won't be able to fly. If they stay on land, there's a possibility they'd just chill out for a while, but that leaves them susceptible to predators.  And all that is if the THC isn't toxic to them in the first place the way it is with dogs\/cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5988.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6kx2ys","c_root_id_B":"g6kwl7k","created_at_utc_A":1601073528,"created_at_utc_B":1601073292,"score_A":34,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, so this might get removed... I would probably be more concerned about the chocolate in a brownie. Chocolate can make most animals sick and can even be fatal depending on doses. Hard to find info since most people don't keep seagulls as a pet, but according to google it seems a no no to feed chocolate to birds people keep as pets (such as parrots). How much an effect it would have on the bird would really depend on how big the brownie is and exactly how much chocolate and weed is inside it and also exactly how much the bird weighs. A bird is pretty small, so I would worry it could potentially OD the way some dogs and cats do if they get into edibles and chocolate.","human_ref_B":"This really made me laugh \ud83d\ude02","labels":1,"seconds_difference":236.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"izobrt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Seagull ate weed brownie. Hypothetically, if I was minding my own business with a cannabis brownie in hand, and a seagull swooped down, took it, and pissed off into the sunset, what would happen to the seagull?  Information I'm supposed to be including:   Species: Seagull   \u2022 Age: 2\/3?   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: na   \u2022 Breed: Bird   \u2022 Body weight: na   \u2022 History: probably its first time   \u2022 Clinical signs: carrying a pot brownie   \u2022 Your general location: the coast","c_root_id_A":"g6lzarp","c_root_id_B":"g6llo9t","created_at_utc_A":1601090432,"created_at_utc_B":1601086135,"score_A":18,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Bird will probably live, but is gonna have a real bad time. Luckily seagulls can vomit.","human_ref_B":"Lmao @ the info","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4297.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g247hml","c_root_id_B":"g245hyz","created_at_utc_A":1597854428,"created_at_utc_B":1597853449,"score_A":76,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Yep, I'm on the verge of doing the same. I signed up for reddit for amusement. Now when I log on there's a little red icon telling me there's a new message in the moderator inbox and it's verbal abuse half the time. I think this applies across North America, but where I work we're busier than ever. Clients were listening to the pleas to be kind to your neighbor for ... what, two months? Now COVID is old news and the abuse and shitty behavior is back with a vengeance. I don't need more of it while I'm looking for distractions on the internet. It's not just moderating either. Replying to comments can potentially be met with a lot of abuse. Downvotes don't bother me but a recent comment got almost 100 downvotes and I couldn't help but feel that I was wasting my time by trying to help around here. It's probably a matter of time before I sign off. And there aren't many new comers...","human_ref_B":"Thank you for all the work that you have done on this sub.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":979.0,"score_ratio":3.619047619}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g247hml","c_root_id_B":"g245ve5","created_at_utc_A":1597854428,"created_at_utc_B":1597853634,"score_A":76,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Yep, I'm on the verge of doing the same. I signed up for reddit for amusement. Now when I log on there's a little red icon telling me there's a new message in the moderator inbox and it's verbal abuse half the time. I think this applies across North America, but where I work we're busier than ever. Clients were listening to the pleas to be kind to your neighbor for ... what, two months? Now COVID is old news and the abuse and shitty behavior is back with a vengeance. I don't need more of it while I'm looking for distractions on the internet. It's not just moderating either. Replying to comments can potentially be met with a lot of abuse. Downvotes don't bother me but a recent comment got almost 100 downvotes and I couldn't help but feel that I was wasting my time by trying to help around here. It's probably a matter of time before I sign off. And there aren't many new comers...","human_ref_B":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","labels":1,"seconds_difference":794.0,"score_ratio":5.0666666667}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g247hml","c_root_id_B":"g246ulm","created_at_utc_A":1597854428,"created_at_utc_B":1597854115,"score_A":76,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Yep, I'm on the verge of doing the same. I signed up for reddit for amusement. Now when I log on there's a little red icon telling me there's a new message in the moderator inbox and it's verbal abuse half the time. I think this applies across North America, but where I work we're busier than ever. Clients were listening to the pleas to be kind to your neighbor for ... what, two months? Now COVID is old news and the abuse and shitty behavior is back with a vengeance. I don't need more of it while I'm looking for distractions on the internet. It's not just moderating either. Replying to comments can potentially be met with a lot of abuse. Downvotes don't bother me but a recent comment got almost 100 downvotes and I couldn't help but feel that I was wasting my time by trying to help around here. It's probably a matter of time before I sign off. And there aren't many new comers...","human_ref_B":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":313.0,"score_ratio":6.9090909091}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24wl3o","c_root_id_B":"g24igba","created_at_utc_A":1597865932,"created_at_utc_B":1597859619,"score_A":33,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6313.0,"score_ratio":1.1785714286}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g245hyz","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597853449,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":21,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for all the work that you have done on this sub.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12483.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24wl3o","c_root_id_B":"g24ttl7","created_at_utc_A":1597865932,"created_at_utc_B":1597864719,"score_A":33,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","human_ref_B":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1213.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ka4j","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597860489,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":18,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the good work you have done. The existing rules are more than appropriate. The human race is a huge disappointment. People who send comments like that are pathetic and I pity their pets. Good luck going forward!","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5443.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g245ve5","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597853634,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":15,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12298.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g246ulm","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597854115,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":11,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11817.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24wl3o","c_root_id_B":"g248vwb","created_at_utc_A":1597865932,"created_at_utc_B":1597855113,"score_A":33,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","human_ref_B":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10819.0,"score_ratio":2.5384615385}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24aiji","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597855904,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":9,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are getting abuse like this! I hope you feel better soon <3","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10028.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24q6xy","c_root_id_B":"g24wl3o","created_at_utc_A":1597863096,"created_at_utc_B":1597865932,"score_A":5,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I understand your frustration. It\u2019s very hard to ignore those mean comments. I personally don\u2019t care much what they say. This is a useful trait in Twitter, YouTube etc.   Thank you for taking your time to make Reddit a better community","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your help over these years. You've been a huge reason why the sub has grown steadily over that time, and we've been lucky to have you. Unfortunately, growth comes with a larger number of undesirable commenters, as happens everywhere on the internet, and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with them in their scarce free time.   Again, thanks from all of us, and feel free to reach out if you ever feel the itch to start again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2836.0,"score_ratio":6.6}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g245hyz","c_root_id_B":"g24igba","created_at_utc_A":1597853449,"created_at_utc_B":1597859619,"score_A":21,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for all the work that you have done on this sub.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6170.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24igba","c_root_id_B":"g245ve5","created_at_utc_A":1597859619,"created_at_utc_B":1597853634,"score_A":28,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","human_ref_B":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5985.0,"score_ratio":1.8666666667}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24igba","c_root_id_B":"g246ulm","created_at_utc_A":1597859619,"created_at_utc_B":1597854115,"score_A":28,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","human_ref_B":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5504.0,"score_ratio":2.5454545455}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g248vwb","c_root_id_B":"g24igba","created_at_utc_A":1597855113,"created_at_utc_B":1597859619,"score_A":13,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4506.0,"score_ratio":2.1538461538}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24igba","c_root_id_B":"g24aiji","created_at_utc_A":1597859619,"created_at_utc_B":1597855904,"score_A":28,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for taking care of yourself and stepping back as needed. It's really shitty that this is the reality we live in (and this behavior is so pervasive, from in clinic client interactions, and from entitled and ignorant folks online).    I appreciate the time and energy you have put in, and you will be missed.   Please continue to draw boundaries where you need them. \u2764\ufe0f It's not easy to stay safe and stay sane in this field.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are getting abuse like this! I hope you feel better soon <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3715.0,"score_ratio":3.1111111111}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g247x8j","c_root_id_B":"g245hyz","created_at_utc_A":1597854641,"created_at_utc_B":1597853449,"score_A":33,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019ve had to deal with that, while I often wonder what the point of this sub is besides the obvious \u201cgo to the vet\u201d answers, I can see how getting random advice can lead to expensive and time wasting remedies that only hurt people and animals over time.   It seems to me like abuse on social media has become the default setting.   You can\u2019t even post a simple anecdote on a popular sub without getting attacked at all angles, with people twisting your words or making something out of nothing.   Just be kind people. You don\u2019t know what other people are dealing with (especially during a global pandemic) and do you really want to be the reason that someone is hurting and angry? Just so, what, you can \u201cprove a point\u201d or make yourself feel better???   STOP.   Just stop it. People are out here killing themselves because things are so depressing, don\u2019t add to their pain.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for all the work that you have done on this sub.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1192.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g247x8j","c_root_id_B":"g245ve5","created_at_utc_A":1597854641,"created_at_utc_B":1597853634,"score_A":33,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019ve had to deal with that, while I often wonder what the point of this sub is besides the obvious \u201cgo to the vet\u201d answers, I can see how getting random advice can lead to expensive and time wasting remedies that only hurt people and animals over time.   It seems to me like abuse on social media has become the default setting.   You can\u2019t even post a simple anecdote on a popular sub without getting attacked at all angles, with people twisting your words or making something out of nothing.   Just be kind people. You don\u2019t know what other people are dealing with (especially during a global pandemic) and do you really want to be the reason that someone is hurting and angry? Just so, what, you can \u201cprove a point\u201d or make yourself feel better???   STOP.   Just stop it. People are out here killing themselves because things are so depressing, don\u2019t add to their pain.","human_ref_B":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1007.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g246ulm","c_root_id_B":"g247x8j","created_at_utc_A":1597854115,"created_at_utc_B":1597854641,"score_A":11,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019ve had to deal with that, while I often wonder what the point of this sub is besides the obvious \u201cgo to the vet\u201d answers, I can see how getting random advice can lead to expensive and time wasting remedies that only hurt people and animals over time.   It seems to me like abuse on social media has become the default setting.   You can\u2019t even post a simple anecdote on a popular sub without getting attacked at all angles, with people twisting your words or making something out of nothing.   Just be kind people. You don\u2019t know what other people are dealing with (especially during a global pandemic) and do you really want to be the reason that someone is hurting and angry? Just so, what, you can \u201cprove a point\u201d or make yourself feel better???   STOP.   Just stop it. People are out here killing themselves because things are so depressing, don\u2019t add to their pain.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":526.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g245ve5","c_root_id_B":"g24ttl7","created_at_utc_A":1597853634,"created_at_utc_B":1597864719,"score_A":15,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","human_ref_B":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11085.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ttl7","c_root_id_B":"g246ulm","created_at_utc_A":1597864719,"created_at_utc_B":1597854115,"score_A":18,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","human_ref_B":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10604.0,"score_ratio":1.6363636364}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ttl7","c_root_id_B":"g248vwb","created_at_utc_A":1597864719,"created_at_utc_B":1597855113,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","human_ref_B":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9606.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ttl7","c_root_id_B":"g24aiji","created_at_utc_A":1597864719,"created_at_utc_B":1597855904,"score_A":18,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are getting abuse like this! I hope you feel better soon <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8815.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ttl7","c_root_id_B":"g24q6xy","created_at_utc_A":1597864719,"created_at_utc_B":1597863096,"score_A":18,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'd like to take this opportunity to say *thanks* to the veterinary community at large. It's not an easy task that you have undertaken. You deal with less than cooperative patients whose caretakers are often in emotionally fragile states. We tend to lose sight of how much courage and perseverance it takes to make a career in your field.","human_ref_B":"I understand your frustration. It\u2019s very hard to ignore those mean comments. I personally don\u2019t care much what they say. This is a useful trait in Twitter, YouTube etc.   Thank you for taking your time to make Reddit a better community","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1623.0,"score_ratio":3.6}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ka4j","c_root_id_B":"g245ve5","created_at_utc_A":1597860489,"created_at_utc_B":1597853634,"score_A":18,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the good work you have done. The existing rules are more than appropriate. The human race is a huge disappointment. People who send comments like that are pathetic and I pity their pets. Good luck going forward!","human_ref_B":"Personally I think the sub just needs to be revised, maybe auto mod can say exactly this \u201c visit a vet \u201c with maybe some cost saving resources\/recommended emergency ER in every city    There seems to be way more medical emergency questions than \u201c can I dye my dog \u201c questions   Also maybe vets can get approved tags ?   And lastly maybe a auto mod that gives advice for commonly ask questions or directs to proper resources   Anyway appreciate your time and good luck moving forward","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6855.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ka4j","c_root_id_B":"g246ulm","created_at_utc_A":1597860489,"created_at_utc_B":1597854115,"score_A":18,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the good work you have done. The existing rules are more than appropriate. The human race is a huge disappointment. People who send comments like that are pathetic and I pity their pets. Good luck going forward!","human_ref_B":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6374.0,"score_ratio":1.6363636364}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ka4j","c_root_id_B":"g248vwb","created_at_utc_A":1597860489,"created_at_utc_B":1597855113,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the good work you have done. The existing rules are more than appropriate. The human race is a huge disappointment. People who send comments like that are pathetic and I pity their pets. Good luck going forward!","human_ref_B":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5376.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24aiji","c_root_id_B":"g24ka4j","created_at_utc_A":1597855904,"created_at_utc_B":1597860489,"score_A":9,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are getting abuse like this! I hope you feel better soon <3","human_ref_B":"Thanks for the good work you have done. The existing rules are more than appropriate. The human race is a huge disappointment. People who send comments like that are pathetic and I pity their pets. Good luck going forward!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4585.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g246ulm","c_root_id_B":"g255p0s","created_at_utc_A":1597854115,"created_at_utc_B":1597870234,"score_A":11,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","human_ref_B":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16119.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g255p0s","c_root_id_B":"g248vwb","created_at_utc_A":1597870234,"created_at_utc_B":1597855113,"score_A":14,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","human_ref_B":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15121.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g255p0s","c_root_id_B":"g24aiji","created_at_utc_A":1597870234,"created_at_utc_B":1597855904,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are getting abuse like this! I hope you feel better soon <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14330.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24ygjt","c_root_id_B":"g255p0s","created_at_utc_A":1597866810,"created_at_utc_B":1597870234,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry. Reddit can be an amazing resource for virtually everything, and it's subs like this with strict rules which create that resource.   I think most people understand that \"get to a vet\" is often the only advice you can give- and I most certainly appreciate that this subreddit sticks hard and fast to the \"no anecdotes\" rule, else this sub would become as useful as legal advice.   But I also understand the psychological toll anonymous abuse can take - I had to let a 6 year old account go because I picked up a stalker. Funny how you can understand that anonymous toxicity means exactly nothing to your real life, but it chips away at you nonetheless, and 2020 is a big-fat-psychological toll in itself, so, I get it.   Sorry to see you go.","human_ref_B":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3424.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24zpnx","c_root_id_B":"g255p0s","created_at_utc_A":1597867404,"created_at_utc_B":1597870234,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Take care of yourself.","human_ref_B":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2830.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24q6xy","c_root_id_B":"g255p0s","created_at_utc_A":1597863096,"created_at_utc_B":1597870234,"score_A":5,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I understand your frustration. It\u2019s very hard to ignore those mean comments. I personally don\u2019t care much what they say. This is a useful trait in Twitter, YouTube etc.   Thank you for taking your time to make Reddit a better community","human_ref_B":"Sincerely, thank you for posting and moderating here.  I\u2019ve browsed this sub for a number of years, haven\u2019t bothered getting flair (mostly out of laziness) and have considered applying as a mod to help out. Then I think about how many times I\u2019ve stepped away from the sub because I can\u2019t even stomach reading all the posts sometimes. I think our profession can really struggle with work\/life balance. Coming here in one\u2019s spare time only to be berated is a huge negative for their mental health.   Take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7138.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g248vwb","c_root_id_B":"g246ulm","created_at_utc_A":1597855113,"created_at_utc_B":1597854115,"score_A":13,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry that this happened to you. I come to this subreddit to learn as I have two 12 year old dogs. I hope it doesn't go away entirely.","human_ref_B":"So sorry you had to deal with abuse from internet trolls. Thank you for the work you've done here and best wishes for your future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":998.0,"score_ratio":1.1818181818}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24q6xy","c_root_id_B":"g24ygjt","created_at_utc_A":1597863096,"created_at_utc_B":1597866810,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I understand your frustration. It\u2019s very hard to ignore those mean comments. I personally don\u2019t care much what they say. This is a useful trait in Twitter, YouTube etc.   Thank you for taking your time to make Reddit a better community","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry. Reddit can be an amazing resource for virtually everything, and it's subs like this with strict rules which create that resource.   I think most people understand that \"get to a vet\" is often the only advice you can give- and I most certainly appreciate that this subreddit sticks hard and fast to the \"no anecdotes\" rule, else this sub would become as useful as legal advice.   But I also understand the psychological toll anonymous abuse can take - I had to let a 6 year old account go because I picked up a stalker. Funny how you can understand that anonymous toxicity means exactly nothing to your real life, but it chips away at you nonetheless, and 2020 is a big-fat-psychological toll in itself, so, I get it.   Sorry to see you go.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3714.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g24q6xy","c_root_id_B":"g24zpnx","created_at_utc_A":1597863096,"created_at_utc_B":1597867404,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I understand your frustration. It\u2019s very hard to ignore those mean comments. I personally don\u2019t care much what they say. This is a useful trait in Twitter, YouTube etc.   Thank you for taking your time to make Reddit a better community","human_ref_B":"Take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4308.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26chro","c_root_id_B":"g25fc2r","created_at_utc_A":1597893041,"created_at_utc_B":1597875032,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","human_ref_B":"Kudos to you for lasting 7 years. I had a short stint in vet med and the abuse from people is insane.   Hope you get to have some solid peace of mind and positive self care","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18009.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26chro","c_root_id_B":"g25kico","created_at_utc_A":1597893041,"created_at_utc_B":1597877738,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve gotten frustrated that my replies have gotten removed, especially when it\u2019s not really so much in relation to the practice of veterinary medicine, and maybe more along the lines of giving medicine to animals or specialized pet care, which I have years of experience in as a rescue and TNR volunteer. But I wouldn\u2019t ever go so far as to cuss a complete stranger out over it. There\u2019s no need in being horrible to another human being over something so small. I\u2019m sorry you went through this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15303.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25vais","c_root_id_B":"g26chro","created_at_utc_A":1597883530,"created_at_utc_B":1597893041,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Thank you (and all the mods) for all your work. My only current pet is a betta, but I have found this sub to be an incredibly valuable resource for planning to get a cat and dog. This subreddit is very educational when used properly; I have seen multiple posts where a concerned pet parent is asking for clarification on an issue. The qualified users here go above and beyond for these posts - explaining results as best they can, recommending questions to ask the vet in person, symptoms to watch for, credible sources to read. This is not a sub to provide a diagnosis, it's a sub for educating in my humble opinion.  Just watching from the side lines at all the posts where animals are clearly suffering and need immediate care, but the owner is wanting a fast and free fix, is incredibly disheartening. I can't imagine what that is like as a vet.","human_ref_B":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9511.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25vais","c_root_id_B":"g25ldg6","created_at_utc_A":1597883530,"created_at_utc_B":1597878196,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Thank you (and all the mods) for all your work. My only current pet is a betta, but I have found this sub to be an incredibly valuable resource for planning to get a cat and dog. This subreddit is very educational when used properly; I have seen multiple posts where a concerned pet parent is asking for clarification on an issue. The qualified users here go above and beyond for these posts - explaining results as best they can, recommending questions to ask the vet in person, symptoms to watch for, credible sources to read. This is not a sub to provide a diagnosis, it's a sub for educating in my humble opinion.  Just watching from the side lines at all the posts where animals are clearly suffering and need immediate care, but the owner is wanting a fast and free fix, is incredibly disheartening. I can't imagine what that is like as a vet.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your time.   I posted a comment that got removed by the bot and I don\u2019t understand why it\u2019s so offensive. It is what it is. But I appreciate this sub and what you have done for it. Best of luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5334.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25vais","c_root_id_B":"g25nfqw","created_at_utc_A":1597883530,"created_at_utc_B":1597879291,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Thank you (and all the mods) for all your work. My only current pet is a betta, but I have found this sub to be an incredibly valuable resource for planning to get a cat and dog. This subreddit is very educational when used properly; I have seen multiple posts where a concerned pet parent is asking for clarification on an issue. The qualified users here go above and beyond for these posts - explaining results as best they can, recommending questions to ask the vet in person, symptoms to watch for, credible sources to read. This is not a sub to provide a diagnosis, it's a sub for educating in my humble opinion.  Just watching from the side lines at all the posts where animals are clearly suffering and need immediate care, but the owner is wanting a fast and free fix, is incredibly disheartening. I can't imagine what that is like as a vet.","human_ref_B":"I have found automod a tad overzealous but thats my own fault for being too lazy to get a flair.  Once did ask for a comment to be approved, told my info was wrong so I supplied a recent(2 years old) peer reviewed article(from a decent journal) backing up what I was saying, only for the mod to send back nothing more than \"its wrong\". Did make me laugh but dont care enough to get angry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4239.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26chro","c_root_id_B":"g25ldg6","created_at_utc_A":1597893041,"created_at_utc_B":1597878196,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for your time.   I posted a comment that got removed by the bot and I don\u2019t understand why it\u2019s so offensive. It is what it is. But I appreciate this sub and what you have done for it. Best of luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14845.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25nfqw","c_root_id_B":"g26chro","created_at_utc_A":1597879291,"created_at_utc_B":1597893041,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I have found automod a tad overzealous but thats my own fault for being too lazy to get a flair.  Once did ask for a comment to be approved, told my info was wrong so I supplied a recent(2 years old) peer reviewed article(from a decent journal) backing up what I was saying, only for the mod to send back nothing more than \"its wrong\". Did make me laugh but dont care enough to get angry.","human_ref_B":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13750.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26anvy","c_root_id_B":"g26chro","created_at_utc_A":1597891993,"created_at_utc_B":1597893041,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Can I like this 100 times","human_ref_B":"It really blows that the bad seeds ruined this for you and I am even sorrier the advice and free brainpower is now lost to us. Thank you for all you did.  Edit to clarify.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1048.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26f2ap","c_root_id_B":"g272r5b","created_at_utc_A":1597894659,"created_at_utc_B":1597914619,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry people have been so mean to you. This sub really helped me last fall when my cat had an ulcer on her lip (all gone now!). Given this sub is to help us help our pets, you'd think people would be more understanding and supportive.","human_ref_B":"Thanks for all the help you have  provided. Sorry to see you go.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19960.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25nfqw","c_root_id_B":"g26f2ap","created_at_utc_A":1597879291,"created_at_utc_B":1597894659,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I have found automod a tad overzealous but thats my own fault for being too lazy to get a flair.  Once did ask for a comment to be approved, told my info was wrong so I supplied a recent(2 years old) peer reviewed article(from a decent journal) backing up what I was saying, only for the mod to send back nothing more than \"its wrong\". Did make me laugh but dont care enough to get angry.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry people have been so mean to you. This sub really helped me last fall when my cat had an ulcer on her lip (all gone now!). Given this sub is to help us help our pets, you'd think people would be more understanding and supportive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15368.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25ldg6","c_root_id_B":"g272r5b","created_at_utc_A":1597878196,"created_at_utc_B":1597914619,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for your time.   I posted a comment that got removed by the bot and I don\u2019t understand why it\u2019s so offensive. It is what it is. But I appreciate this sub and what you have done for it. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"Thanks for all the help you have  provided. Sorry to see you go.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":36423.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g25nfqw","c_root_id_B":"g272r5b","created_at_utc_A":1597879291,"created_at_utc_B":1597914619,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I have found automod a tad overzealous but thats my own fault for being too lazy to get a flair.  Once did ask for a comment to be approved, told my info was wrong so I supplied a recent(2 years old) peer reviewed article(from a decent journal) backing up what I was saying, only for the mod to send back nothing more than \"its wrong\". Did make me laugh but dont care enough to get angry.","human_ref_B":"Thanks for all the help you have  provided. Sorry to see you go.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35328.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g272r5b","c_root_id_B":"g26anvy","created_at_utc_A":1597914619,"created_at_utc_B":1597891993,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for all the help you have  provided. Sorry to see you go.","human_ref_B":"Can I like this 100 times","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22626.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"icpnpi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[Meta] Signing off as a mod Normally mods come and go without much fanfair, but I thought I'd take a moment to explain why I'm leaving as a mod and most likely the sub.  I've been part of this community for about 7 years now and watched it grow bigger. There have been some changes - some popular and some less so. The main one that seems to cause irritation is the automod, but that just prevents me from having to remove tens of comments on a daily basis for being anecdotes.   This is also an issue we get a lot of abuse over. Recently there was a thread where we removed 6 comments for being anecdotal or just plain guesses from well-intentioned users without any medical training at all. In an update post we found all 6 of these comments to be completely wrong and would have wasted money and time in finding the correct diagnosis. So yes, there is harm in these guesses and we remove them. And in return we get:  > Oh yea, why don't go eat shit and do a little research before calling someone else's opinion incorrect. And then go fuck yourself. Retard. Now go ahead and ban me because you are wrong like homeless bum.  Or   >I'm sorry but didnt it not address the concern? Your rules fucking Suck jam it up your ass. Go ahead and ban me I'm leaving anyway. Power tripping jaggoffs.  This is something I do in my spare time. I don't get paid. I do it to try to help, but people do not understand that we simply cannot diagnose things or tell them how to treat them online without seeing the animal, no matter how much we are called money grabbing assholes. The posts saying \"PLEASE HELP MY DOG IS DYING\" really aren't going to get resolved without a trip to the vet. If my dog showed the same signs I'd take him to the clinic to work him up. There are also plenty of posts where we offer advice without guessing at a diagnosis so I'm not going to bother addressing that \"what's the point of the sub\". You can argue that amongst yourselves.  I guess the TL:DR is that I'm fed up of the abuse for absolutely no reason, so now there is one less person here to offer advice. Just remember there is someone at the other end of the internet before you tell them to go fuck themselves, especially if they are a professional trying to help.  Have a nice day.","c_root_id_A":"g26anvy","c_root_id_B":"g25nfqw","created_at_utc_A":1597891993,"created_at_utc_B":1597879291,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Can I like this 100 times","human_ref_B":"I have found automod a tad overzealous but thats my own fault for being too lazy to get a flair.  Once did ask for a comment to be approved, told my info was wrong so I supplied a recent(2 years old) peer reviewed article(from a decent journal) backing up what I was saying, only for the mod to send back nothing more than \"its wrong\". Did make me laugh but dont care enough to get angry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12702.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"cp7szh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Petition: Change this subreddits name to \u201cr\/GoToTheVet\u201d","c_root_id_A":"ewnsiuh","c_root_id_B":"ewnrpcj","created_at_utc_A":1565588861,"created_at_utc_B":1565587933,"score_A":235,"score_B":226,"human_ref_A":"My cat had it's leg ripped off by my dog but it's barely bleeding now. Since it's sunday can I wait until monday to take her to the vet?","human_ref_B":"People always get mad that that advice is so often given, but it\u2019s appropriate. These people want a diagnosis, and there\u2019s a reason no one has online clinics. Lesions can look more oozey or more dome shaped in person, cell phone cameras suck, the dog\u2019s probably not super still.  If people asked questions like \u201cwhy do vets sometimes staple an incision\u201d or \u201cany tips on keeping an e-collar on without them bulldozing my entire house\u201d, they\u2019d prob get more help. But so many of these posts are \u201cI really really don\u2019t want to spend $50 for an exam fee, pls give free medical advice\u201d","labels":1,"seconds_difference":928.0,"score_ratio":1.0398230088}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9b8bj6","c_root_id_B":"g9brsic","created_at_utc_A":1603104495,"created_at_utc_B":1603117030,"score_A":41,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23 Happy to hear it was just a peanut not something serious!","human_ref_B":"Most expensive beer nut ever! I'm glad your kitty is ok and it didnt cost you too much.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12535.0,"score_ratio":1.512195122}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9brsic","c_root_id_B":"g9bpg4i","created_at_utc_A":1603117030,"created_at_utc_B":1603115862,"score_A":62,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Most expensive beer nut ever! I'm glad your kitty is ok and it didnt cost you too much.","human_ref_B":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1168.0,"score_ratio":7.75}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cae22","c_root_id_B":"g9b8bj6","created_at_utc_A":1603125156,"created_at_utc_B":1603104495,"score_A":44,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","human_ref_B":"\ud83e\udd23 Happy to hear it was just a peanut not something serious!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20661.0,"score_ratio":1.0731707317}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cae22","c_root_id_B":"g9bt53x","created_at_utc_A":1603125156,"created_at_utc_B":1603117667,"score_A":44,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","human_ref_B":"This gave me a good chuckle lol. Glad the cats ok","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7489.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cae22","c_root_id_B":"g9c9d90","created_at_utc_A":1603125156,"created_at_utc_B":1603124717,"score_A":44,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","human_ref_B":"That was a roller-coaster!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":439.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cae22","c_root_id_B":"g9c3oke","created_at_utc_A":1603125156,"created_at_utc_B":1603122270,"score_A":44,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","human_ref_B":"Phenomenal. This is so insanely funny! I\u2019m so glad kitty is okay.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2886.0,"score_ratio":2.3157894737}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c4mjs","c_root_id_B":"g9cae22","created_at_utc_A":1603122683,"created_at_utc_B":1603125156,"score_A":16,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Omg. Best possible outcome haha","human_ref_B":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2473.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c8piv","c_root_id_B":"g9cae22","created_at_utc_A":1603124436,"created_at_utc_B":1603125156,"score_A":8,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"LOL! Amazing read I\u2019m so relieved. It looked so freaky","human_ref_B":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":720.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cae22","c_root_id_B":"g9bpg4i","created_at_utc_A":1603125156,"created_at_utc_B":1603115862,"score_A":44,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Today I learned if cat has a weird growth ask all family members if they\u2019ve been eating nuts.","human_ref_B":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9294.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9ccex2","c_root_id_B":"g9bt53x","created_at_utc_A":1603126031,"created_at_utc_B":1603117667,"score_A":25,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","human_ref_B":"This gave me a good chuckle lol. Glad the cats ok","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8364.0,"score_ratio":1.0416666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9bt53x","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603117667,"score_A":8,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"This gave me a good chuckle lol. Glad the cats ok","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1805.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c9d90","c_root_id_B":"g9ccex2","created_at_utc_A":1603124717,"created_at_utc_B":1603126031,"score_A":20,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"That was a roller-coaster!","human_ref_B":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1314.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9ccex2","c_root_id_B":"g9c3oke","created_at_utc_A":1603126031,"created_at_utc_B":1603122270,"score_A":25,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","human_ref_B":"Phenomenal. This is so insanely funny! I\u2019m so glad kitty is okay.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3761.0,"score_ratio":1.3157894737}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9ccex2","c_root_id_B":"g9c4mjs","created_at_utc_A":1603126031,"created_at_utc_B":1603122683,"score_A":25,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","human_ref_B":"Omg. Best possible outcome haha","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3348.0,"score_ratio":1.5625}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9ccex2","c_root_id_B":"g9c8piv","created_at_utc_A":1603126031,"created_at_utc_B":1603124436,"score_A":25,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","human_ref_B":"LOL! Amazing read I\u2019m so relieved. It looked so freaky","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1595.0,"score_ratio":3.125}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9ccex2","c_root_id_B":"g9bpg4i","created_at_utc_A":1603126031,"created_at_utc_B":1603115862,"score_A":25,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I love when it ends up as something funny. Glad kitty is okay!","human_ref_B":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10169.0,"score_ratio":3.125}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c9d90","c_root_id_B":"g9c3oke","created_at_utc_A":1603124717,"created_at_utc_B":1603122270,"score_A":20,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"That was a roller-coaster!","human_ref_B":"Phenomenal. This is so insanely funny! I\u2019m so glad kitty is okay.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2447.0,"score_ratio":1.0526315789}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c4mjs","c_root_id_B":"g9c9d90","created_at_utc_A":1603122683,"created_at_utc_B":1603124717,"score_A":16,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Omg. Best possible outcome haha","human_ref_B":"That was a roller-coaster!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2034.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c8piv","c_root_id_B":"g9c9d90","created_at_utc_A":1603124436,"created_at_utc_B":1603124717,"score_A":8,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"LOL! Amazing read I\u2019m so relieved. It looked so freaky","human_ref_B":"That was a roller-coaster!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":281.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9c9d90","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603124717,"score_A":8,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"That was a roller-coaster!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8855.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cchmb","c_root_id_B":"g9c3oke","created_at_utc_A":1603126065,"created_at_utc_B":1603122270,"score_A":20,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Did you keep the peanut? I would frame it and shame cat to every new person that comes in my house! I\u2019m glad it was nothing serious!!","human_ref_B":"Phenomenal. This is so insanely funny! I\u2019m so glad kitty is okay.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3795.0,"score_ratio":1.0526315789}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9c3oke","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603122270,"score_A":8,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"Phenomenal. This is so insanely funny! I\u2019m so glad kitty is okay.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6408.0,"score_ratio":2.375}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c4mjs","c_root_id_B":"g9cchmb","created_at_utc_A":1603122683,"created_at_utc_B":1603126065,"score_A":16,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Omg. Best possible outcome haha","human_ref_B":"Did you keep the peanut? I would frame it and shame cat to every new person that comes in my house! I\u2019m glad it was nothing serious!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3382.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cchmb","c_root_id_B":"g9c8piv","created_at_utc_A":1603126065,"created_at_utc_B":1603124436,"score_A":20,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Did you keep the peanut? I would frame it and shame cat to every new person that comes in my house! I\u2019m glad it was nothing serious!!","human_ref_B":"LOL! Amazing read I\u2019m so relieved. It looked so freaky","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1629.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9cchmb","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603126065,"score_A":8,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"Did you keep the peanut? I would frame it and shame cat to every new person that comes in my house! I\u2019m glad it was nothing serious!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10203.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9c4mjs","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603122683,"score_A":8,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"Omg. Best possible outcome haha","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6821.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9c8piv","c_root_id_B":"g9cetff","created_at_utc_A":1603124436,"created_at_utc_B":1603127186,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"LOL! Amazing read I\u2019m so relieved. It looked so freaky","human_ref_B":"Not advice for your pet, but you can apply to PUA if you lost your university job (it\u2019s different from regular unemployment, and you\u2019re probably eligible). Glad to hear your car is ok.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2750.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9bpg4i","c_root_id_B":"g9cetff","created_at_utc_A":1603115862,"created_at_utc_B":1603127186,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Looks like you're sorted this time but the next time this happens there are charities that will assist low-income \/ indigent pet owners.  This sounds like a jackass thing to say, but if and when it \\*is\\* possible for you to set aside cash for emergencies such as this, I would encourage you to do so.","human_ref_B":"Not advice for your pet, but you can apply to PUA if you lost your university job (it\u2019s different from regular unemployment, and you\u2019re probably eligible). Glad to hear your car is ok.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11324.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dd8pj","c_root_id_B":"g9cxr14","created_at_utc_A":1603143522,"created_at_utc_B":1603136086,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This is hilarious. 'doesn't seem to bother him. Just tries to lick it' hahhahahah","human_ref_B":"Omg dude I am literally laughing out loud this is great","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7436.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dd8pj","c_root_id_B":"g9cmijk","created_at_utc_A":1603143522,"created_at_utc_B":1603130871,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is hilarious. 'doesn't seem to bother him. Just tries to lick it' hahhahahah","human_ref_B":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12651.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9crzve","c_root_id_B":"g9dd8pj","created_at_utc_A":1603133521,"created_at_utc_B":1603143522,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","human_ref_B":"This is hilarious. 'doesn't seem to bother him. Just tries to lick it' hahhahahah","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10001.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9d8klv","c_root_id_B":"g9dd8pj","created_at_utc_A":1603141166,"created_at_utc_B":1603143522,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"This is the best story on the internet today! I\u2019m so glad your baby is ok!","human_ref_B":"This is hilarious. 'doesn't seem to bother him. Just tries to lick it' hahhahahah","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2356.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dd8pj","c_root_id_B":"g9damr5","created_at_utc_A":1603143522,"created_at_utc_B":1603142197,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is hilarious. 'doesn't seem to bother him. Just tries to lick it' hahhahahah","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m glad it was a peanut and not a cyst!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1325.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dxxam","c_root_id_B":"g9cmijk","created_at_utc_A":1603154833,"created_at_utc_B":1603130871,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","human_ref_B":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23962.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9crzve","c_root_id_B":"g9dxxam","created_at_utc_A":1603133521,"created_at_utc_B":1603154833,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","human_ref_B":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21312.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9d8klv","c_root_id_B":"g9dxxam","created_at_utc_A":1603141166,"created_at_utc_B":1603154833,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This is the best story on the internet today! I\u2019m so glad your baby is ok!","human_ref_B":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13667.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9df3yl","c_root_id_B":"g9dxxam","created_at_utc_A":1603144486,"created_at_utc_B":1603154833,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Haha!! Love it!!","human_ref_B":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10347.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dxxam","c_root_id_B":"g9dpo47","created_at_utc_A":1603154833,"created_at_utc_B":1603150171,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","human_ref_B":"IM SO HAPPY WITH THIS RESULT. And glad that food lump didn\u2019t cost you much. It looked so strange. \ud83d\ude02","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4662.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dxxam","c_root_id_B":"g9damr5","created_at_utc_A":1603154833,"created_at_utc_B":1603142197,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"LOL. Perfect lesson as to why we can't diagnose over the internet, because I took one look at that thing and thought \"That isn't right at all, vet ASAP\"","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m glad it was a peanut and not a cyst!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12636.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cxr14","c_root_id_B":"g9cmijk","created_at_utc_A":1603136086,"created_at_utc_B":1603130871,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Omg dude I am literally laughing out loud this is great","human_ref_B":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5215.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9crzve","c_root_id_B":"g9cxr14","created_at_utc_A":1603133521,"created_at_utc_B":1603136086,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","human_ref_B":"Omg dude I am literally laughing out loud this is great","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2565.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9cmijk","c_root_id_B":"g9d8klv","created_at_utc_A":1603130871,"created_at_utc_B":1603141166,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","human_ref_B":"This is the best story on the internet today! I\u2019m so glad your baby is ok!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10295.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9df3yl","c_root_id_B":"g9cmijk","created_at_utc_A":1603144486,"created_at_utc_B":1603130871,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Haha!! Love it!!","human_ref_B":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13615.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9dpo47","c_root_id_B":"g9cmijk","created_at_utc_A":1603150171,"created_at_utc_B":1603130871,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"IM SO HAPPY WITH THIS RESULT. And glad that food lump didn\u2019t cost you much. It looked so strange. \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"Glad your kitty is okay! Beer nuts are the best!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19300.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9crzve","c_root_id_B":"g9d8klv","created_at_utc_A":1603133521,"created_at_utc_B":1603141166,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","human_ref_B":"This is the best story on the internet today! I\u2019m so glad your baby is ok!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7645.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9df3yl","c_root_id_B":"g9crzve","created_at_utc_A":1603144486,"created_at_utc_B":1603133521,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Haha!! Love it!!","human_ref_B":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10965.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9crzve","c_root_id_B":"g9dpo47","created_at_utc_A":1603133521,"created_at_utc_B":1603150171,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 reminds me of a pic from a mom that thought her baby had a piece of candy stuck to the back of its head and mom thought something serious was happening,  love it!!","human_ref_B":"IM SO HAPPY WITH THIS RESULT. And glad that food lump didn\u2019t cost you much. It looked so strange. \ud83d\ude02","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16650.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9damr5","c_root_id_B":"g9df3yl","created_at_utc_A":1603142197,"created_at_utc_B":1603144486,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m glad it was a peanut and not a cyst!","human_ref_B":"Haha!! Love it!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2289.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jdwthy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"UPDATE: EMERGENCY!! My cat!! Is this a muscle protruding or bug bite?? I cant afford 200 dollars for ER pet visit im unemployed not eligible for unemployment...college student...hes my baby...he goes on a slate 8x8' enclosed patio every day but no grass...tonight my industrial roll of pattern paper for fashion design fell and possibly got him?  ..Species: cat Age:13 Sex\/Neuter status: male\/neutered  Breed: tiger maybe a little f4 bengal...hes very smart and has spots on stomach Body weight: 9.9 lbs always been lean and skinny like me History: none...always been healthy, recently saw vet  Clinical signs: protruding balloon of what looks like muscle tissue...blood vessels too doesnt seem to botther him.. about half inch across...1\/2\" to 3\/4\" long.. .just weird\/tries to lick it.....its hard too Duration: 30 to 40 min Your general location: Connecticut   Pictures via google drive link: https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I  UPDATE: Diagnosis....for those curious..... vet was actually not that expensive for exam..$69 later the vet calls me....Turns out this disgusting looking thing.in the vets words, \"it's a...nut...like a peanut...it was a peanut stuck in his fur.\"....specifically a candy coated one...Are you serious??. It was A CANDY COATED PEANUT. From my mom eating Beer Nuts \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd70 happy patient And totally just as weird as always \ud83d\ude43 Love my cat. Updated pictures and the sample included lmaaaooo. Just wow.  https:\/\/drive.google.com\/folderview?id=1mQx7xVkO0jXxzkflVeYXObh7qiscqW0I","c_root_id_A":"g9damr5","c_root_id_B":"g9dpo47","created_at_utc_A":1603142197,"created_at_utc_B":1603150171,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m glad it was a peanut and not a cyst!","human_ref_B":"IM SO HAPPY WITH THIS RESULT. And glad that food lump didn\u2019t cost you much. It looked so strange. \ud83d\ude02","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7974.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"g6hdow","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat is in labor. Should I intervene? I took in a pregnant cat.   An amniotic sac (unaware if there's a kitten inside) has been hanging out of her vagina for about an hour.   She has not been pushing and due to the COVID issue there are no emergency vets open or taking calls in my area.   It's a small bubble, half the size of a ping pong ball.   She also won't allow me to walk away or stop petting her at all.  As far as I'm aware this is her first litter.","c_root_id_A":"fo9wwip","c_root_id_B":"fo9zfid","created_at_utc_A":1587633628,"created_at_utc_B":1587635690,"score_A":54,"score_B":132,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re in the US there are almost certainly emergency vets available even with COVID and you should contact one if you\u2019re concerned the labor is not progressing normally.","human_ref_B":"This is a little late so hopefully things have progressed by now, but if she will let you then see if you can see a kitten in there.   If there is then it's probably worth opening that up and getting the kitten out. Do this by pulling gently. No sharp movements. There may be some bleeding, this is normal. Kitten will need rubbing with a towel to stimulate breathing. Other kittens will hopefully follow, they should pass if the first one came out. They too will need rubbing.  Now keep everyone warm inside. Mum will need some additional feeding if she hasn't already been on more food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2062.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"g6hdow","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat is in labor. Should I intervene? I took in a pregnant cat.   An amniotic sac (unaware if there's a kitten inside) has been hanging out of her vagina for about an hour.   She has not been pushing and due to the COVID issue there are no emergency vets open or taking calls in my area.   It's a small bubble, half the size of a ping pong ball.   She also won't allow me to walk away or stop petting her at all.  As far as I'm aware this is her first litter.","c_root_id_A":"fobf60f","c_root_id_B":"focj51w","created_at_utc_A":1587659165,"created_at_utc_B":1587671934,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Please call a vet...","human_ref_B":"Most definitely try to contact a Veterinarian regardless. They should understand that this is an emergency and the cat needs to be seen ASAP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12769.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsg3ww5","c_root_id_B":"fsfxiyt","created_at_utc_A":1590950981,"created_at_utc_B":1590947709,"score_A":304,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Don't be embarrassed! It's a lot better for you to be (only slightly) overly concerned than not concerned enough! You did what you thought was best - you aren't a vet, it's okay that you didn't know he was just flushed! Trust me, they won't think anything bad or judge you for that. If anything they'll be glad you were concerned and made an appointment! And I'm positive they're very glad nothing was wrong. Go get that baby's Simparica :)","human_ref_B":"This sounds like you were worried about your pup and tried to get help :) I would look at this from the perspective of they'll appreciate that you were looking out for your dog rather than your foolish. Better to waste their time than to risk your dog's health","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3272.0,"score_ratio":20.2666666667}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsfxiyt","c_root_id_B":"fsg5j9a","created_at_utc_A":1590947709,"created_at_utc_B":1590951823,"score_A":15,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"This sounds like you were worried about your pup and tried to get help :) I would look at this from the perspective of they'll appreciate that you were looking out for your dog rather than your foolish. Better to waste their time than to risk your dog's health","human_ref_B":"Don't be embarrassed! I think this shows that you're a caring dog owner, not foolish at all.   And as far as forgetting the medication, it can happen to literally anyone. Can you just call and ask for a refill? You don't need to go into details about how you felt about the \"diagnosis\" of flushed skin, saying less is sometimes better!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4114.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsgdctw","c_root_id_B":"fsga0s9","created_at_utc_A":1590955864,"created_at_utc_B":1590954150,"score_A":46,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"As a vet tech, this is not embarrassing at all tbh. We routinely have people come in with masses on their pets stomach. Only to find out they are nipples. I actually love when it happens.  The people who should be embarrassed are people who waste a squeeze in appt. for an issues that's been going on for several weeks and now its an emergency (yet refuse to go to the emergency room)","human_ref_B":"I promise you, we love owners like you! Better to be concerned and bring him in for nothing than let something horrible go on and it take months for you to notice. You sound like a great dog mom! Plus that visit was good for him- all pets and treats and no pokes. It\u2019ll make him keep liking us \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1714.0,"score_ratio":2.3}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsgdctw","c_root_id_B":"fsg6182","created_at_utc_A":1590955864,"created_at_utc_B":1590952081,"score_A":46,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"As a vet tech, this is not embarrassing at all tbh. We routinely have people come in with masses on their pets stomach. Only to find out they are nipples. I actually love when it happens.  The people who should be embarrassed are people who waste a squeeze in appt. for an issues that's been going on for several weeks and now its an emergency (yet refuse to go to the emergency room)","human_ref_B":"Haha don't worry at all!  If there is any question as to if your dog is experiencing an emergency the best thing is to get it checked out right away - like you did.  Staff gets resentful when the following happens: the person shows up without an appointment and demands to see the vet immediately despite the pet being triaged and confirmed to be stable enough to wait for the next available appointment.  Then, making a huge scene in reception about how we are ignoring an emergency and complaining about us to the other clients in the room.    Edit - oh, and then acting shocked at, and perhaps walking out without paying, the consultation fee because the doctor \"didn't do anything!!\"...and then arguing about the annual exam fee 3-6 months later because \"he just had one!\".  No one is going to give what you did another thought - except perhaps that they were relieved your dog was ok and that it wasn't as bad as feared :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3783.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsfxiyt","c_root_id_B":"fsgdctw","created_at_utc_A":1590947709,"created_at_utc_B":1590955864,"score_A":15,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"This sounds like you were worried about your pup and tried to get help :) I would look at this from the perspective of they'll appreciate that you were looking out for your dog rather than your foolish. Better to waste their time than to risk your dog's health","human_ref_B":"As a vet tech, this is not embarrassing at all tbh. We routinely have people come in with masses on their pets stomach. Only to find out they are nipples. I actually love when it happens.  The people who should be embarrassed are people who waste a squeeze in appt. for an issues that's been going on for several weeks and now its an emergency (yet refuse to go to the emergency room)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8155.0,"score_ratio":3.0666666667}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsgdctw","c_root_id_B":"fsg5vqt","created_at_utc_A":1590955864,"created_at_utc_B":1590952004,"score_A":46,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"As a vet tech, this is not embarrassing at all tbh. We routinely have people come in with masses on their pets stomach. Only to find out they are nipples. I actually love when it happens.  The people who should be embarrassed are people who waste a squeeze in appt. for an issues that's been going on for several weeks and now its an emergency (yet refuse to go to the emergency room)","human_ref_B":"I'm sure any vet would rather you bring him in with nothing wrong than ignore it and it potentially get worse. You did the right thing and I think anyone else in you're position would've done the same thing, dont beat yourself up for being a caring dog owner \ud83d\udc93","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3860.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsgdctw","c_root_id_B":"fsg7f4k","created_at_utc_A":1590955864,"created_at_utc_B":1590952805,"score_A":46,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"As a vet tech, this is not embarrassing at all tbh. We routinely have people come in with masses on their pets stomach. Only to find out they are nipples. I actually love when it happens.  The people who should be embarrassed are people who waste a squeeze in appt. for an issues that's been going on for several weeks and now its an emergency (yet refuse to go to the emergency room)","human_ref_B":"Nothing embarrassing about being a good dog owner! It\u2019s better to be safe than sorry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3059.0,"score_ratio":4.1818181818}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsga0s9","c_root_id_B":"fsg6182","created_at_utc_A":1590954150,"created_at_utc_B":1590952081,"score_A":20,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I promise you, we love owners like you! Better to be concerned and bring him in for nothing than let something horrible go on and it take months for you to notice. You sound like a great dog mom! Plus that visit was good for him- all pets and treats and no pokes. It\u2019ll make him keep liking us \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"Haha don't worry at all!  If there is any question as to if your dog is experiencing an emergency the best thing is to get it checked out right away - like you did.  Staff gets resentful when the following happens: the person shows up without an appointment and demands to see the vet immediately despite the pet being triaged and confirmed to be stable enough to wait for the next available appointment.  Then, making a huge scene in reception about how we are ignoring an emergency and complaining about us to the other clients in the room.    Edit - oh, and then acting shocked at, and perhaps walking out without paying, the consultation fee because the doctor \"didn't do anything!!\"...and then arguing about the annual exam fee 3-6 months later because \"he just had one!\".  No one is going to give what you did another thought - except perhaps that they were relieved your dog was ok and that it wasn't as bad as feared :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2069.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsfxiyt","c_root_id_B":"fsga0s9","created_at_utc_A":1590947709,"created_at_utc_B":1590954150,"score_A":15,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"This sounds like you were worried about your pup and tried to get help :) I would look at this from the perspective of they'll appreciate that you were looking out for your dog rather than your foolish. Better to waste their time than to risk your dog's health","human_ref_B":"I promise you, we love owners like you! Better to be concerned and bring him in for nothing than let something horrible go on and it take months for you to notice. You sound like a great dog mom! Plus that visit was good for him- all pets and treats and no pokes. It\u2019ll make him keep liking us \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6441.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsga0s9","c_root_id_B":"fsg5vqt","created_at_utc_A":1590954150,"created_at_utc_B":1590952004,"score_A":20,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I promise you, we love owners like you! Better to be concerned and bring him in for nothing than let something horrible go on and it take months for you to notice. You sound like a great dog mom! Plus that visit was good for him- all pets and treats and no pokes. It\u2019ll make him keep liking us \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I'm sure any vet would rather you bring him in with nothing wrong than ignore it and it potentially get worse. You did the right thing and I think anyone else in you're position would've done the same thing, dont beat yourself up for being a caring dog owner \ud83d\udc93","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2146.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsg7f4k","c_root_id_B":"fsga0s9","created_at_utc_A":1590952805,"created_at_utc_B":1590954150,"score_A":11,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Nothing embarrassing about being a good dog owner! It\u2019s better to be safe than sorry.","human_ref_B":"I promise you, we love owners like you! Better to be concerned and bring him in for nothing than let something horrible go on and it take months for you to notice. You sound like a great dog mom! Plus that visit was good for him- all pets and treats and no pokes. It\u2019ll make him keep liking us \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1345.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsg6182","c_root_id_B":"fsfxiyt","created_at_utc_A":1590952081,"created_at_utc_B":1590947709,"score_A":16,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Haha don't worry at all!  If there is any question as to if your dog is experiencing an emergency the best thing is to get it checked out right away - like you did.  Staff gets resentful when the following happens: the person shows up without an appointment and demands to see the vet immediately despite the pet being triaged and confirmed to be stable enough to wait for the next available appointment.  Then, making a huge scene in reception about how we are ignoring an emergency and complaining about us to the other clients in the room.    Edit - oh, and then acting shocked at, and perhaps walking out without paying, the consultation fee because the doctor \"didn't do anything!!\"...and then arguing about the annual exam fee 3-6 months later because \"he just had one!\".  No one is going to give what you did another thought - except perhaps that they were relieved your dog was ok and that it wasn't as bad as feared :)","human_ref_B":"This sounds like you were worried about your pup and tried to get help :) I would look at this from the perspective of they'll appreciate that you were looking out for your dog rather than your foolish. Better to waste their time than to risk your dog's health","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4372.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsg5vqt","c_root_id_B":"fsg6182","created_at_utc_A":1590952004,"created_at_utc_B":1590952081,"score_A":14,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I'm sure any vet would rather you bring him in with nothing wrong than ignore it and it potentially get worse. You did the right thing and I think anyone else in you're position would've done the same thing, dont beat yourself up for being a caring dog owner \ud83d\udc93","human_ref_B":"Haha don't worry at all!  If there is any question as to if your dog is experiencing an emergency the best thing is to get it checked out right away - like you did.  Staff gets resentful when the following happens: the person shows up without an appointment and demands to see the vet immediately despite the pet being triaged and confirmed to be stable enough to wait for the next available appointment.  Then, making a huge scene in reception about how we are ignoring an emergency and complaining about us to the other clients in the room.    Edit - oh, and then acting shocked at, and perhaps walking out without paying, the consultation fee because the doctor \"didn't do anything!!\"...and then arguing about the annual exam fee 3-6 months later because \"he just had one!\".  No one is going to give what you did another thought - except perhaps that they were relieved your dog was ok and that it wasn't as bad as feared :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":77.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsh15cp","c_root_id_B":"fsgzctj","created_at_utc_A":1590968489,"created_at_utc_B":1590967501,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Do you know how many clients come in thinking their dog's nipples are ticks? Like-you're ok. This is really cute and just shows that you care about your dog.","human_ref_B":"Hey its okay, please don't be embarrassed. This just shows how much you love your little guy and want the best for him. No vet is going to be upset that a patient (the dog) is being cared for so diligently.   Give yourself a break and enjoy the summer with your pup.   Hugs","labels":1,"seconds_difference":988.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsh15cp","c_root_id_B":"fsgw75a","created_at_utc_A":1590968489,"created_at_utc_B":1590965774,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Do you know how many clients come in thinking their dog's nipples are ticks? Like-you're ok. This is really cute and just shows that you care about your dog.","human_ref_B":"Better concerned than not concerned at all. If it was something serious and you hadn't made the appointment, you'd be really kicking yourself. I can't speak for other clinics, but there is something pleasant about those appointments that are really simple like yours","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2715.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsgzctj","c_root_id_B":"fsgw75a","created_at_utc_A":1590967501,"created_at_utc_B":1590965774,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hey its okay, please don't be embarrassed. This just shows how much you love your little guy and want the best for him. No vet is going to be upset that a patient (the dog) is being cared for so diligently.   Give yourself a break and enjoy the summer with your pup.   Hugs","human_ref_B":"Better concerned than not concerned at all. If it was something serious and you hadn't made the appointment, you'd be really kicking yourself. I can't speak for other clinics, but there is something pleasant about those appointments that are really simple like yours","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1727.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsiahv3","c_root_id_B":"fshwhhg","created_at_utc_A":1590999230,"created_at_utc_B":1590987401,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I can tell you that no vet will ever be disappointed to tell you that your dog is perfectly healthy. There's absolutely nothing embarrassing about making sure your dog is okay, because more than often we see the other end of the spectrum; where owners have waited too long and a situation has gone from bad to DISASTER. No judgement here, thank you for being such a devoted pet parent. :)","human_ref_B":"Nothing to he ashamed of, it would be worse if he had someting serious and you ignored it because it could ve anything. You care for him and vets apreciate that.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11829.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"gu3g88","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I'm so embarrassed. How can a face my favorite clinic again? My dog is 9 years old. I moved from a not dog friendly area to an area more accommodating a few years ago. We found a wonderful vet clinic who are amazing.   Story time: My dog, white with black spots and originally born in the Caribbean, loves to sun bathe. I took him to a proper beach for the first time ever on Thursday. We spent a few hours walking along the shore finding sea shells, digging holes and chilling. I get back to my mother-in-law's house to hose the sand off him.   Suddenly! He's bleeding! No...no his skin is red! His skin is red everywhere!! From toe to tail his skin looks so sun burnt. I'm awash with guilt. How could I let this happen? I rush him inside. He curls up on his bed and starts licking his paws while shaking in pain. I'm mortified. Horrified.  I call our vet. Make him an appointment for the morning. Gather ourselves together and depart my Mother-in-law's for our 4 hour journey home.   The next morning he seems....fine? I'm doubting myself but take him in anyway.   He wasn't burnt. At all. He was just flushed from being in the sun. Shaking and licking because I *covered him in cold hose water and put him in an air conditioned house*  I feel *so so so* foolish. I was so embarrassed I forgot to ask for a refill on his Simparica and now I have to go back. I wasted a \"squeeze in\" appointment on a busy day for a dog who had fun in the sun.   Please, professionals of r\/askvet , forgive people like me.","c_root_id_A":"fsiahv3","c_root_id_B":"fsi7ews","created_at_utc_A":1590999230,"created_at_utc_B":1590996337,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I can tell you that no vet will ever be disappointed to tell you that your dog is perfectly healthy. There's absolutely nothing embarrassing about making sure your dog is okay, because more than often we see the other end of the spectrum; where owners have waited too long and a situation has gone from bad to DISASTER. No judgement here, thank you for being such a devoted pet parent. :)","human_ref_B":"Omg I\u2019m so sorry this happened. Honestly I would have done the exact same thing! I would have totally panicked. I didn\u2019t even realize doggies can get flushed with those symptoms so I\u2019m glad I saw this. You\u2019re a good dog parent and I\u2019m sure your vet agrees!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2893.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbshhn1","c_root_id_B":"gbs9dts","created_at_utc_A":1604977489,"created_at_utc_B":1604973063,"score_A":129,"score_B":49,"human_ref_A":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but I work at a clinic and we would love this!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4426.0,"score_ratio":2.6326530612}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbshhn1","c_root_id_B":"gbs9rsn","created_at_utc_A":1604977489,"created_at_utc_B":1604973277,"score_A":129,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","human_ref_B":"Not weird at all. My FIL is a vet. I know for a fact his office would love it!! What a cute idea.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4212.0,"score_ratio":3.6857142857}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsb3s1","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604974003,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":27,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"Not weird at all and much appreciated!  We usually have a board full of christmas cards from clients and lots of treats. It\u2019s so thoughtful! I love my clients and patients and worry about them all the time, so it\u2019s so sweet when they show their appreciation!  A nice card is the very best gift. \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3486.0,"score_ratio":4.7777777778}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsdghl","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604975286,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":10,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"Uh, trust me everybody in the clinic will be singing your praises!!! Do it!","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2203.0,"score_ratio":12.9}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsf0ah","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604976118,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":10,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"Not at all weird! While treats and everything are amazing (really!) being appreciated helps soooooo much. Even a card or nice word can make a crappy day into an amazing one! Thank you for thinking of us!","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1371.0,"score_ratio":12.9}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsga5x","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604976820,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":10,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"I can guarantee that your vet and their staff will absolutely love this! The cost of the treat you bring them will not matter, as the gesture will be very meaningful all on its own.   And for what it\u2019s worth, a card with a heartfelt thank you will mean the absolute world. My clinic saves every single card, note, and letter we get from clients and patients, so the sentiment will far outlast the shelf life of a snack :)","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":669.0,"score_ratio":12.9}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsbd70","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604974145,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":7,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t think it\u2019s weird at all. After my cat died I went back a week later and brought a thank you card and flowers because they were so sweet to me and I was a complete mess.","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3344.0,"score_ratio":18.4285714286}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbshhn1","c_root_id_B":"gbsc6x7","created_at_utc_A":1604977489,"created_at_utc_B":1604974600,"score_A":129,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2889.0,"score_ratio":43.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsgorq","c_root_id_B":"gbshhn1","created_at_utc_A":1604977043,"created_at_utc_B":1604977489,"score_A":3,"score_B":129,"human_ref_A":"Here to say- our favorite clients bring us Christmas goodies! I\u2019m sure your doggo has become a staff fave regardless, but treats are always appreciated!","human_ref_B":"We would LOVE it. But during Christmas tons and tons of clients send sweets. We would LOVE a fruit tray or a veggie tray or some small deli sandwhiches. Don\u2019t get me wrong we love donuts. But during Christmas there will be an excess of cookies sweets candy and chocolate. Or some of those half gallon star bucks type drinks from the grocery store ect.  But really a card alone goes a long way","labels":0,"seconds_difference":446.0,"score_ratio":43.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsbd70","c_root_id_B":"gbsdghl","created_at_utc_A":1604974145,"created_at_utc_B":1604975286,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t think it\u2019s weird at all. After my cat died I went back a week later and brought a thank you card and flowers because they were so sweet to me and I was a complete mess.","human_ref_B":"Uh, trust me everybody in the clinic will be singing your praises!!! Do it!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1141.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsc6x7","c_root_id_B":"gbsdghl","created_at_utc_A":1604974600,"created_at_utc_B":1604975286,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","human_ref_B":"Uh, trust me everybody in the clinic will be singing your praises!!! Do it!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":686.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsbd70","c_root_id_B":"gbsf0ah","created_at_utc_A":1604974145,"created_at_utc_B":1604976118,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t think it\u2019s weird at all. After my cat died I went back a week later and brought a thank you card and flowers because they were so sweet to me and I was a complete mess.","human_ref_B":"Not at all weird! While treats and everything are amazing (really!) being appreciated helps soooooo much. Even a card or nice word can make a crappy day into an amazing one! Thank you for thinking of us!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1973.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsf0ah","c_root_id_B":"gbsc6x7","created_at_utc_A":1604976118,"created_at_utc_B":1604974600,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Not at all weird! While treats and everything are amazing (really!) being appreciated helps soooooo much. Even a card or nice word can make a crappy day into an amazing one! Thank you for thinking of us!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1518.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsbd70","c_root_id_B":"gbsga5x","created_at_utc_A":1604974145,"created_at_utc_B":1604976820,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t think it\u2019s weird at all. After my cat died I went back a week later and brought a thank you card and flowers because they were so sweet to me and I was a complete mess.","human_ref_B":"I can guarantee that your vet and their staff will absolutely love this! The cost of the treat you bring them will not matter, as the gesture will be very meaningful all on its own.   And for what it\u2019s worth, a card with a heartfelt thank you will mean the absolute world. My clinic saves every single card, note, and letter we get from clients and patients, so the sentiment will far outlast the shelf life of a snack :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2675.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsc6x7","c_root_id_B":"gbsga5x","created_at_utc_A":1604974600,"created_at_utc_B":1604976820,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","human_ref_B":"I can guarantee that your vet and their staff will absolutely love this! The cost of the treat you bring them will not matter, as the gesture will be very meaningful all on its own.   And for what it\u2019s worth, a card with a heartfelt thank you will mean the absolute world. My clinic saves every single card, note, and letter we get from clients and patients, so the sentiment will far outlast the shelf life of a snack :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2220.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsc6x7","c_root_id_B":"gbsomqa","created_at_utc_A":1604974600,"created_at_utc_B":1604981599,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","human_ref_B":"I have one client who gives us a Halloween basket every year. That's my favorite!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6999.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsgorq","c_root_id_B":"gbsomqa","created_at_utc_A":1604977043,"created_at_utc_B":1604981599,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Here to say- our favorite clients bring us Christmas goodies! I\u2019m sure your doggo has become a staff fave regardless, but treats are always appreciated!","human_ref_B":"I have one client who gives us a Halloween basket every year. That's my favorite!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4556.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsjzlz","c_root_id_B":"gbsomqa","created_at_utc_A":1604978886,"created_at_utc_B":1604981599,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Doughnuts and sweets can be a bit overdone. It seems that everyone thinks of sweets as a go to when it comes to gifts of appreciation but it can be too much. Think outside the box just a bit with something tasty and healthier. It's harder but it will mean even more if you can send a message from the heart that is also thinking of the hearts of your clinic staff. It can be hard to resist the sweet stuff during stressful times.   Definitely send something from your pet, everyone will love it bc they truly love your pet! And they will know how much you appreciate them too :)","human_ref_B":"I have one client who gives us a Halloween basket every year. That's my favorite!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2713.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsngy0","c_root_id_B":"gbsomqa","created_at_utc_A":1604980905,"created_at_utc_B":1604981599,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Nope! We get these types of things in my clinic all the time from clients, sometimes for no special occasion at all. We probably like the treats more than the pets do, and it\u2019s always nice to walk into work and have the receptionist tell you \u201chey, there\u2019s food in the break room!\u201d","human_ref_B":"I have one client who gives us a Halloween basket every year. That's my favorite!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":694.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsc6x7","c_root_id_B":"gbsoqs5","created_at_utc_A":1604974600,"created_at_utc_B":1604981666,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but former CEO of rescue non-profit. We always did cookies, cards and gift cards for all our vets and their staff. Do it! They will feel so appreciated!","human_ref_B":"My sister works as a vet tech, and many of the regular clients at her clinic bring holiday treats for them.  Not weird at all.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7066.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsgorq","c_root_id_B":"gbsoqs5","created_at_utc_A":1604977043,"created_at_utc_B":1604981666,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Here to say- our favorite clients bring us Christmas goodies! I\u2019m sure your doggo has become a staff fave regardless, but treats are always appreciated!","human_ref_B":"My sister works as a vet tech, and many of the regular clients at her clinic bring holiday treats for them.  Not weird at all.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4623.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsoqs5","c_root_id_B":"gbsjzlz","created_at_utc_A":1604981666,"created_at_utc_B":1604978886,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My sister works as a vet tech, and many of the regular clients at her clinic bring holiday treats for them.  Not weird at all.","human_ref_B":"Doughnuts and sweets can be a bit overdone. It seems that everyone thinks of sweets as a go to when it comes to gifts of appreciation but it can be too much. Think outside the box just a bit with something tasty and healthier. It's harder but it will mean even more if you can send a message from the heart that is also thinking of the hearts of your clinic staff. It can be hard to resist the sweet stuff during stressful times.   Definitely send something from your pet, everyone will love it bc they truly love your pet! And they will know how much you appreciate them too :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2780.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jra342","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A fun question: Would it be weird to give our vet\u2019s office a card and donuts \u201cfrom\u201d our dog for Christmas? Not sure if this is allowed...   Probably not the typical question, but as vets, would you appreciate\/think it is cute to get donuts and a card \u201cfrom\u201d a dog for Christmas? Because of some health issues, our dog has had probably 20+ vet visits in the past 6 months. I honestly can\u2019t keep count anymore.   We\u2019d like to show a token of appreciation for all of the help with our pup, but can\u2019t afford a ton. We thought some donuts or other snack and a card \u201cfrom\u201d our dog at his last appointment before the holidays would be something we could manage to say thank you.   Is it weird to give a vet\u2019s office a Christmas gift? Any other thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"gbsngy0","c_root_id_B":"gbsoqs5","created_at_utc_A":1604980905,"created_at_utc_B":1604981666,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Nope! We get these types of things in my clinic all the time from clients, sometimes for no special occasion at all. We probably like the treats more than the pets do, and it\u2019s always nice to walk into work and have the receptionist tell you \u201chey, there\u2019s food in the break room!\u201d","human_ref_B":"My sister works as a vet tech, and many of the regular clients at her clinic bring holiday treats for them.  Not weird at all.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":761.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjoevkp","c_root_id_B":"fjobbwi","created_at_utc_A":1583526355,"created_at_utc_B":1583524334,"score_A":26,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Or the classic \u201cI really cant afford to take him to the vet\u201d. If you cant afford pet insurance or to pay the vet bills when needed its totally irresponsible to get a pet.","human_ref_B":"The same is true for other pets like rabbits, birds, reptiles as well. Know what is normal for your animal and if it deviates from it's normal have a plan for when you call the vet. For rabbits going off food and no poop often constitutes an emergency. Reptiles have different metabolic processes and may only need feeding once a week, some more, some less. If you get\/have an exotic pet take them in for well pet visits and discuss and ask your vet when they recommend checking in if there is a change.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2021.0,"score_ratio":3.7142857143}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjoevkp","c_root_id_B":"fjocvii","created_at_utc_A":1583526355,"created_at_utc_B":1583525213,"score_A":26,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Or the classic \u201cI really cant afford to take him to the vet\u201d. If you cant afford pet insurance or to pay the vet bills when needed its totally irresponsible to get a pet.","human_ref_B":"Also, rapid unintentional weight loss, and the \u2018my dog\/cat seems to be in terrible pain\u2019.....","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1142.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjodavj","c_root_id_B":"fjoevkp","created_at_utc_A":1583525457,"created_at_utc_B":1583526355,"score_A":6,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"mods should sticky this post","human_ref_B":"Or the classic \u201cI really cant afford to take him to the vet\u201d. If you cant afford pet insurance or to pay the vet bills when needed its totally irresponsible to get a pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":898.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjobbwi","c_root_id_B":"fjpelbp","created_at_utc_A":1583524334,"created_at_utc_B":1583548785,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"The same is true for other pets like rabbits, birds, reptiles as well. Know what is normal for your animal and if it deviates from it's normal have a plan for when you call the vet. For rabbits going off food and no poop often constitutes an emergency. Reptiles have different metabolic processes and may only need feeding once a week, some more, some less. If you get\/have an exotic pet take them in for well pet visits and discuss and ask your vet when they recommend checking in if there is a change.","human_ref_B":"To start - this is a completely valid frustration and it does absolutely bury posts that vets can maybe actually be helpful on.   But I'd also like to point out that under \"WHAT THIS SUB IS ABOUT,\"  it says:  > This is a space in which current or prospective animal owners can ask questions and get advice from professionals within the veterinary community. **All questions are allowed**, including those that are not specifically about your pet (i.e. preparing for vet school, general animal husbandry questions).   So I imagine a lot of folks find the subreddit, read that far, stop reading rules, and submit their question. Because it literally says all questions are allowed. Which is super misleading because we disallow a large number of questions! I think that section (and the other rules\/about sections) would benefit from rewording, which might cut down on some of the posts that we can't really help with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24451.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjocvii","c_root_id_B":"fjpelbp","created_at_utc_A":1583525213,"created_at_utc_B":1583548785,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Also, rapid unintentional weight loss, and the \u2018my dog\/cat seems to be in terrible pain\u2019.....","human_ref_B":"To start - this is a completely valid frustration and it does absolutely bury posts that vets can maybe actually be helpful on.   But I'd also like to point out that under \"WHAT THIS SUB IS ABOUT,\"  it says:  > This is a space in which current or prospective animal owners can ask questions and get advice from professionals within the veterinary community. **All questions are allowed**, including those that are not specifically about your pet (i.e. preparing for vet school, general animal husbandry questions).   So I imagine a lot of folks find the subreddit, read that far, stop reading rules, and submit their question. Because it literally says all questions are allowed. Which is super misleading because we disallow a large number of questions! I think that section (and the other rules\/about sections) would benefit from rewording, which might cut down on some of the posts that we can't really help with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23572.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjpelbp","c_root_id_B":"fjpax7z","created_at_utc_A":1583548785,"created_at_utc_B":1583546162,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"To start - this is a completely valid frustration and it does absolutely bury posts that vets can maybe actually be helpful on.   But I'd also like to point out that under \"WHAT THIS SUB IS ABOUT,\"  it says:  > This is a space in which current or prospective animal owners can ask questions and get advice from professionals within the veterinary community. **All questions are allowed**, including those that are not specifically about your pet (i.e. preparing for vet school, general animal husbandry questions).   So I imagine a lot of folks find the subreddit, read that far, stop reading rules, and submit their question. Because it literally says all questions are allowed. Which is super misleading because we disallow a large number of questions! I think that section (and the other rules\/about sections) would benefit from rewording, which might cut down on some of the posts that we can't really help with.","human_ref_B":"I agree most of these posts blow my mind, take your pet to the vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2623.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjpelbp","c_root_id_B":"fjodavj","created_at_utc_A":1583548785,"created_at_utc_B":1583525457,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"To start - this is a completely valid frustration and it does absolutely bury posts that vets can maybe actually be helpful on.   But I'd also like to point out that under \"WHAT THIS SUB IS ABOUT,\"  it says:  > This is a space in which current or prospective animal owners can ask questions and get advice from professionals within the veterinary community. **All questions are allowed**, including those that are not specifically about your pet (i.e. preparing for vet school, general animal husbandry questions).   So I imagine a lot of folks find the subreddit, read that far, stop reading rules, and submit their question. Because it literally says all questions are allowed. Which is super misleading because we disallow a large number of questions! I think that section (and the other rules\/about sections) would benefit from rewording, which might cut down on some of the posts that we can't really help with.","human_ref_B":"mods should sticky this post","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23328.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjocvii","c_root_id_B":"fjobbwi","created_at_utc_A":1583525213,"created_at_utc_B":1583524334,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Also, rapid unintentional weight loss, and the \u2018my dog\/cat seems to be in terrible pain\u2019.....","human_ref_B":"The same is true for other pets like rabbits, birds, reptiles as well. Know what is normal for your animal and if it deviates from it's normal have a plan for when you call the vet. For rabbits going off food and no poop often constitutes an emergency. Reptiles have different metabolic processes and may only need feeding once a week, some more, some less. If you get\/have an exotic pet take them in for well pet visits and discuss and ask your vet when they recommend checking in if there is a change.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":879.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fegb1x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"If your dog\/cat hasn\u2019t eaten\/had a drink in a concerning amount of time... Yes, you should probably go to the vet.   I\u2019m tired of the number of posts that are just \u201c[animal] has not had water in 24-48 hours\u2014 should I go to the vet?\u201d YES. YES, GO TO THE VET.   Do yourself and your pets a favor\u2014 not regularly eating and drinking is usually a vet visit. It\u2019ll help take stress off you, and probably get your pet treated faster, if you just go. Besides, most comments on these posts are people rightfully suggesting you go to a vet ASAP.   I want to be compassionate towards worried pet parents, but this sub is inundated with posts like this. If eating and drinking habits change drastically, go to the vet.","c_root_id_A":"fjodavj","c_root_id_B":"fjpax7z","created_at_utc_A":1583525457,"created_at_utc_B":1583546162,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"mods should sticky this post","human_ref_B":"I agree most of these posts blow my mind, take your pet to the vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20705.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvgkq49","c_root_id_B":"fvgfadj","created_at_utc_A":1592676034,"created_at_utc_B":1592673039,"score_A":26,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss.   When I had my elderly cat put down last year, the vet shared with me pictures of her own cat she had to put to sleep. She was Japanese, trained in Australia. She explained that in her native Japan, euthanasia isn't usually done. When she was working in a shelter there, she found it difficult because she wasn't able to give suffering animals the mercy of a quick, painless death. She helped me through a very difficult experience.   I'm sure there's a better way to say it, but your experience will help you be a better, more compassionate vet. Be gentle with yourself, and don't hesitate to take time off if you need to.","human_ref_B":"So sorry for your loss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2995.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvgmg20","c_root_id_B":"fvgfadj","created_at_utc_A":1592676979,"created_at_utc_B":1592673039,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.","human_ref_B":"So sorry for your loss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3940.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvgmg20","c_root_id_B":"fvglghg","created_at_utc_A":1592676979,"created_at_utc_B":1592676431,"score_A":18,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry. I\u2019m a 2019 grad and my 10 year old Collie was just diagnosed with DM.  I wish I could help you, my heart goes out to be. I think sometimes it just hurts, because loving someone so much is such a vulnerable place. The great pain reflects the great love we served them with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":548.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvia8rp","c_root_id_B":"fvgy9jb","created_at_utc_A":1592712282,"created_at_utc_B":1592683557,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.","human_ref_B":"I not going to lie  it hurts to loose out friends, I haven't lost one since qualifying but I am dreading the day our greyhound's legs give up on him and just the thought of it is so painful. If you're in the UK VetLife can offer you support or just someone to talk to. Remember your support network, colleagues  friends, family. It will always hurt, but it will get manageable and then it will get better. For your clients remember you're taking their pet's pain and suffering away and it is a privilege to be able to help them and their pet like that, even if you do cry in front of a couple they won't judge you for it, you're only human","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28725.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvhaobe","c_root_id_B":"fvia8rp","created_at_utc_A":1592690557,"created_at_utc_B":1592712282,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I'm very sorry. Loosing a pet is so very very difficult. I'm glad you have a friend coming to help you.   Please continue to do what you do. You are a special person allowing us to say goodbye to out pets at home.","human_ref_B":"You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21725.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"hcoynp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.","c_root_id_A":"fvhxkgi","c_root_id_B":"fvia8rp","created_at_utc_A":1592704099,"created_at_utc_B":1592712282,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"So sorry for what you've been through. That doggy was so lucky to be loved by you.","human_ref_B":"You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8183.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wk2xqm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Update on Boris, Kitty w\/ jaw\/face trauma Just wanted to let everyone know what\u2019s going on with Boris after I posted on Saturday. Thankfully he was able to get the care he needed and he is at home resting right now.   I was able to get in to see a different vet yesterday, he examined him and said that he had a Mandibular Symphyseal Fracture, abrasion to hard palate, and superficial abrasions along the mandible. He recommended giving him antibiotics and doing surgery to have his jaw wired while he heals. In 6-8 weeks I will go back to have wire removed.   Boris got his surgery late last night and is now home resting. Vet gave him long acting antibiotic, and he will have pain meds for the first few days. He had a little wet food and some water and used his scratching post and litter box. The vet said that he has a very good prognosis which is a huge relief.  Thanks to everyone who shared, reached out, and offered support. I really appreciate it, way more than I can put into words. Boris healing","c_root_id_A":"ijktjey","c_root_id_B":"ijku6m3","created_at_utc_A":1660052185,"created_at_utc_B":1660052467,"score_A":30,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the update!","human_ref_B":"He\u2019s so handsome! I\u2019m so glad he was able to receive treatment. I hope his recovery goes smoothly!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":282.0,"score_ratio":1.4666666667}
{"post_id":"tavzkm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I just want to say thank you to the vets who euthanize pets. It can't be an easy job, but someone has to do it. I had to put my cat Charlie down yesterday after having him for only 3 1\/2 months and it's been on my mind. So, thank you.","c_root_id_A":"i03zf1g","c_root_id_B":"i045k89","created_at_utc_A":1646922895,"created_at_utc_B":1646925521,"score_A":24,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry about Charlie, but I'm glad you had a good vet to help him transition from this life to the next.","human_ref_B":"Thanks for the thanks.   Honestly, euthanizing isn't as hard. I'm still helping that pet in a way. It's the cases I couldn't fix that keep me up at night. It could either be due to a  difficult diagnosis, impossible treatments, owner financial constraints, or human error.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2626.0,"score_ratio":2.2083333333}
{"post_id":"tavzkm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I just want to say thank you to the vets who euthanize pets. It can't be an easy job, but someone has to do it. I had to put my cat Charlie down yesterday after having him for only 3 1\/2 months and it's been on my mind. So, thank you.","c_root_id_A":"i045k89","c_root_id_B":"i03s825","created_at_utc_A":1646925521,"created_at_utc_B":1646919513,"score_A":53,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the thanks.   Honestly, euthanizing isn't as hard. I'm still helping that pet in a way. It's the cases I couldn't fix that keep me up at night. It could either be due to a  difficult diagnosis, impossible treatments, owner financial constraints, or human error.","human_ref_B":"Gosh yes!! \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6008.0,"score_ratio":5.8888888889}
{"post_id":"tavzkm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I just want to say thank you to the vets who euthanize pets. It can't be an easy job, but someone has to do it. I had to put my cat Charlie down yesterday after having him for only 3 1\/2 months and it's been on my mind. So, thank you.","c_root_id_A":"i03zf1g","c_root_id_B":"i03s825","created_at_utc_A":1646922895,"created_at_utc_B":1646919513,"score_A":24,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry about Charlie, but I'm glad you had a good vet to help him transition from this life to the next.","human_ref_B":"Gosh yes!! \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3382.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"tavzkm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I just want to say thank you to the vets who euthanize pets. It can't be an easy job, but someone has to do it. I had to put my cat Charlie down yesterday after having him for only 3 1\/2 months and it's been on my mind. So, thank you.","c_root_id_A":"i03s825","c_root_id_B":"i05i1ka","created_at_utc_A":1646919513,"created_at_utc_B":1646944407,"score_A":9,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Gosh yes!! \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"The vet who had to Euthanized my Beau was extremely kind and empathetic, I was incredibly greatful","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24894.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"tavzkm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I just want to say thank you to the vets who euthanize pets. It can't be an easy job, but someone has to do it. I had to put my cat Charlie down yesterday after having him for only 3 1\/2 months and it's been on my mind. So, thank you.","c_root_id_A":"i05da19","c_root_id_B":"i05i1ka","created_at_utc_A":1646942525,"created_at_utc_B":1646944407,"score_A":6,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Yes! Thank you all so much! Helping my dog to die when it was time was one of the greatest services I could ever do for her. Thank you for making that possible.","human_ref_B":"The vet who had to Euthanized my Beau was extremely kind and empathetic, I was incredibly greatful","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1882.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gswx3y3","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617198367,"score_A":66,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear about your loss, OP.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11965.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsx2k97","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617201108,"score_A":66,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"This is so sad!  But please remember all the good times you had and how much you were loved by Gus and vice versa. You gave him a good life and when you are at your saddest, try to think of special times with him. And when it\u2019s time, bring another little guy into your life. Gus would want you to.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9224.0,"score_ratio":2.1290322581}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx86fv","c_root_id_B":"gsxmsuz","created_at_utc_A":1617203760,"created_at_utc_B":1617210332,"score_A":13,"score_B":66,"human_ref_A":"Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. I just commented on your original post not knowing this update was here. You did everything you could, and your vet did everything they could. I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6572.0,"score_ratio":5.0769230769}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsx97ch","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617204229,"score_A":66,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find this beautiful connection with another dog, one day. Stay strong, friend","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6103.0,"score_ratio":8.25}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsx8g2n","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617203883,"score_A":66,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss! You are the most amazing owner and you did everything right. It\u2019s not fair to lose our best friends, especially so young. Sending love and healing vibes your way today!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6449.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsxau8b","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617204974,"score_A":66,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"Man I can't fathom how awful you guys must be feeling now, but hold on to the positive memories  with Gus, not the trauma of the last few days, I'm truly sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5358.0,"score_ratio":9.4285714286}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsxhabj","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617207870,"score_A":66,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2462.0,"score_ratio":9.4285714286}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsx1foj","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617200563,"score_A":66,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9769.0,"score_ratio":16.5}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsx8xqh","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617204107,"score_A":66,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6225.0,"score_ratio":22.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxcf0c","c_root_id_B":"gsxmsuz","created_at_utc_A":1617205681,"created_at_utc_B":1617210332,"score_A":3,"score_B":66,"human_ref_A":"I'm so very sorry.","human_ref_B":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4651.0,"score_ratio":22.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxmsuz","c_root_id_B":"gsxfklm","created_at_utc_A":1617210332,"created_at_utc_B":1617207100,"score_A":66,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I am an ER vet. I got really nervous when I read the first line of your post \"My boy died on the operating table.\" I was already bracing myself for a post blaming the vet, which is what happens to us every. single. day. Even with circumstances outside our control.  Just wanted to write to say thank you- thank you for fighting for your boy, and understanding that your vet was fighting just as hard too- losing a patient hurts every time and we carry the burden of that daily. Your last line made me cry. So thank you.  And I am so sorry for the loss of your pup- he sounds incredibly special and he was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"So feel your pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3232.0,"score_ratio":22.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx1foj","c_root_id_B":"gsx2k97","created_at_utc_A":1617200563,"created_at_utc_B":1617201108,"score_A":4,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","human_ref_B":"This is so sad!  But please remember all the good times you had and how much you were loved by Gus and vice versa. You gave him a good life and when you are at your saddest, try to think of special times with him. And when it\u2019s time, bring another little guy into your life. Gus would want you to.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":545.0,"score_ratio":7.75}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx86fv","c_root_id_B":"gsx1foj","created_at_utc_A":1617203760,"created_at_utc_B":1617200563,"score_A":13,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. I just commented on your original post not knowing this update was here. You did everything you could, and your vet did everything they could. I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3197.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx8g2n","c_root_id_B":"gsx97ch","created_at_utc_A":1617203883,"created_at_utc_B":1617204229,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am so so sorry for your loss! You are the most amazing owner and you did everything right. It\u2019s not fair to lose our best friends, especially so young. Sending love and healing vibes your way today!","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find this beautiful connection with another dog, one day. Stay strong, friend","labels":0,"seconds_difference":346.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx97ch","c_root_id_B":"gsx1foj","created_at_utc_A":1617204229,"created_at_utc_B":1617200563,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am so so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find this beautiful connection with another dog, one day. Stay strong, friend","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3666.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx8xqh","c_root_id_B":"gsx97ch","created_at_utc_A":1617204107,"created_at_utc_B":1617204229,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. :(","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find this beautiful connection with another dog, one day. Stay strong, friend","labels":0,"seconds_difference":122.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxau8b","c_root_id_B":"gsx8g2n","created_at_utc_A":1617204974,"created_at_utc_B":1617203883,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Man I can't fathom how awful you guys must be feeling now, but hold on to the positive memories  with Gus, not the trauma of the last few days, I'm truly sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss! You are the most amazing owner and you did everything right. It\u2019s not fair to lose our best friends, especially so young. Sending love and healing vibes your way today!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1091.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxhabj","c_root_id_B":"gsx8g2n","created_at_utc_A":1617207870,"created_at_utc_B":1617203883,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","human_ref_B":"I am so so sorry for your loss! You are the most amazing owner and you did everything right. It\u2019s not fair to lose our best friends, especially so young. Sending love and healing vibes your way today!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3987.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx8g2n","c_root_id_B":"gsx1foj","created_at_utc_A":1617203883,"created_at_utc_B":1617200563,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am so so sorry for your loss! You are the most amazing owner and you did everything right. It\u2019s not fair to lose our best friends, especially so young. Sending love and healing vibes your way today!","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3320.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx1foj","c_root_id_B":"gsxau8b","created_at_utc_A":1617200563,"created_at_utc_B":1617204974,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","human_ref_B":"Man I can't fathom how awful you guys must be feeling now, but hold on to the positive memories  with Gus, not the trauma of the last few days, I'm truly sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4411.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxau8b","c_root_id_B":"gsx8xqh","created_at_utc_A":1617204974,"created_at_utc_B":1617204107,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Man I can't fathom how awful you guys must be feeling now, but hold on to the positive memories  with Gus, not the trauma of the last few days, I'm truly sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":867.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxhabj","c_root_id_B":"gsx1foj","created_at_utc_A":1617207870,"created_at_utc_B":1617200563,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7307.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx8xqh","c_root_id_B":"gsxhabj","created_at_utc_A":1617204107,"created_at_utc_B":1617207870,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. :(","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3763.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxhabj","c_root_id_B":"gsxcf0c","created_at_utc_A":1617207870,"created_at_utc_B":1617205681,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","human_ref_B":"I'm so very sorry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2189.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxhabj","c_root_id_B":"gsxfklm","created_at_utc_A":1617207870,"created_at_utc_B":1617207100,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss! Gus sounded like such a strong good boy and I hope you can find peace in knowing that you did absolutely everything in your power that you could. Sending love from another vet. <3","human_ref_B":"So feel your pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":770.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsx1foj","c_root_id_B":"gsxnx7v","created_at_utc_A":1617200563,"created_at_utc_B":1617210836,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"So sorry to hear this :( Condolences.","human_ref_B":"My condolences to you & all your family.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10273.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxnx7v","c_root_id_B":"gsx8xqh","created_at_utc_A":1617210836,"created_at_utc_B":1617204107,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My condolences to you & all your family.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6729.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxnx7v","c_root_id_B":"gsxcf0c","created_at_utc_A":1617210836,"created_at_utc_B":1617205681,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My condolences to you & all your family.","human_ref_B":"I'm so very sorry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5155.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mh3qlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your vet - update original post here     My boy died on the operating table.   They rushed the close-up of him as he was reacting badly to the anaesthetic. The fight had left his body.   Obviously I am in shock.   I finished high school homeless. I have family, but they are not close. My wife and my two dogs are my family.      Gus was different.      When I was feeling my loneliest, isolated from COVID, Gus was there.      My other dog has a special relationship with my wife. If my wife shows any emotion, Bella (our other lab) is there, sitting on her chest. Comforting her. She loves me, but she *loves* my wife.      When I feel my most rejected. In my darkest place, Gus is there. We had such a strong bond. Honestly, I am closer to him than I have ever been to another living thing.      Tonight I am alone.   &#x200B;  The vets and the staff did everything they could. We bought Bella with us to say goodbye.      There was not a dry eye in the house.     I want to thank each and every member of a vet team. You are so special.","c_root_id_A":"gsxfklm","c_root_id_B":"gsxnx7v","created_at_utc_A":1617207100,"created_at_utc_B":1617210836,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"So feel your pain.","human_ref_B":"My condolences to you & all your family.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3736.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"vmyl2z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Veterinary Surgeon did surgery on the wrong leg. What should I expect? The surgery was to fix my dog's luxating patella on his right leg. He came out of surgery and to our surprise had his left leg operated on (which had no need for surgery now or in the future.) We're currently trying to remain coolheaded after just paying over $4k for this. He will essentially have a non-functional left leg while his bad leg now holds the majority of his weight for 2 months... followed by a repeat for the actual bad leg. Is it unreasonable to expect both surgeries to be free\\refunded considering the situation and pain and suffering the poor guy will go through? I know shit happens but it doesn't make any of this any more ok.","c_root_id_A":"ie3wopy","c_root_id_B":"ie49tvs","created_at_utc_A":1656452207,"created_at_utc_B":1656458042,"score_A":2,"score_B":344,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"This should be immediately escalated to the practice manager. You should be asking 1) what went wrong causing the wrong leg to be operated on, 2) what protocols were violated (if any) allowing this to happen, 3) how are they changing their protocols to prevent a repeat, and 4) how will you be compensated (e.g. refund, future surgery is free,).  Keep a level head, this is obviously upsetting and I would be extremely upset in your shoes. If you do not feel that the practice manager approaches this correctly, then the escalation above that is reporting to the state veterinary board.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5835.0,"score_ratio":172.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esta369","c_root_id_B":"est94dl","created_at_utc_A":1562264293,"created_at_utc_B":1562263898,"score_A":82,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for doing this. Please consider pinning this to the front page for newcomers.   There are a few key points in your post that I've been sharing, but it's been met with a ton of hostility. Would love some pointers\/brainstorming on how to get the message through to people who refuse to believe.","human_ref_B":"Thank you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":395.0,"score_ratio":11.7142857143}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estdf5v","c_root_id_B":"est94dl","created_at_utc_A":1562265519,"created_at_utc_B":1562263898,"score_A":30,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Question - if a dog is eating a non-grain-free variety of one of the named brands, is that still considered safe? Neither of mine are, but I\u2019ve been hearing a lot of different things.","human_ref_B":"Thank you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1621.0,"score_ratio":4.2857142857}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esty702","c_root_id_B":"estq3tw","created_at_utc_A":1562275066,"created_at_utc_B":1562271605,"score_A":15,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","human_ref_B":"Is there a good\/trusted source to review and compare dog foods?   My girls are eating Nature's Domain so I'd like to switch them to something new but want to make sure it's good.   #   Easiest switch would be to Kirkland Lamb, Rice, and Vegetable since I can keep shopping at Costco and getting 30-40lb bags.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3461.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"est94dl","c_root_id_B":"estq3tw","created_at_utc_A":1562263898,"created_at_utc_B":1562271605,"score_A":7,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Thank you.","human_ref_B":"Is there a good\/trusted source to review and compare dog foods?   My girls are eating Nature's Domain so I'd like to switch them to something new but want to make sure it's good.   #   Easiest switch would be to Kirkland Lamb, Rice, and Vegetable since I can keep shopping at Costco and getting 30-40lb bags.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7707.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estq3tw","c_root_id_B":"estgnxs","created_at_utc_A":1562271605,"created_at_utc_B":1562267018,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Is there a good\/trusted source to review and compare dog foods?   My girls are eating Nature's Domain so I'd like to switch them to something new but want to make sure it's good.   #   Easiest switch would be to Kirkland Lamb, Rice, and Vegetable since I can keep shopping at Costco and getting 30-40lb bags.","human_ref_B":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4587.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estq3tw","c_root_id_B":"estobfd","created_at_utc_A":1562271605,"created_at_utc_B":1562270604,"score_A":14,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Is there a good\/trusted source to review and compare dog foods?   My girls are eating Nature's Domain so I'd like to switch them to something new but want to make sure it's good.   #   Easiest switch would be to Kirkland Lamb, Rice, and Vegetable since I can keep shopping at Costco and getting 30-40lb bags.","human_ref_B":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1001.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esty702","c_root_id_B":"estsjt8","created_at_utc_A":1562275066,"created_at_utc_B":1562272867,"score_A":15,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","human_ref_B":"What about cats and grain free diets?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2199.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"est94dl","c_root_id_B":"estsjt8","created_at_utc_A":1562263898,"created_at_utc_B":1562272867,"score_A":7,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Thank you.","human_ref_B":"What about cats and grain free diets?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8969.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estsjt8","c_root_id_B":"estgnxs","created_at_utc_A":1562272867,"created_at_utc_B":1562267018,"score_A":12,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"What about cats and grain free diets?","human_ref_B":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5849.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estsjt8","c_root_id_B":"estobfd","created_at_utc_A":1562272867,"created_at_utc_B":1562270604,"score_A":12,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"What about cats and grain free diets?","human_ref_B":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2263.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estuwlz","c_root_id_B":"esty702","created_at_utc_A":1562273795,"created_at_utc_B":1562275066,"score_A":7,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"This may have been asked before, but I didn't see it on the previous post about this. We can't afford science diet, royal canin, or Purina pro plan right now. The most we can do right now is about $30 to $35 for a 25lb bag. We currently do Wholehearted grain free food, but I'm interested in switching after reading this. What are some more affordable options that are still good?","human_ref_B":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1271.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"est94dl","c_root_id_B":"esty702","created_at_utc_A":1562263898,"created_at_utc_B":1562275066,"score_A":7,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Thank you.","human_ref_B":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11168.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estgnxs","c_root_id_B":"esty702","created_at_utc_A":1562267018,"created_at_utc_B":1562275066,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","human_ref_B":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8048.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esty702","c_root_id_B":"estobfd","created_at_utc_A":1562275066,"created_at_utc_B":1562270604,"score_A":15,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I have just switched my dog from TOTW that she's been on for 2 years to Purina Pro Plan.  Planning on getting an echo soon.  Dog is 12 and no visible symptoms.","human_ref_B":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4462.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eszoctm","c_root_id_B":"estuwlz","created_at_utc_A":1562365259,"created_at_utc_B":1562273795,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","human_ref_B":"This may have been asked before, but I didn't see it on the previous post about this. We can't afford science diet, royal canin, or Purina pro plan right now. The most we can do right now is about $30 to $35 for a 25lb bag. We currently do Wholehearted grain free food, but I'm interested in switching after reading this. What are some more affordable options that are still good?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":91464.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esugymy","c_root_id_B":"eszoctm","created_at_utc_A":1562283293,"created_at_utc_B":1562365259,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My dog is on Fromm Adult Gold - which is not a grain-free food. Is this considered a boutique company or exotic diet? I am wondering if I should be concerned about this food or not.","human_ref_B":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","labels":0,"seconds_difference":81966.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"est94dl","c_root_id_B":"eszoctm","created_at_utc_A":1562263898,"created_at_utc_B":1562365259,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Thank you.","human_ref_B":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","labels":0,"seconds_difference":101361.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eszoctm","c_root_id_B":"estgnxs","created_at_utc_A":1562365259,"created_at_utc_B":1562267018,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","human_ref_B":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":98241.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eszoctm","c_root_id_B":"esuwvqo","created_at_utc_A":1562365259,"created_at_utc_B":1562290190,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","human_ref_B":"I have a bag of the affected food sitting in my kitchen right now. I'll be making a switch and discarding the unused portion. Thank you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":75069.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esve3dg","c_root_id_B":"eszoctm","created_at_utc_A":1562297640,"created_at_utc_B":1562365259,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Questions - per FDA, absence of grains is a pattern linked to DCM, then if owner add grains on top of the grain-free food, does that mitigate the risk?  Also, the data shows a list of specific breeds and mix breed. Is it fair to say pure breeds are at more risk of health condition due to them being \"pure\"?","human_ref_B":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","labels":0,"seconds_difference":67619.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estobfd","c_root_id_B":"eszoctm","created_at_utc_A":1562270604,"created_at_utc_B":1562365259,"score_A":4,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","human_ref_B":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","labels":0,"seconds_difference":94655.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eszoctm","c_root_id_B":"esw98i7","created_at_utc_A":1562365259,"created_at_utc_B":1562311132,"score_A":10,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Ughhh  this is crazy . Acana is bad and yet somehow the cheap food I have in Kirkland is good.  I'm in Canada and so lost as in what to buy now .","human_ref_B":"I have two questions:  1) What about grain free treats? We buy our dog a selection of treats and mix them up. I noticed in the shop the other day that many types are now grain free, should we be avoiding those as well?  2) We changed our dog from TOTW to James Wellbeloved when we first heard about this. However, she isn't a big fan of it. I just bought a bag of \"Purina Beyond\". Did I accidentally buy a GF kibble? It mentions barley on the label.  Thanks for doing this, it's really helpful!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":54127.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esugymy","c_root_id_B":"estuwlz","created_at_utc_A":1562283293,"created_at_utc_B":1562273795,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"My dog is on Fromm Adult Gold - which is not a grain-free food. Is this considered a boutique company or exotic diet? I am wondering if I should be concerned about this food or not.","human_ref_B":"This may have been asked before, but I didn't see it on the previous post about this. We can't afford science diet, royal canin, or Purina pro plan right now. The most we can do right now is about $30 to $35 for a 25lb bag. We currently do Wholehearted grain free food, but I'm interested in switching after reading this. What are some more affordable options that are still good?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9498.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estuwlz","c_root_id_B":"estgnxs","created_at_utc_A":1562273795,"created_at_utc_B":1562267018,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"This may have been asked before, but I didn't see it on the previous post about this. We can't afford science diet, royal canin, or Purina pro plan right now. The most we can do right now is about $30 to $35 for a 25lb bag. We currently do Wholehearted grain free food, but I'm interested in switching after reading this. What are some more affordable options that are still good?","human_ref_B":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6777.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estobfd","c_root_id_B":"estuwlz","created_at_utc_A":1562270604,"created_at_utc_B":1562273795,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","human_ref_B":"This may have been asked before, but I didn't see it on the previous post about this. We can't afford science diet, royal canin, or Purina pro plan right now. The most we can do right now is about $30 to $35 for a 25lb bag. We currently do Wholehearted grain free food, but I'm interested in switching after reading this. What are some more affordable options that are still good?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3191.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"est94dl","c_root_id_B":"esugymy","created_at_utc_A":1562263898,"created_at_utc_B":1562283293,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Thank you.","human_ref_B":"My dog is on Fromm Adult Gold - which is not a grain-free food. Is this considered a boutique company or exotic diet? I am wondering if I should be concerned about this food or not.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19395.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esugymy","c_root_id_B":"estgnxs","created_at_utc_A":1562283293,"created_at_utc_B":1562267018,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"My dog is on Fromm Adult Gold - which is not a grain-free food. Is this considered a boutique company or exotic diet? I am wondering if I should be concerned about this food or not.","human_ref_B":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16275.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estobfd","c_root_id_B":"esugymy","created_at_utc_A":1562270604,"created_at_utc_B":1562283293,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","human_ref_B":"My dog is on Fromm Adult Gold - which is not a grain-free food. Is this considered a boutique company or exotic diet? I am wondering if I should be concerned about this food or not.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12689.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estgnxs","c_root_id_B":"esuwvqo","created_at_utc_A":1562267018,"created_at_utc_B":1562290190,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Question- It said grain free, specifically things with lots of peas, legumes and potatoes. So if you didn't give those things to dogs, would the risk still be there?","human_ref_B":"I have a bag of the affected food sitting in my kitchen right now. I'll be making a switch and discarding the unused portion. Thank you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23172.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estobfd","c_root_id_B":"esuwvqo","created_at_utc_A":1562270604,"created_at_utc_B":1562290190,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","human_ref_B":"I have a bag of the affected food sitting in my kitchen right now. I'll be making a switch and discarding the unused portion. Thank you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19586.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eus94ie","c_root_id_B":"esve3dg","created_at_utc_A":1564004907,"created_at_utc_B":1562297640,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I just wanted to thank you for this post and the responses. After my vet had recommended one of the grain free brands on the FDA's list, I was feeling pretty lost on what to do next. I'm thinking about switching to Hill's science diet after reading this and the sidebar!","human_ref_B":"Questions - per FDA, absence of grains is a pattern linked to DCM, then if owner add grains on top of the grain-free food, does that mitigate the risk?  Also, the data shows a list of specific breeds and mix breed. Is it fair to say pure breeds are at more risk of health condition due to them being \"pure\"?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1707267.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"esve3dg","c_root_id_B":"estobfd","created_at_utc_A":1562297640,"created_at_utc_B":1562270604,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Questions - per FDA, absence of grains is a pattern linked to DCM, then if owner add grains on top of the grain-free food, does that mitigate the risk?  Also, the data shows a list of specific breeds and mix breed. Is it fair to say pure breeds are at more risk of health condition due to them being \"pure\"?","human_ref_B":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27036.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eus94ie","c_root_id_B":"estobfd","created_at_utc_A":1564004907,"created_at_utc_B":1562270604,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I just wanted to thank you for this post and the responses. After my vet had recommended one of the grain free brands on the FDA's list, I was feeling pretty lost on what to do next. I'm thinking about switching to Hill's science diet after reading this and the sidebar!","human_ref_B":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1734303.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"eus94ie","c_root_id_B":"esw98i7","created_at_utc_A":1564004907,"created_at_utc_B":1562311132,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I just wanted to thank you for this post and the responses. After my vet had recommended one of the grain free brands on the FDA's list, I was feeling pretty lost on what to do next. I'm thinking about switching to Hill's science diet after reading this and the sidebar!","human_ref_B":"I have two questions:  1) What about grain free treats? We buy our dog a selection of treats and mix them up. I noticed in the shop the other day that many types are now grain free, should we be avoiding those as well?  2) We changed our dog from TOTW to James Wellbeloved when we first heard about this. However, she isn't a big fan of it. I just bought a bag of \"Purina Beyond\". Did I accidentally buy a GF kibble? It mentions barley on the label.  Thanks for doing this, it's really helpful!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1693775.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"etjo1la","c_root_id_B":"eus94ie","created_at_utc_A":1562877672,"created_at_utc_B":1564004907,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I changed my French bulldog over to science diet last week.   I have 30 pounds of high end grain free food in a bucket with no idea what to do with it. It doesn't seem right to even donate it to a shelter, but man... Throwing out that much money is going to kill me!!","human_ref_B":"I just wanted to thank you for this post and the responses. After my vet had recommended one of the grain free brands on the FDA's list, I was feeling pretty lost on what to do next. I'm thinking about switching to Hill's science diet after reading this and the sidebar!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1127235.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"c94z0x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"META] Grain Free Dog Food and DCM Risk We have been getting a lot of questions regarding this issue, so here is an overview of what we currently know and recommend:  * [There have been credible reports that feeding grain free dog food is linked to an increased risk of DCM, which is a potentially fatal heart disease.  * The empirical data show a clear DCM risk increase associated with grain free dog food. Therefore, the current best evidence-based recommendation is to not feed grain free dog food until further notice. * Anything related to the exact mechanism that causes DCM is speculation at this point. What we know is that \"grain free\" is the best predictor of DCM risk, which is what matters in practice at the moment.  * There has been a lot of \"manufactured controversy\" trying to distract owners from this basic fact, which should be ignored: We don't need to understand the mechanism behind the effect in order to observe that the effect is real. * If you feed a grain-free food on the FDA list, the recommendation is to switch foods gradually over a few days as with any other food switch in order to avoid GI upset. * Please check our FAQ and side bar for plenty of science-based resources on how to choose a good dog food.  As mentioned above, the FDA has now also released a list of affected foods. Ordered by the highest to the lowest number of DCM cases, they are:  * Acana * Zignature * Taste of the Wild * 4Health * Earthborn Holistic * Blue Buffalo * Nature\u2019s Domain * Fromm * Merrick * California Natural * Natural Balance * Orijen * Nature\u2019s Variety * NutriSource * Nutro * Rachael Ray Nutrish","c_root_id_A":"estobfd","c_root_id_B":"esw98i7","created_at_utc_A":1562270604,"created_at_utc_B":1562311132,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"My dog food was listed as second worst and I spent days upon days trying to research the best grain free dog food available. I switched off Blue Buffalo and then Taste of the Wild all due to recall concerns and thought Zignature was a great option. Now I\u2019m lost. I\u2019m open to no longer feeding them grain free (after probably 10 years) but I don\u2019t know what food or brand to get. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Every google search has yielded different answers.","human_ref_B":"I have two questions:  1) What about grain free treats? We buy our dog a selection of treats and mix them up. I noticed in the shop the other day that many types are now grain free, should we be avoiding those as well?  2) We changed our dog from TOTW to James Wellbeloved when we first heard about this. However, she isn't a big fan of it. I just bought a bag of \"Purina Beyond\". Did I accidentally buy a GF kibble? It mentions barley on the label.  Thanks for doing this, it's really helpful!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":40528.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnie2n","c_root_id_B":"fpo1jgq","created_at_utc_A":1588763906,"created_at_utc_B":1588776697,"score_A":31,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"I am so very sorry for you loss\ud83d\udc3e\ud83d\udc9c\ud83d\udc3e","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss \u2764\ufe0f  Thank you for taking the time to write this. I really needed to hear that someone appreciates us.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12791.0,"score_ratio":1.2258064516}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnwm31","c_root_id_B":"fpo1jgq","created_at_utc_A":1588774060,"created_at_utc_B":1588776697,"score_A":4,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss \u2764\ufe0f  Thank you for taking the time to write this. I really needed to hear that someone appreciates us.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2637.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpohfc7","c_root_id_B":"fpoup28","created_at_utc_A":1588784548,"created_at_utc_B":1588790976,"score_A":17,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"We recently encountered the kindness and care of a vet too.  It made a huge difference to me as there are so many news stories now about utterly callous people.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for writing this. As a vet tech I do a lot of the holding\/petting\/loving on pets in their last moments when the owners can\u2019t be there for whatever reason. It nice to know it really is appreciated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6428.0,"score_ratio":1.8235294118}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpoftfg","c_root_id_B":"fpoup28","created_at_utc_A":1588783775,"created_at_utc_B":1588790976,"score_A":10,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Sending you and your daughter love during this hard time. Blessed be.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for writing this. As a vet tech I do a lot of the holding\/petting\/loving on pets in their last moments when the owners can\u2019t be there for whatever reason. It nice to know it really is appreciated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7201.0,"score_ratio":3.1}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpoup28","c_root_id_B":"fpo4g3w","created_at_utc_A":1588790976,"created_at_utc_B":1588778196,"score_A":31,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for writing this. As a vet tech I do a lot of the holding\/petting\/loving on pets in their last moments when the owners can\u2019t be there for whatever reason. It nice to know it really is appreciated.","human_ref_B":"Sorry for your loss :( \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12780.0,"score_ratio":4.4285714286}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpotk73","c_root_id_B":"fpoup28","created_at_utc_A":1588790420,"created_at_utc_B":1588790976,"score_A":5,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Oh this brought tears to my eyes. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss and that you couldn\u2019t be there but I\u2019m so glad she had that comfort at the end. Sending an internet hug.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for writing this. As a vet tech I do a lot of the holding\/petting\/loving on pets in their last moments when the owners can\u2019t be there for whatever reason. It nice to know it really is appreciated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":556.0,"score_ratio":6.2}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnwm31","c_root_id_B":"fpoup28","created_at_utc_A":1588774060,"created_at_utc_B":1588790976,"score_A":4,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"Thank you for writing this. As a vet tech I do a lot of the holding\/petting\/loving on pets in their last moments when the owners can\u2019t be there for whatever reason. It nice to know it really is appreciated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16916.0,"score_ratio":7.75}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpohfc7","c_root_id_B":"fpoftfg","created_at_utc_A":1588784548,"created_at_utc_B":1588783775,"score_A":17,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"We recently encountered the kindness and care of a vet too.  It made a huge difference to me as there are so many news stories now about utterly callous people.","human_ref_B":"Sending you and your daughter love during this hard time. Blessed be.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":773.0,"score_ratio":1.7}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpohfc7","c_root_id_B":"fpo4g3w","created_at_utc_A":1588784548,"created_at_utc_B":1588778196,"score_A":17,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"We recently encountered the kindness and care of a vet too.  It made a huge difference to me as there are so many news stories now about utterly callous people.","human_ref_B":"Sorry for your loss :( \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6352.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpohfc7","c_root_id_B":"fpnwm31","created_at_utc_A":1588784548,"created_at_utc_B":1588774060,"score_A":17,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"We recently encountered the kindness and care of a vet too.  It made a huge difference to me as there are so many news stories now about utterly callous people.","human_ref_B":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10488.0,"score_ratio":4.25}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpo4g3w","c_root_id_B":"fpoftfg","created_at_utc_A":1588778196,"created_at_utc_B":1588783775,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Sorry for your loss :( \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"Sending you and your daughter love during this hard time. Blessed be.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5579.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpoftfg","c_root_id_B":"fpnwm31","created_at_utc_A":1588783775,"created_at_utc_B":1588774060,"score_A":10,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Sending you and your daughter love during this hard time. Blessed be.","human_ref_B":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9715.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpo4g3w","c_root_id_B":"fpnwm31","created_at_utc_A":1588778196,"created_at_utc_B":1588774060,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Sorry for your loss :( \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4136.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpotk73","c_root_id_B":"fpp7y8l","created_at_utc_A":1588790420,"created_at_utc_B":1588797523,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Oh this brought tears to my eyes. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss and that you couldn\u2019t be there but I\u2019m so glad she had that comfort at the end. Sending an internet hug.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. Last week we had to send one of our cats to the Rainbow Bridge and she had to go in alone as well. It was so heartbreaking seeing her look at me pleading not to let her go in the vets office. Hearing her cries made it even harder. I know she wouldn't recover from the mass she had in her intestine so that was the only thing that got me through it knowing I was doing the right thing even if it hurt so much. They came out and told me that she went peacefully. I to am grateful for the care they gave her all the way to the end. I know it hurts us to lose our fur babies but I can't imagine what vets have to go through because I know most of them are pet parents as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7103.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpotk73","c_root_id_B":"fppwy9s","created_at_utc_A":1588790420,"created_at_utc_B":1588810764,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Oh this brought tears to my eyes. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss and that you couldn\u2019t be there but I\u2019m so glad she had that comfort at the end. Sending an internet hug.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20344.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnwm31","c_root_id_B":"fpotk73","created_at_utc_A":1588774060,"created_at_utc_B":1588790420,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"Oh this brought tears to my eyes. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss and that you couldn\u2019t be there but I\u2019m so glad she had that comfort at the end. Sending an internet hug.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16360.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnwm31","c_root_id_B":"fpp7y8l","created_at_utc_A":1588774060,"created_at_utc_B":1588797523,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. Last week we had to send one of our cats to the Rainbow Bridge and she had to go in alone as well. It was so heartbreaking seeing her look at me pleading not to let her go in the vets office. Hearing her cries made it even harder. I know she wouldn't recover from the mass she had in her intestine so that was the only thing that got me through it knowing I was doing the right thing even if it hurt so much. They came out and told me that she went peacefully. I to am grateful for the care they gave her all the way to the end. I know it hurts us to lose our fur babies but I can't imagine what vets have to go through because I know most of them are pet parents as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23463.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpp79vt","c_root_id_B":"fpp7y8l","created_at_utc_A":1588797195,"created_at_utc_B":1588797523,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for you loss. My golden retriever died unexpectedly last month. It\u2019s a total shock, you get blind sided but a huge wave of sadness.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. Last week we had to send one of our cats to the Rainbow Bridge and she had to go in alone as well. It was so heartbreaking seeing her look at me pleading not to let her go in the vets office. Hearing her cries made it even harder. I know she wouldn't recover from the mass she had in her intestine so that was the only thing that got me through it knowing I was doing the right thing even if it hurt so much. They came out and told me that she went peacefully. I to am grateful for the care they gave her all the way to the end. I know it hurts us to lose our fur babies but I can't imagine what vets have to go through because I know most of them are pet parents as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":328.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpp7y8l","c_root_id_B":"fpp3az9","created_at_utc_A":1588797523,"created_at_utc_B":1588795213,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. Last week we had to send one of our cats to the Rainbow Bridge and she had to go in alone as well. It was so heartbreaking seeing her look at me pleading not to let her go in the vets office. Hearing her cries made it even harder. I know she wouldn't recover from the mass she had in her intestine so that was the only thing that got me through it knowing I was doing the right thing even if it hurt so much. They came out and told me that she went peacefully. I to am grateful for the care they gave her all the way to the end. I know it hurts us to lose our fur babies but I can't imagine what vets have to go through because I know most of them are pet parents as well.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear that you loved her very much, and she was lucky to have you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2310.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpnwm31","c_root_id_B":"fppwy9s","created_at_utc_A":1588774060,"created_at_utc_B":1588810764,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":36704.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppwy9s","c_root_id_B":"fpp79vt","created_at_utc_A":1588810764,"created_at_utc_B":1588797195,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for you loss. My golden retriever died unexpectedly last month. It\u2019s a total shock, you get blind sided but a huge wave of sadness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13569.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppwy9s","c_root_id_B":"fppqlib","created_at_utc_A":1588810764,"created_at_utc_B":1588807248,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","human_ref_B":"We had to put our baby girl down in January, before all this happened. And I know that the vets see families go through this all the time, but they were so gentle and caring, and it still brings me to tears thinking about them. Even though it was before all this happened, I want to also say thank you. It can\u2019t be easy watching an animal pass and the grief of the family. \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3516.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppwy9s","c_root_id_B":"fppbad3","created_at_utc_A":1588810764,"created_at_utc_B":1588799174,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. Losing a pet under any situation is never easy. I\u2019m glad that kind ver staff took such good care of your baby.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11590.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppwy9s","c_root_id_B":"fpp3az9","created_at_utc_A":1588810764,"created_at_utc_B":1588795213,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m very sorry for your loss.  Thank you for sharing, I\u2019m a vet and had a pretty tough day, I needed the reminder that what we do means something to people.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear that you loved her very much, and she was lucky to have you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15551.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpp79vt","c_root_id_B":"fpnwm31","created_at_utc_A":1588797195,"created_at_utc_B":1588774060,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for you loss. My golden retriever died unexpectedly last month. It\u2019s a total shock, you get blind sided but a huge wave of sadness.","human_ref_B":"sorry for your loss! :(\u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23135.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpp79vt","c_root_id_B":"fpp3az9","created_at_utc_A":1588797195,"created_at_utc_B":1588795213,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for you loss. My golden retriever died unexpectedly last month. It\u2019s a total shock, you get blind sided but a huge wave of sadness.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear that you loved her very much, and she was lucky to have you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1982.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppbad3","c_root_id_B":"fppqlib","created_at_utc_A":1588799174,"created_at_utc_B":1588807248,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. Losing a pet under any situation is never easy. I\u2019m glad that kind ver staff took such good care of your baby.","human_ref_B":"We had to put our baby girl down in January, before all this happened. And I know that the vets see families go through this all the time, but they were so gentle and caring, and it still brings me to tears thinking about them. Even though it was before all this happened, I want to also say thank you. It can\u2019t be easy watching an animal pass and the grief of the family. \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8074.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fppqlib","c_root_id_B":"fpp3az9","created_at_utc_A":1588807248,"created_at_utc_B":1588795213,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"We had to put our baby girl down in January, before all this happened. And I know that the vets see families go through this all the time, but they were so gentle and caring, and it still brings me to tears thinking about them. Even though it was before all this happened, I want to also say thank you. It can\u2019t be easy watching an animal pass and the grief of the family. \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear that you loved her very much, and she was lucky to have you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12035.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"gee3co","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you My dog died this week, we sought care before she passed at a small vet clinic.  When we took her there we didn\u2019t know it would be our last time seeing her alive. Due to COVID it was all curb service.  We ran into about 7 other customers in the parking lot.   3\/7 from what I know ended up in the same heartbreaking situation.   It suddenly struck me that the deaths experienced in my state due to COVID are the conditions that vets have to deal with all year round.   The amount of tragedy and heartbreak.  That vet clinic was so sweet to me and my 18 year old daughter.   The sincerity and patience they had was amazing.  She was being put in for oxygen therapy and when they called later to say we wouldn\u2019t have enough time to make it before she would pass, they held her for me.  She was loved and I am so thankful that they were there with her, she deserved that humanity. From the bottom of my heart thank you for the love and kindness all vets show to these precious members of our families.  Thank you so so much.","c_root_id_A":"fpp3az9","c_root_id_B":"fppbad3","created_at_utc_A":1588795213,"created_at_utc_B":1588799174,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear that you loved her very much, and she was lucky to have you.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss. Losing a pet under any situation is never easy. I\u2019m glad that kind ver staff took such good care of your baby.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3961.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"kxl2xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My kitten died under vet\u2019s care Hi, I\u2019ll try to sum this up quickly. I took my kitty to the vet on Wednesday for the first time to receive 2 vaccines, receive a wellness exam, and to schedule a neutering appointment for the future. The vet asked if he\u2019s fixed, I said no, and she asked if I wanted to do it today, that he\u2019d be ready in less than an hour, and the procedure would take less than 10 minutes. It sounded convenient to me, and she was pushing that it would be perfect because he\u2019d be asleep while they administered the vaccines\u2014FVCRP and leukemia. They took him off to the other room to be put under anesthesia and get fixed. The wellness exam did not occur prior to this. The only thing they did was weigh him and the vet noted that he is \u201cvery skinny.\u201d They also did not ask when he last ate. They still went forward with the surgery despite noting his low weight and that he had diarrhea the past three weeks, as I had explained to them. About 45 minutes later, I received a call that he was \u201cnot doing so well and the vet is currently administering CPR.\u201d I went straight there and they said he had died, but they do not know why. They said the surgery went fine and that he was placed in a kennel to recover. They later noticed that he was \u201ctaking a long time to recover\u201d and was \u201cpouring out diarrhea.\u201d They then began CPR and administering life-saving drugs but to no avail. They still do not know the cause of death, but considering everything they have told me and the events leading up to the procedure (as well as the vet\u2019s poor record with previous clients) I am suspicious of malpractice. The vet explained that she believed the loss of fluids from the diarrhea \u201cpouring out\u201d caused his death, but does that not mean he was dead before his bowels began releasing? And if so, then I suspect he was not monitored closely enough after the surgery. I do not know the standards of veterinary practice, but considering how my kitty was not exactly well (his diarrhea) and underweight, as noted by the vet herself, should he really have been whisked away to go under anesthesia right then? I feel the vet was careless in her judgement, trusting that because it\u2019s a routine procedure everything would be fine. Obviously this has been a very difficult time, and I don\u2019t want to blame someone just because I\u2019m angry. But with the details surrounding his death being so hazy, I am wondering if I have grounds to sure or file a claim against this vet and if this was considered malpractice. Any responses are appreciated. Thank you","c_root_id_A":"gjb1bvu","c_root_id_B":"gjawmjf","created_at_utc_A":1610681192,"created_at_utc_B":1610678639,"score_A":278,"score_B":253,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you wamt foremsic necropsy done. This is done by an outside organization and is fully documented.   Then request complete medical records including drs notes.   They absolutly should not have done surgery knowing he was underweight snd sick","human_ref_B":"There is absolutely no way to conclude anything without a necropsy to determine the cause of death. You can request a necropsy done by a veterinary pathologist at another location (this is often offered by teaching hospitals or reference labs). I am so sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2553.0,"score_ratio":1.0988142292}
{"post_id":"kxl2xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My kitten died under vet\u2019s care Hi, I\u2019ll try to sum this up quickly. I took my kitty to the vet on Wednesday for the first time to receive 2 vaccines, receive a wellness exam, and to schedule a neutering appointment for the future. The vet asked if he\u2019s fixed, I said no, and she asked if I wanted to do it today, that he\u2019d be ready in less than an hour, and the procedure would take less than 10 minutes. It sounded convenient to me, and she was pushing that it would be perfect because he\u2019d be asleep while they administered the vaccines\u2014FVCRP and leukemia. They took him off to the other room to be put under anesthesia and get fixed. The wellness exam did not occur prior to this. The only thing they did was weigh him and the vet noted that he is \u201cvery skinny.\u201d They also did not ask when he last ate. They still went forward with the surgery despite noting his low weight and that he had diarrhea the past three weeks, as I had explained to them. About 45 minutes later, I received a call that he was \u201cnot doing so well and the vet is currently administering CPR.\u201d I went straight there and they said he had died, but they do not know why. They said the surgery went fine and that he was placed in a kennel to recover. They later noticed that he was \u201ctaking a long time to recover\u201d and was \u201cpouring out diarrhea.\u201d They then began CPR and administering life-saving drugs but to no avail. They still do not know the cause of death, but considering everything they have told me and the events leading up to the procedure (as well as the vet\u2019s poor record with previous clients) I am suspicious of malpractice. The vet explained that she believed the loss of fluids from the diarrhea \u201cpouring out\u201d caused his death, but does that not mean he was dead before his bowels began releasing? And if so, then I suspect he was not monitored closely enough after the surgery. I do not know the standards of veterinary practice, but considering how my kitty was not exactly well (his diarrhea) and underweight, as noted by the vet herself, should he really have been whisked away to go under anesthesia right then? I feel the vet was careless in her judgement, trusting that because it\u2019s a routine procedure everything would be fine. Obviously this has been a very difficult time, and I don\u2019t want to blame someone just because I\u2019m angry. But with the details surrounding his death being so hazy, I am wondering if I have grounds to sure or file a claim against this vet and if this was considered malpractice. Any responses are appreciated. Thank you","c_root_id_A":"gjb7cjm","c_root_id_B":"gjb40ty","created_at_utc_A":1610684587,"created_at_utc_B":1610682670,"score_A":26,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"u\/pleiades33 \\- you have gotten your answer, and some comments are starting to break rules so I am locking the thread. Allow me to extend condolences on behalf of the moderators and all sub members for your loss.","human_ref_B":"\ud83d\udcaf get the necropsy on him","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1917.0,"score_ratio":1.7333333333}
{"post_id":"eqicof","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My vet badmouthed me to another clinic. Advice? I've been taking my German Sheppard to the same vet for 7 years. He has chronic skin infections and usually sees the vet a few times a year for flareups. The last appointment the vet suggested a specialist, but offered to do skin testing themselves. I declined to do the testing there because I was going to have everything done at the specialist even though he kept insisting to do it at his clinic. It came to the point in the conversation where I had to be polite but firmly declined doing additional tests there because the dog was going to see a specialist.  I called the next day with a question about the dog's monthly heartworm preventative and when on hold for the doctor heard him say :\"I f'ing hate this b\\*\\*\\*\\*\" before picking up the phone. I didn't say anything and was shocked to hear this.  I will find a new clinic because I feel uncomfortable seeing him again. Upon going to the appointment at the specialist clinic I was told by the doctor there who I had never met before \"Oh your Mrs. T?,  Dr. X told us all about you\" giving the vet tech who was also in the room a \"look\". I almost wanted to die. I now feel uncomfortably going back to the specialist. You'd think I trashed their office or screamed at them based on the reaction. Advice?","c_root_id_A":"feswubx","c_root_id_B":"fet5u6e","created_at_utc_A":1579369758,"created_at_utc_B":1579372108,"score_A":95,"score_B":206,"human_ref_A":"The reason that it's best to do the testing there in the vet's office is because the specialist can have the results on hand and review the results before you arrive, so that the specialist visit is as productive as possible for your pet.  You insisting that it be done at the specialist's office means that you're going to essentially waste a specialist visit and a vet visit getting nothing accomplished.  The specialist will have no results to view and you won't be able to make any progress until they do.  Stop resisting the process just because you want things done your way and just let it work.  This isn't Burger King.  It's medicine.  There are processes in place that you don't have the slightest insight into.  You need to trust that they're doing the best they can to help your animal.  Let go of whatever mistrust you have and just let them do their jobs.  That being said, their behavior is unprofessional and that is an entirely different issue for a different sub.  Not much we can do about that.","human_ref_B":"I believe there are always two sides to every story. What you say happened on your visits may not reflect the vets' experience. I get a LOT of difficult clients who have zero idea how much of a chore they are to work with, and it is a massive drain on my mental energy trying to phrase every little thing \"just so\" so our visit can be productive. Or there see the other clients who seem to think that they are the expert and that my advice isn't useful. Or they mistreat my staff and don't think that I hear about it. You may be none of those, or all of them. That being said, if you are no longer comfortable at your current hospital, time to find a new one.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2350.0,"score_ratio":2.1684210526}
{"post_id":"eqicof","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My vet badmouthed me to another clinic. Advice? I've been taking my German Sheppard to the same vet for 7 years. He has chronic skin infections and usually sees the vet a few times a year for flareups. The last appointment the vet suggested a specialist, but offered to do skin testing themselves. I declined to do the testing there because I was going to have everything done at the specialist even though he kept insisting to do it at his clinic. It came to the point in the conversation where I had to be polite but firmly declined doing additional tests there because the dog was going to see a specialist.  I called the next day with a question about the dog's monthly heartworm preventative and when on hold for the doctor heard him say :\"I f'ing hate this b\\*\\*\\*\\*\" before picking up the phone. I didn't say anything and was shocked to hear this.  I will find a new clinic because I feel uncomfortable seeing him again. Upon going to the appointment at the specialist clinic I was told by the doctor there who I had never met before \"Oh your Mrs. T?,  Dr. X told us all about you\" giving the vet tech who was also in the room a \"look\". I almost wanted to die. I now feel uncomfortably going back to the specialist. You'd think I trashed their office or screamed at them based on the reaction. Advice?","c_root_id_A":"fet5u6e","c_root_id_B":"feszm8i","created_at_utc_A":1579372108,"created_at_utc_B":1579370480,"score_A":206,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I believe there are always two sides to every story. What you say happened on your visits may not reflect the vets' experience. I get a LOT of difficult clients who have zero idea how much of a chore they are to work with, and it is a massive drain on my mental energy trying to phrase every little thing \"just so\" so our visit can be productive. Or there see the other clients who seem to think that they are the expert and that my advice isn't useful. Or they mistreat my staff and don't think that I hear about it. You may be none of those, or all of them. That being said, if you are no longer comfortable at your current hospital, time to find a new one.","human_ref_B":"Sorry, but I'm with u\/derangedteddy on this. You were being difficult and thinking you know better than the professional in the room. You've paid thousands of dollars over the years for their professional guidance and then you don't take it. You're being a frustrating client, and it's not serving your dog well. Your dog's well being is the vet's primary concern.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1628.0,"score_ratio":25.75}
{"post_id":"eqicof","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My vet badmouthed me to another clinic. Advice? I've been taking my German Sheppard to the same vet for 7 years. He has chronic skin infections and usually sees the vet a few times a year for flareups. The last appointment the vet suggested a specialist, but offered to do skin testing themselves. I declined to do the testing there because I was going to have everything done at the specialist even though he kept insisting to do it at his clinic. It came to the point in the conversation where I had to be polite but firmly declined doing additional tests there because the dog was going to see a specialist.  I called the next day with a question about the dog's monthly heartworm preventative and when on hold for the doctor heard him say :\"I f'ing hate this b\\*\\*\\*\\*\" before picking up the phone. I didn't say anything and was shocked to hear this.  I will find a new clinic because I feel uncomfortable seeing him again. Upon going to the appointment at the specialist clinic I was told by the doctor there who I had never met before \"Oh your Mrs. T?,  Dr. X told us all about you\" giving the vet tech who was also in the room a \"look\". I almost wanted to die. I now feel uncomfortably going back to the specialist. You'd think I trashed their office or screamed at them based on the reaction. Advice?","c_root_id_A":"feswubx","c_root_id_B":"fetjm2l","created_at_utc_A":1579369758,"created_at_utc_B":1579376096,"score_A":95,"score_B":105,"human_ref_A":"The reason that it's best to do the testing there in the vet's office is because the specialist can have the results on hand and review the results before you arrive, so that the specialist visit is as productive as possible for your pet.  You insisting that it be done at the specialist's office means that you're going to essentially waste a specialist visit and a vet visit getting nothing accomplished.  The specialist will have no results to view and you won't be able to make any progress until they do.  Stop resisting the process just because you want things done your way and just let it work.  This isn't Burger King.  It's medicine.  There are processes in place that you don't have the slightest insight into.  You need to trust that they're doing the best they can to help your animal.  Let go of whatever mistrust you have and just let them do their jobs.  That being said, their behavior is unprofessional and that is an entirely different issue for a different sub.  Not much we can do about that.","human_ref_B":"A couple questions.  First, how do you know the vet was talking about you before he picked up the phone? I mean, that kind of talk is not professional anywhere, and shouldn't happen - but how do you know it was specifically directed at you, and not, say, the client in the room he just walked out of?  Second, us humans are notoriously bad at interpreting \"looks.\" We see what we think is there, even if it isn't. Your regular vet telling them \"all about you\" is normal when being passed on to a specialist. It normally means all about your situation - what's wrong with the pet, what you've tried so far.  In the end, you have to find professionals that you can work well with - and it seems these may not be them. But nothing in your story indicates anyone badmouthed you. If you feel so uncomfortable, confront them about it and get their side of the story. But based on what you've written here, you are making a lot of assumptions and interpretations that may be completely incorrect.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6338.0,"score_ratio":1.1052631579}
{"post_id":"eqicof","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My vet badmouthed me to another clinic. Advice? I've been taking my German Sheppard to the same vet for 7 years. He has chronic skin infections and usually sees the vet a few times a year for flareups. The last appointment the vet suggested a specialist, but offered to do skin testing themselves. I declined to do the testing there because I was going to have everything done at the specialist even though he kept insisting to do it at his clinic. It came to the point in the conversation where I had to be polite but firmly declined doing additional tests there because the dog was going to see a specialist.  I called the next day with a question about the dog's monthly heartworm preventative and when on hold for the doctor heard him say :\"I f'ing hate this b\\*\\*\\*\\*\" before picking up the phone. I didn't say anything and was shocked to hear this.  I will find a new clinic because I feel uncomfortable seeing him again. Upon going to the appointment at the specialist clinic I was told by the doctor there who I had never met before \"Oh your Mrs. T?,  Dr. X told us all about you\" giving the vet tech who was also in the room a \"look\". I almost wanted to die. I now feel uncomfortably going back to the specialist. You'd think I trashed their office or screamed at them based on the reaction. Advice?","c_root_id_A":"fetd5rm","c_root_id_B":"fetjm2l","created_at_utc_A":1579374105,"created_at_utc_B":1579376096,"score_A":6,"score_B":105,"human_ref_A":"Honestly, your GP sounds like a turd. I wouldn't worry about what the specialist thinks. As a specialist myself, we are well aware that some referring veterinarians are turds(rude, demanding, etc). Just be a great client to them and they will forget all about it and love working with you and your dog. There was absolutely no reason for him to do the testing other than revenue and he would potentially risk doing something different than the specialist would have preferred and ended up causing you to have the same or similar test performed again with the specialist. Find a new GP, but don't sweat whatever they said to the specialist- they don't care, all they wanna do is treat your dog's condition because it is their most favorite thing to do otherwise they wouldn't have bothered specializing in derm.  Best of luck, skin disease is very frustrating, but in the right hands can be very rewarding to treat.","human_ref_B":"A couple questions.  First, how do you know the vet was talking about you before he picked up the phone? I mean, that kind of talk is not professional anywhere, and shouldn't happen - but how do you know it was specifically directed at you, and not, say, the client in the room he just walked out of?  Second, us humans are notoriously bad at interpreting \"looks.\" We see what we think is there, even if it isn't. Your regular vet telling them \"all about you\" is normal when being passed on to a specialist. It normally means all about your situation - what's wrong with the pet, what you've tried so far.  In the end, you have to find professionals that you can work well with - and it seems these may not be them. But nothing in your story indicates anyone badmouthed you. If you feel so uncomfortable, confront them about it and get their side of the story. But based on what you've written here, you are making a lot of assumptions and interpretations that may be completely incorrect.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1991.0,"score_ratio":17.5}
{"post_id":"eqicof","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My vet badmouthed me to another clinic. Advice? I've been taking my German Sheppard to the same vet for 7 years. He has chronic skin infections and usually sees the vet a few times a year for flareups. The last appointment the vet suggested a specialist, but offered to do skin testing themselves. I declined to do the testing there because I was going to have everything done at the specialist even though he kept insisting to do it at his clinic. It came to the point in the conversation where I had to be polite but firmly declined doing additional tests there because the dog was going to see a specialist.  I called the next day with a question about the dog's monthly heartworm preventative and when on hold for the doctor heard him say :\"I f'ing hate this b\\*\\*\\*\\*\" before picking up the phone. I didn't say anything and was shocked to hear this.  I will find a new clinic because I feel uncomfortable seeing him again. Upon going to the appointment at the specialist clinic I was told by the doctor there who I had never met before \"Oh your Mrs. T?,  Dr. X told us all about you\" giving the vet tech who was also in the room a \"look\". I almost wanted to die. I now feel uncomfortably going back to the specialist. You'd think I trashed their office or screamed at them based on the reaction. Advice?","c_root_id_A":"fetjm2l","c_root_id_B":"feszm8i","created_at_utc_A":1579376096,"created_at_utc_B":1579370480,"score_A":105,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"A couple questions.  First, how do you know the vet was talking about you before he picked up the phone? I mean, that kind of talk is not professional anywhere, and shouldn't happen - but how do you know it was specifically directed at you, and not, say, the client in the room he just walked out of?  Second, us humans are notoriously bad at interpreting \"looks.\" We see what we think is there, even if it isn't. Your regular vet telling them \"all about you\" is normal when being passed on to a specialist. It normally means all about your situation - what's wrong with the pet, what you've tried so far.  In the end, you have to find professionals that you can work well with - and it seems these may not be them. But nothing in your story indicates anyone badmouthed you. If you feel so uncomfortable, confront them about it and get their side of the story. But based on what you've written here, you are making a lot of assumptions and interpretations that may be completely incorrect.","human_ref_B":"Sorry, but I'm with u\/derangedteddy on this. You were being difficult and thinking you know better than the professional in the room. You've paid thousands of dollars over the years for their professional guidance and then you don't take it. You're being a frustrating client, and it's not serving your dog well. Your dog's well being is the vet's primary concern.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5616.0,"score_ratio":13.125}
{"post_id":"t2rzrv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dear all Veterinarians-you guys are so amazing ! I\u2019m a human doctor\/surgeon. I\u2019m also a huge animal lover and have had various animals over the years. I\u2019m always so in awe with the amount of medicine, surgery and anesthesia vets know across multiple specialties and across multiple species! I can tell you, most human doctors don\u2019t have this kind of knowledge.   Just wanted you all to know how much respect I have for your limitless mastery of medicine and dedication to our animal companions.  Cheers !","c_root_id_A":"hypbu99","c_root_id_B":"hyp648i","created_at_utc_A":1646001570,"created_at_utc_B":1645999205,"score_A":29,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, just work in the industry. Thank you so much for appreciating veterinarians. Some of our most difficult clients are human medical professionals, so when someone like you says something as positive as this, it really makes a difference.","human_ref_B":"So many people don't understand this! They think animals are easier than people and don't know vets have to learn about so many different species. And then want cheap vet care. I'm not even a vet and it drives me crazy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2365.0,"score_ratio":1.8125}
{"post_id":"t2rzrv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dear all Veterinarians-you guys are so amazing ! I\u2019m a human doctor\/surgeon. I\u2019m also a huge animal lover and have had various animals over the years. I\u2019m always so in awe with the amount of medicine, surgery and anesthesia vets know across multiple specialties and across multiple species! I can tell you, most human doctors don\u2019t have this kind of knowledge.   Just wanted you all to know how much respect I have for your limitless mastery of medicine and dedication to our animal companions.  Cheers !","c_root_id_A":"hypbu99","c_root_id_B":"hyofx85","created_at_utc_A":1646001570,"created_at_utc_B":1645988771,"score_A":29,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, just work in the industry. Thank you so much for appreciating veterinarians. Some of our most difficult clients are human medical professionals, so when someone like you says something as positive as this, it really makes a difference.","human_ref_B":"Thank you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12799.0,"score_ratio":4.1428571429}
{"post_id":"t2rzrv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dear all Veterinarians-you guys are so amazing ! I\u2019m a human doctor\/surgeon. I\u2019m also a huge animal lover and have had various animals over the years. I\u2019m always so in awe with the amount of medicine, surgery and anesthesia vets know across multiple specialties and across multiple species! I can tell you, most human doctors don\u2019t have this kind of knowledge.   Just wanted you all to know how much respect I have for your limitless mastery of medicine and dedication to our animal companions.  Cheers !","c_root_id_A":"hyofx85","c_root_id_B":"hyp648i","created_at_utc_A":1645988771,"created_at_utc_B":1645999205,"score_A":7,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Thank you!","human_ref_B":"So many people don't understand this! They think animals are easier than people and don't know vets have to learn about so many different species. And then want cheap vet care. I'm not even a vet and it drives me crazy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10434.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"t2rzrv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dear all Veterinarians-you guys are so amazing ! I\u2019m a human doctor\/surgeon. I\u2019m also a huge animal lover and have had various animals over the years. I\u2019m always so in awe with the amount of medicine, surgery and anesthesia vets know across multiple specialties and across multiple species! I can tell you, most human doctors don\u2019t have this kind of knowledge.   Just wanted you all to know how much respect I have for your limitless mastery of medicine and dedication to our animal companions.  Cheers !","c_root_id_A":"hyq4qfg","c_root_id_B":"hyofx85","created_at_utc_A":1646014514,"created_at_utc_B":1645988771,"score_A":12,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Agreed!!! I am a former animal rescue volunteer and employee at a major medical school. Community vets who provided care and advice to us for rescues were so vital to our mission! When I hear\/read people complain about vet service fees, I educate them about how much time and effort went into vet education. I have an immense respect for vets! Also I (personally) have NEVER encountered a vet who lacked compassion, whereas \"lack of bedside manner\" is a not uncommon complaint regarding physicians. I think that vets (more than physicians) go into the field because of compassion. Hella respect for you! <3","human_ref_B":"Thank you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25743.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"njfir5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Delete if not allowed, but I have a morbid question to ask. My dog was accidentally hit by a car today and he died. He was a beagle and was my old boy, was around 11 years. I would like to know how long he was laying there suffering. His neck was instantly broken, and the car only ran over his head. He looked like he was trying to get up right after, and he was yelping in pain. I didn\u2019t know what else to do, so I knelt down and pet him and told him he\u2019s a good boy, because I knew the vet wouldn\u2019t be able to fix him. He ended up seemingly drifting away after a few minutes, but I\u2019d like to know how long he was actually laying there still alive and suffering. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"gz7ql8d","c_root_id_B":"gz7t46w","created_at_utc_A":1621811497,"created_at_utc_B":1621812865,"score_A":56,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but from experience as a pet owner dogs are incredibly sensitive to our emotional states. I'm sure your presence and comfort meant everything and helped him pass calmly. I'm sorry something so awful happened to you and your pup, but wherever he is now I'm sure he can't feel any pain.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so deeply sorry for your loss. What a painful and traumatic way for you to have to say goodbye. I hope you\u2019re taking excellent care of yourself.  Seconding what the psych student says above. There are ancient evolutionary instincts at work when we experience sudden injury - mammalian bodies are wired to get somewhere safe, and then take stock.  It\u2019s why so many cats who are hit by cars are found under bushes nearby, as the adrenaline fuels one final burst of energy to hide.   I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever broken a limb or similar yourself, but perhaps you might remember a time when you hurt yourself badly but the pain took a little while to register, once that adrenaline died down.   Regardless, I can promise you this: of all the sedatives and painkilling drugs in the world, there is nothing more powerfully soothing than you sitting right beside him in those final moments. You gave him that safety. He knew he was loved, and he wasn\u2019t alone. May we all be so lucky to have these things in our final moments on this earth.  You were so brave. So many of us would have freaked it out in that moment - spent those last precious moments screaming at the driver or desperately and futilely calling vets. You should be very proud of what you did for your boy today. You loved him well, to the very end.   Finally, I think you\u2019re wrong to label this a morbid question. It\u2019s a question full of compassion and love, and that\u2019s a beautiful thing.  You and your special boy are in my thoughts, OP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1368.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbcfyxm","c_root_id_B":"fbbk156","created_at_utc_A":1576722991,"created_at_utc_B":1576702069,"score_A":20,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet: As someone who has worked in\/around rescue be wary of posting \u201cfor free\u201d. Come up with some price that will help recoup fees you\u2019ve taken on. People search to get puppies and kittens for free to mistreat. Deal with your friends how you want but please please be careful.","human_ref_B":"You're a good egg op \u2764\ufe0f are you going to keep Dora? Look at those eyes looking at you, so sweet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20922.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbbcfmo","c_root_id_B":"fbcfyxm","created_at_utc_A":1576697557,"created_at_utc_B":1576722991,"score_A":12,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Awesome work! The world needs more people like you!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet: As someone who has worked in\/around rescue be wary of posting \u201cfor free\u201d. Come up with some price that will help recoup fees you\u2019ve taken on. People search to get puppies and kittens for free to mistreat. Deal with your friends how you want but please please be careful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25434.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbcfyxm","c_root_id_B":"fbcdd0u","created_at_utc_A":1576722991,"created_at_utc_B":1576721312,"score_A":20,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet: As someone who has worked in\/around rescue be wary of posting \u201cfor free\u201d. Come up with some price that will help recoup fees you\u2019ve taken on. People search to get puppies and kittens for free to mistreat. Deal with your friends how you want but please please be careful.","human_ref_B":"Good momma and good rescue! \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1679.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbbk156","c_root_id_B":"fbbcfmo","created_at_utc_A":1576702069,"created_at_utc_B":1576697557,"score_A":14,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You're a good egg op \u2764\ufe0f are you going to keep Dora? Look at those eyes looking at you, so sweet","human_ref_B":"Awesome work! The world needs more people like you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4512.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbcdd0u","c_root_id_B":"fbd5llo","created_at_utc_A":1576721312,"created_at_utc_B":1576747927,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Good momma and good rescue! \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"Aww such beautiful puppies and one proud and healthy mum! You did a really good thing for her and the world needs more people like you out there. Thank you :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26615.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbcdd0u","c_root_id_B":"fbd5lux","created_at_utc_A":1576721312,"created_at_utc_B":1576747938,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Good momma and good rescue! \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"You are a very good human.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26626.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ecgm2d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE] Update to a post I made a few days back about a pregnant street dog So a while back, I made [a post about this pregnant dog that had showed up in our street. I was concerned if she would be fine, or what I should do. I had already provided food and a doggy house, but was unsure as to what else I could do, and I was guided to find an animal shelter that could care for her and the puppies after the birth.    Life gets busy, some things take priority higher than others, and we put off calling a shelter until we could find a proper one (it's pretty hard to find a good one from where I'm from). But then a few days after my original post, she goes missing, we can't find her anywhere around our block. We asked around the neighborhood if anyone found her, or even took her in, but no one saw a thing.  Luckily, yesterday, while I was leaving home from work, I saw her around the doggy house we put up for her, she was looking for food. I saw she was skinnier, and figured she gave birth. But where?! I gave her food, and after she ate, she led me to them. She snuck in a tight \"corridor\" between my house and a building next to it, and found a hidey hole there. No wonder she chose not to give birth in the house we set up for her, it was 9 puppies. I don't think they'd all fit. Luckily, everything was fine.  Fast forward to today, just now, when I managed to squeeze my way there and retrieve them. They all look healthy as can be, including the mother, who we named Dora. Here's two pics for you to see: Puppies and Puppies + Dora  We called a vet that makes home visits and he's coming by tomorrow to check on them. I've had a few (responsible) friends ask to adopt, and I think I'll do that for the majority, if I can find suitable owners for them.   Any advice is still welcomed, and thanks for everyone that commented on my last post, even though I didn't really follow the major consensus on that lol.  EDIT: forgot to link my original post","c_root_id_A":"fbcdd0u","c_root_id_B":"fbddeku","created_at_utc_A":1576721312,"created_at_utc_B":1576758425,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Good momma and good rescue! \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"Thank you for doing what many people would not!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":37113.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhexfb","c_root_id_B":"iwhe54f","created_at_utc_A":1668534079,"created_at_utc_B":1668533776,"score_A":412,"score_B":270,"human_ref_A":"No good vet will declaw anyway. You don\u2019t have to do this.  I would refuse to move in with them. You are doing them a favor by moving in, and your one request is you bring your cat and they tell her you need to mutilate her paws for the sake of her furniture?","human_ref_B":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":303.0,"score_ratio":1.5259259259}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhexfb","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668534079,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":412,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"No good vet will declaw anyway. You don\u2019t have to do this.  I would refuse to move in with them. You are doing them a favor by moving in, and your one request is you bring your cat and they tell her you need to mutilate her paws for the sake of her furniture?","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":836.0,"score_ratio":34.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhhbvk","c_root_id_B":"iwhfre5","created_at_utc_A":1668535001,"created_at_utc_B":1668534399,"score_A":405,"score_B":282,"human_ref_A":"Im sorry you\u2019re in this position. I would not declaw your cat. You\u2019re setting up a young cat for a life of potential pain and discomfort. Furniture can be replaced, it is not a sentient living being. There are also ways to mitigate scratching, keeping the nails trimmed, having options for places she can scratch.   If your grandparents are asking you to move in to help them, they don\u2019t get to dictate what happens with your cat. You can either both move in, with all of your digits intact, or they can find someone else to assist them.","human_ref_B":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","labels":1,"seconds_difference":602.0,"score_ratio":1.4361702128}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhe54f","c_root_id_B":"iwhhbvk","created_at_utc_A":1668533776,"created_at_utc_B":1668535001,"score_A":270,"score_B":405,"human_ref_A":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","human_ref_B":"Im sorry you\u2019re in this position. I would not declaw your cat. You\u2019re setting up a young cat for a life of potential pain and discomfort. Furniture can be replaced, it is not a sentient living being. There are also ways to mitigate scratching, keeping the nails trimmed, having options for places she can scratch.   If your grandparents are asking you to move in to help them, they don\u2019t get to dictate what happens with your cat. You can either both move in, with all of your digits intact, or they can find someone else to assist them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1225.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhhbvk","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668535001,"score_A":12,"score_B":405,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Im sorry you\u2019re in this position. I would not declaw your cat. You\u2019re setting up a young cat for a life of potential pain and discomfort. Furniture can be replaced, it is not a sentient living being. There are also ways to mitigate scratching, keeping the nails trimmed, having options for places she can scratch.   If your grandparents are asking you to move in to help them, they don\u2019t get to dictate what happens with your cat. You can either both move in, with all of your digits intact, or they can find someone else to assist them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1758.0,"score_ratio":33.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhi9sm","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668535363,"score_A":387,"score_B":349,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Absolutely do not agree to this. If you were moving in with a kid and they asked you to chop their hands off so that they don't draw on the walls, would you be considering it?  Just tell them that the cat remains unmutilated or you don't move in, simple. You were doing them a favor to begin with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4290.0,"score_ratio":1.1088825215}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":387,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1447.0,"score_ratio":1.1586826347}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhfre5","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668534399,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":282,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5254.0,"score_ratio":1.3723404255}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhe54f","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668533776,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":270,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5877.0,"score_ratio":1.4333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":266,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2070.0,"score_ratio":1.454887218}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":387,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2570.0,"score_ratio":2.2631578947}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":144,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2101.0,"score_ratio":2.6875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":141,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":510.0,"score_ratio":2.7446808511}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":387,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3084.0,"score_ratio":3.1209677419}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":109,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3042.0,"score_ratio":3.5504587156}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmowk","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668537053,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":87,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2600.0,"score_ratio":4.4482758621}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":77,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3580.0,"score_ratio":5.025974026}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":387,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4284.0,"score_ratio":6.046875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":53,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4315.0,"score_ratio":7.3018867925}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhozys","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668537935,"score_A":387,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1718.0,"score_ratio":7.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqe48","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668538466,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":45,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1187.0,"score_ratio":8.6}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":29,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4248.0,"score_ratio":13.3448275862}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhkdpg","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668536175,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":31,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3478.0,"score_ratio":12.4838709677}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqei7","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668538471,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":25,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1182.0,"score_ratio":15.48}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhq2fp","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668538345,"score_A":387,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Please don't declaw your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1308.0,"score_ratio":16.125}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":18,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1236.0,"score_ratio":21.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhtilf","c_root_id_B":"iwhssmo","created_at_utc_A":1668539653,"created_at_utc_B":1668539379,"score_A":387,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","human_ref_B":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":274.0,"score_ratio":22.7647058824}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":12,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6410.0,"score_ratio":32.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":12,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4068.0,"score_ratio":32.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhsuwd","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668539403,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":12,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":250.0,"score_ratio":32.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhtilf","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668539653,"score_A":7,"score_B":387,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"Declawing is not the answer. It\u2019s entirely possible that, like many people, your grandparents don\u2019t understand the severity of the procedure or the common repercussions. MANY people mistakenly think that declawing is just removing or cutting off the nails, and that a cat will be good as new. It\u2019s not. It\u2019s an AMPUTATION of the last bone in each toe. Feel your fingers - it would be like amputating the last bone that you feel that starts right above your fingernail. It\u2019s barbaric, it\u2019s outdated, and many cats suffer life long issues because of it. Many people who have declawed cats will say that their cats were not negatively affected by it, but they just don\u2019t notice the subtle signs.   Declawed cats are more likely to BITE (and a cat bite is almost always worse that a scratch)  They are prone to early onset arthritis, because being digitigrade animas (animals who walk on their toes), amputating that last joint shifts their weight back onto their big paw pad, which changes their stance, which leads to chronic back and joint pain.  Declawed cats often suffer litter box aversion. How will your grandparents like it when the cat starts peeing or pooping on the rug?  Declawing isn\u2019t always straightforward, and complications can arise with the healing process, or even years down the road. I\u2019ve seen cases where the process was done incompletely, and a nail began to grow again, under the skin until it eventually pierced the skin.  Because declawing is NOT the answer to stopping or preventing a cat from scratching, and it is cruel and barbaric, many veterinarians no longer perform this service (in my 10+ years as a veterinary nurse, the only doctors I\u2019ve known who would do it were in their 60s\/70s and ready to retire. NONE of the young vets would do it). And, in many countries it\u2019s illegal, and in parts of the US as well.   For people who argue that declawing keeps a cat from being surrendered to a shelter, I implore you to work a few months in a shelter and keep a tally on how many declawed cats are surrendered due to house soiling, biting, early arthritis, or other behavioral complications.   Please find some literature and share it with your grandparents. The Paw Project has a lot of resources. Also, you can cover furniture with blankets (that\u2019s what I do). They also make adhesive that doesn\u2019t hurt fabric that you can put on the corners of furniture that prevents a cat from causing damage (it\u2019s called Sticky Paws). You can also provide appropriate areas for the cat to scratch, like various scratchers, and reward her for using them. You can also apply nail caps. Less ideal, but you can confine the cat to certain areas of the house.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2883.0,"score_ratio":55.2857142857}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhfre5","c_root_id_B":"iwhi9sm","created_at_utc_A":1668534399,"created_at_utc_B":1668535363,"score_A":282,"score_B":349,"human_ref_A":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","human_ref_B":"Absolutely do not agree to this. If you were moving in with a kid and they asked you to chop their hands off so that they don't draw on the walls, would you be considering it?  Just tell them that the cat remains unmutilated or you don't move in, simple. You were doing them a favor to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":964.0,"score_ratio":1.2375886525}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhe54f","c_root_id_B":"iwhi9sm","created_at_utc_A":1668533776,"created_at_utc_B":1668535363,"score_A":270,"score_B":349,"human_ref_A":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","human_ref_B":"Absolutely do not agree to this. If you were moving in with a kid and they asked you to chop their hands off so that they don't draw on the walls, would you be considering it?  Just tell them that the cat remains unmutilated or you don't move in, simple. You were doing them a favor to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1587.0,"score_ratio":1.2925925926}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhi9sm","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668535363,"score_A":53,"score_B":349,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"Absolutely do not agree to this. If you were moving in with a kid and they asked you to chop their hands off so that they don't draw on the walls, would you be considering it?  Just tell them that the cat remains unmutilated or you don't move in, simple. You were doing them a favor to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25.0,"score_ratio":6.5849056604}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhi9sm","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668535363,"score_A":12,"score_B":349,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Absolutely do not agree to this. If you were moving in with a kid and they asked you to chop their hands off so that they don't draw on the walls, would you be considering it?  Just tell them that the cat remains unmutilated or you don't move in, simple. You were doing them a favor to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2120.0,"score_ratio":29.0833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhfre5","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668534399,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":282,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3807.0,"score_ratio":1.1843971631}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhe54f","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668533776,"score_A":334,"score_B":270,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4430.0,"score_ratio":1.237037037}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":266,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":623.0,"score_ratio":1.2556390977}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":334,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1123.0,"score_ratio":1.9532163743}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":334,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":654.0,"score_ratio":2.3194444444}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":124,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1637.0,"score_ratio":2.6935483871}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":109,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1595.0,"score_ratio":3.0642201835}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":334,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1153.0,"score_ratio":3.8390804598}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":334,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2133.0,"score_ratio":4.3376623377}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":334,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2837.0,"score_ratio":5.21875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":334,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2868.0,"score_ratio":6.3018867925}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhozys","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668537935,"score_A":334,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":271.0,"score_ratio":6.1851851852}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":29,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2801.0,"score_ratio":11.5172413793}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":334,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2031.0,"score_ratio":10.7741935484}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhppgr","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668538206,"score_A":12,"score_B":334,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4963.0,"score_ratio":27.8333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":334,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2621.0,"score_ratio":27.8333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhppgr","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668538206,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":334,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Simple. Don\u2019t move in with them. If they need help then they are the ones who will have to compromise & accept the cat, claws & all. If they don\u2019t agree then tell them to find help somewhere else. You\u2019re not being forced to declaw your cat just like you\u2019re not being forced to move in with your grandparents.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1436.0,"score_ratio":47.7142857143}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhe54f","c_root_id_B":"iwhfre5","created_at_utc_A":1668533776,"created_at_utc_B":1668534399,"score_A":270,"score_B":282,"human_ref_A":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","human_ref_B":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","labels":0,"seconds_difference":623.0,"score_ratio":1.0444444444}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhfre5","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668534399,"score_A":12,"score_B":282,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"if they want to make a rule that even landlords  can't make then just don't move in you would be doing them a favor they don't get to dictate causing permanent harm to your pet please do not declaw her it's cruel and takes up to the first knuckle joint not just the claw","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1156.0,"score_ratio":23.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhe54f","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668533776,"score_A":12,"score_B":270,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Would kitty caps be a compromise for her?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":533.0,"score_ratio":22.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":266,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":1,"seconds_difference":500.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwho2ty","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668537583,"score_A":144,"score_B":266,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31.0,"score_ratio":1.8472222222}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":266,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1014.0,"score_ratio":2.1451612903}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":266,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":972.0,"score_ratio":2.4403669725}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmowk","c_root_id_B":"iwho2ty","created_at_utc_A":1668537053,"created_at_utc_B":1668537583,"score_A":87,"score_B":266,"human_ref_A":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","human_ref_B":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":530.0,"score_ratio":3.0574712644}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":266,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1510.0,"score_ratio":3.4545454545}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":266,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2214.0,"score_ratio":4.15625}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwho2ty","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668537583,"score_A":53,"score_B":266,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2245.0,"score_ratio":5.0188679245}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":266,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2178.0,"score_ratio":9.1724137931}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":266,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1408.0,"score_ratio":8.5806451613}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":266,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4340.0,"score_ratio":22.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwho2ty","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668537583,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":266,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1998.0,"score_ratio":22.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwho2ty","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668537583,"score_A":7,"score_B":266,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"I mean... just say no? You are basically your cats parent, someone is asking you to harm your cat and you just... agree?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":813.0,"score_ratio":38.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":171,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":514.0,"score_ratio":1.3790322581}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":109,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":472.0,"score_ratio":1.5688073394}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":171,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30.0,"score_ratio":1.9655172414}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":171,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1010.0,"score_ratio":2.2207792208}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":64,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1714.0,"score_ratio":2.671875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":53,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1745.0,"score_ratio":3.2264150943}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":171,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1678.0,"score_ratio":5.8965517241}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":171,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":908.0,"score_ratio":5.5161290323}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":12,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3840.0,"score_ratio":14.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhmrry","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668537083,"score_A":12,"score_B":171,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1498.0,"score_ratio":14.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmrry","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668537083,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":171,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t declaw your cat. It will cause her\/ him immense pain. This is unacceptable","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":313.0,"score_ratio":24.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":144,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":983.0,"score_ratio":1.1612903226}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":109,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":941.0,"score_ratio":1.3211009174}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":144,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":499.0,"score_ratio":1.6551724138}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":77,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1479.0,"score_ratio":1.8701298701}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":144,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2183.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":53,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2214.0,"score_ratio":2.7169811321}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":29,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2147.0,"score_ratio":4.9655172414}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":144,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1377.0,"score_ratio":4.6451612903}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":144,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4309.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhnzua","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668537552,"score_A":12,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1967.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhnzua","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668537552,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":144,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"OP please don\u2019t mutilate your cat and subject her to a lifetime of pain and discomfort for what is a temporary situation! You are under no obligation to move in and given that your grandparents requested that you come, YOU get to dictate your terms. please draw the line here and say no to animal abuse.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":782.0,"score_ratio":20.5714285714}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhs6fu","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668539143,"score_A":124,"score_B":141,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2574.0,"score_ratio":1.1370967742}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":141,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2532.0,"score_ratio":1.2935779817}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":141,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2090.0,"score_ratio":1.6206896552}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhs6fu","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668539143,"score_A":77,"score_B":141,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3070.0,"score_ratio":1.8311688312}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":141,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3774.0,"score_ratio":2.203125}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":141,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3805.0,"score_ratio":2.6603773585}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhozys","c_root_id_B":"iwhs6fu","created_at_utc_A":1668537935,"created_at_utc_B":1668539143,"score_A":54,"score_B":141,"human_ref_A":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","human_ref_B":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1208.0,"score_ratio":2.6111111111}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhqe48","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668538466,"score_A":141,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":677.0,"score_ratio":3.1333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":141,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3738.0,"score_ratio":4.8620689655}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":141,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2968.0,"score_ratio":4.5483870968}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqei7","c_root_id_B":"iwhs6fu","created_at_utc_A":1668538471,"created_at_utc_B":1668539143,"score_A":25,"score_B":141,"human_ref_A":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","human_ref_B":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","labels":0,"seconds_difference":672.0,"score_ratio":5.64}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhq2fp","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668538345,"score_A":141,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"Please don't declaw your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":798.0,"score_ratio":5.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhs6fu","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668539143,"score_A":18,"score_B":141,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","labels":0,"seconds_difference":726.0,"score_ratio":7.8333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":141,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5900.0,"score_ratio":11.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":141,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3558.0,"score_ratio":11.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhs6fu","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668539143,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":141,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"You\u2019re not being forced, you\u2019re being put in a position nobody should ever have to be, and you have every right to say \u201cnope not happening\u201d","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2373.0,"score_ratio":20.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":77,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":496.0,"score_ratio":1.6103896104}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":64,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1200.0,"score_ratio":1.9375}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":124,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1231.0,"score_ratio":2.3396226415}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":124,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1164.0,"score_ratio":4.275862069}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":124,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":394.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhlezp","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668536569,"score_A":12,"score_B":124,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3326.0,"score_ratio":10.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlezp","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668536569,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":124,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t even consider it\u2026 Why would they feel entitled to make a demand like that?","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":984.0,"score_ratio":10.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":109,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":538.0,"score_ratio":1.4155844156}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":64,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1242.0,"score_ratio":1.703125}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":109,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1273.0,"score_ratio":2.0566037736}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhlizt","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668536611,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":109,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1206.0,"score_ratio":3.7586206897}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhkdpg","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668536175,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":31,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":436.0,"score_ratio":3.5161290323}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":12,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3368.0,"score_ratio":9.0833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhlizt","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668536611,"score_A":12,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"1) you cannot be forced to declaw this cat. Either way, IF you do it, you gave in to their pressure and made the final decision. With that being said: you could choose not to move in and make \"not declawing\" an ultimatum..  you could trim the nails regularly, give healthy outlets for scratching, behaviour modification or even nail caps. There are literally ALL of the options to declawing... de laying is a cruel and unnecessary surgery that will have lasting effects on their wellbeing, behaviour and posture. It makes them severely likely to develop arthritis, behaviour problems and litterbox issues. Long story short: don't do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1026.0,"score_ratio":9.0833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmowk","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668537053,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":87,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":980.0,"score_ratio":1.1298701299}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":64,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1684.0,"score_ratio":1.359375}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":53,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1715.0,"score_ratio":1.641509434}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":29,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1648.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhkdpg","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668536175,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":31,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":878.0,"score_ratio":2.8064516129}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":12,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3810.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhmowk","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668537053,"score_A":12,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1468.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhmowk","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668537053,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":87,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"The CDC advises against declawing, \u201cDeclawing is not recommended to prevent CSD\u201d. If your cat is displaying any aggressive behavior, declawing can actually make them more inclined to bite, and cat bites are much more dangerous than scratches. If they\u2019re worried about their furniture, provide plenty of scratching posts (scratching posts should ideally be at least 3 feet tall) and pads, and reward the cats when they use them.   The AVMA, American Association of Feline Practitioners, and American Animal Hospital Association all oppose declawing.   There are also alternatives available, like nail guards, trimming, etc.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":283.0,"score_ratio":12.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhiaav","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668535369,"score_A":77,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":704.0,"score_ratio":1.203125}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":77,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":735.0,"score_ratio":1.4528301887}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":77,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":668.0,"score_ratio":2.6551724138}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhk47f","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668536073,"score_A":12,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2830.0,"score_ratio":6.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhk47f","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668536073,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":77,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You should look into nail caps, they are plastic caps you essentially use nail glue to keep the nail covered so they still retain their claws, but cannot actually scratch the furniture.  You have to keep up with and replace them, but it is an alternative to declawing which causes a lot of pain.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":488.0,"score_ratio":6.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":64,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":31.0,"score_ratio":1.2075471698}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiaav","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668535369,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":64,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"If you feel like you need a logical counter argument for your grandparents:  My only experience with a declawed cat was one that a former roommate adopted. It absolutely refused to step foot in a litter box. I don't know if that was because the litter was uncomfortable to step on (the other poster is correct, declawing means amputating up to the first joint), or if the cat had another behavior issue, but the end result was that it would only potty on things that were soft. Beds, sofas, clothes, rugs, etc. It was an absolute nightmare. Clawed furniture is not ideal but at least it can still be used and reupholstered later. Nobody wants to sit on a sofa that's been peed all over.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2126.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhi7ev","c_root_id_B":"iwhozys","created_at_utc_A":1668535338,"created_at_utc_B":1668537935,"score_A":53,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","human_ref_B":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2597.0,"score_ratio":1.0188679245}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhi7ev","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668535338,"score_A":12,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry how awful this is going to come across but do not move in to your grandparents house and if they give you a hard time, you're doing them a favor. Cats cannot be declawed. It's horrible and hurts them more than is comprehensible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2095.0,"score_ratio":4.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhozys","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668537935,"score_A":29,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2530.0,"score_ratio":1.8620689655}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhozys","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668537935,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":54,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1760.0,"score_ratio":1.7419354839}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhozys","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668537935,"score_A":12,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4692.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhozys","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668537935,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":54,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2350.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhozys","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668537935,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":54,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Youre doing a favor moving in no? To be frank Id lay down the law and say you won\u2019t move in without a healthy cat, claws in tact?","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1165.0,"score_ratio":7.7142857143}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhqe48","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668538466,"score_A":48,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1684.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqe48","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668538466,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":45,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3061.0,"score_ratio":1.5517241379}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqe48","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668538466,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":45,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2291.0,"score_ratio":1.4516129032}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhqe48","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668538466,"score_A":24,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":121.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhqe48","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668538466,"score_A":18,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":49.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhqe48","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668538466,"score_A":12,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5223.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqe48","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668538466,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":45,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2881.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqe48","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668538466,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":45,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"If they want your help they are in no position to make a demand like that. You can tell them you will get scratching posts and try to divert the cat scratching but if they want your help (and they aren\u2019t asking a small thing here) they need to accept it comes with a clawed cat and their furniture may get a little scratched up. Is not getting the help they need\/want worth not risking their furniture? That is their choice to make.they should be happy you are willing and wanting to help. Not asking you to mutilate your pet so you can do them a big favor.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1696.0,"score_ratio":6.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhutcz","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668540150,"score_A":29,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4745.0,"score_ratio":1.6551724138}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":48,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3975.0,"score_ratio":1.5483870968}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhqei7","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668538471,"score_A":48,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1679.0,"score_ratio":1.92}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhutcz","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668540150,"score_A":24,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1805.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhq9bp","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668538417,"score_A":48,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1733.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhssmo","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668539379,"score_A":48,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":771.0,"score_ratio":2.8235294118}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhutcz","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668540150,"score_A":12,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6907.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":48,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4565.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhsuwd","c_root_id_B":"iwhutcz","created_at_utc_A":1668539403,"created_at_utc_B":1668540150,"score_A":12,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","human_ref_B":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":747.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhutcz","c_root_id_B":"iwhu9u7","created_at_utc_A":1668540150,"created_at_utc_B":1668539944,"score_A":48,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":206.0,"score_ratio":4.3636363636}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhutcz","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668540150,"score_A":7,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"It's banned in many places  Your grandparents are out of date. Don't do it. It's animal cruelty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3380.0,"score_ratio":6.8571428571}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhidpk","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668535405,"score_A":31,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6214.0,"score_ratio":1.0689655172}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":31,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1268.0,"score_ratio":1.0689655172}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhqei7","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668538471,"score_A":31,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3148.0,"score_ratio":1.24}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":24,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3274.0,"score_ratio":1.2916666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhvawa","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540334,"score_A":31,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1285.0,"score_ratio":1.347826087}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":18,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3202.0,"score_ratio":1.7222222222}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhssmo","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668539379,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":17,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2240.0,"score_ratio":1.8235294118}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhwoeq","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540855,"score_A":31,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":764.0,"score_ratio":2.2142857143}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":31,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":755.0,"score_ratio":2.0666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":12,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8376.0,"score_ratio":2.5833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":12,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6034.0,"score_ratio":2.5833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhsuwd","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668539403,"score_A":31,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2216.0,"score_ratio":2.5833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhu9u7","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668539944,"score_A":31,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1675.0,"score_ratio":2.8181818182}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhuxom","c_root_id_B":"iwhypab","created_at_utc_A":1668540195,"created_at_utc_B":1668541619,"score_A":8,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","human_ref_B":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1424.0,"score_ratio":3.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhw248","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540619,"score_A":31,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"Yes to the nail caps!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1000.0,"score_ratio":3.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhypab","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668541619,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":31,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Tell them you will trim the claws, which is just as effective.  Your vet can do it for you, but it is easy to do if you are willing to just do a claw at a time.  You can clip a claw each day and rotate through all 10 claws on a good schedule.  The sharp hook is the part that snags furniture.    There is no reason to declaw a cat.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4849.0,"score_ratio":4.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":29,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":770.0,"score_ratio":1.0689655172}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhidpk","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668535405,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":29,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"If the only thing they are worried about it furniture I would absolutely refuse. cats will only do that if they don\u2019t have enrichment, just provide some scratching boards and toys. there are also other options like caps for their nails or keeping them trimmed. declawing can also cause problems like them not wanting to use the litter box, because declawing is essentially like ripping out a knuckle, and litter is painful on a wound like that. wish the best of luck to you.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2162.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhkdpg","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668536175,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":31,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2932.0,"score_ratio":2.5833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhkdpg","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668536175,"score_A":12,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"There is always a choice, please don\u2019t do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":590.0,"score_ratio":2.5833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqei7","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668538471,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":25,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1880.0,"score_ratio":1.16}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":24,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2006.0,"score_ratio":1.2083333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvcod","c_root_id_B":"iwhvawa","created_at_utc_A":1668540351,"created_at_utc_B":1668540334,"score_A":29,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","human_ref_B":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17.0,"score_ratio":1.2608695652}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvcod","c_root_id_B":"iwhq9bp","created_at_utc_A":1668540351,"created_at_utc_B":1668538417,"score_A":29,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","human_ref_B":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1934.0,"score_ratio":1.6111111111}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhssmo","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668539379,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":17,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":972.0,"score_ratio":1.7058823529}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvcod","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668540351,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":29,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7108.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvcod","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668540351,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":29,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4766.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvcod","c_root_id_B":"iwhsuwd","created_at_utc_A":1668540351,"created_at_utc_B":1668539403,"score_A":29,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","human_ref_B":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":948.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhu9u7","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668539944,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":11,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":407.0,"score_ratio":2.6363636364}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhuxom","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668540195,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":8,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":156.0,"score_ratio":3.625}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhvcod","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668540351,"score_A":7,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s toxic and controlling of your grandparents to force you to do that. Suggest alternatives, such as claw capping or claw trimming\/buffing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3581.0,"score_ratio":4.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhqei7","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668538471,"score_A":24,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":126.0,"score_ratio":1.0416666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhqei7","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668538471,"score_A":18,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":54.0,"score_ratio":1.3888888889}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqei7","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668538471,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":25,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5228.0,"score_ratio":2.0833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhqei7","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668538471,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":25,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2886.0,"score_ratio":2.0833333333}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhqei7","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668538471,"score_A":7,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"ugh, sorry to be in this position. absolutely do not declaw a cat, its equivalent to amputating your fingers at the first knuckle. in european countries it's outlawed, only in america do we allow this for convenience.  here's some things you can do: make sure your kitty has dedicated scratching posts and plenty of things she cans scratch! try claw caps (unsure of actual name), these usually hold for a few weeks before needing to be replaced. maybe longer, it's been a while since i've looked into these don't move in with them?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1701.0,"score_ratio":3.5714285714}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhq2fp","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668538345,"score_A":12,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Please don't declaw your cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5102.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":24,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2760.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq2fp","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668538345,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":24,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Please don't declaw your cat.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1575.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhvawa","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668540334,"score_A":18,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1917.0,"score_ratio":1.2777777778}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhssmo","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668539379,"score_A":23,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":955.0,"score_ratio":1.3529411765}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":23,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7091.0,"score_ratio":1.9166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhiuwe","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668535585,"score_A":23,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4749.0,"score_ratio":1.9166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhsuwd","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668539403,"score_A":23,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":931.0,"score_ratio":1.9166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhu9u7","c_root_id_B":"iwhvawa","created_at_utc_A":1668539944,"created_at_utc_B":1668540334,"score_A":11,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","human_ref_B":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":390.0,"score_ratio":2.0909090909}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhuxom","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668540195,"score_A":23,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":139.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhvawa","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668540334,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":23,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"There is a reason it's outlawed in many countries and some US states, it's inhumane and quite frankly animal cruelty. Please find another suitable option or don't move in.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3564.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhq9bp","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668538417,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":18,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5174.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhq9bp","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668538417,"score_A":12,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2832.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhq9bp","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668538417,"score_A":7,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"you could always offer to trim her nails every week if she (the cat) is okay with it. otherwise, just don\u2019t move in with them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1647.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhssmo","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668539379,"score_A":12,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6136.0,"score_ratio":1.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhssmo","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668539379,"score_A":12,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3794.0,"score_ratio":1.4166666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhssmo","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668539379,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":17,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Please please don't do it. Declawing will set her up for a lifetime of pain and problems. No vet worth their buck won't do it anyway.   If they're willing to compromise on soft paws I'd highly recommend trying that! Also as another commenter mentioned, having lots of scratching options both horizontal and vertical will help mitigate furniture scratching.   If grandparents aren't willing to compromise, don't move in with them. They can find other help that doesn't involve harming a living creature.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2609.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":14,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhcrti","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668533243,"score_A":14,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7612.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhwoeq","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668540855,"score_A":12,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5270.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhsuwd","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668539403,"score_A":14,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1452.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhu9u7","c_root_id_B":"iwhwoeq","created_at_utc_A":1668539944,"created_at_utc_B":1668540855,"score_A":11,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":911.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhuxom","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668540195,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":660.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhw248","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668540619,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"Yes to the nail caps!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":236.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwoeq","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668540855,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re in this position. You\u2019re doing *them* a favour. I would say to them that if declawing your cat is a condition of you moving in, you won\u2019t be moving in.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4085.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhcrti","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668533243,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":12,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Is keeping her claws trimmed an option?","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7621.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhiuwe","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668535585,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":12,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Buy them new furniture when you move out then. It\u2019s cruel to do that to your cat, and you\u2019d be a very bad owner to maim your cat to preserve an inanimate object","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5279.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhsuwd","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668539403,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":12,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1461.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhu9u7","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668539944,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":11,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":920.0,"score_ratio":1.3636363636}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwp7k","c_root_id_B":"iwhuxom","created_at_utc_A":1668540864,"created_at_utc_B":1668540195,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","human_ref_B":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":669.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhw248","c_root_id_B":"iwhwp7k","created_at_utc_A":1668540619,"created_at_utc_B":1668540864,"score_A":8,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Yes to the nail caps!","human_ref_B":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":245.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhwp7k","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668540864,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":15,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT declaw your cat. If your grandparents are THAT concerned about the furniture get claw caps to glue on her claws. Explain how painful and damaging it is to the kitty, it will likely lead to arthritis and make her averse to litter box use because scratch will hurt her. It's like removing the last joint of the finger on a person, not just the nail (which would hurt bad enough)","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4094.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhsuwd","c_root_id_B":"iwhly3m","created_at_utc_A":1668539403,"created_at_utc_B":1668536770,"score_A":12,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"DO NOT DO THIS ! this should not even be a first option. this was such an awful thing for them to request since they are asking for you to help them. if the cat is important don't move in with them. if you feel that you need to live with them i would find a loving home for the cat or talk to your grandparents about just trimming your cats nails and putting nail caps on your cat.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2633.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhu9u7","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668539944,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"They have nail caps for cats!!!!! Do not declaw!!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3174.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhuxom","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668540195,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"Nail Caps will save furniture and is humane.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3425.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yw3ppt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"I\u2019m being forced to declaw my cat Hey you guys. Recently my grandmother was diagnosed with kidney failure and had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks for her kidneys to start back up. My grandparents asked that I move in with them to help out but I have a cat who is my absolute best friend. I\u2019ve had her for 2 years and we\u2019ve been inseparable. My grandparents agreed to having her move in with us. Recently they started to worry more and more about furniture being destroyed. They just told me that the only way to keep her with me is to declaw her front two paws. I am in shambles. I have always been against declawing.. do any you guys have declawed cats? Do they change afterwards? I just really need some guidance. When they told me I had to do this I immediately went to the bathroom and bawled my eyes out. Lala is my bestfriend and I don\u2019t want her to be in pain.","c_root_id_A":"iwhly3m","c_root_id_B":"iwhw248","created_at_utc_A":1668536770,"created_at_utc_B":1668540619,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried behavior modification strategies first. Adding scratching posts and a lot of vertical space in the house can make a huge difference. Also kitty caps as someone else suggested.","human_ref_B":"Yes to the nail caps!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3849.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"qtytsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?","c_root_id_A":"hkn8av8","c_root_id_B":"hknf7ob","created_at_utc_A":1636928337,"created_at_utc_B":1636931269,"score_A":58,"score_B":179,"human_ref_A":"I think you can try talking to the internal medicine doctor's office and explain how the mistake in the report lead to the procedure and see what they can do for you. It's certainly not the surgeon's fault, at least. I wouldn't say it's common though I would want to see the full copies of both reports - the one the surgeon received first and then the corrected one - before actually being able to argue any further.","human_ref_B":"Get documentation for everything and approach the internal medicine doctors practice for damages. It is not the surgeons fault and they should not be held responsible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2932.0,"score_ratio":3.0862068966}
{"post_id":"qtytsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?","c_root_id_A":"hknk16i","c_root_id_B":"hknuhlo","created_at_utc_A":1636933361,"created_at_utc_B":1636938098,"score_A":7,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"I would get a lawyer if I were you to discuss this matter and your options before contacting this hospital. They will try to downplay the incident and make it go away.","human_ref_B":"I would ask for a copy of the records from your regular vet clinic because everything should have been sent there by the referral practice.  Review the records and organize your concerns before calling the referral practice.  If how you described things is accurate and complete as to what happened, I would ask for a refund of the surgery and for some of the IM fees.  It's good for them to know this so they can make whatever changes are necessary to prevent this from happening again in the future.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4737.0,"score_ratio":4.4285714286}
{"post_id":"qtytsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?","c_root_id_A":"hkoxnjm","c_root_id_B":"hkpilrf","created_at_utc_A":1636958678,"created_at_utc_B":1636975795,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"r\/legaladvice","human_ref_B":"Talk to someone that is in charge of the practice. Ask them why the mistake was made and what do they normally do to prevent those issues happening. Unfortunately vets are only people and they do make mistakes. I feel sorry for your doggy and you and fully understand your concerns, however calm discussion with the practice manager would be probably the first step.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17117.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"qtytsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?","c_root_id_A":"hkpilrf","c_root_id_B":"hkogvb2","created_at_utc_A":1636975795,"created_at_utc_B":1636948592,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Talk to someone that is in charge of the practice. Ask them why the mistake was made and what do they normally do to prevent those issues happening. Unfortunately vets are only people and they do make mistakes. I feel sorry for your doggy and you and fully understand your concerns, however calm discussion with the practice manager would be probably the first step.","human_ref_B":"Do you have pet insurance? They should pay for the procedure and then hound the doctor's office to get reimbursed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27203.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"qtytsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?","c_root_id_A":"hkogvb2","c_root_id_B":"hkoxnjm","created_at_utc_A":1636948592,"created_at_utc_B":1636958678,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Do you have pet insurance? They should pay for the procedure and then hound the doctor's office to get reimbursed.","human_ref_B":"r\/legaladvice","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10086.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcwwja","c_root_id_B":"gzd1wlr","created_at_utc_A":1621918603,"created_at_utc_B":1621922231,"score_A":13,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you have to deal with this situation . If you got this cat to the vet earlier he might have a better chance to survive, but no one can guarantee that. You shouldn't  blame yourself because you are inexperienced about the situation and you followed the instructions of the owner, this young cat had UTI before and the owner still decided to wait, they really made a big mistake.  Now you learn a blockage is a very dangerous situation, and it's very common, hopefully you can use this experience to prevent similar incident happens to your cats.","human_ref_B":"First of all, I'm so sorry this happened to you and to the kitty. It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and dissect what we've done after it's all over. A conscientious person will torture themselves with 'what-ifs'. Don't do it. It would have gone down even worse if you hadn't cared, and hadn't worried, and hadn't taken him to the vet. I guarantee you that if this ever happens to you again, you will handle it even better than you already did. Some of us see that situation every day. Some us never see it. Keep that in mind and be gentler with yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3628.0,"score_ratio":3.3846153846}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcu3z8","c_root_id_B":"gzd1wlr","created_at_utc_A":1621916728,"created_at_utc_B":1621922231,"score_A":5,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","human_ref_B":"First of all, I'm so sorry this happened to you and to the kitty. It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and dissect what we've done after it's all over. A conscientious person will torture themselves with 'what-ifs'. Don't do it. It would have gone down even worse if you hadn't cared, and hadn't worried, and hadn't taken him to the vet. I guarantee you that if this ever happens to you again, you will handle it even better than you already did. Some of us see that situation every day. Some us never see it. Keep that in mind and be gentler with yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5503.0,"score_ratio":8.8}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzd1wlr","c_root_id_B":"gzcx1hh","created_at_utc_A":1621922231,"created_at_utc_B":1621918700,"score_A":44,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"First of all, I'm so sorry this happened to you and to the kitty. It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and dissect what we've done after it's all over. A conscientious person will torture themselves with 'what-ifs'. Don't do it. It would have gone down even worse if you hadn't cared, and hadn't worried, and hadn't taken him to the vet. I guarantee you that if this ever happens to you again, you will handle it even better than you already did. Some of us see that situation every day. Some us never see it. Keep that in mind and be gentler with yourself.","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3531.0,"score_ratio":14.6666666667}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzd3iha","c_root_id_B":"gzcwwja","created_at_utc_A":1621923450,"created_at_utc_B":1621918603,"score_A":23,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Hindsight is 20\/20. Don\u2019t torture yourself. You did the best you could in the moment. I am sure he went peacefully with the owners and vet there to make him comfortable. I am sorry you went through this.","human_ref_B":"So sorry you have to deal with this situation . If you got this cat to the vet earlier he might have a better chance to survive, but no one can guarantee that. You shouldn't  blame yourself because you are inexperienced about the situation and you followed the instructions of the owner, this young cat had UTI before and the owner still decided to wait, they really made a big mistake.  Now you learn a blockage is a very dangerous situation, and it's very common, hopefully you can use this experience to prevent similar incident happens to your cats.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4847.0,"score_ratio":1.7692307692}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcu3z8","c_root_id_B":"gzd3iha","created_at_utc_A":1621916728,"created_at_utc_B":1621923450,"score_A":5,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","human_ref_B":"Hindsight is 20\/20. Don\u2019t torture yourself. You did the best you could in the moment. I am sure he went peacefully with the owners and vet there to make him comfortable. I am sorry you went through this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6722.0,"score_ratio":4.6}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcx1hh","c_root_id_B":"gzd3iha","created_at_utc_A":1621918700,"created_at_utc_B":1621923450,"score_A":3,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","human_ref_B":"Hindsight is 20\/20. Don\u2019t torture yourself. You did the best you could in the moment. I am sure he went peacefully with the owners and vet there to make him comfortable. I am sorry you went through this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4750.0,"score_ratio":7.6666666667}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcwwja","c_root_id_B":"gzcu3z8","created_at_utc_A":1621918603,"created_at_utc_B":1621916728,"score_A":13,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"So sorry you have to deal with this situation . If you got this cat to the vet earlier he might have a better chance to survive, but no one can guarantee that. You shouldn't  blame yourself because you are inexperienced about the situation and you followed the instructions of the owner, this young cat had UTI before and the owner still decided to wait, they really made a big mistake.  Now you learn a blockage is a very dangerous situation, and it's very common, hopefully you can use this experience to prevent similar incident happens to your cats.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1875.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcu3z8","c_root_id_B":"gzdm24v","created_at_utc_A":1621916728,"created_at_utc_B":1621940282,"score_A":5,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","human_ref_B":"Awe first off I'm so sorry this happened and that you had to go through that. And sorry for kitty too. But you honestly did all you could, and you had no way of knowing he was sick until you found him. It's pretty normal for cats to hide out especially when their owners are away, so please don't beat yourself up! You did your best and if it weren't for you the owners wouldn't have even gotten the chance to say goodbye. Hope you feel better soon, sending hugs \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23554.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcx1hh","c_root_id_B":"gzdm24v","created_at_utc_A":1621918700,"created_at_utc_B":1621940282,"score_A":3,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","human_ref_B":"Awe first off I'm so sorry this happened and that you had to go through that. And sorry for kitty too. But you honestly did all you could, and you had no way of knowing he was sick until you found him. It's pretty normal for cats to hide out especially when their owners are away, so please don't beat yourself up! You did your best and if it weren't for you the owners wouldn't have even gotten the chance to say goodbye. Hope you feel better soon, sending hugs \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21582.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcu3z8","c_root_id_B":"gzeem47","created_at_utc_A":1621916728,"created_at_utc_B":1621955721,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","human_ref_B":"you literally did everything you could. no one would have done it better.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":38993.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzeem47","c_root_id_B":"gzcx1hh","created_at_utc_A":1621955721,"created_at_utc_B":1621918700,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"you literally did everything you could. no one would have done it better.","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37021.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzeardq","c_root_id_B":"gzcu3z8","created_at_utc_A":1621953991,"created_at_utc_B":1621916728,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I work at a vet hospital. You did everything you could do. I\u2019m so sorry this happened to you, sometimes it\u2019s more painful when we feel responsible for another\u2019s loved one in our care. However, you did all the right things. I hope this helps you find some peace.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s so easy to ruminate over what you \u201cshould have\u201d known or done. You did your best for him and your genuine love and care is apparent. I\u2019m so glad he was still hanging in there when you checked on him and that you, someone he knew and liked, could be there for him. It\u2019s terrible luck that he became so ill while his mom and dad were away. Like the other commenter said, please be kind to yourself. Thank you for being a good person. I hope you get to feeling better soon. Take care.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37263.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzeardq","c_root_id_B":"gzcx1hh","created_at_utc_A":1621953991,"created_at_utc_B":1621918700,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I work at a vet hospital. You did everything you could do. I\u2019m so sorry this happened to you, sometimes it\u2019s more painful when we feel responsible for another\u2019s loved one in our care. However, you did all the right things. I hope this helps you find some peace.","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35291.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"nkeazm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Could I have done anything more to save my neighbors cat? 4 year old, short haired cat.   My neighbors went to a wedding out of state and asked me to take care of their cats for a week. I have done this several times and the guy was an old coworker of mine and we get along great. They even watch my cats when I am out of town.   But 2 nights ago, the one cat was no where to be seen. He\u2019s done this before but mostly when he hears loud noises like other neighbors or even when I walk up the stairs. But most of the time he\u2019s out greeting me. Well, I found it odd I didn\u2019t see him that night but passed it off as him hiding.   The next morning (yesterday), I fed the cats and he was no where to be seen again. I saw some puke on the floor and saw he pooped in the living room but I figured at least he was still doing stuff. But I tried finding him and I couldn\u2019t. So I decided to check back an hour and a half later.   When I opened the door when I returned, he was laying right in front of the door. I had to push him with the door in order to get in. I was relieved at first until I picked him up and realized he was limp except is head moved a bit. I laid him in the kitchen and put food and water beside him but he didn\u2019t show interest. I was getting scared and texted the owners. They called and said they will take him to the vet when they get home and he\u2019s had UTI before. They were about 7 hour drive away still.  I didn\u2019t feel good leaving him there alone so I brought him to my house and I kept him near me. By this time he already threw up bile and he was laying in it so I wanted to stay by him just in case he did it again.   After about two hours his breathing was worse and he was meowing faintly. Now I was extremely terrified and called the owners and said I am taking him to the emergency vet if that was ok by them. They said yes and thanked me.  He got taken in right away. Because I wasn\u2019t the owner, they called my neighbor to tell them the diagnosis as I was still waiting in the parking lot. They called me to tell me that he had a blockage in the bladder\/kidney and his levels were through the roof but he was stable.   Well, he passed away last night. My neighbors were able to go in and see him one last time before he passed.   Maybe I just feel guilty because I feel like I should have known right away the first night that there was something wrong.   The owners thanked me and said they wouldn\u2019t have trusted their cat with anyone else because no one else (that they knew) would have went back after feeding in the morning to check up on him.   But I just feel bad and I love cats and I been watching them for years now. I guess I just want to know, if I had taken him the day before, would be still be alive or was this inevitable? I know it\u2019s hard to say because you would need the official cause of death but I guess I am looking for an answer.   He wasn\u2019t my cat but I been crying for hours now because I was holding him as he was dying and his owners weren\u2019t there to comfort him in his last hours like I did.   I miss him. Thank you for reading this if you did.","c_root_id_A":"gzcx1hh","c_root_id_B":"gzeynz5","created_at_utc_A":1621918700,"created_at_utc_B":1621964357,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet. You did everything you could have done. You went back You looked for him You checked again if it wasn't for you they may not have gotten to say that last goodbye. You did a good job and I am sorry this happened to you but I am glad that furbaby had you as a comfort in his time of need.","human_ref_B":"In my opinion you did all you could, you saw something was wrong and did all you could to try and help him it wasn't your fault these things happen. It could have been alot worse and I'm happy that the neighbor's didn't blame you and I'm so sorry that happened. Once again you did all you could.\u2665\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":45657.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"w50vo8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Vet\/Pet ER told us we needed $10k surgery or our 2 year old puppy would die! My wife and I took our dog to the vet last week after she was displaying lethargy, unwillingness to eat, and vomiting for about a week. We figured for the first few days she was depressed since we had recently brought home a newborn around the time she started displaying these symptoms. But since these symptoms were persistent, we weren\u2019t sure whether or not it could be a block in her GI tract since the symptoms are identical.   So we take her in to our vet for an emergency appointment. They take an x-ray and do some blood work on her to rule out the blockage. About an hour later our vet calls us and tells us they suspect a blockage due to her intensities appearing dilated; but they would have their \u201cexpert\u201d take a look at these X-rays for further confirmation.   An hour later, we get a call back from our vet saying that the expert also suspects a foreign body in the GI tract. Since it\u2019s Friday evening, we take her to  the VCA hospital for an ultrasound at the recommendation of our vet to find out exactly what it is inside of her.   When we arrive to the VCA, we take her in, and are told to wait in the car while they examine her. Then they perform the ultrasound, and tell us based on their findings, she had an upper small intestinal blockage, which may have leaked out into her stomach and there was some free floating fluid. They then create urgency by telling us that either aggressive fluids (quoted at $4-5k) or exploratory surgery (quoted at $8-9k) are the only options to keep her alive.  Our dog means the world to us, as I\u2019m sure anyone can understand. But with having a newborn baby and a family to support, I couldn\u2019t put us in a place financially by paying for that surgery. So I tell them that since those options won\u2019t work for us financially, and I ask if we can surrender her so that she can get the care she needs and lives. They continue to tell me that there is no way to surrender her.   At that point we decided that we would have to put her down so that she would not suffer. We go inside then ready to say goodbye to our girl. We get put into a room and wait a few minutes. A tech comes in and tells us that we were misinformed about the surrender policy, and that we can surrender her somewhere else but not there. (I believe they told us that there were no surrenders over they phone to make us feel hopeless and pay for their price gouging surgery). She then continues to give us a pitch on their financing options so that we can save her life since they didn\u2019t feel comfortable putting down a young dog.   When we tell them again that we cannot take on that kind of debt, they give a list of places to call to surrender her. Every place they gave us the name to was closed for the evening except one, who was unable to help us at that time. FINALLY we got the local humane society on the phone. They were so helpful and took our girl in to take care of her and give her a chance at life.   Fast forward five days. My wife gets a phone call from the humane society saying that she is perfectly healthy, she eating and playing and pooping just fine. There was no need for the surgery and their X-rays showed no sign of a blockage. We were thrilled and they let us come back and pick her up to take her home.   My reason for this post is not only to share our crazy story, but to ask, is this normal for such an off misdiagnosis? Was the ER playing our heartstrings to try and rob us of $10k?","c_root_id_A":"ih5lvi2","c_root_id_B":"ih5uywx","created_at_utc_A":1658469611,"created_at_utc_B":1658476181,"score_A":151,"score_B":192,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not.  They gave you their best assessment of the situation at the time with the information available which seems fairly ample (imaging - X-rays with a radiologist interpretation and ultrasound, bloods, and exams) - this lends credence to their assessment.  Medicine is not an exact science and there are no guarantees.  Some cases that look dire pull through and other cases that seem low risk can really go sideways (without fault to the vet\/clinic).  You should be absolutely delighted that your dog ended up being ok - this also doesn\u2019t mean the vet was wrong in their recommendations.  There was never an guarantee that he would die or be ok - your vet gave you their assessment and prediction so you could make an informed decision.  I think your dog was very lucky and that is wonderful.  Don\u2019t disparage the veterinarian or the clinic as there is nothing to suggest they were not doing their best to help you and your dog (I say this also as someone who does not support the corporatization of vet clinics by VCA et al).","human_ref_B":"Get insurance, she is a family member.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6570.0,"score_ratio":1.2715231788}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2omv","c_root_id_B":"eda57ko","created_at_utc_A":1546664490,"created_at_utc_B":1546666998,"score_A":87,"score_B":219,"human_ref_A":"Because medicine is complex, and anecdotes range from not helpful to actively harmful.   This sub is fantastic when the question is appropriate. But when you get the standard \u2018hey my dog has been collapsed on the floor panting all day bleeding from the mouth wtf should I do\u2019 the answer is go to the damn vet. That\u2019s the only answer, and it\u2019s appropriate that that\u2019s the answer you get.","human_ref_B":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2508.0,"score_ratio":2.5172413793}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda57ko","c_root_id_B":"eda4xap","created_at_utc_A":1546666998,"created_at_utc_B":1546666721,"score_A":219,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve gotten valuable information here. Such as when asking about why it\u2019s difficult to break the cycle of worms and the vets\/students explained how the life cycles worked. Oftentimes when Ive gone to the vet I get home and think of more questions or need better explanations. BUT that\u2019s about it for here, other than that it\u2019s always \u201cgo to a vet\u201d which can be frustrating. But I\u2019m sure it\u2019s just to protect us from invalid information.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":277.0,"score_ratio":2.5764705882}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda57ko","c_root_id_B":"eda324e","created_at_utc_A":1546666998,"created_at_utc_B":1546664879,"score_A":219,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","human_ref_B":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2119.0,"score_ratio":3.9107142857}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda1wh6","c_root_id_B":"eda57ko","created_at_utc_A":1546663698,"created_at_utc_B":1546666998,"score_A":33,"score_B":219,"human_ref_A":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","human_ref_B":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3300.0,"score_ratio":6.6363636364}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"eda57ko","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546666998,"score_A":9,"score_B":219,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1658.0,"score_ratio":24.3333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"eda57ko","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546666998,"score_A":10,"score_B":219,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"Because the flood of \u2018what is this bump on my cat?\u2019 and \u2018my dog has been vomiting for 3 days, is there anything I can do without going to the vet?\u2019 Style questions are ubiquitous.  If people want rando owners giving anecdotes and telling them medical advice, I\u2019m sure they could visit specific reddit forums for that.   If you want a medical professional looking to give advice about \u2018is my dog going to be ok?\u2019 Ethically it would be terrible to be like \u2018sure random internet stranger, my dog had that and was ok after a few hours\u2019 and then OP\u2019s dog dies.  Saving you money shouldn\u2019t be a goal of this sub: making sure you acquire the best medical care for your pets should be.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2375.0,"score_ratio":21.9}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2omv","c_root_id_B":"eda1wh6","created_at_utc_A":1546664490,"created_at_utc_B":1546663698,"score_A":87,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Because medicine is complex, and anecdotes range from not helpful to actively harmful.   This sub is fantastic when the question is appropriate. But when you get the standard \u2018hey my dog has been collapsed on the floor panting all day bleeding from the mouth wtf should I do\u2019 the answer is go to the damn vet. That\u2019s the only answer, and it\u2019s appropriate that that\u2019s the answer you get.","human_ref_B":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","labels":1,"seconds_difference":792.0,"score_ratio":2.6363636364}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda4xap","c_root_id_B":"eda324e","created_at_utc_A":1546666721,"created_at_utc_B":1546664879,"score_A":85,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve gotten valuable information here. Such as when asking about why it\u2019s difficult to break the cycle of worms and the vets\/students explained how the life cycles worked. Oftentimes when Ive gone to the vet I get home and think of more questions or need better explanations. BUT that\u2019s about it for here, other than that it\u2019s always \u201cgo to a vet\u201d which can be frustrating. But I\u2019m sure it\u2019s just to protect us from invalid information.","human_ref_B":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1842.0,"score_ratio":1.5178571429}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda1wh6","c_root_id_B":"eda4xap","created_at_utc_A":1546663698,"created_at_utc_B":1546666721,"score_A":33,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve gotten valuable information here. Such as when asking about why it\u2019s difficult to break the cycle of worms and the vets\/students explained how the life cycles worked. Oftentimes when Ive gone to the vet I get home and think of more questions or need better explanations. BUT that\u2019s about it for here, other than that it\u2019s always \u201cgo to a vet\u201d which can be frustrating. But I\u2019m sure it\u2019s just to protect us from invalid information.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3023.0,"score_ratio":2.5757575758}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"eda4xap","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546666721,"score_A":9,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve gotten valuable information here. Such as when asking about why it\u2019s difficult to break the cycle of worms and the vets\/students explained how the life cycles worked. Oftentimes when Ive gone to the vet I get home and think of more questions or need better explanations. BUT that\u2019s about it for here, other than that it\u2019s always \u201cgo to a vet\u201d which can be frustrating. But I\u2019m sure it\u2019s just to protect us from invalid information.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1381.0,"score_ratio":9.4444444444}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"eda4xap","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546666721,"score_A":10,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve gotten valuable information here. Such as when asking about why it\u2019s difficult to break the cycle of worms and the vets\/students explained how the life cycles worked. Oftentimes when Ive gone to the vet I get home and think of more questions or need better explanations. BUT that\u2019s about it for here, other than that it\u2019s always \u201cgo to a vet\u201d which can be frustrating. But I\u2019m sure it\u2019s just to protect us from invalid information.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2098.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda324e","c_root_id_B":"eda66kh","created_at_utc_A":1546664879,"created_at_utc_B":1546667882,"score_A":56,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","human_ref_B":"It's not r\/FreeDiagnosis. There are other things you can ask a veterinarian other than diagnosis of an animal they can't physically see.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3003.0,"score_ratio":1.3392857143}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda1wh6","c_root_id_B":"eda66kh","created_at_utc_A":1546663698,"created_at_utc_B":1546667882,"score_A":33,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","human_ref_B":"It's not r\/FreeDiagnosis. There are other things you can ask a veterinarian other than diagnosis of an animal they can't physically see.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4184.0,"score_ratio":2.2727272727}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda66kh","c_root_id_B":"eda3hxg","created_at_utc_A":1546667882,"created_at_utc_B":1546665340,"score_A":75,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"It's not r\/FreeDiagnosis. There are other things you can ask a veterinarian other than diagnosis of an animal they can't physically see.","human_ref_B":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2542.0,"score_ratio":8.3333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"eda66kh","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546667882,"score_A":10,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"It's not r\/FreeDiagnosis. There are other things you can ask a veterinarian other than diagnosis of an animal they can't physically see.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3259.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda8xvs","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546670603,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":57,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"So, I get it. All types of medicine costs money, both human and veterinary, and veterinary medicine can sometimes feel like it costs A LOT because we don't really have widespread insurance plans for our pets like we do for humans.  And do you know what? We're sorry about that. We really are. But, the reality is...we maybe charge you somewhere between $45-95 USD per one view of an X-ray. I just had 2 views of my knee the other day for $300 a pop...that's $600 for two x-rays (and I've already had 3 and I need 2-3 more...so we're talking ~$1400 in 3 weeks for just x-rays for a stupid knee that we already know is broken). I've left my vet for under $300 for 3 full cat-o-grams (please note, this pricing is of course dependent on area that you live in). I can't get myself an exam and x-rays of my ENTIRE body for under $300 even WITH insurance...that's just not possible.  Bottom line...my knee surgeon is making bank while I am going to be $300,000 USD in debt when I graduate from vet school. I'm not mad that he's making money. I like cats, he likes humans. That's cool.  What isn't cool is that a lot of people think that vets just owe them something for free because we love animals. Yes, I love your pet. Yes, I want to help your pet, and I ABSOLUTELY want to help you. But if your dog has been vomiting for 7 days and you haven't thought to yourself \"oh hey, maybe I should call his doctor\", you have absolutely ZERO right to get mad at me when I say \"yo, call your vet\".  Let us put things in perspective here. If you were itchy for 10 months, if you were vomiting for 7 days, or if you were pooping blood for like 3 days...what would you do? Go to the ER, right? Yeah, so let's like...maybe offer your pet the same? They cannot tell us they fell like absolute utter crap...YOU get to be the judge of that.  Take you pets for a yearly checkup. If money if tight (trust me, I get that...again, $300 grand in debt here), find low-cost clinics in your area or ask your vet for help.  Just, don't blame us internet strangers. Suicide rates in vet med are high. We really do love your pets and we want you to have the best life with your pets...but we aren't Superman. We could lose our jobs if we diagnosed your pet online. Please, don't hold us to that standard...it's just not cool, and we really don't need the pressure.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5489.0,"score_ratio":1.0350877193}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda324e","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546664879,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":56,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11213.0,"score_ratio":1.0535714286}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda9y9c","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546671891,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":34,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"How many hours a day do you spend doing your job for free for people on the internet? Out of curiosity?   Most of the time we say go to the vet because the correct solution is to go to the vet. The posts that get this response are often inappropriate, re: \"My pet has x symptoms, diagnose my pet, and also tell me how to treat it from home. Also I mistrust vets and they're overpriced, so fuck you. Now help me, you greedy assholes taking corporate money from Big Pet Food.\" The types of posts we can give more detailed info on are detailed in our sidebar.   Posts that are likely to get a good response are: \"Is this an emergency or can I wait until tomorrow morning?\" \"I've been to the vet and was confused about some of the topics covered. Can someone clarify?\" \"My pet has been to my regular vet and is still sick and undiagnosed. What are some good next steps?\"   Most people give us ZERO diagnostic results, so when they ask for a diagnosis or prognosis we have literally nothing to go on. If your dog has a limp, it could be orthopedic, behavioral, neoplastic, etc. But give us some radiographs and a CBC plus a good history - that is something we can lend some insight on.   To quote our freaking sidebar: \"We are not here to diagnose pets (no differential guessing) or tell owners specifically how their pets should be treated, but as a second source of information.\"  Secondary. Source. Of. Information.  Not primary.  So if you haven't been to the vet and your pet is sick, we cannot help you - only your veterinarian can.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4201.0,"score_ratio":1.7352941176}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda1wh6","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546663698,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":33,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12394.0,"score_ratio":1.7878787879}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaczge","c_root_id_B":"eda9ix6","created_at_utc_A":1546676092,"created_at_utc_B":1546671339,"score_A":59,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","human_ref_B":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4753.0,"score_ratio":3.9333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":9,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10752.0,"score_ratio":6.5555555556}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"edaczge","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546676092,"score_A":10,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet or in the veterinary field at all.   Most of the questions in here absolutely can't be answered by anything else other than seeing a vet in person, so it's a given that this would be the answer.   People often try to use this sub as a free substitute in place of doing what they need to do, which is seeking the help of a vet in person.  These people here are not miracle workers able to know all and reach across the internet, and they also are giving what advice they feel comfortable with for free.   Why would you complain about that? They don't have to help at all.  And yes vet care is expensive. People incur it when they get pets. It's part and parcel of having one and needs to be considered before taking on the responsibility.   And I say this as someone who's gotten pets a long time ago and my circumstances have changed. I know what it's like to be hit hard by vet bills. They're expensive. Pets are expensive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11469.0,"score_ratio":5.9}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda324e","c_root_id_B":"eda8xvs","created_at_utc_A":1546664879,"created_at_utc_B":1546670603,"score_A":56,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","human_ref_B":"So, I get it. All types of medicine costs money, both human and veterinary, and veterinary medicine can sometimes feel like it costs A LOT because we don't really have widespread insurance plans for our pets like we do for humans.  And do you know what? We're sorry about that. We really are. But, the reality is...we maybe charge you somewhere between $45-95 USD per one view of an X-ray. I just had 2 views of my knee the other day for $300 a pop...that's $600 for two x-rays (and I've already had 3 and I need 2-3 more...so we're talking ~$1400 in 3 weeks for just x-rays for a stupid knee that we already know is broken). I've left my vet for under $300 for 3 full cat-o-grams (please note, this pricing is of course dependent on area that you live in). I can't get myself an exam and x-rays of my ENTIRE body for under $300 even WITH insurance...that's just not possible.  Bottom line...my knee surgeon is making bank while I am going to be $300,000 USD in debt when I graduate from vet school. I'm not mad that he's making money. I like cats, he likes humans. That's cool.  What isn't cool is that a lot of people think that vets just owe them something for free because we love animals. Yes, I love your pet. Yes, I want to help your pet, and I ABSOLUTELY want to help you. But if your dog has been vomiting for 7 days and you haven't thought to yourself \"oh hey, maybe I should call his doctor\", you have absolutely ZERO right to get mad at me when I say \"yo, call your vet\".  Let us put things in perspective here. If you were itchy for 10 months, if you were vomiting for 7 days, or if you were pooping blood for like 3 days...what would you do? Go to the ER, right? Yeah, so let's like...maybe offer your pet the same? They cannot tell us they fell like absolute utter crap...YOU get to be the judge of that.  Take you pets for a yearly checkup. If money if tight (trust me, I get that...again, $300 grand in debt here), find low-cost clinics in your area or ask your vet for help.  Just, don't blame us internet strangers. Suicide rates in vet med are high. We really do love your pets and we want you to have the best life with your pets...but we aren't Superman. We could lose our jobs if we diagnosed your pet online. Please, don't hold us to that standard...it's just not cool, and we really don't need the pressure.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5724.0,"score_ratio":1.0178571429}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda8xvs","c_root_id_B":"eda1wh6","created_at_utc_A":1546670603,"created_at_utc_B":1546663698,"score_A":57,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"So, I get it. All types of medicine costs money, both human and veterinary, and veterinary medicine can sometimes feel like it costs A LOT because we don't really have widespread insurance plans for our pets like we do for humans.  And do you know what? We're sorry about that. We really are. But, the reality is...we maybe charge you somewhere between $45-95 USD per one view of an X-ray. I just had 2 views of my knee the other day for $300 a pop...that's $600 for two x-rays (and I've already had 3 and I need 2-3 more...so we're talking ~$1400 in 3 weeks for just x-rays for a stupid knee that we already know is broken). I've left my vet for under $300 for 3 full cat-o-grams (please note, this pricing is of course dependent on area that you live in). I can't get myself an exam and x-rays of my ENTIRE body for under $300 even WITH insurance...that's just not possible.  Bottom line...my knee surgeon is making bank while I am going to be $300,000 USD in debt when I graduate from vet school. I'm not mad that he's making money. I like cats, he likes humans. That's cool.  What isn't cool is that a lot of people think that vets just owe them something for free because we love animals. Yes, I love your pet. Yes, I want to help your pet, and I ABSOLUTELY want to help you. But if your dog has been vomiting for 7 days and you haven't thought to yourself \"oh hey, maybe I should call his doctor\", you have absolutely ZERO right to get mad at me when I say \"yo, call your vet\".  Let us put things in perspective here. If you were itchy for 10 months, if you were vomiting for 7 days, or if you were pooping blood for like 3 days...what would you do? Go to the ER, right? Yeah, so let's like...maybe offer your pet the same? They cannot tell us they fell like absolute utter crap...YOU get to be the judge of that.  Take you pets for a yearly checkup. If money if tight (trust me, I get that...again, $300 grand in debt here), find low-cost clinics in your area or ask your vet for help.  Just, don't blame us internet strangers. Suicide rates in vet med are high. We really do love your pets and we want you to have the best life with your pets...but we aren't Superman. We could lose our jobs if we diagnosed your pet online. Please, don't hold us to that standard...it's just not cool, and we really don't need the pressure.","human_ref_B":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6905.0,"score_ratio":1.7272727273}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"eda8xvs","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546670603,"score_A":9,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"So, I get it. All types of medicine costs money, both human and veterinary, and veterinary medicine can sometimes feel like it costs A LOT because we don't really have widespread insurance plans for our pets like we do for humans.  And do you know what? We're sorry about that. We really are. But, the reality is...we maybe charge you somewhere between $45-95 USD per one view of an X-ray. I just had 2 views of my knee the other day for $300 a pop...that's $600 for two x-rays (and I've already had 3 and I need 2-3 more...so we're talking ~$1400 in 3 weeks for just x-rays for a stupid knee that we already know is broken). I've left my vet for under $300 for 3 full cat-o-grams (please note, this pricing is of course dependent on area that you live in). I can't get myself an exam and x-rays of my ENTIRE body for under $300 even WITH insurance...that's just not possible.  Bottom line...my knee surgeon is making bank while I am going to be $300,000 USD in debt when I graduate from vet school. I'm not mad that he's making money. I like cats, he likes humans. That's cool.  What isn't cool is that a lot of people think that vets just owe them something for free because we love animals. Yes, I love your pet. Yes, I want to help your pet, and I ABSOLUTELY want to help you. But if your dog has been vomiting for 7 days and you haven't thought to yourself \"oh hey, maybe I should call his doctor\", you have absolutely ZERO right to get mad at me when I say \"yo, call your vet\".  Let us put things in perspective here. If you were itchy for 10 months, if you were vomiting for 7 days, or if you were pooping blood for like 3 days...what would you do? Go to the ER, right? Yeah, so let's like...maybe offer your pet the same? They cannot tell us they fell like absolute utter crap...YOU get to be the judge of that.  Take you pets for a yearly checkup. If money if tight (trust me, I get that...again, $300 grand in debt here), find low-cost clinics in your area or ask your vet for help.  Just, don't blame us internet strangers. Suicide rates in vet med are high. We really do love your pets and we want you to have the best life with your pets...but we aren't Superman. We could lose our jobs if we diagnosed your pet online. Please, don't hold us to that standard...it's just not cool, and we really don't need the pressure.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5263.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda8xvs","c_root_id_B":"eda2t8x","created_at_utc_A":1546670603,"created_at_utc_B":1546664623,"score_A":57,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"So, I get it. All types of medicine costs money, both human and veterinary, and veterinary medicine can sometimes feel like it costs A LOT because we don't really have widespread insurance plans for our pets like we do for humans.  And do you know what? We're sorry about that. We really are. But, the reality is...we maybe charge you somewhere between $45-95 USD per one view of an X-ray. I just had 2 views of my knee the other day for $300 a pop...that's $600 for two x-rays (and I've already had 3 and I need 2-3 more...so we're talking ~$1400 in 3 weeks for just x-rays for a stupid knee that we already know is broken). I've left my vet for under $300 for 3 full cat-o-grams (please note, this pricing is of course dependent on area that you live in). I can't get myself an exam and x-rays of my ENTIRE body for under $300 even WITH insurance...that's just not possible.  Bottom line...my knee surgeon is making bank while I am going to be $300,000 USD in debt when I graduate from vet school. I'm not mad that he's making money. I like cats, he likes humans. That's cool.  What isn't cool is that a lot of people think that vets just owe them something for free because we love animals. Yes, I love your pet. Yes, I want to help your pet, and I ABSOLUTELY want to help you. But if your dog has been vomiting for 7 days and you haven't thought to yourself \"oh hey, maybe I should call his doctor\", you have absolutely ZERO right to get mad at me when I say \"yo, call your vet\".  Let us put things in perspective here. If you were itchy for 10 months, if you were vomiting for 7 days, or if you were pooping blood for like 3 days...what would you do? Go to the ER, right? Yeah, so let's like...maybe offer your pet the same? They cannot tell us they fell like absolute utter crap...YOU get to be the judge of that.  Take you pets for a yearly checkup. If money if tight (trust me, I get that...again, $300 grand in debt here), find low-cost clinics in your area or ask your vet for help.  Just, don't blame us internet strangers. Suicide rates in vet med are high. We really do love your pets and we want you to have the best life with your pets...but we aren't Superman. We could lose our jobs if we diagnosed your pet online. Please, don't hold us to that standard...it's just not cool, and we really don't need the pressure.","human_ref_B":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5980.0,"score_ratio":5.7}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda324e","c_root_id_B":"eda1wh6","created_at_utc_A":1546664879,"created_at_utc_B":1546663698,"score_A":56,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","human_ref_B":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1181.0,"score_ratio":1.696969697}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"eda324e","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546664879,"score_A":10,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"Without physically laying hands on a patient and examining them, it is difficult, and unsafe to diagnose. I think this sub is most effective at advising for immediate, emergency action or if it can wait a day or two. Also, anecdotes worked for one case or a few. No drug is a miracle cure all. Advising to follow an anecdote could potentially worsen a case.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":256.0,"score_ratio":5.6}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda1wh6","c_root_id_B":"eda9y9c","created_at_utc_A":1546663698,"created_at_utc_B":1546671891,"score_A":33,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Point made and proven OP.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/PIajY9n","human_ref_B":"How many hours a day do you spend doing your job for free for people on the internet? Out of curiosity?   Most of the time we say go to the vet because the correct solution is to go to the vet. The posts that get this response are often inappropriate, re: \"My pet has x symptoms, diagnose my pet, and also tell me how to treat it from home. Also I mistrust vets and they're overpriced, so fuck you. Now help me, you greedy assholes taking corporate money from Big Pet Food.\" The types of posts we can give more detailed info on are detailed in our sidebar.   Posts that are likely to get a good response are: \"Is this an emergency or can I wait until tomorrow morning?\" \"I've been to the vet and was confused about some of the topics covered. Can someone clarify?\" \"My pet has been to my regular vet and is still sick and undiagnosed. What are some good next steps?\"   Most people give us ZERO diagnostic results, so when they ask for a diagnosis or prognosis we have literally nothing to go on. If your dog has a limp, it could be orthopedic, behavioral, neoplastic, etc. But give us some radiographs and a CBC plus a good history - that is something we can lend some insight on.   To quote our freaking sidebar: \"We are not here to diagnose pets (no differential guessing) or tell owners specifically how their pets should be treated, but as a second source of information.\"  Secondary. Source. Of. Information.  Not primary.  So if you haven't been to the vet and your pet is sick, we cannot help you - only your veterinarian can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8193.0,"score_ratio":1.0303030303}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda9ix6","c_root_id_B":"eda9y9c","created_at_utc_A":1546671339,"created_at_utc_B":1546671891,"score_A":15,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","human_ref_B":"How many hours a day do you spend doing your job for free for people on the internet? Out of curiosity?   Most of the time we say go to the vet because the correct solution is to go to the vet. The posts that get this response are often inappropriate, re: \"My pet has x symptoms, diagnose my pet, and also tell me how to treat it from home. Also I mistrust vets and they're overpriced, so fuck you. Now help me, you greedy assholes taking corporate money from Big Pet Food.\" The types of posts we can give more detailed info on are detailed in our sidebar.   Posts that are likely to get a good response are: \"Is this an emergency or can I wait until tomorrow morning?\" \"I've been to the vet and was confused about some of the topics covered. Can someone clarify?\" \"My pet has been to my regular vet and is still sick and undiagnosed. What are some good next steps?\"   Most people give us ZERO diagnostic results, so when they ask for a diagnosis or prognosis we have literally nothing to go on. If your dog has a limp, it could be orthopedic, behavioral, neoplastic, etc. But give us some radiographs and a CBC plus a good history - that is something we can lend some insight on.   To quote our freaking sidebar: \"We are not here to diagnose pets (no differential guessing) or tell owners specifically how their pets should be treated, but as a second source of information.\"  Secondary. Source. Of. Information.  Not primary.  So if you haven't been to the vet and your pet is sick, we cannot help you - only your veterinarian can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":552.0,"score_ratio":2.2666666667}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"eda9y9c","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546671891,"score_A":9,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"How many hours a day do you spend doing your job for free for people on the internet? Out of curiosity?   Most of the time we say go to the vet because the correct solution is to go to the vet. The posts that get this response are often inappropriate, re: \"My pet has x symptoms, diagnose my pet, and also tell me how to treat it from home. Also I mistrust vets and they're overpriced, so fuck you. Now help me, you greedy assholes taking corporate money from Big Pet Food.\" The types of posts we can give more detailed info on are detailed in our sidebar.   Posts that are likely to get a good response are: \"Is this an emergency or can I wait until tomorrow morning?\" \"I've been to the vet and was confused about some of the topics covered. Can someone clarify?\" \"My pet has been to my regular vet and is still sick and undiagnosed. What are some good next steps?\"   Most people give us ZERO diagnostic results, so when they ask for a diagnosis or prognosis we have literally nothing to go on. If your dog has a limp, it could be orthopedic, behavioral, neoplastic, etc. But give us some radiographs and a CBC plus a good history - that is something we can lend some insight on.   To quote our freaking sidebar: \"We are not here to diagnose pets (no differential guessing) or tell owners specifically how their pets should be treated, but as a second source of information.\"  Secondary. Source. Of. Information.  Not primary.  So if you haven't been to the vet and your pet is sick, we cannot help you - only your veterinarian can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6551.0,"score_ratio":3.7777777778}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda9y9c","c_root_id_B":"eda2t8x","created_at_utc_A":1546671891,"created_at_utc_B":1546664623,"score_A":34,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"How many hours a day do you spend doing your job for free for people on the internet? Out of curiosity?   Most of the time we say go to the vet because the correct solution is to go to the vet. The posts that get this response are often inappropriate, re: \"My pet has x symptoms, diagnose my pet, and also tell me how to treat it from home. Also I mistrust vets and they're overpriced, so fuck you. Now help me, you greedy assholes taking corporate money from Big Pet Food.\" The types of posts we can give more detailed info on are detailed in our sidebar.   Posts that are likely to get a good response are: \"Is this an emergency or can I wait until tomorrow morning?\" \"I've been to the vet and was confused about some of the topics covered. Can someone clarify?\" \"My pet has been to my regular vet and is still sick and undiagnosed. What are some good next steps?\"   Most people give us ZERO diagnostic results, so when they ask for a diagnosis or prognosis we have literally nothing to go on. If your dog has a limp, it could be orthopedic, behavioral, neoplastic, etc. But give us some radiographs and a CBC plus a good history - that is something we can lend some insight on.   To quote our freaking sidebar: \"We are not here to diagnose pets (no differential guessing) or tell owners specifically how their pets should be treated, but as a second source of information.\"  Secondary. Source. Of. Information.  Not primary.  So if you haven't been to the vet and your pet is sick, we cannot help you - only your veterinarian can.","human_ref_B":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7268.0,"score_ratio":3.4}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaenks","c_root_id_B":"eda9ix6","created_at_utc_A":1546678463,"created_at_utc_B":1546671339,"score_A":32,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"To a degree, we are victims of our own success: This sub is growing at a very fast pace, and accordingly, many people end up on here and think they can post like they would in any other online pet forum. However, the scope of \/r\/askvet isn't to provide a pet forum, it's to provide professional veterinary advice that is in the animals' best interest. The rules exist because lay people directing treatments, giving anecdotes based on your own pets and engaging in diagnosis guessing are never helpful and often harmful, even if people think this isn't the case.  Generally speaking, we avoid anything that conceivably increases the chances of OP being misguided into doing harm to their animal. All of the sub rules are created with this in mind. The details as to why are linked in the rules and have been discussed *ad nauseam* in this sub, so I won't go into details here.  As for \"not many vets replying\", the large majority of questions get an answer from at least one verified flaired professional, and that answer is usually amply sufficient to answer OP's question -- so most of us feel that our resources are better spent looking at questions that have not been answered yet and (if we are mods) to remove unhelpful comments by unflaired participants.  Finally, most of the questions we get in \/r\/askvet are not particularly difficult to answer and involve routine scenarios we encounter multiple times a day in our daily work even if OP has never seen something like them, so they really don't require being discussed at length once OP is informed of the proper way to proceed. Ironically, while not directly medical, this question is a decent example of such a post.","human_ref_B":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7124.0,"score_ratio":2.1333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaenks","c_root_id_B":"eda3hxg","created_at_utc_A":1546678463,"created_at_utc_B":1546665340,"score_A":32,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"To a degree, we are victims of our own success: This sub is growing at a very fast pace, and accordingly, many people end up on here and think they can post like they would in any other online pet forum. However, the scope of \/r\/askvet isn't to provide a pet forum, it's to provide professional veterinary advice that is in the animals' best interest. The rules exist because lay people directing treatments, giving anecdotes based on your own pets and engaging in diagnosis guessing are never helpful and often harmful, even if people think this isn't the case.  Generally speaking, we avoid anything that conceivably increases the chances of OP being misguided into doing harm to their animal. All of the sub rules are created with this in mind. The details as to why are linked in the rules and have been discussed *ad nauseam* in this sub, so I won't go into details here.  As for \"not many vets replying\", the large majority of questions get an answer from at least one verified flaired professional, and that answer is usually amply sufficient to answer OP's question -- so most of us feel that our resources are better spent looking at questions that have not been answered yet and (if we are mods) to remove unhelpful comments by unflaired participants.  Finally, most of the questions we get in \/r\/askvet are not particularly difficult to answer and involve routine scenarios we encounter multiple times a day in our daily work even if OP has never seen something like them, so they really don't require being discussed at length once OP is informed of the proper way to proceed. Ironically, while not directly medical, this question is a decent example of such a post.","human_ref_B":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13123.0,"score_ratio":3.5555555556}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaenks","c_root_id_B":"eda2t8x","created_at_utc_A":1546678463,"created_at_utc_B":1546664623,"score_A":32,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"To a degree, we are victims of our own success: This sub is growing at a very fast pace, and accordingly, many people end up on here and think they can post like they would in any other online pet forum. However, the scope of \/r\/askvet isn't to provide a pet forum, it's to provide professional veterinary advice that is in the animals' best interest. The rules exist because lay people directing treatments, giving anecdotes based on your own pets and engaging in diagnosis guessing are never helpful and often harmful, even if people think this isn't the case.  Generally speaking, we avoid anything that conceivably increases the chances of OP being misguided into doing harm to their animal. All of the sub rules are created with this in mind. The details as to why are linked in the rules and have been discussed *ad nauseam* in this sub, so I won't go into details here.  As for \"not many vets replying\", the large majority of questions get an answer from at least one verified flaired professional, and that answer is usually amply sufficient to answer OP's question -- so most of us feel that our resources are better spent looking at questions that have not been answered yet and (if we are mods) to remove unhelpful comments by unflaired participants.  Finally, most of the questions we get in \/r\/askvet are not particularly difficult to answer and involve routine scenarios we encounter multiple times a day in our daily work even if OP has never seen something like them, so they really don't require being discussed at length once OP is informed of the proper way to proceed. Ironically, while not directly medical, this question is a decent example of such a post.","human_ref_B":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13840.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda9ix6","c_root_id_B":"edaha6i","created_at_utc_A":1546671339,"created_at_utc_B":1546682683,"score_A":15,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","human_ref_B":"I'm a veterinary nurse, even when speaking to clients over the phone we will not offer ranom diagnosis, for something like 'my dog has a slight limp' jt may be safe to advise them keep an eye on him\/her and get in touch if it doesnt resolve.   That being said I've seen way too many animals that have been in a terrible state because they were diagnosed based on a conversation with a random friend of the owner, or simply because the owner hasn't realised how serious the situation is. A westie that was 'coughing and breathing a bit funny' came in with blue gums\/tongue and gasping for air. Then theres the consitipated dog that had prolapsed because of a tumour and the owner didnt notice. Not to mention the little maltese\/shih tzu with 'irritated eyes' both eyes were actually proptosed and because the dog was fluffy so again the owner hadn't realised both eyeballs were out of their sockets.  I'm not writing this as a 'owners dont pay attention' rant, we have so many awesome owners who are dedicated to doing the best they can for their fur kids. But its important to realise that a description of symptoms on the internet is not an accurate or legal way to get a diagnosis.   As others have said there are some instances where its possible for someone to get advice on whether something needs to be seen quickly or if it can wait until Monday, or just general non specific advice. I've had conversations on here ranging from people with a young puppy to someone wanting to get a better understanding of how to make arrangements to have their beloved pet to sleep, and yes I have also commented on posts saying please take your pet to a vet, because at the end of the day if someone called my workplace and described those symptoms I would also advise them to bring the pet in asap. In those situations it would negligent to spend a hour on the internet talking to someone on the other side of the world, because maybe their pet it fine but maybe its organs might be about to shut down.  I dont comment on here a lot but if I can provide useful information that fits the rules of the sub I will. \ud83d\udc36\ud83d\udc31\ud83d\udc34","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11344.0,"score_ratio":1.9333333333}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaha6i","c_root_id_B":"eda3hxg","created_at_utc_A":1546682683,"created_at_utc_B":1546665340,"score_A":29,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I'm a veterinary nurse, even when speaking to clients over the phone we will not offer ranom diagnosis, for something like 'my dog has a slight limp' jt may be safe to advise them keep an eye on him\/her and get in touch if it doesnt resolve.   That being said I've seen way too many animals that have been in a terrible state because they were diagnosed based on a conversation with a random friend of the owner, or simply because the owner hasn't realised how serious the situation is. A westie that was 'coughing and breathing a bit funny' came in with blue gums\/tongue and gasping for air. Then theres the consitipated dog that had prolapsed because of a tumour and the owner didnt notice. Not to mention the little maltese\/shih tzu with 'irritated eyes' both eyes were actually proptosed and because the dog was fluffy so again the owner hadn't realised both eyeballs were out of their sockets.  I'm not writing this as a 'owners dont pay attention' rant, we have so many awesome owners who are dedicated to doing the best they can for their fur kids. But its important to realise that a description of symptoms on the internet is not an accurate or legal way to get a diagnosis.   As others have said there are some instances where its possible for someone to get advice on whether something needs to be seen quickly or if it can wait until Monday, or just general non specific advice. I've had conversations on here ranging from people with a young puppy to someone wanting to get a better understanding of how to make arrangements to have their beloved pet to sleep, and yes I have also commented on posts saying please take your pet to a vet, because at the end of the day if someone called my workplace and described those symptoms I would also advise them to bring the pet in asap. In those situations it would negligent to spend a hour on the internet talking to someone on the other side of the world, because maybe their pet it fine but maybe its organs might be about to shut down.  I dont comment on here a lot but if I can provide useful information that fits the rules of the sub I will. \ud83d\udc36\ud83d\udc31\ud83d\udc34","human_ref_B":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17343.0,"score_ratio":3.2222222222}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaha6i","c_root_id_B":"eda2t8x","created_at_utc_A":1546682683,"created_at_utc_B":1546664623,"score_A":29,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I'm a veterinary nurse, even when speaking to clients over the phone we will not offer ranom diagnosis, for something like 'my dog has a slight limp' jt may be safe to advise them keep an eye on him\/her and get in touch if it doesnt resolve.   That being said I've seen way too many animals that have been in a terrible state because they were diagnosed based on a conversation with a random friend of the owner, or simply because the owner hasn't realised how serious the situation is. A westie that was 'coughing and breathing a bit funny' came in with blue gums\/tongue and gasping for air. Then theres the consitipated dog that had prolapsed because of a tumour and the owner didnt notice. Not to mention the little maltese\/shih tzu with 'irritated eyes' both eyes were actually proptosed and because the dog was fluffy so again the owner hadn't realised both eyeballs were out of their sockets.  I'm not writing this as a 'owners dont pay attention' rant, we have so many awesome owners who are dedicated to doing the best they can for their fur kids. But its important to realise that a description of symptoms on the internet is not an accurate or legal way to get a diagnosis.   As others have said there are some instances where its possible for someone to get advice on whether something needs to be seen quickly or if it can wait until Monday, or just general non specific advice. I've had conversations on here ranging from people with a young puppy to someone wanting to get a better understanding of how to make arrangements to have their beloved pet to sleep, and yes I have also commented on posts saying please take your pet to a vet, because at the end of the day if someone called my workplace and described those symptoms I would also advise them to bring the pet in asap. In those situations it would negligent to spend a hour on the internet talking to someone on the other side of the world, because maybe their pet it fine but maybe its organs might be about to shut down.  I dont comment on here a lot but if I can provide useful information that fits the rules of the sub I will. \ud83d\udc36\ud83d\udc31\ud83d\udc34","human_ref_B":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18060.0,"score_ratio":2.9}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda3hxg","c_root_id_B":"eda9ix6","created_at_utc_A":1546665340,"created_at_utc_B":1546671339,"score_A":9,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","human_ref_B":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5999.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda9ix6","c_root_id_B":"eda2t8x","created_at_utc_A":1546671339,"created_at_utc_B":1546664623,"score_A":15,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Tech here.   1. We do try to respond, when we can. Sometimes the questions are honestly so ridiculous that it makes me incredibly angry\/emotional reading them and it can be  the emotional straw to break my camels back after an already emotionally draining day.   2. We are an ethical bunch and honest to God for most things, you just gotta take the damn dog to the vet. Sorry! It\u2019s just how medicine works. We are literally trained that way\u2014do not make suggestions that venture into territory you can\u2019t mentally and physically discern for yourself with your own senses.  3. Above all, if we give inappropriate advice, that animal\u2019s well-being is on our conscience. We are just those kinds of people, generally\u2014we bear things upon our own fault.  Giving a stranger undue but well meaning medical advice is still wrong, and unacceptable if it causes harm.   This sub certainly tries to rectify these things by providing a somewhat metered venue for owners to ask professionals questions, and I definitely find it weird that there aren\u2019t mods that are professionals like in other feeds.   It would be cool to see vet schools allow interns to log hours by answering questions online in this manner.","human_ref_B":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6716.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"edaq14h","c_root_id_B":"eda3hxg","created_at_utc_A":1546694736,"created_at_utc_B":1546665340,"score_A":11,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Honestly, I find this sub quite helpful abd fascinating, especially when it comes to general care\/health maintanence\/behavioral advice\/etc.   Even vets on here cant respond with incredibly specific advice- if you wanted that, you should go to your own vet IRL.","human_ref_B":"Even when vets do respond, it is only to tell them to go to the vet.  I get ***why*** those rules are in place, but it still sucks that the sub is basically useless in help. It especially sucks when he hear stories on here about people that can't get to a vet and are just trying to figure out how to help their pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29396.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"acqpcz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What\u2019s the point of this sub when very few Vets\/Techs respond? I feel like there should be an auto mod telling everyone to go see the vet. I don\u2019t mean to seem brash but that\u2019s what the majority of the comments are. Anecdotals could solve some of these problems but the get instantly deleted. I get that this sub is called AskVet but the majority of these post have no vets\/techs responding to them. A lot of these suggestions could possibly save people a significant amount of money (it runs me 100+ dollars to be seen in my area).   I think that the rules should open up a bit. I doubt vets\/techs want to spend all day at work then continue when they get home, why can\u2019t we use similar experiences to help someone out?","c_root_id_A":"eda2t8x","c_root_id_B":"edaq14h","created_at_utc_A":1546664623,"created_at_utc_B":1546694736,"score_A":10,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Lmao. I always wondered what the point of this sub was. Way too many rules. All you can say is \u201cgo to the vet.\u201d Way more is allowed at r\/askdocs and similar subs when dealing with HUMANS.","human_ref_B":"Honestly, I find this sub quite helpful abd fascinating, especially when it comes to general care\/health maintanence\/behavioral advice\/etc.   Even vets on here cant respond with incredibly specific advice- if you wanted that, you should go to your own vet IRL.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":30113.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5g05fd","c_root_id_B":"g5g93pm","created_at_utc_A":1600233401,"created_at_utc_B":1600241496,"score_A":40,"score_B":122,"human_ref_A":"You could always call a vet or shelter for advice? I\u2019m sure they have encountered concerned neighbours before and my be able to provide advice suited to your location","human_ref_B":"Not a Vet, but Manage an Animal Shelter.   First, contact your local animal control and ask them what your communities leash laws\/free roaming cat laws are.   For example, in my city, much like dogs, cats are required to stay on their owners property. If the cat leaves the owners property they are considered \u201cat large\u201d and can be picked up as a stray and taken to the local city shelter.   Now if you went this route and brought the cat to the city shelter, the owners would have to go down to the shelter and there is the a good chance they would be required to pay a reclaim fee. Which honestly, for a cat they won\u2019t even take to the Vet, May not be something they would be willing to do. So, if the owners don\u2019t claim the cat after a designated hold period it would go up for adoption and you could legally adopt it.  Unfortunately in most states owners are not required to provide Veterinary care outside of a Rabies Vaccination. So while this is extremely irresponsible pet ownership, the cat would likely not be taken away from the owners for this.   As far as taking the cat into the Vet for care, that\u2019s more of a legal question. While there are Good Samaritan laws in some states, they generally only cover emergency situations that would be considered life or death. Otherwise you would need the owners consent to provide treatment.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8095.0,"score_ratio":3.05}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5g93pm","c_root_id_B":"g5g4j0v","created_at_utc_A":1600241496,"created_at_utc_B":1600237068,"score_A":122,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Not a Vet, but Manage an Animal Shelter.   First, contact your local animal control and ask them what your communities leash laws\/free roaming cat laws are.   For example, in my city, much like dogs, cats are required to stay on their owners property. If the cat leaves the owners property they are considered \u201cat large\u201d and can be picked up as a stray and taken to the local city shelter.   Now if you went this route and brought the cat to the city shelter, the owners would have to go down to the shelter and there is the a good chance they would be required to pay a reclaim fee. Which honestly, for a cat they won\u2019t even take to the Vet, May not be something they would be willing to do. So, if the owners don\u2019t claim the cat after a designated hold period it would go up for adoption and you could legally adopt it.  Unfortunately in most states owners are not required to provide Veterinary care outside of a Rabies Vaccination. So while this is extremely irresponsible pet ownership, the cat would likely not be taken away from the owners for this.   As far as taking the cat into the Vet for care, that\u2019s more of a legal question. While there are Good Samaritan laws in some states, they generally only cover emergency situations that would be considered life or death. Otherwise you would need the owners consent to provide treatment.","human_ref_B":"Where are you located?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4428.0,"score_ratio":8.1333333333}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5gktlf","c_root_id_B":"g5gaiz0","created_at_utc_A":1600254594,"created_at_utc_B":1600243040,"score_A":57,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"The vet won\u2019t scan the chip if it\u2019s not brought up\/asked for. The vet will never ask if the animal is actually yours, it will be assumed it is. We treat the owner as the person who walks through the door with the animal. You can get it care just know of course all the financial aspect would fall on you. If you choose to report the actual owner for neglect that\u2019s up to you. If you just want to get it care just call and make an appt.","human_ref_B":"Call your local SPCA and explain the situation. They may rescue the cat so she can receive proper care or provide you with information on how to proceed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11554.0,"score_ratio":1.2391304348}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5gktlf","c_root_id_B":"g5g05fd","created_at_utc_A":1600254594,"created_at_utc_B":1600233401,"score_A":57,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"The vet won\u2019t scan the chip if it\u2019s not brought up\/asked for. The vet will never ask if the animal is actually yours, it will be assumed it is. We treat the owner as the person who walks through the door with the animal. You can get it care just know of course all the financial aspect would fall on you. If you choose to report the actual owner for neglect that\u2019s up to you. If you just want to get it care just call and make an appt.","human_ref_B":"You could always call a vet or shelter for advice? I\u2019m sure they have encountered concerned neighbours before and my be able to provide advice suited to your location","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21193.0,"score_ratio":1.425}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5gktlf","c_root_id_B":"g5giqtw","created_at_utc_A":1600254594,"created_at_utc_B":1600252433,"score_A":57,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"The vet won\u2019t scan the chip if it\u2019s not brought up\/asked for. The vet will never ask if the animal is actually yours, it will be assumed it is. We treat the owner as the person who walks through the door with the animal. You can get it care just know of course all the financial aspect would fall on you. If you choose to report the actual owner for neglect that\u2019s up to you. If you just want to get it care just call and make an appt.","human_ref_B":"Definitely something you should report. It\u2019s most likely considered neglect","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2161.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5g4j0v","c_root_id_B":"g5gktlf","created_at_utc_A":1600237068,"created_at_utc_B":1600254594,"score_A":15,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Where are you located?","human_ref_B":"The vet won\u2019t scan the chip if it\u2019s not brought up\/asked for. The vet will never ask if the animal is actually yours, it will be assumed it is. We treat the owner as the person who walks through the door with the animal. You can get it care just know of course all the financial aspect would fall on you. If you choose to report the actual owner for neglect that\u2019s up to you. If you just want to get it care just call and make an appt.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17526.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5g05fd","c_root_id_B":"g5gaiz0","created_at_utc_A":1600233401,"created_at_utc_B":1600243040,"score_A":40,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"You could always call a vet or shelter for advice? I\u2019m sure they have encountered concerned neighbours before and my be able to provide advice suited to your location","human_ref_B":"Call your local SPCA and explain the situation. They may rescue the cat so she can receive proper care or provide you with information on how to proceed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9639.0,"score_ratio":1.15}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5gaiz0","c_root_id_B":"g5g4j0v","created_at_utc_A":1600243040,"created_at_utc_B":1600237068,"score_A":46,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Call your local SPCA and explain the situation. They may rescue the cat so she can receive proper care or provide you with information on how to proceed.","human_ref_B":"Where are you located?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5972.0,"score_ratio":3.0666666667}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5h1puw","c_root_id_B":"g5hf5rd","created_at_utc_A":1600266197,"created_at_utc_B":1600272952,"score_A":21,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of whether it\u2019s the \u201ccorrect\u201d thing. IMO you should take her to the vet and encourage her to take refuge in your house whenever she wants. You\u2019re not stealing her, you\u2019re letting her visit and being a good host when she\u2019s there.","human_ref_B":"This situation happened to us and it was really awkward. Slowly, over time, we ended up feeding the cat and setting up a cold weather shelter for it. Also took it to the vet several times on our dime. Eventually found out who the owner was and met her.    The cat stayed outside until he became ill.  Then he wanted to come on (winter) and we let him despite our house cats objection. The owner did not respond to any attempt to reach her so we took him to her vet where we learned he had cancer. We were with him in the end. I\u2019ll always remember the kindness of his vet and ours and will never think of his owner as a decent human being.   So wishing you well in this situation. The cat picked you because cats just know.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6755.0,"score_ratio":1.2380952381}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5hf5rd","c_root_id_B":"g5giqtw","created_at_utc_A":1600272952,"created_at_utc_B":1600252433,"score_A":26,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"This situation happened to us and it was really awkward. Slowly, over time, we ended up feeding the cat and setting up a cold weather shelter for it. Also took it to the vet several times on our dime. Eventually found out who the owner was and met her.    The cat stayed outside until he became ill.  Then he wanted to come on (winter) and we let him despite our house cats objection. The owner did not respond to any attempt to reach her so we took him to her vet where we learned he had cancer. We were with him in the end. I\u2019ll always remember the kindness of his vet and ours and will never think of his owner as a decent human being.   So wishing you well in this situation. The cat picked you because cats just know.","human_ref_B":"Definitely something you should report. It\u2019s most likely considered neglect","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20519.0,"score_ratio":1.7333333333}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5hf5rd","c_root_id_B":"g5g4j0v","created_at_utc_A":1600272952,"created_at_utc_B":1600237068,"score_A":26,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"This situation happened to us and it was really awkward. Slowly, over time, we ended up feeding the cat and setting up a cold weather shelter for it. Also took it to the vet several times on our dime. Eventually found out who the owner was and met her.    The cat stayed outside until he became ill.  Then he wanted to come on (winter) and we let him despite our house cats objection. The owner did not respond to any attempt to reach her so we took him to her vet where we learned he had cancer. We were with him in the end. I\u2019ll always remember the kindness of his vet and ours and will never think of his owner as a decent human being.   So wishing you well in this situation. The cat picked you because cats just know.","human_ref_B":"Where are you located?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35884.0,"score_ratio":1.7333333333}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5hf5rd","c_root_id_B":"g5gt2vq","created_at_utc_A":1600272952,"created_at_utc_B":1600261089,"score_A":26,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"This situation happened to us and it was really awkward. Slowly, over time, we ended up feeding the cat and setting up a cold weather shelter for it. Also took it to the vet several times on our dime. Eventually found out who the owner was and met her.    The cat stayed outside until he became ill.  Then he wanted to come on (winter) and we let him despite our house cats objection. The owner did not respond to any attempt to reach her so we took him to her vet where we learned he had cancer. We were with him in the end. I\u2019ll always remember the kindness of his vet and ours and will never think of his owner as a decent human being.   So wishing you well in this situation. The cat picked you because cats just know.","human_ref_B":"Those owners do not deserve her. If you feel you can, I would do what is right for her first, then decide the rest later. She is suffering and luckily knows someone that cares- thank you! As stated before though, the financials would be on you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11863.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5h1puw","c_root_id_B":"g5giqtw","created_at_utc_A":1600266197,"created_at_utc_B":1600252433,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of whether it\u2019s the \u201ccorrect\u201d thing. IMO you should take her to the vet and encourage her to take refuge in your house whenever she wants. You\u2019re not stealing her, you\u2019re letting her visit and being a good host when she\u2019s there.","human_ref_B":"Definitely something you should report. It\u2019s most likely considered neglect","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13764.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5h1puw","c_root_id_B":"g5g4j0v","created_at_utc_A":1600266197,"created_at_utc_B":1600237068,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of whether it\u2019s the \u201ccorrect\u201d thing. IMO you should take her to the vet and encourage her to take refuge in your house whenever she wants. You\u2019re not stealing her, you\u2019re letting her visit and being a good host when she\u2019s there.","human_ref_B":"Where are you located?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29129.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5h1puw","c_root_id_B":"g5gt2vq","created_at_utc_A":1600266197,"created_at_utc_B":1600261089,"score_A":21,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of whether it\u2019s the \u201ccorrect\u201d thing. IMO you should take her to the vet and encourage her to take refuge in your house whenever she wants. You\u2019re not stealing her, you\u2019re letting her visit and being a good host when she\u2019s there.","human_ref_B":"Those owners do not deserve her. If you feel you can, I would do what is right for her first, then decide the rest later. She is suffering and luckily knows someone that cares- thank you! As stated before though, the financials would be on you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5108.0,"score_ratio":1.3125}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5giqtw","c_root_id_B":"g5gt2vq","created_at_utc_A":1600252433,"created_at_utc_B":1600261089,"score_A":15,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Definitely something you should report. It\u2019s most likely considered neglect","human_ref_B":"Those owners do not deserve her. If you feel you can, I would do what is right for her first, then decide the rest later. She is suffering and luckily knows someone that cares- thank you! As stated before though, the financials would be on you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8656.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5gt2vq","c_root_id_B":"g5g4j0v","created_at_utc_A":1600261089,"created_at_utc_B":1600237068,"score_A":16,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Those owners do not deserve her. If you feel you can, I would do what is right for her first, then decide the rest later. She is suffering and luckily knows someone that cares- thank you! As stated before though, the financials would be on you.","human_ref_B":"Where are you located?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24021.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5iles5","c_root_id_B":"g5iucr2","created_at_utc_A":1600292213,"created_at_utc_B":1600296293,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Listen , if they don't care about her , take it to a vet . I am not sure what can you do , like can you report them for not taking care of her so she can go to a healthy family .","human_ref_B":"I would go the humane society route. They will provide medical care, and as the person who brought her in as a stray, you would likely be allowed to adopt her. Then, you have actual paperwork stating that the cat is yours. If they are not willing to take the cat to the vet when she is having asthma attacks, I doubt she is utd on shots, so they would have no prof that the cat was ever theirs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4080.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5iizqy","c_root_id_B":"g5iles5","created_at_utc_A":1600291203,"created_at_utc_B":1600292213,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Not pursuing medical care for an animal in need of medical care is neglect, and most places have laws against that. You should call your local animal authorities and see what the laws are in your area. They would be able to help you legally report the neglect that is happening; if they see fit, they will take the animal and provide the medical care it needs, and potentially lay charges against the people responsible for neglecting their pet.","human_ref_B":"Listen , if they don't care about her , take it to a vet . I am not sure what can you do , like can you report them for not taking care of her so she can go to a healthy family .","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1010.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5iiwl5","c_root_id_B":"g5iucr2","created_at_utc_A":1600291168,"created_at_utc_B":1600296293,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I say bring the cat to the vet. I brought my neighbor\u2019s dog to the vet and I didn\u2019t actually know it was my neighbor\u2019s dog at the time so I told the vet it was a stray and she documented a huge list of medical problems. Law enforcement was actually grateful I had the dog checked out because it gave them a stronger case for animal cruelty. However, the dog was returned to his owners and they were only fined a small amount for not having the dog up to date on vaccines and such. So if I were to do it again, I would have just kept the dog and given him the care he needed. Maybe not the \u201clegal\u201d approach, but it is the ethical approach in my opinion.  Edit: the other option is bringing the cat to the shelter where she will get medical treatment and hope the owners don\u2019t want to pay the impound fee.","human_ref_B":"I would go the humane society route. They will provide medical care, and as the person who brought her in as a stray, you would likely be allowed to adopt her. Then, you have actual paperwork stating that the cat is yours. If they are not willing to take the cat to the vet when she is having asthma attacks, I doubt she is utd on shots, so they would have no prof that the cat was ever theirs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5125.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"itpbnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I take my neighbours cat to the vet? A few weeks ago a random cat showed up in my backyard. She was extremely shy and apprehensive at first. We let her come and go whenever she likes, but over the past week she's been sleeping on our front porch or by the balcony door, so we'd let her sleep in our house overnight.  After a few days I noticed that she had begun to lose weight so I ended up feeding her (grain free, hypoallergenic, wet cat food). Turns out the owners left for the week and just left the cat outside without food and water and in the awful air quality.  She's highly asthmatic, with strong asthma attacks twice a day and 2-3 times at night (I hepa filter my entire home and have no irritants). She doesn't have a collar but is microchipped. I got in touch with her owners but they don't care about getting her any medical care.   In fact, the owner got mad at me for feeding her (?) and told me to not let the cat into my house (kick the cat out if it walked in). Meanwhile, the cat was having a serious asthma attack right in front of her and and the owner didn't even flinch. When they were leaving my home, she had to grab the cat and pick it up because it wouldn't follow them.   I'm at a crossroad. The cat keeps coming back to my house and is 'claiming' it as her place, mostly just napping here. I leave my door open and even lead the cat outside but she keeps walking in and planting herself here. I want to help the cat, would I be able to bring her to a vet even if i'm not her owner?","c_root_id_A":"g5iizqy","c_root_id_B":"g5iucr2","created_at_utc_A":1600291203,"created_at_utc_B":1600296293,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Not pursuing medical care for an animal in need of medical care is neglect, and most places have laws against that. You should call your local animal authorities and see what the laws are in your area. They would be able to help you legally report the neglect that is happening; if they see fit, they will take the animal and provide the medical care it needs, and potentially lay charges against the people responsible for neglecting their pet.","human_ref_B":"I would go the humane society route. They will provide medical care, and as the person who brought her in as a stray, you would likely be allowed to adopt her. Then, you have actual paperwork stating that the cat is yours. If they are not willing to take the cat to the vet when she is having asthma attacks, I doubt she is utd on shots, so they would have no prof that the cat was ever theirs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5090.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"kgaq8m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"When you say, \u201ccall your vet\u201d, what exactly do you mean? I know it sounds stupid but I have 3 cats in my house. 1 that is having a bunch of recent health problems, 1 that is mischievous, and 1 that is very rude. So I\u2019m always on here posting and reading. As we all know, \u201ccall your vet\u201d is often the go to answer for a lot of problems. I totally understand this but I sometimes don\u2019t know *how* I should be calling them. Obviously the receptionist answers, how much do I tell them? Do I start with a brief or detailed history, do I dive in to the current problem? Current problem then history? What are the main relevant points that need to be made to give efficient information while also not wasting their time? Questions also applies to email.","c_root_id_A":"ggdv6ci","c_root_id_B":"ggekbhc","created_at_utc_A":1608401941,"created_at_utc_B":1608414249,"score_A":14,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I always call and give the receptionist a brief overview and ask to speak to a tech or have a tech or vet call you back at their convenience.  They\u2019ll almost always ask you to bring them in since they can only speculate without a physical exam, so for times sake you are probably best to just make an appointment.","human_ref_B":"As a former receptionist, let me add: Please do not expect to get the doctor himself on the phone right away. Be prepared to leave a message and have it returned later in the day. Sometimes the receptionist will relay the doctor's response back to you, so if it is a multi-part question, please have all those parts in the original message. (Again, e-mails can take care of this more easily.) I would rather you tell me \"too much\" (I can edit for the doctor) than too little and have to ping back and forth multiple times.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12308.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"kgaq8m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"When you say, \u201ccall your vet\u201d, what exactly do you mean? I know it sounds stupid but I have 3 cats in my house. 1 that is having a bunch of recent health problems, 1 that is mischievous, and 1 that is very rude. So I\u2019m always on here posting and reading. As we all know, \u201ccall your vet\u201d is often the go to answer for a lot of problems. I totally understand this but I sometimes don\u2019t know *how* I should be calling them. Obviously the receptionist answers, how much do I tell them? Do I start with a brief or detailed history, do I dive in to the current problem? Current problem then history? What are the main relevant points that need to be made to give efficient information while also not wasting their time? Questions also applies to email.","c_root_id_A":"ggekbhc","c_root_id_B":"ggdw12y","created_at_utc_A":1608414249,"created_at_utc_B":1608402384,"score_A":20,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"As a former receptionist, let me add: Please do not expect to get the doctor himself on the phone right away. Be prepared to leave a message and have it returned later in the day. Sometimes the receptionist will relay the doctor's response back to you, so if it is a multi-part question, please have all those parts in the original message. (Again, e-mails can take care of this more easily.) I would rather you tell me \"too much\" (I can edit for the doctor) than too little and have to ping back and forth multiple times.","human_ref_B":"We mean to speak to your vet, ultimately with the goal of determining whether it's warranted to have your animal seen in person.  It's so much easier and also much faster to cover the questions determining whether you should make an appointment over the phone than over an online back-and-forth.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11865.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"kgaq8m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"When you say, \u201ccall your vet\u201d, what exactly do you mean? I know it sounds stupid but I have 3 cats in my house. 1 that is having a bunch of recent health problems, 1 that is mischievous, and 1 that is very rude. So I\u2019m always on here posting and reading. As we all know, \u201ccall your vet\u201d is often the go to answer for a lot of problems. I totally understand this but I sometimes don\u2019t know *how* I should be calling them. Obviously the receptionist answers, how much do I tell them? Do I start with a brief or detailed history, do I dive in to the current problem? Current problem then history? What are the main relevant points that need to be made to give efficient information while also not wasting their time? Questions also applies to email.","c_root_id_A":"ggecp5p","c_root_id_B":"ggekbhc","created_at_utc_A":1608411168,"created_at_utc_B":1608414249,"score_A":2,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I always call and ask to speak to the vet in case of a medical question. Maybe make a list of the main points beforehand so you can ask very briefly whilst not forgetting an important point. I would say 1-3 short sentences depending on severity. If the vet wants to know more, he\u2019ll ask.","human_ref_B":"As a former receptionist, let me add: Please do not expect to get the doctor himself on the phone right away. Be prepared to leave a message and have it returned later in the day. Sometimes the receptionist will relay the doctor's response back to you, so if it is a multi-part question, please have all those parts in the original message. (Again, e-mails can take care of this more easily.) I would rather you tell me \"too much\" (I can edit for the doctor) than too little and have to ping back and forth multiple times.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3081.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"h7o0vl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat died under anesthesia during a dental cleaning yesterday. Is there anything that could have been done to prevent it? Species: Cat Age: 10 years Sex\/Neuter status: Neutered Male Breed: Domestic Body weight: 13 lbs History: Last deep dental cleaning was approximately one year ago Clinical signs: Uncomfortable chewing, vet noticed buildup on teeth Duration: Need for dental was identified at May checkup Your general location: California Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.  My cat suddenly died under anesthesia during his dental cleaning yesterday. The vet did pre-cleaning bloodwork and said that he did not notice any abnormalities during the physical exam before he went under. He was a high anxiety cat at the vet, so we gave him 100 mg of gabapentin before going in that morning and he ended up drooling some of it out his mouth.  I\u2019m scared now for his sister and when she\u2019ll have to go under for her next cleaning. Is there anything that makes a cat more susceptible to dying under anesthesia? They did his cleaning later in the afternoon, so I worry that the stress of sitting there all day made things worse for him.","c_root_id_A":"fund4xd","c_root_id_B":"fumxkjk","created_at_utc_A":1592002461,"created_at_utc_B":1591994223,"score_A":61,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":">we gave him 100 mg of gabapentin  Was that a vet prescription and did you let the vet know?","human_ref_B":"It's well recorded in the medical literature that risk of anesthesia related complications\/deaths go up for pets aged 10 & up. It's not a large percentage, but some vets don't do dentals for older pets, while some are more comfortable with the risks. It's a personal decision that each client should make.   There are risks to avoiding dentals, too, like periodontal disease, tooth abscesses, heart disease, etc. Discuss the risks with your vet and ask for tips to help control dental tartar at home. Pets who have regularly brushed teeth tend to need fewer cleanings.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8238.0,"score_ratio":1.1090909091}
{"post_id":"gsgih1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Vet snuck expensive meds into bag and charged me I had to take my dog to the vet earlier this week and due to COVID we didn't go inside. The vet called us on the phone to discuss the treatment and exam and everything went fine. She recommended a couple tests and said she was sending me home with one medication. We came to pick up the dog and a tech handed me a bag with the meds in it and took my card, I didn't see a receipt due to social distancing. The cost seemed pretty high but I really didn't want to interact with someone face to face longer than necessary.  When I got home I saw they had snuck a box of a supplement in the bag with the med we discussed and when I checked the receipt it was an extra $100 for it, which almost doubled the total bill. I called the office back and said I assume there was a mix up and I got some else's meds and was billed for them and wanted to bring them back. They didn't mention how the supplement got in there at all, told me it was good for my dog, and said they don't accept returns. I said it's not exactly a return I just didn't ask for these meds and they wound up there by accident. They said it \"probably\" wasn't a mistake, restated they don't accept returns, blew me off and hung up.  After talking to my husband I discovered that when my he brought my dog in for a different issue last year they snuck in the exact same supplement without asking him and billed him for it too. So this is twice now that they've pulled this. Obviously there's nothing I can do about it from last year, but is there anything I can do about it this time? It's incredibly shady and obviously I won't go back to this vet, but do you have any advice for getting back the money?","c_root_id_A":"fs5qogx","c_root_id_B":"fs61eev","created_at_utc_A":1590720066,"created_at_utc_B":1590726822,"score_A":59,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"It's hard to say without 1) knowing your dogs diagnosis 2) knowing the medication\/supplements (You dont have to give the information) You can absolutely call and ask the manager about it. But you did also agree to the total without seeing the bill...  Possible they had a note about the supplement being accepted last year, and figured you needed a refill as well.","human_ref_B":"There has clearly been some sort of misunderstanding. Call again, talk to a manager and\/or the vet, try to explain it clearly. If they absolutely will not work with you, I'd dispute the charges.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6756.0,"score_ratio":1.4745762712}
{"post_id":"mycamv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat's in the ER right now My 16 year old cat, Jinx Poof, who despite her advanced age acts very much like a kitten, is currently in the ER. She has a history of medical issues, including only one functional kidney, a ureter tube connecting her good kidney to her bladder, a heart murmur,  and she recently had a sarcoma removed from her abdomen, and graduated from chemotherapy a couple weeks ago.   In spite of all of this, she has never missed a beat. She has never let it slow her down for very long, ever. She runs and plays, even when we want her to rest. But right now, she's in the ER. She's very suddenly dropped off, become anemic, and needed a blood transfusion. If it were a slow and steady decline, I could have prepared myself, and made an end of life plan, but this came on so fast. It's as though her red blood cells are just disappearing. They can't locate a bleed anywhere. Results from various panels and diagnostics have not returned yet.  I want her to be ok. I don't want her to suffer. I don't want her to die alone in the ER away from her people. I am preparing myself for the worst, and hoping for the best. All positive thoughts and vibes for Jinx Poof are very welcome right now.","c_root_id_A":"gvuc9y4","c_root_id_B":"gvudtay","created_at_utc_A":1619374679,"created_at_utc_B":1619375408,"score_A":29,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Saying a prayer for jinx poof \ud83d\udc9a","human_ref_B":"Kitty prayers and hugs going out for little Jinx Poof and for you. :)  Stay strong.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":729.0,"score_ratio":1.7586206897}
{"post_id":"mycamv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat's in the ER right now My 16 year old cat, Jinx Poof, who despite her advanced age acts very much like a kitten, is currently in the ER. She has a history of medical issues, including only one functional kidney, a ureter tube connecting her good kidney to her bladder, a heart murmur,  and she recently had a sarcoma removed from her abdomen, and graduated from chemotherapy a couple weeks ago.   In spite of all of this, she has never missed a beat. She has never let it slow her down for very long, ever. She runs and plays, even when we want her to rest. But right now, she's in the ER. She's very suddenly dropped off, become anemic, and needed a blood transfusion. If it were a slow and steady decline, I could have prepared myself, and made an end of life plan, but this came on so fast. It's as though her red blood cells are just disappearing. They can't locate a bleed anywhere. Results from various panels and diagnostics have not returned yet.  I want her to be ok. I don't want her to suffer. I don't want her to die alone in the ER away from her people. I am preparing myself for the worst, and hoping for the best. All positive thoughts and vibes for Jinx Poof are very welcome right now.","c_root_id_A":"gvv5uil","c_root_id_B":"gvva235","created_at_utc_A":1619388866,"created_at_utc_B":1619391015,"score_A":6,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"I hope everything goes well\ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\ude4f","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t know if you\u2019re up for this, but we always encourage folks to be in waiting area\/nearby so if there a chance \u014d can just talk to their lovies, they can. Sad truth that often there\u2019s a point where a body can\u2019t fight anymore & if theres chance of saying goodbyes to your loved one, that\u2019s an incredibly tough, but so very kind loving thing. If you can be strong for yourself & them, call your vet & tell them you\u2019d like to be nearby. I\u2019ve had \u014d sit outside in their cars, others who wait in the darkened after hours waiting room. We\u2019ve often, in clinics, ER Clinics+, shared that the darlings feel & know you\u2019re nearby so even if they leave they have that & somehow feel ease in transition. I do hope your Jinx Poof comes home.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2149.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"k3w7t3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog has dementia and is aggressive, is it possibly time to euthanise him? My dog is elderly and has developed dementia. Until now it's been symptoms of confusion and sometimes fear. Now he's starting to be aggressive at random. I have a 10 month old and live in a very small flat. I have no way to keep my baby and dog apart without confining one of them to a very small space for most of the day.   My dog is about 15, has dementia, he is on medication for arthritis pains, and expensive prescription food because he is prone to pancreatitis. With the aggression on top I don't see how he could be rehomed.   The only reason I am unsure is that he seems happy 90% of the time. But I have no way to give him a good quality of life now. I feel like if he is put to sleep, it's my fault for not providing enough though...","c_root_id_A":"ge5fliq","c_root_id_B":"ge5frtu","created_at_utc_A":1606746979,"created_at_utc_B":1606747083,"score_A":159,"score_B":500,"human_ref_A":"You have a fifteen year old dog with dementia. You've provided for that dog for a number of years prior to now. There's no cure for dementia. It's OK to provide him with a peaceful passing, even though he's happy 90% of the time, and not wait until he's miserable 60% of the time before doing so. There is nothing wrong with going out on a good day.   It's also very common for pet owners of elderly dogs to feel some relief after euthanasia; it IS a lot of work, physically and especially emotionally to take care of our older pets. You don't have to feel guilty about the fact that it might make aspects of your life easier (although please know guilt is a very common emotion in these situations); it doesn't sound like that's why you're considering this choice. It's just a side aspect.   I'm so sorry you're at this point, but please know there are many resources out there for pet owners at this stage. A personal favorite of mine lapoflove.com which has so much good information, including pages for knowing when it's time, geriatric pets, and even teleadvice.","human_ref_B":"You provided a loving home to the best of your ability for his whole life. Unpredictable aggression is just as valid a negative symptom as any other reason to let a pet pass from this world.  In a small environment with a young child, these symptoms will not go away, and in fact may worsen with time. You would be ensuring your family's best safety by creating final memories with your pet, and offer the dignity of a peaceful transition without the tarnish of an incident that can't be taken back, and wasn't intentional.  I know its difficult and feels morally grey, as his body hasn't \"failed\" yet. But the mind failing is just as much a part of the body. No one at the office will judge you.  In the end you know him best and can make the right decision for your family. But I do believe you are in the end game now and should not feel guilty. \ud83e\udec2","labels":0,"seconds_difference":104.0,"score_ratio":3.1446540881}
{"post_id":"k3w7t3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog has dementia and is aggressive, is it possibly time to euthanise him? My dog is elderly and has developed dementia. Until now it's been symptoms of confusion and sometimes fear. Now he's starting to be aggressive at random. I have a 10 month old and live in a very small flat. I have no way to keep my baby and dog apart without confining one of them to a very small space for most of the day.   My dog is about 15, has dementia, he is on medication for arthritis pains, and expensive prescription food because he is prone to pancreatitis. With the aggression on top I don't see how he could be rehomed.   The only reason I am unsure is that he seems happy 90% of the time. But I have no way to give him a good quality of life now. I feel like if he is put to sleep, it's my fault for not providing enough though...","c_root_id_A":"ge663mg","c_root_id_B":"ge62e0f","created_at_utc_A":1606760298,"created_at_utc_B":1606758523,"score_A":67,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"I look at it this way: let him go, now, on good terms, in love. Don't wait for him to no longer \"seem happy\". Don't wait till you become a stranger, or worse. You have the opportunity to send him off in relative peace. And it'll help begin your grief process.  Waiting until he becomes a burden to himself, and\/or you, won't benefit either of you.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet  I would first discuss this with the vet to rule out any treatable medical issues causing the aggression. But yes, euthanasia is a perfectly valid option.  As someone who has had to make this same decision, it is not your fault.  There are diseases that we cannot cure. A disease (or old age) that is causing aggression is not something he would want. You have had him for years, do you truly believe he would want to hurt you or your family if he wasn't being affected by this disease? In this scenario, a humane euthanasia is a blessing, not a curse. He gets to go our remembering your love, not feeling like he was abandoned in a strange place, and not feeling bad because he unintentionally harmed you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1775.0,"score_ratio":1.7631578947}
{"post_id":"jjugt4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"How to help my grieving dog? species: Dog breed: jackrussel age: 6  We lost our other dog max (her son) a few days ago to a terrible accident where he escaped and got hit by a car. She did see his body because we found him in our driveway (the driver dumped him there) and brought him inside, she went up to him as his heart stopped. She has been super depressed, barely eating, always needing to be close to us and just not really herself. I want to help her get through this, it hurts so bad to see my baby suffer like I am.","c_root_id_A":"gah5iag","c_root_id_B":"gahjuzp","created_at_utc_A":1603966601,"created_at_utc_B":1603977751,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Oh man...my heartfelt condolences to you, and your Mama Doggo. Give your Doggo however much time you feel comfortable to grieve and during this time give her extra attention, hugs, kisses, treatos, and scritches. Whatever you feel she may need. Then, if time doesn\u2019t heal all wounds maybe try to find a little Pupper for her to foster. She just might have a lot of love to give and needs a little one of her own kind to love on and help her through this tragedy. Best wishes to you and her.","human_ref_B":"Keep both dog\u2019s toys and bedding and leashes etc just as they are around your home for an adjustment period. Keep the same meal and play routines going. Provide lots of extra Pets and treats like organic boiled chicken. And gradually talk softly and directly to your dog about her and your loss and your own feelings. Share memories of your boy. Yes try it. This may help grieve the loss and get through a tough adjustment period.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11150.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"hib7px","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Update on my potentially blind, paralyzed dog So basically a week out after my dog flatlined after being fixed. He is doing so much better. He is doing all the zoomies. He still has some vision issues that seem to mess with his depth perception, but otherwise- he is normal.  Zooming!","c_root_id_A":"fwfujsa","c_root_id_B":"fwfqrhg","created_at_utc_A":1593488027,"created_at_utc_B":1593485640,"score_A":19,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Yay!! I remember your post. I'm so happy for you and him! :)","human_ref_B":"Thank you! I'm so happy your pup is doing better","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2387.0,"score_ratio":2.1111111111}
{"post_id":"hib7px","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Update on my potentially blind, paralyzed dog So basically a week out after my dog flatlined after being fixed. He is doing so much better. He is doing all the zoomies. He still has some vision issues that seem to mess with his depth perception, but otherwise- he is normal.  Zooming!","c_root_id_A":"fwfnvfh","c_root_id_B":"fwfujsa","created_at_utc_A":1593483870,"created_at_utc_B":1593488027,"score_A":6,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Yay!!!! He\u2019s so cute, too!","human_ref_B":"Yay!! I remember your post. I'm so happy for you and him! :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4157.0,"score_ratio":3.1666666667}
{"post_id":"hib7px","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Update on my potentially blind, paralyzed dog So basically a week out after my dog flatlined after being fixed. He is doing so much better. He is doing all the zoomies. He still has some vision issues that seem to mess with his depth perception, but otherwise- he is normal.  Zooming!","c_root_id_A":"fwfqrhg","c_root_id_B":"fwfnvfh","created_at_utc_A":1593485640,"created_at_utc_B":1593483870,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Thank you! I'm so happy your pup is doing better","human_ref_B":"Yay!!!! He\u2019s so cute, too!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1770.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5fpzc","c_root_id_B":"fk5ijlq","created_at_utc_A":1583879571,"created_at_utc_B":1583881212,"score_A":55,"score_B":150,"human_ref_A":"big same, i dont want to spook them into searching DrGoogle instead (bc you know what kind of nonsense they can find) but sometimes i want reach my hand through the internet to pull down their ears bad.","human_ref_B":"I am not a Vet, but my guess is:   1. They don't have any money. They did not account for this portion of being a pet owner. Some are just new pet owners and don't truly know if they need to go. This includes trying to avoid the $$$ of an emergency clinic 2. People have an appointment and are trying not to freak out, so they are looking to understand what they are up against so they can prepare 3. People were confused, and couldn't or did not ask their vet, about a diagnosis or finding and they are seeking clarification of medical labs, pictures, etc. 4. Their pet is dying and they do not want to really accept it so they ask for a 'better' opinion that keeps their pet alive longer 5. They think they know more than the Vet they did go to, and want someone in the sub to confirm it.  The last two never happen in this sub, but I think it's new people posting one off questions.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1641.0,"score_ratio":2.7272727273}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5ijlq","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583881212,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":150,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am not a Vet, but my guess is:   1. They don't have any money. They did not account for this portion of being a pet owner. Some are just new pet owners and don't truly know if they need to go. This includes trying to avoid the $$$ of an emergency clinic 2. People have an appointment and are trying not to freak out, so they are looking to understand what they are up against so they can prepare 3. People were confused, and couldn't or did not ask their vet, about a diagnosis or finding and they are seeking clarification of medical labs, pictures, etc. 4. Their pet is dying and they do not want to really accept it so they ask for a 'better' opinion that keeps their pet alive longer 5. They think they know more than the Vet they did go to, and want someone in the sub to confirm it.  The last two never happen in this sub, but I think it's new people posting one off questions.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":965.0,"score_ratio":18.75}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5fpzc","c_root_id_B":"fk5ljch","created_at_utc_A":1583879571,"created_at_utc_B":1583882982,"score_A":55,"score_B":72,"human_ref_A":"big same, i dont want to spook them into searching DrGoogle instead (bc you know what kind of nonsense they can find) but sometimes i want reach my hand through the internet to pull down their ears bad.","human_ref_B":"Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3411.0,"score_ratio":1.3090909091}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5k200","c_root_id_B":"fk5ljch","created_at_utc_A":1583882112,"created_at_utc_B":1583882982,"score_A":31,"score_B":72,"human_ref_A":"Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.","human_ref_B":"Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":870.0,"score_ratio":2.3225806452}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5ljch","c_root_id_B":"fk5jb7s","created_at_utc_A":1583882982,"created_at_utc_B":1583881671,"score_A":72,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.","human_ref_B":"If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1311.0,"score_ratio":3.2727272727}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5imku","c_root_id_B":"fk5ljch","created_at_utc_A":1583881262,"created_at_utc_B":1583882982,"score_A":14,"score_B":72,"human_ref_A":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","human_ref_B":"Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1720.0,"score_ratio":5.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5ljch","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583882982,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":72,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2735.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5jb7s","c_root_id_B":"fk5k200","created_at_utc_A":1583881671,"created_at_utc_B":1583882112,"score_A":22,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.","human_ref_B":"Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":441.0,"score_ratio":1.4090909091}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5k200","c_root_id_B":"fk5imku","created_at_utc_A":1583882112,"created_at_utc_B":1583881262,"score_A":31,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.","human_ref_B":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":850.0,"score_ratio":2.2142857143}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5k200","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583882112,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":31,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1865.0,"score_ratio":3.875}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5imku","c_root_id_B":"fk5jb7s","created_at_utc_A":1583881262,"created_at_utc_B":1583881671,"score_A":14,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","human_ref_B":"If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":409.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5gw63","c_root_id_B":"fk5jb7s","created_at_utc_A":1583880247,"created_at_utc_B":1583881671,"score_A":8,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","human_ref_B":"If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1424.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5mdqm","c_root_id_B":"fk5y71c","created_at_utc_A":1583883481,"created_at_utc_B":1583890073,"score_A":15,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Personally I get super annoyed at the 'my pet has a weird lump\/skin patch\/thing stuck on him, insert super vague description and no picture, what is it?' posts.","human_ref_B":"The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6592.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5y71c","c_root_id_B":"fk5nzz1","created_at_utc_A":1583890073,"created_at_utc_B":1583884442,"score_A":16,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.","human_ref_B":"I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions\/ advice from people that already went through similar things.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5631.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5imku","c_root_id_B":"fk5y71c","created_at_utc_A":1583881262,"created_at_utc_B":1583890073,"score_A":14,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","human_ref_B":"The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8811.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5gw63","c_root_id_B":"fk5y71c","created_at_utc_A":1583880247,"created_at_utc_B":1583890073,"score_A":8,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","human_ref_B":"The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9826.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5imku","c_root_id_B":"fk5mdqm","created_at_utc_A":1583881262,"created_at_utc_B":1583883481,"score_A":14,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","human_ref_B":"Personally I get super annoyed at the 'my pet has a weird lump\/skin patch\/thing stuck on him, insert super vague description and no picture, what is it?' posts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2219.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5mdqm","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583883481,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Personally I get super annoyed at the 'my pet has a weird lump\/skin patch\/thing stuck on him, insert super vague description and no picture, what is it?' posts.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3234.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5nzz1","c_root_id_B":"fk5imku","created_at_utc_A":1583884442,"created_at_utc_B":1583881262,"score_A":15,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions\/ advice from people that already went through similar things.","human_ref_B":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3180.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5nzz1","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583884442,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions\/ advice from people that already went through similar things.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4195.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5imku","c_root_id_B":"fk5gw63","created_at_utc_A":1583881262,"created_at_utc_B":1583880247,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.","human_ref_B":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1015.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk5gw63","c_root_id_B":"fk65dvd","created_at_utc_A":1583880247,"created_at_utc_B":1583894049,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.","human_ref_B":"Speaking from my own experiences, I posted about my sick eel because he wasn't stable enough for me to travel with him over 200 miles to another state with a fish vet. I didn't get any response and I euthanized him after his conditioned worsened.  Sometimes finding care for a fish is impossible. My daughter is becoming a fish vet, but until then I'm literally the most knowledgeable person I have to turn to outside reddit","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13802.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk65dvd","c_root_id_B":"fk61txw","created_at_utc_A":1583894049,"created_at_utc_B":1583892012,"score_A":10,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Speaking from my own experiences, I posted about my sick eel because he wasn't stable enough for me to travel with him over 200 miles to another state with a fish vet. I didn't get any response and I euthanized him after his conditioned worsened.  Sometimes finding care for a fish is impossible. My daughter is becoming a fish vet, but until then I'm literally the most knowledgeable person I have to turn to outside reddit","human_ref_B":"I think you also see the \"hot posts\" on the front page that get a lot of (negative) attention. If you look at the sub and sort by \"new\", it's all pretty reasonable stuff.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2037.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"fgm2vb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?","c_root_id_A":"fk61txw","c_root_id_B":"fk67szw","created_at_utc_A":1583892012,"created_at_utc_B":1583895510,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I think you also see the \"hot posts\" on the front page that get a lot of (negative) attention. If you look at the sub and sort by \"new\", it's all pretty reasonable stuff.","human_ref_B":"(Not a vet!) Just to add another POV, I think a lot of people get a sort of mental- fatigue\/ drain with pet illnesses and vet visits. In many ways, animal medicine can be more difficult than human medicine. Pets can't always communicate problems like humans can, they can be very difficult to medicate, they'll often unknowingly fight against their treatments...  And to highlight a big issue here, research on animal medicine and health can be limited. To be clear, I'm in no way trying to blame vets at all as obviously this isn't their fault- but so many people have dished out multiple paychecks worth of money to be told in the end that the illness is fatal, or the treatment is very pricey and has a low chance of survival. Or, a common one I see, after multiple vet visits with some serious symptoms and lots of money paid no one knows what's going on. Stuff like this can be incredibly stressful, and can make as much as walking into a vet office grounds for a panic- attack for some heavier cases.   Again, I'm definitely not trying to hold vets accountable, nor am I providing reason against these visits, as ultimately I agree, a sick or hurting animal needs professional help. I just think the mental- health aspect is more prominent then it often gets credit for and wanted to bring this to the spotlight.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3498.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxyve7","c_root_id_B":"gnxs4u0","created_at_utc_A":1613689250,"created_at_utc_B":1613686144,"score_A":198,"score_B":119,"human_ref_A":"NaV. I can\u2019t evaluate the x-rays, so I\u2019ll just assume there\u2019s nothing which can be done.  Here\u2019s what I personally would choose: The home euthanasia, without his brother being present at euthanasia (to avoid him making a connection between vet intervention and losing his brother). But I would let him say goodbye afterwards. I think there is enough evidence to show animals need closure as well. Just my thoughts. The decision you as their dog parent make, is always the best one. No one can decide better than you as you know them the best.   More importantly, make sure you know about the procedure. On that day, don\u2019t let the vets rush you, but take the time you and your dog need. And don\u2019t forget, now is the time he can have that unhealthy treat he always wanted and never was allowed to eat.   Sending strength \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"You should do what feels best for you. Walk through the day in your head and think about what will be easiest and most fun\/stress-free for your pets.   I do think that most dog siblings do well \"being there\" for their older friends - but they should not be present when the IV is placed so as to not stress anyone out (the dogs, or the people in the room). Some people think that being there helps give them \"closure\" or at least helps them understand. I am not sure if this is just us anthropomorphizing our buddies. At the very least I don't think it is wrong to do. Your three year old will still probably grieve his friend either way. Does the younger brother also love the vet? Consider this in your decision - if he is stressed there he might get anxious and make the experience more stressful overall.  This is all very personal and you need to think about what the best experience will be for you and your dogs.    There are some logistical considerations: Are vets allowing clients to come into the building where you live? If not, a home service might be best. If you do have a service come to your house, consider how they will move Zeus. If you are in a 5-story walk-up it might be best to bring him into the vet because transportation back to the clinic will be difficult.  Sorry you are going through this. As you process the loss of your friend remember that grief is just love with no place to go.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3106.0,"score_ratio":1.6638655462}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxyve7","c_root_id_B":"gnxwor8","created_at_utc_A":1613689250,"created_at_utc_B":1613688226,"score_A":198,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"NaV. I can\u2019t evaluate the x-rays, so I\u2019ll just assume there\u2019s nothing which can be done.  Here\u2019s what I personally would choose: The home euthanasia, without his brother being present at euthanasia (to avoid him making a connection between vet intervention and losing his brother). But I would let him say goodbye afterwards. I think there is enough evidence to show animals need closure as well. Just my thoughts. The decision you as their dog parent make, is always the best one. No one can decide better than you as you know them the best.   More importantly, make sure you know about the procedure. On that day, don\u2019t let the vets rush you, but take the time you and your dog need. And don\u2019t forget, now is the time he can have that unhealthy treat he always wanted and never was allowed to eat.   Sending strength \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"If you decide to go to the vet and do it, make sure you're allowed into the room first. Due to covid, a lot of vet places aren't allowing the owners to come in and be with their pet when they euthanize them. If you aren't allowed to go in with him, then I would suggest doing it at home. Whether or not his brother is allowed to see is up to you and what you think would be best.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1024.0,"score_ratio":3.8823529412}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxwor8","c_root_id_B":"gnxzeh5","created_at_utc_A":1613688226,"created_at_utc_B":1613689508,"score_A":51,"score_B":98,"human_ref_A":"If you decide to go to the vet and do it, make sure you're allowed into the room first. Due to covid, a lot of vet places aren't allowing the owners to come in and be with their pet when they euthanize them. If you aren't allowed to go in with him, then I would suggest doing it at home. Whether or not his brother is allowed to see is up to you and what you think would be best.","human_ref_B":"It's perfectly fine to have the other dog see the body after the fact, but you don't want him to be present during the procedure. This can only create more stress, which really isn't something that you want during your dog's last moments.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1282.0,"score_ratio":1.9215686275}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxzeh5","c_root_id_B":"gnxz44b","created_at_utc_A":1613689508,"created_at_utc_B":1613689368,"score_A":98,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"It's perfectly fine to have the other dog see the body after the fact, but you don't want him to be present during the procedure. This can only create more stress, which really isn't something that you want during your dog's last moments.","human_ref_B":"Everyone has already answered really well. It really needs to come down to what you feel will be the best for Zeus and yourself. Every vet and vet clinic is different in how they handle euthanasias even outside of COVID times. There are absolutely services that will offer to come to your home for euthanasia and something our clinic did before COVID for specific cases.      As far as his 'brother' I have always felt it does bring them some sort of closure but that is just a personal opinion. It is what I would do in that situation but once again it needs to come down to what you feel would be best for Zeus.      I am very sorry for your situation and having to navigate this very difficult decision.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":140.0,"score_ratio":2.7222222222}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxzu4s","c_root_id_B":"gnxzi5q","created_at_utc_A":1613689715,"created_at_utc_B":1613689558,"score_A":15,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry you're in this position and that Zeus is sick. As others have said, it's a personal decision. Dogs tend to know what's going on with each other, and it's possible he may wonder where his brother has gone and look for him. He will probably mourn if he's present as well. Do what feels right for you and your family. Sending you my thoughts","human_ref_B":"I believe you feeling like your 3-year would need closure is an anthropomorphous thing we tend to do to our pets and it maybe more for you than the actual dog. Seeing his buddy euthanized may stress him out and\/or make him anxious for many years to come (dogs feel trama too). I don't know the right answer here and only you can decide that, but I am deeply sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you and your family during this difficult time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":157.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"lmy9th","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I need to euthanize my dog. Should I have a service come to our home or take him to the vet... should his \"brother\" be present? Our nearly 5 year old, 109 lb, male pitbull has cancer.  It's bad.  Long story short, the only remedy is euthanasia.  According to the vet, surgery is off the table (he's too far gone), as is chemo (unlikely to yield a good result while only making him sick).  His name is Zeus and he is the sweetest, gentlest, lovable guy you will ever meet. Our family is devistated.  Here are the x-rays for anyone interested. There are 7 images in the gallery. https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/HRfJodc  We have to make a decision soon, before he begins to suffer unnecessarily. Prolonging his life, at this point, is only because we don't want to let him go.  His \"brother\" is a 3 year old pitbull mix.  They are EXTREMELY close.  Do we arrange to have the other dog present while we have the sick guy euthanized?  I don't want him to not know where his brother went.... but maybe this is a bad idea.  I don't know and am desperately seeking advice.  Also, we can arrange a service to perform the euthanization here at home or we can take him to the vet where he absolutely loves to visit.  That call might just come down to who is available and when.  I appreciate any advice.","c_root_id_A":"gnxzi5q","c_root_id_B":"gny9e35","created_at_utc_A":1613689558,"created_at_utc_B":1613694452,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I believe you feeling like your 3-year would need closure is an anthropomorphous thing we tend to do to our pets and it maybe more for you than the actual dog. Seeing his buddy euthanized may stress him out and\/or make him anxious for many years to come (dogs feel trama too). I don't know the right answer here and only you can decide that, but I am deeply sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you and your family during this difficult time.","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry that you are having to say goodbye to your beloved boy. I'd suggest writing down a list of any questions you might have in regards to the euthanasia and the general procedures of the clinic\/service youre considering using.  Having the opportunity to get your questions answered ahead of 'the day' can really help reduce unnecessary stress for yourself and therefore your boy. For example do you have the option to bury him on your property or is cremation something you might consider? It seems like you have a good relationship with your current vet, if I were in your situation then I'd check what their protocols are as far as allowing people into the clinic and strongly consider making a booking with them, as both you and Zeus know them.  Once you have a plan in place, then have a think about your boys favourite foods\/activities and if your situation permits spoil him just a little bit.  As far as having your other boy present thats really up to you as others have said.   Wishing you and Zeus all the best for whatever time you have left together, take care of yourself and allow time to grieve your loss but also remember to take the time to celebrate all the wonderful memories you will have built in your time together","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4894.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3egy9","c_root_id_B":"fn3c3lz","created_at_utc_A":1586619070,"created_at_utc_B":1586617621,"score_A":75,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"r\/RandomActsOfPetFood","human_ref_B":"I'd definitely suggest checking with your local animal shelters, they may be aware of local services that can help. Also wouldn't hurt to check with actual food banks, who may or may not have a supply of dog food.  Consider checking out r\/Assistance as well. Some good people there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1449.0,"score_ratio":1.7441860465}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3egy9","c_root_id_B":"fn3bxs0","created_at_utc_A":1586619070,"created_at_utc_B":1586617522,"score_A":75,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"r\/RandomActsOfPetFood","human_ref_B":"Try Googling your location, plus the words \u201cpet food pantry\u201d. With the COVID-19 pandemic, we have more and more opening every day. As of last week, the ASPCA opened one of the largest pet food pantries to date in NYC. More are coming nationwide (I\u2019m making the assumption you\u2019re in the states, but this might be true for other countries too. Not sure.)  If you have no luck, try r\/randomactsofpetfood","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1548.0,"score_ratio":3.125}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn39xy5","c_root_id_B":"fn3egy9","created_at_utc_A":1586616290,"created_at_utc_B":1586619070,"score_A":19,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"You've made an excellent point about home-made food. The main worry is that over time, all the different nutritional requirements aren't met. Dogs need carbs and protein, so for example he would be fine for a few days on rice and eggs (no salt). however, as someone has said, do ask at the human food banks to see if they have any dog food. Also contact local resuces. And maybe look on your local facebook page and ask if anyone has any to donate or knows anywhere that acts as a food bank that has pet food? Good luck","human_ref_B":"r\/RandomActsOfPetFood","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2780.0,"score_ratio":3.9473684211}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3bjrt","c_root_id_B":"fn3egy9","created_at_utc_A":1586617281,"created_at_utc_B":1586619070,"score_A":7,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"How was his allergy to peas and potatoes determined?","human_ref_B":"r\/RandomActsOfPetFood","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1789.0,"score_ratio":10.7142857143}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3d465","c_root_id_B":"fn3egy9","created_at_utc_A":1586618245,"created_at_utc_B":1586619070,"score_A":5,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"It wouldn't hurt to try and post on places like your community facebook page, or craigslist (or something similar). I would even try the subreddit for your local city or state.","human_ref_B":"r\/RandomActsOfPetFood","labels":0,"seconds_difference":825.0,"score_ratio":15.0}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3c3lz","c_root_id_B":"fn3bxs0","created_at_utc_A":1586617621,"created_at_utc_B":1586617522,"score_A":43,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"I'd definitely suggest checking with your local animal shelters, they may be aware of local services that can help. Also wouldn't hurt to check with actual food banks, who may or may not have a supply of dog food.  Consider checking out r\/Assistance as well. Some good people there.","human_ref_B":"Try Googling your location, plus the words \u201cpet food pantry\u201d. With the COVID-19 pandemic, we have more and more opening every day. As of last week, the ASPCA opened one of the largest pet food pantries to date in NYC. More are coming nationwide (I\u2019m making the assumption you\u2019re in the states, but this might be true for other countries too. Not sure.)  If you have no luck, try r\/randomactsofpetfood","labels":1,"seconds_difference":99.0,"score_ratio":1.7916666667}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn39xy5","c_root_id_B":"fn3c3lz","created_at_utc_A":1586616290,"created_at_utc_B":1586617621,"score_A":19,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"You've made an excellent point about home-made food. The main worry is that over time, all the different nutritional requirements aren't met. Dogs need carbs and protein, so for example he would be fine for a few days on rice and eggs (no salt). however, as someone has said, do ask at the human food banks to see if they have any dog food. Also contact local resuces. And maybe look on your local facebook page and ask if anyone has any to donate or knows anywhere that acts as a food bank that has pet food? Good luck","human_ref_B":"I'd definitely suggest checking with your local animal shelters, they may be aware of local services that can help. Also wouldn't hurt to check with actual food banks, who may or may not have a supply of dog food.  Consider checking out r\/Assistance as well. Some good people there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1331.0,"score_ratio":2.2631578947}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3c3lz","c_root_id_B":"fn3bjrt","created_at_utc_A":1586617621,"created_at_utc_B":1586617281,"score_A":43,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I'd definitely suggest checking with your local animal shelters, they may be aware of local services that can help. Also wouldn't hurt to check with actual food banks, who may or may not have a supply of dog food.  Consider checking out r\/Assistance as well. Some good people there.","human_ref_B":"How was his allergy to peas and potatoes determined?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":340.0,"score_ratio":6.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3bxs0","c_root_id_B":"fn39xy5","created_at_utc_A":1586617522,"created_at_utc_B":1586616290,"score_A":24,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Try Googling your location, plus the words \u201cpet food pantry\u201d. With the COVID-19 pandemic, we have more and more opening every day. As of last week, the ASPCA opened one of the largest pet food pantries to date in NYC. More are coming nationwide (I\u2019m making the assumption you\u2019re in the states, but this might be true for other countries too. Not sure.)  If you have no luck, try r\/randomactsofpetfood","human_ref_B":"You've made an excellent point about home-made food. The main worry is that over time, all the different nutritional requirements aren't met. Dogs need carbs and protein, so for example he would be fine for a few days on rice and eggs (no salt). however, as someone has said, do ask at the human food banks to see if they have any dog food. Also contact local resuces. And maybe look on your local facebook page and ask if anyone has any to donate or knows anywhere that acts as a food bank that has pet food? Good luck","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1232.0,"score_ratio":1.2631578947}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3bjrt","c_root_id_B":"fn3bxs0","created_at_utc_A":1586617281,"created_at_utc_B":1586617522,"score_A":7,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"How was his allergy to peas and potatoes determined?","human_ref_B":"Try Googling your location, plus the words \u201cpet food pantry\u201d. With the COVID-19 pandemic, we have more and more opening every day. As of last week, the ASPCA opened one of the largest pet food pantries to date in NYC. More are coming nationwide (I\u2019m making the assumption you\u2019re in the states, but this might be true for other countries too. Not sure.)  If you have no luck, try r\/randomactsofpetfood","labels":0,"seconds_difference":241.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3bjrt","c_root_id_B":"fn3oz2p","created_at_utc_A":1586617281,"created_at_utc_B":1586625082,"score_A":7,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"How was his allergy to peas and potatoes determined?","human_ref_B":"Try calling up local food banks. Many will have dog food available. It isn't always the best food but it's great to have when you have no other way to feed your pet. There's also r\/randomactsofpetfood","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7801.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3oz2p","c_root_id_B":"fn3fkuv","created_at_utc_A":1586625082,"created_at_utc_B":1586619725,"score_A":15,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Try calling up local food banks. Many will have dog food available. It isn't always the best food but it's great to have when you have no other way to feed your pet. There's also r\/randomactsofpetfood","human_ref_B":"Contact your local Humane Society location(s). States are providing free food and virtual care for animals, as well. Also, contact local vets as they may have information regarding assistance from different organizations.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5357.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3oz2p","c_root_id_B":"fn3d465","created_at_utc_A":1586625082,"created_at_utc_B":1586618245,"score_A":15,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Try calling up local food banks. Many will have dog food available. It isn't always the best food but it's great to have when you have no other way to feed your pet. There's also r\/randomactsofpetfood","human_ref_B":"It wouldn't hurt to try and post on places like your community facebook page, or craigslist (or something similar). I would even try the subreddit for your local city or state.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6837.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3oz2p","c_root_id_B":"fn3hv81","created_at_utc_A":1586625082,"created_at_utc_B":1586621055,"score_A":15,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Try calling up local food banks. Many will have dog food available. It isn't always the best food but it's great to have when you have no other way to feed your pet. There's also r\/randomactsofpetfood","human_ref_B":"Indianapolis\u2019 humane society has a pet food pantry bi weekly for low income ppl. So I\u2019d imagine most big city humane societies offer such things as well. Just gotta call around.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4027.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3rw0c","c_root_id_B":"fn3bjrt","created_at_utc_A":1586626713,"created_at_utc_B":1586617281,"score_A":11,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","human_ref_B":"How was his allergy to peas and potatoes determined?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9432.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3rw0c","c_root_id_B":"fn3fkuv","created_at_utc_A":1586626713,"created_at_utc_B":1586619725,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","human_ref_B":"Contact your local Humane Society location(s). States are providing free food and virtual care for animals, as well. Also, contact local vets as they may have information regarding assistance from different organizations.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6988.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3d465","c_root_id_B":"fn3rw0c","created_at_utc_A":1586618245,"created_at_utc_B":1586626713,"score_A":5,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"It wouldn't hurt to try and post on places like your community facebook page, or craigslist (or something similar). I would even try the subreddit for your local city or state.","human_ref_B":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8468.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3rw0c","c_root_id_B":"fn3hv81","created_at_utc_A":1586626713,"created_at_utc_B":1586621055,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","human_ref_B":"Indianapolis\u2019 humane society has a pet food pantry bi weekly for low income ppl. So I\u2019d imagine most big city humane societies offer such things as well. Just gotta call around.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5658.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3rw0c","c_root_id_B":"fn3pzcq","created_at_utc_A":1586626713,"created_at_utc_B":1586625653,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","human_ref_B":"What country\/area do you live in?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1060.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3rw0c","c_root_id_B":"fn3r5wa","created_at_utc_A":1586626713,"created_at_utc_B":1586626315,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP: If you'd like to keep cooking for your pup, please reach out to your vet and see if they can get a veterinary nutritionist approved recipe for you to follow!","human_ref_B":"Contact your local animal shelter, they\u2019ll know how to help you. I live in KY and you may have to drive to get it but it\u2019s available","labels":1,"seconds_difference":398.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3fkuv","c_root_id_B":"fn47der","created_at_utc_A":1586619725,"created_at_utc_B":1586635554,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Contact your local Humane Society location(s). States are providing free food and virtual care for animals, as well. Also, contact local vets as they may have information regarding assistance from different organizations.","human_ref_B":"if you absolutely have to go the homecooked route, check out www.balanceit.com.  it allows you to put in the ingredients you have available and will tell you whether or not it's nutritionally sound.  most homemade diets do require some sort of vitamins or supplements to meet all of the dog's needs, but in a pinch, this may help until you can get him back on his regular diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15829.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3hv81","c_root_id_B":"fn47der","created_at_utc_A":1586621055,"created_at_utc_B":1586635554,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Indianapolis\u2019 humane society has a pet food pantry bi weekly for low income ppl. So I\u2019d imagine most big city humane societies offer such things as well. Just gotta call around.","human_ref_B":"if you absolutely have to go the homecooked route, check out www.balanceit.com.  it allows you to put in the ingredients you have available and will tell you whether or not it's nutritionally sound.  most homemade diets do require some sort of vitamins or supplements to meet all of the dog's needs, but in a pinch, this may help until you can get him back on his regular diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14499.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn40kpr","c_root_id_B":"fn47der","created_at_utc_A":1586631614,"created_at_utc_B":1586635554,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m an LVT at my county shelter. During these times we have ramped up our food pantry for locals in need. I would recommend checking in with your local county shelter or humane society - many offer similar services. It\u2019s very possible they can accommodate your dogs\u2019s dietary needs. For instance, I can think of many foods just off the top of my head that would work. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"if you absolutely have to go the homecooked route, check out www.balanceit.com.  it allows you to put in the ingredients you have available and will tell you whether or not it's nutritionally sound.  most homemade diets do require some sort of vitamins or supplements to meet all of the dog's needs, but in a pinch, this may help until you can get him back on his regular diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3940.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3pzcq","c_root_id_B":"fn47der","created_at_utc_A":1586625653,"created_at_utc_B":1586635554,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"What country\/area do you live in?","human_ref_B":"if you absolutely have to go the homecooked route, check out www.balanceit.com.  it allows you to put in the ingredients you have available and will tell you whether or not it's nutritionally sound.  most homemade diets do require some sort of vitamins or supplements to meet all of the dog's needs, but in a pinch, this may help until you can get him back on his regular diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9901.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn3r5wa","c_root_id_B":"fn47der","created_at_utc_A":1586626315,"created_at_utc_B":1586635554,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Contact your local animal shelter, they\u2019ll know how to help you. I live in KY and you may have to drive to get it but it\u2019s available","human_ref_B":"if you absolutely have to go the homecooked route, check out www.balanceit.com.  it allows you to put in the ingredients you have available and will tell you whether or not it's nutritionally sound.  most homemade diets do require some sort of vitamins or supplements to meet all of the dog's needs, but in a pinch, this may help until you can get him back on his regular diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9239.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn40kpr","c_root_id_B":"fn3pzcq","created_at_utc_A":1586631614,"created_at_utc_B":1586625653,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m an LVT at my county shelter. During these times we have ramped up our food pantry for locals in need. I would recommend checking in with your local county shelter or humane society - many offer similar services. It\u2019s very possible they can accommodate your dogs\u2019s dietary needs. For instance, I can think of many foods just off the top of my head that would work. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"What country\/area do you live in?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5961.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"fz6dtq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is there an equivalent to a food pantry to get pet food? I was just starting to get back on my feet, and now with the coronavirus pandemic I have sadly been laid off. My dog has saved me from doing something stupid in my darkest hour - literally grabbing my pant leg and pulling and shaking it profusely refusing to stop, until I placed the pills down. I am seeing a therapist for the ptsd and depression that caused that incident. My dog is allergic to peas and potatoes, so sadly his food options aren\u2019t exactly inexpensive. I have been attempting to make him homemade dog food; however, I worry he\u2019s not getting all the nutrition he would otherwise get from dog food.","c_root_id_A":"fn40kpr","c_root_id_B":"fn3r5wa","created_at_utc_A":1586631614,"created_at_utc_B":1586626315,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m an LVT at my county shelter. During these times we have ramped up our food pantry for locals in need. I would recommend checking in with your local county shelter or humane society - many offer similar services. It\u2019s very possible they can accommodate your dogs\u2019s dietary needs. For instance, I can think of many foods just off the top of my head that would work. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"Contact your local animal shelter, they\u2019ll know how to help you. I live in KY and you may have to drive to get it but it\u2019s available","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5299.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ncba53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Bragging on my Sister. Vets rock! I just felt like bragging about my sister because I can.  I call her my big-little sister because I\u2019m older than her in years but she far exceeds myself in any other measurable category (ok \u2014 I\u2019m technically taller too).   My sister knew she wanted to be a vet from a very, very early age. She grew up playing with animal toys and a pink plastic \u201cdoctors bag\u201d with a toy stethoscope and etc.  She busted her you-know-what and graduated as one of the top of her class from OSU\u2019s vet school in 2020 (while also being a mother hen to her fellow students and cooking goodness knows how many hundreds of cookies to bring to her peers because she\u2019s awesome like that).  Then COVID came.   My sister\u2019s graduation was cancelled. She had no graduation party from her school. No pictures in her Doctorate regalia.  No walk across a stage.  No shaking the Dean\u2019s hand.  No days in their honor.  All that work to have your diploma mailed (folded) by USPS with no fanfare.   And you know what? Her and her entire class (the highest graduating % class in OSU history) kept calm and carried on. They strapped on their gloves and face masks and went to work, caring for the fur babies of the pandemic that keep us all sane.    So I just want to say, vets are amazing people.  My own puppy-daughter broke her Ulna at a young age and vets did surgery and let her run again\u2026  \u2026and my sister literally slept in the floor of the clinic she went to so she had someone familiar to pull her though.   I\u2019m sorry if this is off topic for this area, but I just wanted to say all vets are awesome people and I\u2019m very thankful for each and every one of you.   I\u2019m the words of my sister herself: Every \u2018boop\u2019 makes it more worth it.   Thank you vets for all you do. You don\u2019t hear it enough.    With great respect, A fur baby dad to a Brittany","c_root_id_A":"gy4muft","c_root_id_B":"gy4cg4g","created_at_utc_A":1621016428,"created_at_utc_B":1621011925,"score_A":11,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"That's awesome! Boop her snoot for me!","human_ref_B":"Your sister rocks!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4503.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"ncba53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Bragging on my Sister. Vets rock! I just felt like bragging about my sister because I can.  I call her my big-little sister because I\u2019m older than her in years but she far exceeds myself in any other measurable category (ok \u2014 I\u2019m technically taller too).   My sister knew she wanted to be a vet from a very, very early age. She grew up playing with animal toys and a pink plastic \u201cdoctors bag\u201d with a toy stethoscope and etc.  She busted her you-know-what and graduated as one of the top of her class from OSU\u2019s vet school in 2020 (while also being a mother hen to her fellow students and cooking goodness knows how many hundreds of cookies to bring to her peers because she\u2019s awesome like that).  Then COVID came.   My sister\u2019s graduation was cancelled. She had no graduation party from her school. No pictures in her Doctorate regalia.  No walk across a stage.  No shaking the Dean\u2019s hand.  No days in their honor.  All that work to have your diploma mailed (folded) by USPS with no fanfare.   And you know what? Her and her entire class (the highest graduating % class in OSU history) kept calm and carried on. They strapped on their gloves and face masks and went to work, caring for the fur babies of the pandemic that keep us all sane.    So I just want to say, vets are amazing people.  My own puppy-daughter broke her Ulna at a young age and vets did surgery and let her run again\u2026  \u2026and my sister literally slept in the floor of the clinic she went to so she had someone familiar to pull her though.   I\u2019m sorry if this is off topic for this area, but I just wanted to say all vets are awesome people and I\u2019m very thankful for each and every one of you.   I\u2019m the words of my sister herself: Every \u2018boop\u2019 makes it more worth it.   Thank you vets for all you do. You don\u2019t hear it enough.    With great respect, A fur baby dad to a Brittany","c_root_id_A":"gy4vqd7","c_root_id_B":"gy4x2tj","created_at_utc_A":1621020324,"created_at_utc_B":1621020922,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Ok the part about her sleeping on the floor of the vets office literally made me tear up. Your sister sounds like an amazing person.","human_ref_B":"Congratulations to her!!! I\u2019m lucky to have wonderful vets. I wish they could take care of me, too!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":598.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"idbmus","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dropped my 10 week old puppy, her behaviour has changed completely Hi. I posted the following in \/r\/puppy101 but it was removed for being too close to a medical issue.  For the past couple of weeks since we got our female cockapoo puppy, she has barely left my side. She follows me everywhere, lies on my foot during my work day, and was basically every where I went, the moment I stood up, and crying when I was in the loo etc.  Yesterday, a was putting her down on the kitchen floor (one handed, my hand under her belly) when she rolled out and fell on her side. She yelped, and her attitude towards me immediately changed. I said sorry over and over, in as gentle voice as I could, gave her a couple of treats, but since then she has been so different it's scaring me. She goes to empty rooms by herself, which has never happened before for a moment. She's stopped running completely, doesn't seem interested in the toys that she was going crazy over before, and is not eating her food in one go.  We took her to the vet yesterday evening, and she agreed that she's incredibly subdued, but physically okay. They gave her an injection in case she was sore, and this morning she was lively out of her cage for a bit (with my wife), then reverted back to walking everywhere, being alone, and not constantly scrambling at my legs like the past two weeks.  Is this just a trust issue I have to deal with, or something else?","c_root_id_A":"g28ev3r","c_root_id_B":"g28ejxu","created_at_utc_A":1597944455,"created_at_utc_B":1597944305,"score_A":182,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"not a vet- but I would like to suggest giving her cuddle 'therapy' for as long as she will allow, to sit next to you in the bed or couch, to build up trust. she could still be sore. also, dont overcrowd her, when she wants to be alone it's okay to give her a little space. pain signals can include wanting to be alone (wandering into empty rooms).","human_ref_B":"Call your vet and give them an update.  Ask if they advise having her back for a recheck +\/- any diagnostic tests.  Puppies are usually pretty \u201cemotionally resilient\u201d and if she was scared by the fall I would imagine she would be nervous around you, rather than lethargic and off her food.   There\u2019s also the possibility that there could be something else completely going on, and the onset of symptoms after the fall is coincidental.  Follow up with your vet today as she is such a little puppy.  Good luck with her!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":150.0,"score_ratio":2.935483871}
{"post_id":"idbmus","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dropped my 10 week old puppy, her behaviour has changed completely Hi. I posted the following in \/r\/puppy101 but it was removed for being too close to a medical issue.  For the past couple of weeks since we got our female cockapoo puppy, she has barely left my side. She follows me everywhere, lies on my foot during my work day, and was basically every where I went, the moment I stood up, and crying when I was in the loo etc.  Yesterday, a was putting her down on the kitchen floor (one handed, my hand under her belly) when she rolled out and fell on her side. She yelped, and her attitude towards me immediately changed. I said sorry over and over, in as gentle voice as I could, gave her a couple of treats, but since then she has been so different it's scaring me. She goes to empty rooms by herself, which has never happened before for a moment. She's stopped running completely, doesn't seem interested in the toys that she was going crazy over before, and is not eating her food in one go.  We took her to the vet yesterday evening, and she agreed that she's incredibly subdued, but physically okay. They gave her an injection in case she was sore, and this morning she was lively out of her cage for a bit (with my wife), then reverted back to walking everywhere, being alone, and not constantly scrambling at my legs like the past two weeks.  Is this just a trust issue I have to deal with, or something else?","c_root_id_A":"g28ejxu","c_root_id_B":"g28jaqa","created_at_utc_A":1597944305,"created_at_utc_B":1597946518,"score_A":62,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"Call your vet and give them an update.  Ask if they advise having her back for a recheck +\/- any diagnostic tests.  Puppies are usually pretty \u201cemotionally resilient\u201d and if she was scared by the fall I would imagine she would be nervous around you, rather than lethargic and off her food.   There\u2019s also the possibility that there could be something else completely going on, and the onset of symptoms after the fall is coincidental.  Follow up with your vet today as she is such a little puppy.  Good luck with her!","human_ref_B":"I would call your vet and let them know she seemed better after the meds, but went back to moping soon later. They may be able to give you something for the pain for a few days if she\u2019s just sore.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2213.0,"score_ratio":1.0483870968}
{"post_id":"idbmus","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dropped my 10 week old puppy, her behaviour has changed completely Hi. I posted the following in \/r\/puppy101 but it was removed for being too close to a medical issue.  For the past couple of weeks since we got our female cockapoo puppy, she has barely left my side. She follows me everywhere, lies on my foot during my work day, and was basically every where I went, the moment I stood up, and crying when I was in the loo etc.  Yesterday, a was putting her down on the kitchen floor (one handed, my hand under her belly) when she rolled out and fell on her side. She yelped, and her attitude towards me immediately changed. I said sorry over and over, in as gentle voice as I could, gave her a couple of treats, but since then she has been so different it's scaring me. She goes to empty rooms by herself, which has never happened before for a moment. She's stopped running completely, doesn't seem interested in the toys that she was going crazy over before, and is not eating her food in one go.  We took her to the vet yesterday evening, and she agreed that she's incredibly subdued, but physically okay. They gave her an injection in case she was sore, and this morning she was lively out of her cage for a bit (with my wife), then reverted back to walking everywhere, being alone, and not constantly scrambling at my legs like the past two weeks.  Is this just a trust issue I have to deal with, or something else?","c_root_id_A":"g28h69f","c_root_id_B":"g28jaqa","created_at_utc_A":1597945513,"created_at_utc_B":1597946518,"score_A":44,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"Would recommend you go back to your vet before they close for the weekend in case pain rather than just fear","human_ref_B":"I would call your vet and let them know she seemed better after the meds, but went back to moping soon later. They may be able to give you something for the pain for a few days if she\u2019s just sore.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1005.0,"score_ratio":1.4772727273}
{"post_id":"idbmus","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dropped my 10 week old puppy, her behaviour has changed completely Hi. I posted the following in \/r\/puppy101 but it was removed for being too close to a medical issue.  For the past couple of weeks since we got our female cockapoo puppy, she has barely left my side. She follows me everywhere, lies on my foot during my work day, and was basically every where I went, the moment I stood up, and crying when I was in the loo etc.  Yesterday, a was putting her down on the kitchen floor (one handed, my hand under her belly) when she rolled out and fell on her side. She yelped, and her attitude towards me immediately changed. I said sorry over and over, in as gentle voice as I could, gave her a couple of treats, but since then she has been so different it's scaring me. She goes to empty rooms by herself, which has never happened before for a moment. She's stopped running completely, doesn't seem interested in the toys that she was going crazy over before, and is not eating her food in one go.  We took her to the vet yesterday evening, and she agreed that she's incredibly subdued, but physically okay. They gave her an injection in case she was sore, and this morning she was lively out of her cage for a bit (with my wife), then reverted back to walking everywhere, being alone, and not constantly scrambling at my legs like the past two weeks.  Is this just a trust issue I have to deal with, or something else?","c_root_id_A":"g29p6ik","c_root_id_B":"g28uyxs","created_at_utc_A":1597965329,"created_at_utc_B":1597951606,"score_A":32,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If she improved after receiving a medication for pain, it could very well be that she\u2019s in pain. Recognizing pain in animals can be tricky, and I recommend making sure you\u2019re addressing any potential physical pain first. None of the injections commonly used in vet med for pain are long acting (usually wear off by 12 hours post administration). So calling your vet back to see if they would be willing to prescribe a few days of pain meds would be a good choice. That said, dogs do most of their social learning as puppies, so you should definitely work on building her bond with the family back up. If she does better with your wife, maybe have your wife start with her and then bring you\/others into some play sessions once there\u2019s an improvement.","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet if they know of any animal behaviorists who might be able to help you out.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13723.0,"score_ratio":6.4}
{"post_id":"idbmus","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dropped my 10 week old puppy, her behaviour has changed completely Hi. I posted the following in \/r\/puppy101 but it was removed for being too close to a medical issue.  For the past couple of weeks since we got our female cockapoo puppy, she has barely left my side. She follows me everywhere, lies on my foot during my work day, and was basically every where I went, the moment I stood up, and crying when I was in the loo etc.  Yesterday, a was putting her down on the kitchen floor (one handed, my hand under her belly) when she rolled out and fell on her side. She yelped, and her attitude towards me immediately changed. I said sorry over and over, in as gentle voice as I could, gave her a couple of treats, but since then she has been so different it's scaring me. She goes to empty rooms by herself, which has never happened before for a moment. She's stopped running completely, doesn't seem interested in the toys that she was going crazy over before, and is not eating her food in one go.  We took her to the vet yesterday evening, and she agreed that she's incredibly subdued, but physically okay. They gave her an injection in case she was sore, and this morning she was lively out of her cage for a bit (with my wife), then reverted back to walking everywhere, being alone, and not constantly scrambling at my legs like the past two weeks.  Is this just a trust issue I have to deal with, or something else?","c_root_id_A":"g29q6ov","c_root_id_B":"g28uyxs","created_at_utc_A":1597965875,"created_at_utc_B":1597951606,"score_A":10,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I hope your puppy is gets back to normal soon. One thing worth noting, if she cries when you're in the bathroom this is fairly severe separation anxiety. It's worth addressing that because it can be extremely uncomfortable for your dog and gets more severe the longer it goes on.","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet if they know of any animal behaviorists who might be able to help you out.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14269.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibq6b2n","c_root_id_B":"ibqc5zb","created_at_utc_A":1654779543,"created_at_utc_B":1654782532,"score_A":48,"score_B":275,"human_ref_A":"Abso-fucking-lutely not. Firm head taps as a distraction yes but slapping, what the heck is wrong with that person. It just raises fear levels and the let'si get more fearful each visit.","human_ref_B":"That sounds absolutely terrible. And a vet at that? The animal may be uncooperative but it is not the vet's job to \"put them in their place\". Is there anyway to report them? Idk what kind of clinic you work at or anything about your job but I would definetly consider reporting them. I wouldn't want to bring my pet to a vet who smacks them. The vet is already enough stress I don't want my scared pet being abused by a stranger. Like wtf?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2989.0,"score_ratio":5.7291666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibqhyqx","c_root_id_B":"ibq6b2n","created_at_utc_A":1654785222,"created_at_utc_B":1654779543,"score_A":135,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Not only is that animal abuse but it's absolutely ineffective to getting pets to behave. You want to use fear free approaches, not ones that will have them even more uncooperative and defensive next time they see you. If there's a regulating body for licences where you are, report the vet to them.","human_ref_B":"Abso-fucking-lutely not. Firm head taps as a distraction yes but slapping, what the heck is wrong with that person. It just raises fear levels and the let'si get more fearful each visit.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5679.0,"score_ratio":2.8125}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibqhyqx","c_root_id_B":"ibqgjks","created_at_utc_A":1654785222,"created_at_utc_B":1654784581,"score_A":135,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Not only is that animal abuse but it's absolutely ineffective to getting pets to behave. You want to use fear free approaches, not ones that will have them even more uncooperative and defensive next time they see you. If there's a regulating body for licences where you are, report the vet to them.","human_ref_B":"Abuse is never a good solution.. not for animals or humans. You should report that vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":641.0,"score_ratio":3.1395348837}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibqp64y","c_root_id_B":"ibq6b2n","created_at_utc_A":1654788335,"created_at_utc_B":1654779543,"score_A":74,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Complete BS (even the whole dominance theory has shown to be incorrect, let alone slapping and choking) and you should report her to the authorities.","human_ref_B":"Abso-fucking-lutely not. Firm head taps as a distraction yes but slapping, what the heck is wrong with that person. It just raises fear levels and the let'si get more fearful each visit.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8792.0,"score_ratio":1.5416666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibqp64y","c_root_id_B":"ibqgjks","created_at_utc_A":1654788335,"created_at_utc_B":1654784581,"score_A":74,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Complete BS (even the whole dominance theory has shown to be incorrect, let alone slapping and choking) and you should report her to the authorities.","human_ref_B":"Abuse is never a good solution.. not for animals or humans. You should report that vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3754.0,"score_ratio":1.7209302326}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibqgjks","c_root_id_B":"ibqxics","created_at_utc_A":1654784581,"created_at_utc_B":1654791839,"score_A":43,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Abuse is never a good solution.. not for animals or humans. You should report that vet.","human_ref_B":"I am a huge advocate for my patients. I have been a tech for 7 years and have always advocated for all Fear Free techniques. I have no issues to standing up to anyone, and definitely wouldn't tolerate that.   I would complain to the PM regarding this. If you fear retaliation, I'd speak to your state's board. This isn't old-school restraint, this is abuse and should be reported.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7258.0,"score_ratio":1.0465116279}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibr7mmb","c_root_id_B":"ibr5gus","created_at_utc_A":1654796071,"created_at_utc_B":1654795168,"score_A":32,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"If I found out my animal was being smacked at the vet, I'd report it to the police.","human_ref_B":"Definitely report her, that is animal abuse.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":903.0,"score_ratio":1.1851851852}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibr6lsx","c_root_id_B":"ibr7mmb","created_at_utc_A":1654795645,"created_at_utc_B":1654796071,"score_A":15,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s called animal abuse and I would sue the vet if I see that done to my pet as a patient.","human_ref_B":"If I found out my animal was being smacked at the vet, I'd report it to the police.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":426.0,"score_ratio":2.1333333333}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrf0im","c_root_id_B":"ibr6lsx","created_at_utc_A":1654799198,"created_at_utc_B":1654795645,"score_A":22,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Welp, she doesn't deserve to be a vet or anywhere near an animal","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s called animal abuse and I would sue the vet if I see that done to my pet as a patient.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3553.0,"score_ratio":1.4666666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrugvk","c_root_id_B":"ibr6lsx","created_at_utc_A":1654805845,"created_at_utc_B":1654795645,"score_A":22,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Hitting an animal doesn't show dominance, but it's a great way to completely lose an animals trust.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s called animal abuse and I would sue the vet if I see that done to my pet as a patient.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10200.0,"score_ratio":1.4666666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrol4z","c_root_id_B":"ibrugvk","created_at_utc_A":1654803329,"created_at_utc_B":1654805845,"score_A":12,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Let the clients know.  Email every single one.  Don't tell them who it was from.  Use a secure email address and hide yourself as best as possible.  Anonymous report at the very least.  That's really awful what that person's doing.  If I knew who that person was...","human_ref_B":"Hitting an animal doesn't show dominance, but it's a great way to completely lose an animals trust.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2516.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrgyjv","c_root_id_B":"ibrugvk","created_at_utc_A":1654800033,"created_at_utc_B":1654805845,"score_A":9,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s insane are the owners not in the room? I would looooooose it. That\u2019s such bullshit. Im sure the animals don\u2019t react well to her at all.","human_ref_B":"Hitting an animal doesn't show dominance, but it's a great way to completely lose an animals trust.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5812.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrugvk","c_root_id_B":"ibrmcdn","created_at_utc_A":1654805845,"created_at_utc_B":1654802359,"score_A":22,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hitting an animal doesn't show dominance, but it's a great way to completely lose an animals trust.","human_ref_B":"Report this abuse to the humane society","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3486.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrol4z","c_root_id_B":"ibrgyjv","created_at_utc_A":1654803329,"created_at_utc_B":1654800033,"score_A":12,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Let the clients know.  Email every single one.  Don't tell them who it was from.  Use a secure email address and hide yourself as best as possible.  Anonymous report at the very least.  That's really awful what that person's doing.  If I knew who that person was...","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s insane are the owners not in the room? I would looooooose it. That\u2019s such bullshit. Im sure the animals don\u2019t react well to her at all.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3296.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrmcdn","c_root_id_B":"ibrol4z","created_at_utc_A":1654802359,"created_at_utc_B":1654803329,"score_A":6,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Report this abuse to the humane society","human_ref_B":"Let the clients know.  Email every single one.  Don't tell them who it was from.  Use a secure email address and hide yourself as best as possible.  Anonymous report at the very least.  That's really awful what that person's doing.  If I knew who that person was...","labels":0,"seconds_difference":970.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrgyjv","c_root_id_B":"ibs1j2e","created_at_utc_A":1654800033,"created_at_utc_B":1654808893,"score_A":9,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s insane are the owners not in the room? I would looooooose it. That\u2019s such bullshit. Im sure the animals don\u2019t react well to her at all.","human_ref_B":"How old is this vet? I've heard old people say to do dumb things like that back when dogs werent allowed inside and slept outside. We know better now.  I'm really shocked a vet did this, how horrible. I would report to everyone that would listen: HR, the board, her manager, their manager, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8860.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibs1j2e","c_root_id_B":"ibrmcdn","created_at_utc_A":1654808893,"created_at_utc_B":1654802359,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"How old is this vet? I've heard old people say to do dumb things like that back when dogs werent allowed inside and slept outside. We know better now.  I'm really shocked a vet did this, how horrible. I would report to everyone that would listen: HR, the board, her manager, their manager, etc.","human_ref_B":"Report this abuse to the humane society","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6534.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibrmcdn","c_root_id_B":"ibs24jf","created_at_utc_A":1654802359,"created_at_utc_B":1654809160,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Report this abuse to the humane society","human_ref_B":"It's not okay, there are cat friendly handling techniques","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6801.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibspq6s","c_root_id_B":"ibsskzd","created_at_utc_A":1654820434,"created_at_utc_B":1654821867,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Report that vet to the board, that is abuse","human_ref_B":"An animal will not learn from positive punishment in a situation like that where they are being \u201cuncooperative\u201d because they are *scared*. These animals are not acting fractious to spite you, and if I were them I would be throwing hands if I was placed in an uncomfortable, unfamiliar environment.   It\u2019s a shame how so many DVMs and support staff still ride the stupid dominance theory chain. Dominance theory is debunked and they\u2019re fucking idiots.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1433.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibsskzd","c_root_id_B":"ibsbny3","created_at_utc_A":1654821867,"created_at_utc_B":1654813491,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"An animal will not learn from positive punishment in a situation like that where they are being \u201cuncooperative\u201d because they are *scared*. These animals are not acting fractious to spite you, and if I were them I would be throwing hands if I was placed in an uncomfortable, unfamiliar environment.   It\u2019s a shame how so many DVMs and support staff still ride the stupid dominance theory chain. Dominance theory is debunked and they\u2019re fucking idiots.","human_ref_B":"Please report her!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I can\u2019t believe no one has done anything. The people that sit back and watch and don\u2019t do anything are just as guilty.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8376.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibsskzd","c_root_id_B":"ibsh9wn","created_at_utc_A":1654821867,"created_at_utc_B":1654816193,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"An animal will not learn from positive punishment in a situation like that where they are being \u201cuncooperative\u201d because they are *scared*. These animals are not acting fractious to spite you, and if I were them I would be throwing hands if I was placed in an uncomfortable, unfamiliar environment.   It\u2019s a shame how so many DVMs and support staff still ride the stupid dominance theory chain. Dominance theory is debunked and they\u2019re fucking idiots.","human_ref_B":"A little bop on the head if your cat is being a cunt is one thing *if* the cat knows you well. But the cat probably already doesn't like the vet, so at a baseline level we're already in the net negative.  Choking the animal brings it to a whole new level of bad news in my opinion.  Yeah, not good.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5674.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibsbny3","c_root_id_B":"ibsdiw9","created_at_utc_A":1654813491,"created_at_utc_B":1654814370,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Please report her!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I can\u2019t believe no one has done anything. The people that sit back and watch and don\u2019t do anything are just as guilty.","human_ref_B":"Please please you need to report it this is abuse and so many animals are probably getting hurt by this person and it\u2019s in your hands to make sure they never hurt another animal again :(","labels":0,"seconds_difference":879.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibsfux6","c_root_id_B":"ibsbny3","created_at_utc_A":1654815498,"created_at_utc_B":1654813491,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"What vet is this so I know to literally never bring my pets there","human_ref_B":"Please report her!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I can\u2019t believe no one has done anything. The people that sit back and watch and don\u2019t do anything are just as guilty.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2007.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"v8g1ga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smacking animals to show dominance?? I work as a vet tech and this particular vet that I work with always smacks patients\u2019 (cat\/dog) head like really hard when they are being uncooperative. Had to give injections to a cat just now and this cat was being very fidgety and flinchy. Cat was moving about when this vet was restraining and she decided to hit the poor cat\u2019s head. Poor cat was hissing. Probably got shocked and I\u2019m sure it hurt!!! She always does this when she gets annoyed with uncooperative animals. She would also choke them. She mentioned before that it\u2019s to show dominance so that the animal will behave?? But somehow I feel like it\u2019s bullcrap. Is it true?? Is it something that\u2019s being taught in vet school? Honestly I feel that it\u2019s just being abusive to animals.","c_root_id_A":"ibsh9wn","c_root_id_B":"ibspq6s","created_at_utc_A":1654816193,"created_at_utc_B":1654820434,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"A little bop on the head if your cat is being a cunt is one thing *if* the cat knows you well. But the cat probably already doesn't like the vet, so at a baseline level we're already in the net negative.  Choking the animal brings it to a whole new level of bad news in my opinion.  Yeah, not good.","human_ref_B":"Report that vet to the board, that is abuse","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4241.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gldoy5s","c_root_id_B":"gldaidk","created_at_utc_A":1612024131,"created_at_utc_B":1612016341,"score_A":38,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"We got like a care package from a couple of clients who had to come in a lot with animals recently and I must say - cheese and crackers went down a treat as opposed to the classic choccies or biccies and a lovely package with nice soaps, good tea & coffee and some good hand moisturiser was actually quite touching to receive! To be honest, anything is lovely, and I love having cards from clients, especially if they're ones with pictures of their animals on!","human_ref_B":"Great gift idea! All things food always makes a vet office happy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7790.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gldsxu7","c_root_id_B":"glds9iz","created_at_utc_A":1612025959,"created_at_utc_B":1612025651,"score_A":28,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"The pizza gift card is a good idea or just have a few pizzas delivered - be sure to include a vegetarian or vegan option. Coffee and bagels would also be appreciated","human_ref_B":"Handwritten (or even typed) thank you notes and photos are always cherished. I have a box where I keep all the ones I get and it's so nice on rough days to read them. (I even have one where a client wrote a long story about how 'don't believe the rumors our cat was humanely euthanized at vets office....' followed by an elaborate story of the cats life and final battle with mice over the house. It's a little morbid but so on brand for that client and it just makes me smile every time.)   As for gifts, edible arrangements have always been highly well received as have coffee\/tea packages. It's nice to get healthy snacks too! :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":308.0,"score_ratio":1.2173913043}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gldaidk","c_root_id_B":"gldsxu7","created_at_utc_A":1612016341,"created_at_utc_B":1612025959,"score_A":10,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Great gift idea! All things food always makes a vet office happy.","human_ref_B":"The pizza gift card is a good idea or just have a few pizzas delivered - be sure to include a vegetarian or vegan option. Coffee and bagels would also be appreciated","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9618.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"glds9iz","c_root_id_B":"gldaidk","created_at_utc_A":1612025651,"created_at_utc_B":1612016341,"score_A":23,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Handwritten (or even typed) thank you notes and photos are always cherished. I have a box where I keep all the ones I get and it's so nice on rough days to read them. (I even have one where a client wrote a long story about how 'don't believe the rumors our cat was humanely euthanized at vets office....' followed by an elaborate story of the cats life and final battle with mice over the house. It's a little morbid but so on brand for that client and it just makes me smile every time.)   As for gifts, edible arrangements have always been highly well received as have coffee\/tea packages. It's nice to get healthy snacks too! :)","human_ref_B":"Great gift idea! All things food always makes a vet office happy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9310.0,"score_ratio":2.3}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gleo70u","c_root_id_B":"gleae9g","created_at_utc_A":1612040435,"created_at_utc_B":1612033896,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Healthier options preferred. We constantly get sweets on my office- so having a vegetable tray or charcuterie board is always nice!   My dad recently was in the hospital and his care team was great. We got a large veggie tray and large cheese tray from Costco for about $40 and dropped it off. Totally worth it.","human_ref_B":"The pizza gift card is seriously perfect. It doesn\u2019t exclude anyone (it\u2019s prob the most universal fast food place you could pick from) and you don\u2019t have to worry about individualizing gifts (expensive and you probably don\u2019t know EVERYONE who assisted in treating your pup. A letter and the gift card is the way to go.   One note: maybe give it to them on a week day in case the people who were working during the week and helping your pup are off on weekends?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6539.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gleae9g","c_root_id_B":"gle6cal","created_at_utc_A":1612033896,"created_at_utc_B":1612032038,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"The pizza gift card is seriously perfect. It doesn\u2019t exclude anyone (it\u2019s prob the most universal fast food place you could pick from) and you don\u2019t have to worry about individualizing gifts (expensive and you probably don\u2019t know EVERYONE who assisted in treating your pup. A letter and the gift card is the way to go.   One note: maybe give it to them on a week day in case the people who were working during the week and helping your pup are off on weekends?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve been baking and cooking for my vet and her office for years. A few months ago I brought in individually bagged servings of kettle corn and everything bagel popcorn (pop the corn, melt some butter with a clove of minced garlic, drizzle over popcorn and sprinkle with everything seasoning) and they went NUTS for it! Makes sense - if I\u2019m hungry for a snack because I\u2019m too busy for lunch, I\u2019d rather savory than sweet. That said, they\u2019ve always been psyched for anything I bring. It seems like it can be a really hard and thankless job, so any way you choose to show your appreciation will certainly be well-received!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1858.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gleo70u","c_root_id_B":"gleg3zw","created_at_utc_A":1612040435,"created_at_utc_B":1612036575,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Healthier options preferred. We constantly get sweets on my office- so having a vegetable tray or charcuterie board is always nice!   My dad recently was in the hospital and his care team was great. We got a large veggie tray and large cheese tray from Costco for about $40 and dropped it off. Totally worth it.","human_ref_B":"&#x200B;  * Thank you cards * Food \u2013 food that can be eaten by hand, doesn\u2019t require refrigeration, and is healthy is the trifecta * Reviews on Yelp, Facebook, etc\u2026 * Donations in the vet or vet\u2019s office name to local shelters, rescues, or if the vet has a caring fund for people that are having money problems * Pictures for their pet wall (if they have one)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3860.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gleg3zw","c_root_id_B":"gle6cal","created_at_utc_A":1612036575,"created_at_utc_B":1612032038,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"&#x200B;  * Thank you cards * Food \u2013 food that can be eaten by hand, doesn\u2019t require refrigeration, and is healthy is the trifecta * Reviews on Yelp, Facebook, etc\u2026 * Donations in the vet or vet\u2019s office name to local shelters, rescues, or if the vet has a caring fund for people that are having money problems * Pictures for their pet wall (if they have one)","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve been baking and cooking for my vet and her office for years. A few months ago I brought in individually bagged servings of kettle corn and everything bagel popcorn (pop the corn, melt some butter with a clove of minced garlic, drizzle over popcorn and sprinkle with everything seasoning) and they went NUTS for it! Makes sense - if I\u2019m hungry for a snack because I\u2019m too busy for lunch, I\u2019d rather savory than sweet. That said, they\u2019ve always been psyched for anything I bring. It seems like it can be a really hard and thankless job, so any way you choose to show your appreciation will certainly be well-received!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4537.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"glej8kw","c_root_id_B":"gleo70u","created_at_utc_A":1612038060,"created_at_utc_B":1612040435,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"A good review or survey response with names is a great (and free) way to show your appreciation and do some good. Some managers take these into account when it comes to bonuses or raises where applicable.   Otherwise, we love food!  In COVID times, individually wrapped or packaged foods are best because some clinics have released policies against shared food items. But otherwise, my coworkers always joke that we would be so easy to poison since we are more than happy to eat any treats we are gifted lol.","human_ref_B":"Healthier options preferred. We constantly get sweets on my office- so having a vegetable tray or charcuterie board is always nice!   My dad recently was in the hospital and his care team was great. We got a large veggie tray and large cheese tray from Costco for about $40 and dropped it off. Totally worth it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2375.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"glej8kw","c_root_id_B":"gle6cal","created_at_utc_A":1612038060,"created_at_utc_B":1612032038,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A good review or survey response with names is a great (and free) way to show your appreciation and do some good. Some managers take these into account when it comes to bonuses or raises where applicable.   Otherwise, we love food!  In COVID times, individually wrapped or packaged foods are best because some clinics have released policies against shared food items. But otherwise, my coworkers always joke that we would be so easy to poison since we are more than happy to eat any treats we are gifted lol.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve been baking and cooking for my vet and her office for years. A few months ago I brought in individually bagged servings of kettle corn and everything bagel popcorn (pop the corn, melt some butter with a clove of minced garlic, drizzle over popcorn and sprinkle with everything seasoning) and they went NUTS for it! Makes sense - if I\u2019m hungry for a snack because I\u2019m too busy for lunch, I\u2019d rather savory than sweet. That said, they\u2019ve always been psyched for anything I bring. It seems like it can be a really hard and thankless job, so any way you choose to show your appreciation will certainly be well-received!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6022.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"l8lims","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Ways to thank my vet's office for everything they've done for my dog? I apologize if this isn't the right place for this.  My Boston Terrier recently went through a week of being quite ill with constant regurgitation and lack of appetite. MANY trips to the vet's office and emergency clinic over the course of that time as his symptoms got worse and we were absolutely panicked. Yesterday, they did an endoscopy to look for a hiatal hernia and realized it was a blockage that just wasn't showing up on the X-Rays that they'd done. He had surgery and is now recovering.  Long story short, they spent A LOT of time on the phone with us and working with our dog even though they are extremely busy due to a vet shortage and COVID issues. On top of that, our usually easy-going boy is an anxious mess at the vet's office and is difficult to work with. I'm SO grateful to the staff for being so kind and taking such good care of our pup and I want to express my appreciation.  A thank you card is a given -- but I was also thinking about sending along a $50 gift card to a popular local pizza restaurant so that the office can buy themselves lunch (I figure $50 can buy a lot of pizza and it's not a big office).  Thoughts on this? What kinds of gifts have you received from clients that you really loved?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gleo70u","c_root_id_B":"gle6cal","created_at_utc_A":1612040435,"created_at_utc_B":1612032038,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Healthier options preferred. We constantly get sweets on my office- so having a vegetable tray or charcuterie board is always nice!   My dad recently was in the hospital and his care team was great. We got a large veggie tray and large cheese tray from Costco for about $40 and dropped it off. Totally worth it.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve been baking and cooking for my vet and her office for years. A few months ago I brought in individually bagged servings of kettle corn and everything bagel popcorn (pop the corn, melt some butter with a clove of minced garlic, drizzle over popcorn and sprinkle with everything seasoning) and they went NUTS for it! Makes sense - if I\u2019m hungry for a snack because I\u2019m too busy for lunch, I\u2019d rather savory than sweet. That said, they\u2019ve always been psyched for anything I bring. It seems like it can be a really hard and thankless job, so any way you choose to show your appreciation will certainly be well-received!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8397.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"u3eun7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog just died, but I think it was because of her vet. My foxterrier dog (12f), died a few hours ago.  About 3 days ago I took my dog to a well recommended vet. She had no problems (no pain etc), but she did have a lump in her stomach. So I thought it would be best to get it checked out before anything bad happens.   When I arrived at the vet he took her to one of his rooms. I accompanied him and my dog. He proceeded to explain what he was going to do. Basically he said he was going to do a fine needle aspiration to sample the lump. He then inserted the fine needle into the area. But later on he decided that he will need a bigger needle for whatever reason. He then grabbed a needle about the size of those for which you draw blood on humans, much bigger than the one before. When he used that needle, my dog yelped and whined loudly. A stream of blood sprayed out of the lump which he took in for tests. He prescribed painkillers and antibiotics, recommending that we should give it to her. I then took my dog home.   She was not the same after that. She kept whimpering about the pain and when I wanted to rub her belly she bit me. I knew something was very wrong when she started to vomit uncontrollably. For 2 days straight my dog could not eat properly and her pain seemed to increase. The antibiotics and pain meds the vet gave were doing nothing. And like I said, there was absolutely nothing wrong with her before the procedure. No pain, no voming, no nothing. On the second day (today) my dog was unresponsive. Her eyes were not moving and she had no movement whatsoever in her body.   I took her to a different vet where she unfortunately died within a few hours. He thinks the other vet committed malpractice. What are your thoughts on this?","c_root_id_A":"i4oot5p","c_root_id_B":"i4os5yq","created_at_utc_A":1649934108,"created_at_utc_B":1649936280,"score_A":3,"score_B":207,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry for your loss but a fine needle aspirate is a perfectly normal first diagnostic step for a mass.   If you want to understand your dog's cause of death the only course of action is to have a necropsy done.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2172.0,"score_ratio":69.0}
{"post_id":"u3eun7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog just died, but I think it was because of her vet. My foxterrier dog (12f), died a few hours ago.  About 3 days ago I took my dog to a well recommended vet. She had no problems (no pain etc), but she did have a lump in her stomach. So I thought it would be best to get it checked out before anything bad happens.   When I arrived at the vet he took her to one of his rooms. I accompanied him and my dog. He proceeded to explain what he was going to do. Basically he said he was going to do a fine needle aspiration to sample the lump. He then inserted the fine needle into the area. But later on he decided that he will need a bigger needle for whatever reason. He then grabbed a needle about the size of those for which you draw blood on humans, much bigger than the one before. When he used that needle, my dog yelped and whined loudly. A stream of blood sprayed out of the lump which he took in for tests. He prescribed painkillers and antibiotics, recommending that we should give it to her. I then took my dog home.   She was not the same after that. She kept whimpering about the pain and when I wanted to rub her belly she bit me. I knew something was very wrong when she started to vomit uncontrollably. For 2 days straight my dog could not eat properly and her pain seemed to increase. The antibiotics and pain meds the vet gave were doing nothing. And like I said, there was absolutely nothing wrong with her before the procedure. No pain, no voming, no nothing. On the second day (today) my dog was unresponsive. Her eyes were not moving and she had no movement whatsoever in her body.   I took her to a different vet where she unfortunately died within a few hours. He thinks the other vet committed malpractice. What are your thoughts on this?","c_root_id_A":"i4oot5p","c_root_id_B":"i4oxg0r","created_at_utc_A":1649934108,"created_at_utc_B":1649939281,"score_A":3,"score_B":195,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Even \"blood draw\" needles would not be large enough to cause the death of a dog. I'm very sorry for your loss, but as the other commenter said, the only way to know what caused the dogs death would be an autopsy. Blood coming out of a mass like that in a 12 year old dog would only make me think of a grave prognosis in general.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5173.0,"score_ratio":65.0}
{"post_id":"u3eun7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog just died, but I think it was because of her vet. My foxterrier dog (12f), died a few hours ago.  About 3 days ago I took my dog to a well recommended vet. She had no problems (no pain etc), but she did have a lump in her stomach. So I thought it would be best to get it checked out before anything bad happens.   When I arrived at the vet he took her to one of his rooms. I accompanied him and my dog. He proceeded to explain what he was going to do. Basically he said he was going to do a fine needle aspiration to sample the lump. He then inserted the fine needle into the area. But later on he decided that he will need a bigger needle for whatever reason. He then grabbed a needle about the size of those for which you draw blood on humans, much bigger than the one before. When he used that needle, my dog yelped and whined loudly. A stream of blood sprayed out of the lump which he took in for tests. He prescribed painkillers and antibiotics, recommending that we should give it to her. I then took my dog home.   She was not the same after that. She kept whimpering about the pain and when I wanted to rub her belly she bit me. I knew something was very wrong when she started to vomit uncontrollably. For 2 days straight my dog could not eat properly and her pain seemed to increase. The antibiotics and pain meds the vet gave were doing nothing. And like I said, there was absolutely nothing wrong with her before the procedure. No pain, no voming, no nothing. On the second day (today) my dog was unresponsive. Her eyes were not moving and she had no movement whatsoever in her body.   I took her to a different vet where she unfortunately died within a few hours. He thinks the other vet committed malpractice. What are your thoughts on this?","c_root_id_A":"i4pau4e","c_root_id_B":"i4oot5p","created_at_utc_A":1649945524,"created_at_utc_B":1649934108,"score_A":45,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss. It's part of the diagnostic procedure to get a needle aspirate to determine the lump. It will be unfair to you as a client to not do an aspirate if your primary complaint is a lump. If you really seek closure, please request for a necropsy so you will find out the real cause of death. Please be fair on your vet as well as no one would like to be the cause of a patient's death due to malpractice. I understand how bad you feel but please also be fair to your vet. I'm sure that your fur baby would also like you to have peace of mind.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11416.0,"score_ratio":15.0}
{"post_id":"h7e6x8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My puppy howled as he was euthanized Awhile back, we got a puppy, JackJack, that was suffering from a severe infection that spread to his brain and couldn\u2019t be stopped with antibiotics. This experience was traumatic for our whole family. There\u2019s a part of me that\u2019s angry with the vet for the treatment he gave our puppy. The breed was highly susceptible to seizures and the vet refused to give him an anti-seizure medication along with the two forms of antibiotics he was on. We called the vet when our puppy started having seizures, and he said to keep giving him the antibiotics and to come in the next day. By the next day, he had had so many seizures that he wasn\u2019t able to keep any foods or liquid down for hours, and he became unresponsive. When we took him to the vet, the vet said that the only option was to put him to sleep. When our puppy was euthanized, he opening his eyes for the first time in hours, looked at me in panic, and howled as loud as he could until there was no life left.  I feel as this experience was really unprofessional on the vet\u2019s part. Is this just my trauma causing me to want to place anger somewhere or does this seem unusual?  *tl;dr: puppy howled as he died after being unresponsive for hours. Is this normal?*","c_root_id_A":"ful4kqf","c_root_id_B":"ful5dca","created_at_utc_A":1591960142,"created_at_utc_B":1591960845,"score_A":100,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"I can\u2019t say I have ever seen anything like that during a euthanasia.  Many pets do struggle but it generally isn\u2019t because the euthanasia process is painful. The drug used is called pentobarbital (also an seizure medication) which in large amounts quickly renders the animal unconscious. In most situations it is quick and painless.  As far as JackJacks\u2019s treatment goes, it\u2019s hard to comment as to why the vet offered the treatment he did and why the seizure medication was refused. Without knowing what tests were done, what the diagnosis was and what treatment options were available no one could say what they would of done differently.  Losing a pet is traumatic at the best of times let alone under such awful circumstances so it is understandable you want some answers.","human_ref_B":"INFO: did your vet explain why he didn\u2019t want to prescribe anti seizure meds? Which antibiotics was your puppy on? Did the sedate him before euthanasia?   This is an all around horrendous experience, OP. I\u2019m so sorry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":703.0,"score_ratio":1.44}
{"post_id":"pv79ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Did I kill my puppy by crate training it? This morning, our 9 week old Golden Retriever (M) died very suddenly in his kennel.  We had him in his crate while we were training him to be okay in there which meant he was barking and crying and we ignored him (as we were told by his trainer).  After about 15 mins of being in there, the barking stopped and we smelled poo so we went in to get him cleaned up and he was dead.  Blood was coming from his snout and mouth, nothing we could see in his throat... Did we induce a heart attack or an aneurysm or something?  Was this inevitable?  I guess I'm just hoping someone can tell me that these things happen and that I didn't do something to kill my dog.  He was training to be a service dog and showed absolutely no symptoms of anything and cleared his first check ups just fine.  He was completely happy and healthy all the way up to this morning.","c_root_id_A":"he9gqqi","c_root_id_B":"he9less","created_at_utc_A":1632601807,"created_at_utc_B":1632603872,"score_A":2,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Im so sorry that sounds extremely traumatic. My suggestion if you could afford it would be to try and get a necropsy to find out exactly what caused your puppy's death. Perhaps it was something genetic that the breeder needs to be made aware of to watch for in other puppies. But no, there are many causes of death but as far as I'm aware, death by crate training has never been one","human_ref_B":"Please have a necropsy done.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2065.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"pv79ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Did I kill my puppy by crate training it? This morning, our 9 week old Golden Retriever (M) died very suddenly in his kennel.  We had him in his crate while we were training him to be okay in there which meant he was barking and crying and we ignored him (as we were told by his trainer).  After about 15 mins of being in there, the barking stopped and we smelled poo so we went in to get him cleaned up and he was dead.  Blood was coming from his snout and mouth, nothing we could see in his throat... Did we induce a heart attack or an aneurysm or something?  Was this inevitable?  I guess I'm just hoping someone can tell me that these things happen and that I didn't do something to kill my dog.  He was training to be a service dog and showed absolutely no symptoms of anything and cleared his first check ups just fine.  He was completely happy and healthy all the way up to this morning.","c_root_id_A":"he9gqqi","c_root_id_B":"he9idqj","created_at_utc_A":1632601807,"created_at_utc_B":1632602520,"score_A":2,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Im so sorry that sounds extremely traumatic. My suggestion if you could afford it would be to try and get a necropsy to find out exactly what caused your puppy's death. Perhaps it was something genetic that the breeder needs to be made aware of to watch for in other puppies. But no, there are many causes of death but as far as I'm aware, death by crate training has never been one","human_ref_B":"the dog died this morning and a autopsy already?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":713.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"pv79ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Did I kill my puppy by crate training it? This morning, our 9 week old Golden Retriever (M) died very suddenly in his kennel.  We had him in his crate while we were training him to be okay in there which meant he was barking and crying and we ignored him (as we were told by his trainer).  After about 15 mins of being in there, the barking stopped and we smelled poo so we went in to get him cleaned up and he was dead.  Blood was coming from his snout and mouth, nothing we could see in his throat... Did we induce a heart attack or an aneurysm or something?  Was this inevitable?  I guess I'm just hoping someone can tell me that these things happen and that I didn't do something to kill my dog.  He was training to be a service dog and showed absolutely no symptoms of anything and cleared his first check ups just fine.  He was completely happy and healthy all the way up to this morning.","c_root_id_A":"he9lifz","c_root_id_B":"he9gqqi","created_at_utc_A":1632603919,"created_at_utc_B":1632601807,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Tons of people start crating training pup\u2019s at 8 weeks.  Tons of people let their pup whine for 15 mins.  And those dogs are just fine.  This was just a freak thing of Mother Nature, absolutely nothing you could or should have done differently.  I\u2019m really sorry it happened.","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry that sounds extremely traumatic. My suggestion if you could afford it would be to try and get a necropsy to find out exactly what caused your puppy's death. Perhaps it was something genetic that the breeder needs to be made aware of to watch for in other puppies. But no, there are many causes of death but as far as I'm aware, death by crate training has never been one","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2112.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"pv79ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Did I kill my puppy by crate training it? This morning, our 9 week old Golden Retriever (M) died very suddenly in his kennel.  We had him in his crate while we were training him to be okay in there which meant he was barking and crying and we ignored him (as we were told by his trainer).  After about 15 mins of being in there, the barking stopped and we smelled poo so we went in to get him cleaned up and he was dead.  Blood was coming from his snout and mouth, nothing we could see in his throat... Did we induce a heart attack or an aneurysm or something?  Was this inevitable?  I guess I'm just hoping someone can tell me that these things happen and that I didn't do something to kill my dog.  He was training to be a service dog and showed absolutely no symptoms of anything and cleared his first check ups just fine.  He was completely happy and healthy all the way up to this morning.","c_root_id_A":"he9gqqi","c_root_id_B":"he9ybc7","created_at_utc_A":1632601807,"created_at_utc_B":1632609932,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Im so sorry that sounds extremely traumatic. My suggestion if you could afford it would be to try and get a necropsy to find out exactly what caused your puppy's death. Perhaps it was something genetic that the breeder needs to be made aware of to watch for in other puppies. But no, there are many causes of death but as far as I'm aware, death by crate training has never been one","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry. What a horrific thing to have happen. I\u2019m not a vet, but it sounds as if your pup had a preexisting condition.   Please make the breeder aware. These parents should NOT be bred again if two puppies died of heart issues.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8125.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4hk1y7","c_root_id_B":"g4i5q03","created_at_utc_A":1599603498,"created_at_utc_B":1599615316,"score_A":97,"score_B":147,"human_ref_A":"My heart!! I\u2019m sorry you\u2019ve had to carry this regret all these years. I\u2019m not familiar with the procedure, or the pitch you heard, but *maybe* it was her sigh of relief of having the pain lifted. Godspeed OP","human_ref_B":"Yes.    Sadly it can just be a normal part of euthanasia.    Also I\u2019d like to add because she had issues with her lungs that may have been a factor.  Basically Pentobarbital quickly stops the heart and respiratory system, it\u2019s almost like an overdose of anesthetic so in general it\u2019s quite pain free.    You made the right decisions, but I\u2019m sorry they have stayed with you so long.    There was nothing you did, nor probably was pain involved.    Just the last reflexes of the body.     I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11818.0,"score_ratio":1.5154639175}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i5q03","c_root_id_B":"g4hrn12","created_at_utc_A":1599615316,"created_at_utc_B":1599607433,"score_A":147,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Yes.    Sadly it can just be a normal part of euthanasia.    Also I\u2019d like to add because she had issues with her lungs that may have been a factor.  Basically Pentobarbital quickly stops the heart and respiratory system, it\u2019s almost like an overdose of anesthetic so in general it\u2019s quite pain free.    You made the right decisions, but I\u2019m sorry they have stayed with you so long.    There was nothing you did, nor probably was pain involved.    Just the last reflexes of the body.     I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Do you remember the drug they gave her? Maybe this could answer your question.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7883.0,"score_ratio":4.9}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i5q03","c_root_id_B":"g4i3mr3","created_at_utc_A":1599615316,"created_at_utc_B":1599614176,"score_A":147,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Yes.    Sadly it can just be a normal part of euthanasia.    Also I\u2019d like to add because she had issues with her lungs that may have been a factor.  Basically Pentobarbital quickly stops the heart and respiratory system, it\u2019s almost like an overdose of anesthetic so in general it\u2019s quite pain free.    You made the right decisions, but I\u2019m sorry they have stayed with you so long.    There was nothing you did, nor probably was pain involved.    Just the last reflexes of the body.     I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss and this pain you\u2019re still carrying but choosing to put your cat down was a far better option than letting it die from cancer. It would have been far more painful and scary. My brother is a vet and that\u2019s what he always says.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1140.0,"score_ratio":6.6818181818}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i5q03","c_root_id_B":"g4hcbco","created_at_utc_A":1599615316,"created_at_utc_B":1599600041,"score_A":147,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Yes.    Sadly it can just be a normal part of euthanasia.    Also I\u2019d like to add because she had issues with her lungs that may have been a factor.  Basically Pentobarbital quickly stops the heart and respiratory system, it\u2019s almost like an overdose of anesthetic so in general it\u2019s quite pain free.    You made the right decisions, but I\u2019m sorry they have stayed with you so long.    There was nothing you did, nor probably was pain involved.    Just the last reflexes of the body.     I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I think you made a considerate choice and you shouldn\u2019t beat yourself up because of it.  Euthanasia isn\u2019t painful and usually they actually sedate the animal before the lethal injection.  You were with her for her last moments and I\u2019m absolutely sure she was so grateful you were there to bring her comfort. You made everything you could to make sure she was as comfortable as possible and you are amazing for that.  Please be kind to yourself and always remember that you gave her the best life and allowed her to go peacefully without meds that could have made her feel really bad.  I feel for you and hope you find some comfort.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15275.0,"score_ratio":18.375}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4hcbco","c_root_id_B":"g4hk1y7","created_at_utc_A":1599600041,"created_at_utc_B":1599603498,"score_A":8,"score_B":97,"human_ref_A":"I think you made a considerate choice and you shouldn\u2019t beat yourself up because of it.  Euthanasia isn\u2019t painful and usually they actually sedate the animal before the lethal injection.  You were with her for her last moments and I\u2019m absolutely sure she was so grateful you were there to bring her comfort. You made everything you could to make sure she was as comfortable as possible and you are amazing for that.  Please be kind to yourself and always remember that you gave her the best life and allowed her to go peacefully without meds that could have made her feel really bad.  I feel for you and hope you find some comfort.","human_ref_B":"My heart!! I\u2019m sorry you\u2019ve had to carry this regret all these years. I\u2019m not familiar with the procedure, or the pitch you heard, but *maybe* it was her sigh of relief of having the pain lifted. Godspeed OP","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3457.0,"score_ratio":12.125}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i8utt","c_root_id_B":"g4hrn12","created_at_utc_A":1599617069,"created_at_utc_B":1599607433,"score_A":53,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Yes, it is possible for vocalizations or what can appear to be gasping(its not them actually gasping). It does NOT mean your pet was in pain. The medications used are sedatives, so they let the body relax.","human_ref_B":"Do you remember the drug they gave her? Maybe this could answer your question.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9636.0,"score_ratio":1.7666666667}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i8utt","c_root_id_B":"g4i3mr3","created_at_utc_A":1599617069,"created_at_utc_B":1599614176,"score_A":53,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Yes, it is possible for vocalizations or what can appear to be gasping(its not them actually gasping). It does NOT mean your pet was in pain. The medications used are sedatives, so they let the body relax.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss and this pain you\u2019re still carrying but choosing to put your cat down was a far better option than letting it die from cancer. It would have been far more painful and scary. My brother is a vet and that\u2019s what he always says.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2893.0,"score_ratio":2.4090909091}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i8utt","c_root_id_B":"g4hcbco","created_at_utc_A":1599617069,"created_at_utc_B":1599600041,"score_A":53,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Yes, it is possible for vocalizations or what can appear to be gasping(its not them actually gasping). It does NOT mean your pet was in pain. The medications used are sedatives, so they let the body relax.","human_ref_B":"I think you made a considerate choice and you shouldn\u2019t beat yourself up because of it.  Euthanasia isn\u2019t painful and usually they actually sedate the animal before the lethal injection.  You were with her for her last moments and I\u2019m absolutely sure she was so grateful you were there to bring her comfort. You made everything you could to make sure she was as comfortable as possible and you are amazing for that.  Please be kind to yourself and always remember that you gave her the best life and allowed her to go peacefully without meds that could have made her feel really bad.  I feel for you and hope you find some comfort.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17028.0,"score_ratio":6.625}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4hcbco","c_root_id_B":"g4hrn12","created_at_utc_A":1599600041,"created_at_utc_B":1599607433,"score_A":8,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"I think you made a considerate choice and you shouldn\u2019t beat yourself up because of it.  Euthanasia isn\u2019t painful and usually they actually sedate the animal before the lethal injection.  You were with her for her last moments and I\u2019m absolutely sure she was so grateful you were there to bring her comfort. You made everything you could to make sure she was as comfortable as possible and you are amazing for that.  Please be kind to yourself and always remember that you gave her the best life and allowed her to go peacefully without meds that could have made her feel really bad.  I feel for you and hope you find some comfort.","human_ref_B":"Do you remember the drug they gave her? Maybe this could answer your question.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7392.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"ip16kb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is it normal for your animal to cry out when being put down? So this question has been bugging me for 2 years now. About 3 years ago my childhood cat and best friend was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer at 13  that spread to her lymph nodes. I did everything to try to help her, I had the mass removed and 6 months later the vet actually offered to send us to a chemo specialist because she seemed to be doing a lot better than they had expected. I did opt out of it because I wanted her last days to be nice and relaxing, and I knew the chemo would make her sick. About a week later she turned for the worse. The cancer had spread to her lungs and I knew it was her time to go. When the vet had administered the medication to stop her heart, everything was in slow motion. I watched it go through the catheter up into her arm and... she... screamed. She screamed out and I was HOLDING her so I was so startled and taken aback. She cried out and slumped down into my arms and that was it. Honestly the sound haunts me. Did it hurt her? Did I hurt her by making the choice to have her be put down? Two years have gone by since then and I'm still in agony thinking I caused her any sort of pain. Should I have taken her to the chemo specialist?","c_root_id_A":"g4i3mr3","c_root_id_B":"g4hcbco","created_at_utc_A":1599614176,"created_at_utc_B":1599600041,"score_A":22,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss and this pain you\u2019re still carrying but choosing to put your cat down was a far better option than letting it die from cancer. It would have been far more painful and scary. My brother is a vet and that\u2019s what he always says.","human_ref_B":"I think you made a considerate choice and you shouldn\u2019t beat yourself up because of it.  Euthanasia isn\u2019t painful and usually they actually sedate the animal before the lethal injection.  You were with her for her last moments and I\u2019m absolutely sure she was so grateful you were there to bring her comfort. You made everything you could to make sure she was as comfortable as possible and you are amazing for that.  Please be kind to yourself and always remember that you gave her the best life and allowed her to go peacefully without meds that could have made her feel really bad.  I feel for you and hope you find some comfort.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14135.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"8syt6w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Extremely happy update!!! Dog ALMOST was euthanized Monday morning. Link to original: https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/8rx6cg\/my_dog_is_gonna_be_put_to_sleep_tomorrow_morning  I honestly don't know what kind of miracle happened overnight Sunday night but we woke up and my dog was interested in food again and was holding her head up. I cancelled her euthanasia appointment and decided to give treatment one more shot with our regular DVM. Our vet was so understanding and hospitalized her on fluids Monday and Tuesday for $60!!! I picked her up from the hospital on Tuesday evening and I'm not kidding she was smiling, wagging her tail, and eating!!! They think she had severe pancreatitis and\/or hemorrhagic gastroenteritis. She's home now and she's doing phenomenal. I'll never take her for granted ever again. I'm so thankful we didn't give up. I got the whole office the Starbucks gift card cookies and card and hugged (while crying) our veterinarian.","c_root_id_A":"e13nmup","c_root_id_B":"e13jwv5","created_at_utc_A":1529664793,"created_at_utc_B":1529656918,"score_A":9,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am so glad to hear this! I remember seeing your post the other day, so glad she\u2019s come good and I hope she continues to be well!","human_ref_B":"What a lovely update!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7875.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbe3ylq","c_root_id_B":"gbe1rsf","created_at_utc_A":1604699764,"created_at_utc_B":1604698681,"score_A":54,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"I had a vet come to my house when we put our dog down. It was pricey but worth it.","human_ref_B":"Yes, there is. Where do you live?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1083.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbeclj9","c_root_id_B":"gbecgjz","created_at_utc_A":1604704224,"created_at_utc_B":1604704149,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes, many vets do offer this service. You'll have to check with your regular vet to see if they will be able to do this for you firstly because of any current COVID restrictions, and secondly because a vet needs extra time booked off in their schedule in comparison to a regular appointment, to account for the time it takes to get to and from your house. Best to call your vet ASAP to see if they can accommodate this, the sooner you call the more likely they will be able to make it happen.","human_ref_B":"Just a heads up that while yes as other comments state this is common practice in lots of areas, currently with COVID you might have to ring around to find places. I know my practice and a lot in my area are not doing home visits of any kind because of the Covid rules :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":75.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbebp1l","c_root_id_B":"gbeclj9","created_at_utc_A":1604703738,"created_at_utc_B":1604704224,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"You can certainly have a mobile vet come to your home to do the service. Just call around to some clinics and ask! \u2764\ufe0f much love to your dad","human_ref_B":"Yes, many vets do offer this service. You'll have to check with your regular vet to see if they will be able to do this for you firstly because of any current COVID restrictions, and secondly because a vet needs extra time booked off in their schedule in comparison to a regular appointment, to account for the time it takes to get to and from your house. Best to call your vet ASAP to see if they can accommodate this, the sooner you call the more likely they will be able to make it happen.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":486.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbe8mmd","c_root_id_B":"gbeclj9","created_at_utc_A":1604702146,"created_at_utc_B":1604704224,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I personally had a vet come out to put down my dog, I googled it and surprisingly found quite a few in my area that were willing to drive far distances. (I\u2019m in US). It was quite expensive but worth every penny to be able to hold my dog and be there for him. We were not going to be allowed to do this at the vet due to quarantine. He also was extremely calm due to being at home. Definitely recommend and feel free to ask any questions. Hope it goes well and I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Yes, many vets do offer this service. You'll have to check with your regular vet to see if they will be able to do this for you firstly because of any current COVID restrictions, and secondly because a vet needs extra time booked off in their schedule in comparison to a regular appointment, to account for the time it takes to get to and from your house. Best to call your vet ASAP to see if they can accommodate this, the sooner you call the more likely they will be able to make it happen.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2078.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbecgjz","c_root_id_B":"gbedqp4","created_at_utc_A":1604704149,"created_at_utc_B":1604704839,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Just a heads up that while yes as other comments state this is common practice in lots of areas, currently with COVID you might have to ring around to find places. I know my practice and a lot in my area are not doing home visits of any kind because of the Covid rules :(","human_ref_B":"Absolutely they can\/will. Two months ago my MIL had her dane put down in her home (age&poor breeding he was a byb rescue). Just check around for accommodations.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":690.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbe8mmd","c_root_id_B":"gbecgjz","created_at_utc_A":1604702146,"created_at_utc_B":1604704149,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I personally had a vet come out to put down my dog, I googled it and surprisingly found quite a few in my area that were willing to drive far distances. (I\u2019m in US). It was quite expensive but worth every penny to be able to hold my dog and be there for him. We were not going to be allowed to do this at the vet due to quarantine. He also was extremely calm due to being at home. Definitely recommend and feel free to ask any questions. Hope it goes well and I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Just a heads up that while yes as other comments state this is common practice in lots of areas, currently with COVID you might have to ring around to find places. I know my practice and a lot in my area are not doing home visits of any kind because of the Covid rules :(","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2003.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbedqp4","c_root_id_B":"gbebp1l","created_at_utc_A":1604704839,"created_at_utc_B":1604703738,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely they can\/will. Two months ago my MIL had her dane put down in her home (age&poor breeding he was a byb rescue). Just check around for accommodations.","human_ref_B":"You can certainly have a mobile vet come to your home to do the service. Just call around to some clinics and ask! \u2764\ufe0f much love to your dad","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1101.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbe8mmd","c_root_id_B":"gbebp1l","created_at_utc_A":1604702146,"created_at_utc_B":1604703738,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I personally had a vet come out to put down my dog, I googled it and surprisingly found quite a few in my area that were willing to drive far distances. (I\u2019m in US). It was quite expensive but worth every penny to be able to hold my dog and be there for him. We were not going to be allowed to do this at the vet due to quarantine. He also was extremely calm due to being at home. Definitely recommend and feel free to ask any questions. Hope it goes well and I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"You can certainly have a mobile vet come to your home to do the service. Just call around to some clinics and ask! \u2764\ufe0f much love to your dad","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1592.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbedqp4","c_root_id_B":"gbe8mmd","created_at_utc_A":1604704839,"created_at_utc_B":1604702146,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely they can\/will. Two months ago my MIL had her dane put down in her home (age&poor breeding he was a byb rescue). Just check around for accommodations.","human_ref_B":"I personally had a vet come out to put down my dog, I googled it and surprisingly found quite a few in my area that were willing to drive far distances. (I\u2019m in US). It was quite expensive but worth every penny to be able to hold my dog and be there for him. We were not going to be allowed to do this at the vet due to quarantine. He also was extremely calm due to being at home. Definitely recommend and feel free to ask any questions. Hope it goes well and I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2693.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbedqp4","c_root_id_B":"gbeczqr","created_at_utc_A":1604704839,"created_at_utc_B":1604704436,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely they can\/will. Two months ago my MIL had her dane put down in her home (age&poor breeding he was a byb rescue). Just check around for accommodations.","human_ref_B":"The Ralph Site provides support for pet loss for those in UK, I think they have resources for what you're looking for.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":403.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbetbv7","c_root_id_B":"gbe8mmd","created_at_utc_A":1604713609,"created_at_utc_B":1604702146,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes, some vets will do this. Everyone who loves animals shares your grief","human_ref_B":"I personally had a vet come out to put down my dog, I googled it and surprisingly found quite a few in my area that were willing to drive far distances. (I\u2019m in US). It was quite expensive but worth every penny to be able to hold my dog and be there for him. We were not going to be allowed to do this at the vet due to quarantine. He also was extremely calm due to being at home. Definitely recommend and feel free to ask any questions. Hope it goes well and I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11463.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"jpdcr5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog is being put down on Wednesday, is there any chance a vet could come to my house and do it? Yeah, my dog is being out done on Wednesday and although it will be extremely painful, we\u2019d rather he get put down in a place where he\u2019s comfortable, surrounded by people he loves  I really don\u2019t want to have my dad take him to the vet by himself but I\u2019d that currently the only option?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"gbetbv7","c_root_id_B":"gbeczqr","created_at_utc_A":1604713609,"created_at_utc_B":1604704436,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes, some vets will do this. Everyone who loves animals shares your grief","human_ref_B":"The Ralph Site provides support for pet loss for those in UK, I think they have resources for what you're looking for.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9173.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"cpvxgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"No Advice Needed: A simple way to see if there is Blue Green Algae in water Please remove of this isn\u2019t allowed. We are going hiking in the NE US this weekend with our dogs and I was worried about blue green algae that has sadly killed some dogs in other regions. It can be in almost any climate that we frequent, and was looking for some easy ways to test water to lessen their chances of exposure.   For those in the US, the US Geological Survey has put some test buoys in some lakes to monitor water quality and alert to increases in blue green algae link    If you are concerned and don\u2019t have access to a water test kit, the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency published this guide for a no-cost way to test for blue green algae.   DISCLAIMER: I am not saying this is a foolproof method and you should always follow any local announcements or closures over testing yourself, but I thought this would be helpful for those that may want to venture out with their animals as safely as they can.","c_root_id_A":"ewrys6n","c_root_id_B":"ewry2jn","created_at_utc_A":1565716651,"created_at_utc_B":1565716221,"score_A":29,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Ooh, neat! Post this to \/r\/Veterinary too if you can","human_ref_B":"This is great info, thank you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":430.0,"score_ratio":5.8}
{"post_id":"cpvxgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"No Advice Needed: A simple way to see if there is Blue Green Algae in water Please remove of this isn\u2019t allowed. We are going hiking in the NE US this weekend with our dogs and I was worried about blue green algae that has sadly killed some dogs in other regions. It can be in almost any climate that we frequent, and was looking for some easy ways to test water to lessen their chances of exposure.   For those in the US, the US Geological Survey has put some test buoys in some lakes to monitor water quality and alert to increases in blue green algae link    If you are concerned and don\u2019t have access to a water test kit, the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency published this guide for a no-cost way to test for blue green algae.   DISCLAIMER: I am not saying this is a foolproof method and you should always follow any local announcements or closures over testing yourself, but I thought this would be helpful for those that may want to venture out with their animals as safely as they can.","c_root_id_A":"ewry2jn","c_root_id_B":"ews7b77","created_at_utc_A":1565716221,"created_at_utc_B":1565721679,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"This is great info, thank you.","human_ref_B":"Great info! Thanks for sharing. With all the news about those losing pets so suddenly it is very scary.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5458.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etobwrs","c_root_id_B":"etotdco","created_at_utc_A":1563022692,"created_at_utc_B":1563037084,"score_A":13,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for what happened. Were you not present during the euthanasia?","human_ref_B":"I would start by simply contacting the veterinarian first, and asking to speak to someone *besides* the front desk worker who is going to answer the phone.  (If you can handle yourself well, I recommend actually going in and speaking face-to-face, as people tend to be less of an \\*\\*\\*hole when they can see you.)  The billing may have been an error or oversight, and if this is a larger clinic, your cat may have been handled by a bunch of techs who never communicated to each other why the cat was there in the first place.  Make sure you are talking to a *veterinarian* who has decision-making capabilities for that office and not just someone they send to deal with you.  Express your concerns and ask them to take care of the bill -- it's the least they can do since they ignored your service request that you were actually going to pay for. (And to be honest, it's pretty unusual to charge people for bites during treatment -- it's not your responsibility to train vet techs in how to safely handle animals in their care.)  If they dig in or treat you unkindly, don't lash out at them. As you already know, that won't fix things. You only have two options after that:  lawsuit to recover the hundred dollars and any money you already paid for cremation\/prints, or hitting them right in the social media\/reviews.  If you're in the US, you can do the first option without a lawyer by going a filing for a civil suit with your county court.  You will have to pay a nominal fee to open this and have everything ready to go. You may not get much back out of this, especially if the fee to open to suit is as much as what you're suing for, but it's the civil way to essentially punch them in the face.  The latter option is something you should do after careful consideration if opening a suit isn't for you.  If you go with this, never *vent* or write like a crazy person, just state what happened and how it was handled.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14392.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etotdco","c_root_id_B":"etoa3n6","created_at_utc_A":1563037084,"created_at_utc_B":1563020725,"score_A":14,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I would start by simply contacting the veterinarian first, and asking to speak to someone *besides* the front desk worker who is going to answer the phone.  (If you can handle yourself well, I recommend actually going in and speaking face-to-face, as people tend to be less of an \\*\\*\\*hole when they can see you.)  The billing may have been an error or oversight, and if this is a larger clinic, your cat may have been handled by a bunch of techs who never communicated to each other why the cat was there in the first place.  Make sure you are talking to a *veterinarian* who has decision-making capabilities for that office and not just someone they send to deal with you.  Express your concerns and ask them to take care of the bill -- it's the least they can do since they ignored your service request that you were actually going to pay for. (And to be honest, it's pretty unusual to charge people for bites during treatment -- it's not your responsibility to train vet techs in how to safely handle animals in their care.)  If they dig in or treat you unkindly, don't lash out at them. As you already know, that won't fix things. You only have two options after that:  lawsuit to recover the hundred dollars and any money you already paid for cremation\/prints, or hitting them right in the social media\/reviews.  If you're in the US, you can do the first option without a lawyer by going a filing for a civil suit with your county court.  You will have to pay a nominal fee to open this and have everything ready to go. You may not get much back out of this, especially if the fee to open to suit is as much as what you're suing for, but it's the civil way to essentially punch them in the face.  The latter option is something you should do after careful consideration if opening a suit isn't for you.  If you go with this, never *vent* or write like a crazy person, just state what happened and how it was handled.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry this happened to you guys. I know that you will find another way to honor your cat. It sounds like she was very special to you.    Here are the codes your city must follow. IANAL, but in a nutshell, it looks like any bite has to be reported. The animal then must go to animal control. The owner may be charged for this quarantine. If it died while in quarantine, the animal will be submitted for rabies testing. It sounds like this was out of the control of your vets office, and the lack of paw prints was either not feasible or an oversight. I\u2019m very sorry.    7.08.220 Animal bites - Quarantine, violations and examinations. A. Any person having knowledge that any animal is known to have or is believed to have bitten any person shall immediately report the basis for such knowledge or belief to the animal services division.   B. On receipt of such report, an animal services officer shall seize and quarantine such animal for a period of fourteen days or such other period as may be prescribed by state law. The animal services officer may order the owner to quarantine the animal on the owner's premises.   C. No person shall fail, refuse or neglect to quarantine any animal as ordered by the animal services officer, or refuse to allow the animal services officer to inspect any private premises where the animal is kept. No animal shall be removed or released from the quarantine location during the quarantine period without written permission of the animal services officer.   D. The animal services division may charge a fee as set forth by resolution of the city council, for the costs of quarantining animals and inspections for quarantine of animals. Any fee charged shall be paid by the owner or person who has legal custody of the animal. Such a fee shall be in addition to the actual cost of the animal services division in housing, feeding and otherwise caring for a quarantined animal.   E. The head of any animal that dies or is destroyed while under quarantine shall be submitted to the laboratory of the county health department for rabies examination. (Ords. 20128, 20625, 21572, 27162.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16359.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etotdco","c_root_id_B":"etoh31r","created_at_utc_A":1563037084,"created_at_utc_B":1563027474,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I would start by simply contacting the veterinarian first, and asking to speak to someone *besides* the front desk worker who is going to answer the phone.  (If you can handle yourself well, I recommend actually going in and speaking face-to-face, as people tend to be less of an \\*\\*\\*hole when they can see you.)  The billing may have been an error or oversight, and if this is a larger clinic, your cat may have been handled by a bunch of techs who never communicated to each other why the cat was there in the first place.  Make sure you are talking to a *veterinarian* who has decision-making capabilities for that office and not just someone they send to deal with you.  Express your concerns and ask them to take care of the bill -- it's the least they can do since they ignored your service request that you were actually going to pay for. (And to be honest, it's pretty unusual to charge people for bites during treatment -- it's not your responsibility to train vet techs in how to safely handle animals in their care.)  If they dig in or treat you unkindly, don't lash out at them. As you already know, that won't fix things. You only have two options after that:  lawsuit to recover the hundred dollars and any money you already paid for cremation\/prints, or hitting them right in the social media\/reviews.  If you're in the US, you can do the first option without a lawyer by going a filing for a civil suit with your county court.  You will have to pay a nominal fee to open this and have everything ready to go. You may not get much back out of this, especially if the fee to open to suit is as much as what you're suing for, but it's the civil way to essentially punch them in the face.  The latter option is something you should do after careful consideration if opening a suit isn't for you.  If you go with this, never *vent* or write like a crazy person, just state what happened and how it was handled.","human_ref_B":"Omg, I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.. I don\u2019t have any advice or insight but I agree this seems so unfair. Sending hugs \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9610.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etobwrs","c_root_id_B":"etoa3n6","created_at_utc_A":1563022692,"created_at_utc_B":1563020725,"score_A":13,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for what happened. Were you not present during the euthanasia?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry this happened to you guys. I know that you will find another way to honor your cat. It sounds like she was very special to you.    Here are the codes your city must follow. IANAL, but in a nutshell, it looks like any bite has to be reported. The animal then must go to animal control. The owner may be charged for this quarantine. If it died while in quarantine, the animal will be submitted for rabies testing. It sounds like this was out of the control of your vets office, and the lack of paw prints was either not feasible or an oversight. I\u2019m very sorry.    7.08.220 Animal bites - Quarantine, violations and examinations. A. Any person having knowledge that any animal is known to have or is believed to have bitten any person shall immediately report the basis for such knowledge or belief to the animal services division.   B. On receipt of such report, an animal services officer shall seize and quarantine such animal for a period of fourteen days or such other period as may be prescribed by state law. The animal services officer may order the owner to quarantine the animal on the owner's premises.   C. No person shall fail, refuse or neglect to quarantine any animal as ordered by the animal services officer, or refuse to allow the animal services officer to inspect any private premises where the animal is kept. No animal shall be removed or released from the quarantine location during the quarantine period without written permission of the animal services officer.   D. The animal services division may charge a fee as set forth by resolution of the city council, for the costs of quarantining animals and inspections for quarantine of animals. Any fee charged shall be paid by the owner or person who has legal custody of the animal. Such a fee shall be in addition to the actual cost of the animal services division in housing, feeding and otherwise caring for a quarantined animal.   E. The head of any animal that dies or is destroyed while under quarantine shall be submitted to the laboratory of the county health department for rabies examination. (Ords. 20128, 20625, 21572, 27162.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1967.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etotuut","c_root_id_B":"etoa3n6","created_at_utc_A":1563037453,"created_at_utc_B":1563020725,"score_A":12,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Vet student in California here. Sometimes despite your best efforts, an animal can bite. Sometimes it isnt even the cat's fault, they are dysphoric due to medication and may not be aware of what they are doing. I can't be sure of your situation why the bite happened, but it unfortunately is a reality of the profession. When this happens, legally rabies testing or quarantine must happen. Quarantine was impossible, so unfortunately your animal had to be rabies tested. You should have been told this at the time. I'm not sure why that communication never happened, but we can't change that now. You may be able to get the vet to cover that $100 charge though - if it were my hospital, I'd do it. I expect most places would, but you will have to ask and explain the situation.  I'm so sorry for your loss and that you have to deal with this.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry this happened to you guys. I know that you will find another way to honor your cat. It sounds like she was very special to you.    Here are the codes your city must follow. IANAL, but in a nutshell, it looks like any bite has to be reported. The animal then must go to animal control. The owner may be charged for this quarantine. If it died while in quarantine, the animal will be submitted for rabies testing. It sounds like this was out of the control of your vets office, and the lack of paw prints was either not feasible or an oversight. I\u2019m very sorry.    7.08.220 Animal bites - Quarantine, violations and examinations. A. Any person having knowledge that any animal is known to have or is believed to have bitten any person shall immediately report the basis for such knowledge or belief to the animal services division.   B. On receipt of such report, an animal services officer shall seize and quarantine such animal for a period of fourteen days or such other period as may be prescribed by state law. The animal services officer may order the owner to quarantine the animal on the owner's premises.   C. No person shall fail, refuse or neglect to quarantine any animal as ordered by the animal services officer, or refuse to allow the animal services officer to inspect any private premises where the animal is kept. No animal shall be removed or released from the quarantine location during the quarantine period without written permission of the animal services officer.   D. The animal services division may charge a fee as set forth by resolution of the city council, for the costs of quarantining animals and inspections for quarantine of animals. Any fee charged shall be paid by the owner or person who has legal custody of the animal. Such a fee shall be in addition to the actual cost of the animal services division in housing, feeding and otherwise caring for a quarantined animal.   E. The head of any animal that dies or is destroyed while under quarantine shall be submitted to the laboratory of the county health department for rabies examination. (Ords. 20128, 20625, 21572, 27162.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16728.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etotuut","c_root_id_B":"etoh31r","created_at_utc_A":1563037453,"created_at_utc_B":1563027474,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Vet student in California here. Sometimes despite your best efforts, an animal can bite. Sometimes it isnt even the cat's fault, they are dysphoric due to medication and may not be aware of what they are doing. I can't be sure of your situation why the bite happened, but it unfortunately is a reality of the profession. When this happens, legally rabies testing or quarantine must happen. Quarantine was impossible, so unfortunately your animal had to be rabies tested. You should have been told this at the time. I'm not sure why that communication never happened, but we can't change that now. You may be able to get the vet to cover that $100 charge though - if it were my hospital, I'd do it. I expect most places would, but you will have to ask and explain the situation.  I'm so sorry for your loss and that you have to deal with this.","human_ref_B":"Omg, I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.. I don\u2019t have any advice or insight but I agree this seems so unfair. Sending hugs \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9979.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ccmjja","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My vet mishandled my cats paw prints after euthanizing her and I\u2019m devastated Some context: a little over a week ago, we had to take our cat in because she was labored breathing and extremely uncomfortable and after learning she had fluid build up in her chest cavity, etc. we ended up having to put her down.   Before putting her down, we essentially made a \u201cdeath plan\u201d if you will, which included copies of her paw prints as well as a communal cremation with her ashes to be spread over the Santa Cruz mountains.   Anyways, in waiting for our paw prints, the city of San Jose reached out to us notifying us that our cat had bit the vet tech while getting a catheter put in and we would now be charged $100. This worries me for a few reasons:  1. Was no medication involved in the process of putting the catheter in? 2. If someone was bit why wasn\u2019t I told THAT night? 3. Why on earth would I be charged that an animal bit somebody at an emergency vet???   Anyways, I got ahold of the vet about the bill and our impending paw prints and she tells me that due to the \u201cprotocol\u201d of bites, the body of my cat was taken to a shelter after she was put down and was cremated there with no paw prints AND they don\u2019t know what they did with the ashes. Apparently, they send animals that bite to be tested for rabies (which I get, but this is ridiculous because she\u2019s already UTD on vaccines, etc and the vet had her file!!)   For SO many reasons, I am devastated. Primarily, with the lack of concern and communication. If it\u2019s \u201clegal protocol\u201d after a bite to whisk the cat off to be rabies tested + cremated at a shelter, then we were given empty promises about ever receiving the paw prints because at this point, the vet knew we would never get them. The bite occurred prior to us putting our baby down, so we should\u2019ve been notified the second it happened.  My question is what would you do? Yelling at the vet won\u2019t bring my cat back or get my paw prints but I\u2019m honestly just devastated. We had plans to tattoo her paw print... this was the last piece of her that we would have and now we\u2019re left with a bill and not even the paw prints. My heart is broken. This was already an unexpected death, but to add this layer of dishonestly and lack of concern makes me sick. I\u2019m just devastated.","c_root_id_A":"etp6nqv","c_root_id_B":"etoh31r","created_at_utc_A":1563047168,"created_at_utc_B":1563027474,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I don't see why a bite would automatically preclude getting paw prints and ashes back. It's upsetting, but I don't know why they wouldn't be able to send the head in for testing separately from the rest of the remains - or request the remains back after testing. I assume she was rabies negative since your family wasn't contacted to get post-exposure prophylaxis.   It's a really shitty situation that should have been communicated better with you. Even if they legally needed to submit her remains for testing, you absolutely should have been informed as soon as they were aware that was the case. I'm so sorry that this is how it was handled. I'd recommend finding an extra special way to memorialize her since you can't do the idea with the paw print tattoo. After my dog passed, I buried one of his favorite treats along his favorite walking route. It brings me comfort whenever I pass by.","human_ref_B":"Omg, I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.. I don\u2019t have any advice or insight but I agree this seems so unfair. Sending hugs \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19694.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"c82upo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[UPDATE] Please help me get my cat put to sleep Thanks guys. I posted here yesterday about what to do about my cat because I couldn't afford to have him put to sleep. People gave me a lot of advice on shelters and pro-bono vets.  I spent a good part of the afternoon calling around and I found a vet who could help me at an affordable price. I explained the situation and they were very kind and understanding.   The only frustrating part is that the vet we've going to for the last 20 years wouldn't work with me.  &#x200B;  Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you all for your help and your kind words. I appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"eskiefb","c_root_id_B":"eskgw8z","created_at_utc_A":1562065462,"created_at_utc_B":1562064157,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You did the only thing you could to help your friend. I\u2018m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss, it\u2019s hard. I\u2019m glad you found a vet that would help you out.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1305.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic74fzw","c_root_id_B":"ic73ftu","created_at_utc_A":1655124263,"created_at_utc_B":1655123696,"score_A":369,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet - am a paramedic. I'll also say this may be upsetting.  If you've ever passed out or fainted you'll know of the tunnel vision that occurs. Your vision goes dark. In the split seconds after, and before you completely loose consciousness, you can still hear.   We're taught that this is the same in death. The last sense to go is hearing. There was a small study in 2017 conducted on 4 patients who were to have their life support switched off. One of the 4 patients continued to have significant brain activity for 10 minutes being pronounced clinically dead. All 4 patients experienced different patterns of electrical activity which suggests each experience is different.  There has also been larger studies on rats which showed significant electrical activity for a minute post death.   Its for this reason I encourage loved ones to speak to the patient after resuscitation attempts are ceased. If there is any chance that a person can have a final experience, I want it to be meaningful.  Your boy knew you were there. He felt you. He smelled you. He heard you. As hard as it was, you were where you needed to be, when he needed you to be there.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but if it helps, a human friend ended up in a coma and when he woke up he told me that he could occasionally hear people around him and felt comforted when he heard certain voices.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":567.0,"score_ratio":4.2413793103}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic740go","c_root_id_B":"ic74fzw","created_at_utc_A":1655124022,"created_at_utc_B":1655124263,"score_A":46,"score_B":369,"human_ref_A":"I choose to believe that beloved pets are a special type of creature, and we will never fully understand their psyche; that said, I further believe that love is a bridge which spans time, culture and species. You have every right to feel intense grief, yet rest easy in the knowledge that what you hope is real,   *if you believe*","human_ref_B":"Not a vet - am a paramedic. I'll also say this may be upsetting.  If you've ever passed out or fainted you'll know of the tunnel vision that occurs. Your vision goes dark. In the split seconds after, and before you completely loose consciousness, you can still hear.   We're taught that this is the same in death. The last sense to go is hearing. There was a small study in 2017 conducted on 4 patients who were to have their life support switched off. One of the 4 patients continued to have significant brain activity for 10 minutes being pronounced clinically dead. All 4 patients experienced different patterns of electrical activity which suggests each experience is different.  There has also been larger studies on rats which showed significant electrical activity for a minute post death.   Its for this reason I encourage loved ones to speak to the patient after resuscitation attempts are ceased. If there is any chance that a person can have a final experience, I want it to be meaningful.  Your boy knew you were there. He felt you. He smelled you. He heard you. As hard as it was, you were where you needed to be, when he needed you to be there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":241.0,"score_ratio":8.0217391304}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic8c561","c_root_id_B":"ic7fvcq","created_at_utc_A":1655144016,"created_at_utc_B":1655129999,"score_A":23,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Damnit. I am bawling now. First off, I am so sorry for your loss and thank you for giving your beautiful fur baby the gift of release from pain. I think that this is one thing we can do for our pets that approaches the selfless devotion they embody. It has been 2 years 9 months to the day since I held, rocked, and soothed my 15 yo dog during this process and the pain is still right there. But he knew I was there. And your baby did, too. All the hugs and love.","human_ref_B":"Even being unconcious on the operating table and being in a coma,  people have heard voices around them. I truly believe he heard you and knew that you were there for him in his last moments. He knew how much you loved him \u2661","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14017.0,"score_ratio":1.0952380952}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic8c561","c_root_id_B":"ic7sd2v","created_at_utc_A":1655144016,"created_at_utc_B":1655135500,"score_A":23,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Damnit. I am bawling now. First off, I am so sorry for your loss and thank you for giving your beautiful fur baby the gift of release from pain. I think that this is one thing we can do for our pets that approaches the selfless devotion they embody. It has been 2 years 9 months to the day since I held, rocked, and soothed my 15 yo dog during this process and the pain is still right there. But he knew I was there. And your baby did, too. All the hugs and love.","human_ref_B":"My GF and I just went through this a few months ago with one of our buddies (cat, 16yrs old) so I understand this.     I do believe they know you're there by both senses and your presence, energy, comfort, je ne sais quoi (only French I know, sorry).     My condolences and I hope you find peace in his passing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8516.0,"score_ratio":2.0909090909}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic7u6sq","c_root_id_B":"ic8c561","created_at_utc_A":1655136272,"created_at_utc_B":1655144016,"score_A":7,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"yes. he absolutely knew that you were there. i'm so sorry for your loss. *internet hugs*","human_ref_B":"Damnit. I am bawling now. First off, I am so sorry for your loss and thank you for giving your beautiful fur baby the gift of release from pain. I think that this is one thing we can do for our pets that approaches the selfless devotion they embody. It has been 2 years 9 months to the day since I held, rocked, and soothed my 15 yo dog during this process and the pain is still right there. But he knew I was there. And your baby did, too. All the hugs and love.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7744.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic7u6sq","c_root_id_B":"ic97crb","created_at_utc_A":1655136272,"created_at_utc_B":1655157261,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"yes. he absolutely knew that you were there. i'm so sorry for your loss. *internet hugs*","human_ref_B":"I am in veterinary medicine and while I technically don\u2019t know if this is true, I do believe they can sense what\u2019s going on around them even if they are not fully aware. I equate this with the sensation where you aren\u2019t fully asleep yet but you\u2019re in that comatose state where you can\u2019t really move or speak or open your eyes right before you fall asleep. Not in a scary way but as in you\u2019re just about to fall asleep but you\u2019re still slightly conscious. I am sorry for your loss I hope this helps in your healing process \ud83d\udc95","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20989.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"vb8hfm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Do cats know that their owner is with them during euthanasia despite being put to sleep before? Hello. My question may seem weird. I recently lost my baby, he was my everything. I only have him in my shitty life. And we really have a extraordinary bond together. He was my shadow. I met him on his very first day where he was thrown away in a closed trash bad with his brothers and sisters, in a freaking rainy night in the middle of October. Only 2 survived. I fed him like a baby. From the moment he could walk, he was ALWAYS after me and it never stopped. I was the only one who could touch him, kiss him.. he was always right next to me. He literally sleep with me, under the covers lol. He was the sweetest soul ever, so kind with me. Yet he was a tiger with people he didnt like, especially vets lol.   I had to take the worse decision ever. But I wanted to stay by his side until the very end. They first gave him a shot to make him sleep. And during that, I stayed with him, talked to him, kissed him, touched him. His eyes were still open but the vet told me that he was sleeping, such shot make them keep their eyes open.  And I stayed with him when they did the last shot, the pink one.  I was still talking to him, petting him, kissing him and then I was told \"There. He's gone now.\" His eyes were still open which broke my heart even more. I stayed with him until I was told to leave.   By your own experiences, do you think he was aware that he was not alone??? Do you think that despite the \"sleeping shot\" he could still hear me in a way?? Feel me??  I dont know if it is like a full anaesthesia or if it is closer to what is a sleeping pill to us. I have no idea. But the thing is, I once read that animals tend to look for their owner during such time. Yet mine was really sick. They took him in another room to do the first \"sleeping shot\" and came right after it. Yet when I took him in my arms, I think he was already sleeping because of how hard he was fighting. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he was .. sleepy but not sleeping yet, just that his body was already \"off\". I'm not fluent, I'm French so I hope everything is understandable   Do you think despite that, he knew that his mommy was right next to him???","c_root_id_A":"ic9luij","c_root_id_B":"ic7u6sq","created_at_utc_A":1655163967,"created_at_utc_B":1655136272,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"\\*correction\\*     You made the best decision ever. It is our duty, as the superior and more evolved species to recognize the suffering of our pets and make the call to alleviate that. And you realized his pain > your pain and placed his needs over your own and did what needed to be done to help him transition.   Animals absolutely know that you're with them. Working in dog rescue, I have had to put down a few, and maybe it is me, but I always sensed relief. Being an older animal is hard, and I distinctly remember an older labrador, riddled with cancer and unable to walk, looking up at me with this look of \"Thank you, you've done all you can. I'm ready to be done\" before passing peacefully in my lap.","human_ref_B":"yes. he absolutely knew that you were there. i'm so sorry for your loss. *internet hugs*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27695.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrctnk","c_root_id_B":"iwrfk0l","created_at_utc_A":1668714414,"created_at_utc_B":1668715494,"score_A":45,"score_B":76,"human_ref_A":"You should clean the litter box as often as possible, at minimum once per day.  A well maintained litter box should not cause health issues for your cat.","human_ref_B":"Dirty litter boxes can cause bladder infections! The germs and grotesque nature of it will literally make your cat not only sick, but less likely to use her litter box. Buy a litter disposal system if it\u2019s too much for you. You literally just scoop it each time they go and throw it in the bin.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1080.0,"score_ratio":1.6888888889}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrdm65","c_root_id_B":"iwrfk0l","created_at_utc_A":1668714728,"created_at_utc_B":1668715494,"score_A":16,"score_B":76,"human_ref_A":"Scoop your cat's litter box everyday, and at least once a week, dump all the litter, wash it out with hot water and soap, rinsing well to remove all the soap, dry it out, or let it sit in the sun if possible, then fill back up with fresh litter. Also make sure you clean the area around the litter box, removing and kicked out litter, feces and other yuck. Just like we appreciate a clean bathroom so does your cat.","human_ref_B":"Dirty litter boxes can cause bladder infections! The germs and grotesque nature of it will literally make your cat not only sick, but less likely to use her litter box. Buy a litter disposal system if it\u2019s too much for you. You literally just scoop it each time they go and throw it in the bin.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":766.0,"score_ratio":4.75}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrfk0l","c_root_id_B":"iwr59bw","created_at_utc_A":1668715494,"created_at_utc_B":1668711410,"score_A":76,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Dirty litter boxes can cause bladder infections! The germs and grotesque nature of it will literally make your cat not only sick, but less likely to use her litter box. Buy a litter disposal system if it\u2019s too much for you. You literally just scoop it each time they go and throw it in the bin.","human_ref_B":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4084.0,"score_ratio":15.2}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwr59bw","c_root_id_B":"iwrctnk","created_at_utc_A":1668711410,"created_at_utc_B":1668714414,"score_A":5,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","human_ref_B":"You should clean the litter box as often as possible, at minimum once per day.  A well maintained litter box should not cause health issues for your cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3004.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iws6vek","c_root_id_B":"iwrdm65","created_at_utc_A":1668726780,"created_at_utc_B":1668714728,"score_A":30,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Just clean the box regularly (doesn't need to be every time they use it, that's ridiculous lol. Not to mention they use the litterbox as a scent marker) and don't use unsafe litters and you'll be fine","human_ref_B":"Scoop your cat's litter box everyday, and at least once a week, dump all the litter, wash it out with hot water and soap, rinsing well to remove all the soap, dry it out, or let it sit in the sun if possible, then fill back up with fresh litter. Also make sure you clean the area around the litter box, removing and kicked out litter, feces and other yuck. Just like we appreciate a clean bathroom so does your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12052.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrmr31","c_root_id_B":"iws6vek","created_at_utc_A":1668718338,"created_at_utc_B":1668726780,"score_A":16,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Yes, cats can transmit disease and parasites to each other through contact with waste in the litter box.  The general rule of thumb is that you should have one litter box per cat, plus one extra.  The litter should be scooped out after every poop, and then the entire box should be changed once a week or every 2 weeks, depending on the type of litter you use.","human_ref_B":"Just clean the box regularly (doesn't need to be every time they use it, that's ridiculous lol. Not to mention they use the litterbox as a scent marker) and don't use unsafe litters and you'll be fine","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8442.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iws6vek","c_root_id_B":"iwrn41q","created_at_utc_A":1668726780,"created_at_utc_B":1668718478,"score_A":30,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Just clean the box regularly (doesn't need to be every time they use it, that's ridiculous lol. Not to mention they use the litterbox as a scent marker) and don't use unsafe litters and you'll be fine","human_ref_B":"Cats by nature are very particular animals who obsess about keeping their fur and paws clean. So the idea of using a filthy restroom is just as repulsive and unhygienic to them as it is to us. Besides, cats have a sense of smell 20 times stronger than a human's so...you can do the math on that one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8302.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iws6vek","c_root_id_B":"iwritew","created_at_utc_A":1668726780,"created_at_utc_B":1668716793,"score_A":30,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Just clean the box regularly (doesn't need to be every time they use it, that's ridiculous lol. Not to mention they use the litterbox as a scent marker) and don't use unsafe litters and you'll be fine","human_ref_B":"I use high quality clumping cat litter and scoop up the business every time its done as soon after I can. I then thoroughly empty it out and clean it with disinfectant once a month.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9987.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwr59bw","c_root_id_B":"iws6vek","created_at_utc_A":1668711410,"created_at_utc_B":1668726780,"score_A":5,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","human_ref_B":"Just clean the box regularly (doesn't need to be every time they use it, that's ridiculous lol. Not to mention they use the litterbox as a scent marker) and don't use unsafe litters and you'll be fine","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15370.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrdm65","c_root_id_B":"iwr59bw","created_at_utc_A":1668714728,"created_at_utc_B":1668711410,"score_A":16,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Scoop your cat's litter box everyday, and at least once a week, dump all the litter, wash it out with hot water and soap, rinsing well to remove all the soap, dry it out, or let it sit in the sun if possible, then fill back up with fresh litter. Also make sure you clean the area around the litter box, removing and kicked out litter, feces and other yuck. Just like we appreciate a clean bathroom so does your cat.","human_ref_B":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3318.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrmr31","c_root_id_B":"iwritew","created_at_utc_A":1668718338,"created_at_utc_B":1668716793,"score_A":16,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Yes, cats can transmit disease and parasites to each other through contact with waste in the litter box.  The general rule of thumb is that you should have one litter box per cat, plus one extra.  The litter should be scooped out after every poop, and then the entire box should be changed once a week or every 2 weeks, depending on the type of litter you use.","human_ref_B":"I use high quality clumping cat litter and scoop up the business every time its done as soon after I can. I then thoroughly empty it out and clean it with disinfectant once a month.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1545.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrmr31","c_root_id_B":"iwr59bw","created_at_utc_A":1668718338,"created_at_utc_B":1668711410,"score_A":16,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes, cats can transmit disease and parasites to each other through contact with waste in the litter box.  The general rule of thumb is that you should have one litter box per cat, plus one extra.  The litter should be scooped out after every poop, and then the entire box should be changed once a week or every 2 weeks, depending on the type of litter you use.","human_ref_B":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6928.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwrn41q","c_root_id_B":"iwritew","created_at_utc_A":1668718478,"created_at_utc_B":1668716793,"score_A":15,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Cats by nature are very particular animals who obsess about keeping their fur and paws clean. So the idea of using a filthy restroom is just as repulsive and unhygienic to them as it is to us. Besides, cats have a sense of smell 20 times stronger than a human's so...you can do the math on that one.","human_ref_B":"I use high quality clumping cat litter and scoop up the business every time its done as soon after I can. I then thoroughly empty it out and clean it with disinfectant once a month.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1685.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwr59bw","c_root_id_B":"iwrn41q","created_at_utc_A":1668711410,"created_at_utc_B":1668718478,"score_A":5,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","human_ref_B":"Cats by nature are very particular animals who obsess about keeping their fur and paws clean. So the idea of using a filthy restroom is just as repulsive and unhygienic to them as it is to us. Besides, cats have a sense of smell 20 times stronger than a human's so...you can do the math on that one.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7068.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwritew","c_root_id_B":"iwsg8ls","created_at_utc_A":1668716793,"created_at_utc_B":1668731025,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I use high quality clumping cat litter and scoop up the business every time its done as soon after I can. I then thoroughly empty it out and clean it with disinfectant once a month.","human_ref_B":"Scoop out the poop when they go, but after they bury their stuff so they know they\u2019re doing a good job and don\u2019t feel pressured. Change the actual litter pellets once a week.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14232.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwr59bw","c_root_id_B":"iwsg8ls","created_at_utc_A":1668711410,"created_at_utc_B":1668731025,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","human_ref_B":"Scoop out the poop when they go, but after they bury their stuff so they know they\u2019re doing a good job and don\u2019t feel pressured. Change the actual litter pellets once a week.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19615.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwsg8ls","c_root_id_B":"iwsd6tn","created_at_utc_A":1668731025,"created_at_utc_B":1668729625,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Scoop out the poop when they go, but after they bury their stuff so they know they\u2019re doing a good job and don\u2019t feel pressured. Change the actual litter pellets once a week.","human_ref_B":"We had to take my poor cat to the vet because she developed a urinary tract infection due to the \u201cbacksplash\u201d. Thanks to that vet bill, we\u2019re extra careful about keeping the litter fresh in her to-go station.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1400.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iws9ecp","c_root_id_B":"iwsg8ls","created_at_utc_A":1668727916,"created_at_utc_B":1668731025,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I use clumping clay and scoop mine every 3 days then do a deep clean every week :)","human_ref_B":"Scoop out the poop when they go, but after they bury their stuff so they know they\u2019re doing a good job and don\u2019t feel pressured. Change the actual litter pellets once a week.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3109.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"yxy2c9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can my cat get sick from her litter box? I got a new kitten this week and this is my first time having a cat as a pet. Are litter boxes safe? How often should I clean them?","c_root_id_A":"iwritew","c_root_id_B":"iwr59bw","created_at_utc_A":1668716793,"created_at_utc_B":1668711410,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I use high quality clumping cat litter and scoop up the business every time its done as soon after I can. I then thoroughly empty it out and clean it with disinfectant once a month.","human_ref_B":"you should clean it every time your cat uses it, lots of cats don\u2019t like to use it again if they have already, so might have an accident!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5383.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsvcb5u","c_root_id_B":"gsvgg3s","created_at_utc_A":1617155907,"created_at_utc_B":1617158227,"score_A":35,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"There are some amazing thank yous in the links posted by another commenter. I can say personally.. a letter is amazing. Just a heartfelt letter with your thoughts and opinions means the world to your vet. Just knowing they are appreciated can put a smile on a vet during a hard day.","human_ref_B":"This post made me cry tears of joy that it wasn\u2019t written by another vet. Somebody understands us. It feels so good to read this and know clients like you exist.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2320.0,"score_ratio":2.8285714286}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsv2hqt","c_root_id_B":"gsvgg3s","created_at_utc_A":1617150563,"created_at_utc_B":1617158227,"score_A":17,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"Take a  look at the following posts:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/l8lims\/ways\\_to\\_thank\\_my\\_vets\\_office\\_for\\_everything\/  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/k999s1\/veterinarians\\_what\\_are\\_some\\_gifts\\_you\\_appreciate\/gf2vyvy\/?context=3","human_ref_B":"This post made me cry tears of joy that it wasn\u2019t written by another vet. Somebody understands us. It feels so good to read this and know clients like you exist.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7664.0,"score_ratio":5.8235294118}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsvkne9","c_root_id_B":"gsvcb5u","created_at_utc_A":1617160691,"created_at_utc_B":1617155907,"score_A":46,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"I  work with a great cardiologist, and our team is awesome. We recently lost a patient during a cardiac procedure.  These are ALWAYS risky.  Our anesthesia and cardio teams did CPR for over 30 minutes, during which cardiac compressions did not cease to maintain CO2 levels and blood pressure.  He received seven rounds of defibrillation. We got him back only because my amazing cardiologist thought of an antiarrhythmic that isn't normally part of resuscitation, only to lose him about 2 hours later.  We were all devastated.  I bawled and buried myself in a bottle that night.  Not a productive way to deal, but, hey, I'm allowed occasionally, especially when the patient looks just like my best friend at home, and had the same disease one of my previous best friends had.  I wish our patient had you as an owner.  She is attacking us for expressing our condolences, and refuses to believe us when we tell her we did absolutely everything, and more, that we could for her baby.  I understand her devastation, but attacking us is not going to bring him back, and it is only torture for her pet's care team.  Please let your vet \\*and their team\\* know how much you appreciate their care.  Tell them to disregard criticisms that come from a place of ignorance and pain, and focus on the appreciation from pet owners like yourself.  Give them a picture of your pet during a happier time. At this point, an appreciative owner, even despite a devastating outcome, is a great gift.","human_ref_B":"There are some amazing thank yous in the links posted by another commenter. I can say personally.. a letter is amazing. Just a heartfelt letter with your thoughts and opinions means the world to your vet. Just knowing they are appreciated can put a smile on a vet during a hard day.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4784.0,"score_ratio":1.3142857143}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsvkne9","c_root_id_B":"gsvgjif","created_at_utc_A":1617160691,"created_at_utc_B":1617158282,"score_A":46,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"I  work with a great cardiologist, and our team is awesome. We recently lost a patient during a cardiac procedure.  These are ALWAYS risky.  Our anesthesia and cardio teams did CPR for over 30 minutes, during which cardiac compressions did not cease to maintain CO2 levels and blood pressure.  He received seven rounds of defibrillation. We got him back only because my amazing cardiologist thought of an antiarrhythmic that isn't normally part of resuscitation, only to lose him about 2 hours later.  We were all devastated.  I bawled and buried myself in a bottle that night.  Not a productive way to deal, but, hey, I'm allowed occasionally, especially when the patient looks just like my best friend at home, and had the same disease one of my previous best friends had.  I wish our patient had you as an owner.  She is attacking us for expressing our condolences, and refuses to believe us when we tell her we did absolutely everything, and more, that we could for her baby.  I understand her devastation, but attacking us is not going to bring him back, and it is only torture for her pet's care team.  Please let your vet \\*and their team\\* know how much you appreciate their care.  Tell them to disregard criticisms that come from a place of ignorance and pain, and focus on the appreciation from pet owners like yourself.  Give them a picture of your pet during a happier time. At this point, an appreciative owner, even despite a devastating outcome, is a great gift.","human_ref_B":"I have to tell you reading this post made me tear up! Thank you for being so wonderful to your vet clinic! This past year has been especially difficult for the veterinary community. We have been yelled at and treated unfairly by more clients than ever before while being busier than ever on top of our normal stressors. Owners are more mistrusting of us because many clinics are still operating on curbside and \"I wouldn't trust my kid to go into the doctor alone so why would I trust my dog to go in alone\". It's so refreshing to see someone not just be thankful but understand what our profession is going through. I'm sure your vet staff would love a card or email with that same sentiment and a photo of your dog happy and healthy \u2764","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2409.0,"score_ratio":1.84}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsv2hqt","c_root_id_B":"gsvkne9","created_at_utc_A":1617150563,"created_at_utc_B":1617160691,"score_A":17,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Take a  look at the following posts:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/l8lims\/ways\\_to\\_thank\\_my\\_vets\\_office\\_for\\_everything\/  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/k999s1\/veterinarians\\_what\\_are\\_some\\_gifts\\_you\\_appreciate\/gf2vyvy\/?context=3","human_ref_B":"I  work with a great cardiologist, and our team is awesome. We recently lost a patient during a cardiac procedure.  These are ALWAYS risky.  Our anesthesia and cardio teams did CPR for over 30 minutes, during which cardiac compressions did not cease to maintain CO2 levels and blood pressure.  He received seven rounds of defibrillation. We got him back only because my amazing cardiologist thought of an antiarrhythmic that isn't normally part of resuscitation, only to lose him about 2 hours later.  We were all devastated.  I bawled and buried myself in a bottle that night.  Not a productive way to deal, but, hey, I'm allowed occasionally, especially when the patient looks just like my best friend at home, and had the same disease one of my previous best friends had.  I wish our patient had you as an owner.  She is attacking us for expressing our condolences, and refuses to believe us when we tell her we did absolutely everything, and more, that we could for her baby.  I understand her devastation, but attacking us is not going to bring him back, and it is only torture for her pet's care team.  Please let your vet \\*and their team\\* know how much you appreciate their care.  Tell them to disregard criticisms that come from a place of ignorance and pain, and focus on the appreciation from pet owners like yourself.  Give them a picture of your pet during a happier time. At this point, an appreciative owner, even despite a devastating outcome, is a great gift.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10128.0,"score_ratio":2.7058823529}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsvcb5u","c_root_id_B":"gsv2hqt","created_at_utc_A":1617155907,"created_at_utc_B":1617150563,"score_A":35,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"There are some amazing thank yous in the links posted by another commenter. I can say personally.. a letter is amazing. Just a heartfelt letter with your thoughts and opinions means the world to your vet. Just knowing they are appreciated can put a smile on a vet during a hard day.","human_ref_B":"Take a  look at the following posts:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/l8lims\/ways\\_to\\_thank\\_my\\_vets\\_office\\_for\\_everything\/  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/k999s1\/veterinarians\\_what\\_are\\_some\\_gifts\\_you\\_appreciate\/gf2vyvy\/?context=3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5344.0,"score_ratio":2.0588235294}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsv2hqt","c_root_id_B":"gsvgjif","created_at_utc_A":1617150563,"created_at_utc_B":1617158282,"score_A":17,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Take a  look at the following posts:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/l8lims\/ways\\_to\\_thank\\_my\\_vets\\_office\\_for\\_everything\/  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/k999s1\/veterinarians\\_what\\_are\\_some\\_gifts\\_you\\_appreciate\/gf2vyvy\/?context=3","human_ref_B":"I have to tell you reading this post made me tear up! Thank you for being so wonderful to your vet clinic! This past year has been especially difficult for the veterinary community. We have been yelled at and treated unfairly by more clients than ever before while being busier than ever on top of our normal stressors. Owners are more mistrusting of us because many clinics are still operating on curbside and \"I wouldn't trust my kid to go into the doctor alone so why would I trust my dog to go in alone\". It's so refreshing to see someone not just be thankful but understand what our profession is going through. I'm sure your vet staff would love a card or email with that same sentiment and a photo of your dog happy and healthy \u2764","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7719.0,"score_ratio":1.4705882353}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gswkkuz","c_root_id_B":"gsvs3yn","created_at_utc_A":1617190441,"created_at_utc_B":1617165560,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I recently bought my vet team a big cake, a stuffed animal, a thank you card and a pet portrait as a thank you to them for all they\u2019ve done for my pets! They absolutely loved it, you can\u2019t go wrong with sweets most of the time :)","human_ref_B":"I think you just did.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24881.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsvs3yn","c_root_id_B":"gsx1igg","created_at_utc_A":1617165560,"created_at_utc_B":1617200600,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I think you just did.","human_ref_B":"One of my best friends is a vet at an emergency clinic.  A few years ago, my brothers dog suffered a traumatic injury and was treated by some brilliant vets near my friend and I asked if it had been her.  She said no, it was not, but I proceeded to thank her for her service to our animals and her field.  I asked her how she gets thanked, and she choked up.    Her response was this: \"We don't get thanked.  We get sued.  We get sued because animals are animals (and can do stupid stuff) and we try our very best and still can't save them all.\"  This broke my heart.  My friend is one of the most caring animal \"moms\" any creature could ask for, and she is also brilliant.    I make a point every once in a while to make a random post on the socials about thanking the vets that care for your animals, no matter how things turned out.    Vets care with all their heart and souls, but you are not magicians.  \u2764\ufe0f  I respect you for the work you do, and thank you for it.  As for the owner and doggo that this post is about, my heart and thoughts are with you! Keep us posted.\ud83e\udd1e","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35040.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gswliik","c_root_id_B":"gsx1igg","created_at_utc_A":1617191160,"created_at_utc_B":1617200600,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I love this so much. I manage an animal hospital and honestly just a nice card saying exactly what you said (and maybe a gift card for a local restaurant so the staff can order a lunch) is huge. It's just so stressful right now and just hearing from an owner that efforts are appreciated is huge.  Also don't forget the power of a good review in as many places as possible.","human_ref_B":"One of my best friends is a vet at an emergency clinic.  A few years ago, my brothers dog suffered a traumatic injury and was treated by some brilliant vets near my friend and I asked if it had been her.  She said no, it was not, but I proceeded to thank her for her service to our animals and her field.  I asked her how she gets thanked, and she choked up.    Her response was this: \"We don't get thanked.  We get sued.  We get sued because animals are animals (and can do stupid stuff) and we try our very best and still can't save them all.\"  This broke my heart.  My friend is one of the most caring animal \"moms\" any creature could ask for, and she is also brilliant.    I make a point every once in a while to make a random post on the socials about thanking the vets that care for your animals, no matter how things turned out.    Vets care with all their heart and souls, but you are not magicians.  \u2764\ufe0f  I respect you for the work you do, and thank you for it.  As for the owner and doggo that this post is about, my heart and thoughts are with you! Keep us posted.\ud83e\udd1e","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9440.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"mgth99","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to thank your Vet? Our 2y M Goldador Gus decided to dry his insides with a towel, and we have had an extremely stressful week. A 2am visit to the emergency Vet, and they suggested pancreatitis. I wasn't convinced and requested an anti-emetic and sub-cut pain relief to last the 5 hours until my Vet opened.   Imaging confirmed a bowel obstruction and surgery ensued, with 1 length of towel from his stomach, through the length of his colon and well into his bowel. During this time he regurgitated and aspirated. He was hung off the table and the Vet was very concerned.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/WrrgHWe  He was on the mend at home until yesterday morning when he was showing signs of infection. He had actually been seen by a Vet the previous afternoon and everything was progressing well. I work in the medical field, and got him to the Vet, fearing sepsis.   The staff at the vet have been incredible. They closed in the afternoon, with a vet and nurse staying with him until the vet went home after 9pm, the nurse did a 14 hour shift and swapped with another vet at midnight. The same nurse was back at 4am to swap again. This is not a 24 hour clinic.   They let my wife and I hang around with our dog, and we got him walking and urinating. All three of us were comforted by being allowed to be there.   While hanging around, I chatted with the Vet about my admiration for their role. They had experienced a very difficult day, with a routine surgery resulting in the loss of a dog. I understand resuscitation of this animal went for a number of hours and was unexpected by all. The vet was very upset by it.   My field of work has a long and dark history of suicide and mental health conditions, but we have coping mechanisms - both formal and informal. We also enjoy very defined relationships with our patients with the relationship starting and ending over the course of 1 - 2 hours. The impact of our role is still too much for many people.   I cannot fathom how hard vets and vet staff have it.   Clinics are either small with a limited number of practitioners, with long and drawn out relationships with patients who can't talk and owners who can't seem to listen. It's not like there is a bar that vets get to hang out in and debrief. They go home and think about their ongoing cases and get up in the middle of the night to continue working on them. It must be lonely and it must be consuming.   I understand the risks with my boy, and that's why I was so quick to get him back to care when his situation changed. My dogs are my world, and a big part of my coping mechanisms for dealing with my work related stressors. It doesn't matter if it is 3pm or 3am when I walk through the door... I always get greeted with love. When I am in a dark place, I have 2 labs ready to retrieve me. I can't express what loosing one unexpectedly would do to me.   That said, how can I possibly thank these guys for the work they do? How can I make their day a little better?","c_root_id_A":"gsx7kim","c_root_id_B":"gsxge3r","created_at_utc_A":1617203478,"created_at_utc_B":1617207469,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Send lunch to the office! Let one person know so they tell the others not to buy lunch that day or send it early enough. A handwritten, heartfelt note goes a long way too. And of course, referrals for people in your area will help business-wise.","human_ref_B":"Food. Our clinic staff gets so excited when we get food or snacks delivered. One client recently baked pumpkin bread loaves for everyone and each had a sweet note in it. You don't have to home bake things. Any food will do. Just drop something by with a nice note like others said and you will make everyone's day. It helps if it's small bite sized things that they can eat on the go.  ETA: Literally just had a client drop off a tray of cookies from Sam's Club. Everyone is happy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3991.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ir8bi9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.","c_root_id_A":"g4xgoxb","c_root_id_B":"g4xb2m2","created_at_utc_A":1599918919,"created_at_utc_B":1599914955,"score_A":65,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!","human_ref_B":"You should try fostering a kitten to see if your kitty would like it! Kittens are much easier to introduce than other adult cats.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3964.0,"score_ratio":1.511627907}
{"post_id":"ir8bi9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.","c_root_id_A":"g4x340m","c_root_id_B":"g4xgoxb","created_at_utc_A":1599907615,"created_at_utc_B":1599918919,"score_A":15,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"I have a cat with a similar disposition and one thing that legitimately has helped is leaving a pair of clothes that I\u2019ve recently worn flat out on my bed. They have my smell on them and they\u2019re always covered in his hair when I get home.","human_ref_B":"Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11304.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ir8bi9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.","c_root_id_A":"g4xffei","c_root_id_B":"g4xgoxb","created_at_utc_A":1599918071,"created_at_utc_B":1599918919,"score_A":12,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"I think Fel-A-Way helped my cat tremendously with anxiety after the loss of her older sister kitty this year. Also, there are web cams that allow you to talk to kitty throughout the day. In addition, newer treat dispensers have voice recording options that can be set on a timer, so she gets to hear your voice and get a snack! Also, pet sitters are pretty good options. They can stop over for 15 mins to play and cuddle while you're gone. Best of luck!!!!","human_ref_B":"Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":848.0,"score_ratio":5.4166666667}
{"post_id":"ir8bi9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.","c_root_id_A":"g4x340m","c_root_id_B":"g4xb2m2","created_at_utc_A":1599907615,"created_at_utc_B":1599914955,"score_A":15,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"I have a cat with a similar disposition and one thing that legitimately has helped is leaving a pair of clothes that I\u2019ve recently worn flat out on my bed. They have my smell on them and they\u2019re always covered in his hair when I get home.","human_ref_B":"You should try fostering a kitten to see if your kitty would like it! Kittens are much easier to introduce than other adult cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7340.0,"score_ratio":2.8666666667}
{"post_id":"ir8bi9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.","c_root_id_A":"g4xrgpy","c_root_id_B":"g4y7uyq","created_at_utc_A":1599924463,"created_at_utc_B":1599931488,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Feliway diffuser, ssri, another cat","human_ref_B":"Rotate his toys every few days. They get used to\/bored of stuff just like we do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7025.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"rfsx5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hogbq0q","c_root_id_B":"hog1w30","created_at_utc_A":1639444657,"created_at_utc_B":1639439719,"score_A":165,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97","human_ref_B":"Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet\/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4938.0,"score_ratio":1.5137614679}
{"post_id":"rfsx5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hofzdvf","c_root_id_B":"hogbq0q","created_at_utc_A":1639438614,"created_at_utc_B":1639444657,"score_A":50,"score_B":165,"human_ref_A":"Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?","human_ref_B":"My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6043.0,"score_ratio":3.3}
{"post_id":"rfsx5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hogbq0q","c_root_id_B":"hog0nuz","created_at_utc_A":1639444657,"created_at_utc_B":1639439175,"score_A":165,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97","human_ref_B":"There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5482.0,"score_ratio":8.6842105263}
{"post_id":"rfsx5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hofzdvf","c_root_id_B":"hog1w30","created_at_utc_A":1639438614,"created_at_utc_B":1639439719,"score_A":50,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?","human_ref_B":"Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet\/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1105.0,"score_ratio":2.18}
{"post_id":"rfsx5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hog0nuz","c_root_id_B":"hog1w30","created_at_utc_A":1639439175,"created_at_utc_B":1639439719,"score_A":19,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.","human_ref_B":"Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet\/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":544.0,"score_ratio":5.7368421053}
{"post_id":"kzbfys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this a bad vet? My cat was euthanized yesterday and just want to know if you\u2019re a vet, do you give pets anything to control their pain or to calm them down before being euthanized?  He was really weak and tired when I brought him in. I waited in the car for 3 hours in which I thought he was being taken care of by being given medication or something to make him more calm.   When I went into the room I could hear people laughing on the other side of the door and then I heard my cat crying. When he was brought into the room he was crying hysterically and the vet tech left without saying a word. He kept crying and I couldn\u2019t console him so I had to go ask the receptionist to bring in the vet and asked to start the process to take away his pain. I just feel so mad and sad for him that for three hours they weren\u2019t doing anything to make him more comfortable.  Is this normal or did I go to a bad vet?","c_root_id_A":"gjnhxgt","c_root_id_B":"gjmri7e","created_at_utc_A":1610919927,"created_at_utc_B":1610908483,"score_A":208,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"I can\u2019t comment on anything but the laughing, the building is small it happens. I\u2019m normally the person going around shushing people incase they don\u2019t know the owners coming in for euthanasia have arrived. I\u2019m also the person sometimes having to be shushed. We never mean for you to hear us having a good time on the worst day of your life. But in this field if you don\u2019t laugh you\u2019ll just cry instead and I can promise they were not laughing at you your pet or your situation. I\u2019m sorry you had to hear it and I\u2019m sorry for your loss. Covid has also made wait times historically long and it really sucks.","human_ref_B":"You could certainly request all of your cat's records including labwork, prescriptions, vital signs, doctors notes, diagnoses, and all communications to be emailed, mailed or faxed to you. You have a right to those.   And you could ask for the doctor to call you to discuss what was being done to specifically treat your pet while they were in the clinic.   And then provide your feedback about your negative experience saying good bye to your pet and grieving while they were yucking it up in back. Perhaps they are unaware of how sound travels, in their clinic?   I'm sorry that you experienced such a traumatic way to say good bye. You would be well within in your rights to never go back based on it.   I hope you find some comfort.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11444.0,"score_ratio":1.8086956522}
{"post_id":"kzbfys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this a bad vet? My cat was euthanized yesterday and just want to know if you\u2019re a vet, do you give pets anything to control their pain or to calm them down before being euthanized?  He was really weak and tired when I brought him in. I waited in the car for 3 hours in which I thought he was being taken care of by being given medication or something to make him more calm.   When I went into the room I could hear people laughing on the other side of the door and then I heard my cat crying. When he was brought into the room he was crying hysterically and the vet tech left without saying a word. He kept crying and I couldn\u2019t console him so I had to go ask the receptionist to bring in the vet and asked to start the process to take away his pain. I just feel so mad and sad for him that for three hours they weren\u2019t doing anything to make him more comfortable.  Is this normal or did I go to a bad vet?","c_root_id_A":"gjnhxgt","c_root_id_B":"gjmpnng","created_at_utc_A":1610919927,"created_at_utc_B":1610908016,"score_A":208,"score_B":70,"human_ref_A":"I can\u2019t comment on anything but the laughing, the building is small it happens. I\u2019m normally the person going around shushing people incase they don\u2019t know the owners coming in for euthanasia have arrived. I\u2019m also the person sometimes having to be shushed. We never mean for you to hear us having a good time on the worst day of your life. But in this field if you don\u2019t laugh you\u2019ll just cry instead and I can promise they were not laughing at you your pet or your situation. I\u2019m sorry you had to hear it and I\u2019m sorry for your loss. Covid has also made wait times historically long and it really sucks.","human_ref_B":"There's a lot in your story that makes it hard to comment. I understand that losing a pet is a difficult time and that it's horrible to let them go. I wouldn't always give an animal pain relief or medication before putting them to sleep but there are 101 factors that may alter that decision and it's different for each case. Namely being in this case what exactly was happening for three hours whilst you waited outside.  I highly doubt that the vet would be doing anything malicious and I'm sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11911.0,"score_ratio":2.9714285714}
{"post_id":"kzbfys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this a bad vet? My cat was euthanized yesterday and just want to know if you\u2019re a vet, do you give pets anything to control their pain or to calm them down before being euthanized?  He was really weak and tired when I brought him in. I waited in the car for 3 hours in which I thought he was being taken care of by being given medication or something to make him more calm.   When I went into the room I could hear people laughing on the other side of the door and then I heard my cat crying. When he was brought into the room he was crying hysterically and the vet tech left without saying a word. He kept crying and I couldn\u2019t console him so I had to go ask the receptionist to bring in the vet and asked to start the process to take away his pain. I just feel so mad and sad for him that for three hours they weren\u2019t doing anything to make him more comfortable.  Is this normal or did I go to a bad vet?","c_root_id_A":"gjnhxgt","c_root_id_B":"gjnf2v5","created_at_utc_A":1610919927,"created_at_utc_B":1610918644,"score_A":208,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I can\u2019t comment on anything but the laughing, the building is small it happens. I\u2019m normally the person going around shushing people incase they don\u2019t know the owners coming in for euthanasia have arrived. I\u2019m also the person sometimes having to be shushed. We never mean for you to hear us having a good time on the worst day of your life. But in this field if you don\u2019t laugh you\u2019ll just cry instead and I can promise they were not laughing at you your pet or your situation. I\u2019m sorry you had to hear it and I\u2019m sorry for your loss. Covid has also made wait times historically long and it really sucks.","human_ref_B":"It's hard to tell exactly what they were doing but if I'm in your shoes I'd totally understand how you feel. Every clinic I've worked at sees euthanasias as the #1 top priority. We never say no to end of life appointments of clients that we have seen before and take care of it before any other appointments.   If the patient is in distress we would prioritize sedating them quickly to make them more comfortable and this gives the owners some time to spend with their beloved pet peacefully. Depending on the drugs used it can include drugs that provide some pain control. If the patient is in really bad shape we try to end the pain as soon as possible.   There are some patients we see often and when it comes to their time to pass the entire staff is in tears. In the end this is a big part of our job and we have to continue on with the day so we won't stop giggling about the cute puppy or joking around.  However, we do try our absolute best to make sure all staff knows that's going on so we can be quiet and respectful to the owner\/pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1283.0,"score_ratio":7.4285714286}
{"post_id":"kzbfys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this a bad vet? My cat was euthanized yesterday and just want to know if you\u2019re a vet, do you give pets anything to control their pain or to calm them down before being euthanized?  He was really weak and tired when I brought him in. I waited in the car for 3 hours in which I thought he was being taken care of by being given medication or something to make him more calm.   When I went into the room I could hear people laughing on the other side of the door and then I heard my cat crying. When he was brought into the room he was crying hysterically and the vet tech left without saying a word. He kept crying and I couldn\u2019t console him so I had to go ask the receptionist to bring in the vet and asked to start the process to take away his pain. I just feel so mad and sad for him that for three hours they weren\u2019t doing anything to make him more comfortable.  Is this normal or did I go to a bad vet?","c_root_id_A":"gjmpnng","c_root_id_B":"gjmri7e","created_at_utc_A":1610908016,"created_at_utc_B":1610908483,"score_A":70,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"There's a lot in your story that makes it hard to comment. I understand that losing a pet is a difficult time and that it's horrible to let them go. I wouldn't always give an animal pain relief or medication before putting them to sleep but there are 101 factors that may alter that decision and it's different for each case. Namely being in this case what exactly was happening for three hours whilst you waited outside.  I highly doubt that the vet would be doing anything malicious and I'm sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"You could certainly request all of your cat's records including labwork, prescriptions, vital signs, doctors notes, diagnoses, and all communications to be emailed, mailed or faxed to you. You have a right to those.   And you could ask for the doctor to call you to discuss what was being done to specifically treat your pet while they were in the clinic.   And then provide your feedback about your negative experience saying good bye to your pet and grieving while they were yucking it up in back. Perhaps they are unaware of how sound travels, in their clinic?   I'm sorry that you experienced such a traumatic way to say good bye. You would be well within in your rights to never go back based on it.   I hope you find some comfort.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":467.0,"score_ratio":1.6428571429}
{"post_id":"kzbfys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this a bad vet? My cat was euthanized yesterday and just want to know if you\u2019re a vet, do you give pets anything to control their pain or to calm them down before being euthanized?  He was really weak and tired when I brought him in. I waited in the car for 3 hours in which I thought he was being taken care of by being given medication or something to make him more calm.   When I went into the room I could hear people laughing on the other side of the door and then I heard my cat crying. When he was brought into the room he was crying hysterically and the vet tech left without saying a word. He kept crying and I couldn\u2019t console him so I had to go ask the receptionist to bring in the vet and asked to start the process to take away his pain. I just feel so mad and sad for him that for three hours they weren\u2019t doing anything to make him more comfortable.  Is this normal or did I go to a bad vet?","c_root_id_A":"gjo9306","c_root_id_B":"gjo4dav","created_at_utc_A":1610933188,"created_at_utc_B":1610930716,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss.  Background noise should always be avoided during euthanasias. I would let the clinic know that the ambience was less than peaceful so they can send out reminders or identify the problem.  As far the as three hours between, it\u2019s impossible for us to know exactly what happened.","human_ref_B":"I can't say if they're a bad vet or not, but I can say that at my work, we shut off part of the lights in the back so everyone knows to shut up and the front is alerted if an exam turns into a euthanasia, there's also a candle in the lobby asking people in the lobby to keep their voices down (back when people were allowed in the lobby). Also, if a pet is having a stressful time placing an iv catheter for the euthanasia, the owner is urged to allow sedation for the pet, which also includes a type of analgesic (pain relief).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2472.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"e7898e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I was gifted an entire turkey. I\u2019m a vegetarian. What is the best way to prepare this turkey for my cats? So, I\u2019m low income and live in subsidized housing and was gifted a turkey. As I do not eat meat, I\u2019m going to use it for my obligate carnivore babies! They didn\u2019t seem too enthused by the plain turkey I brought home that my mom made, so I\u2019m wondering what techniques are best. Is brining bad for cats? I\u2019m going to give them giblets too and I\u2019m looking up supplements that I should add to homemade food, so I\u2019m mostly curious about suggestions on which technique to use for them.","c_root_id_A":"f9zx5t6","c_root_id_B":"f9ynhpm","created_at_utc_A":1575746354,"created_at_utc_B":1575731115,"score_A":28,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"this would be wonderfull if all vegans were  wise as you are  . I wish you a happy christmas","human_ref_B":"I would first check if it\u2019s safe for cats to eat, h th en if it is, bake it and rip it apart to shreds, debone it with gloves on to avoid splinters if you wanna get evrything","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15239.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"o19vsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What happens to my dog when she\u2019s at the vet for surgery? I think this is a silly question, but I\u2019m curious. My dog went in to be spayed today, and I had to drop her off in the morning at 8am. The vet just called me (around 1pm) to tell me they were taking her in now. I know it\u2019s standard to drop them off several hours before surgery.   My question is, what exactly do they do all day before surgery starts and why do they have owners bring their pets in so early? Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?","c_root_id_A":"h1zs0fc","c_root_id_B":"h1zrq9x","created_at_utc_A":1623865897,"created_at_utc_B":1623865778,"score_A":42,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"So different vets have different protocols but usually when the pets come in for surgery, there are a few animals that are done in one day. Most will have exams in the am and possibly bloodwork, and then they get pre-medication to help with anxiety and to lightly sedate them. This makes it easier to anesthetize as it's very difficult to anesthetize anxious animals (drugs take longer to take effect and side effects can be worse). Usually after exams and bloodwork is done, the animals will get scheduled into the day. The premeds usually last a few hours so they just hangout in their runs or crates\/cages to chill while other animals have their surgeries.   When it's their time for surgery they usually feel pretty good (premeds make them feel a little loopy but easier to handle and quiet). Some with get IV lines placed to be able to induce anesthesia, and to have fluids during the procedure if that's something your doctor does. Then they get their induction agent, this is what makes then unconscious, most of the drugs used in animal med are similar to those used in people. When the animal is completely asleep and unconscious, they will get an endotracheal tube to help deliver oxygen and a vapor that will keep them asleep during the procedures.   When the procedure is done, the animal will be placed in a safe area, usually a cage or crate with blankets and someone watching to make sure they wake up safely and are not too anxious. (Pets don't always understand why they feel loopy). Once they are awake and not any danger to themselves they are left to sleep\/stay In a quiet area to recover. They usually have residual anesthesia or drugs in their systems still for a while after the procedure is done so the doctor will keep the pets for a few hours to make sure they are fully awake and walking before letting them go home.   Most procedures are pretty quick, but the before and after can take a while. This is just to ensure a safe and happy pet will go home after.   Hope this helps! If you have any questions you can ask.","human_ref_B":"It takes some time for staff to get bloodwork (if you didn\u2019t already have pre-surgical blood work done before), set up surgery rooms, and place catheters before a surgical procedure.  Not saying this is relevant in your case, but also in general animals should never be fed meals before surgery, and I\u2019m sure that bringing them in the early morning might prevent accidental feedings (whether that\u2019s habit or miscommunication between people in one household).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":119.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"o19vsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What happens to my dog when she\u2019s at the vet for surgery? I think this is a silly question, but I\u2019m curious. My dog went in to be spayed today, and I had to drop her off in the morning at 8am. The vet just called me (around 1pm) to tell me they were taking her in now. I know it\u2019s standard to drop them off several hours before surgery.   My question is, what exactly do they do all day before surgery starts and why do they have owners bring their pets in so early? Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?","c_root_id_A":"h1zru9y","c_root_id_B":"h1zs0fc","created_at_utc_A":1623865825,"created_at_utc_B":1623865897,"score_A":13,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"It can be difficult to predict exactly how long each surgery will take to complete. Having all of your surgery patients in hospital for the day means you can work through your surgical schedule much more efficiently. All patients are there, they can have any in-house pre anesthetic testing completed, they can have IVs placed so that as soon as one surgery is complete and recovering, the next one is ready to go. This also ensures that patients get ample recovery time and monitoring as clients are already prepared for this being a full day thing.  Trying to schedule surgery so that a client can bring their pet, wait and then bring them home in a set period of time is very very difficult. Clients arrive late, their surgery takes longer than anticipated, the pet recovers more slowly.... then complaints about waiting etc start.   It's so much nicer for everyone to drop off in the morning and pick up later. Your pet will get a comfy bed in a kennel or cage while they wait!","human_ref_B":"So different vets have different protocols but usually when the pets come in for surgery, there are a few animals that are done in one day. Most will have exams in the am and possibly bloodwork, and then they get pre-medication to help with anxiety and to lightly sedate them. This makes it easier to anesthetize as it's very difficult to anesthetize anxious animals (drugs take longer to take effect and side effects can be worse). Usually after exams and bloodwork is done, the animals will get scheduled into the day. The premeds usually last a few hours so they just hangout in their runs or crates\/cages to chill while other animals have their surgeries.   When it's their time for surgery they usually feel pretty good (premeds make them feel a little loopy but easier to handle and quiet). Some with get IV lines placed to be able to induce anesthesia, and to have fluids during the procedure if that's something your doctor does. Then they get their induction agent, this is what makes then unconscious, most of the drugs used in animal med are similar to those used in people. When the animal is completely asleep and unconscious, they will get an endotracheal tube to help deliver oxygen and a vapor that will keep them asleep during the procedures.   When the procedure is done, the animal will be placed in a safe area, usually a cage or crate with blankets and someone watching to make sure they wake up safely and are not too anxious. (Pets don't always understand why they feel loopy). Once they are awake and not any danger to themselves they are left to sleep\/stay In a quiet area to recover. They usually have residual anesthesia or drugs in their systems still for a while after the procedure is done so the doctor will keep the pets for a few hours to make sure they are fully awake and walking before letting them go home.   Most procedures are pretty quick, but the before and after can take a while. This is just to ensure a safe and happy pet will go home after.   Hope this helps! If you have any questions you can ask.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":72.0,"score_ratio":3.2307692308}
{"post_id":"o19vsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What happens to my dog when she\u2019s at the vet for surgery? I think this is a silly question, but I\u2019m curious. My dog went in to be spayed today, and I had to drop her off in the morning at 8am. The vet just called me (around 1pm) to tell me they were taking her in now. I know it\u2019s standard to drop them off several hours before surgery.   My question is, what exactly do they do all day before surgery starts and why do they have owners bring their pets in so early? Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?","c_root_id_A":"h20i5kr","c_root_id_B":"h1zrq9x","created_at_utc_A":1623877200,"created_at_utc_B":1623865778,"score_A":16,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":">why do they have owners bring their pets in so early?  Partly to improve work flow and logistics in clinic, and partly for owner compliance.  Late admits are more likely to be accidentally fed by owners (delaying procedures), and an earlier admit time also allows ample time to get all the patients in, all pre-anaesthetic checks\/bloods\/IV catheters\/etc done before the clinic gets busy.  An ancillary benefit is that if we get some no shows (reasonably common) we have the time to call someone on our waiting list to get them in sooner.  >Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?  Bit of both.  Sterile or \"clean\" surgeries will be done first, whereas \"dirty\" surgeries will be done last. Emergencies (usually admitted on the day) will be prioritised as and when.  In between all of this patients need to have a full clinical examination prior to general anaesthetic, bloods taken and run (if applicable), IV catheter placement, administration of their pre-med and sufficient time for it to act, etc.  This process can be relatively quick and straight forward, or in a particularly anxious\/aggressive\/sick patient this could take substantially longer (eg; allowing time for them to chill out, repeat attempts, premed topups, etc).","human_ref_B":"It takes some time for staff to get bloodwork (if you didn\u2019t already have pre-surgical blood work done before), set up surgery rooms, and place catheters before a surgical procedure.  Not saying this is relevant in your case, but also in general animals should never be fed meals before surgery, and I\u2019m sure that bringing them in the early morning might prevent accidental feedings (whether that\u2019s habit or miscommunication between people in one household).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11422.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"o19vsh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What happens to my dog when she\u2019s at the vet for surgery? I think this is a silly question, but I\u2019m curious. My dog went in to be spayed today, and I had to drop her off in the morning at 8am. The vet just called me (around 1pm) to tell me they were taking her in now. I know it\u2019s standard to drop them off several hours before surgery.   My question is, what exactly do they do all day before surgery starts and why do they have owners bring their pets in so early? Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?","c_root_id_A":"h1zru9y","c_root_id_B":"h20i5kr","created_at_utc_A":1623865825,"created_at_utc_B":1623877200,"score_A":13,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"It can be difficult to predict exactly how long each surgery will take to complete. Having all of your surgery patients in hospital for the day means you can work through your surgical schedule much more efficiently. All patients are there, they can have any in-house pre anesthetic testing completed, they can have IVs placed so that as soon as one surgery is complete and recovering, the next one is ready to go. This also ensures that patients get ample recovery time and monitoring as clients are already prepared for this being a full day thing.  Trying to schedule surgery so that a client can bring their pet, wait and then bring them home in a set period of time is very very difficult. Clients arrive late, their surgery takes longer than anticipated, the pet recovers more slowly.... then complaints about waiting etc start.   It's so much nicer for everyone to drop off in the morning and pick up later. Your pet will get a comfy bed in a kennel or cage while they wait!","human_ref_B":">why do they have owners bring their pets in so early?  Partly to improve work flow and logistics in clinic, and partly for owner compliance.  Late admits are more likely to be accidentally fed by owners (delaying procedures), and an earlier admit time also allows ample time to get all the patients in, all pre-anaesthetic checks\/bloods\/IV catheters\/etc done before the clinic gets busy.  An ancillary benefit is that if we get some no shows (reasonably common) we have the time to call someone on our waiting list to get them in sooner.  >Is there preparation that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of waiting for other pets to be finished before their surgery starts?  Bit of both.  Sterile or \"clean\" surgeries will be done first, whereas \"dirty\" surgeries will be done last. Emergencies (usually admitted on the day) will be prioritised as and when.  In between all of this patients need to have a full clinical examination prior to general anaesthetic, bloods taken and run (if applicable), IV catheter placement, administration of their pre-med and sufficient time for it to act, etc.  This process can be relatively quick and straight forward, or in a particularly anxious\/aggressive\/sick patient this could take substantially longer (eg; allowing time for them to chill out, repeat attempts, premed topups, etc).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11375.0,"score_ratio":1.2307692308}
{"post_id":"cdp85o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"[Meta] What I have learned from this sub It's an interesting change of perspective to read what owners want to talk about when they aren't talking to their vet. I could think of many ways in which this has impacted the way I practice, but the one single most important take-home message I've gotten from \/r\/askvet is as follows:  **Always, always, always instruct your clients to get back to you if the pet isn't improving on the treatment you're prescribing, and always specify an appropriate time frame by which they absolutely need to do so.**  The number of posters we get who seem to be unclear on what to do when the first line of treatment isn't working is staggering, and this is such an easily preventable cause of bad outcomes that I'm now really, really bringing that point home with every single client ever. Judging by this sub, it's really important to do so.  To any pet owners reading this, we often decide on the first course of treatment based on what problem is most likely to be causing the issue. We may be mistaken, and if we are, we'll have a Plan B -- but we can only use that Plan B and help your pet if you actually get back to us with updates.","c_root_id_A":"etvkvsr","c_root_id_B":"etvncag","created_at_utc_A":1563238053,"created_at_utc_B":1563239844,"score_A":6,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"This!   Communication is key!","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t forget to ask your techs\/assistants for help to remind you or the clients too! Communication is absolutely key but we get it. You have a MILLION things to think about and I can\u2019t count how many times I have said while checking out the client \u201cdo not hesitate to give us a call if you have any questions, concerns, etc\u201d as a general reminder because it wasn\u2019t said by the Dr.      Not saying you can\u2019t do it yourself - just a reminder we are just here to help :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1791.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"cdp85o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"[Meta] What I have learned from this sub It's an interesting change of perspective to read what owners want to talk about when they aren't talking to their vet. I could think of many ways in which this has impacted the way I practice, but the one single most important take-home message I've gotten from \/r\/askvet is as follows:  **Always, always, always instruct your clients to get back to you if the pet isn't improving on the treatment you're prescribing, and always specify an appropriate time frame by which they absolutely need to do so.**  The number of posters we get who seem to be unclear on what to do when the first line of treatment isn't working is staggering, and this is such an easily preventable cause of bad outcomes that I'm now really, really bringing that point home with every single client ever. Judging by this sub, it's really important to do so.  To any pet owners reading this, we often decide on the first course of treatment based on what problem is most likely to be causing the issue. We may be mistaken, and if we are, we'll have a Plan B -- but we can only use that Plan B and help your pet if you actually get back to us with updates.","c_root_id_A":"etvq0n9","c_root_id_B":"etvkvsr","created_at_utc_A":1563241787,"created_at_utc_B":1563238053,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I love this- thank you for being part of this sub and advising!  I love our vet, and knowing that they tell me to follow up if things don\u2019t improve AND usually follow up with a phone call the next day to check in means the world, especially since previous vets did not do this.","human_ref_B":"This!   Communication is key!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3734.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"cdp85o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"[Meta] What I have learned from this sub It's an interesting change of perspective to read what owners want to talk about when they aren't talking to their vet. I could think of many ways in which this has impacted the way I practice, but the one single most important take-home message I've gotten from \/r\/askvet is as follows:  **Always, always, always instruct your clients to get back to you if the pet isn't improving on the treatment you're prescribing, and always specify an appropriate time frame by which they absolutely need to do so.**  The number of posters we get who seem to be unclear on what to do when the first line of treatment isn't working is staggering, and this is such an easily preventable cause of bad outcomes that I'm now really, really bringing that point home with every single client ever. Judging by this sub, it's really important to do so.  To any pet owners reading this, we often decide on the first course of treatment based on what problem is most likely to be causing the issue. We may be mistaken, and if we are, we'll have a Plan B -- but we can only use that Plan B and help your pet if you actually get back to us with updates.","c_root_id_A":"etw8i5r","c_root_id_B":"etvtcjt","created_at_utc_A":1563258124,"created_at_utc_B":1563244197,"score_A":12,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"As a pet owner, might I make one suggestion to the vets who might be reading this? I\u2019ve been lucky enough to find a vet that is amazing and one of the things I love about them is that they call us after a visit. Every. Single. Time. It doesn\u2019t matter if it\u2019s a huge procedure or a quick checkup, they always call us a day or two later to check in. Now I know many of you don\u2019t have the staff or resources to do this, especially for every patient, but if you could do it for the ones you\u2019re worried about, the ones who are likely to need it, I\u2019d bet it would do a world of good.","human_ref_B":"Happy to see this. I\u2019ve been into my vet 4 times this Month already just adjusting my dogs treatment as I was unsure and noticing new symptoms etc. I kinda felt embarrassed and that maybe I was being a pain in the ass but I feel more assured doing so.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13927.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"cdp85o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"[Meta] What I have learned from this sub It's an interesting change of perspective to read what owners want to talk about when they aren't talking to their vet. I could think of many ways in which this has impacted the way I practice, but the one single most important take-home message I've gotten from \/r\/askvet is as follows:  **Always, always, always instruct your clients to get back to you if the pet isn't improving on the treatment you're prescribing, and always specify an appropriate time frame by which they absolutely need to do so.**  The number of posters we get who seem to be unclear on what to do when the first line of treatment isn't working is staggering, and this is such an easily preventable cause of bad outcomes that I'm now really, really bringing that point home with every single client ever. Judging by this sub, it's really important to do so.  To any pet owners reading this, we often decide on the first course of treatment based on what problem is most likely to be causing the issue. We may be mistaken, and if we are, we'll have a Plan B -- but we can only use that Plan B and help your pet if you actually get back to us with updates.","c_root_id_A":"etvkvsr","c_root_id_B":"etw8i5r","created_at_utc_A":1563238053,"created_at_utc_B":1563258124,"score_A":6,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"This!   Communication is key!","human_ref_B":"As a pet owner, might I make one suggestion to the vets who might be reading this? I\u2019ve been lucky enough to find a vet that is amazing and one of the things I love about them is that they call us after a visit. Every. Single. Time. It doesn\u2019t matter if it\u2019s a huge procedure or a quick checkup, they always call us a day or two later to check in. Now I know many of you don\u2019t have the staff or resources to do this, especially for every patient, but if you could do it for the ones you\u2019re worried about, the ones who are likely to need it, I\u2019d bet it would do a world of good.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20071.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"cdp85o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"[Meta] What I have learned from this sub It's an interesting change of perspective to read what owners want to talk about when they aren't talking to their vet. I could think of many ways in which this has impacted the way I practice, but the one single most important take-home message I've gotten from \/r\/askvet is as follows:  **Always, always, always instruct your clients to get back to you if the pet isn't improving on the treatment you're prescribing, and always specify an appropriate time frame by which they absolutely need to do so.**  The number of posters we get who seem to be unclear on what to do when the first line of treatment isn't working is staggering, and this is such an easily preventable cause of bad outcomes that I'm now really, really bringing that point home with every single client ever. Judging by this sub, it's really important to do so.  To any pet owners reading this, we often decide on the first course of treatment based on what problem is most likely to be causing the issue. We may be mistaken, and if we are, we'll have a Plan B -- but we can only use that Plan B and help your pet if you actually get back to us with updates.","c_root_id_A":"etvtcjt","c_root_id_B":"etvkvsr","created_at_utc_A":1563244197,"created_at_utc_B":1563238053,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Happy to see this. I\u2019ve been into my vet 4 times this Month already just adjusting my dogs treatment as I was unsure and noticing new symptoms etc. I kinda felt embarrassed and that maybe I was being a pain in the ass but I feel more assured doing so.","human_ref_B":"This!   Communication is key!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6144.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bo89d","c_root_id_B":"f8bsl5z","created_at_utc_A":1574441490,"created_at_utc_B":1574444364,"score_A":9,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"So, SO sorry for your loss. He was so loved and looked like such a sweet pup. Please share the results of the necropsy when you can, we would love to learn from Rowan to help us help more dogs in the future.","human_ref_B":"Sorry to hear that. Consider posting to \/r\/petloss if you would like to talk about it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2874.0,"score_ratio":1.7777777778}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bjig6","c_root_id_B":"f8bsl5z","created_at_utc_A":1574438349,"created_at_utc_B":1574444364,"score_A":6,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Sorry to hear that. Consider posting to \/r\/petloss if you would like to talk about it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6015.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bsl5z","c_root_id_B":"f8bjwt4","created_at_utc_A":1574444364,"created_at_utc_B":1574438618,"score_A":16,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Sorry to hear that. Consider posting to \/r\/petloss if you would like to talk about it.","human_ref_B":"Im sorry for your loss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5746.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bjig6","c_root_id_B":"f8bo89d","created_at_utc_A":1574438349,"created_at_utc_B":1574441490,"score_A":6,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"So, SO sorry for your loss. He was so loved and looked like such a sweet pup. Please share the results of the necropsy when you can, we would love to learn from Rowan to help us help more dogs in the future.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3141.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bo89d","c_root_id_B":"f8bjwt4","created_at_utc_A":1574441490,"created_at_utc_B":1574438618,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"So, SO sorry for your loss. He was so loved and looked like such a sweet pup. Please share the results of the necropsy when you can, we would love to learn from Rowan to help us help more dogs in the future.","human_ref_B":"Im sorry for your loss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2872.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"e013av","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Update] ideopathic pleural effusion - hug your dogs for us Hi everyone, I recently made [this post about Rowan's ideopathic pleural effusion - see this post for all his test \/ vet information. I didn't get any responses but thought you might like an update. We seemed to be left with two options - exploratory surgery or stop treatment \/ put him to sleep. This was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. He was very weak and had been tapped ~10 times about every 5 days with fibrin build up starting to become a real issue. He had a feeding tube installed at his last surgery and hadn't eaten on his own since Monday. He was even struggling to keep the feeding tube food down. The chances of us fining something treatable during exploratory surgery were so low at this point, and we weren't sure if he'd even survive the surgery. He had two CT scans that were clear.    Last night we put him to sleep surrounded by his mom (me), dad, and pup sister. He died peacefully and comfortably in his bed. We had spent the day playing with all his favorite toys that he hadn't been allowed to play with in weeks (due to keeping him calm). We stopped at Starbucks for a puppaccino. We went to the park across the street and sat and smelled all the smells and listened to the kids and enjoyed the weather. We also cooked him a nice rare steak and he ate on his own for the first time in 4 days.   He will be missed so incredibly much. We are doing a necropsy to try to figure out the cause of his pleural effusion. I hope we can tell his doctors and they can maybe help another dog with the same symptoms in the future.   Hold your dogs tight and give them extra love from us.","c_root_id_A":"f8bjig6","c_root_id_B":"f8bjwt4","created_at_utc_A":1574438349,"created_at_utc_B":1574438618,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Im sorry for your loss","labels":0,"seconds_difference":269.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j06ypsk","c_root_id_B":"j060a7o","created_at_utc_A":1671029891,"created_at_utc_B":1671008156,"score_A":143,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like all parties are better off if you find a new clinic.","human_ref_B":">if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient  This is bizarre behavior. I have occasionally had a client sign an AMA form, but this is in order to try to get a client to acknowledge a severe medical problem in order to help the patient. I have had many clients not pay there bills, but I have never once tried to blackmail or guilt them into paying their bill. The clinic is trying to bully you, and do exactly what they accused you of. I would no longer trust this practice and think it would be in your best interest to mutually part ways.   There also appears to be a miscommunication about the benadryl. If a patient has had a previous vaccine reaction, spreading out vaccines over multiple visits as well as PRE-medicating with benadryl at least 30-60 min prior to vaccination. Having benadryl at home  does not help in this situation unless you were instructed to give a dose before coming in for your appointment. However when you declined benadryl at the hospital this reasoning should have been explained to. If the veterinarian knew you specifically declined giving a specific medication to your dog it should not have been given without your consent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21735.0,"score_ratio":1.6823529412}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j06ypsk","c_root_id_B":"j06ogvz","created_at_utc_A":1671029891,"created_at_utc_B":1671025302,"score_A":143,"score_B":74,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like all parties are better off if you find a new clinic.","human_ref_B":"If there are other great vets in the area, I would part ways over this. Not because of the cost itself, but how the miscommunication was handled, which isn't professional.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4589.0,"score_ratio":1.9324324324}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j06ypsk","c_root_id_B":"j06lxrl","created_at_utc_A":1671029891,"created_at_utc_B":1671024004,"score_A":143,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like all parties are better off if you find a new clinic.","human_ref_B":"A nurse was aggressive while returning your crying dog? Any vet that doesn\u2019t treat my animals right would be my former vet. Not sure about your situation but, a few red flags that would have me seriously considering if it isn\u2019t time to move on. Hopefully you\u2019re in an area w a decent number of other vets. Best wishes for you and your pup","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5887.0,"score_ratio":2.2698412698}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j06ogvz","c_root_id_B":"j06lxrl","created_at_utc_A":1671025302,"created_at_utc_B":1671024004,"score_A":74,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"If there are other great vets in the area, I would part ways over this. Not because of the cost itself, but how the miscommunication was handled, which isn't professional.","human_ref_B":"A nurse was aggressive while returning your crying dog? Any vet that doesn\u2019t treat my animals right would be my former vet. Not sure about your situation but, a few red flags that would have me seriously considering if it isn\u2019t time to move on. Hopefully you\u2019re in an area w a decent number of other vets. Best wishes for you and your pup","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1298.0,"score_ratio":1.1746031746}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j073puv","c_root_id_B":"j07awjv","created_at_utc_A":1671031946,"created_at_utc_B":1671034783,"score_A":31,"score_B":47,"human_ref_A":"Personally I would try and find another vet, as this was handled so unprofessionally.","human_ref_B":"Every one of my clients has an estimate they sign to approve of the charges before we do anything (even Tech appointments for just a nail trim). Every clinic works a bit different, but if they are truly not willing to be upfront of the costs before services are rendered, I would not be interested in going back to that clinic. Though it sounds like this was an honest mistake\/miscommunication between staff.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2837.0,"score_ratio":1.5161290323}
{"post_id":"zlk5ks","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Vet is trying to get me to sign a waiver saying I guilted them into making an exception. Will part ways if I don't comply. I'm going to redact any identifiable information as I'm not in the business of blowing up someone's business on the internet, but I feel like this is worth sharing to understand if I am in the wrong here.  We took our dog to the vet we've been seeing for a year last week for vaccines. They said that they wanted to break up the vaccines into two visits to ensure the dog doesn't get upset from the vaccines. Nothing out of the ordinary I suppose and I had no issues with that. They stated that the next appointment would be at the \"vet tech\" rate which was much cheaper ($60 or so).   After the first round of vaccines the dog had what seemed to be an allergic reaction, so we gave her some Benadryl that the vet had previously prescribed. This helped her get to sleep and she was fine the next day.   Fast forward a few days to the second appointment, and I told the vet about the reaction. They mentioned that they could give her some Benadryl while she was there this time. I told them no need, as we still had some at home, however, if they felt it was necessary to administer it, then to give me a call and let me know beforehand about the added cost.   The vet still requires you to wait in your car (due to covid), so I waited for the call after the appointment and they said the cost for the visit was $180, with an added $60 charge for the Benadryl! This is not the first time they've tacked things on without consent, so I very calmly told them that we've spent thousands of dollars at their clinic over the last year and that I explicitly asked for consent before administering anything if they went that route. I'm always open to paying for their services but I'm not happy to do this without some explanation of why, and an upfront estimate (She stated to me that they can't give estimates, maybe there is a reason for this).   She then put me on hold for over 20 minutes, came back, and said she admits to miscommunication and will give me a 20% discount on the Benadryl. I calmly stated that while I appreciate the offer, I don't feel as if they listened to me when I told them I already had the medication at home. She then put me on hold for another 15 minutes, came back, and said \"I can give you a 50% discount on the Benadryl\". I told them at this point that they can charge what they like, and I just wanted my dog back so I can leave as it had been close to an hour and a half.   They had a nurse come out who very aggressively gave me the leash to my crying dog without saying a word and then stormed back inside.   Later that night, my partner approached me with an angry email from the vet office staff saying that I tried to guilt them into not paying for treatment and that if I don't sign an attached legal waiver stating I was in the wrong and that I will no longer question their billing practices or guilt them into making \"exceptions\", that they will have to drop our dog as a patient. Not once did I say I wasn't going to pay, I even told them to charge me whatever they wanted as I just wanted to leave.   I'm going to stand by the fact that I was calm, collected, and simply asked them to be upfront with me about this. By cc'ing my partner they caused even more issues for me. A lot more issues (maybe that was their intention, who knows).  I don't really have a problem signing the waiver, as being right or wrong about $60 is not worth the time or effort, however, I want to know what my options are in terms of getting some kind of transparency from them for their services without striking their seeming sensitive nerves around money. Is this normal behavior? I've never encountered this before really at any business","c_root_id_A":"j07awjv","c_root_id_B":"j077gl6","created_at_utc_A":1671034783,"created_at_utc_B":1671033413,"score_A":47,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Every one of my clients has an estimate they sign to approve of the charges before we do anything (even Tech appointments for just a nail trim). Every clinic works a bit different, but if they are truly not willing to be upfront of the costs before services are rendered, I would not be interested in going back to that clinic. Though it sounds like this was an honest mistake\/miscommunication between staff.","human_ref_B":"I would wash my hands clean of this vet and find a new on. It\u2019s the same for your pets as it is for your family, just a little less costly. First, there is no reason you can\u2019t stay with your animal, CoVid or not, that\u2019s a huge red flag for me. Second they must communicate charges and changes in all procedures. It has nothing to do with how much you have or haven\u2019t spent. Every family and pet should be treated with respect and dignity. If they can\u2019t do that then they shouldn\u2019t be a vet clinic.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1370.0,"score_ratio":2.6111111111}
{"post_id":"qjburc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Dog bit me and cried during euthanasia My dog got euthanized today.. she was very young and oh so loving. But during the first shot, the sedative, she started panicking and kept biting my hand and she cried so loud. My hand started bleeding because of the bites.. 30 seconds later which felt like 30 hours she got sleepy and lied down.. the second shot went peaceful.   Why did my dog cry out so bad and bit me..? This dog was my world and my baby and I feel so guilty that her final moment was in total panick. I need to know the truth why this happened.. what could have possibly gone wrong?","c_root_id_A":"hipffay","c_root_id_B":"hipzef8","created_at_utc_A":1635638429,"created_at_utc_B":1635648622,"score_A":61,"score_B":135,"human_ref_A":"First I just want to say I\u2019m so sorry for your loss :( The main thing that comes to mind is that the first shot tends to feel (from what I was told) cold and uncomfortable, so most likely she didn\u2019t like that feeling and it upset her and just bit out of panic. If she was sick in some way it might\u2019ve caused her to be slightly more uncomfortable. Again I\u2019m really sorry it\u2019s always tragic to lose our furry friends. May she rest peacefully on the other side of the rainbow bridge.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m gonna try to post a link to a previous explanation on this sub that framed it well: if it doesn\u2019t work, please forgive me, I\u2019ll try again!   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/pq9zuu\/why_have_all_my_dogs_had_traumatic_euthanasia\/hdalah8\/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3  Did it work???","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10193.0,"score_ratio":2.2131147541}
{"post_id":"qjburc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Dog bit me and cried during euthanasia My dog got euthanized today.. she was very young and oh so loving. But during the first shot, the sedative, she started panicking and kept biting my hand and she cried so loud. My hand started bleeding because of the bites.. 30 seconds later which felt like 30 hours she got sleepy and lied down.. the second shot went peaceful.   Why did my dog cry out so bad and bit me..? This dog was my world and my baby and I feel so guilty that her final moment was in total panick. I need to know the truth why this happened.. what could have possibly gone wrong?","c_root_id_A":"hipzef8","c_root_id_B":"hipewkw","created_at_utc_A":1635648622,"created_at_utc_B":1635638161,"score_A":135,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m gonna try to post a link to a previous explanation on this sub that framed it well: if it doesn\u2019t work, please forgive me, I\u2019ll try again!   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/pq9zuu\/why_have_all_my_dogs_had_traumatic_euthanasia\/hdalah8\/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3  Did it work???","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but assistant. Depending on what the vet used, the injection may sting and take the animal by surprise. Some may try to claw\/bite you because they start to panic. I'm sorry you had to experience this in her last moments.  I am very sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10461.0,"score_ratio":2.7}
{"post_id":"qjburc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Dog bit me and cried during euthanasia My dog got euthanized today.. she was very young and oh so loving. But during the first shot, the sedative, she started panicking and kept biting my hand and she cried so loud. My hand started bleeding because of the bites.. 30 seconds later which felt like 30 hours she got sleepy and lied down.. the second shot went peaceful.   Why did my dog cry out so bad and bit me..? This dog was my world and my baby and I feel so guilty that her final moment was in total panick. I need to know the truth why this happened.. what could have possibly gone wrong?","c_root_id_A":"hipewkw","c_root_id_B":"hipffay","created_at_utc_A":1635638161,"created_at_utc_B":1635638429,"score_A":50,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but assistant. Depending on what the vet used, the injection may sting and take the animal by surprise. Some may try to claw\/bite you because they start to panic. I'm sorry you had to experience this in her last moments.  I am very sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace...","human_ref_B":"First I just want to say I\u2019m so sorry for your loss :( The main thing that comes to mind is that the first shot tends to feel (from what I was told) cold and uncomfortable, so most likely she didn\u2019t like that feeling and it upset her and just bit out of panic. If she was sick in some way it might\u2019ve caused her to be slightly more uncomfortable. Again I\u2019m really sorry it\u2019s always tragic to lose our furry friends. May she rest peacefully on the other side of the rainbow bridge.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":268.0,"score_ratio":1.22}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdg70nl","c_root_id_B":"gdgjcvu","created_at_utc_A":1606230987,"created_at_utc_B":1606236753,"score_A":2,"score_B":239,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"If you are feeding a kidney diet you should not be feeding additional protein as the diet is designed to decrease protein, sodium, and phosphorus specifically. Have you discussed your pets hunger with your vet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5766.0,"score_ratio":119.5}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdh90tf","c_root_id_B":"gdg70nl","created_at_utc_A":1606248617,"created_at_utc_B":1606230987,"score_A":45,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"bring this up to your vet please. sticking to the kidney diet is key to keeping them going and not doing further damage, and anything else (as you probably know) will do more damage. your vet should be able to give some guidance.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17630.0,"score_ratio":22.5}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdhbej4","c_root_id_B":"gdh9cwo","created_at_utc_A":1606249742,"created_at_utc_B":1606248775,"score_A":30,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"you can try feeding smaller meals more frequently so that he is getting the same quantity, but spread out so he is eating more often.","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet about adding canned green beans to his diet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":967.0,"score_ratio":1.7647058824}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdhaa6x","c_root_id_B":"gdhbej4","created_at_utc_A":1606249211,"created_at_utc_B":1606249742,"score_A":9,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Have you done a full blood work panel ?","human_ref_B":"you can try feeding smaller meals more frequently so that he is getting the same quantity, but spread out so he is eating more often.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":531.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdg70nl","c_root_id_B":"gdhbej4","created_at_utc_A":1606230987,"created_at_utc_B":1606249742,"score_A":2,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"you can try feeding smaller meals more frequently so that he is getting the same quantity, but spread out so he is eating more often.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18755.0,"score_ratio":15.0}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdg70nl","c_root_id_B":"gdh9cwo","created_at_utc_A":1606230987,"created_at_utc_B":1606248775,"score_A":2,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet about adding canned green beans to his diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17788.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdhaa6x","c_root_id_B":"gdi62bt","created_at_utc_A":1606249211,"created_at_utc_B":1606265411,"score_A":9,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Have you done a full blood work panel ?","human_ref_B":"Has he been assessed by a veterinarian for  pica, intestinal parasites, anxiety?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16200.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdi62bt","c_root_id_B":"gdg70nl","created_at_utc_A":1606265411,"created_at_utc_B":1606230987,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Has he been assessed by a veterinarian for  pica, intestinal parasites, anxiety?","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":34424.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdi62bt","c_root_id_B":"gdhbuft","created_at_utc_A":1606265411,"created_at_utc_B":1606249952,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Has he been assessed by a veterinarian for  pica, intestinal parasites, anxiety?","human_ref_B":"Go to the vet or at least call","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15459.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"k06tnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is being tortured by constant hunger. Please help. I've posted twice before but get no response, so hopefully someone can help me because I am at my wit's end.  My dog, a male black lab of 12 years, is in the early stages of chronic kidney disease and was placed on a prescription diet. Since then, he has been constantly hungry, to the point that he eats just about anything he can find on the ground. This is primarily poop, some nuts, and whatever candy or leftover food people leave on the ground during our walks.  He begs for food constantly, literally right after eating he will beg for more. He was never like this.  What can I do to satiate his hunger? He seems truly miserable being hungry all the time. Adding additional protein sources makes him vomit, though I do give him a quarter cup of a maintenance diet to try to help, but I think it does little for him.","c_root_id_A":"gdg70nl","c_root_id_B":"gdhaa6x","created_at_utc_A":1606230987,"created_at_utc_B":1606249211,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Have you done a full blood work panel ?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18224.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"gqbqfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat just fell from a sixth story window. She seems absolutely fine but should i be worried? My 6 month old siberian cat tore the screen of the bedroom window and possibly fell. I woke up and couldn\u2019t find her and when i noticed the hole in the screen i saw she was outside in the parking lot.  I went and got her and examined her. Legs are not broken, teeth and palette are intact.  She still can run around and jump and she eats normally.  Any cause for concern still? Vets are still closed where i am and i will struggle to afford an emergency clinic if not necessary","c_root_id_A":"frsau4t","c_root_id_B":"frrsf67","created_at_utc_A":1590427525,"created_at_utc_B":1590417718,"score_A":79,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Although cats are amazing at falling, six stories is really high. Even if she didn't break a leg, she could have sustained internal injuries that wouldn't be immediately obvious. The safest thing to do would be to have her checked out at the emergency clinic. You could closely monitor her at home, but take her in at the first sign something is wrong. Any lethargy, loss of appetite, vomiting, straining to urinate or defecate, no urination, trouble breathing... If she's ok today, I would still have your vet check her out tomorrow.","human_ref_B":"I'm not sure about your specific location, but my local humane society offers many, many different incredible services, including wellness checks. They typically can provide same day care, and have been considered essential during these times. I highly suggest looking into it, or giving them a call and explain the situation.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9807.0,"score_ratio":2.724137931}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47a73k","c_root_id_B":"e4760u3","created_at_utc_A":1534287829,"created_at_utc_B":1534283861,"score_A":46,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"We appreciate your help in this sub, too.","human_ref_B":"We love our vet, and make sure that we tell her all the time. We also refer new clients any chance we can. She\u2019s a house call vet and is amazing!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3968.0,"score_ratio":2.4210526316}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47a73k","c_root_id_B":"e474lru","created_at_utc_A":1534287829,"created_at_utc_B":1534282583,"score_A":46,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"We appreciate your help in this sub, too.","human_ref_B":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5246.0,"score_ratio":4.6}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e4760u3","c_root_id_B":"e474lru","created_at_utc_A":1534283861,"created_at_utc_B":1534282583,"score_A":19,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"We love our vet, and make sure that we tell her all the time. We also refer new clients any chance we can. She\u2019s a house call vet and is amazing!","human_ref_B":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1278.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e474lru","c_root_id_B":"e47aiz6","created_at_utc_A":1534282583,"created_at_utc_B":1534288156,"score_A":10,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","human_ref_B":"We love our vet. She was so helpful with a very sick kitten we had taken in that ultimately had to be put down due to FIP. Their office sent me a sympathy card and I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever cried so much and felt that they genuinely cared.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5573.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47by5t","c_root_id_B":"e474lru","created_at_utc_A":1534289588,"created_at_utc_B":1534282583,"score_A":16,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My vet was awesome and accepted payment over the phone from a rescue group I associate with. I make custom made soaps lotions and bath products and I was thinking about bringing some to them as a thank you what do you suggest not doing that or would it be okay","human_ref_B":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7005.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47egj9","c_root_id_B":"e474lru","created_at_utc_A":1534292109,"created_at_utc_B":1534282583,"score_A":13,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My little man had surgery today. I picked up some cookies for the office but do you think a gift card for the surgeon herself would also be appropriate or would that be awkward?","human_ref_B":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9526.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47sqdw","c_root_id_B":"e47ertu","created_at_utc_A":1534307308,"created_at_utc_B":1534292423,"score_A":13,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Seriously. Some days are so hard, especially days where a patient you work your butt off trying to save doesn\u2019t make it, or you have to euthanize a patient you\u2019ve seen for 12 years since it was adopted. It\u2019s hard on the owners, but it really does take a toll on the clinic staff, too. One of the most intelligent, professional doctors I\u2019ve ever worked for always kept her composure in the exam room (especially during euthanasia), but there were a few times where the second she made it to the back of the hospital, she burst into tears and had a breakdown. Quick breakdowns, but they were the the-world-is-ending-everything-sucks breakdowns. We truly do love your pets, too. Many times, we\u2019re hurting with you.","human_ref_B":"Hey, I was wondering, what small things can we do as clients to make your job easier?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14885.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e474lru","c_root_id_B":"e47sqdw","created_at_utc_A":1534282583,"created_at_utc_B":1534307308,"score_A":10,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","human_ref_B":"Seriously. Some days are so hard, especially days where a patient you work your butt off trying to save doesn\u2019t make it, or you have to euthanize a patient you\u2019ve seen for 12 years since it was adopted. It\u2019s hard on the owners, but it really does take a toll on the clinic staff, too. One of the most intelligent, professional doctors I\u2019ve ever worked for always kept her composure in the exam room (especially during euthanasia), but there were a few times where the second she made it to the back of the hospital, she burst into tears and had a breakdown. Quick breakdowns, but they were the the-world-is-ending-everything-sucks breakdowns. We truly do love your pets, too. Many times, we\u2019re hurting with you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24725.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47mxw5","c_root_id_B":"e47sqdw","created_at_utc_A":1534300590,"created_at_utc_B":1534307308,"score_A":8,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for all that you do! Without people like your are beloved furry family members would not receive the care they need! Thank you!","human_ref_B":"Seriously. Some days are so hard, especially days where a patient you work your butt off trying to save doesn\u2019t make it, or you have to euthanize a patient you\u2019ve seen for 12 years since it was adopted. It\u2019s hard on the owners, but it really does take a toll on the clinic staff, too. One of the most intelligent, professional doctors I\u2019ve ever worked for always kept her composure in the exam room (especially during euthanasia), but there were a few times where the second she made it to the back of the hospital, she burst into tears and had a breakdown. Quick breakdowns, but they were the the-world-is-ending-everything-sucks breakdowns. We truly do love your pets, too. Many times, we\u2019re hurting with you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6718.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47ertu","c_root_id_B":"e474lru","created_at_utc_A":1534292423,"created_at_utc_B":1534282583,"score_A":12,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Hey, I was wondering, what small things can we do as clients to make your job easier?","human_ref_B":"Great reminder.   Happy cake day! Hope it's an excellent one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9840.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47ul0l","c_root_id_B":"e47mxw5","created_at_utc_A":1534309845,"created_at_utc_B":1534300590,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Don't forget about the clinic's certified\/registered\/licensed techs, vet assistants and receptionists. We all work as a team to help your non-human babies. and nothing makes us happier than to see them walk out that door better than they came in.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for all that you do! Without people like your are beloved furry family members would not receive the care they need! Thank you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9255.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"97c2pj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dear Clients The job we work is not an easy one. Some days, and some cases, are very challenging.  If you're happy with your veterinarian let them know. You don't need to get fancy gifts or go out of your way. Just a simple \"I appreciate you, thank you for helping me\" can go a long way. Clients that have reached out to me like this were able to put a smile on my face and pull me through the most challenging of days.  Good clients are appreciated, good clients are loved. Thank you to everyone who is kind, patient, and understanding with your veterinarian. After all, we're only human too.","c_root_id_A":"e47mxw5","c_root_id_B":"e47vvx7","created_at_utc_A":1534300590,"created_at_utc_B":1534311819,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for all that you do! Without people like your are beloved furry family members would not receive the care they need! Thank you!","human_ref_B":"I had a euthanasia appointment today.  I had never met the clients (am baby vet, only been at my clinic 3 weeks).  Before they chose to step out of the room, one of them turned to me and thanked me and the clinic for all the help with their dog throughout the years and said that they appreciated our kindness and support, and said God bless you.  Just this small little bit of thanks from a person I have never met before in my life meant so much, especially in a situation that's sad for everybody involved.  It was such a kind gesture.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11229.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"q1s3fd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My vet sent me a list of potential sources for financial support if your fur baby is sick Here are some financial resources to consider:  -CareCredit is a healthcare credit account. If approved you can make payments on vet bills. Many clinics accept Care Credit, so you\u2019ll want to check with the specific clinic about their process for accepting payments. You can apply for credit online at:\u00a0carecredit.com  -You may want to look into ScratchPay. It\u2019s not a credit card, but rather a payment plan for pet medical expenses. Here is a link with information:\u00a0scratchpay.com -And\u00a0vetbilling.com.  The first two companies have low interest APR rates (starting at 5%) and allow you to pay for a vet bill over 6-24 months. The last company offers a billing option for veterinary clients through automatic bank account drafting on a predetermined date at the time of service. Care Credit checks your credit but Scratch Pay only performs a soft inquiry (will not affect your credit score), making it a good choice for owners who may have been declined for Care Credit in the past.  And here is an extensive list of other organizations that may provide assistance: 1) Red Rover:\u00a0redrover.org\/relief 2) Best friends:\u00a0bestfriends.org\/resources\/financial-aid-pets 3) AVMA:\u00a0avma.org\/public\/YourVet\/Pages\/Financial-assistance-for-veterinary-care-costs.aspx 4) HSUS:\u00a0humanesociety.org\/animals\/resources\/tips\/trouble_affording_veterinary_care.html\u00a0or\u00a0humanesociety.org\/resources\/are-you-having-trouble-affording-your-pet 5) PAWS:\u00a0paws.org\/cats-and-dogs\/other-services\/help-with-veterinary-bills 6) Your dogs friend:\u00a0yourdogsfriend.org\/we-recommend\/need-help-paying-vet-bills 7) AFRP:\u00a0animalfriendsrescue.org\/financialassistance.html 8) Friends of pets:\u00a0friendsofpets.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/FinAsstGuide201708.pdf 9) Speaking for Spot:\u00a0speakingforspot.com\/?p=Financial\u00a0Assistance for Veterinary Care 10) Rainbows Bridge:\u00a0rainbowsbridge.com\/New_Beginnings\/Pets_in_Need\/Financial_Help.htm 11) AHF:\u00a0animalhealthfoundation.net\/index.html 12) Paws 4 a cure:\u00a0paws4acure.org\/askforhelp.php 13) O&B:\u00a0onyxandbreezy.org\/grant-application.html 14) Mosby:\u00a0themosbyfoundation.org\/apply-for-assistance 15) BDF:\u00a0browndogfoundation.org\/process 16) Waggle:\u00a0waggle.org\/who-we-are\/how-we-work\u00a0(this company helps with veterinary-specific crowdfunding to their database of donors) 17) Go Fund Me:\u00a0gofundme.com\/c\/blog\/help-with-vet-bills 18) The Pet Fund:\u00a0thepetfund.com  If you are a veteran or active-duty, consider VETERAN PET FINANCIAL HELP available here:  spcai.org\/get-involved\/military-support\/operation-military-pets humanesociety.org\/resources\/are-you-having-trouble-affording-your-pet veteransfamiliesunited.org\/financial-assistance  petsforpatriots.org\/help-with-pet-veterinary-costs  operationwearehere.com\/Pets.html","c_root_id_A":"hfhc1cq","c_root_id_B":"hfhc1rg","created_at_utc_A":1633443263,"created_at_utc_B":1633443268,"score_A":3,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"This is really useful. You should post this on r\/LifeProTips maybe or some other advice sub!","human_ref_B":"I don't know if this is good or bad as a recommendation, and may not be an option for some. However, you might also want to look into pet insurance. I got PetsBest insurance for my Blue Heeler Mix, pay less than $50\/mo for it.   I pay a $250 deductible if anything happens to my pup, and after that I get 90% of any other vet bills paid for by the policy. My total annual premium is about $385. This is however for sickness or injury.  I also pay an annual premium of $192 for their essential wellness plan, which reimburses portions of regular vet visits, vaccines, and other heartworm, flea\/tick, and deworming things.   I'm glad I got it when he was a puppy, because it actually saved me about $5,000+ in vet bills over the past 2 years. He decided to eat things that he shouldn't have eaten which caused us to get his stomach pumped a couple of times, and he also tried to jump our cinderblock wall chasing a bird and tore off his dewclaws on both front paws.   There are other insurance companies out there. Your bank\/credit union might have discounts on policies with some of those companies. I did quite a bit of research to pick which one I wanted. I think I pay a bit higher than others at my ~$50\/mo because I wanted the low deductible and high percentage reimbursement for any incidents.  EDIT: I forgot to mention this pet insurance is a little bit different than health insurance. It is similar, in that it is basically health insurance for your pet, however the billing\/payment is different. It is all reimbursement based. So basically, if you take your pet to the vet after some sickness\/injury occurs, and they charge you $2,000, you pay the $2,000 to the vet. If you have the carecredit card or any other credit card, you can use that to pay the upfront cost at the Vet. Then, you submit your itemized bill\/receipt to the insurance for reimbursement. Reimbursement can sometimes take a few weeks. I don't think I ever waited longer than 5-6 weeks. The reimbursement comes in (in my case) at around $1600 after they would take the deductible and the 90% reimbursement rate. So essentially, I pay the $250 deductible plus 10% of the bill. However, if in the same billing year something else happens, and I already paid the $250 deductible for that year, just like health insurance, I then only need to pay the 10% portion of the vet bill and the insurance reimburses the full 90%. Maybe hard to explain, but still a good option to take care of your pet IMO.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"q1s3fd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My vet sent me a list of potential sources for financial support if your fur baby is sick Here are some financial resources to consider:  -CareCredit is a healthcare credit account. If approved you can make payments on vet bills. Many clinics accept Care Credit, so you\u2019ll want to check with the specific clinic about their process for accepting payments. You can apply for credit online at:\u00a0carecredit.com  -You may want to look into ScratchPay. It\u2019s not a credit card, but rather a payment plan for pet medical expenses. Here is a link with information:\u00a0scratchpay.com -And\u00a0vetbilling.com.  The first two companies have low interest APR rates (starting at 5%) and allow you to pay for a vet bill over 6-24 months. The last company offers a billing option for veterinary clients through automatic bank account drafting on a predetermined date at the time of service. Care Credit checks your credit but Scratch Pay only performs a soft inquiry (will not affect your credit score), making it a good choice for owners who may have been declined for Care Credit in the past.  And here is an extensive list of other organizations that may provide assistance: 1) Red Rover:\u00a0redrover.org\/relief 2) Best friends:\u00a0bestfriends.org\/resources\/financial-aid-pets 3) AVMA:\u00a0avma.org\/public\/YourVet\/Pages\/Financial-assistance-for-veterinary-care-costs.aspx 4) HSUS:\u00a0humanesociety.org\/animals\/resources\/tips\/trouble_affording_veterinary_care.html\u00a0or\u00a0humanesociety.org\/resources\/are-you-having-trouble-affording-your-pet 5) PAWS:\u00a0paws.org\/cats-and-dogs\/other-services\/help-with-veterinary-bills 6) Your dogs friend:\u00a0yourdogsfriend.org\/we-recommend\/need-help-paying-vet-bills 7) AFRP:\u00a0animalfriendsrescue.org\/financialassistance.html 8) Friends of pets:\u00a0friendsofpets.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/FinAsstGuide201708.pdf 9) Speaking for Spot:\u00a0speakingforspot.com\/?p=Financial\u00a0Assistance for Veterinary Care 10) Rainbows Bridge:\u00a0rainbowsbridge.com\/New_Beginnings\/Pets_in_Need\/Financial_Help.htm 11) AHF:\u00a0animalhealthfoundation.net\/index.html 12) Paws 4 a cure:\u00a0paws4acure.org\/askforhelp.php 13) O&B:\u00a0onyxandbreezy.org\/grant-application.html 14) Mosby:\u00a0themosbyfoundation.org\/apply-for-assistance 15) BDF:\u00a0browndogfoundation.org\/process 16) Waggle:\u00a0waggle.org\/who-we-are\/how-we-work\u00a0(this company helps with veterinary-specific crowdfunding to their database of donors) 17) Go Fund Me:\u00a0gofundme.com\/c\/blog\/help-with-vet-bills 18) The Pet Fund:\u00a0thepetfund.com  If you are a veteran or active-duty, consider VETERAN PET FINANCIAL HELP available here:  spcai.org\/get-involved\/military-support\/operation-military-pets humanesociety.org\/resources\/are-you-having-trouble-affording-your-pet veteransfamiliesunited.org\/financial-assistance  petsforpatriots.org\/help-with-pet-veterinary-costs  operationwearehere.com\/Pets.html","c_root_id_A":"hfhc1cq","c_root_id_B":"hfifxbq","created_at_utc_A":1633443263,"created_at_utc_B":1633460014,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"This is really useful. You should post this on r\/LifeProTips maybe or some other advice sub!","human_ref_B":"Its helpful, truly helpful but still a mess to go through. I went through some of these as they are provided on this forum. For example...some of these I looked into made me a little sad. Starfleet Canine Aid Foundation. Diagnosis costs are excluded in aid approval. Waggle excludes emergency vet costs. Since you need time for approval, them to verify with the vet and to have your story thrown out there for people to donate to and then whatever you make to be sent to the vet. Another one in CA, I'm looking for the name I'll update when I find the email, declined aid since we made too much income. Care credit has payment plan options but what we'd need to pay monthly was insane to pay it off in 12 months is insane. 1k a month pretty much. Otherwise we'd get hit with an insane interest cost. Not to mention it's a hard inquiry. Scratch pay would only grant a small amount. Not anywhere near enough for what we needed so we decided not to try that as why put ourselves in multiple holes when we can just keep dogging in the one we are standing in already.  My dogs situation if you care to read...I can't treat my dog because we don't know what is causing her internal meltdown. To even possibly get a diagnosis ( they said maybe the tests will let them know it's not guarenteed) we need 11k. We already spent 7k. This is why we needed the help. We can figure out how to ongoing get the money for her treatment after the diagnosis but we need help with the upfront of the 11k. If we dropped the 11k then they still can't figure it out we are screwed. If I knew this would give us the diagnosis I'd do it in a heartbeat but 7k already in the hole and she is still sick. I had to make the ugly decision to blind treat as we, \"declined treatment\". Still bitter about that phrase. I didn't 'decline treatment'. I declined to pay the amount for testing. There is no treatment. Y'all haven't been able to figure it out to even get there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16751.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"w0ih64","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Said goodbye to my sweet girl 4 days ago\u2026I can\u2019t live with this guilt. Will the vet meet with me again to talk about what happened? We lost our sweet baby girl 4 days ago to saddle thrombus. She also had fluid in her lungs and was in shock and severely low body temperature. We were told she would not make it and the best thing we could do for her is say goodbye. It all happened so fast. She was fine and healthy then suddenly her legs started to give out and she had trouble breathing. They said her body temp was below 90 degrees and she was in shock. She had an embolism and a stroke. They said we could take her to an animal hospital to a cardiologist but after calling the hospital they said in 15 years of emergency medicine a cat has not survived this. I didn\u2019t want to put her through the transport. In my mind it would have to happen immediately and she was so sick. I know regret thinking we could have gotten her temp up her oxygen up and then transport. I regret my decision. It is the biggest mistake in my life. I let my girl down, I didn\u2019t protect her and I can\u2019t forgive myself. I am scared it will eat me alive. If I call the vet (this was an emergency vet we did not know her) can I pay to have a counseling meeting. To go over everything again. I keep replaying those final Hours over and over in my head. I can\u2019t leave my house. I can\u2019t eat. I can\u2019t shower. This is destroying me. I miss her so much and I feel like she could still be here. I feel like I did this","c_root_id_A":"igesrvb","c_root_id_B":"igeswe3","created_at_utc_A":1657988825,"created_at_utc_B":1657988878,"score_A":78,"score_B":214,"human_ref_A":"Many vets are willing to take phone calls to discuss these sort of situations. Especially if you can be understanding and patient about when they can call you back to discuss. We know sometimes these situations happen so fast it's hard to process and many vets are willing to talk you through it again and explain the situation now that it's not as fast paced a situation.    I know it's very hard to lose a pet so suddenly, and we desperately want to have them back and our minds take us to the what ifs. But you didn't fail your sweet girl, there was literally nothing you could do. You can't make their bodies last forever and you can't protect them from biology and death, but what you can (and did) do was protect her from a slow, agonizing painful passing and made her transition a little easier. It's absolutely the worst feeling, and the kindest thing we can do for our pets. I would have made the same choice in your shoes, and it would also be incredibly difficult emotionally to handle.","human_ref_B":"Cats generally dont survive a saddle thrombus and it is extremely painful. You didn't fail her, you relieved her suffering. It came on fast because of what's called occult heart disease.  Meaning she had heart disease without any outward clinical signs.  I am sorry for the loss of your companion but you did right by her.  Also please seriously look I to grief counseling.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":53.0,"score_ratio":2.7435897436}
{"post_id":"w0ih64","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Said goodbye to my sweet girl 4 days ago\u2026I can\u2019t live with this guilt. Will the vet meet with me again to talk about what happened? We lost our sweet baby girl 4 days ago to saddle thrombus. She also had fluid in her lungs and was in shock and severely low body temperature. We were told she would not make it and the best thing we could do for her is say goodbye. It all happened so fast. She was fine and healthy then suddenly her legs started to give out and she had trouble breathing. They said her body temp was below 90 degrees and she was in shock. She had an embolism and a stroke. They said we could take her to an animal hospital to a cardiologist but after calling the hospital they said in 15 years of emergency medicine a cat has not survived this. I didn\u2019t want to put her through the transport. In my mind it would have to happen immediately and she was so sick. I know regret thinking we could have gotten her temp up her oxygen up and then transport. I regret my decision. It is the biggest mistake in my life. I let my girl down, I didn\u2019t protect her and I can\u2019t forgive myself. I am scared it will eat me alive. If I call the vet (this was an emergency vet we did not know her) can I pay to have a counseling meeting. To go over everything again. I keep replaying those final Hours over and over in my head. I can\u2019t leave my house. I can\u2019t eat. I can\u2019t shower. This is destroying me. I miss her so much and I feel like she could still be here. I feel like I did this","c_root_id_A":"igepchw","c_root_id_B":"igeswe3","created_at_utc_A":1657987369,"created_at_utc_B":1657988878,"score_A":51,"score_B":214,"human_ref_A":"Hey, OP. Let me just say I am so so sorry for your loss. I am not a vet, so I can\u2019t directly answer your question but I\u2019ve done my share of making \u201cthat choice\u201d over the years with beloved pets. Let me tell you you absolutely positively did the right thing by your girl. You saw she was in distress, you took her for emergency care, and you were prepared to take her to a cardiac specialist on an emergency basis (something that frankly a lot of pet owners can\u2019t or won\u2019t do because of cost) and then most importantly, when the cardiac specialist told you they recommend that yo NOT bring her because all it would do is cause pain and stress for your animal with no chance at recovery you chose to LISTEN to the advice and to end your girl\u2019s suffering.   You couldn\u2019t have saved your girl. She was dying and dying in a manner that the specialist told you they wouldn\u2019t be able to stop. It is our duty as people who love our pets to make the choice to spare their suffering when we can\u2019t spare their lives. If I could make a wish for the animals of the world I would wish they all could have lives with an owner like you who loves their animals so much that they can let them go when it is time.  I am not sure if the vet will talk with you - but whether they do or not I would heartily recommend you also talk to a therapist. Don\u2019t feel like you can\u2019t talk about your grief to a therapist because it\u2019s about an animal, it\u2019s about a part of your family and they hear stuff like that all the time (I\u2019ve spoken to therapists about pet loss personally.)  I know the words of a stranger on the internet probably won\u2019t be a magic pill for you to find peace but I wish it for you none the less. You did nothing wrong, you protected your cat.","human_ref_B":"Cats generally dont survive a saddle thrombus and it is extremely painful. You didn't fail her, you relieved her suffering. It came on fast because of what's called occult heart disease.  Meaning she had heart disease without any outward clinical signs.  I am sorry for the loss of your companion but you did right by her.  Also please seriously look I to grief counseling.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1509.0,"score_ratio":4.1960784314}
{"post_id":"w0ih64","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Said goodbye to my sweet girl 4 days ago\u2026I can\u2019t live with this guilt. Will the vet meet with me again to talk about what happened? We lost our sweet baby girl 4 days ago to saddle thrombus. She also had fluid in her lungs and was in shock and severely low body temperature. We were told she would not make it and the best thing we could do for her is say goodbye. It all happened so fast. She was fine and healthy then suddenly her legs started to give out and she had trouble breathing. They said her body temp was below 90 degrees and she was in shock. She had an embolism and a stroke. They said we could take her to an animal hospital to a cardiologist but after calling the hospital they said in 15 years of emergency medicine a cat has not survived this. I didn\u2019t want to put her through the transport. In my mind it would have to happen immediately and she was so sick. I know regret thinking we could have gotten her temp up her oxygen up and then transport. I regret my decision. It is the biggest mistake in my life. I let my girl down, I didn\u2019t protect her and I can\u2019t forgive myself. I am scared it will eat me alive. If I call the vet (this was an emergency vet we did not know her) can I pay to have a counseling meeting. To go over everything again. I keep replaying those final Hours over and over in my head. I can\u2019t leave my house. I can\u2019t eat. I can\u2019t shower. This is destroying me. I miss her so much and I feel like she could still be here. I feel like I did this","c_root_id_A":"igesrvb","c_root_id_B":"igepchw","created_at_utc_A":1657988825,"created_at_utc_B":1657987369,"score_A":78,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Many vets are willing to take phone calls to discuss these sort of situations. Especially if you can be understanding and patient about when they can call you back to discuss. We know sometimes these situations happen so fast it's hard to process and many vets are willing to talk you through it again and explain the situation now that it's not as fast paced a situation.    I know it's very hard to lose a pet so suddenly, and we desperately want to have them back and our minds take us to the what ifs. But you didn't fail your sweet girl, there was literally nothing you could do. You can't make their bodies last forever and you can't protect them from biology and death, but what you can (and did) do was protect her from a slow, agonizing painful passing and made her transition a little easier. It's absolutely the worst feeling, and the kindest thing we can do for our pets. I would have made the same choice in your shoes, and it would also be incredibly difficult emotionally to handle.","human_ref_B":"Hey, OP. Let me just say I am so so sorry for your loss. I am not a vet, so I can\u2019t directly answer your question but I\u2019ve done my share of making \u201cthat choice\u201d over the years with beloved pets. Let me tell you you absolutely positively did the right thing by your girl. You saw she was in distress, you took her for emergency care, and you were prepared to take her to a cardiac specialist on an emergency basis (something that frankly a lot of pet owners can\u2019t or won\u2019t do because of cost) and then most importantly, when the cardiac specialist told you they recommend that yo NOT bring her because all it would do is cause pain and stress for your animal with no chance at recovery you chose to LISTEN to the advice and to end your girl\u2019s suffering.   You couldn\u2019t have saved your girl. She was dying and dying in a manner that the specialist told you they wouldn\u2019t be able to stop. It is our duty as people who love our pets to make the choice to spare their suffering when we can\u2019t spare their lives. If I could make a wish for the animals of the world I would wish they all could have lives with an owner like you who loves their animals so much that they can let them go when it is time.  I am not sure if the vet will talk with you - but whether they do or not I would heartily recommend you also talk to a therapist. Don\u2019t feel like you can\u2019t talk about your grief to a therapist because it\u2019s about an animal, it\u2019s about a part of your family and they hear stuff like that all the time (I\u2019ve spoken to therapists about pet loss personally.)  I know the words of a stranger on the internet probably won\u2019t be a magic pill for you to find peace but I wish it for you none the less. You did nothing wrong, you protected your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1456.0,"score_ratio":1.5294117647}
{"post_id":"w0ih64","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Said goodbye to my sweet girl 4 days ago\u2026I can\u2019t live with this guilt. Will the vet meet with me again to talk about what happened? We lost our sweet baby girl 4 days ago to saddle thrombus. She also had fluid in her lungs and was in shock and severely low body temperature. We were told she would not make it and the best thing we could do for her is say goodbye. It all happened so fast. She was fine and healthy then suddenly her legs started to give out and she had trouble breathing. They said her body temp was below 90 degrees and she was in shock. She had an embolism and a stroke. They said we could take her to an animal hospital to a cardiologist but after calling the hospital they said in 15 years of emergency medicine a cat has not survived this. I didn\u2019t want to put her through the transport. In my mind it would have to happen immediately and she was so sick. I know regret thinking we could have gotten her temp up her oxygen up and then transport. I regret my decision. It is the biggest mistake in my life. I let my girl down, I didn\u2019t protect her and I can\u2019t forgive myself. I am scared it will eat me alive. If I call the vet (this was an emergency vet we did not know her) can I pay to have a counseling meeting. To go over everything again. I keep replaying those final Hours over and over in my head. I can\u2019t leave my house. I can\u2019t eat. I can\u2019t shower. This is destroying me. I miss her so much and I feel like she could still be here. I feel like I did this","c_root_id_A":"igggr28","c_root_id_B":"iggomup","created_at_utc_A":1658015328,"created_at_utc_B":1658019281,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to make this difficult decision. You did not fail your sweet girl. It\u2019s clear you loved her and wanted the very best for her. When these things happen so quickly, you can only take the information that you\u2019re given and do what you feel is best. And it sounds like you did just that. It\u2019s a lot to process, but you spared her from further pain and suffering. I hope you\u2019ll be able to find peace in the coming days. I\u2019ll be thinking about you. Hugs \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"Just wanted to reach out and say you did the very best thing you could do for her. You reacted as soon as you could and you did absolutely everything you could with the information you had at the time. Be gentle with yourself. You gave her an amazing life and a peaceful death. You have nothing to feel guilty for \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3953.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"w0ih64","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Said goodbye to my sweet girl 4 days ago\u2026I can\u2019t live with this guilt. Will the vet meet with me again to talk about what happened? We lost our sweet baby girl 4 days ago to saddle thrombus. She also had fluid in her lungs and was in shock and severely low body temperature. We were told she would not make it and the best thing we could do for her is say goodbye. It all happened so fast. She was fine and healthy then suddenly her legs started to give out and she had trouble breathing. They said her body temp was below 90 degrees and she was in shock. She had an embolism and a stroke. They said we could take her to an animal hospital to a cardiologist but after calling the hospital they said in 15 years of emergency medicine a cat has not survived this. I didn\u2019t want to put her through the transport. In my mind it would have to happen immediately and she was so sick. I know regret thinking we could have gotten her temp up her oxygen up and then transport. I regret my decision. It is the biggest mistake in my life. I let my girl down, I didn\u2019t protect her and I can\u2019t forgive myself. I am scared it will eat me alive. If I call the vet (this was an emergency vet we did not know her) can I pay to have a counseling meeting. To go over everything again. I keep replaying those final Hours over and over in my head. I can\u2019t leave my house. I can\u2019t eat. I can\u2019t shower. This is destroying me. I miss her so much and I feel like she could still be here. I feel like I did this","c_root_id_A":"igggr28","c_root_id_B":"iggww5v","created_at_utc_A":1658015328,"created_at_utc_B":1658023492,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to make this difficult decision. You did not fail your sweet girl. It\u2019s clear you loved her and wanted the very best for her. When these things happen so quickly, you can only take the information that you\u2019re given and do what you feel is best. And it sounds like you did just that. It\u2019s a lot to process, but you spared her from further pain and suffering. I hope you\u2019ll be able to find peace in the coming days. I\u2019ll be thinking about you. Hugs \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"putting a pet to sleep can be one of the most painful things you can do, but it is also the greatest kindness you can give them. you have chosen to suffer yourself in order to give them peace. it is the greatest act of love.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8164.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsx0jv7","c_root_id_B":"hswhwu8","created_at_utc_A":1642351033,"created_at_utc_B":1642342904,"score_A":64,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"I had my 21-year-old cat euthanized by a \u201cmobile vet\u201d so kitty could go in her sleep at home. Booked online, vet showed up, petted kitty gently as she did the thing. Never saw her before or since. She sent a handwritten card.   Our \u201cpersonal\u201d vet always sends a card. I had a dog euthanized for behavior. It was the hardest thing ever. So awful. No one else recognized my grief, except the vet who had witnessed my struggle with the dog from day one. She wrote such an affirming message that I still have the card today. Years later. When I am overcome with guilt and the \u201cif only  \u2026 if only \u2026\u201d I sometimes get it out and read it again.  Other people are like \u201cyou killed your dog?!?!\u201d And she said I had given her the best life she could cope with. Aaaaaand now I\u2019m crying again.","human_ref_B":"It's always been the norm to send sympathy cards, though sometimes vets or staff who know the patient well will write a bit more if the patient affected them or connected with them in some way.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8129.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsx0jv7","c_root_id_B":"hswlrch","created_at_utc_A":1642351033,"created_at_utc_B":1642344779,"score_A":64,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"I had my 21-year-old cat euthanized by a \u201cmobile vet\u201d so kitty could go in her sleep at home. Booked online, vet showed up, petted kitty gently as she did the thing. Never saw her before or since. She sent a handwritten card.   Our \u201cpersonal\u201d vet always sends a card. I had a dog euthanized for behavior. It was the hardest thing ever. So awful. No one else recognized my grief, except the vet who had witnessed my struggle with the dog from day one. She wrote such an affirming message that I still have the card today. Years later. When I am overcome with guilt and the \u201cif only  \u2026 if only \u2026\u201d I sometimes get it out and read it again.  Other people are like \u201cyou killed your dog?!?!\u201d And she said I had given her the best life she could cope with. Aaaaaand now I\u2019m crying again.","human_ref_B":"We\u2019ve always gotten one. We had two older dogs (16 and 15) have to be put to sleep due to age and health issues\/quality of life, and the vet sent us sympathy cards. The office sent us a \u201cwe\u2019re sorry to see you leave\u201d card when we moved from that town too - we had seen them from 97 to 06, and he treated all of our dogs (5 total). Total sweetheart of a vet too.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6254.0,"score_ratio":2.3703703704}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsx0jv7","c_root_id_B":"hswvvy2","created_at_utc_A":1642351033,"created_at_utc_B":1642349145,"score_A":64,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I had my 21-year-old cat euthanized by a \u201cmobile vet\u201d so kitty could go in her sleep at home. Booked online, vet showed up, petted kitty gently as she did the thing. Never saw her before or since. She sent a handwritten card.   Our \u201cpersonal\u201d vet always sends a card. I had a dog euthanized for behavior. It was the hardest thing ever. So awful. No one else recognized my grief, except the vet who had witnessed my struggle with the dog from day one. She wrote such an affirming message that I still have the card today. Years later. When I am overcome with guilt and the \u201cif only  \u2026 if only \u2026\u201d I sometimes get it out and read it again.  Other people are like \u201cyou killed your dog?!?!\u201d And she said I had given her the best life she could cope with. Aaaaaand now I\u2019m crying again.","human_ref_B":"We got a card signed by everyone in the office, a plaster pawprint, and a package of flower seeds. We were devastated and these little things meant a lot.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1888.0,"score_ratio":2.9090909091}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswoxoy","c_root_id_B":"hsx0jv7","created_at_utc_A":1642346216,"created_at_utc_B":1642351033,"score_A":15,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"It's normal. I got cards and pawprints from the vets office of my cat and dog when the had to be put to sleep years ago.","human_ref_B":"I had my 21-year-old cat euthanized by a \u201cmobile vet\u201d so kitty could go in her sleep at home. Booked online, vet showed up, petted kitty gently as she did the thing. Never saw her before or since. She sent a handwritten card.   Our \u201cpersonal\u201d vet always sends a card. I had a dog euthanized for behavior. It was the hardest thing ever. So awful. No one else recognized my grief, except the vet who had witnessed my struggle with the dog from day one. She wrote such an affirming message that I still have the card today. Years later. When I am overcome with guilt and the \u201cif only  \u2026 if only \u2026\u201d I sometimes get it out and read it again.  Other people are like \u201cyou killed your dog?!?!\u201d And she said I had given her the best life she could cope with. Aaaaaand now I\u2019m crying again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4817.0,"score_ratio":4.2666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswsldb","c_root_id_B":"hsx0jv7","created_at_utc_A":1642347784,"created_at_utc_B":1642351033,"score_A":4,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","human_ref_B":"I had my 21-year-old cat euthanized by a \u201cmobile vet\u201d so kitty could go in her sleep at home. Booked online, vet showed up, petted kitty gently as she did the thing. Never saw her before or since. She sent a handwritten card.   Our \u201cpersonal\u201d vet always sends a card. I had a dog euthanized for behavior. It was the hardest thing ever. So awful. No one else recognized my grief, except the vet who had witnessed my struggle with the dog from day one. She wrote such an affirming message that I still have the card today. Years later. When I am overcome with guilt and the \u201cif only  \u2026 if only \u2026\u201d I sometimes get it out and read it again.  Other people are like \u201cyou killed your dog?!?!\u201d And she said I had given her the best life she could cope with. Aaaaaand now I\u2019m crying again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3249.0,"score_ratio":16.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxagi4","c_root_id_B":"hswvvy2","created_at_utc_A":1642354891,"created_at_utc_B":1642349145,"score_A":27,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"We do. No we don\u2019t expect a reply.","human_ref_B":"We got a card signed by everyone in the office, a plaster pawprint, and a package of flower seeds. We were devastated and these little things meant a lot.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5746.0,"score_ratio":1.2272727273}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswoxoy","c_root_id_B":"hsxagi4","created_at_utc_A":1642346216,"created_at_utc_B":1642354891,"score_A":15,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"It's normal. I got cards and pawprints from the vets office of my cat and dog when the had to be put to sleep years ago.","human_ref_B":"We do. No we don\u2019t expect a reply.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8675.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxagi4","c_root_id_B":"hsx1yc3","created_at_utc_A":1642354891,"created_at_utc_B":1642351590,"score_A":27,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"We do. No we don\u2019t expect a reply.","human_ref_B":"When I took my elderly cat in to the vet last year it was to a vet he\u2019d never been to before. The vet and staff there were so kind and caring. They gave me all the time I needed to say goodbye and sent me a beautiful card a week later. It was such a nice gesture. I think I still have the card somewhere though I don\u2019t think I could bear to read it again.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3301.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxagi4","c_root_id_B":"hswsldb","created_at_utc_A":1642354891,"created_at_utc_B":1642347784,"score_A":27,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"We do. No we don\u2019t expect a reply.","human_ref_B":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7107.0,"score_ratio":6.75}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswoxoy","c_root_id_B":"hswvvy2","created_at_utc_A":1642346216,"created_at_utc_B":1642349145,"score_A":15,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"It's normal. I got cards and pawprints from the vets office of my cat and dog when the had to be put to sleep years ago.","human_ref_B":"We got a card signed by everyone in the office, a plaster pawprint, and a package of flower seeds. We were devastated and these little things meant a lot.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2929.0,"score_ratio":1.4666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswsldb","c_root_id_B":"hswvvy2","created_at_utc_A":1642347784,"created_at_utc_B":1642349145,"score_A":4,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","human_ref_B":"We got a card signed by everyone in the office, a plaster pawprint, and a package of flower seeds. We were devastated and these little things meant a lot.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1361.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswoxoy","c_root_id_B":"hsyglt8","created_at_utc_A":1642346216,"created_at_utc_B":1642370868,"score_A":15,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"It's normal. I got cards and pawprints from the vets office of my cat and dog when the had to be put to sleep years ago.","human_ref_B":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24652.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsx1yc3","c_root_id_B":"hsyglt8","created_at_utc_A":1642351590,"created_at_utc_B":1642370868,"score_A":9,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"When I took my elderly cat in to the vet last year it was to a vet he\u2019d never been to before. The vet and staff there were so kind and caring. They gave me all the time I needed to say goodbye and sent me a beautiful card a week later. It was such a nice gesture. I think I still have the card somewhere though I don\u2019t think I could bear to read it again.","human_ref_B":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19278.0,"score_ratio":2.2222222222}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hsxseyj","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642361627,"score_A":20,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"The vet loved your pet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9241.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":20,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2012.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":20,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7048.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hswsldb","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642347784,"score_A":20,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23084.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hsxw84m","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642363058,"score_A":20,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"When my pug passed away. My vet office sent me a sympathy card. With a copy of her paw print and a hair clipping. It was nice. Because I dint think of getting any of those myself. And they even called to see how my other dog was doing. Because they noticed how attentive he was to her at the end. Even offers doggie antidepressant if necessary.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7810.0,"score_ratio":6.6666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyglt8","c_root_id_B":"hsxx2cm","created_at_utc_A":1642370868,"created_at_utc_B":1642363372,"score_A":20,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","human_ref_B":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7496.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsy5g3j","c_root_id_B":"hsyglt8","created_at_utc_A":1642366511,"created_at_utc_B":1642370868,"score_A":2,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I have definitely received a card from the vet's office after my pet gets put down.   My current vet sent a condolence card with my cat's footprint when we had him cremated ( he died at home, but my daughter wanted his ashes.) When I went to pick up my old kitty's ashes they were in a lovely memory box. We got the card a few days later. It really meant a lot to us.","human_ref_B":"It's normal, I do them at my clinic and it is never done in a \"check this off a list\" way. It's genuine sympathy and heart felt condolences because we love Animals so much and know better than most how it feels to lose them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4357.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsx1yc3","c_root_id_B":"hswsldb","created_at_utc_A":1642351590,"created_at_utc_B":1642347784,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"When I took my elderly cat in to the vet last year it was to a vet he\u2019d never been to before. The vet and staff there were so kind and caring. They gave me all the time I needed to say goodbye and sent me a beautiful card a week later. It was such a nice gesture. I think I still have the card somewhere though I don\u2019t think I could bear to read it again.","human_ref_B":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3806.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyl8xg","c_root_id_B":"hsykkzc","created_at_utc_A":1642372692,"created_at_utc_B":1642372429,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","human_ref_B":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":263.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxseyj","c_root_id_B":"hsyl8xg","created_at_utc_A":1642361627,"created_at_utc_B":1642372692,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"The vet loved your pet.","human_ref_B":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11065.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyl8xg","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642372692,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3836.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyl8xg","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642372692,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8872.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyl8xg","c_root_id_B":"hswsldb","created_at_utc_A":1642372692,"created_at_utc_B":1642347784,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","human_ref_B":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24908.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxw84m","c_root_id_B":"hsyl8xg","created_at_utc_A":1642363058,"created_at_utc_B":1642372692,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"When my pug passed away. My vet office sent me a sympathy card. With a copy of her paw print and a hair clipping. It was nice. Because I dint think of getting any of those myself. And they even called to see how my other dog was doing. Because they noticed how attentive he was to her at the end. Even offers doggie antidepressant if necessary.","human_ref_B":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9634.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyl8xg","c_root_id_B":"hsxx2cm","created_at_utc_A":1642372692,"created_at_utc_B":1642363372,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","human_ref_B":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9320.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsy5g3j","c_root_id_B":"hsyl8xg","created_at_utc_A":1642366511,"created_at_utc_B":1642372692,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I have definitely received a card from the vet's office after my pet gets put down.   My current vet sent a condolence card with my cat's footprint when we had him cremated ( he died at home, but my daughter wanted his ashes.) When I went to pick up my old kitty's ashes they were in a lovely memory box. We got the card a few days later. It really meant a lot to us.","human_ref_B":"Mine also made a donation in his honor and sent us a paw print. It meant a lot to me.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6181.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxseyj","c_root_id_B":"hsykkzc","created_at_utc_A":1642361627,"created_at_utc_B":1642372429,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"The vet loved your pet.","human_ref_B":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10802.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsykkzc","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642372429,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3573.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsykkzc","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642372429,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8609.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsykkzc","c_root_id_B":"hswsldb","created_at_utc_A":1642372429,"created_at_utc_B":1642347784,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","human_ref_B":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24645.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxw84m","c_root_id_B":"hsykkzc","created_at_utc_A":1642363058,"created_at_utc_B":1642372429,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"When my pug passed away. My vet office sent me a sympathy card. With a copy of her paw print and a hair clipping. It was nice. Because I dint think of getting any of those myself. And they even called to see how my other dog was doing. Because they noticed how attentive he was to her at the end. Even offers doggie antidepressant if necessary.","human_ref_B":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9371.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsykkzc","c_root_id_B":"hsxx2cm","created_at_utc_A":1642372429,"created_at_utc_B":1642363372,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","human_ref_B":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9057.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsy5g3j","c_root_id_B":"hsykkzc","created_at_utc_A":1642366511,"created_at_utc_B":1642372429,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I have definitely received a card from the vet's office after my pet gets put down.   My current vet sent a condolence card with my cat's footprint when we had him cremated ( he died at home, but my daughter wanted his ashes.) When I went to pick up my old kitty's ashes they were in a lovely memory box. We got the card a few days later. It really meant a lot to us.","human_ref_B":"When my dog passed away at home the vet just so happened to call the next day to check on him (he was a Pyrenees mix, 11 year old) I let them know. A few weeks later I got a card and a small book of some pictures of him (from all the way back when he was a puppy to his last visit) in the back with their staff I had no idea they had and handwritten notes about what each person thought of him. It was so so sweet. I still have it. When I took my cat in a few months later I mentioned it and she pulled up the computer file for my cat and showed me the pictures they had of him, which wasn't as many as my dog but then again my cat is not a happy cat. They explained they do it for every patient and try to capture the best, funniest, nicest pics they can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5918.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswsldb","c_root_id_B":"hsxseyj","created_at_utc_A":1642347784,"created_at_utc_B":1642361627,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","human_ref_B":"The vet loved your pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13843.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxyabl","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642363820,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5036.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswsldb","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642347784,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21072.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxw84m","c_root_id_B":"hsybfei","created_at_utc_A":1642363058,"created_at_utc_B":1642368856,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"When my pug passed away. My vet office sent me a sympathy card. With a copy of her paw print and a hair clipping. It was nice. Because I dint think of getting any of those myself. And they even called to see how my other dog was doing. Because they noticed how attentive he was to her at the end. Even offers doggie antidepressant if necessary.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5798.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsybfei","c_root_id_B":"hsxx2cm","created_at_utc_A":1642368856,"created_at_utc_B":1642363372,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","human_ref_B":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5484.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsybfei","c_root_id_B":"hsy5g3j","created_at_utc_A":1642368856,"created_at_utc_B":1642366511,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve also received a card because of my parrot and I broke down like a baby. With so many that would say it\u2019s just an animal  It means the world to know someone cares and acknowledges your pet and it\u2019s value as a family member and the sadness you feel.","human_ref_B":"I have definitely received a card from the vet's office after my pet gets put down.   My current vet sent a condolence card with my cat's footprint when we had him cremated ( he died at home, but my daughter wanted his ashes.) When I went to pick up my old kitty's ashes they were in a lovely memory box. We got the card a few days later. It really meant a lot to us.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2345.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hswsldb","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642347784,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Pretty normal, I am in rescue and see a larger then average number of euthanasia's. I don't always get one per eu'd animal as I have had to sometimes put down multiple puppies in a short time period, so will get one for the entire litter. Occasionally, my vet(s) have apologized for forgetting to send one, but we are all busy and I understand. Last year would have required 36 sympathy cards if done individually and none were forgotten or combined, so yeah, I am fine with them being combined. Especially since it is frequently signed by multiple vets and vet techs.","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16036.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxw84m","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642363058,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"When my pug passed away. My vet office sent me a sympathy card. With a copy of her paw print and a hair clipping. It was nice. Because I dint think of getting any of those myself. And they even called to see how my other dog was doing. Because they noticed how attentive he was to her at the end. Even offers doggie antidepressant if necessary.","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":762.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsxx2cm","c_root_id_B":"hsxyabl","created_at_utc_A":1642363372,"created_at_utc_B":1642363820,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","human_ref_B":"I actually had flowers delivered to me the day after I it my dog down from the specialist that had been treating my dog. It was sooo sweet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":448.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyoq9n","c_root_id_B":"hsxx2cm","created_at_utc_A":1642374095,"created_at_utc_B":1642363372,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes, it's a thing.  It's not a PR exercise, it's showing empathy. I think vets and vet nurses would understand more than most how much a pet can mean to someone and how devastating it is to lose a member of the family.","human_ref_B":"I received one after my boy passed away. And it did help me cry more but also moved my emotions to the better on scale","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10723.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"s5c2z9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is it a thing for vets to send a sympathy card after a person euthanasia? Our cat was euthanized a few months back and we just received a very sweet, personal, and somewhat long sympathy card from our vet. I imagine this is more of a customer relation thing and there is nothing wrong with that, again, it's nice, it just seemed a tad over the top. I feel sorry for the lady if she has to sit there and handwrite dozens of sympathy cards to all her patients' families.   Also, is there some sort of etiquette that says I should reply somehow?   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hsyoq9n","c_root_id_B":"hsy5g3j","created_at_utc_A":1642374095,"created_at_utc_B":1642366511,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes, it's a thing.  It's not a PR exercise, it's showing empathy. I think vets and vet nurses would understand more than most how much a pet can mean to someone and how devastating it is to lose a member of the family.","human_ref_B":"I have definitely received a card from the vet's office after my pet gets put down.   My current vet sent a condolence card with my cat's footprint when we had him cremated ( he died at home, but my daughter wanted his ashes.) When I went to pick up my old kitty's ashes they were in a lovely memory box. We got the card a few days later. It really meant a lot to us.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7584.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"lj26w6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Free dog turned into a rescue mission. Help please! Hello all. I was scrolling on Facebook on a page where people give up their pets. I stumbled across this dog and I knew he needed to be part of my pack. I don\u2019t know what it was but something in me told me to drive the hour drive and pick him up TODAY.   I picked him up and as soon as I got him into my car I was brought to tears because of his weight.   I called the ver on the vet records that the lady gave with the recent date of 01\/13\/2021.   I am waiting on the old owner to give permission to give me the test results on all of these tests but I briefly spoke to his vet and she said when he came in they were worried about possible lymphoma that they couldn\u2019t detect in his blood work, or IBS.   Species- dog  Sex- Intact male  Breed- Pit Bull  Weight- maybe 20lb? Very very emaciated  Location- central Oklahoma   History- he is up to date on all of his shots. She didn\u2019t have too much to say about his history but I know that he was born 8\/15\/19. At 6 months old his paperwork shows he was 15.50lb.   Clinical signs- he is very VERY thirsty. First thing he did when I got him into my house was go to the toilet and drink.  He has used the bathroom in the house multiple times. Peeing 4 or 5. Pooing once.  When I let him out, he acts like maybe he\u2019s constipated but seems to push it out.  His stool isn\u2019t rock hard all of the time but it is not in liquid form by any means.  He seems to have a severe case of hyperkeratosis on his nose and paws. (Causing him to walk as if he is very sore:((( )  He is eating perfectly fine. He can\u2019t seem to get enough food, honestly.   My vet is closed today and tomorrow due to severe winter weather we are expecting here.  Is there any advice or insight that you could give?   Bhoot when I first got him in my car   Bhoots nose","c_root_id_A":"gnbexyk","c_root_id_B":"gncbbr5","created_at_utc_A":1613259045,"created_at_utc_B":1613271562,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Be careful with feeding him and make sure you are not letting him eat however much he wants.","human_ref_B":"Locking due to the large influx of non-advice comments. Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12517.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"j6mkp5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog suddenly attacked me (bite to the face) Species: Dog Breed: Mix Unknown (possibly an Indian parish dog) Age:3 yrs  Sex: male Body weight: 60lbs  History: according to shelter he has taken anxiety medication Location: Northern VA   (Backstory of my dog) I adopted my dog about a year and a half ago, he\u2019s never showed any signs of aggressive behavior towards people, but very dog aggressive. He\u2019s very sweet and gentle and loves to cuddle and play. He\u2019s also very smart and obedient and know he\u2019s boundaries. I\u2019ve never had an issue with him (although the shelter did mentioned he did take anti anxiety pills and had severe separation anxiety) which I\u2019ve never had an issue with him, he never peed, cause destruction, or showed any signs of separation anxiety as far as I could tell.  (Incident) I was resting in my bed my dog usually with me, had the lights turned off and watching comedy videos in my smartphone. What happened was I laughed at this one joke, and my dog suddenly snapped and bit in the face causing two very deep wounds. Obviously went to the hospital right away to make sure it wasn\u2019t infected. (Literally have an appointment for my dog\u2019s yearly vaccination in two weeks) the doctor wanted to report my dog, and I pleaded to not report him. After got my wounds checked out and treated. Had to get stitches in one of my wounds located on the area between my lips and nose. I was wondering if it\u2019s safe to let my vet know of the issue to maybe check to see if he\u2019s sick and\/or wounded. I just don\u2019t want to get my dog reported. Never had something like this happen to me before, and I\u2019m so sure know what to do in this situation. I love my dog and I don\u2019t want to give up on him. I want to know what I can do to make sure this doesn\u2019t happen again.  Thank you in advanced!","c_root_id_A":"g801a3j","c_root_id_B":"g7ztwnq","created_at_utc_A":1602077608,"created_at_utc_B":1602072998,"score_A":44,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Regardless of whether the vet reports this to Fairfax county,   The human doctor will,  FYI.  The human doctor is obligated to.     Animal control will likely contact you.   that is not the end of the world,  and does not mean you are obligated to put your dog down or officially label them a dangerous dog   Highly recommend dr pike.   This is very serious and needs to be addressed ASAP,   Or it will get worse.","human_ref_B":"Regardless of the cause, this is a serious bite. Please contact a veterinary behaviorist (DACVB.org)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4610.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"j6mkp5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog suddenly attacked me (bite to the face) Species: Dog Breed: Mix Unknown (possibly an Indian parish dog) Age:3 yrs  Sex: male Body weight: 60lbs  History: according to shelter he has taken anxiety medication Location: Northern VA   (Backstory of my dog) I adopted my dog about a year and a half ago, he\u2019s never showed any signs of aggressive behavior towards people, but very dog aggressive. He\u2019s very sweet and gentle and loves to cuddle and play. He\u2019s also very smart and obedient and know he\u2019s boundaries. I\u2019ve never had an issue with him (although the shelter did mentioned he did take anti anxiety pills and had severe separation anxiety) which I\u2019ve never had an issue with him, he never peed, cause destruction, or showed any signs of separation anxiety as far as I could tell.  (Incident) I was resting in my bed my dog usually with me, had the lights turned off and watching comedy videos in my smartphone. What happened was I laughed at this one joke, and my dog suddenly snapped and bit in the face causing two very deep wounds. Obviously went to the hospital right away to make sure it wasn\u2019t infected. (Literally have an appointment for my dog\u2019s yearly vaccination in two weeks) the doctor wanted to report my dog, and I pleaded to not report him. After got my wounds checked out and treated. Had to get stitches in one of my wounds located on the area between my lips and nose. I was wondering if it\u2019s safe to let my vet know of the issue to maybe check to see if he\u2019s sick and\/or wounded. I just don\u2019t want to get my dog reported. Never had something like this happen to me before, and I\u2019m so sure know what to do in this situation. I love my dog and I don\u2019t want to give up on him. I want to know what I can do to make sure this doesn\u2019t happen again.  Thank you in advanced!","c_root_id_A":"g80dv03","c_root_id_B":"g806gts","created_at_utc_A":1602084300,"created_at_utc_B":1602080474,"score_A":10,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Important to tell your vet at the start of the appointment- if your vet startles the dog and gets bit, your situation will be much worse than if the vet knows and proceeds with caution and appropriate tools. A dog with one big event is in a better place than a dog with several.","human_ref_B":"Reporting doesn\u2019t mean your dog will get put down. It\u2019s mostly for the county to make sure it has his shots.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3826.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"hkcntc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog Lulu passed away **Species:** Herding  **Age:** 1 year and 2 months  **Sex:** Female  **Breed:** Toy Aussie  **Body Weight:** 13 pounds  **History:** Lulu had a grade 1 murmur when she was a puppy and was also treated for Giardia at the same time. On June 30th, we brought her to get spayed and was told that she did great. Here is her surgery report. These are her vitals I believe.  We brought her home after the surgery and she was able to eat and drink but as expected she was tired throughout the day. The next morning around 10:30AM we were instructed to give her 0.43mL of Meloxicam. During this time she was eating and drinking. She was also playful. Around 3:00PM she attempted to use the bathroom on the pad but there was nothing. She came out of the bathroom and laid on the floor but I noticed something that I didn\u2019t pick up at the time but now I remember her coughing 2-3 times but it wasn\u2019t abnormal. She went to her bed and acted weird. She almost looked uncomfortable and laid side ways. She quickly got up and yelped as her body tensed up and she fell over.   I quickly knew something was wrong and checked for a pulse but nothing. I started performing CPR as I called my fianc\u00e9e and brought her to the emergency vet. From the moment she yelped to her heart stopping was literally 5-10 second but it felt like forever... The vet told us that they did everything they can but she wasn\u2019t coming back. We were told that he did not see any obvious signs of what might have caused it. He did not see any signs of internal bleeding either.   We were going to cremate her but decided that we wanted a necropsy. I don\u2019t think I would be able to go through the grieving process if we didn\u2019t find out. Results will come back in around 5-6 weeks but I just want some input from the vets on this subreddit. Thank you.  **Location:** Massachusetts","c_root_id_A":"fws6pi6","c_root_id_B":"fws9yy7","created_at_utc_A":1593759385,"created_at_utc_B":1593762368,"score_A":22,"score_B":67,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope you find answers and closure soon!","human_ref_B":"I am sorry for your loss. I hope you get the answers you need from the necropsy. Until then any ideas will just be guesses and are not likely to be helpful.  Once you have the necropsy report, feel free to update us with any questions you may have","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2983.0,"score_ratio":3.0454545455}
{"post_id":"o6wdir","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why does my cat spend time with me when I'm sick? Or \"comforting\" me when I'm crying? I have two cats, and I'll be talking about my older one (who is btw mom to my other cat). She's an extremely smart cat, I honestly never seen a cat this smart.  But she's also very independent. She's 7 year old and prefers to spend time on her own.  I'm not sure if this was the case ever since I got her, but every time someone in my family gets sick (me, my mom or my sister) she spends most of the time with us. She doesn't hang out in my room that much, she may come to check it out, check on me, hit my other cat on the head and leaves. But when I'm sick, she lays on the foot of my bed and just sleeps there for better part of the day. She doesn't sleep close to my face, or on me, but just by my feet. She does the same with my sister and my mom.   She also always always comes to me when I cry, like she's trying to comfort me. She doesn't like me hugging her at all, but in these situation she tolerates it a little bit.  Does she actually understand what's going on? Does she feels the need to be there for me? I'm very curious.","c_root_id_A":"h2w8qkr","c_root_id_B":"h2wgfva","created_at_utc_A":1624548954,"created_at_utc_B":1624552352,"score_A":36,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Oh yes. Every cat I\u2019ve had comforts me when sad. My current cat bonded very strongly to me and he will come strolling in every time I\u2019m crying or not feeling well. Animals can totally sense that.... our science is just way too far behind for any sort of proof. My dog will do the same.. if I have so much as a headache, my dog will come put his head on me and give me this look like \u201care you ok?\u201d. Especially for anxiety.. my dog will find me if he senses I have anxiety.. and he\u2019ll try to play with me.   There\u2019s no question.. domesticated animals can absolutely sense our emotions. In fact they can sense a lot more then just our emotions..","human_ref_B":"There\u2019s no question about it. They definitely bond with us and care for us. I remember sitting on the back porch in Texas, crying because my Mom wouldn\u2019t let me go get a baby rabbit in the brush next to our house because of rattlesnakes. My Siamese went and caught one of them and put it in my lap like \u201chere, stop crying\u201d. I only kept it for a few weeks until it could safely be released.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3398.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"o6wdir","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why does my cat spend time with me when I'm sick? Or \"comforting\" me when I'm crying? I have two cats, and I'll be talking about my older one (who is btw mom to my other cat). She's an extremely smart cat, I honestly never seen a cat this smart.  But she's also very independent. She's 7 year old and prefers to spend time on her own.  I'm not sure if this was the case ever since I got her, but every time someone in my family gets sick (me, my mom or my sister) she spends most of the time with us. She doesn't hang out in my room that much, she may come to check it out, check on me, hit my other cat on the head and leaves. But when I'm sick, she lays on the foot of my bed and just sleeps there for better part of the day. She doesn't sleep close to my face, or on me, but just by my feet. She does the same with my sister and my mom.   She also always always comes to me when I cry, like she's trying to comfort me. She doesn't like me hugging her at all, but in these situation she tolerates it a little bit.  Does she actually understand what's going on? Does she feels the need to be there for me? I'm very curious.","c_root_id_A":"h2xu0ms","c_root_id_B":"h2y2bn8","created_at_utc_A":1624579809,"created_at_utc_B":1624584356,"score_A":9,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"The reality is, despite the best efforts of the government to hide the truth, cats are made of loves.  Science can't provide a neatly packaged answer for it. They're simply full of sweetness and fluffs.","human_ref_B":"Cats communicate with each other non verbally.  To name a few, things like body stance, pupil dilation, speed of eye movement, and tail position are all ways cats communicate how they are feeling.  Cats are also suuuper aware at reading those cues on other cats, and humans.  Maybe your cat is sensing you're breathing differently, moving slower, using the bathroom more frequently, or your body temperature is elevated.  All those things are being communicated and your cat is responding.  They love and care for you so they stick around because that's their way of helping to keep you safe.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4547.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"o6wdir","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why does my cat spend time with me when I'm sick? Or \"comforting\" me when I'm crying? I have two cats, and I'll be talking about my older one (who is btw mom to my other cat). She's an extremely smart cat, I honestly never seen a cat this smart.  But she's also very independent. She's 7 year old and prefers to spend time on her own.  I'm not sure if this was the case ever since I got her, but every time someone in my family gets sick (me, my mom or my sister) she spends most of the time with us. She doesn't hang out in my room that much, she may come to check it out, check on me, hit my other cat on the head and leaves. But when I'm sick, she lays on the foot of my bed and just sleeps there for better part of the day. She doesn't sleep close to my face, or on me, but just by my feet. She does the same with my sister and my mom.   She also always always comes to me when I cry, like she's trying to comfort me. She doesn't like me hugging her at all, but in these situation she tolerates it a little bit.  Does she actually understand what's going on? Does she feels the need to be there for me? I'm very curious.","c_root_id_A":"h2y2bn8","c_root_id_B":"h2xw4i5","created_at_utc_A":1624584356,"created_at_utc_B":1624580956,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Cats communicate with each other non verbally.  To name a few, things like body stance, pupil dilation, speed of eye movement, and tail position are all ways cats communicate how they are feeling.  Cats are also suuuper aware at reading those cues on other cats, and humans.  Maybe your cat is sensing you're breathing differently, moving slower, using the bathroom more frequently, or your body temperature is elevated.  All those things are being communicated and your cat is responding.  They love and care for you so they stick around because that's their way of helping to keep you safe.","human_ref_B":"Is it possible that they think you are about to die and they are waiting for a moment of weakness?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3400.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"nqiphf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My understanding is getting a dog spay is like a hysterectomy and requires similar recovery time, why does it cost $180-$500 but a human one is like tens of thousands? If anything it\u2019s harder with a dog as they\u2019re smaller","c_root_id_A":"h0bo8dk","c_root_id_B":"h0bju98","created_at_utc_A":1622648082,"created_at_utc_B":1622646158,"score_A":49,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Also there's a reversal here, in that many, many women are begging their doctors for a hysterectomy,  and get refused for various reasons (\"too young\", \"you will change your mind\", etc), even if the woman is in incredible pain and chronically ill, and has no desire to have children. They simply cannot find anyone willing to perform the surgery.  Conversely, vets, shelter's and advocates are begging owners to spay and neuter the pets, and often met with apathy, or strong resistance. Many offer subsidised spay\/neuter to offset the cost. Some people want to breed to make money, some think their cat needs to have one litter before they are spayed, some think they shouldn't deprive an animal of the experience of being a mother. Some are just lazy. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of pets are killed needlessly each year due to no space in shelter's.","human_ref_B":"Human medical professionals get paid more.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1924.0,"score_ratio":1.5806451613}
{"post_id":"a789ew","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Update] Puppy born 60 hours after others -- what to do? [Original Post.  Hi \/r\/askvet, thought you might like an update. My late-to-the-party miracle boy will celebrate his 10-week birthday tomorrow. He got his first round of shots two weeks ago and seems to be doing ok according to my vet.  I have talked to some of my breeder friends and none of them have ever heard of anything like that. The closest I've heard was 24 hours after the last puppy, and that one was dead.  Puppy tax","c_root_id_A":"ec25pv0","c_root_id_B":"ec25i08","created_at_utc_A":1545158084,"created_at_utc_B":1545157917,"score_A":28,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"So I\u2019m not sure if anecdotes (\/story) are okay in this case since you are not asking a question anymore. Otherwise mods feel free to delete ;)  We have a chihuahua breeder in our practice, and two puppy\u2019s were born one week before the estimated day of delivery. The other two were alive and well and stayed inside for another week! It was amazing. Breeder is also amazing and stopped by everyday for an ultrasound check of the baby\u2019s still inside. And of course a general exam of mom every day.  Four happy puppy\u2019s and an amazing story.  Glad to hear he\u2019s doing great!","human_ref_B":"It seems cruel you have only provided us with one picture. I want to see more of the handsome boy! Did you end up giving him a colostrum replacement?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":167.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"a789ew","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Update] Puppy born 60 hours after others -- what to do? [Original Post.  Hi \/r\/askvet, thought you might like an update. My late-to-the-party miracle boy will celebrate his 10-week birthday tomorrow. He got his first round of shots two weeks ago and seems to be doing ok according to my vet.  I have talked to some of my breeder friends and none of them have ever heard of anything like that. The closest I've heard was 24 hours after the last puppy, and that one was dead.  Puppy tax","c_root_id_A":"ec25pv0","c_root_id_B":"ec1skez","created_at_utc_A":1545158084,"created_at_utc_B":1545148117,"score_A":28,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"So I\u2019m not sure if anecdotes (\/story) are okay in this case since you are not asking a question anymore. Otherwise mods feel free to delete ;)  We have a chihuahua breeder in our practice, and two puppy\u2019s were born one week before the estimated day of delivery. The other two were alive and well and stayed inside for another week! It was amazing. Breeder is also amazing and stopped by everyday for an ultrasound check of the baby\u2019s still inside. And of course a general exam of mom every day.  Four happy puppy\u2019s and an amazing story.  Glad to hear he\u2019s doing great!","human_ref_B":"Lucky boy! Wish him and you a happy long life together \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9967.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"a789ew","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Update] Puppy born 60 hours after others -- what to do? [Original Post.  Hi \/r\/askvet, thought you might like an update. My late-to-the-party miracle boy will celebrate his 10-week birthday tomorrow. He got his first round of shots two weeks ago and seems to be doing ok according to my vet.  I have talked to some of my breeder friends and none of them have ever heard of anything like that. The closest I've heard was 24 hours after the last puppy, and that one was dead.  Puppy tax","c_root_id_A":"ec25pv0","c_root_id_B":"ec1vjdf","created_at_utc_A":1545158084,"created_at_utc_B":1545150446,"score_A":28,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"So I\u2019m not sure if anecdotes (\/story) are okay in this case since you are not asking a question anymore. Otherwise mods feel free to delete ;)  We have a chihuahua breeder in our practice, and two puppy\u2019s were born one week before the estimated day of delivery. The other two were alive and well and stayed inside for another week! It was amazing. Breeder is also amazing and stopped by everyday for an ultrasound check of the baby\u2019s still inside. And of course a general exam of mom every day.  Four happy puppy\u2019s and an amazing story.  Glad to hear he\u2019s doing great!","human_ref_B":"Glad to get an update! :) I was thinking about your puppy recently, actually!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7638.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"a789ew","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Update] Puppy born 60 hours after others -- what to do? [Original Post.  Hi \/r\/askvet, thought you might like an update. My late-to-the-party miracle boy will celebrate his 10-week birthday tomorrow. He got his first round of shots two weeks ago and seems to be doing ok according to my vet.  I have talked to some of my breeder friends and none of them have ever heard of anything like that. The closest I've heard was 24 hours after the last puppy, and that one was dead.  Puppy tax","c_root_id_A":"ec1skez","c_root_id_B":"ec25i08","created_at_utc_A":1545148117,"created_at_utc_B":1545157917,"score_A":8,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Lucky boy! Wish him and you a happy long life together \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"It seems cruel you have only provided us with one picture. I want to see more of the handsome boy! Did you end up giving him a colostrum replacement?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9800.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"a789ew","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Update] Puppy born 60 hours after others -- what to do? [Original Post.  Hi \/r\/askvet, thought you might like an update. My late-to-the-party miracle boy will celebrate his 10-week birthday tomorrow. He got his first round of shots two weeks ago and seems to be doing ok according to my vet.  I have talked to some of my breeder friends and none of them have ever heard of anything like that. The closest I've heard was 24 hours after the last puppy, and that one was dead.  Puppy tax","c_root_id_A":"ec25i08","c_root_id_B":"ec1vjdf","created_at_utc_A":1545157917,"created_at_utc_B":1545150446,"score_A":22,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It seems cruel you have only provided us with one picture. I want to see more of the handsome boy! Did you end up giving him a colostrum replacement?","human_ref_B":"Glad to get an update! :) I was thinking about your puppy recently, actually!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7471.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmarmzu","c_root_id_B":"hmas1li","created_at_utc_A":1638036313,"created_at_utc_B":1638036479,"score_A":130,"score_B":258,"human_ref_A":"This is an extremely stressful field to work in and support staff make barely enough to live off of. This will continue until people are paid a fair amount for their experience. Places near me want assistants\/techs with 2-3 years experience and ability to draw blood, place catheters, monitor surgery, etc but don't want to pay them more than $12-15\/hour. When you have that on top of owners blaming you for their dog being sick or saying you're only in it for the money, it's very easy to get discouraged and change careers.","human_ref_B":"I left practice in April for pet insurance.   People are leaving the field for many reasons but the biggest are:  We are underpaid.  We are sick of abuse from clients and bad management. We have no work life balance. Our bodies take a lot of physical abuse. No benefits or crappy benefits.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":166.0,"score_ratio":1.9846153846}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmarmzu","c_root_id_B":"hmb2tqo","created_at_utc_A":1638036313,"created_at_utc_B":1638041031,"score_A":130,"score_B":193,"human_ref_A":"This is an extremely stressful field to work in and support staff make barely enough to live off of. This will continue until people are paid a fair amount for their experience. Places near me want assistants\/techs with 2-3 years experience and ability to draw blood, place catheters, monitor surgery, etc but don't want to pay them more than $12-15\/hour. When you have that on top of owners blaming you for their dog being sick or saying you're only in it for the money, it's very easy to get discouraged and change careers.","human_ref_B":"On top of what other people have said- Don't judge a vet clinic based on reviews. My clinic is specialty\/ER. We practice great medicine and have a lot of caring staff. We get clients who send us gifts, cards, tell us at appointments they appreciate us and we saved their pet. You know what they don't do? Leave reviews. You know who does leave reviews? People who waited too long and their pet didn't make it. People who couldn't afford care so they euthanized their pet or went elsewhere. People who declined every diagnostic we offered and then are mad that their pet is still sick and \"the vets can't tell them why\". People who made assumptions of us already based on reviews and come into our ER -looking- for things to be mad about. I've gone into a room and had people right off the bat.. before even telling me what's wrong with their pet.. say things like \"I've read your reviews and know you're going to try and rip me off\". If you're that mistrusting then just don't even come inside. For some reason it's really hard to get the hundreds of people who love you to leave reviews online, so generally vet clinic reviews are only going to be people who are upset about pricing (because most people never have had to go to an ER and don't understand why it's more expensive) or are upset because they couldn't\/wouldn't do the things recommended for their pet and choose to take it out on us. Just remember there's always two sides to the story, but we can't tell our side because it violates patient confidentiality.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4718.0,"score_ratio":1.4846153846}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb2tqo","c_root_id_B":"hmaygzf","created_at_utc_A":1638041031,"created_at_utc_B":1638039194,"score_A":193,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"On top of what other people have said- Don't judge a vet clinic based on reviews. My clinic is specialty\/ER. We practice great medicine and have a lot of caring staff. We get clients who send us gifts, cards, tell us at appointments they appreciate us and we saved their pet. You know what they don't do? Leave reviews. You know who does leave reviews? People who waited too long and their pet didn't make it. People who couldn't afford care so they euthanized their pet or went elsewhere. People who declined every diagnostic we offered and then are mad that their pet is still sick and \"the vets can't tell them why\". People who made assumptions of us already based on reviews and come into our ER -looking- for things to be mad about. I've gone into a room and had people right off the bat.. before even telling me what's wrong with their pet.. say things like \"I've read your reviews and know you're going to try and rip me off\". If you're that mistrusting then just don't even come inside. For some reason it's really hard to get the hundreds of people who love you to leave reviews online, so generally vet clinic reviews are only going to be people who are upset about pricing (because most people never have had to go to an ER and don't understand why it's more expensive) or are upset because they couldn't\/wouldn't do the things recommended for their pet and choose to take it out on us. Just remember there's always two sides to the story, but we can't tell our side because it violates patient confidentiality.","human_ref_B":"This reminds me of a conversation I had. My mother commented years ago that her dentist was having trouble finding a dental hygienist to work. She said there must be a shortage ! I told her I doubt there is a shortage of dental hygienists but the reason he can't find a hygienist, they can make more elsewhere and if there was a shortage, they absolutely can make more elsewhere.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1837.0,"score_ratio":8.0416666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbgh03","c_root_id_B":"hmb875j","created_at_utc_A":1638046654,"created_at_utc_B":1638043242,"score_A":52,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"It's the pay.  Being a veterinary technician was my favorite job by far, but there's absolutely no way I can buy a house on $15\/hr. That's the starting wage at Target.  I originally went back to college for veterinary school, but the cost of vet school is insane so can't really afford that either.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who loves the field but is dissuaded because it makes no financial sense.","human_ref_B":"Our clinic hasn't had too much difficulty getting and retaining staff, that being said, we pay significantly higher than the industry standard (I would say at least $10\/hr more).  It is really abysmal what staff, including veterinarians, are generally paid in this industry and large corps (ie - VCA) have pushed this even lower (IMO).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3412.0,"score_ratio":1.3684210526}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbgh03","c_root_id_B":"hmaygzf","created_at_utc_A":1638046654,"created_at_utc_B":1638039194,"score_A":52,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"It's the pay.  Being a veterinary technician was my favorite job by far, but there's absolutely no way I can buy a house on $15\/hr. That's the starting wage at Target.  I originally went back to college for veterinary school, but the cost of vet school is insane so can't really afford that either.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who loves the field but is dissuaded because it makes no financial sense.","human_ref_B":"This reminds me of a conversation I had. My mother commented years ago that her dentist was having trouble finding a dental hygienist to work. She said there must be a shortage ! I told her I doubt there is a shortage of dental hygienists but the reason he can't find a hygienist, they can make more elsewhere and if there was a shortage, they absolutely can make more elsewhere.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7460.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbgh03","c_root_id_B":"hmb872f","created_at_utc_A":1638046654,"created_at_utc_B":1638043241,"score_A":52,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It's the pay.  Being a veterinary technician was my favorite job by far, but there's absolutely no way I can buy a house on $15\/hr. That's the starting wage at Target.  I originally went back to college for veterinary school, but the cost of vet school is insane so can't really afford that either.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who loves the field but is dissuaded because it makes no financial sense.","human_ref_B":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3413.0,"score_ratio":10.4}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmb875j","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638043242,"score_A":39,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":"Our clinic hasn't had too much difficulty getting and retaining staff, that being said, we pay significantly higher than the industry standard (I would say at least $10\/hr more).  It is really abysmal what staff, including veterinarians, are generally paid in this industry and large corps (ie - VCA) have pushed this even lower (IMO).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21004.0,"score_ratio":1.0263157895}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb875j","c_root_id_B":"hmaygzf","created_at_utc_A":1638043242,"created_at_utc_B":1638039194,"score_A":38,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Our clinic hasn't had too much difficulty getting and retaining staff, that being said, we pay significantly higher than the industry standard (I would say at least $10\/hr more).  It is really abysmal what staff, including veterinarians, are generally paid in this industry and large corps (ie - VCA) have pushed this even lower (IMO).","human_ref_B":"This reminds me of a conversation I had. My mother commented years ago that her dentist was having trouble finding a dental hygienist to work. She said there must be a shortage ! I told her I doubt there is a shortage of dental hygienists but the reason he can't find a hygienist, they can make more elsewhere and if there was a shortage, they absolutely can make more elsewhere.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4048.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb872f","c_root_id_B":"hmb875j","created_at_utc_A":1638043241,"created_at_utc_B":1638043242,"score_A":5,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","human_ref_B":"Our clinic hasn't had too much difficulty getting and retaining staff, that being said, we pay significantly higher than the industry standard (I would say at least $10\/hr more).  It is really abysmal what staff, including veterinarians, are generally paid in this industry and large corps (ie - VCA) have pushed this even lower (IMO).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1.0,"score_ratio":7.6}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmbj0c8","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638047745,"score_A":39,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":">Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic?  This isn't solely a US issue, nor is it a recent one;)  The debate regarding vet shortages in the UK for example has been debated since before I graduated almost 10 years ago!  Covid was simply a catalyst for some that were tired or disheartened with the profession to retire or retrain. Added to that Covid brought record levels of new pet ownership.  If you look at the UK the situation was potentially worsened by the effect of Brexit with EU vets emigrating pre-Brexit given the uncertainty regarding residency and work visas.  >Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now?  They have. Significantly more are graduating, whether via new vet schools opening up, intakes being maximised or even some vet schools offering dual intakes (thus doubling student numbers).  The problem is that very little (if anything) is being done by employers, educators and regulators to address the attrition and burnout rates.  It's a bit like trying to fill a *very* leaky bucket, just as quick as you put water in it flows out...  >How can we as consumers support you?  1. Be polite 2. Be gracious 3. Pay your bill on time  >What is the solution?  This is the debate...  It's a multi-factorial issue with candidate selection, education, management, corporatisation, career progression, work-life balance, remuneration, client\/public expectations, blame\/complaints culture, etc.  Practice management is a very *fashionable* topic of blame at the moment, and I'm not denying that it can have a significant impact, but it is a lot more complicated than that.  For me personally, more appreciative\/gracious customers and better pay\/progression would make the greatest difference to my quality of life and work satisfaction.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16501.0,"score_ratio":1.3928571429}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmaygzf","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638039194,"score_A":39,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":"This reminds me of a conversation I had. My mother commented years ago that her dentist was having trouble finding a dental hygienist to work. She said there must be a shortage ! I told her I doubt there is a shortage of dental hygienists but the reason he can't find a hygienist, they can make more elsewhere and if there was a shortage, they absolutely can make more elsewhere.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25052.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiaml","c_root_id_B":"hmcjcyg","created_at_utc_A":1638047431,"created_at_utc_B":1638064246,"score_A":22,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"On top of what others have said, which I totally agree with, there's an issue with no national recognition of support staff titling which adds to the wage issue. I'm a licensed veterinary technician. I went to school and passed my boards exam to get my license. But anyone off the street can get hired and on their first day call themselves a tech, get paid the same wage, and be allowed to perform the same amount of procedures. Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of good on the job trained veterinary professionals, but it devalues my education and experience.   We're also suffering supply chain issues from COVID. Not only is human med sucking up almost everything that's produced, the wage issue effects everything from production to drivers.   Plus, yes, people can be so nasty you wouldn't believe. Plus, yes, the situations we get put in can be soul wrenching. For example, I worked an ER shift on Thanksgiving and I was the tech for 3 euthanasias. Two with screaming, crying children and one with a young man who threatened suicide. That was 3 out of the 12 total that day for the clinic.  I don't know what to tell you, because I don't know what the answer is. The truth is that the system is very broken right now. Be a good person, accept the limitations that are in place right now, and support minimum wage increases and title recognition, and hopefully things will get better.","human_ref_B":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16815.0,"score_ratio":1.7727272727}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmc4dwu","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638057276,"score_A":39,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":"If vets and vet techs got raises","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6970.0,"score_ratio":3.9}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmc9xai","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638059799,"score_A":39,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":"I can only speak for myself and I only have about a year of experience.  What others have said is true about physical labor, poor pay\/benefits, no life\/work balance, and abuse from clients.  My biggest issue is new veterinary professionals aren't being trained.  I left my job as an LVT a few weeks ago because I spent all of my time filling medications and organizing files. I graduated this past year and acquired my license in July. Since then...nothing. No surgery training, no monitoring, blood drawing was extremely rare (once every few months rare) I wasn't experienced enough with lab work yet. I wasn't being trained...if anything I was going backwards. They didn't even want me holding animals.  Since then I've applied to at least a dozen vets in the area. Many of them are not hiring, or want someone with 2-5+ years experience. One even blatantly said they wouldn't consider someone new to the field. So yes new professionals are graduating, but that's where the learning stops. Once you stop learning in veterinary medicine, there's a problem.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4447.0,"score_ratio":4.875}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiuen","c_root_id_B":"hmcjcyg","created_at_utc_A":1638047673,"created_at_utc_B":1638064246,"score_A":6,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","human_ref_B":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16573.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbvh1z","c_root_id_B":"hmcjcyg","created_at_utc_A":1638053281,"created_at_utc_B":1638064246,"score_A":5,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m a tech but it\u2019s bad that most people working retail or food service make more then us. Just like everywhere we are short staffed. So many restaurants around me have cut back hours because of a shortage of people working and they can\u2019t pay what corporate company\u2019s pay. McDonald\u2019s near me pays $17.  And where I work they start around $14. Depending on experience)","human_ref_B":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10965.0,"score_ratio":7.8}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcjcyg","c_root_id_B":"hmb872f","created_at_utc_A":1638064246,"created_at_utc_B":1638043241,"score_A":39,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"**What will solve the labor shortage in veterinary field?**  A few ideas...  * Fire abusive clients \/ less tolerance of bullshit \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field (turnover), decrease suicide rate** * Respect and encourage work-life balance; enforce good quality of life practices (decreased hours, reasonable case load, good vacation, good benefits) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Charge a no show fee to clients that miss appointments, and do not cater to really late clients  \u2192 decrease people scheduling appts they won't show up for **\u2192 increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Create a schedule\/environment where doctors can actually call out if they are sick! (I mean, of course it is allowed... but if you call out, then your staff don't get hours\/paid and 22 pets don't get care and you have to work twice as hard the next day) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase mental health resources (and quality of those resources) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Pay people what they are worth \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate, increase new grads** * Charge appropriately for the work done (vet professionals are very empathetic, and undercharge OFTEN) \u2192 increase ability to pay vet professionals \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Increase pet insurance adoption in the USA \u2192 fewer financial issues for clients, less compassion fatigue for clinicians, improved patient outcome \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Increase preventative care \u2192 catch disease early\/prevent disease \u2192 fewer pets needing appts \u2192 **decrease staff leaving field, decrease suicide rate** * Better client compliance **\u2192** fewer pets need appt\/fewer mad clients\/less disease \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate** * Spay\/neuter animals \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them** * Decrease anti-intellectualism \u2192 increased trust in professional's opinions (instead of listening to their breeder\/Google\/friend and feeding raw diets or refusing vaccines) \u2192 fewer pets that need medical attention \u2192 **increase available appts for those that need them, decrease staff turnover** * Increase client knowledge about socializing\/training animals, and increase compliance when it comes to behavioral issues \u2192 fewer workplace injuries (bites, scratches) and less job stress \u2192 **decrease staff turnover** * Change vet school entry requirements **\u2192** decreased self selection for perfectionists (correlated with anxiety\/depression) \u2192 **decrease staff turnover, decrease suicide rate**  Increase new graduates (vets and CVTs):  * Very difficult to increase # of graduates, because you need a very precise amount of  hands on experience. Therefore, you cannot increase class size much, or you reduce the amount of training each person gets. Adding new schools is an option, but takes a long time to get accredited (and there are obviously other barriers to making a new medical school) * Increase STEM access * Increase quality of life in the field (many vets advise against joining the field) * Decrease cost of school, and increase student loan forgiveness  Add mid-level professionals and urgent cares:  * Currently no \"nurse practitioner\" or \"physicians assistant\" license\/position, and that position would help alleviate the burden on veterinarians * Urgent care for small emergencies\/urgencies to reduce the burden on both GP clinics and ERs. Currently, GP clinics can't fit in even their normal wellness\/healthy appts, so they have to turn away the emergencies\/urgencies they would normally handle (vomiting\/diarrhea, torn nail, laceration, ear infection), so these clients have to resort to going to the ER. Then the ER gets full and cannot see severe emergencies.","human_ref_B":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21005.0,"score_ratio":7.8}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmaygzf","c_root_id_B":"hmbj0c8","created_at_utc_A":1638039194,"created_at_utc_B":1638047745,"score_A":24,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"This reminds me of a conversation I had. My mother commented years ago that her dentist was having trouble finding a dental hygienist to work. She said there must be a shortage ! I told her I doubt there is a shortage of dental hygienists but the reason he can't find a hygienist, they can make more elsewhere and if there was a shortage, they absolutely can make more elsewhere.","human_ref_B":">Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic?  This isn't solely a US issue, nor is it a recent one;)  The debate regarding vet shortages in the UK for example has been debated since before I graduated almost 10 years ago!  Covid was simply a catalyst for some that were tired or disheartened with the profession to retire or retrain. Added to that Covid brought record levels of new pet ownership.  If you look at the UK the situation was potentially worsened by the effect of Brexit with EU vets emigrating pre-Brexit given the uncertainty regarding residency and work visas.  >Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now?  They have. Significantly more are graduating, whether via new vet schools opening up, intakes being maximised or even some vet schools offering dual intakes (thus doubling student numbers).  The problem is that very little (if anything) is being done by employers, educators and regulators to address the attrition and burnout rates.  It's a bit like trying to fill a *very* leaky bucket, just as quick as you put water in it flows out...  >How can we as consumers support you?  1. Be polite 2. Be gracious 3. Pay your bill on time  >What is the solution?  This is the debate...  It's a multi-factorial issue with candidate selection, education, management, corporatisation, career progression, work-life balance, remuneration, client\/public expectations, blame\/complaints culture, etc.  Practice management is a very *fashionable* topic of blame at the moment, and I'm not denying that it can have a significant impact, but it is a lot more complicated than that.  For me personally, more appreciative\/gracious customers and better pay\/progression would make the greatest difference to my quality of life and work satisfaction.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8551.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiaml","c_root_id_B":"hmbj0c8","created_at_utc_A":1638047431,"created_at_utc_B":1638047745,"score_A":22,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"On top of what others have said, which I totally agree with, there's an issue with no national recognition of support staff titling which adds to the wage issue. I'm a licensed veterinary technician. I went to school and passed my boards exam to get my license. But anyone off the street can get hired and on their first day call themselves a tech, get paid the same wage, and be allowed to perform the same amount of procedures. Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of good on the job trained veterinary professionals, but it devalues my education and experience.   We're also suffering supply chain issues from COVID. Not only is human med sucking up almost everything that's produced, the wage issue effects everything from production to drivers.   Plus, yes, people can be so nasty you wouldn't believe. Plus, yes, the situations we get put in can be soul wrenching. For example, I worked an ER shift on Thanksgiving and I was the tech for 3 euthanasias. Two with screaming, crying children and one with a young man who threatened suicide. That was 3 out of the 12 total that day for the clinic.  I don't know what to tell you, because I don't know what the answer is. The truth is that the system is very broken right now. Be a good person, accept the limitations that are in place right now, and support minimum wage increases and title recognition, and hopefully things will get better.","human_ref_B":">Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic?  This isn't solely a US issue, nor is it a recent one;)  The debate regarding vet shortages in the UK for example has been debated since before I graduated almost 10 years ago!  Covid was simply a catalyst for some that were tired or disheartened with the profession to retire or retrain. Added to that Covid brought record levels of new pet ownership.  If you look at the UK the situation was potentially worsened by the effect of Brexit with EU vets emigrating pre-Brexit given the uncertainty regarding residency and work visas.  >Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now?  They have. Significantly more are graduating, whether via new vet schools opening up, intakes being maximised or even some vet schools offering dual intakes (thus doubling student numbers).  The problem is that very little (if anything) is being done by employers, educators and regulators to address the attrition and burnout rates.  It's a bit like trying to fill a *very* leaky bucket, just as quick as you put water in it flows out...  >How can we as consumers support you?  1. Be polite 2. Be gracious 3. Pay your bill on time  >What is the solution?  This is the debate...  It's a multi-factorial issue with candidate selection, education, management, corporatisation, career progression, work-life balance, remuneration, client\/public expectations, blame\/complaints culture, etc.  Practice management is a very *fashionable* topic of blame at the moment, and I'm not denying that it can have a significant impact, but it is a lot more complicated than that.  For me personally, more appreciative\/gracious customers and better pay\/progression would make the greatest difference to my quality of life and work satisfaction.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":314.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiuen","c_root_id_B":"hmbj0c8","created_at_utc_A":1638047673,"created_at_utc_B":1638047745,"score_A":6,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","human_ref_B":">Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic?  This isn't solely a US issue, nor is it a recent one;)  The debate regarding vet shortages in the UK for example has been debated since before I graduated almost 10 years ago!  Covid was simply a catalyst for some that were tired or disheartened with the profession to retire or retrain. Added to that Covid brought record levels of new pet ownership.  If you look at the UK the situation was potentially worsened by the effect of Brexit with EU vets emigrating pre-Brexit given the uncertainty regarding residency and work visas.  >Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now?  They have. Significantly more are graduating, whether via new vet schools opening up, intakes being maximised or even some vet schools offering dual intakes (thus doubling student numbers).  The problem is that very little (if anything) is being done by employers, educators and regulators to address the attrition and burnout rates.  It's a bit like trying to fill a *very* leaky bucket, just as quick as you put water in it flows out...  >How can we as consumers support you?  1. Be polite 2. Be gracious 3. Pay your bill on time  >What is the solution?  This is the debate...  It's a multi-factorial issue with candidate selection, education, management, corporatisation, career progression, work-life balance, remuneration, client\/public expectations, blame\/complaints culture, etc.  Practice management is a very *fashionable* topic of blame at the moment, and I'm not denying that it can have a significant impact, but it is a lot more complicated than that.  For me personally, more appreciative\/gracious customers and better pay\/progression would make the greatest difference to my quality of life and work satisfaction.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":72.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb872f","c_root_id_B":"hmbj0c8","created_at_utc_A":1638043241,"created_at_utc_B":1638047745,"score_A":5,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","human_ref_B":">Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic?  This isn't solely a US issue, nor is it a recent one;)  The debate regarding vet shortages in the UK for example has been debated since before I graduated almost 10 years ago!  Covid was simply a catalyst for some that were tired or disheartened with the profession to retire or retrain. Added to that Covid brought record levels of new pet ownership.  If you look at the UK the situation was potentially worsened by the effect of Brexit with EU vets emigrating pre-Brexit given the uncertainty regarding residency and work visas.  >Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now?  They have. Significantly more are graduating, whether via new vet schools opening up, intakes being maximised or even some vet schools offering dual intakes (thus doubling student numbers).  The problem is that very little (if anything) is being done by employers, educators and regulators to address the attrition and burnout rates.  It's a bit like trying to fill a *very* leaky bucket, just as quick as you put water in it flows out...  >How can we as consumers support you?  1. Be polite 2. Be gracious 3. Pay your bill on time  >What is the solution?  This is the debate...  It's a multi-factorial issue with candidate selection, education, management, corporatisation, career progression, work-life balance, remuneration, client\/public expectations, blame\/complaints culture, etc.  Practice management is a very *fashionable* topic of blame at the moment, and I'm not denying that it can have a significant impact, but it is a lot more complicated than that.  For me personally, more appreciative\/gracious customers and better pay\/progression would make the greatest difference to my quality of life and work satisfaction.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4504.0,"score_ratio":5.6}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiaml","c_root_id_B":"hmb872f","created_at_utc_A":1638047431,"created_at_utc_B":1638043241,"score_A":22,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"On top of what others have said, which I totally agree with, there's an issue with no national recognition of support staff titling which adds to the wage issue. I'm a licensed veterinary technician. I went to school and passed my boards exam to get my license. But anyone off the street can get hired and on their first day call themselves a tech, get paid the same wage, and be allowed to perform the same amount of procedures. Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of good on the job trained veterinary professionals, but it devalues my education and experience.   We're also suffering supply chain issues from COVID. Not only is human med sucking up almost everything that's produced, the wage issue effects everything from production to drivers.   Plus, yes, people can be so nasty you wouldn't believe. Plus, yes, the situations we get put in can be soul wrenching. For example, I worked an ER shift on Thanksgiving and I was the tech for 3 euthanasias. Two with screaming, crying children and one with a young man who threatened suicide. That was 3 out of the 12 total that day for the clinic.  I don't know what to tell you, because I don't know what the answer is. The truth is that the system is very broken right now. Be a good person, accept the limitations that are in place right now, and support minimum wage increases and title recognition, and hopefully things will get better.","human_ref_B":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4190.0,"score_ratio":4.4}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcneoe","c_root_id_B":"hmc4dwu","created_at_utc_A":1638066183,"created_at_utc_B":1638057276,"score_A":11,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I feel as though people have gotten so damn *ugly* during the covid pandemic.  I get it, y'all are stressed. Your life as you knew it changed. You're terrified for your loved ones. You're frustrated with being unable to do what you used to before. But it isn't a reason to unload your anger on others.  And vet staff, we can't let *all* the blame go to owners. We're swamped, we have more clients than ever and we have an inefficient way of doing things due to health guidelines. But it's not a reason to be outwardly negative and toxic to clients and each other.  Also, I don't really need the money. I can skate by on one income. However, it is a huge hit to my soul and ego when I see new hires at Hobby Lobby get paid more than me, yet it's the feds that are on *my ass* if the drug logs are incorrect. It's not so much the actual money, but the recognition and respect that wage represents. Maybe if a place can't afford to pay their employees, give them a discount or a vet credit or something.","human_ref_B":"If vets and vet techs got raises","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8907.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcneoe","c_root_id_B":"hmc9xai","created_at_utc_A":1638066183,"created_at_utc_B":1638059799,"score_A":11,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I feel as though people have gotten so damn *ugly* during the covid pandemic.  I get it, y'all are stressed. Your life as you knew it changed. You're terrified for your loved ones. You're frustrated with being unable to do what you used to before. But it isn't a reason to unload your anger on others.  And vet staff, we can't let *all* the blame go to owners. We're swamped, we have more clients than ever and we have an inefficient way of doing things due to health guidelines. But it's not a reason to be outwardly negative and toxic to clients and each other.  Also, I don't really need the money. I can skate by on one income. However, it is a huge hit to my soul and ego when I see new hires at Hobby Lobby get paid more than me, yet it's the feds that are on *my ass* if the drug logs are incorrect. It's not so much the actual money, but the recognition and respect that wage represents. Maybe if a place can't afford to pay their employees, give them a discount or a vet credit or something.","human_ref_B":"I can only speak for myself and I only have about a year of experience.  What others have said is true about physical labor, poor pay\/benefits, no life\/work balance, and abuse from clients.  My biggest issue is new veterinary professionals aren't being trained.  I left my job as an LVT a few weeks ago because I spent all of my time filling medications and organizing files. I graduated this past year and acquired my license in July. Since then...nothing. No surgery training, no monitoring, blood drawing was extremely rare (once every few months rare) I wasn't experienced enough with lab work yet. I wasn't being trained...if anything I was going backwards. They didn't even want me holding animals.  Since then I've applied to at least a dozen vets in the area. Many of them are not hiring, or want someone with 2-5+ years experience. One even blatantly said they wouldn't consider someone new to the field. So yes new professionals are graduating, but that's where the learning stops. Once you stop learning in veterinary medicine, there's a problem.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6384.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcneoe","c_root_id_B":"hmbiuen","created_at_utc_A":1638066183,"created_at_utc_B":1638047673,"score_A":11,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I feel as though people have gotten so damn *ugly* during the covid pandemic.  I get it, y'all are stressed. Your life as you knew it changed. You're terrified for your loved ones. You're frustrated with being unable to do what you used to before. But it isn't a reason to unload your anger on others.  And vet staff, we can't let *all* the blame go to owners. We're swamped, we have more clients than ever and we have an inefficient way of doing things due to health guidelines. But it's not a reason to be outwardly negative and toxic to clients and each other.  Also, I don't really need the money. I can skate by on one income. However, it is a huge hit to my soul and ego when I see new hires at Hobby Lobby get paid more than me, yet it's the feds that are on *my ass* if the drug logs are incorrect. It's not so much the actual money, but the recognition and respect that wage represents. Maybe if a place can't afford to pay their employees, give them a discount or a vet credit or something.","human_ref_B":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18510.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbvh1z","c_root_id_B":"hmcneoe","created_at_utc_A":1638053281,"created_at_utc_B":1638066183,"score_A":5,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m a tech but it\u2019s bad that most people working retail or food service make more then us. Just like everywhere we are short staffed. So many restaurants around me have cut back hours because of a shortage of people working and they can\u2019t pay what corporate company\u2019s pay. McDonald\u2019s near me pays $17.  And where I work they start around $14. Depending on experience)","human_ref_B":"I feel as though people have gotten so damn *ugly* during the covid pandemic.  I get it, y'all are stressed. Your life as you knew it changed. You're terrified for your loved ones. You're frustrated with being unable to do what you used to before. But it isn't a reason to unload your anger on others.  And vet staff, we can't let *all* the blame go to owners. We're swamped, we have more clients than ever and we have an inefficient way of doing things due to health guidelines. But it's not a reason to be outwardly negative and toxic to clients and each other.  Also, I don't really need the money. I can skate by on one income. However, it is a huge hit to my soul and ego when I see new hires at Hobby Lobby get paid more than me, yet it's the feds that are on *my ass* if the drug logs are incorrect. It's not so much the actual money, but the recognition and respect that wage represents. Maybe if a place can't afford to pay their employees, give them a discount or a vet credit or something.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12902.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmcneoe","c_root_id_B":"hmb872f","created_at_utc_A":1638066183,"created_at_utc_B":1638043241,"score_A":11,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I feel as though people have gotten so damn *ugly* during the covid pandemic.  I get it, y'all are stressed. Your life as you knew it changed. You're terrified for your loved ones. You're frustrated with being unable to do what you used to before. But it isn't a reason to unload your anger on others.  And vet staff, we can't let *all* the blame go to owners. We're swamped, we have more clients than ever and we have an inefficient way of doing things due to health guidelines. But it's not a reason to be outwardly negative and toxic to clients and each other.  Also, I don't really need the money. I can skate by on one income. However, it is a huge hit to my soul and ego when I see new hires at Hobby Lobby get paid more than me, yet it's the feds that are on *my ass* if the drug logs are incorrect. It's not so much the actual money, but the recognition and respect that wage represents. Maybe if a place can't afford to pay their employees, give them a discount or a vet credit or something.","human_ref_B":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22942.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmc4dwu","c_root_id_B":"hmbiuen","created_at_utc_A":1638057276,"created_at_utc_B":1638047673,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If vets and vet techs got raises","human_ref_B":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9603.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbvh1z","c_root_id_B":"hmc4dwu","created_at_utc_A":1638053281,"created_at_utc_B":1638057276,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m a tech but it\u2019s bad that most people working retail or food service make more then us. Just like everywhere we are short staffed. So many restaurants around me have cut back hours because of a shortage of people working and they can\u2019t pay what corporate company\u2019s pay. McDonald\u2019s near me pays $17.  And where I work they start around $14. Depending on experience)","human_ref_B":"If vets and vet techs got raises","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3995.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmc4dwu","c_root_id_B":"hmb872f","created_at_utc_A":1638057276,"created_at_utc_B":1638043241,"score_A":10,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If vets and vet techs got raises","human_ref_B":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14035.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmc9xai","c_root_id_B":"hmbiuen","created_at_utc_A":1638059799,"created_at_utc_B":1638047673,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I can only speak for myself and I only have about a year of experience.  What others have said is true about physical labor, poor pay\/benefits, no life\/work balance, and abuse from clients.  My biggest issue is new veterinary professionals aren't being trained.  I left my job as an LVT a few weeks ago because I spent all of my time filling medications and organizing files. I graduated this past year and acquired my license in July. Since then...nothing. No surgery training, no monitoring, blood drawing was extremely rare (once every few months rare) I wasn't experienced enough with lab work yet. I wasn't being trained...if anything I was going backwards. They didn't even want me holding animals.  Since then I've applied to at least a dozen vets in the area. Many of them are not hiring, or want someone with 2-5+ years experience. One even blatantly said they wouldn't consider someone new to the field. So yes new professionals are graduating, but that's where the learning stops. Once you stop learning in veterinary medicine, there's a problem.","human_ref_B":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12126.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmc9xai","c_root_id_B":"hmbvh1z","created_at_utc_A":1638059799,"created_at_utc_B":1638053281,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I can only speak for myself and I only have about a year of experience.  What others have said is true about physical labor, poor pay\/benefits, no life\/work balance, and abuse from clients.  My biggest issue is new veterinary professionals aren't being trained.  I left my job as an LVT a few weeks ago because I spent all of my time filling medications and organizing files. I graduated this past year and acquired my license in July. Since then...nothing. No surgery training, no monitoring, blood drawing was extremely rare (once every few months rare) I wasn't experienced enough with lab work yet. I wasn't being trained...if anything I was going backwards. They didn't even want me holding animals.  Since then I've applied to at least a dozen vets in the area. Many of them are not hiring, or want someone with 2-5+ years experience. One even blatantly said they wouldn't consider someone new to the field. So yes new professionals are graduating, but that's where the learning stops. Once you stop learning in veterinary medicine, there's a problem.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a tech but it\u2019s bad that most people working retail or food service make more then us. Just like everywhere we are short staffed. So many restaurants around me have cut back hours because of a shortage of people working and they can\u2019t pay what corporate company\u2019s pay. McDonald\u2019s near me pays $17.  And where I work they start around $14. Depending on experience)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6518.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb872f","c_root_id_B":"hmc9xai","created_at_utc_A":1638043241,"created_at_utc_B":1638059799,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","human_ref_B":"I can only speak for myself and I only have about a year of experience.  What others have said is true about physical labor, poor pay\/benefits, no life\/work balance, and abuse from clients.  My biggest issue is new veterinary professionals aren't being trained.  I left my job as an LVT a few weeks ago because I spent all of my time filling medications and organizing files. I graduated this past year and acquired my license in July. Since then...nothing. No surgery training, no monitoring, blood drawing was extremely rare (once every few months rare) I wasn't experienced enough with lab work yet. I wasn't being trained...if anything I was going backwards. They didn't even want me holding animals.  Since then I've applied to at least a dozen vets in the area. Many of them are not hiring, or want someone with 2-5+ years experience. One even blatantly said they wouldn't consider someone new to the field. So yes new professionals are graduating, but that's where the learning stops. Once you stop learning in veterinary medicine, there's a problem.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16558.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmbiuen","c_root_id_B":"hmdyb6g","created_at_utc_A":1638047673,"created_at_utc_B":1638095959,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","human_ref_B":"I've been a Vet Nurse for almost 20 years now and while it would be nice if all clients treated our staff with respect, unfortunately the issues we are facing right now can't be fixed by you as a consumer.  In the UK, our issues right now are losing a LOT of qualified staff due to Brexit; pet ownership increasing massively during lockdown & a lot of staff realising the stress is just not worth the money they're being paid and leaving the industry altogether.  I'm lucky enough to be getting paid a decent wage but for years I could've made more money stacking shelves in Tesco than as an experienced Registered Vet Nurse.  Lockdown did increase the stress on our staff which caused some to leave but a lot of owners really don't seem to realise how much our industry is suffering right now.  Constantly getting blamed for things - owners lack of funds, owners lack of insurance, owners lack of compliance, pet being left too long before contacting a Vet - really gets to you and the emotional blackmail is honestly enough to make you cry.  But we have to suck it up and keep working, hence why the Veterinary industry has one of the highest suicide rates.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":48286.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmdyb6g","c_root_id_B":"hmbvh1z","created_at_utc_A":1638095959,"created_at_utc_B":1638053281,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I've been a Vet Nurse for almost 20 years now and while it would be nice if all clients treated our staff with respect, unfortunately the issues we are facing right now can't be fixed by you as a consumer.  In the UK, our issues right now are losing a LOT of qualified staff due to Brexit; pet ownership increasing massively during lockdown & a lot of staff realising the stress is just not worth the money they're being paid and leaving the industry altogether.  I'm lucky enough to be getting paid a decent wage but for years I could've made more money stacking shelves in Tesco than as an experienced Registered Vet Nurse.  Lockdown did increase the stress on our staff which caused some to leave but a lot of owners really don't seem to realise how much our industry is suffering right now.  Constantly getting blamed for things - owners lack of funds, owners lack of insurance, owners lack of compliance, pet being left too long before contacting a Vet - really gets to you and the emotional blackmail is honestly enough to make you cry.  But we have to suck it up and keep working, hence why the Veterinary industry has one of the highest suicide rates.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a tech but it\u2019s bad that most people working retail or food service make more then us. Just like everywhere we are short staffed. So many restaurants around me have cut back hours because of a shortage of people working and they can\u2019t pay what corporate company\u2019s pay. McDonald\u2019s near me pays $17.  And where I work they start around $14. Depending on experience)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":42678.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb872f","c_root_id_B":"hmdyb6g","created_at_utc_A":1638043241,"created_at_utc_B":1638095959,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","human_ref_B":"I've been a Vet Nurse for almost 20 years now and while it would be nice if all clients treated our staff with respect, unfortunately the issues we are facing right now can't be fixed by you as a consumer.  In the UK, our issues right now are losing a LOT of qualified staff due to Brexit; pet ownership increasing massively during lockdown & a lot of staff realising the stress is just not worth the money they're being paid and leaving the industry altogether.  I'm lucky enough to be getting paid a decent wage but for years I could've made more money stacking shelves in Tesco than as an experienced Registered Vet Nurse.  Lockdown did increase the stress on our staff which caused some to leave but a lot of owners really don't seem to realise how much our industry is suffering right now.  Constantly getting blamed for things - owners lack of funds, owners lack of insurance, owners lack of compliance, pet being left too long before contacting a Vet - really gets to you and the emotional blackmail is honestly enough to make you cry.  But we have to suck it up and keep working, hence why the Veterinary industry has one of the highest suicide rates.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":52718.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hmb872f","c_root_id_B":"hmbiuen","created_at_utc_A":1638043241,"created_at_utc_B":1638047673,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Better salaries, less crushing hours, less competition for very few slots in schools related to all things veterinary. Look up the suicide rate for veterinarians sometime. It's *insane.*  Note: I am not a veterinary professional. I just see how hard it is for vet professionals.","human_ref_B":"I am new to the field. Started in June as a receptionist and Vet Tech school in September. The ER is crazy and pays shit. I make $18 an hour, which I can only afford because my husband makes so much more so we can afford for me to follow my passion. That said, it was hard enough for me to get my current job because everyone wants you to have experience already. Everyone around me is hiring, but good luck getting in if you don't have several years experience. And all my teammates that have been in the field before COVID began are burnt out and wanting to leave. In the ER we get some pretty intense clients too, and I will be happy the day I can just help wild animals and not have to deal with the public during the pandemic. Too many folks don't realize the labor shortages or why the long wait times and empathy is low with frustrations high.  If you want to help, encourage more people to go back to school or bring your local Vet some cookies. We love cookies.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4432.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"r3itwa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What will solve the labor shortage in vetrinary field? I\u2019m just so frustrated. My dog\u2019s head swelled up yesterday, during what used to be regular office hours for my vet, but I couldn\u2019t get advice because his office no longer answers the phone after 12pm. I have been going to this vet for years, love him, love his staff. Three generations of my family have used him. (He\u2019s not that old, my grandpa must have found him the second he graduated!)   Since Covid, I\u2019ve seen all his staff who I knew so well I could tell who answered the phone just up and leave. He had to cut hours way back. There is a 6-8 wk wait for appointments. Most of the time now you have to call between 9-12, ask a question, and then he\u2019ll call back \u201cafter hours\u201d but if you miss the call there\u2019s no way to call back because they don\u2019t answer the phone.   It\u2019s just as bad everywhere else. 2 month wait to be seen elsewhere (which I don\u2019t want to do anyway but I have called other places for urgent issues that happen during regular business hours.)   I\u2019ve been trying to get my dog into an emergency vet since 4pm yesterday. They are all at capacity and are refusing patients or have really bad reviews. I live in a major metropolitan area. My preferred emergency vet normally has 20+ doctors on staff and always has multiple docs working the ER. They are down to one, and they only recently re-opened after suspending all emergency services after hours.   I\u2019m sure those of you in the field are frustrated. We as clients are frustrated. What is the solution? Why is it still so bad 2 years into the pandemic? Why haven\u2019t new vet professionals graduated and entered the field by now? How can we as consumers support you?","c_root_id_A":"hme6p56","c_root_id_B":"hmf1n9i","created_at_utc_A":1638102525,"created_at_utc_B":1638118309,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I am in the process of possible career change and thought a vet tech would be amazing.  The pay was 13 bucks.  I can make 18 doing something less stressful with better benefits.","human_ref_B":"Across every industry the only thing that will solve the shitty job surplus is a living wage, benefits, and more time off.   People want and deserve a chance to pay their bills,  afford housing, and retire. That's literally all everyone is asking for.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15784.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"jar3x0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cold frogs\/turtles keep trapping themselves in my window well, how do I help? I have a downstairs window with a window well, and over the past few weeks I\u2019ve found three frogs and a turtle trapped down there. I think they\u2019re trying to get warm, because I always find them pressed up against the glass and feeling very chilly. I added a wooden ramp so they can hopefully get themselves out, but I feel bad when I manually remove them because now they\u2019re cold again :(   is there anywhere I should specifically try to put them to help them keep warm? I put tonight\u2019s frog under a bush with a towel-wrapped hand warmer, and he hopped right on top of it. Poor little buddy!!!","c_root_id_A":"g8sc9uk","c_root_id_B":"g8rsdd7","created_at_utc_A":1602675619,"created_at_utc_B":1602654217,"score_A":21,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I agree with other commenters, cover it so they won\u2019t get trapped there. Then give them an alternative shelter...   https:\/\/www.wildlifetrusts.org\/actions\/how-build-hibernaculum-amphibians-and-reptiles  Edit: Please don\u2019t put out a heat lamp. These are wild animals that need to hibernate. Putting out a heat lamp can prevent them from doing what comes naturally and leave them defenseless in winter conditions. Also, non-hibernating animals will need food sources that will no longer be available to them. The added heat might keep them warm for a bit but can lead to starvation if they aren\u2019t hibernating.","human_ref_B":"if you have a patio\/vergola kind of area you could create a little area with a heat lamp??","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21402.0,"score_ratio":1.1052631579}
{"post_id":"jar3x0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cold frogs\/turtles keep trapping themselves in my window well, how do I help? I have a downstairs window with a window well, and over the past few weeks I\u2019ve found three frogs and a turtle trapped down there. I think they\u2019re trying to get warm, because I always find them pressed up against the glass and feeling very chilly. I added a wooden ramp so they can hopefully get themselves out, but I feel bad when I manually remove them because now they\u2019re cold again :(   is there anywhere I should specifically try to put them to help them keep warm? I put tonight\u2019s frog under a bush with a towel-wrapped hand warmer, and he hopped right on top of it. Poor little buddy!!!","c_root_id_A":"g8sc9uk","c_root_id_B":"g8s9i56","created_at_utc_A":1602675619,"created_at_utc_B":1602672994,"score_A":21,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I agree with other commenters, cover it so they won\u2019t get trapped there. Then give them an alternative shelter...   https:\/\/www.wildlifetrusts.org\/actions\/how-build-hibernaculum-amphibians-and-reptiles  Edit: Please don\u2019t put out a heat lamp. These are wild animals that need to hibernate. Putting out a heat lamp can prevent them from doing what comes naturally and leave them defenseless in winter conditions. Also, non-hibernating animals will need food sources that will no longer be available to them. The added heat might keep them warm for a bit but can lead to starvation if they aren\u2019t hibernating.","human_ref_B":"Relocate them to my house, they sound like angels.   But really, thank you for looking out for the cuties","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2625.0,"score_ratio":1.6153846154}
{"post_id":"jar3x0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cold frogs\/turtles keep trapping themselves in my window well, how do I help? I have a downstairs window with a window well, and over the past few weeks I\u2019ve found three frogs and a turtle trapped down there. I think they\u2019re trying to get warm, because I always find them pressed up against the glass and feeling very chilly. I added a wooden ramp so they can hopefully get themselves out, but I feel bad when I manually remove them because now they\u2019re cold again :(   is there anywhere I should specifically try to put them to help them keep warm? I put tonight\u2019s frog under a bush with a towel-wrapped hand warmer, and he hopped right on top of it. Poor little buddy!!!","c_root_id_A":"g8rw5ek","c_root_id_B":"g8sc9uk","created_at_utc_A":1602657869,"created_at_utc_B":1602675619,"score_A":7,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Buy something like this  https:\/\/www.homedepot.com\/p\/MacCourt-19-in-x-15-in-Polyethylene-Reversible-Heavy-Duty-Window-Well-Cover-W4419\/202081201","human_ref_B":"I agree with other commenters, cover it so they won\u2019t get trapped there. Then give them an alternative shelter...   https:\/\/www.wildlifetrusts.org\/actions\/how-build-hibernaculum-amphibians-and-reptiles  Edit: Please don\u2019t put out a heat lamp. These are wild animals that need to hibernate. Putting out a heat lamp can prevent them from doing what comes naturally and leave them defenseless in winter conditions. Also, non-hibernating animals will need food sources that will no longer be available to them. The added heat might keep them warm for a bit but can lead to starvation if they aren\u2019t hibernating.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17750.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"jar3x0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cold frogs\/turtles keep trapping themselves in my window well, how do I help? I have a downstairs window with a window well, and over the past few weeks I\u2019ve found three frogs and a turtle trapped down there. I think they\u2019re trying to get warm, because I always find them pressed up against the glass and feeling very chilly. I added a wooden ramp so they can hopefully get themselves out, but I feel bad when I manually remove them because now they\u2019re cold again :(   is there anywhere I should specifically try to put them to help them keep warm? I put tonight\u2019s frog under a bush with a towel-wrapped hand warmer, and he hopped right on top of it. Poor little buddy!!!","c_root_id_A":"g8rw5ek","c_root_id_B":"g8s9i56","created_at_utc_A":1602657869,"created_at_utc_B":1602672994,"score_A":7,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Buy something like this  https:\/\/www.homedepot.com\/p\/MacCourt-19-in-x-15-in-Polyethylene-Reversible-Heavy-Duty-Window-Well-Cover-W4419\/202081201","human_ref_B":"Relocate them to my house, they sound like angels.   But really, thank you for looking out for the cuties","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15125.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"fnrpzs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In self isolation as I\u2019m carrying the virus. Puppy received first Lepto 4 Vacc at age 8 weeks. Vet was adamant that he would have to come in exactly 4 weeks to the day to receive the booster L4. That day is tomorrow and I don\u2019t know what to do. I can\u2019t go out nor can I interact with anyone or let anyone interact with my puppy as he could be harbouring the virus (I know they can\u2019t catch it).   Any advice on what do do?  I\u2019m in the UK","c_root_id_A":"flbsa0a","c_root_id_B":"flbnyn5","created_at_utc_A":1585011454,"created_at_utc_B":1585008673,"score_A":81,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Now that your question is answered, how are you doing, friend? Are you feeling okay? Do you need anything?   Thank you for not only keeping your pup safe but also being considerate to everyone around you and keeping them safe.","human_ref_B":"Once isolation orders are over and services resume as normal, you may be required to restart the vaccine series (1 injection, then 2nd in 4 weeks).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2781.0,"score_ratio":3.5217391304}
{"post_id":"mvpx8e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My Pomeranian is comatose after a neuter procedure. Something seems shady about it Age: 9 months Species: dog Breed: Pomeranian chihuahua    Hey all. I took my dog into the vet for a neuter procedure. He went into cardiac arrest after the procedure and the vet said she\u2019s never happened before and she\u2019s beating herself up.    Big points.   1.\tHe went without a heart beat for 7 minutes 2.\the currently has no brain activity but apparently that\u2019s the last to come back.  3.\the has light motor and talking function right now.    The vet is giving me a lot of \u201cwell maybe he had a heart issue\u201d   His vitals were normal his breathing is good now but he\u2019s still effectively brain dead. Why would this happen to an otherwise healthy dog? I know vets are human but I\u2019m smelling negligence.    They said they didn\u2019t monitor his big vitals after op just checking for breathing. The lead surgeon who didn\u2019t do the procedure came in to tell me \u201cas a member of the board who sees cases like this all the time\u201d(?) then the surgeon comes over to say she didn\u2019t do anything wrong. I feel like I\u2019m being pressured into not getting it investigated.","c_root_id_A":"gvdwmls","c_root_id_B":"gvds0z5","created_at_utc_A":1619048952,"created_at_utc_B":1619046671,"score_A":74,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry to hear about your dog. If your dog does pass, take them to a pathology lab for a necropsy by a veterinary pathologist. They will examine everything on a gross and histological level to try and determine what happened. Most vet schools and many big universities will have a lab like this, though you may have to travel a bit.  As other commenters have mentioned, there is unfortunately risk for any anesthetic procedure. An underlying heart condition can certainly contribute to this. It sounds like your vet is devastated; it\u2019s up to you if you want to report them if you think something fishy was going on but I would start by seeking out an independent necropsy.","human_ref_B":"Go to another vet immediately to get a 2nd opinion and get them to refer you to a vet specialist. Idk why the vet you went to didn't immediately refer you to a specialist.  It definitely sounds fishy. I'm so sorry to hear this. Make sure to get copies of all the paperwork and have the all correct termination written down when you call around. The sooner you can get this done the better. Time is of the essence.  I hope you can find someone that will can give you answers and hopefully help your baby. Prayers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2281.0,"score_ratio":12.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mvpx8e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My Pomeranian is comatose after a neuter procedure. Something seems shady about it Age: 9 months Species: dog Breed: Pomeranian chihuahua    Hey all. I took my dog into the vet for a neuter procedure. He went into cardiac arrest after the procedure and the vet said she\u2019s never happened before and she\u2019s beating herself up.    Big points.   1.\tHe went without a heart beat for 7 minutes 2.\the currently has no brain activity but apparently that\u2019s the last to come back.  3.\the has light motor and talking function right now.    The vet is giving me a lot of \u201cwell maybe he had a heart issue\u201d   His vitals were normal his breathing is good now but he\u2019s still effectively brain dead. Why would this happen to an otherwise healthy dog? I know vets are human but I\u2019m smelling negligence.    They said they didn\u2019t monitor his big vitals after op just checking for breathing. The lead surgeon who didn\u2019t do the procedure came in to tell me \u201cas a member of the board who sees cases like this all the time\u201d(?) then the surgeon comes over to say she didn\u2019t do anything wrong. I feel like I\u2019m being pressured into not getting it investigated.","c_root_id_A":"gvfggkt","c_root_id_B":"gvds0z5","created_at_utc_A":1619087415,"created_at_utc_B":1619046671,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet - but I lost my best mate a few weeks ago. I just wanted to say what you're going through sucks hard. There's no easing your pain and I understand you're wanting answers.  As others have said, get the answers if it'll make you feel better.  Go easy on the Vet in the meantime. No surgery is risk free, and your vet would be deviated by this situation.  They're people too!   Remember the good times, have a good cry and take care of each other.","human_ref_B":"Go to another vet immediately to get a 2nd opinion and get them to refer you to a vet specialist. Idk why the vet you went to didn't immediately refer you to a specialist.  It definitely sounds fishy. I'm so sorry to hear this. Make sure to get copies of all the paperwork and have the all correct termination written down when you call around. The sooner you can get this done the better. Time is of the essence.  I hope you can find someone that will can give you answers and hopefully help your baby. Prayers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":40744.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"m2ghuy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dog Had Surgery and Died My dog passed away today. The vet found the tumor around her intestines, and her pancreas, and called us to say that the tumor was inoperable so we decided it is best to put her down. Only one and a half years old. Well, I have pictures of the incision and tumor and I wanted to ask any vets here if they could help explain what I am seeing in the images. They are very NSFW images.","c_root_id_A":"gqiztpy","c_root_id_B":"gql2nig","created_at_utc_A":1615432286,"created_at_utc_B":1615478667,"score_A":6,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Your vet would probably know the most as they know the full history, were able to see everything during surgery and all. Most vets would be more than willing to discuss this with you if you give them a call or email.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":46381.0,"score_ratio":5.1666666667}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2spum","c_root_id_B":"gb2s7rz","created_at_utc_A":1604460102,"created_at_utc_B":1604459828,"score_A":443,"score_B":338,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s wildly inappropriate and unethical. Pain is not a condition that vets should EVER encourage in their patients. If the vet is worried about her being too active post-op, s\/he can prescribe a mild sedative until she\u2019s healed. Rarely will I ever slam another vet on the way they practice medicine, but if I saw a colleague doing this I would report it to their state board. Holy shit.","human_ref_B":"Vet here. That's not normal. Ask for another doctor or go to a different clinic.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":274.0,"score_ratio":1.3106508876}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2spum","c_root_id_B":"gb2s7ol","created_at_utc_A":1604460102,"created_at_utc_B":1604459827,"score_A":443,"score_B":114,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s wildly inappropriate and unethical. Pain is not a condition that vets should EVER encourage in their patients. If the vet is worried about her being too active post-op, s\/he can prescribe a mild sedative until she\u2019s healed. Rarely will I ever slam another vet on the way they practice medicine, but if I saw a colleague doing this I would report it to their state board. Holy shit.","human_ref_B":"So, different vets have different feelings on pain meds. You should call and insist if she\u2019s whimpering. Tell them you\u2019ll keep her inactive in the house and only allow her out on leash walks while she heals. DO NOT give her something from your own medicine cabinet, dogs and cats have different metabolism than we do so you need a med that is safe for dogs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":275.0,"score_ratio":3.8859649123}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2si1u","c_root_id_B":"gb2spum","created_at_utc_A":1604459984,"created_at_utc_B":1604460102,"score_A":68,"score_B":443,"human_ref_A":"\"Organs ripped out\" is a little bit dramatic, surgery really is precise and delicate, but I understand your sentiment.  That said, I would say your vet's approach to pain management is an old school thought process. The more we do research the more we find that appropriate pain management is important for healing. If your pet seems uncomfortable you could contact an emergency vet or contact your vet in the morning, but I would encourage you to seek pain management for your pet.  If your vet has concerns about your pet staying calm, please consider asking them about sedative options to help keep your pet calm.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s wildly inappropriate and unethical. Pain is not a condition that vets should EVER encourage in their patients. If the vet is worried about her being too active post-op, s\/he can prescribe a mild sedative until she\u2019s healed. Rarely will I ever slam another vet on the way they practice medicine, but if I saw a colleague doing this I would report it to their state board. Holy shit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":118.0,"score_ratio":6.5147058824}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2s7ol","c_root_id_B":"gb2s7rz","created_at_utc_A":1604459827,"created_at_utc_B":1604459828,"score_A":114,"score_B":338,"human_ref_A":"So, different vets have different feelings on pain meds. You should call and insist if she\u2019s whimpering. Tell them you\u2019ll keep her inactive in the house and only allow her out on leash walks while she heals. DO NOT give her something from your own medicine cabinet, dogs and cats have different metabolism than we do so you need a med that is safe for dogs.","human_ref_B":"Vet here. That's not normal. Ask for another doctor or go to a different clinic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1.0,"score_ratio":2.9649122807}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2s7ol","c_root_id_B":"gb30d20","created_at_utc_A":1604459827,"created_at_utc_B":1604464502,"score_A":114,"score_B":147,"human_ref_A":"So, different vets have different feelings on pain meds. You should call and insist if she\u2019s whimpering. Tell them you\u2019ll keep her inactive in the house and only allow her out on leash walks while she heals. DO NOT give her something from your own medicine cabinet, dogs and cats have different metabolism than we do so you need a med that is safe for dogs.","human_ref_B":"This is a very old school style of thinking, I have worked with a few older veterinarians that follow this however nowadays we do consider it cruel and even some considerate downright abusive. Gabapentin, NSAIDS, and sedatives to keep them calm is our go-to for post-operative pain management. A spay, especially on a dog the size of a Bernese mountain dog, it's taking lightly by many people, however it is still an open abdominal surgery, and the detaching of the ovarian pedicle is considered to be so painful that pain medications are actually tested during this procedure. So no, I would not consider it normal period I would ask for pain medicine, anti-inflammatories, and sedatives. I worry about what other old school methods this veterinarian chooses to use.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4675.0,"score_ratio":1.2894736842}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb30d20","c_root_id_B":"gb2t3t9","created_at_utc_A":1604464502,"created_at_utc_B":1604460313,"score_A":147,"score_B":95,"human_ref_A":"This is a very old school style of thinking, I have worked with a few older veterinarians that follow this however nowadays we do consider it cruel and even some considerate downright abusive. Gabapentin, NSAIDS, and sedatives to keep them calm is our go-to for post-operative pain management. A spay, especially on a dog the size of a Bernese mountain dog, it's taking lightly by many people, however it is still an open abdominal surgery, and the detaching of the ovarian pedicle is considered to be so painful that pain medications are actually tested during this procedure. So no, I would not consider it normal period I would ask for pain medicine, anti-inflammatories, and sedatives. I worry about what other old school methods this veterinarian chooses to use.","human_ref_B":"Please call an emergency vet and get your poor pup some relief. That is terrible practice.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4189.0,"score_ratio":1.5473684211}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2si1u","c_root_id_B":"gb30d20","created_at_utc_A":1604459984,"created_at_utc_B":1604464502,"score_A":68,"score_B":147,"human_ref_A":"\"Organs ripped out\" is a little bit dramatic, surgery really is precise and delicate, but I understand your sentiment.  That said, I would say your vet's approach to pain management is an old school thought process. The more we do research the more we find that appropriate pain management is important for healing. If your pet seems uncomfortable you could contact an emergency vet or contact your vet in the morning, but I would encourage you to seek pain management for your pet.  If your vet has concerns about your pet staying calm, please consider asking them about sedative options to help keep your pet calm.","human_ref_B":"This is a very old school style of thinking, I have worked with a few older veterinarians that follow this however nowadays we do consider it cruel and even some considerate downright abusive. Gabapentin, NSAIDS, and sedatives to keep them calm is our go-to for post-operative pain management. A spay, especially on a dog the size of a Bernese mountain dog, it's taking lightly by many people, however it is still an open abdominal surgery, and the detaching of the ovarian pedicle is considered to be so painful that pain medications are actually tested during this procedure. So no, I would not consider it normal period I would ask for pain medicine, anti-inflammatories, and sedatives. I worry about what other old school methods this veterinarian chooses to use.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4518.0,"score_ratio":2.1617647059}
{"post_id":"jnok5x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal to deny a dog pain meds after being spayed Our 45 lb bernese mountain dog mix 6 1\/2 months old got spayed today. The vet said no pain meds for home because they want her to hurt some so she will stay inactive.  She has been constantly whimpering and  unable to sleep since we got home about 6 hours ago.  Do I need to go to the vet in the morning and get her something for the pain?  It seems odd to cut into an animal and rip out organs and NOT give pain relief.","c_root_id_A":"gb2si1u","c_root_id_B":"gb2t3t9","created_at_utc_A":1604459984,"created_at_utc_B":1604460313,"score_A":68,"score_B":95,"human_ref_A":"\"Organs ripped out\" is a little bit dramatic, surgery really is precise and delicate, but I understand your sentiment.  That said, I would say your vet's approach to pain management is an old school thought process. The more we do research the more we find that appropriate pain management is important for healing. If your pet seems uncomfortable you could contact an emergency vet or contact your vet in the morning, but I would encourage you to seek pain management for your pet.  If your vet has concerns about your pet staying calm, please consider asking them about sedative options to help keep your pet calm.","human_ref_B":"Please call an emergency vet and get your poor pup some relief. That is terrible practice.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":329.0,"score_ratio":1.3970588235}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcngph1","c_root_id_B":"hcn9em7","created_at_utc_A":1631505037,"created_at_utc_B":1631501133,"score_A":59,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is an extremely unfair situation for anyone involved, and it still seems as if you've been doing the best you can. Very few pet parents go through the ordeal of seeking four \"second opinions\" for their animal's condition, and I truly do empathize for your extremely difficult journey.   From the language in your post, it seems like you understand euthanasia is going to be the most likely end for Bubbles. If his body could fail at any moment now, the stressors of continued growth and development could very well cause his physical condition and pain level deteriorate. Your vet said much the same, so I won't dwell on that any longer.   As a vet tech I feel, for cases in which the animal's condition will never improve beyond their current state, the most humane option is to euthanize early. This sounds very harsh, and I apologize again, but at this stage you are still able to control for their level of happiness and make at least one, final day of good memories. You can still give them special meals, take them to their favorite places, and simply sit, quietly, and hold them while they sleep. A person's animal doesn't know or understand why these things are happening to them, but they do understand the depth of their person's love. These things are no longer possible when that animal comes to us as an emergency, and I think the absence of those final, good memories makes it much more difficult for an animal's person to find closure.   The final decision remains yours, in the end. You seem to have a lot of empathy for Bubbles' condition, and your heart will tell you what is right. If you do decide euthanasia is the best course of action for Bubbles, please understand that we will be with you every step of the way. We will do our best to make the environment safe and comfortable, and we will wait until you are truly ready before we begin. If you are not able to remain in the room at the end, we will hold them and love them as if they were our own. Everybody cries, it never gets any easier, and we never forget the animals we help cross the bridge - but we will carry the burden together, knowing their time was peaceful and loving rather than scary or painful. No story could want for a better end.  Good luck to you, genuinely. I wish you both the best on your journey, and I hope you can find happiness in the final days with your friend.","human_ref_B":"Only you can make the decision when. I do not think there is a correct answer.  This helped me. Maybe it will help you?  https:\/\/vet.osu.edu\/vmc\/sites\/default\/files\/import\/assets\/pdf\/hospital\/companionAnimals\/HonoringtheBond\/HowDoIKnowWhen.pdf","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3904.0,"score_ratio":1.0535714286}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcn9q97","c_root_id_B":"hcngph1","created_at_utc_A":1631501297,"created_at_utc_B":1631505037,"score_A":11,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I did make the decision to euthanize my 8 month old kitten named Angelo just a few months back.   He was diagnosed with an untreatable condition, and unfortunately his illness was too progressive so he had to be put down.   One of my biggest regrets at the time was not putting him down quickly enough. It's terrible watching them degrade like that - and you have no real way of knowing how this kitten may pass. There's an awful helplessness that comes with seeing the way they look at you, hearing them call for you to do something, and knowing you can't do anything.   The decision is yours.  However based on personal experience, I'd really recommend euthanizing him while he's still happy and playful.   You can spoil him with treats, play with him, and give him the best possible thrills a cat could have. Then you can take him to the vet, and after having a wonderful day (or few days), he can be put to sleep. No fear, no pain. He'll have had a good life, and ended it feeling content.   I think you're making the right decision for him.  Its a terrible decision to have to make, but I think its admirable that you're considering his comfort and quality of life.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is an extremely unfair situation for anyone involved, and it still seems as if you've been doing the best you can. Very few pet parents go through the ordeal of seeking four \"second opinions\" for their animal's condition, and I truly do empathize for your extremely difficult journey.   From the language in your post, it seems like you understand euthanasia is going to be the most likely end for Bubbles. If his body could fail at any moment now, the stressors of continued growth and development could very well cause his physical condition and pain level deteriorate. Your vet said much the same, so I won't dwell on that any longer.   As a vet tech I feel, for cases in which the animal's condition will never improve beyond their current state, the most humane option is to euthanize early. This sounds very harsh, and I apologize again, but at this stage you are still able to control for their level of happiness and make at least one, final day of good memories. You can still give them special meals, take them to their favorite places, and simply sit, quietly, and hold them while they sleep. A person's animal doesn't know or understand why these things are happening to them, but they do understand the depth of their person's love. These things are no longer possible when that animal comes to us as an emergency, and I think the absence of those final, good memories makes it much more difficult for an animal's person to find closure.   The final decision remains yours, in the end. You seem to have a lot of empathy for Bubbles' condition, and your heart will tell you what is right. If you do decide euthanasia is the best course of action for Bubbles, please understand that we will be with you every step of the way. We will do our best to make the environment safe and comfortable, and we will wait until you are truly ready before we begin. If you are not able to remain in the room at the end, we will hold them and love them as if they were our own. Everybody cries, it never gets any easier, and we never forget the animals we help cross the bridge - but we will carry the burden together, knowing their time was peaceful and loving rather than scary or painful. No story could want for a better end.  Good luck to you, genuinely. I wish you both the best on your journey, and I hope you can find happiness in the final days with your friend.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3740.0,"score_ratio":5.3636363636}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcn9q97","c_root_id_B":"hcnkfd6","created_at_utc_A":1631501297,"created_at_utc_B":1631507198,"score_A":11,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I did make the decision to euthanize my 8 month old kitten named Angelo just a few months back.   He was diagnosed with an untreatable condition, and unfortunately his illness was too progressive so he had to be put down.   One of my biggest regrets at the time was not putting him down quickly enough. It's terrible watching them degrade like that - and you have no real way of knowing how this kitten may pass. There's an awful helplessness that comes with seeing the way they look at you, hearing them call for you to do something, and knowing you can't do anything.   The decision is yours.  However based on personal experience, I'd really recommend euthanizing him while he's still happy and playful.   You can spoil him with treats, play with him, and give him the best possible thrills a cat could have. Then you can take him to the vet, and after having a wonderful day (or few days), he can be put to sleep. No fear, no pain. He'll have had a good life, and ended it feeling content.   I think you're making the right decision for him.  Its a terrible decision to have to make, but I think its admirable that you're considering his comfort and quality of life.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry that you are facing the grief and the heartbreak of this situation, and I thank you for taking this little guy in and giving him the best life, albeit how short it may wind up being. I want to just provide you some pet loss and grief resources, and hope that they may help you find some solace and relief now or later. My heart is with you and Bubbles.  https:\/\/www.lapoflove.com\/pet-loss-support-resources","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5901.0,"score_ratio":2.8181818182}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcnkfd6","c_root_id_B":"hcngzn0","created_at_utc_A":1631507198,"created_at_utc_B":1631505197,"score_A":31,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry that you are facing the grief and the heartbreak of this situation, and I thank you for taking this little guy in and giving him the best life, albeit how short it may wind up being. I want to just provide you some pet loss and grief resources, and hope that they may help you find some solace and relief now or later. My heart is with you and Bubbles.  https:\/\/www.lapoflove.com\/pet-loss-support-resources","human_ref_B":"Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2001.0,"score_ratio":10.3333333333}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcnoyae","c_root_id_B":"hcnrxyt","created_at_utc_A":1631510143,"created_at_utc_B":1631512267,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry you are in this position. Just remember that he doesn't have an expectation of how long his life 'should' have been, only how he feels from day to day. In my opinion its better to let a pet go a day too early rather than half an hour too late.  Its always an especially heartbreaking decision when a pet still appears 'healthy' but without its impossible to know what the tipping point is when his little body will no longer be able to cope. If this were my pet, having the information that you have I would not be waiting until he is showing visible signs of suffering (animals are very good at hiding pain and discomfort).   It's clear you care about your little guy, but worrying that he's taken a turn when he's out of your line of sight is also not good for your own health. If something did happen while you were out youre understandably going to be plagued with 'what ifs'.  Talk with your veterinary team but I would suggest make an appointment (home visit or clinic) spend some quality time with him, spoil him with all of his favourite treats and as hard as it is let him go.  As someone who worked as a veterinary nurse I would suggest having a discussion ahead of time with your vet about their euthanasia procedure and what to expect. Also as hard as it is think about what you want to do after, do you have somewhere to bury your little guy or is cremation an option you want to look into.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2124.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcnrxyt","c_root_id_B":"hcngzn0","created_at_utc_A":1631512267,"created_at_utc_B":1631505197,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Im so sorry you are in this position. Just remember that he doesn't have an expectation of how long his life 'should' have been, only how he feels from day to day. In my opinion its better to let a pet go a day too early rather than half an hour too late.  Its always an especially heartbreaking decision when a pet still appears 'healthy' but without its impossible to know what the tipping point is when his little body will no longer be able to cope. If this were my pet, having the information that you have I would not be waiting until he is showing visible signs of suffering (animals are very good at hiding pain and discomfort).   It's clear you care about your little guy, but worrying that he's taken a turn when he's out of your line of sight is also not good for your own health. If something did happen while you were out youre understandably going to be plagued with 'what ifs'.  Talk with your veterinary team but I would suggest make an appointment (home visit or clinic) spend some quality time with him, spoil him with all of his favourite treats and as hard as it is let him go.  As someone who worked as a veterinary nurse I would suggest having a discussion ahead of time with your vet about their euthanasia procedure and what to expect. Also as hard as it is think about what you want to do after, do you have somewhere to bury your little guy or is cremation an option you want to look into.","human_ref_B":"Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7070.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcoy5jd","c_root_id_B":"hcnoyae","created_at_utc_A":1631542415,"created_at_utc_B":1631510143,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Quality of life over quantity of life.","human_ref_B":"I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":32272.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcngzn0","c_root_id_B":"hcnoyae","created_at_utc_A":1631505197,"created_at_utc_B":1631510143,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.","human_ref_B":"I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4946.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"pn6bw8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.","c_root_id_A":"hcoy5jd","c_root_id_B":"hcngzn0","created_at_utc_A":1631542415,"created_at_utc_B":1631505197,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Quality of life over quantity of life.","human_ref_B":"Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37218.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"iqeq6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"gay rabbits i have gone to two different vets for my bonded rabbits, one said they were both male, the other said they are both female. the two rabbits are- uh together, to keep it pg and how common are gay rabbits? i really don\u2019t want them to breed send help (just to be clear i support the lgbtq community and i hope they are the same gender i\u2019m just worried they might be of the opposite sex and have kids)","c_root_id_A":"g4s3kuy","c_root_id_B":"g4rnuq8","created_at_utc_A":1599788334,"created_at_utc_B":1599780111,"score_A":127,"score_B":100,"human_ref_A":"Rabbits should not live together unless they are both fixed, regardless of whether they are male or female","human_ref_B":"If you don't, go to a vet that specializes in rabbits and you should get them fixed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8223.0,"score_ratio":1.27}
{"post_id":"iqeq6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"gay rabbits i have gone to two different vets for my bonded rabbits, one said they were both male, the other said they are both female. the two rabbits are- uh together, to keep it pg and how common are gay rabbits? i really don\u2019t want them to breed send help (just to be clear i support the lgbtq community and i hope they are the same gender i\u2019m just worried they might be of the opposite sex and have kids)","c_root_id_A":"g4s3kuy","c_root_id_B":"g4rtg4b","created_at_utc_A":1599788334,"created_at_utc_B":1599782988,"score_A":127,"score_B":49,"human_ref_A":"Rabbits should not live together unless they are both fixed, regardless of whether they are male or female","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. But I did raise rabbits in 4-H many , many moons ago. If these are less than two months it is hard to tell unless you know what you are looking at. Just like kittens. But, if over that, you should start to be able to see boy parts. They are not round and together. They are long, and on either side of the  their privates. Able to have babies at five months for dwarfs, and older depending on size.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5346.0,"score_ratio":2.5918367347}
{"post_id":"iqeq6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"gay rabbits i have gone to two different vets for my bonded rabbits, one said they were both male, the other said they are both female. the two rabbits are- uh together, to keep it pg and how common are gay rabbits? i really don\u2019t want them to breed send help (just to be clear i support the lgbtq community and i hope they are the same gender i\u2019m just worried they might be of the opposite sex and have kids)","c_root_id_A":"g4rtg4b","c_root_id_B":"g4s6dxr","created_at_utc_A":1599782988,"created_at_utc_B":1599789791,"score_A":49,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But I did raise rabbits in 4-H many , many moons ago. If these are less than two months it is hard to tell unless you know what you are looking at. Just like kittens. But, if over that, you should start to be able to see boy parts. They are not round and together. They are long, and on either side of the  their privates. Able to have babies at five months for dwarfs, and older depending on size.","human_ref_B":"Homosexuality is more common in the animal kingdom then people think.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6803.0,"score_ratio":1.5306122449}
{"post_id":"iqeq6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"gay rabbits i have gone to two different vets for my bonded rabbits, one said they were both male, the other said they are both female. the two rabbits are- uh together, to keep it pg and how common are gay rabbits? i really don\u2019t want them to breed send help (just to be clear i support the lgbtq community and i hope they are the same gender i\u2019m just worried they might be of the opposite sex and have kids)","c_root_id_A":"g4t5mn2","c_root_id_B":"g4tl94d","created_at_utc_A":1599818162,"created_at_utc_B":1599830942,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but my small rabbit has very sizable features that identify him clearly as male, they're in everyone's view when he's hopping along... What I'm saying is, how hard is it to tell?","human_ref_B":"Obligatory not-a-vet, but rabbits humping each other is not reserved to sexual activity. I had two females from the same litter and the dominant sister would hump her sibling to assert dominance.   When choosing a vet, make sure to ask if they have an exotic pet specialist who specializes in rabbits. Just because they\u2019re an exotic pet specialist and have rabbit training doesn\u2019t mean they see them regularly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12780.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"iqeq6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"gay rabbits i have gone to two different vets for my bonded rabbits, one said they were both male, the other said they are both female. the two rabbits are- uh together, to keep it pg and how common are gay rabbits? i really don\u2019t want them to breed send help (just to be clear i support the lgbtq community and i hope they are the same gender i\u2019m just worried they might be of the opposite sex and have kids)","c_root_id_A":"g4t5mn2","c_root_id_B":"g4u0jmc","created_at_utc_A":1599818162,"created_at_utc_B":1599838994,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but my small rabbit has very sizable features that identify him clearly as male, they're in everyone's view when he's hopping along... What I'm saying is, how hard is it to tell?","human_ref_B":"This is the most fascinating Reddit thread I\u2019ve read in awhile.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20832.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"x06uwn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My four yo male tabby died today. No idea what happened. He was seemingly healthy and had just been to the vet on Tuesday for shots and a yearly checkup. A few days after the vet checkup, he started sneezing and clearly had a cold. Sick, but not dangerous (we thought). Behavior was not changed. He was eating, sleeping, drinking, woke me up for morning treats and did the scratching on the stair on the way down.  Went walking with a friend this morning, came home and found him dead on the bathroom floor. Some mucus by his nose. No sign of trauma. No vomiting.   What in the world could have killed him? The emergency vet didn't give us any kind of an answer, other than to say these things happen. They asked if he had a heart murmur (no). They said perhaps cancer, but how in the world does a cat go from happy to mild cold to dead of cancer?  We're so heartbroken. He was a very good boy.","c_root_id_A":"im7rtcl","c_root_id_B":"im724iz","created_at_utc_A":1661745214,"created_at_utc_B":1661732413,"score_A":31,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Even if no heart murmur had been noticed on previous exams, cats can still have HCM which is known as a \"silent killer\" because much of the time there's no indications of problems until they literally drop dead.   I am so sorry this happened, I know the grief of this kind of loss, and I wish you weren't going through it.","human_ref_B":"Heartbroken for you.  Have you considered a necropsy?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12801.0,"score_ratio":1.4090909091}
{"post_id":"ejlgtt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can my cat be grieving? How do I help him? I hope this isn't silly and I'm able to maybe get an answer... Sorry if this isn't the right place.  Species: cat  Age: almost 12 Sex: neutered male Breed: mackerel Tabby  Body weight: 7.5kg History: nothing so far, thankfully Clinical Signs: seems depressed, see information below  Duration: since January 1st Location: Ontario Canada  My 2 cats have been together for the past 10 years since I adopted the youngest one. They're inseparable.  On new year's eve, we unfortunately had to euthanize the younger one who developed fast progressing, aggressive cancer.  Now, my oldest cat seems incredibly depressed since she hasn't come home from her vet appointment. He sleeps in her spot, follows us around everywhere while meowing & just seems like he's not himself. Should we completely cleanse the house of the other cat or is he grieving? Should we put her cat crate out in the house for him to smell and possibly sleep in?  I don't want my big old man to die of a broken heart.  Thank you so much in advance.","c_root_id_A":"fcyx2pe","c_root_id_B":"fcza6do","created_at_utc_A":1578088976,"created_at_utc_B":1578096791,"score_A":57,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but animals do grieve. I've always been told that it is helpful to bring the deceased pet back into the house after the vet appointment to show the living pet that they are gone. It is supposed to help them process why the other isn't there.","human_ref_B":"Cat-lady here, not a vet.  Yes, they grieve, but unless your cat has seen the body of his companion (which helps with closure), he doesn't yet know she's not coming back. So he's missing her and also picking up on the sad emotional signals from the people in the house. The meowing is him calling for her, an example of searching behaviour.   I wouldn't advise moving or changing anything in your home for the time being. Her crate is unlikely to bring him comfort and may even add to his confusion.   Give him extra attention, soothing touches and some light games to help distract him and use up some of his anxious energy. Just sitting quietly near him whilst he sleeps in the same room as you will help to comfort him.  A once daily gentle all-over brushing can help soothe him too. If his appetite is depressed, try hand feeding him his favourite food whilst softly stroking his shoulder blades. If he goes off his food altogether, please consult a vet as this can have rapidly serious consequences.  As time passes and her scent fades he will begin to adjust to life without her, but it may be several weeks or even a couple of months before you notice his mood improve.   If you feel that he would be happier with another companion, you might eventually consider adopting another older cat to keep him company, however you will need to think about this very carefully as the introduction of a new cat can be very stressful for an older one and there's no guarantee they'll get along, it all depends on the personalities involved.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7815.0,"score_ratio":1.1228070175}
{"post_id":"ejlgtt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can my cat be grieving? How do I help him? I hope this isn't silly and I'm able to maybe get an answer... Sorry if this isn't the right place.  Species: cat  Age: almost 12 Sex: neutered male Breed: mackerel Tabby  Body weight: 7.5kg History: nothing so far, thankfully Clinical Signs: seems depressed, see information below  Duration: since January 1st Location: Ontario Canada  My 2 cats have been together for the past 10 years since I adopted the youngest one. They're inseparable.  On new year's eve, we unfortunately had to euthanize the younger one who developed fast progressing, aggressive cancer.  Now, my oldest cat seems incredibly depressed since she hasn't come home from her vet appointment. He sleeps in her spot, follows us around everywhere while meowing & just seems like he's not himself. Should we completely cleanse the house of the other cat or is he grieving? Should we put her cat crate out in the house for him to smell and possibly sleep in?  I don't want my big old man to die of a broken heart.  Thank you so much in advance.","c_root_id_A":"fcza6do","c_root_id_B":"fcyvz3n","created_at_utc_A":1578096791,"created_at_utc_B":1578088279,"score_A":64,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Cat-lady here, not a vet.  Yes, they grieve, but unless your cat has seen the body of his companion (which helps with closure), he doesn't yet know she's not coming back. So he's missing her and also picking up on the sad emotional signals from the people in the house. The meowing is him calling for her, an example of searching behaviour.   I wouldn't advise moving or changing anything in your home for the time being. Her crate is unlikely to bring him comfort and may even add to his confusion.   Give him extra attention, soothing touches and some light games to help distract him and use up some of his anxious energy. Just sitting quietly near him whilst he sleeps in the same room as you will help to comfort him.  A once daily gentle all-over brushing can help soothe him too. If his appetite is depressed, try hand feeding him his favourite food whilst softly stroking his shoulder blades. If he goes off his food altogether, please consult a vet as this can have rapidly serious consequences.  As time passes and her scent fades he will begin to adjust to life without her, but it may be several weeks or even a couple of months before you notice his mood improve.   If you feel that he would be happier with another companion, you might eventually consider adopting another older cat to keep him company, however you will need to think about this very carefully as the introduction of a new cat can be very stressful for an older one and there's no guarantee they'll get along, it all depends on the personalities involved.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but animals do grieve over losing another animal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8512.0,"score_ratio":2.7826086957}
{"post_id":"ejlgtt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can my cat be grieving? How do I help him? I hope this isn't silly and I'm able to maybe get an answer... Sorry if this isn't the right place.  Species: cat  Age: almost 12 Sex: neutered male Breed: mackerel Tabby  Body weight: 7.5kg History: nothing so far, thankfully Clinical Signs: seems depressed, see information below  Duration: since January 1st Location: Ontario Canada  My 2 cats have been together for the past 10 years since I adopted the youngest one. They're inseparable.  On new year's eve, we unfortunately had to euthanize the younger one who developed fast progressing, aggressive cancer.  Now, my oldest cat seems incredibly depressed since she hasn't come home from her vet appointment. He sleeps in her spot, follows us around everywhere while meowing & just seems like he's not himself. Should we completely cleanse the house of the other cat or is he grieving? Should we put her cat crate out in the house for him to smell and possibly sleep in?  I don't want my big old man to die of a broken heart.  Thank you so much in advance.","c_root_id_A":"fcyzghf","c_root_id_B":"fcza6do","created_at_utc_A":1578090509,"created_at_utc_B":1578096791,"score_A":22,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"This hit hard :(   There should be some posts on AskVet and CatAdvice about helping a cat with grief. I\u2019ve seen some very helpful comments about it","human_ref_B":"Cat-lady here, not a vet.  Yes, they grieve, but unless your cat has seen the body of his companion (which helps with closure), he doesn't yet know she's not coming back. So he's missing her and also picking up on the sad emotional signals from the people in the house. The meowing is him calling for her, an example of searching behaviour.   I wouldn't advise moving or changing anything in your home for the time being. Her crate is unlikely to bring him comfort and may even add to his confusion.   Give him extra attention, soothing touches and some light games to help distract him and use up some of his anxious energy. Just sitting quietly near him whilst he sleeps in the same room as you will help to comfort him.  A once daily gentle all-over brushing can help soothe him too. If his appetite is depressed, try hand feeding him his favourite food whilst softly stroking his shoulder blades. If he goes off his food altogether, please consult a vet as this can have rapidly serious consequences.  As time passes and her scent fades he will begin to adjust to life without her, but it may be several weeks or even a couple of months before you notice his mood improve.   If you feel that he would be happier with another companion, you might eventually consider adopting another older cat to keep him company, however you will need to think about this very carefully as the introduction of a new cat can be very stressful for an older one and there's no guarantee they'll get along, it all depends on the personalities involved.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6282.0,"score_ratio":2.9090909091}
{"post_id":"ejlgtt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can my cat be grieving? How do I help him? I hope this isn't silly and I'm able to maybe get an answer... Sorry if this isn't the right place.  Species: cat  Age: almost 12 Sex: neutered male Breed: mackerel Tabby  Body weight: 7.5kg History: nothing so far, thankfully Clinical Signs: seems depressed, see information below  Duration: since January 1st Location: Ontario Canada  My 2 cats have been together for the past 10 years since I adopted the youngest one. They're inseparable.  On new year's eve, we unfortunately had to euthanize the younger one who developed fast progressing, aggressive cancer.  Now, my oldest cat seems incredibly depressed since she hasn't come home from her vet appointment. He sleeps in her spot, follows us around everywhere while meowing & just seems like he's not himself. Should we completely cleanse the house of the other cat or is he grieving? Should we put her cat crate out in the house for him to smell and possibly sleep in?  I don't want my big old man to die of a broken heart.  Thank you so much in advance.","c_root_id_A":"fcz7f5p","c_root_id_B":"fcza6do","created_at_utc_A":1578095188,"created_at_utc_B":1578096791,"score_A":12,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Is he otherwise eating\/drinking\/eliminating normally?","human_ref_B":"Cat-lady here, not a vet.  Yes, they grieve, but unless your cat has seen the body of his companion (which helps with closure), he doesn't yet know she's not coming back. So he's missing her and also picking up on the sad emotional signals from the people in the house. The meowing is him calling for her, an example of searching behaviour.   I wouldn't advise moving or changing anything in your home for the time being. Her crate is unlikely to bring him comfort and may even add to his confusion.   Give him extra attention, soothing touches and some light games to help distract him and use up some of his anxious energy. Just sitting quietly near him whilst he sleeps in the same room as you will help to comfort him.  A once daily gentle all-over brushing can help soothe him too. If his appetite is depressed, try hand feeding him his favourite food whilst softly stroking his shoulder blades. If he goes off his food altogether, please consult a vet as this can have rapidly serious consequences.  As time passes and her scent fades he will begin to adjust to life without her, but it may be several weeks or even a couple of months before you notice his mood improve.   If you feel that he would be happier with another companion, you might eventually consider adopting another older cat to keep him company, however you will need to think about this very carefully as the introduction of a new cat can be very stressful for an older one and there's no guarantee they'll get along, it all depends on the personalities involved.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1603.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ejlgtt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can my cat be grieving? How do I help him? I hope this isn't silly and I'm able to maybe get an answer... Sorry if this isn't the right place.  Species: cat  Age: almost 12 Sex: neutered male Breed: mackerel Tabby  Body weight: 7.5kg History: nothing so far, thankfully Clinical Signs: seems depressed, see information below  Duration: since January 1st Location: Ontario Canada  My 2 cats have been together for the past 10 years since I adopted the youngest one. They're inseparable.  On new year's eve, we unfortunately had to euthanize the younger one who developed fast progressing, aggressive cancer.  Now, my oldest cat seems incredibly depressed since she hasn't come home from her vet appointment. He sleeps in her spot, follows us around everywhere while meowing & just seems like he's not himself. Should we completely cleanse the house of the other cat or is he grieving? Should we put her cat crate out in the house for him to smell and possibly sleep in?  I don't want my big old man to die of a broken heart.  Thank you so much in advance.","c_root_id_A":"fcyx2pe","c_root_id_B":"fcyvz3n","created_at_utc_A":1578088976,"created_at_utc_B":1578088279,"score_A":57,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but animals do grieve. I've always been told that it is helpful to bring the deceased pet back into the house after the vet appointment to show the living pet that they are gone. It is supposed to help them process why the other isn't there.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but animals do grieve over losing another animal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":697.0,"score_ratio":2.4782608696}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxa34w","c_root_id_B":"ecxbv13","created_at_utc_A":1546231082,"created_at_utc_B":1546232655,"score_A":19,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"I think this is a good thing, mostly. The part I am concerned about is a person\/family seeing a dog in a pet shop and falling in love with it even if it's not a good match for them. Shelter dogs often have an unknown past that could cause problems in the future (ie bite history or health problems) whereas puppy mill dogs were all puppies and somewhat a clean slate for behavior.   But since no good breeder would have their puppies sold in a pet shop, I think shelter dogs are a better alternative to puppy mills.","human_ref_B":"There are purebed cat and dog rescues everywhere! There are so many pets given up fpr adoption that this new requirement wont stop the people who want a specific breed","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1573.0,"score_ratio":1.8947368421}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxawg2","c_root_id_B":"ecxbv13","created_at_utc_A":1546231802,"created_at_utc_B":1546232655,"score_A":17,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"It's a step in the right direction. First California, next, the world!","human_ref_B":"There are purebed cat and dog rescues everywhere! There are so many pets given up fpr adoption that this new requirement wont stop the people who want a specific breed","labels":0,"seconds_difference":853.0,"score_ratio":2.1176470588}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxlxwj","c_root_id_B":"ecxjbwm","created_at_utc_A":1546243278,"created_at_utc_B":1546240146,"score_A":16,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I support it and I am not usually for any restriction on the private ownership rights of animals but in this case there is so much suffering caused by retail pet trade.","human_ref_B":"Someone, somewhere, will find a way around this... But then, as these things go, the laws will eventually tighten and specify and it will become inefficient and unprofitable to bother trying to make a profit circumventing the rules. At least, that's how it works in my split pessimistic\/optimistic brain \ud83d\ude01","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3132.0,"score_ratio":1.7777777778}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxbwxx","c_root_id_B":"ecxlxwj","created_at_utc_A":1546232701,"created_at_utc_B":1546243278,"score_A":4,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"One positive step at a time.","human_ref_B":"I support it and I am not usually for any restriction on the private ownership rights of animals but in this case there is so much suffering caused by retail pet trade.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10577.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxjbwm","c_root_id_B":"ecxbwxx","created_at_utc_A":1546240146,"created_at_utc_B":1546232701,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Someone, somewhere, will find a way around this... But then, as these things go, the laws will eventually tighten and specify and it will become inefficient and unprofitable to bother trying to make a profit circumventing the rules. At least, that's how it works in my split pessimistic\/optimistic brain \ud83d\ude01","human_ref_B":"One positive step at a time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7445.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxbwxx","c_root_id_B":"ecy3iox","created_at_utc_A":1546232701,"created_at_utc_B":1546268188,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"One positive step at a time.","human_ref_B":"If only these laws extended to all the reptiles, birds, fish, small mammals, and crustaceans that are so constantly overbred\/overcollected and seriously abused in these stores. Commercial industries shouldnt have the right to market and sell pets, it's pretty inherently unethical. Good on California.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35487.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecy3iox","c_root_id_B":"ecxz3wb","created_at_utc_A":1546268188,"created_at_utc_B":1546263705,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If only these laws extended to all the reptiles, birds, fish, small mammals, and crustaceans that are so constantly overbred\/overcollected and seriously abused in these stores. Commercial industries shouldnt have the right to market and sell pets, it's pretty inherently unethical. Good on California.","human_ref_B":"I truly hopes this makes a positive difference. But I\u2019m afraid of this only strengthening the underground market even more.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4483.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecy3iox","c_root_id_B":"ecxy5sm","created_at_utc_A":1546268188,"created_at_utc_B":1546262675,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If only these laws extended to all the reptiles, birds, fish, small mammals, and crustaceans that are so constantly overbred\/overcollected and seriously abused in these stores. Commercial industries shouldnt have the right to market and sell pets, it's pretty inherently unethical. Good on California.","human_ref_B":"Right next to the fish inside tiny cups... I guess it's a step though","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5513.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ab2vz8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Thoughts on California will be first state to require Pet Stores to Sell Only Rescue Animals? https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/california-become-first-state-require-212753450.html  A lot of people don't think this will accomplish much do to the pet stores not being as important?","c_root_id_A":"ecxz3wb","c_root_id_B":"ecxy5sm","created_at_utc_A":1546263705,"created_at_utc_B":1546262675,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I truly hopes this makes a positive difference. But I\u2019m afraid of this only strengthening the underground market even more.","human_ref_B":"Right next to the fish inside tiny cups... I guess it's a step though","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1030.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"iih9pi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog has glaucoma and needs his eyes removed. He's adopted, but they refuse to give vet records. What do I do? I'm keeping him, regardless. The previous owner had said they'd been to the vet multiple times and refused to give me records. I've only had him a month.   He's only a year old, so I think he could learn to compensate for blindness. I'm really just wondering if they screwed me and, more importantly, if there's any way I could make his life comfortable","c_root_id_A":"g36y8m5","c_root_id_B":"g36tpy5","created_at_utc_A":1598660436,"created_at_utc_B":1598657845,"score_A":155,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Ophthalmology vet tech here. If he is not already completely blind, there are treatments for glaucoma that can maintain sight, sometimes for a long time. In the US, you can go to www.acvo.org to find an ophthalmologist. I believe there are links on their site for outside the US also. You should not need previous records to see an ophthalmologist, but some require a referral from a general practice veterinarian.   Pain that results from glaucoma should be considered urgent.   A good site for support for owners of blind dogs is blinddogsupport.com","human_ref_B":"Where do you live? That will affect the course of action regarding obtaining veterinary records.  A consult with a boarded opthomologist would be a good idea to confirm the treatment options and if a bilateral enucleation is the beat course of treatment.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2591.0,"score_ratio":7.380952381}
{"post_id":"iih9pi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog has glaucoma and needs his eyes removed. He's adopted, but they refuse to give vet records. What do I do? I'm keeping him, regardless. The previous owner had said they'd been to the vet multiple times and refused to give me records. I've only had him a month.   He's only a year old, so I think he could learn to compensate for blindness. I'm really just wondering if they screwed me and, more importantly, if there's any way I could make his life comfortable","c_root_id_A":"g36y8m5","c_root_id_B":"g36umyu","created_at_utc_A":1598660436,"created_at_utc_B":1598658358,"score_A":155,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Ophthalmology vet tech here. If he is not already completely blind, there are treatments for glaucoma that can maintain sight, sometimes for a long time. In the US, you can go to www.acvo.org to find an ophthalmologist. I believe there are links on their site for outside the US also. You should not need previous records to see an ophthalmologist, but some require a referral from a general practice veterinarian.   Pain that results from glaucoma should be considered urgent.   A good site for support for owners of blind dogs is blinddogsupport.com","human_ref_B":"Unless this was specifically part of the sales contract, the previous owner is under no legal obligation to give you these records. You could try identifying the vet they went to and obtaining the information from them if they're open to that, but there isn't any way you can force the previous owner to share it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2078.0,"score_ratio":11.9230769231}
{"post_id":"iih9pi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog has glaucoma and needs his eyes removed. He's adopted, but they refuse to give vet records. What do I do? I'm keeping him, regardless. The previous owner had said they'd been to the vet multiple times and refused to give me records. I've only had him a month.   He's only a year old, so I think he could learn to compensate for blindness. I'm really just wondering if they screwed me and, more importantly, if there's any way I could make his life comfortable","c_root_id_A":"g36y8m5","c_root_id_B":"g36t0zx","created_at_utc_A":1598660436,"created_at_utc_B":1598657454,"score_A":155,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Ophthalmology vet tech here. If he is not already completely blind, there are treatments for glaucoma that can maintain sight, sometimes for a long time. In the US, you can go to www.acvo.org to find an ophthalmologist. I believe there are links on their site for outside the US also. You should not need previous records to see an ophthalmologist, but some require a referral from a general practice veterinarian.   Pain that results from glaucoma should be considered urgent.   A good site for support for owners of blind dogs is blinddogsupport.com","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re looking to obtain vet records and they\u2019re refusing to give them to you, you can always try r\/legaladvice. However, if your vet if recommending he lose his sight for his health, then listening to them may be the best thing for the boy. If a blind pup isn\u2019t something you can handle, mentally or physically, please contact a local humane society to try and rehome him for you. They\u2019ll be able to look more into a persons background and get him to someone who is able to properly care for a blind dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2982.0,"score_ratio":22.1428571429}
{"post_id":"iih9pi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog has glaucoma and needs his eyes removed. He's adopted, but they refuse to give vet records. What do I do? I'm keeping him, regardless. The previous owner had said they'd been to the vet multiple times and refused to give me records. I've only had him a month.   He's only a year old, so I think he could learn to compensate for blindness. I'm really just wondering if they screwed me and, more importantly, if there's any way I could make his life comfortable","c_root_id_A":"g36tpy5","c_root_id_B":"g36t0zx","created_at_utc_A":1598657845,"created_at_utc_B":1598657454,"score_A":21,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Where do you live? That will affect the course of action regarding obtaining veterinary records.  A consult with a boarded opthomologist would be a good idea to confirm the treatment options and if a bilateral enucleation is the beat course of treatment.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re looking to obtain vet records and they\u2019re refusing to give them to you, you can always try r\/legaladvice. However, if your vet if recommending he lose his sight for his health, then listening to them may be the best thing for the boy. If a blind pup isn\u2019t something you can handle, mentally or physically, please contact a local humane society to try and rehome him for you. They\u2019ll be able to look more into a persons background and get him to someone who is able to properly care for a blind dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":391.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"iih9pi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog has glaucoma and needs his eyes removed. He's adopted, but they refuse to give vet records. What do I do? I'm keeping him, regardless. The previous owner had said they'd been to the vet multiple times and refused to give me records. I've only had him a month.   He's only a year old, so I think he could learn to compensate for blindness. I'm really just wondering if they screwed me and, more importantly, if there's any way I could make his life comfortable","c_root_id_A":"g36umyu","c_root_id_B":"g36t0zx","created_at_utc_A":1598658358,"created_at_utc_B":1598657454,"score_A":13,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Unless this was specifically part of the sales contract, the previous owner is under no legal obligation to give you these records. You could try identifying the vet they went to and obtaining the information from them if they're open to that, but there isn't any way you can force the previous owner to share it.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re looking to obtain vet records and they\u2019re refusing to give them to you, you can always try r\/legaladvice. However, if your vet if recommending he lose his sight for his health, then listening to them may be the best thing for the boy. If a blind pup isn\u2019t something you can handle, mentally or physically, please contact a local humane society to try and rehome him for you. They\u2019ll be able to look more into a persons background and get him to someone who is able to properly care for a blind dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":904.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs3u4uz","c_root_id_B":"fs41z87","created_at_utc_A":1590685009,"created_at_utc_B":1590688654,"score_A":19,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"They probably won't, especially considering that is sounds like he *is* at the end. Your vet \"knows best\" in the medical sense but you know your dog. If you think it's time, make the appointment and do whatever else you need to do before that time.","human_ref_B":"Veterinarians can refuse euthanasias if the pet is in good health but I would be extremely surprised if anyone turned you away, especially with a diagnosis like that one.  Im sorry that you may be losing your friend soon, may you both carry each other in your hearts for the rest of eternity\u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3645.0,"score_ratio":1.0526315789}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs3ycau","c_root_id_B":"fs41z87","created_at_utc_A":1590686968,"created_at_utc_B":1590688654,"score_A":11,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"The vets I work for would not refuse in this situation. If your dog is having more bad days than good, then we all support your decision 100%.","human_ref_B":"Veterinarians can refuse euthanasias if the pet is in good health but I would be extremely surprised if anyone turned you away, especially with a diagnosis like that one.  Im sorry that you may be losing your friend soon, may you both carry each other in your hearts for the rest of eternity\u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1686.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs4fjzs","c_root_id_B":"fs3ycau","created_at_utc_A":1590695095,"created_at_utc_B":1590686968,"score_A":17,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.","human_ref_B":"The vets I work for would not refuse in this situation. If your dog is having more bad days than good, then we all support your decision 100%.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8127.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs48gxw","c_root_id_B":"fs4fjzs","created_at_utc_A":1590691726,"created_at_utc_B":1590695095,"score_A":9,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your impending loss. You're doing the right thing, it seems. I wish you peace as you grieve \u2764","human_ref_B":"Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3369.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs45mvl","c_root_id_B":"fs4fjzs","created_at_utc_A":1590690389,"created_at_utc_B":1590695095,"score_A":6,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"As everyone else has said, I doubt any vet would refuse in this situation. All vets know that animals have good days and bad days when they're sick and at the end of their lives.  It's a difficult decision but as the person who spends the most time with their dog, it is your decision to make. I'm sorry you are going through this - I've been there and it's very difficult.","human_ref_B":"Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4706.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"gs8av1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle\/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?","c_root_id_A":"fs45mvl","c_root_id_B":"fs48gxw","created_at_utc_A":1590690389,"created_at_utc_B":1590691726,"score_A":6,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"As everyone else has said, I doubt any vet would refuse in this situation. All vets know that animals have good days and bad days when they're sick and at the end of their lives.  It's a difficult decision but as the person who spends the most time with their dog, it is your decision to make. I'm sorry you are going through this - I've been there and it's very difficult.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for your impending loss. You're doing the right thing, it seems. I wish you peace as you grieve \u2764","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1337.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"k8lpuf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What are signs to let your dog go? My 5yr old Bernese was diagnosed with stage 3 lymphoma last week. Vet said he has 1-2 months left without chemo. We opted to make the rest of his life as happy as possible until it was time.       I'm stuck now not knowing if my boy is in pain and when the best time to let him go is. I don't want him to suffer at all but I don't want to let him go too early if he still has good days left. He is still eating\/drinking water and has energy and can still go on walks. But at night when he is sleeping on his side he breathes very rapidly until he moves around and eventually gets onto his stomach. Maybe because of the very large swollen nodes on his neck. I also find him laying down in dark corners where he has never layed before. Lastly his gums are starting to lose color and become more pale. Other than that he is normal.       If anyone has had similar experiences and can share I'd appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"geyvqwa","c_root_id_B":"geyvgpf","created_at_utc_A":1607366326,"created_at_utc_B":1607366214,"score_A":165,"score_B":103,"human_ref_A":"General rule being: Their last day shouldn\u2019t be their worst, Don\u2019t wait until it\u2019s really bad... Maybe print a quality of life scale, Record your response daily And compare. Dogs hide pain well and it is a difficult decision  I am sorry","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but one of the best methods I\u2019ve ever seen is the HHHHHMM Scale (Quality of Life Scale) for quantifying your pet\u2019s condition. It takes into account the outward signs he\u2019s giving you, the small behaviors you notice, and asks you to rate different items on a scale.   My heart goes out to you in this difficult time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":112.0,"score_ratio":1.6019417476}
{"post_id":"k8lpuf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What are signs to let your dog go? My 5yr old Bernese was diagnosed with stage 3 lymphoma last week. Vet said he has 1-2 months left without chemo. We opted to make the rest of his life as happy as possible until it was time.       I'm stuck now not knowing if my boy is in pain and when the best time to let him go is. I don't want him to suffer at all but I don't want to let him go too early if he still has good days left. He is still eating\/drinking water and has energy and can still go on walks. But at night when he is sleeping on his side he breathes very rapidly until he moves around and eventually gets onto his stomach. Maybe because of the very large swollen nodes on his neck. I also find him laying down in dark corners where he has never layed before. Lastly his gums are starting to lose color and become more pale. Other than that he is normal.       If anyone has had similar experiences and can share I'd appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"geyvqwa","c_root_id_B":"geyszp3","created_at_utc_A":1607366326,"created_at_utc_B":1607365254,"score_A":165,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"General rule being: Their last day shouldn\u2019t be their worst, Don\u2019t wait until it\u2019s really bad... Maybe print a quality of life scale, Record your response daily And compare. Dogs hide pain well and it is a difficult decision  I am sorry","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry to hear about your dog. I imagine it must be quite a difficult time for you. Your veterinarian is a great resource in this case. You should talk to them about what you\u2019ve seen, and if they determine your dog is in pain, they may be able to provide options for pain relief.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1072.0,"score_ratio":5.6896551724}
{"post_id":"k8lpuf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What are signs to let your dog go? My 5yr old Bernese was diagnosed with stage 3 lymphoma last week. Vet said he has 1-2 months left without chemo. We opted to make the rest of his life as happy as possible until it was time.       I'm stuck now not knowing if my boy is in pain and when the best time to let him go is. I don't want him to suffer at all but I don't want to let him go too early if he still has good days left. He is still eating\/drinking water and has energy and can still go on walks. But at night when he is sleeping on his side he breathes very rapidly until he moves around and eventually gets onto his stomach. Maybe because of the very large swollen nodes on his neck. I also find him laying down in dark corners where he has never layed before. Lastly his gums are starting to lose color and become more pale. Other than that he is normal.       If anyone has had similar experiences and can share I'd appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"geyszp3","c_root_id_B":"geyvgpf","created_at_utc_A":1607365254,"created_at_utc_B":1607366214,"score_A":29,"score_B":103,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry to hear about your dog. I imagine it must be quite a difficult time for you. Your veterinarian is a great resource in this case. You should talk to them about what you\u2019ve seen, and if they determine your dog is in pain, they may be able to provide options for pain relief.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but one of the best methods I\u2019ve ever seen is the HHHHHMM Scale (Quality of Life Scale) for quantifying your pet\u2019s condition. It takes into account the outward signs he\u2019s giving you, the small behaviors you notice, and asks you to rate different items on a scale.   My heart goes out to you in this difficult time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":960.0,"score_ratio":3.5517241379}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fr926hk","c_root_id_B":"fr95heq","created_at_utc_A":1589990389,"created_at_utc_B":1589991997,"score_A":16,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Heart worm is on the rise and it will kill your pet without preventives and or treatment","human_ref_B":"I'm a vet assistant, but tell people using essential oils that they can make dogs and cats very sick or even be fatal. Few essential oils are completely safe to use for scent purposes around pets, and I don't think any are fine to slather on them IIRC.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1608.0,"score_ratio":1.4375}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fr9cozb","c_root_id_B":"fr97u09","created_at_utc_A":1589995399,"created_at_utc_B":1589993118,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Tech who's done a lot of product education. not much to add but once a client told me she was using an amber necklace (like the woo woo teething ones for babies I guess?) as parasite prevention. Apparently the necklace cured her dogs heartworm, and her old vet was shocked. Not sure how he came up hw+ in the first place though given the amazingness of amber necklaces","human_ref_B":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2281.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fra9eue","c_root_id_B":"fr97u09","created_at_utc_A":1590014177,"created_at_utc_B":1589993118,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Presenting them with facts and numbers to disprove them won't be effective because they aren't operating from a rational perspective - besides, that's just setting up an adversarial relationship of right vs wrong. Unless they are specifically asking for studies on safety and efficacy, I wouldn't bring up numbers. They are making an emotional decision out of fear and I think that's what you should be addressing before getting to the meat of your argument:  \"It sounds like you're concerned this product will harm Fluffy. I know you want to keep her safe and make the best health decisions for her. I am recommending this product because it will help protect her from fleas and it is generally a very safe product to use.\"  You've 1) indicated you heard the client's concern that the product is unsafe, 2) made an empathy statement that they want the best for their pet, 3) made your recommendation without using 'but' which would negate 1 & 2, 4) stated the benefit to the product, and 5) gently countered the client's misconception by saying the product is safe.  I think you'd have more luck with this route than outlining a rational risk\/benefit analysis of the medication.","human_ref_B":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21059.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fr97u09","c_root_id_B":"frapi9d","created_at_utc_A":1589993118,"created_at_utc_B":1590023716,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","human_ref_B":"I say it is toxic. It\u2019s a pesticide\/parasitic. Fleas are pests. The medicine works systemically.  Do you want to wake up with fleas biting your ankles at 1am?  Price of progress.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":30598.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fr97u09","c_root_id_B":"fraup4i","created_at_utc_A":1589993118,"created_at_utc_B":1590026642,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","human_ref_B":"There are two types of people that present like this.    The first group are honestly concerned with doing what is best for their pet.  The second group doesn\u2019t want to spend money.    When you discuss the negative outcomes of NOT USING prevention vs. possible side effects of preventative medicine AND you discuss the pros and cons of all the different choices we have to safely do that for their pets- the people in the first group very quickly agree to use preventative.  The second group never budge.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33524.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"frb4uqs","c_root_id_B":"fr97u09","created_at_utc_A":1590032817,"created_at_utc_B":1589993118,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Tell them that you brush your teeth with commercial toothpaste twice a day.  As long as you follow the instructions, you get substantial benefits without exposure risk to the poison (Flouride) in toothpaste.  If they respond that they don't use commercial toothpaste, that is an excellent litmus test for you to understand that this is a person that won't change their minds with a few minutes of counseling, no matter the expertise.","human_ref_B":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39699.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"fr97u09","c_root_id_B":"frbobvq","created_at_utc_A":1589993118,"created_at_utc_B":1590049399,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm wondering this as well. I used flea treatment on my three cats while living in the South because the flea infestation is year round. Every time I applied it, they would cower the second they saw the gloves come on and after it was applied, they would shrink and run away and hide for the next hour and not want to be pet or interacted with. It's very atypical behavior since my cats aren't normally anxious or nervous. It made me feel so awful that they feared their medication. What are your thoughts on this reaction?","human_ref_B":"I explain that dogs are mammals and ticks and fleas are insects or whatever and that those are 2 different things.  Nevermind the sheer size difference their physiology especially neurophysiology is completely different.  These drugs (often) target the nervous systems or chitin production of the parasite, so for a dog that doesn't have an insectoid nervous system or chitin there really is very little risk  Edit spelling","labels":0,"seconds_difference":56281.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"gnbf3w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Clients that refuse Flea and Worm treatment because it\u2019s \u201ctoxic\u201d. What do you say ? Hi all,  We\u2019ve had quite few clients refuse flea and worm treatments because they believe the products are \u201ctoxic\u201d and they should not be giving \u201cdangerous\u201d chemicals to their pets. Their view is that if the product is strong enough to kill a tick then it\u2019s strong enough to do damage to their dog.  A lot of them have seen online that a combination of essential oils will be just as effective. Which I am sure isn\u2019t true !   We use Bravecto and Millbemax.   Have you come across this with clients? What do you tell them ?  Are there studies that show this isn\u2019t the case ?  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"frbobvq","c_root_id_B":"frbhd1a","created_at_utc_A":1590049399,"created_at_utc_B":1590042701,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I explain that dogs are mammals and ticks and fleas are insects or whatever and that those are 2 different things.  Nevermind the sheer size difference their physiology especially neurophysiology is completely different.  These drugs (often) target the nervous systems or chitin production of the parasite, so for a dog that doesn't have an insectoid nervous system or chitin there really is very little risk  Edit spelling","human_ref_B":"The National Pesticide Information Center run through Oregon State is a great resource for pesticide safety information. If you check their website or call, they likely have a good handout or other resource you could use.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6698.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikah2gg","c_root_id_B":"ikb2h9h","created_at_utc_A":1660505617,"created_at_utc_B":1660514650,"score_A":69,"score_B":313,"human_ref_A":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","human_ref_B":"Neuter him. Males who are not neutered definitely are more likely to be aggressive. Also even though you might think it was for no reason, there was probably a trigger that you missed. Something upset him.   You can get claw caps applied. Then you can take more time to learn about cat behavior. If you want to keep him, educate yourself. No educated, responsible pet owner chooses not to fix their pets. Unless they are a breeder.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9033.0,"score_ratio":4.5362318841}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikb3pmx","c_root_id_B":"ikah2gg","created_at_utc_A":1660515192,"created_at_utc_B":1660505617,"score_A":268,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"No judgement, but is there a particular reason why you chose to keep him intact for so long? I'm no vet but I can't imagine that him peeing\/marking throughout the house as well as his recent behavior aren't somehow related to the fact that he isn't neutered.   Cats don't really just freak out for no reason (despite the crappy stereotype of it), and it's highly likely that he got triggered by something; if I had to guess, I would say it's the roaming cats who can smell an intact male in the house.","human_ref_B":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9575.0,"score_ratio":3.884057971}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikbgel8","c_root_id_B":"ikb9z1b","created_at_utc_A":1660520935,"created_at_utc_B":1660517967,"score_A":241,"score_B":238,"human_ref_A":"so your un-neutered tomcat became aggressive cause he can smell \"enemy\" toms and a queen with kittens who is likely in season again, get him fixed he's sexually frustrated at can smell what he really wants aka the queen","human_ref_B":"He needs to be taken to the vet for a full physical. Cats can be very stoic if they are in pain and excellent at hiding symptoms of an illness or injury, and become suddenly aggressive seemingly out of nowhere because of it. Cats can also absolutely have depression and anxiety disorders that can trigger these sorts of attacks. I know your trust has obviously been shaken, but it\u2019s only fair to at least try to determine the cause before making final decisions on his fate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2968.0,"score_ratio":1.012605042}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikb9z1b","c_root_id_B":"ikah2gg","created_at_utc_A":1660517967,"created_at_utc_B":1660505617,"score_A":238,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"He needs to be taken to the vet for a full physical. Cats can be very stoic if they are in pain and excellent at hiding symptoms of an illness or injury, and become suddenly aggressive seemingly out of nowhere because of it. Cats can also absolutely have depression and anxiety disorders that can trigger these sorts of attacks. I know your trust has obviously been shaken, but it\u2019s only fair to at least try to determine the cause before making final decisions on his fate.","human_ref_B":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12350.0,"score_ratio":3.4492753623}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikbgel8","c_root_id_B":"ikah2gg","created_at_utc_A":1660520935,"created_at_utc_B":1660505617,"score_A":241,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"so your un-neutered tomcat became aggressive cause he can smell \"enemy\" toms and a queen with kittens who is likely in season again, get him fixed he's sexually frustrated at can smell what he really wants aka the queen","human_ref_B":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15318.0,"score_ratio":3.4927536232}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikbgel8","c_root_id_B":"ikbfet9","created_at_utc_A":1660520935,"created_at_utc_B":1660520475,"score_A":241,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"so your un-neutered tomcat became aggressive cause he can smell \"enemy\" toms and a queen with kittens who is likely in season again, get him fixed he's sexually frustrated at can smell what he really wants aka the queen","human_ref_B":"Neuter will definitely help. Why did you wait so longer to neuter him? A cats sense of smell is extremely strong. He can smell the other cats and it can be causing him to be territorial and also the urge to mate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":460.0,"score_ratio":4.3035714286}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikah2gg","c_root_id_B":"ikbnkcs","created_at_utc_A":1660505617,"created_at_utc_B":1660524341,"score_A":69,"score_B":81,"human_ref_A":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","human_ref_B":"Thanks for asking for help and being open to the suggestions! I appreciate that you admit not getting him fixed was a mistake. I hope you\u2019ll get him out of the shelter before Thursday, take him for an exam and surgery, and either bring him home with you or find another home for him (after he\u2019s recovered). You could likely ask for light sedatives or anxiety medication to help ease him back into the home given the situation outside. Please make sure he\u2019s kept safe and not put to sleep - it\u2019s not his fault. And do keep us informed!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18724.0,"score_ratio":1.1739130435}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikbnkcs","c_root_id_B":"ikbfet9","created_at_utc_A":1660524341,"created_at_utc_B":1660520475,"score_A":81,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for asking for help and being open to the suggestions! I appreciate that you admit not getting him fixed was a mistake. I hope you\u2019ll get him out of the shelter before Thursday, take him for an exam and surgery, and either bring him home with you or find another home for him (after he\u2019s recovered). You could likely ask for light sedatives or anxiety medication to help ease him back into the home given the situation outside. Please make sure he\u2019s kept safe and not put to sleep - it\u2019s not his fault. And do keep us informed!","human_ref_B":"Neuter will definitely help. Why did you wait so longer to neuter him? A cats sense of smell is extremely strong. He can smell the other cats and it can be causing him to be territorial and also the urge to mate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3866.0,"score_ratio":1.4464285714}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikah2gg","c_root_id_B":"ikc1gk0","created_at_utc_A":1660505617,"created_at_utc_B":1660530930,"score_A":69,"score_B":74,"human_ref_A":"While we can\u2019t 100% say, it is likely the abundance of feral cats was a trigger for him.   No one would blame you if you chose humane euthanasia. This cat can be dangerous and you will not be able to rehome him with this history.   That being said, if you\u2019re committed to him - I would neuter him and consult with your vet and a board certified veterinary behaviorist.","human_ref_B":"Neutered males are WAY less aggressive. I have four cats and I\u2019m a community cat caretaker. I\u2019ve seen the most aggressive males become the most loving personable cats after being neutered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25313.0,"score_ratio":1.0724637681}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikc1gk0","c_root_id_B":"ikbfet9","created_at_utc_A":1660530930,"created_at_utc_B":1660520475,"score_A":74,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Neutered males are WAY less aggressive. I have four cats and I\u2019m a community cat caretaker. I\u2019ve seen the most aggressive males become the most loving personable cats after being neutered.","human_ref_B":"Neuter will definitely help. Why did you wait so longer to neuter him? A cats sense of smell is extremely strong. He can smell the other cats and it can be causing him to be territorial and also the urge to mate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10455.0,"score_ratio":1.3214285714}
{"post_id":"woddrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"I need help and I'm running on limited time, I have til Thursday. Our cat attacked us and is in animal control shelter at the moment.    * Species: Cat * Age: 4 (July.4,2018) * Sex\/Neuter status: Male \/ Not Neutered * Breed: Orange Tabby * Body weight: 10 Lbs. * History: Unsure of what is being asked, sorry * Clinical signs: N\/A * Duration:  N\/A * Your general location: NJ * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: Photo's will be provided  So let me make this as easy a possible. On Monday 8\/8 our cat, Nami, attacked us unprovoked. When I say attacked it wasn't just a small thing. He bit us several times and clung to our legs with his claws embedded in our skin. We had to go to the hospital it was bad enough and the police called animal control and they took him from us. He's under 10 day rabies watch and we can get him on Thursday 8\/18.   &#x200B;  Here lies the issue. The attack was unprovoked and so traumatic that we are way to scared to have him back in this house in his current state. To us, nothing caused it and we had no signs or indication anything was about to happen. Nothing was out of the ordinary. I was walking into the computer room with my dog and my girlfriend went to wash her face. She shut the bathroom door and I got attacked. I screamed pulled him off me after a few bites and shut myself in the computer room. She came out to see what was happening and he lunged at her and attacked her. I came back out and got him off of her after and locked him into the bathroom to figure out what just happened. That was the incident. Pictures will be included at the bottom of this post.  &#x200B;  1. I know we need to neuter him, but will that even help?   We moved her 2 years ago and he started peeing everywhere, in hindsight we think there may have been more to it. We thought he did it due to a new place, unsure, you know that kind of thing. BUT we discovered the community we live in has MANY strays lurking outside. Most are clipped ears if that matters, but again he isn't neutered. Are they a threat to him and was he marking his territory back then?  And no he's never been outside the house.  &#x200B;  2.  Theres a mom cat outside un-neutered as she has kittens with her, could this have escalated his aggression\/sexual urge\/harmones or anything?  &#x200B;  She's not far from this house at all, lets say 10 ft or so away. Can he smell her or anything and could that have...triggered him? He's been constantly trying to get into the windows to look outside more then usual and maybe its to see her?  &#x200B;     3.   Will blocking his view from outside help?   &#x200B;  We have window film, sort of like a doctor's office so it blurs vision and you can't see what's on the other side.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  I'm all over the place I'm sorry but please ask anything you have and help with whatever you can.  &#x200B;  We are to afraid to have him back in this house in his current state as we are scared and traumatized. But it's that or the shelter will put him to sleep Thursday if we don't get him back. I'm trying so so hard to save him, please help me.   &#x200B;  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/YqjGatzLink to cat bites and scratches","c_root_id_A":"ikc1gk0","c_root_id_B":"ikboitr","created_at_utc_A":1660530930,"created_at_utc_B":1660524790,"score_A":74,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Neutered males are WAY less aggressive. I have four cats and I\u2019m a community cat caretaker. I\u2019ve seen the most aggressive males become the most loving personable cats after being neutered.","human_ref_B":"Since you are in NJ, I recommend calling Mount Laurel Animal Hospital.  They have a great animal behaviorist there.  She is the reason we are able to get out cat attacks under control.  Same style brutal attacks here.  She might work out of other offices as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6140.0,"score_ratio":1.6444444444}
{"post_id":"r1gaiu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Just wanted to say thank you for giving me the courage to neuter my cat. I posted a couple days ago about my dad is very against neutering my kitten and how I wanted to get him neutered asap. I got him neutered today thanks to your comments. He's recovering now. I'm still kinda nervous for when my dad finds out but I know I did the right thing. Thank you all for those who commented on my post \ud83d\udc95","c_root_id_A":"hlyh9hl","c_root_id_B":"hlyyx2m","created_at_utc_A":1637791995,"created_at_utc_B":1637799679,"score_A":18,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Good for you AND your lil buddy! \ud83d\udc97","human_ref_B":"Your dad may not even notice. Once the fur comes back in its hard to tell at a glance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7684.0,"score_ratio":2.9444444444}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0sha1c","c_root_id_B":"j0svn1k","created_at_utc_A":1671414975,"created_at_utc_B":1671422102,"score_A":144,"score_B":228,"human_ref_A":"The other poster hit on some important points. Another one is that grain free diets, especially those high in legumes, have been associated with higher instances of DCM (heart disease). There are many studies but this is the FDA advisory about it.   It\u2019s best to feed your dog a balanced diet that fits AAFCO standards, which this diet likely doesn\u2019t. The brands I generally recommend are hill\u2019s, ProPlan, and Royal Canin but that\u2019s because I know these diets are well formulated. That doesn\u2019t mean there aren\u2019t many other great diets out there, I just honestly don\u2019t have time to look into every diet on the market.","human_ref_B":"In general, vegan diets aren't recommended for dogs. While they generally do better than, say, cats or ferrets, they do not thrive on these diets. Grain free has also been linked to heart disease.   Do you know if your dog is LUA or HUA? The majority of purebred dalmatians are HUA, or have high levels of uric acid. This condition leads to the development of urinary stones, which can be extremely dangerous if they form a blockage. You'll need a diet that is low in purines to help control this. Examples of foods to avoid due to their higher purine content include organ meat, game meat such as venison or duck, some seafood such as herring, sardines, and mackerel, and some vegetables such as spinach, green peas, and legumes. Putting aside the food being vegan for a moment, for a dalmatian it's absolutely terrible due to soy beans and green peas being the first two ingredients. Root vegetables, rice, and eggs all have lower purines, and more digestible muscle meat such as chicken is recommended over red meats like beef or lamb.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7127.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0svn1k","c_root_id_B":"j0soqfm","created_at_utc_A":1671422102,"created_at_utc_B":1671418592,"score_A":228,"score_B":117,"human_ref_A":"In general, vegan diets aren't recommended for dogs. While they generally do better than, say, cats or ferrets, they do not thrive on these diets. Grain free has also been linked to heart disease.   Do you know if your dog is LUA or HUA? The majority of purebred dalmatians are HUA, or have high levels of uric acid. This condition leads to the development of urinary stones, which can be extremely dangerous if they form a blockage. You'll need a diet that is low in purines to help control this. Examples of foods to avoid due to their higher purine content include organ meat, game meat such as venison or duck, some seafood such as herring, sardines, and mackerel, and some vegetables such as spinach, green peas, and legumes. Putting aside the food being vegan for a moment, for a dalmatian it's absolutely terrible due to soy beans and green peas being the first two ingredients. Root vegetables, rice, and eggs all have lower purines, and more digestible muscle meat such as chicken is recommended over red meats like beef or lamb.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sure there\u2019s other eco choices to be made around the house before forcing an animal who has no responsibility for the problems of the environment to fight green house gases.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3510.0,"score_ratio":1.9487179487}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0scye4","c_root_id_B":"j0svn1k","created_at_utc_A":1671412920,"created_at_utc_B":1671422102,"score_A":84,"score_B":228,"human_ref_A":"This diet could definitely be very problematic if fed long term. At a bare minimum, any diet fed should adhere to AAFCO guidelines. Additionally, dalmatians are extremely prone to developing bladder stones and the mineral balance of their food needs to be closely regulated to prevent them. If she wants to investigate a plant based diet that will meet all of his nutritional needs, she should book a consult with a boarded veterinary nutritionist.","human_ref_B":"In general, vegan diets aren't recommended for dogs. While they generally do better than, say, cats or ferrets, they do not thrive on these diets. Grain free has also been linked to heart disease.   Do you know if your dog is LUA or HUA? The majority of purebred dalmatians are HUA, or have high levels of uric acid. This condition leads to the development of urinary stones, which can be extremely dangerous if they form a blockage. You'll need a diet that is low in purines to help control this. Examples of foods to avoid due to their higher purine content include organ meat, game meat such as venison or duck, some seafood such as herring, sardines, and mackerel, and some vegetables such as spinach, green peas, and legumes. Putting aside the food being vegan for a moment, for a dalmatian it's absolutely terrible due to soy beans and green peas being the first two ingredients. Root vegetables, rice, and eggs all have lower purines, and more digestible muscle meat such as chicken is recommended over red meats like beef or lamb.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9182.0,"score_ratio":2.7142857143}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0secw9","c_root_id_B":"j0svn1k","created_at_utc_A":1671413593,"created_at_utc_B":1671422102,"score_A":7,"score_B":228,"human_ref_A":"Click the faq section of this sub scroll down to the question about vegan diets It says that this could be seen as animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"In general, vegan diets aren't recommended for dogs. While they generally do better than, say, cats or ferrets, they do not thrive on these diets. Grain free has also been linked to heart disease.   Do you know if your dog is LUA or HUA? The majority of purebred dalmatians are HUA, or have high levels of uric acid. This condition leads to the development of urinary stones, which can be extremely dangerous if they form a blockage. You'll need a diet that is low in purines to help control this. Examples of foods to avoid due to their higher purine content include organ meat, game meat such as venison or duck, some seafood such as herring, sardines, and mackerel, and some vegetables such as spinach, green peas, and legumes. Putting aside the food being vegan for a moment, for a dalmatian it's absolutely terrible due to soy beans and green peas being the first two ingredients. Root vegetables, rice, and eggs all have lower purines, and more digestible muscle meat such as chicken is recommended over red meats like beef or lamb.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8509.0,"score_ratio":32.5714285714}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0scye4","c_root_id_B":"j0sha1c","created_at_utc_A":1671412920,"created_at_utc_B":1671414975,"score_A":84,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"This diet could definitely be very problematic if fed long term. At a bare minimum, any diet fed should adhere to AAFCO guidelines. Additionally, dalmatians are extremely prone to developing bladder stones and the mineral balance of their food needs to be closely regulated to prevent them. If she wants to investigate a plant based diet that will meet all of his nutritional needs, she should book a consult with a boarded veterinary nutritionist.","human_ref_B":"The other poster hit on some important points. Another one is that grain free diets, especially those high in legumes, have been associated with higher instances of DCM (heart disease). There are many studies but this is the FDA advisory about it.   It\u2019s best to feed your dog a balanced diet that fits AAFCO standards, which this diet likely doesn\u2019t. The brands I generally recommend are hill\u2019s, ProPlan, and Royal Canin but that\u2019s because I know these diets are well formulated. That doesn\u2019t mean there aren\u2019t many other great diets out there, I just honestly don\u2019t have time to look into every diet on the market.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2055.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0sha1c","c_root_id_B":"j0secw9","created_at_utc_A":1671414975,"created_at_utc_B":1671413593,"score_A":144,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"The other poster hit on some important points. Another one is that grain free diets, especially those high in legumes, have been associated with higher instances of DCM (heart disease). There are many studies but this is the FDA advisory about it.   It\u2019s best to feed your dog a balanced diet that fits AAFCO standards, which this diet likely doesn\u2019t. The brands I generally recommend are hill\u2019s, ProPlan, and Royal Canin but that\u2019s because I know these diets are well formulated. That doesn\u2019t mean there aren\u2019t many other great diets out there, I just honestly don\u2019t have time to look into every diet on the market.","human_ref_B":"Click the faq section of this sub scroll down to the question about vegan diets It says that this could be seen as animal cruelty.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1382.0,"score_ratio":20.5714285714}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0scye4","c_root_id_B":"j0soqfm","created_at_utc_A":1671412920,"created_at_utc_B":1671418592,"score_A":84,"score_B":117,"human_ref_A":"This diet could definitely be very problematic if fed long term. At a bare minimum, any diet fed should adhere to AAFCO guidelines. Additionally, dalmatians are extremely prone to developing bladder stones and the mineral balance of their food needs to be closely regulated to prevent them. If she wants to investigate a plant based diet that will meet all of his nutritional needs, she should book a consult with a boarded veterinary nutritionist.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sure there\u2019s other eco choices to be made around the house before forcing an animal who has no responsibility for the problems of the environment to fight green house gases.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5672.0,"score_ratio":1.3928571429}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0secw9","c_root_id_B":"j0soqfm","created_at_utc_A":1671413593,"created_at_utc_B":1671418592,"score_A":7,"score_B":117,"human_ref_A":"Click the faq section of this sub scroll down to the question about vegan diets It says that this could be seen as animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sure there\u2019s other eco choices to be made around the house before forcing an animal who has no responsibility for the problems of the environment to fight green house gases.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4999.0,"score_ratio":16.7142857143}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0t7p99","c_root_id_B":"j0scye4","created_at_utc_A":1671429026,"created_at_utc_B":1671412920,"score_A":113,"score_B":84,"human_ref_A":"It's not a good idea to put any omnivore or carnivore animal on a vegan diet without a doctor's recommendation.","human_ref_B":"This diet could definitely be very problematic if fed long term. At a bare minimum, any diet fed should adhere to AAFCO guidelines. Additionally, dalmatians are extremely prone to developing bladder stones and the mineral balance of their food needs to be closely regulated to prevent them. If she wants to investigate a plant based diet that will meet all of his nutritional needs, she should book a consult with a boarded veterinary nutritionist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16106.0,"score_ratio":1.3452380952}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0secw9","c_root_id_B":"j0t7p99","created_at_utc_A":1671413593,"created_at_utc_B":1671429026,"score_A":7,"score_B":113,"human_ref_A":"Click the faq section of this sub scroll down to the question about vegan diets It says that this could be seen as animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"It's not a good idea to put any omnivore or carnivore animal on a vegan diet without a doctor's recommendation.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15433.0,"score_ratio":16.1428571429}
{"post_id":"zpdp79","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Am I wrong for disagreeing about my girlfriend wanting to feed our Dalmatian vegan food? Recently my girlfriend has turned vegan and has been trying to make more eco friendly decisions. We have a Dalmatian 1 and a half year old and she has been considering converting his diet to vegan dog food (this brand specifically: https:\/\/www.zooplus.ie\/shop\/dogs\/dry_dog_food\/yarrah\/682341?variantid=682341.2&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Xn6X5nAF7Pw5XDXbGTwljTzk0R&gclid=CjwKCAiAkfucBhBBEiwAFjbkrwqD5vrRdyxwUSQRD64OjstPjEc4M8VYO1G04KgieHR5f_7KJOMjhhoCBhUQAvD_BwE ) I disagreed tremendously as I feel like he won\u2019t be full or drastically lose weight which he doesn\u2019t need. Am I uneducated? I can\u2019t find any information regarding it for Dalmatians specially. Input appreciated thank you","c_root_id_A":"j0secw9","c_root_id_B":"j0tk72f","created_at_utc_A":1671413593,"created_at_utc_B":1671438712,"score_A":7,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Click the faq section of this sub scroll down to the question about vegan diets It says that this could be seen as animal cruelty.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a technician and I tell clients all the time \u201cis your dog on a grain free diet?\u201d It\u2019s not safe long term and research has shown it\u2019s been linked to cardiovascular disease. Just because her lifestyle is vegan does not mean she should make her dog who literally has teeth to tear flesh off the bone and eat meat. Hills science is a great brand! I would strongly advise to give your dog the nutritional value he needs which is a dog food that has every ingredient he needs on a daily basis. Obviously look on the bag. The food does not need dye in it as well. They market it that way for the owners when in reality the dog doesn\u2019t care what color food he is eating.  Good luck !","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25119.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipd0d50","c_root_id_B":"ipcx78h","created_at_utc_A":1663783221,"created_at_utc_B":1663782037,"score_A":332,"score_B":140,"human_ref_A":"The feeding tube is more than likely temporary, while the jaw heals enough. You should get clarification on this. But it would be very unusual to have a permanent feeding tube.  We can't comment on the neurologic condition without a lot more information.  Cats have jaw fractured repaired all the time.","human_ref_B":"I would ask if the feeding tube is permanent or just until the fracture heals and if the neurological declines will be permanent or are related to trauma and if the cat will regain some neurological function. I would also ask what the best outcome will be as far as function\u2026and decide if that seems like a good quality of life or not.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1184.0,"score_ratio":2.3714285714}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcsbc3","c_root_id_B":"ipd0d50","created_at_utc_A":1663780218,"created_at_utc_B":1663783221,"score_A":36,"score_B":332,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","human_ref_B":"The feeding tube is more than likely temporary, while the jaw heals enough. You should get clarification on this. But it would be very unusual to have a permanent feeding tube.  We can't comment on the neurologic condition without a lot more information.  Cats have jaw fractured repaired all the time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3003.0,"score_ratio":9.2222222222}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipd0d50","c_root_id_B":"ipcpzhk","created_at_utc_A":1663783221,"created_at_utc_B":1663779346,"score_A":332,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"The feeding tube is more than likely temporary, while the jaw heals enough. You should get clarification on this. But it would be very unusual to have a permanent feeding tube.  We can't comment on the neurologic condition without a lot more information.  Cats have jaw fractured repaired all the time.","human_ref_B":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3875.0,"score_ratio":18.4444444444}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpnjt","c_root_id_B":"ipd0d50","created_at_utc_A":1663779224,"created_at_utc_B":1663783221,"score_A":2,"score_B":332,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"The feeding tube is more than likely temporary, while the jaw heals enough. You should get clarification on this. But it would be very unusual to have a permanent feeding tube.  We can't comment on the neurologic condition without a lot more information.  Cats have jaw fractured repaired all the time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3997.0,"score_ratio":166.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcsbc3","c_root_id_B":"ipcx78h","created_at_utc_A":1663780218,"created_at_utc_B":1663782037,"score_A":36,"score_B":140,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","human_ref_B":"I would ask if the feeding tube is permanent or just until the fracture heals and if the neurological declines will be permanent or are related to trauma and if the cat will regain some neurological function. I would also ask what the best outcome will be as far as function\u2026and decide if that seems like a good quality of life or not.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1819.0,"score_ratio":3.8888888889}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcx78h","c_root_id_B":"ipcpzhk","created_at_utc_A":1663782037,"created_at_utc_B":1663779346,"score_A":140,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"I would ask if the feeding tube is permanent or just until the fracture heals and if the neurological declines will be permanent or are related to trauma and if the cat will regain some neurological function. I would also ask what the best outcome will be as far as function\u2026and decide if that seems like a good quality of life or not.","human_ref_B":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2691.0,"score_ratio":7.7777777778}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpnjt","c_root_id_B":"ipcx78h","created_at_utc_A":1663779224,"created_at_utc_B":1663782037,"score_A":2,"score_B":140,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I would ask if the feeding tube is permanent or just until the fracture heals and if the neurological declines will be permanent or are related to trauma and if the cat will regain some neurological function. I would also ask what the best outcome will be as far as function\u2026and decide if that seems like a good quality of life or not.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2813.0,"score_ratio":70.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipdtp4g","c_root_id_B":"ipd34l4","created_at_utc_A":1663794276,"created_at_utc_B":1663784247,"score_A":60,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"If you're not concerned about the cost, I think you should go ahead with the surgery. If your cat's quality of life is really low after the surgery, you can still go with euthanasia, but at least then you'll know what the outcome of the surgery was and that euthanasia was the right choice.  If you go straight to euthanasia, you'll always wonder what the outcome of the surgery would have been and if you made the right choice.","human_ref_B":"Any possibility that your dad would help cover costs since his dog was responsible?? Also, in my opinion it doesn\u2019t seem likely that the feeding tube would be permanent or there would be neurological deficits unless your cat sustained some sort of head injury or loss of airway, etc. I feel like a jaw surgery is pretty cut and dry, and a cats jaw can heal just as any human fracture would. I personally would go through with the surgery and keep the cat away from the dog in the future.   EDIT: so sorry, didn\u2019t see the sentence about neurological decline. Did they sustain head injuries?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10029.0,"score_ratio":1.0909090909}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipdtp4g","c_root_id_B":"ipcsbc3","created_at_utc_A":1663794276,"created_at_utc_B":1663780218,"score_A":60,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"If you're not concerned about the cost, I think you should go ahead with the surgery. If your cat's quality of life is really low after the surgery, you can still go with euthanasia, but at least then you'll know what the outcome of the surgery was and that euthanasia was the right choice.  If you go straight to euthanasia, you'll always wonder what the outcome of the surgery would have been and if you made the right choice.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14058.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipdtp4g","c_root_id_B":"ipcpzhk","created_at_utc_A":1663794276,"created_at_utc_B":1663779346,"score_A":60,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"If you're not concerned about the cost, I think you should go ahead with the surgery. If your cat's quality of life is really low after the surgery, you can still go with euthanasia, but at least then you'll know what the outcome of the surgery was and that euthanasia was the right choice.  If you go straight to euthanasia, you'll always wonder what the outcome of the surgery would have been and if you made the right choice.","human_ref_B":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14930.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpnjt","c_root_id_B":"ipdtp4g","created_at_utc_A":1663779224,"created_at_utc_B":1663794276,"score_A":2,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"If you're not concerned about the cost, I think you should go ahead with the surgery. If your cat's quality of life is really low after the surgery, you can still go with euthanasia, but at least then you'll know what the outcome of the surgery was and that euthanasia was the right choice.  If you go straight to euthanasia, you'll always wonder what the outcome of the surgery would have been and if you made the right choice.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15052.0,"score_ratio":30.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcsbc3","c_root_id_B":"ipd34l4","created_at_utc_A":1663780218,"created_at_utc_B":1663784247,"score_A":36,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","human_ref_B":"Any possibility that your dad would help cover costs since his dog was responsible?? Also, in my opinion it doesn\u2019t seem likely that the feeding tube would be permanent or there would be neurological deficits unless your cat sustained some sort of head injury or loss of airway, etc. I feel like a jaw surgery is pretty cut and dry, and a cats jaw can heal just as any human fracture would. I personally would go through with the surgery and keep the cat away from the dog in the future.   EDIT: so sorry, didn\u2019t see the sentence about neurological decline. Did they sustain head injuries?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4029.0,"score_ratio":1.5277777778}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpzhk","c_root_id_B":"ipd34l4","created_at_utc_A":1663779346,"created_at_utc_B":1663784247,"score_A":18,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","human_ref_B":"Any possibility that your dad would help cover costs since his dog was responsible?? Also, in my opinion it doesn\u2019t seem likely that the feeding tube would be permanent or there would be neurological deficits unless your cat sustained some sort of head injury or loss of airway, etc. I feel like a jaw surgery is pretty cut and dry, and a cats jaw can heal just as any human fracture would. I personally would go through with the surgery and keep the cat away from the dog in the future.   EDIT: so sorry, didn\u2019t see the sentence about neurological decline. Did they sustain head injuries?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4901.0,"score_ratio":3.0555555556}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpnjt","c_root_id_B":"ipd34l4","created_at_utc_A":1663779224,"created_at_utc_B":1663784247,"score_A":2,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Any possibility that your dad would help cover costs since his dog was responsible?? Also, in my opinion it doesn\u2019t seem likely that the feeding tube would be permanent or there would be neurological deficits unless your cat sustained some sort of head injury or loss of airway, etc. I feel like a jaw surgery is pretty cut and dry, and a cats jaw can heal just as any human fracture would. I personally would go through with the surgery and keep the cat away from the dog in the future.   EDIT: so sorry, didn\u2019t see the sentence about neurological decline. Did they sustain head injuries?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5023.0,"score_ratio":27.5}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpzhk","c_root_id_B":"ipcsbc3","created_at_utc_A":1663779346,"created_at_utc_B":1663780218,"score_A":18,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":872.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcsbc3","c_root_id_B":"ipcpnjt","created_at_utc_A":1663780218,"created_at_utc_B":1663779224,"score_A":36,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s highly highly highly unlikely that the feeding tube is meant to be permanent. There are other forms of feeding tubes that could be permanent, an esophagostomy tube generally isn\u2019t. It would likely be removed once he is able to eat on his own. The most concerning thing is the neurologic aspect of this. That\u2019s what you need to speak to your vet about to get their opinion on his future mentation. That has a higher impact on quality of life than the other things you mention.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":994.0,"score_ratio":18.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipeou0h","c_root_id_B":"ipcpzhk","created_at_utc_A":1663807651,"created_at_utc_B":1663779346,"score_A":23,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Try to talk to the vet about duration of recovery expected for your cat. My JRT was savagely attacked by a pit and had his head almost ripped off. He had several drains and a feeding tube for about a month. During this time he had to be supervised 24\/7 so that he didn\u2019t injure himself. He healed well,no infections and lived another ten years. It was not easy recovery for either of us. Talk to the vet,so you have an idea of what to expect. Someone very wise once told me two things that I have held dear. First,make your decisions with love and you will make the right decision. Second,it is not wrong or selfish  to consider how things effect you ,when you are considering decisions that involve others.","human_ref_B":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28305.0,"score_ratio":1.2777777778}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipeou0h","c_root_id_B":"ipe1plk","created_at_utc_A":1663807651,"created_at_utc_B":1663797549,"score_A":23,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Try to talk to the vet about duration of recovery expected for your cat. My JRT was savagely attacked by a pit and had his head almost ripped off. He had several drains and a feeding tube for about a month. During this time he had to be supervised 24\/7 so that he didn\u2019t injure himself. He healed well,no infections and lived another ten years. It was not easy recovery for either of us. Talk to the vet,so you have an idea of what to expect. Someone very wise once told me two things that I have held dear. First,make your decisions with love and you will make the right decision. Second,it is not wrong or selfish  to consider how things effect you ,when you are considering decisions that involve others.","human_ref_B":"feeding tube is necessary while the jaw heals. If I were you, I'd ask the vet for more information about expected quality of life after the procedure and how long the healing process is.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10102.0,"score_ratio":2.0909090909}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipeou0h","c_root_id_B":"ipcpnjt","created_at_utc_A":1663807651,"created_at_utc_B":1663779224,"score_A":23,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Try to talk to the vet about duration of recovery expected for your cat. My JRT was savagely attacked by a pit and had his head almost ripped off. He had several drains and a feeding tube for about a month. During this time he had to be supervised 24\/7 so that he didn\u2019t injure himself. He healed well,no infections and lived another ten years. It was not easy recovery for either of us. Talk to the vet,so you have an idea of what to expect. Someone very wise once told me two things that I have held dear. First,make your decisions with love and you will make the right decision. Second,it is not wrong or selfish  to consider how things effect you ,when you are considering decisions that involve others.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28427.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipcpnjt","c_root_id_B":"ipcpzhk","created_at_utc_A":1663779224,"created_at_utc_B":1663779346,"score_A":2,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Did the vet say the feeding tube would be permanent?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":122.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"xkabni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My cat got attacked by a dog and I have to choose euthanasia or surgery +feeding tube. My cat was attacked by my dad's American Bully. I could go on about my opinion on bullies and bull breeds but I won't. The cat is 5 years old. Bully is a year. Never been hurt to the point of needing medical attention.     My cat was attacked and his jaw was broken. The doctor is recommending surgery to repair the jaw and placing a feeding tube, OR euthanasia. I'm not concerned about cost, but it would be $700-900 for medication, anesthesia, cerclage-wide repair of the fracture, esophagostomy tube placement and radiographs. The cat's neurological functions are also declining.      I love my cat so much but what do I do? I want to keep him but if he can't do anything (idk the extent of neurological decline) and is stuck on a feeding tube is he even going to live a good life? Has anyone had a similar scenario? I don't need anything explained I just want to know what is the most moral and most humane choice to make. I'm so torn and heartbroken.","c_root_id_A":"ipe1plk","c_root_id_B":"ipcpnjt","created_at_utc_A":1663797549,"created_at_utc_B":1663779224,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"feeding tube is necessary while the jaw heals. If I were you, I'd ask the vet for more information about expected quality of life after the procedure and how long the healing process is.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18325.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivo7b24","c_root_id_B":"ivo7782","created_at_utc_A":1667994914,"created_at_utc_B":1667994842,"score_A":332,"score_B":252,"human_ref_A":"In Sweden kittens have to be 12 weeks by law to be separated from the mother. 6 weeks is too early!","human_ref_B":"8 weeks is standard at 6 weeks they have alot to learn from mom and siblings still.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":72.0,"score_ratio":1.3174603175}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivo9gau","c_root_id_B":"ivo7kz2","created_at_utc_A":1667996273,"created_at_utc_B":1667995099,"score_A":156,"score_B":84,"human_ref_A":"Eight weeks is about the earliest adoption point we recommend for cats.   This being said, I have acquired MANY kittens who were separated from mom around the six week mark (shelter medicine). At six weeks they are likely to be physically fine, but they are also more likely to have social or behavioral problems in the future.   This example is anecdotal, but my own cat was orphaned around the six week mark. He has grown into a very handsome boy, but he is also VERY attached to my husband and I and becomes badly anxious when separated from us. I often wish he had been given those extra weeks with mom, that maybe he would be happier or healthier for it, but I know all I can do now is love him and raise him the way he is.   All YOU can do now is move forward and learn. I think it means a lot that you feel guilt and are willing to be introspective. We all make mistakes, but so long as we improve from them we can be sure they happened for a reason. :)","human_ref_B":"Yeah too early the kittens were probably still feeding from mama cat too. 8 weeks if fully weened from mamas milk is minimum.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1174.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivoc09l","c_root_id_B":"ivog64w","created_at_utc_A":1667997777,"created_at_utc_B":1668000022,"score_A":23,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not!  Absolute minimun is 8 weeks and even that is cutting it too close.  It should be closer to 12 weeks.  Good chance these kittens are not going to be great. They wouldnt have had time to learn properly nor be socialised.","human_ref_B":"Hey there. I am glad to hear you are working on getting mama cat spayed. From a socialization standpoint 12 weeks is typically the best time to separate Mama and kittens. Ideally said kittens would be fully vaccinated, dewormed and fixed at that point but not everyone can afford to do that. Try not to let the overly judgemental commenters get to you. You can only ever do your best with what you have.   To ease your concerns, at 6 weeks kittens should be able to survive without mom as long as they are willing to eat wet or dry food. They may have some behavioral issues, especially if they are the only cat in their new home.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2245.0,"score_ratio":2.1739130435}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivokhao","c_root_id_B":"ivoc09l","created_at_utc_A":1668002134,"created_at_utc_B":1667997777,"score_A":39,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t consider it before 12 weeks. They need to learn a lot from their litter and their mom. Separating them that early can lead to behavioral issues, nevermind that it\u2019s hard on the kittens themselves.","human_ref_B":"Absolutely not!  Absolute minimun is 8 weeks and even that is cutting it too close.  It should be closer to 12 weeks.  Good chance these kittens are not going to be great. They wouldnt have had time to learn properly nor be socialised.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4357.0,"score_ratio":1.6956521739}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivoc09l","c_root_id_B":"ivooslz","created_at_utc_A":1667997777,"created_at_utc_B":1668004088,"score_A":23,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not!  Absolute minimun is 8 weeks and even that is cutting it too close.  It should be closer to 12 weeks.  Good chance these kittens are not going to be great. They wouldnt have had time to learn properly nor be socialised.","human_ref_B":"Please spay and neuterc- there are way too many kittens being euthanized in shelters. Some shelters receive boxes of kittens everyday in \"kitten season\" in early summer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6311.0,"score_ratio":1.1739130435}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivooslz","c_root_id_B":"ivolzcq","created_at_utc_A":1668004088,"created_at_utc_B":1668002831,"score_A":27,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Please spay and neuterc- there are way too many kittens being euthanized in shelters. Some shelters receive boxes of kittens everyday in \"kitten season\" in early summer.","human_ref_B":"They should be 12 weeks old before leaving their mom.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1257.0,"score_ratio":1.6875}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivooslz","c_root_id_B":"ivom2k4","created_at_utc_A":1668004088,"created_at_utc_B":1668002871,"score_A":27,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Please spay and neuterc- there are way too many kittens being euthanized in shelters. Some shelters receive boxes of kittens everyday in \"kitten season\" in early summer.","human_ref_B":"Hey OP, are you comfortable sharing your general location so we might be able to help you figure out a low cost spay program? If not, and if you\u2019re in the US, call your local shelters (not just the closest one to you - call em all!), google \u201cmy location + low cost\/reduced neuter\u201d and similar terms, and call around to local vets to see if they know of any discount programs. It\u2019s worth looking into!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1217.0,"score_ratio":1.6875}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivoow5c","c_root_id_B":"ivoc09l","created_at_utc_A":1668004131,"created_at_utc_B":1667997777,"score_A":26,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I ended up adopting a cat that was taken to early from his momma and he has serious anxiety and follows me everywhere. Not good for the kitties","human_ref_B":"Absolutely not!  Absolute minimun is 8 weeks and even that is cutting it too close.  It should be closer to 12 weeks.  Good chance these kittens are not going to be great. They wouldnt have had time to learn properly nor be socialised.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6354.0,"score_ratio":1.1304347826}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivoow5c","c_root_id_B":"ivolzcq","created_at_utc_A":1668004131,"created_at_utc_B":1668002831,"score_A":26,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I ended up adopting a cat that was taken to early from his momma and he has serious anxiety and follows me everywhere. Not good for the kitties","human_ref_B":"They should be 12 weeks old before leaving their mom.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1300.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"yqgiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Is six weeks old enough to give away kittens? I worry I may have made a mistake. Two days ago I gave away six kittens at six weeks old, under the guidance of my mother who had raised more litters than I have.  I really should have done my research beforehand but I looked it up just now and I'm getting wildly varying results about when they're old enough.  Will the kittens be ok?","c_root_id_A":"ivom2k4","c_root_id_B":"ivoow5c","created_at_utc_A":1668002871,"created_at_utc_B":1668004131,"score_A":16,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP, are you comfortable sharing your general location so we might be able to help you figure out a low cost spay program? If not, and if you\u2019re in the US, call your local shelters (not just the closest one to you - call em all!), google \u201cmy location + low cost\/reduced neuter\u201d and similar terms, and call around to local vets to see if they know of any discount programs. It\u2019s worth looking into!","human_ref_B":"I ended up adopting a cat that was taken to early from his momma and he has serious anxiety and follows me everywhere. Not good for the kitties","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1260.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5g9s3","c_root_id_B":"gd5eerj","created_at_utc_A":1606013257,"created_at_utc_B":1606012535,"score_A":182,"score_B":112,"human_ref_A":"Also give the cats places to get up high. They need a true safe place.","human_ref_B":"You will need to keep both cats separate from the dogs indefinitely. Whether that's crate training the dogs or designating the cats to certain rooms. If you can't keep uo with that then I would recommend rehoming either the cats or the dogs. If the dogs are a higher priority then rehome both cats together to a dog free household. If you rehome the dogs you need to be completely honest about them to potential homes. Long term if you keep the dogs you will need work with a behaviorist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":722.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5g9s3","c_root_id_B":"gd5588u","created_at_utc_A":1606013257,"created_at_utc_B":1606008959,"score_A":182,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Also give the cats places to get up high. They need a true safe place.","human_ref_B":"If possible, I would recommend getting a consult with a veterinary behaviorist who could help you determine specific triggers and training for Brownie and Roofus.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4298.0,"score_ratio":3.0847457627}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5qk36","c_root_id_B":"gd5eerj","created_at_utc_A":1606018694,"created_at_utc_B":1606012535,"score_A":147,"score_B":112,"human_ref_A":"You need to give serious consideration to destroying, or at the very least - and ONLY if it is safe to do so - rehoming this dog to a household with no other pets and probably also no children or vulnerable adults.  You've only had the dog a short period during which it has shown escalating violence including the killing of one of your pet cats.  Whilst, given I'm not a vet, I can't comment on whether this escalation pattern is clinically or behaviourally significant; what I can tell you - as a lawyer - is that you are squarely on notice that the dog has the propensity to engage in dangerous behaviour to both humans and smaller animals.  That puts you, as the owner, at risk of significant criminal and civil sanctions, in the event that the conduct is repeated, but this time the victim is someone from outside your household, whether human or animal.  Not only that - but do you really want to run the risk that the next thing to be bitten so the skin is pierced, and violently\/vigorously shaken, is one of your young nieces?  Sorry to put this so bluntly, but I hope you can see I've done so out of concern, and not spite.","human_ref_B":"You will need to keep both cats separate from the dogs indefinitely. Whether that's crate training the dogs or designating the cats to certain rooms. If you can't keep uo with that then I would recommend rehoming either the cats or the dogs. If the dogs are a higher priority then rehome both cats together to a dog free household. If you rehome the dogs you need to be completely honest about them to potential homes. Long term if you keep the dogs you will need work with a behaviorist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6159.0,"score_ratio":1.3125}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5588u","c_root_id_B":"gd5qk36","created_at_utc_A":1606008959,"created_at_utc_B":1606018694,"score_A":59,"score_B":147,"human_ref_A":"If possible, I would recommend getting a consult with a veterinary behaviorist who could help you determine specific triggers and training for Brownie and Roofus.","human_ref_B":"You need to give serious consideration to destroying, or at the very least - and ONLY if it is safe to do so - rehoming this dog to a household with no other pets and probably also no children or vulnerable adults.  You've only had the dog a short period during which it has shown escalating violence including the killing of one of your pet cats.  Whilst, given I'm not a vet, I can't comment on whether this escalation pattern is clinically or behaviourally significant; what I can tell you - as a lawyer - is that you are squarely on notice that the dog has the propensity to engage in dangerous behaviour to both humans and smaller animals.  That puts you, as the owner, at risk of significant criminal and civil sanctions, in the event that the conduct is repeated, but this time the victim is someone from outside your household, whether human or animal.  Not only that - but do you really want to run the risk that the next thing to be bitten so the skin is pierced, and violently\/vigorously shaken, is one of your young nieces?  Sorry to put this so bluntly, but I hope you can see I've done so out of concern, and not spite.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9735.0,"score_ratio":2.4915254237}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5n8ah","c_root_id_B":"gd5qk36","created_at_utc_A":1606017095,"created_at_utc_B":1606018694,"score_A":10,"score_B":147,"human_ref_A":"You can look up the american college of veterinary behaviorist they should be able to at least point you in the right direction","human_ref_B":"You need to give serious consideration to destroying, or at the very least - and ONLY if it is safe to do so - rehoming this dog to a household with no other pets and probably also no children or vulnerable adults.  You've only had the dog a short period during which it has shown escalating violence including the killing of one of your pet cats.  Whilst, given I'm not a vet, I can't comment on whether this escalation pattern is clinically or behaviourally significant; what I can tell you - as a lawyer - is that you are squarely on notice that the dog has the propensity to engage in dangerous behaviour to both humans and smaller animals.  That puts you, as the owner, at risk of significant criminal and civil sanctions, in the event that the conduct is repeated, but this time the victim is someone from outside your household, whether human or animal.  Not only that - but do you really want to run the risk that the next thing to be bitten so the skin is pierced, and violently\/vigorously shaken, is one of your young nieces?  Sorry to put this so bluntly, but I hope you can see I've done so out of concern, and not spite.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1599.0,"score_ratio":14.7}
{"post_id":"jymlru","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My dog killed my cat. I need prey drive advice Age: 2.5y Breed: Unknown we think husky\/Sheppard mix with other things too Weight: 80lbs Neutered   In December 2019, my wife and I rescued this dog from the side of the road. We named him Roofus. We were fortunate enough to find the owners who intentionally abandoned him and we found out that he had been living in a barn on a large piece of land with little to no significant human interaction. The owners took him from this situation and had him for about a week before letting him run away. When we asked why they gave up on him they said he is food aggressive, got in fights with their dogs, and nipped their kid. The guy was a dirt bag so I\u2019m not sure what I believe.  We took him home and he has been the sweetest dog ever since. He gets along great with our other two dogs and never had an issue with any of our 3 cats. They would all sleep with us in our bed and we really didn\u2019t have any issues. He has never been food aggressive and gets along great with nieces (1&3y) and my little brother (10y) who sometimes torments him.   There was one incident where my wife and I were playing a game where we are yelling and running around. The dogs were all excited and one of my dogs, Chewy (40lb, puggle lab mix, first child) got all jealous and started nipping and then roofus bit him once and then stopped. I like to think it was a back off bite but idk. That was 2 months after having him and no issues since then.   2 months ago we took in another abandoned dog, Brownie. 70lb, we think pit\/shar pei mix, neutered. This dog fit right into the pack. All 4 dogs get along great, sleep in the same bed, and have never gotten in any fights. They play and wrestle all the time. Brownie has an extremely high prey drive. He chases our cats and has caught them but always lets them go. We have been working on training this out of him and we are making some progress. He loves to chase squirrels and lizards outside which we let him do. We are trying to teach the difference.   Two nights ago brownie trapped one of our cats (Tigger) in the bathtub and there was a lot of noise. My wife ran in yelling at him to get him to stop. He never had Tigger in his mouth or pinned down as far as she saw. The cat gets out of the bathtub and starts to run away at which point roofus who just came in, grabs her, shakes her around like a toy and then drops her. She bled out on the way to the hospital.   This seemed so out of character for him. I\u2019ve read that other dogs acting on their prey drive can trigger dogs in their pack. Roofus is the alpha so I figure maybe he was backing up brownie or thought my wife was hurt. I don\u2019t know. I know it\u2019s his instincts and he didn\u2019t know better. He has never shown much aggression other than the one incident with chewy. He plays frisbee and fetch a lot which I read is a sign of high prey drive.    We have 2 other cats so we are obviously concerned about their safety. We have the dogs and cats separated now. One of the cats always runs away and brownie always chases her but one of the cats doesn\u2019t care, never runs away and sleeps with the dogs sometimes.   Obviously the cat that runs is in danger. Is the cat that doesn\u2019t run in danger? Neither brownie nor Roofus has ever even given her a second look. We are also concerned that Roofus may turn on our other two dogs (both 40lbs) since he did bite chewy before.   We are considering rehoming brownie and Roofus but they have had such bad lives up to this point and we are so attached to them. We are also considering rehoming just the cat the runs and then keeping the cat who doesn\u2019t run away as separated as possible but we are worried about the other two medium size dogs getting attacked now.   Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"gd5588u","c_root_id_B":"gd5eerj","created_at_utc_A":1606008959,"created_at_utc_B":1606012535,"score_A":59,"score_B":112,"human_ref_A":"If possible, I would recommend getting a consult with a veterinary behaviorist who could help you determine specific triggers and training for Brownie and Roofus.","human_ref_B":"You will need to keep both cats separate from the dogs indefinitely. Whether that's crate training the dogs or designating the cats to certain rooms. If you can't keep uo with that then I would recommend rehoming either the cats or the dogs. If the dogs are a higher priority then rehome both cats together to a dog free household. If you rehome the dogs you need to be completely honest about them to potential homes. Long term if you keep the dogs you will need work with a behaviorist.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3576.0,"score_ratio":1.8983050847}
{"post_id":"eb22j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Follow up and another thank you on kitten Lucy with what we thought was stomatitis **TL;DR: Initially understood my kitten might need euthanasia, you suggested vet dentist who said it might be stomatitis, now have definitive dx of Eosinophil Granular Complex, with excellent prognosis!**    &#x200B;  Summary:   Came to you a couple of months ago for 6 month old kitten with sore mouth, drooling, avoiding eating.  Vet listed many conditions it could be, gave her depo shot, said if shot works, it's a bad signs, also mentioned some cats are euthanized for these problems.    I lost it, sobbed in the car, came to this forum, and you all suggested I find a Veterinary Dentist. I did, and she said it was maybe stomatitis and I felt relieved.  &#x200B;  New info:  Not Stomatitis.  Took her back in to the Vet Dentist for drooling, avoiding eating, smacking, batting at mouth after shot started to wear off.  She worked me in immediately (She is AMAZING) and found a sore spot and put Lucy under reversible sedation and did a biopsy.  Three stitches.  A week later, biopsy results came back: Eosinophil Granuloma Complex.    So, I now have special food for her (Hill's Z\/D) where they, if I understand it right, process and hydrolysize (sp??) the food so that the proteins are too small for her white blood cells to care about.  Got the prescription food yesterday, set it out for her and she is GULPING it down.  Got wet and dry.  It's hecka expensive, but she is worth it.  They said also we will do double flea prevention (some shot that lasts 3 months, and a heavy duty strong skin prescription application--sorry that I don't remember the names) in case it is fleas.  Said it could also be mosquitos, but she is an indoor cat, so that is less likely.  I am SO RELIEVED.  My understanding is this is a lifelong thing, and I am more than willing to help her with it.  I just want her to be healthy.  She came to me with an URI and Coccidia and roundworm, then got another URI after the Depo shot, and has had three flares of these mouth sores. She is only 9 months old, poor little baby!    I am hopeful that the two Depo shots will not cause any future issues, but I will deal with them if they occur.    &#x200B;  I just wanted to say again that your suggestion to find a Veterinary Dentist was just perfect.  I know you have to be careful here and not diagnose, and you were and just gently guided me to the right person.  It was exactly what I needed.  The Vet Dentist is not located in my city, but hold clinic here 2 days a month.  I have switched Lucy to the Veterinary clinic where she rounds and like the new Veterinarian very much.  He consulted with the Vet Dentist, who initially suggested rabbit and peas, and suggested this Z\/D instead, and I trust them both.    I am not going back to the original vet, only because I feel we did not communicate well with one another.  I do not doubt his skill.  He helped my 18 year old cat Violet through a stroke before she died on May 1 of this year.  I know he is very skilled.  I just think that for my communication needs, the new vet is a better fit.    &#x200B;  Thank you all so much for your guidance and care and compassion.  Lucy thanks you as well!  Here is a pic of the day we met:    https:\/\/imgur.com\/z2KqBOX  We Thank You!  &#x200B;  For the bot:  Feline, Female, Unaltered, Domestic short hair, SE USA.","c_root_id_A":"fb1ynd8","c_root_id_B":"fb1c6ul","created_at_utc_A":1576443052,"created_at_utc_B":1576434798,"score_A":23,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for being such a diligent and committed pet parent!! I'm so glad Lucy is feeling better! All the best to you and her from here on out in your journey together. :)","human_ref_B":"So glad she\u2019s felling better. What a cutie!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8254.0,"score_ratio":1.4375}
{"post_id":"eb22j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Follow up and another thank you on kitten Lucy with what we thought was stomatitis **TL;DR: Initially understood my kitten might need euthanasia, you suggested vet dentist who said it might be stomatitis, now have definitive dx of Eosinophil Granular Complex, with excellent prognosis!**    &#x200B;  Summary:   Came to you a couple of months ago for 6 month old kitten with sore mouth, drooling, avoiding eating.  Vet listed many conditions it could be, gave her depo shot, said if shot works, it's a bad signs, also mentioned some cats are euthanized for these problems.    I lost it, sobbed in the car, came to this forum, and you all suggested I find a Veterinary Dentist. I did, and she said it was maybe stomatitis and I felt relieved.  &#x200B;  New info:  Not Stomatitis.  Took her back in to the Vet Dentist for drooling, avoiding eating, smacking, batting at mouth after shot started to wear off.  She worked me in immediately (She is AMAZING) and found a sore spot and put Lucy under reversible sedation and did a biopsy.  Three stitches.  A week later, biopsy results came back: Eosinophil Granuloma Complex.    So, I now have special food for her (Hill's Z\/D) where they, if I understand it right, process and hydrolysize (sp??) the food so that the proteins are too small for her white blood cells to care about.  Got the prescription food yesterday, set it out for her and she is GULPING it down.  Got wet and dry.  It's hecka expensive, but she is worth it.  They said also we will do double flea prevention (some shot that lasts 3 months, and a heavy duty strong skin prescription application--sorry that I don't remember the names) in case it is fleas.  Said it could also be mosquitos, but she is an indoor cat, so that is less likely.  I am SO RELIEVED.  My understanding is this is a lifelong thing, and I am more than willing to help her with it.  I just want her to be healthy.  She came to me with an URI and Coccidia and roundworm, then got another URI after the Depo shot, and has had three flares of these mouth sores. She is only 9 months old, poor little baby!    I am hopeful that the two Depo shots will not cause any future issues, but I will deal with them if they occur.    &#x200B;  I just wanted to say again that your suggestion to find a Veterinary Dentist was just perfect.  I know you have to be careful here and not diagnose, and you were and just gently guided me to the right person.  It was exactly what I needed.  The Vet Dentist is not located in my city, but hold clinic here 2 days a month.  I have switched Lucy to the Veterinary clinic where she rounds and like the new Veterinarian very much.  He consulted with the Vet Dentist, who initially suggested rabbit and peas, and suggested this Z\/D instead, and I trust them both.    I am not going back to the original vet, only because I feel we did not communicate well with one another.  I do not doubt his skill.  He helped my 18 year old cat Violet through a stroke before she died on May 1 of this year.  I know he is very skilled.  I just think that for my communication needs, the new vet is a better fit.    &#x200B;  Thank you all so much for your guidance and care and compassion.  Lucy thanks you as well!  Here is a pic of the day we met:    https:\/\/imgur.com\/z2KqBOX  We Thank You!  &#x200B;  For the bot:  Feline, Female, Unaltered, Domestic short hair, SE USA.","c_root_id_A":"fb22be8","c_root_id_B":"fb25bs8","created_at_utc_A":1576444460,"created_at_utc_B":1576445643,"score_A":6,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"What a lovely outcome, I hope she is doing well!!","human_ref_B":"Happy to hear Lucy will be ok! You\u2019re a wonderful person to help her like you have!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1183.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"eb22j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Follow up and another thank you on kitten Lucy with what we thought was stomatitis **TL;DR: Initially understood my kitten might need euthanasia, you suggested vet dentist who said it might be stomatitis, now have definitive dx of Eosinophil Granular Complex, with excellent prognosis!**    &#x200B;  Summary:   Came to you a couple of months ago for 6 month old kitten with sore mouth, drooling, avoiding eating.  Vet listed many conditions it could be, gave her depo shot, said if shot works, it's a bad signs, also mentioned some cats are euthanized for these problems.    I lost it, sobbed in the car, came to this forum, and you all suggested I find a Veterinary Dentist. I did, and she said it was maybe stomatitis and I felt relieved.  &#x200B;  New info:  Not Stomatitis.  Took her back in to the Vet Dentist for drooling, avoiding eating, smacking, batting at mouth after shot started to wear off.  She worked me in immediately (She is AMAZING) and found a sore spot and put Lucy under reversible sedation and did a biopsy.  Three stitches.  A week later, biopsy results came back: Eosinophil Granuloma Complex.    So, I now have special food for her (Hill's Z\/D) where they, if I understand it right, process and hydrolysize (sp??) the food so that the proteins are too small for her white blood cells to care about.  Got the prescription food yesterday, set it out for her and she is GULPING it down.  Got wet and dry.  It's hecka expensive, but she is worth it.  They said also we will do double flea prevention (some shot that lasts 3 months, and a heavy duty strong skin prescription application--sorry that I don't remember the names) in case it is fleas.  Said it could also be mosquitos, but she is an indoor cat, so that is less likely.  I am SO RELIEVED.  My understanding is this is a lifelong thing, and I am more than willing to help her with it.  I just want her to be healthy.  She came to me with an URI and Coccidia and roundworm, then got another URI after the Depo shot, and has had three flares of these mouth sores. She is only 9 months old, poor little baby!    I am hopeful that the two Depo shots will not cause any future issues, but I will deal with them if they occur.    &#x200B;  I just wanted to say again that your suggestion to find a Veterinary Dentist was just perfect.  I know you have to be careful here and not diagnose, and you were and just gently guided me to the right person.  It was exactly what I needed.  The Vet Dentist is not located in my city, but hold clinic here 2 days a month.  I have switched Lucy to the Veterinary clinic where she rounds and like the new Veterinarian very much.  He consulted with the Vet Dentist, who initially suggested rabbit and peas, and suggested this Z\/D instead, and I trust them both.    I am not going back to the original vet, only because I feel we did not communicate well with one another.  I do not doubt his skill.  He helped my 18 year old cat Violet through a stroke before she died on May 1 of this year.  I know he is very skilled.  I just think that for my communication needs, the new vet is a better fit.    &#x200B;  Thank you all so much for your guidance and care and compassion.  Lucy thanks you as well!  Here is a pic of the day we met:    https:\/\/imgur.com\/z2KqBOX  We Thank You!  &#x200B;  For the bot:  Feline, Female, Unaltered, Domestic short hair, SE USA.","c_root_id_A":"fb27qxx","c_root_id_B":"fb2wbe2","created_at_utc_A":1576446600,"created_at_utc_B":1576458944,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"\ud83d\udc97 Glad to hear this and thank you for being committed to her care! Lucy is lucky to have you!","human_ref_B":"Thank you for sharing your story, I'm so glad your kitty is on the write track.      This is a nice post reminder to the people critical of how this reddit can help people. We can't spoon feed you diagnoses and treatment based on ethical reasons, but we can try to point people in the write direction and make people aware of the resources that are out there to help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12344.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"eb22j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Follow up and another thank you on kitten Lucy with what we thought was stomatitis **TL;DR: Initially understood my kitten might need euthanasia, you suggested vet dentist who said it might be stomatitis, now have definitive dx of Eosinophil Granular Complex, with excellent prognosis!**    &#x200B;  Summary:   Came to you a couple of months ago for 6 month old kitten with sore mouth, drooling, avoiding eating.  Vet listed many conditions it could be, gave her depo shot, said if shot works, it's a bad signs, also mentioned some cats are euthanized for these problems.    I lost it, sobbed in the car, came to this forum, and you all suggested I find a Veterinary Dentist. I did, and she said it was maybe stomatitis and I felt relieved.  &#x200B;  New info:  Not Stomatitis.  Took her back in to the Vet Dentist for drooling, avoiding eating, smacking, batting at mouth after shot started to wear off.  She worked me in immediately (She is AMAZING) and found a sore spot and put Lucy under reversible sedation and did a biopsy.  Three stitches.  A week later, biopsy results came back: Eosinophil Granuloma Complex.    So, I now have special food for her (Hill's Z\/D) where they, if I understand it right, process and hydrolysize (sp??) the food so that the proteins are too small for her white blood cells to care about.  Got the prescription food yesterday, set it out for her and she is GULPING it down.  Got wet and dry.  It's hecka expensive, but she is worth it.  They said also we will do double flea prevention (some shot that lasts 3 months, and a heavy duty strong skin prescription application--sorry that I don't remember the names) in case it is fleas.  Said it could also be mosquitos, but she is an indoor cat, so that is less likely.  I am SO RELIEVED.  My understanding is this is a lifelong thing, and I am more than willing to help her with it.  I just want her to be healthy.  She came to me with an URI and Coccidia and roundworm, then got another URI after the Depo shot, and has had three flares of these mouth sores. She is only 9 months old, poor little baby!    I am hopeful that the two Depo shots will not cause any future issues, but I will deal with them if they occur.    &#x200B;  I just wanted to say again that your suggestion to find a Veterinary Dentist was just perfect.  I know you have to be careful here and not diagnose, and you were and just gently guided me to the right person.  It was exactly what I needed.  The Vet Dentist is not located in my city, but hold clinic here 2 days a month.  I have switched Lucy to the Veterinary clinic where she rounds and like the new Veterinarian very much.  He consulted with the Vet Dentist, who initially suggested rabbit and peas, and suggested this Z\/D instead, and I trust them both.    I am not going back to the original vet, only because I feel we did not communicate well with one another.  I do not doubt his skill.  He helped my 18 year old cat Violet through a stroke before she died on May 1 of this year.  I know he is very skilled.  I just think that for my communication needs, the new vet is a better fit.    &#x200B;  Thank you all so much for your guidance and care and compassion.  Lucy thanks you as well!  Here is a pic of the day we met:    https:\/\/imgur.com\/z2KqBOX  We Thank You!  &#x200B;  For the bot:  Feline, Female, Unaltered, Domestic short hair, SE USA.","c_root_id_A":"fb22be8","c_root_id_B":"fb2wbe2","created_at_utc_A":1576444460,"created_at_utc_B":1576458944,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"What a lovely outcome, I hope she is doing well!!","human_ref_B":"Thank you for sharing your story, I'm so glad your kitty is on the write track.      This is a nice post reminder to the people critical of how this reddit can help people. We can't spoon feed you diagnoses and treatment based on ethical reasons, but we can try to point people in the write direction and make people aware of the resources that are out there to help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14484.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"eb22j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Follow up and another thank you on kitten Lucy with what we thought was stomatitis **TL;DR: Initially understood my kitten might need euthanasia, you suggested vet dentist who said it might be stomatitis, now have definitive dx of Eosinophil Granular Complex, with excellent prognosis!**    &#x200B;  Summary:   Came to you a couple of months ago for 6 month old kitten with sore mouth, drooling, avoiding eating.  Vet listed many conditions it could be, gave her depo shot, said if shot works, it's a bad signs, also mentioned some cats are euthanized for these problems.    I lost it, sobbed in the car, came to this forum, and you all suggested I find a Veterinary Dentist. I did, and she said it was maybe stomatitis and I felt relieved.  &#x200B;  New info:  Not Stomatitis.  Took her back in to the Vet Dentist for drooling, avoiding eating, smacking, batting at mouth after shot started to wear off.  She worked me in immediately (She is AMAZING) and found a sore spot and put Lucy under reversible sedation and did a biopsy.  Three stitches.  A week later, biopsy results came back: Eosinophil Granuloma Complex.    So, I now have special food for her (Hill's Z\/D) where they, if I understand it right, process and hydrolysize (sp??) the food so that the proteins are too small for her white blood cells to care about.  Got the prescription food yesterday, set it out for her and she is GULPING it down.  Got wet and dry.  It's hecka expensive, but she is worth it.  They said also we will do double flea prevention (some shot that lasts 3 months, and a heavy duty strong skin prescription application--sorry that I don't remember the names) in case it is fleas.  Said it could also be mosquitos, but she is an indoor cat, so that is less likely.  I am SO RELIEVED.  My understanding is this is a lifelong thing, and I am more than willing to help her with it.  I just want her to be healthy.  She came to me with an URI and Coccidia and roundworm, then got another URI after the Depo shot, and has had three flares of these mouth sores. She is only 9 months old, poor little baby!    I am hopeful that the two Depo shots will not cause any future issues, but I will deal with them if they occur.    &#x200B;  I just wanted to say again that your suggestion to find a Veterinary Dentist was just perfect.  I know you have to be careful here and not diagnose, and you were and just gently guided me to the right person.  It was exactly what I needed.  The Vet Dentist is not located in my city, but hold clinic here 2 days a month.  I have switched Lucy to the Veterinary clinic where she rounds and like the new Veterinarian very much.  He consulted with the Vet Dentist, who initially suggested rabbit and peas, and suggested this Z\/D instead, and I trust them both.    I am not going back to the original vet, only because I feel we did not communicate well with one another.  I do not doubt his skill.  He helped my 18 year old cat Violet through a stroke before she died on May 1 of this year.  I know he is very skilled.  I just think that for my communication needs, the new vet is a better fit.    &#x200B;  Thank you all so much for your guidance and care and compassion.  Lucy thanks you as well!  Here is a pic of the day we met:    https:\/\/imgur.com\/z2KqBOX  We Thank You!  &#x200B;  For the bot:  Feline, Female, Unaltered, Domestic short hair, SE USA.","c_root_id_A":"fb22be8","c_root_id_B":"fb27qxx","created_at_utc_A":1576444460,"created_at_utc_B":1576446600,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"What a lovely outcome, I hope she is doing well!!","human_ref_B":"\ud83d\udc97 Glad to hear this and thank you for being committed to her care! Lucy is lucky to have you!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2140.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gc1p2f","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My cat keeps masturbating on my bed and it drives me insane I know that sounds really weird, but it's true. We got him as a kitten from a crackhead that would blow smoke in his face, yes this has caused various problems for him now including; regular freakouts, possibly something like PTSD, bulimia, though that could be unrelated, and, of course, masturbation. He basically just kneads the bed for a while then nuts on my damn sheets (it doesn't smell like piss, so I can only assume it's semen). He's neutured, so I didn't think he'd do this but here we are.   It is so incredibly infuriating to be sitting on my bed, drawing, and he comes up and starts kneading. You KNOW he just here to get his rocks off, so you can only take him off your bed and hope he gets bored and doesn't come back up.   Is there some way I can get him to stop? It's negatively affected the 'friendship' we have considering how no one else knows how to care for a cat. I have to keep my door closed all the time so he doesn't disturb my work.","c_root_id_A":"fp90qlz","c_root_id_B":"fp95gzj","created_at_utc_A":1588409880,"created_at_utc_B":1588415092,"score_A":27,"score_B":132,"human_ref_A":"It doesn't seem like you're old enough or have the resources to take proper care of your cat right now. If your cat needs to see a vet and you consistently can't afford to take them the only right and humane thing to do would be to take it to a shelter where it can get the proper medical care it needs until someone with the resources to take care of him can adopt him.  I understand you love your cat but if that's the case you need to think outside of what you want and consider what's best for your animal.   Also dont blame yourself your parents shouldn't have let you take on an animal they weren't going to financially contribute to when you're literally dependant on them.   But no one on this sub is going to replace an actual professional who can examine and run test on your pet we can just advise you to get it to care asap.","human_ref_B":"Your cat is vomiting regularly after eating and having behavior issues. Your parents need to consult a veterinarian. Not expect their 15 year old to gather proof from internet strangers. If your parents refuse to take your cat in for a basic physical exam, regardless of their reasoning, it may be time to reconsider owning the pet.   I say physical exam because that is the starting point for care. That exam puts the pet owner in front of a professional to voice concerns and get accurate recommendations based on substantially more information that a phone call or internet post.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5212.0,"score_ratio":4.8888888889}
{"post_id":"gc1p2f","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My cat keeps masturbating on my bed and it drives me insane I know that sounds really weird, but it's true. We got him as a kitten from a crackhead that would blow smoke in his face, yes this has caused various problems for him now including; regular freakouts, possibly something like PTSD, bulimia, though that could be unrelated, and, of course, masturbation. He basically just kneads the bed for a while then nuts on my damn sheets (it doesn't smell like piss, so I can only assume it's semen). He's neutured, so I didn't think he'd do this but here we are.   It is so incredibly infuriating to be sitting on my bed, drawing, and he comes up and starts kneading. You KNOW he just here to get his rocks off, so you can only take him off your bed and hope he gets bored and doesn't come back up.   Is there some way I can get him to stop? It's negatively affected the 'friendship' we have considering how no one else knows how to care for a cat. I have to keep my door closed all the time so he doesn't disturb my work.","c_root_id_A":"fp9tsri","c_root_id_B":"fp90qlz","created_at_utc_A":1588434404,"created_at_utc_B":1588409880,"score_A":46,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Thread is derailing. The cat should be checked out by a vet because behavior changes including self stimulation can be indicative of an underlying medical issue. The vomiting is also not normal and requires diagnostics. I understand this is not really your cat, but discuss things like CareCredit with your brother, or consider talking to your parents or another relative about getting the funds to have him seen.","human_ref_B":"It doesn't seem like you're old enough or have the resources to take proper care of your cat right now. If your cat needs to see a vet and you consistently can't afford to take them the only right and humane thing to do would be to take it to a shelter where it can get the proper medical care it needs until someone with the resources to take care of him can adopt him.  I understand you love your cat but if that's the case you need to think outside of what you want and consider what's best for your animal.   Also dont blame yourself your parents shouldn't have let you take on an animal they weren't going to financially contribute to when you're literally dependant on them.   But no one on this sub is going to replace an actual professional who can examine and run test on your pet we can just advise you to get it to care asap.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24524.0,"score_ratio":1.7037037037}
{"post_id":"gc1p2f","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My cat keeps masturbating on my bed and it drives me insane I know that sounds really weird, but it's true. We got him as a kitten from a crackhead that would blow smoke in his face, yes this has caused various problems for him now including; regular freakouts, possibly something like PTSD, bulimia, though that could be unrelated, and, of course, masturbation. He basically just kneads the bed for a while then nuts on my damn sheets (it doesn't smell like piss, so I can only assume it's semen). He's neutured, so I didn't think he'd do this but here we are.   It is so incredibly infuriating to be sitting on my bed, drawing, and he comes up and starts kneading. You KNOW he just here to get his rocks off, so you can only take him off your bed and hope he gets bored and doesn't come back up.   Is there some way I can get him to stop? It's negatively affected the 'friendship' we have considering how no one else knows how to care for a cat. I have to keep my door closed all the time so he doesn't disturb my work.","c_root_id_A":"fp9tsri","c_root_id_B":"fp9kbwv","created_at_utc_A":1588434404,"created_at_utc_B":1588428365,"score_A":46,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Thread is derailing. The cat should be checked out by a vet because behavior changes including self stimulation can be indicative of an underlying medical issue. The vomiting is also not normal and requires diagnostics. I understand this is not really your cat, but discuss things like CareCredit with your brother, or consider talking to your parents or another relative about getting the funds to have him seen.","human_ref_B":"Masterbation is extremely common behavior in male cats. It's very normal, although it can be annoying. Your current approach to it, distraction and moving him from his spot, is a perfect response. Cats don't need punishment, they need to be directed into another activity. However, you should always bring up any concerns to a vet, especially if things seem out of sorts.  There are many, many causes for vomiting in cats. If you truly believe it's due to eating too fast, there was a suggestion for a rock in the comments, and I also suggest feeding him off a plate instead. It forces him to eat smaller bites.  Given the situation, your age, and the ownership of the cat, please try your best to get him to a vet. In my state, the local humane society offers low cost vet care in certain circumstances. It might be worth looking into. Pets are AMAZING companions, but we have a responsibility as their owners to keep them safe and healthy. Good luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6039.0,"score_ratio":1.7037037037}
{"post_id":"mnghrx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat doesn't recognize my other cat after the groomer. :( I have two cats, one is 3 years and the other is a year and a half and has been with us since she was 6 weeks old. Since the day we brought her home, these two cats have been inseparable best friends.  Well yesterday I took the older one to the groomer for the first time ever because he was getting some mats in his fur and I had him bathed and his belly shaved.  When I brought him home, my other cat has been acting like it's a brand new cat - - she's hiding in her safe place on top of the fridge, she won't come down to eat or drink or use the litter box, she won't accept treats, and when I made her come down and face him, she hissed at him and ran away and hid. She's truly acting like we took her \"adoptive dad\" away and brought back a stranger.  How long is it going to take for her to recognize him again? Has anyone dealt with this in their own home?","c_root_id_A":"gtxfoqf","c_root_id_B":"gtxu91r","created_at_utc_A":1617975036,"created_at_utc_B":1617981763,"score_A":46,"score_B":144,"human_ref_A":"Oh no! Silly cats! :)  My guess would be until her scent smells like her again. Your other cat probably recognizes her by her scent moreso than visually. Cats have terrible day sight, they rely much stronger on olfactory and auditive senses.","human_ref_B":"This is a pretty common problem for anyone who owns multiple cats. To your younger cat, the older one smells like a stranger. There are three solutions to this that I've read:  1. Take both cats to the groomer at the same time 2. Find a towel or other object with the older cats scent on it. Rub it all over him 3. Just wait it out. Eventually your cat will shake off the groomer smell  I'm sure there are other solutions, but these are the ones I know","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6727.0,"score_ratio":3.1304347826}
{"post_id":"mnghrx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat doesn't recognize my other cat after the groomer. :( I have two cats, one is 3 years and the other is a year and a half and has been with us since she was 6 weeks old. Since the day we brought her home, these two cats have been inseparable best friends.  Well yesterday I took the older one to the groomer for the first time ever because he was getting some mats in his fur and I had him bathed and his belly shaved.  When I brought him home, my other cat has been acting like it's a brand new cat - - she's hiding in her safe place on top of the fridge, she won't come down to eat or drink or use the litter box, she won't accept treats, and when I made her come down and face him, she hissed at him and ran away and hid. She's truly acting like we took her \"adoptive dad\" away and brought back a stranger.  How long is it going to take for her to recognize him again? Has anyone dealt with this in their own home?","c_root_id_A":"gtxu91r","c_root_id_B":"gtxp8ch","created_at_utc_A":1617981763,"created_at_utc_B":1617979528,"score_A":144,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"This is a pretty common problem for anyone who owns multiple cats. To your younger cat, the older one smells like a stranger. There are three solutions to this that I've read:  1. Take both cats to the groomer at the same time 2. Find a towel or other object with the older cats scent on it. Rub it all over him 3. Just wait it out. Eventually your cat will shake off the groomer smell  I'm sure there are other solutions, but these are the ones I know","human_ref_B":"\\*Not a vet but\\* My two Himalayans would get lion cuts in the summer, and not recognize one another at first and hiss and fight. But generally after a day or two they warm up to each other and start remembering who they are. I wouldn't worry too much, just try to give them both lots of pets and love. Sometimes I would put a clean sock on my hand and pet one of them with it, and then let the other sniff it and pet them with it as well and go back and forth. I think it helps them get used to each others smells again.    Like I said I'm not a vet but this has worked for me in my home. Good luck !","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2235.0,"score_ratio":5.5384615385}
{"post_id":"mnghrx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat doesn't recognize my other cat after the groomer. :( I have two cats, one is 3 years and the other is a year and a half and has been with us since she was 6 weeks old. Since the day we brought her home, these two cats have been inseparable best friends.  Well yesterday I took the older one to the groomer for the first time ever because he was getting some mats in his fur and I had him bathed and his belly shaved.  When I brought him home, my other cat has been acting like it's a brand new cat - - she's hiding in her safe place on top of the fridge, she won't come down to eat or drink or use the litter box, she won't accept treats, and when I made her come down and face him, she hissed at him and ran away and hid. She's truly acting like we took her \"adoptive dad\" away and brought back a stranger.  How long is it going to take for her to recognize him again? Has anyone dealt with this in their own home?","c_root_id_A":"gtzxwoc","c_root_id_B":"gtz2cw4","created_at_utc_A":1618018049,"created_at_utc_B":1618001494,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This is non-recognition aggression and it's super common in 2+ cat households, typically after one cat is in a stressful situation away from the other (the vet, boarding, or in this case, the groomers).   When cats live together, they share a combined \"home team\" scent, made possible by grooming each other and rubbing their glands against each other, as well as shared items in the home. When one cat goes away, the stress hormones released by the away cat cause the cat's scent to change - they no longer have that home team smell. The cat that stayed home is like \"who is this alien cat with this weird smell??\" and gets territorial.  This can be remedied by first separating the cats into different rooms to prevent any aggressive outbreaks, then rubbing a blanket on the home cat, especially on its glands around its face, then taking that same blanket and rubbing it on the away cat. Keep going back and forth between the two, rubbing with the same blanket. You can also rub a little wet food or butter on each of them to get them to groom themselves and increase their scent production. After a few days of continuing to encourage scent exchange, your kitty family should be back to normal. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"Stroke both cat a lot. Concentrate on scent points like paws, chin, neck, etc. basically just transfer the scent s back and forth.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16555.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"mnghrx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat doesn't recognize my other cat after the groomer. :( I have two cats, one is 3 years and the other is a year and a half and has been with us since she was 6 weeks old. Since the day we brought her home, these two cats have been inseparable best friends.  Well yesterday I took the older one to the groomer for the first time ever because he was getting some mats in his fur and I had him bathed and his belly shaved.  When I brought him home, my other cat has been acting like it's a brand new cat - - she's hiding in her safe place on top of the fridge, she won't come down to eat or drink or use the litter box, she won't accept treats, and when I made her come down and face him, she hissed at him and ran away and hid. She's truly acting like we took her \"adoptive dad\" away and brought back a stranger.  How long is it going to take for her to recognize him again? Has anyone dealt with this in their own home?","c_root_id_A":"gtzj9pe","c_root_id_B":"gtzxwoc","created_at_utc_A":1618010044,"created_at_utc_B":1618018049,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but you probably just need to wait it out till the Dad cat smells like himself and not the vet. They rely on thier smell a lot and this isnt uncommon. A good thing to do in the future may take both at once or have a blanket\/ towel thats a fav with the ones your taking smell so you can rub it down them again to help once home.","human_ref_B":"This is non-recognition aggression and it's super common in 2+ cat households, typically after one cat is in a stressful situation away from the other (the vet, boarding, or in this case, the groomers).   When cats live together, they share a combined \"home team\" scent, made possible by grooming each other and rubbing their glands against each other, as well as shared items in the home. When one cat goes away, the stress hormones released by the away cat cause the cat's scent to change - they no longer have that home team smell. The cat that stayed home is like \"who is this alien cat with this weird smell??\" and gets territorial.  This can be remedied by first separating the cats into different rooms to prevent any aggressive outbreaks, then rubbing a blanket on the home cat, especially on its glands around its face, then taking that same blanket and rubbing it on the away cat. Keep going back and forth between the two, rubbing with the same blanket. You can also rub a little wet food or butter on each of them to get them to groom themselves and increase their scent production. After a few days of continuing to encourage scent exchange, your kitty family should be back to normal. Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8005.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"iymwfz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My mom found a baby kitten in a ditch while walking, her tail has no hair on the end and is hard. I\u2019m going to try to take her to the vet tomorrow, but I\u2019m not sure when I\u2019ll be able to get in with this COVID stuff going on. My mom found this little baby by herself in a ditch while she was walking. She looks to be 4 weeks old but I\u2019m no expert. I ran to petco really quick and got her some kitten formula, she was starving. She did eat a little bit of wet kitten food I had left over from my cat as well. She\u2019s napping on me now but I noticed the tip of her tail and I\u2019m worried. It almost looks like it\u2019s dead. Will it be okay or will the vet have to remove it? Any general advice on how to keep her comfortable would be appreciated, too. I\u2019ve had kittens but never this small.   Tail: https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/8O4Lnkr.jpg  Baby: https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/sYtchK1.jpg","c_root_id_A":"g6e6pe2","c_root_id_B":"g6e1l3b","created_at_utc_A":1600925854,"created_at_utc_B":1600921734,"score_A":21,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"My boyfriend had the same thing happen to his kitties tail when he found her outside. It was ringworm and it looked exactly like your picture! Let me know what vet says :)","human_ref_B":"Looks about 5-6 weeks old.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4120.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"j22j1n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is very, very aggressive... in only one room in the house. What in the hell is going on? So my cat is generally very friendly and loving. We\u2019ll play and he\u2019ll bite lightly now and again, nothing that hurts. But in the bathroom he becomes a goddamn maniac. He\u2019ll claw up the wall, he bites very hard using a lot of force and clamping his jaw, his claws come out, and he pounces. I was just sitting on the throne browsing Reddit and he pounced at my phone.   What the hell is going on? Why does he become a lunatic in the bathroom?","c_root_id_A":"g73meoj","c_root_id_B":"g72wqv1","created_at_utc_A":1601410324,"created_at_utc_B":1601398830,"score_A":57,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Beside a behaviorist visit something in the mean time you can try a Feliway plug in diffuser in your bathroom. When it empty\u2019s don\u2019t forget to unplug it or if it works refill it, as this is how all these types of diffusers can get hot and catch on fire \ud83d\udd25   https:\/\/smile.amazon.com\/Feliway-Classic-Starter-Cats-Diffuser\/dp\/B01AVIIFRA\/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=feliway%2Bdiffuser&qid=1601410372&sprefix=feliway%2B&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWVZNS0RaRUtFV0c4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE4MDUxN0FDWktTNkw1MlRTJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNTU0ODQzMTZGTTJGUlpUUUpEJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1","human_ref_B":"Why do you let him in the bathroom?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11494.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"j22j1n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is very, very aggressive... in only one room in the house. What in the hell is going on? So my cat is generally very friendly and loving. We\u2019ll play and he\u2019ll bite lightly now and again, nothing that hurts. But in the bathroom he becomes a goddamn maniac. He\u2019ll claw up the wall, he bites very hard using a lot of force and clamping his jaw, his claws come out, and he pounces. I was just sitting on the throne browsing Reddit and he pounced at my phone.   What the hell is going on? Why does he become a lunatic in the bathroom?","c_root_id_A":"g72wqv1","c_root_id_B":"g73pbnm","created_at_utc_A":1601398830,"created_at_utc_B":1601411613,"score_A":30,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Why do you let him in the bathroom?","human_ref_B":"Where is his litter box? Where does he spend the most time? Have an incidents occurred near the bathroom recently? Does he try to get into any room you are in or just the bathroom? Is the bathroom where you might do less than favorite activities with the cat like grooming, bathing, flea treatments?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12783.0,"score_ratio":1.3666666667}
{"post_id":"hsakwn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Putting down Great Dane, need advice Have a 13 year old Great Dane we may be putting down. Mentally, he is in great shape. He still gets excited to see us and he eats plenty of food and drinks plenty of water, although he sleeps more now than he ever did (some of which may be a result of medication).  The issues are primarily mobility and incontinence. He can\u2019t get up on his own and once up he is very wobbly and his back legs drag and \u201cknuckle,\u201d where he walks on the tops of his paws. The inability to get up also makes him completely unable to sleep through the night, as he can\u2019t reposition himself and so he wakes up panting until we notice and can turn him around.   We really can\u2019t leave him alone for too long, otherwise he tries to get up and ends up stuck in the middle of the floor somewhere.  We are having an incredibly hard time - the fact he is mentally so with it is making the decision especially hard. Is it time, or are we prematurely making this decision?","c_root_id_A":"fy9w9j5","c_root_id_B":"fyaha4d","created_at_utc_A":1594921791,"created_at_utc_B":1594931961,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I think it'd depend on if you've discussed any other options with your vet - is there any type of supplement or other medication you could give to possibly help his mobility? Does your vet think this is the end of the road treatment-wise?","human_ref_B":"This is always a tough one, big dogs have a hard time as they age.  Is his getting up a traction problem? Or arthritis problem ?  What meds is he on?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10170.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"hq9uq4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dad in accident, dog avoiding him Sorry if this post isn't what the sub is for, but it's been hard to find a proper dog behavior subreddit that isn't just directly about training a dog to get some helpful answers.   I'm worried about our chocolate lab, Chase. We have had him for around 4 years now and it's estimated that he's about 8 years old, and spent the first half of his life chained up outside and possibly abused. He and my dad are basically best buds.   My dad was in a car accident early Tuesday morning and he's fractured and broken several ribs and  needs to basically do next to nothing so he can heal. He is in enough pain that he frequently moans\/cries out in pain. (He's doing okay though!)   Chase initially ran up  to him excitedly as usual when he came home from the hospital, but  because of my dad's change in behavior he's totally avoiding him and  won't even come up to my dad when he calls. In fact, Chase seems  completely afraid of my dad. He runs into my  bedroom and hides out in there and stuffs himself between my bed and  the wall. I can't tell if he's got doggy depression, or if his potential  history of abuse is causing him to act in this way towards my dad.   It  breaks my heart to see my dad keep mentioning that Chase avoids him,  cause my dad absolutely loves him. He goes to the vet Tuesday but I  wasn't sure if getting some second opinions elsewhere would be helpful.   Thanks in advance","c_root_id_A":"fxwyxft","c_root_id_B":"fxwtlki","created_at_utc_A":1594634298,"created_at_utc_B":1594628770,"score_A":107,"score_B":84,"human_ref_A":"Obligatory not a canine behaviorist, but I\u2019m striving to be one, if that\u2019s any consolation  Sudden loud noises such as yelling can be very scary to dogs (especially those with histories of abuse) so him getting scared when your dad vocalizes his pain makes sense. Since your dad is in pain, I doubt he was as smiley or happy as he usually is when he got back from the hospital. This lack of reciprocation of your dogs excitement might have scared him as well, as it could make your dad seem angry at him. Dog behavior is often very different from our own, so it\u2019s easy for dogs to misunderstand our actions or behavior as negative. Best advice I can give is to try some reward-based training where you try and get him into the same room as your dad. Get his favorite treat and try tempting him to go into the room gradually. This will probably take time for it to stick and for him to associate your dad with a positive thing again, but it\u2019s proven to work with similar situations where a dog is anxious about a situation. Best of luck for your pup, and good job making a vet appointment anyway just to make sure he\u2019s okay medically.","human_ref_B":"Its possible that because of your dads accident, since his body is healing and whatever, he smells \"wrong\" to your dog. Its also possible that this kind of \"wrong\" smells very similar to his past abuser. Thats just my theory though. I'm not a vet but I know dogs have a very sensitive sense of smell and can detect sickness in us humans","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5528.0,"score_ratio":1.2738095238}
{"post_id":"xysqzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea\/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?","c_root_id_A":"iriqdum","c_root_id_B":"irik117","created_at_utc_A":1665240340,"created_at_utc_B":1665236817,"score_A":48,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR\/assistant\/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants\/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.","human_ref_B":"For chronic medications, an exam every 6 months\/blood work is needed.   In the cases where it is absolutely needed and we can\u2019t get the animal in ASAP, we\u2019ll refill enough to get them through until the appointment and make sure an appointment is scheduled. Technically, the last doctor who had seen the pet is the one that has to approve the refills but if absolutely needed, another doctor will review the case and sign off on it (but once again the doctor that has last seen the patient is the one that has to sign off in a non urgent situation).   It changes practice to practice, but if that was my practice with the prevention, we\u2019d allow it to be filled once with no refills, so I think it also changes slightly by practice.  Also, I\u2019ve noticed a lot of human pharmacies just don\u2019t know how to deal with pet meds. Vets don\u2019t have an NPI, they have a DEA number or they can use their license for non controlled substances. CVS is particularly bad I\u2019ve noticed with this and will have to call in. If we call in a prescription and have to leave a VM, we get a lot of calls with us needing to repeat information or if they can\u2019t read the handwriting (this happens with every pharmacy though).   Then you just run into the delays that have nothing to do with the veterinary clinic and just the pharmacy.   There\u2019s a lot of factors that are different from human med and this is just the tip of the iceberg.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3523.0,"score_ratio":1.7777777778}
{"post_id":"xysqzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea\/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?","c_root_id_A":"iriqdum","c_root_id_B":"irikulh","created_at_utc_A":1665240340,"created_at_utc_B":1665237299,"score_A":48,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR\/assistant\/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants\/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.","human_ref_B":"If you do not have a veterinarian client patient relationship with the vet on staff that day it is illegal to refill meds for animals you have not personally examined.   Giving medication like NSAID\u2019s or anticonvulsant (phenobarbital) - just two examples off the top of my head - can cause possible organ damage over time just like in human medicine. Think of it in terms of that when they are wanting an exam and recheck labs before refilling your scripts.   Working at a vet clinic recently we have seen similar changes to online pharmacies like chewy where they are going digital and straying from paper prescriptions. Recently we had someone call who had a fax verification from us but chewy still would not accept it without first verifying with us. Not saying it is their fault just different than what you\u2019re probably used to.   Giving flea\/tick\/Hw prevention without knowing your animal is heart worm negative can actually hurt them. That\u2019s why they want the recheck before refilling this.   Any good vets will not fill all refills at once even if non controlled drugs, this barrs any chance they may have at doing the rechecks necessary to make sure those meds are still safe for your pet in the future. It also is likely illegal to do so.   Just my two cents as a CVT","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3041.0,"score_ratio":9.6}
{"post_id":"xysqzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea\/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?","c_root_id_A":"irimj7b","c_root_id_B":"iriqdum","created_at_utc_A":1665238269,"created_at_utc_B":1665240340,"score_A":5,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"The real answer here is that it is absurd. If you are written a 6 month prescription, you should be able to refill through those 6 months without issue. That is literally how prescriptions are supposed to work. Some vets are better than others.  As an owner of a dog with multiple chronic conditions, the best bet is to find an office that is veterinarian owned so that you get continuity in care. Explain directly to the vet owner why you want 3 or 6 months filled at one time. They are far more likely to work with you. If you get a 6 month prescription at a franchise like VCA and the vet leaves after a month, they will often make you come in and pay 160+ for an exam that you just had 30 days ago.","human_ref_B":"Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR\/assistant\/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants\/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2071.0,"score_ratio":9.6}
{"post_id":"xysqzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea\/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?","c_root_id_A":"irikulh","c_root_id_B":"iriqngu","created_at_utc_A":1665237299,"created_at_utc_B":1665240482,"score_A":5,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"If you do not have a veterinarian client patient relationship with the vet on staff that day it is illegal to refill meds for animals you have not personally examined.   Giving medication like NSAID\u2019s or anticonvulsant (phenobarbital) - just two examples off the top of my head - can cause possible organ damage over time just like in human medicine. Think of it in terms of that when they are wanting an exam and recheck labs before refilling your scripts.   Working at a vet clinic recently we have seen similar changes to online pharmacies like chewy where they are going digital and straying from paper prescriptions. Recently we had someone call who had a fax verification from us but chewy still would not accept it without first verifying with us. Not saying it is their fault just different than what you\u2019re probably used to.   Giving flea\/tick\/Hw prevention without knowing your animal is heart worm negative can actually hurt them. That\u2019s why they want the recheck before refilling this.   Any good vets will not fill all refills at once even if non controlled drugs, this barrs any chance they may have at doing the rechecks necessary to make sure those meds are still safe for your pet in the future. It also is likely illegal to do so.   Just my two cents as a CVT","human_ref_B":"Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3183.0,"score_ratio":5.2}
{"post_id":"xysqzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea\/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?","c_root_id_A":"irimj7b","c_root_id_B":"iriqngu","created_at_utc_A":1665238269,"created_at_utc_B":1665240482,"score_A":5,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"The real answer here is that it is absurd. If you are written a 6 month prescription, you should be able to refill through those 6 months without issue. That is literally how prescriptions are supposed to work. Some vets are better than others.  As an owner of a dog with multiple chronic conditions, the best bet is to find an office that is veterinarian owned so that you get continuity in care. Explain directly to the vet owner why you want 3 or 6 months filled at one time. They are far more likely to work with you. If you get a 6 month prescription at a franchise like VCA and the vet leaves after a month, they will often make you come in and pay 160+ for an exam that you just had 30 days ago.","human_ref_B":"Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2213.0,"score_ratio":5.2}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdlvpl","c_root_id_B":"gsdrgu8","created_at_utc_A":1616814998,"created_at_utc_B":1616818004,"score_A":65,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"They can\u2019t treat the ear infection with antibiotics or something?","human_ref_B":"I would definitely get a second opinion.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3006.0,"score_ratio":1.6769230769}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdnwol","c_root_id_B":"gsdrgu8","created_at_utc_A":1616816057,"created_at_utc_B":1616818004,"score_A":60,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"Have you looked into Care Credit? It's designed specifically for situations like this and the repayments are interest free for a certain amount of time.   You're basically battling between something terminal and something currently treatable.  Personally, I'd take a gamble with it because if it's a tumor you can build a palliative care plan with your vet, or if it's a treatable infection you can get that taken care and have some more years with your buddy.","human_ref_B":"I would definitely get a second opinion.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1947.0,"score_ratio":1.8166666667}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdrgu8","c_root_id_B":"gsdoq78","created_at_utc_A":1616818004,"created_at_utc_B":1616816507,"score_A":109,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"I would definitely get a second opinion.","human_ref_B":"If you do the MRI at least you will have answers. I know it is a big cost but it might be worth it for the peace of mind and being able to come up with an action plan. Sorry for what you are going through and not being able to help more.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1497.0,"score_ratio":3.5161290323}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdoq78","c_root_id_B":"gsdtvwm","created_at_utc_A":1616816507,"created_at_utc_B":1616819308,"score_A":31,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"If you do the MRI at least you will have answers. I know it is a big cost but it might be worth it for the peace of mind and being able to come up with an action plan. Sorry for what you are going through and not being able to help more.","human_ref_B":"Agree with the comment about care credit. I personally think it is worth it IF the dog is a good anesthetic candidate. Some brain tumors are also rescectable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2801.0,"score_ratio":1.3548387097}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdx9gi","c_root_id_B":"gsdoq78","created_at_utc_A":1616821457,"created_at_utc_B":1616816507,"score_A":36,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"How long has your dog shown these signs?  Second opinion or propose to try conservative treatment before attempting advanced diagnostics and surgery.","human_ref_B":"If you do the MRI at least you will have answers. I know it is a big cost but it might be worth it for the peace of mind and being able to come up with an action plan. Sorry for what you are going through and not being able to help more.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4950.0,"score_ratio":1.1612903226}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsdx9gi","c_root_id_B":"gsdv3a7","created_at_utc_A":1616821457,"created_at_utc_B":1616820161,"score_A":36,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"How long has your dog shown these signs?  Second opinion or propose to try conservative treatment before attempting advanced diagnostics and surgery.","human_ref_B":"See whether your vet will give you a Care Credit: https:\/\/www.carecredit.com\/vetmed\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1296.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse0wr9","c_root_id_B":"gsdoq78","created_at_utc_A":1616823321,"created_at_utc_B":1616816507,"score_A":35,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"I however many say CareCredit too. They're so good with payments. 18 months on larger things, no interest. You may also check into a veterinary school if possible. Their rates are usually less expensive than a true speciality service because they're learning.","human_ref_B":"If you do the MRI at least you will have answers. I know it is a big cost but it might be worth it for the peace of mind and being able to come up with an action plan. Sorry for what you are going through and not being able to help more.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6814.0,"score_ratio":1.1290322581}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse0wr9","c_root_id_B":"gsdv3a7","created_at_utc_A":1616823321,"created_at_utc_B":1616820161,"score_A":35,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I however many say CareCredit too. They're so good with payments. 18 months on larger things, no interest. You may also check into a veterinary school if possible. Their rates are usually less expensive than a true speciality service because they're learning.","human_ref_B":"See whether your vet will give you a Care Credit: https:\/\/www.carecredit.com\/vetmed\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3160.0,"score_ratio":4.375}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse2zla","c_root_id_B":"gsdv3a7","created_at_utc_A":1616824385,"created_at_utc_B":1616820161,"score_A":23,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Also try the veterinary school clinics near you (if there are any).","human_ref_B":"See whether your vet will give you a Care Credit: https:\/\/www.carecredit.com\/vetmed\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4224.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse2zla","c_root_id_B":"gse1lw8","created_at_utc_A":1616824385,"created_at_utc_B":1616823659,"score_A":23,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Also try the veterinary school clinics near you (if there are any).","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d call other hospitals in the area that offer MRIs and get quotes on it. That seems a little bit on the high side, of course it does depend on where you live but I feel you could get the scan part at least down to about $1500. The surgery is probably pretty expensive if it comes to that though.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":726.0,"score_ratio":5.75}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse1lw8","c_root_id_B":"gsg0hc9","created_at_utc_A":1616823659,"created_at_utc_B":1616851290,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d call other hospitals in the area that offer MRIs and get quotes on it. That seems a little bit on the high side, of course it does depend on where you live but I feel you could get the scan part at least down to about $1500. The surgery is probably pretty expensive if it comes to that though.","human_ref_B":"Bow Wow Buddies Foundation has a grant that individuals can apply for to help cover medical costs up to 2,500. It may be worth looking into if you decide to go with the MRI.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27631.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gse5gpy","c_root_id_B":"gsg0hc9","created_at_utc_A":1616825929,"created_at_utc_B":1616851290,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Ask about financing. That is a very average MRI price but even if they find anything you\u2019ll have additional ongoing expenses for whatever treatments or medications.","human_ref_B":"Bow Wow Buddies Foundation has a grant that individuals can apply for to help cover medical costs up to 2,500. It may be worth looking into if you decide to go with the MRI.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25361.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsg5ewq","c_root_id_B":"gsi9pi4","created_at_utc_A":1616852933,"created_at_utc_B":1616878573,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My comments here get removed quite a bit, so please think about getting a second opinion. Of course you need to follow your vets\u2019 advice, but it doesn\u2019t hurt to get a second opinion if you have the time to do so and this procedure isn\u2019t time sensitive. A second opinion can sometimes put you in connection with a professional who knows about the situation you\u2019re in based on experience. Please, look up vet schools in your area that have clinics. Some of the best places you can go are these, usually less expensive and may have other options. It isn\u2019t always so cut and dry as far as your options are concerned that some vets will say.   Of course, please stay strong and remain positive. You will get through this.","human_ref_B":"Without knowing the diagnosis it is very challenging to choose an appropriate next step or treatment plan. Both potential diagnosis you have mentioned have very different treatment options and long term outcomes. Dogs are very skilled at hiding signs of pain and discomfort and diagnostic imaging often provides greater insight into underlying issues that we cannot see otherwise.   Something to keep in mind, unlike people, veterinary professionals tell dogs to stay perfectly still while we run an MRI. MRI diagnostic imaging is typically performed under general anesthesia. The cost of anesthetics, equipment, and highly trained technicians is often included in the estimated cost for imaging. You also want to ensure that the images are reviewed by a well trained board certified radiologist.   Best of luck to you and your dog. When it is all said and done, there are no wrong choices.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25640.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gsi9pi4","c_root_id_B":"gsg864a","created_at_utc_A":1616878573,"created_at_utc_B":1616854077,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Without knowing the diagnosis it is very challenging to choose an appropriate next step or treatment plan. Both potential diagnosis you have mentioned have very different treatment options and long term outcomes. Dogs are very skilled at hiding signs of pain and discomfort and diagnostic imaging often provides greater insight into underlying issues that we cannot see otherwise.   Something to keep in mind, unlike people, veterinary professionals tell dogs to stay perfectly still while we run an MRI. MRI diagnostic imaging is typically performed under general anesthesia. The cost of anesthetics, equipment, and highly trained technicians is often included in the estimated cost for imaging. You also want to ensure that the images are reviewed by a well trained board certified radiologist.   Best of luck to you and your dog. When it is all said and done, there are no wrong choices.","human_ref_B":"I echo the others here - get a second opinion and use Care Credit for the costs. It's helped me with my vet bills and I'm so glad I did it. It's easy to use & interest free for a while.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24496.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"me4smx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog has either a brain tumor or a middle ear infection but the price to find out is $2,200. I don't know what to do. **I'm not looking for money so please don't offer. I just want to talk things out.**   My 6 y\/o full-blood male Doberman started tipping his head over and becoming wobbly. We took him to a specialist and had blood work done. That all came back with no signs of anything so my specialist said he either has a brain tumor or middle ear infection. Both of these require an MRI to diagnose which costs $2,200.   If it's a brain tumor there is nothing we can do. If it's an infection they said antibiotics wouldn't work and surgery would be required to drain the infection costing an additional $1,300. So I'm looking at $2,200 to know it's a tumor and have no options or $3,500 to drain an infection.   The only other option is to wait it out. There is a chance he could have plateaued and any infection could be walled off. He is an otherwise perfectly healthy dog. He doesn't seem to be in pain except he gets the occasional sharp pain maybe once a week making him yelp. His life isn't altered much other than slight wobbling from time to time and an occasional yelp. I still take him out to play ball and he acts perfectly normal.   I have my stimulus money so I *could* pay for it, but we aren't really flooded with cash and this is a huge purchase for us. Does anybody here have any insight or experience with this? He is such a good, loyal dog but I'm so undecided.","c_root_id_A":"gshir3g","c_root_id_B":"gsi9pi4","created_at_utc_A":1616868992,"created_at_utc_B":1616878573,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Definitely get a second opinion. This happened to my friends dog and they were able to treat with antibiotics.","human_ref_B":"Without knowing the diagnosis it is very challenging to choose an appropriate next step or treatment plan. Both potential diagnosis you have mentioned have very different treatment options and long term outcomes. Dogs are very skilled at hiding signs of pain and discomfort and diagnostic imaging often provides greater insight into underlying issues that we cannot see otherwise.   Something to keep in mind, unlike people, veterinary professionals tell dogs to stay perfectly still while we run an MRI. MRI diagnostic imaging is typically performed under general anesthesia. The cost of anesthetics, equipment, and highly trained technicians is often included in the estimated cost for imaging. You also want to ensure that the images are reviewed by a well trained board certified radiologist.   Best of luck to you and your dog. When it is all said and done, there are no wrong choices.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9581.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xqpl15","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog euthanized with out sedation This morning my 18 year old cocker spaniel was injected in the heart with euthanasia while not being sedated. (the doctors reason for this was because she said she couldn\u2019t inject the vein because she \u201cthinks\u201d his blood pressure was probably low. She didn\u2019t even test his blood pressure!!  My poor baby felt the pain of the needle while she tried to inject him straight in the heart. The green liquid of euthanasia then wouldn\u2019t go into his body, so she pulled the needle out and my poor baby was in pain. She then walked out and walked in with a yellow liquid of sedation, she injected him and within 5 mins his heart stopped beating. We believe he died of the needle puncture to the heart and not the sedation. Im so sad, the whole thing was traumatic, was is right to inject the heart with out being sedated? My sweet boy did not deserve this.","c_root_id_A":"iqbgu69","c_root_id_B":"iqaql5f","created_at_utc_A":1664417901,"created_at_utc_B":1664405909,"score_A":240,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Previous vet tech. Reach out to the management of that office and advise them of what happened. I would also file a report against them.... theres nothing that I can say you make you feel better but that Is not right at all what that vet did...","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to experience the passing of your boy in such a traumatic way! That is something nobody I know in the veterinary community would ever want someone to go through. I could tell you that it wasn\u2019t the right thing to do, that the vet was wrong to inject the euthanol in his heart with no sedation, but fact is I was not there and I have no idea what circumstances led to that decision. I would think at the very least they would give him inhaled anesthetic if no veins available. But \u201cwhat if\u2019s\u201d will not make you feel better about the passing of your pup. What is important now is that he feels no pain and will be waiting for you across the rainbow bridge. Know that he knew you loved him to the very end, and still do. And maybe don\u2019t go back to that vet if you have other animals.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11992.0,"score_ratio":2.7586206897}
{"post_id":"xqpl15","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog euthanized with out sedation This morning my 18 year old cocker spaniel was injected in the heart with euthanasia while not being sedated. (the doctors reason for this was because she said she couldn\u2019t inject the vein because she \u201cthinks\u201d his blood pressure was probably low. She didn\u2019t even test his blood pressure!!  My poor baby felt the pain of the needle while she tried to inject him straight in the heart. The green liquid of euthanasia then wouldn\u2019t go into his body, so she pulled the needle out and my poor baby was in pain. She then walked out and walked in with a yellow liquid of sedation, she injected him and within 5 mins his heart stopped beating. We believe he died of the needle puncture to the heart and not the sedation. Im so sad, the whole thing was traumatic, was is right to inject the heart with out being sedated? My sweet boy did not deserve this.","c_root_id_A":"iqcjguf","c_root_id_B":"iqdw98a","created_at_utc_A":1664445072,"created_at_utc_B":1664469479,"score_A":20,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"This doesn\u2019t really make sense. At all. If it\u2019s true, and I mean if, it doesn\u2019t make sense from a medical standpoint.","human_ref_B":"It is against AVMA standards to perform a cardiac injection without complete anesthesia. So if a pet is in anyway conscious, a heart stick is inappropriate.  I'm so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24407.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"xqpl15","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog euthanized with out sedation This morning my 18 year old cocker spaniel was injected in the heart with euthanasia while not being sedated. (the doctors reason for this was because she said she couldn\u2019t inject the vein because she \u201cthinks\u201d his blood pressure was probably low. She didn\u2019t even test his blood pressure!!  My poor baby felt the pain of the needle while she tried to inject him straight in the heart. The green liquid of euthanasia then wouldn\u2019t go into his body, so she pulled the needle out and my poor baby was in pain. She then walked out and walked in with a yellow liquid of sedation, she injected him and within 5 mins his heart stopped beating. We believe he died of the needle puncture to the heart and not the sedation. Im so sad, the whole thing was traumatic, was is right to inject the heart with out being sedated? My sweet boy did not deserve this.","c_root_id_A":"iqdnzk2","c_root_id_B":"iqdw98a","created_at_utc_A":1664466181,"created_at_utc_B":1664469479,"score_A":7,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"All I can think about is that vet might have wanted to get it done quickly, which is not ok","human_ref_B":"It is against AVMA standards to perform a cardiac injection without complete anesthesia. So if a pet is in anyway conscious, a heart stick is inappropriate.  I'm so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3298.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"hsy279","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog fell and is now having tremors. My dog fell from the second story of our house yesterday, around 10 feet or so. There was so much blood coming from his nose and mouth. However, he was conscious and had no signs of fracture. Still, we rushed him straight to his usual vet.  The vet let him walk and palpated for fractures. Also checked his mouth, and saw that 2 of his teeth were lost and one is loose, contributing to the bleeding. He seemed to be fine so the vet just told us to give him cold water and keep him relaxed.  Everything changed today when he started walking anxiously. He also has these tremors that he can't seem to control from time to time. He's hesitant to move around and is easily frightened by sounds or sharp movement. He's also not at all active like his normal self.  I have no idea if this is somehow due to the trauma, kind of like PTSD, or due to the pain, or if it's something more serious involving his brain. I'm worried sick, and tearing up because of the tremors and his fear of almost everything. What should I do? Hoping someone here can help.","c_root_id_A":"fydd4rw","c_root_id_B":"fyddxme","created_at_utc_A":1595001694,"created_at_utc_B":1595002094,"score_A":68,"score_B":161,"human_ref_A":"Call any vet. They understand animal physiology very well. Again, call any vet!","human_ref_B":"These are all pain responses and I would absolutely bring him back to the vet","labels":0,"seconds_difference":400.0,"score_ratio":2.3676470588}
{"post_id":"jtnuav","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My girl can\u2019t poop and I\u2019m breaking Alice (9, rescue pup. She looks kinda Shepardy\/Carolina Dingo, 55lbs)  This problem has been brewing for awhile but it\u2019s become a major concern. She can\u2019t poop. She has the poop in her, but it gets blocked and she squats and squats and squats and can\u2019t get anything out. Maybe some bloody liquid. Then she\u2019ll start vomiting from straining herself so hard  The vet doesn\u2019t have any great theories and we have an appointment next week with an \u201cinternal medicine vet\u201d who will maybe do an ultrasound\/scope her butt?  We\u2019ve tried changing her food\/adding pumpkin fiber\/stool softeners everything. Her \u201cbad days\u201d are getting closer and closer together. I\u2019m sitting with her now in tears we haven\u2019t been able to poop for 2 days....  Once she gets the holdup out the rest of her poop comes shooting out. Something blocks her  from getting the flow started. We are a wreck","c_root_id_A":"gc839ia","c_root_id_B":"gc7ut9f","created_at_utc_A":1605327308,"created_at_utc_B":1605321643,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"The internal medicine specialist and abdominal ultrasound seems like the next best course of action. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"How is she?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5665.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"j1aqfx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is there a chance I killed my dog? Our beautiful 4 year old hound mix, Marley (spayed female), was with us for just 6 months before we had to put her down. I'm beating myself up over the sequence of events and thoughts that I could have done something more.   About a week after we adopted her, she got a really weird eye infection where her entire left eye was swollen to the point of bulging out of her head. Shortly after that cleared up with steroid drops, she developed neck pain that lowered her activity level, prevented her from taking stairs, and made bending down to her food bowl painful. Then it was disorientation and ataxia - she started stumbling around and completely falling down any number of stairs.   Her vet put her on a heavy round of steroids to try to combat whatever was going on. The vet believed it was either meningitis or a brain tumor, but we were unable to afford an MRI to get a true diagnosis. She improved slightly taking 4 pills a day (2 in AM, 2 at night. I don't remember the mg). After 10 days of 4 pills a day, she started having tremors and constant panting. It was time to start dropping the steroid dose, so we switched to just 1 pill a day.   One day after switching to 1 pill, her tremors and panting were extreme. I took her to the vet and they recommended going back to 2x twice a day. Marley took her AM pills well that morning, but by dinner time, she had deteriorated terribly. Heavy panting, slow movements, awful tremors, even more disoriented, unresponsive, and not eating. She did not take her night steroid dose that night before we rushed her to the emergency vet. She was in the process of dying.   I miss her so much and I'm kicking myself thinking I shouldn't have decreased her steroids so quickly. Could I have exacerbated her condition? Could her behavior have just been steroid withdrawal and could have been treated rather than putting her down?","c_root_id_A":"g6y2d40","c_root_id_B":"g6y6x7y","created_at_utc_A":1601296497,"created_at_utc_B":1601299620,"score_A":77,"score_B":198,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet:   I don't think you should blame yourself though, you did as you were advised by your vet and for whatever reason something wasn't working, either the pills or lack of pills or something else entirely.  Try not to be so hard on yourself, you did all you could and what you thought was best!   My only thought would be that if you ever have another dog, if you can afford it, insurance is very useful: Petplan is particularly good and some vets speak directly with the insurance company so you don't have to pay all the bills up front and then claim it back from the company (ease the stress of an already stressful situation and you get the treatment your buddy needs immediately)","human_ref_B":"We can never know if we had tried something different whether the results would have been better or worse. It is easy to kick ourselves, but hard to accept that all we can do is make the best decisions possible with the information we have at the time. Remember that you acted to spare her pain and suffering.      I am sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3123.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"ac7scf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 9 year old bird laid an egg and we don\u2019t know what to do Hello,  My 9 year old bird recently and randomly had an egg. We thought she was a boy since yesterday so it was quite a suprise. We don\u2019t have experience with this, and although she isn\u2019t bleeding, I\u2019m still worried. It\u2019s been a day. We gave her a shower to clean her up and put a heat lamp on her so she wouldn\u2019t go into shock (vet\u2019s orders). She likes to bathe herself in her water bowl when we clean the house and I noticed she had bruising and swelling.    http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/JDfishq   Is she egg binded? Is she okay or is she sick and needs more medical attention? I\u2019m really nervous so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!","c_root_id_A":"ed6iejf","c_root_id_B":"ed7b5no","created_at_utc_A":1546553194,"created_at_utc_B":1546576882,"score_A":8,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Is the egg fertilized?","human_ref_B":"She's going to be a hormonal mess in the next few weeks. Keep up her food and water intake. My Eclectus girl ate and drank like she never had food and water before. Also try and keep up her calcium as much as possible with calcium rich foods like spinach and other green leafies. If she doesn't eat this, try shred it finely and mix it with other food. If it still doesn't work, get some calcium powder and add it to her food once or twice a week. Try not to stimulate her too much either. There's a good chance that she's laid once, so she's gonna do it again. Ripping up paper or cardboard or anything I'd a sign of nesting. Also don't pet her on the back, that's a sign of er... \"Love\" in birds when they mate.  If she seems abnormal in any other way take her back to the vet asap (preferably avian).  Other than that, hope she feels better real soon :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23688.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"ac7scf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 9 year old bird laid an egg and we don\u2019t know what to do Hello,  My 9 year old bird recently and randomly had an egg. We thought she was a boy since yesterday so it was quite a suprise. We don\u2019t have experience with this, and although she isn\u2019t bleeding, I\u2019m still worried. It\u2019s been a day. We gave her a shower to clean her up and put a heat lamp on her so she wouldn\u2019t go into shock (vet\u2019s orders). She likes to bathe herself in her water bowl when we clean the house and I noticed she had bruising and swelling.    http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/JDfishq   Is she egg binded? Is she okay or is she sick and needs more medical attention? I\u2019m really nervous so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!","c_root_id_A":"ed7b5no","c_root_id_B":"ed718gg","created_at_utc_A":1546576882,"created_at_utc_B":1546568075,"score_A":18,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"She's going to be a hormonal mess in the next few weeks. Keep up her food and water intake. My Eclectus girl ate and drank like she never had food and water before. Also try and keep up her calcium as much as possible with calcium rich foods like spinach and other green leafies. If she doesn't eat this, try shred it finely and mix it with other food. If it still doesn't work, get some calcium powder and add it to her food once or twice a week. Try not to stimulate her too much either. There's a good chance that she's laid once, so she's gonna do it again. Ripping up paper or cardboard or anything I'd a sign of nesting. Also don't pet her on the back, that's a sign of er... \"Love\" in birds when they mate.  If she seems abnormal in any other way take her back to the vet asap (preferably avian).  Other than that, hope she feels better real soon :)","human_ref_B":"Glad she's okay \u2764\ufe0f what a sweet little Goffin!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8807.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"9xg4s8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is blind a day after his neuter. Vets don't know the cause. Has anyone had a similar experience before or can provide advice? Really need help...please.  tldr: My dog woke up blind the day after his neuter. Clinic only cared to know that it's not their fault. Blood work came back clean. Eye specialist can't draw conclusion. Option to spend 3-4K to remove eyes or put dog down.  &#x200B;  This began Wednesday Nov 7th at 9am, we took our dog Boomer(almost 2 years old) to the vet in Calgary for a neuter. This was the same vet we took our older dog Ghengis(2.5 years old) to for his neuter 6 months ago. He was give his first shot of anesthesia? and then we went outside to walk around a bit until the drug kicked in. We brought him to the back and left them in their care. Boomer was picked up around 2pm. He seemed alright, slow moving but we figured it was the after effects of the surgery. Later on in the evening he was pawing at his eye somewhat but didn't think much of it since it's not too unusual for a dog.  On Thursday Nov 8th, my girlfriend noticed around 9am that he wasn't really opening his eye when she called for him. Though he usually sleeps in til later anyways. Around 11:30 she wanted to take him for his walk and thats when she noticed his blue-ish eye colour. We carried him to a well lit room and saw his eyes were completely clouded! We freaked out as we see he's walking into things.  We called the vet immediately and they didn't answer 8 times. We decided to just drive over there immediately and see what they say about it. We arrived and the receptionist was shocked and said they were busy and that's why they couldn't answer the phone but then she answers one \"is this an emergency or can you hold.\" Immediate red flag to how they are running things. She then went to the back and grabbed the surgeon who performed the neuter. This was the most frustrating part since the first 5 mins he talked, he just asked us questions such as \"He was fine when he left here right? Are you sure this didn't happen before the surgery? There's no way it could have happened here. There are thousands of neuters in Calgary and I've never seen this happen.\" He was just trying to wash his hands of all this and can see he didn't want any part of it. He looked at the eye a bit, shined light into Boomer's eye and then said he's not an eye specialist so he couldn't tell us what's wrong or why it happened but it definitely wasn't him. He recommended a vet hospital that had an dog eye specialist, ophthalmologist.  We went there right after and the nurses took us in, only waited for a little bit before we had the person before the specialist come do a early diagnosis of what is going on. We find out that the ophthalmologist is in surgery for the day so it would be about a few hours before he would get to take a look. We were told to leave Boomer there until he can be seen. We had to pay a minimum deposit of $350 and then left. We received a call about 3-4 hours later and saw the ophthalmologist immediately. He told that Boomer has uvetis. Really bad inflammation in the eyes, causing the cloudiness. The high scale of a dog's eyes is 25...Boomer's were 60 and 70. His retina and everything behind the eye was still good and there's a possibility he could get his vision back. He said we should do blood work so we can find out what the cause of this would be. In the mean time he prescribed some medication for Boomer to take until we see him again on Tuesday Nov 13th.  We got Dorzotimolol, Prednisolone, Meloxicam, Amoxicillin, and Doxycycline. We gave the evening dosage for him since it was already late in the day. We made a chart and kept track of when we give Boomer these meds. We then noticed a big lump on his back, maybe that was swollen from a needle? As the next few days went by, we noticed his eyes were getting droopy, the whites of his eyes were becoming extremely red. By Sunday it became less red, more bluish. We get a early call from the ophthalmologist saying the blood work so far came back clean. So it couldn't be some disease, or cancer, or anything like that. His white blood cell count was really high. Still, no one can draw a conclusion so far. For such a hyper dog, it's heartbreaking to see him just lie there still and not move.  At this point we are lost to what can cause this. HOW DOES A DOG WAKE UP BLIND??? The neuter clinic HASN'T CALLED BACK EVEN ONCE just to check up on Boomer.Especially with those high pressure numbers, it doesn't just instantly happen like that if this was some other sources. We begin speculating and researching as many possibilities as possible. How does Uvetis work, could it have been an over dose of anesthesia? Was there unsanitary equipment that could cause infection?  On Monday Nov 12th we went over to the neuter clinic again and requested for the surgical notes for the neuter as well as paperwork for our first dog's neuter as well to compare. When we asked for these notes, we understand that they just require clearance from the head surgeon before she can release them which is understandable. What didn't make sense is why she took the phone to the back and closed the door so we couldn't hear anything. Just seemed very suspecious.  The other surgeon came out to talked to us. Again just tried to reassured that it's not likely that it happened there.  On Tuesday Nov 13th, my girlfriend took Boomer back to the ophthalmologist to do the follow up. He says Boomer won't be getting his vision back, so he's now permanently blind. He used a needle and took some fluids from the lump on his back and found lots of dead cells, white blood cells and neutricells? Again unable to determine the cause of it. At this point we have no idea what the cause is. The inflammation in Boomer's eye is causing him pain. We are then presented with 2 options. 1) Surgery to remove his eyes, approx $1800\/eye. Hoping that once they remove the eye, they could possibly dissect the eye to try and find a cause. 2) Put him down, he won't be able to continue barring the pain with his eyes. We try to call another clinic but they would require us to pay another $210 just to see them. Again not guarantee if they'll even find anything different.  After a day of trying to research more, looking for second opinions we don't what to do but we need to make a decision soon. Searching online we found many stories of cats and dogs going blind after surgery because of overdose of drugs and what not. After all those tests and specialists not one being able to even say at this time what is the most probable cause, just leaves a bad distaste of vets. The timing is way too coincidental.  So this is my last hope to ask the internet for help. Any advice or opinions from other vets or specialists would be great. Would love to hear if there have been similar situations that people have experienced before.  Pictures and files in link below  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/sIzD5Uv","c_root_id_A":"e9smc8w","c_root_id_B":"e9t3dl1","created_at_utc_A":1542339911,"created_at_utc_B":1542363917,"score_A":18,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"not a vet.  please don\u2019t euthanize.  give him a chance to see if the pain subsides... he will probably get used to his new situation if so.   you should seriously stay on top on the oral steroids. i would also check with the ophthalmologist to see if you can add a topical drop steroid for the eyes for short term on top of the dorzolamide just to really kick the inflammation. it is possible to stabilize (not bring vision back to) the now blind eyes with very aggressive treatment... and if you can (it is difficult and not always possible), then enucleation might not be necessary \u2014 to determine this, i recommend the aggressive treatment and regular pressure checks every week or as often as possible in the immediate term until the numbers drop. try to get these scheduled as follow up appointments to make them cheaper.    hopefully doggie starts perking up as the pressure is relieved.  so sorry this happened to your poor guy.","human_ref_B":"Having a look through all of the datasheets for the drugs used, the only warning I can find is that glycopyrrolate can occasionally cause blurred vision in the human, though this is transient and wears off as the drug is cleared. One of the contraindications of use is in cases of already diagnosed glaucoma, though there was no concern regarding this at the time of presentation (no existing medical conditions or concerns noted on the anaesthetic sheet). if Boomer were my patient I wouldn't have any concern about using any of these drugs for this procedure.  &#x200B;  You mentioned a swelling at the injection site which could be indicative of a hypersensitivity to the drug, but unfortunately there is no way of knowing that prior to administration.  &#x200B;  Glaucoma is a phenomenally painful condition, and needs to be treated one way or another. If the glaucoma was truly caused by the medications used, there was no way of predicting this.  &#x200B;  Sorry you've had to go through all of this. I wish you and Boomer all the best.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24006.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"9xg4s8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is blind a day after his neuter. Vets don't know the cause. Has anyone had a similar experience before or can provide advice? Really need help...please.  tldr: My dog woke up blind the day after his neuter. Clinic only cared to know that it's not their fault. Blood work came back clean. Eye specialist can't draw conclusion. Option to spend 3-4K to remove eyes or put dog down.  &#x200B;  This began Wednesday Nov 7th at 9am, we took our dog Boomer(almost 2 years old) to the vet in Calgary for a neuter. This was the same vet we took our older dog Ghengis(2.5 years old) to for his neuter 6 months ago. He was give his first shot of anesthesia? and then we went outside to walk around a bit until the drug kicked in. We brought him to the back and left them in their care. Boomer was picked up around 2pm. He seemed alright, slow moving but we figured it was the after effects of the surgery. Later on in the evening he was pawing at his eye somewhat but didn't think much of it since it's not too unusual for a dog.  On Thursday Nov 8th, my girlfriend noticed around 9am that he wasn't really opening his eye when she called for him. Though he usually sleeps in til later anyways. Around 11:30 she wanted to take him for his walk and thats when she noticed his blue-ish eye colour. We carried him to a well lit room and saw his eyes were completely clouded! We freaked out as we see he's walking into things.  We called the vet immediately and they didn't answer 8 times. We decided to just drive over there immediately and see what they say about it. We arrived and the receptionist was shocked and said they were busy and that's why they couldn't answer the phone but then she answers one \"is this an emergency or can you hold.\" Immediate red flag to how they are running things. She then went to the back and grabbed the surgeon who performed the neuter. This was the most frustrating part since the first 5 mins he talked, he just asked us questions such as \"He was fine when he left here right? Are you sure this didn't happen before the surgery? There's no way it could have happened here. There are thousands of neuters in Calgary and I've never seen this happen.\" He was just trying to wash his hands of all this and can see he didn't want any part of it. He looked at the eye a bit, shined light into Boomer's eye and then said he's not an eye specialist so he couldn't tell us what's wrong or why it happened but it definitely wasn't him. He recommended a vet hospital that had an dog eye specialist, ophthalmologist.  We went there right after and the nurses took us in, only waited for a little bit before we had the person before the specialist come do a early diagnosis of what is going on. We find out that the ophthalmologist is in surgery for the day so it would be about a few hours before he would get to take a look. We were told to leave Boomer there until he can be seen. We had to pay a minimum deposit of $350 and then left. We received a call about 3-4 hours later and saw the ophthalmologist immediately. He told that Boomer has uvetis. Really bad inflammation in the eyes, causing the cloudiness. The high scale of a dog's eyes is 25...Boomer's were 60 and 70. His retina and everything behind the eye was still good and there's a possibility he could get his vision back. He said we should do blood work so we can find out what the cause of this would be. In the mean time he prescribed some medication for Boomer to take until we see him again on Tuesday Nov 13th.  We got Dorzotimolol, Prednisolone, Meloxicam, Amoxicillin, and Doxycycline. We gave the evening dosage for him since it was already late in the day. We made a chart and kept track of when we give Boomer these meds. We then noticed a big lump on his back, maybe that was swollen from a needle? As the next few days went by, we noticed his eyes were getting droopy, the whites of his eyes were becoming extremely red. By Sunday it became less red, more bluish. We get a early call from the ophthalmologist saying the blood work so far came back clean. So it couldn't be some disease, or cancer, or anything like that. His white blood cell count was really high. Still, no one can draw a conclusion so far. For such a hyper dog, it's heartbreaking to see him just lie there still and not move.  At this point we are lost to what can cause this. HOW DOES A DOG WAKE UP BLIND??? The neuter clinic HASN'T CALLED BACK EVEN ONCE just to check up on Boomer.Especially with those high pressure numbers, it doesn't just instantly happen like that if this was some other sources. We begin speculating and researching as many possibilities as possible. How does Uvetis work, could it have been an over dose of anesthesia? Was there unsanitary equipment that could cause infection?  On Monday Nov 12th we went over to the neuter clinic again and requested for the surgical notes for the neuter as well as paperwork for our first dog's neuter as well to compare. When we asked for these notes, we understand that they just require clearance from the head surgeon before she can release them which is understandable. What didn't make sense is why she took the phone to the back and closed the door so we couldn't hear anything. Just seemed very suspecious.  The other surgeon came out to talked to us. Again just tried to reassured that it's not likely that it happened there.  On Tuesday Nov 13th, my girlfriend took Boomer back to the ophthalmologist to do the follow up. He says Boomer won't be getting his vision back, so he's now permanently blind. He used a needle and took some fluids from the lump on his back and found lots of dead cells, white blood cells and neutricells? Again unable to determine the cause of it. At this point we have no idea what the cause is. The inflammation in Boomer's eye is causing him pain. We are then presented with 2 options. 1) Surgery to remove his eyes, approx $1800\/eye. Hoping that once they remove the eye, they could possibly dissect the eye to try and find a cause. 2) Put him down, he won't be able to continue barring the pain with his eyes. We try to call another clinic but they would require us to pay another $210 just to see them. Again not guarantee if they'll even find anything different.  After a day of trying to research more, looking for second opinions we don't what to do but we need to make a decision soon. Searching online we found many stories of cats and dogs going blind after surgery because of overdose of drugs and what not. After all those tests and specialists not one being able to even say at this time what is the most probable cause, just leaves a bad distaste of vets. The timing is way too coincidental.  So this is my last hope to ask the internet for help. Any advice or opinions from other vets or specialists would be great. Would love to hear if there have been similar situations that people have experienced before.  Pictures and files in link below  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/sIzD5Uv","c_root_id_A":"e9ss9le","c_root_id_B":"e9t3dl1","created_at_utc_A":1542346206,"created_at_utc_B":1542363917,"score_A":8,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, really I know nothing! I\u2019m just wondering if he maybe had a problem\/ illness\/ genetics\/ whatever that the stress of the surgery maybe jumpstarted something. Bulldogs are known to have a lot of issues.  Regardless I\u2019m very sorry to hear about your dog. You and your pup are in my thoughts.","human_ref_B":"Having a look through all of the datasheets for the drugs used, the only warning I can find is that glycopyrrolate can occasionally cause blurred vision in the human, though this is transient and wears off as the drug is cleared. One of the contraindications of use is in cases of already diagnosed glaucoma, though there was no concern regarding this at the time of presentation (no existing medical conditions or concerns noted on the anaesthetic sheet). if Boomer were my patient I wouldn't have any concern about using any of these drugs for this procedure.  &#x200B;  You mentioned a swelling at the injection site which could be indicative of a hypersensitivity to the drug, but unfortunately there is no way of knowing that prior to administration.  &#x200B;  Glaucoma is a phenomenally painful condition, and needs to be treated one way or another. If the glaucoma was truly caused by the medications used, there was no way of predicting this.  &#x200B;  Sorry you've had to go through all of this. I wish you and Boomer all the best.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17711.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"qlr0et","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"help! i think my kitten is dying    it\u2019s currently 5 am and my 7 month old kitten has been ramming his head into the wall for the past half hour. he\u2019s breathing really fast and his nose and mouth are dripping profusely. i know this action is called head pressing and that he needs to go to the vet asap but they\u2019re all closed right now.     the vet i take him to opens at 8 am, and the only emergency vet in my area opens at 10am. i have no idea what to do until then. how can i comfort him? or atleast get him to stop before he hurts himself? i\u2019m so scared and can\u2019t stop crying. the more i read about it, the worse the prognosis sounds. please help.","c_root_id_A":"hj7zqri","c_root_id_B":"hj8ijyg","created_at_utc_A":1635985502,"created_at_utc_B":1635993998,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"\u2764","human_ref_B":"That must have been a heart breaking experience. Sending you hugs and love from a fellow animal lover. In the wild this cat would have suffered with nobody caring for it and putting it out of its misery. You did the right thing even if it hurts you. Thank you for haven taken the drive and that your care for this innocent soul.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8496.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"qlr0et","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"help! i think my kitten is dying    it\u2019s currently 5 am and my 7 month old kitten has been ramming his head into the wall for the past half hour. he\u2019s breathing really fast and his nose and mouth are dripping profusely. i know this action is called head pressing and that he needs to go to the vet asap but they\u2019re all closed right now.     the vet i take him to opens at 8 am, and the only emergency vet in my area opens at 10am. i have no idea what to do until then. how can i comfort him? or atleast get him to stop before he hurts himself? i\u2019m so scared and can\u2019t stop crying. the more i read about it, the worse the prognosis sounds. please help.","c_root_id_A":"hj8ijyg","c_root_id_B":"hj8gusb","created_at_utc_A":1635993998,"created_at_utc_B":1635993177,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"That must have been a heart breaking experience. Sending you hugs and love from a fellow animal lover. In the wild this cat would have suffered with nobody caring for it and putting it out of its misery. You did the right thing even if it hurts you. Thank you for haven taken the drive and that your care for this innocent soul.","human_ref_B":"Hugs sorry to hear that...Rip lil one","labels":1,"seconds_difference":821.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"nwuskr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Dental cleaning: Is it normal for a vet to remove most of a cats teeth without asking the owner first? Species: Cat  Age: 13  History: Renal insufficiency, last measured Creatinine 2.48  So I took my cat in today for a dental cleaning expecting that he will have one or two teeth pulled, but when I picked him up it turned out that they removed 10 teeth. He already had 1\/4 of his teeth missing from previous cleanings\/extractions, so now he only has 3 teeth left (fangs).  The vet dentist explained that two teeth were absolutely horrible and x rays showed that there were a few more that also didn't look very good. Initially she was only going to treat the teeth that were diseased, but the anesthesiologist recommended getting rid of all the teeth so that my cat wouldn't have to undergo anesthesia again (due to his kidney issue).  The thing is, the vet didn't call me to ask my permission to perform such a procedure, which, from what I understand is a major operation.   I'm not saying that I would have said no to this, I probably would have agreed because I understand the benefits of such a radical extraction. However, it doesn't sit well with me that they would do this without asking me.  So my question is, is it normal\/standard practice for a vet to go ahead and remove so many teeth without consulting the owner first?","c_root_id_A":"h1cefwc","c_root_id_B":"h1cfieq","created_at_utc_A":1623369602,"created_at_utc_B":1623370164,"score_A":28,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Vet tech here. Every time I check in a dental, I go over that your pet is under anesthesia and as such we cannot call for permission to remove teeth. I also list that some teeth may require X-ray and that may be an additional price.  Also dental disease in cats present as reabsorbing teeth. Basically the roots become diseased and dissolve. If this was the probable cause for the two teeth they may have done is a preventative care.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but a dental hygienist here (and previously a vet assistant). From my perspective the only thing your vet has done wrong here is failed to communicate to properly after the surgery about what happened and their decision making process. Not that that isn't a significant shortcoming, but take comfort in knowing that your vet definately made the right call for your cat's health.   As other people have stated, even \"borderline diseased\" is not healthy, are next to impossible to get back to a healthy state in a cat since you cannot do the daily maintenance care like brushing effectively to maintain them. Those borderline diseased teeth will become more and more diseased and require extraction down the road, which, as you noted, is a risk to your cat with his kidney disease.   What I haven't seen mentioned, that I would like to add, is that diseased teeth will cause issues long before they are due to be extracted. Dental disease (which can range from gingivitis to severe periodontitis) is a chronic infection in your cat's mouth. Think of if he had a cut on his leg that was constantly red and angry looking and not healing - you would be concerned that it wasn't healing and get it addressed. Unfortunately most people don't realize that dental disease is a chronic infection and dismiss the health implications. Chronic infections are hard on the body and impact other organ systems - from contributing the heart disease to worsening kidney disease. Removing the teeth will make it easier for your cat's body to heal\/maintain health and potentially slow the progression of his kidney disease.   I totally understand your frustration at not being kept in the loop during surgery, though as others have stated, time is of the essence when under anesthesia and it is difficult to explain everything thoroughly enough in a timely manner for you to give informed consent over the phone, so under those circumstances the vets have to make a judgement call. I am sorry that your vet didn't give a thorough enough explanation after the fact however, that is something that should have been done so that you could have piece of mind that he got the best care possible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":562.0,"score_ratio":1.1785714286}
{"post_id":"nwuskr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Dental cleaning: Is it normal for a vet to remove most of a cats teeth without asking the owner first? Species: Cat  Age: 13  History: Renal insufficiency, last measured Creatinine 2.48  So I took my cat in today for a dental cleaning expecting that he will have one or two teeth pulled, but when I picked him up it turned out that they removed 10 teeth. He already had 1\/4 of his teeth missing from previous cleanings\/extractions, so now he only has 3 teeth left (fangs).  The vet dentist explained that two teeth were absolutely horrible and x rays showed that there were a few more that also didn't look very good. Initially she was only going to treat the teeth that were diseased, but the anesthesiologist recommended getting rid of all the teeth so that my cat wouldn't have to undergo anesthesia again (due to his kidney issue).  The thing is, the vet didn't call me to ask my permission to perform such a procedure, which, from what I understand is a major operation.   I'm not saying that I would have said no to this, I probably would have agreed because I understand the benefits of such a radical extraction. However, it doesn't sit well with me that they would do this without asking me.  So my question is, is it normal\/standard practice for a vet to go ahead and remove so many teeth without consulting the owner first?","c_root_id_A":"h1cjyx3","c_root_id_B":"h1cveu9","created_at_utc_A":1623372479,"created_at_utc_B":1623378493,"score_A":6,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"It was in your cat\u2019s best interests. They probably did it because no reasonable person would want their pet to keep diseased teeth that can\u2019t just be cleaned. Like if a doctor opened you up for an emergency surgery and noticed your appendix was inflamed and needed to go so they took it without waking you up to get consent, I don\u2019t see anyone arguing with that unless something went wrong.   My dog had to have teeth extracted. It sucks and it\u2019s expensive but she felt (and smelled) much better once she recovered.","human_ref_B":"Did you sign a form when you dropped off? Did you read it..","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6014.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"m85oal","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank you guys for everything you do. I work in a shelter and although that\u2019s not the same as a veterinary setting of course, I do understand the love, heartbreak, often long hours, passion and frustration with customers\/owners that comes with working with animals.  Thank you to all the veterinary staff who work to help animals and dedicate some of their free time to answering questions on Reddit.  Also, shout out to the vet who jump started my car the other day after the battery died during curbside service.  Not sure if this is allowed but I hope so.","c_root_id_A":"grfuoxe","c_root_id_B":"grfkx5o","created_at_utc_A":1616122411,"created_at_utc_B":1616117086,"score_A":29,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Make sure to thank your local vets often. Vets are at increased risk of suicide compared to many professions. Look up NOMV (Not One More Vet).","human_ref_B":">I work in a shelter    No, thank you for what you do. Some of the most rewarding parts of vet school so far have come from working with shelters and spaying\/neutering their dogs\/cats so they can be adopted out easier. I couldn't imagine what the world would be like without shelters (wish we didn't need them obviously..but that's never going to happen realistically).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5325.0,"score_ratio":1.45}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g6462jl","c_root_id_B":"g64d58b","created_at_utc_A":1600704026,"created_at_utc_B":1600707039,"score_A":127,"score_B":196,"human_ref_A":"Noooooooooooo.  Someone correct me if I\u2019m misinformed but this is just neglect\/abuse.","human_ref_B":"Um, no. Fasting is not a legitimate training method. You cannot \u201cfast\u201d a dog as such, since fasting is a conscious choice not to eat. That\u2019s called using starvation as a punishment, which IS abuse. As for fasting for diarrhea, I will sometimes recommend a 24-48 hour fast in cases of severe GI upset. However, more often, I\u2019ll recommend feeding a bland, easily digestible diet. Either way, your friend should only be fasting her dog for medical purposes under the direction of a veterinarian. If her dog is having diarrhea often enough that she has to fast him a lot, there\u2019s probably an undiagnosed underlying condition.  In terms of determining how skinny is too skinny, you should really only be able to see traces of the ribs. They shouldn\u2019t be protruding. There should be a light covering of fat over the rib cage. If this were someone I knew, I would report them for abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3013.0,"score_ratio":1.5433070866}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64c8n4","c_root_id_B":"g64d58b","created_at_utc_A":1600706671,"created_at_utc_B":1600707039,"score_A":108,"score_B":196,"human_ref_A":"I don't even see how fasting could be used as a training method.  Fasting for 48 hours when their dog \"doesn't feel well\" several times a month is not beneficial.  They should not be doing what they are doing","human_ref_B":"Um, no. Fasting is not a legitimate training method. You cannot \u201cfast\u201d a dog as such, since fasting is a conscious choice not to eat. That\u2019s called using starvation as a punishment, which IS abuse. As for fasting for diarrhea, I will sometimes recommend a 24-48 hour fast in cases of severe GI upset. However, more often, I\u2019ll recommend feeding a bland, easily digestible diet. Either way, your friend should only be fasting her dog for medical purposes under the direction of a veterinarian. If her dog is having diarrhea often enough that she has to fast him a lot, there\u2019s probably an undiagnosed underlying condition.  In terms of determining how skinny is too skinny, you should really only be able to see traces of the ribs. They shouldn\u2019t be protruding. There should be a light covering of fat over the rib cage. If this were someone I knew, I would report them for abuse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":368.0,"score_ratio":1.8148148148}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64d58b","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600707039,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":196,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Um, no. Fasting is not a legitimate training method. You cannot \u201cfast\u201d a dog as such, since fasting is a conscious choice not to eat. That\u2019s called using starvation as a punishment, which IS abuse. As for fasting for diarrhea, I will sometimes recommend a 24-48 hour fast in cases of severe GI upset. However, more often, I\u2019ll recommend feeding a bland, easily digestible diet. Either way, your friend should only be fasting her dog for medical purposes under the direction of a veterinarian. If her dog is having diarrhea often enough that she has to fast him a lot, there\u2019s probably an undiagnosed underlying condition.  In terms of determining how skinny is too skinny, you should really only be able to see traces of the ribs. They shouldn\u2019t be protruding. There should be a light covering of fat over the rib cage. If this were someone I knew, I would report them for abuse.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1034.0,"score_ratio":39.2}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64c8n4","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600706671,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":108,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I don't even see how fasting could be used as a training method.  Fasting for 48 hours when their dog \"doesn't feel well\" several times a month is not beneficial.  They should not be doing what they are doing","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":666.0,"score_ratio":21.6}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64flps","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600708076,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":63,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Research shows that maintaining feedings even through GI distress is important for maintaining GI health and helping with recovery so there is no reason that I can think of to starve a dog for even 24 hours, much less 48.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2071.0,"score_ratio":12.6}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64gjba","c_root_id_B":"g64kmec","created_at_utc_A":1600708469,"created_at_utc_B":1600710083,"score_A":26,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet But this isn't training its cruelty. Please call your animal welfare team in that area. Poor dog.","human_ref_B":"PLEASE REPORT THEM + Other friend who is doing the same \u201cTraininng method\u201d. I\u2019m not a vet but I know that\u2019s not a proper way to go about things. ANYONE who is intentionally starving a dog in that manner needs their animals taken away. This hurts to read as I\u2019m sitting here cuddling with my chunk of love pit bull. Your friends is terrible, this is abusive to the animal. Your are 100% right about the dogs ribs, you should be able to see the dogs ribs but only an small outline, being able to see individual ribs is a big No No and sign that the animal isn\u2019t getting proper nourishment. PLEASE try to report their other friend who does the same so that their dogs \u201cAre more willing to listen to them\u201d Bc that\u2019s FUCKED UP. That\u2019s sick. I\u2019m sorry to put it so blatantly but it\u2019s disgusting. I\u2019m sorry you even have to deal with this and I hope all those animals are okay soon. REPORT THEM PLEASE!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1614.0,"score_ratio":1.6538461538}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64kmec","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600710083,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":43,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"PLEASE REPORT THEM + Other friend who is doing the same \u201cTraininng method\u201d. I\u2019m not a vet but I know that\u2019s not a proper way to go about things. ANYONE who is intentionally starving a dog in that manner needs their animals taken away. This hurts to read as I\u2019m sitting here cuddling with my chunk of love pit bull. Your friends is terrible, this is abusive to the animal. Your are 100% right about the dogs ribs, you should be able to see the dogs ribs but only an small outline, being able to see individual ribs is a big No No and sign that the animal isn\u2019t getting proper nourishment. PLEASE try to report their other friend who does the same so that their dogs \u201cAre more willing to listen to them\u201d Bc that\u2019s FUCKED UP. That\u2019s sick. I\u2019m sorry to put it so blatantly but it\u2019s disgusting. I\u2019m sorry you even have to deal with this and I hope all those animals are okay soon. REPORT THEM PLEASE!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4078.0,"score_ratio":8.6}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64aoxl","c_root_id_B":"g64gjba","created_at_utc_A":1600706005,"created_at_utc_B":1600708469,"score_A":5,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet But this isn't training its cruelty. Please call your animal welfare team in that area. Poor dog.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2464.0,"score_ratio":5.2}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64zqv0","c_root_id_B":"g64lw2n","created_at_utc_A":1600716353,"created_at_utc_B":1600710606,"score_A":21,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Also Not a vet, but I'm pretty sure the only thing this *is* a training method for is dog fighting.","human_ref_B":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5747.0,"score_ratio":2.625}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64zqv0","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600716353,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":21,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Also Not a vet, but I'm pretty sure the only thing this *is* a training method for is dog fighting.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10348.0,"score_ratio":4.2}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g658afw","c_root_id_B":"g65fswd","created_at_utc_A":1600720494,"created_at_utc_B":1600723653,"score_A":17,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Please call anima control, your \u201cfriend\u201d is a sick fuck. As if pit bulls don\u2019t go through enough as it is ffs","human_ref_B":"You should call animal control. Also is he trying to use the dog for fighting? The sickos that fight dogs will commonly starve them to get them to fight for food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3159.0,"score_ratio":1.1176470588}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64lw2n","c_root_id_B":"g65fswd","created_at_utc_A":1600710606,"created_at_utc_B":1600723653,"score_A":8,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","human_ref_B":"You should call animal control. Also is he trying to use the dog for fighting? The sickos that fight dogs will commonly starve them to get them to fight for food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13047.0,"score_ratio":2.375}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64aoxl","c_root_id_B":"g65fswd","created_at_utc_A":1600706005,"created_at_utc_B":1600723653,"score_A":5,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","human_ref_B":"You should call animal control. Also is he trying to use the dog for fighting? The sickos that fight dogs will commonly starve them to get them to fight for food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17648.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g658afw","c_root_id_B":"g64lw2n","created_at_utc_A":1600720494,"created_at_utc_B":1600710606,"score_A":17,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Please call anima control, your \u201cfriend\u201d is a sick fuck. As if pit bulls don\u2019t go through enough as it is ffs","human_ref_B":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9888.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g658afw","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600720494,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":17,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Please call anima control, your \u201cfriend\u201d is a sick fuck. As if pit bulls don\u2019t go through enough as it is ffs","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14489.0,"score_ratio":3.4}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64lw2n","c_root_id_B":"g65gwa9","created_at_utc_A":1600710606,"created_at_utc_B":1600724112,"score_A":8,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","human_ref_B":"Trust your gut....and these people here saying call animal control, because my gut is saying call animal control.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13506.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64aoxl","c_root_id_B":"g65gwa9","created_at_utc_A":1600706005,"created_at_utc_B":1600724112,"score_A":5,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","human_ref_B":"Trust your gut....and these people here saying call animal control, because my gut is saying call animal control.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18107.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g65mwgg","c_root_id_B":"g64lw2n","created_at_utc_A":1600726943,"created_at_utc_B":1600710606,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"NVA Please go with your gut feeling.. report her so all her animals are not \u201ctrained\u201d this way. As a pitbull mom it makes me sick and heart broken.","human_ref_B":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16337.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g65mwgg","c_root_id_B":"g64aoxl","created_at_utc_A":1600726943,"created_at_utc_B":1600706005,"score_A":12,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"NVA Please go with your gut feeling.. report her so all her animals are not \u201ctrained\u201d this way. As a pitbull mom it makes me sick and heart broken.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20938.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"ix2p53","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I\u2019m looking for trustworthy answers regarding a friend\u2019s pet I have a friend who has multiple pets and I\u2019m concerned about the dogs specifically.  For the specific purpose of this post I want to talk about the pit bull, age one, male.  For months now, if not longer, this friend has used fasting as a training method. I don\u2019t even know if that\u2019s a real thing or not, my friend has a trainer friend who uses the same method and says it\u2019s legitimate.   I now have an additional concern however... my friend has also started fasting the dogs whenever they have diarrhea or \u201cdon\u2019t feel well.\u201d When this happens the dogs are put on a 48-hour fast to reset their system. This has happened multiple times with both dogs over the last month.   I know... or at least have been told by many many pet owners... that a sudden change in diet can actually CAUSE problems like diarrhea. And so I\u2019m wondering if being fed after going a day or two at a time without on a regular basis could be considered a sudden diet change that may cause something like this.   I don\u2019t know the pit\u2019s weight, but we became concerned yesterday pulling him out of the kennel he was in and seeing that we could fairly obviously see his ribs. I also don\u2019t know for sure if THAT is normal but from what looking into it I did, it seems to me that you should be able to feel, but not necessarily see, the dogs ribs.   Can someone ease my mind that this is all okay, or else perhaps let me know if there\u2019s something I can watch or something I should do?","c_root_id_A":"g64aoxl","c_root_id_B":"g64lw2n","created_at_utc_A":1600706005,"created_at_utc_B":1600710606,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet.  Here is the WSAVA (World Small Animal Veterinary Association) body scoring system:   https:\/\/wsava.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Body-Condition-Score-Dog.pdf   A body score of 5 is the ideal, lower numbers indicate underweight, higher numbers indicate overweight. Take a look at it (or similar scores). It can help you determine if in your opinion the dog is substantially underweight and thus suffering from neglect.  I am not a trainer, but did work for several years (in the 90's) at an aquarium. This included studying under marine mammal trainers. Food, while being a very important part of training, was NEVER withheld. If there was leftover food from  a training session because the animal was not doing well in training, it was always provided at the end of the session. Animals are given appropriate diets to maintain their health, altering at whim due to training mistakes is NOT appropriate as it can HARM their health.","human_ref_B":"So this is a Legit way that vets measure an aspect of health called a body condition score.   https:\/\/imgur.com\/skFsfDx","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4601.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"j7j76y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat died and the vet doesn't know why, I'm trying to understand what could have happened Sorry this is long. I want to include as much detail as possible in case any of it is relevant:  TL;DR: She was only 6. She started making strange mouth (gagging?) noises one evening. Two trips to emergency vet. Her body gradually shut down overnight until she stopped breathing the next morning. Vet says it looks neurological but I'm unconvinced. Could it have been poison, or even possibly holding poop too long?  I'm going to try to just lay this out in chronological order. Her name was Mia. I got her in December of last year. She was about 6 at the time. Russian blue, pretty playful and active. I fed her only dry food, the same as the previous owner I adopted her from. She was a pretty good weight, she seemed to self-regulate eating, just eating as much as she wanted then stopping. I lived in a small studio in San Francisco.  She seemed pretty normal and healthy. She used the litter box without problems, I never noticed anything unusual. She would throw up maybe once every 2-3 months, but she was always fine after so I never looked into it.  One thing that really bothered me after she died: I accidentally hit her in the head a few times, once while playing, once while just waving my arms and I didn't see her. She also bumped it jumping into a glass door she didn't see. I was also scared so I would look at her closely afterwards but she also seemed fine. These events were mostly a number of months before she died.  In the last few months I noticed her chewing more, she would spend a lot of time chewing the metal cord of a toy (not electric, just a cord). Sometimes she would chew plastic bags. Not for too long, so I didn't worry much.  Here's where things get a little more suspicious. 1.5 weeks before she died, we moved, just about a mile away. She seemed to get comfortable in the new place overall, except for this: she didn't seem to want to eat as much. I'm trying to remember and I really think that started with the move.  The other issue was she didn't seem to want to poop without me there. The litter box was in the kitchen and I was usually in the main room. I noticed that a few days would go by without her pooping, and I guessed that she didn't like going into the kitchen. So I tested the theory: I brought the litter box into the main room where I could see it and within minutes she pooped. So I assumed I was right and figured I'd just make her get used to using it in the kitchen.  Four days before, I got a plant called a cat palm. She immediately went and started not just chewing it but I think eating it. I looked it up and it seems non-toxic to cats. Given the time delay and that I saw some of the leaves in her last poop, I assume the plant wasn't the issue.  So, now the day of: It's again been a few days since she pooped, she doesn't seem to want to use it in the kitchen. I don't know if it's because she doesn't like the kitchen or if she doesn't feel comfortable without me there. At about 5 in the evening I sit down on the kitchen floor to work. Again, within a few minutes, she poops, looking kind of uncomfortable while doing it, maybe because it's been a few days. As far as I can tell, that's right when she started to look bad.  She seems less energetic, and most concerning she starts making this noise with her mouth that is hard to describe but sounds a lot to me like something is stuck in her throat. I actually tried a little kitty Heimlich and also holding her upside don't and patting her back. She would do it once every few minutes, so I decided to wait a little bit to see if she'd just come back to normal. When she didn't stop and continued to look tired and sluggish, I took her to the vet, around 8 I think.  The vet said she looked fine, that she was stressed and hissing, but energetic. That sounds like her, she had a somewhat anxious demeanor I think. They said there didn't seem to be anything in her throat, and they didn't hear her make a noise. So I took her back. As soon as we got back, around 9 or 10, it was obvious something was wrong. She seemed like she barely knew I was there, eventually she kind of slumped down and I lifted her onto her feet and she just slumped down again.  So I took her back. This time they could tell something was wrong, and they heard her make the noise, which the vet described as \"gagging.\" I left her there. An hour later, the vet called, still not doing well, and they mentioned she had very high blood sugar. I had no reason to think she was diabetic. The vet said a diabetic cat would seem to drink a lot and pee a lot, which she never did. They said she seemed very hydrated which was not consistent with diabetes. This symptom so far is totally unexplained.  The next morning they called and said she had lost consciousness. By the time I got there, she was on a respirator. So that was it. They say putting the respirator in they could confirm there was nothing in her throat.  It wasn't rabies.  They were pretty confounded, but said it looked like it could be a stroke or an aneurism. Neither of those make sense to me, because I would expect those to happen more suddenly and these symptoms don't seem neurological. Basically, it seems to me like it must either be poison, or I imagine she ruptured something internally from not pooping for a long time, each of which seems like it would lead to a slow decline like this. I don't know if the latter is a thing that could happen.  It seems too coincidental that I just moved and these other irregularities happened. I'm concerned something at my place poisoned her, but I can't think of what that could be, and I didn't see her go anywhere or eat anything weird, and of course I was home most of the time.  Thanks for reading if you did. I understand there's no way to know what happened, so I mainly want to know if she could have actually died from refusing to poop, and also how likely it is that she was exposed to some poison at my new place (I've been here over 2 months now and I haven't noticed anything weird happening to me.)","c_root_id_A":"g855nar","c_root_id_B":"g85br25","created_at_utc_A":1602186926,"created_at_utc_B":1602189419,"score_A":30,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"I'm very sorry for your loss, OP. Sudden, and mysterious passing will often leave us with so many questions and this is often part of the grieving process when losing someone we deeply care for.      This is why I also have to tell you we don't have the answers for you and the only way to get closer to answering those questions is to request a necropsy. One correction, tho'... a stroke, while very different between humans and cats, is not sudden in the sense that you know it's happening in an instant and it's more like a combination of signs that lead up to the -event- if that makes sense. I don't have experience with pet aneurysms, so I won't comment on that.      Your vets sound like they tried to determine what was wrong, but no bloodwork was done, and it was mostly symptomatic guessing, so that won't help with the questions you may have right now.","human_ref_B":"Please don't feel like there is something you should have done.  You didn't do anything wrong.   You didn't do anything to deserve this. There are so many things that can happen to the animals we love. And we all just try to do our best. Just like you did.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2493.0,"score_ratio":2.0666666667}
{"post_id":"j7j76y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat died and the vet doesn't know why, I'm trying to understand what could have happened Sorry this is long. I want to include as much detail as possible in case any of it is relevant:  TL;DR: She was only 6. She started making strange mouth (gagging?) noises one evening. Two trips to emergency vet. Her body gradually shut down overnight until she stopped breathing the next morning. Vet says it looks neurological but I'm unconvinced. Could it have been poison, or even possibly holding poop too long?  I'm going to try to just lay this out in chronological order. Her name was Mia. I got her in December of last year. She was about 6 at the time. Russian blue, pretty playful and active. I fed her only dry food, the same as the previous owner I adopted her from. She was a pretty good weight, she seemed to self-regulate eating, just eating as much as she wanted then stopping. I lived in a small studio in San Francisco.  She seemed pretty normal and healthy. She used the litter box without problems, I never noticed anything unusual. She would throw up maybe once every 2-3 months, but she was always fine after so I never looked into it.  One thing that really bothered me after she died: I accidentally hit her in the head a few times, once while playing, once while just waving my arms and I didn't see her. She also bumped it jumping into a glass door she didn't see. I was also scared so I would look at her closely afterwards but she also seemed fine. These events were mostly a number of months before she died.  In the last few months I noticed her chewing more, she would spend a lot of time chewing the metal cord of a toy (not electric, just a cord). Sometimes she would chew plastic bags. Not for too long, so I didn't worry much.  Here's where things get a little more suspicious. 1.5 weeks before she died, we moved, just about a mile away. She seemed to get comfortable in the new place overall, except for this: she didn't seem to want to eat as much. I'm trying to remember and I really think that started with the move.  The other issue was she didn't seem to want to poop without me there. The litter box was in the kitchen and I was usually in the main room. I noticed that a few days would go by without her pooping, and I guessed that she didn't like going into the kitchen. So I tested the theory: I brought the litter box into the main room where I could see it and within minutes she pooped. So I assumed I was right and figured I'd just make her get used to using it in the kitchen.  Four days before, I got a plant called a cat palm. She immediately went and started not just chewing it but I think eating it. I looked it up and it seems non-toxic to cats. Given the time delay and that I saw some of the leaves in her last poop, I assume the plant wasn't the issue.  So, now the day of: It's again been a few days since she pooped, she doesn't seem to want to use it in the kitchen. I don't know if it's because she doesn't like the kitchen or if she doesn't feel comfortable without me there. At about 5 in the evening I sit down on the kitchen floor to work. Again, within a few minutes, she poops, looking kind of uncomfortable while doing it, maybe because it's been a few days. As far as I can tell, that's right when she started to look bad.  She seems less energetic, and most concerning she starts making this noise with her mouth that is hard to describe but sounds a lot to me like something is stuck in her throat. I actually tried a little kitty Heimlich and also holding her upside don't and patting her back. She would do it once every few minutes, so I decided to wait a little bit to see if she'd just come back to normal. When she didn't stop and continued to look tired and sluggish, I took her to the vet, around 8 I think.  The vet said she looked fine, that she was stressed and hissing, but energetic. That sounds like her, she had a somewhat anxious demeanor I think. They said there didn't seem to be anything in her throat, and they didn't hear her make a noise. So I took her back. As soon as we got back, around 9 or 10, it was obvious something was wrong. She seemed like she barely knew I was there, eventually she kind of slumped down and I lifted her onto her feet and she just slumped down again.  So I took her back. This time they could tell something was wrong, and they heard her make the noise, which the vet described as \"gagging.\" I left her there. An hour later, the vet called, still not doing well, and they mentioned she had very high blood sugar. I had no reason to think she was diabetic. The vet said a diabetic cat would seem to drink a lot and pee a lot, which she never did. They said she seemed very hydrated which was not consistent with diabetes. This symptom so far is totally unexplained.  The next morning they called and said she had lost consciousness. By the time I got there, she was on a respirator. So that was it. They say putting the respirator in they could confirm there was nothing in her throat.  It wasn't rabies.  They were pretty confounded, but said it looked like it could be a stroke or an aneurism. Neither of those make sense to me, because I would expect those to happen more suddenly and these symptoms don't seem neurological. Basically, it seems to me like it must either be poison, or I imagine she ruptured something internally from not pooping for a long time, each of which seems like it would lead to a slow decline like this. I don't know if the latter is a thing that could happen.  It seems too coincidental that I just moved and these other irregularities happened. I'm concerned something at my place poisoned her, but I can't think of what that could be, and I didn't see her go anywhere or eat anything weird, and of course I was home most of the time.  Thanks for reading if you did. I understand there's no way to know what happened, so I mainly want to know if she could have actually died from refusing to poop, and also how likely it is that she was exposed to some poison at my new place (I've been here over 2 months now and I haven't noticed anything weird happening to me.)","c_root_id_A":"g85br25","c_root_id_B":"g859xw6","created_at_utc_A":1602189419,"created_at_utc_B":1602188669,"score_A":62,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Please don't feel like there is something you should have done.  You didn't do anything wrong.   You didn't do anything to deserve this. There are so many things that can happen to the animals we love. And we all just try to do our best. Just like you did.","human_ref_B":"Since this sub is very particular in what can be posted, I\u2019ll say this.   1- you could ask your vet to do a toxicology report  2- read up on toxic substances and look around your place for any.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":750.0,"score_ratio":2.9523809524}
{"post_id":"j7j76y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat died and the vet doesn't know why, I'm trying to understand what could have happened Sorry this is long. I want to include as much detail as possible in case any of it is relevant:  TL;DR: She was only 6. She started making strange mouth (gagging?) noises one evening. Two trips to emergency vet. Her body gradually shut down overnight until she stopped breathing the next morning. Vet says it looks neurological but I'm unconvinced. Could it have been poison, or even possibly holding poop too long?  I'm going to try to just lay this out in chronological order. Her name was Mia. I got her in December of last year. She was about 6 at the time. Russian blue, pretty playful and active. I fed her only dry food, the same as the previous owner I adopted her from. She was a pretty good weight, she seemed to self-regulate eating, just eating as much as she wanted then stopping. I lived in a small studio in San Francisco.  She seemed pretty normal and healthy. She used the litter box without problems, I never noticed anything unusual. She would throw up maybe once every 2-3 months, but she was always fine after so I never looked into it.  One thing that really bothered me after she died: I accidentally hit her in the head a few times, once while playing, once while just waving my arms and I didn't see her. She also bumped it jumping into a glass door she didn't see. I was also scared so I would look at her closely afterwards but she also seemed fine. These events were mostly a number of months before she died.  In the last few months I noticed her chewing more, she would spend a lot of time chewing the metal cord of a toy (not electric, just a cord). Sometimes she would chew plastic bags. Not for too long, so I didn't worry much.  Here's where things get a little more suspicious. 1.5 weeks before she died, we moved, just about a mile away. She seemed to get comfortable in the new place overall, except for this: she didn't seem to want to eat as much. I'm trying to remember and I really think that started with the move.  The other issue was she didn't seem to want to poop without me there. The litter box was in the kitchen and I was usually in the main room. I noticed that a few days would go by without her pooping, and I guessed that she didn't like going into the kitchen. So I tested the theory: I brought the litter box into the main room where I could see it and within minutes she pooped. So I assumed I was right and figured I'd just make her get used to using it in the kitchen.  Four days before, I got a plant called a cat palm. She immediately went and started not just chewing it but I think eating it. I looked it up and it seems non-toxic to cats. Given the time delay and that I saw some of the leaves in her last poop, I assume the plant wasn't the issue.  So, now the day of: It's again been a few days since she pooped, she doesn't seem to want to use it in the kitchen. I don't know if it's because she doesn't like the kitchen or if she doesn't feel comfortable without me there. At about 5 in the evening I sit down on the kitchen floor to work. Again, within a few minutes, she poops, looking kind of uncomfortable while doing it, maybe because it's been a few days. As far as I can tell, that's right when she started to look bad.  She seems less energetic, and most concerning she starts making this noise with her mouth that is hard to describe but sounds a lot to me like something is stuck in her throat. I actually tried a little kitty Heimlich and also holding her upside don't and patting her back. She would do it once every few minutes, so I decided to wait a little bit to see if she'd just come back to normal. When she didn't stop and continued to look tired and sluggish, I took her to the vet, around 8 I think.  The vet said she looked fine, that she was stressed and hissing, but energetic. That sounds like her, she had a somewhat anxious demeanor I think. They said there didn't seem to be anything in her throat, and they didn't hear her make a noise. So I took her back. As soon as we got back, around 9 or 10, it was obvious something was wrong. She seemed like she barely knew I was there, eventually she kind of slumped down and I lifted her onto her feet and she just slumped down again.  So I took her back. This time they could tell something was wrong, and they heard her make the noise, which the vet described as \"gagging.\" I left her there. An hour later, the vet called, still not doing well, and they mentioned she had very high blood sugar. I had no reason to think she was diabetic. The vet said a diabetic cat would seem to drink a lot and pee a lot, which she never did. They said she seemed very hydrated which was not consistent with diabetes. This symptom so far is totally unexplained.  The next morning they called and said she had lost consciousness. By the time I got there, she was on a respirator. So that was it. They say putting the respirator in they could confirm there was nothing in her throat.  It wasn't rabies.  They were pretty confounded, but said it looked like it could be a stroke or an aneurism. Neither of those make sense to me, because I would expect those to happen more suddenly and these symptoms don't seem neurological. Basically, it seems to me like it must either be poison, or I imagine she ruptured something internally from not pooping for a long time, each of which seems like it would lead to a slow decline like this. I don't know if the latter is a thing that could happen.  It seems too coincidental that I just moved and these other irregularities happened. I'm concerned something at my place poisoned her, but I can't think of what that could be, and I didn't see her go anywhere or eat anything weird, and of course I was home most of the time.  Thanks for reading if you did. I understand there's no way to know what happened, so I mainly want to know if she could have actually died from refusing to poop, and also how likely it is that she was exposed to some poison at my new place (I've been here over 2 months now and I haven't noticed anything weird happening to me.)","c_root_id_A":"g855nar","c_root_id_B":"g85cmap","created_at_utc_A":1602186926,"created_at_utc_B":1602189773,"score_A":30,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"I'm very sorry for your loss, OP. Sudden, and mysterious passing will often leave us with so many questions and this is often part of the grieving process when losing someone we deeply care for.      This is why I also have to tell you we don't have the answers for you and the only way to get closer to answering those questions is to request a necropsy. One correction, tho'... a stroke, while very different between humans and cats, is not sudden in the sense that you know it's happening in an instant and it's more like a combination of signs that lead up to the -event- if that makes sense. I don't have experience with pet aneurysms, so I won't comment on that.      Your vets sound like they tried to determine what was wrong, but no bloodwork was done, and it was mostly symptomatic guessing, so that won't help with the questions you may have right now.","human_ref_B":"Normally I can understand why the mods remove all the comments, but why do any of those normal rules apply in a case where the animal is already deceased? It already happened and no one will be using \u201canecdotes\u201d or past experiences to bring back a lost pet. I\u2019m genuinely confused about this not trying to attack the mods- just wondering what reasoning is behind it   OP- I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2847.0,"score_ratio":1.5333333333}
{"post_id":"j7j76y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat died and the vet doesn't know why, I'm trying to understand what could have happened Sorry this is long. I want to include as much detail as possible in case any of it is relevant:  TL;DR: She was only 6. She started making strange mouth (gagging?) noises one evening. Two trips to emergency vet. Her body gradually shut down overnight until she stopped breathing the next morning. Vet says it looks neurological but I'm unconvinced. Could it have been poison, or even possibly holding poop too long?  I'm going to try to just lay this out in chronological order. Her name was Mia. I got her in December of last year. She was about 6 at the time. Russian blue, pretty playful and active. I fed her only dry food, the same as the previous owner I adopted her from. She was a pretty good weight, she seemed to self-regulate eating, just eating as much as she wanted then stopping. I lived in a small studio in San Francisco.  She seemed pretty normal and healthy. She used the litter box without problems, I never noticed anything unusual. She would throw up maybe once every 2-3 months, but she was always fine after so I never looked into it.  One thing that really bothered me after she died: I accidentally hit her in the head a few times, once while playing, once while just waving my arms and I didn't see her. She also bumped it jumping into a glass door she didn't see. I was also scared so I would look at her closely afterwards but she also seemed fine. These events were mostly a number of months before she died.  In the last few months I noticed her chewing more, she would spend a lot of time chewing the metal cord of a toy (not electric, just a cord). Sometimes she would chew plastic bags. Not for too long, so I didn't worry much.  Here's where things get a little more suspicious. 1.5 weeks before she died, we moved, just about a mile away. She seemed to get comfortable in the new place overall, except for this: she didn't seem to want to eat as much. I'm trying to remember and I really think that started with the move.  The other issue was she didn't seem to want to poop without me there. The litter box was in the kitchen and I was usually in the main room. I noticed that a few days would go by without her pooping, and I guessed that she didn't like going into the kitchen. So I tested the theory: I brought the litter box into the main room where I could see it and within minutes she pooped. So I assumed I was right and figured I'd just make her get used to using it in the kitchen.  Four days before, I got a plant called a cat palm. She immediately went and started not just chewing it but I think eating it. I looked it up and it seems non-toxic to cats. Given the time delay and that I saw some of the leaves in her last poop, I assume the plant wasn't the issue.  So, now the day of: It's again been a few days since she pooped, she doesn't seem to want to use it in the kitchen. I don't know if it's because she doesn't like the kitchen or if she doesn't feel comfortable without me there. At about 5 in the evening I sit down on the kitchen floor to work. Again, within a few minutes, she poops, looking kind of uncomfortable while doing it, maybe because it's been a few days. As far as I can tell, that's right when she started to look bad.  She seems less energetic, and most concerning she starts making this noise with her mouth that is hard to describe but sounds a lot to me like something is stuck in her throat. I actually tried a little kitty Heimlich and also holding her upside don't and patting her back. She would do it once every few minutes, so I decided to wait a little bit to see if she'd just come back to normal. When she didn't stop and continued to look tired and sluggish, I took her to the vet, around 8 I think.  The vet said she looked fine, that she was stressed and hissing, but energetic. That sounds like her, she had a somewhat anxious demeanor I think. They said there didn't seem to be anything in her throat, and they didn't hear her make a noise. So I took her back. As soon as we got back, around 9 or 10, it was obvious something was wrong. She seemed like she barely knew I was there, eventually she kind of slumped down and I lifted her onto her feet and she just slumped down again.  So I took her back. This time they could tell something was wrong, and they heard her make the noise, which the vet described as \"gagging.\" I left her there. An hour later, the vet called, still not doing well, and they mentioned she had very high blood sugar. I had no reason to think she was diabetic. The vet said a diabetic cat would seem to drink a lot and pee a lot, which she never did. They said she seemed very hydrated which was not consistent with diabetes. This symptom so far is totally unexplained.  The next morning they called and said she had lost consciousness. By the time I got there, she was on a respirator. So that was it. They say putting the respirator in they could confirm there was nothing in her throat.  It wasn't rabies.  They were pretty confounded, but said it looked like it could be a stroke or an aneurism. Neither of those make sense to me, because I would expect those to happen more suddenly and these symptoms don't seem neurological. Basically, it seems to me like it must either be poison, or I imagine she ruptured something internally from not pooping for a long time, each of which seems like it would lead to a slow decline like this. I don't know if the latter is a thing that could happen.  It seems too coincidental that I just moved and these other irregularities happened. I'm concerned something at my place poisoned her, but I can't think of what that could be, and I didn't see her go anywhere or eat anything weird, and of course I was home most of the time.  Thanks for reading if you did. I understand there's no way to know what happened, so I mainly want to know if she could have actually died from refusing to poop, and also how likely it is that she was exposed to some poison at my new place (I've been here over 2 months now and I haven't noticed anything weird happening to me.)","c_root_id_A":"g859xw6","c_root_id_B":"g85cmap","created_at_utc_A":1602188669,"created_at_utc_B":1602189773,"score_A":21,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Since this sub is very particular in what can be posted, I\u2019ll say this.   1- you could ask your vet to do a toxicology report  2- read up on toxic substances and look around your place for any.","human_ref_B":"Normally I can understand why the mods remove all the comments, but why do any of those normal rules apply in a case where the animal is already deceased? It already happened and no one will be using \u201canecdotes\u201d or past experiences to bring back a lost pet. I\u2019m genuinely confused about this not trying to attack the mods- just wondering what reasoning is behind it   OP- I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1104.0,"score_ratio":2.1904761905}
{"post_id":"mkdsfu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My healthy Husky died from nuerological disease after 3 days of showing initial signs Species: dog  Age: 7.5 Sex: F , spayed  Breed: Siberian husky  History: Very Healthy  Clinical signs: staring into nothing, whimpering, salivating  Duration: 3 days  General location: souther california  Xrays: healthy , blood work healthy   My healthy husky was acting strange on a saturday night sitting on her own on a spot in the backyard staring at nothing being kind of avoiding others.   On Sunday in addition to acting strange she began salivating, whimpering, and panting. We took took her to emergency hospital where she was diagnosed with back pain. Doctors didn't perform a neurological exam.   Monday Morning the cries became louder. We then took her to her original vet where they gave her more pain meds for her back but also performed neurological test where my dog showed a delayed response to her legs. The Vet never advised us anything wrong about our dog nuerologicaly during discharge however did write on her report about the delayed response of her legs and would rececommend physical therapy if it advances.   Monday night comes by my dogs cries continue. We take her to the same emergency hospital where they give her a sedative to sleep. She sleeps for about 4 hours and then cries continue.  Tuesday morning  comes still no signs of improvement and my dog has her 1st seizure. Thats when its clear something is going on neurologicaly. We take her to a new emergency hospital where they sedate her and wait for her to wake so we can transfer her to a overnight hospital so she can be seen by a neurologist.   Sadly on Tuesday night my dog died after her 3rd seizure overnight.   How is this possible? What neurological disease could have possibly killed my dog this rapidly? Why was this poorly diagnosed?","c_root_id_A":"gtgcf4v","c_root_id_B":"gtg9fcc","created_at_utc_A":1617630864,"created_at_utc_B":1617629271,"score_A":14,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Was she up to date on her rabies vaccination?","human_ref_B":"At any point did she have bloodwork done?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1593.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"mkdsfu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My healthy Husky died from nuerological disease after 3 days of showing initial signs Species: dog  Age: 7.5 Sex: F , spayed  Breed: Siberian husky  History: Very Healthy  Clinical signs: staring into nothing, whimpering, salivating  Duration: 3 days  General location: souther california  Xrays: healthy , blood work healthy   My healthy husky was acting strange on a saturday night sitting on her own on a spot in the backyard staring at nothing being kind of avoiding others.   On Sunday in addition to acting strange she began salivating, whimpering, and panting. We took took her to emergency hospital where she was diagnosed with back pain. Doctors didn't perform a neurological exam.   Monday Morning the cries became louder. We then took her to her original vet where they gave her more pain meds for her back but also performed neurological test where my dog showed a delayed response to her legs. The Vet never advised us anything wrong about our dog nuerologicaly during discharge however did write on her report about the delayed response of her legs and would rececommend physical therapy if it advances.   Monday night comes by my dogs cries continue. We take her to the same emergency hospital where they give her a sedative to sleep. She sleeps for about 4 hours and then cries continue.  Tuesday morning  comes still no signs of improvement and my dog has her 1st seizure. Thats when its clear something is going on neurologicaly. We take her to a new emergency hospital where they sedate her and wait for her to wake so we can transfer her to a overnight hospital so she can be seen by a neurologist.   Sadly on Tuesday night my dog died after her 3rd seizure overnight.   How is this possible? What neurological disease could have possibly killed my dog this rapidly? Why was this poorly diagnosed?","c_root_id_A":"gtg9fcc","c_root_id_B":"gtgloj6","created_at_utc_A":1617629271,"created_at_utc_B":1617635459,"score_A":11,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"At any point did she have bloodwork done?","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry for your loss truly. I'm afraid the only way to tell now is to have an autopsy performed with a veterinary pathologist... if you haven't talked to you veterinarians about it just yet I'd recommend requesting for one.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6188.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"kgvz3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Please help me with my dogs ridiculous allergy list, we can\u2019t figure out what to feed her! I have been to 4 different vets, one of them we paid $350 for an allergy panel. My dog is allergic to almost everything they tested for. I\u2019ll include an Imgur to show you guys the chart.   We\u2019ve got a recommended food list for her in the back of this folder they gave us, and we\u2019ve tried so many different options costing us between $50 a bag all the way up to almost $150. Every time we try it seems like her rashes and infections get better for a month or two and then if we don\u2019t switch foods again it just gets worse and worse.   She\u2019s currently in the bath with some medicated shampoo, and she is losing so much hair! Please help.   Here\u2019s the allergy report- https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/IGI7fpx","c_root_id_A":"gghrdj9","c_root_id_B":"ggi0wwq","created_at_utc_A":1608482415,"created_at_utc_B":1608487319,"score_A":43,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"A fully hydrolyzed diet would be the best thing here, such as Purina HA, Royal canin hypoallergenic, or Hills z\/d. No normal treats or anything else at all.","human_ref_B":"Has she had labwork done? Thyroid testing? Any discussion of referral to a board certified dermatologist?  I would not bother feeding this dog any more OTC foods, I would do a strict elimination diet trial of 8 to 12 weeks on a prescription level hydrolyzed protein diet. Blood testing for food allergies is unreliable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4904.0,"score_ratio":1.2093023256}
{"post_id":"kgvz3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Please help me with my dogs ridiculous allergy list, we can\u2019t figure out what to feed her! I have been to 4 different vets, one of them we paid $350 for an allergy panel. My dog is allergic to almost everything they tested for. I\u2019ll include an Imgur to show you guys the chart.   We\u2019ve got a recommended food list for her in the back of this folder they gave us, and we\u2019ve tried so many different options costing us between $50 a bag all the way up to almost $150. Every time we try it seems like her rashes and infections get better for a month or two and then if we don\u2019t switch foods again it just gets worse and worse.   She\u2019s currently in the bath with some medicated shampoo, and she is losing so much hair! Please help.   Here\u2019s the allergy report- https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/IGI7fpx","c_root_id_A":"ggi0wwq","c_root_id_B":"ggi0oo1","created_at_utc_A":1608487319,"created_at_utc_B":1608487208,"score_A":52,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"Has she had labwork done? Thyroid testing? Any discussion of referral to a board certified dermatologist?  I would not bother feeding this dog any more OTC foods, I would do a strict elimination diet trial of 8 to 12 weeks on a prescription level hydrolyzed protein diet. Blood testing for food allergies is unreliable.","human_ref_B":"As has been said, the allergy panel you submitted is most likely meaningless. The best course of action in your situation would be to consult with a veterinary dermatologist. You can find one near you using this site.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":111.0,"score_ratio":1.2380952381}
{"post_id":"kgvz3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Please help me with my dogs ridiculous allergy list, we can\u2019t figure out what to feed her! I have been to 4 different vets, one of them we paid $350 for an allergy panel. My dog is allergic to almost everything they tested for. I\u2019ll include an Imgur to show you guys the chart.   We\u2019ve got a recommended food list for her in the back of this folder they gave us, and we\u2019ve tried so many different options costing us between $50 a bag all the way up to almost $150. Every time we try it seems like her rashes and infections get better for a month or two and then if we don\u2019t switch foods again it just gets worse and worse.   She\u2019s currently in the bath with some medicated shampoo, and she is losing so much hair! Please help.   Here\u2019s the allergy report- https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/IGI7fpx","c_root_id_A":"ggiifv3","c_root_id_B":"ggi28sg","created_at_utc_A":1608495882,"created_at_utc_B":1608487976,"score_A":41,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Hey- can you give us a more complete history of what is going on with your dog? There are several issues that I see here. I really think that you need the guidance of a dermatologist, or at least stick with one veterinarian who likes dermatology because a proper allergy work up can sometimes require a several months-long relationship between you, your dog, and your vet.  Blood tests (as everyone else is saying here) are unreliable for food allergens, and are in my opinion less reliable than skin tests for environmental allergens. It looks like from your comments that your pup has already gone through a diet trial for 2-3 months with special diets (with no flavored treats or medications)- do you recall the duration of each diet trial and with what food?  I am sure that you are aware that each type of protein that your dog has has in the past should not be used in any future trial, so if your dog has had venison, chicken, salmon in the past then it cannot be used later... To further complicate things, there can be cross-reactivity between parent proteins (eg a dog who is allergic to chicken could also be allergic to duck).  What you may NOT be aware of is that OTC diets have a VERY high rate of cross contamination. There are a lot of studies published about this: https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC6136174\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28247445\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21039924\/  So, if you choose an OTC diet that claims to only have venison and there's bits of chicken in it, we would wrongly interpret your dog as being allergic to venison when it is not. However, if  she has been on a hydrolyzed diet for 3 months with no response, and has truly had no response, then I think it's pretty unlikely that your dog has a food allergy.  A huge part of dermatology is history. Some history that is important to know in order to figure out what is going on- and the laundry list of questions just underlines why it is important to establish a good relationship: How old is your dog? When did clinical signs first appear? What ARE the clinical signs? ( Just hair falling out, no itching? Where is the hair falling out? Itch? If itching- where are we the itchiest? Repeated ear\/skin infections?)  Do those clinical signs wax\/wane with seasons? Are we on a flea\/tick preventative, and if so, what is the name of it? Did the vet(s) perform any tests run such as skin scrapes or cytologies? Blood tests other than the allergy panel? Where is your location, and how long has your dog been in that location?","human_ref_B":"Seek referral to a dermatologist of internal medicine specialist. Your dog might have more than just allergies. Blood tests are not reliable for determining allergens.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7906.0,"score_ratio":1.9523809524}
{"post_id":"kgvz3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Please help me with my dogs ridiculous allergy list, we can\u2019t figure out what to feed her! I have been to 4 different vets, one of them we paid $350 for an allergy panel. My dog is allergic to almost everything they tested for. I\u2019ll include an Imgur to show you guys the chart.   We\u2019ve got a recommended food list for her in the back of this folder they gave us, and we\u2019ve tried so many different options costing us between $50 a bag all the way up to almost $150. Every time we try it seems like her rashes and infections get better for a month or two and then if we don\u2019t switch foods again it just gets worse and worse.   She\u2019s currently in the bath with some medicated shampoo, and she is losing so much hair! Please help.   Here\u2019s the allergy report- https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/IGI7fpx","c_root_id_A":"ggievx4","c_root_id_B":"ggiifv3","created_at_utc_A":1608494154,"created_at_utc_B":1608495882,"score_A":5,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"I would recommend consulting with a dermatologist. They do more sensitive allergen testing and can make diet recommendations and a referral to a nutritionist if needed. Regular veterinarians do work a lot with basic allergy dogs, but sometimes you need more expertise. They also can provide immunotherapy (allergy vaccines) or other treatment recommendations. As for the hydrolyzed diet, she needs to be eating that and *only* that. They also make hydrolyzed treats.  Honestly, I know it's expensive to see a dermatologist, but it will save you a lot of grief in the end.","human_ref_B":"Hey- can you give us a more complete history of what is going on with your dog? There are several issues that I see here. I really think that you need the guidance of a dermatologist, or at least stick with one veterinarian who likes dermatology because a proper allergy work up can sometimes require a several months-long relationship between you, your dog, and your vet.  Blood tests (as everyone else is saying here) are unreliable for food allergens, and are in my opinion less reliable than skin tests for environmental allergens. It looks like from your comments that your pup has already gone through a diet trial for 2-3 months with special diets (with no flavored treats or medications)- do you recall the duration of each diet trial and with what food?  I am sure that you are aware that each type of protein that your dog has has in the past should not be used in any future trial, so if your dog has had venison, chicken, salmon in the past then it cannot be used later... To further complicate things, there can be cross-reactivity between parent proteins (eg a dog who is allergic to chicken could also be allergic to duck).  What you may NOT be aware of is that OTC diets have a VERY high rate of cross contamination. There are a lot of studies published about this: https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC6136174\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28247445\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21039924\/  So, if you choose an OTC diet that claims to only have venison and there's bits of chicken in it, we would wrongly interpret your dog as being allergic to venison when it is not. However, if  she has been on a hydrolyzed diet for 3 months with no response, and has truly had no response, then I think it's pretty unlikely that your dog has a food allergy.  A huge part of dermatology is history. Some history that is important to know in order to figure out what is going on- and the laundry list of questions just underlines why it is important to establish a good relationship: How old is your dog? When did clinical signs first appear? What ARE the clinical signs? ( Just hair falling out, no itching? Where is the hair falling out? Itch? If itching- where are we the itchiest? Repeated ear\/skin infections?)  Do those clinical signs wax\/wane with seasons? Are we on a flea\/tick preventative, and if so, what is the name of it? Did the vet(s) perform any tests run such as skin scrapes or cytologies? Blood tests other than the allergy panel? Where is your location, and how long has your dog been in that location?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1728.0,"score_ratio":8.2}
{"post_id":"kgvz3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Please help me with my dogs ridiculous allergy list, we can\u2019t figure out what to feed her! I have been to 4 different vets, one of them we paid $350 for an allergy panel. My dog is allergic to almost everything they tested for. I\u2019ll include an Imgur to show you guys the chart.   We\u2019ve got a recommended food list for her in the back of this folder they gave us, and we\u2019ve tried so many different options costing us between $50 a bag all the way up to almost $150. Every time we try it seems like her rashes and infections get better for a month or two and then if we don\u2019t switch foods again it just gets worse and worse.   She\u2019s currently in the bath with some medicated shampoo, and she is losing so much hair! Please help.   Here\u2019s the allergy report- https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/IGI7fpx","c_root_id_A":"ggievx4","c_root_id_B":"ggj6r6s","created_at_utc_A":1608494154,"created_at_utc_B":1608508174,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I would recommend consulting with a dermatologist. They do more sensitive allergen testing and can make diet recommendations and a referral to a nutritionist if needed. Regular veterinarians do work a lot with basic allergy dogs, but sometimes you need more expertise. They also can provide immunotherapy (allergy vaccines) or other treatment recommendations. As for the hydrolyzed diet, she needs to be eating that and *only* that. They also make hydrolyzed treats.  Honestly, I know it's expensive to see a dermatologist, but it will save you a lot of grief in the end.","human_ref_B":"I just want to chime in here with the rest of the comments regarding elimination diet and a trip to the dermatologist. I am also in the camp of elimination diet as the gold standard for food allergy testing. At this point though, your dog should really see a specialist. Be prepared to give a detailed history including medications (OTC and prescription) that your dog is on or has been in in the past. Also, when we mention elimination diets, we mean completely eliminating anything other than the food you\u2019re directed to feed. This includes any flavored medications such as monthly heartworm prevention and any supplements for the skin you may give.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14020.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gneddsc","c_root_id_B":"gnehdsl","created_at_utc_A":1613309065,"created_at_utc_B":1613310598,"score_A":45,"score_B":148,"human_ref_A":"There\u2019s probably something wrong with him either an organ function abnormalityor something internal. With that being said you could do a further work up on him mayyybe with a different vet.   if he seems like he\u2019s suffering it might not be wrong to let him peacefully pass. But ideally you would choose one those 2 things a medical work up or a peaceful passing. Doing nothing would be the selfish thing. Did they do blood work 5 months ago?","human_ref_B":"We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Quality of Life scale to assist with end of life decisions. As u\/TheLawIsi points out, a second opinion or follow-up with the vet is probably warranted, especially since there was some improvement with the medication.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1533.0,"score_ratio":3.2888888889}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gng55a7","c_root_id_B":"gngjuun","created_at_utc_A":1613325281,"created_at_utc_B":1613332539,"score_A":6,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"You can look into options near you for palliative end-of-life care at home as an alternative to euthanasia if that\u2019s something you might be interested in. I\u2019ll be holding space in my heart for your sweet old boy.","human_ref_B":"I always say it is better to have done it too soon while quality of life is still good than to have waited too long. If you were expecting to have had him put down 5 months ago and are still asking the question I think you have known the answer, although that doesn\u2019t necessarily make it any easier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7258.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gng7ccs","c_root_id_B":"gngjuun","created_at_utc_A":1613326255,"created_at_utc_B":1613332539,"score_A":6,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"There is vet financing Available if you need to pay for something (like the \u00a3300 for blood tests) here in the US I\u2019ve used CareCredit for our cats so I can pay a Bill over time","human_ref_B":"I always say it is better to have done it too soon while quality of life is still good than to have waited too long. If you were expecting to have had him put down 5 months ago and are still asking the question I think you have known the answer, although that doesn\u2019t necessarily make it any easier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6284.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gng9q7y","c_root_id_B":"gngjuun","created_at_utc_A":1613327429,"created_at_utc_B":1613332539,"score_A":3,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"If you want to keep going with him I would advise seeking a consult with a vet who has an interest in geriatric care - it would be reasonable to do a physical exam and some blood work to assess broadly what\u2019s physically going on with him.  There likely are some abnormalities but with this information perhaps some medications and\/or treatments you can do at home can be prescribed to improve his quality of life.  Then, keep in touch with the vet as to his progress - his home care can be adjusted as needed.  You can focus on maintaining an acceptable quality of life (see the HMM scale others have posted) and when that is no longer possible euthanasia is likely indicated.  Edit - if finances are a concern you can just tell the vet this AND that your only focus is his quality of life - not heroics and academic pursuits - they may be able to work within your budget to address his quality of life even without knowing for sure the underlying cause of his symptoms.  Also, if his quality of life is poor on the HHM scale and veterinary intervention isn\u2019t possible it sounds like humane euthanasia may be a reasonable option.  It sounds like he has had a long happy life with you.","human_ref_B":"I always say it is better to have done it too soon while quality of life is still good than to have waited too long. If you were expecting to have had him put down 5 months ago and are still asking the question I think you have known the answer, although that doesn\u2019t necessarily make it any easier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5110.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gnhtf04","c_root_id_B":"gngz9qv","created_at_utc_A":1613357399,"created_at_utc_B":1613340468,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"put yourself in the cats eyes, if you had all of this for the small amount of time you had left, would you want to live?","human_ref_B":"Get an X-ray at least and see if they can find any tumors. I never feel right putting a pet down, unless I have exhausted every possible means of making him better which means X-ray, ultrasound, biopsy and surgery if needed. My 15 1\/2 dog is doing great after having her spleen removed and I\u2019m so glad I invested in her.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16931.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ljnqm2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Am I being selfish by keeping my cat alive? My male cat is almost 16 and we\u2019re really considering having him put down. He obviously has bad arthritis, his back legs are stiff, he can longer jump up properly. He has lost all his muscle and you can feel almost every bone and bump. He drinks way too much water and sometimes has blood in his poop. We took him to the vet about 5 months ago, expecting to have him put down but they told us they couldn't find anything wrong with him and believed it a stomach infection. They gave us some medication for him, which perked him up a little bit for the duration of the medication but now he is just getting bad again. I understand that it would be best for him, and I know it is coming. I think I'm just putting it off as long as possible because I've had him since a child, since he was 8 weeks old and only said goodbye to another of my cats in August of last year, which ripped my heart out. I just feel almost cruel for keeping him alive for my own sake.","c_root_id_A":"gnhtf04","c_root_id_B":"gnhohub","created_at_utc_A":1613357399,"created_at_utc_B":1613354647,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"put yourself in the cats eyes, if you had all of this for the small amount of time you had left, would you want to live?","human_ref_B":"I don't think you are selfish at all when he decides to pass thats his choice. Its about being there with him that matters.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2752.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldhkbx","c_root_id_B":"fldixez","created_at_utc_A":1585064667,"created_at_utc_B":1585065448,"score_A":32,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"Without a vet\u2019s analysis, what can we tell you? Most answers on this sub are \u201cSee your vet immediately\u201d anyway.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re fostering, please call your shelter or rescue who can most readily advise you and connect you with a veterinary professional as needed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":781.0,"score_ratio":2.15625}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldhyaz","c_root_id_B":"fldixez","created_at_utc_A":1585064891,"created_at_utc_B":1585065448,"score_A":6,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"Go see your vet if you see any suspicious behavior. Is the white dog also the runt?","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re fostering, please call your shelter or rescue who can most readily advise you and connect you with a veterinary professional as needed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":557.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldhkbx","c_root_id_B":"fldqpan","created_at_utc_A":1585064667,"created_at_utc_B":1585069849,"score_A":32,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Without a vet\u2019s analysis, what can we tell you? Most answers on this sub are \u201cSee your vet immediately\u201d anyway.","human_ref_B":"Is he reacting to sounds and visual stimuli?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5182.0,"score_ratio":1.28125}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldp3um","c_root_id_B":"fldqpan","created_at_utc_A":1585068953,"created_at_utc_B":1585069849,"score_A":21,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Not a veterinary provider.   Is the puppy peeing and pooping ok?","human_ref_B":"Is he reacting to sounds and visual stimuli?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":896.0,"score_ratio":1.9523809524}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldhyaz","c_root_id_B":"fldqpan","created_at_utc_A":1585064891,"created_at_utc_B":1585069849,"score_A":6,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Go see your vet if you see any suspicious behavior. Is the white dog also the runt?","human_ref_B":"Is he reacting to sounds and visual stimuli?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4958.0,"score_ratio":6.8333333333}
{"post_id":"fo3xik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Foster Dog Mom has 5 5 day old puppies, she keeps carrying the same pup to the door every five minutes or so and then brings him back to the pool. Could there be something wrong with the puppy? Berry (Mama) always brings the same exact puppy to the door every five minutes or so. They are kept in my spare bedroom in a pool. I have a camera in there to keep an eye on them. Every time she carries the puppy he whines so much, but she keeps doing it. I\u2019m just worried there\u2019s something wrong with the puppy because she keeps carrying him around.   The mom is a terrier mix, father of the puppies unknown.   The puppy seems to be eating normally and is gaining weight. He is not the smallest in the litter.   The only difference between him and the other pups is his color, he is white while the others are dark brindle and black. I do not see evidence of a cleft palate.   Any advice or thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"fldp3um","c_root_id_B":"fldhyaz","created_at_utc_A":1585068953,"created_at_utc_B":1585064891,"score_A":21,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a veterinary provider.   Is the puppy peeing and pooping ok?","human_ref_B":"Go see your vet if you see any suspicious behavior. Is the white dog also the runt?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4062.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"h0dn4g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"my turtoise keeps laying eggs almost every week but there\u2019s no male ?? Are they fertile or ? It\u2019s so concerning bc we had her for a little more than a month and she laid 10 eggs in total","c_root_id_A":"ftnkc3k","c_root_id_B":"ftncnue","created_at_utc_A":1591842480,"created_at_utc_B":1591838356,"score_A":19,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"If you've only had her a month it's possible they're fertile, you can incubate them and find out if you like or just toss em.  If she continues to lay multiples for weeks on end, she def needs a vet  Edit to add, make sure her nutrition is spot on and shes getting enough calcium and has the proper uva\/Uvb bulbs.","human_ref_B":"If there's no male they aren't fertile. Consider it your tortoise's interpretation of having her period.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4124.0,"score_ratio":1.0555555556}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iymoeeb","c_root_id_B":"iymh3vt","created_at_utc_A":1669994315,"created_at_utc_B":1669991081,"score_A":150,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"A lot of things that seem normal and justifiable to one generation are viewed in a different light by subsequent generations. Legally pets are property but nowadays they are predominantly seen as family members (in North America anyways).   I have never met a vet who does debarking or tail docking; I know that there are some out there but they are few and far between these days. I do know several who declaw if they feel there is a good reason, but even that is becoming pretty uncommon.   On the same note, why do many physicians perform routine infant circumcisions? If society is still ok with subjecting babies to unnecessary and painful procedures, it shouldn't come as a huge surprise that there isn't a lot of discourse surrounding things like declawing cats.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but docking can actually be medically necessary due to happy tail syndrome in some dogs (can't speak on the rest of it!)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3234.0,"score_ratio":4.6875}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iymh3vt","c_root_id_B":"iyn2h1p","created_at_utc_A":1669991081,"created_at_utc_B":1670000011,"score_A":32,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but docking can actually be medically necessary due to happy tail syndrome in some dogs (can't speak on the rest of it!)","human_ref_B":"Because if they don\u2019t do it, someone else will do it in their garage and it will be a much more painful action. I hate ear cropping, but I\u2019d rather see a dog get it done by a medical professional with pain treatment and antibiotics than see some asshole do it in their garage with kitchen scissors","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8930.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyncaef","c_root_id_B":"iymh3vt","created_at_utc_A":1670003812,"created_at_utc_B":1669991081,"score_A":62,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"There are some cases when declawing is necessary, such as when a cat\u2019s toe nail refuses to grow properly or back in properly, Infected toes can also be a reason for declawing, or claws that don\u2019t retract and grow into their foot pads.  Docking tails can be a working dog thing as you said, which can definitely prevent future pain where they then have to face the tail injury and then docking anyway. Docking is also done for dogs who wag their tail too hard and end up breaking their own tail. Then of course, docking can be done for very bad tail injuries and disease.  So it is important that the vets know how to do any of these procedures and how to perform them in case they are medically necessary.  Thing about why people need amputation. Mangled beyond use, disease, and whatever other reasons those are necessary in people is the same for pets. While many seek these procedures for reasons they shouldn\u2019t, there are medical reasons why they should as well.  I don\u2019t know anything off of the top of my head for debarking so, I won\u2019t say if there is or is not a reason for that particular procedure.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but docking can actually be medically necessary due to happy tail syndrome in some dogs (can't speak on the rest of it!)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12731.0,"score_ratio":1.9375}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynuniq","c_root_id_B":"iynq1oq","created_at_utc_A":1670011173,"created_at_utc_B":1670009319,"score_A":29,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Here in the UK it's all illegal, full stop!!! No vet will do it and anyone caught trying to do it or get it done or an animal is seen to have had these done the reason must be proved and if not the animals are taken from them and they are heavily prosecuted or imprisoned depending on the severity. A vet will never be able to practice again if they are found to have done it illegally","human_ref_B":"I have known vets and techs who reluctantly declawed cats under the logic that it's better to have a declawed cat than a homeless or dead one.  I worked in a shelter for years and can personally attest that declawed cats are still frequently surrendered for a wide variety of reasons, some of which arguably were created or exacerbated by the declawing itself (litterbox aversion, biting, etc). It's not justifiable and I think it's disgusting that any doctors still willingly perform the procedure in any but the most extreme circumstances.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1854.0,"score_ratio":1.5263157895}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynctqw","c_root_id_B":"iynuniq","created_at_utc_A":1670004024,"created_at_utc_B":1670011173,"score_A":8,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"In some cases (though, not always, obviously) there are medical reasons for doing some of those procedures. I'm sure your local vet would be able to talk to you more about this if you're curious. Most are happy to answer a couple questions. Working dogs have different hazards than housepets that the owner and vet has to account for, additionally.","human_ref_B":"Here in the UK it's all illegal, full stop!!! No vet will do it and anyone caught trying to do it or get it done or an animal is seen to have had these done the reason must be proved and if not the animals are taken from them and they are heavily prosecuted or imprisoned depending on the severity. A vet will never be able to practice again if they are found to have done it illegally","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7149.0,"score_ratio":3.625}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynj5y2","c_root_id_B":"iynuniq","created_at_utc_A":1670006525,"created_at_utc_B":1670011173,"score_A":4,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Generational stubbornness.","human_ref_B":"Here in the UK it's all illegal, full stop!!! No vet will do it and anyone caught trying to do it or get it done or an animal is seen to have had these done the reason must be proved and if not the animals are taken from them and they are heavily prosecuted or imprisoned depending on the severity. A vet will never be able to practice again if they are found to have done it illegally","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4648.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynqyy0","c_root_id_B":"iynuniq","created_at_utc_A":1670009703,"created_at_utc_B":1670011173,"score_A":2,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Not a Vet.  Most people here write about necessary conditions but nobody (only with one exception) mentioned that some Vets are doing it in cases where these procedures aren't medically required, they did them only because owners asked for these procedures being done. I think these cases are what you asked about.   We all know such Vets exist. I don't understand why a lot of people pretend such Vets don't exist and these procedures are done only when necessary.","human_ref_B":"Here in the UK it's all illegal, full stop!!! No vet will do it and anyone caught trying to do it or get it done or an animal is seen to have had these done the reason must be proved and if not the animals are taken from them and they are heavily prosecuted or imprisoned depending on the severity. A vet will never be able to practice again if they are found to have done it illegally","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1470.0,"score_ratio":14.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynq1oq","c_root_id_B":"iynctqw","created_at_utc_A":1670009319,"created_at_utc_B":1670004024,"score_A":19,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I have known vets and techs who reluctantly declawed cats under the logic that it's better to have a declawed cat than a homeless or dead one.  I worked in a shelter for years and can personally attest that declawed cats are still frequently surrendered for a wide variety of reasons, some of which arguably were created or exacerbated by the declawing itself (litterbox aversion, biting, etc). It's not justifiable and I think it's disgusting that any doctors still willingly perform the procedure in any but the most extreme circumstances.","human_ref_B":"In some cases (though, not always, obviously) there are medical reasons for doing some of those procedures. I'm sure your local vet would be able to talk to you more about this if you're curious. Most are happy to answer a couple questions. Working dogs have different hazards than housepets that the owner and vet has to account for, additionally.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5295.0,"score_ratio":2.375}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynq1oq","c_root_id_B":"iynj5y2","created_at_utc_A":1670009319,"created_at_utc_B":1670006525,"score_A":19,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I have known vets and techs who reluctantly declawed cats under the logic that it's better to have a declawed cat than a homeless or dead one.  I worked in a shelter for years and can personally attest that declawed cats are still frequently surrendered for a wide variety of reasons, some of which arguably were created or exacerbated by the declawing itself (litterbox aversion, biting, etc). It's not justifiable and I think it's disgusting that any doctors still willingly perform the procedure in any but the most extreme circumstances.","human_ref_B":"Generational stubbornness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2794.0,"score_ratio":4.75}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynctqw","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670004024,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"In some cases (though, not always, obviously) there are medical reasons for doing some of those procedures. I'm sure your local vet would be able to talk to you more about this if you're curious. Most are happy to answer a couple questions. Working dogs have different hazards than housepets that the owner and vet has to account for, additionally.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31612.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyob2g0","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670017885,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I have never heard of debarking before! What an awful thing to do. They all are but that just seems extra sinister.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17751.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyod5ao","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670018803,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":9,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16833.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iypcpjo","c_root_id_B":"iynj5y2","created_at_utc_A":1670035636,"created_at_utc_B":1670006525,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","human_ref_B":"Generational stubbornness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29111.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynqyy0","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670009703,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Not a Vet.  Most people here write about necessary conditions but nobody (only with one exception) mentioned that some Vets are doing it in cases where these procedures aren't medically required, they did them only because owners asked for these procedures being done. I think these cases are what you asked about.   We all know such Vets exist. I don't understand why a lot of people pretend such Vets don't exist and these procedures are done only when necessary.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25933.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyo3b92","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670014664,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"These procedures are illegal in some places. And now you see less tail docking and ear  trimming of dogs even in books of dog breeds.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20972.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyormqp","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670025432,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Michigan to declaw cats. No vets will do the procedure anymore.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10204.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iypaij6","c_root_id_B":"iypcpjo","created_at_utc_A":1670034537,"created_at_utc_B":1670035636,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Wait wtf there\u2019s de-barking? Are the vocal chords removed or something?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet in the US. I have not and will never perform any of those procedures unless medically necessary. I\u2019ve always hated the argument with declaws that \u201cit\u2019s better than them getting surrendered, at least I know I\u2019m doing it right, etc.\u201d For me none of those things fly because you\u2019re literally changing the way a cat walks and setting it up for arthritis. Not to mention possible litter box aversion, which will probably get them surrendered anyways by an owner that was \u201cgoing to surrender if it wasn\u2019t declawed.\u201d At the end of the day, it\u2019s pretty much about what allows you to sleep at night. Some vets do feel justified by those arguments mentioned above and feel fine doing those procedures. I personally could never justify them (unless medically necessary) and so I will never do them and will never be guilted into doing them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1099.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynctqw","c_root_id_B":"iyod5ao","created_at_utc_A":1670004024,"created_at_utc_B":1670018803,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"In some cases (though, not always, obviously) there are medical reasons for doing some of those procedures. I'm sure your local vet would be able to talk to you more about this if you're curious. Most are happy to answer a couple questions. Working dogs have different hazards than housepets that the owner and vet has to account for, additionally.","human_ref_B":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14779.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyob2g0","c_root_id_B":"iyod5ao","created_at_utc_A":1670017885,"created_at_utc_B":1670018803,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I have never heard of debarking before! What an awful thing to do. They all are but that just seems extra sinister.","human_ref_B":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":918.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyob2g0","c_root_id_B":"iynj5y2","created_at_utc_A":1670017885,"created_at_utc_B":1670006525,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I have never heard of debarking before! What an awful thing to do. They all are but that just seems extra sinister.","human_ref_B":"Generational stubbornness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11360.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynqyy0","c_root_id_B":"iyob2g0","created_at_utc_A":1670009703,"created_at_utc_B":1670017885,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Not a Vet.  Most people here write about necessary conditions but nobody (only with one exception) mentioned that some Vets are doing it in cases where these procedures aren't medically required, they did them only because owners asked for these procedures being done. I think these cases are what you asked about.   We all know such Vets exist. I don't understand why a lot of people pretend such Vets don't exist and these procedures are done only when necessary.","human_ref_B":"I have never heard of debarking before! What an awful thing to do. They all are but that just seems extra sinister.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8182.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyo3b92","c_root_id_B":"iyob2g0","created_at_utc_A":1670014664,"created_at_utc_B":1670017885,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"These procedures are illegal in some places. And now you see less tail docking and ear  trimming of dogs even in books of dog breeds.","human_ref_B":"I have never heard of debarking before! What an awful thing to do. They all are but that just seems extra sinister.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3221.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyod5ao","c_root_id_B":"iynj5y2","created_at_utc_A":1670018803,"created_at_utc_B":1670006525,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","human_ref_B":"Generational stubbornness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12278.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyod5ao","c_root_id_B":"iynqyy0","created_at_utc_A":1670018803,"created_at_utc_B":1670009703,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","human_ref_B":"Not a Vet.  Most people here write about necessary conditions but nobody (only with one exception) mentioned that some Vets are doing it in cases where these procedures aren't medically required, they did them only because owners asked for these procedures being done. I think these cases are what you asked about.   We all know such Vets exist. I don't understand why a lot of people pretend such Vets don't exist and these procedures are done only when necessary.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9100.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyod5ao","c_root_id_B":"iyo3b92","created_at_utc_A":1670018803,"created_at_utc_B":1670014664,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Why do physicians perform circumcision?  There\u2019s a lot of stuff done in all ranges of healthcare professions that isn\u2019t necessary and we don\u2019t realize until we stand back and rethink the way we do things.","human_ref_B":"These procedures are illegal in some places. And now you see less tail docking and ear  trimming of dogs even in books of dog breeds.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4139.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iynqyy0","c_root_id_B":"iypki5r","created_at_utc_A":1670009703,"created_at_utc_B":1670039601,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Not a Vet.  Most people here write about necessary conditions but nobody (only with one exception) mentioned that some Vets are doing it in cases where these procedures aren't medically required, they did them only because owners asked for these procedures being done. I think these cases are what you asked about.   We all know such Vets exist. I don't understand why a lot of people pretend such Vets don't exist and these procedures are done only when necessary.","human_ref_B":"I know vets who will declaw a cat specifically when there is an overwhelmingly large number of surrenders, if the adopting individual requests it. But I also know adoption agencies who will turn down your adoption\/simply throw away your application if you mention wanting to do it. And vets who are associated with said agencies will refuse to give you back the adopted cat if you try to bring it in for the procedure. They are dead serious about the dangers and cruelty of declawing. But there are people who still declaw their cats to this day so there have to be vets out there willing to perform it. Whatever their reasoning is, we\u2019ll never know unless we ask those vets directly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29898.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iyo3b92","c_root_id_B":"iypki5r","created_at_utc_A":1670014664,"created_at_utc_B":1670039601,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"These procedures are illegal in some places. And now you see less tail docking and ear  trimming of dogs even in books of dog breeds.","human_ref_B":"I know vets who will declaw a cat specifically when there is an overwhelmingly large number of surrenders, if the adopting individual requests it. But I also know adoption agencies who will turn down your adoption\/simply throw away your application if you mention wanting to do it. And vets who are associated with said agencies will refuse to give you back the adopted cat if you try to bring it in for the procedure. They are dead serious about the dangers and cruelty of declawing. But there are people who still declaw their cats to this day so there have to be vets out there willing to perform it. Whatever their reasoning is, we\u2019ll never know unless we ask those vets directly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24937.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iypki5r","c_root_id_B":"iyormqp","created_at_utc_A":1670039601,"created_at_utc_B":1670025432,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I know vets who will declaw a cat specifically when there is an overwhelmingly large number of surrenders, if the adopting individual requests it. But I also know adoption agencies who will turn down your adoption\/simply throw away your application if you mention wanting to do it. And vets who are associated with said agencies will refuse to give you back the adopted cat if you try to bring it in for the procedure. They are dead serious about the dangers and cruelty of declawing. But there are people who still declaw their cats to this day so there have to be vets out there willing to perform it. Whatever their reasoning is, we\u2019ll never know unless we ask those vets directly.","human_ref_B":"I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Michigan to declaw cats. No vets will do the procedure anymore.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14169.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zangn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Why do some vets perform procedures such as debarking, declawing or tail docking? I know that pets are legally treated as property and there aren't nearly as many strict laws around their care the same way there is with humans. But I still find it bizarre that cosmetic or otherwise unnecessary procedures with no known medical benefit are routinely performed when they are known to cause pain, distress, anxiety or health problems.  There is so much public discourse around people being bad or cruel or unfit pet owners because they buy a cat and then declaw them because they don't want them ruining their furniture, or get their dog's debarked because they are annoyed by the sound of their noisiness. Even in situations where there might be potential benefits such as docking working dog's tails to prevent possible future injury, or declawing cats because they're aggressive and causing injury to humans, most people seem to agree that the benefits don't outweigh the pain or distress caused to the animal when other measures like behavioural training can work. But I've rarely seen people address the fact that vets are performing these unethical procedures, in which case surely they bear as much responsibility as the owners?  Why do some vets perform these procedures? Is it about the money or keeping the owners happy? Or do they genuinely feel these procudes improve animals' quality of life?  As a vet, would you ever perform procedures like these? Why \/ why not? Would you judge other vets who take the opposite view?","c_root_id_A":"iypki5r","c_root_id_B":"iypaij6","created_at_utc_A":1670039601,"created_at_utc_B":1670034537,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I know vets who will declaw a cat specifically when there is an overwhelmingly large number of surrenders, if the adopting individual requests it. But I also know adoption agencies who will turn down your adoption\/simply throw away your application if you mention wanting to do it. And vets who are associated with said agencies will refuse to give you back the adopted cat if you try to bring it in for the procedure. They are dead serious about the dangers and cruelty of declawing. But there are people who still declaw their cats to this day so there have to be vets out there willing to perform it. Whatever their reasoning is, we\u2019ll never know unless we ask those vets directly.","human_ref_B":"Wait wtf there\u2019s de-barking? Are the vocal chords removed or something?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5064.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xleeoc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"18 year old cat loud-meows before & after using litter box, almost like an announcement? Shes my only pet. She's got kidney disease but there's nothing prescribed except diet kibble. She doesn't eat it so at her advanced age I just let her eat what she's happy with (wet food and dry). I've told the vet about this loud meowing behavior with the litter box, but she just says, \"Huh.\", as if stumped or unconcerned. Litter box is very clean and well maintained. Accidents outside of litterbox are only poop if she is constipated, and that's very rare. No peeing outside of the box, and she doesn't bury her waste.  Any ideas why she's calling out...? Any other way to approach this with the vet? She sees her vet on Monday. Thanks for taking your time to read and consider Geara cat \ud83d\ude4f!","c_root_id_A":"ipjfavu","c_root_id_B":"ipjbtub","created_at_utc_A":1663891958,"created_at_utc_B":1663890220,"score_A":122,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. I lost my 21 year old kitty in May. The last two years he had arthritis in his hips.  I changed his litter box to a sweater box (wider and longer than a regular litter box) because I read that senior cats sometimes have issues assuming the position to defecate. He seemed much more comfortable with that box.  Anything to bring a little more ease. Edit: the box was the short plastic box that you might store sweaters in under your bed.  It was about 6 inches tall and 16 by 24. He didn't have to hunch down as much","human_ref_B":"I have no answers, but our big boy likes to howwwwl after leaving the litter box lol.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1738.0,"score_ratio":2.44}
{"post_id":"xleeoc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"18 year old cat loud-meows before & after using litter box, almost like an announcement? Shes my only pet. She's got kidney disease but there's nothing prescribed except diet kibble. She doesn't eat it so at her advanced age I just let her eat what she's happy with (wet food and dry). I've told the vet about this loud meowing behavior with the litter box, but she just says, \"Huh.\", as if stumped or unconcerned. Litter box is very clean and well maintained. Accidents outside of litterbox are only poop if she is constipated, and that's very rare. No peeing outside of the box, and she doesn't bury her waste.  Any ideas why she's calling out...? Any other way to approach this with the vet? She sees her vet on Monday. Thanks for taking your time to read and consider Geara cat \ud83d\ude4f!","c_root_id_A":"ipjssyo","c_root_id_B":"ipjbtub","created_at_utc_A":1663898519,"created_at_utc_B":1663890220,"score_A":65,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Definately time for a vet visit to check for kidneystones or UTI.","human_ref_B":"I have no answers, but our big boy likes to howwwwl after leaving the litter box lol.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8299.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"xleeoc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"18 year old cat loud-meows before & after using litter box, almost like an announcement? Shes my only pet. She's got kidney disease but there's nothing prescribed except diet kibble. She doesn't eat it so at her advanced age I just let her eat what she's happy with (wet food and dry). I've told the vet about this loud meowing behavior with the litter box, but she just says, \"Huh.\", as if stumped or unconcerned. Litter box is very clean and well maintained. Accidents outside of litterbox are only poop if she is constipated, and that's very rare. No peeing outside of the box, and she doesn't bury her waste.  Any ideas why she's calling out...? Any other way to approach this with the vet? She sees her vet on Monday. Thanks for taking your time to read and consider Geara cat \ud83d\ude4f!","c_root_id_A":"ipkc5dt","c_root_id_B":"ipkjbj1","created_at_utc_A":1663909902,"created_at_utc_B":1663915577,"score_A":7,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Does she have regular (timing- and consistency-wise) bowel movements? How\u2019s her hydration levels?","human_ref_B":"She definitely needs to see the vet to check for a UTI, bladder stones, or even kidney issues or arthritis.   Since your vet visit is coming up, keep an eye on how often she is urinating, if she\u2019s straining, how much urine she is producing, try to see if you notice any blood or mucus, and keep an eye on how much she is drinking. Also take note of any other times she may be crying out or having difficulties such as going up stairs or jumping. Those are all helpful things for the veterinary staff to know! I also recommend trying to get a video of it to show the vet if that\u2019s possible for you! It seems kinda weird to video your pet using the box, but it can show the vet exactly what she\u2019s doing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5675.0,"score_ratio":3.8571428571}
{"post_id":"xleeoc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"18 year old cat loud-meows before & after using litter box, almost like an announcement? Shes my only pet. She's got kidney disease but there's nothing prescribed except diet kibble. She doesn't eat it so at her advanced age I just let her eat what she's happy with (wet food and dry). I've told the vet about this loud meowing behavior with the litter box, but she just says, \"Huh.\", as if stumped or unconcerned. Litter box is very clean and well maintained. Accidents outside of litterbox are only poop if she is constipated, and that's very rare. No peeing outside of the box, and she doesn't bury her waste.  Any ideas why she's calling out...? Any other way to approach this with the vet? She sees her vet on Monday. Thanks for taking your time to read and consider Geara cat \ud83d\ude4f!","c_root_id_A":"ipk6178","c_root_id_B":"ipkjbj1","created_at_utc_A":1663905709,"created_at_utc_B":1663915577,"score_A":4,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"would definitely ask a vet about arthritis","human_ref_B":"She definitely needs to see the vet to check for a UTI, bladder stones, or even kidney issues or arthritis.   Since your vet visit is coming up, keep an eye on how often she is urinating, if she\u2019s straining, how much urine she is producing, try to see if you notice any blood or mucus, and keep an eye on how much she is drinking. Also take note of any other times she may be crying out or having difficulties such as going up stairs or jumping. Those are all helpful things for the veterinary staff to know! I also recommend trying to get a video of it to show the vet if that\u2019s possible for you! It seems kinda weird to video your pet using the box, but it can show the vet exactly what she\u2019s doing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9868.0,"score_ratio":6.75}
{"post_id":"xleeoc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"18 year old cat loud-meows before & after using litter box, almost like an announcement? Shes my only pet. She's got kidney disease but there's nothing prescribed except diet kibble. She doesn't eat it so at her advanced age I just let her eat what she's happy with (wet food and dry). I've told the vet about this loud meowing behavior with the litter box, but she just says, \"Huh.\", as if stumped or unconcerned. Litter box is very clean and well maintained. Accidents outside of litterbox are only poop if she is constipated, and that's very rare. No peeing outside of the box, and she doesn't bury her waste.  Any ideas why she's calling out...? Any other way to approach this with the vet? She sees her vet on Monday. Thanks for taking your time to read and consider Geara cat \ud83d\ude4f!","c_root_id_A":"ipkc5dt","c_root_id_B":"ipk6178","created_at_utc_A":1663909902,"created_at_utc_B":1663905709,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Does she have regular (timing- and consistency-wise) bowel movements? How\u2019s her hydration levels?","human_ref_B":"would definitely ask a vet about arthritis","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4193.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"i6cncn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog has been \u201cstargazing\u201d since we heard a loud explosion. What tests should I ask for at the vet? Hey all,  A few days ago I was in the yard with both my dogs and there was an extremely loud explosion nearby. It was loud enough to make me duck and cover my head instinctively, and one of my dogs, a 2yr old GSD mix, was terrified by it (unsurprisingly my golden retriever was fine).   On the way back into the house, my GSD mix was staring at the ceiling repeatedly, I assumed he was just freaked out. Since then he\u2019s been \u2018stargazing\u2019 constantly- staring up at the ceiling suddenly as though he\u2019s seen a fly, but there\u2019s nothing there. He also seems generally more withdrawn and fearful than usual, but it\u2019s hard to tell as he\u2019s a pretty independent dog usually and can be anxiety prone. My partner says she hasn\u2019t noticed it but I\u2019ve been with him and walking him a lot more this week. He really just seems different, my gut is telling me something is off with him.  I\u2019m concerned as good old Dr Google tells me there could be a huge range of underlying issues causing this, from neurological to gastrointestinal or simply behavioral. It started after the explosion but it could just be coincidence. What with our vet being a super busy city vets operating on a drop off basis right now, communication with them has become harder, so I\u2019d love to be able to say \u201chey, could you check him for these things\u201d, since his symptoms appear so mild. Cost isn\u2019t an issue because we have insurance.   What should I ask for- and how worried should I be?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"g0v3fvf","c_root_id_B":"g0v505p","created_at_utc_A":1596949004,"created_at_utc_B":1596950201,"score_A":99,"score_B":172,"human_ref_A":"When you find him star gazing. Get his attention by saying something that will get his attention right away. No yelling. Something nice. See if this helps break the habit of stargazing. If it didn't at all then you should continue neurological vet care.","human_ref_B":"I would recommend getting a video of these stargazing episodes - it can be immensely helpful in diagnosing the issue, since animals can behave differently at the vet and that may make it difficult to know what the exact issue is.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1197.0,"score_ratio":1.7373737374}
{"post_id":"i6cncn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog has been \u201cstargazing\u201d since we heard a loud explosion. What tests should I ask for at the vet? Hey all,  A few days ago I was in the yard with both my dogs and there was an extremely loud explosion nearby. It was loud enough to make me duck and cover my head instinctively, and one of my dogs, a 2yr old GSD mix, was terrified by it (unsurprisingly my golden retriever was fine).   On the way back into the house, my GSD mix was staring at the ceiling repeatedly, I assumed he was just freaked out. Since then he\u2019s been \u2018stargazing\u2019 constantly- staring up at the ceiling suddenly as though he\u2019s seen a fly, but there\u2019s nothing there. He also seems generally more withdrawn and fearful than usual, but it\u2019s hard to tell as he\u2019s a pretty independent dog usually and can be anxiety prone. My partner says she hasn\u2019t noticed it but I\u2019ve been with him and walking him a lot more this week. He really just seems different, my gut is telling me something is off with him.  I\u2019m concerned as good old Dr Google tells me there could be a huge range of underlying issues causing this, from neurological to gastrointestinal or simply behavioral. It started after the explosion but it could just be coincidence. What with our vet being a super busy city vets operating on a drop off basis right now, communication with them has become harder, so I\u2019d love to be able to say \u201chey, could you check him for these things\u201d, since his symptoms appear so mild. Cost isn\u2019t an issue because we have insurance.   What should I ask for- and how worried should I be?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"g0v24p8","c_root_id_B":"g0v505p","created_at_utc_A":1596948040,"created_at_utc_B":1596950201,"score_A":64,"score_B":172,"human_ref_A":"Taking a video of him \u201cstargazing\u201d could be very helpful and better than describing it over the phone to your vet. Things like frequency and if it occurs during specific times (walks, when the TV is on, morning\/evening, etc.) could also be very informative to your vet about what could possibly be going on","human_ref_B":"I would recommend getting a video of these stargazing episodes - it can be immensely helpful in diagnosing the issue, since animals can behave differently at the vet and that may make it difficult to know what the exact issue is.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2161.0,"score_ratio":2.6875}
{"post_id":"i6cncn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog has been \u201cstargazing\u201d since we heard a loud explosion. What tests should I ask for at the vet? Hey all,  A few days ago I was in the yard with both my dogs and there was an extremely loud explosion nearby. It was loud enough to make me duck and cover my head instinctively, and one of my dogs, a 2yr old GSD mix, was terrified by it (unsurprisingly my golden retriever was fine).   On the way back into the house, my GSD mix was staring at the ceiling repeatedly, I assumed he was just freaked out. Since then he\u2019s been \u2018stargazing\u2019 constantly- staring up at the ceiling suddenly as though he\u2019s seen a fly, but there\u2019s nothing there. He also seems generally more withdrawn and fearful than usual, but it\u2019s hard to tell as he\u2019s a pretty independent dog usually and can be anxiety prone. My partner says she hasn\u2019t noticed it but I\u2019ve been with him and walking him a lot more this week. He really just seems different, my gut is telling me something is off with him.  I\u2019m concerned as good old Dr Google tells me there could be a huge range of underlying issues causing this, from neurological to gastrointestinal or simply behavioral. It started after the explosion but it could just be coincidence. What with our vet being a super busy city vets operating on a drop off basis right now, communication with them has become harder, so I\u2019d love to be able to say \u201chey, could you check him for these things\u201d, since his symptoms appear so mild. Cost isn\u2019t an issue because we have insurance.   What should I ask for- and how worried should I be?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"g0v3fvf","c_root_id_B":"g0v24p8","created_at_utc_A":1596949004,"created_at_utc_B":1596948040,"score_A":99,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"When you find him star gazing. Get his attention by saying something that will get his attention right away. No yelling. Something nice. See if this helps break the habit of stargazing. If it didn't at all then you should continue neurological vet care.","human_ref_B":"Taking a video of him \u201cstargazing\u201d could be very helpful and better than describing it over the phone to your vet. Things like frequency and if it occurs during specific times (walks, when the TV is on, morning\/evening, etc.) could also be very informative to your vet about what could possibly be going on","labels":1,"seconds_difference":964.0,"score_ratio":1.546875}
{"post_id":"i6cncn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog has been \u201cstargazing\u201d since we heard a loud explosion. What tests should I ask for at the vet? Hey all,  A few days ago I was in the yard with both my dogs and there was an extremely loud explosion nearby. It was loud enough to make me duck and cover my head instinctively, and one of my dogs, a 2yr old GSD mix, was terrified by it (unsurprisingly my golden retriever was fine).   On the way back into the house, my GSD mix was staring at the ceiling repeatedly, I assumed he was just freaked out. Since then he\u2019s been \u2018stargazing\u2019 constantly- staring up at the ceiling suddenly as though he\u2019s seen a fly, but there\u2019s nothing there. He also seems generally more withdrawn and fearful than usual, but it\u2019s hard to tell as he\u2019s a pretty independent dog usually and can be anxiety prone. My partner says she hasn\u2019t noticed it but I\u2019ve been with him and walking him a lot more this week. He really just seems different, my gut is telling me something is off with him.  I\u2019m concerned as good old Dr Google tells me there could be a huge range of underlying issues causing this, from neurological to gastrointestinal or simply behavioral. It started after the explosion but it could just be coincidence. What with our vet being a super busy city vets operating on a drop off basis right now, communication with them has become harder, so I\u2019d love to be able to say \u201chey, could you check him for these things\u201d, since his symptoms appear so mild. Cost isn\u2019t an issue because we have insurance.   What should I ask for- and how worried should I be?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"g0vadx8","c_root_id_B":"g0w75fs","created_at_utc_A":1596954644,"created_at_utc_B":1596983150,"score_A":4,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Are you sure the dog has no wounds? No small cuts, no swelling or bruising?","human_ref_B":"If you find that there is nothing medically wrong, then I suggest helping your dog pile new, warm, fun memories on top of the old ones.  Play with him a lot. Long walks, find places in the woods where you can walk and he can sniff to his heart\u2019s content. Always lots of encouragement and love even if he doesn\u2019t seem to need it in the moment. Just do it. Keep doing it.  Pile new, novel, happy memories on top of the scary memory with a lot of touching and encouragement involved.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":28506.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"wgsyi2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Are vets purposefully being more explicit with owners about the cost of things lately? I have a livestock vet and a vet for my dogs and I notice both lately have been a lot more explicit with me beforehand about the cost of things and have suggested alternatives \"if I want to save money.\" My dogs' vet has also been giving me 25-30% discounts off my bill but I didn't ask for that and am not sure why. Maybe because I am grandfathered in under older prices? I see both vets probably 1-2 times a month for various things and I don't recall it ever being this way up until the past few months. I used to just be given a bill and paid it.      Yesterday at the vet's I overheard a client making a big fuss over her bill with the front desk for at least 20 minutes. So I'm guessing with inflation that people are making even more of a fuss than usual over the costs and that's why vets are being more upfront and suggesting alternatives?     I guess the reason I ask is one of my dogs has a surgery coming up that I'm very worried about since she is a little slow to clot her blood. I want to make sure the vet knows I really don't care how much it costs so to please do everything needed for the best outcome. I have insurance on everybody anyway. Is there a good way to stress this to the vet that is not annoying? I know you sign a form beforehand that if they need lifesaving care or a blood transfusion go ahead, but I want to stress DO NOT WAIT lol. I love this dog.","c_root_id_A":"ij203qm","c_root_id_B":"ij1m846","created_at_utc_A":1659708422,"created_at_utc_B":1659701965,"score_A":104,"score_B":86,"human_ref_A":"Prices of goods and services in vet med are going up sharply at the same time as people have less discretionary money to spend. I do inventory for my clinic and I\u2019m receiving price increases from manufactures at least twice a month. I, and my vets, have tried to be extremely transparent with our clients about costs before we start treatment because no one likes a shock at check out that can\u2019t be paid. However, if you tell your vet \u201cI have insurance on my pet and money is not a concern\u201d they will get the message in a nice way. Good luck to your kiddo for their surgery!","human_ref_B":"Honestly just the simple statement, \"hey I've got pet insurance, you have full permission to do whatever necessary. Money is no concern.\" Will do the trick. There's usually no record if you do or don't have insurance in my experience, so reminding them of that whenever they're giving you options is helpful!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6457.0,"score_ratio":1.2093023256}
{"post_id":"wgsyi2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Are vets purposefully being more explicit with owners about the cost of things lately? I have a livestock vet and a vet for my dogs and I notice both lately have been a lot more explicit with me beforehand about the cost of things and have suggested alternatives \"if I want to save money.\" My dogs' vet has also been giving me 25-30% discounts off my bill but I didn't ask for that and am not sure why. Maybe because I am grandfathered in under older prices? I see both vets probably 1-2 times a month for various things and I don't recall it ever being this way up until the past few months. I used to just be given a bill and paid it.      Yesterday at the vet's I overheard a client making a big fuss over her bill with the front desk for at least 20 minutes. So I'm guessing with inflation that people are making even more of a fuss than usual over the costs and that's why vets are being more upfront and suggesting alternatives?     I guess the reason I ask is one of my dogs has a surgery coming up that I'm very worried about since she is a little slow to clot her blood. I want to make sure the vet knows I really don't care how much it costs so to please do everything needed for the best outcome. I have insurance on everybody anyway. Is there a good way to stress this to the vet that is not annoying? I know you sign a form beforehand that if they need lifesaving care or a blood transfusion go ahead, but I want to stress DO NOT WAIT lol. I love this dog.","c_root_id_A":"ij2pui9","c_root_id_B":"ij2lgfc","created_at_utc_A":1659718502,"created_at_utc_B":1659716830,"score_A":22,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Agree with all the other comments and honestly I understand vets doing this. Loads of clients struggle financially (especially with larger bills such as for surgery) and people regularly get angry when it's a large amount. Eventually this means you get very cautious when talking about money and try to be as transparent as possible so you don't get yelled at afterwards. I also do this so that my staff at the front desk don't have to deal with it, as most of the yelling happens there and not with the vet.   That being said, you sound like a wonderful client to have, and I'm sure they know it. Especially if a client has been in more times than I can count and it's someone who treats my staff and their pets well, we cut corners on the bill (never on the treatment!), (e.g. writing 10 minutes instead of 15 or a short check up instead of a full consultation). It's not great from a business perspective but it does often make us feel like we're giving back a little bit to the people who are good to us. However, it's always good to let your clinic know that money isn't an issue, not because it would change their advise or plan, but because it relieves some of the stress of having to advise a treatment that's expensive.","human_ref_B":"I can tell you honestly that as long as you signed the papers if something happens on the table to someone\u2019s pet the team doesn\u2019t stop to decide what life saving step is cheaper for the client, they will just do everything in their power to save them. Hope everything goes well with your baby\u2019s surgery and that she has a speedy recovery!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1672.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"kog6sg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog was given 8 hotdogs will he be ok Dog, German shepherd pit mix, possibly  some other breeds, but I know at least alot of those 2. 9 months not yet nutured between  40 and 50 lbs Only change is drinking more water than usual,  Hes eating food fine, I decreased the amount I normally give him to semi make up for the extra calories. He will sometimes be given a couple small slices of hotdog  but never more than equals half a hotdog in one day, and usually  I use peices of chicken breasts and parsnip and carrot slices for treats instead. He eats 3 cups of food a day sometimes a little less depending on if I'm doing a lot of training but I try to keep the treats healthy.  I was out running errands  and my aunt came over, previously  I told her the way to get my skittish puppyto to quickly  warm up was to give a few peices  of hotdog or chicken to him and she gave him a whole pack of hotdogs, that's alot of sodium so I'm worried. I might be overreacting  and that just giving  him plenty of water and more bathroom  breaks than usual  is sufficient  to flush  the sodium out, I just want to double check that hes gonna be ok","c_root_id_A":"ghs49so","c_root_id_B":"ghscj2e","created_at_utc_A":1609549967,"created_at_utc_B":1609554538,"score_A":5,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet - but should you still have concerns, you should be able to call your areas emergency vet and ask and they will be honest about if he should get medical attention. I think the answers you got here are correct. But just for future reference that\u2019s an option and it\u2019s often free.","human_ref_B":"What we worry about most is pancreatitis , which is caused by human food given to dogs. Monitor for any signs of vomiting or diarrhea snd make sure there\u2019s access to water. If anything strange \/ out of the ordinary happens call your vet \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4571.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"kog6sg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog was given 8 hotdogs will he be ok Dog, German shepherd pit mix, possibly  some other breeds, but I know at least alot of those 2. 9 months not yet nutured between  40 and 50 lbs Only change is drinking more water than usual,  Hes eating food fine, I decreased the amount I normally give him to semi make up for the extra calories. He will sometimes be given a couple small slices of hotdog  but never more than equals half a hotdog in one day, and usually  I use peices of chicken breasts and parsnip and carrot slices for treats instead. He eats 3 cups of food a day sometimes a little less depending on if I'm doing a lot of training but I try to keep the treats healthy.  I was out running errands  and my aunt came over, previously  I told her the way to get my skittish puppyto to quickly  warm up was to give a few peices  of hotdog or chicken to him and she gave him a whole pack of hotdogs, that's alot of sodium so I'm worried. I might be overreacting  and that just giving  him plenty of water and more bathroom  breaks than usual  is sufficient  to flush  the sodium out, I just want to double check that hes gonna be ok","c_root_id_A":"ghsr2cw","c_root_id_B":"ghs49so","created_at_utc_A":1609562685,"created_at_utc_B":1609549967,"score_A":10,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"As long as hes not eating 8 hot dogs everyday, he should be ok. He might have diarrhea bc of the sudden large amount but you can try rice and pumpkin for that","human_ref_B":"Not a vet - but should you still have concerns, you should be able to call your areas emergency vet and ask and they will be honest about if he should get medical attention. I think the answers you got here are correct. But just for future reference that\u2019s an option and it\u2019s often free.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12718.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"j4t790","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My husky has been recumbent for 7 days following a seizure and hospitalization. How long to hold on to hope? Canine, Siberian Husky, Male, Neutered, 7.5 years old. His current load of medicine (twice daily) is 1500 mg Keppra ER, 200 mg Zonisamide, and post hospitalization an additional 100 mg of Phenobarbital.   We\u2019re in Northern California.  My poor boy has had his struggles with epilepsy since he was approximately two years old. He was hospitalized following a significantly long seizure on Sunday. Upon admission his temperature was 106.   We brought him home on Tuesday with instructions for recumbency care and have watched over him diligently since, awaiting the moment he would stand up and begin his journey back to being a normal dog.  That moment hasn\u2019t happened. More concerning is that his condition has been stagnant with little to no improvement. His eyes, while able to follow motion, are vacant and his pupils have remained dilated. He is startled by touch and does not appear to recognize me, nor does he wag his tail. Moments of restful calm are intermixed with otherworldly screaming and distress. He is docile enough but has a voracious appetite for food and water. It\u2019s easier to get him to take his meds now than it was before his seizure.   Our neurologist told us he would need time, but it was implied he should already be trying to stand. We have thoroughly tried to get him up, even if just on his front legs to no avail. His paddling is intermittent and seems instinctual rather than intentional. As I type this out I understand the logical conclusion. I have held on to hope for any sign that his cognitive function is improving, but I fear he is now permanently living in torturous confusion. The only thing I fear more than his suffering is that I am giving up to soon.   I have never cried this much in my entire life. He was the most noble, gentle, goober of a husky anyone could ever ask for.   I know this sub is for specific advice, so here are my questions for this awesome vet community:  Do you believe my dog is suffering?  Have you seen dogs with stories like mine make a comeback?  I understand how difficult it must be to advise someone to put down a beloved animal, but what would you do in my position?  Is there such a thing as donating your animal\u2019s remains for research?","c_root_id_A":"g7nd61l","c_root_id_B":"g7mx6hk","created_at_utc_A":1601801457,"created_at_utc_B":1601795363,"score_A":59,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"I would reach out to either your regular vet (neurologist if you can get in touch with them) and go through your concerns. They may ask you to bring your boy in for another exam to gauge whether his clinical neuro state has improved or deteriorated from when he was discharged.   As far as donating remains for research you want to get in touch with your local university vet school and ask them whether they are aware of any current projects.  Im so sorry that you are in this situation. I think its important to remember that whatever decision you make it is human nature to think of the 'what ifs' but its also important to acknowledge that deciding to let him go is not 'giving up', it is a heartbreaking choice but it is made because its what is in your boys best interests.   Im sorry this is not particularly specific advice basically I would strongly encourage you to reach out to your vet as they're best placed to advise you about potential prognosis. It helps to make a list of questions so that you can reference it while speaking with them to make sure you cover the important info especially when emotions are high.","human_ref_B":"Hug your pups closer folks. We all feel you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6094.0,"score_ratio":1.3720930233}
{"post_id":"erju54","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My Cat may be an Hermaphrodite : Update. Hey all  I\u2019m not sure whether this is allowed in this subreddit but it got a decent amount of upvotes so I thought I would update.   TLDR below.   What I didn\u2019t mention in my first post was that my Artie has a sister, Sadie, who went for her spay on the same day as his would be neuter.   When they shaved Sadie they found what looked like what could have been a tattoo; regardless they went in for the spay and found she had no reproductive organs leaving them to believe she had already been spayed.   My little babies were found in Mauritius, they were the two survivors of a three kitten litter who were found with their badly injured mum after they had been badly attacked by another cat (or possibly a dog). The mother and litter were feral strays and our friend found them whilst on vacation and simply couldn\u2019t leave them to die. After a lot of stress, pressure to the local animal authorities and money (a lot of money), we managed to get them saved and taken into a foster home until they could be flown over to England.   We paid for the sterilisation of the mother and the vaccinations only of Arthur and Sadie, all paper work and medical bills stated that only the mother had been sterilised.  After today\u2019s discovery, we texted the foster mother who revealed the kittens HAD been sterilised (far earlier than would ever be done here in the UK) and for some reason no record was kept of it ever happening and no bill was charged for the surgery so we could never have known.   Fortunately (?) for Arthur, when no barbs were discovered on his underdeveloped penis we elected not to go through with exploratory surgery so baby boy is fine and happy. Unfortunately, before we realised they had already been sterilised, Sadie has undergone what would have been her sterilisation and has had to endure an unnecessary surgery.   I love these little gremlins more than life itself and it\u2019s truly broken my heart that they have had to go through this when it never should have happened. Sadie is recovering although she is absolutely adamant against wearing the cone or the Plan B compression vest we got her so she\u2019s gone through an incredible stressful time.   These two babies have had the hardest start in life, endured an attack, several homes, vet visits, a plane ride, surgery\u2019s and more and they are only five months old. Yet they remain the most loving, funny, affectionate, forgiving, tiny little gorgeous things I\u2019ve ever seen in my entire life.   Thanks to those who commented on my first post, I promise you all on this sub that no two kittens will ever be greater loved than I love these two cowpokes.   TLDR; not intersex, just early ball removal.","c_root_id_A":"ff4r8pv","c_root_id_B":"ff4rcoh","created_at_utc_A":1579570515,"created_at_utc_B":1579570589,"score_A":19,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"That's awesome, thank you so much for the update. Mystery solved!! I hope Sadie settles soon. She shouldn't need a buster collar or vest for long, especially if her pain relief is good. If the surgical wound is pain-free, she's much less likely to bother at it. Although I suppose she's gone through a little more than a normal spay, more of a look-and-see.","human_ref_B":"Also, the cardinal sin of reddit. You've mentioned cats - we need pics!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":74.0,"score_ratio":3.3157894737}
{"post_id":"erju54","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My Cat may be an Hermaphrodite : Update. Hey all  I\u2019m not sure whether this is allowed in this subreddit but it got a decent amount of upvotes so I thought I would update.   TLDR below.   What I didn\u2019t mention in my first post was that my Artie has a sister, Sadie, who went for her spay on the same day as his would be neuter.   When they shaved Sadie they found what looked like what could have been a tattoo; regardless they went in for the spay and found she had no reproductive organs leaving them to believe she had already been spayed.   My little babies were found in Mauritius, they were the two survivors of a three kitten litter who were found with their badly injured mum after they had been badly attacked by another cat (or possibly a dog). The mother and litter were feral strays and our friend found them whilst on vacation and simply couldn\u2019t leave them to die. After a lot of stress, pressure to the local animal authorities and money (a lot of money), we managed to get them saved and taken into a foster home until they could be flown over to England.   We paid for the sterilisation of the mother and the vaccinations only of Arthur and Sadie, all paper work and medical bills stated that only the mother had been sterilised.  After today\u2019s discovery, we texted the foster mother who revealed the kittens HAD been sterilised (far earlier than would ever be done here in the UK) and for some reason no record was kept of it ever happening and no bill was charged for the surgery so we could never have known.   Fortunately (?) for Arthur, when no barbs were discovered on his underdeveloped penis we elected not to go through with exploratory surgery so baby boy is fine and happy. Unfortunately, before we realised they had already been sterilised, Sadie has undergone what would have been her sterilisation and has had to endure an unnecessary surgery.   I love these little gremlins more than life itself and it\u2019s truly broken my heart that they have had to go through this when it never should have happened. Sadie is recovering although she is absolutely adamant against wearing the cone or the Plan B compression vest we got her so she\u2019s gone through an incredible stressful time.   These two babies have had the hardest start in life, endured an attack, several homes, vet visits, a plane ride, surgery\u2019s and more and they are only five months old. Yet they remain the most loving, funny, affectionate, forgiving, tiny little gorgeous things I\u2019ve ever seen in my entire life.   Thanks to those who commented on my first post, I promise you all on this sub that no two kittens will ever be greater loved than I love these two cowpokes.   TLDR; not intersex, just early ball removal.","c_root_id_A":"ff5bb25","c_root_id_B":"ff53r3k","created_at_utc_A":1579586026,"created_at_utc_B":1579579410,"score_A":16,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My husbands name is arthur and our daughters is sadie...just had to point that out lol","human_ref_B":"I glad all is well at least! Here in the US it is recommended that kittens are fixed at 6 months but I often see fosters fixing their kittens at 2 months, it unsettled me.  How is the mother? Does she have a home?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6616.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"wrlw57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Sloppy Euthanasia performed on our dog Our small town vet is closing in a month (likely due to staffing issues). Things have gone down hill over the last couple years, but we kept giving them business in hopes that things would get better. Our dog (Pug, 12 years old) was diagnosed with cancer (with the help of a larger veterinary hospital), it had spread to his lungs, and we decided we would put him down before his quality of life got worse.  We go in for our scheduled appointment, there\u2019s other dogs coming in and out of appointments, they\u2019re about 10 mins late to call us back. Meanwhile we\u2019re crying because we have already said our goodbyes, and he is anxiously sniffing everything in the lobby and giving himself strained breathing. We\u2019re finally called back, the vet comes to our dog on the floor, she pets him for a solid minute without saying a word- we\u2019re just in shock at this point.  She gives him the anesthesia, and she walks out of the room... a couple minutes later, he\u2019s asleep, in a pile of drool on the cold floor\u2026 I\u2019m confused and sobbing at this point. Everything feels wrong. At this point I wanted to pick him up and walk him right out.  She comes back in after 10-15 minutes, and attempts to give him the final shot\u2026. It doesn\u2019t work for some reason so she switches legs, it doesn\u2019t work, there\u2019s blood dripping all over him and her, she\u2019s not saying ANYTHING. Finally the next attempt was successful. My mom thought she saw him growl when the vet was poking him multiple times. His facial muscles were still twitching when we left him in the room. Our hearts are broken because we think he died scared, and in pain. It was so important for this to go smoothly for us and for him. He was so special to us. We feel awful for not taking him elsewhere. I\u2019ve read things like \u201cthe anesthesia makes it impossible to interpret pain\u201d  Can you guys please reassure me that he died in a painless sleep and that the experience was shitty for my Mom and me, but not necessarily our poor pup.","c_root_id_A":"ikv8xo1","c_root_id_B":"ikv88ji","created_at_utc_A":1660867489,"created_at_utc_B":1660867183,"score_A":33,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"There was definitely poor communication. The first injection is sedation. The animal's eyes stay open a lot of the time and sometimes they even snore. Once they're sedated they don't feel anything. 10 minutes really isn't a long wait and just because animals were going in and out before you has nothing to do with the availability of the doctor for your specific appointment. So I wouldn't judge too harshly on that aspect, but the lack of communication isn't easy for a grieving family. I'm sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry to hear about your experience. What I can say is your pup felt no pain and knew that his loved ones were with him. In the end, that\u2019s all that matters. You gave him a fantastic life and loved him unconditionally, just like he loved you and your family. Remember the good memories you had and don\u2019t worry about how the vet acted today, there\u2019s nothing you can do to change what happened.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":306.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wrlw57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Sloppy Euthanasia performed on our dog Our small town vet is closing in a month (likely due to staffing issues). Things have gone down hill over the last couple years, but we kept giving them business in hopes that things would get better. Our dog (Pug, 12 years old) was diagnosed with cancer (with the help of a larger veterinary hospital), it had spread to his lungs, and we decided we would put him down before his quality of life got worse.  We go in for our scheduled appointment, there\u2019s other dogs coming in and out of appointments, they\u2019re about 10 mins late to call us back. Meanwhile we\u2019re crying because we have already said our goodbyes, and he is anxiously sniffing everything in the lobby and giving himself strained breathing. We\u2019re finally called back, the vet comes to our dog on the floor, she pets him for a solid minute without saying a word- we\u2019re just in shock at this point.  She gives him the anesthesia, and she walks out of the room... a couple minutes later, he\u2019s asleep, in a pile of drool on the cold floor\u2026 I\u2019m confused and sobbing at this point. Everything feels wrong. At this point I wanted to pick him up and walk him right out.  She comes back in after 10-15 minutes, and attempts to give him the final shot\u2026. It doesn\u2019t work for some reason so she switches legs, it doesn\u2019t work, there\u2019s blood dripping all over him and her, she\u2019s not saying ANYTHING. Finally the next attempt was successful. My mom thought she saw him growl when the vet was poking him multiple times. His facial muscles were still twitching when we left him in the room. Our hearts are broken because we think he died scared, and in pain. It was so important for this to go smoothly for us and for him. He was so special to us. We feel awful for not taking him elsewhere. I\u2019ve read things like \u201cthe anesthesia makes it impossible to interpret pain\u201d  Can you guys please reassure me that he died in a painless sleep and that the experience was shitty for my Mom and me, but not necessarily our poor pup.","c_root_id_A":"ikv88ji","c_root_id_B":"ikvan53","created_at_utc_A":1660867183,"created_at_utc_B":1660868249,"score_A":11,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry to hear about your experience. What I can say is your pup felt no pain and knew that his loved ones were with him. In the end, that\u2019s all that matters. You gave him a fantastic life and loved him unconditionally, just like he loved you and your family. Remember the good memories you had and don\u2019t worry about how the vet acted today, there\u2019s nothing you can do to change what happened.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but my senior rescue dog is my best mate. I know we won't have anywhere near as much time as I want \/need with him. He's been utterly wonderful for me.  So this had me in tears. I'm so incredibly sorry for the experience you went through.  I've had to let dogs go before, and it's just awful. Making the hardest decision, questioning your choice, the guilt etc.  Once we've made the hardest decision we could ever make for their best interests even though it kills us, it should be the most gentle, loving and respectful passing possible.  I'm so sorry this didn't happen for you. I'm gutted for you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1066.0,"score_ratio":1.4545454545}
{"post_id":"wrlw57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Sloppy Euthanasia performed on our dog Our small town vet is closing in a month (likely due to staffing issues). Things have gone down hill over the last couple years, but we kept giving them business in hopes that things would get better. Our dog (Pug, 12 years old) was diagnosed with cancer (with the help of a larger veterinary hospital), it had spread to his lungs, and we decided we would put him down before his quality of life got worse.  We go in for our scheduled appointment, there\u2019s other dogs coming in and out of appointments, they\u2019re about 10 mins late to call us back. Meanwhile we\u2019re crying because we have already said our goodbyes, and he is anxiously sniffing everything in the lobby and giving himself strained breathing. We\u2019re finally called back, the vet comes to our dog on the floor, she pets him for a solid minute without saying a word- we\u2019re just in shock at this point.  She gives him the anesthesia, and she walks out of the room... a couple minutes later, he\u2019s asleep, in a pile of drool on the cold floor\u2026 I\u2019m confused and sobbing at this point. Everything feels wrong. At this point I wanted to pick him up and walk him right out.  She comes back in after 10-15 minutes, and attempts to give him the final shot\u2026. It doesn\u2019t work for some reason so she switches legs, it doesn\u2019t work, there\u2019s blood dripping all over him and her, she\u2019s not saying ANYTHING. Finally the next attempt was successful. My mom thought she saw him growl when the vet was poking him multiple times. His facial muscles were still twitching when we left him in the room. Our hearts are broken because we think he died scared, and in pain. It was so important for this to go smoothly for us and for him. He was so special to us. We feel awful for not taking him elsewhere. I\u2019ve read things like \u201cthe anesthesia makes it impossible to interpret pain\u201d  Can you guys please reassure me that he died in a painless sleep and that the experience was shitty for my Mom and me, but not necessarily our poor pup.","c_root_id_A":"ikw942y","c_root_id_B":"ikwlh5s","created_at_utc_A":1660885114,"created_at_utc_B":1660893792,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m only work experience at a vet so take what I say with a VERY large grain of salt, but to my understanding the twitches and such are reflexes and not indicators of pain. I think it\u2019s super weird that they didn\u2019t say a word to you and even weirder that they did it in the lobby on the floor, but the vet I work at might function differently idk.","human_ref_B":"He wouldn\u2019t have felt anything whilst he was \u2018asleep\u2019.  However, the vet being completely silent is shocking. Even though the practice is closing, I would still make a complaint to them. The vet should have been telling you what was going on through out this process to keep you informed and explaining it all to you so you can understand what\u2019s happening.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8678.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"wrlw57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Sloppy Euthanasia performed on our dog Our small town vet is closing in a month (likely due to staffing issues). Things have gone down hill over the last couple years, but we kept giving them business in hopes that things would get better. Our dog (Pug, 12 years old) was diagnosed with cancer (with the help of a larger veterinary hospital), it had spread to his lungs, and we decided we would put him down before his quality of life got worse.  We go in for our scheduled appointment, there\u2019s other dogs coming in and out of appointments, they\u2019re about 10 mins late to call us back. Meanwhile we\u2019re crying because we have already said our goodbyes, and he is anxiously sniffing everything in the lobby and giving himself strained breathing. We\u2019re finally called back, the vet comes to our dog on the floor, she pets him for a solid minute without saying a word- we\u2019re just in shock at this point.  She gives him the anesthesia, and she walks out of the room... a couple minutes later, he\u2019s asleep, in a pile of drool on the cold floor\u2026 I\u2019m confused and sobbing at this point. Everything feels wrong. At this point I wanted to pick him up and walk him right out.  She comes back in after 10-15 minutes, and attempts to give him the final shot\u2026. It doesn\u2019t work for some reason so she switches legs, it doesn\u2019t work, there\u2019s blood dripping all over him and her, she\u2019s not saying ANYTHING. Finally the next attempt was successful. My mom thought she saw him growl when the vet was poking him multiple times. His facial muscles were still twitching when we left him in the room. Our hearts are broken because we think he died scared, and in pain. It was so important for this to go smoothly for us and for him. He was so special to us. We feel awful for not taking him elsewhere. I\u2019ve read things like \u201cthe anesthesia makes it impossible to interpret pain\u201d  Can you guys please reassure me that he died in a painless sleep and that the experience was shitty for my Mom and me, but not necessarily our poor pup.","c_root_id_A":"ikw942y","c_root_id_B":"ikwpg1i","created_at_utc_A":1660885114,"created_at_utc_B":1660896958,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m only work experience at a vet so take what I say with a VERY large grain of salt, but to my understanding the twitches and such are reflexes and not indicators of pain. I think it\u2019s super weird that they didn\u2019t say a word to you and even weirder that they did it in the lobby on the floor, but the vet I work at might function differently idk.","human_ref_B":"Hi there,  I am so sorry to hear about this experience and the lack of communication from the veterinarian and clinic you went to. I am a technician at a large, high-volume specialty clinic and this would be considered unacceptable behavior.  In the future, you can try doing at home euthanasia with a veterinarian who specializes with end-of-life care, or take them somewhere else and request a catheter be placed so that things go more smoothly. I've never worked at a location where a present euthanasia has no IV catheter in place. Catheters allow you to hold your baby close to you and have things go smoothly.   Please know that the sedation they gave likely caused your baby to feel little to no pain when they got their final injection, but the emotional distress you faced and the lack of communication is not okay.   At the end of the day, you made an important decision for your boy because living was more painful than the eternal rest awaiting all of us. If they could understand, they would thank us. It didn't happen in the most ideal circumstances, but there are many fates worse than death and you gave him the gift of a relatively painless one versus suffering.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11844.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"wrlw57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Sloppy Euthanasia performed on our dog Our small town vet is closing in a month (likely due to staffing issues). Things have gone down hill over the last couple years, but we kept giving them business in hopes that things would get better. Our dog (Pug, 12 years old) was diagnosed with cancer (with the help of a larger veterinary hospital), it had spread to his lungs, and we decided we would put him down before his quality of life got worse.  We go in for our scheduled appointment, there\u2019s other dogs coming in and out of appointments, they\u2019re about 10 mins late to call us back. Meanwhile we\u2019re crying because we have already said our goodbyes, and he is anxiously sniffing everything in the lobby and giving himself strained breathing. We\u2019re finally called back, the vet comes to our dog on the floor, she pets him for a solid minute without saying a word- we\u2019re just in shock at this point.  She gives him the anesthesia, and she walks out of the room... a couple minutes later, he\u2019s asleep, in a pile of drool on the cold floor\u2026 I\u2019m confused and sobbing at this point. Everything feels wrong. At this point I wanted to pick him up and walk him right out.  She comes back in after 10-15 minutes, and attempts to give him the final shot\u2026. It doesn\u2019t work for some reason so she switches legs, it doesn\u2019t work, there\u2019s blood dripping all over him and her, she\u2019s not saying ANYTHING. Finally the next attempt was successful. My mom thought she saw him growl when the vet was poking him multiple times. His facial muscles were still twitching when we left him in the room. Our hearts are broken because we think he died scared, and in pain. It was so important for this to go smoothly for us and for him. He was so special to us. We feel awful for not taking him elsewhere. I\u2019ve read things like \u201cthe anesthesia makes it impossible to interpret pain\u201d  Can you guys please reassure me that he died in a painless sleep and that the experience was shitty for my Mom and me, but not necessarily our poor pup.","c_root_id_A":"ikw942y","c_root_id_B":"ikxrdza","created_at_utc_A":1660885114,"created_at_utc_B":1660918896,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m only work experience at a vet so take what I say with a VERY large grain of salt, but to my understanding the twitches and such are reflexes and not indicators of pain. I think it\u2019s super weird that they didn\u2019t say a word to you and even weirder that they did it in the lobby on the floor, but the vet I work at might function differently idk.","human_ref_B":"I don't know if this is against the rules, but I work at a university animal research lab. Unfortunately, and sometimes frighteningly, twitching\/sighing is simply your animal's nervous system working itself down. Nevertheless, that first round of sedation is incredibly strong and works extremely well (as well as fast).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33782.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"sf6aw3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog went in for unknown mass removal today and died during clean up- help me understand please, I'm so confused My bichon (10m) had a lump grow over the last month under his armpit, vets first thought possible abscess and treated for infection, then we had brought him back at the end of his steroid and antibiotic round as instructed, the vet was going to operate there and then but wanted to do xrays and ultrasound after he was put under anaesthetic for needle aspiration. The vet concluded it was pockets of fluid and organised tissue, and said surgery wasn't needed at that time as it wasn't life threatening (also final app of his day and he was away for a week and said he would be best to see if it reduces and come back in for next steps once he returned). That was today and he said he would remove the mass this morning. So we left him in their care for the operation.  He called me 3 hours later to say its bad news: my dog survived surgery and mass removal, was said to be getting cleaned up and coming round after aesthetic gas. Then he took a sudden turn, couldn't breathe then had cardiac arrest. Attempts to resuscitate failed.  I have him home and have to now bring myself to bury my best friend, I'm struggling to understand how this went wrong. What could have caused him to suddenly pass if he got through the op and higher dosages of aesthetic during the removal? Vet said the op was 40min and he can't explain it, saying it was a shock to him it happened and one of those things that can't be predicted.  Can anyone give me some insight please. I can't stop thinking about what has happened here. He walked in wagging his tail and now he's gone. I really don't want to live with so much unanswered questions but an autopsy would also be too distressing to imagine.  Can anyone give me help here? I brought him in for this treatment and can't bare it","c_root_id_A":"huoldys","c_root_id_B":"huom6tw","created_at_utc_A":1643431765,"created_at_utc_B":1643432192,"score_A":13,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry, sending you hugs.","human_ref_B":"If you go down the \"Why...\" Rabbit hole, you will have a hard time getting out. Even if you had the answers, you'd still question their absence and everything surrounding it. From all of the deaths I've experienced in the last year, I have found that no answer really satisfies the question. Try to be kind to yourself as that's what your pup would have wanted. I'm sorry you're going through this and hope you have someone to lean on during this time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":427.0,"score_ratio":3.1538461538}
{"post_id":"sf6aw3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog went in for unknown mass removal today and died during clean up- help me understand please, I'm so confused My bichon (10m) had a lump grow over the last month under his armpit, vets first thought possible abscess and treated for infection, then we had brought him back at the end of his steroid and antibiotic round as instructed, the vet was going to operate there and then but wanted to do xrays and ultrasound after he was put under anaesthetic for needle aspiration. The vet concluded it was pockets of fluid and organised tissue, and said surgery wasn't needed at that time as it wasn't life threatening (also final app of his day and he was away for a week and said he would be best to see if it reduces and come back in for next steps once he returned). That was today and he said he would remove the mass this morning. So we left him in their care for the operation.  He called me 3 hours later to say its bad news: my dog survived surgery and mass removal, was said to be getting cleaned up and coming round after aesthetic gas. Then he took a sudden turn, couldn't breathe then had cardiac arrest. Attempts to resuscitate failed.  I have him home and have to now bring myself to bury my best friend, I'm struggling to understand how this went wrong. What could have caused him to suddenly pass if he got through the op and higher dosages of aesthetic during the removal? Vet said the op was 40min and he can't explain it, saying it was a shock to him it happened and one of those things that can't be predicted.  Can anyone give me some insight please. I can't stop thinking about what has happened here. He walked in wagging his tail and now he's gone. I really don't want to live with so much unanswered questions but an autopsy would also be too distressing to imagine.  Can anyone give me help here? I brought him in for this treatment and can't bare it","c_root_id_A":"hupcfiq","c_root_id_B":"hupdlgl","created_at_utc_A":1643450540,"created_at_utc_B":1643451461,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I have no answers but wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss. How sad for you. Sending a virtual hug. Loss is so difficult.","human_ref_B":"So sorry for your loss.   My friend had a similar experience with her cat after a spay operation - she got through the surgery and all was well but suddenly fell very Ill in recovery and didn\u2019t make it. The vet said it\u2019s rare but does happen, there is often no rhyme or reason to it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":921.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"sf6aw3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog went in for unknown mass removal today and died during clean up- help me understand please, I'm so confused My bichon (10m) had a lump grow over the last month under his armpit, vets first thought possible abscess and treated for infection, then we had brought him back at the end of his steroid and antibiotic round as instructed, the vet was going to operate there and then but wanted to do xrays and ultrasound after he was put under anaesthetic for needle aspiration. The vet concluded it was pockets of fluid and organised tissue, and said surgery wasn't needed at that time as it wasn't life threatening (also final app of his day and he was away for a week and said he would be best to see if it reduces and come back in for next steps once he returned). That was today and he said he would remove the mass this morning. So we left him in their care for the operation.  He called me 3 hours later to say its bad news: my dog survived surgery and mass removal, was said to be getting cleaned up and coming round after aesthetic gas. Then he took a sudden turn, couldn't breathe then had cardiac arrest. Attempts to resuscitate failed.  I have him home and have to now bring myself to bury my best friend, I'm struggling to understand how this went wrong. What could have caused him to suddenly pass if he got through the op and higher dosages of aesthetic during the removal? Vet said the op was 40min and he can't explain it, saying it was a shock to him it happened and one of those things that can't be predicted.  Can anyone give me some insight please. I can't stop thinking about what has happened here. He walked in wagging his tail and now he's gone. I really don't want to live with so much unanswered questions but an autopsy would also be too distressing to imagine.  Can anyone give me help here? I brought him in for this treatment and can't bare it","c_root_id_A":"huprvgj","c_root_id_B":"hupcfiq","created_at_utc_A":1643461873,"created_at_utc_B":1643450540,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry. This happened to my 10 year old dog after a splenectomy about 2 years ago. I don\u2019t have advice but i know what you\u2019re going through. I\u2019m still sad and confused.","human_ref_B":"I have no answers but wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss. How sad for you. Sending a virtual hug. Loss is so difficult.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11333.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2gvlox","c_root_id_B":"h2gpmty","created_at_utc_A":1624223375,"created_at_utc_B":1624220305,"score_A":129,"score_B":111,"human_ref_A":"You pick up that damn dog and take him straight to a vet or rescue center.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet, but maybe a picture of the dog could help a vet understand what you mean better. They might be able to discern more things about the dog that you might not have the training to spot as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3070.0,"score_ratio":1.1621621622}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2gyjwb","c_root_id_B":"h2hftrh","created_at_utc_A":1624224860,"created_at_utc_B":1624234415,"score_A":65,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Also not a vet but I\u2019d think the risk of further injuring the dog to pick it up and transport it to a vet clinic\/emergency vet center might be worth it to possibly save its life. It won\u2019t survive very long if it\u2019s essentially paralyzed.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but as a first responder for humans - please don't move his neck anymore. If he has a spinal\/injury you don't want to aggravate it further, and that is probably the position of most comfort for him. I would get him to an emergency vet right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9555.0,"score_ratio":1.6461538462}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2hftrh","c_root_id_B":"h2h0nmy","created_at_utc_A":1624234415,"created_at_utc_B":1624225943,"score_A":107,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but as a first responder for humans - please don't move his neck anymore. If he has a spinal\/injury you don't want to aggravate it further, and that is probably the position of most comfort for him. I would get him to an emergency vet right away.","human_ref_B":"I feel compelled to remind people to utilize animal control in three situations.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8472.0,"score_ratio":1.6984126984}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2hbgld","c_root_id_B":"h2hftrh","created_at_utc_A":1624231877,"created_at_utc_B":1624234415,"score_A":61,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"The only issues I can think of that could cause the dog\u2019s neck to do that are very serious and require emergency veterinary care. Please take him to an emergency hospital ASAP.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but as a first responder for humans - please don't move his neck anymore. If he has a spinal\/injury you don't want to aggravate it further, and that is probably the position of most comfort for him. I would get him to an emergency vet right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2538.0,"score_ratio":1.7540983607}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2h18oo","c_root_id_B":"h2hftrh","created_at_utc_A":1624226242,"created_at_utc_B":1624234415,"score_A":37,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Call your local shelter\/rescue.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but as a first responder for humans - please don't move his neck anymore. If he has a spinal\/injury you don't want to aggravate it further, and that is probably the position of most comfort for him. I would get him to an emergency vet right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8173.0,"score_ratio":2.8918918919}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2h028a","c_root_id_B":"h2hftrh","created_at_utc_A":1624225646,"created_at_utc_B":1624234415,"score_A":33,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"There is no way to diagnose over the internet. All you can do is bring him to a vet asap and get a booster for your Tetanus\/Rabies just in case.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but as a first responder for humans - please don't move his neck anymore. If he has a spinal\/injury you don't want to aggravate it further, and that is probably the position of most comfort for him. I would get him to an emergency vet right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8769.0,"score_ratio":3.2424242424}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2h0nmy","c_root_id_B":"h2h028a","created_at_utc_A":1624225943,"created_at_utc_B":1624225646,"score_A":63,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I feel compelled to remind people to utilize animal control in three situations.","human_ref_B":"There is no way to diagnose over the internet. All you can do is bring him to a vet asap and get a booster for your Tetanus\/Rabies just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":297.0,"score_ratio":1.9090909091}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2hbgld","c_root_id_B":"h2h18oo","created_at_utc_A":1624231877,"created_at_utc_B":1624226242,"score_A":61,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"The only issues I can think of that could cause the dog\u2019s neck to do that are very serious and require emergency veterinary care. Please take him to an emergency hospital ASAP.","human_ref_B":"Call your local shelter\/rescue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5635.0,"score_ratio":1.6486486486}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2hbgld","c_root_id_B":"h2h028a","created_at_utc_A":1624231877,"created_at_utc_B":1624225646,"score_A":61,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"The only issues I can think of that could cause the dog\u2019s neck to do that are very serious and require emergency veterinary care. Please take him to an emergency hospital ASAP.","human_ref_B":"There is no way to diagnose over the internet. All you can do is bring him to a vet asap and get a booster for your Tetanus\/Rabies just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6231.0,"score_ratio":1.8484848485}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2h18oo","c_root_id_B":"h2h028a","created_at_utc_A":1624226242,"created_at_utc_B":1624225646,"score_A":37,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Call your local shelter\/rescue.","human_ref_B":"There is no way to diagnose over the internet. All you can do is bring him to a vet asap and get a booster for your Tetanus\/Rabies just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":596.0,"score_ratio":1.1212121212}
{"post_id":"o4cows","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"[HELP] I found a stray dog with neck twisted backwards and unable to move his body! I found this dog today at in my community under a tree. Following are features:  1- Dog had his neck twisted backwards whille lying down. I straightened it but it goes back into that position with him whining and yelping.  2- He ate alot of food showing that he was starving for days.  3- He has no frothing at mouth, tried to drink water from spoon as much as it could.  4- The dog is unable to move. He can barely bend his hind legs and move his neck a little but no movement in the front legs.  5- After eating food, he yelps a little and then his neck twists backwards again  I wanted to know what can I do to help him right now, the vet in our area couldnt come here and the dog is unable to move so any help is appreciated till the vet can be seen. Secondly, could this be a form of rabies? Thank you, any help will be highly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h2hv0og","c_root_id_B":"h2hipnt","created_at_utc_A":1624242889,"created_at_utc_B":1624236061,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I'm a vet asst. This sounds incredibly serious. Please do not move the animals neck any more than you already have, and please rush them to an emergency vet hospital as soon as physically possible.","human_ref_B":"If you can afford it, please go to the nearest animal emergency hospital.  If you can\u2019t please call your human society\/spca or animal rescue ASAP!  This poor dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6828.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gob6nsd","c_root_id_B":"goasjlb","created_at_utc_A":1613971304,"created_at_utc_B":1613962893,"score_A":60,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Does your dog usually get stressed at the vet? Im a vet assistant and have had dogs stress poop from listening to their heart lol","human_ref_B":">I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.   You find one you like better and move on.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8411.0,"score_ratio":1.3953488372}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"goat5bn","c_root_id_B":"gob6nsd","created_at_utc_A":1613963226,"created_at_utc_B":1613971304,"score_A":35,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"At this point I'd have all records from both clinics you're mad with sent to a third clinic of your choice (fingers crossed one that you trust and practice good medicine) and take your dog there to get a third opinion. This can give you good perspective of weather or not there was malpractice. It also documents everything for a case if you end up needing it. If there was malpractice, you can ask the vets there what's the next course of action to take.","human_ref_B":"Does your dog usually get stressed at the vet? Im a vet assistant and have had dogs stress poop from listening to their heart lol","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8078.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gob6nsd","c_root_id_B":"goaxyh6","created_at_utc_A":1613971304,"created_at_utc_B":1613965918,"score_A":60,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Does your dog usually get stressed at the vet? Im a vet assistant and have had dogs stress poop from listening to their heart lol","human_ref_B":"Pets are generally viewed as property by the law and there may have been medical reasons for this. Generally there is little to no recourse for this type of event if no further damage is done as a result, and claims for malpractice are limited to costs required to correct the malpractice. Emotional or momentary physical distress unfortunately is not sufficient for damages, and may not be enough for veterinary board review.   It is unfortunate, but this is the reality under current legislation. If there is a concern about malpractice, it can be submitted to the state veterinary board for further investigation.  You should contact both vets and make inquiries to them if you have concerns about their practices. That is your starting point before doing anything else.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5386.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"goaxyh6","c_root_id_B":"gobngj2","created_at_utc_A":1613965918,"created_at_utc_B":1613985024,"score_A":25,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Pets are generally viewed as property by the law and there may have been medical reasons for this. Generally there is little to no recourse for this type of event if no further damage is done as a result, and claims for malpractice are limited to costs required to correct the malpractice. Emotional or momentary physical distress unfortunately is not sufficient for damages, and may not be enough for veterinary board review.   It is unfortunate, but this is the reality under current legislation. If there is a concern about malpractice, it can be submitted to the state veterinary board for further investigation.  You should contact both vets and make inquiries to them if you have concerns about their practices. That is your starting point before doing anything else.","human_ref_B":"Just to clarify, you think both vets abused your dog?  I think you should ask for some more information so you can likely put your mind at ease. I am certain there is more information that explains this situation, whether or not you are aware.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19106.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gobngj2","c_root_id_B":"gobljeo","created_at_utc_A":1613985024,"created_at_utc_B":1613983241,"score_A":30,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Just to clarify, you think both vets abused your dog?  I think you should ask for some more information so you can likely put your mind at ease. I am certain there is more information that explains this situation, whether or not you are aware.","human_ref_B":"When you say plaster bandage, do you mean an adhesive, sticky bandage?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1783.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gobngj2","c_root_id_B":"gob8mtb","created_at_utc_A":1613985024,"created_at_utc_B":1613972670,"score_A":30,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Just to clarify, you think both vets abused your dog?  I think you should ask for some more information so you can likely put your mind at ease. I am certain there is more information that explains this situation, whether or not you are aware.","human_ref_B":"Did you call the university hospital to ask about the bandage? Did you read the discharge instructions?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12354.0,"score_ratio":2.3076923077}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gobljeo","c_root_id_B":"gocej2d","created_at_utc_A":1613983241,"created_at_utc_B":1614005180,"score_A":20,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"When you say plaster bandage, do you mean an adhesive, sticky bandage?","human_ref_B":"INFO: Your terminology is confusing.  What do you mean by \"plaster bandage\"?  Are you saying your dog was put into a plaster cast, and the vet did not put the cotton wrap or tubular bandage on your dog prior to putting down the casting material, which resulted in your unshaven dog's fur drying into the cast only to be ripped off by force? Or;  Are you saying your dog had what amounts to a bandaid ripped off?  They're two very different situations, and it seems like most ppl in the comment section are also confused.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21939.0,"score_ratio":1.15}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gocej2d","c_root_id_B":"gob8mtb","created_at_utc_A":1614005180,"created_at_utc_B":1613972670,"score_A":23,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"INFO: Your terminology is confusing.  What do you mean by \"plaster bandage\"?  Are you saying your dog was put into a plaster cast, and the vet did not put the cotton wrap or tubular bandage on your dog prior to putting down the casting material, which resulted in your unshaven dog's fur drying into the cast only to be ripped off by force? Or;  Are you saying your dog had what amounts to a bandaid ripped off?  They're two very different situations, and it seems like most ppl in the comment section are also confused.","human_ref_B":"Did you call the university hospital to ask about the bandage? Did you read the discharge instructions?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":32510.0,"score_ratio":1.7692307692}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gocej2d","c_root_id_B":"goc6m2x","created_at_utc_A":1614005180,"created_at_utc_B":1614000720,"score_A":23,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"INFO: Your terminology is confusing.  What do you mean by \"plaster bandage\"?  Are you saying your dog was put into a plaster cast, and the vet did not put the cotton wrap or tubular bandage on your dog prior to putting down the casting material, which resulted in your unshaven dog's fur drying into the cast only to be ripped off by force? Or;  Are you saying your dog had what amounts to a bandaid ripped off?  They're two very different situations, and it seems like most ppl in the comment section are also confused.","human_ref_B":"Justice because the veterinarian didn\u2019t sedate your dog to remove a bandage ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4460.0,"score_ratio":1.9166666667}
{"post_id":"lp8jk7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"How to deal with a \u201cbad\u201d veterinarian? I\u2019m angry with not one, but two vets for what I believe amounts to animal cruelty. I\u2019m not sure what my course of action is though. My dog, Sheriff, underwent surgery at the local university clinic and was put into a sling. When I went to my regular clinic for a bandage change we discovered there was no cotton padding underneath. The plaster bandage was stuck right on his fur. The vet then had to remove it by force, and she didn\u2019t sedate Sheriff. He screamed like I\u2019ve never heard and actually had a stress poop. I\u2019m mad at both clinics but I don\u2019t know what I can do to get justice for my beautiful dog.","c_root_id_A":"gob8mtb","c_root_id_B":"gobljeo","created_at_utc_A":1613972670,"created_at_utc_B":1613983241,"score_A":13,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Did you call the university hospital to ask about the bandage? Did you read the discharge instructions?","human_ref_B":"When you say plaster bandage, do you mean an adhesive, sticky bandage?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10571.0,"score_ratio":1.5384615385}
{"post_id":"ju8hlp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What really happened during euthanasia? We euthanized our cat, Mocha, on Monday, Nov 9 and I can't stop wondering if it went wrong. Please skip to the euthanasia\/questions at the bottom if you don't want to read my wall of text as it's probably irrelevant anyways.  Just for backstory: Our 18 year old cat had CKD, high blood pressure, and diabetes. He was on fluids and medications, special food, and while his appetite increased at times and he gained a little weight back, nothing seemed to help with the numbers. We increased everything and we're supposed to recheck them, but he didn't make it back to his appointment. On Tuesday morning, Nov 3, he had his last meal. For the first few days after he still seemed like himself and we were hopeful he would eat again. But he didn't and he got weaker. My parents did not want to euthanize and insisted he went naturally. They wanted a natural and peaceful death, who doesn't? On Saturday I sat my parents down and had a talk with them. I had done a lot of research and I hope I was accurate in telling them there is a chance that he will die peacefully in his sleep, but there is also a chance his death will be drawn out even more, there's a chance he could have seizures or a heart attack or drown from fluids in his lungs if he stopped processing the fluids we were giving him. He was dying and we shouldn't prolong his death. They asked questions and I answered the best I could. They agreed to euthanize if we could do it in-home. By then our cat was only able to lie there with his eyes open and wobbled once in a while to a different spot or to use the litter box we placed next to him. I made the call on Sunday to euthanize, but the few in-home vets available were fully booked. I made an appointment for the next day, Monday, Nov 9 and we gave him fluids one last time that Sunday night.  Euthanization: The vet came and told us she would use a sedative before injecting him in the tummy. I should have trusted her or asked for clarification. I had only read about injecting into a vein or the heart and I knew the heart injection would be painful. In my mind I translated tummy to heart because I hadn't read about abdomen or kidney injections. I asked her why she wasn't going to do it in the vein. She said because he was an older cat it would be hard, but that she would try. She gave him the sedative and in a couple minutes, poured some water on his back leg and tried once to find a vein and failed. Then she said she would just do it in the tummy because he had already stopped breathing and I agreed. Our cat didn't flinch through any of this and his heart stopped a few minutes later. While his death looked peaceful, I had questions, but I was afraid of my parents hearing anything unpleasant and refrained. Now I can't find any answers online.  Questions: Is it uncomfortable to have respiratory arrest from sedation? Could our cat feel that he was suffocating but couldn't move from being sedated to show he was stressed? Did she use the anesthetic so quickly after sedation because she knew he was in pain? Is it possible he was conscious through it all? How sedated could he have been in just a couple minutes?  Thanks in advance for reading, it's been a rough time and I just hope I can get some closure.","c_root_id_A":"gceli52","c_root_id_B":"gcbzzit","created_at_utc_A":1605460529,"created_at_utc_B":1605411497,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hi there,   I am so sorry for your loss. I have done in home euthanasia appointments for several years, so hopefully I can answer some of your questions.  1. There are some types of sedatives that cause sedation without reducing anxiety (acepromazine comes to mind.) We do not use those for euthanasia. I can't speak to this vet's specific protocol, but most of use some similar variation of a fast acting anesthetic. Much stronger than your typical sedative, these are the types of injections that can cause surgical levels of anesthesia all by themselves, in just a couple minutes. 2. Usually, this injection puts the pet into deep sedation or they are fully anesthetized. Then, you administer the euthanasia agent IV or, sounds like in your case, into the abdomen. They both work the same way, just IV is faster- but when you can't find a vein, this way works too. 3. This is critical to know: the euthanasia agent is an overdose of an anesthetic agent. This means the order of events goes like this: loss of consciousness, stop respiration, stop the heart. Even if the sedative weren't on board before, you could euthanize a pet without it and they would gently lose consciousness before anything else happened. They are not aware of their breath stopping. Sometimes you hear terrible stories from the human side about botched executions where the prisoner seemed to feel things and this is because the company that makes the drugs we use won't sell it to prisons, only to vets. It is a really good drug for this purpose.  Our anesthesia drugs are designed to always cause loss of consciousness before anything else. It is not painful. There is no better way to leave this earth IMO than in the company of those you love best,  and that is what you gave.  If a pet is very ill, sometimes the sedative is enough to stop breathing. I always think of this as, they are holding on hard but the sedative gives their body permission to do what it was ready to do. This doesn't happen without lack of consciousness. Your sweetie did not suffer and in fact, the sedative allowed him to stop having to fight.  You did the right thing and it sounds like he had a gentle transition.  I hope this helps you find some measure of comfort. Your kitty passed peacefully.","human_ref_B":"Vets who do at home visits usually do not have help so it is very hard to find a good vein by yourself.   At my previous hospital we did euthanasia\u2019s only through I.V. catheters. Which was good in some cases, but in cases where the patient is so  deteriorated it is next to impossible to find a good vein and get a stick.   I\u2019m very sorry for your loss, but it sounds like the vet did the best she could for your cat in the situation. I\u2019ve cared for a cat through renal failure as well, it is tough work. God bless you and your family for doing right by him. Please take care, my heart goes out to you all.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":49032.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilhoagk","c_root_id_B":"ili09af","created_at_utc_A":1661280178,"created_at_utc_B":1661284727,"score_A":90,"score_B":214,"human_ref_A":"will she take the dry mixed with some wet can?   wet food is great because it provides moisture that cats are notoriously bad at getting for themselves","human_ref_B":"If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4549.0,"score_ratio":2.3777777778}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ili09af","c_root_id_B":"ilhtch5","created_at_utc_A":1661284727,"created_at_utc_B":1661282113,"score_A":214,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be","human_ref_B":"Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2614.0,"score_ratio":4.1960784314}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilhykqw","c_root_id_B":"ili09af","created_at_utc_A":1661284095,"created_at_utc_B":1661284727,"score_A":35,"score_B":214,"human_ref_A":"I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.","human_ref_B":"If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be","labels":0,"seconds_difference":632.0,"score_ratio":6.1142857143}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ili9b8y","c_root_id_B":"ilhtch5","created_at_utc_A":1661288178,"created_at_utc_B":1661282113,"score_A":55,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.","human_ref_B":"Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6065.0,"score_ratio":1.0784313725}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilhykqw","c_root_id_B":"ili9b8y","created_at_utc_A":1661284095,"created_at_utc_B":1661288178,"score_A":35,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.","human_ref_B":"Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4083.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilidi77","c_root_id_B":"ilhykqw","created_at_utc_A":1661289808,"created_at_utc_B":1661284095,"score_A":43,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Did your vet attempt to switch her to a specific food due to a health condition? If so have you spoken with the vet and offered all of the flavor options and brands available?","human_ref_B":"I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5713.0,"score_ratio":1.2285714286}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilj12x1","c_root_id_B":"ilisase","created_at_utc_A":1661299662,"created_at_utc_B":1661295835,"score_A":30,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Whiskas is made by the same company that makes Iams & Royal Canin which are known to be good foods, do large feeding trials, vet nutritionists employed, etc. Whiskas is probably on the lower end, but it\u2019s still an ok food. Some people have issues with big companies or what not, but you aren\u2019t feeding something that is bad for cats. Not all animals need a premium food to thrive.","human_ref_B":"She's fifteen! Let her eat what she likes.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3827.0,"score_ratio":1.3636363636}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"iljr9dv","c_root_id_B":"illjg39","created_at_utc_A":1661311378,"created_at_utc_B":1661351167,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Without an advertisement from a competing brand, how do you know Whiskas isn't good?","human_ref_B":"Fed is best","labels":0,"seconds_difference":39789.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilksmk5","c_root_id_B":"illjg39","created_at_utc_A":1661337828,"created_at_utc_B":1661351167,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.","human_ref_B":"Fed is best","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13339.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"illjg39","c_root_id_B":"ilkqd1l","created_at_utc_A":1661351167,"created_at_utc_B":1661336207,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Fed is best","human_ref_B":"What are the comments being removed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14960.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"wvv2c6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.","c_root_id_A":"ilksmk5","c_root_id_B":"ilkqd1l","created_at_utc_A":1661337828,"created_at_utc_B":1661336207,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.","human_ref_B":"What are the comments being removed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1621.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"pq9zuu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Why have all my dogs had traumatic euthanasia experiences? I have to put my dog down today and I\u2019m filled with dread. Every one of my dogs has had a horrible death, with two different vets. Screaming, struggling, getting up and trying to get away, trying to catch their breath and looking at me with terror. Why does this keep happening and is there any way to prevent it? All of them were sedated first and with two that\u2019s when the screaming started. I\u2019ve never experienced a peaceful dog death and I can\u2019t bear to do it again today.","c_root_id_A":"hdalah8","c_root_id_B":"hda5tyq","created_at_utc_A":1631938126,"created_at_utc_B":1631929789,"score_A":206,"score_B":100,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry you are facing the decision of euthanizing your animal, and I am equally sorry you have had such terrible experiences with euthanasia in the past.  When a vet or euthanasia tech prepares to euthanize a pet, they first anesthetize the animal so they are not awake when given euthanasia drugs. When an animal is anesthetized, they enter a state where they cannot form new memories or interpret pain. If you've had surgery where they put you to sleep, you probably experienced this state; you may remember how it felt to \"wake up\" like you'd travelled forward in time, but you likely had no memory of your surgery.   You don't remember what happened after the doctor counted down, but you probably seemed (somewhat) conscious to onlookers even after you stopped making memories. That quality is just about the first thing to go in anesthesia, but the brain is still \"awake\" enough to respond to stimuli. At this point you, or your pet, have entered the first of four anesthetic stages.  The second stage of anesthesia is likely to blame for your animals' startling behaviors. This is the excitatory stage; many people\/animals make loud vocalizations and may thrash as the brain loses control of inhibitors that help it behave normally day-to-day. Memories and thoughts are still not stored during this process, so your f pets were likely unaware they were doing those things. It is very scary to witness, but it is also a common part of the anesthetic process for many individuals.   Stage three is when an animal becomes truly and deeply anesthetized; we want to perform surgery on or euthanize animals in stage three of anesthesia because brain activity beyond the basics of life support (breathing, heartbeat, etc) is not really present. The transition from life at this point is peaceful; a drug needs only to interfere with a basic life function to help an animal pass.   I'm so sorry if these words have been upsetting, but you really can help your pets pass with dignity. The procedure can be unpredictable, but I have never personally experienced the excitement phase during euthanasia (despite witnessing it many times in surgery). This is because the anesthetic process for euthanasia is not the same as for surgery; we understand an animal should not wake up after euthanasia, so we can use different kinds of anesthetic drugs, or bigger dosages given more quickly, to hopefully skip the second stage.  To prevent your past experiences from happening again, I would choose a different vet; you mentioned seeing two for multiple animals, but it's possible both employ the same anesthetic protocols. I recommend a mobile veterinary clinic or mobile euthanasia clinic if your community has one; your vets are likely great, but euthanasia clients are some of the most common cases seen by mobile clinics. It's only natural that, when you do something over and over, you become more familiar with it. Something else you can do is confirm with your vet that they are fully sedating an animal prior to euthanasia; not doing so is very rare in healthy animals, as it is not humane, but it has been known to happen in some lesser-developed areas due to the price of anesthetics.  We could talk about the most efficient methods to request, but this message is long enough. You must be grieving for your friend, but I hope some of this information helps you bury any guilt you may be carrying from your previous experiences. Despite what it seemed, I'm sure your animals were not aware of their actions when they passed. I hope instead that their last memory was slipping gently away, like counting backwards from 10, in the presence of the person they loved most.","human_ref_B":"This is certainly not normal and I\u2019m sorry you had to go through that. In most cases, the dogs lay their head down and sleep\u2026rarely vocalize and occasionally take 1-2 reflex breaths.  I would look at in-home euthanasia\u2019s in the future\u2026these people just get it right. An amazing service.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8337.0,"score_ratio":2.06}
{"post_id":"pq9zuu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Why have all my dogs had traumatic euthanasia experiences? I have to put my dog down today and I\u2019m filled with dread. Every one of my dogs has had a horrible death, with two different vets. Screaming, struggling, getting up and trying to get away, trying to catch their breath and looking at me with terror. Why does this keep happening and is there any way to prevent it? All of them were sedated first and with two that\u2019s when the screaming started. I\u2019ve never experienced a peaceful dog death and I can\u2019t bear to do it again today.","c_root_id_A":"hd9v0ys","c_root_id_B":"hdalah8","created_at_utc_A":1631924321,"created_at_utc_B":1631938126,"score_A":17,"score_B":206,"human_ref_A":"i\u2019m so sorry you\u2019re losing a pet.    do you have time to look for a vet who can come to your house for the euthanasia?","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry you are facing the decision of euthanizing your animal, and I am equally sorry you have had such terrible experiences with euthanasia in the past.  When a vet or euthanasia tech prepares to euthanize a pet, they first anesthetize the animal so they are not awake when given euthanasia drugs. When an animal is anesthetized, they enter a state where they cannot form new memories or interpret pain. If you've had surgery where they put you to sleep, you probably experienced this state; you may remember how it felt to \"wake up\" like you'd travelled forward in time, but you likely had no memory of your surgery.   You don't remember what happened after the doctor counted down, but you probably seemed (somewhat) conscious to onlookers even after you stopped making memories. That quality is just about the first thing to go in anesthesia, but the brain is still \"awake\" enough to respond to stimuli. At this point you, or your pet, have entered the first of four anesthetic stages.  The second stage of anesthesia is likely to blame for your animals' startling behaviors. This is the excitatory stage; many people\/animals make loud vocalizations and may thrash as the brain loses control of inhibitors that help it behave normally day-to-day. Memories and thoughts are still not stored during this process, so your f pets were likely unaware they were doing those things. It is very scary to witness, but it is also a common part of the anesthetic process for many individuals.   Stage three is when an animal becomes truly and deeply anesthetized; we want to perform surgery on or euthanize animals in stage three of anesthesia because brain activity beyond the basics of life support (breathing, heartbeat, etc) is not really present. The transition from life at this point is peaceful; a drug needs only to interfere with a basic life function to help an animal pass.   I'm so sorry if these words have been upsetting, but you really can help your pets pass with dignity. The procedure can be unpredictable, but I have never personally experienced the excitement phase during euthanasia (despite witnessing it many times in surgery). This is because the anesthetic process for euthanasia is not the same as for surgery; we understand an animal should not wake up after euthanasia, so we can use different kinds of anesthetic drugs, or bigger dosages given more quickly, to hopefully skip the second stage.  To prevent your past experiences from happening again, I would choose a different vet; you mentioned seeing two for multiple animals, but it's possible both employ the same anesthetic protocols. I recommend a mobile veterinary clinic or mobile euthanasia clinic if your community has one; your vets are likely great, but euthanasia clients are some of the most common cases seen by mobile clinics. It's only natural that, when you do something over and over, you become more familiar with it. Something else you can do is confirm with your vet that they are fully sedating an animal prior to euthanasia; not doing so is very rare in healthy animals, as it is not humane, but it has been known to happen in some lesser-developed areas due to the price of anesthetics.  We could talk about the most efficient methods to request, but this message is long enough. You must be grieving for your friend, but I hope some of this information helps you bury any guilt you may be carrying from your previous experiences. Despite what it seemed, I'm sure your animals were not aware of their actions when they passed. I hope instead that their last memory was slipping gently away, like counting backwards from 10, in the presence of the person they loved most.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13805.0,"score_ratio":12.1176470588}
{"post_id":"pq9zuu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Why have all my dogs had traumatic euthanasia experiences? I have to put my dog down today and I\u2019m filled with dread. Every one of my dogs has had a horrible death, with two different vets. Screaming, struggling, getting up and trying to get away, trying to catch their breath and looking at me with terror. Why does this keep happening and is there any way to prevent it? All of them were sedated first and with two that\u2019s when the screaming started. I\u2019ve never experienced a peaceful dog death and I can\u2019t bear to do it again today.","c_root_id_A":"hdalah8","c_root_id_B":"hdagnz1","created_at_utc_A":1631938126,"created_at_utc_B":1631935439,"score_A":206,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry you are facing the decision of euthanizing your animal, and I am equally sorry you have had such terrible experiences with euthanasia in the past.  When a vet or euthanasia tech prepares to euthanize a pet, they first anesthetize the animal so they are not awake when given euthanasia drugs. When an animal is anesthetized, they enter a state where they cannot form new memories or interpret pain. If you've had surgery where they put you to sleep, you probably experienced this state; you may remember how it felt to \"wake up\" like you'd travelled forward in time, but you likely had no memory of your surgery.   You don't remember what happened after the doctor counted down, but you probably seemed (somewhat) conscious to onlookers even after you stopped making memories. That quality is just about the first thing to go in anesthesia, but the brain is still \"awake\" enough to respond to stimuli. At this point you, or your pet, have entered the first of four anesthetic stages.  The second stage of anesthesia is likely to blame for your animals' startling behaviors. This is the excitatory stage; many people\/animals make loud vocalizations and may thrash as the brain loses control of inhibitors that help it behave normally day-to-day. Memories and thoughts are still not stored during this process, so your f pets were likely unaware they were doing those things. It is very scary to witness, but it is also a common part of the anesthetic process for many individuals.   Stage three is when an animal becomes truly and deeply anesthetized; we want to perform surgery on or euthanize animals in stage three of anesthesia because brain activity beyond the basics of life support (breathing, heartbeat, etc) is not really present. The transition from life at this point is peaceful; a drug needs only to interfere with a basic life function to help an animal pass.   I'm so sorry if these words have been upsetting, but you really can help your pets pass with dignity. The procedure can be unpredictable, but I have never personally experienced the excitement phase during euthanasia (despite witnessing it many times in surgery). This is because the anesthetic process for euthanasia is not the same as for surgery; we understand an animal should not wake up after euthanasia, so we can use different kinds of anesthetic drugs, or bigger dosages given more quickly, to hopefully skip the second stage.  To prevent your past experiences from happening again, I would choose a different vet; you mentioned seeing two for multiple animals, but it's possible both employ the same anesthetic protocols. I recommend a mobile veterinary clinic or mobile euthanasia clinic if your community has one; your vets are likely great, but euthanasia clients are some of the most common cases seen by mobile clinics. It's only natural that, when you do something over and over, you become more familiar with it. Something else you can do is confirm with your vet that they are fully sedating an animal prior to euthanasia; not doing so is very rare in healthy animals, as it is not humane, but it has been known to happen in some lesser-developed areas due to the price of anesthetics.  We could talk about the most efficient methods to request, but this message is long enough. You must be grieving for your friend, but I hope some of this information helps you bury any guilt you may be carrying from your previous experiences. Despite what it seemed, I'm sure your animals were not aware of their actions when they passed. I hope instead that their last memory was slipping gently away, like counting backwards from 10, in the presence of the person they loved most.","human_ref_B":"A very ill animal can be difficult to find veins on. Especially if they\u2019re dehydrated. This makes the vet\u2019s job harder than usual.   The sedative ketamine causes hallucinations and dissociation. After it takes effect, the animal is not experiencing reality like we are. When your dogs were yelping it 100% looks to us like they\u2019re experiencing a trauma, but they\u2019re not.   I hope this is of come comfort to you.   You may not have the luxury of time to look into this, but mobile vets exist, and I think they\u2019re more common now than in the last couple decades.  With Covid, they will sometimes even perform final services outdoors.   I\u2019m sorry that you\u2019re losing your buddy. My condolences, and I hope you both have a peaceful day tomorrow.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2687.0,"score_ratio":22.8888888889}
{"post_id":"pq9zuu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Why have all my dogs had traumatic euthanasia experiences? I have to put my dog down today and I\u2019m filled with dread. Every one of my dogs has had a horrible death, with two different vets. Screaming, struggling, getting up and trying to get away, trying to catch their breath and looking at me with terror. Why does this keep happening and is there any way to prevent it? All of them were sedated first and with two that\u2019s when the screaming started. I\u2019ve never experienced a peaceful dog death and I can\u2019t bear to do it again today.","c_root_id_A":"hd9v0ys","c_root_id_B":"hda5tyq","created_at_utc_A":1631924321,"created_at_utc_B":1631929789,"score_A":17,"score_B":100,"human_ref_A":"i\u2019m so sorry you\u2019re losing a pet.    do you have time to look for a vet who can come to your house for the euthanasia?","human_ref_B":"This is certainly not normal and I\u2019m sorry you had to go through that. In most cases, the dogs lay their head down and sleep\u2026rarely vocalize and occasionally take 1-2 reflex breaths.  I would look at in-home euthanasia\u2019s in the future\u2026these people just get it right. An amazing service.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5468.0,"score_ratio":5.8823529412}
{"post_id":"vtx4j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are animal parents like cat and dog moms sad when we take away their babies as pets for ourselves? Basically the title. Do they miss their babies? Are they sad cause we took them away? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"ifa7p6y","c_root_id_B":"ifa3hv3","created_at_utc_A":1657241876,"created_at_utc_B":1657240002,"score_A":180,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Animals usually have a very specific reason for breeding. To procreate and make more.. and then go find another mate. Most mothers will wean their pups\/kittens and then want nothing more to do with them.  If an owner keeps a pup\/kitten with the parents and the pups\/kittens are raised with the parents, they will often become attached again, just due to sheer proximity and social behavior. But for the most part, parents do not give one blink when their weanling aged babies are rehomed.","human_ref_B":"Generally? No.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1874.0,"score_ratio":5.2941176471}
{"post_id":"vtx4j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are animal parents like cat and dog moms sad when we take away their babies as pets for ourselves? Basically the title. Do they miss their babies? Are they sad cause we took them away? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"ifacgpn","c_root_id_B":"ifa3hv3","created_at_utc_A":1657244004,"created_at_utc_B":1657240002,"score_A":45,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"I am a rescuer that specializes in whelping (birth) and maternity fostering. I have had more than 30 rescue litters which included a momma (plus a bunch that did not have a momma). The momma's have not reacted negatively to their puppies going away.","human_ref_B":"Generally? No.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4002.0,"score_ratio":1.3235294118}
{"post_id":"vtx4j9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are animal parents like cat and dog moms sad when we take away their babies as pets for ourselves? Basically the title. Do they miss their babies? Are they sad cause we took them away? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"ifc1tnz","c_root_id_B":"ifbfrbp","created_at_utc_A":1657282354,"created_at_utc_B":1657266032,"score_A":25,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"If separated too early they will pine and experience heartbreak but once older they push them away literally with agressive behaviour.","human_ref_B":"If you take them away too early, they can feel distress, disorientation and depression like behavior.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16322.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"cu1drd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to Console a Mourning Pup? I had a pair of 12 year old Basset Hounds, one male and one female. On Tuesday we had to put down our Male because of a tumor. The two were best friends and really relied on each other for emotional support. Since his passing she has been so sad, baying in ways I've never heard her before and she requires constant companionship.  I knew she would be heartbroken without him but I was wondering of there is anything I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"exrkuzv","c_root_id_B":"exrgd23","created_at_utc_A":1566518178,"created_at_utc_B":1566516262,"score_A":84,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"I hope this allowed. When I had foster dogs and we lost one of a bonded pair, distraction was always the key. They have to mourn, and they do it often in ways we can\u2019t understand, but a small amount of new activities will help. No big changes, it will take time. Good luck and lots of love","human_ref_B":"So sorry for both of you. So heartbreaking to watch your sweet pets suffer, and this is just as real as our pain of loss.  When my one cat had to be put to rest, her cat roomie just followed me around and cried and cried for a week. We got him another cat and he stopped crying. Not that he didn\u2019t miss her still, but it must be comforting to have another of ones kind around especially when you\u2019re used to it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1916.0,"score_ratio":2.1}
{"post_id":"cu1drd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How to Console a Mourning Pup? I had a pair of 12 year old Basset Hounds, one male and one female. On Tuesday we had to put down our Male because of a tumor. The two were best friends and really relied on each other for emotional support. Since his passing she has been so sad, baying in ways I've never heard her before and she requires constant companionship.  I knew she would be heartbroken without him but I was wondering of there is anything I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"exrgd23","c_root_id_B":"exrom03","created_at_utc_A":1566516262,"created_at_utc_B":1566520211,"score_A":40,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"So sorry for both of you. So heartbreaking to watch your sweet pets suffer, and this is just as real as our pain of loss.  When my one cat had to be put to rest, her cat roomie just followed me around and cried and cried for a week. We got him another cat and he stopped crying. Not that he didn\u2019t miss her still, but it must be comforting to have another of ones kind around especially when you\u2019re used to it.","human_ref_B":"Whenever another pet or an owner passes it's always a good idea to let them see the body so they can understand that they have passed away and in a way, get some closure (as there really is no way of explaining to them that they are gone for good).  It may be a little late for that, so extra attention and more activities is a good idea, try to give them a new routine too (start small: short walks, plays and cuddle sessions at specific times) and then move on to bigger changes like introducing them to new doggie friends, or bringing home a new best friend.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3949.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"d8qgbu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My healthy 6 year old cat just died during a grooming at my vet. I was told it was most likely an undiagnosed heart condition reacting with the sedative (since he did not take kindly to handling by strangers). How likely is it I'm being lied to? For the record I already looked at legal stuff and apparently there's nothing that can be done in a case like this, so I'm not asking for any reason like that. I just want to know for my own reasons.  He had never had a single health problem as long as he lived and played actively with my other cat every single day.  Thank you.  Domestic shorthair, male, 13 lbs, United States.","c_root_id_A":"f1cmwf0","c_root_id_B":"f1d5dd0","created_at_utc_A":1569360954,"created_at_utc_B":1569374316,"score_A":5,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for your loss. I came home one day and found my otherwise healthy cat dead on my bedroom floor. Totally out of nowhere and unexplained. I understand your pain and confusion. As far as I found, cats can suddenly die by undiagnosed heart conditions that cause clots in their legs that instantly kills them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13362.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"d8qgbu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My healthy 6 year old cat just died during a grooming at my vet. I was told it was most likely an undiagnosed heart condition reacting with the sedative (since he did not take kindly to handling by strangers). How likely is it I'm being lied to? For the record I already looked at legal stuff and apparently there's nothing that can be done in a case like this, so I'm not asking for any reason like that. I just want to know for my own reasons.  He had never had a single health problem as long as he lived and played actively with my other cat every single day.  Thank you.  Domestic shorthair, male, 13 lbs, United States.","c_root_id_A":"f1d5dd0","c_root_id_B":"f1cuiu4","created_at_utc_A":1569374316,"created_at_utc_B":1569366215,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss. I came home one day and found my otherwise healthy cat dead on my bedroom floor. Totally out of nowhere and unexplained. I understand your pain and confusion. As far as I found, cats can suddenly die by undiagnosed heart conditions that cause clots in their legs that instantly kills them.","human_ref_B":"Did you do bloodwork before sedation? Or was it oral?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8101.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"osehix","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed after neuter? Hello,  Earlier today I dropped my cat off at the vet to be neutered. Later in the day we got a call saying that the procedure went fine and he should be ready to be picked up in about an hour. Right when I was about to head out I got another call telling me that all of a sudden they found him unable to breath and without a heartbeat and declared dead.  When I spoke to the vet they claimed that after the surgery when the anesthesia wore off he was up and seemed fine and they put him in a cage for recovery. They said they \u201cchecked periodically,\u201d but that apparently meant that they would just walk pass him and have a glance at him. Within that hour, they found him without a heartbeat and claimed to make attempts to revive him with no luck.   Something about this seems off though. Although I did not opt for blood work, they claimed that they saw no signs of negative reactions to anesthesia. The fact that they claimed he was fine after surgery and suddenly passed after does not sound right either. What if in that critical moment that my cat stopped breathing, he needed CPR or to be monitored? Is this negligence?   Is there anyone that can tell me the required procedure for a cat neuter and the possibility that this cause could be an example of malpractice?","c_root_id_A":"h6obw63","c_root_id_B":"h6obl67","created_at_utc_A":1627363655,"created_at_utc_B":1627363423,"score_A":149,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.   I wasn\u2019t there so I can\u2019t say what happened for sure, but when a pet is recovering from anesthesia someone stays with them until they\u2019re swallowing and holding their head up. Once they\u2019re awake, checking periodically is how they\u2019re monitored. No one continuously stares at their patient until the owner picks them up. If someone had noticed the second his heart stopped and performed CPR, they may have saved him, but the probability of that is minuscule. It\u2019s not negligence to periodically check in on a patient who is otherwise apparently healthy and had a routine procedure.   It\u2019s entirely possible he had an underlying disease process or cause for this. If you feel like you want more answers, you could opt for a necropsy either there or at another facility.  I\u2019m very sorry this happened, the risk of anesthesia is never zero, but it\u2019s still awful when these things happen. I understand you\u2019re upset and angry, but from just what you\u2019ve presented I don\u2019t see any reason to think this is malpractice. I think your best bet is to talk to the vet and then get a necropsy for more answers if you\u2019re not satisfied with what they tell you.","human_ref_B":"Most anesthetic deaths occur after anesthesia ends (I believe most commonly within 3 hours after anesthesia). It is still very rare, but when you do have an anesthetic death it is most commonly in the timeframe you described. I have been fortunate enough to not yet lose a patient from a routine procedure, but it does happen. Without bloodwork we don't know if he had any underlying issues that may have made him higher risk, but even when everything looks normal patients can pass away unexpectedly. It is rare, but happens.  Nothing you described would indicate malpractice.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":232.0,"score_ratio":2.4032258065}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2mun4r","c_root_id_B":"h2mzju3","created_at_utc_A":1624354532,"created_at_utc_B":1624359052,"score_A":10,"score_B":95,"human_ref_A":"Try lying down on the floor with\/near him and just being calm or even taking a nap. Also make sure he has access to a familiar spot - his crate or a hideout bed or something. When I moved my cats I had them in a large dog crate with their favorite covered bed, familiar toys, and some food and water in it. I also put a dirty t-shirt of mine in it with my smell on it. I kept it untouched (other than changing the food and water) for a week or more - until my cats were adjusted - after each move. I moved once a year for several years and this was the best method I found. I know it\u2019s too late to establish the crate first, but at least bringing in familiar bed and toys into the bathroom, making sure he has access to food and water, and showing him you\u2019re calm will help a lot. It\u2019s okay to keep him in the bathroom for several days. If it\u2019s attached to a bedroom, that\u2019s better. But some cats do better being gradually exposed to new environments, one room at a time.","human_ref_B":"Put them both in one quiet room (if they get along, or separate them if they don't). Put in they did, water and litterbox. Put in some things that smell of you. Leave them alone. Sit in there with them if you want, but ignore them unless they come to you for comfort, then pat them as you usually world.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4520.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2mun4r","c_root_id_B":"h2mzo91","created_at_utc_A":1624354532,"created_at_utc_B":1624359151,"score_A":10,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Try lying down on the floor with\/near him and just being calm or even taking a nap. Also make sure he has access to a familiar spot - his crate or a hideout bed or something. When I moved my cats I had them in a large dog crate with their favorite covered bed, familiar toys, and some food and water in it. I also put a dirty t-shirt of mine in it with my smell on it. I kept it untouched (other than changing the food and water) for a week or more - until my cats were adjusted - after each move. I moved once a year for several years and this was the best method I found. I know it\u2019s too late to establish the crate first, but at least bringing in familiar bed and toys into the bathroom, making sure he has access to food and water, and showing him you\u2019re calm will help a lot. It\u2019s okay to keep him in the bathroom for several days. If it\u2019s attached to a bedroom, that\u2019s better. But some cats do better being gradually exposed to new environments, one room at a time.","human_ref_B":"Confine them to a small safe room with their food, water and litter. Put their toys in there and some of your clothing for the familiar smell. Feliway can also be helpful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4619.0,"score_ratio":4.8}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2mun4r","c_root_id_B":"h2nclqt","created_at_utc_A":1624354532,"created_at_utc_B":1624367756,"score_A":10,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Try lying down on the floor with\/near him and just being calm or even taking a nap. Also make sure he has access to a familiar spot - his crate or a hideout bed or something. When I moved my cats I had them in a large dog crate with their favorite covered bed, familiar toys, and some food and water in it. I also put a dirty t-shirt of mine in it with my smell on it. I kept it untouched (other than changing the food and water) for a week or more - until my cats were adjusted - after each move. I moved once a year for several years and this was the best method I found. I know it\u2019s too late to establish the crate first, but at least bringing in familiar bed and toys into the bathroom, making sure he has access to food and water, and showing him you\u2019re calm will help a lot. It\u2019s okay to keep him in the bathroom for several days. If it\u2019s attached to a bedroom, that\u2019s better. But some cats do better being gradually exposed to new environments, one room at a time.","human_ref_B":"I just did this 3 weeks ago and was so worried about how the cats would take it.  They also had to be in the car (in a wire kennel) for 5 1\/2 hours when neither of them had ever been in the car for longer than the 5 minute trip to the vet where we used to live.  We put them in a room together with a couple of their beds, our blankets and some soft clothes of ours so the smell at least would be familiar.  We also put food and water.  The one cat (she's the skittish one) didn't even leave her kennel for 2 days, much less leave the room.  We ended up bringing the litter box into their room and she went potty right away.  It was once we brought their cat tree in the room that she finally started to sniff around.  We've been here 3 weeks now and she acts like she owns the place.  Cuz, well... she does, lol.  I think the thing that helped her the most was being able to get up high... when they can be up high and scope out things I think is when they feel most comfortable, so my advice would be to make sure he has some high places to get to so he can see things from that vantage point.  Good luck, moving is stressful for both us and our pets!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13224.0,"score_ratio":4.1}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nb3qx","c_root_id_B":"h2nclqt","created_at_utc_A":1624366914,"created_at_utc_B":1624367756,"score_A":10,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"This is a normal reaction.  Just make sure their food and water and litter boxes are where they can find them.  Don\u2019t try to make them come out of hiding, or they will associate you with feeling unsafe.  I\u2019d like to add that whatever room you start them in, make sure it\u2019s a room you\u2019re ready to leave fully available to them for the long haul.  As they branch out, they will be making sure they can escape back to safety the whole time.","human_ref_B":"I just did this 3 weeks ago and was so worried about how the cats would take it.  They also had to be in the car (in a wire kennel) for 5 1\/2 hours when neither of them had ever been in the car for longer than the 5 minute trip to the vet where we used to live.  We put them in a room together with a couple of their beds, our blankets and some soft clothes of ours so the smell at least would be familiar.  We also put food and water.  The one cat (she's the skittish one) didn't even leave her kennel for 2 days, much less leave the room.  We ended up bringing the litter box into their room and she went potty right away.  It was once we brought their cat tree in the room that she finally started to sniff around.  We've been here 3 weeks now and she acts like she owns the place.  Cuz, well... she does, lol.  I think the thing that helped her the most was being able to get up high... when they can be up high and scope out things I think is when they feel most comfortable, so my advice would be to make sure he has some high places to get to so he can see things from that vantage point.  Good luck, moving is stressful for both us and our pets!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":842.0,"score_ratio":4.1}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nvslv","c_root_id_B":"h2noooo","created_at_utc_A":1624377003,"created_at_utc_B":1624373748,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Feliway diffuser","human_ref_B":"Rub some butter on both front paws and then rub the paws through some carpeting in different spots in the house. This helps the new house smell transfer to the cats as they lick there paws! It worked for me","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3255.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nqf69","c_root_id_B":"h2nvslv","created_at_utc_A":1624374554,"created_at_utc_B":1624377003,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"do lots of talking hear them, either directly to them or you and your husband to each other, it\u2019ll take a while and it will feel like torture but they will get used to it eventually - good luck!","human_ref_B":"Feliway diffuser","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2449.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2oc3eg","c_root_id_B":"h2o2pco","created_at_utc_A":1624384314,"created_at_utc_B":1624380118,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I agree with all the comments stating this is normal behavior. Just like people, animals react to changes very differently. If it gets so bad, I'd recommend discussing calming medications or supplements if you're worried about him causing harm to himself or others. As for now, I'd recommend just doing what you can to surround him with familiar and comfortable objects and such. As an addition, if you think calming products would be beneficial, recommendations will vary from vet to vet, but I've seen good results with products like Feliway or even the Sentry brand calming collars\/sprays. They work differently than an oral medication by the use of calming pheromones (typically ones that mimic a mother cat), so it might not work on all animals.","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear your cat is having a rough time adjusting. I would also recommend Feliway which is a calming pheromone that is diffused into the air. I also agree with setting them up in a room with their beds, food, litter box, and shirt or blanket that smells like you and let them get comfortable in that room before letting them explore their new surroundings. It will take more than a day, but you\u2019re a good cat parent for being so concerned and wanting to make them as comfortable as possible:)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4196.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nqf69","c_root_id_B":"h2oc3eg","created_at_utc_A":1624374554,"created_at_utc_B":1624384314,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"do lots of talking hear them, either directly to them or you and your husband to each other, it\u2019ll take a while and it will feel like torture but they will get used to it eventually - good luck!","human_ref_B":"I agree with all the comments stating this is normal behavior. Just like people, animals react to changes very differently. If it gets so bad, I'd recommend discussing calming medications or supplements if you're worried about him causing harm to himself or others. As for now, I'd recommend just doing what you can to surround him with familiar and comfortable objects and such. As an addition, if you think calming products would be beneficial, recommendations will vary from vet to vet, but I've seen good results with products like Feliway or even the Sentry brand calming collars\/sprays. They work differently than an oral medication by the use of calming pheromones (typically ones that mimic a mother cat), so it might not work on all animals.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9760.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nqf69","c_root_id_B":"h2o2pco","created_at_utc_A":1624374554,"created_at_utc_B":1624380118,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"do lots of talking hear them, either directly to them or you and your husband to each other, it\u2019ll take a while and it will feel like torture but they will get used to it eventually - good luck!","human_ref_B":"So sorry to hear your cat is having a rough time adjusting. I would also recommend Feliway which is a calming pheromone that is diffused into the air. I also agree with setting them up in a room with their beds, food, litter box, and shirt or blanket that smells like you and let them get comfortable in that room before letting them explore their new surroundings. It will take more than a day, but you\u2019re a good cat parent for being so concerned and wanting to make them as comfortable as possible:)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5564.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2pevbp","c_root_id_B":"h2nqf69","created_at_utc_A":1624402371,"created_at_utc_B":1624374554,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"He\u2019ll figure it out - he\u2019s just freaked out by his new surroundings and may not realize that it\u2019s a new home for all of you, not just him. Just be patient - little guy will come around in a few days, we promise!","human_ref_B":"do lots of talking hear them, either directly to them or you and your husband to each other, it\u2019ll take a while and it will feel like torture but they will get used to it eventually - good luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27817.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2pevbp","c_root_id_B":"h2owepx","created_at_utc_A":1624402371,"created_at_utc_B":1624393376,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"He\u2019ll figure it out - he\u2019s just freaked out by his new surroundings and may not realize that it\u2019s a new home for all of you, not just him. Just be patient - little guy will come around in a few days, we promise!","human_ref_B":"A calming collar would be a good idea too","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8995.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2pevbp","c_root_id_B":"h2p898s","created_at_utc_A":1624402371,"created_at_utc_B":1624398959,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"He\u2019ll figure it out - he\u2019s just freaked out by his new surroundings and may not realize that it\u2019s a new home for all of you, not just him. Just be patient - little guy will come around in a few days, we promise!","human_ref_B":"Just keep giving him catly loves and space at the same time, make some nice cat spots where he can have a protected shelter and feel comfortable, especially if you can still come give the occasional rub of encouragement","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3412.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2nqf69","c_root_id_B":"h2pns6a","created_at_utc_A":1624374554,"created_at_utc_B":1624407193,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"do lots of talking hear them, either directly to them or you and your husband to each other, it\u2019ll take a while and it will feel like torture but they will get used to it eventually - good luck!","human_ref_B":"Is there still some of his litter at the old place? I've heard people have success bringing their own used litter to the new house. There may be some scent there from another cat that's freaking him out.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":32639.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2pns6a","c_root_id_B":"h2owepx","created_at_utc_A":1624407193,"created_at_utc_B":1624393376,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is there still some of his litter at the old place? I've heard people have success bringing their own used litter to the new house. There may be some scent there from another cat that's freaking him out.","human_ref_B":"A calming collar would be a good idea too","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13817.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o5if1t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Just moved and my cat is NOT taking it well My husband and I bought a house and moved in less than 9 hours ago with our two 12 year old cats. They\u2019ve never lived anywhere but our previous house. I know some will say it\u2019s too soon to be concerned but one cat is not taking it well. He hid behind a toilet for hours, even wedged his head under a pipe. I Finally brought him to our bedroom and he hid under the covers for a few hours (he\u2019s always hated being under blankets). And now for the last hour he has wedged himself between the litter box and the wall and is just crying nonstop. He won\u2019t eat or drink or even have some catnip. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s used the litter box either. Can someone give me some advice on what I can do for him? We tried really hard to make sure it was a calm happy experience for them but it didn\u2019t work and I feel awful that he\u2019s so upset.","c_root_id_A":"h2pns6a","c_root_id_B":"h2p898s","created_at_utc_A":1624407193,"created_at_utc_B":1624398959,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is there still some of his litter at the old place? I've heard people have success bringing their own used litter to the new house. There may be some scent there from another cat that's freaking him out.","human_ref_B":"Just keep giving him catly loves and space at the same time, make some nice cat spots where he can have a protected shelter and feel comfortable, especially if you can still come give the occasional rub of encouragement","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8234.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ja1f6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What is the truth about teeth cleaning? My 11 y\/o dog has bad teeth and the vet recommended a teeth cleaning and anesthesia. However, my best friends dog died under anesthesia and she was only 5 with no known conditions (they later confirmed she had conditions that no one was aware of). I have done a lot of reading online and of course in doing that, only came upon more and more horror stories. My dog has no conditions we are aware of but he does have disgusting teeth and he will not let us brush them. I know they do a test on the dogs blood before putting them under, but dogs still die! Does anyone have any advice? Is it just gamboling, like do I have to chose between risking my dogs life with gum disease or risking my dogs life with anesthesia\/surgery if teeth need to be pulled (I wouldn\u2019t be shocked if many teeth needed to be pulled). Please help if you have any advice or experience with this! My dog is my soul and I don\u2019t know what i would do if I lost him over a procedure that doesn\u2019t seem urgent.","c_root_id_A":"g8nk1md","c_root_id_B":"g8nlruq","created_at_utc_A":1602555156,"created_at_utc_B":1602556178,"score_A":17,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Listen do not let the low chance of anesthesia death stop you from doing dentals. They are so crucial to your animals health. Imagine instead of going to the dentist you just let your teeth fall out from disease. It\u2019s super painful and mouth health is crucial to the rest of your pets health. Doing yearly blood work is really going to help make any anesthesia decision. I know it is scary so let your vet know how you feel and let them explain why or why not your animal is a good anesthesia candidate. If they answer yes make them explain why.","human_ref_B":"The truth is what your vet says.  Take the advice from the educated professional over anecdotal rantings online.  For every person who posts a negative anecdote there\u2019s many more who don\u2019t have that experience.  As someone who has seen disgruntled clients post these accounts, and also seen the actual situation, that client is almost always the one who declines the pre-anesthetic bloodwork (which you did) etc.  Then, IF something happens, they couldn\u2019t possibly take some responsibility for it, so they call out the vet publicly.   I\u2019m not trying to sound sassy! What I\u2019m trying to impart is that if you have a vet who you trust, who employs registered animal health techs and advises things like pre-anesthetic bloodwork you are likely in very good hands.  Don\u2019t be dissuaded in doing the best thing for your boy by a vocal, minute minority of pet owners :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1022.0,"score_ratio":1.0588235294}
{"post_id":"ja1f6d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What is the truth about teeth cleaning? My 11 y\/o dog has bad teeth and the vet recommended a teeth cleaning and anesthesia. However, my best friends dog died under anesthesia and she was only 5 with no known conditions (they later confirmed she had conditions that no one was aware of). I have done a lot of reading online and of course in doing that, only came upon more and more horror stories. My dog has no conditions we are aware of but he does have disgusting teeth and he will not let us brush them. I know they do a test on the dogs blood before putting them under, but dogs still die! Does anyone have any advice? Is it just gamboling, like do I have to chose between risking my dogs life with gum disease or risking my dogs life with anesthesia\/surgery if teeth need to be pulled (I wouldn\u2019t be shocked if many teeth needed to be pulled). Please help if you have any advice or experience with this! My dog is my soul and I don\u2019t know what i would do if I lost him over a procedure that doesn\u2019t seem urgent.","c_root_id_A":"g8og7io","c_root_id_B":"g8nyh64","created_at_utc_A":1602582728,"created_at_utc_B":1602564442,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Just going to add that once dental disease is there it will just progress, and as he gets older the risk of anaesthesia will only go up and the procedure more involved. So definitely would recommend doing sooner rather than waiting until it's a bigger problem.","human_ref_B":"Pre op testing\/anesthesia at a well reviewed clinic is best. Sometimes it\u2019s also better to just remove teeth rather than clean them if they\u2019re too far gone.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18286.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"g9xvi2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Horny 12 year old cat... masturbating. Daily. 12 year old male domestic shorthair, neutered  This has been going on for a while but figured I'd ask here to see if anyone had a take.   Pretty much every day my cat will knead a blanket (as cats do). If I go to pet him he makes a very...distinct meow. I'm not sure how to describe it but it's a bit lower pitch screechy meow and whenever I hear it I know it's go-time. This is always coupled with an erection if I check his downstairs.   I attempt to discourage this and eventually he'll plop down and start licking said erection. Occasionally there's a couple drops of fluid (semen? pee?) on it as well.   Since I've been quarantined I've REALLY started to notice it, oftentimes it's more than once a day. I'll be sitting on the couch and he'll jump on the blanket next to me and start going to town. It also happens when I go to bed (he'll jump in bed next to me and start kneading and doing the screech).  I first noticed it when I was going to bed (same situation described above) end of November 2018. And some probably relevant information is that I moved to a new apartment about a month before that.   I brought this up to the vet and while he was kinda stumped, he didn't seem too concerned. He was thinking it had something to do with him sensing a nearby stray cat, a cat in the building, or a cat that used to live in my unit since this behavior started a month after I moved in.  Is this anything to worry about\/symptom of something serious? Or is he just a horny old man?","c_root_id_A":"foxyvyv","c_root_id_B":"foy5x3c","created_at_utc_A":1588160803,"created_at_utc_B":1588166050,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I would be taking him to the vet to make sure nothing is wrong.","human_ref_B":"Animals masturbate. Even if spayed\/neutered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5247.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"vyzugt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog ingested an unidentified piece of metal. Our current vet has prescribed a med for heavy metal poisoning, PENICILAMINA, which he can\u2019t even find in my country (Mexico). We are looking for a way to get the med from the US, but this all seems like way too complicated and unnecessary. I feel like heavy metal poisoning should be a very common problem in pets, so you should be able to get a suitable med in most countries.  Also, us and the vet are still not sure of the nature of the metal my dog ingested. So maybe he\u2019s making a mistake. Here is a video and some pictures of the thing ingested, an xray of the thing when it was inside my dog, and a thread on r\/whatisthisthing full of people trying to identify the object.  Also, this are her blood test results. Unfortunately they are in Spanish.  Do you guys have any opinions on this or propose a different treatment?  Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ig5ym10","c_root_id_B":"ig67z5g","created_at_utc_A":1657825630,"created_at_utc_B":1657829228,"score_A":13,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Since the whole thing is a little vague, you might ask about a different chelating agent?  For example, Adalken seems to be available in Mexico.","human_ref_B":"How was it removed?  If it was removed via inducing vomiting or endoscopy, I wouldn't rule out that you are dealing with GI ulceration and associated side effects rather than toxicity.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3598.0,"score_ratio":2.3076923077}
{"post_id":"vyzugt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My dog ingested an unidentified piece of metal. Our current vet has prescribed a med for heavy metal poisoning, PENICILAMINA, which he can\u2019t even find in my country (Mexico). We are looking for a way to get the med from the US, but this all seems like way too complicated and unnecessary. I feel like heavy metal poisoning should be a very common problem in pets, so you should be able to get a suitable med in most countries.  Also, us and the vet are still not sure of the nature of the metal my dog ingested. So maybe he\u2019s making a mistake. Here is a video and some pictures of the thing ingested, an xray of the thing when it was inside my dog, and a thread on r\/whatisthisthing full of people trying to identify the object.  Also, this are her blood test results. Unfortunately they are in Spanish.  Do you guys have any opinions on this or propose a different treatment?  Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ig5ym10","c_root_id_B":"ig89dmv","created_at_utc_A":1657825630,"created_at_utc_B":1657863210,"score_A":13,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Since the whole thing is a little vague, you might ask about a different chelating agent?  For example, Adalken seems to be available in Mexico.","human_ref_B":"Hi - I'm in Texas. If it's legal to mail you these meds, have your vet prescribe them here and I'll send them to you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":37580.0,"score_ratio":2.0769230769}
{"post_id":"6dh6nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Am I the only one disappointed by this subreddit? Hi all,   I'm a vet tech currently, and I'm working on my official certification. I want to someday become a veterinarian, but I want to be well-rounded in being able to do everything that needs to be done in a clinic (yes, especially cleaning and doing laundry!)    I subscribed to this subreddit to get some expert opinions on real-world cases. Interesting, boring, anything in between. However, almost every single post I see just says, \"Oh yes, the symptoms you're describing definitely warrant a vet visit.\"   I understand that licenced vets can't exactly diagnose officially and need to have a patient relationship. Obviously nobody wants to risk losing their license over a reddit comment!    My question is: Is recommending a vet visit REALLY all you're allowed to do in these cases? It seems to defeat the purpose of getting an educated opinion if you can't even make a conjecture on any symptoms.  I mean, I don't have the most experience in the field, but I think any old animal lover could tell you that if your kitten fell down the stairs and is lethargic, she needs to go to the vet.   I'm not angry at the vets that contribute- Rather, I'm impressed you guys have time in your busy days to browse Reddit, let alone seek out cases! I'm just trying to learn how all of this works. If I have a veterinary licence, can I not say, \"This isn't a diagnosis, and definitely go the vet\/get a skin scrape to confirm, but it looks like sarcoptic mange\"? I know the ethics of being certified or licensed in anything has a lot of rules, so if anything, I'll take this as a learning opportunity!  Thank you all.","c_root_id_A":"di2q1uw","c_root_id_B":"di2qk6p","created_at_utc_A":1495814253,"created_at_utc_B":1495814829,"score_A":10,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I'm kinda with you. I started writing a post a few days ago looking for information about tick\/flea treatments and I junked it prior to posting because I figured the answers would be \"go ask your vet if ticks\/fleas are a concern in your area\".   I do get it, the post about the dog struggling to breath yesterday was kinda like \"quit posting on the internet and drive your dog to the clinic now, you moron\" but it would be nice if people would throw you a bone once in a while.   (well, since I'm submitting a post anyway. Ticks aren't huge in my area (eastern Canada)(probably too cold) but they seem to be moving into the area close to mine. We went camping last weekend, and never saw anything that remotely resembled a tick, but should I treat the 7 month old newfoundland pup with nexguard proactively?)","human_ref_B":"We exist to inform. Questions we like are \"my cat\/dog\/pig\/walrus has been diagnosed with Alice in Wonderland syndrome\/fish-odour syndrome (real diseases by the way). He's been put on a course of xyz, what's the theory\/pathogenesis of this disease and treatment, and what is the long term prognosis?\"  As you're probably well aware, clinical signs aren't always diagnostic. Take a limping dog - it could have anything from a sprain from being bouncy in the park all the way through to bone cancer.  We aren't a free veterinary clinic, and we don't try to be. Without an examination it's impossible to even attempt to diagnose.  The internet is the largest and most readily accessible source of misinformation in the entire history of mankind. We try to be a reliable source of information for clients, but a lot of the time people just need to go for an examination.    Edit: changed a few sentences to make it less obvious I'm on very little sleep at the moment. The underlying sentiment is still valid though.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":576.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"6dh6nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Am I the only one disappointed by this subreddit? Hi all,   I'm a vet tech currently, and I'm working on my official certification. I want to someday become a veterinarian, but I want to be well-rounded in being able to do everything that needs to be done in a clinic (yes, especially cleaning and doing laundry!)    I subscribed to this subreddit to get some expert opinions on real-world cases. Interesting, boring, anything in between. However, almost every single post I see just says, \"Oh yes, the symptoms you're describing definitely warrant a vet visit.\"   I understand that licenced vets can't exactly diagnose officially and need to have a patient relationship. Obviously nobody wants to risk losing their license over a reddit comment!    My question is: Is recommending a vet visit REALLY all you're allowed to do in these cases? It seems to defeat the purpose of getting an educated opinion if you can't even make a conjecture on any symptoms.  I mean, I don't have the most experience in the field, but I think any old animal lover could tell you that if your kitten fell down the stairs and is lethargic, she needs to go to the vet.   I'm not angry at the vets that contribute- Rather, I'm impressed you guys have time in your busy days to browse Reddit, let alone seek out cases! I'm just trying to learn how all of this works. If I have a veterinary licence, can I not say, \"This isn't a diagnosis, and definitely go the vet\/get a skin scrape to confirm, but it looks like sarcoptic mange\"? I know the ethics of being certified or licensed in anything has a lot of rules, so if anything, I'll take this as a learning opportunity!  Thank you all.","c_root_id_A":"di34qqb","c_root_id_B":"di2spjy","created_at_utc_A":1495831154,"created_at_utc_B":1495817240,"score_A":10,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I always joke that this subreddit name should be taken literally- just ask your vet.","human_ref_B":"When you go through vet school you'll likely take an ethics and jurisprudence course and learn the answers to these questions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13914.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"gm589m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Vet's office cut quicks on 3 of my dog's nails. Should I complain? I just brought my dog to the vet for an appointment and while I asked them to cut her nails while I was there.  She has dark nails, which makes it hard to see the quicks and I know that sometimes she can be fussy about getting her nails done.  The vet called me after examining my dog to let me know that everything was okay and 'oh, by the way, we cut a couple of the nails too short and they're bleeding but it's no big deal.'  They put the quick stop powder on, brought her out to my car and sent us on our way.    I just got home and saw that she is still bleeding and they actually cut \\*three\\* quicks, not two.  To me, this just seems like they were being careless.  Obviously her quicks were long so shouldn't they have adjusted where they were cutting on the nail?  Is this something that I should make a big deal about or just let it go?","c_root_id_A":"fr1tyd8","c_root_id_B":"fr2009g","created_at_utc_A":1589825899,"created_at_utc_B":1589828827,"score_A":238,"score_B":408,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s nearly impossible to see the quick on a black nail. I\u2019m a vet tech and I do a dozen nail trims every day. No matter how careful I am I will quick at least once on a black nail dog. Because what happens is when I\u2019m conservative and take very little the client complains that I didn\u2019t actually cut the nail. So I take a little more and then quick it.   Let it go. If you don\u2019t like it I advise you to do it yourself.","human_ref_B":"I can guarantee you they were not being \u201ccareless\u201d.  Most of the time these things happen because of a combination of reasons like you mentioned \u2014 black nails, uncooperative, aggressive or  scared patients, etc. but I have never seen someone cut quicks because they simply don\u2019t care enough to be careful.  We join this profession to treat and help animals, not to intentionally hurt them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2928.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"gm589m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Vet's office cut quicks on 3 of my dog's nails. Should I complain? I just brought my dog to the vet for an appointment and while I asked them to cut her nails while I was there.  She has dark nails, which makes it hard to see the quicks and I know that sometimes she can be fussy about getting her nails done.  The vet called me after examining my dog to let me know that everything was okay and 'oh, by the way, we cut a couple of the nails too short and they're bleeding but it's no big deal.'  They put the quick stop powder on, brought her out to my car and sent us on our way.    I just got home and saw that she is still bleeding and they actually cut \\*three\\* quicks, not two.  To me, this just seems like they were being careless.  Obviously her quicks were long so shouldn't they have adjusted where they were cutting on the nail?  Is this something that I should make a big deal about or just let it go?","c_root_id_A":"fr1qgvy","c_root_id_B":"fr2009g","created_at_utc_A":1589824210,"created_at_utc_B":1589828827,"score_A":65,"score_B":408,"human_ref_A":"If you don\u2019t like the job your vets office did, do it yourself next time. Cutting dog nails is a pain in the ass. Would you ask your doctor do your nails and complain if you didn\u2019t like the way they came out?  And your dog was probably not standing still to make it easy for them either.","human_ref_B":"I can guarantee you they were not being \u201ccareless\u201d.  Most of the time these things happen because of a combination of reasons like you mentioned \u2014 black nails, uncooperative, aggressive or  scared patients, etc. but I have never seen someone cut quicks because they simply don\u2019t care enough to be careful.  We join this profession to treat and help animals, not to intentionally hurt them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4617.0,"score_ratio":6.2769230769}
{"post_id":"gm589m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Vet's office cut quicks on 3 of my dog's nails. Should I complain? I just brought my dog to the vet for an appointment and while I asked them to cut her nails while I was there.  She has dark nails, which makes it hard to see the quicks and I know that sometimes she can be fussy about getting her nails done.  The vet called me after examining my dog to let me know that everything was okay and 'oh, by the way, we cut a couple of the nails too short and they're bleeding but it's no big deal.'  They put the quick stop powder on, brought her out to my car and sent us on our way.    I just got home and saw that she is still bleeding and they actually cut \\*three\\* quicks, not two.  To me, this just seems like they were being careless.  Obviously her quicks were long so shouldn't they have adjusted where they were cutting on the nail?  Is this something that I should make a big deal about or just let it go?","c_root_id_A":"fr1tyd8","c_root_id_B":"fr1qgvy","created_at_utc_A":1589825899,"created_at_utc_B":1589824210,"score_A":238,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s nearly impossible to see the quick on a black nail. I\u2019m a vet tech and I do a dozen nail trims every day. No matter how careful I am I will quick at least once on a black nail dog. Because what happens is when I\u2019m conservative and take very little the client complains that I didn\u2019t actually cut the nail. So I take a little more and then quick it.   Let it go. If you don\u2019t like it I advise you to do it yourself.","human_ref_B":"If you don\u2019t like the job your vets office did, do it yourself next time. Cutting dog nails is a pain in the ass. Would you ask your doctor do your nails and complain if you didn\u2019t like the way they came out?  And your dog was probably not standing still to make it easy for them either.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1689.0,"score_ratio":3.6615384615}
{"post_id":"gm589m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Vet's office cut quicks on 3 of my dog's nails. Should I complain? I just brought my dog to the vet for an appointment and while I asked them to cut her nails while I was there.  She has dark nails, which makes it hard to see the quicks and I know that sometimes she can be fussy about getting her nails done.  The vet called me after examining my dog to let me know that everything was okay and 'oh, by the way, we cut a couple of the nails too short and they're bleeding but it's no big deal.'  They put the quick stop powder on, brought her out to my car and sent us on our way.    I just got home and saw that she is still bleeding and they actually cut \\*three\\* quicks, not two.  To me, this just seems like they were being careless.  Obviously her quicks were long so shouldn't they have adjusted where they were cutting on the nail?  Is this something that I should make a big deal about or just let it go?","c_root_id_A":"fr1qgvy","c_root_id_B":"fr20tfm","created_at_utc_A":1589824210,"created_at_utc_B":1589829207,"score_A":65,"score_B":145,"human_ref_A":"If you don\u2019t like the job your vets office did, do it yourself next time. Cutting dog nails is a pain in the ass. Would you ask your doctor do your nails and complain if you didn\u2019t like the way they came out?  And your dog was probably not standing still to make it easy for them either.","human_ref_B":"I am a dog groomer, and with black nails it is just something that happens from time to time. Especially if your dog is fussy. They probably should have made sure the bleeding stopped, but they did not do anything neglectful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4997.0,"score_ratio":2.2307692308}
{"post_id":"j8iapp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"A stray dog gave birth to 6 puppies in my neighborhood! The mother trusts me as we\u2019ve been friends for a while, she gave birth 2-3 days ago and Idk how can I help. From previous experiences i know that I should feed the mother and keep her hydrated but my question is that the gave birth to them in a dirt spot so the puppies are sleeping in dirt\/wet sand beside plants so is this safe for them? Or should I try to move them somewhere else or maybe put a blanket\/cloth underneath them?","c_root_id_A":"g8bxwpx","c_root_id_B":"g8c88en","created_at_utc_A":1602343923,"created_at_utc_B":1602349169,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Are there any rescues in your area you can contact?","human_ref_B":"Leave out puppy food for mom specifically","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5246.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"j8iapp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"A stray dog gave birth to 6 puppies in my neighborhood! The mother trusts me as we\u2019ve been friends for a while, she gave birth 2-3 days ago and Idk how can I help. From previous experiences i know that I should feed the mother and keep her hydrated but my question is that the gave birth to them in a dirt spot so the puppies are sleeping in dirt\/wet sand beside plants so is this safe for them? Or should I try to move them somewhere else or maybe put a blanket\/cloth underneath them?","c_root_id_A":"g8e6gxi","c_root_id_B":"g8bxwpx","created_at_utc_A":1602373136,"created_at_utc_B":1602343923,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Vet tech. Biggest risk here is gonna be parvo. You need to get them inside in a clean area. They are too young to be vaccinated. There have got to be rescues you can reach out to","human_ref_B":"Are there any rescues in your area you can contact?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29213.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"j8iapp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"A stray dog gave birth to 6 puppies in my neighborhood! The mother trusts me as we\u2019ve been friends for a while, she gave birth 2-3 days ago and Idk how can I help. From previous experiences i know that I should feed the mother and keep her hydrated but my question is that the gave birth to them in a dirt spot so the puppies are sleeping in dirt\/wet sand beside plants so is this safe for them? Or should I try to move them somewhere else or maybe put a blanket\/cloth underneath them?","c_root_id_A":"g8bxwpx","c_root_id_B":"g8egzuj","created_at_utc_A":1602343923,"created_at_utc_B":1602376537,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Are there any rescues in your area you can contact?","human_ref_B":"Depending on her size, I would get one of those big plastic tubs people use to store things (you may already have one). I'd keep the top on, but cut a hole in so they can get in and out. Be sure to tape up the sides of the hole as they may be a bit sharp. I would use the lid as the floor, then you only need to cut 3 times. Put some nice bedding in there and keep her someplace safe. That and food and water will at least give them a warm dry place to shelter.  Unless of course you want to bring them indoors, but if you do that, I would guess you will end up with 1 dog at minimum.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":32614.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jflqcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"An interesting question for all y'all veterinarians So, in AMC's the Waling Dead, Rick's son Carl gets shot in a hunting accident. The bullet didn't go too deep because a deer absorbed the majority of the energy, but Carl was dying. Also, the bullet fragmented into several pieces in his abdomen. Herschel, a veterinarian had some basic surgical supplies and drugs.  So my question is do you think you could remove the bullet and save Carl if it was the last resort and there were no hospitals & doctors left in existence?","c_root_id_A":"g9l5gkq","c_root_id_B":"g9m0gfu","created_at_utc_A":1603317804,"created_at_utc_B":1603335429,"score_A":77,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"Not impossible, but we're going to have a hard time finding it all without at least an X-ray.","human_ref_B":"Not a real answer but I just want to commend OP for the awesome question.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17625.0,"score_ratio":1.1038961039}
{"post_id":"jflqcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"An interesting question for all y'all veterinarians So, in AMC's the Waling Dead, Rick's son Carl gets shot in a hunting accident. The bullet didn't go too deep because a deer absorbed the majority of the energy, but Carl was dying. Also, the bullet fragmented into several pieces in his abdomen. Herschel, a veterinarian had some basic surgical supplies and drugs.  So my question is do you think you could remove the bullet and save Carl if it was the last resort and there were no hospitals & doctors left in existence?","c_root_id_A":"g9lc2ru","c_root_id_B":"g9m0gfu","created_at_utc_A":1603321267,"created_at_utc_B":1603335429,"score_A":66,"score_B":85,"human_ref_A":"On TV it's all about finding and removing the bullet. You also have to think about all the damage the bullet has done. Perhaps we'll need to to surgery on the intestine, or remove the spleen. We can do that stuff, no problem!","human_ref_B":"Not a real answer but I just want to commend OP for the awesome question.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14162.0,"score_ratio":1.2878787879}
{"post_id":"jflqcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"An interesting question for all y'all veterinarians So, in AMC's the Waling Dead, Rick's son Carl gets shot in a hunting accident. The bullet didn't go too deep because a deer absorbed the majority of the energy, but Carl was dying. Also, the bullet fragmented into several pieces in his abdomen. Herschel, a veterinarian had some basic surgical supplies and drugs.  So my question is do you think you could remove the bullet and save Carl if it was the last resort and there were no hospitals & doctors left in existence?","c_root_id_A":"g9m0gfu","c_root_id_B":"g9lqs12","created_at_utc_A":1603335429,"created_at_utc_B":1603329708,"score_A":85,"score_B":47,"human_ref_A":"Not a real answer but I just want to commend OP for the awesome question.","human_ref_B":"Ya I could do some back alley surgery. Also, finding the bullet isn\u2019t always necessary, it\u2019s about controlling bleeding, which we do all the time","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5721.0,"score_ratio":1.8085106383}
{"post_id":"i6obn7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate a stick of butter Now I will add, this is completely my fault. I was packing some food and set out a stick of butter in the wrapper on a low table. One dog licked it until it fell off, and the other proceeded to eat it.  So my 2.5 year old, 64 pound lab\/golden retriever mix ate the entire stick and the wrapper Friday night (Aug. 7th). I didn\u2019t think it would be any concern, other than the high dose of fat. I kept an eye on poop and everything was normal until this morning. Her poop is lighter in color (close to the color of the butter ironically). The actual poop is a lot harder\/drier than normal, but now (second poop today) some of it had a liquid \u201ccasing\u201d or covering. I don\u2019t know how to explain it.   What should I expect? I gave a call into my vets, but I\u2019m waiting to hear back.","c_root_id_A":"g0yhlyx","c_root_id_B":"g0yguqj","created_at_utc_A":1597028654,"created_at_utc_B":1597028174,"score_A":50,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Main concern here is the fat content as it can create a lot of GI upset (vomiting, diarrhea, inflammation of the pancreas). From you other replies, it sounds like she has begun to have diarrhea, so continue to offer her plenty of fresh water and give her frequent bathroom breaks. You may offer her small meals as long as she is not vomiting. If you have white rice and a lean meat (lean ground beef or chicken breast), you can boil the meat and give it with cooked rice in small amounts until you hear back from your vet. If she begins to vomit uncontrollably, or if there is blood in the diarrhea or vomit, you should visit an ER vet tonight.","human_ref_B":"is the wrapper made of foil?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":480.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"wbwgle","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"can i \"retire\" queen bees and take care of them at home? i want to get into beekeeping, but i feel bad about the queens dying when i have to \"re-queen\" the hive each season.  is it possible to create a sort of habitat where the queens can relax and live out their lives in comfort and rest, instead of me letting them die?  will a neighborhood vet be able to give me health advice for my queen bee retirement community?  &#x200B;  (not a troll question. i'm 100% sincere.)","c_root_id_A":"ii9l2tu","c_root_id_B":"ii9vbwz","created_at_utc_A":1659194086,"created_at_utc_B":1659198666,"score_A":81,"score_B":112,"human_ref_A":"No, queen bees cannot digest their own food and have attendants to do it for her, among other things. When there is a new queen the attendants will abandon the old queen to essentially starve","human_ref_B":"2 bee care questions in a week. I like the direction this sub is moving in.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4580.0,"score_ratio":1.3827160494}
{"post_id":"wbwgle","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"can i \"retire\" queen bees and take care of them at home? i want to get into beekeeping, but i feel bad about the queens dying when i have to \"re-queen\" the hive each season.  is it possible to create a sort of habitat where the queens can relax and live out their lives in comfort and rest, instead of me letting them die?  will a neighborhood vet be able to give me health advice for my queen bee retirement community?  &#x200B;  (not a troll question. i'm 100% sincere.)","c_root_id_A":"iid8n4e","c_root_id_B":"iidg4pv","created_at_utc_A":1659264079,"created_at_utc_B":1659269487,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Love this lol wish I knew more about bees to help you find a solution. Poor Queen bee.","human_ref_B":"You don't HAVE to re-queen a beehive every season - it's possible for a queen to maintain a productive hive for around 5-6 seasons, and if workers notice that the queen isn't performing, they can produce a 'supercedure' queen cell, which will replace the old queen as nature intended. The best you can do is provide a hive with adequate conditions for it to flourish & 'bee' productive. I'd recommend that you join a local beekeeping club where you can ask lots of questions. :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5408.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ovtsnu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Why do some foods HAVE to be approved by a vet? My cat is on a hydrolyzed protein diet that can only be bought with a vet approval. Why is that? I didn\u2019t realize she was out until last night bc I store it in an automatic feeder.    Now I\u2019m scrambling to get this cat food. Vet isn\u2019t approving bc they are closed. I can order from Chewy and it\u2019s automatically approved bc that\u2019s where I usually buy but that\u2019s still 1-2 day delivery. Petsmart has it in stock but won\u2019t give it to me until I have a prescription in hand    Anyway, I\u2019m just wondering why this food HAS to be vet approved? It is safe for all cats to eat.","c_root_id_A":"h7e2q6d","c_root_id_B":"h7e3c6s","created_at_utc_A":1627875773,"created_at_utc_B":1627876125,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"These diets are considered a medical treatment...just like a medicine. Because of their nutritional balance (being specific to the issue\/disease the pet has), they can also cause other pets harm that don't need to eat them.","human_ref_B":"This may be too late to be helpful, but for future reference: Chewy is run by PetSmart. If you are in PetSmart when their Banfield clinic is open, ask if they can retrieve your prescription confirmation through Chewy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":352.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"i0xgnp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My vet fractured the jaw during dental extraction. Mandibular fracture. Going to a specialist tomorrow, what to expect? I have an 11 year old little dog, I got her when she was 7 and she has very bad teeth. We've had a dental every year since, two times with extractions. Two vets, both said that there are several teeth that are bad, but should not be removed due to a high possibility of jaw fracture.  Moved to a new state, new vet, annual dental. I mentioned the previous vets' opinions. New vet took all xrays, and called back saying that those teeth are so loose, there is no risk. I even asked if he meant that there's just standard risks of fracture. He said no, they're so loose, they'll come right out, and they're in bad shape and it's better to nip it in the bud. I assumed they got that much worse and he knew what he was doing, which is my fuck up.   He did end up breaking the jaw.  There's exactly one specialist in our area, and she's here twice a month. She happens to be here, just today and tomorrow, booked up but said she'd recommend other vets in the area. She received the xrays before and after, talked to the guy who broke the jaw, and asked to see us tomorrow morning. This made me even more nervous.  What am I expecting? My dog's jaw is wired and very crooked. She has trouble keeping her tongue in, but she was also under GA for a while. She's small and old. Is this really bad?","c_root_id_A":"fzui4lk","c_root_id_B":"fzuolqs","created_at_utc_A":1596188850,"created_at_utc_B":1596195123,"score_A":12,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Lower canine extractions are reasonably high risk for mandibularfracture, worse with severe periodontal disease, especiallyin a small breed dog, but if the tooth needed out it needed out, personally I find it hard to call which ones will and won't but the good news is usually the jaw heals with minimal complications (though with all in surgery\/ medicine complications can happen) if appropriate care is given, and your going to get that with the specialist  :)","human_ref_B":"Just popping in to add on: OP, despite the complication, you did, and are doing, a good thing for your dog, and good for you for taking dental health seriously and going to the specialist! It sucks to have had the fracture happen, but apparently in your dogs case the alternative was likely living in continued pain from the dental disease, rather than the hopefully shorter term but more dramatically noticable jaw fracture issue.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6273.0,"score_ratio":1.4166666667}
{"post_id":"cz57ae","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog got into it with a raccoon Sunday and had two scratches. We rushed her to the vet ER Where they gave her a rabies booster. I\u2019m so worried about her and my wife and my well-being. She kissed my wife on the lips while we were waiting at the vet. ER said we should only worry if we got bit.","c_root_id_A":"eyx6cbp","c_root_id_B":"eywy4ql","created_at_utc_A":1567545800,"created_at_utc_B":1567540531,"score_A":22,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Definitely work with public health officials, human doctors often have no clue about rabies (I\u2019m an epidemiologist and take on call and the vast majority of calls are from ER doctors at all hours of the night calling about possible rabies exposure). Per CDC (in US):  An animal is bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies virus from the infected saliva enters the wound. Rabies virus travels through the nerves to the spinal cord and brain. This process can last approximately 3 to 12 weeks. The animal has no signs of illness during this time. When it reaches the brain, the virus multiplies rapidly and passes to the salivary glands. The animal begins to show signs of the disease. The infected animal usually dies within 7 days of becoming sick. (https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/rabies\/transmission\/body.html)  Within an hour of a bite there is essentially 0 chance that your dog would be able to transmit virus in that time via licking you.   If you are in the US never hesitate to call your local health department for consultation.   Hope all is well with your dog, that\u2019s never a fun situation.","human_ref_B":"I'm going to disagree with the top comment. Based on the details we've been given, the dog having \"got into it\" with a raccoon highly suggests there was some biting\/snapping that occurred. Yes, it is quite impossible for the dog to have been infected and subsequently shedding rabies virus in saliva so soon after contact with the raccoon, but it's possible the dog was contaminated with saliva from the raccoon.  Though we don't know if the raccoon was infected (I presume it was not captured\/submitted for diagnostic tests), typically health departments recommend prophylaxis when rabies cannot be definitively ruled out in cases of exposure to wildlife hosts.  Rabies virus in saliva may or may not be rapidly inactivated ex vivo, depending on humidity\/temperature\/UV contact. While unlikely, I believe it **theoretically possible** that a dog's mouth\/saliva could become contaminated with virus shed from a contact wild animal and transfer that virus to another host. I emphasize theoretically, and am not suggesting this is the case for the present discussion.   However, we should not be so focused on the traditional pathogenesis (exposure-->infection-->extension to CNS-->shedding of virus in salivary secretions) that we write off atypical forms of exposure.   TL;DR for OP and others: if we are to assume the raccoon had rabies out of an abundance of caution, ***the dog has practically nil risk of contracting the disease based on vaccine history***. There is an ***incredibly small, but real (in my opinion), risk they were exposed to raccoon saliva if the dog kiss involved contact with the oral mucus membrane***.  You should contact a human physician or other human medicine professional to describe your specific situation and receive advice from those with much more experience. In general, post-exposure prophylaxis is not the same painful procedure\/series of shots people may recall hearing stories about. Despite the low theoretical risk in this particular situation, we (*the 'royal' we*\\--I'm a veterinarian  and not a human physician) have the ability to decrease that risk to zero.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5269.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"cz57ae","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog got into it with a raccoon Sunday and had two scratches. We rushed her to the vet ER Where they gave her a rabies booster. I\u2019m so worried about her and my wife and my well-being. She kissed my wife on the lips while we were waiting at the vet. ER said we should only worry if we got bit.","c_root_id_A":"eyx6cbp","c_root_id_B":"eywqduj","created_at_utc_A":1567545800,"created_at_utc_B":1567535487,"score_A":22,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Definitely work with public health officials, human doctors often have no clue about rabies (I\u2019m an epidemiologist and take on call and the vast majority of calls are from ER doctors at all hours of the night calling about possible rabies exposure). Per CDC (in US):  An animal is bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies virus from the infected saliva enters the wound. Rabies virus travels through the nerves to the spinal cord and brain. This process can last approximately 3 to 12 weeks. The animal has no signs of illness during this time. When it reaches the brain, the virus multiplies rapidly and passes to the salivary glands. The animal begins to show signs of the disease. The infected animal usually dies within 7 days of becoming sick. (https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/rabies\/transmission\/body.html)  Within an hour of a bite there is essentially 0 chance that your dog would be able to transmit virus in that time via licking you.   If you are in the US never hesitate to call your local health department for consultation.   Hope all is well with your dog, that\u2019s never a fun situation.","human_ref_B":"As you\u2019re worried, speak with your public health unit or equivalent.  I\u2019m not sure in which country you are located, but in Canada some of the primary care physicians (in my experience) are not as informed on rabies because of its low incidence (with the exception of bats in which it occurs more often).  Public health is the authority to contact.  They can assess your risk and either put your mind at ease, or, administer post-exposure prophylaxis which will be effective given the timeline.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10313.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"cz57ae","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog got into it with a raccoon Sunday and had two scratches. We rushed her to the vet ER Where they gave her a rabies booster. I\u2019m so worried about her and my wife and my well-being. She kissed my wife on the lips while we were waiting at the vet. ER said we should only worry if we got bit.","c_root_id_A":"eywqduj","c_root_id_B":"eywy4ql","created_at_utc_A":1567535487,"created_at_utc_B":1567540531,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"As you\u2019re worried, speak with your public health unit or equivalent.  I\u2019m not sure in which country you are located, but in Canada some of the primary care physicians (in my experience) are not as informed on rabies because of its low incidence (with the exception of bats in which it occurs more often).  Public health is the authority to contact.  They can assess your risk and either put your mind at ease, or, administer post-exposure prophylaxis which will be effective given the timeline.","human_ref_B":"I'm going to disagree with the top comment. Based on the details we've been given, the dog having \"got into it\" with a raccoon highly suggests there was some biting\/snapping that occurred. Yes, it is quite impossible for the dog to have been infected and subsequently shedding rabies virus in saliva so soon after contact with the raccoon, but it's possible the dog was contaminated with saliva from the raccoon.  Though we don't know if the raccoon was infected (I presume it was not captured\/submitted for diagnostic tests), typically health departments recommend prophylaxis when rabies cannot be definitively ruled out in cases of exposure to wildlife hosts.  Rabies virus in saliva may or may not be rapidly inactivated ex vivo, depending on humidity\/temperature\/UV contact. While unlikely, I believe it **theoretically possible** that a dog's mouth\/saliva could become contaminated with virus shed from a contact wild animal and transfer that virus to another host. I emphasize theoretically, and am not suggesting this is the case for the present discussion.   However, we should not be so focused on the traditional pathogenesis (exposure-->infection-->extension to CNS-->shedding of virus in salivary secretions) that we write off atypical forms of exposure.   TL;DR for OP and others: if we are to assume the raccoon had rabies out of an abundance of caution, ***the dog has practically nil risk of contracting the disease based on vaccine history***. There is an ***incredibly small, but real (in my opinion), risk they were exposed to raccoon saliva if the dog kiss involved contact with the oral mucus membrane***.  You should contact a human physician or other human medicine professional to describe your specific situation and receive advice from those with much more experience. In general, post-exposure prophylaxis is not the same painful procedure\/series of shots people may recall hearing stories about. Despite the low theoretical risk in this particular situation, we (*the 'royal' we*\\--I'm a veterinarian  and not a human physician) have the ability to decrease that risk to zero.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5044.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"kad3xc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My sister found this in her Bed, possibly from her dog? Can someone help, she is freaking out. I will post a picture of the \"thing\" in the comments. It is around 3 cm long. My sister describes it as rubbery an \"like flesh\" on top, and hard on the bottom where the teeth (?) are. It also has hair on it.  I suspect it is some sort of tumour her dog spit out? Can someone confirm? It looks really creepy. Or it might be something he ate and then puked out again?  Dog is mixed race, 2 years, male, weighs around 20 kilogram.","c_root_id_A":"gf9q0au","c_root_id_B":"gf9p1vp","created_at_utc_A":1607601805,"created_at_utc_B":1607600898,"score_A":77,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Maybe you can post on r\/whatisthisthing. Folks in there are pretty awesome","human_ref_B":"Does her dog have a tendency to scavenge or chew toys ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":907.0,"score_ratio":1.6041666667}
{"post_id":"l1luiq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?","c_root_id_A":"gk0f79o","c_root_id_B":"gk05ypo","created_at_utc_A":1611191717,"created_at_utc_B":1611186966,"score_A":73,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"What did the owner say exactly? Do u live in America? Because if they\u2019re neglecting the dog you can call the aspca to report them for neglecting the dog\u2019s health issues","human_ref_B":"How old is the dog","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4751.0,"score_ratio":6.6363636364}
{"post_id":"l1luiq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?","c_root_id_A":"gk1at27","c_root_id_B":"gk1kwhf","created_at_utc_A":1611209475,"created_at_utc_B":1611218543,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"It could be a lot of different things - some very serious, others not so much.  There\u2019s no sense in speculating.  The dog should be checked out by a vet promptly and it sounds like you\u2019ve advised the owner of this.  It\u2019s even more urgent if the dog seems lethargic or otherwise sick.  IMO, if the issue is persisting and the owner seems unconcerned, it\u2019s up to you to decline to provide services until being provided with documentation that the issue is being treated\/addressed - however he may just take the dog elsewhere for walking.  You could also report him to your local SPCA (if present) if you feel it necessary and they may be able to require him to seek care.   Could you try bringing up the matter with him again? Maybe give him a heads up by email before? Share your concerns for his dogs well-being.  Perhaps he was just taken off guard the first time.","human_ref_B":"Start by taking a sample to the vet. Pick it up along ur walk.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9068.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"l1luiq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?","c_root_id_A":"gk1031p","c_root_id_B":"gk05ypo","created_at_utc_A":1611202496,"created_at_utc_B":1611186966,"score_A":13,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"What color is the blood? Is it dark or bright red?","human_ref_B":"How old is the dog","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15530.0,"score_ratio":1.1818181818}
{"post_id":"izgzfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Did my cat suffer during euthanasia? I had to have my cat Euthanised today, Bam Bam had been a stray for 10 years before he showed up at my house a year ago, we took him to the vet and discovered that he was in stage 3 renal failure. Over the last week he suddenly went down hill after being fine since we took him in, after 2 days on fluids the vet informed me that he was in final stages and would need to be euthanised. She said she\u2019d never seen a cat with such high levels of some chemical in his blood. I\u2019ve never experienced death before, I was under the impression that he would peacefully fall to sleep during the procedure, he did not. He was standing and we were patting him, he already had a line in from the fluids so she injected him with one syringe of something quickly followed by another. He looked back at her as I think he could feel what she was injecting him with, then suddenly he jerked and contorted his head toward the table and went limp, eyes open the whole time. It was like sudden instantaneous death by brain aneurysm or a gunshot to the head. I was shocked, this all happened quicker than 1 second. What traumatised me most was his sudden head contortion, twisting down into the table. I haven\u2019t been able to get the image out of my mind all day and I feel so incredibly guilty and sad. I don\u2019t know how to process it. The vet even assured me that he would just fall to sleep beforehand so I\u2019m so confused. Did it hurt? Did it paralyse him? Then I feel so guilty about even having him put down in the first place, was it the right decision? He was still eating on his own, she said this was due to his strong food drive after being a stray. Before the injection he was standing, rubbing against me quite hard, he thought I was there to take him home, instead I killed him, I feel like I betrayed him. He had been at the vet for 2 days and hated the vet, should I have taken him home for the night and had him put down the next day? Should I have waited until he stopped eating? He didn\u2019t seem like he was ready to die. I can\u2019t stop replaying it in my mind","c_root_id_A":"g6j154f","c_root_id_B":"g6j0pwd","created_at_utc_A":1601036821,"created_at_utc_B":1601036512,"score_A":47,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for you loss. It's clear how much you cared for him, and it's so unfair how little time we have with our best friends sometimes.  The drug that veterinarians use for euthanasia works by first causing a rapid loss of consciousness followed by its actions for the actual euthanasia. In fact, this drug historically was used for anesthesia (at lower doses) because of how reliably it can help animals lose consciousness.  It's unfortunately not uncommon to see involuntary movements or even vocalizations between the loss of consciousness and the euthanasia. As the other poster explained, these movements are not consciously performed and can be thought of as final bits of the body's electrical activity before the brain goes to sleep. Your pet would not have suffered, nor would he have been aware of these movements occurring. Unfortunately, the eyes do not always close - but this certainly does not indicate that the animal was awake.  After we inject the euthanasia solution, we quickly follow it with another injection of saline - basically just a water solution - that simply ensures that all of the drug made its way into the body and none is trapped in the line.","human_ref_B":"There's a response I saw that I always remind myself of when I am thinking of how to proceed with my elderly girls: Better a week too soon than a moment too late.   I have one with terminal cancer so this is foremost in my mind, your vet thought it was the right time and she has much more experience with this, your cat was happy and relaxed and you did not force him to wait until he was in agony to prove it was the right time. You did the right thing for him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":309.0,"score_ratio":1.46875}
{"post_id":"izgzfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Did my cat suffer during euthanasia? I had to have my cat Euthanised today, Bam Bam had been a stray for 10 years before he showed up at my house a year ago, we took him to the vet and discovered that he was in stage 3 renal failure. Over the last week he suddenly went down hill after being fine since we took him in, after 2 days on fluids the vet informed me that he was in final stages and would need to be euthanised. She said she\u2019d never seen a cat with such high levels of some chemical in his blood. I\u2019ve never experienced death before, I was under the impression that he would peacefully fall to sleep during the procedure, he did not. He was standing and we were patting him, he already had a line in from the fluids so she injected him with one syringe of something quickly followed by another. He looked back at her as I think he could feel what she was injecting him with, then suddenly he jerked and contorted his head toward the table and went limp, eyes open the whole time. It was like sudden instantaneous death by brain aneurysm or a gunshot to the head. I was shocked, this all happened quicker than 1 second. What traumatised me most was his sudden head contortion, twisting down into the table. I haven\u2019t been able to get the image out of my mind all day and I feel so incredibly guilty and sad. I don\u2019t know how to process it. The vet even assured me that he would just fall to sleep beforehand so I\u2019m so confused. Did it hurt? Did it paralyse him? Then I feel so guilty about even having him put down in the first place, was it the right decision? He was still eating on his own, she said this was due to his strong food drive after being a stray. Before the injection he was standing, rubbing against me quite hard, he thought I was there to take him home, instead I killed him, I feel like I betrayed him. He had been at the vet for 2 days and hated the vet, should I have taken him home for the night and had him put down the next day? Should I have waited until he stopped eating? He didn\u2019t seem like he was ready to die. I can\u2019t stop replaying it in my mind","c_root_id_A":"g6j154f","c_root_id_B":"g6izh5o","created_at_utc_A":1601036821,"created_at_utc_B":1601035569,"score_A":47,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for you loss. It's clear how much you cared for him, and it's so unfair how little time we have with our best friends sometimes.  The drug that veterinarians use for euthanasia works by first causing a rapid loss of consciousness followed by its actions for the actual euthanasia. In fact, this drug historically was used for anesthesia (at lower doses) because of how reliably it can help animals lose consciousness.  It's unfortunately not uncommon to see involuntary movements or even vocalizations between the loss of consciousness and the euthanasia. As the other poster explained, these movements are not consciously performed and can be thought of as final bits of the body's electrical activity before the brain goes to sleep. Your pet would not have suffered, nor would he have been aware of these movements occurring. Unfortunately, the eyes do not always close - but this certainly does not indicate that the animal was awake.  After we inject the euthanasia solution, we quickly follow it with another injection of saline - basically just a water solution - that simply ensures that all of the drug made its way into the body and none is trapped in the line.","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry for your loss. If you haven't already I suggest going over to r\/petloss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1252.0,"score_ratio":5.875}
{"post_id":"izgzfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Did my cat suffer during euthanasia? I had to have my cat Euthanised today, Bam Bam had been a stray for 10 years before he showed up at my house a year ago, we took him to the vet and discovered that he was in stage 3 renal failure. Over the last week he suddenly went down hill after being fine since we took him in, after 2 days on fluids the vet informed me that he was in final stages and would need to be euthanised. She said she\u2019d never seen a cat with such high levels of some chemical in his blood. I\u2019ve never experienced death before, I was under the impression that he would peacefully fall to sleep during the procedure, he did not. He was standing and we were patting him, he already had a line in from the fluids so she injected him with one syringe of something quickly followed by another. He looked back at her as I think he could feel what she was injecting him with, then suddenly he jerked and contorted his head toward the table and went limp, eyes open the whole time. It was like sudden instantaneous death by brain aneurysm or a gunshot to the head. I was shocked, this all happened quicker than 1 second. What traumatised me most was his sudden head contortion, twisting down into the table. I haven\u2019t been able to get the image out of my mind all day and I feel so incredibly guilty and sad. I don\u2019t know how to process it. The vet even assured me that he would just fall to sleep beforehand so I\u2019m so confused. Did it hurt? Did it paralyse him? Then I feel so guilty about even having him put down in the first place, was it the right decision? He was still eating on his own, she said this was due to his strong food drive after being a stray. Before the injection he was standing, rubbing against me quite hard, he thought I was there to take him home, instead I killed him, I feel like I betrayed him. He had been at the vet for 2 days and hated the vet, should I have taken him home for the night and had him put down the next day? Should I have waited until he stopped eating? He didn\u2019t seem like he was ready to die. I can\u2019t stop replaying it in my mind","c_root_id_A":"g6izh5o","c_root_id_B":"g6j0pwd","created_at_utc_A":1601035569,"created_at_utc_B":1601036512,"score_A":8,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Im so sorry for your loss. If you haven't already I suggest going over to r\/petloss","human_ref_B":"There's a response I saw that I always remind myself of when I am thinking of how to proceed with my elderly girls: Better a week too soon than a moment too late.   I have one with terminal cancer so this is foremost in my mind, your vet thought it was the right time and she has much more experience with this, your cat was happy and relaxed and you did not force him to wait until he was in agony to prove it was the right time. You did the right thing for him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":943.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"izgzfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Did my cat suffer during euthanasia? I had to have my cat Euthanised today, Bam Bam had been a stray for 10 years before he showed up at my house a year ago, we took him to the vet and discovered that he was in stage 3 renal failure. Over the last week he suddenly went down hill after being fine since we took him in, after 2 days on fluids the vet informed me that he was in final stages and would need to be euthanised. She said she\u2019d never seen a cat with such high levels of some chemical in his blood. I\u2019ve never experienced death before, I was under the impression that he would peacefully fall to sleep during the procedure, he did not. He was standing and we were patting him, he already had a line in from the fluids so she injected him with one syringe of something quickly followed by another. He looked back at her as I think he could feel what she was injecting him with, then suddenly he jerked and contorted his head toward the table and went limp, eyes open the whole time. It was like sudden instantaneous death by brain aneurysm or a gunshot to the head. I was shocked, this all happened quicker than 1 second. What traumatised me most was his sudden head contortion, twisting down into the table. I haven\u2019t been able to get the image out of my mind all day and I feel so incredibly guilty and sad. I don\u2019t know how to process it. The vet even assured me that he would just fall to sleep beforehand so I\u2019m so confused. Did it hurt? Did it paralyse him? Then I feel so guilty about even having him put down in the first place, was it the right decision? He was still eating on his own, she said this was due to his strong food drive after being a stray. Before the injection he was standing, rubbing against me quite hard, he thought I was there to take him home, instead I killed him, I feel like I betrayed him. He had been at the vet for 2 days and hated the vet, should I have taken him home for the night and had him put down the next day? Should I have waited until he stopped eating? He didn\u2019t seem like he was ready to die. I can\u2019t stop replaying it in my mind","c_root_id_A":"g6j1snu","c_root_id_B":"g6izh5o","created_at_utc_A":1601037283,"created_at_utc_B":1601035569,"score_A":16,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you made the right decision. Kidney failure makes them feel awful. Waiting would have prolonged the inevitable and potentially resulted in increased suffering. Based on your vets advice, you were not wrong to euthanise when you did.  During the procedure it sounds like he went very quickly. So although it may have looked abrupt to you and maybe wasn't what was expected, he would have been unaware and was likely the best way it could have gone for him. It would not have suffered.  Edit: removed a confusing sentence","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry for your loss. If you haven't already I suggest going over to r\/petloss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1714.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"q8675e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat went in for dental work and 3 hours after returning home threw up gauze My cat is 12.5 years old, so I was already hesitant to bring her in for dental work. However, she had a small mole near her mouth as well that I want to get analyzed, so I decided to have both procedures done at the same time.  She was put on anesthesia and intubated during the procedure. When I went to pick her up from the vet, she looked to me like she was struggling to breathe or like something was stuck. They told me her oxygen levels were perfect, and I insisted she didn't look well. So they had two vets listen to her heart to make sure her breathing was ok. They said she was OK and the intubation may have caused some inflammation and phlegm and she'd cough the phlegm up.  When I arrive at home, she wasn't moving for 3 hours and continued to do an action that looked like she struggled to breathe. I felt she was almost dead. then all of a sudden, a GIANT ball of gauze comes out of her mouth with mucus around it.   Ever since this happened, she's been recovering fine and has been a lot better overall. I was so terrified though.  I understand accidents happen, and I empathize. But is this type of situation or accident normal ? The clinic found out today and apologized profusely for the incident. I don't feel mad because I'm just grateful my cat is OK. But I don't know if I should be more mad?  Was her life ever at risk because of this? What could have happened? I hear about cats eating big things and throwing them up all the time. I just have a lot of emotions going on, especially since I was convinced she'd die, and now she's laying next to me happily.   TLDR; Cat was under anesthesia and when woke up her breathing seemed off. A few hours later she coughed up a giant ball of gauze. Is this normal? Should I be more angry? Any further issues I should be aware of?   Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hgnilot","c_root_id_B":"hgoyhlg","created_at_utc_A":1634242154,"created_at_utc_B":1634266385,"score_A":51,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Its not ideal and should not happen, but I'm glad your cat is okay! At the end of day, the clinic can take steps to find out why it happened and ensure it does not happen again, and no one got hurt. So I don't think anger is productive. I'm glad you told them.   If your cat suddenly won't eat or is vomiting more, or just you are very worried, I would ask that the clinic work up and provide care if needed (radiographs or ultrasound to ensure no more gauze in the GI tract). Virtually any vet clinic will cover the cost themselves.","human_ref_B":"The thing that bothers me most about this situation is that they disregarded you when you said that her breathing didn't sound right. I know that they listened to her heart, but that wasn't enough.   I think it was a dumb mistake, and I'd ask them to change their procedure to protect future pet patients. I don't think that you can do anything legally, because your kitty cat is okay. I'd just tell them that you understand that mistakes happen but you would feel a lot better if they can tell you what they are going to change to diminish the chances of it happening again.   I'm so happy that your sweet furry friend is okay  :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24231.0,"score_ratio":1.2352941176}
{"post_id":"q8675e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat went in for dental work and 3 hours after returning home threw up gauze My cat is 12.5 years old, so I was already hesitant to bring her in for dental work. However, she had a small mole near her mouth as well that I want to get analyzed, so I decided to have both procedures done at the same time.  She was put on anesthesia and intubated during the procedure. When I went to pick her up from the vet, she looked to me like she was struggling to breathe or like something was stuck. They told me her oxygen levels were perfect, and I insisted she didn't look well. So they had two vets listen to her heart to make sure her breathing was ok. They said she was OK and the intubation may have caused some inflammation and phlegm and she'd cough the phlegm up.  When I arrive at home, she wasn't moving for 3 hours and continued to do an action that looked like she struggled to breathe. I felt she was almost dead. then all of a sudden, a GIANT ball of gauze comes out of her mouth with mucus around it.   Ever since this happened, she's been recovering fine and has been a lot better overall. I was so terrified though.  I understand accidents happen, and I empathize. But is this type of situation or accident normal ? The clinic found out today and apologized profusely for the incident. I don't feel mad because I'm just grateful my cat is OK. But I don't know if I should be more mad?  Was her life ever at risk because of this? What could have happened? I hear about cats eating big things and throwing them up all the time. I just have a lot of emotions going on, especially since I was convinced she'd die, and now she's laying next to me happily.   TLDR; Cat was under anesthesia and when woke up her breathing seemed off. A few hours later she coughed up a giant ball of gauze. Is this normal? Should I be more angry? Any further issues I should be aware of?   Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hgoyhlg","c_root_id_B":"hgnk9fr","created_at_utc_A":1634266385,"created_at_utc_B":1634242840,"score_A":63,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"The thing that bothers me most about this situation is that they disregarded you when you said that her breathing didn't sound right. I know that they listened to her heart, but that wasn't enough.   I think it was a dumb mistake, and I'd ask them to change their procedure to protect future pet patients. I don't think that you can do anything legally, because your kitty cat is okay. I'd just tell them that you understand that mistakes happen but you would feel a lot better if they can tell you what they are going to change to diminish the chances of it happening again.   I'm so happy that your sweet furry friend is okay  :)","human_ref_B":"There was a choking risk especially as she was sedate","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23545.0,"score_ratio":1.575}
{"post_id":"q8675e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat went in for dental work and 3 hours after returning home threw up gauze My cat is 12.5 years old, so I was already hesitant to bring her in for dental work. However, she had a small mole near her mouth as well that I want to get analyzed, so I decided to have both procedures done at the same time.  She was put on anesthesia and intubated during the procedure. When I went to pick her up from the vet, she looked to me like she was struggling to breathe or like something was stuck. They told me her oxygen levels were perfect, and I insisted she didn't look well. So they had two vets listen to her heart to make sure her breathing was ok. They said she was OK and the intubation may have caused some inflammation and phlegm and she'd cough the phlegm up.  When I arrive at home, she wasn't moving for 3 hours and continued to do an action that looked like she struggled to breathe. I felt she was almost dead. then all of a sudden, a GIANT ball of gauze comes out of her mouth with mucus around it.   Ever since this happened, she's been recovering fine and has been a lot better overall. I was so terrified though.  I understand accidents happen, and I empathize. But is this type of situation or accident normal ? The clinic found out today and apologized profusely for the incident. I don't feel mad because I'm just grateful my cat is OK. But I don't know if I should be more mad?  Was her life ever at risk because of this? What could have happened? I hear about cats eating big things and throwing them up all the time. I just have a lot of emotions going on, especially since I was convinced she'd die, and now she's laying next to me happily.   TLDR; Cat was under anesthesia and when woke up her breathing seemed off. A few hours later she coughed up a giant ball of gauze. Is this normal? Should I be more angry? Any further issues I should be aware of?   Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"hgnqunk","c_root_id_B":"hgoyhlg","created_at_utc_A":1634245578,"created_at_utc_B":1634266385,"score_A":28,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Make sure you let them know what happened and hopefully they will change their dental protocol to make sure it doesn't happen to anybody else.","human_ref_B":"The thing that bothers me most about this situation is that they disregarded you when you said that her breathing didn't sound right. I know that they listened to her heart, but that wasn't enough.   I think it was a dumb mistake, and I'd ask them to change their procedure to protect future pet patients. I don't think that you can do anything legally, because your kitty cat is okay. I'd just tell them that you understand that mistakes happen but you would feel a lot better if they can tell you what they are going to change to diminish the chances of it happening again.   I'm so happy that your sweet furry friend is okay  :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20807.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"cg0yf5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet tech went above and beyond, how do I make it right? I see this may not be allowed in the sidebar, but I'm not looking for judgement so much as advice on how to do right by the person caring for my dog. Mods please remove if you must, or redirect me to the right place, or just tell me the right phrase to Google!  TL;DR moved to the top so you can get the gist: My favorite vet tech has a special relationship with my pup. Pup had some complications after surgery, tech took him home with him for the weekend and has been providing above and beyond round-the-clock care for him, along with constant updates, pics, videos etc. I just confirmed he is NOT getting paid by the vet. Hubs and I gave our permission for this with the understanding that the vet is not liable and it is an \"off the record\" arrangement (no advice needed on the wisdom of that - it's unconventional but we trust this guy). I am looking for a ballpark of how much \"fair\" payment for this service would be so that I can double or triple it - dog is thriving and improving and getting all the love, and this man has not yet asked for a dime.   Details if it helps: Male, Jack Russell Terrier, Neutered, 3 yrs. United States. After a year or more of chronic infection, we had his anal glands removed. Sutures opened back up, closed with surgery #2. Sutures opened again and he went downhill over a very stressful weekend, closed with surgery #3 the following Monday. He stayed at the vet for the week following that, with visits from us daily. We visited Friday and spoke with the tech in question. We agreed that he'd improved, but it still didn't look great, and that he wasn't responding to antibiotics as rapidly as we'd like. This would have put us taking him home on a Friday with another weekend of \"do we take him to the emergency vet??\" questions if it started to look off at all, or a weekend at the vet facility with only intermittent checks from the weekend staff. Our tech said \"Why don't I just take him home with me this weekend? I can keep a close eye on it and get in touch with the vet directly if anything looks concerning.\" My heart leapt and I agreed immediately. He took him Friday and has been babying him like he is is own child. Feeding, med administration, walks, lap time, cleaning his incisions, conferred with the vet about changing a med, and sending great updates along with pictures and videos. This is his weekend OFF and he's taken in my baby, who is still leaking poop everywhere and has oozing sutures, into his own home, and is giving him skilled round the clock care. I do not know how to repay this kindness. I don't know him well enough personally to invent the perfect gift, but I know vet techs don't get rich doing their jobs. I have no baseline for how much this would cost if I were to contract with a stranger, but this is far, far more than just dog sitting. Any ideas or advice?  And finally, huge shout-out to the techs and staff out there. I know it's an often thankless job, but I see you. And honestly, I know many of you do it for the animals and not the pet parents, and that is just fine. I like animals better than people too.  Also, I'm typically a lurker not a poster, so I hope I've done this right. :)","c_root_id_A":"eue27tz","c_root_id_B":"eue3zua","created_at_utc_A":1563733435,"created_at_utc_B":1563734747,"score_A":37,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Wow!! What an awesome vet tech! I have no suggestions for you but I sincerely hope your pup gets better and that we all find such amazing vet techs!","human_ref_B":"I mean, I\u2019ve never turned down a card filled with cash (any amount ) and home baked goods. A somewhat standard in home boarding fee could be anywhere from 30-50$ per day. My co worker charges her clients 25$ a visit.  Of course do what you can and factor in like you said it\u2019s not just a standard boarding fee. But of course most importantly if nothing else showing your graduate regardless if if there is a gift attached. Also maybe something for the rest of the clinic staff as well like ordering  pizza for lunch one day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1312.0,"score_ratio":1.5135135135}
{"post_id":"cg0yf5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet tech went above and beyond, how do I make it right? I see this may not be allowed in the sidebar, but I'm not looking for judgement so much as advice on how to do right by the person caring for my dog. Mods please remove if you must, or redirect me to the right place, or just tell me the right phrase to Google!  TL;DR moved to the top so you can get the gist: My favorite vet tech has a special relationship with my pup. Pup had some complications after surgery, tech took him home with him for the weekend and has been providing above and beyond round-the-clock care for him, along with constant updates, pics, videos etc. I just confirmed he is NOT getting paid by the vet. Hubs and I gave our permission for this with the understanding that the vet is not liable and it is an \"off the record\" arrangement (no advice needed on the wisdom of that - it's unconventional but we trust this guy). I am looking for a ballpark of how much \"fair\" payment for this service would be so that I can double or triple it - dog is thriving and improving and getting all the love, and this man has not yet asked for a dime.   Details if it helps: Male, Jack Russell Terrier, Neutered, 3 yrs. United States. After a year or more of chronic infection, we had his anal glands removed. Sutures opened back up, closed with surgery #2. Sutures opened again and he went downhill over a very stressful weekend, closed with surgery #3 the following Monday. He stayed at the vet for the week following that, with visits from us daily. We visited Friday and spoke with the tech in question. We agreed that he'd improved, but it still didn't look great, and that he wasn't responding to antibiotics as rapidly as we'd like. This would have put us taking him home on a Friday with another weekend of \"do we take him to the emergency vet??\" questions if it started to look off at all, or a weekend at the vet facility with only intermittent checks from the weekend staff. Our tech said \"Why don't I just take him home with me this weekend? I can keep a close eye on it and get in touch with the vet directly if anything looks concerning.\" My heart leapt and I agreed immediately. He took him Friday and has been babying him like he is is own child. Feeding, med administration, walks, lap time, cleaning his incisions, conferred with the vet about changing a med, and sending great updates along with pictures and videos. This is his weekend OFF and he's taken in my baby, who is still leaking poop everywhere and has oozing sutures, into his own home, and is giving him skilled round the clock care. I do not know how to repay this kindness. I don't know him well enough personally to invent the perfect gift, but I know vet techs don't get rich doing their jobs. I have no baseline for how much this would cost if I were to contract with a stranger, but this is far, far more than just dog sitting. Any ideas or advice?  And finally, huge shout-out to the techs and staff out there. I know it's an often thankless job, but I see you. And honestly, I know many of you do it for the animals and not the pet parents, and that is just fine. I like animals better than people too.  Also, I'm typically a lurker not a poster, so I hope I've done this right. :)","c_root_id_A":"eueba5k","c_root_id_B":"eueo6tl","created_at_utc_A":1563740054,"created_at_utc_B":1563749377,"score_A":11,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"So I\u2019m a dogsitter and get payed \u20ac30 for a day of sitting (say that includes 3 1h walks and just being there entertaining the dog for the rest of the day). So that would be about the fee you\u2019d pay a stranger to take your dog in for the day. However, with all the extra care attached, the vet tech is doing way more then I\u2019d do on a standard dogsitting day! What an amazing human being he must be :) I hope your dog will get better soon!","human_ref_B":"I did the same thing for a very sick kitty at my practice. The owner asked what my favorite treat was (in the context of another conversation) and ordered a large tub of Moose Munch and had it sent to my house. It was a lovely surprise. I believe she also gave me a check for $25\/day he was with me. Both were deeply appreciated, but I did it because I cared deeply for this person and their cat. The love and care this woman gave her cats was awe inspiring. I knew the owner couldn't afford 24hr ER hospital and I wanted to help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9323.0,"score_ratio":2.8181818182}
{"post_id":"cg0yf5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet tech went above and beyond, how do I make it right? I see this may not be allowed in the sidebar, but I'm not looking for judgement so much as advice on how to do right by the person caring for my dog. Mods please remove if you must, or redirect me to the right place, or just tell me the right phrase to Google!  TL;DR moved to the top so you can get the gist: My favorite vet tech has a special relationship with my pup. Pup had some complications after surgery, tech took him home with him for the weekend and has been providing above and beyond round-the-clock care for him, along with constant updates, pics, videos etc. I just confirmed he is NOT getting paid by the vet. Hubs and I gave our permission for this with the understanding that the vet is not liable and it is an \"off the record\" arrangement (no advice needed on the wisdom of that - it's unconventional but we trust this guy). I am looking for a ballpark of how much \"fair\" payment for this service would be so that I can double or triple it - dog is thriving and improving and getting all the love, and this man has not yet asked for a dime.   Details if it helps: Male, Jack Russell Terrier, Neutered, 3 yrs. United States. After a year or more of chronic infection, we had his anal glands removed. Sutures opened back up, closed with surgery #2. Sutures opened again and he went downhill over a very stressful weekend, closed with surgery #3 the following Monday. He stayed at the vet for the week following that, with visits from us daily. We visited Friday and spoke with the tech in question. We agreed that he'd improved, but it still didn't look great, and that he wasn't responding to antibiotics as rapidly as we'd like. This would have put us taking him home on a Friday with another weekend of \"do we take him to the emergency vet??\" questions if it started to look off at all, or a weekend at the vet facility with only intermittent checks from the weekend staff. Our tech said \"Why don't I just take him home with me this weekend? I can keep a close eye on it and get in touch with the vet directly if anything looks concerning.\" My heart leapt and I agreed immediately. He took him Friday and has been babying him like he is is own child. Feeding, med administration, walks, lap time, cleaning his incisions, conferred with the vet about changing a med, and sending great updates along with pictures and videos. This is his weekend OFF and he's taken in my baby, who is still leaking poop everywhere and has oozing sutures, into his own home, and is giving him skilled round the clock care. I do not know how to repay this kindness. I don't know him well enough personally to invent the perfect gift, but I know vet techs don't get rich doing their jobs. I have no baseline for how much this would cost if I were to contract with a stranger, but this is far, far more than just dog sitting. Any ideas or advice?  And finally, huge shout-out to the techs and staff out there. I know it's an often thankless job, but I see you. And honestly, I know many of you do it for the animals and not the pet parents, and that is just fine. I like animals better than people too.  Also, I'm typically a lurker not a poster, so I hope I've done this right. :)","c_root_id_A":"euepf9t","c_root_id_B":"eueba5k","created_at_utc_A":1563750311,"created_at_utc_B":1563740054,"score_A":29,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"A lot of people have given input on the financial aspect of this, so I\u2019d like to add that a handwritten thank you note and a pic of your pet will mean a lot to him.  And this story made me smile - props to that tech and best wishes for your dog!","human_ref_B":"So I\u2019m a dogsitter and get payed \u20ac30 for a day of sitting (say that includes 3 1h walks and just being there entertaining the dog for the rest of the day). So that would be about the fee you\u2019d pay a stranger to take your dog in for the day. However, with all the extra care attached, the vet tech is doing way more then I\u2019d do on a standard dogsitting day! What an amazing human being he must be :) I hope your dog will get better soon!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10257.0,"score_ratio":2.6363636364}
{"post_id":"cg0yf5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet tech went above and beyond, how do I make it right? I see this may not be allowed in the sidebar, but I'm not looking for judgement so much as advice on how to do right by the person caring for my dog. Mods please remove if you must, or redirect me to the right place, or just tell me the right phrase to Google!  TL;DR moved to the top so you can get the gist: My favorite vet tech has a special relationship with my pup. Pup had some complications after surgery, tech took him home with him for the weekend and has been providing above and beyond round-the-clock care for him, along with constant updates, pics, videos etc. I just confirmed he is NOT getting paid by the vet. Hubs and I gave our permission for this with the understanding that the vet is not liable and it is an \"off the record\" arrangement (no advice needed on the wisdom of that - it's unconventional but we trust this guy). I am looking for a ballpark of how much \"fair\" payment for this service would be so that I can double or triple it - dog is thriving and improving and getting all the love, and this man has not yet asked for a dime.   Details if it helps: Male, Jack Russell Terrier, Neutered, 3 yrs. United States. After a year or more of chronic infection, we had his anal glands removed. Sutures opened back up, closed with surgery #2. Sutures opened again and he went downhill over a very stressful weekend, closed with surgery #3 the following Monday. He stayed at the vet for the week following that, with visits from us daily. We visited Friday and spoke with the tech in question. We agreed that he'd improved, but it still didn't look great, and that he wasn't responding to antibiotics as rapidly as we'd like. This would have put us taking him home on a Friday with another weekend of \"do we take him to the emergency vet??\" questions if it started to look off at all, or a weekend at the vet facility with only intermittent checks from the weekend staff. Our tech said \"Why don't I just take him home with me this weekend? I can keep a close eye on it and get in touch with the vet directly if anything looks concerning.\" My heart leapt and I agreed immediately. He took him Friday and has been babying him like he is is own child. Feeding, med administration, walks, lap time, cleaning his incisions, conferred with the vet about changing a med, and sending great updates along with pictures and videos. This is his weekend OFF and he's taken in my baby, who is still leaking poop everywhere and has oozing sutures, into his own home, and is giving him skilled round the clock care. I do not know how to repay this kindness. I don't know him well enough personally to invent the perfect gift, but I know vet techs don't get rich doing their jobs. I have no baseline for how much this would cost if I were to contract with a stranger, but this is far, far more than just dog sitting. Any ideas or advice?  And finally, huge shout-out to the techs and staff out there. I know it's an often thankless job, but I see you. And honestly, I know many of you do it for the animals and not the pet parents, and that is just fine. I like animals better than people too.  Also, I'm typically a lurker not a poster, so I hope I've done this right. :)","c_root_id_A":"eueba5k","c_root_id_B":"euf4pu0","created_at_utc_A":1563740054,"created_at_utc_B":1563762502,"score_A":11,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"So I\u2019m a dogsitter and get payed \u20ac30 for a day of sitting (say that includes 3 1h walks and just being there entertaining the dog for the rest of the day). So that would be about the fee you\u2019d pay a stranger to take your dog in for the day. However, with all the extra care attached, the vet tech is doing way more then I\u2019d do on a standard dogsitting day! What an amazing human being he must be :) I hope your dog will get better soon!","human_ref_B":"I think enough people have given advice on a tangible reward, but I would like to suggest something slightly outside the box.   &#x200B;  So many people think we're taking advantage of them financially. The reality is that we sacrifice our health and personal lives for these animals. We work off the clock all the time, and our pay rate is drastically below what we deserve.   &#x200B;  I would suggest and request that you spread the truth as far and wide as you can. Educate people on how selfless and caring we actually are. Promote veterinary medicine as a whole and the professionals in this field, because that will encourage people to actually take their animals to the vet and in turn improve the health of pets.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22448.0,"score_ratio":1.7272727273}
{"post_id":"cg0yf5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet tech went above and beyond, how do I make it right? I see this may not be allowed in the sidebar, but I'm not looking for judgement so much as advice on how to do right by the person caring for my dog. Mods please remove if you must, or redirect me to the right place, or just tell me the right phrase to Google!  TL;DR moved to the top so you can get the gist: My favorite vet tech has a special relationship with my pup. Pup had some complications after surgery, tech took him home with him for the weekend and has been providing above and beyond round-the-clock care for him, along with constant updates, pics, videos etc. I just confirmed he is NOT getting paid by the vet. Hubs and I gave our permission for this with the understanding that the vet is not liable and it is an \"off the record\" arrangement (no advice needed on the wisdom of that - it's unconventional but we trust this guy). I am looking for a ballpark of how much \"fair\" payment for this service would be so that I can double or triple it - dog is thriving and improving and getting all the love, and this man has not yet asked for a dime.   Details if it helps: Male, Jack Russell Terrier, Neutered, 3 yrs. United States. After a year or more of chronic infection, we had his anal glands removed. Sutures opened back up, closed with surgery #2. Sutures opened again and he went downhill over a very stressful weekend, closed with surgery #3 the following Monday. He stayed at the vet for the week following that, with visits from us daily. We visited Friday and spoke with the tech in question. We agreed that he'd improved, but it still didn't look great, and that he wasn't responding to antibiotics as rapidly as we'd like. This would have put us taking him home on a Friday with another weekend of \"do we take him to the emergency vet??\" questions if it started to look off at all, or a weekend at the vet facility with only intermittent checks from the weekend staff. Our tech said \"Why don't I just take him home with me this weekend? I can keep a close eye on it and get in touch with the vet directly if anything looks concerning.\" My heart leapt and I agreed immediately. He took him Friday and has been babying him like he is is own child. Feeding, med administration, walks, lap time, cleaning his incisions, conferred with the vet about changing a med, and sending great updates along with pictures and videos. This is his weekend OFF and he's taken in my baby, who is still leaking poop everywhere and has oozing sutures, into his own home, and is giving him skilled round the clock care. I do not know how to repay this kindness. I don't know him well enough personally to invent the perfect gift, but I know vet techs don't get rich doing their jobs. I have no baseline for how much this would cost if I were to contract with a stranger, but this is far, far more than just dog sitting. Any ideas or advice?  And finally, huge shout-out to the techs and staff out there. I know it's an often thankless job, but I see you. And honestly, I know many of you do it for the animals and not the pet parents, and that is just fine. I like animals better than people too.  Also, I'm typically a lurker not a poster, so I hope I've done this right. :)","c_root_id_A":"euf3afg","c_root_id_B":"euf4pu0","created_at_utc_A":1563761331,"created_at_utc_B":1563762502,"score_A":7,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I think something other than cash would make a bigger impression! It seems to me that this person is very self-less and just wants to do for others and the goal would be to get them to do something for themselves. I think a really cool idea would be an airline gift card so that you could help them take a vacation when they need a break!","human_ref_B":"I think enough people have given advice on a tangible reward, but I would like to suggest something slightly outside the box.   &#x200B;  So many people think we're taking advantage of them financially. The reality is that we sacrifice our health and personal lives for these animals. We work off the clock all the time, and our pay rate is drastically below what we deserve.   &#x200B;  I would suggest and request that you spread the truth as far and wide as you can. Educate people on how selfless and caring we actually are. Promote veterinary medicine as a whole and the professionals in this field, because that will encourage people to actually take their animals to the vet and in turn improve the health of pets.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1171.0,"score_ratio":2.7142857143}
{"post_id":"opeyga","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"How common is cat misgendering? We have this stray cat thats been hanging around our house for months. We started feeding her the food that our cat wouldnt finish and its escalated since then. The past month her appetite was huge, we were feeding her almost 5 cans of fancy feast a day. Our cat eats about 1.5. So we assumed she was pregnant. We take her to the vet for a pre-surgery apt\/exam. They give her shots, do bloodwork and confirm that shes a month pregnant. We are ready to formally adopt her. We bring her in the next day for the spay and we get a call from the vet- its a neutered male.   How does this happen? Yeah we made the same mistake but we\u2019re not vets... he did an exam... said he felt kittens. What the fuck?","c_root_id_A":"h66vhwn","c_root_id_B":"h66rv1x","created_at_utc_A":1626999186,"created_at_utc_B":1626997091,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"My only thought is maybe this stray was less than cooperative at the vet and only a very limited exam was able to be done? Peeking at a feral cat's nether regions isn't possible sometimes and maybe they just took your word on the female aspect and went along with it for the enlarged belly.  Not the best medicine but that is my only guess for what happened here.  If kitty is a nice very chill cat at the vet then my theory is out. If you didn't witness the exam there is no telling how the cat reacted in the vet vs at home as I have had actual regular indoor house cats turn murder mittens quickly.","human_ref_B":"It happened to mine! Our old veterinarian confirmed she was female, then when \u201cshe\u201d ( a year old) started peeing all over the house I took \u201cher\u201d to the vet to get spayed and.. she turned out to be a he! Had to change his name of course","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2095.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"pkfu3m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My newborn kitten has it's intestines outside of it's body. My mom is at work and i'm a minor so I can't drive\/take ot to a vet. What do I do?","c_root_id_A":"hc3g2s6","c_root_id_B":"hc3bllv","created_at_utc_A":1631129051,"created_at_utc_B":1631127221,"score_A":66,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but a medical professional so not giving specific advice. However, the intestines need to be wrapped in clear wrap (the kind for wrapping food etc). This will stop excess fluid loss whilst you wait to see a vet.  This is a medical emergency and needs to be seen ASAP but this will help keep kitty comfortable until you can do so","human_ref_B":"Can you call your mom at work? Poor little thing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1830.0,"score_ratio":2.8695652174}
{"post_id":"pkfu3m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My newborn kitten has it's intestines outside of it's body. My mom is at work and i'm a minor so I can't drive\/take ot to a vet. What do I do?","c_root_id_A":"hc3bllv","c_root_id_B":"hc405y4","created_at_utc_A":1631127221,"created_at_utc_B":1631138350,"score_A":23,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Can you call your mom at work? Poor little thing.","human_ref_B":"This is a somewhat common malformation and these kittens are not usually viable. Have it euthanized by your vet if it is still alive at this point. You can call a Taxi or ride share of your choice to get there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11129.0,"score_ratio":2.2173913043}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4nxx50","c_root_id_B":"h4nsljk","created_at_utc_A":1625887249,"created_at_utc_B":1625884035,"score_A":155,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"There likely wasn\u2019t enough onion\/spices on the amount of meat a cat would eat under your supervision to cause it enough harm to justify rushing it to the ER, especially if that cat is not clinical.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not sure how old you are, could you take an Uber or taxi?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3214.0,"score_ratio":38.75}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4o8dyk","c_root_id_B":"h4o3vtx","created_at_utc_A":1625894362,"created_at_utc_B":1625891119,"score_A":137,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"The toxic dose of onions is something like 5g onion for a 1kg cat. A 10 week old cat will be around 1kg. If you gave the cat 7 grams of burger, the risk is fairly low - its mostly meat, not onion or garlic.   The safest thing would have been to see the vet, but I doubt your cat will have any ill effects from it, and at this point inducing vomiting would probably do more harm than good. Don't do it again, and if your cat does show symptoms over the next week, he should definitely be seen, but I doubt he will. If you can see the vet, great, if not try not to worry   I am also concerned for you and the animal if you are living with someone who seriously threatened to kill a 10 week old cat. I wish I knew resources you could reach out to if you need it, maybe a school councilor?","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. Mostly the kitten will be ok. Monitor him for 24 hours. Any signs of lethargy enough to not make him eat or drink, vomit, diarrhea are signs of poisoning. Good luck! But on the offside you do need help, please rush him to the vet in an Uber if possible and explain the money issues to the vet beforehand.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3243.0,"score_ratio":4.1515151515}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4o7p6x","c_root_id_B":"h4o8dyk","created_at_utc_A":1625893855,"created_at_utc_B":1625894362,"score_A":22,"score_B":137,"human_ref_A":"Your kitten will likely be okay. The toxic dose of onions in cats is approximately 5 g per kilogram of body weight. If it was a typical burger patty, I would assume onions made up a small fraction of the estimated 7 grams of burger that he ate. At this point, there\u2019s not a whole lot you can do without taking your kitten to a vet. You could try inducing vomiting at home within 30 mins of ingestion, but it\u2019s unfortunately too late for that. However, please keep in mind that as a kitten, he may be more sensitive to the onion than expected and it can take a couple of days for symptoms to show up. If you see any vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy (not just normal kitten sleeping- I\u2019m talking about being consistently sluggish), yellowing of the skin\/gums\/whites of the eyes, or dark urine, you need to get him to a vet IMMEDIATELY. Even if that involves surrendering him to a shelter. If he starts experiencing those symptoms, he\u2019s very likely to die without medical intervention.","human_ref_B":"The toxic dose of onions is something like 5g onion for a 1kg cat. A 10 week old cat will be around 1kg. If you gave the cat 7 grams of burger, the risk is fairly low - its mostly meat, not onion or garlic.   The safest thing would have been to see the vet, but I doubt your cat will have any ill effects from it, and at this point inducing vomiting would probably do more harm than good. Don't do it again, and if your cat does show symptoms over the next week, he should definitely be seen, but I doubt he will. If you can see the vet, great, if not try not to worry   I am also concerned for you and the animal if you are living with someone who seriously threatened to kill a 10 week old cat. I wish I knew resources you could reach out to if you need it, maybe a school councilor?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":507.0,"score_ratio":6.2272727273}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4o8dyk","c_root_id_B":"h4nsljk","created_at_utc_A":1625894362,"created_at_utc_B":1625884035,"score_A":137,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"The toxic dose of onions is something like 5g onion for a 1kg cat. A 10 week old cat will be around 1kg. If you gave the cat 7 grams of burger, the risk is fairly low - its mostly meat, not onion or garlic.   The safest thing would have been to see the vet, but I doubt your cat will have any ill effects from it, and at this point inducing vomiting would probably do more harm than good. Don't do it again, and if your cat does show symptoms over the next week, he should definitely be seen, but I doubt he will. If you can see the vet, great, if not try not to worry   I am also concerned for you and the animal if you are living with someone who seriously threatened to kill a 10 week old cat. I wish I knew resources you could reach out to if you need it, maybe a school councilor?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not sure how old you are, could you take an Uber or taxi?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10327.0,"score_ratio":34.25}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4nsljk","c_root_id_B":"h4o3vtx","created_at_utc_A":1625884035,"created_at_utc_B":1625891119,"score_A":4,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m not sure how old you are, could you take an Uber or taxi?","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. Mostly the kitten will be ok. Monitor him for 24 hours. Any signs of lethargy enough to not make him eat or drink, vomit, diarrhea are signs of poisoning. Good luck! But on the offside you do need help, please rush him to the vet in an Uber if possible and explain the money issues to the vet beforehand.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7084.0,"score_ratio":8.25}
{"post_id":"oh7kvc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My kitten needs urgent care but my dad won't let me take him to the vet (URGENT) I gave my cat a bit of a burger (the burger wouldn't be more than 7 grams total) but in the burger there were onions and spices. I just searched it up and onions ans spices are very toxic. I just called the vet and she said to bring him in immediately so he can vomit and he would have to stay over night. I told my dad if he can take me and freaked out and said he swears he'll kill it. My kitten is only 10 weeks old I can afford going to the vet my das is worried about the money. What should I do please help. So far he's fine and has no symptoms. He's sleeping rn but one of the symptoms for onion poisoning is lethargy and he slept since he ate it. He played a bit and 10 minutes later he slept.","c_root_id_A":"h4o7p6x","c_root_id_B":"h4nsljk","created_at_utc_A":1625893855,"created_at_utc_B":1625884035,"score_A":22,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Your kitten will likely be okay. The toxic dose of onions in cats is approximately 5 g per kilogram of body weight. If it was a typical burger patty, I would assume onions made up a small fraction of the estimated 7 grams of burger that he ate. At this point, there\u2019s not a whole lot you can do without taking your kitten to a vet. You could try inducing vomiting at home within 30 mins of ingestion, but it\u2019s unfortunately too late for that. However, please keep in mind that as a kitten, he may be more sensitive to the onion than expected and it can take a couple of days for symptoms to show up. If you see any vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy (not just normal kitten sleeping- I\u2019m talking about being consistently sluggish), yellowing of the skin\/gums\/whites of the eyes, or dark urine, you need to get him to a vet IMMEDIATELY. Even if that involves surrendering him to a shelter. If he starts experiencing those symptoms, he\u2019s very likely to die without medical intervention.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not sure how old you are, could you take an Uber or taxi?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9820.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"i73yeb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My neutered cat started humping stuff A LOT Hi everyone, I'm here because my cat has started acting strangely since I'm staying home for quarentine. He started humping a fleece blanket I bought him. At first I was surprised, but I've heard about cat humping stuff and I thought it was going to be something exceptionall. But then he started to do it more often, to the point we are now were he does it multiple times a day and while doing so he meows like he is not having a great time. I've asked a vet when this started and she said it's normal and is most likely due to stress and repressed energy. I try to play with him more, but everytime we start playing with a toy he goes straight to the blanket, which is also weird.   Anyway, I just wanna now if my cat is having a bad time or if he just discovered masturbation and is enjoying it (do cats enjoy sex?).","c_root_id_A":"g10howw","c_root_id_B":"g10e9yr","created_at_utc_A":1597080860,"created_at_utc_B":1597079224,"score_A":30,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Totally normal. If it becomes obsessive or detrimental in any way, you should remove the blanket. The noises he\u2019s making are also not uncommon. Though it may sound like he\u2019s unhappy, it\u2019s quite the opposite.","human_ref_B":"Is it only that particular blanket?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1636.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"ectcp3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Please advise: Our dog tested positive for opiates I am devastated. I live with my deadbeat sister who's at home all day. I work from 9 to 7 so she is alone with the dog.   She has an opiate habit which she administers by inhalation. I recently got drug tests to see if her claims of going clean are true. She tested positive. for a lark I thought I'd check my dog's urine too, to check the effectiveness of the test.   It hit me like a train when his result showed positive for opiates. I suspect my sister must have smoked in his vicinity. She prefers to do it in the toilet and if the door is ajar, the dog, who adores her, likes to sit in the vicinity, just outside the door, maybe 2 feet away from her.   Is it possible that the fumes she inhaled reached our dog in such quantities that he could imbibe it? That would effectively make him a passive smoker.  He doesn't deserve this. What can I do to protect him? I have asked my sister to move into our parents place which is on the other side of the country.    He has never displayed withdrawal symptoms or anything and is an energetic, healthy boy who goes for a run twice a day. Should I take him to the vet? Please help. \ud83d\ude4f  PS: The dog is a mongrel adopted at 2 months from a shelter, 30kg, shiny coat, 1 year old","c_root_id_A":"fbeyzk0","c_root_id_B":"fbenpbt","created_at_utc_A":1576797353,"created_at_utc_B":1576789765,"score_A":35,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Glad to hear the confirmations that tests are not reliable for finite answers in this case. Regardless of this, for both you, your sister, and the dogs\u2019 sake, I want to ask if you keep narcan in the house?  I take overdose reversal reports for the state, and have actually completed one report for narcan administered to a dog.   Ps - it saved the dog\u2019s life","human_ref_B":"He may have licked her foil as well being around her when she's smoking so that could contribute to a positive result. But as someone else said, if she's not showing signs of ill effects I wouldn't worry too much, although I'd still take her to the vet tomorrow. Ask your vet for a proper drug test then you'll have a more definite answer. It was nice of you to take your sister in, but you can't sacrifice your life, family (doggy) and happiness for her, she has to find her own way and she will only do that when she's ready (I've been there).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7588.0,"score_ratio":2.6923076923}
{"post_id":"dliqae","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Euthanized old cat, did I do the right thing? My cat was 17 and perfectly fine until one day. from the morning when we got up she wasn't eating, drinking or moving much. she seemed to be just sleeping all day and we just made sure to make her comfy and give her some water through a dropper throughout the day. her coloring was not good and her little nose and ears were cold, we thought this was the end. We didn't want to rush her to the vet and get all sorts of tests done because she was old and we did not want her to have to die at the vet getting poked and prodded because she would have hated that. so that night she was still hanging on and had a pee accident under her. before this she stood up and tried to walk and she was staggering like she was drunk and ended up just going underneath her and she just laid there in her spot while we pet her and she was moving her tail as if she was responding to us comforting her. This was late at night so we got her comfy and went to bed and in the early morning my mom heard her throw up some liquid and she was breathing really weird. we thought she was passing right then so we comforted her. somehow, she held on for a few hours breathing weird sharp breathes while trying to sleep and we took her to the vet at 10am and they said her color was not good and she had fluid in her lungs it sounded like. the vet said they could do tests but she was so lethargic and given her age she said it might just be her time so we decided to put her down. we cried and held her and she cooperated so well (unlike her if she had still been herself) and when she put the needle in she kind of popped up from laying down for a second really quick then just laid back down and died. the vet said this is normal, often animals get a burst of energy from the euthanasia before they pass but it is haunting me now that it was actually her time and i am racking my brain about how i could help her. what do you think this all was?? did i do the right thing?","c_root_id_A":"f4qra7l","c_root_id_B":"f4qp45w","created_at_utc_A":1571757235,"created_at_utc_B":1571756358,"score_A":49,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry for your loss and what you had to go through. You did the right thing as per the vet recommendation. Let's think of it as she's free from the pain and suffering now.","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet, but from your description and the vets recommendations, I would have made the same decision. I am sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":877.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"dliqae","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Euthanized old cat, did I do the right thing? My cat was 17 and perfectly fine until one day. from the morning when we got up she wasn't eating, drinking or moving much. she seemed to be just sleeping all day and we just made sure to make her comfy and give her some water through a dropper throughout the day. her coloring was not good and her little nose and ears were cold, we thought this was the end. We didn't want to rush her to the vet and get all sorts of tests done because she was old and we did not want her to have to die at the vet getting poked and prodded because she would have hated that. so that night she was still hanging on and had a pee accident under her. before this she stood up and tried to walk and she was staggering like she was drunk and ended up just going underneath her and she just laid there in her spot while we pet her and she was moving her tail as if she was responding to us comforting her. This was late at night so we got her comfy and went to bed and in the early morning my mom heard her throw up some liquid and she was breathing really weird. we thought she was passing right then so we comforted her. somehow, she held on for a few hours breathing weird sharp breathes while trying to sleep and we took her to the vet at 10am and they said her color was not good and she had fluid in her lungs it sounded like. the vet said they could do tests but she was so lethargic and given her age she said it might just be her time so we decided to put her down. we cried and held her and she cooperated so well (unlike her if she had still been herself) and when she put the needle in she kind of popped up from laying down for a second really quick then just laid back down and died. the vet said this is normal, often animals get a burst of energy from the euthanasia before they pass but it is haunting me now that it was actually her time and i am racking my brain about how i could help her. what do you think this all was?? did i do the right thing?","c_root_id_A":"f4s5rmi","c_root_id_B":"f4rbvpp","created_at_utc_A":1571774669,"created_at_utc_B":1571765507,"score_A":22,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, you absolutely did the right thing for your baby. It's an awful decision but it was the right one for her.   Usually when they stop eating and drinking it's because, as sad as it sounds, their organs are shutting down because they are in the final stages of dying. You did the only thing you could have done: surrounded her with comfort and love. She was a very lucky kitty to have you as her human.   Also, as someone who has assisted with many euths, I can confirm that animals often get that tiny burst of energy. No idea what causes it, but it's common.   Your baby knew you were doing the right thing for her \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I think you did the right thing. You gave her a good life and loved her and comforted her. You are a good person.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9162.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ntnaez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"HELP! New Rescue Masturbating! Hi Everyone,  So we just rescued a cat, his name is Spartan. Everything is going great, except for a few things. He loves to be close to us, runs to us when we get home, the whole nine yards. Basically everything we wanted in a cat.  HOWEVER, he masturbates. A lot. ON US. At first we thought he was kneading to show affection, but after observing weird back arches and overall weird body orientation, we figured it out. He is 1 yr 3 months and just got neutered, and we read this can happen if the get fixed that late.  Thing is I get this is natural, and I wouldn\u2019t care if he didn\u2019t do it when he is on us. Especially because we love everything else about him.  So what should we do? Once he starts it is about too. He gets a look that undoubtably means a fight if we move him. Plus when it is this early on, we want to prevent any hissing or fights so we can continue to build mutual trust.   For reference, he did it like 3 times yesterday.  HELP!!  Species: Kitty cat Age: 1 year 3 months Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Orange Tabby Body Weight: 8 lbs  History: Nothing bad. Lived with other cats. Clinical Signs: Self explained Duration: Like 5 minutes Location: Central US","c_root_id_A":"h0v064i","c_root_id_B":"h0ult2v","created_at_utc_A":1623029854,"created_at_utc_B":1623022096,"score_A":19,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, try to predict when it occurs and redirect him before it happens. Provide lots of other enrichment (the OSU Indoor Pet Initiative is great). And if he does start, best to get up and move away.","human_ref_B":"Give him a stuffed animal friend.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7758.0,"score_ratio":1.1176470588}
{"post_id":"ntnaez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"HELP! New Rescue Masturbating! Hi Everyone,  So we just rescued a cat, his name is Spartan. Everything is going great, except for a few things. He loves to be close to us, runs to us when we get home, the whole nine yards. Basically everything we wanted in a cat.  HOWEVER, he masturbates. A lot. ON US. At first we thought he was kneading to show affection, but after observing weird back arches and overall weird body orientation, we figured it out. He is 1 yr 3 months and just got neutered, and we read this can happen if the get fixed that late.  Thing is I get this is natural, and I wouldn\u2019t care if he didn\u2019t do it when he is on us. Especially because we love everything else about him.  So what should we do? Once he starts it is about too. He gets a look that undoubtably means a fight if we move him. Plus when it is this early on, we want to prevent any hissing or fights so we can continue to build mutual trust.   For reference, he did it like 3 times yesterday.  HELP!!  Species: Kitty cat Age: 1 year 3 months Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Orange Tabby Body Weight: 8 lbs  History: Nothing bad. Lived with other cats. Clinical Signs: Self explained Duration: Like 5 minutes Location: Central US","c_root_id_A":"h0v064i","c_root_id_B":"h0uy3cn","created_at_utc_A":1623029854,"created_at_utc_B":1623028717,"score_A":19,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, try to predict when it occurs and redirect him before it happens. Provide lots of other enrichment (the OSU Indoor Pet Initiative is great). And if he does start, best to get up and move away.","human_ref_B":"A \"special\" blanket may help","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1137.0,"score_ratio":2.375}
{"post_id":"lshqqv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Should I take the neighborhood cat to the vet? (pictures\/video included) Species: Cat   Age: \\~3-4 years   Sex\/neuter status: Male\/neutered   Breed: Orange tabby?  Weight: \\~10-15lbs   Clinical signs: Dark brown discoloration on\/around one ear. No obvious signs of discomfort or itching. Does not appear to have worsened over the past 6 months.  Duration: 6+ months  Location: NJ  Test results\/vet reports: N\/A  History: Our neighborhood cat has some dark discoloration on his ear. It might be nothing, but if it is something that might progress or cause him problems then I would like to try to get him some help. I don\u2019t know when it originated or anything about his history. We moved here last year and learned that our kind neighbor is his primary caretaker. It\u2019s unclear whether it is formally his cat or if he just refers to him as such since he takes care of him. Over the past 6 months, he has warmed up to us quite a bit. He has become a permanent fixture in our everyday lives. I just adore this little guy. If I didn't have a 20-year-old female indoor cat, he would have already had the option of staying inside with us. He\u2019s still a bit timid and acts sort of like a hybrid between a domesticated\/stray so it wouldn\u2019t be easy to get him to a vet and would be stressful for him, but I would certainly try to do so if warranted. Any thoughts would be appreciated!   Please see the link below for pictures\/video:  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Zzb5FKv  PS. For those of you wondering about this sweet boy - He is very well fed and has a nice outdoor shelter that our neighbor built to keep him safe from inclement weather. We also purchased him a space heater that we keep pointed out the door so that he can warm himself up when he feels the need.","c_root_id_A":"gosbycp","c_root_id_B":"gosfxeb","created_at_utc_A":1614307772,"created_at_utc_B":1614309841,"score_A":7,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Is it lumpy at all or protruding? Or just a dark spot? Either way, a little checkup never hurt anyone especially a stray that probably hasn\u2019t had one ever\/in ages :) anyone who does this for outdoor neighborhood cats is a very good and selfless person; thank you so much for caring for this sweet boy. We need more people like you looking out for friendly strays!","human_ref_B":"I'd like to point out that at some point this cat HAS received cursory vet care, because he is ear tipped. No telling how long it's been at this point. But hes part of a tnr","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2069.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"lshqqv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Should I take the neighborhood cat to the vet? (pictures\/video included) Species: Cat   Age: \\~3-4 years   Sex\/neuter status: Male\/neutered   Breed: Orange tabby?  Weight: \\~10-15lbs   Clinical signs: Dark brown discoloration on\/around one ear. No obvious signs of discomfort or itching. Does not appear to have worsened over the past 6 months.  Duration: 6+ months  Location: NJ  Test results\/vet reports: N\/A  History: Our neighborhood cat has some dark discoloration on his ear. It might be nothing, but if it is something that might progress or cause him problems then I would like to try to get him some help. I don\u2019t know when it originated or anything about his history. We moved here last year and learned that our kind neighbor is his primary caretaker. It\u2019s unclear whether it is formally his cat or if he just refers to him as such since he takes care of him. Over the past 6 months, he has warmed up to us quite a bit. He has become a permanent fixture in our everyday lives. I just adore this little guy. If I didn't have a 20-year-old female indoor cat, he would have already had the option of staying inside with us. He\u2019s still a bit timid and acts sort of like a hybrid between a domesticated\/stray so it wouldn\u2019t be easy to get him to a vet and would be stressful for him, but I would certainly try to do so if warranted. Any thoughts would be appreciated!   Please see the link below for pictures\/video:  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Zzb5FKv  PS. For those of you wondering about this sweet boy - He is very well fed and has a nice outdoor shelter that our neighbor built to keep him safe from inclement weather. We also purchased him a space heater that we keep pointed out the door so that he can warm himself up when he feels the need.","c_root_id_A":"gosfxeb","c_root_id_B":"gosakov","created_at_utc_A":1614309841,"created_at_utc_B":1614307065,"score_A":24,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I'd like to point out that at some point this cat HAS received cursory vet care, because he is ear tipped. No telling how long it's been at this point. But hes part of a tnr","human_ref_B":"Take him to the vet. We\u2019ve did that at least three times for a neighborhood cat.??  takes a village ...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2776.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"lshqqv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Should I take the neighborhood cat to the vet? (pictures\/video included) Species: Cat   Age: \\~3-4 years   Sex\/neuter status: Male\/neutered   Breed: Orange tabby?  Weight: \\~10-15lbs   Clinical signs: Dark brown discoloration on\/around one ear. No obvious signs of discomfort or itching. Does not appear to have worsened over the past 6 months.  Duration: 6+ months  Location: NJ  Test results\/vet reports: N\/A  History: Our neighborhood cat has some dark discoloration on his ear. It might be nothing, but if it is something that might progress or cause him problems then I would like to try to get him some help. I don\u2019t know when it originated or anything about his history. We moved here last year and learned that our kind neighbor is his primary caretaker. It\u2019s unclear whether it is formally his cat or if he just refers to him as such since he takes care of him. Over the past 6 months, he has warmed up to us quite a bit. He has become a permanent fixture in our everyday lives. I just adore this little guy. If I didn't have a 20-year-old female indoor cat, he would have already had the option of staying inside with us. He\u2019s still a bit timid and acts sort of like a hybrid between a domesticated\/stray so it wouldn\u2019t be easy to get him to a vet and would be stressful for him, but I would certainly try to do so if warranted. Any thoughts would be appreciated!   Please see the link below for pictures\/video:  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Zzb5FKv  PS. For those of you wondering about this sweet boy - He is very well fed and has a nice outdoor shelter that our neighbor built to keep him safe from inclement weather. We also purchased him a space heater that we keep pointed out the door so that he can warm himself up when he feels the need.","c_root_id_A":"gosbycp","c_root_id_B":"gosakov","created_at_utc_A":1614307772,"created_at_utc_B":1614307065,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is it lumpy at all or protruding? Or just a dark spot? Either way, a little checkup never hurt anyone especially a stray that probably hasn\u2019t had one ever\/in ages :) anyone who does this for outdoor neighborhood cats is a very good and selfless person; thank you so much for caring for this sweet boy. We need more people like you looking out for friendly strays!","human_ref_B":"Take him to the vet. We\u2019ve did that at least three times for a neighborhood cat.??  takes a village ...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":707.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"lshqqv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Should I take the neighborhood cat to the vet? (pictures\/video included) Species: Cat   Age: \\~3-4 years   Sex\/neuter status: Male\/neutered   Breed: Orange tabby?  Weight: \\~10-15lbs   Clinical signs: Dark brown discoloration on\/around one ear. No obvious signs of discomfort or itching. Does not appear to have worsened over the past 6 months.  Duration: 6+ months  Location: NJ  Test results\/vet reports: N\/A  History: Our neighborhood cat has some dark discoloration on his ear. It might be nothing, but if it is something that might progress or cause him problems then I would like to try to get him some help. I don\u2019t know when it originated or anything about his history. We moved here last year and learned that our kind neighbor is his primary caretaker. It\u2019s unclear whether it is formally his cat or if he just refers to him as such since he takes care of him. Over the past 6 months, he has warmed up to us quite a bit. He has become a permanent fixture in our everyday lives. I just adore this little guy. If I didn't have a 20-year-old female indoor cat, he would have already had the option of staying inside with us. He\u2019s still a bit timid and acts sort of like a hybrid between a domesticated\/stray so it wouldn\u2019t be easy to get him to a vet and would be stressful for him, but I would certainly try to do so if warranted. Any thoughts would be appreciated!   Please see the link below for pictures\/video:  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Zzb5FKv  PS. For those of you wondering about this sweet boy - He is very well fed and has a nice outdoor shelter that our neighbor built to keep him safe from inclement weather. We also purchased him a space heater that we keep pointed out the door so that he can warm himself up when he feels the need.","c_root_id_A":"gosakov","c_root_id_B":"goshgrp","created_at_utc_A":1614307065,"created_at_utc_B":1614310662,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Take him to the vet. We\u2019ve did that at least three times for a neighborhood cat.??  takes a village ...","human_ref_B":"I think it sounds like he needs a (non urgent) vet visit. However I would definetly ask your neighbor about whether or not he's their cat, and would it be ok for you to take him to the vet. He may need vaccines ect., but without his medical history there is no way of knowing. Also I would want to make sure he is not already being treated for this issue so he doesn't get a double dose of anything.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3597.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"scd1qo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"I think my cats are traumatized In December my home was hit by a tornado when I was gone and my entire roof blew away. It\u2019s been a rough couple of weeks and we\u2019ve had to stay with relatives and in a hotel before finding a rental. We will be moving again in March when my home repairs are done.  I often find my cats staring at the ceiling, sometimes for 10 minutes or longer at a time. During thunderstorms, they freak out and act panicked. Some of my cats were never affectionate, but now they are always in my lap and wanting attention.  Any advice on what I can do to help them now and also when we move back home?","c_root_id_A":"hu8oguu","c_root_id_B":"hu8icta","created_at_utc_A":1643163922,"created_at_utc_B":1643161333,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Animals can be traumatized, of course! There are a few things you can do. You can buy cat pheromones that you can spray on their bedding and in another places. It apeases them. You can also find these feromones as an electric diffuser. Also make sure they have some places to hide and feel secure. The pheromones also can Help when you all return home (traveling, coming to a new\/remodeled home). And of course a lot of love to them and take care of yourself, all of you experienced a very traumatic situation.","human_ref_B":"I was in a very severe tornado as a teen that destroyed our house and our cat was in it with us. She never really got over anxiety around thunderstorms or sirens for the rest of her life. We would just cuddle her and give her treats whenever that happened. If we knew we were going to be gone during some bad weather, we would make her a little place to hide that was cozy inside our shelter we ended up building inside.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2589.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ogcjl4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"How do I know when to stop brushing my cat? I have a 4 year old male tabby.  Very healthy and happy.  He LOVES getting brushed, and I like doing it cuz it keeps fur off the floors.  But with every brushstroke fur keeps coming off.  He never protests, just rolls around in joy, so I always stop at some arbitrary point because I\u2019m afraid of irritating his skin or giving him a bald spot.  If fur keeps coming off and he doesn\u2019t protest should I keep brushing?  Or is cat hair just really loose (meaning I\u2019m pulling healthy attached hair) and I could potentially give him a bald spot or damage his skin?","c_root_id_A":"h4i753r","c_root_id_B":"h4ifh9r","created_at_utc_A":1625770685,"created_at_utc_B":1625774474,"score_A":31,"score_B":88,"human_ref_A":"we follow the brushing with a lint roller session. Both cats enjoy it and really cuts downon dander and loose fur","human_ref_B":"There's probably a point where it's too much, but he'll let you know if you're hurting or irritating him. I say if he seems happy, go nuts! If it's a soft bristled brush you can't damage the hair or his skin, really, but you're doing him and yourself a big favor by collecting all the shredded fur.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3789.0,"score_ratio":2.8387096774}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo84vuy","c_root_id_B":"eo83yju","created_at_utc_A":1558357412,"created_at_utc_B":1558356680,"score_A":23,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"As an owner with cats affected by this (two of the 90 in the addendum to this paper), I can concur that it's not much fun :(","human_ref_B":"Many tubers, however, are still completely safe for consumption, if properly prepared. YouTubers may be offered with some discretion, as many can cause gastrointestinal upset.  Tubes are still unsafe due to potential for intestinal blockage, as are tubs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":732.0,"score_ratio":2.5555555556}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo8j6ud","c_root_id_B":"eo83yju","created_at_utc_A":1558367772,"created_at_utc_B":1558356680,"score_A":18,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Vaguely related story time:  Longer ago than I care to admit, I used to do mixed practice in an area that had been free of *M. bovis* for more than 50 years. One of our clients was a retirement home for former agricultural workers that maintained a small herd of dairy cows. Long story short, one day we diagnosed one of the cows with bovine TB.  Obviously that caused quite a ruckus. These people did AI on their own cows and hadn't bought any animals for the last 20 years at least, so the question was where the Hell that cow had got itself infected. Authorities got involved and ran an investigation, and eventually figured it out:  One of the retired farm workers had got himself infected with bovine TB decades ago. Given that *M. bovis* has a urinary tropism in humans, the man had lesions in his kidneys, which made him shed TB in his urine. He was in the habit of relieving himself in the barn as people used to do back in the old days, and thus managed to infect a cow with bovine TB he had likely caught from another cow several decades prior.  Again, not directly related, but I though it was a fascinating piece of epidemiological detective work.   (Also, this is one of the many reasons why you shouldn't drink unpasteurized milk.)","human_ref_B":"Many tubers, however, are still completely safe for consumption, if properly prepared. YouTubers may be offered with some discretion, as many can cause gastrointestinal upset.  Tubes are still unsafe due to potential for intestinal blockage, as are tubs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11092.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo8imol","c_root_id_B":"eo8j6ud","created_at_utc_A":1558367388,"created_at_utc_B":1558367772,"score_A":6,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"So...serious question: from a vet POV, is \"raw food\" effectively the dog analogue of the douchey human clean eating\/paleo\/whole 30 movement?    I never paid it much attention because I don't have the time or money for it, but  I guess I did generally assume it was better and never thought about it that way.   Is grain free in the same bucket?","human_ref_B":"Vaguely related story time:  Longer ago than I care to admit, I used to do mixed practice in an area that had been free of *M. bovis* for more than 50 years. One of our clients was a retirement home for former agricultural workers that maintained a small herd of dairy cows. Long story short, one day we diagnosed one of the cows with bovine TB.  Obviously that caused quite a ruckus. These people did AI on their own cows and hadn't bought any animals for the last 20 years at least, so the question was where the Hell that cow had got itself infected. Authorities got involved and ran an investigation, and eventually figured it out:  One of the retired farm workers had got himself infected with bovine TB decades ago. Given that *M. bovis* has a urinary tropism in humans, the man had lesions in his kidneys, which made him shed TB in his urine. He was in the habit of relieving himself in the barn as people used to do back in the old days, and thus managed to infect a cow with bovine TB he had likely caught from another cow several decades prior.  Again, not directly related, but I though it was a fascinating piece of epidemiological detective work.   (Also, this is one of the many reasons why you shouldn't drink unpasteurized milk.)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":384.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo8j6ud","c_root_id_B":"eo8ezw2","created_at_utc_A":1558367772,"created_at_utc_B":1558364957,"score_A":18,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Vaguely related story time:  Longer ago than I care to admit, I used to do mixed practice in an area that had been free of *M. bovis* for more than 50 years. One of our clients was a retirement home for former agricultural workers that maintained a small herd of dairy cows. Long story short, one day we diagnosed one of the cows with bovine TB.  Obviously that caused quite a ruckus. These people did AI on their own cows and hadn't bought any animals for the last 20 years at least, so the question was where the Hell that cow had got itself infected. Authorities got involved and ran an investigation, and eventually figured it out:  One of the retired farm workers had got himself infected with bovine TB decades ago. Given that *M. bovis* has a urinary tropism in humans, the man had lesions in his kidneys, which made him shed TB in his urine. He was in the habit of relieving himself in the barn as people used to do back in the old days, and thus managed to infect a cow with bovine TB he had likely caught from another cow several decades prior.  Again, not directly related, but I though it was a fascinating piece of epidemiological detective work.   (Also, this is one of the many reasons why you shouldn't drink unpasteurized milk.)","human_ref_B":"\u201cSo wild! So natural!\u201d \ud83d\ude02","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2815.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo8ezw2","c_root_id_B":"eo8imol","created_at_utc_A":1558364957,"created_at_utc_B":1558367388,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"\u201cSo wild! So natural!\u201d \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"So...serious question: from a vet POV, is \"raw food\" effectively the dog analogue of the douchey human clean eating\/paleo\/whole 30 movement?    I never paid it much attention because I don't have the time or money for it, but  I guess I did generally assume it was better and never thought about it that way.   Is grain free in the same bucket?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2431.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"bqs35s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Meta] May edition of Why We Don't Recommend Raw: TUBERCULOSIS! Do you want to experience Bovine Tuberculosis? Well now you can! Thanks to Nature's Instinct Wild Venison formula, both you and your cats can get a truly wild (and natural) experience of a disease with an 83% mortality rate! So wild! So natural!   https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1098612X19848455  For more information on what we do recommend, [please see our FAQ.","c_root_id_A":"eo8nhwe","c_root_id_B":"eo9g2xt","created_at_utc_A":1558370692,"created_at_utc_B":1558390560,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Serious question - is freeze dried raw still bad?","human_ref_B":"Haha, thank you for this- seriously.  This is what I needed after a long day at the office (although I surprisingly got home at a decent time)!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19868.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qpgtt","c_root_id_B":"e2qplqy","created_at_utc_A":1532114114,"created_at_utc_B":1532114228,"score_A":43,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"- Cat hit by car  - Unusual intermittent rapid breathing in cat  - PU Surgery  - Cat over-grooming  - Second vet opinion  - 9 month old pug mix  - Abused kitten rescue  - Dog dental cleaning  - Cut pad on dog's foot  - Flea prevention in cats  - Hyperthyroidism and renal disease in cat  - How much should I be feeding my 8 month old kitten?  - Dog hernia surgery cost  - Fractured pelvis  - Greyhound not eating breakfast  - Possible dog broken tail  - 3rd seizure in cat  To claim aaaall we do is tell people to go to the vet is bs.  People need to realise that there is a lot of stuff you can't just do at home with an animal, nor can we diagnose things without actually seeing the patient.  Firstly, history and \"symptoms\" of an animal are often inaccurately described by owners. For example, vomiting\/regurgitation, soft stool\/normal stool\/diarrhoea, frequency and severity of clinical signs, etc. We can't get a full picture from people's description of their pets behaviour. Owners aren't entirely sure about whether their pet is in pain or not unless it's really obvious. They won't be able to tell you if their pet has a headache, toothache, earache, etc.  Because of this, it's important that most pets actually see a vet in person. We know how abdominal organs are supposed to feel. We know what teeth are supposed to look like and whether they're causing pain or not. We can tell you whether their skin or eye problems need treatment or not. We can tell you if your pet has heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, etc ONLY if we can physically examine an animal.  We're not just going to tell you random crap to try, while knowing the animal is actually suffering just because this is a free service.  If owners were really that clued into their pets' wellbeing, we'd see way more people brushing their pets' teeth. It infuriates me when I see a mouth full of painful, rotten teeth and the owner is like \"yeah it's just dog\/cat breath\". No. Just no.","human_ref_B":"The real question is, why do people think that \u201cgo to the vet\u201d doesn\u2019t count as real advice?   You realize that most people are asking a question to this sub that would ordinarily cost anywhere from $30-$70 to get an answer for. Vets and nurses are worked to the bone and most are without proper compensation. For them to then answer questions (for free) for strangers (not current clients) after work (see hours) is an incredibly generous thing to do, and it makes no sense why someone would question their validity or suggest they are somehow being unhelpful on a completely voluntary Internet forum.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":114.0,"score_ratio":1.3720930233}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2ql5o2","c_root_id_B":"e2qplqy","created_at_utc_A":1532110515,"created_at_utc_B":1532114228,"score_A":39,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Well sometimes I think people need that push of being told \u201cyes you need to go to the vet\u201d. A lot of people are unsure if the problem their pet is having is an emergency or if it can wait","human_ref_B":"The real question is, why do people think that \u201cgo to the vet\u201d doesn\u2019t count as real advice?   You realize that most people are asking a question to this sub that would ordinarily cost anywhere from $30-$70 to get an answer for. Vets and nurses are worked to the bone and most are without proper compensation. For them to then answer questions (for free) for strangers (not current clients) after work (see hours) is an incredibly generous thing to do, and it makes no sense why someone would question their validity or suggest they are somehow being unhelpful on a completely voluntary Internet forum.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3713.0,"score_ratio":1.5128205128}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2ql5o2","c_root_id_B":"e2qpgtt","created_at_utc_A":1532110515,"created_at_utc_B":1532114114,"score_A":39,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Well sometimes I think people need that push of being told \u201cyes you need to go to the vet\u201d. A lot of people are unsure if the problem their pet is having is an emergency or if it can wait","human_ref_B":"- Cat hit by car  - Unusual intermittent rapid breathing in cat  - PU Surgery  - Cat over-grooming  - Second vet opinion  - 9 month old pug mix  - Abused kitten rescue  - Dog dental cleaning  - Cut pad on dog's foot  - Flea prevention in cats  - Hyperthyroidism and renal disease in cat  - How much should I be feeding my 8 month old kitten?  - Dog hernia surgery cost  - Fractured pelvis  - Greyhound not eating breakfast  - Possible dog broken tail  - 3rd seizure in cat  To claim aaaall we do is tell people to go to the vet is bs.  People need to realise that there is a lot of stuff you can't just do at home with an animal, nor can we diagnose things without actually seeing the patient.  Firstly, history and \"symptoms\" of an animal are often inaccurately described by owners. For example, vomiting\/regurgitation, soft stool\/normal stool\/diarrhoea, frequency and severity of clinical signs, etc. We can't get a full picture from people's description of their pets behaviour. Owners aren't entirely sure about whether their pet is in pain or not unless it's really obvious. They won't be able to tell you if their pet has a headache, toothache, earache, etc.  Because of this, it's important that most pets actually see a vet in person. We know how abdominal organs are supposed to feel. We know what teeth are supposed to look like and whether they're causing pain or not. We can tell you whether their skin or eye problems need treatment or not. We can tell you if your pet has heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, etc ONLY if we can physically examine an animal.  We're not just going to tell you random crap to try, while knowing the animal is actually suffering just because this is a free service.  If owners were really that clued into their pets' wellbeing, we'd see way more people brushing their pets' teeth. It infuriates me when I see a mouth full of painful, rotten teeth and the owner is like \"yeah it's just dog\/cat breath\". No. Just no.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3599.0,"score_ratio":1.1025641026}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qynr2","c_root_id_B":"e2qqwge","created_at_utc_A":1532122077,"created_at_utc_B":1532115325,"score_A":28,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"On behalf of all the active members of this sub and the vets that take their time to shell out free advice - i found this sub very helpful when i posted a question.  I think a lot of people are posting very serious questions that realistically cant be safely assessed without a vet examining the pet, thus a lot of \"go to the vet\" responses are made.  I was\/am very thankful for the people that took time out if their day to help me.   here is my post","human_ref_B":"It needs to be reiterated that it is illegal to give medical advice without a physical relationship with a patient. Therefore,the generous people in this sub have to be very very careful in choosing what questions to respond to and how to word those responses.   Medical license and career could be jeopardized. In most scenarios, a thorough exam is necessary to even begin to answer questions,  therefore the frequent \u201cgo to vet\u201d.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6752.0,"score_ratio":1.037037037}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qr54w","c_root_id_B":"e2qynr2","created_at_utc_A":1532115527,"created_at_utc_B":1532122077,"score_A":19,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"We get these questions weekly. Hooray! If you search you can find the answer to this many times over.      From a previous question like this:  >We can give you husbandry advice. We can tell you if something is an emergency or not. We can explain what a diagnosis means, what a medication does, and what type of preventative care a pet needs. We can explain how procedures are typically done. We can explain warning signs to look for in a sick pet. We can list resources for how to medicate pets at home, fear free restraint, veterinary specialists, and poison control centers. We can explain the side effects of your pets medications and OTC meds. We can explain the science behind a disease process. We can explain why certain procedures are necessary, and what to expect from them. We can talk about pet food and what to look out for.   We can act as a resource, but we cannot replace the need for medical intervention.   >   >We can even discuss differentials when there is actual lab work\/diagnostics (not just owner info).   >   >Now for some links to threads where I have hopefully helped OP (by doing more than saying \"see a vet\"):   >   >My bird is becoming aggressive!   >   >My 7 y\/o cat has been diagnosed with a food allergy but it's been over a year and multiple different foods without relief. Any ideas?   >   >Redirected aggression between cats   >   >Dog skin problem   >   >How to manage stress with a special needs cat?   >   >Question About Euthanization   >   >'Adopting' a cat from Craigslist-what questions should I ask current owner?   >   >6 week old puppy (runt of the litter) throws up after eating\/drinking.   >   >Help with leash on a cat\/socialization   >   >10yr old pug displaying signs of.. dimentia?   >   >How long before i can get a new kitten after FIP?   >   >Help! Feline Asthma   >   >And I am going to stop there because I could go on and on.  You want more? Okay...  * Dog with some persistent pyoderma\/allergies that won\u2019t go away. In China, just want advice for talking to vet. * Traveling cross country with two cats * Cat acting weird after switch to Orijen Cat Food * My cat keeps getting tapeworms  From a message to the mods on a similar topic, about why we sometimes just type \"this needs to be seen by a vet\":     >It's also important to consider that while I WANT to give thorough an amazing replies every time, it is just not possible. I don't have enough time. :( Sometimes I have to be brief. Especially when we see a post requiring an ER visit, we know we need to comment right away and tell them that (even if we cannot write a detailed response).   If you want another example of a professional subreddit that is moderated heavily, please see r\/legaladvice.","human_ref_B":"On behalf of all the active members of this sub and the vets that take their time to shell out free advice - i found this sub very helpful when i posted a question.  I think a lot of people are posting very serious questions that realistically cant be safely assessed without a vet examining the pet, thus a lot of \"go to the vet\" responses are made.  I was\/am very thankful for the people that took time out if their day to help me.   here is my post","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6550.0,"score_ratio":1.4736842105}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qqyea","c_root_id_B":"e2qynr2","created_at_utc_A":1532115368,"created_at_utc_B":1532122077,"score_A":16,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I used this sub when my dog was acting strange after being sick (I had brought him to the vet and we were giving him medications), and I wasn't sure if he was acting strange enough to go back to the vet or if it was just part of the recovery. I was told his behaviour was fairly normal so I didn't need to contact the vet again. I thought it was useful.","human_ref_B":"On behalf of all the active members of this sub and the vets that take their time to shell out free advice - i found this sub very helpful when i posted a question.  I think a lot of people are posting very serious questions that realistically cant be safely assessed without a vet examining the pet, thus a lot of \"go to the vet\" responses are made.  I was\/am very thankful for the people that took time out if their day to help me.   here is my post","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6709.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qr54w","c_root_id_B":"e2qqyea","created_at_utc_A":1532115527,"created_at_utc_B":1532115368,"score_A":19,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"We get these questions weekly. Hooray! If you search you can find the answer to this many times over.      From a previous question like this:  >We can give you husbandry advice. We can tell you if something is an emergency or not. We can explain what a diagnosis means, what a medication does, and what type of preventative care a pet needs. We can explain how procedures are typically done. We can explain warning signs to look for in a sick pet. We can list resources for how to medicate pets at home, fear free restraint, veterinary specialists, and poison control centers. We can explain the side effects of your pets medications and OTC meds. We can explain the science behind a disease process. We can explain why certain procedures are necessary, and what to expect from them. We can talk about pet food and what to look out for.   We can act as a resource, but we cannot replace the need for medical intervention.   >   >We can even discuss differentials when there is actual lab work\/diagnostics (not just owner info).   >   >Now for some links to threads where I have hopefully helped OP (by doing more than saying \"see a vet\"):   >   >My bird is becoming aggressive!   >   >My 7 y\/o cat has been diagnosed with a food allergy but it's been over a year and multiple different foods without relief. Any ideas?   >   >Redirected aggression between cats   >   >Dog skin problem   >   >How to manage stress with a special needs cat?   >   >Question About Euthanization   >   >'Adopting' a cat from Craigslist-what questions should I ask current owner?   >   >6 week old puppy (runt of the litter) throws up after eating\/drinking.   >   >Help with leash on a cat\/socialization   >   >10yr old pug displaying signs of.. dimentia?   >   >How long before i can get a new kitten after FIP?   >   >Help! Feline Asthma   >   >And I am going to stop there because I could go on and on.  You want more? Okay...  * Dog with some persistent pyoderma\/allergies that won\u2019t go away. In China, just want advice for talking to vet. * Traveling cross country with two cats * Cat acting weird after switch to Orijen Cat Food * My cat keeps getting tapeworms  From a message to the mods on a similar topic, about why we sometimes just type \"this needs to be seen by a vet\":     >It's also important to consider that while I WANT to give thorough an amazing replies every time, it is just not possible. I don't have enough time. :( Sometimes I have to be brief. Especially when we see a post requiring an ER visit, we know we need to comment right away and tell them that (even if we cannot write a detailed response).   If you want another example of a professional subreddit that is moderated heavily, please see r\/legaladvice.","human_ref_B":"I used this sub when my dog was acting strange after being sick (I had brought him to the vet and we were giving him medications), and I wasn't sure if he was acting strange enough to go back to the vet or if it was just part of the recovery. I was told his behaviour was fairly normal so I didn't need to contact the vet again. I thought it was useful.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":159.0,"score_ratio":1.1875}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2qqyea","c_root_id_B":"e2r9f29","created_at_utc_A":1532115368,"created_at_utc_B":1532132698,"score_A":16,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I used this sub when my dog was acting strange after being sick (I had brought him to the vet and we were giving him medications), and I wasn't sure if he was acting strange enough to go back to the vet or if it was just part of the recovery. I was told his behaviour was fairly normal so I didn't need to contact the vet again. I thought it was useful.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ll have to add to the \u2018this sub is great\u2019 pile. I\u2019ve asked questions a few times and received appropriate and helpful advice.   If you want an internet diagnosis go to petmd and learn about how your pet has cancer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17330.0,"score_ratio":1.1875}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r9f29","c_root_id_B":"e2r8owd","created_at_utc_A":1532132698,"created_at_utc_B":1532131927,"score_A":19,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ll have to add to the \u2018this sub is great\u2019 pile. I\u2019ve asked questions a few times and received appropriate and helpful advice.   If you want an internet diagnosis go to petmd and learn about how your pet has cancer.","human_ref_B":"I've posted here a few times when I wasn't sure if my pet needed (a) to be seen by an emergency vet, (b) to be seen as soon as possible by their regular vet, or (c) to be watched for additional symptoms.   Also, I got some incredibly helpful advice about how to make decisions on end of life care for an elderly cat.   On another occasion, I asked if it was necessary to be concerned about the wellbeing of my neighbor's horse, because I don't own horses and wasn't sure if a particular situation was problematic enough to call animal control & risk a neighborhood feud.   The vets here are incredibly helpful and I appreciate all the time they've taken to answer my various questions. I deal with a lot of anxiety, and sometimes I can find resources\/facts here that help me avoid panicking over situations that are not as bad as they seem.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":771.0,"score_ratio":1.2666666667}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r9f29","c_root_id_B":"e2r134e","created_at_utc_A":1532132698,"created_at_utc_B":1532124304,"score_A":19,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ll have to add to the \u2018this sub is great\u2019 pile. I\u2019ve asked questions a few times and received appropriate and helpful advice.   If you want an internet diagnosis go to petmd and learn about how your pet has cancer.","human_ref_B":"I don't mind the \"go to a vet\" answers at all. Sometimes that's exactly what needs to happen. Some people need a push. Especially when is a question of is this an emergency or can it wait until Monday morning. People who come here are expecting honest answers from professionals, well sometimes that means you'll get an answer that your pet needs an exam\/testing done. The problem is when people try to use this sub for a way to avoid the trip to the vet when it's necessary.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8394.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r9f29","c_root_id_B":"e2r92m4","created_at_utc_A":1532132698,"created_at_utc_B":1532132329,"score_A":19,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ll have to add to the \u2018this sub is great\u2019 pile. I\u2019ve asked questions a few times and received appropriate and helpful advice.   If you want an internet diagnosis go to petmd and learn about how your pet has cancer.","human_ref_B":"I've noticed that yes sometimes when people come not asking for a diagnosis, rather some insight, they do get told to go to the vet, but I feel like the majority of the time I go by \"if I have to ask, I should go\". Now if you are just asking for some insight and just get \"go to the vet\" it sucks, I agree.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":369.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r3q3s","c_root_id_B":"e2r9f29","created_at_utc_A":1532126874,"created_at_utc_B":1532132698,"score_A":7,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ll have to add to the \u2018this sub is great\u2019 pile. I\u2019ve asked questions a few times and received appropriate and helpful advice.   If you want an internet diagnosis go to petmd and learn about how your pet has cancer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5824.0,"score_ratio":2.7142857143}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r134e","c_root_id_B":"e2rqa9t","created_at_utc_A":1532124304,"created_at_utc_B":1532154012,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I don't mind the \"go to a vet\" answers at all. Sometimes that's exactly what needs to happen. Some people need a push. Especially when is a question of is this an emergency or can it wait until Monday morning. People who come here are expecting honest answers from professionals, well sometimes that means you'll get an answer that your pet needs an exam\/testing done. The problem is when people try to use this sub for a way to avoid the trip to the vet when it's necessary.","human_ref_B":"I would like to share my experience.  My dog got really sick back in April. The vet told us that it was an urine infection but after a few days of antibiotics my dogs pee wasn't clearing up. I had already set up an appointment to have a call with my vet but was at a loss on what I should ask. I just wanted my puppy to be healthy, and thought that maybe I should have just waited to see if his per cleared up before setting the appointment.  So, I asked for help.  Could the vet be missing something? Could there be a suggestion? After the initial battery of tests, what could be the next step?  A very helpful vet student recommended me some questions and gave me some kind words. The following day after talking to my vet my puppy (12 years old, will forever be my puppy, may he rest in peace), was scheduled for an ultrasound.   The vet would have recommended the ultrasound, imo. But that vet student gave me a peace of mind during that awful day. And we followed up with each other in PMs afterwards.  At the rate I was going, I don't think I could have process all my thoughts that night.  Unfortunately, for me, my dog's story has a sad ending. But we were as prepared as we could for what became a very sudden decline.   I don't view this sub as a replacement for my vet. That's kinda silly. Why would I trust someone I do not know with the health of my pets? But they can provide me with support.  Then again, I'm the kind of person who went to the vet because our cat had a whisker with a split end....","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29708.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r92m4","c_root_id_B":"e2rqa9t","created_at_utc_A":1532132329,"created_at_utc_B":1532154012,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I've noticed that yes sometimes when people come not asking for a diagnosis, rather some insight, they do get told to go to the vet, but I feel like the majority of the time I go by \"if I have to ask, I should go\". Now if you are just asking for some insight and just get \"go to the vet\" it sucks, I agree.","human_ref_B":"I would like to share my experience.  My dog got really sick back in April. The vet told us that it was an urine infection but after a few days of antibiotics my dogs pee wasn't clearing up. I had already set up an appointment to have a call with my vet but was at a loss on what I should ask. I just wanted my puppy to be healthy, and thought that maybe I should have just waited to see if his per cleared up before setting the appointment.  So, I asked for help.  Could the vet be missing something? Could there be a suggestion? After the initial battery of tests, what could be the next step?  A very helpful vet student recommended me some questions and gave me some kind words. The following day after talking to my vet my puppy (12 years old, will forever be my puppy, may he rest in peace), was scheduled for an ultrasound.   The vet would have recommended the ultrasound, imo. But that vet student gave me a peace of mind during that awful day. And we followed up with each other in PMs afterwards.  At the rate I was going, I don't think I could have process all my thoughts that night.  Unfortunately, for me, my dog's story has a sad ending. But we were as prepared as we could for what became a very sudden decline.   I don't view this sub as a replacement for my vet. That's kinda silly. Why would I trust someone I do not know with the health of my pets? But they can provide me with support.  Then again, I'm the kind of person who went to the vet because our cat had a whisker with a split end....","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21683.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2rqa9t","c_root_id_B":"e2ra7t6","created_at_utc_A":1532154012,"created_at_utc_B":1532133548,"score_A":14,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I would like to share my experience.  My dog got really sick back in April. The vet told us that it was an urine infection but after a few days of antibiotics my dogs pee wasn't clearing up. I had already set up an appointment to have a call with my vet but was at a loss on what I should ask. I just wanted my puppy to be healthy, and thought that maybe I should have just waited to see if his per cleared up before setting the appointment.  So, I asked for help.  Could the vet be missing something? Could there be a suggestion? After the initial battery of tests, what could be the next step?  A very helpful vet student recommended me some questions and gave me some kind words. The following day after talking to my vet my puppy (12 years old, will forever be my puppy, may he rest in peace), was scheduled for an ultrasound.   The vet would have recommended the ultrasound, imo. But that vet student gave me a peace of mind during that awful day. And we followed up with each other in PMs afterwards.  At the rate I was going, I don't think I could have process all my thoughts that night.  Unfortunately, for me, my dog's story has a sad ending. But we were as prepared as we could for what became a very sudden decline.   I don't view this sub as a replacement for my vet. That's kinda silly. Why would I trust someone I do not know with the health of my pets? But they can provide me with support.  Then again, I'm the kind of person who went to the vet because our cat had a whisker with a split end....","human_ref_B":"I've actually learned alot about animals and dogs from this sub. I have a solid grasp on canine nutrition, veterinary specialities, and general health matters now. Overall finding this sub was really beneficial.   I will admit though, there is this cult-like mentality that I've noticed where people get downvoted and harassed unnecessarily. That is something imo that needs to change.   With that being said, I am overall satisfied that I've found this sub. The knowledge I've gained is undeniable and very useful.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20464.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2rqa9t","c_root_id_B":"e2rnxyt","created_at_utc_A":1532154012,"created_at_utc_B":1532150229,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I would like to share my experience.  My dog got really sick back in April. The vet told us that it was an urine infection but after a few days of antibiotics my dogs pee wasn't clearing up. I had already set up an appointment to have a call with my vet but was at a loss on what I should ask. I just wanted my puppy to be healthy, and thought that maybe I should have just waited to see if his per cleared up before setting the appointment.  So, I asked for help.  Could the vet be missing something? Could there be a suggestion? After the initial battery of tests, what could be the next step?  A very helpful vet student recommended me some questions and gave me some kind words. The following day after talking to my vet my puppy (12 years old, will forever be my puppy, may he rest in peace), was scheduled for an ultrasound.   The vet would have recommended the ultrasound, imo. But that vet student gave me a peace of mind during that awful day. And we followed up with each other in PMs afterwards.  At the rate I was going, I don't think I could have process all my thoughts that night.  Unfortunately, for me, my dog's story has a sad ending. But we were as prepared as we could for what became a very sudden decline.   I don't view this sub as a replacement for my vet. That's kinda silly. Why would I trust someone I do not know with the health of my pets? But they can provide me with support.  Then again, I'm the kind of person who went to the vet because our cat had a whisker with a split end....","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a vet tech, but too lazy to get flair. I have been responding to threads on the regular for a couple years now. This is all done in my free time. It gets really tiresome answering the same questions over and over, and it\u2019s especially frustrating when someone has an obviously urgent situation and they don\u2019t\/can\u2019t go to the vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3783.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2rqa9t","c_root_id_B":"e2r3q3s","created_at_utc_A":1532154012,"created_at_utc_B":1532126874,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I would like to share my experience.  My dog got really sick back in April. The vet told us that it was an urine infection but after a few days of antibiotics my dogs pee wasn't clearing up. I had already set up an appointment to have a call with my vet but was at a loss on what I should ask. I just wanted my puppy to be healthy, and thought that maybe I should have just waited to see if his per cleared up before setting the appointment.  So, I asked for help.  Could the vet be missing something? Could there be a suggestion? After the initial battery of tests, what could be the next step?  A very helpful vet student recommended me some questions and gave me some kind words. The following day after talking to my vet my puppy (12 years old, will forever be my puppy, may he rest in peace), was scheduled for an ultrasound.   The vet would have recommended the ultrasound, imo. But that vet student gave me a peace of mind during that awful day. And we followed up with each other in PMs afterwards.  At the rate I was going, I don't think I could have process all my thoughts that night.  Unfortunately, for me, my dog's story has a sad ending. But we were as prepared as we could for what became a very sudden decline.   I don't view this sub as a replacement for my vet. That's kinda silly. Why would I trust someone I do not know with the health of my pets? But they can provide me with support.  Then again, I'm the kind of person who went to the vet because our cat had a whisker with a split end....","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27138.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r134e","c_root_id_B":"e2r8owd","created_at_utc_A":1532124304,"created_at_utc_B":1532131927,"score_A":10,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I don't mind the \"go to a vet\" answers at all. Sometimes that's exactly what needs to happen. Some people need a push. Especially when is a question of is this an emergency or can it wait until Monday morning. People who come here are expecting honest answers from professionals, well sometimes that means you'll get an answer that your pet needs an exam\/testing done. The problem is when people try to use this sub for a way to avoid the trip to the vet when it's necessary.","human_ref_B":"I've posted here a few times when I wasn't sure if my pet needed (a) to be seen by an emergency vet, (b) to be seen as soon as possible by their regular vet, or (c) to be watched for additional symptoms.   Also, I got some incredibly helpful advice about how to make decisions on end of life care for an elderly cat.   On another occasion, I asked if it was necessary to be concerned about the wellbeing of my neighbor's horse, because I don't own horses and wasn't sure if a particular situation was problematic enough to call animal control & risk a neighborhood feud.   The vets here are incredibly helpful and I appreciate all the time they've taken to answer my various questions. I deal with a lot of anxiety, and sometimes I can find resources\/facts here that help me avoid panicking over situations that are not as bad as they seem.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7623.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r3q3s","c_root_id_B":"e2r8owd","created_at_utc_A":1532126874,"created_at_utc_B":1532131927,"score_A":7,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","human_ref_B":"I've posted here a few times when I wasn't sure if my pet needed (a) to be seen by an emergency vet, (b) to be seen as soon as possible by their regular vet, or (c) to be watched for additional symptoms.   Also, I got some incredibly helpful advice about how to make decisions on end of life care for an elderly cat.   On another occasion, I asked if it was necessary to be concerned about the wellbeing of my neighbor's horse, because I don't own horses and wasn't sure if a particular situation was problematic enough to call animal control & risk a neighborhood feud.   The vets here are incredibly helpful and I appreciate all the time they've taken to answer my various questions. I deal with a lot of anxiety, and sometimes I can find resources\/facts here that help me avoid panicking over situations that are not as bad as they seem.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5053.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2r92m4","c_root_id_B":"e2r3q3s","created_at_utc_A":1532132329,"created_at_utc_B":1532126874,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I've noticed that yes sometimes when people come not asking for a diagnosis, rather some insight, they do get told to go to the vet, but I feel like the majority of the time I go by \"if I have to ask, I should go\". Now if you are just asking for some insight and just get \"go to the vet\" it sucks, I agree.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5455.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2ra7t6","c_root_id_B":"e2r3q3s","created_at_utc_A":1532133548,"created_at_utc_B":1532126874,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I've actually learned alot about animals and dogs from this sub. I have a solid grasp on canine nutrition, veterinary specialities, and general health matters now. Overall finding this sub was really beneficial.   I will admit though, there is this cult-like mentality that I've noticed where people get downvoted and harassed unnecessarily. That is something imo that needs to change.   With that being said, I am overall satisfied that I've found this sub. The knowledge I've gained is undeniable and very useful.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6674.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"90ia7z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is the actual point of this subreddit? What is the objective? All I\u2019ve seen is one of three things:  1) People give vet advice or anecdotal advice and it gets removed (which I\u2019m not necessarily saying their advice is correct) 2) People respond with \u201cGo to a vet\u201d 3) No one responds  Do we really need a subreddit to tell people to go to a vet? Why does this subreddit exist?  Or could someone just give an example of what an \u201cappropriate\u201d question is for this sub that would actually warrant a response other than go see a vet?","c_root_id_A":"e2rnxyt","c_root_id_B":"e2r3q3s","created_at_utc_A":1532150229,"created_at_utc_B":1532126874,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m a vet tech, but too lazy to get flair. I have been responding to threads on the regular for a couple years now. This is all done in my free time. It gets really tiresome answering the same questions over and over, and it\u2019s especially frustrating when someone has an obviously urgent situation and they don\u2019t\/can\u2019t go to the vet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve actually found this sub really useful, for things like when my dog jumped out of the car when he was still belted in, having a big fall etc - things to watch out for afterwards. I\u2019d never expect a diagnosis, but it\u2019s been helpful to have people in the veterinary field give helpful tips on things that *could* happen and watch out for them. I\u2019ve also called our dog\u2019s vet for things I was worried about but not sure if it\u2019s a big deal (dog got bitten by a wasp on his lip). I also wouldn\u2019t hesitate to take my dog to the vet is something was seriously wrong.  But the sub is useful for people who aren\u2019t sure whether \u2018watch and wait\u2019 or \u2018go straight to the vet\u2019 is the right call.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23355.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"xg74tx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.75,"history":"My cat has a broken tail and I can't afford it Any suggestions? Its getting really awful i can see her bone but i cant do anything about it every time I touch her tail she meows, She has some months (sorry for my bad English)","c_root_id_A":"ioqonpd","c_root_id_B":"ioqulc4","created_at_utc_A":1663376866,"created_at_utc_B":1663379752,"score_A":43,"score_B":126,"human_ref_A":"You shouldn\u2019t have a pet if you can\u2019t afford to properly care for it.   I understand that you are in a difficult situation but you need to surrender the pet or take it to a not for profit organisation that can take proper care for it.","human_ref_B":"You can see the bone?? This is INCREDIBLY painful and you, as the person who has chosen to take her in and \u201ccare\u201d for her, are absolutely responsible for taking her to the vet.  Pick up extra shifts. Get a second job. Do what you have to do to care for this poor creature.  Can\u2019t do any of that? Surrender her ASAP to a shelter or vet office.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2886.0,"score_ratio":2.9302325581}
{"post_id":"xg74tx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.75,"history":"My cat has a broken tail and I can't afford it Any suggestions? Its getting really awful i can see her bone but i cant do anything about it every time I touch her tail she meows, She has some months (sorry for my bad English)","c_root_id_A":"ioqyxem","c_root_id_B":"ioqonpd","created_at_utc_A":1663381898,"created_at_utc_B":1663376866,"score_A":70,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"I know you are trying your best. Call a shelter and ask them if they offer vet services for free \/ low cost. Honestly the cat only needs the tail amputated and can live very happily with it fixed. I don\u2019t recommend letting this continue, because the infection could kill the cat. So better to find someone who can help.","human_ref_B":"You shouldn\u2019t have a pet if you can\u2019t afford to properly care for it.   I understand that you are in a difficult situation but you need to surrender the pet or take it to a not for profit organisation that can take proper care for it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5032.0,"score_ratio":1.6279069767}
{"post_id":"xg74tx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.75,"history":"My cat has a broken tail and I can't afford it Any suggestions? Its getting really awful i can see her bone but i cant do anything about it every time I touch her tail she meows, She has some months (sorry for my bad English)","c_root_id_A":"ior72om","c_root_id_B":"ior9hex","created_at_utc_A":1663386213,"created_at_utc_B":1663387591,"score_A":14,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Salvation Army in my town works with no-cost animal clinics. They\u2019re an international organization. If you can prove you\u2019ve got financial hardship. Otherwise, you can surrender your cat to the veterinarian. I\u2019m sorry.","human_ref_B":"Surrender the pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1378.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"xg74tx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.75,"history":"My cat has a broken tail and I can't afford it Any suggestions? Its getting really awful i can see her bone but i cant do anything about it every time I touch her tail she meows, She has some months (sorry for my bad English)","c_root_id_A":"iorbkak","c_root_id_B":"ior72om","created_at_utc_A":1663388821,"created_at_utc_B":1663386213,"score_A":17,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Can you get the cat to a vet? I realize you can\u2019t afford it but are you close to a vet with qualifications to deal with with this?","human_ref_B":"Salvation Army in my town works with no-cost animal clinics. They\u2019re an international organization. If you can prove you\u2019ve got financial hardship. Otherwise, you can surrender your cat to the veterinarian. I\u2019m sorry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2608.0,"score_ratio":1.2142857143}
{"post_id":"nmm6ip","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My chinchilla went into heat stroke and there isn\u2019t a vet near me My chinchilla went into heat stroke this afternoon, her vet is closed, and none of the emergencies here take exotic animals. It\u2019s Memorial Day weekend too. She\u2019s laying on her side, not moving, arching her back, twitching and sprawling out. If I don\u2019t move her she won\u2019t move at all. I\u2019ve been doing what google says - keep her ears damp, give her small amounts of salt water, keeping her next to a fan, taking her on and off of an ice pack that\u2019s wrapped in a towel. And she hasn\u2019t gotten better over the past few hours. Any extra advice would be great. I feel terrible for her.","c_root_id_A":"gzpxl73","c_root_id_B":"gzpuwty","created_at_utc_A":1622174041,"created_at_utc_B":1622172554,"score_A":58,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Drive her to the nearest emergency vet. Do not call first, just show up. Ask that they triage and stabilize her.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not trying to be a jerk, but if she hasn\u2019t been seen by a vet you don\u2019t know for sure that it\u2019s heat stroke.  Do you know her temperature?  As another poster said, call exotics vets and perhaps they can offer some advice over the phone.  Really you want to get to an emergency clinic ASAP.  Good luck and I\u2019m sorry this is happening.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1487.0,"score_ratio":1.8709677419}
{"post_id":"zqysnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Accidentally kicked dog in sleep So my dog normally sleeps with me and has been for the last 10 years it seems, but tonight I might have accidentally kicked him while sleeping and I feel terrible about it I\u2019ve been crying about it all day. Hes eating drinking , pooping and peeing fine but he\u2019s walking funny and slowly. And everytime you carry him to place him on the bed or couch he whimpers or cries . What should I do? Should I take time to the emergency vet or wait a few days to see if he naturally heals? He\u2019s not limping, but his back is arched and he\u2019s walking slowly as if his entire body hurts. I touched his chest and every part of his body , everything seems fine and he doesn\u2019t cry to the touch but he is still occasionally whimpering and grunting and crying . What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"j11xer2","c_root_id_B":"j122upm","created_at_utc_A":1671587342,"created_at_utc_B":1671589857,"score_A":6,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Hi, do you live in the states?","human_ref_B":"Maybe you didn\u2019t kick him. Maybe he\u2019s sick or hurt. Take him to the vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2515.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"zqysnc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Accidentally kicked dog in sleep So my dog normally sleeps with me and has been for the last 10 years it seems, but tonight I might have accidentally kicked him while sleeping and I feel terrible about it I\u2019ve been crying about it all day. Hes eating drinking , pooping and peeing fine but he\u2019s walking funny and slowly. And everytime you carry him to place him on the bed or couch he whimpers or cries . What should I do? Should I take time to the emergency vet or wait a few days to see if he naturally heals? He\u2019s not limping, but his back is arched and he\u2019s walking slowly as if his entire body hurts. I touched his chest and every part of his body , everything seems fine and he doesn\u2019t cry to the touch but he is still occasionally whimpering and grunting and crying . What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"j133qed","c_root_id_B":"j12d5eu","created_at_utc_A":1671612620,"created_at_utc_B":1671594879,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Vet is the move. Dogs frequently hid or mitigate pain to the point vet's sometimes find healed broken bones on dogs that owners had from a puppy and it never showed a sign of being hurt. Injury can be caused from anything, falling of a sofa, tumbling, landing on a foot funny, jumping on smooth floors, all of that can hurt them, dogs aren't any more sturdy than any other animal. So even if you did kick your dog, don't blame yourself for it. heck i elbowed my husband in the face in my sleep once. that's just life.  But if a dog is showing signs of distress it's always the time to take them to the vet. an emergency vet may not be necessary but as soon as you are able is smart, if it's spinal related depending on the issue the wrong movement could cause major damage. and if nothing else, your dog deserves to not have to suffer while it recovers from a sprain, strain or pulled muscle anymore than you should.   Plus with advanced age comes poor healing, an injury that might not slow them down as a pup could cause arthritis or other painful life altering issues if not properly cared for during healing. There's plenty of groups that can help and you can get an estimate from vets along with other aid if you hunt around and money is an issue.   I hope your pup is okay, dry your tears. you aren't at fault for what you do in your sleep even if you did kick your pup, what matters now is making sure he isn't hurt and mitigating any pain he might be in.","human_ref_B":"There are some non-profit organizations or local organizations that can\/ will help a portion of vet bills. A internet search or 2 might find something local that you can fill out an application and can help with a portion. We had a local one in the mid west in the next town over from me was willing to pay a few hundred towards the bill. Worth a shot!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17741.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wjd1ta","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Need help, questioning the way a cell mast was removed by a vet. Our dog had a cell mast removal on Thursday. We were shocked to see the vet add a ton of additional cuts around the main incision. The wounds failed to scab over as they said they would and looking today she has started bleeding again. The vet plans on seeing her today at noon, but I am not sure if the procedure was properly done. The photo with the black in the car backseat was day of surgery. The other photo with the brown carpet background is today. https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Vl8zbNY","c_root_id_A":"ijgvdvz","c_root_id_B":"ijgvra6","created_at_utc_A":1659980483,"created_at_utc_B":1659980620,"score_A":18,"score_B":269,"human_ref_A":"Can someone explain what the additional incisions are for??","human_ref_B":"These are called relaxing incisions and are used when there is a large wound and not enough tissue to cover it easily. Based on the size of the main incision and the amount of tissue that has to be removed to try to safely get the entire tumor, it is likely that closing the main surgical site caused significant tension on the closing stitches. If the surgeon doesn't relieve this tension somehow, the likelihood that the main incision will reopen and cause significant complications is much higher. Relaxing incisions, while they look shocking, are a way to relieve this tension. They heal relatively quickly and are intended to keep the main incision from reopening. You can tell how much tension is on the main site because all of the relaxing incisions would be small, straight lines initially, but the tension has pulled them open into much wider looking wounds.   That being said, it is difficult to tell from your photos if the center, main portion of this incision is just dirty or if the tissue is truly that dark. It is absolutely the right thing to do to have her seen today by the surgeons because that main incision looks very concerning.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":137.0,"score_ratio":14.9444444444}
{"post_id":"wjd1ta","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Need help, questioning the way a cell mast was removed by a vet. Our dog had a cell mast removal on Thursday. We were shocked to see the vet add a ton of additional cuts around the main incision. The wounds failed to scab over as they said they would and looking today she has started bleeding again. The vet plans on seeing her today at noon, but I am not sure if the procedure was properly done. The photo with the black in the car backseat was day of surgery. The other photo with the brown carpet background is today. https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Vl8zbNY","c_root_id_A":"ijh5dny","c_root_id_B":"ijgvdvz","created_at_utc_A":1659984246,"created_at_utc_B":1659980483,"score_A":51,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Oh boy. Now that my whole body itches...    Poor pupper.      I've had the same vet for 26 years,  and he says \"the only doctor that's afraid of a second opinion is a bad one\"","human_ref_B":"Can someone explain what the additional incisions are for??","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3763.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"inch6s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What can I (a minor) do to help my cat who seems to have serious anxiety issues when my father refuses to acknowledge the problem? I'm very sorry if this is the wrong subreddit, but I'm unfamiliar with veterinary reddit. I'm also unsure if the scope of this sub covers pet psychiatry, or potentially legal advice. If there is a better community to be asking then please inform me.  Our rescue kitten came from the side of the road and was about a couple weeks old when she was rescued by the woman we got her from. We've had her for three years now. She has many behaviors that I always thought were a little off, that my dad just treats as super cute and quirky. For example, she will avoid touch despite having lived with us for almost her entire life. She turns aggressive on a dime, which I know is pretty normal for a cat in general but it seems to generally be triggered by human speech. She stopped using the litterbox a couple years ago and instead insists on doing her business on the carpet, and \"burying\" it as though there's sand there. She will pace and meow very loudly for a while at unpredictable intervals. She very frequently keeps her head low and stares around as though she's anticipating something to jump out at her.  I've done some internet research (which I recognize isn't the most valuable thing on Earth) and I guess my hunch was correct that she experiences a ton of anxiety, possibly from trauma. We don't know what her life looked like before she was rescued.   My mother and I (my parents are separated and she has no legal claim on the cat) have been trying to convince my dad to have her looked at. He refuses. He thinks this behavior isn't a big deal and that she's just \"weird\".   She's an indoor cat, and another indoor cat of ours passed away about a year ago. I don't recall exactly when she started behaving this way, so I don't know if there's a likely correlation, but I should provide that information just in case.  How can I get her the help that she deserves despite being a minor and not legally owning her? I guess that's what I'm trying to ask and because this is probably the wrong subreddit, if you have somewhere to redirect me then please let me know.   Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"g484nxz","c_root_id_B":"g48iej3","created_at_utc_A":1599395444,"created_at_utc_B":1599404551,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Your cat probably has a pain issue going on. Contact a vet or rescue for help ASAP.","human_ref_B":"The Ohio State University vet school has put together a great website to help troubleshoot some of these issues. Many recommendations are inexpensive or free and don't require a visit to the vet (although if you can get her there she would benefit!) The website is https:\/\/indoorpet.osu.edu\/cats","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9107.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"eermbx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I just adopted a 40 days old dog and gave him anti-roundworms pill and he pooped roundworms big like spagetti. Is he going to be ok and how can i help him? Species: unknown Age: 40 days Sex: female","c_root_id_A":"fbwrlfs","c_root_id_B":"fbwrxmj","created_at_utc_A":1577157585,"created_at_utc_B":1577157837,"score_A":19,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but mother dogs pass on worms to their young, so it's not unusual for them to be born with a gut load of worms.  The medicine is doing its job, just make sure to repeat it according to instructions.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, maternity foster here. This is normal, the deworming medication weakens\/kills the worms and the puppy then expels them. I usually get to see it multiplied from 8-12 puppy butts at a time.   Reasons to be concerned; if the puppy starts acting lethargic or vomiting, contact a vet ASAP.  Also please talk to your vet about the pups vaccination schedule. Since he is already separated from momma, you are likely due to start vaccinations immediately. The vaccination schedule may vary based on where you live as it will be based on how common certain diseases are.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":252.0,"score_ratio":3.2631578947}
{"post_id":"qed2qf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog died while having surgery, I feel like the vets weren't careful enough. Can i please get an opinion? She had pyometra and the first vet we brought her to, gave her two injections to empty her uterus and told us we could wait, we just had to do it before her next heat. We waited a month and brought her to another vet to have her surgery. He didn't check her heartbeat and blood before giving her the anesthesia. She didn't wake up and died. He told us we had waited too long. I can give more details if I haven't been clear enough...","c_root_id_A":"hhu4sc5","c_root_id_B":"hhtgx5w","created_at_utc_A":1635060050,"created_at_utc_B":1635044400,"score_A":28,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Everyone above have great comments. Another important thing is to be sure to spay a female pet. No uterus, no pyo, no mammary cancer.","human_ref_B":"Deaths during surgery happen. There are always risks. I don\u2019t know the %\u2019s in animals. But in humans we all sign forms acknowledging the risks. I\u2019m sorry for your loss. Unexpected deaths are always a shock to our hearts. They can do an autopsy to pinpoint cause of death.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15650.0,"score_ratio":3.1111111111}
{"post_id":"qed2qf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog died while having surgery, I feel like the vets weren't careful enough. Can i please get an opinion? She had pyometra and the first vet we brought her to, gave her two injections to empty her uterus and told us we could wait, we just had to do it before her next heat. We waited a month and brought her to another vet to have her surgery. He didn't check her heartbeat and blood before giving her the anesthesia. She didn't wake up and died. He told us we had waited too long. I can give more details if I haven't been clear enough...","c_root_id_A":"hhtmbxr","c_root_id_B":"hhtgx5w","created_at_utc_A":1635047304,"created_at_utc_B":1635044400,"score_A":29,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"You never let a sun set on a pyometra. It\u2019s generally considered an emergency with surgery warranted immediately.  Your dog had a severe uterine infection. The vet removed the source (uterus) but sometimes the infection is too advanced. Your dog died from infection, not your vet.","human_ref_B":"Deaths during surgery happen. There are always risks. I don\u2019t know the %\u2019s in animals. But in humans we all sign forms acknowledging the risks. I\u2019m sorry for your loss. Unexpected deaths are always a shock to our hearts. They can do an autopsy to pinpoint cause of death.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2904.0,"score_ratio":3.2222222222}
{"post_id":"gpwyvx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My dog just snuck extra spicy buffalo chicken dip off a plate. It also has a little bit of onion and celery. Should I be freaking out?","c_root_id_A":"frpunna","c_root_id_B":"frpbm7b","created_at_utc_A":1590363857,"created_at_utc_B":1590353747,"score_A":24,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"What other people said. Watch for vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, or significant change in water consumption (although their drinking might be different in the next few hours just because of the spice in the dip). If any of these occur, call your vet.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re nervous about it the best thing to do is call a vet. :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10110.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"f296zv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do pets suffer from childhood trauma from bad parenting? It's well known that bad human parenting can \"fuck up\" a human child. Does it also applies to pets?  For example: can a dog mom do a bad job at parenting and as a result the puppies will get childhood trauma or something similar?","c_root_id_A":"fhbrhx7","c_root_id_B":"fhbdr22","created_at_utc_A":1581448333,"created_at_utc_B":1581440192,"score_A":22,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Yes. There have been studies published where puppies born to a fearful or aggressive mother grew up to be fearful and have anxiety and sometimes aggression issues as well. They actually did a study where they had both happy and easy going mother dogs and fearful mother dogs. They switched the puppies of the moms for a few weeks. What they determined was that puppies born to fearful moms remain fearful (as a lot of this stress and anxiety can absolutely affect them in the womb as well) even when raised by happy moms. They also found that the pups born to happy moms that were happy and easy going also became fearful while being raised with the fearful mom. This is why its stressed so much to only purchase pups from responsible breeders and meet the parents etc. knowing the parents personalities can help better predict the personalities of the pups (though at the end of the day you can still get some odd balls here and there \ud83d\ude02).","human_ref_B":"Just to answer the question in terms of dogs prior to being adopted out as puppies (ie. Trauma from their biological mother, etc) the answer is kind of, yes. There are surveys\/studies that support the idea that pups who are malnourished prior to 8 weeks of age and\/or are separated from their mom prior to 8 weeks have a greater risk of behavioural issues, specifically separation anxiety and reactivity, and can have more issues with learning bite inhibition and how to play\/interact politely with other dogs. (I can go and find the sources for this if requested, I can't remember the books off the top of my head but they are fairly popular books in the dog training world) \/\/However, as far as I can tell, it doesn't seem that the mom dog's behaviour toward the pups has as much as an impact (unlike her behaviour in general, which can be passed on genetically).\/\/   Edit: the last part of what I said has been partially disproven by someone else - anxious mom dogs can pass on their behaviour by genes and by teaching it to otherwise happy pups.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8141.0,"score_ratio":1.0476190476}
{"post_id":"f296zv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do pets suffer from childhood trauma from bad parenting? It's well known that bad human parenting can \"fuck up\" a human child. Does it also applies to pets?  For example: can a dog mom do a bad job at parenting and as a result the puppies will get childhood trauma or something similar?","c_root_id_A":"fhbrhx7","c_root_id_B":"fhbfkjs","created_at_utc_A":1581448333,"created_at_utc_B":1581441271,"score_A":22,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Yes. There have been studies published where puppies born to a fearful or aggressive mother grew up to be fearful and have anxiety and sometimes aggression issues as well. They actually did a study where they had both happy and easy going mother dogs and fearful mother dogs. They switched the puppies of the moms for a few weeks. What they determined was that puppies born to fearful moms remain fearful (as a lot of this stress and anxiety can absolutely affect them in the womb as well) even when raised by happy moms. They also found that the pups born to happy moms that were happy and easy going also became fearful while being raised with the fearful mom. This is why its stressed so much to only purchase pups from responsible breeders and meet the parents etc. knowing the parents personalities can help better predict the personalities of the pups (though at the end of the day you can still get some odd balls here and there \ud83d\ude02).","human_ref_B":"NTAV, but in training to be a rehabber for companion parrots. I haven\u2019t been able to see it in dogs, but it can be present in captive companion parrots. The parent birds sometimes mutilate their offspring. If it\u2019s done within the first 2weeks-month of hatching the baby bird is just left with a deformity (usually minor but some cases have been more extreme) but after it\u2019s about a month or so (depending on species and the individual birds brain itself)it starts to develop a better memory or something. those birds will usually become fearful or aggressive to other birds or specific types of birds later on, such as their own species, the specific color mutations it\u2019s parents had, or a totally different species that caused a traumatic event like chewing off a toe, (which is one of the most common forms of parental mutilation as well as other birds bullying) sometimes even 20 years later.  Edit; fixed the acronym typo.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7062.0,"score_ratio":1.6923076923}
{"post_id":"f296zv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do pets suffer from childhood trauma from bad parenting? It's well known that bad human parenting can \"fuck up\" a human child. Does it also applies to pets?  For example: can a dog mom do a bad job at parenting and as a result the puppies will get childhood trauma or something similar?","c_root_id_A":"fhbh5hl","c_root_id_B":"fhbrhx7","created_at_utc_A":1581442196,"created_at_utc_B":1581448333,"score_A":7,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Dog obedience trainer with five years experience here- in short, yes. If an animal was rejected by its mother (which isn\u2019t uncommon) and it results in the animal needing to be \u201cnursed\u201d by a human, they could sustain any amount of trauma. Same goes for an animal who may be older or a trauma ocurres later in life. It\u2019s hard to say what behaviors the animal would acquire due to the simple fact that every animal has its own personality. What trauma happens to one animal will result in completely different behavior(s) if the same trauma happened to another animal. All in all, animals do* have the cognitive and emotional abilities to sustain a trauma and behavioral consequences will result from them.","human_ref_B":"Yes. There have been studies published where puppies born to a fearful or aggressive mother grew up to be fearful and have anxiety and sometimes aggression issues as well. They actually did a study where they had both happy and easy going mother dogs and fearful mother dogs. They switched the puppies of the moms for a few weeks. What they determined was that puppies born to fearful moms remain fearful (as a lot of this stress and anxiety can absolutely affect them in the womb as well) even when raised by happy moms. They also found that the pups born to happy moms that were happy and easy going also became fearful while being raised with the fearful mom. This is why its stressed so much to only purchase pups from responsible breeders and meet the parents etc. knowing the parents personalities can help better predict the personalities of the pups (though at the end of the day you can still get some odd balls here and there \ud83d\ude02).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6137.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"f296zv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do pets suffer from childhood trauma from bad parenting? It's well known that bad human parenting can \"fuck up\" a human child. Does it also applies to pets?  For example: can a dog mom do a bad job at parenting and as a result the puppies will get childhood trauma or something similar?","c_root_id_A":"fhbrhx7","c_root_id_B":"fhbhlen","created_at_utc_A":1581448333,"created_at_utc_B":1581442454,"score_A":22,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes. There have been studies published where puppies born to a fearful or aggressive mother grew up to be fearful and have anxiety and sometimes aggression issues as well. They actually did a study where they had both happy and easy going mother dogs and fearful mother dogs. They switched the puppies of the moms for a few weeks. What they determined was that puppies born to fearful moms remain fearful (as a lot of this stress and anxiety can absolutely affect them in the womb as well) even when raised by happy moms. They also found that the pups born to happy moms that were happy and easy going also became fearful while being raised with the fearful mom. This is why its stressed so much to only purchase pups from responsible breeders and meet the parents etc. knowing the parents personalities can help better predict the personalities of the pups (though at the end of the day you can still get some odd balls here and there \ud83d\ude02).","human_ref_B":"This may get deleted as anecdotal, but definitely. In my experience, dogs that had to be bottle fed and hand raised are some of the worst adjusted and worst behaved dogs I\u2019ve had to work with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5879.0,"score_ratio":4.4}
{"post_id":"f296zv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do pets suffer from childhood trauma from bad parenting? It's well known that bad human parenting can \"fuck up\" a human child. Does it also applies to pets?  For example: can a dog mom do a bad job at parenting and as a result the puppies will get childhood trauma or something similar?","c_root_id_A":"fhbk2ha","c_root_id_B":"fhbrhx7","created_at_utc_A":1581443880,"created_at_utc_B":1581448333,"score_A":5,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"You mention dogs but what about cats?","human_ref_B":"Yes. There have been studies published where puppies born to a fearful or aggressive mother grew up to be fearful and have anxiety and sometimes aggression issues as well. They actually did a study where they had both happy and easy going mother dogs and fearful mother dogs. They switched the puppies of the moms for a few weeks. What they determined was that puppies born to fearful moms remain fearful (as a lot of this stress and anxiety can absolutely affect them in the womb as well) even when raised by happy moms. They also found that the pups born to happy moms that were happy and easy going also became fearful while being raised with the fearful mom. This is why its stressed so much to only purchase pups from responsible breeders and meet the parents etc. knowing the parents personalities can help better predict the personalities of the pups (though at the end of the day you can still get some odd balls here and there \ud83d\ude02).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4453.0,"score_ratio":4.4}
{"post_id":"cq5qo2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"What are highly vocal cats \"saying\" that quieter cats are not? It might seem a silly question, but I've been wondering about it.  My own cat is highly vocal but I know he is well and happy, he just talks a lot.  I also know that meows in adult cats are typically reserved for humans.  But what are these chatty cats saying?  What are all these chirps, yodels, etc., that I don't hear from other cats?  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"ewuz3zz","c_root_id_B":"ewv2ktn","created_at_utc_A":1565795023,"created_at_utc_B":1565797255,"score_A":3,"score_B":70,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m curious as well because my cat is chattiest cat I\u2019ve ever met","human_ref_B":"The reality is we don't know. I can't provide any other answer that the automoderator won't delete. This sub is not really for discussion because of the strict rules.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2232.0,"score_ratio":23.3333333333}
{"post_id":"cq5qo2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"What are highly vocal cats \"saying\" that quieter cats are not? It might seem a silly question, but I've been wondering about it.  My own cat is highly vocal but I know he is well and happy, he just talks a lot.  I also know that meows in adult cats are typically reserved for humans.  But what are these chatty cats saying?  What are all these chirps, yodels, etc., that I don't hear from other cats?  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"ewvv3pg","c_root_id_B":"ewuz3zz","created_at_utc_A":1565814588,"created_at_utc_B":1565795023,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You could try posting this on r\/askscience as well.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m curious as well because my cat is chattiest cat I\u2019ve ever met","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19565.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8c319f","c_root_id_B":"i8bdsqr","created_at_utc_A":1652372443,"created_at_utc_B":1652362328,"score_A":307,"score_B":155,"human_ref_A":"What you\u2019re talking about would be medically impossible if the cat was spayed correctly so either, 1.) you\u2019re a victim of malpractice and you should get a refund and seek care elsewhere or 2.) your cat just gave birth to the next messiah and we should be starting a new religion. I\u2019m leaning towards that first one though.","human_ref_B":"De-sexing a female cat involves removing the ovaries and uterus. Pregnancy is not possible when this procedure has been done.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10115.0,"score_ratio":1.9806451613}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8c319f","c_root_id_B":"i8bqi6d","created_at_utc_A":1652372443,"created_at_utc_B":1652367544,"score_A":307,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"What you\u2019re talking about would be medically impossible if the cat was spayed correctly so either, 1.) you\u2019re a victim of malpractice and you should get a refund and seek care elsewhere or 2.) your cat just gave birth to the next messiah and we should be starting a new religion. I\u2019m leaning towards that first one though.","human_ref_B":"It is not possible for a spayed female cat to become pregnant or give birth. You should get her evaluated by a veterinarian to make sure there are no complications after giving birth since she was supposedly spayed. That veterinarian (if it\u2019s a different one) should also know what needs to be done in regards to the other clinic and their failure to spay your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4899.0,"score_ratio":5.2931034483}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8c319f","c_root_id_B":"i8b5kr9","created_at_utc_A":1652372443,"created_at_utc_B":1652358351,"score_A":307,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"What you\u2019re talking about would be medically impossible if the cat was spayed correctly so either, 1.) you\u2019re a victim of malpractice and you should get a refund and seek care elsewhere or 2.) your cat just gave birth to the next messiah and we should be starting a new religion. I\u2019m leaning towards that first one though.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14092.0,"score_ratio":102.3333333333}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8b5kr9","c_root_id_B":"i8bdsqr","created_at_utc_A":1652358351,"created_at_utc_B":1652362328,"score_A":3,"score_B":155,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"De-sexing a female cat involves removing the ovaries and uterus. Pregnancy is not possible when this procedure has been done.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3977.0,"score_ratio":51.6666666667}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8b5kr9","c_root_id_B":"i8bqi6d","created_at_utc_A":1652358351,"created_at_utc_B":1652367544,"score_A":3,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"It is not possible for a spayed female cat to become pregnant or give birth. You should get her evaluated by a veterinarian to make sure there are no complications after giving birth since she was supposedly spayed. That veterinarian (if it\u2019s a different one) should also know what needs to be done in regards to the other clinic and their failure to spay your cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9193.0,"score_ratio":19.3333333333}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8b5kr9","c_root_id_B":"i8csapx","created_at_utc_A":1652358351,"created_at_utc_B":1652382479,"score_A":3,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"EDIT: most commenters here seem to be from the US. In Europe (speaking as a French vet) spaying commonly means only removing the ovaries  Yep it happens and it's because of 'malpractice'  Two types of \"common\" sterilization (ovarioectomie) failures:   - the ovary wasn't cut far enough, and if even a miniscule piece of the ovary stays in the body then it can fully regrow but in different places. This meams the cat can go into heat, but cannot get pregnant   - the vet simply forgot to take out both ovaries, in this case the cat can become pregnant     P. S. There are pros and cons for sterilization by removing the uterus or just the ovaries. One isn't necessarily better than another.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24128.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"unzvlb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Spayed cat just gave birth  I castrated my female cat a few months ago 2 or 3 and right about 5  minutes from now she gave birth to 1 kitten is it possible for that to  happen during castration, was I scammed? the clinic is one that usually  people from my town praise and I just called them to like get an  explanation.   What should and can do in European laws more specifically Portugal if anyone knows","c_root_id_A":"i8csapx","c_root_id_B":"i8cad4v","created_at_utc_A":1652382479,"created_at_utc_B":1652375305,"score_A":14,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"EDIT: most commenters here seem to be from the US. In Europe (speaking as a French vet) spaying commonly means only removing the ovaries  Yep it happens and it's because of 'malpractice'  Two types of \"common\" sterilization (ovarioectomie) failures:   - the ovary wasn't cut far enough, and if even a miniscule piece of the ovary stays in the body then it can fully regrow but in different places. This meams the cat can go into heat, but cannot get pregnant   - the vet simply forgot to take out both ovaries, in this case the cat can become pregnant     P. S. There are pros and cons for sterilization by removing the uterus or just the ovaries. One isn't necessarily better than another.","human_ref_B":"Are you sure she gave birth to the kitten? Did you witness it? Is it possible she found a kitten somewhere and took it home? I literally cannot think of any other possibility if she was properly neutered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7174.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyny0zg","c_root_id_B":"fyo5kxi","created_at_utc_A":1595257689,"created_at_utc_B":1595261529,"score_A":39,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"There\u2019s a lady on Etsy that makes great harnesses specifically for your kittens measurements, and they don\u2019t inhibit movement or anything. My cats have them and they are rather large (14-18 pounds) and if I were in an emergency, I could grab them by the harness and get the hell out of there. It might be worth looking into SafetyKatzEtsyShop","human_ref_B":"If you do go for it just make sure you carry your cats outside and don\u2019t let them walk out themselves, if you let them walk outside they will likely try and bolt for the front door in the future to escape","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3840.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyo21ck","c_root_id_B":"fyo5kxi","created_at_utc_A":1595259752,"created_at_utc_B":1595261529,"score_A":19,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"If you want then to pull that sled you better have them get used to it now.","human_ref_B":"If you do go for it just make sure you carry your cats outside and don\u2019t let them walk out themselves, if you let them walk outside they will likely try and bolt for the front door in the future to escape","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1777.0,"score_ratio":2.2105263158}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyo3fh7","c_root_id_B":"fyo5kxi","created_at_utc_A":1595260456,"created_at_utc_B":1595261529,"score_A":20,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"Just be aware of any plants that could be toxic or dangerous to the cats.","human_ref_B":"If you do go for it just make sure you carry your cats outside and don\u2019t let them walk out themselves, if you let them walk outside they will likely try and bolt for the front door in the future to escape","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1073.0,"score_ratio":2.1}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyo5kxi","c_root_id_B":"fynxqik","created_at_utc_A":1595261529,"created_at_utc_B":1595257533,"score_A":42,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"If you do go for it just make sure you carry your cats outside and don\u2019t let them walk out themselves, if you let them walk outside they will likely try and bolt for the front door in the future to escape","human_ref_B":"You can condition your cats to harnesses by using something like dreamies. I love enrichment of walks for my cat and she loves it too. Also made it easy to travel with her!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3996.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyny0zg","c_root_id_B":"fynxqik","created_at_utc_A":1595257689,"created_at_utc_B":1595257533,"score_A":39,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"There\u2019s a lady on Etsy that makes great harnesses specifically for your kittens measurements, and they don\u2019t inhibit movement or anything. My cats have them and they are rather large (14-18 pounds) and if I were in an emergency, I could grab them by the harness and get the hell out of there. It might be worth looking into SafetyKatzEtsyShop","human_ref_B":"You can condition your cats to harnesses by using something like dreamies. I love enrichment of walks for my cat and she loves it too. Also made it easy to travel with her!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":156.0,"score_ratio":5.5714285714}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyo21ck","c_root_id_B":"fyo3fh7","created_at_utc_A":1595259752,"created_at_utc_B":1595260456,"score_A":19,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"If you want then to pull that sled you better have them get used to it now.","human_ref_B":"Just be aware of any plants that could be toxic or dangerous to the cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":704.0,"score_ratio":1.0526315789}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fyo21ck","c_root_id_B":"fynxqik","created_at_utc_A":1595259752,"created_at_utc_B":1595257533,"score_A":19,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"If you want then to pull that sled you better have them get used to it now.","human_ref_B":"You can condition your cats to harnesses by using something like dreamies. I love enrichment of walks for my cat and she loves it too. Also made it easy to travel with her!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2219.0,"score_ratio":2.7142857143}
{"post_id":"hull9k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is getting harnesses for my cats a good idea? I have 2 kittens that are about 4 months old and starting to grow in size. They are currently indoor cats as I live in a flat, however it is quite spacious and they do have lots of room to run around, I also have a large balcony which I am considering letting them out onto at some point when I've made sure it is safe to do so.  I live in a development with a communal area which is gated off and has some grass, plants etc. and I recently saw another couple with a young kitten in a harness and they were letting it explore.  I thought it might be a good idea to get harnesses for my 2 cats and taking them down to this area so they can have a bit more freedom instead of being confined to a flat, I have a family cat at my parent's house and she has always been allowed out into the garden so I want my 2 kittens to have a similar sort of freedom.  Is this a good idea for them or are they maybe too young to be taking out of the flat? They are naturally inquisitive and aren't really fazed by much so I don't think they'd be scared or distressed if I put harnesses on them and took them for a walk.  Any advice would be great, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"fynxqik","c_root_id_B":"fyo3fh7","created_at_utc_A":1595257533,"created_at_utc_B":1595260456,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"You can condition your cats to harnesses by using something like dreamies. I love enrichment of walks for my cat and she loves it too. Also made it easy to travel with her!","human_ref_B":"Just be aware of any plants that could be toxic or dangerous to the cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2923.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"dw7fux","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"I think my baby girl is close to death and I am helpless As I am writing this tears are streaming down my face.  I've had my 12 yr old chihuahua since she was 3wks old.  She has been my constant companion best friend and has given me the most love and emotional support I have ever experienced from any being.    She was diagnosed in late August with a heart murmur, MVD, pulmunary edema and CHF.  She's been on the typical meds Lasix, Enalapril, Vetemedin, and Spiractolon since her diagnosis.    I noticed her breathing very fast and loud since  Sunday and it has continued.  However she still has an excellent appetite and loves to run and play.   Please tell me what this means and what I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"f7h7swm","c_root_id_B":"f7hq7h3","created_at_utc_A":1573734516,"created_at_utc_B":1573745523,"score_A":25,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Hi, any updates?","human_ref_B":"With cardiac patients, we have owners monitor their heart rate and effort. As these have changed for the worse (even though they are now resolved), she NEEDS a recheck with her vet or a cardiologist. Just because it is better does not mean something bad isn't going on - fluid in the lungs, for example, does not readily resolve on its own.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11007.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"dw7fux","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"I think my baby girl is close to death and I am helpless As I am writing this tears are streaming down my face.  I've had my 12 yr old chihuahua since she was 3wks old.  She has been my constant companion best friend and has given me the most love and emotional support I have ever experienced from any being.    She was diagnosed in late August with a heart murmur, MVD, pulmunary edema and CHF.  She's been on the typical meds Lasix, Enalapril, Vetemedin, and Spiractolon since her diagnosis.    I noticed her breathing very fast and loud since  Sunday and it has continued.  However she still has an excellent appetite and loves to run and play.   Please tell me what this means and what I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"f7hd2we","c_root_id_B":"f7hq7h3","created_at_utc_A":1573738121,"created_at_utc_B":1573745523,"score_A":18,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Yup get her into the vet see if they can do anything.","human_ref_B":"With cardiac patients, we have owners monitor their heart rate and effort. As these have changed for the worse (even though they are now resolved), she NEEDS a recheck with her vet or a cardiologist. Just because it is better does not mean something bad isn't going on - fluid in the lungs, for example, does not readily resolve on its own.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7402.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"dw7fux","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"I think my baby girl is close to death and I am helpless As I am writing this tears are streaming down my face.  I've had my 12 yr old chihuahua since she was 3wks old.  She has been my constant companion best friend and has given me the most love and emotional support I have ever experienced from any being.    She was diagnosed in late August with a heart murmur, MVD, pulmunary edema and CHF.  She's been on the typical meds Lasix, Enalapril, Vetemedin, and Spiractolon since her diagnosis.    I noticed her breathing very fast and loud since  Sunday and it has continued.  However she still has an excellent appetite and loves to run and play.   Please tell me what this means and what I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"f7hoxjh","c_root_id_B":"f7hq7h3","created_at_utc_A":1573744841,"created_at_utc_B":1573745523,"score_A":3,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"TAKE HER TO THE VET","human_ref_B":"With cardiac patients, we have owners monitor their heart rate and effort. As these have changed for the worse (even though they are now resolved), she NEEDS a recheck with her vet or a cardiologist. Just because it is better does not mean something bad isn't going on - fluid in the lungs, for example, does not readily resolve on its own.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":682.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"dw7fux","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"I think my baby girl is close to death and I am helpless As I am writing this tears are streaming down my face.  I've had my 12 yr old chihuahua since she was 3wks old.  She has been my constant companion best friend and has given me the most love and emotional support I have ever experienced from any being.    She was diagnosed in late August with a heart murmur, MVD, pulmunary edema and CHF.  She's been on the typical meds Lasix, Enalapril, Vetemedin, and Spiractolon since her diagnosis.    I noticed her breathing very fast and loud since  Sunday and it has continued.  However she still has an excellent appetite and loves to run and play.   Please tell me what this means and what I can do to help her.","c_root_id_A":"f7hoxjh","c_root_id_B":"f7hx6oy","created_at_utc_A":1573744841,"created_at_utc_B":1573749119,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"TAKE HER TO THE VET","human_ref_B":"Based on your description you need to take your dog to the vet today.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4278.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6kfos","c_root_id_B":"en6p20y","created_at_utc_A":1557634010,"created_at_utc_B":1557637052,"score_A":2,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"My dog doesn\u2019t seem to want me to know he can watch screens.","human_ref_B":"\"Part\" of the reason is because of the types of screens used in modern TVs and monitors. Dog's cannot see much, if anything, on an old tube tv or anything pre LCD\/Plasma screens. Something to do with the refresh rates..It may not be \"exactly\" the refresh rates, But something with modern screens helps them to actually see moving pictures on it more clearly than old screens..","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3042.0,"score_ratio":17.5}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6ssdv","c_root_id_B":"en6q4pj","created_at_utc_A":1557639791,"created_at_utc_B":1557637810,"score_A":22,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Wth, does the auto mod auto remove a percentage of all comments?","human_ref_B":"Mine does that too! It\u2019s quite amusing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1981.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6kfos","c_root_id_B":"en6ssdv","created_at_utc_A":1557634010,"created_at_utc_B":1557639791,"score_A":2,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"My dog doesn\u2019t seem to want me to know he can watch screens.","human_ref_B":"Wth, does the auto mod auto remove a percentage of all comments?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5781.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en77c9l","c_root_id_B":"en73yoi","created_at_utc_A":1557652475,"created_at_utc_B":1557649255,"score_A":18,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, which is around 50 percent faster flashing than humans can resolve, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it.  (The image on a standard television screen is updated and redrawn 60 times per second. Since this is above a human's flicker resolution ability of 55 Hz, the image appears continuous and the gradually changing images give us the illusion that it is continuous. Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it. Even so, it is true that some dogs ignore the apparent flickering of the television and seem to respond to dogs and other interesting images on the TV screen if they are interesting enough. However, changes in technology are beginning to change the number of dogs that watch TV. High-resolution digital screens are refreshed at a much higher rate so even for dogs there is less flicker, and we are getting more reports of pet dogs who are very interested when various nature shows containing images of animals moving.)  Source: https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/blog\/canine-corner\/201106\/do-dogs-understand-what-they-are-seeing-television","human_ref_B":"Also because different personalities have different interests. 3 different dogs live in the same house and have the same screen in front of them: one is positively excited whenever there are people kissing. Other one is interested in wild African savanna scenes with predators hunting, best of all- wild dog packs, and really scared of vampire movies. The third looks \"oh, it's just tv, never mind\".","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3220.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6q4pj","c_root_id_B":"en77c9l","created_at_utc_A":1557637810,"created_at_utc_B":1557652475,"score_A":9,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Mine does that too! It\u2019s quite amusing.","human_ref_B":"Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, which is around 50 percent faster flashing than humans can resolve, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it.  (The image on a standard television screen is updated and redrawn 60 times per second. Since this is above a human's flicker resolution ability of 55 Hz, the image appears continuous and the gradually changing images give us the illusion that it is continuous. Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it. Even so, it is true that some dogs ignore the apparent flickering of the television and seem to respond to dogs and other interesting images on the TV screen if they are interesting enough. However, changes in technology are beginning to change the number of dogs that watch TV. High-resolution digital screens are refreshed at a much higher rate so even for dogs there is less flicker, and we are getting more reports of pet dogs who are very interested when various nature shows containing images of animals moving.)  Source: https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/blog\/canine-corner\/201106\/do-dogs-understand-what-they-are-seeing-television","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14665.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en77c9l","c_root_id_B":"en6kfos","created_at_utc_A":1557652475,"created_at_utc_B":1557634010,"score_A":18,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, which is around 50 percent faster flashing than humans can resolve, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it.  (The image on a standard television screen is updated and redrawn 60 times per second. Since this is above a human's flicker resolution ability of 55 Hz, the image appears continuous and the gradually changing images give us the illusion that it is continuous. Because dogs can resolve flickers at 75 Hz, a TV screen probably appears to be rapidly flickering to dogs. This rapid flicker will make the images appear to be less real, and thus many dogs do not direct much attention to it. Even so, it is true that some dogs ignore the apparent flickering of the television and seem to respond to dogs and other interesting images on the TV screen if they are interesting enough. However, changes in technology are beginning to change the number of dogs that watch TV. High-resolution digital screens are refreshed at a much higher rate so even for dogs there is less flicker, and we are getting more reports of pet dogs who are very interested when various nature shows containing images of animals moving.)  Source: https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/blog\/canine-corner\/201106\/do-dogs-understand-what-they-are-seeing-television","human_ref_B":"My dog doesn\u2019t seem to want me to know he can watch screens.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18465.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en73yoi","c_root_id_B":"en6q4pj","created_at_utc_A":1557649255,"created_at_utc_B":1557637810,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Also because different personalities have different interests. 3 different dogs live in the same house and have the same screen in front of them: one is positively excited whenever there are people kissing. Other one is interested in wild African savanna scenes with predators hunting, best of all- wild dog packs, and really scared of vampire movies. The third looks \"oh, it's just tv, never mind\".","human_ref_B":"Mine does that too! It\u2019s quite amusing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11445.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6kfos","c_root_id_B":"en73yoi","created_at_utc_A":1557634010,"created_at_utc_B":1557649255,"score_A":2,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"My dog doesn\u2019t seem to want me to know he can watch screens.","human_ref_B":"Also because different personalities have different interests. 3 different dogs live in the same house and have the same screen in front of them: one is positively excited whenever there are people kissing. Other one is interested in wild African savanna scenes with predators hunting, best of all- wild dog packs, and really scared of vampire movies. The third looks \"oh, it's just tv, never mind\".","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15245.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"bnjb16","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Why do some dogs respond to or watch TV, and others don't respond at all? My dog watches TV. As in will sit on the couch with me and watch what I'm watching. She'll react to dogs cats horses cows...really any animal with four legs...even animated dogs.   But then my parents dogs don\u2019t react to TV at all. It might as well not even be on.   They\u2019re all smart dogs. Is mine a secret genius (please say yes) or is it that maybe her breed has better vision?","c_root_id_A":"en6q4pj","c_root_id_B":"en6kfos","created_at_utc_A":1557637810,"created_at_utc_B":1557634010,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Mine does that too! It\u2019s quite amusing.","human_ref_B":"My dog doesn\u2019t seem to want me to know he can watch screens.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3800.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"es5ae2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?","c_root_id_A":"ff880dk","c_root_id_B":"ff8f458","created_at_utc_A":1579668645,"created_at_utc_B":1579675779,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"First figure out how the mice are getting into your house and seal that hole or holes off. They can get through something as small as a quarter inch! (The distance between their eyes basically)   As messy as it is, flour around the perimeter of your walls will show you a trail.... perhaps keep the cat elsewhere for a day or two while you try to see where the tracks start.   Set up a baited live trap. \"Tin Cats\" they're called here. Some even have a plastic view window on the top so you can see if a mouse is in it.  They work awesome, and I've caught a dozen at a time in one. Like most traps, set it up against a wall (as mice run around the edge of things, instead of running across the center of a room).   They seem to like peanut butter or pet food as bait the most.  Which brings to the next point... keep your pet's food out of reach of the mice. It will lure them to the area, and then the baited trap won't work as well.   Also: ultrasonic mouse repellents do NOT work. Don't waste your money.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet but maybe if you can afford it go on a holiday somewhere for a couple days with your cat and call a pest control company or something","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7134.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"es5ae2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?","c_root_id_A":"ff8vsdu","c_root_id_B":"ff96sig","created_at_utc_A":1579697756,"created_at_utc_B":1579706185,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Humane traps! They're safe and everyone gets to live","human_ref_B":"The safest thing would be to get more cats, professional cats! :)   Give each neighbour at least one cat. Have a few neighbourhood cats... take care of them and they will take care of your pest problem.    **Also there are these humane mouse traps that capture the critter without killing it. Safe for everybody.**     Oh, and some eagles, snakes (non venomous) and owls!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8429.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzv177","c_root_id_B":"hlzur5g","created_at_utc_A":1637814596,"created_at_utc_B":1637814449,"score_A":272,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"Vet. That amount put me down for days. I am experienced and have a high tolerance. The vet won't give a fuck about who\/where it came from and won't call the cops. They just want to know so they can help the animal","human_ref_B":"Take her to an emergency vet immediately.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":147.0,"score_ratio":3.8309859155}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzv177","c_root_id_B":"hlzurtl","created_at_utc_A":1637814596,"created_at_utc_B":1637814459,"score_A":272,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Vet. That amount put me down for days. I am experienced and have a high tolerance. The vet won't give a fuck about who\/where it came from and won't call the cops. They just want to know so they can help the animal","human_ref_B":"You should have her assessed on an emergent basis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":137.0,"score_ratio":4.6896551724}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzv177","c_root_id_B":"hlzuklc","created_at_utc_A":1637814596,"created_at_utc_B":1637814355,"score_A":272,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Vet. That amount put me down for days. I am experienced and have a high tolerance. The vet won't give a fuck about who\/where it came from and won't call the cops. They just want to know so they can help the animal","human_ref_B":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":241.0,"score_ratio":90.6666666667}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzwc70","c_root_id_B":"hlzz2go","created_at_utc_A":1637815271,"created_at_utc_B":1637816733,"score_A":81,"score_B":198,"human_ref_A":"Anyone going to mention that chocolate is very toxic to dogs?  >How much chocolate is poisonous to a dog? The amount of toxic theobromine varies with the type of chocolate. The darker and more bitter the chocolate, the more dangerous it is to dogs. Baking chocolate and gourmet dark chocolate are highly concentrated and contain 130-450 mg of theobromine per ounce. Common milk chocolate only contains about 44-58 mg\/ounce. White chocolate rarely poses any threat of chocolate poisoning with only 0.25 mg of theobromine per ounce of chocolate. Even if the amount ingested is not a toxicity concern, dogs can still become ill from the fat and sugar in chocolate. These can cause pancreatitis in severe cases or in dogs that have more sensitive stomachs. To put this in perspective, a medium-sized dog weighing 50 pounds would only need to eat 1 ounce of baker's chocolate, or 9 ounces of milk chocolate, to potentially show signs of poisoning. For many dogs, ingesting small amounts of milk chocolate is not harmful.","human_ref_B":"THC + chocolate = vet NOW!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1462.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzz2go","c_root_id_B":"hlzur5g","created_at_utc_A":1637816733,"created_at_utc_B":1637814449,"score_A":198,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"THC + chocolate = vet NOW!","human_ref_B":"Take her to an emergency vet immediately.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2284.0,"score_ratio":2.7887323944}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzz2go","c_root_id_B":"hlzurtl","created_at_utc_A":1637816733,"created_at_utc_B":1637814459,"score_A":198,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"THC + chocolate = vet NOW!","human_ref_B":"You should have her assessed on an emergent basis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2274.0,"score_ratio":3.4137931034}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzuklc","c_root_id_B":"hlzz2go","created_at_utc_A":1637814355,"created_at_utc_B":1637816733,"score_A":3,"score_B":198,"human_ref_A":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"THC + chocolate = vet NOW!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2378.0,"score_ratio":66.0}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzur5g","c_root_id_B":"hlzwc70","created_at_utc_A":1637814449,"created_at_utc_B":1637815271,"score_A":71,"score_B":81,"human_ref_A":"Take her to an emergency vet immediately.","human_ref_B":"Anyone going to mention that chocolate is very toxic to dogs?  >How much chocolate is poisonous to a dog? The amount of toxic theobromine varies with the type of chocolate. The darker and more bitter the chocolate, the more dangerous it is to dogs. Baking chocolate and gourmet dark chocolate are highly concentrated and contain 130-450 mg of theobromine per ounce. Common milk chocolate only contains about 44-58 mg\/ounce. White chocolate rarely poses any threat of chocolate poisoning with only 0.25 mg of theobromine per ounce of chocolate. Even if the amount ingested is not a toxicity concern, dogs can still become ill from the fat and sugar in chocolate. These can cause pancreatitis in severe cases or in dogs that have more sensitive stomachs. To put this in perspective, a medium-sized dog weighing 50 pounds would only need to eat 1 ounce of baker's chocolate, or 9 ounces of milk chocolate, to potentially show signs of poisoning. For many dogs, ingesting small amounts of milk chocolate is not harmful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":822.0,"score_ratio":1.1408450704}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzwc70","c_root_id_B":"hlzurtl","created_at_utc_A":1637815271,"created_at_utc_B":1637814459,"score_A":81,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Anyone going to mention that chocolate is very toxic to dogs?  >How much chocolate is poisonous to a dog? The amount of toxic theobromine varies with the type of chocolate. The darker and more bitter the chocolate, the more dangerous it is to dogs. Baking chocolate and gourmet dark chocolate are highly concentrated and contain 130-450 mg of theobromine per ounce. Common milk chocolate only contains about 44-58 mg\/ounce. White chocolate rarely poses any threat of chocolate poisoning with only 0.25 mg of theobromine per ounce of chocolate. Even if the amount ingested is not a toxicity concern, dogs can still become ill from the fat and sugar in chocolate. These can cause pancreatitis in severe cases or in dogs that have more sensitive stomachs. To put this in perspective, a medium-sized dog weighing 50 pounds would only need to eat 1 ounce of baker's chocolate, or 9 ounces of milk chocolate, to potentially show signs of poisoning. For many dogs, ingesting small amounts of milk chocolate is not harmful.","human_ref_B":"You should have her assessed on an emergent basis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":812.0,"score_ratio":1.3965517241}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzuklc","c_root_id_B":"hlzwc70","created_at_utc_A":1637814355,"created_at_utc_B":1637815271,"score_A":3,"score_B":81,"human_ref_A":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Anyone going to mention that chocolate is very toxic to dogs?  >How much chocolate is poisonous to a dog? The amount of toxic theobromine varies with the type of chocolate. The darker and more bitter the chocolate, the more dangerous it is to dogs. Baking chocolate and gourmet dark chocolate are highly concentrated and contain 130-450 mg of theobromine per ounce. Common milk chocolate only contains about 44-58 mg\/ounce. White chocolate rarely poses any threat of chocolate poisoning with only 0.25 mg of theobromine per ounce of chocolate. Even if the amount ingested is not a toxicity concern, dogs can still become ill from the fat and sugar in chocolate. These can cause pancreatitis in severe cases or in dogs that have more sensitive stomachs. To put this in perspective, a medium-sized dog weighing 50 pounds would only need to eat 1 ounce of baker's chocolate, or 9 ounces of milk chocolate, to potentially show signs of poisoning. For many dogs, ingesting small amounts of milk chocolate is not harmful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":916.0,"score_ratio":27.0}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzuklc","c_root_id_B":"hlzur5g","created_at_utc_A":1637814355,"created_at_utc_B":1637814449,"score_A":3,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Take her to an emergency vet immediately.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":94.0,"score_ratio":23.6666666667}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hm0byua","c_root_id_B":"hlzurtl","created_at_utc_A":1637824540,"created_at_utc_B":1637814459,"score_A":63,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Unreal. Vet appointment ASAP","human_ref_B":"You should have her assessed on an emergent basis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10081.0,"score_ratio":1.0862068966}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzuklc","c_root_id_B":"hm0byua","created_at_utc_A":1637814355,"created_at_utc_B":1637824540,"score_A":3,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Unreal. Vet appointment ASAP","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10185.0,"score_ratio":21.0}
{"post_id":"r1nv1y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog is high My friend left a 1000 milligram THC brownie and my dog ate it. She is a 4 pound female shitzu and I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps blacking out and wobbling. She has been like this for a couple hours now. She through up an hour after eating it and hasn\u2019t had any fluids or food for a couple hours. Please help","c_root_id_A":"hlzuklc","c_root_id_B":"hlzurtl","created_at_utc_A":1637814355,"created_at_utc_B":1637814459,"score_A":3,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Your post has NOT been removed.  We see you mention CBD, TDC, or Cannaboids in your post. At this point in time, r\/AskVet's official position is \"While research is ongoing regarding CBD products for dogs and cats, the available data are both mixed in quality and in results. Given the very real concerns surrounding manufacturing standards of CBD products, the difficult legal status of the products, and the availability of medications with known safety and efficacy for the indications that CBD is often suggested for, we do not currently recommend their use.\"   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"You should have her assessed on an emergent basis.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":104.0,"score_ratio":19.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gp6lz5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How the hell do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? Species: cat   Age: 9 years   Sex\/neuter status: female spayed   Breed: Domestic shorthair   Body weight: 12lbs   History: UTI once, prone to vomiting. Used to be on prednisolone   Clinical signs: loss of appetite   Duration: 4 days   General location: western NY   Test results: bloodwork was normal. X ray showed bad GI inflammation, no visible obstruction but vet said it could be a possibility of a really small one. I already all my money at the emergency vet last night and doing barium imaging would have more than doubled the cost and I just couldn\u2019t do it.   Maggie came home at around 1am last night. I couldn\u2019t be in with her so I feel like my info from the vet isn\u2019t as comprehensive as it would be. She got subcutaneous fluids, cerenia injection, famototidine injection.   Vet sent her home with 3 tablets- metronidazole, famotidine, and cerenia. This morning she was supposed to start the metronizadole, 1\/4 tablet every 12 hours. I tried for a half hour to get her to take it. I finally just loosely straddled her and managed to open her mouth but she just started drooling excessively and ran away and I\u2019m not sure she got any of it. She seemed so much better last night and even ate a little and this morning she ate even less and looks a little haggard.   Every time she gets a pill from a vet I mention I can\u2019t get her to take it. So they show me with her and it\u2019s so easy. Takes like 30 seconds. I try to replicate what they do and I get bit, she runs, she spits it out, etc.   And tonight she gets 3 pills!  Pill pockets don\u2019t work, I\u2019ve hid it in her food, etc. and especially now with her decreased appetite it\u2019s even harder. What is your secret?? I\u2019m afraid if I can\u2019t get her to actually ingest all of these pills I\u2019m gonna lose her and I just can\u2019t afford to take her back to the vet, since I\u2019ve suffered major income loss due to Covid. My credit isn\u2019t good enough for scratchpay because I have so many student loans. I *need* her to take these pills.","c_root_id_A":"frk4wjs","c_root_id_B":"frkb6au","created_at_utc_A":1590249592,"created_at_utc_B":1590253082,"score_A":42,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"It's much easier at the vet's office because the cat isn't in their own territory and so they are more subdued. Once in their own home, they are more confident to fight you.   Not sure this will help, but can you take the cat to another place in the carrier, and then try the pills?","human_ref_B":"Invest in a \"pill gun\" which is a device that will told a capsule or tablet with a plunger to pop it into the back of the oral cavity. They work well when followed with a small syringe of water ito the corner of the mouth to force a swallow. Ask your veterinarian if they sell pill guns (you can also buy them at pet stores)  and to supply you with a 3mL syringe. I also find that using empty gel capsules can make it easier when you have to give several medications at the same time","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3490.0,"score_ratio":1.7857142857}
{"post_id":"gp6lz5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How the hell do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? Species: cat   Age: 9 years   Sex\/neuter status: female spayed   Breed: Domestic shorthair   Body weight: 12lbs   History: UTI once, prone to vomiting. Used to be on prednisolone   Clinical signs: loss of appetite   Duration: 4 days   General location: western NY   Test results: bloodwork was normal. X ray showed bad GI inflammation, no visible obstruction but vet said it could be a possibility of a really small one. I already all my money at the emergency vet last night and doing barium imaging would have more than doubled the cost and I just couldn\u2019t do it.   Maggie came home at around 1am last night. I couldn\u2019t be in with her so I feel like my info from the vet isn\u2019t as comprehensive as it would be. She got subcutaneous fluids, cerenia injection, famototidine injection.   Vet sent her home with 3 tablets- metronidazole, famotidine, and cerenia. This morning she was supposed to start the metronizadole, 1\/4 tablet every 12 hours. I tried for a half hour to get her to take it. I finally just loosely straddled her and managed to open her mouth but she just started drooling excessively and ran away and I\u2019m not sure she got any of it. She seemed so much better last night and even ate a little and this morning she ate even less and looks a little haggard.   Every time she gets a pill from a vet I mention I can\u2019t get her to take it. So they show me with her and it\u2019s so easy. Takes like 30 seconds. I try to replicate what they do and I get bit, she runs, she spits it out, etc.   And tonight she gets 3 pills!  Pill pockets don\u2019t work, I\u2019ve hid it in her food, etc. and especially now with her decreased appetite it\u2019s even harder. What is your secret?? I\u2019m afraid if I can\u2019t get her to actually ingest all of these pills I\u2019m gonna lose her and I just can\u2019t afford to take her back to the vet, since I\u2019ve suffered major income loss due to Covid. My credit isn\u2019t good enough for scratchpay because I have so many student loans. I *need* her to take these pills.","c_root_id_A":"frkxdye","c_root_id_B":"frkj5pa","created_at_utc_A":1590265318,"created_at_utc_B":1590257431,"score_A":27,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Pilling a cat that really doesn't want its meds by yourself is tough, even for a seasoned pro. With a squirmy patient, it can be helpful to have two people on deck - one restraining and one doing the actual pilling. When that's not possible, my favorite trick for keeping a cat still is the cat burrito: you wrap the cat securely in a towel so only the area of interest (the head, in this case) is exposed. Cat can't squirm away or free its paws to push away your hands and no scruffing necessary. With your cat sufficiently restrained, this would give you a lot more freedom to focus on the actual pilling part. (Part of the reason your cat might be fighting so hard is I've heard metronidazole tastes \\*real bad\\*. Like real bad. So a bunch of failed attempts of putting it in her mouth and spitting it out perpetuates the bad taste, unfortunately.)  Here's a link to a pretty good towel tutorial:  https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pGI2kDjhHbE   I'd recommend practicing several times before you actually pill her to make sure your technique is good and so she doesn't assume the towel = pill. I know her appetite is down, but it there's any really stinky treat you could offer her that she'd take (maybe like the liquid from a can of tuna) use it in conjunction with the towel so she learns the towel is actually pretty neat.","human_ref_B":"I completely understand that this may not be feasible now, but can ask them if they can have the meds compounded into a liquid.  Second the pill gun","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7887.0,"score_ratio":1.5882352941}
{"post_id":"gp6lz5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How the hell do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? Species: cat   Age: 9 years   Sex\/neuter status: female spayed   Breed: Domestic shorthair   Body weight: 12lbs   History: UTI once, prone to vomiting. Used to be on prednisolone   Clinical signs: loss of appetite   Duration: 4 days   General location: western NY   Test results: bloodwork was normal. X ray showed bad GI inflammation, no visible obstruction but vet said it could be a possibility of a really small one. I already all my money at the emergency vet last night and doing barium imaging would have more than doubled the cost and I just couldn\u2019t do it.   Maggie came home at around 1am last night. I couldn\u2019t be in with her so I feel like my info from the vet isn\u2019t as comprehensive as it would be. She got subcutaneous fluids, cerenia injection, famototidine injection.   Vet sent her home with 3 tablets- metronidazole, famotidine, and cerenia. This morning she was supposed to start the metronizadole, 1\/4 tablet every 12 hours. I tried for a half hour to get her to take it. I finally just loosely straddled her and managed to open her mouth but she just started drooling excessively and ran away and I\u2019m not sure she got any of it. She seemed so much better last night and even ate a little and this morning she ate even less and looks a little haggard.   Every time she gets a pill from a vet I mention I can\u2019t get her to take it. So they show me with her and it\u2019s so easy. Takes like 30 seconds. I try to replicate what they do and I get bit, she runs, she spits it out, etc.   And tonight she gets 3 pills!  Pill pockets don\u2019t work, I\u2019ve hid it in her food, etc. and especially now with her decreased appetite it\u2019s even harder. What is your secret?? I\u2019m afraid if I can\u2019t get her to actually ingest all of these pills I\u2019m gonna lose her and I just can\u2019t afford to take her back to the vet, since I\u2019ve suffered major income loss due to Covid. My credit isn\u2019t good enough for scratchpay because I have so many student loans. I *need* her to take these pills.","c_root_id_A":"frl9qpy","c_root_id_B":"frlgp3c","created_at_utc_A":1590272343,"created_at_utc_B":1590276328,"score_A":8,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but empty gelatin capsules are a life saver. You can put the pills in there so that they don\u2019t taste the nasty pill. Then wrap a treat around them (Meow Mix Irresistibles can be mushed around the pill almost like clay haha) and give it to the cat.","human_ref_B":"CVT here. How do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? They have a veterinary technician do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3985.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"gp6lz5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"How the hell do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? Species: cat   Age: 9 years   Sex\/neuter status: female spayed   Breed: Domestic shorthair   Body weight: 12lbs   History: UTI once, prone to vomiting. Used to be on prednisolone   Clinical signs: loss of appetite   Duration: 4 days   General location: western NY   Test results: bloodwork was normal. X ray showed bad GI inflammation, no visible obstruction but vet said it could be a possibility of a really small one. I already all my money at the emergency vet last night and doing barium imaging would have more than doubled the cost and I just couldn\u2019t do it.   Maggie came home at around 1am last night. I couldn\u2019t be in with her so I feel like my info from the vet isn\u2019t as comprehensive as it would be. She got subcutaneous fluids, cerenia injection, famototidine injection.   Vet sent her home with 3 tablets- metronidazole, famotidine, and cerenia. This morning she was supposed to start the metronizadole, 1\/4 tablet every 12 hours. I tried for a half hour to get her to take it. I finally just loosely straddled her and managed to open her mouth but she just started drooling excessively and ran away and I\u2019m not sure she got any of it. She seemed so much better last night and even ate a little and this morning she ate even less and looks a little haggard.   Every time she gets a pill from a vet I mention I can\u2019t get her to take it. So they show me with her and it\u2019s so easy. Takes like 30 seconds. I try to replicate what they do and I get bit, she runs, she spits it out, etc.   And tonight she gets 3 pills!  Pill pockets don\u2019t work, I\u2019ve hid it in her food, etc. and especially now with her decreased appetite it\u2019s even harder. What is your secret?? I\u2019m afraid if I can\u2019t get her to actually ingest all of these pills I\u2019m gonna lose her and I just can\u2019t afford to take her back to the vet, since I\u2019ve suffered major income loss due to Covid. My credit isn\u2019t good enough for scratchpay because I have so many student loans. I *need* her to take these pills.","c_root_id_A":"frlgp3c","c_root_id_B":"frlg9t1","created_at_utc_A":1590276328,"created_at_utc_B":1590276083,"score_A":16,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"CVT here. How do vets make giving a cat a pill look so easy? They have a veterinary technician do it.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. I'm a vet assistant so idk if I'm allowed to post here. But if you live close enough to the vet to not make it hassle, maybe ask them if you can come in at least once a day for them to give the cat at least one dose. We do this at my clinic for no charge for clients that really aren't able to pill their animals, and at least you'll know she's getting at least one dose a day.   If not, or just for the second dose, if you cant  get a pill gun, one of the easiest ways I find to pill animals is to crush up the pills (ask your vet if it's ok for those specific pills to be crushed) then put it in a syringe with water,mix it up, put the syringe in the gap of the cats teeth with their head tilted up and squirt it in. Then rub the cats throat to stimulate her to swallow and don't lower her head until she does.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":245.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"ant86q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Pregnant Pupper Weird situation, seeking informed advice.  I made this account just to ask this question. I'm not a regular to this site but trust its reputation for connecting useful bits of info. I don't know the rules here or the different\/ appropriate subreddits, so here's my apology now.   There is an approximately 8 month old dog that has come into my life recently. She is not mine, nor is she precisely a stray. Supposedly, her owners asked my coworker to watch her while they had pressing personal health concerns. I don't think they're bad people, I think it's most likely he's a misleading, scummy friend who let them down hard.  I took over care for her when I realized he didn't care if I did, or if she died. I had been checking on her for a couple days and saw how poorly her conditions were kept and her needs neglected.   caption  caption  Since I've gotten her closer, it's become extremely apparent she is deeply pregnant.  I know almost nothing about dog pregnancy or care during labor, besides what Google told me.  I've been working with her for like 4 days. I know nothing about her breed, vaccination history, worm and flea maintenance, nada. Supposedly her owners are contactable and are expected to retrieve her within the next week and a half, but I'm working with limited information and resources.  I read some about denning\/ nesting, and about isolating the mother. I set up a small tent, one I was going to throw away anyway, on pallets and under a tarp. Cleaned it up, set down hay to cover the floor, left blankets and such soft things which nobody minds seeing ruined. (Frankly, it's all stuff that was set to be tossed, so I'm glad to see it do some use.) Left an old shirt of mine in there too, she seems to be attaching to me as a temporary replacement for whoever her real people are.  caption  caption  We can't trust her to stay on the property if she's untethered, so I've set up something like a makeshift dog run and leash out of livestock lead ropes. I've been looping another lead rope the best I can like a body harness, so there's as much stress reduction as I am capable of offering. I don't have an actual harness to use.  caption  Right now I've got some basic puppy food I've been leaving out for her to graze. Been feeding her fish oil pills and basic vitamins, too, because she reacts to them like they're Treats. I bring her inside my space during the day, because she seems a social girl desiring of cuddles and attention. However I am setting her out to sleep in her 'cave' at night, because I don't have a safe place to offer her for birth inside my space. (Again, working with limited resources.) It's been a couple nights, and I'm finally seeing her dig around and rearrange the space inside.  caption  caption  She's become defensive of her food, so I've isolated her from other dogs. I'm choosing to set her on a lead at night, because it sounds like dogs are more likely to go into labor when they have dark and private.  I would love to be able to take her to a vet, but I lack both funds and vehicle and live sorta far from anything convenient via bike. If anyone near Plantersville, TX with veterinary or animal health training wanted to stop by, it might end up being a literal life saver, but I'm not known for being the hopeful sort.   She has visible teats and confirmed milk production. Her vulva\/ nether bits appear visibly inflamed\/ swollen\/ loose, but again I am not a vet and don't know what I'm looking at with anything like informed perspective.   Her abdomen is obviously enlarged, and a flat palm will detect subtle movement inside her belly. I have yet to see anything like consistent ripples or waves, as contractions have been described. I have seen little movements, that look almost like an Alien\u2122 xenomorph moving under the skin before becoming a chestburster. Except, like, tiny baby puppy sized.   caption  caption  caption  She's not my dog. She's not my responsibility. But I've seen that if I don't take the steps to provide her care, she simply will not receive it, which I cannot stomach.   I'm trying to provide the best care for her I can with both limited resources and time. I'm trying to take care of her how I would want my dog taken care of if one of my supposed friends let me down very badly.   Any and all pieces of useful, relevant information are requested. Everything I can learn about this situation might help me help her and her pups through this crappy ordeal. I really don't want to see anyone die.","c_root_id_A":"efwth7a","c_root_id_B":"efx9fam","created_at_utc_A":1549500711,"created_at_utc_B":1549513985,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for stepping in and helping her!!","human_ref_B":"Here is my concern, what is going to happen to these puppies after she has them? They are going to need vaccinations and regular worming until they are 8 weeks old, possibly older if homes arent found for them right away, it's also not in their best interest to be reared outside where climate can play a large role in life or death until they can regulate their own temperature.   It sounds like the actual owners *may* not be bad people, but at the minimum need to seek out spay\/neuter services once mama has weaned the puppies. There are usually quite a few programs that will even provide this for free.   It may not be something you want to deal with, but the lives of this mama and her puppies are in your hands right now. If she needs emergency intervention, which with her size she hopefully would not, but if she does, what's the plan?   Taking on a dog even temporarily is a huge responsibility, as you obviously know, didnt agree too, but are trying your best at. However it wouldn't hurt to reach out to local shelters, rescues, or animal welfare professionals. You need a backup plan, especially if the owners don't come back for her soon and she has these puppies. It's nearly that time of year, shelters\/rescues will soon be overflowing with puppies and there will be less assistance and space to go around. Especially down here in Texas.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13274.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ant86q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Pregnant Pupper Weird situation, seeking informed advice.  I made this account just to ask this question. I'm not a regular to this site but trust its reputation for connecting useful bits of info. I don't know the rules here or the different\/ appropriate subreddits, so here's my apology now.   There is an approximately 8 month old dog that has come into my life recently. She is not mine, nor is she precisely a stray. Supposedly, her owners asked my coworker to watch her while they had pressing personal health concerns. I don't think they're bad people, I think it's most likely he's a misleading, scummy friend who let them down hard.  I took over care for her when I realized he didn't care if I did, or if she died. I had been checking on her for a couple days and saw how poorly her conditions were kept and her needs neglected.   caption  caption  Since I've gotten her closer, it's become extremely apparent she is deeply pregnant.  I know almost nothing about dog pregnancy or care during labor, besides what Google told me.  I've been working with her for like 4 days. I know nothing about her breed, vaccination history, worm and flea maintenance, nada. Supposedly her owners are contactable and are expected to retrieve her within the next week and a half, but I'm working with limited information and resources.  I read some about denning\/ nesting, and about isolating the mother. I set up a small tent, one I was going to throw away anyway, on pallets and under a tarp. Cleaned it up, set down hay to cover the floor, left blankets and such soft things which nobody minds seeing ruined. (Frankly, it's all stuff that was set to be tossed, so I'm glad to see it do some use.) Left an old shirt of mine in there too, she seems to be attaching to me as a temporary replacement for whoever her real people are.  caption  caption  We can't trust her to stay on the property if she's untethered, so I've set up something like a makeshift dog run and leash out of livestock lead ropes. I've been looping another lead rope the best I can like a body harness, so there's as much stress reduction as I am capable of offering. I don't have an actual harness to use.  caption  Right now I've got some basic puppy food I've been leaving out for her to graze. Been feeding her fish oil pills and basic vitamins, too, because she reacts to them like they're Treats. I bring her inside my space during the day, because she seems a social girl desiring of cuddles and attention. However I am setting her out to sleep in her 'cave' at night, because I don't have a safe place to offer her for birth inside my space. (Again, working with limited resources.) It's been a couple nights, and I'm finally seeing her dig around and rearrange the space inside.  caption  caption  She's become defensive of her food, so I've isolated her from other dogs. I'm choosing to set her on a lead at night, because it sounds like dogs are more likely to go into labor when they have dark and private.  I would love to be able to take her to a vet, but I lack both funds and vehicle and live sorta far from anything convenient via bike. If anyone near Plantersville, TX with veterinary or animal health training wanted to stop by, it might end up being a literal life saver, but I'm not known for being the hopeful sort.   She has visible teats and confirmed milk production. Her vulva\/ nether bits appear visibly inflamed\/ swollen\/ loose, but again I am not a vet and don't know what I'm looking at with anything like informed perspective.   Her abdomen is obviously enlarged, and a flat palm will detect subtle movement inside her belly. I have yet to see anything like consistent ripples or waves, as contractions have been described. I have seen little movements, that look almost like an Alien\u2122 xenomorph moving under the skin before becoming a chestburster. Except, like, tiny baby puppy sized.   caption  caption  caption  She's not my dog. She's not my responsibility. But I've seen that if I don't take the steps to provide her care, she simply will not receive it, which I cannot stomach.   I'm trying to provide the best care for her I can with both limited resources and time. I'm trying to take care of her how I would want my dog taken care of if one of my supposed friends let me down very badly.   Any and all pieces of useful, relevant information are requested. Everything I can learn about this situation might help me help her and her pups through this crappy ordeal. I really don't want to see anyone die.","c_root_id_A":"efwth7a","c_root_id_B":"efxcczr","created_at_utc_A":1549500711,"created_at_utc_B":1549516881,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for stepping in and helping her!!","human_ref_B":"If you haven't, I'd call your local animal shelter and tell them what's going on. They may not be able to do much, or they might be able to help with supplies and advice. We often will counsel and help people with pregnant or newly born animals so they can care for them until the babies are old enough to come to the shelter.   I don't know if there's plans for the puppies after they're born (if indeed there are puppies!). A shelter should be able to provide vaccines, deworming, and spay\/neuter once they're old enough (though this almost certainly mean surrendering them to the shelter).   This is all very region\/location dependent, but hopefully you can get at least some more local advice and help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16170.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"xipbq8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"4 week old kitten dying i found a kitten and i fed her and everything she was fine running around and meowing. Suddenly she started becoming lethargic. i\u2019m in malaysia currently and no Vet service is available until a few hours later. i\u2019m stressed out and i don\u2019t know what to do . She is breathing like smth is stuck in her airway and she is just limp not responding but her eyes are open and she is alive how to save her please help me","c_root_id_A":"ip4o1m5","c_root_id_B":"ip4u8pj","created_at_utc_A":1663630425,"created_at_utc_B":1663633357,"score_A":17,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"So \ud83d\ude1e sorry","human_ref_B":"Thank you for doing your best. Sending positive thoughts \u2764\ufe0f","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2932.0,"score_ratio":1.8235294118}
{"post_id":"xipbq8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"4 week old kitten dying i found a kitten and i fed her and everything she was fine running around and meowing. Suddenly she started becoming lethargic. i\u2019m in malaysia currently and no Vet service is available until a few hours later. i\u2019m stressed out and i don\u2019t know what to do . She is breathing like smth is stuck in her airway and she is just limp not responding but her eyes are open and she is alive how to save her please help me","c_root_id_A":"ip4vzz3","c_root_id_B":"ip4o1m5","created_at_utc_A":1663634186,"created_at_utc_B":1663630425,"score_A":22,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Please make sure that whatever she had is not transmittable to humans! You might still want to talk to a vet\/doctor.","human_ref_B":"So \ud83d\ude1e sorry","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3761.0,"score_ratio":1.2941176471}
{"post_id":"wwsoec","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Just got off the phone with our vet and was told that the lab results came back positive for sarcoma. They said he has a few months max before we should put him to sleep but does anyone have any experience with your pet getting better? He\u2019s a 9yr male rottie We are willing to put him to sleep if it means making it easier on him","c_root_id_A":"ilo9sop","c_root_id_B":"ilnv1if","created_at_utc_A":1661389704,"created_at_utc_B":1661383353,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"There\u2019s a lot of information missing.   Where did the sample come from? How big is the mass? When was it first noticed? How quickly has it been growing? Have there been any changes to appetite or behavior?  It won\u2019t get better without treatment, unfortunately. You could talk to an oncologist about slowing the progression of disease and improving quality of life for the time being. However, this is likely going to continue to progress. It\u2019s just a question of how fast, and what effect it will have on quality of life.","human_ref_B":"How is your dog doing? Go by how your dog is acting. Make your dog comfortable . Good luck","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6351.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wwsoec","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Just got off the phone with our vet and was told that the lab results came back positive for sarcoma. They said he has a few months max before we should put him to sleep but does anyone have any experience with your pet getting better? He\u2019s a 9yr male rottie We are willing to put him to sleep if it means making it easier on him","c_root_id_A":"iloav2d","c_root_id_B":"ilnv1if","created_at_utc_A":1661390147,"created_at_utc_B":1661383353,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Talk to your vet and discuss your options thoroughly","human_ref_B":"How is your dog doing? Go by how your dog is acting. Make your dog comfortable . Good luck","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6794.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6uexb6","c_root_id_B":"i6s6wkk","created_at_utc_A":1651360355,"created_at_utc_B":1651321570,"score_A":55,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"What good is this sub,when all most ppl do is being hateful to others? The way some of you act,the only ppl who should have pets are the rich. This lady saved this dog from a rotten place and some have the nerve to say she really didn\u2019t save it, WTH is that? Ppl come here to ask advise to take care of their pets the best they can, and most of you just put them down. If they didn\u2019t care for them they wouldn\u2019t be here, would you prefer that better?","human_ref_B":"Is she spayed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":38785.0,"score_ratio":1.5277777778}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6uexb6","c_root_id_B":"i6s6flf","created_at_utc_A":1651360355,"created_at_utc_B":1651321271,"score_A":55,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"What good is this sub,when all most ppl do is being hateful to others? The way some of you act,the only ppl who should have pets are the rich. This lady saved this dog from a rotten place and some have the nerve to say she really didn\u2019t save it, WTH is that? Ppl come here to ask advise to take care of their pets the best they can, and most of you just put them down. If they didn\u2019t care for them they wouldn\u2019t be here, would you prefer that better?","human_ref_B":"Is she a sharpei mix or does she have \u201cgrey\u201d toned under skin?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39084.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6uexb6","c_root_id_B":"i6tid39","created_at_utc_A":1651360355,"created_at_utc_B":1651344466,"score_A":55,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"What good is this sub,when all most ppl do is being hateful to others? The way some of you act,the only ppl who should have pets are the rich. This lady saved this dog from a rotten place and some have the nerve to say she really didn\u2019t save it, WTH is that? Ppl come here to ask advise to take care of their pets the best they can, and most of you just put them down. If they didn\u2019t care for them they wouldn\u2019t be here, would you prefer that better?","human_ref_B":"Local municipal or county shelters usually give vouchers for free spay with their vet or a partner vet clinic!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15889.0,"score_ratio":9.1666666667}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6uexb6","c_root_id_B":"i6s66mv","created_at_utc_A":1651360355,"created_at_utc_B":1651321114,"score_A":55,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"What good is this sub,when all most ppl do is being hateful to others? The way some of you act,the only ppl who should have pets are the rich. This lady saved this dog from a rotten place and some have the nerve to say she really didn\u2019t save it, WTH is that? Ppl come here to ask advise to take care of their pets the best they can, and most of you just put them down. If they didn\u2019t care for them they wouldn\u2019t be here, would you prefer that better?","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39241.0,"score_ratio":27.5}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6u84hf","c_root_id_B":"i6uexb6","created_at_utc_A":1651356965,"created_at_utc_B":1651360355,"score_A":2,"score_B":55,"human_ref_A":"PSA:  If you \u201crescue\u201d an animal but don\u2019t have the funds to provide it medical care it wasn\u2019t rescued, it just had a change of address.  I appreciate OP took this dog out of a reportedly worse situation but if OP can\u2019t afford basic vet care the responsible decision would be to find a rescue to work with or surrender the dog to.","human_ref_B":"What good is this sub,when all most ppl do is being hateful to others? The way some of you act,the only ppl who should have pets are the rich. This lady saved this dog from a rotten place and some have the nerve to say she really didn\u2019t save it, WTH is that? Ppl come here to ask advise to take care of their pets the best they can, and most of you just put them down. If they didn\u2019t care for them they wouldn\u2019t be here, would you prefer that better?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3390.0,"score_ratio":27.5}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6s6wkk","c_root_id_B":"i6s6flf","created_at_utc_A":1651321570,"created_at_utc_B":1651321271,"score_A":36,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Is she spayed?","human_ref_B":"Is she a sharpei mix or does she have \u201cgrey\u201d toned under skin?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":299.0,"score_ratio":3.6}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6s66mv","c_root_id_B":"i6s6wkk","created_at_utc_A":1651321114,"created_at_utc_B":1651321570,"score_A":2,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Is she spayed?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":456.0,"score_ratio":18.0}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6s66mv","c_root_id_B":"i6s6flf","created_at_utc_A":1651321114,"created_at_utc_B":1651321271,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Is she a sharpei mix or does she have \u201cgrey\u201d toned under skin?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":157.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6ug7pt","c_root_id_B":"i6tid39","created_at_utc_A":1651361013,"created_at_utc_B":1651344466,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Re: the nipples. I have found that keeping the area cleansed every day helps with dogs prone to this.","human_ref_B":"Local municipal or county shelters usually give vouchers for free spay with their vet or a partner vet clinic!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16547.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6s66mv","c_root_id_B":"i6ug7pt","created_at_utc_A":1651321114,"created_at_utc_B":1651361013,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Re: the nipples. I have found that keeping the area cleansed every day helps with dogs prone to this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":39899.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6u84hf","c_root_id_B":"i6ug7pt","created_at_utc_A":1651356965,"created_at_utc_B":1651361013,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"PSA:  If you \u201crescue\u201d an animal but don\u2019t have the funds to provide it medical care it wasn\u2019t rescued, it just had a change of address.  I appreciate OP took this dog out of a reportedly worse situation but if OP can\u2019t afford basic vet care the responsible decision would be to find a rescue to work with or surrender the dog to.","human_ref_B":"Re: the nipples. I have found that keeping the area cleansed every day helps with dogs prone to this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4048.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"uf9xqh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So we rescued a dog and her nipples are covered in blackheads. So we rescued a dog off my \"friend\" who wasn't treating her very well. Since we've had her she's a new dog. Originally she was incredibly aggressive and wouldn't let anyone near her. Now she's a family dog who's as soppy as can be and spends her time cuddling with me and my 10 month old. Only problem we still have with her is her nipples. They are covered in blackheads and from time to time they get inflamed and sore causing her obvious discomfort. I'd like some advice as to how to treat this from home. I'm not against taking her to a vets but right now the financial implications of a vet are far too high.   Thanks in advance \u263a","c_root_id_A":"i6s66mv","c_root_id_B":"i6tid39","created_at_utc_A":1651321114,"created_at_utc_B":1651344466,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Local municipal or county shelters usually give vouchers for free spay with their vet or a partner vet clinic!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23352.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"innqvu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"General question about spaying cats and dogs I asked this on r\/nostupidquestions and a lot of the answers I got were kind of questionable, so I wanted to ask here. To clarify, I'm 100% in favor of spaying and neutering and my cats are spayed and neutered.  My question: Removing a human's ovaries often causes significant effects such as cardiac problems, cognitive issues, osteoporosis, and a reduced lifespan. However, based on some reading I've done, spaying cats and dogs doesn't cause similar effects, at least not to nearly the same extent.   Does spaying cause similar effects in cats and dogs to what humans experience after oophorectomy and cat and dog owners are less aware of those effects? Or do cats and dogs not experience those effects from spaying? And if the latter is the case, what is different about their physiology from that of humans?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"g4ar86s","c_root_id_B":"g4aq4da","created_at_utc_A":1599450006,"created_at_utc_B":1599449228,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Unfortunately there are very few vets who are also physicians, and vice versa, so there are few people who are experts in both. I would imagine that there is a big difference in the two because of how differently development works in people and cats and dogs. Cats and dogs mature far more quickly, and don't have menopause like humans. It is pretty reasonable to assume that there are big differences in how hormones affect us.","human_ref_B":"Cats and dogs may experience some side effects of spaying. The most common is obesity in both species and incontinence in bitches.  There is also slight increase in incidence of cruciate ligament rupture, osteosarcoma, and some other cancers in spayed bitches. In saying all this, the benefits almost always outweigh the risks. Spayed bitches never have a pyrometra, or you know, puppies, and have a decreased incidence in other types cancers.   Disclaimer: I\u2019m a vet student so lots of textbook knowledge, but not a lot of real world knowledge.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":778.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zfakai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What to do if ERs are not accepting pets? This is a general question. I am not currently experiencing an emergency. To elaborate: many times, ERs are full and not accepting patients. In this case, should people just show up to any local vet clinic, even if it\u2019s a primary care clinic, and beg for help? What is the best thing to do in that scenario? Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"izbl2yl","c_root_id_B":"izcivdn","created_at_utc_A":1670451676,"created_at_utc_B":1670466507,"score_A":24,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"If you are able to get into your primary vet and they recommend you go to urgent care, they can call the local ER to refer you. Sometimes the ER won't admit new emergency walk ins, but I've had luck transferring my patients if I call them\/go over the case so they can decide if it's something they can squeeze in or not with their other inpatients. Otherwise call around other primary care vet offices, since one might have an open appointment to squeeze you in for the day","human_ref_B":"So, even when my ER is at capacity, if someone shows up with an animal in true distress, we see it and then reroute other non life threatening issues(ie broken toe nail, diarrhea, ear infection.   The only time we would reroute a life threatening ER is if it likely will need sx and we don\u2019t have a Dr that cuts. Even then, if a pet shows up bloating(needs surgery) we still will bring them in, try to get them stabilized and then start calling other local ER to see who has a surgeon. But we won\u2019t turn away a pet actively trying to unalive itself.   We always recommend calling in advance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14831.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"zfakai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What to do if ERs are not accepting pets? This is a general question. I am not currently experiencing an emergency. To elaborate: many times, ERs are full and not accepting patients. In this case, should people just show up to any local vet clinic, even if it\u2019s a primary care clinic, and beg for help? What is the best thing to do in that scenario? Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"izcivdn","c_root_id_B":"izbvy3z","created_at_utc_A":1670466507,"created_at_utc_B":1670456247,"score_A":26,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"So, even when my ER is at capacity, if someone shows up with an animal in true distress, we see it and then reroute other non life threatening issues(ie broken toe nail, diarrhea, ear infection.   The only time we would reroute a life threatening ER is if it likely will need sx and we don\u2019t have a Dr that cuts. Even then, if a pet shows up bloating(needs surgery) we still will bring them in, try to get them stabilized and then start calling other local ER to see who has a surgeon. But we won\u2019t turn away a pet actively trying to unalive itself.   We always recommend calling in advance.","human_ref_B":"I think it\u2019s key to know where your after hour vets \/emergency vets are. I have my vet, and the 3 ERs in my area saved in my contacts w\/ addresses. This way I can call & navigate just by asking Siri, and not be panicking to find them. If it\u2019s a trauma\/true emergency time is of the essence.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10260.0,"score_ratio":1.7333333333}
{"post_id":"zfakai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What to do if ERs are not accepting pets? This is a general question. I am not currently experiencing an emergency. To elaborate: many times, ERs are full and not accepting patients. In this case, should people just show up to any local vet clinic, even if it\u2019s a primary care clinic, and beg for help? What is the best thing to do in that scenario? Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"izc2wnv","c_root_id_B":"izcivdn","created_at_utc_A":1670459329,"created_at_utc_B":1670466507,"score_A":10,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"A lot of it has to do with under staffing. Not enough doctors or technicians. There's four or five overnight ers in my area, but I work at only one of two that is 24hr. At night it's me and two other techs, a receptionist, and a doctor. Prices are going up because we can't meet the demand and the cruel things people yell at us. It's the same for GP. They pretty much automatically send their patients to us and then people are ping ponging around until they can find someone who can take them in. It's really unfortunate, but it's hard to find people that can do the job. We can't bring on newbies with no experience right now.","human_ref_B":"So, even when my ER is at capacity, if someone shows up with an animal in true distress, we see it and then reroute other non life threatening issues(ie broken toe nail, diarrhea, ear infection.   The only time we would reroute a life threatening ER is if it likely will need sx and we don\u2019t have a Dr that cuts. Even then, if a pet shows up bloating(needs surgery) we still will bring them in, try to get them stabilized and then start calling other local ER to see who has a surgeon. But we won\u2019t turn away a pet actively trying to unalive itself.   We always recommend calling in advance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7178.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"zfakai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What to do if ERs are not accepting pets? This is a general question. I am not currently experiencing an emergency. To elaborate: many times, ERs are full and not accepting patients. In this case, should people just show up to any local vet clinic, even if it\u2019s a primary care clinic, and beg for help? What is the best thing to do in that scenario? Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"izcnxv0","c_root_id_B":"izc2wnv","created_at_utc_A":1670468881,"created_at_utc_B":1670459329,"score_A":14,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"As a primary care vet I have had situations where my own patient needed emergency care I could not provide (because I had no staff and am not god and it needed a surgery I could not do) and I sent them to an ER that could not take them and that ER  sent them to another ER that could not take them so I had them bring them back to my place and I put them back on fluids etc and then I spent two hours phoning around begging for favors before I finally found an ER that could do the emergent surgery in fewer than 8 hrs. Luckily it survived. Did end up needing a lot of bowel resected though. It sucks. Sometimes there is no solution. If the ER cannot take the case due to lack of staff, they can\u2019t do it.","human_ref_B":"A lot of it has to do with under staffing. Not enough doctors or technicians. There's four or five overnight ers in my area, but I work at only one of two that is 24hr. At night it's me and two other techs, a receptionist, and a doctor. Prices are going up because we can't meet the demand and the cruel things people yell at us. It's the same for GP. They pretty much automatically send their patients to us and then people are ping ponging around until they can find someone who can take them in. It's really unfortunate, but it's hard to find people that can do the job. We can't bring on newbies with no experience right now.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9552.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx2j2qr","c_root_id_B":"hx2lpr2","created_at_utc_A":1644951431,"created_at_utc_B":1644952430,"score_A":27,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"GI foreign body","human_ref_B":"Pyometra - intact female dogs especially. This is a uterine infection and usually requires emergency spay. Prevent this by spaying your dog, as this is a possibility with each heat cycle.   Severe dental disease - try and brush your pets teeth and have routine dental care. This goes especially for cats and small dogs.   Tick borne disease - keep your pets on a flea and tick preventative   Diet related heart disease - we\u2019ve seen an increase in pets with heart disease who are being fed homemade or boutique diets. Avoid by speaking to your vet about appropriate diets for your pets   IVDD - especially with your long bodied, short legged dogs. Use ramps and don\u2019t let them jump on and off things. Research the breed of dog your getting to see what they\u2019re prone to (goes for all diseases really)  Cats with abscesses - usually outdoor cats, intact males especially. They get into fights and cat bites can cause some pretty nasty infections. Avoid by keeping your cat indoors, neutering male cats to limit aggression.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":999.0,"score_ratio":2.3703703704}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx2j2qr","c_root_id_B":"hx3v6co","created_at_utc_A":1644951431,"created_at_utc_B":1644970192,"score_A":27,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"GI foreign body","human_ref_B":"Pyometra **spay your pets**  Strangulation from collars in all ways - caught on the toilet handle, dogs playing and one\u2019s jaw getting caught, caught on cages. Please use **only breakaway collars** on cats and release clasp collars on dogs, **never** traditional buckles that require tightening to release.   Lily toxicosis in cats, sago palm - **PLEASE look into toxicity before bringing plants home!**  Foreign material ingestion\/obstruction  Nutritionally mediated dilated cardiomyopathy - yes this is still a thing, current research here. This one bothers me the most.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18761.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx2v40d","c_root_id_B":"hx2j2qr","created_at_utc_A":1644956050,"created_at_utc_B":1644951431,"score_A":39,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Seconding Heartworm Disease. Use heartworm preventative on a regular basis.  Flea Allergy Dermatitis. Use a proper flea prevention, even if your animal is indoors or you don't believe there are any fleas in your area.  Parvovirus. Keep your dogs UTD on vaccines, ALL dogs not just puppies. Avoid bringing your pups or not fully vaccinated dogs to areas with high dog traffic. Get your pups from REPUTABLE breeders. Do not vaccinate dogs yourself.  FIV\/FeLV - A lot of this is in newly adopted strays. But for owned cats, this is largely kept at bay by keeping cats indoors, or outside supervised.","human_ref_B":"GI foreign body","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4619.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx5dcrg","c_root_id_B":"hx4kg7i","created_at_utc_A":1644998997,"created_at_utc_B":1644981577,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Keep your cats indoors people","human_ref_B":"IVDD and joint issues from animals being overweight. Any issue caused by or made worse by the pet being overweight.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17420.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx5dcrg","c_root_id_B":"hx4iwni","created_at_utc_A":1644998997,"created_at_utc_B":1644980852,"score_A":21,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Keep your cats indoors people","human_ref_B":"Fleas, garbage gut","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18145.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx4iwni","c_root_id_B":"hx4kg7i","created_at_utc_A":1644980852,"created_at_utc_B":1644981577,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Fleas, garbage gut","human_ref_B":"IVDD and joint issues from animals being overweight. Any issue caused by or made worse by the pet being overweight.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":725.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"st7p33","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What are some of the most common but preventable reasons people bring their dogs and cats to you? If this isn't the right kind of question to ask in this sub, just let me know and I'll delete it\/post it elsewhere, but I don't see anything in the sub's FAQ section that's quite like this. I'm pretty much just asking the question I put in the title, but I'm also curious whether vets in different localities have different answers, whether you have the same answers all year round or if they vary a lot by season. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"hx4iwni","c_root_id_B":"hx5jae3","created_at_utc_A":1644980852,"created_at_utc_B":1645003813,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Fleas, garbage gut","human_ref_B":"The amount of people that feed their dogs chocolate or raisins\/grapes is mind blowing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22961.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"co55ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Bring younger dog when euthanizing older dog? I have been struggling with this for a while. Hoping you guys can help.  I have a 15 year old shepard mix that is scheduled to be put down Monday. I also have a 5 year old French Bulldog that grew up with the Shepard. They are pretty close.  In you experience is it a good idea to bring the younger dog to the appointment for the other?  I dont want the Frenchy to miss the older dog and not know where they went, but I also dont want him developing anxiety over the vets knowing that's where dogs go to die.","c_root_id_A":"ewge8d5","c_root_id_B":"ewg5bvw","created_at_utc_A":1565379877,"created_at_utc_B":1565374228,"score_A":69,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Years ago I totally did this... took my chi with when it was time to put my lab down because well I would want my best friend there when I die...and it definitely freaked my chi out for a while. Dont do it. Last year my chi died at home and I let my now black lab spend a few minutes with him and she definitely knew he was gone. Licked him a little bit, and laid down. She obviously knew he died and was depressed for a few weeks or so but it was much better being at home where my lab wasn't anxious from being in a strange environment.","human_ref_B":"You can also have someone come to the house and then take for cremation","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5649.0,"score_ratio":1.2777777778}
{"post_id":"co55ez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Bring younger dog when euthanizing older dog? I have been struggling with this for a while. Hoping you guys can help.  I have a 15 year old shepard mix that is scheduled to be put down Monday. I also have a 5 year old French Bulldog that grew up with the Shepard. They are pretty close.  In you experience is it a good idea to bring the younger dog to the appointment for the other?  I dont want the Frenchy to miss the older dog and not know where they went, but I also dont want him developing anxiety over the vets knowing that's where dogs go to die.","c_root_id_A":"ewge8d5","c_root_id_B":"ewgbvwo","created_at_utc_A":1565379877,"created_at_utc_B":1565378402,"score_A":69,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Years ago I totally did this... took my chi with when it was time to put my lab down because well I would want my best friend there when I die...and it definitely freaked my chi out for a while. Dont do it. Last year my chi died at home and I let my now black lab spend a few minutes with him and she definitely knew he was gone. Licked him a little bit, and laid down. She obviously knew he died and was depressed for a few weeks or so but it was much better being at home where my lab wasn't anxious from being in a strange environment.","human_ref_B":"Bring your deceased dog home for them to see for a while, personally I would not take them to the appointment.  You want to focus completely on your older dog and be there for them","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1475.0,"score_ratio":2.0909090909}
{"post_id":"ss1r9b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"cat suddenly died within a minute. when i hold her like i baby, i set her down head first, she stretches her arms out and either pushes out of my arms with her hind legs or i slide her out. she always lands gracefully. this time she landed on her side. i was sitting on my couch when i let her down so she only fell less than a foot. she vibrated a lot, let out a groan, and died. the whole event happened in around 45 seconds\u2026 we have no idea what caused it\u2026 any suggestions?  she was acting completely normal before the incident.   she mystery and confusion has made the grieving so much harder.   any tips or advice or suggestions would be really appreciated. thanks.","c_root_id_A":"hwx7vy4","c_root_id_B":"hww05le","created_at_utc_A":1644855294,"created_at_utc_B":1644828271,"score_A":67,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Lots of things can cause sudden death with no warning, but it's also possible to have underlying conditions that can lead to sudden death. Unfortunately a necropsy is required. I am so sorry for your loss. <3  This is just a gentle reminder for everyone: all cats should go to the vet 1-2 times per year (once a year at a minimum) for a wellness exam to catch disease early, cats 7+ years old should have regular blood work  (ideally every year), and cats 10+ should go to the vet a minimum of twice a year and have annual blood work and urine testing.","human_ref_B":"That is so mysterious and awful, I am so sorry. I imagine you must be, rightfully, quite disturbed and upset.   Sometimes crazy incidents just happen and they cannot be explained. Did you try asking the vet to examine the body? I know it\u2019s an expense when she\u2019s already passed, but it may give you peace of mind.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27023.0,"score_ratio":2.68}
{"post_id":"ke8r6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Restless mom My dog delivered her puppies on Sunday and has barely slept. It seems like she\u2019s constantly awake even if the puppies are sleep. How can I help her?","c_root_id_A":"gg193ex","c_root_id_B":"gg0z44z","created_at_utc_A":1608130047,"created_at_utc_B":1608123621,"score_A":78,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You can help by monitoring all unusual behavior (restlessness, by itself, is one) and calling your vet as soon as possible. Best to play it safe!  It also doesn't hurt to give her a little bit of extra care and several smaller meals per day (as opposed to 2 bigger portions a day), but that's something your vet will help you with, too.  I hope everything goes well, and congrats on the new puppies :)","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6426.0,"score_ratio":26.0}
{"post_id":"ke8r6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Restless mom My dog delivered her puppies on Sunday and has barely slept. It seems like she\u2019s constantly awake even if the puppies are sleep. How can I help her?","c_root_id_A":"gg0z44z","c_root_id_B":"gg1l52v","created_at_utc_A":1608123621,"created_at_utc_B":1608136232,"score_A":3,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Is this her first litter?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12611.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"g2c6le","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Help, I'm not sure what's wrong with this nice stray kitty I just saw this cat yesterday and she has something wrong with her eye? She's so friendly and I just want to know at least if she's in pain or not. She doesn't seem like it, but if she is, I want to take her to a vet. I don't have money for that, but I'll see what I can do. I just want her to be happy :( That being said, she's a stray (no collar or anything, so I assume she is), and I only saw her recently so I don't have much info about her. ><   * **Species: Cat** * **Age: Not sure** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female** * **Breed: Not sure** * **Body weight: Not sure** * **History: Not sure** * **Clinical signs: Something's wrong with her eye?** * **Duration: Not sure** * **Your general location: Philippines** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.: I have pics of her eye if that helps :(**   https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/yXDri81  I'm really sorry for the lack of information and if it seems like I'm panicking too much or attached too fast, I just wanna help the little kitty >< Thanks for the help!","c_root_id_A":"fnkmhnq","c_root_id_B":"fnkmjcv","created_at_utc_A":1587032735,"created_at_utc_B":1587032787,"score_A":34,"score_B":66,"human_ref_A":"Well.  Here's the thing, if this was your pet I'd say go to the vet asap.  The eye does not look good. And eye stuff can go from \"doesnt look good\" to \"really, really bad\" pretty quick.  So, if you can get her to a vet, please do so.   Maybe you can call around in your area, see who is open and taking new clients and patients. This is an unwell visit so they should be happy to get her in very quickly.  They might be able to confirm her age, sex, and check if she\/he has been fixed for you, as well.  If you're in the US, depending on her condition, getting her a rabies vaccine might be a requirement at this time too.   Call around. Tell them what's going on and get an estimate for what an exam would be, and any other bells and whistles they might be able to trouble shoot with you on the phone would cost.","human_ref_B":"She needs to be assessed by a vet as that eye looks nasty and is likely painful. If you are not able to get her to a vet yourself then try reaching out to local rescues and seeing if they're able to organise vet care . Although the current virus situation may have an impact on whether they're operating as normal or accepting new cases. Your local vet clinic may be able to help with contact info for local groups.  Thank you for caring. Also make sure you are taking precautions in your interactions with the cat as it's impossible to know what if any parasite\/disease prevention she may have had.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":52.0,"score_ratio":1.9411764706}
{"post_id":"f5wlm9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE: Zelda's results are back and it's a carcinoma. Vet fees will be $1500 Zelda's (4 year old long haired tortoise shell) results are back and they told me it is a carcinoma. They don't know if it is a breast carcinoma or a basal cell carcinoma they want to take it out and evaluate it. They want to remove her mammary chain but they will have to do it one side at a time because she's a small cat and she doesn't have a lot of excess skin. My problem is, is this costs $1500 and they aren't even done. Should I get the lumps removed and then just leave her be and let her have peace? I don't have the money to pay for all of those tests and surgeries. But I can most likely pay to get them removed and leave her be. I don't know what to do. Should I get a second opinion, are these surgeries typically this expensive?","c_root_id_A":"fi1iudn","c_root_id_B":"fi1idtg","created_at_utc_A":1582058616,"created_at_utc_B":1582058361,"score_A":26,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"At this point I would recommend asking your vet to consult with an oncologist to discuss the best way forward.  Also, could you upload the pathology report somewhere we can see it?","human_ref_B":"Can you link your previous post in the text of your submission?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":255.0,"score_ratio":8.6666666667}
{"post_id":"f5wlm9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE: Zelda's results are back and it's a carcinoma. Vet fees will be $1500 Zelda's (4 year old long haired tortoise shell) results are back and they told me it is a carcinoma. They don't know if it is a breast carcinoma or a basal cell carcinoma they want to take it out and evaluate it. They want to remove her mammary chain but they will have to do it one side at a time because she's a small cat and she doesn't have a lot of excess skin. My problem is, is this costs $1500 and they aren't even done. Should I get the lumps removed and then just leave her be and let her have peace? I don't have the money to pay for all of those tests and surgeries. But I can most likely pay to get them removed and leave her be. I don't know what to do. Should I get a second opinion, are these surgeries typically this expensive?","c_root_id_A":"fi1idtg","c_root_id_B":"fi23xgu","created_at_utc_A":1582058361,"created_at_utc_B":1582070899,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Can you link your previous post in the text of your submission?","human_ref_B":"Yes, it\u2019s a surgery. In human medicine it would cost a lot more. Your cat is very young so I would do anything possible to get her the care she needs. But first, make an appointment for a consult with an veterinary oncologist. You wouldn\u2019t go to your GP for cancer care, same for your cat.   Also, I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re dealing with this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12538.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"f5wlm9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"UPDATE: Zelda's results are back and it's a carcinoma. Vet fees will be $1500 Zelda's (4 year old long haired tortoise shell) results are back and they told me it is a carcinoma. They don't know if it is a breast carcinoma or a basal cell carcinoma they want to take it out and evaluate it. They want to remove her mammary chain but they will have to do it one side at a time because she's a small cat and she doesn't have a lot of excess skin. My problem is, is this costs $1500 and they aren't even done. Should I get the lumps removed and then just leave her be and let her have peace? I don't have the money to pay for all of those tests and surgeries. But I can most likely pay to get them removed and leave her be. I don't know what to do. Should I get a second opinion, are these surgeries typically this expensive?","c_root_id_A":"fi1idtg","c_root_id_B":"fi2m4dx","created_at_utc_A":1582058361,"created_at_utc_B":1582082993,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Can you link your previous post in the text of your submission?","human_ref_B":"Surgery cost is pretty on par, would recommend budgeting an extra $500 at a minimum in the event of complications and in case post surgical meds are not included.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24632.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"lw57g4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"feral cat lost a leg Hello everyone, in my garden there is a colony of feral cats that we feed any time we can, they are wild and not let get close, I noticed one of them totally lost the leg and part of the bone is showed outside, does he has a chance of surviving? also with just 3 legs, he is faster and nimble, thing I can do is try to feed him when he is alone avoiding other cats eat his food.","c_root_id_A":"gpftesz","c_root_id_B":"gpfqam9","created_at_utc_A":1614708039,"created_at_utc_B":1614706690,"score_A":122,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"You need to trap it get to a veterinarian. At the minimum it's going to need an amputation and if the bone is exposed can lead to a deep and very difficult to treat infection. Humane euthanasia should be considered. Maybe contact your local government animal control department and see if they have any resources to help trap it","human_ref_B":"With vet care and an appropriate amputation they should be fine as long as there isn\u2019t significant infection going on.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1349.0,"score_ratio":2.8372093023}
{"post_id":"lw57g4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"feral cat lost a leg Hello everyone, in my garden there is a colony of feral cats that we feed any time we can, they are wild and not let get close, I noticed one of them totally lost the leg and part of the bone is showed outside, does he has a chance of surviving? also with just 3 legs, he is faster and nimble, thing I can do is try to feed him when he is alone avoiding other cats eat his food.","c_root_id_A":"gpg0zqc","c_root_id_B":"gpg0y0j","created_at_utc_A":1614711299,"created_at_utc_B":1614711279,"score_A":17,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"The humane thing to do is to have it treated or euthanize him. Leaving it to rot away and cause a systemic illness that he will succumb to is not ideal.  As others have said, get a trap or contact a shelter\/animal control\/rescue group.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s called TNR in many places, Trap - Neuter - Return, in order to keep the feral cat populations down. While the cat is sedated for the spay\/neuter, he\/she can be safely evaluated for other issues such as broken bones or poor dental health. These issues can be addressed while kitty is under anesthesia and then once given some time to heal, kitty can be returned to your garden!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"k15q9w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dog ate brown recluse Species: Dog  Age: 11 months  Sex\/Neuter status: not neutered yet  Breed: Tibetan mastiff  Body weight: 110 lbs  History: He was just chasing a spider and ate it. We have had brown recluses in the past and we are 99% sure it was one.  Clinical signs: No signs yet.  Duration: This has just happened.   Your general location: at home in our living room in Tennessee.  We are going to keep an eye on  him but does anyone know what we should do? Vet is closed until Friday and I don't think he will have any symptoms for a couple days. Has this happened to anyone? What should we do?","c_root_id_A":"gdncjqw","c_root_id_B":"gdmt19s","created_at_utc_A":1606385899,"created_at_utc_B":1606370485,"score_A":16,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"You can always call the ASPCA poison control line. It will cost you $75 but they have toxicologists on staff to tell you if this is an emergency or what to watch for. If they do suggest it\u2019s an emergency they will give you a case number and call back number which the emergency veterinarian can use to consult with the toxicologist. I have all my friends keep this number in their phone if they have animals (888) 426-4435 If you are near Nashville, you have a few options for emergency care. Nashville Veterinary services has locations in both Nashville and Clarksville. Blue Pearl has locations in both Nashville and Franklin. I wish your baby luck and your family a healthy Thanksgiving.","human_ref_B":"Were you sure it was a brown recluse and not a wolf spider?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15414.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"k15q9w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dog ate brown recluse Species: Dog  Age: 11 months  Sex\/Neuter status: not neutered yet  Breed: Tibetan mastiff  Body weight: 110 lbs  History: He was just chasing a spider and ate it. We have had brown recluses in the past and we are 99% sure it was one.  Clinical signs: No signs yet.  Duration: This has just happened.   Your general location: at home in our living room in Tennessee.  We are going to keep an eye on  him but does anyone know what we should do? Vet is closed until Friday and I don't think he will have any symptoms for a couple days. Has this happened to anyone? What should we do?","c_root_id_A":"gdo1e9c","c_root_id_B":"gdo1c05","created_at_utc_A":1606402810,"created_at_utc_B":1606402771,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"There is a difference between venomous and poisonous. Main concern would be a bite in the dogs mouth\/throat. 100% worth getting checked just for that alone. Also, for what it worth, unless you\u2019re very sure on the spider ID it\u2019s unlikely to be a brown recluse. They have that name for a reason, they hide quite a bit.","human_ref_B":"i also vote emergency vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7q8y6x","c_root_id_B":"g7qa15l","created_at_utc_A":1601849629,"created_at_utc_B":1601850249,"score_A":9,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry I have no clue!  I hope you find an answer from your vet after some tests, this sounds unbearable! Poor pup.","human_ref_B":"Poor little puppy. Was he chewing or carrying a toy in his mouth each time it happened?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":620.0,"score_ratio":4.2222222222}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7r4o6w","c_root_id_B":"g7qhb9g","created_at_utc_A":1601868505,"created_at_utc_B":1601854445,"score_A":29,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Okay let\u2019s see if I can phrase this this without angering the admin bot.   Puppies at that age are growing like weeds and can often experience growing pains just like humans do. If the vet doesn\u2019t find anything else physically wrong, ask him what he thinks about growing pains as a possibility. The quick pangs of pain often affect young, fast growing breeds and can cause some weird behavior since they have no idea what\u2019s going on. I\u2019ve seen Great Dane puppies at that age limp around and you\u2019d think someone broke their legs. Nope, bones are just ouchy when they stretch quickly.   [Praying to the bot gods to appease them]","human_ref_B":"- What color and how moist are his gums?  - When did he last eat? Last poop?  - Do you live in an area with foxtails?  - Does he react when you pet him on a specific part of his body or with a certain pressure?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14060.0,"score_ratio":2.2307692308}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7r4o6w","c_root_id_B":"g7q8y6x","created_at_utc_A":1601868505,"created_at_utc_B":1601849629,"score_A":29,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Okay let\u2019s see if I can phrase this this without angering the admin bot.   Puppies at that age are growing like weeds and can often experience growing pains just like humans do. If the vet doesn\u2019t find anything else physically wrong, ask him what he thinks about growing pains as a possibility. The quick pangs of pain often affect young, fast growing breeds and can cause some weird behavior since they have no idea what\u2019s going on. I\u2019ve seen Great Dane puppies at that age limp around and you\u2019d think someone broke their legs. Nope, bones are just ouchy when they stretch quickly.   [Praying to the bot gods to appease them]","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry I have no clue!  I hope you find an answer from your vet after some tests, this sounds unbearable! Poor pup.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18876.0,"score_ratio":3.2222222222}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7r4o6w","c_root_id_B":"g7qdvi9","created_at_utc_A":1601868505,"created_at_utc_B":1601852415,"score_A":29,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Okay let\u2019s see if I can phrase this this without angering the admin bot.   Puppies at that age are growing like weeds and can often experience growing pains just like humans do. If the vet doesn\u2019t find anything else physically wrong, ask him what he thinks about growing pains as a possibility. The quick pangs of pain often affect young, fast growing breeds and can cause some weird behavior since they have no idea what\u2019s going on. I\u2019ve seen Great Dane puppies at that age limp around and you\u2019d think someone broke their legs. Nope, bones are just ouchy when they stretch quickly.   [Praying to the bot gods to appease them]","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d suggest that any demeanor that indicates a pain reaction in an animal should be seen by a licensed veterinarian.   What if a Redditor can prove that they are a DVM or LVT?  Would these professionals be able to help with a suggested differential diagnosis ?  I suppose it\u2019s in the sub rules..","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16090.0,"score_ratio":5.8}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7r4o6w","c_root_id_B":"g7qsgjz","created_at_utc_A":1601868505,"created_at_utc_B":1601860993,"score_A":29,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Okay let\u2019s see if I can phrase this this without angering the admin bot.   Puppies at that age are growing like weeds and can often experience growing pains just like humans do. If the vet doesn\u2019t find anything else physically wrong, ask him what he thinks about growing pains as a possibility. The quick pangs of pain often affect young, fast growing breeds and can cause some weird behavior since they have no idea what\u2019s going on. I\u2019ve seen Great Dane puppies at that age limp around and you\u2019d think someone broke their legs. Nope, bones are just ouchy when they stretch quickly.   [Praying to the bot gods to appease them]","human_ref_B":"Have you looked at his teeth? Poor guy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7512.0,"score_ratio":9.6666666667}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7r4o6w","c_root_id_B":"g7r33wm","created_at_utc_A":1601868505,"created_at_utc_B":1601867455,"score_A":29,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Okay let\u2019s see if I can phrase this this without angering the admin bot.   Puppies at that age are growing like weeds and can often experience growing pains just like humans do. If the vet doesn\u2019t find anything else physically wrong, ask him what he thinks about growing pains as a possibility. The quick pangs of pain often affect young, fast growing breeds and can cause some weird behavior since they have no idea what\u2019s going on. I\u2019ve seen Great Dane puppies at that age limp around and you\u2019d think someone broke their legs. Nope, bones are just ouchy when they stretch quickly.   [Praying to the bot gods to appease them]","human_ref_B":"Did he just get a vaccine?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1050.0,"score_ratio":14.5}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7q8y6x","c_root_id_B":"g7qhb9g","created_at_utc_A":1601849629,"created_at_utc_B":1601854445,"score_A":9,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry I have no clue!  I hope you find an answer from your vet after some tests, this sounds unbearable! Poor pup.","human_ref_B":"- What color and how moist are his gums?  - When did he last eat? Last poop?  - Do you live in an area with foxtails?  - Does he react when you pet him on a specific part of his body or with a certain pressure?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4816.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"j56irx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Puppy randomly screaming in pain We have a 13 week old labradoodle, he\u2019s been with us 3 weeks. We\u2019re in Germany. All going well, usually puppy stuff. Until yesterday.   We went out for a small walk, then we started toweling him off a little as he was so wet. He tries to bite the towel, so far so normal. Anyways, out of nowhere, he started screaming a banshee, and ran away from us, he looked blind with pain, he ran so fast he fell down the two garden steps and sat on the yawn crouched and screaming. We were in complete shock, thought that maybe my OH had stepped on him or something. It took a while to calm him but he seemed ok for a few hours, did a lot of sleeping. He was wagging his tail though and took some treats. About 6 hours later he was sitting on his sofa playing with a toy and I was rubbing him gently, anyways same again sudden screech and he ran from the room tail between his legs back to his crate. It\u2019s like a blind panic, he\u2019d run into a wall, it\u2019s real fight or flight.   Today we were super cautious only a tiny walk. He\u2019s eating his meals as normal. He was unusually cuddly today but otherwise seemed back to himself. Just two minutes ago though again same thing except this time no one was touching him, he had a toy again. Again I was sitting beside him and now he\u2019s refusing to come near me or look at me.   We\u2019ll be heading to the vet first thing in the morning but does anyone have any idea? I don\u2019t know how worried we should be. We did some googling and mostly it talks about vaccines (he had his second shot since we\u2019ve had him on Thursday, not sure exactly which) and sore spots but this recent time no one was touching him. As he had a toy my OH thinks maybe there\u2019s a problem with his teeth or he\u2019s biting his tongue or something but I find that hard to believe because then I think he wouldn\u2019t be eating meals and playing as normal. The toys squeak but that normally doesn\u2019t bother him so it\u2019s not a fright from that. I actually feel physically sick with worry. I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s pain or a fright or both or neither, once my OH calmed him a little he crouched down real small, tail between legs and but himself back into the box right at the back and he hasn\u2019t moved since.  It just seems so random. Different locations, different situations, different toys, different people.","c_root_id_A":"g7qdvi9","c_root_id_B":"g7qhb9g","created_at_utc_A":1601852415,"created_at_utc_B":1601854445,"score_A":5,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d suggest that any demeanor that indicates a pain reaction in an animal should be seen by a licensed veterinarian.   What if a Redditor can prove that they are a DVM or LVT?  Would these professionals be able to help with a suggested differential diagnosis ?  I suppose it\u2019s in the sub rules..","human_ref_B":"- What color and how moist are his gums?  - When did he last eat? Last poop?  - Do you live in an area with foxtails?  - Does he react when you pet him on a specific part of his body or with a certain pressure?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2030.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"nm6bab","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Upcoming feline spay, why is pain medication optional? When I booked her appointment, I had the option to add \"post op pain medication\". I did, because it seems inhumane not to. My parents had a dog neutered and cat spayed at a different clinic in our area this year. Same question and they also chose it. Why is this? If you decide you don't want to pay for it, do they give the animal any pain relief at all? How much do they suffer, if that's the case? It's bothering me to think that there are people who won't pay the extra 10-20 bucks and the poor dog or cat will be in terrible pain, and that maybe this is standard procedure in shelters.  Also, I'm being charged extra for \"supportive care\" because she had kittens on April 6th. I want her to have what she needs, but I'm curious about what this is and why she needs it. Last question, do I need to keep her kittens away from her while she recovers? They are still nursing daily but mostly have dry kitten food, wet food, the occasional scrambled egg or can of tuna, and drinking plenty of water. I read that they still lactate after being spayed. If they try nursing after her surgery, won't that mess with her incision? Should I just wait a little longer? Male cats have access to her, as we live in a rural area and she prefers to sleep and stay outside.","c_root_id_A":"gzn5l6e","c_root_id_B":"gzneg08","created_at_utc_A":1622127258,"created_at_utc_B":1622131025,"score_A":11,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"So, I\u2019m not a vet, but ever foster situation I know that takes rescued pregnant cats or rescued cats with young kittens will wait until the kittens are weaned and completely on solid food before taking the mother in for a spay (unless there is a medical issue that makes an early spay necessary and then she is usually separated from the kittens).   I definitely agree with the previous post saying that you should really talk to your vet about these questions though.  Most vets are happy to have a short conversation with you about your pets so I strongly advise calling them. You may have to schedule the call, depending on how busy they are, but it\u2019s a really good idea.","human_ref_B":"Making pain meds optional is an antiquated practice that should be discontinued. You are 100% correct, it is inhumane not to give them. Ask any woman who has had a cesarean section or a hysterectomy how she would have liked going through those procedures without pain control.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3767.0,"score_ratio":5.2727272727}
{"post_id":"nm6bab","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Upcoming feline spay, why is pain medication optional? When I booked her appointment, I had the option to add \"post op pain medication\". I did, because it seems inhumane not to. My parents had a dog neutered and cat spayed at a different clinic in our area this year. Same question and they also chose it. Why is this? If you decide you don't want to pay for it, do they give the animal any pain relief at all? How much do they suffer, if that's the case? It's bothering me to think that there are people who won't pay the extra 10-20 bucks and the poor dog or cat will be in terrible pain, and that maybe this is standard procedure in shelters.  Also, I'm being charged extra for \"supportive care\" because she had kittens on April 6th. I want her to have what she needs, but I'm curious about what this is and why she needs it. Last question, do I need to keep her kittens away from her while she recovers? They are still nursing daily but mostly have dry kitten food, wet food, the occasional scrambled egg or can of tuna, and drinking plenty of water. I read that they still lactate after being spayed. If they try nursing after her surgery, won't that mess with her incision? Should I just wait a little longer? Male cats have access to her, as we live in a rural area and she prefers to sleep and stay outside.","c_root_id_A":"gznkivl","c_root_id_B":"gzn5l6e","created_at_utc_A":1622133635,"created_at_utc_B":1622127258,"score_A":24,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Vet assistant here At my clinic we have paperwork for all of our surgeries that ask if the owner would like post-op pain relief for their pet. We don't ask it, it isn't optional, but it's still on our paperwork. \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffc\u200d\u2640\ufe0f It's definitely antiquated and I'd guess some places just don't change their forms, cuz I know my place definitely doesn't\ud83d\ude43","human_ref_B":"So, I\u2019m not a vet, but ever foster situation I know that takes rescued pregnant cats or rescued cats with young kittens will wait until the kittens are weaned and completely on solid food before taking the mother in for a spay (unless there is a medical issue that makes an early spay necessary and then she is usually separated from the kittens).   I definitely agree with the previous post saying that you should really talk to your vet about these questions though.  Most vets are happy to have a short conversation with you about your pets so I strongly advise calling them. You may have to schedule the call, depending on how busy they are, but it\u2019s a really good idea.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6377.0,"score_ratio":2.1818181818}
{"post_id":"nm6bab","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Upcoming feline spay, why is pain medication optional? When I booked her appointment, I had the option to add \"post op pain medication\". I did, because it seems inhumane not to. My parents had a dog neutered and cat spayed at a different clinic in our area this year. Same question and they also chose it. Why is this? If you decide you don't want to pay for it, do they give the animal any pain relief at all? How much do they suffer, if that's the case? It's bothering me to think that there are people who won't pay the extra 10-20 bucks and the poor dog or cat will be in terrible pain, and that maybe this is standard procedure in shelters.  Also, I'm being charged extra for \"supportive care\" because she had kittens on April 6th. I want her to have what she needs, but I'm curious about what this is and why she needs it. Last question, do I need to keep her kittens away from her while she recovers? They are still nursing daily but mostly have dry kitten food, wet food, the occasional scrambled egg or can of tuna, and drinking plenty of water. I read that they still lactate after being spayed. If they try nursing after her surgery, won't that mess with her incision? Should I just wait a little longer? Male cats have access to her, as we live in a rural area and she prefers to sleep and stay outside.","c_root_id_A":"gzorly9","c_root_id_B":"gzoqt5m","created_at_utc_A":1622152168,"created_at_utc_B":1622151800,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes there are people who won\u2019t spend the extra money on pain medication if given the option. Spay & neuter clinics and shelters are non-profits and are providing a low cost and sometimes free service to the community. Some of the people who utilize them cannot pay for pain meds and the clinic can\u2019t afford to front the cost. You could argue that it is inhumane to provide the service to those who won\u2019t pay for the meds and you wouldn\u2019t necessarily be wrong,  but it\u2019s complicated and shelter medicine is different from private practice.","human_ref_B":"At the clinic I work at, post op pain meds is optional only because they already go home with pain meds (and depending on the surgeon, are either started that evening or the morning after) so the injectable we offer would at least get them through the next 8-12 hours, especially if the surgeon\u2019s protocol is to start the take-home pain control the next morning. This optional injectable pain control costs anywhere from $40-$80 additional so we\u2019d rather that be declined than for a pet to have a spay or neuter cancelled by the owner due to limited funds \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2640\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":368.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"nm6bab","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Upcoming feline spay, why is pain medication optional? When I booked her appointment, I had the option to add \"post op pain medication\". I did, because it seems inhumane not to. My parents had a dog neutered and cat spayed at a different clinic in our area this year. Same question and they also chose it. Why is this? If you decide you don't want to pay for it, do they give the animal any pain relief at all? How much do they suffer, if that's the case? It's bothering me to think that there are people who won't pay the extra 10-20 bucks and the poor dog or cat will be in terrible pain, and that maybe this is standard procedure in shelters.  Also, I'm being charged extra for \"supportive care\" because she had kittens on April 6th. I want her to have what she needs, but I'm curious about what this is and why she needs it. Last question, do I need to keep her kittens away from her while she recovers? They are still nursing daily but mostly have dry kitten food, wet food, the occasional scrambled egg or can of tuna, and drinking plenty of water. I read that they still lactate after being spayed. If they try nursing after her surgery, won't that mess with her incision? Should I just wait a little longer? Male cats have access to her, as we live in a rural area and she prefers to sleep and stay outside.","c_root_id_A":"gzoqt5m","c_root_id_B":"gzow1yq","created_at_utc_A":1622151800,"created_at_utc_B":1622154268,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"At the clinic I work at, post op pain meds is optional only because they already go home with pain meds (and depending on the surgeon, are either started that evening or the morning after) so the injectable we offer would at least get them through the next 8-12 hours, especially if the surgeon\u2019s protocol is to start the take-home pain control the next morning. This optional injectable pain control costs anywhere from $40-$80 additional so we\u2019d rather that be declined than for a pet to have a spay or neuter cancelled by the owner due to limited funds \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2640\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"It will be a longer and more complicated spay surgery so that's why it's extra. As for the pain control, this is pretty common because owners often decline any \"extras\" due to cost. Surely most cats will tolerate the pain as they are very stoic animals, however like you said it's very much a philosophy question. You get what you pay for when you go to a low cost clinic. The goal like you said is population control, and reducing suffering in the long term by making some smaller sacrifices in the short term.  If you can afford it I would go to a regular clinic. There the staff is being paid appropriately for their time and your kitty will get more one on one attention. That extra level of attention is just not feasible when you are doing many cats at once and the goal is speed and volume.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2468.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"nm6bab","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Upcoming feline spay, why is pain medication optional? When I booked her appointment, I had the option to add \"post op pain medication\". I did, because it seems inhumane not to. My parents had a dog neutered and cat spayed at a different clinic in our area this year. Same question and they also chose it. Why is this? If you decide you don't want to pay for it, do they give the animal any pain relief at all? How much do they suffer, if that's the case? It's bothering me to think that there are people who won't pay the extra 10-20 bucks and the poor dog or cat will be in terrible pain, and that maybe this is standard procedure in shelters.  Also, I'm being charged extra for \"supportive care\" because she had kittens on April 6th. I want her to have what she needs, but I'm curious about what this is and why she needs it. Last question, do I need to keep her kittens away from her while she recovers? They are still nursing daily but mostly have dry kitten food, wet food, the occasional scrambled egg or can of tuna, and drinking plenty of water. I read that they still lactate after being spayed. If they try nursing after her surgery, won't that mess with her incision? Should I just wait a little longer? Male cats have access to her, as we live in a rural area and she prefers to sleep and stay outside.","c_root_id_A":"gzow1yq","c_root_id_B":"gzou38r","created_at_utc_A":1622154268,"created_at_utc_B":1622153317,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It will be a longer and more complicated spay surgery so that's why it's extra. As for the pain control, this is pretty common because owners often decline any \"extras\" due to cost. Surely most cats will tolerate the pain as they are very stoic animals, however like you said it's very much a philosophy question. You get what you pay for when you go to a low cost clinic. The goal like you said is population control, and reducing suffering in the long term by making some smaller sacrifices in the short term.  If you can afford it I would go to a regular clinic. There the staff is being paid appropriately for their time and your kitty will get more one on one attention. That extra level of attention is just not feasible when you are doing many cats at once and the goal is speed and volume.","human_ref_B":"Do you have a regular vet that you use for vaccines, annual checkups, illnesses and concerns? If not, that\u2019s something you should look into right away... I totally understand why you want to use a spay\/neuter clinic and they are GREAT for cutting down on the cat overpopulation problem AND doing it affordably! But you should also have a continuous relationship with a vet so that you can ask questions and they can address your concerns as they specifically relate to YOUR pet. Your regular vet should absolutely understand your decision to use the spay\/neuter clinic to cut down on costs... we all have to save where we can! So don\u2019t avoid discussing her aftercare with your regular vet just because you didn\u2019t have her spayed there. Spay\/neuter clinics are usually bare-bones operations - they do one thing and one thing only: sterilize animals. They do it efficiently and affordably, but they do not usually provide aftercare for complications so definitely plan on using your regular vet if you have any concerns post-spay.  Pain meds should never be optional. If this is a spay\/neuter clinic, they probably get a lot of people who have trapped feral cats just to get them fixed and then release them. For every spay\/neuter at my clinic the pet is given a pain relief injection during the surgery that lasts varying amounts of time. That might be why they ask if you want extended pain meds. And the answer should always be YES, you ABSOLUTELY do!  Another thing that sometimes happens in rescues and people who care for feral colonies, the owners\/people in charge of the rescue have a relationship with a vet who gets their medications in bulk for cheaper. In those cases, the owner\/rescuer would already have access to pain meds and not need a fresh prescription.   As for the \u201csupportive care\u201d charge, it is absolutely more complicated to spay a recently pregnant cat or one who\u2019s in heat - and yours might be both by the time of her appointment! Everything is swollen and recovering from the trauma of giving birth. Pregnancy, labor, and delivery are just that - TRAUMA on the body. Organs get shifted around, change places, shapes, and sizes to make room for the babies... Every vet I\u2019ve worked with charges extra for cats in heat or cats who\u2019ve recently given birth - that\u2019s very standard and absolutely warranted.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":951.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mb2lwx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog with Megaesophagus jumps to make himself throw up My 2 yr labradoodle has megaesophagus, he eats upright in a bailey chair on a pure liquid diet. He eats primal raw and we blend it up in a blender with just water and a bit of goat milk. He used to be on a kibble diet when we got him but the regurgitation was so bad that he would end up losing too much bodyweight to the point that a number of vets advised us to put him down. One vet said just put him down now, he won't make it through the night. In our stubbornness to keep him alive, we found that he was able to keep a liquid diet down far easier and was able to put back on weight. For two days after the second vet told us to put him down, we put him on an all goat milk diet and he sprang back like a champ. At his lowest he got was around 7 lbs but now he's in the low teens. https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/nBHf1tZ.jpeg  It took a while to figure out how to properly feed him and he is constantly scrounging the kitchen floors or the area where the kids snack and watch tv for anything he can get in his belly. He's like a horse, doesn't know when to stop eating. During that time he picked up a habit of jumping that made him regurgitate, where he licks it up and tries to jump again. For the past few months he's gotten a lot better where he'd jump less and less and regurgitated less and less. He went from throwing up 5+ times a day to once every day or two.  I think if I can get him to stop jumping and to somehow satisfy his appetite, I can get him in a better place but Im at a loss as to what my options are. When he's bad, it's really bad. It got so bad that we had to get rid of our carpets due to all the stains. Though that was a blessing in disguise as we needed a reason to get rid of the carpet anyways. Just seeing if anyone has any ideas on how to help. Thanks","c_root_id_A":"grw085f","c_root_id_B":"grvqkl6","created_at_utc_A":1616468935,"created_at_utc_B":1616463747,"score_A":99,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"You need to make an appointment with a vet to address these concerns. To be honest what you are describing doesn't sound like a dog with a great quality of life. Dogs with megaesophagus may or may not improve depending on if it is primary or secondary and they require a lot of time, money, vet visits, commitment and specialized care. You need to be sure that you are up for providing him with that.","human_ref_B":"Do you have x rays or medical info you could post? There\u2019s a lot to unpack here.  Edit: rad report, lab results, dr notes, etc","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5188.0,"score_ratio":2.8285714286}
{"post_id":"mb2lwx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog with Megaesophagus jumps to make himself throw up My 2 yr labradoodle has megaesophagus, he eats upright in a bailey chair on a pure liquid diet. He eats primal raw and we blend it up in a blender with just water and a bit of goat milk. He used to be on a kibble diet when we got him but the regurgitation was so bad that he would end up losing too much bodyweight to the point that a number of vets advised us to put him down. One vet said just put him down now, he won't make it through the night. In our stubbornness to keep him alive, we found that he was able to keep a liquid diet down far easier and was able to put back on weight. For two days after the second vet told us to put him down, we put him on an all goat milk diet and he sprang back like a champ. At his lowest he got was around 7 lbs but now he's in the low teens. https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/nBHf1tZ.jpeg  It took a while to figure out how to properly feed him and he is constantly scrounging the kitchen floors or the area where the kids snack and watch tv for anything he can get in his belly. He's like a horse, doesn't know when to stop eating. During that time he picked up a habit of jumping that made him regurgitate, where he licks it up and tries to jump again. For the past few months he's gotten a lot better where he'd jump less and less and regurgitated less and less. He went from throwing up 5+ times a day to once every day or two.  I think if I can get him to stop jumping and to somehow satisfy his appetite, I can get him in a better place but Im at a loss as to what my options are. When he's bad, it's really bad. It got so bad that we had to get rid of our carpets due to all the stains. Though that was a blessing in disguise as we needed a reason to get rid of the carpet anyways. Just seeing if anyone has any ideas on how to help. Thanks","c_root_id_A":"grw007n","c_root_id_B":"grw085f","created_at_utc_A":1616468812,"created_at_utc_B":1616468935,"score_A":21,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"Any current medications? Is a vet currently managing the condition?","human_ref_B":"You need to make an appointment with a vet to address these concerns. To be honest what you are describing doesn't sound like a dog with a great quality of life. Dogs with megaesophagus may or may not improve depending on if it is primary or secondary and they require a lot of time, money, vet visits, commitment and specialized care. You need to be sure that you are up for providing him with that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":123.0,"score_ratio":4.7142857143}
{"post_id":"gz9idi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic\/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!","c_root_id_A":"ftfdy3r","c_root_id_B":"ftfgd9n","created_at_utc_A":1591662952,"created_at_utc_B":1591664342,"score_A":42,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Did your vet see the crystals and put it under a microscope? If not, I recommend you place some in a ziploc to take to the vet to view.   I've never heard of this in a kitten this age. Usually crystals are so tiny that you have to view them under a microscope. But if your vet viewed it and said that's what it is, then they're likely correct.   There are a few other things that it might be, which is why I say bring in a sample to your vet. It's possible there is more than one thing going on.","human_ref_B":"I agree with your vet in that urinary crystals are very rare in kittens, it is usually seen in older male cats. I have never heard or seen them in kittens in practice before so yours is definitely a unique case! Best advice I can give you is call your vet with your findings and voice your concern. They will know how best to proceed and if she needs to go in sooner than 2 weeks. If you're not content with their answer, you can always seek a second opinion from a different vet although that would require bringing her in for another separate exam and probably more testing. I hope the issue your little furbaby has resolves soon!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1390.0,"score_ratio":1.2619047619}
{"post_id":"gz9idi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic\/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!","c_root_id_A":"ftg3uov","c_root_id_B":"ftfz6g5","created_at_utc_A":1591679183,"created_at_utc_B":1591675764,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"One thing you can do in the meantime is encourage kitty to stay hydrated. If she\u2019s not much of a water drinker, try setting out a different glass or bowl\u2014sometimes that will help. A fountain is great. Use wet food at least part of the time if possible.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3419.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"gz9idi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic\/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!","c_root_id_A":"ftg70oz","c_root_id_B":"ftfz6g5","created_at_utc_A":1591681678,"created_at_utc_B":1591675764,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"What is the kidney test that you are referring to? Are we talking about a urinalysis +\/- bloodwork? Or did you vet do some sort of imaging of the abdomen (xray or ultrasound)? I wonder if you meant to say that you cat has three *stones* in her bladder? You are welcome to post any lab tests here for us to review. If they did a urinalysis we should know the type of crystal that is present, and sometimes that can help is determining the cause.  As others have said you may wish to request referral to an internal medicine specialist. This is uncommon in kittens so further investigation may be warranted. The stones themselves take some nuance to manage, but some types of stones\/crystals can result from an underlying disease that may need to be sought out.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5914.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo50vs0","c_root_id_B":"fo4zsqv","created_at_utc_A":1587515128,"created_at_utc_B":1587514490,"score_A":94,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Depression in a puppy is more than enough cause for an immediate, emergency vet visit.","human_ref_B":"People need a lot more information to provide any help. Please take him to the vet if you are worried.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":638.0,"score_ratio":2.8484848485}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo50vs0","c_root_id_B":"fo4lmt8","created_at_utc_A":1587515128,"created_at_utc_B":1587506653,"score_A":94,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Depression in a puppy is more than enough cause for an immediate, emergency vet visit.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8475.0,"score_ratio":31.3333333333}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo52fmb","c_root_id_B":"fo4zsqv","created_at_utc_A":1587516062,"created_at_utc_B":1587514490,"score_A":34,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Sorry, but it would be best to get him to a vet so they can examine him and see if theres any underlying issues.","human_ref_B":"People need a lot more information to provide any help. Please take him to the vet if you are worried.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1572.0,"score_ratio":1.0303030303}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo4lmt8","c_root_id_B":"fo52fmb","created_at_utc_A":1587506653,"created_at_utc_B":1587516062,"score_A":3,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Sorry, but it would be best to get him to a vet so they can examine him and see if theres any underlying issues.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9409.0,"score_ratio":11.3333333333}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo4zsqv","c_root_id_B":"fo4lmt8","created_at_utc_A":1587514490,"created_at_utc_B":1587506653,"score_A":33,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"People need a lot more information to provide any help. Please take him to the vet if you are worried.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7837.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo57oj8","c_root_id_B":"fo547db","created_at_utc_A":1587519300,"created_at_utc_B":1587517141,"score_A":29,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"[Not a vet. But many, many vets\/vet techs in my family\/personal life, plus 15+ years of personal experience]   I know you've stated you are not in a city with vet services, and I also saw you state your location as Brazil. I also understand the struggles of bringing an animal inside under your circumstances. But his life could also be at stake. There are so many underlying illnesses and diseases that come from the outside. You absolutely need to do everything in your power to get him to a vet, even if it's traveling outside your city. If you take him to the right place, you won't have to return often.  I don't recommend giving him any sort of dewormer if you're going to make a trip to a vet. A vet seeing him would have the best recommendation for his specific condition. I would check him for fleas though, and give him a bath if you haven't already. Dawn dish soap kills fleas on contact, and is generally safe for animals, but please use your own discretion. It's always good to test in a small area, in case of a reaction.  Make sure you're leaving a bowl of water for him at all times.","human_ref_B":"Hi! Puppies should not walk in public or be on the ground in public until they have completely done all of their vaccines. Specifically DHPP (parvo & distemper). Parvo is a deadly disease and usually they are lethargic, vomiting, bloody diarrhea and not eating. Keep an eye out! Better to visit a veterinarian asap just in case. Parasites also can be a big deal in puppies if not treated :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2159.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo571jx","c_root_id_B":"fo57oj8","created_at_utc_A":1587518903,"created_at_utc_B":1587519300,"score_A":7,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Is that rice you're feeding him?","human_ref_B":"[Not a vet. But many, many vets\/vet techs in my family\/personal life, plus 15+ years of personal experience]   I know you've stated you are not in a city with vet services, and I also saw you state your location as Brazil. I also understand the struggles of bringing an animal inside under your circumstances. But his life could also be at stake. There are so many underlying illnesses and diseases that come from the outside. You absolutely need to do everything in your power to get him to a vet, even if it's traveling outside your city. If you take him to the right place, you won't have to return often.  I don't recommend giving him any sort of dewormer if you're going to make a trip to a vet. A vet seeing him would have the best recommendation for his specific condition. I would check him for fleas though, and give him a bath if you haven't already. Dawn dish soap kills fleas on contact, and is generally safe for animals, but please use your own discretion. It's always good to test in a small area, in case of a reaction.  Make sure you're leaving a bowl of water for him at all times.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":397.0,"score_ratio":4.1428571429}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo57oj8","c_root_id_B":"fo4lmt8","created_at_utc_A":1587519300,"created_at_utc_B":1587506653,"score_A":29,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"[Not a vet. But many, many vets\/vet techs in my family\/personal life, plus 15+ years of personal experience]   I know you've stated you are not in a city with vet services, and I also saw you state your location as Brazil. I also understand the struggles of bringing an animal inside under your circumstances. But his life could also be at stake. There are so many underlying illnesses and diseases that come from the outside. You absolutely need to do everything in your power to get him to a vet, even if it's traveling outside your city. If you take him to the right place, you won't have to return often.  I don't recommend giving him any sort of dewormer if you're going to make a trip to a vet. A vet seeing him would have the best recommendation for his specific condition. I would check him for fleas though, and give him a bath if you haven't already. Dawn dish soap kills fleas on contact, and is generally safe for animals, but please use your own discretion. It's always good to test in a small area, in case of a reaction.  Make sure you're leaving a bowl of water for him at all times.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12647.0,"score_ratio":9.6666666667}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo4lmt8","c_root_id_B":"fo547db","created_at_utc_A":1587506653,"created_at_utc_B":1587517141,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Hi! Puppies should not walk in public or be on the ground in public until they have completely done all of their vaccines. Specifically DHPP (parvo & distemper). Parvo is a deadly disease and usually they are lethargic, vomiting, bloody diarrhea and not eating. Keep an eye out! Better to visit a veterinarian asap just in case. Parasites also can be a big deal in puppies if not treated :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10488.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"g5orsx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Adopted a dog today, 2 months old, low weight imo. Have already eaten but did not drink any water. How could i him gain some weight? And could i take him for walks? Probably not but he is so sad that i thought it could be a option. Idk. Photo: https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/wCpidPp","c_root_id_A":"fo571jx","c_root_id_B":"fo4lmt8","created_at_utc_A":1587518903,"created_at_utc_B":1587506653,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is that rice you're feeding him?","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12250.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"duq9i4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Our kitten swallowed string. I stupidly pulled it out of her from her mouth before reading guidance on what to do. This was about four hours ago. She seems fine now. Do I need to take her to our vets? Species: Cat  Age: 6 months  Sex\/Neuter status: Female  Breed: Domestic Shorthair  Body weight: 2.4kg  History: Unrelated (healthy)  Clinical signs: Swallowed string; none since  Duration: hours  Your general location: UK  Hello, thank you for reading. At about 6am this morning I woke up to my kitten on my bed making weird noises, when I turned the light on I saw she had swallowed some string connected to a toy of hers we normally keep out of her reach when we're not playing with her. Alarmed, I soothed her and gently pulled it out of her mouth (I realise now I shouldn't have done this, I am sorry, it was instinct as I didn't know any better. I've obviously done a lot of reading now and know I shouldn't have done that, but what's done is done).  It came out very easily, no snagging or tugging at all, one slow, steady motion. It was probably between half a foot and a foot long. She was obviously marginally distressed at the time, but within about five minutes was purring again and back to her playful self. She hasn't vomited and has eaten her breakfast just fine. She seems fine.  Is there a high risk that she will have a gastrointestinal obstruction? Do we need to take her to the vet preemptively? Or is it a \"wait and see\" issue?  Thanks so much.  (Also yes, we will be much more careful about where we leave toys unsupervised in the future!)","c_root_id_A":"f77qbtw","c_root_id_B":"f77s96u","created_at_utc_A":1573470824,"created_at_utc_B":1573473561,"score_A":24,"score_B":67,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but some family is in the veterinarian world.  Cats are very good at hiding their issues. They will act like everything is fine to the very end. I'm not saying that is what your cat is doing, it's just a fact I'm stating. You might want to get her checked out to be safe.","human_ref_B":"Vet nurse here - it's good she seems fine, and it's good the string came out cleanly, without snagging. However it's possible some broke off the end and is still in her. Keep a close eye on her - if you see her retching or vomiting, having toileting issues, or just doesn't seem herself (maybe lethargic or seems like she's in pain) then definitely take her to the vet.   Of course, there's certainly no harm in taking her for a visit anyway just to double check all is good.  Fingers crossed for your kitty to be string free!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2737.0,"score_ratio":2.7916666667}
{"post_id":"cmkwe0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A duck next to work is sitting on (likely) infertile eggs So a duck that everyone at my place of work has grown a liking to has nested up and been sitting on some eggs that are likely infertile. According to the handy-dandy internet duck eggs typically hatch in 28 days, but this duck has been sitting on these 6 eggs for 9 weeks, over double the average time! This poor girl has been losing weight and is sitting on the eggs (almost) around the clock.   Everyone at work has expressed concerns for the ducks health and a debate has started as to whether or not her eggs should be discarded so she can move on. I\u2019d like some professional help to see what may be best. Should we interfere in attempts to help the duck or should we let nature run its course in this case?  Thanks in advance for any help","c_root_id_A":"ew34qt2","c_root_id_B":"ew3a5sg","created_at_utc_A":1565064151,"created_at_utc_B":1565069612,"score_A":29,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"Theres a wildlife rehab sub that may be able to offer some advice. Note: I am not a vet, I just lurk on here and the wildlife rehab subs","human_ref_B":"I have ducks, remove the eggs or she won't eat as much as she should the eggs will just rot. This just happened to me last month and they put time taking care of the eggs instead of themselves Edit: not a vet and not a professional, but I did get this advice from a wildlife rescue.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5461.0,"score_ratio":3.4137931034}
{"post_id":"cmkwe0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"A duck next to work is sitting on (likely) infertile eggs So a duck that everyone at my place of work has grown a liking to has nested up and been sitting on some eggs that are likely infertile. According to the handy-dandy internet duck eggs typically hatch in 28 days, but this duck has been sitting on these 6 eggs for 9 weeks, over double the average time! This poor girl has been losing weight and is sitting on the eggs (almost) around the clock.   Everyone at work has expressed concerns for the ducks health and a debate has started as to whether or not her eggs should be discarded so she can move on. I\u2019d like some professional help to see what may be best. Should we interfere in attempts to help the duck or should we let nature run its course in this case?  Thanks in advance for any help","c_root_id_A":"ew3a5sg","c_root_id_B":"ew37gnk","created_at_utc_A":1565069612,"created_at_utc_B":1565066761,"score_A":99,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I have ducks, remove the eggs or she won't eat as much as she should the eggs will just rot. This just happened to me last month and they put time taking care of the eggs instead of themselves Edit: not a vet and not a professional, but I did get this advice from a wildlife rescue.","human_ref_B":"Me too- not a vet......ask your questions on the subReddit r\/homestead. There are lotsa duck people there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2851.0,"score_ratio":8.25}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icctxzn","c_root_id_B":"iccqcvj","created_at_utc_A":1655229464,"created_at_utc_B":1655228005,"score_A":131,"score_B":100,"human_ref_A":"To add to what u\/Distend wrote, your general practice vet is like your family primary care physician. If you were having a heart attack, you wouldn't call up your PCP's office and say \"Doc, I'm having chest pains and trouble breathing. I've been your patient for 25 years, you have to see me right now!\" You would call an ambulance and get yourself to the nearest ER that can see you.","human_ref_B":"YTA. Your clinic clearly couldn't accommodate a true emergency like that at the time and gave you very viable options. You don't know what else was going on for them to have to tell you know, but you can bet it was pretty freaking bad to turn away a saddle thrombus. Consider how bad\/difficult things must be there for the staff to have to say no to one of the worst types of emergencies. No one cares that you've been a client for 25 years - every single pet deserves the exact same respect and care. Your cat isn't any more special than anyone else's pet just because you've been there longer. I hope I could give you some perspective. We HATE turning away emergencies, but if we do, it's because we literally do not have the staff or time to help. It would do NOTHING to bring your cat to a hospital that can't handle it at the time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1459.0,"score_ratio":1.31}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"iccqcvj","c_root_id_B":"icebjjr","created_at_utc_A":1655228005,"created_at_utc_B":1655253412,"score_A":100,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"YTA. Your clinic clearly couldn't accommodate a true emergency like that at the time and gave you very viable options. You don't know what else was going on for them to have to tell you know, but you can bet it was pretty freaking bad to turn away a saddle thrombus. Consider how bad\/difficult things must be there for the staff to have to say no to one of the worst types of emergencies. No one cares that you've been a client for 25 years - every single pet deserves the exact same respect and care. Your cat isn't any more special than anyone else's pet just because you've been there longer. I hope I could give you some perspective. We HATE turning away emergencies, but if we do, it's because we literally do not have the staff or time to help. It would do NOTHING to bring your cat to a hospital that can't handle it at the time.","human_ref_B":"No one is \"the asshole\" in this unfortunate situation.  They are a general practice, not an emergency clinic, and the right place for your kitty was an emergency clinic.  I understand why you are upset. Your cat was experiencing a genuine emergency, and the most obvious way to help him was to get him to a vet ASAP. Your expectations were not unreasonable, but it is also not unreasonable that the clinic was up front with you that they were unable to help and recommend an emergency clinic.  How did your cat make out?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25407.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icebjjr","c_root_id_B":"iccvfa6","created_at_utc_A":1655253412,"created_at_utc_B":1655230066,"score_A":110,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"No one is \"the asshole\" in this unfortunate situation.  They are a general practice, not an emergency clinic, and the right place for your kitty was an emergency clinic.  I understand why you are upset. Your cat was experiencing a genuine emergency, and the most obvious way to help him was to get him to a vet ASAP. Your expectations were not unreasonable, but it is also not unreasonable that the clinic was up front with you that they were unable to help and recommend an emergency clinic.  How did your cat make out?","human_ref_B":"YTA. A cat breathing hard is an emergency. Recommending emergency level care is a reasonable thing to do. Emergency veterinarians are literally for emergencies.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23346.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"ice5803","c_root_id_B":"icebjjr","created_at_utc_A":1655250306,"created_at_utc_B":1655253412,"score_A":16,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but is your kitty okay?","human_ref_B":"No one is \"the asshole\" in this unfortunate situation.  They are a general practice, not an emergency clinic, and the right place for your kitty was an emergency clinic.  I understand why you are upset. Your cat was experiencing a genuine emergency, and the most obvious way to help him was to get him to a vet ASAP. Your expectations were not unreasonable, but it is also not unreasonable that the clinic was up front with you that they were unable to help and recommend an emergency clinic.  How did your cat make out?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3106.0,"score_ratio":6.875}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icebjjr","c_root_id_B":"icdrd74","created_at_utc_A":1655253412,"created_at_utc_B":1655243564,"score_A":110,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"No one is \"the asshole\" in this unfortunate situation.  They are a general practice, not an emergency clinic, and the right place for your kitty was an emergency clinic.  I understand why you are upset. Your cat was experiencing a genuine emergency, and the most obvious way to help him was to get him to a vet ASAP. Your expectations were not unreasonable, but it is also not unreasonable that the clinic was up front with you that they were unable to help and recommend an emergency clinic.  How did your cat make out?","human_ref_B":"YTA. I understand the panic of going to your clinic, but you could have been the 5th emergency call that day and they simply had no time or space to fit you. I've had to turn people away. It sucks and they ALWAYS take it personally \ud83d\ude15","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9848.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icdcs4l","c_root_id_B":"icebjjr","created_at_utc_A":1655237254,"created_at_utc_B":1655253412,"score_A":7,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"I'd be a bit annoyed at them for not knowing the emergency vet they recommend wasn't even open, and not referring you to an open one, but no its not unreasonable for them to turn you away... That's exactly what emergency vets are for","human_ref_B":"No one is \"the asshole\" in this unfortunate situation.  They are a general practice, not an emergency clinic, and the right place for your kitty was an emergency clinic.  I understand why you are upset. Your cat was experiencing a genuine emergency, and the most obvious way to help him was to get him to a vet ASAP. Your expectations were not unreasonable, but it is also not unreasonable that the clinic was up front with you that they were unable to help and recommend an emergency clinic.  How did your cat make out?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16158.0,"score_ratio":15.7142857143}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"iccvfa6","c_root_id_B":"iceg0ty","created_at_utc_A":1655230066,"created_at_utc_B":1655255648,"score_A":40,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"YTA. A cat breathing hard is an emergency. Recommending emergency level care is a reasonable thing to do. Emergency veterinarians are literally for emergencies.","human_ref_B":"This mindset is the exact reason why good kind compassionate people are leaving the industry. Lack of understanding and education about the veterinary world. We don\u2019t care how long you have been a client; and how could you think you\u2019re better than anyone else who also needs immediate medical care for their pet? You have no idea why they had to turn you away, and I can promise you they didn\u2019t do it lightly. They could have a hit-by-car bleeding out, a surgery flatlining, or perhaps they are experiencing the same as every other hospital: they don\u2019t have enough staff to see more patients. They don\u2019t have enough doctors to support the clinic because they either quit the profession or they\u2019ve committed suicide from the severe client abuse we experience every day. I am truly so sorry that your pet experienced pain and I\u2019m sorry you were so stressed about your loved one. But please be kind to them. We care just as much about them as you, I promise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25582.0,"score_ratio":1.075}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"ice5803","c_root_id_B":"iceg0ty","created_at_utc_A":1655250306,"created_at_utc_B":1655255648,"score_A":16,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but is your kitty okay?","human_ref_B":"This mindset is the exact reason why good kind compassionate people are leaving the industry. Lack of understanding and education about the veterinary world. We don\u2019t care how long you have been a client; and how could you think you\u2019re better than anyone else who also needs immediate medical care for their pet? You have no idea why they had to turn you away, and I can promise you they didn\u2019t do it lightly. They could have a hit-by-car bleeding out, a surgery flatlining, or perhaps they are experiencing the same as every other hospital: they don\u2019t have enough staff to see more patients. They don\u2019t have enough doctors to support the clinic because they either quit the profession or they\u2019ve committed suicide from the severe client abuse we experience every day. I am truly so sorry that your pet experienced pain and I\u2019m sorry you were so stressed about your loved one. But please be kind to them. We care just as much about them as you, I promise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5342.0,"score_ratio":2.6875}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icdrd74","c_root_id_B":"iceg0ty","created_at_utc_A":1655243564,"created_at_utc_B":1655255648,"score_A":11,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"YTA. I understand the panic of going to your clinic, but you could have been the 5th emergency call that day and they simply had no time or space to fit you. I've had to turn people away. It sucks and they ALWAYS take it personally \ud83d\ude15","human_ref_B":"This mindset is the exact reason why good kind compassionate people are leaving the industry. Lack of understanding and education about the veterinary world. We don\u2019t care how long you have been a client; and how could you think you\u2019re better than anyone else who also needs immediate medical care for their pet? You have no idea why they had to turn you away, and I can promise you they didn\u2019t do it lightly. They could have a hit-by-car bleeding out, a surgery flatlining, or perhaps they are experiencing the same as every other hospital: they don\u2019t have enough staff to see more patients. They don\u2019t have enough doctors to support the clinic because they either quit the profession or they\u2019ve committed suicide from the severe client abuse we experience every day. I am truly so sorry that your pet experienced pain and I\u2019m sorry you were so stressed about your loved one. But please be kind to them. We care just as much about them as you, I promise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12084.0,"score_ratio":3.9090909091}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icdcs4l","c_root_id_B":"iceg0ty","created_at_utc_A":1655237254,"created_at_utc_B":1655255648,"score_A":7,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"I'd be a bit annoyed at them for not knowing the emergency vet they recommend wasn't even open, and not referring you to an open one, but no its not unreasonable for them to turn you away... That's exactly what emergency vets are for","human_ref_B":"This mindset is the exact reason why good kind compassionate people are leaving the industry. Lack of understanding and education about the veterinary world. We don\u2019t care how long you have been a client; and how could you think you\u2019re better than anyone else who also needs immediate medical care for their pet? You have no idea why they had to turn you away, and I can promise you they didn\u2019t do it lightly. They could have a hit-by-car bleeding out, a surgery flatlining, or perhaps they are experiencing the same as every other hospital: they don\u2019t have enough staff to see more patients. They don\u2019t have enough doctors to support the clinic because they either quit the profession or they\u2019ve committed suicide from the severe client abuse we experience every day. I am truly so sorry that your pet experienced pain and I\u2019m sorry you were so stressed about your loved one. But please be kind to them. We care just as much about them as you, I promise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18394.0,"score_ratio":6.1428571429}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icdrd74","c_root_id_B":"ice5803","created_at_utc_A":1655243564,"created_at_utc_B":1655250306,"score_A":11,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"YTA. I understand the panic of going to your clinic, but you could have been the 5th emergency call that day and they simply had no time or space to fit you. I've had to turn people away. It sucks and they ALWAYS take it personally \ud83d\ude15","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but is your kitty okay?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6742.0,"score_ratio":1.4545454545}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"ice5803","c_root_id_B":"icdcs4l","created_at_utc_A":1655250306,"created_at_utc_B":1655237254,"score_A":16,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but is your kitty okay?","human_ref_B":"I'd be a bit annoyed at them for not knowing the emergency vet they recommend wasn't even open, and not referring you to an open one, but no its not unreasonable for them to turn you away... That's exactly what emergency vets are for","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13052.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"iceuqua","c_root_id_B":"icdrd74","created_at_utc_A":1655263105,"created_at_utc_B":1655243564,"score_A":14,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I think it\u2019s actually safer for them to recommend another hospital if they don\u2019t feel that they would provide him with appropriate accommodation. If they had the only available doctor in surgery, were so overwhelmed with patients or other critical cases then I would much rather be recommended to go elsewhere that can give him the attention he needs, rather than be left waiting to be seen, have his exam rushed through, etc.   As noted above - every patient deserves adequate care. Not just clients with that have been seen for x number of years or who have spent whatever amount of money. There\u2019s no gold membership at a vet clinic.   In addition, having a pet with a serious condition like this you really should have a backup plan in place and be well aware of where emergency hospitals are located - and be aware that the bills are higher and have a plan in place for that as well. A certain credit card or savings in place for emergency vet bills. Had he had an episode like this after hours they\u2019d have been no help at all to even recommend another place.   I mean that with absolutely no judgement - it\u2019s a learning experience, and of course you just wanted quality care that you trust for your pet. But it\u2019s always good to regularly request to have his up to date records with you so you can provide them to the emergency vet when\/if needed and always be aware of what medications he\u2019s on and what for. Working emergency and having people know that he\u2019s on \u201ca little white pill\u201d and not even knowing what for helps no one.   Hoping that it all worked out well for you guys. Of course emotions run high during emergencies and you just want what\u2019s best for him. But it\u2019s definitely not that clinics fault, and it doesn\u2019t mean that they don\u2019t care.","human_ref_B":"YTA. I understand the panic of going to your clinic, but you could have been the 5th emergency call that day and they simply had no time or space to fit you. I've had to turn people away. It sucks and they ALWAYS take it personally \ud83d\ude15","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19541.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"iceuqua","c_root_id_B":"icdcs4l","created_at_utc_A":1655263105,"created_at_utc_B":1655237254,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I think it\u2019s actually safer for them to recommend another hospital if they don\u2019t feel that they would provide him with appropriate accommodation. If they had the only available doctor in surgery, were so overwhelmed with patients or other critical cases then I would much rather be recommended to go elsewhere that can give him the attention he needs, rather than be left waiting to be seen, have his exam rushed through, etc.   As noted above - every patient deserves adequate care. Not just clients with that have been seen for x number of years or who have spent whatever amount of money. There\u2019s no gold membership at a vet clinic.   In addition, having a pet with a serious condition like this you really should have a backup plan in place and be well aware of where emergency hospitals are located - and be aware that the bills are higher and have a plan in place for that as well. A certain credit card or savings in place for emergency vet bills. Had he had an episode like this after hours they\u2019d have been no help at all to even recommend another place.   I mean that with absolutely no judgement - it\u2019s a learning experience, and of course you just wanted quality care that you trust for your pet. But it\u2019s always good to regularly request to have his up to date records with you so you can provide them to the emergency vet when\/if needed and always be aware of what medications he\u2019s on and what for. Working emergency and having people know that he\u2019s on \u201ca little white pill\u201d and not even knowing what for helps no one.   Hoping that it all worked out well for you guys. Of course emotions run high during emergencies and you just want what\u2019s best for him. But it\u2019s definitely not that clinics fault, and it doesn\u2019t mean that they don\u2019t care.","human_ref_B":"I'd be a bit annoyed at them for not knowing the emergency vet they recommend wasn't even open, and not referring you to an open one, but no its not unreasonable for them to turn you away... That's exactly what emergency vets are for","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25851.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icegzv6","c_root_id_B":"iceuqua","created_at_utc_A":1655256129,"created_at_utc_B":1655263105,"score_A":5,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"It sounds to me like the receptionist didn't really understand the situation to suggest you wait until 8AM the next day. However, I don't think they were in the wrong for denying care. Vets are understaffed and overwhelmed, it's a huge deal to take on something like that. We regularly work through our lunches and don't get breaks so we can fit in as many patients as possible. We are burnt out and exhausted.   YTA if you tried to guilt them or make them feel bad for not fitting you in. Please bring cookies to apologize (you know, for sustenance since we don't have time to eat an actual meal).","human_ref_B":"I think it\u2019s actually safer for them to recommend another hospital if they don\u2019t feel that they would provide him with appropriate accommodation. If they had the only available doctor in surgery, were so overwhelmed with patients or other critical cases then I would much rather be recommended to go elsewhere that can give him the attention he needs, rather than be left waiting to be seen, have his exam rushed through, etc.   As noted above - every patient deserves adequate care. Not just clients with that have been seen for x number of years or who have spent whatever amount of money. There\u2019s no gold membership at a vet clinic.   In addition, having a pet with a serious condition like this you really should have a backup plan in place and be well aware of where emergency hospitals are located - and be aware that the bills are higher and have a plan in place for that as well. A certain credit card or savings in place for emergency vet bills. Had he had an episode like this after hours they\u2019d have been no help at all to even recommend another place.   I mean that with absolutely no judgement - it\u2019s a learning experience, and of course you just wanted quality care that you trust for your pet. But it\u2019s always good to regularly request to have his up to date records with you so you can provide them to the emergency vet when\/if needed and always be aware of what medications he\u2019s on and what for. Working emergency and having people know that he\u2019s on \u201ca little white pill\u201d and not even knowing what for helps no one.   Hoping that it all worked out well for you guys. Of course emotions run high during emergencies and you just want what\u2019s best for him. But it\u2019s definitely not that clinics fault, and it doesn\u2019t mean that they don\u2019t care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6976.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"vc7ymo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"AITA A couple of weeks ago, I found my heart disease kitty in distress. Respirations were high, rear legs were painful and weak, fearful meowing. I knew from past experiences with him that he had thrown a clot and had a partial saddle thrombus.   It was 3 in the afternoon. I scooped him into a carrier and hit the road. Called my vet office (been a client there for over 25 years).  They refused to see him. Told me I could drop him off at 8 the next morning to be worked into the schedule or I could drive him an hour away to the 24 hour emergency vet. The local emergency vet they recommend wouldn\u2019t be open for 3 more hours.   So my choices were to leave my cat in pain for an hour, 3 hours, or 17 hours.   My husband searched for another emergency vet and found one that took him in immediately and got his pain under control while we assessed the problem.   I\u2019m livid that my vet office wouldn\u2019t see him and left him in pain. Am I the asshole though?  Am I being unreasonable that I expected them to see him and that I expected them to be concerned about pain?","c_root_id_A":"icdcs4l","c_root_id_B":"icdrd74","created_at_utc_A":1655237254,"created_at_utc_B":1655243564,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'd be a bit annoyed at them for not knowing the emergency vet they recommend wasn't even open, and not referring you to an open one, but no its not unreasonable for them to turn you away... That's exactly what emergency vets are for","human_ref_B":"YTA. I understand the panic of going to your clinic, but you could have been the 5th emergency call that day and they simply had no time or space to fit you. I've had to turn people away. It sucks and they ALWAYS take it personally \ud83d\ude15","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6310.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"rkx4u7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.72,"history":"My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"hpdgsvm","c_root_id_B":"hpdcn68","created_at_utc_A":1640053007,"created_at_utc_B":1640051100,"score_A":177,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"This has already been answered, but yes, legally they have to perform an exam after a years up. I\u2019m sure you can get away with skipping the bloodwork, but the exam is necessary.","human_ref_B":"It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1907.0,"score_ratio":3.847826087}
{"post_id":"rkx4u7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.72,"history":"My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"hpd154x","c_root_id_B":"hpdgsvm","created_at_utc_A":1640045777,"created_at_utc_B":1640053007,"score_A":36,"score_B":177,"human_ref_A":"Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.","human_ref_B":"This has already been answered, but yes, legally they have to perform an exam after a years up. I\u2019m sure you can get away with skipping the bloodwork, but the exam is necessary.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7230.0,"score_ratio":4.9166666667}
{"post_id":"rkx4u7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.72,"history":"My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"hpdm911","c_root_id_B":"hpdcn68","created_at_utc_A":1640055540,"created_at_utc_B":1640051100,"score_A":76,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Means your vet is following the law. A prescription diet requires check-ups ensuring the food is still needed.","human_ref_B":"It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4440.0,"score_ratio":1.652173913}
{"post_id":"rkx4u7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.72,"history":"My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"hpd154x","c_root_id_B":"hpdm911","created_at_utc_A":1640045777,"created_at_utc_B":1640055540,"score_A":36,"score_B":76,"human_ref_A":"Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.","human_ref_B":"Means your vet is following the law. A prescription diet requires check-ups ensuring the food is still needed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9763.0,"score_ratio":2.1111111111}
{"post_id":"rkx4u7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.72,"history":"My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"hpd154x","c_root_id_B":"hpdcn68","created_at_utc_A":1640045777,"created_at_utc_B":1640051100,"score_A":36,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.","human_ref_B":"It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5323.0,"score_ratio":1.2777777778}
{"post_id":"oijajj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"What killed my dog? My dog died last month, in my arms.  I desperately need to understand what happened.  So background\u2026she was 8 years old.  A true Heinz 57, her breed is anyone\u2019s guess.  She was epileptic since we adopted her at 8 months old, her seizures mostly controlled, with some breakthroughs.  She was on keppra, phenobarbital and potassium bromide.  Her seizures were cluster grand mal seizures.  Before she died she ate tangerine peels.  My vet assured me they were not toxic, but might cause gastric issues.  She slept all day, refusing food and water.  By that evening there was some swelling in her neck, but no signs of breathing issues, distress or pain. She was responsive to us.  The next morning she was thirsty, but the swelling was worse and she walked like she was drunk.   I called my vet again who couldn\u2019t see her, but urged me to take her to the emergency vet.  They didn\u2019t open till midnight so I started calling any vet I could find until one agreed to see her.  They wanted me to give her a Benadryl and wait two hours, then bring her in.  I gave her the medicine and waited an hour, then left.  Within 10 minutes of getting in the car her breathing changed and she was in distress.  Her gums and tongue went white, her whole body stiffened like she was seizing.  Then she went limp, and was gone.  Please help.  I know no one can tell me exactly what happened, but if I had some idea, maybe I could find some closure.  TIA","c_root_id_A":"h4wmwm6","c_root_id_B":"h4w6slj","created_at_utc_A":1626086323,"created_at_utc_B":1626071395,"score_A":72,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. Without a necropsy or access to her records no one will be able to tell you what happened without speculating. Legally and ethically veterinary professionals cannot give out diagnosis guesses for a patient that wasn\u2019t theirs.   That being said, we all understand your pain. I hope the happy memories with your girl bring you some comfort.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not a vet but as a suggestion you could get a necropsy done, (the animal version of an autopsy.) It may give you some idea of what happened. It costs a little money but if it would help you in your grieving process then it might be worth it. Ask your vet what it would cost and what they\u2019d recommend. I\u2019m truly sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14928.0,"score_ratio":2.7692307692}
{"post_id":"hg48ql","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Help! Is my cat having a panic attack? PTSD? Happened twice.   &#x200B;  The first time (1 month ago):   He was sleeping under the table (as he usually does), and just woke up crying really pitifully, urinated himself, drooled, panted with his tongue out, mouth area turned pale and then just laid down as if he has no energy at all. We rushed him to the vet, and the vet said the x-ray showed there's nothing wrong with him physically because he suspected internal injuries as we told him he had a minor brush with a motorcycle two days earlier. Then he prescribed Baytril 50mg, Denzo and Methycobal 500mg. Vet said maybe my cat got frightened by loud sound or something, but he was just sleeping and there was no storm or fireworks going off when it happened.  &#x200B;  The second time (today):   He was out for a walk with human supervision, and he ran straight home after seeing an old man. Then he started crying, pooped and urinated himself, drooled, panted with his tongue out, mouth area turned pale and generally had no energy. We stayed with him and he gradually calmed down but he seems listless.  &#x200B;  Background of my cat:   He was a stray. I don't know how old he is, vet said he's about 1-3 years old. Neutered, deworm-ed, deflea-ed. I have 3 other cats at home (a mother cat and her 2 adult-kittens), who aren't fond of this new stray.  I have no idea what sort of life he had before he came into my house but I am sure that he was once chased by a pack of dogs (7 of them) but he managed to escaped them by climbing my fence. When he first came to us, he had a huge wound the size of a coin on the side of his body. We managed to treat it and it healed up well and he has been eating and playing well, until these episodes happened.  Could this be some sort of panic attack? PTSD? The vet only prescribed meds the first time, but should we be more concerned? Please help. Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fw2c93s","c_root_id_B":"fw23jwf","created_at_utc_A":1593181268,"created_at_utc_B":1593176209,"score_A":69,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"I think primary behavioral disorders can probably be excluded as your cat has very concerning physical clinical signs. I would recommend baseline bloodwork and if all normal, strongly consider having your cat evaluated by a cardiologist and\/or neurologist (I would probably start with cardiology).","human_ref_B":"Did your vet do any blood work? Also when you say \u201cminor brush with a motorcycle\u201d can you give more detail?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5059.0,"score_ratio":2.6538461538}
{"post_id":"ffwiig","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My cat won't take care of her kittens. Now I have no idea what's wrong, we changed the bedding of her little cabin as advised since apparently cats try to keep themselves and their kittens away from their birth place because the smell might attract predators.   I've placed food and fresh water right next to her cabin, there's a little heater near it as well so they don't get too cold. Thing is for some ungodly reason she just will not properly spend time with her 2 two day old kittens.  She doesn't seem to be feeding them as much as I think she probably should, I basically have to force her to sit near them so they can nurse. She easily lets me touch and pet the kittens but doesn't seem to care for them a lot herself.  Is this normal? Am I overreacting? Should I just let her be and see how things play out? Maybe interfering too much isn't the right thing to do. I would've gladly had the situation assessed by a vet nearby but we don't have any vets nearby so that's that.  What exactly should I try to do? Oh and she isn't eating a lot too, if it helps. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"fk12hds","c_root_id_B":"fk1bb59","created_at_utc_A":1583771099,"created_at_utc_B":1583776190,"score_A":19,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve seen this multiple times with first time cat mothers. However it\u2019s a crucial time in Their development and a day (or even a few hours) without milk can be fatal for such young kittens. Get yourself some KMR (kitten milk replacement) and start feeding them by hand if mom isn\u2019t attentive enough.","human_ref_B":"I think the best thing for you to do is provide supplemental care fo the kittens. You can't make her be a good mother unfortunately.      The most important things to do are:  1. Weigh the kittens daily and make sure they are gaining weight appropriately. They should NEVER be losing weight. 2. Get the mom to eat higher quality kitten food. It should be nutrient packed, not grain-free, and balanced for the kitten stage. 3. Get all of them dewormed and vaccinated on the appropriate schedule     See my orphaned kitten FAQ post -  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/wiki\/index#wiki\\_i\\_just\\_found\\_a\\_nest\\_of\\_abandoned\\_kittens\\_-\\_what\\_do\\_i\\_do.3F      You can ask me any questions here!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5091.0,"score_ratio":1.1052631579}
{"post_id":"ydl5nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why won\u2019t any Vet listen to me? Long story short: my 12 year old, female, GSD\/Rott mix, is losing her nails. She currently only has 4 left. All of the back nails or gone, both dew claws, and all but one on her left paw and 3 left on her right paw.   I took her into the vet 3 months ago when she was obsessively licking her paws. They ran her blood, wouldn\u2019t touch her paws because she was in obvious discomfort, despite me insisting they at least look under the nail. They gave me dog ibuprofen and some antibacterial meds.   I took her to the second vet about month after that when she had lost 4 nails in total, two on her back paw, right dew claw, and one on her left. Same thing, barely looked at her paw, ran blood work, same meds.   I took her a third vet, 2 weeks ago, and all but got my hands and knees and begged for this lady to look at her paws, I asked her to test for SLO, and to take scrapings from under her nails to test for SLO. I\u2019m aware SLO is incredibly rare, but it\u2019s the only this my own research has shown to match her symptoms (ie losing all her god damn nails)   Well, she wouldn\u2019t test for it, flat out said my dog doesn\u2019t have that, \u201cthat\u2019s pretty uncommon\u201d we\u2019re her exact words. She instead wanted to put her on meds for her thyroid and said that that was more likely to be causing the issues. She\u2019s been on the meds for two weeks now and nothing has changed. Today 1 of the 4 remaining claws separated from her quick and is facing directly up in the air. It\u2019s a mess, she won\u2019t let me near it, she\u2019s in obvious pain, depressed, whining, and won\u2019t put any pressure on that leg.   Her nails are not growing back and all blood work showed nothing out of the ordinary. I\u2019m so fed up being charged 100-400 dollars for the vet to not listen to a word I say and brush me off and not be concerned in the slightest with what the problem is with my girl.   I\u2019m at my wits end here, can anyone advise me what my next steps should be, please?","c_root_id_A":"itsy8zv","c_root_id_B":"itsuy2x","created_at_utc_A":1666749085,"created_at_utc_B":1666747547,"score_A":168,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Go to veterinary dermatologist. A lot dont need a referral.","human_ref_B":"Can you post pictures of the remaining nails?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1538.0,"score_ratio":15.2727272727}
{"post_id":"ydl5nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why won\u2019t any Vet listen to me? Long story short: my 12 year old, female, GSD\/Rott mix, is losing her nails. She currently only has 4 left. All of the back nails or gone, both dew claws, and all but one on her left paw and 3 left on her right paw.   I took her into the vet 3 months ago when she was obsessively licking her paws. They ran her blood, wouldn\u2019t touch her paws because she was in obvious discomfort, despite me insisting they at least look under the nail. They gave me dog ibuprofen and some antibacterial meds.   I took her to the second vet about month after that when she had lost 4 nails in total, two on her back paw, right dew claw, and one on her left. Same thing, barely looked at her paw, ran blood work, same meds.   I took her a third vet, 2 weeks ago, and all but got my hands and knees and begged for this lady to look at her paws, I asked her to test for SLO, and to take scrapings from under her nails to test for SLO. I\u2019m aware SLO is incredibly rare, but it\u2019s the only this my own research has shown to match her symptoms (ie losing all her god damn nails)   Well, she wouldn\u2019t test for it, flat out said my dog doesn\u2019t have that, \u201cthat\u2019s pretty uncommon\u201d we\u2019re her exact words. She instead wanted to put her on meds for her thyroid and said that that was more likely to be causing the issues. She\u2019s been on the meds for two weeks now and nothing has changed. Today 1 of the 4 remaining claws separated from her quick and is facing directly up in the air. It\u2019s a mess, she won\u2019t let me near it, she\u2019s in obvious pain, depressed, whining, and won\u2019t put any pressure on that leg.   Her nails are not growing back and all blood work showed nothing out of the ordinary. I\u2019m so fed up being charged 100-400 dollars for the vet to not listen to a word I say and brush me off and not be concerned in the slightest with what the problem is with my girl.   I\u2019m at my wits end here, can anyone advise me what my next steps should be, please?","c_root_id_A":"itsy9rz","c_root_id_B":"itt5ug2","created_at_utc_A":1666749095,"created_at_utc_B":1666752780,"score_A":52,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"Do you have a recheck appointment booked to retest the thyroid levels since starting?   Honestly I think it's reasonable to say \"hey, I'd like referral to a dermatologist\" and go from there.   Also, are these vets all at the same clinic or different clinics entirely? I really recommend seeing the same vet clinic for follow-up, ideally the same person if possible. The more you switch, the more difficult it is for the vet(s) to follow her case and see it's progression. At least if it's the same clinic they can share progress notes and consult each other.","human_ref_B":"The only way to diagnose SLO is by amputating the end of the toe under anesthesia, and submitting it for pathology review. You cannot diagnose this with a cytology sample or scraping the skin under the nail. Most veterinarians would not want to jump to this on a 12 year old dog, and it would be unusual for a dog that old to suddenly develop an autoimmune disorder. I would agree that you should either invest in a dermatology consult and\/or continue your recheck appointments with one of your previous vets until you can be seen by a dermatologist. Is your dog wearing a cone to protect their paws?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3685.0,"score_ratio":2.1153846154}
{"post_id":"ydl5nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why won\u2019t any Vet listen to me? Long story short: my 12 year old, female, GSD\/Rott mix, is losing her nails. She currently only has 4 left. All of the back nails or gone, both dew claws, and all but one on her left paw and 3 left on her right paw.   I took her into the vet 3 months ago when she was obsessively licking her paws. They ran her blood, wouldn\u2019t touch her paws because she was in obvious discomfort, despite me insisting they at least look under the nail. They gave me dog ibuprofen and some antibacterial meds.   I took her to the second vet about month after that when she had lost 4 nails in total, two on her back paw, right dew claw, and one on her left. Same thing, barely looked at her paw, ran blood work, same meds.   I took her a third vet, 2 weeks ago, and all but got my hands and knees and begged for this lady to look at her paws, I asked her to test for SLO, and to take scrapings from under her nails to test for SLO. I\u2019m aware SLO is incredibly rare, but it\u2019s the only this my own research has shown to match her symptoms (ie losing all her god damn nails)   Well, she wouldn\u2019t test for it, flat out said my dog doesn\u2019t have that, \u201cthat\u2019s pretty uncommon\u201d we\u2019re her exact words. She instead wanted to put her on meds for her thyroid and said that that was more likely to be causing the issues. She\u2019s been on the meds for two weeks now and nothing has changed. Today 1 of the 4 remaining claws separated from her quick and is facing directly up in the air. It\u2019s a mess, she won\u2019t let me near it, she\u2019s in obvious pain, depressed, whining, and won\u2019t put any pressure on that leg.   Her nails are not growing back and all blood work showed nothing out of the ordinary. I\u2019m so fed up being charged 100-400 dollars for the vet to not listen to a word I say and brush me off and not be concerned in the slightest with what the problem is with my girl.   I\u2019m at my wits end here, can anyone advise me what my next steps should be, please?","c_root_id_A":"itt5ug2","c_root_id_B":"itsuy2x","created_at_utc_A":1666752780,"created_at_utc_B":1666747547,"score_A":110,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"The only way to diagnose SLO is by amputating the end of the toe under anesthesia, and submitting it for pathology review. You cannot diagnose this with a cytology sample or scraping the skin under the nail. Most veterinarians would not want to jump to this on a 12 year old dog, and it would be unusual for a dog that old to suddenly develop an autoimmune disorder. I would agree that you should either invest in a dermatology consult and\/or continue your recheck appointments with one of your previous vets until you can be seen by a dermatologist. Is your dog wearing a cone to protect their paws?","human_ref_B":"Can you post pictures of the remaining nails?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5233.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"ydl5nv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why won\u2019t any Vet listen to me? Long story short: my 12 year old, female, GSD\/Rott mix, is losing her nails. She currently only has 4 left. All of the back nails or gone, both dew claws, and all but one on her left paw and 3 left on her right paw.   I took her into the vet 3 months ago when she was obsessively licking her paws. They ran her blood, wouldn\u2019t touch her paws because she was in obvious discomfort, despite me insisting they at least look under the nail. They gave me dog ibuprofen and some antibacterial meds.   I took her to the second vet about month after that when she had lost 4 nails in total, two on her back paw, right dew claw, and one on her left. Same thing, barely looked at her paw, ran blood work, same meds.   I took her a third vet, 2 weeks ago, and all but got my hands and knees and begged for this lady to look at her paws, I asked her to test for SLO, and to take scrapings from under her nails to test for SLO. I\u2019m aware SLO is incredibly rare, but it\u2019s the only this my own research has shown to match her symptoms (ie losing all her god damn nails)   Well, she wouldn\u2019t test for it, flat out said my dog doesn\u2019t have that, \u201cthat\u2019s pretty uncommon\u201d we\u2019re her exact words. She instead wanted to put her on meds for her thyroid and said that that was more likely to be causing the issues. She\u2019s been on the meds for two weeks now and nothing has changed. Today 1 of the 4 remaining claws separated from her quick and is facing directly up in the air. It\u2019s a mess, she won\u2019t let me near it, she\u2019s in obvious pain, depressed, whining, and won\u2019t put any pressure on that leg.   Her nails are not growing back and all blood work showed nothing out of the ordinary. I\u2019m so fed up being charged 100-400 dollars for the vet to not listen to a word I say and brush me off and not be concerned in the slightest with what the problem is with my girl.   I\u2019m at my wits end here, can anyone advise me what my next steps should be, please?","c_root_id_A":"itsy9rz","c_root_id_B":"itsuy2x","created_at_utc_A":1666749095,"created_at_utc_B":1666747547,"score_A":52,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Do you have a recheck appointment booked to retest the thyroid levels since starting?   Honestly I think it's reasonable to say \"hey, I'd like referral to a dermatologist\" and go from there.   Also, are these vets all at the same clinic or different clinics entirely? I really recommend seeing the same vet clinic for follow-up, ideally the same person if possible. The more you switch, the more difficult it is for the vet(s) to follow her case and see it's progression. At least if it's the same clinic they can share progress notes and consult each other.","human_ref_B":"Can you post pictures of the remaining nails?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1548.0,"score_ratio":4.7272727273}
{"post_id":"siohv4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has a broken sternum. I feel awful. I brought my cat home from the vet earlier today and was told his sternum is broken. About 4 days ago now I stepped out of my bedroom for 15 seconds to grab a bottled water, and when I stepped back in my step-daughter said she hurt my cat and he snapped at her. I asked her what happened but she could only say he meowed and tried to bite her. She's 4 years old, so I really don't think she could have hurt him. She's super gentle with him and they're best buddies, he's a super loving cat and will kiss all over her face like a puppy. He seemed fine and I didn't think anything of it. The next day he was tearing up my carpet and scratching at my bedroom door, which he always does and drives me crazy! I was standing right by him so I went 'psst' and barely barely nudged him with my toes, and when I say barely I mean BARELY. He let out a long kinda whine\/meow but chopped it up to him being hungry or he had to use the bathroom and was annoyed I didn't open the door immediately   because he's so spoiled. He was running around like crazy, playing with my other cat, eating and drinking normally. Yesterday I picked him up and he yelped out in pain and I felt a hard lump at the very bottom of his rib cage right in the middle. I had to drop him off at the vet and I was expecting it to be an abscess or a cyst. The vet called me back and said his sternum was broken. I feel like shit. How could this have happened? He's always been a silly cat, and he's pretty clumsy. I know sometimes he doesn't calculate his jumps right and he'll fall back on the ground but this injury feels so intense for it to just have been a fall. He has to stay in a dog cage for the next month and very strict bed rest. I just needed to vent. I feel terrible having him caged up and it hasn't even been 24 hours.  TLDR: My cat broke his sternum and I have no idea how. I feel terrible, like I could have prevented it somehow.","c_root_id_A":"hvasq6j","c_root_id_B":"hvak7p2","created_at_utc_A":1643822220,"created_at_utc_B":1643819141,"score_A":111,"score_B":88,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t allow **ANY** 4 year old unsupervised time with animals or babies, **EVER.**  Hopefully people who read this will have this concept hammered home, and hopefully OP this instance will serve as a sad reminder of why.   I hope your kitty heals comfortably, quickly, and uncomplicated.","human_ref_B":"When I was 4, I thought it was fun to pull the family cat's tail. Thankfully, he wasnt declawed, so he (justifiably) scratched my ass. I learned to not do that, and my parents learned not to let a 4 year old be around a pet unsupervised.     This is the same lesson here, but unfortunately the innocent cat paid the price.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3079.0,"score_ratio":1.2613636364}
{"post_id":"siohv4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has a broken sternum. I feel awful. I brought my cat home from the vet earlier today and was told his sternum is broken. About 4 days ago now I stepped out of my bedroom for 15 seconds to grab a bottled water, and when I stepped back in my step-daughter said she hurt my cat and he snapped at her. I asked her what happened but she could only say he meowed and tried to bite her. She's 4 years old, so I really don't think she could have hurt him. She's super gentle with him and they're best buddies, he's a super loving cat and will kiss all over her face like a puppy. He seemed fine and I didn't think anything of it. The next day he was tearing up my carpet and scratching at my bedroom door, which he always does and drives me crazy! I was standing right by him so I went 'psst' and barely barely nudged him with my toes, and when I say barely I mean BARELY. He let out a long kinda whine\/meow but chopped it up to him being hungry or he had to use the bathroom and was annoyed I didn't open the door immediately   because he's so spoiled. He was running around like crazy, playing with my other cat, eating and drinking normally. Yesterday I picked him up and he yelped out in pain and I felt a hard lump at the very bottom of his rib cage right in the middle. I had to drop him off at the vet and I was expecting it to be an abscess or a cyst. The vet called me back and said his sternum was broken. I feel like shit. How could this have happened? He's always been a silly cat, and he's pretty clumsy. I know sometimes he doesn't calculate his jumps right and he'll fall back on the ground but this injury feels so intense for it to just have been a fall. He has to stay in a dog cage for the next month and very strict bed rest. I just needed to vent. I feel terrible having him caged up and it hasn't even been 24 hours.  TLDR: My cat broke his sternum and I have no idea how. I feel terrible, like I could have prevented it somehow.","c_root_id_A":"hvan0lh","c_root_id_B":"hvasq6j","created_at_utc_A":1643820153,"created_at_utc_B":1643822220,"score_A":87,"score_B":111,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s normal to feel bad, but you took him and now know cats can and try to hide pain so as not be a easy target. This is deeply ingrained from when they were more wild. I would just try your best to not leave the child around him unattended since kids can play rougher than they mean and accidents happen.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t allow **ANY** 4 year old unsupervised time with animals or babies, **EVER.**  Hopefully people who read this will have this concept hammered home, and hopefully OP this instance will serve as a sad reminder of why.   I hope your kitty heals comfortably, quickly, and uncomplicated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2067.0,"score_ratio":1.275862069}
{"post_id":"siohv4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has a broken sternum. I feel awful. I brought my cat home from the vet earlier today and was told his sternum is broken. About 4 days ago now I stepped out of my bedroom for 15 seconds to grab a bottled water, and when I stepped back in my step-daughter said she hurt my cat and he snapped at her. I asked her what happened but she could only say he meowed and tried to bite her. She's 4 years old, so I really don't think she could have hurt him. She's super gentle with him and they're best buddies, he's a super loving cat and will kiss all over her face like a puppy. He seemed fine and I didn't think anything of it. The next day he was tearing up my carpet and scratching at my bedroom door, which he always does and drives me crazy! I was standing right by him so I went 'psst' and barely barely nudged him with my toes, and when I say barely I mean BARELY. He let out a long kinda whine\/meow but chopped it up to him being hungry or he had to use the bathroom and was annoyed I didn't open the door immediately   because he's so spoiled. He was running around like crazy, playing with my other cat, eating and drinking normally. Yesterday I picked him up and he yelped out in pain and I felt a hard lump at the very bottom of his rib cage right in the middle. I had to drop him off at the vet and I was expecting it to be an abscess or a cyst. The vet called me back and said his sternum was broken. I feel like shit. How could this have happened? He's always been a silly cat, and he's pretty clumsy. I know sometimes he doesn't calculate his jumps right and he'll fall back on the ground but this injury feels so intense for it to just have been a fall. He has to stay in a dog cage for the next month and very strict bed rest. I just needed to vent. I feel terrible having him caged up and it hasn't even been 24 hours.  TLDR: My cat broke his sternum and I have no idea how. I feel terrible, like I could have prevented it somehow.","c_root_id_A":"hvauhsb","c_root_id_B":"hvba2q7","created_at_utc_A":1643822857,"created_at_utc_B":1643828593,"score_A":16,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Dont beat yourself up about it too much. I know your worried sick rn and have a bad conscience. Try to focus on healing your cat, keep him safe and be calm for him.   \u2764","human_ref_B":"If it makes you feel any better, our mini dauchsund puppy lost his eye at 4 months old after a freak accident with a larger dog. It was like a  week post surgery, and I was in charge of watching him. He had a cone on, one eye and a large swollen stitched up eye socket on the other. My dumbass decided to paint the walls that day while he slept. I was on a step stool, getting into the painting groove and when I stepped back he was there out of nowhere. I STEPPED RIGHT ON HIS LITTLE HEAD. I screamed. He yelped and went running and howling. I felt SO SO bad. Turned out he was alright. Nothing serious and he's thankfully still with us today happy and playful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5736.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"siohv4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has a broken sternum. I feel awful. I brought my cat home from the vet earlier today and was told his sternum is broken. About 4 days ago now I stepped out of my bedroom for 15 seconds to grab a bottled water, and when I stepped back in my step-daughter said she hurt my cat and he snapped at her. I asked her what happened but she could only say he meowed and tried to bite her. She's 4 years old, so I really don't think she could have hurt him. She's super gentle with him and they're best buddies, he's a super loving cat and will kiss all over her face like a puppy. He seemed fine and I didn't think anything of it. The next day he was tearing up my carpet and scratching at my bedroom door, which he always does and drives me crazy! I was standing right by him so I went 'psst' and barely barely nudged him with my toes, and when I say barely I mean BARELY. He let out a long kinda whine\/meow but chopped it up to him being hungry or he had to use the bathroom and was annoyed I didn't open the door immediately   because he's so spoiled. He was running around like crazy, playing with my other cat, eating and drinking normally. Yesterday I picked him up and he yelped out in pain and I felt a hard lump at the very bottom of his rib cage right in the middle. I had to drop him off at the vet and I was expecting it to be an abscess or a cyst. The vet called me back and said his sternum was broken. I feel like shit. How could this have happened? He's always been a silly cat, and he's pretty clumsy. I know sometimes he doesn't calculate his jumps right and he'll fall back on the ground but this injury feels so intense for it to just have been a fall. He has to stay in a dog cage for the next month and very strict bed rest. I just needed to vent. I feel terrible having him caged up and it hasn't even been 24 hours.  TLDR: My cat broke his sternum and I have no idea how. I feel terrible, like I could have prevented it somehow.","c_root_id_A":"hvcbdcq","c_root_id_B":"hvauhsb","created_at_utc_A":1643842481,"created_at_utc_B":1643822857,"score_A":25,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You may want to invest in a Feliway diffuser if he needs to be crated for a month. It can help with stress.","human_ref_B":"Dont beat yourself up about it too much. I know your worried sick rn and have a bad conscience. Try to focus on healing your cat, keep him safe and be calm for him.   \u2764","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19624.0,"score_ratio":1.5625}
{"post_id":"siohv4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has a broken sternum. I feel awful. I brought my cat home from the vet earlier today and was told his sternum is broken. About 4 days ago now I stepped out of my bedroom for 15 seconds to grab a bottled water, and when I stepped back in my step-daughter said she hurt my cat and he snapped at her. I asked her what happened but she could only say he meowed and tried to bite her. She's 4 years old, so I really don't think she could have hurt him. She's super gentle with him and they're best buddies, he's a super loving cat and will kiss all over her face like a puppy. He seemed fine and I didn't think anything of it. The next day he was tearing up my carpet and scratching at my bedroom door, which he always does and drives me crazy! I was standing right by him so I went 'psst' and barely barely nudged him with my toes, and when I say barely I mean BARELY. He let out a long kinda whine\/meow but chopped it up to him being hungry or he had to use the bathroom and was annoyed I didn't open the door immediately   because he's so spoiled. He was running around like crazy, playing with my other cat, eating and drinking normally. Yesterday I picked him up and he yelped out in pain and I felt a hard lump at the very bottom of his rib cage right in the middle. I had to drop him off at the vet and I was expecting it to be an abscess or a cyst. The vet called me back and said his sternum was broken. I feel like shit. How could this have happened? He's always been a silly cat, and he's pretty clumsy. I know sometimes he doesn't calculate his jumps right and he'll fall back on the ground but this injury feels so intense for it to just have been a fall. He has to stay in a dog cage for the next month and very strict bed rest. I just needed to vent. I feel terrible having him caged up and it hasn't even been 24 hours.  TLDR: My cat broke his sternum and I have no idea how. I feel terrible, like I could have prevented it somehow.","c_root_id_A":"hvcbdcq","c_root_id_B":"hvbn4nx","created_at_utc_A":1643842481,"created_at_utc_B":1643833565,"score_A":25,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"You may want to invest in a Feliway diffuser if he needs to be crated for a month. It can help with stress.","human_ref_B":"The kid","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8916.0,"score_ratio":1.9230769231}
{"post_id":"n022qc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My male cat had to have surgery to remove crystals from his bladder. We bought litter that changes color to show abnormalities, and for 3 days it has been showing high alkalinity for him. Any idea how long we have to correct this? Weeks? Months? Any general tips or food suggestions? As the title said, he had a blockage that was basically life threatening, so they had to catheter him and perform surgery to remove it. The vet said it could easily be a recurring problem without surgery, but we want to make sure to try the best food option we can ASAP to see if can reverse it. The problem is I have absolutely no idea how long these take to form. About 3 days ago his litter starting changing color showing a higher alkalinity, which means he is at risk of the crystals forming again. I just want to gauge how long we have to address this, because I don't want him to be in any pain. Now that it has happened we will know right away if he starts peeing outside the litter box and licking himself more often, but I just want to have a general idea of how long it could be before that happens again, should this alkalinity issue not be able to be fixed by food alone. Does anyone have any idea?  We put him on a mid priced urinary diet food, but clearly that is not doing enough. We want to just go to the most high quality stuff we can to hopefully stop this from happening again, so if anyone has any tips for that as well, or what has worked for you, please suggest.   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gw4hd23","c_root_id_B":"gw4r3te","created_at_utc_A":1619574495,"created_at_utc_B":1619579701,"score_A":18,"score_B":49,"human_ref_A":"If the litter changing color is enough to trigger you to notice a change in his urination sooner, I'd say stick with it. Request your veterinarian to run a urinalysis (a UA in the biz). You'll have to collect his urine likely. You can fill the litter pan with a small amount of shredded paper; that should allow enough to not be absorbed to collect. They can check for crystals within the urine. If crystals are present, stones can form. The speed at which they form can be variable. This is definitely a condition that is going to take some diligence and routine diagnostics but can definitely become well managed. Urinalysis' as frequently as you can will help. If you're feeling froggy, you can buy human grade urine test strips to monitor things like pH and blood so you can course-correct quickly in terms of diet and hydration or know when exactly to contact your vet for help. A supremely excellent vet will help you interpret these results. Ultrasounds to scan for stones would be the gold star standard if you can swing it and the cat is amenable.   Chat with your regular vets about diets. There may be a better food for him, or some helpful dietary supplements. Data from the urine tests can be helpful in honing in on what's going to keep it balanced the best. Hope this was helpful. Good luck!","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet about royal canin urinary SO food. It's a standard for pets with urinary issues and is often prescribed as a preventative especially in cat that don't regularly eat wet food or get enough water.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5206.0,"score_ratio":2.7222222222}
{"post_id":"n022qc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My male cat had to have surgery to remove crystals from his bladder. We bought litter that changes color to show abnormalities, and for 3 days it has been showing high alkalinity for him. Any idea how long we have to correct this? Weeks? Months? Any general tips or food suggestions? As the title said, he had a blockage that was basically life threatening, so they had to catheter him and perform surgery to remove it. The vet said it could easily be a recurring problem without surgery, but we want to make sure to try the best food option we can ASAP to see if can reverse it. The problem is I have absolutely no idea how long these take to form. About 3 days ago his litter starting changing color showing a higher alkalinity, which means he is at risk of the crystals forming again. I just want to gauge how long we have to address this, because I don't want him to be in any pain. Now that it has happened we will know right away if he starts peeing outside the litter box and licking himself more often, but I just want to have a general idea of how long it could be before that happens again, should this alkalinity issue not be able to be fixed by food alone. Does anyone have any idea?  We put him on a mid priced urinary diet food, but clearly that is not doing enough. We want to just go to the most high quality stuff we can to hopefully stop this from happening again, so if anyone has any tips for that as well, or what has worked for you, please suggest.   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gw4tpgf","c_root_id_B":"gw4hd23","created_at_utc_A":1619581223,"created_at_utc_B":1619574495,"score_A":20,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"A kitty water fountain would help a great deal to encourage him to drink more.","human_ref_B":"If the litter changing color is enough to trigger you to notice a change in his urination sooner, I'd say stick with it. Request your veterinarian to run a urinalysis (a UA in the biz). You'll have to collect his urine likely. You can fill the litter pan with a small amount of shredded paper; that should allow enough to not be absorbed to collect. They can check for crystals within the urine. If crystals are present, stones can form. The speed at which they form can be variable. This is definitely a condition that is going to take some diligence and routine diagnostics but can definitely become well managed. Urinalysis' as frequently as you can will help. If you're feeling froggy, you can buy human grade urine test strips to monitor things like pH and blood so you can course-correct quickly in terms of diet and hydration or know when exactly to contact your vet for help. A supremely excellent vet will help you interpret these results. Ultrasounds to scan for stones would be the gold star standard if you can swing it and the cat is amenable.   Chat with your regular vets about diets. There may be a better food for him, or some helpful dietary supplements. Data from the urine tests can be helpful in honing in on what's going to keep it balanced the best. Hope this was helpful. Good luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6728.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"ar03i3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My husky has toy \"puppies\" and now she won't let me near them, what do I do? My husky who is 5 years old has suddenly gone through the trama of being left alone a lot longer than she usually would. My partner and I use to work opposite shifts so someone was mostly at home and she was left on her own for a max of 3 odd hours 5 days a week, now I've got a new job where on very similar hours so she's left alone now for around 8.  I've noticed she's been depressed so I'm working on getting her a new dog friend so she has company but due to her liveliness and her breed and I'm wanting to adopt a shelter dog it's taking a bit longer.shes gotten really obsessive over 4 squeaky toys like their her babies and I've respected this if she looked sad if I was getting closer I'd give her a little stroke and not get near the toys, last night she scattered them on my own bed and and slept there with them with me and partner and was fine so I thought maybe she's getting out if this stage and thought they were toys again. She now won't let me near them and their on my bed she keeps pushing me away? What do I do?","c_root_id_A":"egk66xe","c_root_id_B":"egk7j1h","created_at_utc_A":1550268490,"created_at_utc_B":1550269542,"score_A":6,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet but I might also suggest a dog walker around the middle of your shift","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. was animal behavior professional.  I wonder if she had any signs of a phantom pregnancy, or if she's spayed?   Sometimes, females (and even some males) will become hormonal and adopt toys or other species.   It can be following a phantom pregnancy, or not.   It would be something to talk to your vet about or to ride out if there's no aggression or any concern of self harm.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1052.0,"score_ratio":6.8333333333}
{"post_id":"8j4sfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What CAN you say? I'm a veterinary assistant and obviously unable to dx over the internet (especially in person) and I get that. But I always see people that have questions and if no one is able to suggest what COULD be wrong or give personal anecdotes, is there anything here that I can say that CAN be helpful aside from \"go see a vet!\"?  I feel this is one of those subreddits where no matter what anyone posts, all I can offer is \"go see a doctor\".  Any suggestions?","c_root_id_A":"dywygrc","c_root_id_B":"dywykll","created_at_utc_A":1526229265,"created_at_utc_B":1526229381,"score_A":27,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Making guesses at diagnoses is typically considering unethical, and hopefully it\u2019s not difficult to understand why. If you need more explanation on that, I can elaborate further.  You can discuss options for clients in terms of referral. Sometimes people just want\/need to know if something is life-threatening or concerning enough to warrant a vet visit, that can be helpful.  For those with the expertise and for the rarely prepared poster, information\/second opinions can be given specifically for diagnostic information. Keeping in mind we can\u2019t ethically recommend how to treat just based on that.   And then topical questions in general can be answered more freely such as \u2018what is a typical vaccine schedule for a puppy?\u2019 \u2018Why do you recommend heart worm preventative if my dog is mostly indoors?\u2019 \u2018My cat has fiv what does that mean?\u2019 Etc  There is no way this sub can or should try to act as some sort of conglomerate spewing at potential laundry lists of diagnostics when we\u2019re missing the most important test: a good physical exam.","human_ref_B":"dude, i feel the same way.  i've written out long responses multiple times with great advice and then deleted it immediately after remembering i can't do that here.  my heart has raced so quickly to get them deleted so i don't get banned, haha.  i appreciate the caution, but it's frustrating when you know you could help but just can't.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":116.0,"score_ratio":2.7777777778}
{"post_id":"8j4sfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What CAN you say? I'm a veterinary assistant and obviously unable to dx over the internet (especially in person) and I get that. But I always see people that have questions and if no one is able to suggest what COULD be wrong or give personal anecdotes, is there anything here that I can say that CAN be helpful aside from \"go see a vet!\"?  I feel this is one of those subreddits where no matter what anyone posts, all I can offer is \"go see a doctor\".  Any suggestions?","c_root_id_A":"dywykll","c_root_id_B":"dywyasv","created_at_utc_A":1526229381,"created_at_utc_B":1526229083,"score_A":75,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"dude, i feel the same way.  i've written out long responses multiple times with great advice and then deleted it immediately after remembering i can't do that here.  my heart has raced so quickly to get them deleted so i don't get banned, haha.  i appreciate the caution, but it's frustrating when you know you could help but just can't.","human_ref_B":"There's so few things that you can be absolutely sure of that there isn't really anything you can say, as you can either end up freaking them out thinking it's something serious, or giving them false hope by suggesting it's something fairly benign when it isn't. I guess giving them advice on what to do before they can get to a vet and asking about any another symptoms is about the best you can give. You can also suggest further tests they could ask for if they've already been to a vet and haven't come to a diagnosis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":298.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"8j4sfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What CAN you say? I'm a veterinary assistant and obviously unable to dx over the internet (especially in person) and I get that. But I always see people that have questions and if no one is able to suggest what COULD be wrong or give personal anecdotes, is there anything here that I can say that CAN be helpful aside from \"go see a vet!\"?  I feel this is one of those subreddits where no matter what anyone posts, all I can offer is \"go see a doctor\".  Any suggestions?","c_root_id_A":"dywzyi8","c_root_id_B":"dywygrc","created_at_utc_A":1526230867,"created_at_utc_B":1526229265,"score_A":35,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"This question comes up a lot, so maybe search the subreddit for some answers. From a previous question like this:  >We can give you husbandry advice. We can tell you if something is an emergency or not. We can explain what a diagnosis means, what a medication does, and what type of preventative care a pet needs. We can explain how procedures are typically done. We can explain warning signs to look for in a sick pet. We can list resources for how to medicate pets at home, fear free restraint, veterinary specialists, and poison control centers. We can explain the side effects of your pets medications and OTC meds. We can explain the science behind a disease process. We can explain why certain procedures are necessary, and what to expect from them. We can talk about pet food and what to look out for.   >   >We can act as a resource, but we cannot replace the need for medical intervention.  We can even discuss differentials when there is actual lab work\/diagnostics \\(not just owner info\\).  Now for some links to threads where I have hopefully helped OP \\(by doing more than saying \"see a vet\"\\):  * My bird is becoming aggressive! * My 7 y\/o cat has been diagnosed with a food allergy but it's been over a year and multiple different foods without relief. Any ideas? * Redirected aggression between cats * Dog skin problem * How to manage stress with a special needs cat? * Question About Euthanization * 'Adopting' a cat from Craigslist\\-what questions should I ask current owner? * 6 week old puppy \\(runt of the litter\\) throws up after eating\/drinking. * Help with leash on a cat\/socialization * 10yr old pug displaying signs of.. dimentia? * How long before i can get a new kitten after FIP? * Help! Feline Asthma  And I am going to stop there because I could go on and on.","human_ref_B":"Making guesses at diagnoses is typically considering unethical, and hopefully it\u2019s not difficult to understand why. If you need more explanation on that, I can elaborate further.  You can discuss options for clients in terms of referral. Sometimes people just want\/need to know if something is life-threatening or concerning enough to warrant a vet visit, that can be helpful.  For those with the expertise and for the rarely prepared poster, information\/second opinions can be given specifically for diagnostic information. Keeping in mind we can\u2019t ethically recommend how to treat just based on that.   And then topical questions in general can be answered more freely such as \u2018what is a typical vaccine schedule for a puppy?\u2019 \u2018Why do you recommend heart worm preventative if my dog is mostly indoors?\u2019 \u2018My cat has fiv what does that mean?\u2019 Etc  There is no way this sub can or should try to act as some sort of conglomerate spewing at potential laundry lists of diagnostics when we\u2019re missing the most important test: a good physical exam.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1602.0,"score_ratio":1.2962962963}
{"post_id":"8j4sfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What CAN you say? I'm a veterinary assistant and obviously unable to dx over the internet (especially in person) and I get that. But I always see people that have questions and if no one is able to suggest what COULD be wrong or give personal anecdotes, is there anything here that I can say that CAN be helpful aside from \"go see a vet!\"?  I feel this is one of those subreddits where no matter what anyone posts, all I can offer is \"go see a doctor\".  Any suggestions?","c_root_id_A":"dywzyi8","c_root_id_B":"dywyasv","created_at_utc_A":1526230867,"created_at_utc_B":1526229083,"score_A":35,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"This question comes up a lot, so maybe search the subreddit for some answers. From a previous question like this:  >We can give you husbandry advice. We can tell you if something is an emergency or not. We can explain what a diagnosis means, what a medication does, and what type of preventative care a pet needs. We can explain how procedures are typically done. We can explain warning signs to look for in a sick pet. We can list resources for how to medicate pets at home, fear free restraint, veterinary specialists, and poison control centers. We can explain the side effects of your pets medications and OTC meds. We can explain the science behind a disease process. We can explain why certain procedures are necessary, and what to expect from them. We can talk about pet food and what to look out for.   >   >We can act as a resource, but we cannot replace the need for medical intervention.  We can even discuss differentials when there is actual lab work\/diagnostics \\(not just owner info\\).  Now for some links to threads where I have hopefully helped OP \\(by doing more than saying \"see a vet\"\\):  * My bird is becoming aggressive! * My 7 y\/o cat has been diagnosed with a food allergy but it's been over a year and multiple different foods without relief. Any ideas? * Redirected aggression between cats * Dog skin problem * How to manage stress with a special needs cat? * Question About Euthanization * 'Adopting' a cat from Craigslist\\-what questions should I ask current owner? * 6 week old puppy \\(runt of the litter\\) throws up after eating\/drinking. * Help with leash on a cat\/socialization * 10yr old pug displaying signs of.. dimentia? * How long before i can get a new kitten after FIP? * Help! Feline Asthma  And I am going to stop there because I could go on and on.","human_ref_B":"There's so few things that you can be absolutely sure of that there isn't really anything you can say, as you can either end up freaking them out thinking it's something serious, or giving them false hope by suggesting it's something fairly benign when it isn't. I guess giving them advice on what to do before they can get to a vet and asking about any another symptoms is about the best you can give. You can also suggest further tests they could ask for if they've already been to a vet and haven't come to a diagnosis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1784.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"8j4sfn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What CAN you say? I'm a veterinary assistant and obviously unable to dx over the internet (especially in person) and I get that. But I always see people that have questions and if no one is able to suggest what COULD be wrong or give personal anecdotes, is there anything here that I can say that CAN be helpful aside from \"go see a vet!\"?  I feel this is one of those subreddits where no matter what anyone posts, all I can offer is \"go see a doctor\".  Any suggestions?","c_root_id_A":"dywyasv","c_root_id_B":"dywygrc","created_at_utc_A":1526229083,"created_at_utc_B":1526229265,"score_A":10,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"There's so few things that you can be absolutely sure of that there isn't really anything you can say, as you can either end up freaking them out thinking it's something serious, or giving them false hope by suggesting it's something fairly benign when it isn't. I guess giving them advice on what to do before they can get to a vet and asking about any another symptoms is about the best you can give. You can also suggest further tests they could ask for if they've already been to a vet and haven't come to a diagnosis.","human_ref_B":"Making guesses at diagnoses is typically considering unethical, and hopefully it\u2019s not difficult to understand why. If you need more explanation on that, I can elaborate further.  You can discuss options for clients in terms of referral. Sometimes people just want\/need to know if something is life-threatening or concerning enough to warrant a vet visit, that can be helpful.  For those with the expertise and for the rarely prepared poster, information\/second opinions can be given specifically for diagnostic information. Keeping in mind we can\u2019t ethically recommend how to treat just based on that.   And then topical questions in general can be answered more freely such as \u2018what is a typical vaccine schedule for a puppy?\u2019 \u2018Why do you recommend heart worm preventative if my dog is mostly indoors?\u2019 \u2018My cat has fiv what does that mean?\u2019 Etc  There is no way this sub can or should try to act as some sort of conglomerate spewing at potential laundry lists of diagnostics when we\u2019re missing the most important test: a good physical exam.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":182.0,"score_ratio":2.7}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u291m","c_root_id_B":"i7u21n1","created_at_utc_A":1652039713,"created_at_utc_B":1652039621,"score_A":188,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Emergency vet","human_ref_B":"Isn\u2019t there a 24\/7 emergency vet?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":92.0,"score_ratio":8.5454545455}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u3zzo","c_root_id_B":"i7ufm36","created_at_utc_A":1652040480,"created_at_utc_B":1652045579,"score_A":27,"score_B":116,"human_ref_A":"OTC meds are not safe. Just keep and eye on her and keep her comfortable. If she starts to decline, you may need to take her to the ER and consider applying for CareCredit or ScratchPay.","human_ref_B":"Pawp is an emergency insurance for a one-time visit to the ER vet up to $3000. It can be used anywhere, and is directly deposited to your account. I'd look into using that. Even with minor exterior injuries, you desperately need to take your dog to the ER.  It may suck financially, but please don't let your dog suffer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5099.0,"score_ratio":4.2962962963}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7ufm36","c_root_id_B":"i7u8xej","created_at_utc_A":1652045579,"created_at_utc_B":1652042660,"score_A":116,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Pawp is an emergency insurance for a one-time visit to the ER vet up to $3000. It can be used anywhere, and is directly deposited to your account. I'd look into using that. Even with minor exterior injuries, you desperately need to take your dog to the ER.  It may suck financially, but please don't let your dog suffer.","human_ref_B":"I would read the pet insurance policy - she if they reimbursed on emergencies vets, that\u2019s odd the insurance is exclusive to one vet. Review the policy. Internal injuries cannot be detected visually.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2919.0,"score_ratio":4.2962962963}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u21n1","c_root_id_B":"i7ufm36","created_at_utc_A":1652039621,"created_at_utc_B":1652045579,"score_A":22,"score_B":116,"human_ref_A":"Isn\u2019t there a 24\/7 emergency vet?","human_ref_B":"Pawp is an emergency insurance for a one-time visit to the ER vet up to $3000. It can be used anywhere, and is directly deposited to your account. I'd look into using that. Even with minor exterior injuries, you desperately need to take your dog to the ER.  It may suck financially, but please don't let your dog suffer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5958.0,"score_ratio":5.2727272727}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u5d2n","c_root_id_B":"i7ufm36","created_at_utc_A":1652041098,"created_at_utc_B":1652045579,"score_A":16,"score_B":116,"human_ref_A":"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/wiki\/index#wiki\\_need\\_to\\_see\\_the\\_vet\\_but\\_can.2019t\\_afford\\_it.21","human_ref_B":"Pawp is an emergency insurance for a one-time visit to the ER vet up to $3000. It can be used anywhere, and is directly deposited to your account. I'd look into using that. Even with minor exterior injuries, you desperately need to take your dog to the ER.  It may suck financially, but please don't let your dog suffer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4481.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7ue4op","c_root_id_B":"i7ufm36","created_at_utc_A":1652044942,"created_at_utc_B":1652045579,"score_A":2,"score_B":116,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to watch that!! Praying for your pup!","human_ref_B":"Pawp is an emergency insurance for a one-time visit to the ER vet up to $3000. It can be used anywhere, and is directly deposited to your account. I'd look into using that. Even with minor exterior injuries, you desperately need to take your dog to the ER.  It may suck financially, but please don't let your dog suffer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":637.0,"score_ratio":58.0}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u21n1","c_root_id_B":"i7u3zzo","created_at_utc_A":1652039621,"created_at_utc_B":1652040480,"score_A":22,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Isn\u2019t there a 24\/7 emergency vet?","human_ref_B":"OTC meds are not safe. Just keep and eye on her and keep her comfortable. If she starts to decline, you may need to take her to the ER and consider applying for CareCredit or ScratchPay.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":859.0,"score_ratio":1.2272727273}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u21n1","c_root_id_B":"i7u8xej","created_at_utc_A":1652039621,"created_at_utc_B":1652042660,"score_A":22,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Isn\u2019t there a 24\/7 emergency vet?","human_ref_B":"I would read the pet insurance policy - she if they reimbursed on emergencies vets, that\u2019s odd the insurance is exclusive to one vet. Review the policy. Internal injuries cannot be detected visually.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3039.0,"score_ratio":1.2272727273}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7u8xej","c_root_id_B":"i7u5d2n","created_at_utc_A":1652042660,"created_at_utc_B":1652041098,"score_A":27,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I would read the pet insurance policy - she if they reimbursed on emergencies vets, that\u2019s odd the insurance is exclusive to one vet. Review the policy. Internal injuries cannot be detected visually.","human_ref_B":"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/wiki\/index#wiki\\_need\\_to\\_see\\_the\\_vet\\_but\\_can.2019t\\_afford\\_it.21","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1562.0,"score_ratio":1.6875}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7vau0n","c_root_id_B":"i7u5d2n","created_at_utc_A":1652060693,"created_at_utc_B":1652041098,"score_A":17,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Op. Call the emergency vet now and ask if they are able to do direct claims with your insurer. If they can then you will need to provide your insurance details and call your insurer to give approval but that should be possible to setup","human_ref_B":"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/wiki\/index#wiki\\_need\\_to\\_see\\_the\\_vet\\_but\\_can.2019t\\_afford\\_it.21","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19595.0,"score_ratio":1.0625}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7ue4op","c_root_id_B":"i7vau0n","created_at_utc_A":1652044942,"created_at_utc_B":1652060693,"score_A":2,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to watch that!! Praying for your pup!","human_ref_B":"Op. Call the emergency vet now and ask if they are able to do direct claims with your insurer. If they can then you will need to provide your insurance details and call your insurer to give approval but that should be possible to setup","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15751.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7vau0n","c_root_id_B":"i7uxu7g","created_at_utc_A":1652060693,"created_at_utc_B":1652054226,"score_A":17,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Op. Call the emergency vet now and ask if they are able to do direct claims with your insurer. If they can then you will need to provide your insurance details and call your insurer to give approval but that should be possible to setup","human_ref_B":"Just here to say I am so sorry!! Hoping she heals up okay!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6467.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7w2hwf","c_root_id_B":"i7ue4op","created_at_utc_A":1652077500,"created_at_utc_B":1652044942,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hope your pup is doing better. Just keep doing your best.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you had to watch that!! Praying for your pup!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":32558.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ul9nfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog was hit by a truck My dog was in an accident today, she has minor cuts and has been eating, she\u2019s in pain when she jumps up and down from furniture and has been coughing and sometimes tries to throw up, she has been walking around and it\u2019s been about 4 hours since she was hit. our vet is closed today, and we won\u2019t be able to take her in till tomorrow, i\u2019m afraid she has internal injuries, is there any type of things I can, or any dog pain medicine I can buy until tomorrow, or signs to look for","c_root_id_A":"i7uxu7g","c_root_id_B":"i7w2hwf","created_at_utc_A":1652054226,"created_at_utc_B":1652077500,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Just here to say I am so sorry!! Hoping she heals up okay!","human_ref_B":"Hope your pup is doing better. Just keep doing your best.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23274.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"t81pub","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"(SERIOUS) my kitten won\u2019t move or walk or meow or eat after having a bath\u2026 I\u2019m very worried. So she has a very fluffy tail and her poop gets on it a lot so I bathed her and used a pet grooming non-harmful soap.  Never used it on her before but it smelled amazing and cleaned her very well.  I was super gentle. When she got out I dried her off a bit and left her internet room on a blanket to lick herself and fry off naturally.  When I came back in she was shaking a lot so I held her for a while till she dried fully.  She is completely fry now and it\u2019s been like 5 hours since the bath but she won\u2019t get up, she seems very lethargic and sleepy and doesn\u2019t any to eat or drinking and is still shaking even tho she has many blankets and cuddles.   I\u2019m worried that the soap might have actually been harmful for a kitten and idk what to do.","c_root_id_A":"hzlfqes","c_root_id_B":"hzl9dik","created_at_utc_A":1646586432,"created_at_utc_B":1646583851,"score_A":120,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"ER immediately","human_ref_B":"How old is the kitten? What is the full name of the shampoo? Has she been having diarrhea and that\u2019s why her poop is getting stuck in her tail? Was she fighting you about being dried off the first time?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2581.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"t81pub","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"(SERIOUS) my kitten won\u2019t move or walk or meow or eat after having a bath\u2026 I\u2019m very worried. So she has a very fluffy tail and her poop gets on it a lot so I bathed her and used a pet grooming non-harmful soap.  Never used it on her before but it smelled amazing and cleaned her very well.  I was super gentle. When she got out I dried her off a bit and left her internet room on a blanket to lick herself and fry off naturally.  When I came back in she was shaking a lot so I held her for a while till she dried fully.  She is completely fry now and it\u2019s been like 5 hours since the bath but she won\u2019t get up, she seems very lethargic and sleepy and doesn\u2019t any to eat or drinking and is still shaking even tho she has many blankets and cuddles.   I\u2019m worried that the soap might have actually been harmful for a kitten and idk what to do.","c_root_id_A":"hzlfsvf","c_root_id_B":"hzmeb7k","created_at_utc_A":1646586460,"created_at_utc_B":1646600770,"score_A":57,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"How old is the kitten? What was the name of the soap?  Bring her to ER immediately, keep her warm on the way.  Just so you know, cats and kitten practically never need to be bathed. Moreover, it's very stressful to them.","human_ref_B":"Are you using a flea shampoo? Those products can be extremely dangerous when used on young cats, and it is honestly horrifying that they are still widely marketed.   Even if not, the signs you are reporting are very serious; I'd recommend taking your kitten to an emergency vet ASAP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14310.0,"score_ratio":1.5263157895}
{"post_id":"t81pub","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"(SERIOUS) my kitten won\u2019t move or walk or meow or eat after having a bath\u2026 I\u2019m very worried. So she has a very fluffy tail and her poop gets on it a lot so I bathed her and used a pet grooming non-harmful soap.  Never used it on her before but it smelled amazing and cleaned her very well.  I was super gentle. When she got out I dried her off a bit and left her internet room on a blanket to lick herself and fry off naturally.  When I came back in she was shaking a lot so I held her for a while till she dried fully.  She is completely fry now and it\u2019s been like 5 hours since the bath but she won\u2019t get up, she seems very lethargic and sleepy and doesn\u2019t any to eat or drinking and is still shaking even tho she has many blankets and cuddles.   I\u2019m worried that the soap might have actually been harmful for a kitten and idk what to do.","c_root_id_A":"hzl9dik","c_root_id_B":"hzmeb7k","created_at_utc_A":1646583851,"created_at_utc_B":1646600770,"score_A":60,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"How old is the kitten? What is the full name of the shampoo? Has she been having diarrhea and that\u2019s why her poop is getting stuck in her tail? Was she fighting you about being dried off the first time?","human_ref_B":"Are you using a flea shampoo? Those products can be extremely dangerous when used on young cats, and it is honestly horrifying that they are still widely marketed.   Even if not, the signs you are reporting are very serious; I'd recommend taking your kitten to an emergency vet ASAP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16919.0,"score_ratio":1.45}
{"post_id":"t81pub","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"(SERIOUS) my kitten won\u2019t move or walk or meow or eat after having a bath\u2026 I\u2019m very worried. So she has a very fluffy tail and her poop gets on it a lot so I bathed her and used a pet grooming non-harmful soap.  Never used it on her before but it smelled amazing and cleaned her very well.  I was super gentle. When she got out I dried her off a bit and left her internet room on a blanket to lick herself and fry off naturally.  When I came back in she was shaking a lot so I held her for a while till she dried fully.  She is completely fry now and it\u2019s been like 5 hours since the bath but she won\u2019t get up, she seems very lethargic and sleepy and doesn\u2019t any to eat or drinking and is still shaking even tho she has many blankets and cuddles.   I\u2019m worried that the soap might have actually been harmful for a kitten and idk what to do.","c_root_id_A":"hzmeb7k","c_root_id_B":"hzln4dg","created_at_utc_A":1646600770,"created_at_utc_B":1646589430,"score_A":87,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Are you using a flea shampoo? Those products can be extremely dangerous when used on young cats, and it is honestly horrifying that they are still widely marketed.   Even if not, the signs you are reporting are very serious; I'd recommend taking your kitten to an emergency vet ASAP.","human_ref_B":"I'll say depending on how much poop was on her, you could take a non-scented baby wipe to spot clean, or a warm wash cloth, versus bathing her fully. Hope she's ok!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11340.0,"score_ratio":1.8913043478}
{"post_id":"n5dxwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My furrbaby (6 years old female shiba inu) starts shaking and panting without a cause. 2 different vets have no idea whats wrong. Please help! She had stomach x-ray, physical exam and complete blood work done, everything is fine on paper but she keeps suffering. The first vet thinks its acid reflux and the second thinks its a seizure called \"petit mal\", meaning the start of epilepsy. I read all I could find about petit mal (and stomach issues in dogs in general) and watched youtube videos how that seizure looks like, and its nothing like what she goes through.   It all began a week ago, Wednesday early morning. She woke me up asking to go potty and had 2 episodes of diarrhea (melted ice-cream type). She couldn't go up the stairs and was panting heavily, her back legs were shaking as well. She had another 2 episodes of diarrhea the following days (same type) and episodes of panting and shaking which began 1 hour after eating and lasted 2 hours. She is drinking and has an appetite (although a bit declined), but she doesn't want to play like she used to. She goes on walks and goes potty fine (back to solids). There were two incidents when she cried a bit when she was about to go number 2, but didn't show signs of straining.   Her \"episodes\" begins with lip smacking and sounds of swallowing. Then she moves alot, tries to find a different position to lie down, like she is uncomfortable. Sometimes she'll lick whatever is close to her so much that it'll leave a wet mark. Then the heavy panting starts, she'll lay on her stomach or side. After that, her back legs will begin to shake and gradualy become so bad that it's hard for her to walk. She wont go down or up the stairs without help, and won't jump on anything. She also has very scared and sad eyes, something I saw only when she's at the vet. But even during that \"episode\" she's reactive, she'll eat treats (I gave her medication that way) and she'll go out for a walk. She isn't absent, it seems more like she is in pain. She was ok when I didn't give her anything to eat for 12 hours, and even better after 24 hours but the vets told me that what I'm doing is bad since she doesn't vomit, so there's no reason to fast her.   I tried:  1.  Activated charcoal (first thought was that its a poisoning) 2.  Metoclopramide (then I thought maybe nausea) 3.  Omeprazole (first vet said its stomach acid issues). 4.  Metamizole (the only one that seems to kinda help).  All those were by vet recommendation except the last one, which I gave her out of my own account. The Metamizole seems to help, 30 minutes after taking it she seems ok and even jumped by herself on her couch.","c_root_id_A":"gx10mgv","c_root_id_B":"gx1m22c","created_at_utc_A":1620223846,"created_at_utc_B":1620232823,"score_A":23,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Have they checked her back for injury?","human_ref_B":"STOP METIMAZOLE and contact your vet! Do not give human medications without advice from your vet - as best I can tell this is an NSAID and I don\u2019t see a dose listing in my formulary, which means it could be quite dangerous.   Consider more advanced diagnostics like ultrasound. How long was she on the omeprazole? Any discussion of esophageal protectants or other pain medications?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8977.0,"score_ratio":1.5217391304}
{"post_id":"n5dxwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My furrbaby (6 years old female shiba inu) starts shaking and panting without a cause. 2 different vets have no idea whats wrong. Please help! She had stomach x-ray, physical exam and complete blood work done, everything is fine on paper but she keeps suffering. The first vet thinks its acid reflux and the second thinks its a seizure called \"petit mal\", meaning the start of epilepsy. I read all I could find about petit mal (and stomach issues in dogs in general) and watched youtube videos how that seizure looks like, and its nothing like what she goes through.   It all began a week ago, Wednesday early morning. She woke me up asking to go potty and had 2 episodes of diarrhea (melted ice-cream type). She couldn't go up the stairs and was panting heavily, her back legs were shaking as well. She had another 2 episodes of diarrhea the following days (same type) and episodes of panting and shaking which began 1 hour after eating and lasted 2 hours. She is drinking and has an appetite (although a bit declined), but she doesn't want to play like she used to. She goes on walks and goes potty fine (back to solids). There were two incidents when she cried a bit when she was about to go number 2, but didn't show signs of straining.   Her \"episodes\" begins with lip smacking and sounds of swallowing. Then she moves alot, tries to find a different position to lie down, like she is uncomfortable. Sometimes she'll lick whatever is close to her so much that it'll leave a wet mark. Then the heavy panting starts, she'll lay on her stomach or side. After that, her back legs will begin to shake and gradualy become so bad that it's hard for her to walk. She wont go down or up the stairs without help, and won't jump on anything. She also has very scared and sad eyes, something I saw only when she's at the vet. But even during that \"episode\" she's reactive, she'll eat treats (I gave her medication that way) and she'll go out for a walk. She isn't absent, it seems more like she is in pain. She was ok when I didn't give her anything to eat for 12 hours, and even better after 24 hours but the vets told me that what I'm doing is bad since she doesn't vomit, so there's no reason to fast her.   I tried:  1.  Activated charcoal (first thought was that its a poisoning) 2.  Metoclopramide (then I thought maybe nausea) 3.  Omeprazole (first vet said its stomach acid issues). 4.  Metamizole (the only one that seems to kinda help).  All those were by vet recommendation except the last one, which I gave her out of my own account. The Metamizole seems to help, 30 minutes after taking it she seems ok and even jumped by herself on her couch.","c_root_id_A":"gx1m22c","c_root_id_B":"gx1aj2x","created_at_utc_A":1620232823,"created_at_utc_B":1620228133,"score_A":35,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"STOP METIMAZOLE and contact your vet! Do not give human medications without advice from your vet - as best I can tell this is an NSAID and I don\u2019t see a dose listing in my formulary, which means it could be quite dangerous.   Consider more advanced diagnostics like ultrasound. How long was she on the omeprazole? Any discussion of esophageal protectants or other pain medications?","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry that I can't do more for you but do have two suggestions:  \u2022 If your furbaby experiences this again, please film it, if you haven'talready. Perhaps seeing it themselves may help them better understand what's afflicting her.  \u2022 And please consider taking her to a veterinary internist. Their training is a bit more specialized than a DVM's.  Best wishes to your precious for a speedy, healthy recovery.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4690.0,"score_ratio":11.6666666667}
{"post_id":"n5dxwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My furrbaby (6 years old female shiba inu) starts shaking and panting without a cause. 2 different vets have no idea whats wrong. Please help! She had stomach x-ray, physical exam and complete blood work done, everything is fine on paper but she keeps suffering. The first vet thinks its acid reflux and the second thinks its a seizure called \"petit mal\", meaning the start of epilepsy. I read all I could find about petit mal (and stomach issues in dogs in general) and watched youtube videos how that seizure looks like, and its nothing like what she goes through.   It all began a week ago, Wednesday early morning. She woke me up asking to go potty and had 2 episodes of diarrhea (melted ice-cream type). She couldn't go up the stairs and was panting heavily, her back legs were shaking as well. She had another 2 episodes of diarrhea the following days (same type) and episodes of panting and shaking which began 1 hour after eating and lasted 2 hours. She is drinking and has an appetite (although a bit declined), but she doesn't want to play like she used to. She goes on walks and goes potty fine (back to solids). There were two incidents when she cried a bit when she was about to go number 2, but didn't show signs of straining.   Her \"episodes\" begins with lip smacking and sounds of swallowing. Then she moves alot, tries to find a different position to lie down, like she is uncomfortable. Sometimes she'll lick whatever is close to her so much that it'll leave a wet mark. Then the heavy panting starts, she'll lay on her stomach or side. After that, her back legs will begin to shake and gradualy become so bad that it's hard for her to walk. She wont go down or up the stairs without help, and won't jump on anything. She also has very scared and sad eyes, something I saw only when she's at the vet. But even during that \"episode\" she's reactive, she'll eat treats (I gave her medication that way) and she'll go out for a walk. She isn't absent, it seems more like she is in pain. She was ok when I didn't give her anything to eat for 12 hours, and even better after 24 hours but the vets told me that what I'm doing is bad since she doesn't vomit, so there's no reason to fast her.   I tried:  1.  Activated charcoal (first thought was that its a poisoning) 2.  Metoclopramide (then I thought maybe nausea) 3.  Omeprazole (first vet said its stomach acid issues). 4.  Metamizole (the only one that seems to kinda help).  All those were by vet recommendation except the last one, which I gave her out of my own account. The Metamizole seems to help, 30 minutes after taking it she seems ok and even jumped by herself on her couch.","c_root_id_A":"gx3503k","c_root_id_B":"gx1aj2x","created_at_utc_A":1620256335,"created_at_utc_B":1620228133,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Has she been checked for an intestinal blockage with an ultrasound exam?  Posting a second comment posing a question because my first comment might get deleted for being an anecdote.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry that I can't do more for you but do have two suggestions:  \u2022 If your furbaby experiences this again, please film it, if you haven'talready. Perhaps seeing it themselves may help them better understand what's afflicting her.  \u2022 And please consider taking her to a veterinary internist. Their training is a bit more specialized than a DVM's.  Best wishes to your precious for a speedy, healthy recovery.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28202.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ikpwq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Amputate kittens leg? My 4 month old kitten broke her femur in a place that is crucial for leg growth. My vet said our options are to pin the bone, which may not work and her injured left hind leg may be about 25%shorter than her other legs. It would also cost up to \u20ac800.   Option 2 is to amputate her leg, which the vet advocated for. This would cost around \u20ac400.   Or we could leave her with a splint and cast for a few weeks and see how it goes but he was not optimistic about this option.   I have attached images of her xray http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/Z35XNTW  I would like a second opinion basically on what the best option is and prices etc.  We are leaning toward amputation because it would hopefully not impact her quality of life to greatly once she heals and gets used to it. Plus while it would take most of our savings, it wouldn't bankrupt is by any means.   Any advice appreciated","c_root_id_A":"g3nc3jp","c_root_id_B":"g3ng33k","created_at_utc_A":1598997715,"created_at_utc_B":1598999536,"score_A":35,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Nothing wrong with amputation. An orthopaedic specialist might choose to do something different. Up to you whether you pursue that option or not.","human_ref_B":"Option three is to consult with an orthopedic surgeon and see what they recommend, but that's going to be more expensive than either option you list here.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1821.0,"score_ratio":1.8285714286}
{"post_id":"ikpwq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Amputate kittens leg? My 4 month old kitten broke her femur in a place that is crucial for leg growth. My vet said our options are to pin the bone, which may not work and her injured left hind leg may be about 25%shorter than her other legs. It would also cost up to \u20ac800.   Option 2 is to amputate her leg, which the vet advocated for. This would cost around \u20ac400.   Or we could leave her with a splint and cast for a few weeks and see how it goes but he was not optimistic about this option.   I have attached images of her xray http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/Z35XNTW  I would like a second opinion basically on what the best option is and prices etc.  We are leaning toward amputation because it would hopefully not impact her quality of life to greatly once she heals and gets used to it. Plus while it would take most of our savings, it wouldn't bankrupt is by any means.   Any advice appreciated","c_root_id_A":"g3n3xtz","c_root_id_B":"g3ng33k","created_at_utc_A":1598994026,"created_at_utc_B":1598999536,"score_A":17,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet just a pet owner, but if you're leaning towards amputation, why not just leave the splint and cast for a few weeks then and see if it heals fine, and if it doesn't then go ahead and amputate? Ideally maybe she doesn't need any kind of surgery. I would say amputate right away if she's in pain, but if not, then there's no rush I don't think.","human_ref_B":"Option three is to consult with an orthopedic surgeon and see what they recommend, but that's going to be more expensive than either option you list here.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5510.0,"score_ratio":3.7647058824}
{"post_id":"ikpwq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Amputate kittens leg? My 4 month old kitten broke her femur in a place that is crucial for leg growth. My vet said our options are to pin the bone, which may not work and her injured left hind leg may be about 25%shorter than her other legs. It would also cost up to \u20ac800.   Option 2 is to amputate her leg, which the vet advocated for. This would cost around \u20ac400.   Or we could leave her with a splint and cast for a few weeks and see how it goes but he was not optimistic about this option.   I have attached images of her xray http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/Z35XNTW  I would like a second opinion basically on what the best option is and prices etc.  We are leaning toward amputation because it would hopefully not impact her quality of life to greatly once she heals and gets used to it. Plus while it would take most of our savings, it wouldn't bankrupt is by any means.   Any advice appreciated","c_root_id_A":"g3nc3jp","c_root_id_B":"g3n3xtz","created_at_utc_A":1598997715,"created_at_utc_B":1598994026,"score_A":35,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Nothing wrong with amputation. An orthopaedic specialist might choose to do something different. Up to you whether you pursue that option or not.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet just a pet owner, but if you're leaning towards amputation, why not just leave the splint and cast for a few weeks then and see if it heals fine, and if it doesn't then go ahead and amputate? Ideally maybe she doesn't need any kind of surgery. I would say amputate right away if she's in pain, but if not, then there's no rush I don't think.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3689.0,"score_ratio":2.0588235294}
{"post_id":"ikpwq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Amputate kittens leg? My 4 month old kitten broke her femur in a place that is crucial for leg growth. My vet said our options are to pin the bone, which may not work and her injured left hind leg may be about 25%shorter than her other legs. It would also cost up to \u20ac800.   Option 2 is to amputate her leg, which the vet advocated for. This would cost around \u20ac400.   Or we could leave her with a splint and cast for a few weeks and see how it goes but he was not optimistic about this option.   I have attached images of her xray http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/Z35XNTW  I would like a second opinion basically on what the best option is and prices etc.  We are leaning toward amputation because it would hopefully not impact her quality of life to greatly once she heals and gets used to it. Plus while it would take most of our savings, it wouldn't bankrupt is by any means.   Any advice appreciated","c_root_id_A":"g3n3xtz","c_root_id_B":"g3nkqqo","created_at_utc_A":1598994026,"created_at_utc_B":1599001820,"score_A":17,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet just a pet owner, but if you're leaning towards amputation, why not just leave the splint and cast for a few weeks then and see if it heals fine, and if it doesn't then go ahead and amputate? Ideally maybe she doesn't need any kind of surgery. I would say amputate right away if she's in pain, but if not, then there's no rush I don't think.","human_ref_B":"Being so young she should adjust the loss of a leg easily, if that is something your worried about with amputation.  I suggest going to another vet and getting a second opinion. I think a second opinion would probably make you feel better about your choice.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7794.0,"score_ratio":1.9411764706}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61ote4","c_root_id_B":"f616bvu","created_at_utc_A":1572643609,"created_at_utc_B":1572634124,"score_A":109,"score_B":94,"human_ref_A":"Consider an appointment with a veterinary neurologist. You don't need a referral, you can just make an appointment. Video one of the episodes to bring with you.","human_ref_B":"If they are insisting it is weed ask if they will do an at home test. Most grocery stores\/ cvs\/ walgreens have them and they are only about $10. They are not super accurate but maybe if it negative they will consider doing other tests.  Or go to another vet and get another opinion. That perfectly in your right and maybe don't mention what the other vet thought about the  diagnosis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9485.0,"score_ratio":1.1595744681}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61ote4","c_root_id_B":"f61m77j","created_at_utc_A":1572643609,"created_at_utc_B":1572642484,"score_A":109,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"Consider an appointment with a veterinary neurologist. You don't need a referral, you can just make an appointment. Video one of the episodes to bring with you.","human_ref_B":"See a neurologist to rule out brain, neurological or seizure concerns","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1125.0,"score_ratio":2.0961538462}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61ote4","c_root_id_B":"f61cr33","created_at_utc_A":1572643609,"created_at_utc_B":1572637943,"score_A":109,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Consider an appointment with a veterinary neurologist. You don't need a referral, you can just make an appointment. Video one of the episodes to bring with you.","human_ref_B":"Do you have neighbors (people do shitty things all the time, or maybe they think they're being cool?) Or property with natural marijuana plants you may not have recognized?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5666.0,"score_ratio":3.0277777778}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61ote4","c_root_id_B":"f61m6er","created_at_utc_A":1572643609,"created_at_utc_B":1572642475,"score_A":109,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Consider an appointment with a veterinary neurologist. You don't need a referral, you can just make an appointment. Video one of the episodes to bring with you.","human_ref_B":"What's your living situation, and are you certain that nobody in your household has a stash? Either way, as has been said, drug tests are also available for dogs, so you should talk to your vet about running one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1134.0,"score_ratio":6.4117647059}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61m77j","c_root_id_B":"f61cr33","created_at_utc_A":1572642484,"created_at_utc_B":1572637943,"score_A":52,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"See a neurologist to rule out brain, neurological or seizure concerns","human_ref_B":"Do you have neighbors (people do shitty things all the time, or maybe they think they're being cool?) Or property with natural marijuana plants you may not have recognized?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4541.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"dq7vz4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"I think there\u2019s something wrong with my dog but vets won\u2019t take me seriously?!? I have a 105 pound bloodhound (4years old ) I\u2019ve had her since she was about a year? We don\u2019t really know because she was a rescue.   About a year ago she woke up one morning and couldn\u2019t walk. She was looking like she was drunk and then shortly after just couldn\u2019t even walk. Was throwing up and lost control of her bladder. She was completely unresponsive and her eyes were totally glazed over. We took her into the emergency vet and they said that she had probably digest some weed. And that these were all the common signs. I told them we don\u2019t smoke and there was no way she could\u2019ve gotten into any. But I really don\u2019t think they were listening. They gave her an IV and basically said that any other tests were a waste of money because her getting into some weed was the most probable cause. She was better in a few days so I just left it at that.   In the last year we have had three other scares like this. I\u2019ve taken her to two other vets and I just feel like they are not listening!! There is NO weed in the house and for it to continue into a pattern like this makes me scared that there is something wrong. They did x-rays at one point and didn\u2019t find anything. She had another scare last night and is still currently at the vet. And the vet is still insisting she had ingested weed.   Are there any test I should ask specifically for to figure this out? Has anyone seen anything like this before?? Help!","c_root_id_A":"f61m77j","c_root_id_B":"f61m6er","created_at_utc_A":1572642484,"created_at_utc_B":1572642475,"score_A":52,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"See a neurologist to rule out brain, neurological or seizure concerns","human_ref_B":"What's your living situation, and are you certain that nobody in your household has a stash? Either way, as has been said, drug tests are also available for dogs, so you should talk to your vet about running one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9.0,"score_ratio":3.0588235294}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gur2bqc","c_root_id_B":"gurld9n","created_at_utc_A":1618596514,"created_at_utc_B":1618605104,"score_A":28,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"When was the last full blood work panel and fecal check performed?","human_ref_B":"You may be able to add in some veggies or fruit to increase volume without adding many calories, broccoli and apple slices come to mind (though start slowly because you can see flatulence!). Another option would be to get low sodium broth and make her some ice cube treats to give out periodically. You can freeze small blocks, ice cubes, or directly inside dog toys like kongs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8590.0,"score_ratio":1.0357142857}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gur48ab","c_root_id_B":"gurld9n","created_at_utc_A":1618597362,"created_at_utc_B":1618605104,"score_A":18,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Just here to follow for the responses. My lab (slightly younger) is in the same boat and I am curious to see what vets have to say.","human_ref_B":"You may be able to add in some veggies or fruit to increase volume without adding many calories, broccoli and apple slices come to mind (though start slowly because you can see flatulence!). Another option would be to get low sodium broth and make her some ice cube treats to give out periodically. You can freeze small blocks, ice cubes, or directly inside dog toys like kongs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7742.0,"score_ratio":1.6111111111}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gur8ryk","c_root_id_B":"gurld9n","created_at_utc_A":1618599403,"created_at_utc_B":1618605104,"score_A":16,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Wet foods are often less calorie dense - therefore pets have to eat  larger volume to get the same amount of calories. This can make them feel fuller. Talk to your vet about a good option for her (you must confirm that is is actually less calorie dense than what she is already on, and that it will meet her nutritional needs). The main issue with this is you go through a LOT of cans.","human_ref_B":"You may be able to add in some veggies or fruit to increase volume without adding many calories, broccoli and apple slices come to mind (though start slowly because you can see flatulence!). Another option would be to get low sodium broth and make her some ice cube treats to give out periodically. You can freeze small blocks, ice cubes, or directly inside dog toys like kongs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5701.0,"score_ratio":1.8125}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gurld9n","c_root_id_B":"gur5izd","created_at_utc_A":1618605104,"created_at_utc_B":1618597943,"score_A":29,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You may be able to add in some veggies or fruit to increase volume without adding many calories, broccoli and apple slices come to mind (though start slowly because you can see flatulence!). Another option would be to get low sodium broth and make her some ice cube treats to give out periodically. You can freeze small blocks, ice cubes, or directly inside dog toys like kongs.","human_ref_B":"Have they tested her blood sugar levels and thyroid function?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7161.0,"score_ratio":1.8125}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gurug2a","c_root_id_B":"gus42xa","created_at_utc_A":1618609350,"created_at_utc_B":1618614270,"score_A":4,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Steamed cauliflower or broccoli added to meals could add a lot more volume and low calories to help make your dog feel full for longer.","human_ref_B":"Gabepentin causes insatiable hunger.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4920.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gus42xa","c_root_id_B":"guro5n3","created_at_utc_A":1618614270,"created_at_utc_B":1618606348,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Gabepentin causes insatiable hunger.","human_ref_B":"Could do a fecal test to make sure there's nothing funny in there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7922.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gurug2a","c_root_id_B":"gusrt9v","created_at_utc_A":1618609350,"created_at_utc_B":1618627161,"score_A":4,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Steamed cauliflower or broccoli added to meals could add a lot more volume and low calories to help make your dog feel full for longer.","human_ref_B":"Vet nurse from Australia here \ud83d\ude4b\u200d\u2640\ufe0f Maybe you could ask your vet about switching her dry food to Hills PD metabolic + mobility. It helps with weight loss as well has helps to keep them feeling full with the added extras for joint support. And if your vet doesn't think there would be adequate joint support provided by this food there are also other supplements like 4cyte and injections called cartrophen which help keep joints lubricated to prevent pain from OA. Obviously seek your vets advice first before switching foods etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17811.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"gusrt9v","c_root_id_B":"guro5n3","created_at_utc_A":1618627161,"created_at_utc_B":1618606348,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Vet nurse from Australia here \ud83d\ude4b\u200d\u2640\ufe0f Maybe you could ask your vet about switching her dry food to Hills PD metabolic + mobility. It helps with weight loss as well has helps to keep them feeling full with the added extras for joint support. And if your vet doesn't think there would be adequate joint support provided by this food there are also other supplements like 4cyte and injections called cartrophen which help keep joints lubricated to prevent pain from OA. Obviously seek your vets advice first before switching foods etc.","human_ref_B":"Could do a fecal test to make sure there's nothing funny in there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20813.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"ms6sp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My elderly Labrador is constantly hungry to the point of distress Hi, I\u2019m just hoping for some advice regarding my Labrador, Molly. Her details are as follows:  Age: almost 14 (August birthday)  Weight: approx 34kg (75lb)  Health background: arthritis in her left knee and lumbar spine, some minor issues with incontinence\/recurring UTI\u2019s but it\u2019s now under control.   Medications: 30kg dose of meloxicam 1x daily, gabapentin 300mg 2x daily, stilboestrol 1mg 1x weekly (did a week of 3mg\/day in September 2020)  Supplements: Vetalogica Tranquil long-acting chews, plus VitaRapid Calming Treats at night (they\u2019re basically a mix of B vitamins and tryptophan, chamomile etc)  Diet: a 1\/3 to 2\/3 mix of Prime100 kangaroo and pumpkin roll and Hill\u2019s prescription Joint Diet.   *Please note that I\u2019m Australian so I don\u2019t know if the brands above are available elsewhere, but this has all been suggested or approved by her vet of 3yrs.  The problem:  As with most Labradors, we have struggled with Molly\u2019s weight for years. She started on the prescription diet a year ago, and we\u2019ve been trying to get her weight down to 32kg (70.5lb) We did some X-rays of her back end at the start of 2021 and at the time, our vet suggested reduce her portions by 20% - we had previously been feeding her the portions for a 30kg dog. We\u2019ve been struggling with her appetite ever since.   She will literally eat anything she can find - paper, tissues, plastic wrappers, veggie scraps, dog poo, cat poo. She\u2019s broken 2 kitchen bins in search of food. We have to watch her like a hawk. She gets distressed and barks when she can\u2019t find anything - the anxiety supplements have her \u201cold age anxiety\u201d under control but haven\u2019t made a difference with this.  There\u2019s no sign of anything sinister - the vet says she\u2019s fine. I\u2019m just wondering if there\u2019s anything I can do to help her feel fuller. I\u2019ve tried soaking her kibble and switching her from 2 to 3 meals per day but it hasn\u2019t helped. She has a goat horn to chew on as well. I\u2019m just not sure what else I can try, and we\u2019ve actually got a much younger\/newer vet at the moment as our usual one went on maternity leave in March - the current one is great when it comes to the strictly medical side, but doesn\u2019t have a very wide knowledge about supplements\/holistic stuff yet (not holding that against her at all - she\u2019s still finding her feet!).","c_root_id_A":"guro5n3","c_root_id_B":"gurug2a","created_at_utc_A":1618606348,"created_at_utc_B":1618609350,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Could do a fecal test to make sure there's nothing funny in there.","human_ref_B":"Steamed cauliflower or broccoli added to meals could add a lot more volume and low calories to help make your dog feel full for longer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3002.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"l7fexo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Bloody cyst between cat\u2019s toes This is gross folks. My cat Harvey had a bleeding \u201cbump\u201d between his toes. It was in the \u201cweb\u201d of his feet adjacent to his nail. Took him to the vet two days ago and she dismissed it as a wound. Hit him with some antiseptic and sent me on my way. For context, the vet is no contact so all correspondence is over the phone.   Today bloody footprints were all over the house. Harv was not happy. I picked him up to apply the antiseptic and did something unwise - I squeezed the bump. Though I was gentle, it looked like the entire bump\/cyst began protruding from the skin at the pressure. Not rupturing - no liquid, but coming out entirely. Harv started getting upset with me and the bleeding got worse. I freaked out.   Brought him back the vet explaining that his wound was coming out of his skin and I was really nervous for him. She shot him up with an antibiotic and basically told me the mass I was referring to was just dry blood. No way, lady! That thing was the size of a bean and it was white! How could she get it mixed up as just dried blood??  Got home and, well, turns out she didn\u2019t see what I saw because the mass was lying in a spot of blood on my pillow - eww!  It must have been expelled shortly after I placed Harvey back on the ground earlier.   Question - should I bring this thing in for a biopsy? Might this happen again? Pencil for scale, but it\u2019s about the size of a pea.   photo of mass","c_root_id_A":"gl79u0q","c_root_id_B":"gl74490","created_at_utc_A":1611899531,"created_at_utc_B":1611896507,"score_A":66,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry but your vet sounds super dismissive and doesn\u2019t seem to be listening to your very valid concerns. I would suggest seeing another vet.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re worried definitely bring it in and have a pathologist look at it. Since your vet seemed dismissive I would insist on having it sent off to pathology if that would ease your mind. Sometimes not having anxiety over a pets medical issue is worth the extra $200!  However, changes are this was just a harmless cyst or ingrown hair!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3024.0,"score_ratio":1.32}
{"post_id":"hr3ofy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Shouldn't vet office go over meds with me? 3 month old Lynx Point Siamese kitten.  Guessing he is around 3lb though none of his discharge papers say his weight from the vet.  I mentioned, again, to the vet he is sneezing still. He was a feral stray that I caught and was sneezing when I caught him. Located in CA  Brought in my kitten for second round of shots and mentioned again he is, still, sneezing which he was since I caught him as a stray outside. They did not give shots due to they found a respiratory infection and gave me antibiotics (Clavamox...i may be spelling it wrong...Augmentin for pets)  I'm not allowed to go into appointment with him due to COVID (not a fan honestly) so when he was discharged I was literally handed the medication bag and my kitten and that was it. No instructions or nothing. Directions said take 0.3ml twice a day until finished. Its a 15ml bottle...so if I was dumb enough, it would last 20 days!  Being a pharmacy technician myself, I know to read bottles and saw this on had to be refrigeratorated as well as, like most reconstituted medications, good for only 10 days.   For the vets here, is this normal to not go over meds with patients? I'm pretty POed that my vet possibly missed an infection on my kitten when he was 2 months old when I first took him in and now just not explaining medications?","c_root_id_A":"fy27y6t","c_root_id_B":"fy21ofc","created_at_utc_A":1594751010,"created_at_utc_B":1594748069,"score_A":51,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"We're human, and with COVID-19, mistakes are going to be made. Calling them to explain is the right thing to do, and it solves your problem.","human_ref_B":"That's not normal. Someone should go over the med with you, even if you pick up the same med every month for years. They should always remind you how much to give and how often, if it needs to be kept cold, if you will need to continue the med beyond what's in the bottle, etc. Any side effects as well. What to expect, when to expect to see results from it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2941.0,"score_ratio":1.59375}
{"post_id":"hr3ofy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Shouldn't vet office go over meds with me? 3 month old Lynx Point Siamese kitten.  Guessing he is around 3lb though none of his discharge papers say his weight from the vet.  I mentioned, again, to the vet he is sneezing still. He was a feral stray that I caught and was sneezing when I caught him. Located in CA  Brought in my kitten for second round of shots and mentioned again he is, still, sneezing which he was since I caught him as a stray outside. They did not give shots due to they found a respiratory infection and gave me antibiotics (Clavamox...i may be spelling it wrong...Augmentin for pets)  I'm not allowed to go into appointment with him due to COVID (not a fan honestly) so when he was discharged I was literally handed the medication bag and my kitten and that was it. No instructions or nothing. Directions said take 0.3ml twice a day until finished. Its a 15ml bottle...so if I was dumb enough, it would last 20 days!  Being a pharmacy technician myself, I know to read bottles and saw this on had to be refrigeratorated as well as, like most reconstituted medications, good for only 10 days.   For the vets here, is this normal to not go over meds with patients? I'm pretty POed that my vet possibly missed an infection on my kitten when he was 2 months old when I first took him in and now just not explaining medications?","c_root_id_A":"fy2shs7","c_root_id_B":"fy30snl","created_at_utc_A":1594760794,"created_at_utc_B":1594764903,"score_A":13,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I was a pharmacy tech too, even pharmacies rarely go over new meds.","human_ref_B":"The instructions are on the bottle\/bag. It\u2019s an oral medication and it\u2019s a liquid so... pretty easy. If you have trouble, you can call your vet office and tell them that.  Seems like you just want to be mad about something (\u201cnot a fan\u201d of not being able to go in due to COVID... lol ok). The lives of veterinary staff are important. Sit in the car and don\u2019t complain about it.  EDIT: if you don\u2019t want to use this bottle for more than 10 days, call them and get another to finish a total of 15ml.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4109.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"hr3ofy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Shouldn't vet office go over meds with me? 3 month old Lynx Point Siamese kitten.  Guessing he is around 3lb though none of his discharge papers say his weight from the vet.  I mentioned, again, to the vet he is sneezing still. He was a feral stray that I caught and was sneezing when I caught him. Located in CA  Brought in my kitten for second round of shots and mentioned again he is, still, sneezing which he was since I caught him as a stray outside. They did not give shots due to they found a respiratory infection and gave me antibiotics (Clavamox...i may be spelling it wrong...Augmentin for pets)  I'm not allowed to go into appointment with him due to COVID (not a fan honestly) so when he was discharged I was literally handed the medication bag and my kitten and that was it. No instructions or nothing. Directions said take 0.3ml twice a day until finished. Its a 15ml bottle...so if I was dumb enough, it would last 20 days!  Being a pharmacy technician myself, I know to read bottles and saw this on had to be refrigeratorated as well as, like most reconstituted medications, good for only 10 days.   For the vets here, is this normal to not go over meds with patients? I'm pretty POed that my vet possibly missed an infection on my kitten when he was 2 months old when I first took him in and now just not explaining medications?","c_root_id_A":"fy30snl","c_root_id_B":"fy2bnro","created_at_utc_A":1594764903,"created_at_utc_B":1594752753,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"The instructions are on the bottle\/bag. It\u2019s an oral medication and it\u2019s a liquid so... pretty easy. If you have trouble, you can call your vet office and tell them that.  Seems like you just want to be mad about something (\u201cnot a fan\u201d of not being able to go in due to COVID... lol ok). The lives of veterinary staff are important. Sit in the car and don\u2019t complain about it.  EDIT: if you don\u2019t want to use this bottle for more than 10 days, call them and get another to finish a total of 15ml.","human_ref_B":"Depends where you are but at my clinic for straight forward cases like this we don't send discharge notes, just meds with instructions on dosing and I don't think I've ever given an owner weights unless asked or if given a puppy\/kitten book to record it. They should have the weight on file if you wanted you could ask for it but I don't think it is reasonable to expect a lot more than the meds with the instructions on them, but hopefully someone talked to you in person about the findings. Yes there is probably a mistake with the labeling of the drug (discard in 10 days and refrigerate), summer there may be summer students or whoever assisting and things can go awry. You can give them a call and ask for clarification. It is hard to say what your vet saw at 2 months but it very well could have been viral at that time since most sneezing in cats is viral and now there may be a secondary infection. I don't think it is fair to say that they missed something the first time around. It sounds like you have a lot of distrust for this vet from your complaints about the weight and sneezing let alone the meds so it might be better to take your business elsewhere because the veterinary client relationship needs to be a two way street.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12150.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"hr3ofy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Shouldn't vet office go over meds with me? 3 month old Lynx Point Siamese kitten.  Guessing he is around 3lb though none of his discharge papers say his weight from the vet.  I mentioned, again, to the vet he is sneezing still. He was a feral stray that I caught and was sneezing when I caught him. Located in CA  Brought in my kitten for second round of shots and mentioned again he is, still, sneezing which he was since I caught him as a stray outside. They did not give shots due to they found a respiratory infection and gave me antibiotics (Clavamox...i may be spelling it wrong...Augmentin for pets)  I'm not allowed to go into appointment with him due to COVID (not a fan honestly) so when he was discharged I was literally handed the medication bag and my kitten and that was it. No instructions or nothing. Directions said take 0.3ml twice a day until finished. Its a 15ml bottle...so if I was dumb enough, it would last 20 days!  Being a pharmacy technician myself, I know to read bottles and saw this on had to be refrigeratorated as well as, like most reconstituted medications, good for only 10 days.   For the vets here, is this normal to not go over meds with patients? I'm pretty POed that my vet possibly missed an infection on my kitten when he was 2 months old when I first took him in and now just not explaining medications?","c_root_id_A":"fy2shs7","c_root_id_B":"fy2bnro","created_at_utc_A":1594760794,"created_at_utc_B":1594752753,"score_A":13,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I was a pharmacy tech too, even pharmacies rarely go over new meds.","human_ref_B":"Depends where you are but at my clinic for straight forward cases like this we don't send discharge notes, just meds with instructions on dosing and I don't think I've ever given an owner weights unless asked or if given a puppy\/kitten book to record it. They should have the weight on file if you wanted you could ask for it but I don't think it is reasonable to expect a lot more than the meds with the instructions on them, but hopefully someone talked to you in person about the findings. Yes there is probably a mistake with the labeling of the drug (discard in 10 days and refrigerate), summer there may be summer students or whoever assisting and things can go awry. You can give them a call and ask for clarification. It is hard to say what your vet saw at 2 months but it very well could have been viral at that time since most sneezing in cats is viral and now there may be a secondary infection. I don't think it is fair to say that they missed something the first time around. It sounds like you have a lot of distrust for this vet from your complaints about the weight and sneezing let alone the meds so it might be better to take your business elsewhere because the veterinary client relationship needs to be a two way street.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8041.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"gy49ob","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"2 month of kitten, I think his eye is rotting and I don\u2019t know if it can wait until the 16th for his next appointment. Like the title implies, I have a two month old male kitten. Obligatory on mobile. Photos of complaint linked at the bottom.   **Info\/history** I got him appx a month ago on May 11th. He was a month old when I got him, putting his birthday around early April.   He is a domestic short hair, born in a barn. His birthing environment was one where there were at least 8 adult cats, all unfixed, constantly producing litters.   When I got him, the couple told me he had an eye infection. They\u2019d been treating him with tractor supply brand antibiotics.   His initial vet appointment found him to be 1.1 pounds. He had a lot of fleas and ticks, which we believe has been combed \/ washed off.   **Chief Complaint** While everything else has improved, his eye has gotten straight fucked.   The vet initially gave us an antibiotic eye drop to give to him multiple times a day. For the first week, it cleared up significantly and we could see signs of his eye improving underneath. Unfortunately it\u2019s taken a bad turn for the worse these past few days.   Idk what this is... or what to do. I\u2019m afraid we may have to take his eye, or he is going blind.   I\u2019ve attached a progression of photos here from the day I got him to now. In the middle photos & video you can see how the cloudiness was starting to disappear.   The last 3 photos are *ALL FROM TODAY.*  His next vet appt is the 16th and I\u2019ve called everyday for the past week but unfortunately there is no getting in sooner than that.  Should I take him to an emergency, or can it wait?","c_root_id_A":"ft8kz6k","c_root_id_B":"ft8j98x","created_at_utc_A":1591503688,"created_at_utc_B":1591502507,"score_A":45,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"The couple you got him from needs to be reported, and the cats taken away from them. The poor animals living in such terrible conditions...","human_ref_B":"Eye issues should always be seen ASAP! If they persist for too long eye removal may be the only option (one eyed animals are great, but it\u2019s a last resort procedure).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1181.0,"score_ratio":2.0454545455}
{"post_id":"vj7fqc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Pet Cat Found Dead Under Strange Conditions - Seeking Potential Help? So we have two cats, Millie and Cindy. A few days ago we found Millie dead in the backyard. She was bleeding from her ears and nose, but had no signs of physical damage. No cuts and no broken bones. She was also soaking wet when we saw her in the morning. We do have a pool so it\u2019s possible she drowned, but we found her in the yard about 20 feet away from the pool. We live in the South so it was likely the dew.   Our other cat, Cindy, is nowhere to be seen since we found her sister(2 days). So we are wondering if she ran away after finding Millie dead or if something also happened to Cindy. Is it common for cats to run off their companion dies? And can anyone offer insight on way may have happened to Millie? We don\u2019t expect any human foul play and an attack from another animal seems unlikely as she had no physical damage other than the bleeding in her ears and nose. I should also say both cats are only a few years old.  Any help I\u2019d appreciate, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"idi30lr","c_root_id_B":"idi8t1e","created_at_utc_A":1656031754,"created_at_utc_B":1656034555,"score_A":44,"score_B":123,"human_ref_A":"i worry you should expect human foul play, get a necropsy tho","human_ref_B":"This has happened before if cats eat mice that have been poisoned nearby. I hope you get the answers you need.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2801.0,"score_ratio":2.7954545455}
{"post_id":"vj7fqc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Pet Cat Found Dead Under Strange Conditions - Seeking Potential Help? So we have two cats, Millie and Cindy. A few days ago we found Millie dead in the backyard. She was bleeding from her ears and nose, but had no signs of physical damage. No cuts and no broken bones. She was also soaking wet when we saw her in the morning. We do have a pool so it\u2019s possible she drowned, but we found her in the yard about 20 feet away from the pool. We live in the South so it was likely the dew.   Our other cat, Cindy, is nowhere to be seen since we found her sister(2 days). So we are wondering if she ran away after finding Millie dead or if something also happened to Cindy. Is it common for cats to run off their companion dies? And can anyone offer insight on way may have happened to Millie? We don\u2019t expect any human foul play and an attack from another animal seems unlikely as she had no physical damage other than the bleeding in her ears and nose. I should also say both cats are only a few years old.  Any help I\u2019d appreciate, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"idi70hd","c_root_id_B":"idi8t1e","created_at_utc_A":1656033683,"created_at_utc_B":1656034555,"score_A":9,"score_B":123,"human_ref_A":"Necropsy","human_ref_B":"This has happened before if cats eat mice that have been poisoned nearby. I hope you get the answers you need.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":872.0,"score_ratio":13.6666666667}
{"post_id":"eei68k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cats keep kneading on me, then licking their erect penis. Long story short, I have unrelated 2 tuxedo cats that I got as strays. One lives at my boyfriend's house, the other lives with my mom. I see both daily. My cat at my mom's house is 12 or so and he was neutered before he was 1. About a year ago, within some relative time frame, he picked up 2 habits. He began the habit of peeing on clothes\/towels left on any floor (if nothing is left on the floor he doesn't pee anywhere but his litter box), and a separate habit, he kneads on me for about 10 minutes and then licks his erect penis. He will do this multiple times a day if I let him, and if I move even a little while he's kneading, he meows pretty loud and sounds agitated. I rarely see him licking his manhood on his own, and my mother hasn't mentioned this \"kneading\" thing happening to her. I took him to a vet and can't recall what they said, but I was left with the impression it was no big deal).  My cat at my boyfriend's house is about 4, was also neutered before he was 1, and within 24 hours he's now done the same thing as my other cat twice, kneading on me for a few minutes then licking his erect penis. I don't believe he has any issues peeing but this is a new habit. This cat likely has FIV but I only got basic bloodwork, didn't opt for the $300 bloodwork just to confirm.  Neither cat meows in a way that sounds painful, only a \"give me attention\" sort of way.  I am in Arizona, both cats are strictly indoors only.  What is happening?! I'm sick of seeing cat penises! (This isn't a weird sexual thing regarding either cat, right?)","c_root_id_A":"fbuw8u8","c_root_id_B":"fbutfti","created_at_utc_A":1577121362,"created_at_utc_B":1577120084,"score_A":54,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"In regards to your 12 year old peeing on things left on the floor, I\u2019d recommend having your vet see him for this.  You want to make sure there isn\u2019t any underlying cause for this new behavior.    In regards to the other behavior- you have two cats in two separate households manifesting a new behavior, that they don\u2019t do to anyone else.  You are the common denominator.  Any new clothes, or creams, or perfumes, etc, that you may be using? Or anything else different?","human_ref_B":"Unless they show signs of having trouble urinating this isn't an emergency, but it does appear to be somewhat more frequent than you would expect. I would stop him from kneading you and see where that goes; if the behavior continues, you should get them seen by a vet and specifically have the penis examined.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1278.0,"score_ratio":2.347826087}
{"post_id":"nsx77w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/lq5wJ7H","c_root_id_A":"h0pqwz5","c_root_id_B":"h0przry","created_at_utc_A":1622919484,"created_at_utc_B":1622920036,"score_A":39,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"So remember that babies can take a turn for the worst very quickly. If he's stray, you don't know anything about his health. Have they been to the vet yet for a check up? The biggest concern for this little guy is dehydration and malnutrition. He's going to need a vet asap.   Good luck with your new babies!","human_ref_B":"Hello!  Vet here.  Do you have access to commercial kitten food?  Feeding only meat and\/or products, especially at such a young age, can cause severe nutritional deficiencies.  I'm not saying this is the case right now, but it could cause some problems in the future, while commercial foods are formulated with balancing nutrients and providing a complete diet in mind.  I do recommend that you try to get the little guy and his siblings to a vet.  There are other aspects of preventative care that could really help them out with their health, and can help to set them up for success in the future.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":552.0,"score_ratio":1.5384615385}
{"post_id":"hrhlhb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Fat feral cat won't leave room Please give advice urgent!!! I have this one cat that came to us pregnant About six years ago we took care of her after that but she was pretty feral The only way to get her close to us was to feed her. soon after she had her kittens we moved so we took her with us keep in mind she was still feral kind of but let us touch her a little bit. after we moved she would only stay in this one room and would constantly eat so she got really really fat and till this day she still doesn't really leave the room much. about five years later she\u2019s just gotten increasingly overweight and is nice to certain people but won\u2019t come out of the room the only way to get her out is with a trail of treats but she will run back in soon after. I'm concerned for her health and I need her to lose weight I already tried switching her food from meow mix to IAMs weight loss food for a year and still hasn't done anything what do I do!!! Also we pick up the food at night time!! Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fy50fjj","c_root_id_B":"fy4xihx","created_at_utc_A":1594817226,"created_at_utc_B":1594815150,"score_A":20,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"She's a cat, she will eat whatever you make available to her. She's overweight because she's being fed too much food. As others have said, there are guidelines on the bag that say how much food she should get for weightloss, maintenance, and to gain. Your vet can tell you what her ideal weight should be, feed her for that. Most pet foods overestimate calorie requirements so as she gets closer to ideal don't be surprised if she stops losing. You can cut back a small amount more until she's ideal. Reduce her food slowly- you don't want to suddenly cut out a lot of calories. She'll be grumpier and it's not healthy. Weightloss in cats should be a slow, steady process. It may take months to a year or more depending on how overweight she is. As far as her behavior goes and not leaving the room, schedule a behavior consult with a veterinarian. They'll be able to advise you on how much weight she needs to lose as well.","human_ref_B":"Feed her for what she should way not what she does weigh, weigh the portions out, thats her food allowance. Think calories in (food + treats) vs out (exercise), she'll only loose weight with a diet food if you're doing it properly :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2076.0,"score_ratio":6.6666666667}
{"post_id":"hrhlhb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Fat feral cat won't leave room Please give advice urgent!!! I have this one cat that came to us pregnant About six years ago we took care of her after that but she was pretty feral The only way to get her close to us was to feed her. soon after she had her kittens we moved so we took her with us keep in mind she was still feral kind of but let us touch her a little bit. after we moved she would only stay in this one room and would constantly eat so she got really really fat and till this day she still doesn't really leave the room much. about five years later she\u2019s just gotten increasingly overweight and is nice to certain people but won\u2019t come out of the room the only way to get her out is with a trail of treats but she will run back in soon after. I'm concerned for her health and I need her to lose weight I already tried switching her food from meow mix to IAMs weight loss food for a year and still hasn't done anything what do I do!!! Also we pick up the food at night time!! Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fy51ae5","c_root_id_B":"fy5j7j3","created_at_utc_A":1594817788,"created_at_utc_B":1594827555,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Take her to a vet for an in depth health check. Teeth etc.","human_ref_B":"Vet tech here, to continue off some of the other great points I would definitely recommend taking her to the vet to get her weight, get a guess on what her ideal weight should be, and how much of her diet she should be getting a day.  I know some cats are difficult to get to the vet but this would be best to let you know exactly how much she should be receiving.    Some other techniques you can try are putting her dry kibble into puzzle feeders or better yet, food balls.  This way she will have to bat around the toy to release her meal and also get exercise in the process.  More active\/play time will burn calories as well.  Treats should also be limited as well.  A general rule of thumb is less than 10% of the caloric intake should be from treats and probably even less when weight loss is the goal.   I would also ask your veterinarian about different treat alternatives.  There are a bunch of \"human food\" cat safe alternatives that would be fewer calories than store-bought cat treats.  Lastly, with more than one individual in a household either a feeding \"calendar\" or designated person to feed her would help to reduce the risk of her getting double and triple meals.  A feeding \"calendar\" allows household members to mark off if she has been fed without there being a question.   Make sure the whole house is on board with the weight loss plan and that no one is giving her other table scraps, extra treats, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9767.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"hrhlhb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Fat feral cat won't leave room Please give advice urgent!!! I have this one cat that came to us pregnant About six years ago we took care of her after that but she was pretty feral The only way to get her close to us was to feed her. soon after she had her kittens we moved so we took her with us keep in mind she was still feral kind of but let us touch her a little bit. after we moved she would only stay in this one room and would constantly eat so she got really really fat and till this day she still doesn't really leave the room much. about five years later she\u2019s just gotten increasingly overweight and is nice to certain people but won\u2019t come out of the room the only way to get her out is with a trail of treats but she will run back in soon after. I'm concerned for her health and I need her to lose weight I already tried switching her food from meow mix to IAMs weight loss food for a year and still hasn't done anything what do I do!!! Also we pick up the food at night time!! Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fy5j7j3","c_root_id_B":"fy4xihx","created_at_utc_A":1594827555,"created_at_utc_B":1594815150,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Vet tech here, to continue off some of the other great points I would definitely recommend taking her to the vet to get her weight, get a guess on what her ideal weight should be, and how much of her diet she should be getting a day.  I know some cats are difficult to get to the vet but this would be best to let you know exactly how much she should be receiving.    Some other techniques you can try are putting her dry kibble into puzzle feeders or better yet, food balls.  This way she will have to bat around the toy to release her meal and also get exercise in the process.  More active\/play time will burn calories as well.  Treats should also be limited as well.  A general rule of thumb is less than 10% of the caloric intake should be from treats and probably even less when weight loss is the goal.   I would also ask your veterinarian about different treat alternatives.  There are a bunch of \"human food\" cat safe alternatives that would be fewer calories than store-bought cat treats.  Lastly, with more than one individual in a household either a feeding \"calendar\" or designated person to feed her would help to reduce the risk of her getting double and triple meals.  A feeding \"calendar\" allows household members to mark off if she has been fed without there being a question.   Make sure the whole house is on board with the weight loss plan and that no one is giving her other table scraps, extra treats, etc.","human_ref_B":"Feed her for what she should way not what she does weigh, weigh the portions out, thats her food allowance. Think calories in (food + treats) vs out (exercise), she'll only loose weight with a diet food if you're doing it properly :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12405.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"hrhlhb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Fat feral cat won't leave room Please give advice urgent!!! I have this one cat that came to us pregnant About six years ago we took care of her after that but she was pretty feral The only way to get her close to us was to feed her. soon after she had her kittens we moved so we took her with us keep in mind she was still feral kind of but let us touch her a little bit. after we moved she would only stay in this one room and would constantly eat so she got really really fat and till this day she still doesn't really leave the room much. about five years later she\u2019s just gotten increasingly overweight and is nice to certain people but won\u2019t come out of the room the only way to get her out is with a trail of treats but she will run back in soon after. I'm concerned for her health and I need her to lose weight I already tried switching her food from meow mix to IAMs weight loss food for a year and still hasn't done anything what do I do!!! Also we pick up the food at night time!! Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fy54url","c_root_id_B":"fy5j7j3","created_at_utc_A":1594819995,"created_at_utc_B":1594827555,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Feed her less and put the food in a public place to encourage her from staying in the room.   Do you play with her with toys wands etc?   If not do so outside of the room.  Make outside of the room fun if at all possible with play","human_ref_B":"Vet tech here, to continue off some of the other great points I would definitely recommend taking her to the vet to get her weight, get a guess on what her ideal weight should be, and how much of her diet she should be getting a day.  I know some cats are difficult to get to the vet but this would be best to let you know exactly how much she should be receiving.    Some other techniques you can try are putting her dry kibble into puzzle feeders or better yet, food balls.  This way she will have to bat around the toy to release her meal and also get exercise in the process.  More active\/play time will burn calories as well.  Treats should also be limited as well.  A general rule of thumb is less than 10% of the caloric intake should be from treats and probably even less when weight loss is the goal.   I would also ask your veterinarian about different treat alternatives.  There are a bunch of \"human food\" cat safe alternatives that would be fewer calories than store-bought cat treats.  Lastly, with more than one individual in a household either a feeding \"calendar\" or designated person to feed her would help to reduce the risk of her getting double and triple meals.  A feeding \"calendar\" allows household members to mark off if she has been fed without there being a question.   Make sure the whole house is on board with the weight loss plan and that no one is giving her other table scraps, extra treats, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7560.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"hrhlhb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Fat feral cat won't leave room Please give advice urgent!!! I have this one cat that came to us pregnant About six years ago we took care of her after that but she was pretty feral The only way to get her close to us was to feed her. soon after she had her kittens we moved so we took her with us keep in mind she was still feral kind of but let us touch her a little bit. after we moved she would only stay in this one room and would constantly eat so she got really really fat and till this day she still doesn't really leave the room much. about five years later she\u2019s just gotten increasingly overweight and is nice to certain people but won\u2019t come out of the room the only way to get her out is with a trail of treats but she will run back in soon after. I'm concerned for her health and I need her to lose weight I already tried switching her food from meow mix to IAMs weight loss food for a year and still hasn't done anything what do I do!!! Also we pick up the food at night time!! Thank you!!","c_root_id_A":"fy51ae5","c_root_id_B":"fy4xihx","created_at_utc_A":1594817788,"created_at_utc_B":1594815150,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Take her to a vet for an in depth health check. Teeth etc.","human_ref_B":"Feed her for what she should way not what she does weigh, weigh the portions out, thats her food allowance. Think calories in (food + treats) vs out (exercise), she'll only loose weight with a diet food if you're doing it properly :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2638.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gi2mjs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this normal behavior from the vet clinic? We took our cat in Saturday night because she wasn't eating or drinking. Turns out she had a fever. They told us she'd be in the hospital for two days. I've called about 8 times. Each time they tell me to call back later. On Sunday morning I called and they didn't give much detail. They just said she was laying there and that she peed but they didn't get any to run a test. I paid for x rays and blood work and they haven't said anything about that.    It's been two nights already and I know nothing about her. I am considering just going and getting her because I haven't gotten any sort of update on her. I really don't wanna get charged for another night if she's ready to go.","c_root_id_A":"fqced57","c_root_id_B":"fqcr7ku","created_at_utc_A":1589256151,"created_at_utc_B":1589266290,"score_A":29,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"When you call i would ask to speak with the vet in charge of your cat. Its not super uncommon for staff to be busy and unable to answer questions about diagnosis, this is the vets responsibility. For lab results if they sent them out of the hospital to a lab it can take up to 1-3 days for results. If you are still getting the go around speak with a manager. They really should be able to give you an update on how your cat is doing. Typically we will give status updates on hospitalized patients in the evening or late morning after the dvm has had an opportunity to check patient that morning and that afternoon. Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"Call and speak to the vet. Ask what has been done, and of that, what is supportive and what is diagnostic.  Ask about the diagnostic results and when\/if repeats of tests are indicated based on the results.  Is anything further indicated (ie- ultrasound, internal medicine consult?) If there isn\u2019t a definitive diagnosis yet, ask what the working diagnosis is.  Ask how she has responded to the supportive care and what her prognosis looks like now.  Also, she\u2019s been in hospital for 2 days. Is someone there overnight? Was this aspect discussed with you?  If she\u2019s not doing better or you\u2019re not satisfied with the answers provided it may be good to seek a second opinion at a reputable 24 hr facility.    Lastly, make sure your vet has the correct phone number on file. It sounds to me like you spoke with a staff member who was non-medical (ie- perhaps a receptionist or kennel attendant) or didn\u2019t have specific knowledge of her case.  Speak with the vet to get an update, find out what their plan is, and go from there. Good luck!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10139.0,"score_ratio":3.4137931034}
{"post_id":"gi2mjs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is this normal behavior from the vet clinic? We took our cat in Saturday night because she wasn't eating or drinking. Turns out she had a fever. They told us she'd be in the hospital for two days. I've called about 8 times. Each time they tell me to call back later. On Sunday morning I called and they didn't give much detail. They just said she was laying there and that she peed but they didn't get any to run a test. I paid for x rays and blood work and they haven't said anything about that.    It's been two nights already and I know nothing about her. I am considering just going and getting her because I haven't gotten any sort of update on her. I really don't wanna get charged for another night if she's ready to go.","c_root_id_A":"fqced57","c_root_id_B":"fqd62wt","created_at_utc_A":1589256151,"created_at_utc_B":1589281009,"score_A":29,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"When you call i would ask to speak with the vet in charge of your cat. Its not super uncommon for staff to be busy and unable to answer questions about diagnosis, this is the vets responsibility. For lab results if they sent them out of the hospital to a lab it can take up to 1-3 days for results. If you are still getting the go around speak with a manager. They really should be able to give you an update on how your cat is doing. Typically we will give status updates on hospitalized patients in the evening or late morning after the dvm has had an opportunity to check patient that morning and that afternoon. Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"> **Is this normal behavior from the vet clinic?**    >   > I've called about 8 times. Each time they tell me to call back later.   No, that's not normal. But don't forget we're not living in normal times. A few vets have closed near me, so my clinics are picking up a ***TON*** of extra patients. On a good day during the best of times, we're overworked and understaffed. Now it's a thousand times worse.   That said, you obviously deserve an answer about your cat. If I were in your shoes I would listen to what the others here have said: ask to speak directly to the vet in charge of the case, or the hospital manager if the vet isn't available.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24858.0,"score_ratio":2.3448275862}
{"post_id":"dba9rc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My dog did something super weird last night. My chocolate lab, around 3 years old, female, around 80ish pounds woke my wife up last night by flopping around on the bed like she was in distress. I woke up too and ran round the bed to her, she was acting very odd like she couldn't get up. So I helped her off the bed and her back legs (I couldn't tell if it was both back legs or one) just buckled under her and she fell. So I layed with her for a few mins, like less then 5. And eventually she got up and was acting 100% normal.  She wasn't shaking, she wasn't particularly cold or hot, she was calm and wagging her tail the whole time, she was even breathing very normally.  So, any opinion on what it was would be greatly appreciated.  The only thing I could think is that she ether had a seizure (witch she's never had before) or, and more likely, she was sleeping in a weird position and her back leg, or legs fell asleep.  It was really confusing. And when I went to work this morning she was 100% fine. Begging me for breakfast as normal.  Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"f20sja3","c_root_id_B":"f206gaq","created_at_utc_A":1569863526,"created_at_utc_B":1569855871,"score_A":81,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"If this happens again, take a video. It's very helpful for your vet to help diagnose.","human_ref_B":"Doesn't sound like an emergency at this point, but definitely keep an eye on her, and give your vet a call to discuss whether this warrants getting her seen.  On that note, looking for possible causes online isn't going to help anyone, least of all your dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7655.0,"score_ratio":1.6875}
{"post_id":"utghid","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat can't pee, should I take him to another vet? My cat just sits on his litterbox and doesn't pee since yesterday. I took him to the vet three hours ago, she said his bladder was very full, but that he didn't have a fever. She injected him antibiotics and antiinflammatory meds and told me to take him tomorrow again.  Since then my cat has tried to pee about 10 times and he looks miserable.  He hasn't peed yet.  How worried should I be? Should I just take him to another vet? He fucking hates the car too and gets suuuuuuper stressed, otherwise I would've gone already.","c_root_id_A":"i99llfb","c_root_id_B":"i9a2yin","created_at_utc_A":1653004834,"created_at_utc_B":1653013452,"score_A":74,"score_B":145,"human_ref_A":"You should absolutely take him to an emergency vet. If he doesn\u2019t urinate, his bladder could rupture. It is likely they will need to pass a urinary catheter and may recommend an overnight stay for observation","human_ref_B":"Definitely needs to go to the ER. The \"tubing\" where a male cat urinates through is very small and can easily be blocked by a bladder stone. This is a medical emergency.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8618.0,"score_ratio":1.9594594595}
{"post_id":"m1b646","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat is limping but did not limp for the vet. I adopted a cat from the shelter and did not see a limp at the time. Two weeks later we noticed a small limp. Took her to the vet for that issue but she did not limp for the vet so they ignored it  She was limping on and off for short periods of time.  It\u2019s been a year and now her limp is bad after playing really rough with the other cat...I narrowed it down to her paw since she only pulls away when I mess with that part of them limb. She does not pull away when I mess with her other paw.    Question: what do vets do when you can\u2019t see anything wrong visually wrong with their paw ? (Her nails look fine as well)She is two years of old.","c_root_id_A":"gqcz8ld","c_root_id_B":"gqczfnc","created_at_utc_A":1615316364,"created_at_utc_B":1615316452,"score_A":25,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Try taking a video for them. When animals are in stressful situations (like going to the vet) they sometimes can hide injury.","human_ref_B":"It's not uncommon for adrenaline to kick in at the vet, and they stop limping ect. Time to ask for radiographs like others have said.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":88.0,"score_ratio":1.64}
{"post_id":"f2ss8q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Took my precious baby to the vet. They think she has cancer and want to remove her mammary chain As the title states, I took my baby Zelda (cat) to the vet yesterday when I noticed a lump that she had was starting to get infected. She had an appointment set up for Saturday but since it was starting to look worse I took her in to an emergency place. They are sending a sample to check but the vet is concerned because it had a weird border and it was hairless.   Anyways, Zelda is only 4 (approximated upon adoption two years ago) she's a long haired tortoise shell cat. She weighs 4kg\/9.34 lb and she was spayed at two years. The lump grew QUICKLY. If it is cancer and I do remove her mammary tract will she have a good quality of life? She's eating normally, acting normally, she's still full of personality. I guess what I need advice on is, if she has the surgery will she live the rest of her life in pain? Or will it greatly extend her life?","c_root_id_A":"fheg6dt","c_root_id_B":"fhekmgf","created_at_utc_A":1581521702,"created_at_utc_B":1581524391,"score_A":12,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"What did your vet say?","human_ref_B":"If she does have mammary cancer and you have it removed it is unlikely that she will be in lifelong pain from that. Some cancers can metastasize or spread, so your vet may recommend follow up care but typically post op prognosis is good.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2689.0,"score_ratio":5.4166666667}
{"post_id":"f2ss8q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Took my precious baby to the vet. They think she has cancer and want to remove her mammary chain As the title states, I took my baby Zelda (cat) to the vet yesterday when I noticed a lump that she had was starting to get infected. She had an appointment set up for Saturday but since it was starting to look worse I took her in to an emergency place. They are sending a sample to check but the vet is concerned because it had a weird border and it was hairless.   Anyways, Zelda is only 4 (approximated upon adoption two years ago) she's a long haired tortoise shell cat. She weighs 4kg\/9.34 lb and she was spayed at two years. The lump grew QUICKLY. If it is cancer and I do remove her mammary tract will she have a good quality of life? She's eating normally, acting normally, she's still full of personality. I guess what I need advice on is, if she has the surgery will she live the rest of her life in pain? Or will it greatly extend her life?","c_root_id_A":"fheg6dt","c_root_id_B":"fhesc16","created_at_utc_A":1581521702,"created_at_utc_B":1581528912,"score_A":12,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"What did your vet say?","human_ref_B":"Any kind of mammary tumour is always better to remove early, they do grow quickly and become quite extensive in the mammary tissue. The recovery from surgery can be painful but she will have pain medication to go home with. Prognosis depends on type of tumour and the margins that your vet is able to get through surgery (ie. did the entire tumour get removed or are there still bad cells left behind) but generally the surgery shouldn\u2019t cause long term pain. Life span is something to ask your vet about when the results come back from the sample testing, as this can vary greatly depending on the type of tumour and it\u2019s willingness to spread to other locations in the body. If it is only confined to the mammary chain and removed entirely, then usually prognosis is good.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7210.0,"score_ratio":2.4166666667}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fiuloq1","c_root_id_B":"fiupiqu","created_at_utc_A":1582743775,"created_at_utc_B":1582745848,"score_A":69,"score_B":201,"human_ref_A":"No, that is not enough... here\u2019s a website with some basic info.   https:\/\/kittenrescue.org\/2017\/03\/raising-orphaned-kittens\/  Are you keeping it warm enough? Is the nipple opening big enough? Are you holding the kitten in the right position during feeds? Thanks for doing this and trying. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"Some kittens won't drink if their bladders are full. Wipe her lower tummy and butt rhythmically with a warm, slightly damp, soft cloth to see if you can get her to go.  You may also want to try a dropper or syringe instead of the bottle incase she is just too weak to suckle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2073.0,"score_ratio":2.9130434783}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fiup8kh","c_root_id_B":"fiupiqu","created_at_utc_A":1582745697,"created_at_utc_B":1582745848,"score_A":13,"score_B":201,"human_ref_A":"Do you have a scale? Keep close eye on her weight","human_ref_B":"Some kittens won't drink if their bladders are full. Wipe her lower tummy and butt rhythmically with a warm, slightly damp, soft cloth to see if you can get her to go.  You may also want to try a dropper or syringe instead of the bottle incase she is just too weak to suckle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":151.0,"score_ratio":15.4615384615}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fiuwqjb","c_root_id_B":"fiup8kh","created_at_utc_A":1582749665,"created_at_utc_B":1582745697,"score_A":37,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Keeping warm,  eye dropper feeding and stimulating belly and bum was great advise.","human_ref_B":"Do you have a scale? Keep close eye on her weight","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3968.0,"score_ratio":2.8461538462}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fiusv2z","c_root_id_B":"fiuwqjb","created_at_utc_A":1582747640,"created_at_utc_B":1582749665,"score_A":10,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Here is a formula quantity vs weight chart for bottle feeding kittens:   https:\/\/www.maddiesfund.org\/assets\/documents\/Institute\/Kitten%20Bottle%20Feeding%20and%20Stomach%20Capacity%20Chart.pdf     Here is a detailed older AskVet post that has a lot of information on kittens:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/bmnqoh\/meta\\_its\\_kitten\\_season\\_you\\_found\\_a\\_litter\\_of\/","human_ref_B":"Keeping warm,  eye dropper feeding and stimulating belly and bum was great advise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2025.0,"score_ratio":3.7}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fivbooo","c_root_id_B":"fiup8kh","created_at_utc_A":1582757485,"created_at_utc_B":1582745697,"score_A":35,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"If the eyes are open it's likely to be closer to 2 weeks old than 1. You need to make sure it's a suitable temperature before you feed it. Set it up with a nice coz I box, some blankets and a covered hot water bottle at one end that you keep topped up and warm. Ensure it's only at one end so the kitten can move away if it gets too hot.  It also won't feed if it needs toileting so make sure you do this too. Use damp cotton wool and gently rub the genital area. Urine should pass almost immediately and should be pale yellow or clear if properly hydrated. Faeces take a little longer, I found that rubbing circles around the anus was most effective. Don't worry if faeces aren't produced every time as formula sometimes causes constipation but you should certainly see faeces at least once every 24hr, if its 48hrs or more contact a vet. Similarly if urine stops being produced contact a vet immediately.  Feeding, ensure fresh formula is made up ideally with each feed but at least every 24hrs and keep it in the fridge between feeds. Use a warm water bath to bring it to a warm temperature between feeds. The kitten should be taking around 3-5ml every 2-3 hours at this age. At 4 weeks feeds can be extended to every 3-4 hours, introduce solids at 5 weeks and weaning should take place between 6-8 weeks, although slow learners may take a little longer and that's ok.  When the kitten starts urinating and defecating independently, or is approximately the right age to do so (4-5 weeks) start placing them in the litter tray to toilet them and leave the soiled litter in the tray so they learn what it's for. Just clean the tray daily.  You should also chat to a vet about workers from 3 weeks old.   Finally, because we don't know the origins of the little one don't feel too bad if it doesn't make it. The mum may have abandoned it because she knew something was wrong. If it stops feeding\/urinating\/defecating, becomes lethargic and stops vocalising, and especially if it stops suckling then call a vet immediately as the little ones can go downhill very fast.  Behaviourally hand reared cats are...challenging, so be prepared for that longer term as well. If you have Any questions I'm more than happy to try and help answer them, I'm not an expert but neonatal care is a particular interest that I've focused on whilst training to be a vet nurse.","human_ref_B":"Do you have a scale? Keep close eye on her weight","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11788.0,"score_ratio":2.6923076923}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fivbooo","c_root_id_B":"fiv49wd","created_at_utc_A":1582757485,"created_at_utc_B":1582753547,"score_A":35,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"If the eyes are open it's likely to be closer to 2 weeks old than 1. You need to make sure it's a suitable temperature before you feed it. Set it up with a nice coz I box, some blankets and a covered hot water bottle at one end that you keep topped up and warm. Ensure it's only at one end so the kitten can move away if it gets too hot.  It also won't feed if it needs toileting so make sure you do this too. Use damp cotton wool and gently rub the genital area. Urine should pass almost immediately and should be pale yellow or clear if properly hydrated. Faeces take a little longer, I found that rubbing circles around the anus was most effective. Don't worry if faeces aren't produced every time as formula sometimes causes constipation but you should certainly see faeces at least once every 24hr, if its 48hrs or more contact a vet. Similarly if urine stops being produced contact a vet immediately.  Feeding, ensure fresh formula is made up ideally with each feed but at least every 24hrs and keep it in the fridge between feeds. Use a warm water bath to bring it to a warm temperature between feeds. The kitten should be taking around 3-5ml every 2-3 hours at this age. At 4 weeks feeds can be extended to every 3-4 hours, introduce solids at 5 weeks and weaning should take place between 6-8 weeks, although slow learners may take a little longer and that's ok.  When the kitten starts urinating and defecating independently, or is approximately the right age to do so (4-5 weeks) start placing them in the litter tray to toilet them and leave the soiled litter in the tray so they learn what it's for. Just clean the tray daily.  You should also chat to a vet about workers from 3 weeks old.   Finally, because we don't know the origins of the little one don't feel too bad if it doesn't make it. The mum may have abandoned it because she knew something was wrong. If it stops feeding\/urinating\/defecating, becomes lethargic and stops vocalising, and especially if it stops suckling then call a vet immediately as the little ones can go downhill very fast.  Behaviourally hand reared cats are...challenging, so be prepared for that longer term as well. If you have Any questions I'm more than happy to try and help answer them, I'm not an expert but neonatal care is a particular interest that I've focused on whilst training to be a vet nurse.","human_ref_B":"Make sure that you poked an appropriate sized hole in the nipple of the bottle if it didn't come with a hole already.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3938.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"f9xwbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a newborn abandoned kitten to drink about 2 milliliters of milk a day? &#x200B;  Hello,  We have found an abandoned kitten (girl) in the yard who seems to be about one week (her eyes are not closed). She was outside crying for about an entire day and night and her mother didn't come for her. At first my sister brought her baby milk powder that is lactose free along with feeding bottle. She did drink and then we managed to find ' Royal Canin Babycat Milk' - The only thing we could find - my sisters started feeding her using the included bottle in the product. They would feed her in about 2 hours each time. We did put her where we found her at first after we fed her in the yard on the place she was found in but no one came for her so for now she is in our house.  The problem is that she hardly drink, she seems to be drinking but for each time it is way less than one milliliter, for about the entire day she drank around 2 milliliters and  I've read that they are supposed to drink at least 2 milliliters each time, we don't know if it is okay to force her to drink or is it okay  for her to drink a little bit each time like that. she also keeps on crying most of the time - if she is asleep she would cry in a low voice - and i don't know if that's normal or not.  Unfortunately we don't have any nearby clinic in our city nor do we know any cat mother who would feed her so our only option to take care of her in the house  Any other tips on how to take care of her would be much appreciated.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fivbooo","c_root_id_B":"fiusv2z","created_at_utc_A":1582757485,"created_at_utc_B":1582747640,"score_A":35,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"If the eyes are open it's likely to be closer to 2 weeks old than 1. You need to make sure it's a suitable temperature before you feed it. Set it up with a nice coz I box, some blankets and a covered hot water bottle at one end that you keep topped up and warm. Ensure it's only at one end so the kitten can move away if it gets too hot.  It also won't feed if it needs toileting so make sure you do this too. Use damp cotton wool and gently rub the genital area. Urine should pass almost immediately and should be pale yellow or clear if properly hydrated. Faeces take a little longer, I found that rubbing circles around the anus was most effective. Don't worry if faeces aren't produced every time as formula sometimes causes constipation but you should certainly see faeces at least once every 24hr, if its 48hrs or more contact a vet. Similarly if urine stops being produced contact a vet immediately.  Feeding, ensure fresh formula is made up ideally with each feed but at least every 24hrs and keep it in the fridge between feeds. Use a warm water bath to bring it to a warm temperature between feeds. The kitten should be taking around 3-5ml every 2-3 hours at this age. At 4 weeks feeds can be extended to every 3-4 hours, introduce solids at 5 weeks and weaning should take place between 6-8 weeks, although slow learners may take a little longer and that's ok.  When the kitten starts urinating and defecating independently, or is approximately the right age to do so (4-5 weeks) start placing them in the litter tray to toilet them and leave the soiled litter in the tray so they learn what it's for. Just clean the tray daily.  You should also chat to a vet about workers from 3 weeks old.   Finally, because we don't know the origins of the little one don't feel too bad if it doesn't make it. The mum may have abandoned it because she knew something was wrong. If it stops feeding\/urinating\/defecating, becomes lethargic and stops vocalising, and especially if it stops suckling then call a vet immediately as the little ones can go downhill very fast.  Behaviourally hand reared cats are...challenging, so be prepared for that longer term as well. If you have Any questions I'm more than happy to try and help answer them, I'm not an expert but neonatal care is a particular interest that I've focused on whilst training to be a vet nurse.","human_ref_B":"Here is a formula quantity vs weight chart for bottle feeding kittens:   https:\/\/www.maddiesfund.org\/assets\/documents\/Institute\/Kitten%20Bottle%20Feeding%20and%20Stomach%20Capacity%20Chart.pdf     Here is a detailed older AskVet post that has a lot of information on kittens:   https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/bmnqoh\/meta\\_its\\_kitten\\_season\\_you\\_found\\_a\\_litter\\_of\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9845.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efkd8n0","c_root_id_B":"efklbwa","created_at_utc_A":1549073433,"created_at_utc_B":1549080733,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry to hear this. :( Poor kitten. I was hoping it wasn't FIP.  Have you considered palliative care\/hospice? It's a good option if you're not quite ready to say goodbye.","human_ref_B":"You did right. If you want to thank us, food is good but donating to whatever \"pets-in-need\" program your local vet has is better. Send a thank you card regardless as many of us thrive on those. Address it to the doctors and staff that helped your pet and say specifically what you appreciate.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7300.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efke1ew","c_root_id_B":"efklbwa","created_at_utc_A":1549074144,"created_at_utc_B":1549080733,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Thanks for the update and I\u2019m so sorry he got such a terrible condition.","human_ref_B":"You did right. If you want to thank us, food is good but donating to whatever \"pets-in-need\" program your local vet has is better. Send a thank you card regardless as many of us thrive on those. Address it to the doctors and staff that helped your pet and say specifically what you appreciate.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6589.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efkd8n0","c_root_id_B":"efkuvhf","created_at_utc_A":1549073433,"created_at_utc_B":1549091879,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry to hear this. :( Poor kitten. I was hoping it wasn't FIP.  Have you considered palliative care\/hospice? It's a good option if you're not quite ready to say goodbye.","human_ref_B":"I learned the really hard lesson that sometimes you are sent an little one just to give them your all because they have a short time with us. It is shitty and not fair but we make it through because they need us. I am so sorry. I really hoped this was not the case. Know that you did what you could but it was an impossible battle to win.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18446.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efkuvhf","c_root_id_B":"efke1ew","created_at_utc_A":1549091879,"created_at_utc_B":1549074144,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I learned the really hard lesson that sometimes you are sent an little one just to give them your all because they have a short time with us. It is shitty and not fair but we make it through because they need us. I am so sorry. I really hoped this was not the case. Know that you did what you could but it was an impossible battle to win.","human_ref_B":"Thanks for the update and I\u2019m so sorry he got such a terrible condition.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17735.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efkuvhf","c_root_id_B":"efknv9y","created_at_utc_A":1549091879,"created_at_utc_B":1549083307,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I learned the really hard lesson that sometimes you are sent an little one just to give them your all because they have a short time with us. It is shitty and not fair but we make it through because they need us. I am so sorry. I really hoped this was not the case. Know that you did what you could but it was an impossible battle to win.","human_ref_B":"\u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8572.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"am8gxd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Thank You Hey guys, I'm not sure how on topic this is, but I just wanted to give a big thank you to those who helped give me insight on my sick kitty's journey. Sadly, specialists at Mississippi State said they are 95% sure that this is FIP, even when our other vet said that since he had been eating and showing no other symptoms but Uveitis, up until a few days ago, that he had basically ruled out FIP. On Wednesday  his two left legs began to appear partially paralyzed, I knew from my research that both ocular and neurological issues are present in the dry form of FIP (we had ruled out the effusive type from ultrasounds). This is stunning as we thought he had recovered as he regained his appetite and had been doing great for two and a half weeks, so we thought we were in the clear, as did our vets in two different states. Right now, we realize his quality of life is not what he wants since he is struggling to get around and doesn't have his full vision even if he is eating, so he will be leaving us tomorrow morning. Again, thank you to those who helped me understand his issues and even gave me a better perspective on quality of life and how this really isn't contagious to our other cats.  Thank you from a stunned cat lover WHO NEVER EVEN KNEW THIS HORRID THING EXISTED <3","c_root_id_A":"efkuvhf","c_root_id_B":"efkrcyg","created_at_utc_A":1549091879,"created_at_utc_B":1549087147,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I learned the really hard lesson that sometimes you are sent an little one just to give them your all because they have a short time with us. It is shitty and not fair but we make it through because they need us. I am so sorry. I really hoped this was not the case. Know that you did what you could but it was an impossible battle to win.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry. We learned about FIP the hard way too.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4732.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14no34","c_root_id_B":"h14ko1u","created_at_utc_A":1623225846,"created_at_utc_B":1623223194,"score_A":113,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":">Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, **or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?**  In practice there is a lot of oversight and safety measures in place, particularly within corporate practice, and nationally vets, nurses and practices are regulated by an independent body (who some would say is more stringent and disciplinarian than the government authorities).  There are bad apples in every industry, and sometimes vets and nurses will make mistakes, we are all human, but true criminal activity or breaches of the RCVS Professional Code of Conduct are thankfully rare.  >She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  Maybe in the people they worked with but not in the industry as a whole.  I would be concerned why this person didn't report these incidents, especially if they were so numerous, to their employer and the relevant authorities.   They could actually get themselves in a hell of a lot of trouble for not reporting animal rights abuses and\/or criminal activity that they have witnessed;)  >She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table),  This is criminal behaviour and any witnesses would have been obligated to \"whistle blow\" and report this to their employer and the necessary authorities immediately - did they?  I have seen people sacked and\/or receive major sanctions from the RCVS for far less (ie; a highly qualified and \"experienced\" nurse excessively restraining an anxious dog that snapped at them to a table and shouting \"no\" in it's face - sacked - bad practice causing unnecessary distress).  This is not \"normal\" or by any stretch of the imagination \"common\" in veterinary practice.  >a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird,   This depends a lot on the context here (ie; wellness of the patient, conversation had with the client, what procedure was done, whether it was indicated and performed correctly, etc).  The vet may have been negligent, in which case they should have reported this as a \"significant event\" to their line manager and their employer (did they?), or it could be that they were mistaken and the vet involved did nothing wrong.  >and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) **because she was too small** and he could not be bothered to find a vein.   An intraperitoneal or intravisceral injection to facilitate euthanasia via an overdose of anaesthetic is humane and perfectly permissible when you can't reliably get venous access.  This is a fairly common practice, particularly with very small, young and\/or collapsed patients (eg; tiny puppies\/kittens, wildlife).  It may not *look* nice and it may take longer for the drug to be absorbed, but it is humane. The degree of pain or discomfort is on par with giving an IV injection or placing a cannula (like during a normal euthanasia), and in some instances it is *more* humane (eg; compared to a vet or nurse making multiple unsuccessful attempts to get an IV in a small, collapsed patient).","human_ref_B":"All of those things sound horrible!  I think in any job, there will be bad apples, unfortunately. I will tell you that everyone in the profession is here because we love animals and they are our priority. At the very least, a vet wants to protect their veterinary license by following laws and regulations.   You can always ask for a hospital tour or for things to be done in the treatment room. We always seem to miss the vein when we are being watched though \ud83d\ude02","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2652.0,"score_ratio":7.0625}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14no34","c_root_id_B":"h14c67j","created_at_utc_A":1623225846,"created_at_utc_B":1623216580,"score_A":113,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":">Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, **or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?**  In practice there is a lot of oversight and safety measures in place, particularly within corporate practice, and nationally vets, nurses and practices are regulated by an independent body (who some would say is more stringent and disciplinarian than the government authorities).  There are bad apples in every industry, and sometimes vets and nurses will make mistakes, we are all human, but true criminal activity or breaches of the RCVS Professional Code of Conduct are thankfully rare.  >She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  Maybe in the people they worked with but not in the industry as a whole.  I would be concerned why this person didn't report these incidents, especially if they were so numerous, to their employer and the relevant authorities.   They could actually get themselves in a hell of a lot of trouble for not reporting animal rights abuses and\/or criminal activity that they have witnessed;)  >She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table),  This is criminal behaviour and any witnesses would have been obligated to \"whistle blow\" and report this to their employer and the necessary authorities immediately - did they?  I have seen people sacked and\/or receive major sanctions from the RCVS for far less (ie; a highly qualified and \"experienced\" nurse excessively restraining an anxious dog that snapped at them to a table and shouting \"no\" in it's face - sacked - bad practice causing unnecessary distress).  This is not \"normal\" or by any stretch of the imagination \"common\" in veterinary practice.  >a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird,   This depends a lot on the context here (ie; wellness of the patient, conversation had with the client, what procedure was done, whether it was indicated and performed correctly, etc).  The vet may have been negligent, in which case they should have reported this as a \"significant event\" to their line manager and their employer (did they?), or it could be that they were mistaken and the vet involved did nothing wrong.  >and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) **because she was too small** and he could not be bothered to find a vein.   An intraperitoneal or intravisceral injection to facilitate euthanasia via an overdose of anaesthetic is humane and perfectly permissible when you can't reliably get venous access.  This is a fairly common practice, particularly with very small, young and\/or collapsed patients (eg; tiny puppies\/kittens, wildlife).  It may not *look* nice and it may take longer for the drug to be absorbed, but it is humane. The degree of pain or discomfort is on par with giving an IV injection or placing a cannula (like during a normal euthanasia), and in some instances it is *more* humane (eg; compared to a vet or nurse making multiple unsuccessful attempts to get an IV in a small, collapsed patient).","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  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{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14ko1u","c_root_id_B":"h155zdq","created_at_utc_A":1623223194,"created_at_utc_B":1623240358,"score_A":16,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"All of those things sound horrible!  I think in any job, there will be bad apples, unfortunately. I will tell you that everyone in the profession is here because we love animals and they are our priority. At the very least, a vet wants to protect their veterinary license by following laws and regulations.   You can always ask for a hospital tour or for things to be done in the treatment room. We always seem to miss the vein when we are being watched though \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"I have had a very long veterinary career spanning multiple countries and alongside thousands of vets, nurses, technicians and receptionists.  I can say that the main point that stands out in this story is that the person relaying this information should have, would have, and probably still has the right to report this to a governing body anonymously (all complaints are investigated fully).    The hitting incident should be reported.  This should never happen.   The avian incident is unclear.  Without knowing the rarity of the condition, the proximity of an avian practice, and the risks conveyed to the owners at the time of consent, there really isn\u2019t a way to pass judgment on this case.  There are risks in any surgery, and death is not an indicator of expertise.  Vets are skilled, but not Gods capable of defying death in all circumstances.   The kitten being euthanized abdominally is not malpractice\u2014 and it\u2019s sometimes the kinder choice with tiny pets. I will say that kittens have notoriously difficult veins, even when healthy. It\u2019s unclear what condition this kitten was in, but the fact that it\u2019s owner made the difficult decision to euthanize says that this kitten was likely unwell, making veinous euthanasia even more difficult and likely more painful than what took place.   Thankfully in all of my years, I have never witnessed any abuse in the industry.  I\u2019m honored by and grateful to every veterinary professional I\u2019ve known\u2014 because most pet owners don\u2019t see how they literally carry the weight of the work they do, alongside the knowledge and weight that these pets (even the smallest) are central family members.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17164.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h155zdq","c_root_id_B":"h153iy8","created_at_utc_A":1623240358,"created_at_utc_B":1623238838,"score_A":36,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I have had a very long veterinary career spanning multiple countries and alongside thousands of vets, nurses, technicians and receptionists.  I can say that the main point that stands out in this story is that the person relaying this information should have, would have, and probably still has the right to report this to a governing body anonymously (all complaints are investigated fully).    The hitting incident should be reported.  This should never happen.   The avian incident is unclear.  Without knowing the rarity of the condition, the proximity of an avian practice, and the risks conveyed to the owners at the time of consent, there really isn\u2019t a way to pass judgment on this case.  There are risks in any surgery, and death is not an indicator of expertise.  Vets are skilled, but not Gods capable of defying death in all circumstances.   The kitten being euthanized abdominally is not malpractice\u2014 and it\u2019s sometimes the kinder choice with tiny pets. I will say that kittens have notoriously difficult veins, even when healthy. It\u2019s unclear what condition this kitten was in, but the fact that it\u2019s owner made the difficult decision to euthanize says that this kitten was likely unwell, making veinous euthanasia even more difficult and likely more painful than what took place.   Thankfully in all of my years, I have never witnessed any abuse in the industry.  I\u2019m honored by and grateful to every veterinary professional I\u2019ve known\u2014 because most pet owners don\u2019t see how they literally carry the weight of the work they do, alongside the knowledge and weight that these pets (even the smallest) are central family members.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet - but work in the veterinary industry in a non clinical role, in which I regularly undertake planned and unplanned visits to veterinary hospitals behind the scenes in staff only areas. Not once have I witnessed a single incident animals being treated in such a way. I\u2019d go as far as to say I\u2019ve never seen pets being treated with even contempt let alone violence. She should report this, even if it\u2019s retroactively.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1520.0,"score_ratio":2.7692307692}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h150rje","c_root_id_B":"h155zdq","created_at_utc_A":1623236949,"created_at_utc_B":1623240358,"score_A":13,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"One of the worst things I have seen was when a family brought in three kittens to the vet where my dog was being operated. The issue was that the vet from the area of their residence had fed the tiny, not even 2 months old kittens, the deworming tablets which are meant for adult cats. Absolute medical negligence and in India you cannot do anything about it. The vets where I was tried all they could but the three kittens passed away. But this was an isolated incident. Never the less enquiring about the place where your pets will be treated is always good. Most of the vets and vet tech staff I have known have been absolutely amazing and caring.","human_ref_B":"I have had a very long veterinary career spanning multiple countries and alongside thousands of vets, nurses, technicians and receptionists.  I can say that the main point that stands out in this story is that the person relaying this information should have, would have, and probably still has the right to report this to a governing body anonymously (all complaints are investigated fully).    The hitting incident should be reported.  This should never happen.   The avian incident is unclear.  Without knowing the rarity of the condition, the proximity of an avian practice, and the risks conveyed to the owners at the time of consent, there really isn\u2019t a way to pass judgment on this case.  There are risks in any surgery, and death is not an indicator of expertise.  Vets are skilled, but not Gods capable of defying death in all circumstances.   The kitten being euthanized abdominally is not malpractice\u2014 and it\u2019s sometimes the kinder choice with tiny pets. I will say that kittens have notoriously difficult veins, even when healthy. It\u2019s unclear what condition this kitten was in, but the fact that it\u2019s owner made the difficult decision to euthanize says that this kitten was likely unwell, making veinous euthanasia even more difficult and likely more painful than what took place.   Thankfully in all of my years, I have never witnessed any abuse in the industry.  I\u2019m honored by and grateful to every veterinary professional I\u2019ve known\u2014 because most pet owners don\u2019t see how they literally carry the weight of the work they do, alongside the knowledge and weight that these pets (even the smallest) are central family members.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3409.0,"score_ratio":2.7692307692}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14c67j","c_root_id_B":"h155zdq","created_at_utc_A":1623216580,"created_at_utc_B":1623240358,"score_A":3,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I have had a very long veterinary career spanning multiple countries and alongside thousands of vets, nurses, technicians and receptionists.  I can say that the main point that stands out in this story is that the person relaying this information should have, would have, and probably still has the right to report this to a governing body anonymously (all complaints are investigated fully).    The hitting incident should be reported.  This should never happen.   The avian incident is unclear.  Without knowing the rarity of the condition, the proximity of an avian practice, and the risks conveyed to the owners at the time of consent, there really isn\u2019t a way to pass judgment on this case.  There are risks in any surgery, and death is not an indicator of expertise.  Vets are skilled, but not Gods capable of defying death in all circumstances.   The kitten being euthanized abdominally is not malpractice\u2014 and it\u2019s sometimes the kinder choice with tiny pets. I will say that kittens have notoriously difficult veins, even when healthy. It\u2019s unclear what condition this kitten was in, but the fact that it\u2019s owner made the difficult decision to euthanize says that this kitten was likely unwell, making veinous euthanasia even more difficult and likely more painful than what took place.   Thankfully in all of my years, I have never witnessed any abuse in the industry.  I\u2019m honored by and grateful to every veterinary professional I\u2019ve known\u2014 because most pet owners don\u2019t see how they literally carry the weight of the work they do, alongside the knowledge and weight that these pets (even the smallest) are central family members.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23778.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14c67j","c_root_id_B":"h14ko1u","created_at_utc_A":1623216580,"created_at_utc_B":1623223194,"score_A":3,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"All of those things sound horrible!  I think in any job, there will be bad apples, unfortunately. I will tell you that everyone in the profession is here because we love animals and they are our priority. At the very least, a vet wants to protect their veterinary license by following laws and regulations.   You can always ask for a hospital tour or for things to be done in the treatment room. We always seem to miss the vein when we are being watched though \ud83d\ude02","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6614.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14c67j","c_root_id_B":"h153iy8","created_at_utc_A":1623216580,"created_at_utc_B":1623238838,"score_A":3,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Not a vet - but work in the veterinary industry in a non clinical role, in which I regularly undertake planned and unplanned visits to veterinary hospitals behind the scenes in staff only areas. Not once have I witnessed a single incident animals being treated in such a way. I\u2019d go as far as to say I\u2019ve never seen pets being treated with even contempt let alone violence. She should report this, even if it\u2019s retroactively.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22258.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h150rje","c_root_id_B":"h14c67j","created_at_utc_A":1623236949,"created_at_utc_B":1623216580,"score_A":13,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"One of the worst things I have seen was when a family brought in three kittens to the vet where my dog was being operated. The issue was that the vet from the area of their residence had fed the tiny, not even 2 months old kittens, the deworming tablets which are meant for adult cats. Absolute medical negligence and in India you cannot do anything about it. The vets where I was tried all they could but the three kittens passed away. But this was an isolated incident. Never the less enquiring about the place where your pets will be treated is always good. Most of the vets and vet tech staff I have known have been absolutely amazing and caring.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20369.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"nvo5u1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Abuse by veterinary staff? Hi, I don't know how relevant this is to this subreddit but I've been unable to find any information about this and I'm extremely concerned and don't know where to go for clarification.  I spoke to somebody at work today who made the very alarming statement that she would never leave her pet alone at a vet and always insists that they conduct any and all treatments in front of her.  At my request she elaborated: she used to work as a vet nurse and she (along with a number of people she knows) left the veterinary industry because she couldn't tolerate the abuse she saw perpetrated on animals by veterinary staff.  She acknowledged the inherent difficulties in the industry (high suicide rate, poor pay, high stress, etc.), but said that nothing excused the behaviour she witnessed.  She told me hideous stories like a vet nurse closed-fist punching a dog who was hesitant to go into a crate (splitting his head open to the point that he required stitches and telling the family he \"fell\" off a treatment table), a vet with no avian experience telling a family that he was capable of treating a pet bird, reading the instructions out of a book during the procedure and ultimately killing the bird, and most horrifically, a veterinarian injecting a sickly kitten who had to be put down into the stomach (causing a painful and protracted death) because she was too small and he could not be bothered to find a vein.  She said it was common practice for staff to strike animals who were being difficult during treatment.  These weren't back-alley vets either; one of them was a well-known statewide vet with multiple locations.   Is this an unspoken horror of the industry that nobody talks about, or did she just have the unfortunate luck to work at the only three or four vets in the world where this is tolerated behaviour?  I can foresee no reason for her to lie about this, and I am, quite honestly, extremely hesitant about taking my cat to the vet now, especially given that she's a bit of a squirmer and they have taken her \"out the back\" for treatment before.  I just want to clarify: I'm not trying to shit on the industry and say that all vets are awful animal abusers - clearly the vast majority do it for the love and tolerate shocking working conditions in the hopes of doing some good.  If that wasn't my baseline assumption, I wouldn't be so freakin' spun out by this information.  Plz help?","c_root_id_A":"h14c67j","c_root_id_B":"h15caie","created_at_utc_A":1623216580,"created_at_utc_B":1623243840,"score_A":3,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Former vet tech, who has worked in many fields with many clients and many doctors. The closed fist punching is abusive, should have been reported. The case of the bird does not have all of the facts - what was discussed, was paperwork signed, what was the pre op care, drug choice, procedure, bloodwork, etc and all of these are factors. As for the matter of the euthanasia- I used to work in reproductive and we would do c-sections on dogs who could not deliver naturally. Some animals are born with birth defects and they cannot survive, some small neonates do have terrible veins and it would be more upsetting and torture to place an iv or even try. I have place an IV on a 3 day old - it\u2019s not fun or easy, sometimes cardiac sticks or hepatic sticks are the kindest thing.   Bad apples are everywhere. Abuse is everywhere. But your friend can pick up the phone at any time and make an anonymous tip to the medical board or to OSHA. More information is required, but if she feels so strong, she needs to report and as a nurse or tech that\u2019s a duty she should uphold.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27260.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"j6a6mt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Outside cat tested positive for feline leukemia... So I\u2019ve been caring for a stray male cat that showed up at my house for a few months now, today we took him to get his shots and he tested positive for feline leukemia, we are going to get him fixed soon and plan to keep him as an outside cat but my concern is I have 2 inside cats that have been fixed and have had all there shots, what are the chances that my indoor cats could catch the virus from him?","c_root_id_A":"g7xmx67","c_root_id_B":"g7xmimm","created_at_utc_A":1602015990,"created_at_utc_B":1602015786,"score_A":64,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"It can be transmitted by sharing water bowls and mutual grooming. As long as your cats are vaccinated against FeLV and are kept indoors they should be ok.  The most common screening test that is done at the vet clinic can have false positives - it's estimated that over 36% of positive results are actually false positives. There is another more specific test that can be done by sending a blood sample to an outside laboratory. If you want confirmation, ask your veterinarian and they can probably do that when you bring him to be neutered","human_ref_B":"Feline leukemia can be spread through saliva, like sharing water bowls or grooming each other. Definitely more contagious.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":204.0,"score_ratio":2.56}
{"post_id":"he5t96","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"This May Sound Silly- But As A Receptionist\/Tech, Are the Vets Offended By Who I Ask To Do My Dog's Procedure- or Does It Put Them Out- Or Neither? This is going to sound so silly, but as someone that works at a vet hospital, I actually worry a lot about whether the vets will read into who I have see my dog. Will they be offended, or think it means I think one is better than the others or something? Or on the other hand, if I have the same one treat her too much, (they're all so so nice they don't charge us for their time) will that vet feel frustrated because they're losing out on appointments?  Also, I'd really like to have her dental done soon because she has a epulis that's basically occluding her tooth, and I really don't want it to decay too much, plus I doubt she can use that tooth, and there's a lump I might want biopsied. But things are so busy with COVID, we're scheduling procedures a couple weeks out at least. Do you think it would be rude to ask whether they would be willing to yet?  Dr. X sees my dog the most, so I think my dog knows her best, as she did her last procedure too, so I thought maybe I'd ask her, but Dr. Y saw her last, and had mentioned she'd be happy to do the procedure. So would either be offended if I ask one and not the other?","c_root_id_A":"fvppihn","c_root_id_B":"fvpnvix","created_at_utc_A":1592888344,"created_at_utc_B":1592887152,"score_A":20,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"We all would be ecstatic if all clients (staff too) asked for their preferred doctor for any visit, be it exams or surgeries. You have to be your own advocate in life and for your pets.   As the saying goes, You have to speak to be heard.   We won't be offended, trust me.","human_ref_B":"Isn\u2019t the well being of your dog more important than possibly offending someone?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1192.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"clgmwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I need advice on what to do with my two dogs that are being neglected at my parents house. Not sure if this is the right sub for this but need help!  This really pains me to talk about as I love my dog, Bandit dearly. He is my bestfriend and aided me throughout my childhood. He deserves a good life and he is not getting one.  Bandit is a King Charles Cavalier x Maltese.   We just really stuffed up with this this poor dog. My mum bought him for me in 2010 when I was 10.  Eventually my mum got a boyfriend and he moved in with us in 2013. He brought his dog with him, Puppa who was the same age as Bandit and a sausage dog.  Puppa was the centre of my step dads attention.   Everything was pretty much fine until my mum and step dad had a child together. The dogs received less and less attention from my parents. I kept trying to play with them but it got more and more difficult as the dogs became more stressed.  Puppa is completely ball obsessed and very very jealous. I can\u2019t pat or sit with Bandit without Puppa taking over. My vet told me not to walk Bandit anymore as he has heart issues. The dogs are inseparable and I can\u2019t take one away from the other.  Then in 2015 my parents moved houses and the dogs were no longer allowed inside the house. I think this was a massive shock to them. Interactions got even lower for the dogs. Again, I was the only one who made effort for them.  In 2018 I was kicked out from my parents and I\u2019ve lived out of home ever since. The dogs get close to no interaction with people and are limited to a small backyard.   I feel horrible, I can\u2019t take them on as I\u2019m living at my boyfriends parents house. I just wish my parents made responsible decisions when it came to the dogs. They are clearly very unhappy and starving for attention.   I\u2019ve thought about talking to my parents about rehoming them but it breaks my heart to think about giving away my Bandit. But I think if that\u2019s the most humane decision then I can put my feelings aside.   I don\u2019t think my step dad could part with Puppa although he never spends time with him. And I don\u2019t think the dogs could be seperate.   I\u2019d like to hope in the future I\u2019ll have my own place and I\u2019ll be able to take Bandit but again, I don\u2019t think the dogs could be separated nor would my step dad allow me to take Puppa and I don\u2019t know when I\u2019ll have my own place.     Wtf do I do :(","c_root_id_A":"evv91sz","c_root_id_B":"evvdh8h","created_at_utc_A":1564826043,"created_at_utc_B":1564832469,"score_A":24,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Try to rehome them :( ymghet","human_ref_B":"If the step dad wont let them in them the house, he doesn't give a shit and you should find a nice home for both dogs.  Ask friends where you might still be able to check up on them. Failing that, ask a rescue if they will take the neglected dogs, they will do home checks or place in permanent foster.   If they are genuinely neglected, don't ask, just take them. These are sentient beings and they feel pain, upset and loss just like us, they must be fucking miserable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6426.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"clgmwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I need advice on what to do with my two dogs that are being neglected at my parents house. Not sure if this is the right sub for this but need help!  This really pains me to talk about as I love my dog, Bandit dearly. He is my bestfriend and aided me throughout my childhood. He deserves a good life and he is not getting one.  Bandit is a King Charles Cavalier x Maltese.   We just really stuffed up with this this poor dog. My mum bought him for me in 2010 when I was 10.  Eventually my mum got a boyfriend and he moved in with us in 2013. He brought his dog with him, Puppa who was the same age as Bandit and a sausage dog.  Puppa was the centre of my step dads attention.   Everything was pretty much fine until my mum and step dad had a child together. The dogs received less and less attention from my parents. I kept trying to play with them but it got more and more difficult as the dogs became more stressed.  Puppa is completely ball obsessed and very very jealous. I can\u2019t pat or sit with Bandit without Puppa taking over. My vet told me not to walk Bandit anymore as he has heart issues. The dogs are inseparable and I can\u2019t take one away from the other.  Then in 2015 my parents moved houses and the dogs were no longer allowed inside the house. I think this was a massive shock to them. Interactions got even lower for the dogs. Again, I was the only one who made effort for them.  In 2018 I was kicked out from my parents and I\u2019ve lived out of home ever since. The dogs get close to no interaction with people and are limited to a small backyard.   I feel horrible, I can\u2019t take them on as I\u2019m living at my boyfriends parents house. I just wish my parents made responsible decisions when it came to the dogs. They are clearly very unhappy and starving for attention.   I\u2019ve thought about talking to my parents about rehoming them but it breaks my heart to think about giving away my Bandit. But I think if that\u2019s the most humane decision then I can put my feelings aside.   I don\u2019t think my step dad could part with Puppa although he never spends time with him. And I don\u2019t think the dogs could be seperate.   I\u2019d like to hope in the future I\u2019ll have my own place and I\u2019ll be able to take Bandit but again, I don\u2019t think the dogs could be separated nor would my step dad allow me to take Puppa and I don\u2019t know when I\u2019ll have my own place.     Wtf do I do :(","c_root_id_A":"evv91sz","c_root_id_B":"evvcv5d","created_at_utc_A":1564826043,"created_at_utc_B":1564831657,"score_A":24,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"Try to rehome them :( ymghet","human_ref_B":"Is there anyway for you to take them out daily?  If you can\u2019t walk bandit you can get a wagon or stroller and take them to a park. You don\u2019t have to do anything but you could just sit there and give them attention.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5614.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"clgmwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I need advice on what to do with my two dogs that are being neglected at my parents house. Not sure if this is the right sub for this but need help!  This really pains me to talk about as I love my dog, Bandit dearly. He is my bestfriend and aided me throughout my childhood. He deserves a good life and he is not getting one.  Bandit is a King Charles Cavalier x Maltese.   We just really stuffed up with this this poor dog. My mum bought him for me in 2010 when I was 10.  Eventually my mum got a boyfriend and he moved in with us in 2013. He brought his dog with him, Puppa who was the same age as Bandit and a sausage dog.  Puppa was the centre of my step dads attention.   Everything was pretty much fine until my mum and step dad had a child together. The dogs received less and less attention from my parents. I kept trying to play with them but it got more and more difficult as the dogs became more stressed.  Puppa is completely ball obsessed and very very jealous. I can\u2019t pat or sit with Bandit without Puppa taking over. My vet told me not to walk Bandit anymore as he has heart issues. The dogs are inseparable and I can\u2019t take one away from the other.  Then in 2015 my parents moved houses and the dogs were no longer allowed inside the house. I think this was a massive shock to them. Interactions got even lower for the dogs. Again, I was the only one who made effort for them.  In 2018 I was kicked out from my parents and I\u2019ve lived out of home ever since. The dogs get close to no interaction with people and are limited to a small backyard.   I feel horrible, I can\u2019t take them on as I\u2019m living at my boyfriends parents house. I just wish my parents made responsible decisions when it came to the dogs. They are clearly very unhappy and starving for attention.   I\u2019ve thought about talking to my parents about rehoming them but it breaks my heart to think about giving away my Bandit. But I think if that\u2019s the most humane decision then I can put my feelings aside.   I don\u2019t think my step dad could part with Puppa although he never spends time with him. And I don\u2019t think the dogs could be seperate.   I\u2019d like to hope in the future I\u2019ll have my own place and I\u2019ll be able to take Bandit but again, I don\u2019t think the dogs could be separated nor would my step dad allow me to take Puppa and I don\u2019t know when I\u2019ll have my own place.     Wtf do I do :(","c_root_id_A":"evvyd9z","c_root_id_B":"evw9pqt","created_at_utc_A":1564850522,"created_at_utc_B":1564858662,"score_A":9,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Give \/r\/legaladvice a try","human_ref_B":"Call animal welfare","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8140.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"clgmwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I need advice on what to do with my two dogs that are being neglected at my parents house. Not sure if this is the right sub for this but need help!  This really pains me to talk about as I love my dog, Bandit dearly. He is my bestfriend and aided me throughout my childhood. He deserves a good life and he is not getting one.  Bandit is a King Charles Cavalier x Maltese.   We just really stuffed up with this this poor dog. My mum bought him for me in 2010 when I was 10.  Eventually my mum got a boyfriend and he moved in with us in 2013. He brought his dog with him, Puppa who was the same age as Bandit and a sausage dog.  Puppa was the centre of my step dads attention.   Everything was pretty much fine until my mum and step dad had a child together. The dogs received less and less attention from my parents. I kept trying to play with them but it got more and more difficult as the dogs became more stressed.  Puppa is completely ball obsessed and very very jealous. I can\u2019t pat or sit with Bandit without Puppa taking over. My vet told me not to walk Bandit anymore as he has heart issues. The dogs are inseparable and I can\u2019t take one away from the other.  Then in 2015 my parents moved houses and the dogs were no longer allowed inside the house. I think this was a massive shock to them. Interactions got even lower for the dogs. Again, I was the only one who made effort for them.  In 2018 I was kicked out from my parents and I\u2019ve lived out of home ever since. The dogs get close to no interaction with people and are limited to a small backyard.   I feel horrible, I can\u2019t take them on as I\u2019m living at my boyfriends parents house. I just wish my parents made responsible decisions when it came to the dogs. They are clearly very unhappy and starving for attention.   I\u2019ve thought about talking to my parents about rehoming them but it breaks my heart to think about giving away my Bandit. But I think if that\u2019s the most humane decision then I can put my feelings aside.   I don\u2019t think my step dad could part with Puppa although he never spends time with him. And I don\u2019t think the dogs could be seperate.   I\u2019d like to hope in the future I\u2019ll have my own place and I\u2019ll be able to take Bandit but again, I don\u2019t think the dogs could be separated nor would my step dad allow me to take Puppa and I don\u2019t know when I\u2019ll have my own place.     Wtf do I do :(","c_root_id_A":"evw11pa","c_root_id_B":"evw9pqt","created_at_utc_A":1564852431,"created_at_utc_B":1564858662,"score_A":6,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I would find them a better home. No animal deserves to be in a cage with no attention! I\u2019m sorry. I know it hurts, but won\u2019t you be happier knowing they are happier? As for telling your parents, I might just find them a home and last minute let them know that it\u2019s for the best because animals don\u2019t deserve to be treated that way. They can become depressed and are very smart.","human_ref_B":"Call animal welfare","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6231.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"clgmwl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I need advice on what to do with my two dogs that are being neglected at my parents house. Not sure if this is the right sub for this but need help!  This really pains me to talk about as I love my dog, Bandit dearly. He is my bestfriend and aided me throughout my childhood. He deserves a good life and he is not getting one.  Bandit is a King Charles Cavalier x Maltese.   We just really stuffed up with this this poor dog. My mum bought him for me in 2010 when I was 10.  Eventually my mum got a boyfriend and he moved in with us in 2013. He brought his dog with him, Puppa who was the same age as Bandit and a sausage dog.  Puppa was the centre of my step dads attention.   Everything was pretty much fine until my mum and step dad had a child together. The dogs received less and less attention from my parents. I kept trying to play with them but it got more and more difficult as the dogs became more stressed.  Puppa is completely ball obsessed and very very jealous. I can\u2019t pat or sit with Bandit without Puppa taking over. My vet told me not to walk Bandit anymore as he has heart issues. The dogs are inseparable and I can\u2019t take one away from the other.  Then in 2015 my parents moved houses and the dogs were no longer allowed inside the house. I think this was a massive shock to them. Interactions got even lower for the dogs. Again, I was the only one who made effort for them.  In 2018 I was kicked out from my parents and I\u2019ve lived out of home ever since. The dogs get close to no interaction with people and are limited to a small backyard.   I feel horrible, I can\u2019t take them on as I\u2019m living at my boyfriends parents house. I just wish my parents made responsible decisions when it came to the dogs. They are clearly very unhappy and starving for attention.   I\u2019ve thought about talking to my parents about rehoming them but it breaks my heart to think about giving away my Bandit. But I think if that\u2019s the most humane decision then I can put my feelings aside.   I don\u2019t think my step dad could part with Puppa although he never spends time with him. And I don\u2019t think the dogs could be seperate.   I\u2019d like to hope in the future I\u2019ll have my own place and I\u2019ll be able to take Bandit but again, I don\u2019t think the dogs could be separated nor would my step dad allow me to take Puppa and I don\u2019t know when I\u2019ll have my own place.     Wtf do I do :(","c_root_id_A":"evwrjb4","c_root_id_B":"evwy7ac","created_at_utc_A":1564871552,"created_at_utc_B":1564876610,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I would suggest calling animal control","human_ref_B":"You have to report them. It's the only way to get them the help they need. A dog with heart problems  shouldn't be stuck outside all day especially  in the summer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5058.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"hforid","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My hamster eats little hard foods and I fear his teeth will (again) grow too large Species: Russian dwarf hamster  Age: a little over a year  History: At some point he just stopped eating hard foods entirely. He would no longer open the sunflower seeds he couldnt get enough of before. He didn't eat anything for 2 full days and started becoming quite skinny. My GF and I started feeding him water saturated pellets that became mushy, and he started eating those which went well for some time and he gained weight again. After like 1,5 months we found out that his long upper teeth which grew curled inwards were the problem. Went to the vet and they cut his teeth to a normal size, told us to see how it goes in about 6 weeks.  Your general location: Netherlands  Even with his teeth cut, he still doesn't open fully sealed seeds. He will take them in his paws, rotate it a few times, then drop it, just like before. If I make an incision into the seed with my nail, he will open them (most of the time). He doesn't appear to eat that much hard food (its really hard to check cuz he digs in his feeding bowl and scatters it around, so its hard to judge if he actually ate stuff). I have seen him pick out the mealworms from his hard food bowl, but nothing else. I'm afraid that he's not eating enough if I would give him just hard foods because of the still not opening seeds, so I'm still feeding him with a bit of soft food because I'm afraid he will starve otherwise. But at the same time I'm afraid this will prevent him from keeping his teeth short by gnawing on hard foods.   Would like some advice.","c_root_id_A":"fvz2dyc","c_root_id_B":"fvziv6n","created_at_utc_A":1593106059,"created_at_utc_B":1593113948,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Will he eat hay?","human_ref_B":"Have you tried pellets before?    (Er is btw een sub r\/hamsters met mensen die maybe gelijke ervaringen hebben? Heb zelf geen ervaring verder met hamsters, sorry!)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7889.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"hforid","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My hamster eats little hard foods and I fear his teeth will (again) grow too large Species: Russian dwarf hamster  Age: a little over a year  History: At some point he just stopped eating hard foods entirely. He would no longer open the sunflower seeds he couldnt get enough of before. He didn't eat anything for 2 full days and started becoming quite skinny. My GF and I started feeding him water saturated pellets that became mushy, and he started eating those which went well for some time and he gained weight again. After like 1,5 months we found out that his long upper teeth which grew curled inwards were the problem. Went to the vet and they cut his teeth to a normal size, told us to see how it goes in about 6 weeks.  Your general location: Netherlands  Even with his teeth cut, he still doesn't open fully sealed seeds. He will take them in his paws, rotate it a few times, then drop it, just like before. If I make an incision into the seed with my nail, he will open them (most of the time). He doesn't appear to eat that much hard food (its really hard to check cuz he digs in his feeding bowl and scatters it around, so its hard to judge if he actually ate stuff). I have seen him pick out the mealworms from his hard food bowl, but nothing else. I'm afraid that he's not eating enough if I would give him just hard foods because of the still not opening seeds, so I'm still feeding him with a bit of soft food because I'm afraid he will starve otherwise. But at the same time I'm afraid this will prevent him from keeping his teeth short by gnawing on hard foods.   Would like some advice.","c_root_id_A":"fw0iluf","c_root_id_B":"fvz2dyc","created_at_utc_A":1593132481,"created_at_utc_B":1593106059,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Does he have chew toys. In my hamster experience chew toys were more than enough to keep their teeth down, and only one of my hamsters has ever gone through a whole toy so I don\u2019t have to replace the toys often","human_ref_B":"Will he eat hay?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26422.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"hforid","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My hamster eats little hard foods and I fear his teeth will (again) grow too large Species: Russian dwarf hamster  Age: a little over a year  History: At some point he just stopped eating hard foods entirely. He would no longer open the sunflower seeds he couldnt get enough of before. He didn't eat anything for 2 full days and started becoming quite skinny. My GF and I started feeding him water saturated pellets that became mushy, and he started eating those which went well for some time and he gained weight again. After like 1,5 months we found out that his long upper teeth which grew curled inwards were the problem. Went to the vet and they cut his teeth to a normal size, told us to see how it goes in about 6 weeks.  Your general location: Netherlands  Even with his teeth cut, he still doesn't open fully sealed seeds. He will take them in his paws, rotate it a few times, then drop it, just like before. If I make an incision into the seed with my nail, he will open them (most of the time). He doesn't appear to eat that much hard food (its really hard to check cuz he digs in his feeding bowl and scatters it around, so its hard to judge if he actually ate stuff). I have seen him pick out the mealworms from his hard food bowl, but nothing else. I'm afraid that he's not eating enough if I would give him just hard foods because of the still not opening seeds, so I'm still feeding him with a bit of soft food because I'm afraid he will starve otherwise. But at the same time I'm afraid this will prevent him from keeping his teeth short by gnawing on hard foods.   Would like some advice.","c_root_id_A":"fvz2dyc","c_root_id_B":"fw0hr3m","created_at_utc_A":1593106059,"created_at_utc_B":1593131974,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Will he eat hay?","human_ref_B":"Do you provide enrichment for your hamster? Toys, willow balls, chew blocks, etc... To encourage chewing?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25915.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"hforid","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My hamster eats little hard foods and I fear his teeth will (again) grow too large Species: Russian dwarf hamster  Age: a little over a year  History: At some point he just stopped eating hard foods entirely. He would no longer open the sunflower seeds he couldnt get enough of before. He didn't eat anything for 2 full days and started becoming quite skinny. My GF and I started feeding him water saturated pellets that became mushy, and he started eating those which went well for some time and he gained weight again. After like 1,5 months we found out that his long upper teeth which grew curled inwards were the problem. Went to the vet and they cut his teeth to a normal size, told us to see how it goes in about 6 weeks.  Your general location: Netherlands  Even with his teeth cut, he still doesn't open fully sealed seeds. He will take them in his paws, rotate it a few times, then drop it, just like before. If I make an incision into the seed with my nail, he will open them (most of the time). He doesn't appear to eat that much hard food (its really hard to check cuz he digs in his feeding bowl and scatters it around, so its hard to judge if he actually ate stuff). I have seen him pick out the mealworms from his hard food bowl, but nothing else. I'm afraid that he's not eating enough if I would give him just hard foods because of the still not opening seeds, so I'm still feeding him with a bit of soft food because I'm afraid he will starve otherwise. But at the same time I'm afraid this will prevent him from keeping his teeth short by gnawing on hard foods.   Would like some advice.","c_root_id_A":"fw0ldne","c_root_id_B":"fvz2dyc","created_at_utc_A":1593134140,"created_at_utc_B":1593106059,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Does he have anything to chew on? Typically, rodent-safe things like wood blocks or nyla bones may help wear down the teeth. Also, if he eats hard pellets that will help as well (the soft pellets won't wear down the teeth). But that won't help as much if they are are already too long\/curving.","human_ref_B":"Will he eat hay?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28081.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"wqb8ey","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"22 year old female cat suddenly paralyzed in the hind legs\/tail for about 2 days. General weakness before that. Hey, appreciate anyone reading.  My 22 year old Female cat (~6lbs) has been unable to walk at all for about 2 days now. It seems her hind legs & tail are paralyzed and she's unable to get out of bed. I don't know if this is the end.  Over the years, obviously she's become quite a bit weaker. But she's still been able to handle stairs and everything still until now.  The past few months, her back legs have gotten noticeably weaker over time. She's had trouble standing while eating with her legs slipping on the tile but she's mostly been able to catch herself.  As of two days ago, very suddenly, she's been unable to walk at all. It's clearly her hind legs are just dead weight, her front legs are weak but alright. She's alert and still eating\/drinking, but we need to put it directly next to her as she can't get up.  A vet we saw a month ago (regarding her legs slipping while standing) said it might be general weakness\/arthritis so they gave her a gabapentin prescription.  A vet we saw today (regarding her being unable to stand or move her back legs\/tail) said he doesn't know why it's happening, she might have just hurt her nerves, there's nothing we can do, and he recommends euthanasia.  I'm taking her to one more vet tomorrow but I'm heartbroken. She seems still so alert yet she just can't move at all. Her hind legs are immobilized and her front legs are weak. I want to believe she'll just get over it but I don't know she will.  She's been healthy pretty much before this, besides a couple UTIs that cleared up with antibiotics.  What can I do? Is this the end?","c_root_id_A":"ikmpi79","c_root_id_B":"ikozdec","created_at_utc_A":1660723420,"created_at_utc_B":1660762772,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Have you checked for Paralysis tics? I'm not sure if that's only an Australian thing. Also not a vet.","human_ref_B":"22 years is extremely old for a cat. You obviously did something right! But at this point it comes down to quality of life.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":39352.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wqb8ey","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"22 year old female cat suddenly paralyzed in the hind legs\/tail for about 2 days. General weakness before that. Hey, appreciate anyone reading.  My 22 year old Female cat (~6lbs) has been unable to walk at all for about 2 days now. It seems her hind legs & tail are paralyzed and she's unable to get out of bed. I don't know if this is the end.  Over the years, obviously she's become quite a bit weaker. But she's still been able to handle stairs and everything still until now.  The past few months, her back legs have gotten noticeably weaker over time. She's had trouble standing while eating with her legs slipping on the tile but she's mostly been able to catch herself.  As of two days ago, very suddenly, she's been unable to walk at all. It's clearly her hind legs are just dead weight, her front legs are weak but alright. She's alert and still eating\/drinking, but we need to put it directly next to her as she can't get up.  A vet we saw a month ago (regarding her legs slipping while standing) said it might be general weakness\/arthritis so they gave her a gabapentin prescription.  A vet we saw today (regarding her being unable to stand or move her back legs\/tail) said he doesn't know why it's happening, she might have just hurt her nerves, there's nothing we can do, and he recommends euthanasia.  I'm taking her to one more vet tomorrow but I'm heartbroken. She seems still so alert yet she just can't move at all. Her hind legs are immobilized and her front legs are weak. I want to believe she'll just get over it but I don't know she will.  She's been healthy pretty much before this, besides a couple UTIs that cleared up with antibiotics.  What can I do? Is this the end?","c_root_id_A":"ikof47k","c_root_id_B":"ikozdec","created_at_utc_A":1660755186,"created_at_utc_B":1660762772,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Just sending warm wishes and hugs from across the world. I am envious of the long years you've had with her, but I'm sorry you're going thru this. I'm pleased you have family with you.","human_ref_B":"22 years is extremely old for a cat. You obviously did something right! But at this point it comes down to quality of life.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7586.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wqb8ey","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"22 year old female cat suddenly paralyzed in the hind legs\/tail for about 2 days. General weakness before that. Hey, appreciate anyone reading.  My 22 year old Female cat (~6lbs) has been unable to walk at all for about 2 days now. It seems her hind legs & tail are paralyzed and she's unable to get out of bed. I don't know if this is the end.  Over the years, obviously she's become quite a bit weaker. But she's still been able to handle stairs and everything still until now.  The past few months, her back legs have gotten noticeably weaker over time. She's had trouble standing while eating with her legs slipping on the tile but she's mostly been able to catch herself.  As of two days ago, very suddenly, she's been unable to walk at all. It's clearly her hind legs are just dead weight, her front legs are weak but alright. She's alert and still eating\/drinking, but we need to put it directly next to her as she can't get up.  A vet we saw a month ago (regarding her legs slipping while standing) said it might be general weakness\/arthritis so they gave her a gabapentin prescription.  A vet we saw today (regarding her being unable to stand or move her back legs\/tail) said he doesn't know why it's happening, she might have just hurt her nerves, there's nothing we can do, and he recommends euthanasia.  I'm taking her to one more vet tomorrow but I'm heartbroken. She seems still so alert yet she just can't move at all. Her hind legs are immobilized and her front legs are weak. I want to believe she'll just get over it but I don't know she will.  She's been healthy pretty much before this, besides a couple UTIs that cleared up with antibiotics.  What can I do? Is this the end?","c_root_id_A":"ikozdec","c_root_id_B":"ikojtr5","created_at_utc_A":1660762772,"created_at_utc_B":1660756967,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"22 years is extremely old for a cat. You obviously did something right! But at this point it comes down to quality of life.","human_ref_B":"How Is she able to bathroom? that alone is a very important aspect to quality of life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5805.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wqb8ey","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"22 year old female cat suddenly paralyzed in the hind legs\/tail for about 2 days. General weakness before that. Hey, appreciate anyone reading.  My 22 year old Female cat (~6lbs) has been unable to walk at all for about 2 days now. It seems her hind legs & tail are paralyzed and she's unable to get out of bed. I don't know if this is the end.  Over the years, obviously she's become quite a bit weaker. But she's still been able to handle stairs and everything still until now.  The past few months, her back legs have gotten noticeably weaker over time. She's had trouble standing while eating with her legs slipping on the tile but she's mostly been able to catch herself.  As of two days ago, very suddenly, she's been unable to walk at all. It's clearly her hind legs are just dead weight, her front legs are weak but alright. She's alert and still eating\/drinking, but we need to put it directly next to her as she can't get up.  A vet we saw a month ago (regarding her legs slipping while standing) said it might be general weakness\/arthritis so they gave her a gabapentin prescription.  A vet we saw today (regarding her being unable to stand or move her back legs\/tail) said he doesn't know why it's happening, she might have just hurt her nerves, there's nothing we can do, and he recommends euthanasia.  I'm taking her to one more vet tomorrow but I'm heartbroken. She seems still so alert yet she just can't move at all. Her hind legs are immobilized and her front legs are weak. I want to believe she'll just get over it but I don't know she will.  She's been healthy pretty much before this, besides a couple UTIs that cleared up with antibiotics.  What can I do? Is this the end?","c_root_id_A":"ikopb0j","c_root_id_B":"ikozdec","created_at_utc_A":1660759016,"created_at_utc_B":1660762772,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Ask for an Xray. Idk if one was already done in this case, but that could shed some more light on the situation.","human_ref_B":"22 years is extremely old for a cat. You obviously did something right! But at this point it comes down to quality of life.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3756.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"oanu2q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I lost my kitty during a routine exam Age: 6 Sex: female, spayed Weight: 13lbs  No previous health issues  My kitty coded during a routine blood-draw. I just want to preface my story with the fact that I have 100% faith that my vet did everything they could. It was not negligence on their part. My kitty started to seize when they drew blood so they gave her a sedative and put her in an oxygen chamber. Then, when she went into cardiac arrest, they did CPR on her, gave her a shot of epinephrine but to no avail.   My vet was floored. What was a routine new-patient exam ended in me saying goodbye to my kitty. There wasn\u2019t a dry eye in the house, lemme tell ya. Anyway. My vet took an ultrasound on my kitty and found a blockage in her heart - whether it was a tumor or a clot we\u2019ll never know, but she did say that this is not uncommon in cats - that you\u2019ll never know they have heart problems until one day they just drop dead. My question is: has this ever happened in your practice? My brain refuses to accept that my seemingly healthy cat just died of a heart attack during a routine exam so here I am seeking answers.  Thoughts?   I would love any input. Thank you to all of the veterinary professionals out there. I want to reiterate that this team went above and beyond to save my kitty. Even paid for all of her treatment and cremation. Bless you all","c_root_id_A":"h3jh80o","c_root_id_B":"h3jo2a9","created_at_utc_A":1625043434,"created_at_utc_B":1625049669,"score_A":18,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Despite having been in practice for only 3 years I've seen at least a handful of cases of cats with heart disease that has already progressed too far by the time the owners can tell there's anything wrong. I'm so sorry for your loss. Heart disease is more common in pedigree cats, too, if your little lady was a fancy breed?","human_ref_B":"Cats are masters of hiding end stage cardiac disease, something as small as the stress of an exam is enough to push these ones over the edge. I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you and the vet team and going through.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6235.0,"score_ratio":1.0555555556}
{"post_id":"oanu2q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I lost my kitty during a routine exam Age: 6 Sex: female, spayed Weight: 13lbs  No previous health issues  My kitty coded during a routine blood-draw. I just want to preface my story with the fact that I have 100% faith that my vet did everything they could. It was not negligence on their part. My kitty started to seize when they drew blood so they gave her a sedative and put her in an oxygen chamber. Then, when she went into cardiac arrest, they did CPR on her, gave her a shot of epinephrine but to no avail.   My vet was floored. What was a routine new-patient exam ended in me saying goodbye to my kitty. There wasn\u2019t a dry eye in the house, lemme tell ya. Anyway. My vet took an ultrasound on my kitty and found a blockage in her heart - whether it was a tumor or a clot we\u2019ll never know, but she did say that this is not uncommon in cats - that you\u2019ll never know they have heart problems until one day they just drop dead. My question is: has this ever happened in your practice? My brain refuses to accept that my seemingly healthy cat just died of a heart attack during a routine exam so here I am seeking answers.  Thoughts?   I would love any input. Thank you to all of the veterinary professionals out there. I want to reiterate that this team went above and beyond to save my kitty. Even paid for all of her treatment and cremation. Bless you all","c_root_id_A":"h3k007w","c_root_id_B":"h3jw0eu","created_at_utc_A":1625057793,"created_at_utc_B":1625055429,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Not with a cat, but it is not unheard of to have an animal with an undiagnosed condition suddenly pass like this. Animals, cats in particular, are good at hiding when they are sick and sometimes we see no signs before suddenly its quite serious.","human_ref_B":"Saw something very similar with a dog. Dog came in fine- happy and prancing around. 20 mins later we had to tell the owner that the dog was gone.  The stress of being prepped for a blood draw seemed to be enough to trigger a preexisting issue that had gone unnoticed up until that point.  So sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2364.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"gt8chx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat scratched someone HIV+ - is it transmissable? Hi, I'm not sure if this is a silly question but my uncle came over and played with my cat. My cat being extra playful bit and scratched (not attacking him, my cat does this all the time), but this time I saw that there's some visible open wound from the scratches\/bites.  Will my cat be affected or be a carrier?","c_root_id_A":"fsa1rnr","c_root_id_B":"fsae3ib","created_at_utc_A":1590815439,"created_at_utc_B":1590825864,"score_A":62,"score_B":190,"human_ref_A":"HIV is not stable in the environment, so the answer is no.","human_ref_B":"No- your cat cannot contract HIV.   However I did want to add: since people with HIV are immunocompromised, your uncle may be at an increased risk of infection from an animal scratch\/bite, especially if it was not thoroughly washed immediately after. He may need to consider medical attention via calling his Dr. for further advice.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10425.0,"score_ratio":3.064516129}
{"post_id":"gt8chx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat scratched someone HIV+ - is it transmissable? Hi, I'm not sure if this is a silly question but my uncle came over and played with my cat. My cat being extra playful bit and scratched (not attacking him, my cat does this all the time), but this time I saw that there's some visible open wound from the scratches\/bites.  Will my cat be affected or be a carrier?","c_root_id_A":"fsae3ib","c_root_id_B":"fsa7b6g","created_at_utc_A":1590825864,"created_at_utc_B":1590819788,"score_A":190,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"No- your cat cannot contract HIV.   However I did want to add: since people with HIV are immunocompromised, your uncle may be at an increased risk of infection from an animal scratch\/bite, especially if it was not thoroughly washed immediately after. He may need to consider medical attention via calling his Dr. for further advice.","human_ref_B":"No, \u201chuman\u201d immune deficiency. Your cat will be fine. Cars have their own strain specific to their species but hiv is not transmissible to cats or dogs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6076.0,"score_ratio":8.2608695652}
{"post_id":"gt8chx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat scratched someone HIV+ - is it transmissable? Hi, I'm not sure if this is a silly question but my uncle came over and played with my cat. My cat being extra playful bit and scratched (not attacking him, my cat does this all the time), but this time I saw that there's some visible open wound from the scratches\/bites.  Will my cat be affected or be a carrier?","c_root_id_A":"fsae3ib","c_root_id_B":"fsa4zgh","created_at_utc_A":1590825864,"created_at_utc_B":1590817910,"score_A":190,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"No- your cat cannot contract HIV.   However I did want to add: since people with HIV are immunocompromised, your uncle may be at an increased risk of infection from an animal scratch\/bite, especially if it was not thoroughly washed immediately after. He may need to consider medical attention via calling his Dr. for further advice.","human_ref_B":"The short answer is no","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7954.0,"score_ratio":12.6666666667}
{"post_id":"gt8chx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Cat scratched someone HIV+ - is it transmissable? Hi, I'm not sure if this is a silly question but my uncle came over and played with my cat. My cat being extra playful bit and scratched (not attacking him, my cat does this all the time), but this time I saw that there's some visible open wound from the scratches\/bites.  Will my cat be affected or be a carrier?","c_root_id_A":"fsa4zgh","c_root_id_B":"fsa7b6g","created_at_utc_A":1590817910,"created_at_utc_B":1590819788,"score_A":15,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"The short answer is no","human_ref_B":"No, \u201chuman\u201d immune deficiency. Your cat will be fine. Cars have their own strain specific to their species but hiv is not transmissible to cats or dogs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1878.0,"score_ratio":1.5333333333}
{"post_id":"dte4tb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"What would be the reason for a vet to give back dog still under asleep after spaying? Some people around me consider this not good. My vet dressed up my 11 month border collie while telling us how to proceed. Water after she wakes up and diet food in the evening. It was a bit of a tense struggle but pain medication and my mother's motherly instinct that woke her up when Ellie was whining from returning pain in 1.a.m. made it through the night. She is OK now. Appetite is back... We are carrying her through stairs. She did not puke nor soil herself. But what if she went into complications after waking up. He gave us emergency number but what if the time delay was critical.  Any other vets seeing a possible reason why this would be OK?","c_root_id_A":"f6wfuu8","c_root_id_B":"f6wdg5n","created_at_utc_A":1573225562,"created_at_utc_B":1573223853,"score_A":63,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"So she was extubated but still asleep? Did the tech who extubated her confirm that she swallowed? Yeah that\u2019s very strange to discharge a dog that is still asleep. Was she sedated again due to anxiety at the clinic? Was that the reasoning?","human_ref_B":"She was completely asleep? Or was she groggy? Did you have to carry her into the car limp?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1709.0,"score_ratio":1.0161290323}
{"post_id":"zca7zp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I feel terrible. 10 minutes ago, my cat went somewhere he\u2019s not supposed to go, and in a last minute attempt, I grabbed him by his tail and lifted him out and dropped him. He meowed loudly towards the middle but he seemed fine after as well as now. I\u2019m scared about nerve damage, I didn\u2019t know ^","c_root_id_A":"iyvq847","c_root_id_B":"iyvswl2","created_at_utc_A":1670167865,"created_at_utc_B":1670169048,"score_A":47,"score_B":96,"human_ref_A":"Is his tail moving normally? Does he seem painful?","human_ref_B":"Get an appointment with your doctor to get a real examination  but if he snaps at you when you pinch his tail  behind the point you yanked  and moves it normally thats a good sign","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1183.0,"score_ratio":2.0425531915}
{"post_id":"zca7zp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I feel terrible. 10 minutes ago, my cat went somewhere he\u2019s not supposed to go, and in a last minute attempt, I grabbed him by his tail and lifted him out and dropped him. He meowed loudly towards the middle but he seemed fine after as well as now. I\u2019m scared about nerve damage, I didn\u2019t know ^","c_root_id_A":"iywpvcn","c_root_id_B":"iyvq847","created_at_utc_A":1670182262,"created_at_utc_B":1670167865,"score_A":48,"score_B":47,"human_ref_A":"If his tail is moving fine that\u2019s great news you could still take him to a vet even for a physical exam just to get him examined if he hasn\u2019t yet but as for the tail a lot of cats hate their butts being touched now it sounds you tugged it so of course it probably hurt him. Just apologize and give him pets and maybe bribe him with a treats but let him know your sorry  he might forgive you\ud83e\udd72\ud83e\udd70","human_ref_B":"Is his tail moving normally? Does he seem painful?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14397.0,"score_ratio":1.0212765957}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw6rv25","c_root_id_B":"iw6nsjt","created_at_utc_A":1668339526,"created_at_utc_B":1668336225,"score_A":97,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think you're a top notch owner, I would have also shaved the area if it was interfering with a healing infection, etc.","human_ref_B":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3301.0,"score_ratio":32.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw7b20r","c_root_id_B":"iw7tp6d","created_at_utc_A":1668351074,"created_at_utc_B":1668359047,"score_A":17,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Is that another festering gaping wound on her neck or is it an illusion? Has it also been like that for three years?","human_ref_B":"I know these chronic problems can be very frustrating when you're working with limited veterinary capabilities. I agree with others that this most likely isn't because she was shaved, but due to an underlying condition. Shaving may have sped up the process, and it's true shaving certain coats types can damage the coat and cause problems with regrowth, but not like this so try not to be too hard on yourself.   There's a variety of problems that cause alopecia and hyperpigmentation like this. Talking with your veterinarian about a thorough endocrine workup, thyroid and adrenal in particular. I saw she's had her thyroid tested before, but I'd ask about repeating if it's been over a year just to make sure. There's also allergy testing and food trials to rule out allergies, and finally skin biopsies. I assume you only really have access to general practice veterinarians, but if there are dermatology specialists available I'd definitely recommend that. Also, I'm not sure if your area has a vet school, but if so you may want to contact them and see if they operate a learning clinic because they'll have access to more testing options as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7973.0,"score_ratio":2.8235294118}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw7tp6d","c_root_id_B":"iw7p6dg","created_at_utc_A":1668359047,"created_at_utc_B":1668357208,"score_A":48,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I know these chronic problems can be very frustrating when you're working with limited veterinary capabilities. I agree with others that this most likely isn't because she was shaved, but due to an underlying condition. Shaving may have sped up the process, and it's true shaving certain coats types can damage the coat and cause problems with regrowth, but not like this so try not to be too hard on yourself.   There's a variety of problems that cause alopecia and hyperpigmentation like this. Talking with your veterinarian about a thorough endocrine workup, thyroid and adrenal in particular. I saw she's had her thyroid tested before, but I'd ask about repeating if it's been over a year just to make sure. There's also allergy testing and food trials to rule out allergies, and finally skin biopsies. I assume you only really have access to general practice veterinarians, but if there are dermatology specialists available I'd definitely recommend that. Also, I'm not sure if your area has a vet school, but if so you may want to contact them and see if they operate a learning clinic because they'll have access to more testing options as well.","human_ref_B":"Is she in any pain, itchy, off food, crying, diarrhea?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1839.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw7tp6d","c_root_id_B":"iw6nsjt","created_at_utc_A":1668359047,"created_at_utc_B":1668336225,"score_A":48,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I know these chronic problems can be very frustrating when you're working with limited veterinary capabilities. I agree with others that this most likely isn't because she was shaved, but due to an underlying condition. Shaving may have sped up the process, and it's true shaving certain coats types can damage the coat and cause problems with regrowth, but not like this so try not to be too hard on yourself.   There's a variety of problems that cause alopecia and hyperpigmentation like this. Talking with your veterinarian about a thorough endocrine workup, thyroid and adrenal in particular. I saw she's had her thyroid tested before, but I'd ask about repeating if it's been over a year just to make sure. There's also allergy testing and food trials to rule out allergies, and finally skin biopsies. I assume you only really have access to general practice veterinarians, but if there are dermatology specialists available I'd definitely recommend that. Also, I'm not sure if your area has a vet school, but if so you may want to contact them and see if they operate a learning clinic because they'll have access to more testing options as well.","human_ref_B":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22822.0,"score_ratio":16.0}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw7b20r","c_root_id_B":"iw6nsjt","created_at_utc_A":1668351074,"created_at_utc_B":1668336225,"score_A":17,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is that another festering gaping wound on her neck or is it an illusion? Has it also been like that for three years?","human_ref_B":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14849.0,"score_ratio":5.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw830u0","c_root_id_B":"iw83z79","created_at_utc_A":1668362800,"created_at_utc_B":1668363173,"score_A":10,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Make sure to use some doggy sunscreen when exposed to outdoors if you have it available where you live.","human_ref_B":"I would see if you can get one of the vets in your area to work with a specialist in another country, see if they are willing to do virtual visits with your vet present, they may be able to help you out at a distance and with the cooperation of your local vet. Maybe even see if a university veterinary practice would be willing to do this, they often have multiple specialists and testing capabilities so your vet could send samples if they need them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":373.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw83z79","c_root_id_B":"iw7p6dg","created_at_utc_A":1668363173,"created_at_utc_B":1668357208,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I would see if you can get one of the vets in your area to work with a specialist in another country, see if they are willing to do virtual visits with your vet present, they may be able to help you out at a distance and with the cooperation of your local vet. Maybe even see if a university veterinary practice would be willing to do this, they often have multiple specialists and testing capabilities so your vet could send samples if they need them.","human_ref_B":"Is she in any pain, itchy, off food, crying, diarrhea?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5965.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw83z79","c_root_id_B":"iw6nsjt","created_at_utc_A":1668363173,"created_at_utc_B":1668336225,"score_A":12,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I would see if you can get one of the vets in your area to work with a specialist in another country, see if they are willing to do virtual visits with your vet present, they may be able to help you out at a distance and with the cooperation of your local vet. Maybe even see if a university veterinary practice would be willing to do this, they often have multiple specialists and testing capabilities so your vet could send samples if they need them.","human_ref_B":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26948.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw7p6dg","c_root_id_B":"iw830u0","created_at_utc_A":1668357208,"created_at_utc_B":1668362800,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Is she in any pain, itchy, off food, crying, diarrhea?","human_ref_B":"Make sure to use some doggy sunscreen when exposed to outdoors if you have it available where you live.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5592.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw6nsjt","c_root_id_B":"iw830u0","created_at_utc_A":1668336225,"created_at_utc_B":1668362800,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","human_ref_B":"Make sure to use some doggy sunscreen when exposed to outdoors if you have it available where you live.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26575.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ytq7sj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My corgi\u2019s hair doesn\u2019t grow back after shaving Hi,  Please no judgement here.   I am in desperate help for my corgi.   We have shaved her 3 years ago and her hair hasn\u2019t grown back anymore. Her skin eventually turned black.   It was after shaving her I have realized we are not supposed to. Please no judgement here.  She had really bad skin infections in many areas on her body and her hair was sticking to her wounds. So I thought shaving her would help her\u2026  Does anyone know what she has And what this condition is called.  I need your help for advice.   I am a very small island called tahiti and I have taken her to many different clinics and failing to solve my dog\u2019s skin issue. Our veterinarian source and knowledge is very limited.   Thank you so much for reading me.  I tried to keep the message short and straightforward.   Ps: Sorry my English is not very good  I tried adding her picture on IG for you to see her current condition :   https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Ck4qCDTLSYb\/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=","c_root_id_A":"iw6nsjt","c_root_id_B":"iw7p6dg","created_at_utc_A":1668336225,"created_at_utc_B":1668357208,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"You can try to ask to send skin biopsy samples to some laboratory, they can give quite clear answers of what it might be.","human_ref_B":"Is she in any pain, itchy, off food, crying, diarrhea?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20983.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"x1dmrb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"missing kitten returned after 3 months but very aggressive now Hi everyone. My kitten went missing 3 months ago. He was 9 months old. To cut a long story short this crazy old woman was feeding him and he kept returning to her house and eventually stopped coming here. She decided to tell me after knowing I was looking for him 4 months because she is now moving house. She insists he didn't sleep inside but only came to eat and left. She had named him Ali apparently because he was King of the Ring and fighting the other cats in the area.   He was never really aggressive before, up until about a week before he left and didn't come back. On the last day he sat in front of the house for about 9 hours and growled at me if I tried to move him. He was really uptight as if he was guarding my house.   I have another cat and they don't like each other but they mostly stay away from each other. That being said, she gave birth about 12 weeks ago, about 4 weeks before he left and I saw them fighting in the street just before this before I broke it up and brought her inside. I'm assuming she was territorial.   But he's here now and he's dying to go outside but I don't think I should let him out because he's clearly formed a bond with the lady and I don't want to make it worse.   He's only been back a day but he's aggressive with the other cats, including the little kittens and he's been aggressive with me. That being said, there are clearly things he remembers about me. For example, if I make a certain sound with my lips he kisses me, something we used to do before he left. In fact, we were really close before he left. This is a cat who would accompany me on a 30 minute walk in the daytime. He was always on my heels. Now he won't even come near me and he's clawing at the doors and windows.  For more context, he got the snip 2 weeks before he left too and he was pretty annoyed with me around that point too. He repeatedly looked at his balls and me and to make it worse when I went to collect him from this ladies house he was frantic. Later on he acted this way again when I was carrying the carrier around the house (to put it back in the cupboard) he growled at me.   Pls help, what can I do to help him settle again? Should I just let him go outside if he would prefer to be out there? How should I respond to the aggressive behaviours?","c_root_id_A":"imfkh7w","c_root_id_B":"imfqsdo","created_at_utc_A":1661890642,"created_at_utc_B":1661893038,"score_A":10,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"So his behaviour may be down to a medical issue. You may not be able to see the illness from the surface but aggression can be a sign of pain so maybe nothing you try will help. But fingers crossed that gets ruled out tomorrow. For the next day keep him in a room away from others. Feliway plug in. Maybe some catnip toys if he likes catnip. Treats etc..if the vet finds nothing wrong you need to find a behaviouralist really to help you if after a week or so he\u2019s not showing signs of improving. Fingers crossed for you!","human_ref_B":"That's what you get for having an outdoor cat \ud83e\udd37","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2396.0,"score_ratio":2.7}
{"post_id":"x1dmrb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"missing kitten returned after 3 months but very aggressive now Hi everyone. My kitten went missing 3 months ago. He was 9 months old. To cut a long story short this crazy old woman was feeding him and he kept returning to her house and eventually stopped coming here. She decided to tell me after knowing I was looking for him 4 months because she is now moving house. She insists he didn't sleep inside but only came to eat and left. She had named him Ali apparently because he was King of the Ring and fighting the other cats in the area.   He was never really aggressive before, up until about a week before he left and didn't come back. On the last day he sat in front of the house for about 9 hours and growled at me if I tried to move him. He was really uptight as if he was guarding my house.   I have another cat and they don't like each other but they mostly stay away from each other. That being said, she gave birth about 12 weeks ago, about 4 weeks before he left and I saw them fighting in the street just before this before I broke it up and brought her inside. I'm assuming she was territorial.   But he's here now and he's dying to go outside but I don't think I should let him out because he's clearly formed a bond with the lady and I don't want to make it worse.   He's only been back a day but he's aggressive with the other cats, including the little kittens and he's been aggressive with me. That being said, there are clearly things he remembers about me. For example, if I make a certain sound with my lips he kisses me, something we used to do before he left. In fact, we were really close before he left. This is a cat who would accompany me on a 30 minute walk in the daytime. He was always on my heels. Now he won't even come near me and he's clawing at the doors and windows.  For more context, he got the snip 2 weeks before he left too and he was pretty annoyed with me around that point too. He repeatedly looked at his balls and me and to make it worse when I went to collect him from this ladies house he was frantic. Later on he acted this way again when I was carrying the carrier around the house (to put it back in the cupboard) he growled at me.   Pls help, what can I do to help him settle again? Should I just let him go outside if he would prefer to be out there? How should I respond to the aggressive behaviours?","c_root_id_A":"imfqsdo","c_root_id_B":"imfn0dt","created_at_utc_A":1661893038,"created_at_utc_B":1661891606,"score_A":27,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"That's what you get for having an outdoor cat \ud83e\udd37","human_ref_B":"You probably know this already but cat psychologists (behaviourists) do exist. They can come to your house, observe your cats interacting, and make suggestions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1432.0,"score_ratio":3.8571428571}
{"post_id":"x1dmrb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"missing kitten returned after 3 months but very aggressive now Hi everyone. My kitten went missing 3 months ago. He was 9 months old. To cut a long story short this crazy old woman was feeding him and he kept returning to her house and eventually stopped coming here. She decided to tell me after knowing I was looking for him 4 months because she is now moving house. She insists he didn't sleep inside but only came to eat and left. She had named him Ali apparently because he was King of the Ring and fighting the other cats in the area.   He was never really aggressive before, up until about a week before he left and didn't come back. On the last day he sat in front of the house for about 9 hours and growled at me if I tried to move him. He was really uptight as if he was guarding my house.   I have another cat and they don't like each other but they mostly stay away from each other. That being said, she gave birth about 12 weeks ago, about 4 weeks before he left and I saw them fighting in the street just before this before I broke it up and brought her inside. I'm assuming she was territorial.   But he's here now and he's dying to go outside but I don't think I should let him out because he's clearly formed a bond with the lady and I don't want to make it worse.   He's only been back a day but he's aggressive with the other cats, including the little kittens and he's been aggressive with me. That being said, there are clearly things he remembers about me. For example, if I make a certain sound with my lips he kisses me, something we used to do before he left. In fact, we were really close before he left. This is a cat who would accompany me on a 30 minute walk in the daytime. He was always on my heels. Now he won't even come near me and he's clawing at the doors and windows.  For more context, he got the snip 2 weeks before he left too and he was pretty annoyed with me around that point too. He repeatedly looked at his balls and me and to make it worse when I went to collect him from this ladies house he was frantic. Later on he acted this way again when I was carrying the carrier around the house (to put it back in the cupboard) he growled at me.   Pls help, what can I do to help him settle again? Should I just let him go outside if he would prefer to be out there? How should I respond to the aggressive behaviours?","c_root_id_A":"imh26js","c_root_id_B":"imh3uz5","created_at_utc_A":1661913743,"created_at_utc_B":1661914566,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"The best thing is to give him his own space away from humans and other animals. He\u2019s stressed and aggravated, let him have time and space to himself until your vet appointment, then follow their suggestions. Also\u2014consider keeping your cats indoors unless you have them on a leash and harness. It\u2019s safer for them and the environment, and you won\u2019t have to worry about any of them disappearing like this again.","human_ref_B":"What was the point of posting if your not going to take anyone's advice.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":823.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hozhyw6","c_root_id_B":"hoziw1y","created_at_utc_A":1639784838,"created_at_utc_B":1639785255,"score_A":20,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"Purina is fine. Are your animals doing ok on it in your opinion?","human_ref_B":"This^^^ is what I came here to say! @stbargabar thank you!   Both Science diet and Purina are forerunners in the veterinary nutrition sciences alongside Royal Canin. The bottom line is a win\/win that you're feeding a diet that balances science based nutrition with palatability.  After all, all of the nutrition in the world won't do you much good if your pet leaves most of it in the bowl.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":417.0,"score_ratio":3.55}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hozhyw6","c_root_id_B":"hp00lwx","created_at_utc_A":1639784838,"created_at_utc_B":1639793444,"score_A":20,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Purina is fine. Are your animals doing ok on it in your opinion?","human_ref_B":"It never hurts to add additional water to your pets\u2019 diet for extra moisture. Best of all it\u2019s free!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8606.0,"score_ratio":2.9}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hoztwme","c_root_id_B":"hp00lwx","created_at_utc_A":1639790293,"created_at_utc_B":1639793444,"score_A":9,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin is a great brand of cat and dog food. They do a ton of research to back up their food to prove its a healthy, balanced diet. Science diet is also great. If you want to do Purina, Purina pro plan us going to be the best option versus like purine one or Purina dog\/cat chow. Many people\/companies will say these are bad brands but that's because the pet stores ARE Paid to promote certain brands. But when deciding on a food make sure it has grain in it due to increased risk of dilated cardiomyelopathy in both dogs and cats. Also avoid raw or boutique diets.","human_ref_B":"It never hurts to add additional water to your pets\u2019 diet for extra moisture. Best of all it\u2019s free!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3151.0,"score_ratio":6.4444444444}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hp0hnh2","c_root_id_B":"hozhyw6","created_at_utc_A":1639802473,"created_at_utc_B":1639784838,"score_A":43,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I work at a vet clinic, & all of my doctors say that Royal Canin, Hills Science Diet, & Purina (specifically Purina ProPlan) are the best diets to put your pupper on :)","human_ref_B":"Purina is fine. Are your animals doing ok on it in your opinion?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17635.0,"score_ratio":2.15}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hoztwme","c_root_id_B":"hp0hnh2","created_at_utc_A":1639790293,"created_at_utc_B":1639802473,"score_A":9,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin is a great brand of cat and dog food. They do a ton of research to back up their food to prove its a healthy, balanced diet. Science diet is also great. If you want to do Purina, Purina pro plan us going to be the best option versus like purine one or Purina dog\/cat chow. Many people\/companies will say these are bad brands but that's because the pet stores ARE Paid to promote certain brands. But when deciding on a food make sure it has grain in it due to increased risk of dilated cardiomyelopathy in both dogs and cats. Also avoid raw or boutique diets.","human_ref_B":"I work at a vet clinic, & all of my doctors say that Royal Canin, Hills Science Diet, & Purina (specifically Purina ProPlan) are the best diets to put your pupper on :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12180.0,"score_ratio":4.7777777778}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hp1izlj","c_root_id_B":"hozhyw6","created_at_utc_A":1639831190,"created_at_utc_B":1639784838,"score_A":23,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Purina, Royal Canin, and Hills are the only commercial diets that are formulated by board certified veterinary nutritionists. The fancy novel diets that soo many people flock to are led to believe they are better purely because of marketing. These companies create the idea that dogs should be fed novel proteins, exotic fruits and grains and vegetables, etc, bc that\u2019s what \u201chealthy humans eat\u201d. If the ingredients on the bag just list food items, such as \u201cblueberry and kale\u201d, they usually use *microscopic* amounts of those that surmount to no nutritional value - but it\u2019s in there, so it\u2019s an \u201cingredient\u201d! If anything, those companies are the scam. A big argument is that when a bag has chicken byproducts in it, that\u2019s a bad thing. What that really means is the thighs, breast, and other human-consumed *less* nutritional parts are used, and then they will use the rest of the chicken for dog food. The ORGANS are the parts of the chicken that have the most protein and nutrients, but people don\u2019t like to eat them. So really, chicken biproducts (and alike) are a really good thing to have in a diet due to their nutritional value.   Your best bet is to talk to your veterinarian what the best diet for your pets is. I wouldn\u2019t say the fancy expensive brands are bad per se, but they\u2019re overpriced and Purina definitely isn\u2019t bad.","human_ref_B":"Purina is fine. Are your animals doing ok on it in your opinion?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":46352.0,"score_ratio":1.15}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hp1izlj","c_root_id_B":"hoztwme","created_at_utc_A":1639831190,"created_at_utc_B":1639790293,"score_A":23,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Purina, Royal Canin, and Hills are the only commercial diets that are formulated by board certified veterinary nutritionists. The fancy novel diets that soo many people flock to are led to believe they are better purely because of marketing. These companies create the idea that dogs should be fed novel proteins, exotic fruits and grains and vegetables, etc, bc that\u2019s what \u201chealthy humans eat\u201d. If the ingredients on the bag just list food items, such as \u201cblueberry and kale\u201d, they usually use *microscopic* amounts of those that surmount to no nutritional value - but it\u2019s in there, so it\u2019s an \u201cingredient\u201d! If anything, those companies are the scam. A big argument is that when a bag has chicken byproducts in it, that\u2019s a bad thing. What that really means is the thighs, breast, and other human-consumed *less* nutritional parts are used, and then they will use the rest of the chicken for dog food. The ORGANS are the parts of the chicken that have the most protein and nutrients, but people don\u2019t like to eat them. So really, chicken biproducts (and alike) are a really good thing to have in a diet due to their nutritional value.   Your best bet is to talk to your veterinarian what the best diet for your pets is. I wouldn\u2019t say the fancy expensive brands are bad per se, but they\u2019re overpriced and Purina definitely isn\u2019t bad.","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin is a great brand of cat and dog food. They do a ton of research to back up their food to prove its a healthy, balanced diet. Science diet is also great. If you want to do Purina, Purina pro plan us going to be the best option versus like purine one or Purina dog\/cat chow. Many people\/companies will say these are bad brands but that's because the pet stores ARE Paid to promote certain brands. But when deciding on a food make sure it has grain in it due to increased risk of dilated cardiomyelopathy in both dogs and cats. Also avoid raw or boutique diets.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":40897.0,"score_ratio":2.5555555556}
{"post_id":"rirhz6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet Food My daughter is freaking out that we are giving our pets crappy food.  We currently feed them Purina One. We have tried science diet sensitive stomach too. We have 5 cats of various breeds and a mostly Labrador.   She has been on a pet food website that rates all the types of food. She saw science diet is a 'scam'. Our corgi who passed away from kidney disease was fed science diet kidney formula and the website says it makes kidney disease worse because of the nutrient balance.   All of the food she finds that she would be happy with are so freaking expensive. Maybe if we had one pet we could manage it, but not with 6.   She is thinking of making her own pet food, but I think that is going to be way too much work for her.   We as a family don't eat the perfect diet or all of the best meats and vegetables. Partly because of what we spend on vet bills having 6 pets, of course. And we just can't afford to spend $400-$500 a month on pet food.   I also don't want to use so much plastic or cans that we have to rinse and smell the gross smell of wet food to recycle.   Is there any advice anyone can give us for a reasonable way to feed our pets? Some sort of middle ground between food made of cardboard and food made of diamonds?","c_root_id_A":"hp1cmb3","c_root_id_B":"hp1izlj","created_at_utc_A":1639826202,"created_at_utc_B":1639831190,"score_A":7,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Can you show us some examples of the expensive food your daughter found?  Where are you located?","human_ref_B":"Purina, Royal Canin, and Hills are the only commercial diets that are formulated by board certified veterinary nutritionists. The fancy novel diets that soo many people flock to are led to believe they are better purely because of marketing. These companies create the idea that dogs should be fed novel proteins, exotic fruits and grains and vegetables, etc, bc that\u2019s what \u201chealthy humans eat\u201d. If the ingredients on the bag just list food items, such as \u201cblueberry and kale\u201d, they usually use *microscopic* amounts of those that surmount to no nutritional value - but it\u2019s in there, so it\u2019s an \u201cingredient\u201d! If anything, those companies are the scam. A big argument is that when a bag has chicken byproducts in it, that\u2019s a bad thing. What that really means is the thighs, breast, and other human-consumed *less* nutritional parts are used, and then they will use the rest of the chicken for dog food. The ORGANS are the parts of the chicken that have the most protein and nutrients, but people don\u2019t like to eat them. So really, chicken biproducts (and alike) are a really good thing to have in a diet due to their nutritional value.   Your best bet is to talk to your veterinarian what the best diet for your pets is. I wouldn\u2019t say the fancy expensive brands are bad per se, but they\u2019re overpriced and Purina definitely isn\u2019t bad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4988.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"oqocip","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat's eye after tooth removal Cat's eyes https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/QerE3fR  My 8 year old domestic American shorthair had both eyes clear and functioning before her teeth being removed.  Now her left eye is clouded, it's been 2 days since the full extraction of all her teeth (she had tooth resorption\/disease).   She doesn't appear to be in any pain, no squinting, she cuddle rolls and nuzzles normally.  She's back to a hearty eater (soft food) since last night, also has been using the litterbox normally.  Just waiting on the clinic to open today, what should I expect?","c_root_id_A":"h6e02no","c_root_id_B":"h6dt34y","created_at_utc_A":1627149807,"created_at_utc_B":1627146419,"score_A":45,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Can\u2019t speculate about what it would be but definitely needs to be addressed. Hopefully you were able to get her in today, otherwise I would suggest an ER visit! Eyes aren\u2019t something to mess around with","human_ref_B":"Have you asked the vet that performed the extractions? You could also always bring kitty to another vet for a 2nd opinion.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3388.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ocoaa6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"I requested a sedative for the 4th of July and my vet gave Trazodone. My dog gets scared of the sound of fireworks. Past years I tried calming treats from pet stores which didn't really work. This year I wanted something stronger so I went to a vet and asked for a sedative. They prescribed trazodone which, if I understand correctly, is an antidepressant or anti anxiety medicine. They didn't really explain anything so I feel a little cheated. Did they give trazodone because it is safer than sedatives? Will this work? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"h3vksym","c_root_id_B":"h3vl5gw","created_at_utc_A":1625276922,"created_at_utc_B":1625277121,"score_A":67,"score_B":188,"human_ref_A":"Trazadone is absolutely stronger than the \"calming\" treats you've tried. It is an anti-anxiety medication when used with a dog's (as well as people) and is quite effective. I've used it in my own dogs who had anxiety around car rides to excellent effect. If given 30-60min prior to the fireworks it will, generally, keep the dog calm as they occur and help them settle to sleep for the night.  I'm not entirely sure what you were looking for in a \"sedative\"?","human_ref_B":"Trazodone is frequently prescribed as an atypical antidepressant, but it has a strong anticholinergic effect, especially at low doses. Translation: it operates very much as a sedative, and if you were in the hospital, it would be frequently given to help you sleep.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":199.0,"score_ratio":2.8059701493}
{"post_id":"wg63rb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Vet performed unauthorized procedure, asking me to pay the bill Hey everyone. I\u2019m looking for advice.   Yesterday, my horse was seen by my vet as he was due for semi-annual vaccines and a health certificate for an upcoming move. I have texts directly between myself and my vet discussing ONLY these items being completed during the visit.   There were a bunch of horses at the barn being seen for vaccines and half for dental and long story story short there was a mix up of information and my barn manager told the vet that my horse \u201cneeded everything\u201d and the vet completed full sedation and dental on my horse despite him not being due for another 5 months.   I know vets don\u2019t make that much and I feel bad about the mix up and she has been a great vet for the past several years, but now they are both trying to hold me responsible for the bill of the procedure (several hundred dollars). They\u2019re saying that because they found a hook on one of his teeth he \u201cneeded it anyways\u201d and therefore I need to pay, even though I never authorized the procedure. He was showing no signs of discomfort in his mouth, was eating fine, and has not been dropping weight so the hook definitely could have waited until he was due again.   I am moving out of state by the end of the month so I will be switching vets anyways. I have emergency funds but to me this is not an emergency and we just burned through our savings for this move.  I feel as if I shouldn\u2019t have to pay since I didn\u2019t even know it was being done on my horse until after the fact.   How should I go about this? What would you as a vet do if you accidentally completed a procedure that the client did not authorize or need? Would you still charge the client? Am I in the wrong if I tell them they need to eat the cost themselves?   Thank you so much","c_root_id_A":"iiz91m2","c_root_id_B":"iiydkf2","created_at_utc_A":1659652717,"created_at_utc_B":1659640349,"score_A":70,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d be discussing this with the barn manager, honestly, as the point of contact as mentioned in other comments.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but a horse owner, it is frustrating, but I'd honestly just pay it and then you've reset the calendar for his next teeth appt. anyways. Take it up with the barn manager, but I'm not sure how far you'll get with them. The vet did the job though, someone has to pay them for that, it's not your vets fault that your barn manager gave them bad info.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12368.0,"score_ratio":1.2280701754}
{"post_id":"wg63rb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Vet performed unauthorized procedure, asking me to pay the bill Hey everyone. I\u2019m looking for advice.   Yesterday, my horse was seen by my vet as he was due for semi-annual vaccines and a health certificate for an upcoming move. I have texts directly between myself and my vet discussing ONLY these items being completed during the visit.   There were a bunch of horses at the barn being seen for vaccines and half for dental and long story story short there was a mix up of information and my barn manager told the vet that my horse \u201cneeded everything\u201d and the vet completed full sedation and dental on my horse despite him not being due for another 5 months.   I know vets don\u2019t make that much and I feel bad about the mix up and she has been a great vet for the past several years, but now they are both trying to hold me responsible for the bill of the procedure (several hundred dollars). They\u2019re saying that because they found a hook on one of his teeth he \u201cneeded it anyways\u201d and therefore I need to pay, even though I never authorized the procedure. He was showing no signs of discomfort in his mouth, was eating fine, and has not been dropping weight so the hook definitely could have waited until he was due again.   I am moving out of state by the end of the month so I will be switching vets anyways. I have emergency funds but to me this is not an emergency and we just burned through our savings for this move.  I feel as if I shouldn\u2019t have to pay since I didn\u2019t even know it was being done on my horse until after the fact.   How should I go about this? What would you as a vet do if you accidentally completed a procedure that the client did not authorize or need? Would you still charge the client? Am I in the wrong if I tell them they need to eat the cost themselves?   Thank you so much","c_root_id_A":"ij18xyt","c_root_id_B":"ij155zh","created_at_utc_A":1659693342,"created_at_utc_B":1659690296,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hey, I have four horses and honestly I'd pay your vet. Your horse is healthy, and with healthy teeth - meaning your vet did a good job.","human_ref_B":"Horse owner. I\u2019d just pay it. You don\u2019t always know they\u2019re uncomfortable because they\u2019re stoic bastards (prey animals like horses hide things to avoid appearing weak).  It could be a while before you find a vet you like and trust with your horses after you move so make the most of the reset.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3046.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"oopkly","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 6 year old dog passed away, i wish i knew why.. My 6 year old pit-lab mix died yesterday.. she had been sick for the past 6 or 7 months. She first presented with bloody diarrhea, lethargy and vomiting. We took her to the vet multiple times and had many tests performed. They were all inconclusive.  She lost over 20lbs in the first month. The severity of her symptoms gradually got lower over the following months; however, each week was a rollercoaster. She\u2019d seem like she was on the road to recovery, eating and getting stronger for a few days. Then she\u2019d become lethargic, lose her appetite, throw up and have diarrhea. Each week it was the same cycle: she\u2019d get better, then worse, better, then worse. We did everything we could to help her get through this.   Unfortunately, yesterday, i guess her heart just couldn\u2019t do it anymore. She was fine in the morning but gradually became very weak and she passed away. My mother was by her side comforting her until her last breath. My mom said she didn\u2019t make a sound, no pain or trouble breathing. She passed away peacefully.  We still don\u2019t know what was wrong with her. At first i thought maybe cancer, maybe liver, or kidney disease. She went from being a very healthy young dog, to looking like a malnourished homeless dog with her spine and ribs showing in a matter of weeks. Whatever it was, it took only half a year to take her life. She passed away too young.   I\u2019ve done a lot of research on what it could have been and saw that she had the same symptoms as parvo. I just don\u2019t know how likely it would be for a healthy, vaccinated, adult dog to get it.   Just looking for some opinions on what it could have been. Especially since i took her to the vet many times, got her tested and they were all inconclusive.. anything helps. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"h60a2tb","c_root_id_B":"h603tzp","created_at_utc_A":1626878231,"created_at_utc_B":1626875392,"score_A":24,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"As has been said, the only way to find out is to have your vet conduct a necropsy. This would be particularly important if you have other pets so that you can rule out anything that could potentially also affect them.  You may also want to have a look at \/r\/petloss if you are so inclined.","human_ref_B":"Im so sorry for your loss. If you still have access to the body, I talk to you vet about submitting it for a necropsy. There is no other way to get any sort of answers on why the dog passed away. Everything else here would be speculation and would do no help.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2839.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mouxge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We cannot get rid of these fleas. It's been five months. Species: Cat  Age: 2yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, un-spayed  Breed: American shorthair  Body weight: About 4.5lbs  History: Has been to a vet who perscribed us flea meds- didn't work. Vet is at a loss. We've used pretty much every topical product on the market. We've given him flea baths with thorough comb-throughs once a week with flea shampoo and he takes Capstar every other day. We've called several other vets in the area to see if we can somehow get them professionally removed and nobody will do it. We have kept him quarantined in one room of the house and regularly hotwash the linens in that room. We have had our home professionally fumigated and have used flea bombs with no luck. We are at a complete and total loss and have no idea what to do. The only advice we've been given from vets and from cat-owing friends is to use topicals and Capstar but they don't seem to be working. Is there some kind of special strain of fleas that are immune to this stuff?  Clinical signs: We haven't seen the fleas reduce in quantity at all. Maybe a little bit at first, but we usually have to comb 20-30 fleas off of him during any given bath.  Duration: About five months  Location: Southeastern USA","c_root_id_A":"gu61bsg","c_root_id_B":"gu6b15j","created_at_utc_A":1618163543,"created_at_utc_B":1618168351,"score_A":60,"score_B":176,"human_ref_A":"What preventatives have you used? I wouldn't quarantine the cat. You want the animal to walk around to pick up the fleas that have hatched and then have a preventative that will kill them on the animal. You may need to use a systemic flea preventative if your bathing the animals regularly.","human_ref_B":"As a DVM, it's not about the cat at this point, it's about the environment. Your home is simply infested and calling out a professional exterminator while maintaining the prevention your cat has been prescribed is the best way to get rid of them. It may take a few treatments from a professional company.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4808.0,"score_ratio":2.9333333333}
{"post_id":"mouxge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We cannot get rid of these fleas. It's been five months. Species: Cat  Age: 2yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, un-spayed  Breed: American shorthair  Body weight: About 4.5lbs  History: Has been to a vet who perscribed us flea meds- didn't work. Vet is at a loss. We've used pretty much every topical product on the market. We've given him flea baths with thorough comb-throughs once a week with flea shampoo and he takes Capstar every other day. We've called several other vets in the area to see if we can somehow get them professionally removed and nobody will do it. We have kept him quarantined in one room of the house and regularly hotwash the linens in that room. We have had our home professionally fumigated and have used flea bombs with no luck. We are at a complete and total loss and have no idea what to do. The only advice we've been given from vets and from cat-owing friends is to use topicals and Capstar but they don't seem to be working. Is there some kind of special strain of fleas that are immune to this stuff?  Clinical signs: We haven't seen the fleas reduce in quantity at all. Maybe a little bit at first, but we usually have to comb 20-30 fleas off of him during any given bath.  Duration: About five months  Location: Southeastern USA","c_root_id_A":"gu6b15j","c_root_id_B":"gu63al7","created_at_utc_A":1618168351,"created_at_utc_B":1618164507,"score_A":176,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"As a DVM, it's not about the cat at this point, it's about the environment. Your home is simply infested and calling out a professional exterminator while maintaining the prevention your cat has been prescribed is the best way to get rid of them. It may take a few treatments from a professional company.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I worked for pest control for 6 months. Did you have them come back again? Most flea treatments need 2-3 visits for the fleas to be eradicated. If you live in apartment or duplex close to others, their home may be infested which is causing the infestation to come back to your house. Flea bombs DO NOT WORK. Most of them are made of a \u201crepellant\u201d which means that they will move to an area of the house that was not treated. If you have carpets or holes in the walls they could also be living underneath and in the walls.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3844.0,"score_ratio":3.9111111111}
{"post_id":"mouxge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We cannot get rid of these fleas. It's been five months. Species: Cat  Age: 2yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, un-spayed  Breed: American shorthair  Body weight: About 4.5lbs  History: Has been to a vet who perscribed us flea meds- didn't work. Vet is at a loss. We've used pretty much every topical product on the market. We've given him flea baths with thorough comb-throughs once a week with flea shampoo and he takes Capstar every other day. We've called several other vets in the area to see if we can somehow get them professionally removed and nobody will do it. We have kept him quarantined in one room of the house and regularly hotwash the linens in that room. We have had our home professionally fumigated and have used flea bombs with no luck. We are at a complete and total loss and have no idea what to do. The only advice we've been given from vets and from cat-owing friends is to use topicals and Capstar but they don't seem to be working. Is there some kind of special strain of fleas that are immune to this stuff?  Clinical signs: We haven't seen the fleas reduce in quantity at all. Maybe a little bit at first, but we usually have to comb 20-30 fleas off of him during any given bath.  Duration: About five months  Location: Southeastern USA","c_root_id_A":"gu65n74","c_root_id_B":"gu6b15j","created_at_utc_A":1618165673,"created_at_utc_B":1618168351,"score_A":9,"score_B":176,"human_ref_A":"What flea preventatives are you using? Any other pets? Have you treated the yard?","human_ref_B":"As a DVM, it's not about the cat at this point, it's about the environment. Your home is simply infested and calling out a professional exterminator while maintaining the prevention your cat has been prescribed is the best way to get rid of them. It may take a few treatments from a professional company.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2678.0,"score_ratio":19.5555555556}
{"post_id":"mouxge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We cannot get rid of these fleas. It's been five months. Species: Cat  Age: 2yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, un-spayed  Breed: American shorthair  Body weight: About 4.5lbs  History: Has been to a vet who perscribed us flea meds- didn't work. Vet is at a loss. We've used pretty much every topical product on the market. We've given him flea baths with thorough comb-throughs once a week with flea shampoo and he takes Capstar every other day. We've called several other vets in the area to see if we can somehow get them professionally removed and nobody will do it. We have kept him quarantined in one room of the house and regularly hotwash the linens in that room. We have had our home professionally fumigated and have used flea bombs with no luck. We are at a complete and total loss and have no idea what to do. The only advice we've been given from vets and from cat-owing friends is to use topicals and Capstar but they don't seem to be working. Is there some kind of special strain of fleas that are immune to this stuff?  Clinical signs: We haven't seen the fleas reduce in quantity at all. Maybe a little bit at first, but we usually have to comb 20-30 fleas off of him during any given bath.  Duration: About five months  Location: Southeastern USA","c_root_id_A":"gu65n74","c_root_id_B":"gu6l3pk","created_at_utc_A":1618165673,"created_at_utc_B":1618173417,"score_A":9,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"What flea preventatives are you using? Any other pets? Have you treated the yard?","human_ref_B":"Flea problems can take months to resolve if the fleas are laying eggs faster than you can kill them. Even if you kill off one wave, another will hatch and you'll be back where you started. As others have said, switch to a prescription brand flea product (Revolution, Advantage Multi, Bravecto) and apply for AT LEAST 3 months in a row (if not indefinitely since you're in Southeast US, we see fleas even in the winter). Bathing the cat may be removing the topical flea preventive so quit that.  Continue washing linen in hot waters and vacuum every day as the heat and vibration will make the eggs hatch faster to go through their lifecycle. Professional bombs are great but repeat visits may be necessary and you might want to consider treating your yard as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7744.0,"score_ratio":3.2222222222}
{"post_id":"mouxge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We cannot get rid of these fleas. It's been five months. Species: Cat  Age: 2yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, un-spayed  Breed: American shorthair  Body weight: About 4.5lbs  History: Has been to a vet who perscribed us flea meds- didn't work. Vet is at a loss. We've used pretty much every topical product on the market. We've given him flea baths with thorough comb-throughs once a week with flea shampoo and he takes Capstar every other day. We've called several other vets in the area to see if we can somehow get them professionally removed and nobody will do it. We have kept him quarantined in one room of the house and regularly hotwash the linens in that room. We have had our home professionally fumigated and have used flea bombs with no luck. We are at a complete and total loss and have no idea what to do. The only advice we've been given from vets and from cat-owing friends is to use topicals and Capstar but they don't seem to be working. Is there some kind of special strain of fleas that are immune to this stuff?  Clinical signs: We haven't seen the fleas reduce in quantity at all. Maybe a little bit at first, but we usually have to comb 20-30 fleas off of him during any given bath.  Duration: About five months  Location: Southeastern USA","c_root_id_A":"gu6z5gb","c_root_id_B":"gu65n74","created_at_utc_A":1618180662,"created_at_utc_B":1618165673,"score_A":11,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"As a pest control tech I can give you some advice. Vaccum Everthing then throw the bag away. Then vacuum every day for 2 weeks. Each time your done take the bag out and fold it so it will fit in a Ziploc bag and place it in your freezer. Use it each time you vaccum. If you have a bagless vaccum take the canister off of the vacuum and put it in a Ziploc bag. Also despite you having the animal quarantined in one room, you will spread them throughout the house on your clothes. You will also probably want to treat your yard as well.","human_ref_B":"What flea preventatives are you using? Any other pets? Have you treated the yard?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14989.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gkmwsxp","c_root_id_B":"gkmuche","created_at_utc_A":1611523879,"created_at_utc_B":1611522765,"score_A":72,"score_B":43,"human_ref_A":"When cats don't eat or drink anything for more than a couple of days, it's an emergency. They can deteriorate very quickly, please do not wait.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s probably not the cream but she needs to be seen ASAP call the people who spayed her an explain what\u2019s going on and tell them you have limited funds. They might be willing to work with you if you are honest","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1114.0,"score_ratio":1.6744186047}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gkmwsxp","c_root_id_B":"gkmvijn","created_at_utc_A":1611523879,"created_at_utc_B":1611523318,"score_A":72,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"When cats don't eat or drink anything for more than a couple of days, it's an emergency. They can deteriorate very quickly, please do not wait.","human_ref_B":"To the emergency vet, right now!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":561.0,"score_ratio":2.3225806452}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknqdhk","c_root_id_B":"gkmvijn","created_at_utc_A":1611537779,"created_at_utc_B":1611523318,"score_A":37,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","human_ref_B":"To the emergency vet, right now!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14461.0,"score_ratio":1.1935483871}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknqdhk","c_root_id_B":"gkn51n4","created_at_utc_A":1611537779,"created_at_utc_B":1611527652,"score_A":37,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","human_ref_B":"Go. to. the. vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10127.0,"score_ratio":1.2333333333}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknqdhk","c_root_id_B":"gkn2ppo","created_at_utc_A":1611537779,"created_at_utc_B":1611526590,"score_A":37,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","human_ref_B":"VET. NOW.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11189.0,"score_ratio":1.15625}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gkn4t52","c_root_id_B":"gknqdhk","created_at_utc_A":1611527559,"created_at_utc_B":1611537779,"score_A":26,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"She should have been wearing a cone","human_ref_B":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10220.0,"score_ratio":1.4230769231}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknqdhk","c_root_id_B":"gknhrji","created_at_utc_A":1611537779,"created_at_utc_B":1611533440,"score_A":37,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","human_ref_B":"Become a person who cares about the helpless animals who are 100% dependent on them and go to the vet, or take the risk that your cat may suffer and die a horrible death in your home. That's the harsh reality of the situation, and it's your choice.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4339.0,"score_ratio":1.9473684211}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknq16z","c_root_id_B":"gknqdhk","created_at_utc_A":1611537603,"created_at_utc_B":1611537779,"score_A":8,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Your vet should definitely provide post operative care for UO to five days after any surgery. Call them and tell them what happening. They have a duty of care here as well.","human_ref_B":"Regardless of whether or not you can afford it, you are responsible for the well-being of your pet. You are obligated to seek emergency medical care and either find a way to pay for it, surrender your cat to the hospital, or elect to euthanize due to lack of funds.   Do not allow your cat to suffer at home just because you can\u2019t afford to pay for medical care. That is not acceptable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":176.0,"score_ratio":4.625}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gkn2ppo","c_root_id_B":"gkmvijn","created_at_utc_A":1611526590,"created_at_utc_B":1611523318,"score_A":32,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"VET. NOW.","human_ref_B":"To the emergency vet, right now!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3272.0,"score_ratio":1.0322580645}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gkn4t52","c_root_id_B":"gkn51n4","created_at_utc_A":1611527559,"created_at_utc_B":1611527652,"score_A":26,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"She should have been wearing a cone","human_ref_B":"Go. to. the. vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":93.0,"score_ratio":1.1538461538}
{"post_id":"l42tfv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my cat dying?  A week ago I took my 1 and a half year old cat to the vet so she can be spayed. Everything was fine until two days ago when she started vomiting, today the vomiting got worse as she vomitted 5 times today already.   After she was spayed the vet gave me a cream and told me to apply it on the wound everyday, after applying it my cat always licked herself where I applied it, I tried to stop her a couple of times but she just kept on licking herself.   Could it be that the cream was toxic to her and now she is sick from it? She doesn't eat or drink water, she just lays in her bed and doesn't want to move at all. Right now I can't take her to the vet because of financial problems, what can I do to help her?","c_root_id_A":"gknq16z","c_root_id_B":"gknszot","created_at_utc_A":1611537603,"created_at_utc_B":1611539107,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Your vet should definitely provide post operative care for UO to five days after any surgery. Call them and tell them what happening. They have a duty of care here as well.","human_ref_B":"Does she not have the cone or the comfy inflatable collar to avoid her licking the area?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1504.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"g5dap4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Anal gland abscess about to burst when no vet is available I just noticed my 8 year old cat Demi just got her anal gland infected again. It happened a few times before this. Last time it happened was 8 months ago. I'm in Bangladesh and literally not even a single vet is available. I've checked. I can tell it's about to burst and I'm worried sick. They usually sedate her, drain and clean the area, stitch it back up and put her on antibiotics for a week.   The only thing I can do now is give her the same antibiotic for the infection from her previous prescription. Will that help at all? Is there anything else I can do for her in a situation like this?","c_root_id_A":"fo34hkv","c_root_id_B":"fo375fw","created_at_utc_A":1587480386,"created_at_utc_B":1587481802,"score_A":42,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"There may be telemedicine options available if all else fails. I can\u2019t say much more because my comment was automatically removed. Good luck","human_ref_B":"While vets might not be seeing patients in person, it's likely they will answer their phones. Call the treating vet and discuss how to proceed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1416.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yj7zh9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Accidentally underfed my two indoor cats for months? What should I do now? Species:  cats  Age: about 2 1\/2 years each  Sex\/Neuter status: fixed  Breed: American shorthairs  Body weight: approx 9 lbs and 15 lbs  History: never had issue with their weight before, and they don't have any health issues  I have 2 indoor cats who I feed dry food twice a day (and leave it out until their next mealtime, so they essentially free-feed). My spouse and I started my cats off in separate bowls, but they always end up just eating from the same one, so we mostly feed them in one bowl now, which hasn't caused any issues as far as I can tell. Nobody guards the food or gets defensive\/aggressive about food, but if we should be doing it differently lmk!  Basically since they became adult cats, we give them a heaping 1\/2 cup of dry in the morning and 1\/2 cup in the evening, but this morning we realized we'd been calculating their caloric needs wrong, and if we're calculating it right now, we should be giving them almost double that. Based on what I've read online, and using the chart on their food bag, my smaller cat should be getting  about 3\/4 cup a day, and my bigger cat should be getting about 1 cup per day, but in reality (assuming they split their food 100% evenly) they're only getting about 1\/2 cup each.  The thing is, they eat their food slowly throughout the day, and sometimes even have leftover food by the time it's 9PM. They're also at healthy weights, my smaller cat is a bit chubby, and my bigger cat isn't really \"chubby\" but he's got a tiny bit of pudge on his belly. We take them to the vet regularly, and we've never gotten any feedback about them being underweight (if anything they tell us that we should be careful not to overfeed them). They act perfectly happy and normal, and have no other health issues.  So I'm kinda confused... My cats aren't super food motivated, they do beg a little once it gets close to meal time, but they don't act like they're starving, and their weights seem perfectly fine. Is it possible that their weight isn't lower because we've slowed their metabolism accidentally by underfeeding them for so long? If we start feeding them more, could they start gaining weight? I personally would rather they be chubby and getting the nutrition they need, than be thin and potentially starving, but I also want to make sure that if I need to course-correct by adjusting how much I feed them, that I'm doing it in the safest and best way possible. Any thoughts on this?  Thank you!  tl;dr: My spouse and I realized that instead of feeding our cats the recommended amount of dry food based on their weight (which appears to be about 3\/4 cup a day for my smaller cat, and 1 cup a day for my larger cat based on the info on the side of their food bag, and our research online), we've been giving them almost half that.They have no health issues, and if anything are slightly on the chubbier side, but we're concerned that's because we've accidentally slowed their metabolism. I've started today by giving them the actual recommended amount of food, but I want to get some feedback on whether I have anything to worry about (since they don't act hungry and are at healthy weights), and if so, how should I proceed?","c_root_id_A":"iuorvcp","c_root_id_B":"iunczpv","created_at_utc_A":1667342557,"created_at_utc_B":1667323018,"score_A":47,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Everyone\u2019s pets are different. For the most part though, your cat will tell you if they are hungry. I can have a full bowl, both doors open, and the cat still screams because \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f.","human_ref_B":"The chart on the bags are not accurate, usually the correct amount is about half of that. If you want to calculate the actual amount of calories they should be getting a day the formula is  30 x (weight in kg) + 70 Once you have this it should say on the bag the kcal\/cup and figure it out that way. You can also add or subtract a little bit depending on how active they are.  Hope this helps :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19539.0,"score_ratio":1.2702702703}
{"post_id":"uqytez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My parents might put down our dog tomorrow. Here as a last resort.  10 y\/o Male  Not neutered  German shepherd  80lb Muscular degeneration started with back legs couple years ago and progressing throughout body. Can still walked in wheelchair but now needs front wheel support. No control of bowels anymore.   NYC   My mom won\u2019t stop crying and dreading over this.. she still isn\u2019t sure she\u2019ll be able to do it.  They\u2019ve had Rocky our German shepherd for 10 years now and over the last couple of years his back legs have been degenerating. It\u2019s at the point now where he has no control over his lower body and pees and poops on pads in the living room.  He doesn\u2019t move much at all now except when my dad takes him on walks in his wheelchair, now using front wheels as well, but he\u2019s still able to pull himself with them. He pees constantly all day and sometimes my parents don\u2019t have the opportunity to change his pads right away so he has to lay in his pee and is always trying to clean it up himself. He\u2019s been this way for almost a year now and it seems cruel to keep this up, but at the same time I can understand that my mom doesn\u2019t want to let him go. As far as we can tell he\u2019s not in pain except for maybe bed sore. It\u2019s only muscular degeneration. He doesn\u2019t cry much at all besides when people come home.  Honestly I feel like the biggest problem is the peeing all day and then having to lay in it if my parents are working. I don\u2019t want to see my mom in pain because she has to put him to sleep. Any idea on what I can do\u2026 maybe put some kind of contraption on his dick so he doesn\u2019t just pee on himself\u2026 any input is appreciated..  thank you\u2026","c_root_id_A":"i8ufd81","c_root_id_B":"i8uqkby","created_at_utc_A":1652722731,"created_at_utc_B":1652727192,"score_A":57,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, just a dude who loves dogs.   A few weeks ago I had to put down my best friend Sirius. He had gotten to the point that he was covered in tumors and couldn't hold his pee. He was constantly crying because everything hurt him; standing up, sitting, laying down. Putting him down was hard. I still miss him. But I also know that he's not suffering anymore.   At this point in your dog's life allowing him to escape his pain is the only kind thing that's left. It sucks because we are the ones who have to grieve and miss our pals. But forcing him to live in that agony and prolong his suffering would be cruel, and he deserves better than that.  Godspeed  Edit: on my puppies last day he got a big fat steak, pepperoni pizza, peanut butter, and a Cadbury chocolate bar. He always loved to eat so I wanted to give him everything he loved all at once. After his feast we just layed on the couch and cuddled for a couple of hours","human_ref_B":"His time is now. Don\u2019t keep him alive and suffering because your mother cannot make her peace with allowing him to die.Let him go in a gentle, comfortable, loving setting. He is far beyond ready. Wishing you and your family comfort to each other during these sad times.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4461.0,"score_ratio":1.1929824561}
{"post_id":"uqytez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My parents might put down our dog tomorrow. Here as a last resort.  10 y\/o Male  Not neutered  German shepherd  80lb Muscular degeneration started with back legs couple years ago and progressing throughout body. Can still walked in wheelchair but now needs front wheel support. No control of bowels anymore.   NYC   My mom won\u2019t stop crying and dreading over this.. she still isn\u2019t sure she\u2019ll be able to do it.  They\u2019ve had Rocky our German shepherd for 10 years now and over the last couple of years his back legs have been degenerating. It\u2019s at the point now where he has no control over his lower body and pees and poops on pads in the living room.  He doesn\u2019t move much at all now except when my dad takes him on walks in his wheelchair, now using front wheels as well, but he\u2019s still able to pull himself with them. He pees constantly all day and sometimes my parents don\u2019t have the opportunity to change his pads right away so he has to lay in his pee and is always trying to clean it up himself. He\u2019s been this way for almost a year now and it seems cruel to keep this up, but at the same time I can understand that my mom doesn\u2019t want to let him go. As far as we can tell he\u2019s not in pain except for maybe bed sore. It\u2019s only muscular degeneration. He doesn\u2019t cry much at all besides when people come home.  Honestly I feel like the biggest problem is the peeing all day and then having to lay in it if my parents are working. I don\u2019t want to see my mom in pain because she has to put him to sleep. Any idea on what I can do\u2026 maybe put some kind of contraption on his dick so he doesn\u2019t just pee on himself\u2026 any input is appreciated..  thank you\u2026","c_root_id_A":"i8uqkby","c_root_id_B":"i8uoo70","created_at_utc_A":1652727192,"created_at_utc_B":1652726421,"score_A":68,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"His time is now. Don\u2019t keep him alive and suffering because your mother cannot make her peace with allowing him to die.Let him go in a gentle, comfortable, loving setting. He is far beyond ready. Wishing you and your family comfort to each other during these sad times.","human_ref_B":"That sucks. Your dog\u2019s quality of life is incredibly poor and there is no cure. Let him know how much he is loved","labels":1,"seconds_difference":771.0,"score_ratio":1.1929824561}
{"post_id":"uqytez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My parents might put down our dog tomorrow. Here as a last resort.  10 y\/o Male  Not neutered  German shepherd  80lb Muscular degeneration started with back legs couple years ago and progressing throughout body. Can still walked in wheelchair but now needs front wheel support. No control of bowels anymore.   NYC   My mom won\u2019t stop crying and dreading over this.. she still isn\u2019t sure she\u2019ll be able to do it.  They\u2019ve had Rocky our German shepherd for 10 years now and over the last couple of years his back legs have been degenerating. It\u2019s at the point now where he has no control over his lower body and pees and poops on pads in the living room.  He doesn\u2019t move much at all now except when my dad takes him on walks in his wheelchair, now using front wheels as well, but he\u2019s still able to pull himself with them. He pees constantly all day and sometimes my parents don\u2019t have the opportunity to change his pads right away so he has to lay in his pee and is always trying to clean it up himself. He\u2019s been this way for almost a year now and it seems cruel to keep this up, but at the same time I can understand that my mom doesn\u2019t want to let him go. As far as we can tell he\u2019s not in pain except for maybe bed sore. It\u2019s only muscular degeneration. He doesn\u2019t cry much at all besides when people come home.  Honestly I feel like the biggest problem is the peeing all day and then having to lay in it if my parents are working. I don\u2019t want to see my mom in pain because she has to put him to sleep. Any idea on what I can do\u2026 maybe put some kind of contraption on his dick so he doesn\u2019t just pee on himself\u2026 any input is appreciated..  thank you\u2026","c_root_id_A":"i8vgmwl","c_root_id_B":"i8vq8q8","created_at_utc_A":1652737980,"created_at_utc_B":1652742343,"score_A":32,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Degenerative Myelopathy is a torturous disease because it's always difficult to know when is the right time due to its slow progression. Unfortunately the next day is always going to be more difficult than the last. As you've said, it's thankfully nonpainful.  The belly bands another poster mentioned could provide some easier cleanup of the accidents.  My best to you and your family.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry you're going through this, but an inability to control his bowels\/urination is an end of life condition.    You and your family clearly love him and I suspect he would not have had a better life with another family.  It is hard, but you have taken good care of him all his life and now the way to take care of him is to let him go.  I'm so sorry - it isn't easy but you have done everything you can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4363.0,"score_ratio":1.28125}
{"post_id":"uqytez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My parents might put down our dog tomorrow. Here as a last resort.  10 y\/o Male  Not neutered  German shepherd  80lb Muscular degeneration started with back legs couple years ago and progressing throughout body. Can still walked in wheelchair but now needs front wheel support. No control of bowels anymore.   NYC   My mom won\u2019t stop crying and dreading over this.. she still isn\u2019t sure she\u2019ll be able to do it.  They\u2019ve had Rocky our German shepherd for 10 years now and over the last couple of years his back legs have been degenerating. It\u2019s at the point now where he has no control over his lower body and pees and poops on pads in the living room.  He doesn\u2019t move much at all now except when my dad takes him on walks in his wheelchair, now using front wheels as well, but he\u2019s still able to pull himself with them. He pees constantly all day and sometimes my parents don\u2019t have the opportunity to change his pads right away so he has to lay in his pee and is always trying to clean it up himself. He\u2019s been this way for almost a year now and it seems cruel to keep this up, but at the same time I can understand that my mom doesn\u2019t want to let him go. As far as we can tell he\u2019s not in pain except for maybe bed sore. It\u2019s only muscular degeneration. He doesn\u2019t cry much at all besides when people come home.  Honestly I feel like the biggest problem is the peeing all day and then having to lay in it if my parents are working. I don\u2019t want to see my mom in pain because she has to put him to sleep. Any idea on what I can do\u2026 maybe put some kind of contraption on his dick so he doesn\u2019t just pee on himself\u2026 any input is appreciated..  thank you\u2026","c_root_id_A":"i8vq8q8","c_root_id_B":"i8vddnt","created_at_utc_A":1652742343,"created_at_utc_B":1652736569,"score_A":41,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you're going through this, but an inability to control his bowels\/urination is an end of life condition.    You and your family clearly love him and I suspect he would not have had a better life with another family.  It is hard, but you have taken good care of him all his life and now the way to take care of him is to let him go.  I'm so sorry - it isn't easy but you have done everything you can.","human_ref_B":"due to different circumstances i have seen a few instances of people holding on euthanasia, some times people in an ironic turn of events, can be pretty selfish on what themselves want for the dog claiming that they only want the best for the dog, and that can lead to prolongation of suffering.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5774.0,"score_ratio":2.9285714286}
{"post_id":"uqytez","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My parents might put down our dog tomorrow. Here as a last resort.  10 y\/o Male  Not neutered  German shepherd  80lb Muscular degeneration started with back legs couple years ago and progressing throughout body. Can still walked in wheelchair but now needs front wheel support. No control of bowels anymore.   NYC   My mom won\u2019t stop crying and dreading over this.. she still isn\u2019t sure she\u2019ll be able to do it.  They\u2019ve had Rocky our German shepherd for 10 years now and over the last couple of years his back legs have been degenerating. It\u2019s at the point now where he has no control over his lower body and pees and poops on pads in the living room.  He doesn\u2019t move much at all now except when my dad takes him on walks in his wheelchair, now using front wheels as well, but he\u2019s still able to pull himself with them. He pees constantly all day and sometimes my parents don\u2019t have the opportunity to change his pads right away so he has to lay in his pee and is always trying to clean it up himself. He\u2019s been this way for almost a year now and it seems cruel to keep this up, but at the same time I can understand that my mom doesn\u2019t want to let him go. As far as we can tell he\u2019s not in pain except for maybe bed sore. It\u2019s only muscular degeneration. He doesn\u2019t cry much at all besides when people come home.  Honestly I feel like the biggest problem is the peeing all day and then having to lay in it if my parents are working. I don\u2019t want to see my mom in pain because she has to put him to sleep. Any idea on what I can do\u2026 maybe put some kind of contraption on his dick so he doesn\u2019t just pee on himself\u2026 any input is appreciated..  thank you\u2026","c_root_id_A":"i8vddnt","c_root_id_B":"i8vgmwl","created_at_utc_A":1652736569,"created_at_utc_B":1652737980,"score_A":14,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"due to different circumstances i have seen a few instances of people holding on euthanasia, some times people in an ironic turn of events, can be pretty selfish on what themselves want for the dog claiming that they only want the best for the dog, and that can lead to prolongation of suffering.","human_ref_B":"Degenerative Myelopathy is a torturous disease because it's always difficult to know when is the right time due to its slow progression. Unfortunately the next day is always going to be more difficult than the last. As you've said, it's thankfully nonpainful.  The belly bands another poster mentioned could provide some easier cleanup of the accidents.  My best to you and your family.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1411.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"diwp5s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Will my cat get cold enough to need a sweater?? It sounds like a stupid question but hear me out.   I have a 6.5 month old, male shorthaired grey tabby (currently not on any meds or anything). I got him about a month and a half ago and discovered that he has a RIDICULOUS amount of energy. Well it turns out that the only thing to satiate and tire him out is going out on leashed walks (otherwise he is strictly indoor only). We go out on daily 2 mile long walks through a foresty park. We live in the PNW (US) so it is starting to get pretty chilly here. Should i get him a sweater for when we go out or will his fur be enough warmth for him? I wouldn't bother if he had a longer and thicker coat but im not so sure since his coat is shorter and not very dense.","c_root_id_A":"f3zicj8","c_root_id_B":"f3zgo6g","created_at_utc_A":1571269723,"created_at_utc_B":1571268775,"score_A":63,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Make sure he has a way to get off the ground or cuddle up.  Make sure you bring a bag\/sling he can ride in if he decides half-way through the walk that the ground is too cold\/painful to walk on.","human_ref_B":"No  Edit: Maybe","labels":1,"seconds_difference":948.0,"score_ratio":2.7391304348}
{"post_id":"diwp5s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Will my cat get cold enough to need a sweater?? It sounds like a stupid question but hear me out.   I have a 6.5 month old, male shorthaired grey tabby (currently not on any meds or anything). I got him about a month and a half ago and discovered that he has a RIDICULOUS amount of energy. Well it turns out that the only thing to satiate and tire him out is going out on leashed walks (otherwise he is strictly indoor only). We go out on daily 2 mile long walks through a foresty park. We live in the PNW (US) so it is starting to get pretty chilly here. Should i get him a sweater for when we go out or will his fur be enough warmth for him? I wouldn't bother if he had a longer and thicker coat but im not so sure since his coat is shorter and not very dense.","c_root_id_A":"f3zgo6g","c_root_id_B":"f3zim1r","created_at_utc_A":1571268775,"created_at_utc_B":1571269891,"score_A":23,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"No  Edit: Maybe","human_ref_B":"If PNW West of the Cascades: Unlikely.   If PNW East of the Cascades: Possibly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1116.0,"score_ratio":1.2608695652}
{"post_id":"aspcfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"i just found a big tortoise and he\/she just sleep all day\/night 3 days ago, i found a big tortoise in the backyard of my house, he was covered in dust and dying (i guess) because  he spent like 5 minutes drinking water.  i don't know where it came from, i asked my neigbours and they also don't know. it's  really big, like 30cm long and 10-15 cm tall.  i gave him so fruits\/vegetables and he ate it all, he drinks water but after doing it, he goes to a dark corner in the back of the house to sleep all day. I left him yesterday in that spot and after 24 hours, he is still there.  After searching a lot, i found it's a red foot tortoise. is it normal for him to spend that much time sleeping and not moving at all?","c_root_id_A":"egw1lrk","c_root_id_B":"egw8nhr","created_at_utc_A":1550683412,"created_at_utc_B":1550688037,"score_A":31,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I haven't seen anyone mention it yet so...  If you're not familiar with herps, you should know that they can carry harmful bacteria, like salmonella, and you always wash your hands after touching it or anything it's come in contact with.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but Ive had reptiles and am familiar with them.  Tortoises are cold blooded and need external heat. If he has not moved it is likely he is too cold. You need to get him warmed up, get a heating lamp asap.  Red footed tortoises are extremely common ones to get as pets. Make sure you keep an eye out for his owners. But its also likely he was abandoned and you might have a mew tortoise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4625.0,"score_ratio":1.1612903226}
{"post_id":"aspcfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"i just found a big tortoise and he\/she just sleep all day\/night 3 days ago, i found a big tortoise in the backyard of my house, he was covered in dust and dying (i guess) because  he spent like 5 minutes drinking water.  i don't know where it came from, i asked my neigbours and they also don't know. it's  really big, like 30cm long and 10-15 cm tall.  i gave him so fruits\/vegetables and he ate it all, he drinks water but after doing it, he goes to a dark corner in the back of the house to sleep all day. I left him yesterday in that spot and after 24 hours, he is still there.  After searching a lot, i found it's a red foot tortoise. is it normal for him to spend that much time sleeping and not moving at all?","c_root_id_A":"egvuzlw","c_root_id_B":"egw8nhr","created_at_utc_A":1550678926,"created_at_utc_B":1550688037,"score_A":17,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"The red foot tortoise is a South American species that I see is sold in the pet industry.  Could this be a 'lost pet' from one of your close neighbors? Because he ate a lot of food & drank water right away is why I thought it may be a 'stray pet'.   I read red-foot tortoises do have periods of dormancy (similar to hibernation) that depends on climate.  A decent article in wiki here about them-  https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Red-footed_tortoise  It's probably a good idea to have a Vet take a look at him. You can ask the Vet if his area in your house is suitable for a tortoise, and you're offering the right diet.  If you're not in South America perhaps ask your neighbors if they are searching for a 'lost pet'.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but Ive had reptiles and am familiar with them.  Tortoises are cold blooded and need external heat. If he has not moved it is likely he is too cold. You need to get him warmed up, get a heating lamp asap.  Red footed tortoises are extremely common ones to get as pets. Make sure you keep an eye out for his owners. But its also likely he was abandoned and you might have a mew tortoise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9111.0,"score_ratio":2.1176470588}
{"post_id":"aspcfw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"i just found a big tortoise and he\/she just sleep all day\/night 3 days ago, i found a big tortoise in the backyard of my house, he was covered in dust and dying (i guess) because  he spent like 5 minutes drinking water.  i don't know where it came from, i asked my neigbours and they also don't know. it's  really big, like 30cm long and 10-15 cm tall.  i gave him so fruits\/vegetables and he ate it all, he drinks water but after doing it, he goes to a dark corner in the back of the house to sleep all day. I left him yesterday in that spot and after 24 hours, he is still there.  After searching a lot, i found it's a red foot tortoise. is it normal for him to spend that much time sleeping and not moving at all?","c_root_id_A":"egvuzlw","c_root_id_B":"egw1lrk","created_at_utc_A":1550678926,"created_at_utc_B":1550683412,"score_A":17,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"The red foot tortoise is a South American species that I see is sold in the pet industry.  Could this be a 'lost pet' from one of your close neighbors? Because he ate a lot of food & drank water right away is why I thought it may be a 'stray pet'.   I read red-foot tortoises do have periods of dormancy (similar to hibernation) that depends on climate.  A decent article in wiki here about them-  https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Red-footed_tortoise  It's probably a good idea to have a Vet take a look at him. You can ask the Vet if his area in your house is suitable for a tortoise, and you're offering the right diet.  If you're not in South America perhaps ask your neighbors if they are searching for a 'lost pet'.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I haven't seen anyone mention it yet so...  If you're not familiar with herps, you should know that they can carry harmful bacteria, like salmonella, and you always wash your hands after touching it or anything it's come in contact with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4486.0,"score_ratio":1.8235294118}
{"post_id":"7lq962","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I witnessed a dog refusing to stop swimming in a large pond at the local dog park to the point of exhaustion and near drowning today. What happened here?? I was at the local popular dog park in my town today with the pupper. They have a large pond with a fountain in the middle of it that has multiple dog friendly entrances on all sides of it. It's very normal and commonplace to see dogs swimming in the pond.  Today I saw a young healthy appearing dog swimming in the middle of the pond, looking like he was having a good time, smiling and chomping \/ barking at the water. The owners looked like a young couple, teenagers. After about 5 minutes, the dog kept swimming in circles, doing his thing. Chomping and barking at the water, the owners aren't concerned. No one's really minding, everything is fine.  5 more minutes go by, and the dog is starting to look tired, but he's still swimming in circles and random directions. Panting a bit, chomping at the water. You can no longer see his back side in the water, as it has sunk and he's swimming \"diagonally\" versus horizontally that dogs typically swim. I'm looking a little concerned, and the owners start calling him back to shore.  5 more minutes of this go by, and the owners can't seem to get the dogs attention. The dog is looking exhausted and his head starts to dip in the water a couple times, he's still chomping and barking at the water, still darting in random directions, looking like he's having a good time, but it's starting to really appear unsafe and worrisome.  5 more minutes go by, and now every one at the park appears concerned. There's a small group of people at the same shore, calling the dog attempting to get him to swim ashore. It's been probably 10 minutes since I have seen his tail or rear end, his head is bobbing at the water's surface, some of his barks are muffled with water entering his mouth.  a few more minutes go by, and now there's a large concern, the dog is slowing down, and swimming \"vertically\" his ears are submerging occasionally, his barks are muffled and his front paws aren't clearing the water's surface with every dog paddle.  I'm calling the dog, the owners are calling the dog, other owners at the park are calling the dog, and it appears clear that something is definitely awry. I take every thing out of my pockets and put it in a chair next to me, take off my jacket. The owner's are young and dont seem OVERLY concerned, but more annoyed that he wont leave the water.  All a sudden I see the dogs head submerge under water entirely. I look at the owners who are just standing there, other owners are just standing there. The dog is still paddling and kicking, his head bobs back out of the water, but his eyes and nose are the only thing out of the water. I immediately kick my shoes off and jump in the water, swim over to the 80lb pit bull mix and lift him half way out of the water as I walk back to shore.  The dog starts fighting me, trying to go back to the center of the pond, and upon walking to the shore, and pulling the dog up onto the ledge, THE DOG JUMPS BACK IN THE WATER. He tries to start swimming towards the center again, but I grab him and pull him to the shore. Hold the dog, and tell the owners to put him on the leash, and that maybe that's enough of the park for him today.  Oddly enough, this is the SECOND time I've witnessed something like this happen. Earlier in the year, a young healthy looking lab mix showed similar behaviors, but was swimming more towards the shores and the owners were much older and much more responsible, were able to leash him near the shore, pull him out and leave. But it took a solid 10-15 minutes of calling the dog near the shore to get him close enough to leash him.  What is happening here? I tried to google \"swimming confusion\" or \"near drowning\" with dogs, but nothing is pulling up. I've owned dogs all my life, and have never heard of or seen such behavior before. The dog I had to pull out of the water was literally in the act of drowning by the time I jumped in, and had I waited for the owners to take action, I think that dog would have inhaled a large amount of water and drowned. I don't want to just write it off as \"the dog is dumb\" and he didn't know how to leave the water, because you would think instincts would at least tell the exhausted and panting dog not to jump BACK in the water after being pulled to solid ground.  Very confusing day.  **TLDR:** Dog swam in circles to the point of nearly drowning, I jumped into the pond, pulled the dog out, who then proceeded to try and jump back in the pond to swim. Had to be leashed and removed from the park to prevent the dog from killing himself.","c_root_id_A":"drof98h","c_root_id_B":"droe7qh","created_at_utc_A":1514069886,"created_at_utc_B":1514068460,"score_A":83,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I work part time in canine hydrotherapy.   You'd be astounded at how many dogs have no\/very limited self preservation, and would seemingly swim themselves until they drowned, whether that be through water consumption or fatigue. For obvious reasons, I have always intervened before getting to that point, but they do give the impression that they just would not stop unless forced to. Sometimes this behaviour appears obsessive, and sometimes like they are just having that much fun.   Even a very fit dog used to swimming should do no more than a few minutes at a time without resting.   Well done for intervening! Though unfortunately the dog may still suffer from water intoxication or secondary drowning from the amount of water swallowed. People rarely realise the potential risks of their dogs being in\/around water.","human_ref_B":"My springer will fixate on ducks at our local lake. Her recall is improving but she once just kept up a slow-speed pursuit of a couple of paddling ducks to the point of obvious tiring. I began stripping down to jump in myself before she finally heeded my wife and me and returned to shore.    I expect this dog fixated on something real or imagined under the surface. Wouldn't be the first dog to lose his or her ears due to high prey drive.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1426.0,"score_ratio":5.9285714286}
{"post_id":"7lq962","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I witnessed a dog refusing to stop swimming in a large pond at the local dog park to the point of exhaustion and near drowning today. What happened here?? I was at the local popular dog park in my town today with the pupper. They have a large pond with a fountain in the middle of it that has multiple dog friendly entrances on all sides of it. It's very normal and commonplace to see dogs swimming in the pond.  Today I saw a young healthy appearing dog swimming in the middle of the pond, looking like he was having a good time, smiling and chomping \/ barking at the water. The owners looked like a young couple, teenagers. After about 5 minutes, the dog kept swimming in circles, doing his thing. Chomping and barking at the water, the owners aren't concerned. No one's really minding, everything is fine.  5 more minutes go by, and the dog is starting to look tired, but he's still swimming in circles and random directions. Panting a bit, chomping at the water. You can no longer see his back side in the water, as it has sunk and he's swimming \"diagonally\" versus horizontally that dogs typically swim. I'm looking a little concerned, and the owners start calling him back to shore.  5 more minutes of this go by, and the owners can't seem to get the dogs attention. The dog is looking exhausted and his head starts to dip in the water a couple times, he's still chomping and barking at the water, still darting in random directions, looking like he's having a good time, but it's starting to really appear unsafe and worrisome.  5 more minutes go by, and now every one at the park appears concerned. There's a small group of people at the same shore, calling the dog attempting to get him to swim ashore. It's been probably 10 minutes since I have seen his tail or rear end, his head is bobbing at the water's surface, some of his barks are muffled with water entering his mouth.  a few more minutes go by, and now there's a large concern, the dog is slowing down, and swimming \"vertically\" his ears are submerging occasionally, his barks are muffled and his front paws aren't clearing the water's surface with every dog paddle.  I'm calling the dog, the owners are calling the dog, other owners at the park are calling the dog, and it appears clear that something is definitely awry. I take every thing out of my pockets and put it in a chair next to me, take off my jacket. The owner's are young and dont seem OVERLY concerned, but more annoyed that he wont leave the water.  All a sudden I see the dogs head submerge under water entirely. I look at the owners who are just standing there, other owners are just standing there. The dog is still paddling and kicking, his head bobs back out of the water, but his eyes and nose are the only thing out of the water. I immediately kick my shoes off and jump in the water, swim over to the 80lb pit bull mix and lift him half way out of the water as I walk back to shore.  The dog starts fighting me, trying to go back to the center of the pond, and upon walking to the shore, and pulling the dog up onto the ledge, THE DOG JUMPS BACK IN THE WATER. He tries to start swimming towards the center again, but I grab him and pull him to the shore. Hold the dog, and tell the owners to put him on the leash, and that maybe that's enough of the park for him today.  Oddly enough, this is the SECOND time I've witnessed something like this happen. Earlier in the year, a young healthy looking lab mix showed similar behaviors, but was swimming more towards the shores and the owners were much older and much more responsible, were able to leash him near the shore, pull him out and leave. But it took a solid 10-15 minutes of calling the dog near the shore to get him close enough to leash him.  What is happening here? I tried to google \"swimming confusion\" or \"near drowning\" with dogs, but nothing is pulling up. I've owned dogs all my life, and have never heard of or seen such behavior before. The dog I had to pull out of the water was literally in the act of drowning by the time I jumped in, and had I waited for the owners to take action, I think that dog would have inhaled a large amount of water and drowned. I don't want to just write it off as \"the dog is dumb\" and he didn't know how to leave the water, because you would think instincts would at least tell the exhausted and panting dog not to jump BACK in the water after being pulled to solid ground.  Very confusing day.  **TLDR:** Dog swam in circles to the point of nearly drowning, I jumped into the pond, pulled the dog out, who then proceeded to try and jump back in the pond to swim. Had to be leashed and removed from the park to prevent the dog from killing himself.","c_root_id_A":"drodl7b","c_root_id_B":"drof98h","created_at_utc_A":1514067615,"created_at_utc_B":1514069886,"score_A":12,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"As another guy said, the dog might just be a spaz. But it could be that the dog swims to the middle and gets disoriented and is basically swimming in a circle trying to get its bearings. If it was the first time that dog went into the pond it likely isn\u2019t familiar with the layout and once dogs get in the water if they don\u2019t know the way out they\u2019ll meander about or try to get out at places it is not possible for them to exit out of, which is why you have to teach your dog where the steps are when they use a pool.   Also there\u2019s a fine line for dogs between having fun and freaking out and they can go from one to another in a split second. The dog could have both been having fun and struggling at the same time.   Or dog is a spaz.   Dogs are goofs. Glad everything worked out alright.","human_ref_B":"I work part time in canine hydrotherapy.   You'd be astounded at how many dogs have no\/very limited self preservation, and would seemingly swim themselves until they drowned, whether that be through water consumption or fatigue. For obvious reasons, I have always intervened before getting to that point, but they do give the impression that they just would not stop unless forced to. Sometimes this behaviour appears obsessive, and sometimes like they are just having that much fun.   Even a very fit dog used to swimming should do no more than a few minutes at a time without resting.   Well done for intervening! Though unfortunately the dog may still suffer from water intoxication or secondary drowning from the amount of water swallowed. People rarely realise the potential risks of their dogs being in\/around water.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2271.0,"score_ratio":6.9166666667}
{"post_id":"7lq962","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I witnessed a dog refusing to stop swimming in a large pond at the local dog park to the point of exhaustion and near drowning today. What happened here?? I was at the local popular dog park in my town today with the pupper. They have a large pond with a fountain in the middle of it that has multiple dog friendly entrances on all sides of it. It's very normal and commonplace to see dogs swimming in the pond.  Today I saw a young healthy appearing dog swimming in the middle of the pond, looking like he was having a good time, smiling and chomping \/ barking at the water. The owners looked like a young couple, teenagers. After about 5 minutes, the dog kept swimming in circles, doing his thing. Chomping and barking at the water, the owners aren't concerned. No one's really minding, everything is fine.  5 more minutes go by, and the dog is starting to look tired, but he's still swimming in circles and random directions. Panting a bit, chomping at the water. You can no longer see his back side in the water, as it has sunk and he's swimming \"diagonally\" versus horizontally that dogs typically swim. I'm looking a little concerned, and the owners start calling him back to shore.  5 more minutes of this go by, and the owners can't seem to get the dogs attention. The dog is looking exhausted and his head starts to dip in the water a couple times, he's still chomping and barking at the water, still darting in random directions, looking like he's having a good time, but it's starting to really appear unsafe and worrisome.  5 more minutes go by, and now every one at the park appears concerned. There's a small group of people at the same shore, calling the dog attempting to get him to swim ashore. It's been probably 10 minutes since I have seen his tail or rear end, his head is bobbing at the water's surface, some of his barks are muffled with water entering his mouth.  a few more minutes go by, and now there's a large concern, the dog is slowing down, and swimming \"vertically\" his ears are submerging occasionally, his barks are muffled and his front paws aren't clearing the water's surface with every dog paddle.  I'm calling the dog, the owners are calling the dog, other owners at the park are calling the dog, and it appears clear that something is definitely awry. I take every thing out of my pockets and put it in a chair next to me, take off my jacket. The owner's are young and dont seem OVERLY concerned, but more annoyed that he wont leave the water.  All a sudden I see the dogs head submerge under water entirely. I look at the owners who are just standing there, other owners are just standing there. The dog is still paddling and kicking, his head bobs back out of the water, but his eyes and nose are the only thing out of the water. I immediately kick my shoes off and jump in the water, swim over to the 80lb pit bull mix and lift him half way out of the water as I walk back to shore.  The dog starts fighting me, trying to go back to the center of the pond, and upon walking to the shore, and pulling the dog up onto the ledge, THE DOG JUMPS BACK IN THE WATER. He tries to start swimming towards the center again, but I grab him and pull him to the shore. Hold the dog, and tell the owners to put him on the leash, and that maybe that's enough of the park for him today.  Oddly enough, this is the SECOND time I've witnessed something like this happen. Earlier in the year, a young healthy looking lab mix showed similar behaviors, but was swimming more towards the shores and the owners were much older and much more responsible, were able to leash him near the shore, pull him out and leave. But it took a solid 10-15 minutes of calling the dog near the shore to get him close enough to leash him.  What is happening here? I tried to google \"swimming confusion\" or \"near drowning\" with dogs, but nothing is pulling up. I've owned dogs all my life, and have never heard of or seen such behavior before. The dog I had to pull out of the water was literally in the act of drowning by the time I jumped in, and had I waited for the owners to take action, I think that dog would have inhaled a large amount of water and drowned. I don't want to just write it off as \"the dog is dumb\" and he didn't know how to leave the water, because you would think instincts would at least tell the exhausted and panting dog not to jump BACK in the water after being pulled to solid ground.  Very confusing day.  **TLDR:** Dog swam in circles to the point of nearly drowning, I jumped into the pond, pulled the dog out, who then proceeded to try and jump back in the pond to swim. Had to be leashed and removed from the park to prevent the dog from killing himself.","c_root_id_A":"droe7qh","c_root_id_B":"drodl7b","created_at_utc_A":1514068460,"created_at_utc_B":1514067615,"score_A":14,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"My springer will fixate on ducks at our local lake. Her recall is improving but she once just kept up a slow-speed pursuit of a couple of paddling ducks to the point of obvious tiring. I began stripping down to jump in myself before she finally heeded my wife and me and returned to shore.    I expect this dog fixated on something real or imagined under the surface. Wouldn't be the first dog to lose his or her ears due to high prey drive.","human_ref_B":"As another guy said, the dog might just be a spaz. But it could be that the dog swims to the middle and gets disoriented and is basically swimming in a circle trying to get its bearings. If it was the first time that dog went into the pond it likely isn\u2019t familiar with the layout and once dogs get in the water if they don\u2019t know the way out they\u2019ll meander about or try to get out at places it is not possible for them to exit out of, which is why you have to teach your dog where the steps are when they use a pool.   Also there\u2019s a fine line for dogs between having fun and freaking out and they can go from one to another in a split second. The dog could have both been having fun and struggling at the same time.   Or dog is a spaz.   Dogs are goofs. Glad everything worked out alright.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":845.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"gyvvv0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog has something on his paw, I tried taking it off but it\u2019s stuck and I tried putting in in hot water to soak but neither work, it seems like it\u2019s connected to he actual skin but it\u2019s far bigger than a tic and it doesn\u2019t look like one either, how do I get rid of this?","c_root_id_A":"ftcqo75","c_root_id_B":"ftcq28u","created_at_utc_A":1591607720,"created_at_utc_B":1591607081,"score_A":89,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I really wouldn\u2019t try anything more yourself, the dog should be taken to a vet","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":639.0,"score_ratio":14.8333333333}
{"post_id":"gyvvv0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog has something on his paw, I tried taking it off but it\u2019s stuck and I tried putting in in hot water to soak but neither work, it seems like it\u2019s connected to he actual skin but it\u2019s far bigger than a tic and it doesn\u2019t look like one either, how do I get rid of this?","c_root_id_A":"ftcq28u","c_root_id_B":"ftcwny0","created_at_utc_A":1591607081,"created_at_utc_B":1591613811,"score_A":6,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Could you attach a picture?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6730.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"gyvvv0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog has something on his paw, I tried taking it off but it\u2019s stuck and I tried putting in in hot water to soak but neither work, it seems like it\u2019s connected to he actual skin but it\u2019s far bigger than a tic and it doesn\u2019t look like one either, how do I get rid of this?","c_root_id_A":"ftcq28u","c_root_id_B":"ftczjcy","created_at_utc_A":1591607081,"created_at_utc_B":1591616431,"score_A":6,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Vet visit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9350.0,"score_ratio":4.1666666667}
{"post_id":"gyvvv0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog has something on his paw, I tried taking it off but it\u2019s stuck and I tried putting in in hot water to soak but neither work, it seems like it\u2019s connected to he actual skin but it\u2019s far bigger than a tic and it doesn\u2019t look like one either, how do I get rid of this?","c_root_id_A":"ftcq28u","c_root_id_B":"ftdt41f","created_at_utc_A":1591607081,"created_at_utc_B":1591634029,"score_A":6,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I probably wouldn\u2019t try removing that. If you think it\u2019s connected to his actual skin it might be a growth, and you should consider contacting a vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26948.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gigvky","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My elderly chihuahua keeps choking\/coughing but nothing comes up. I think the vet may have misdiagnosed The vet diagnosed my dog with congestive heart failure and provided a script for Lasix. It\u2019s been a few months now and he still cough\/chokes a few times then 1 big one like as if something is going to be coughed up, but nothing.  My sister\u2019s dog started doing something similar and her vet took an X-ray and said it was a collapsed trachea.  My elderly dog doesn\u2019t go on walks very often now (wee pads) but up until about a year ago he\u2019d be on a normal leash & collar and he\u2019d pull or we\u2019d pull on it. Assuming after years and years this caused damage. Should I get X-rays done and a second opinion?","c_root_id_A":"fqf90zs","c_root_id_B":"fqffo8t","created_at_utc_A":1589320743,"created_at_utc_B":1589324054,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"What diagnostic tests were done that led to the diagnosis for CHF?","human_ref_B":"ER vet here. Did your doctor do baseline xrays at the time of original diagnosis? It would not shock me to hear of an older chihuahua having either congestive heart failure or collapsing trachea, but a good physical exam and xrays would be a typical workup. If you haven't had xrays done it's not wrong to ask for them as it could make the situation more clear. Some dogs could have features of multiple conditions on physical exam, so it is beneficial to establishing a good diagnosis. Of note there are other conditions which could make a dog cough so it's definitely worth doing xrays to get more info. If you are interested in knowing more about your dogs heart disease you can also ask a veterinarian about an echocardiogram, it is a more costly diagnostic but does give a lot of valuable information   As well just to help clarify a bit. In heart failure we use lasix to help keep edema (fluid) from building up on the lungs. Edema is one thing but not the only thing which causes dogs to cough. For example changes in normal pressure gradients within the heart as it starts to fail can cause it to enlarge in certain ways which are not normal. As this happens direct pressure from the enlarged heart can be put on the airways which can also cause a cough. So just because a dog continues to cough does not mean the lasix isnt doing its job. If you are seeing a change in the frequency or character of your dogs cough it is able a good idea to have your dog rechecked.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3311.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"dejjv1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Do you get annoyed\/angry when clients take their pets to other vets for second opinions? I know this is probably a dumb question, but I'm an anxious person so I want to ask it anyway.    We've been dealing with a URI in my cats for about a month now, and it seems to be getting worse rather than better. My vet has taken a very \"it'll clear up. Wtv\" stance, which makes me nervous, so I made an appointment at another vet for a second opinion.    While making that appointment, I found out that they are going to call my old vet to get the records sent over, which means now my old vet is going to know I went somewhere else literally a week after seeing them.    What if I don't like the new vet and I end up going back to my old vet anyway? Will they hold it against me that I didn't just trust them? Is that something some vets do?","c_root_id_A":"f2w1u8e","c_root_id_B":"f2w0nt7","created_at_utc_A":1570460230,"created_at_utc_B":1570459791,"score_A":69,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"As a vet - not at all. Sometimes it takes a fresh set of eyes looking at things in order to figure out what's going on. I've been lucky enough to mostly work with other people around and we always discuss cases. If I'm not getting anywhere there isn't any point in keeping at it just for the sake of ego if there is someone else available who thinks differently.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not a vet but I wouldn\u2019t worry about it. Humans get second opinions from other doctors for themselves all the time. That doesn\u2019t mean to say your current vet is wrong but what harm can it do to make sure your pet is getting the best care possible?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":439.0,"score_ratio":3.1363636364}
{"post_id":"dejjv1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Do you get annoyed\/angry when clients take their pets to other vets for second opinions? I know this is probably a dumb question, but I'm an anxious person so I want to ask it anyway.    We've been dealing with a URI in my cats for about a month now, and it seems to be getting worse rather than better. My vet has taken a very \"it'll clear up. Wtv\" stance, which makes me nervous, so I made an appointment at another vet for a second opinion.    While making that appointment, I found out that they are going to call my old vet to get the records sent over, which means now my old vet is going to know I went somewhere else literally a week after seeing them.    What if I don't like the new vet and I end up going back to my old vet anyway? Will they hold it against me that I didn't just trust them? Is that something some vets do?","c_root_id_A":"f2yhzyr","c_root_id_B":"f2w4r5t","created_at_utc_A":1570491799,"created_at_utc_B":1570461288,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"They will never be mad. It happens ALL the time. Is actually incredibly routine for a tech\/reception to call all the time. Most of the time reception forwards the records and the vet never even knows it\u2019s happening unless it\u2019s some serious condition like xrays or ultrasounds sent over","human_ref_B":"It's your right to see a vet that you prefer. It's normal that people go to different vets. The reason why they need history from your previous vets is to see what was happening in the past, what was done and what else could be done. No one takes it personally.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30511.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"dejjv1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Do you get annoyed\/angry when clients take their pets to other vets for second opinions? I know this is probably a dumb question, but I'm an anxious person so I want to ask it anyway.    We've been dealing with a URI in my cats for about a month now, and it seems to be getting worse rather than better. My vet has taken a very \"it'll clear up. Wtv\" stance, which makes me nervous, so I made an appointment at another vet for a second opinion.    While making that appointment, I found out that they are going to call my old vet to get the records sent over, which means now my old vet is going to know I went somewhere else literally a week after seeing them.    What if I don't like the new vet and I end up going back to my old vet anyway? Will they hold it against me that I didn't just trust them? Is that something some vets do?","c_root_id_A":"f2w4r5t","c_root_id_B":"f2yx6wa","created_at_utc_A":1570461288,"created_at_utc_B":1570500582,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It's your right to see a vet that you prefer. It's normal that people go to different vets. The reason why they need history from your previous vets is to see what was happening in the past, what was done and what else could be done. No one takes it personally.","human_ref_B":"I absolutely do not mind. Especially if it's not a straightforward case I don't mind, because really at the end of the day I just want the pet to feel good. I don't take it personally and don't care- if you come back to me, great! If you don't, it wasn't a good fit anyways, so great!    What really irks me is when someone comes to me for a second opinion but won't let me get the previous records because they don't want to offend the previous vet. Usually means I have to repeat a lot of the  tests, and usually second time around people are less willing to pay for them. Lose-lose.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":39294.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"cetnk0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Pulled a tapeworm out that was dangling from my kitten\u2019s butt. What do I do next? link to tapeworm photo  Info:  Species: feline  Age: 2 months  Sex\/neuter status: female\/spay date on 08\/19  Breed: tabby   Weight: 3 lbs 4 oz   History: On Saturday 7\/13 I adopted a kitten from my local animal shelter. After 2 days, we started seeing tapeworm segments scattered around the house. I know this is common in cats, especially shelter cats. We contacted the vet and got deworming medication in her yesterday around 6pm CST. After she was going to the bathroom around 7:30pm CST, I noticed something dangling from her butt. Lucky for me, it was a lovely tapeworm so I just grabbed it because it looked like it was no longer attached to her and it was just stuck to some fecal matter that she hadn\u2019t pushed out all the way.   The vet had told us that the worm would be digested in her intestines and we would most likely not see it come out.  Are there any precautionary measurements I should take so she doesn\u2019t catch a tapeworm again? And how do I know that it is completely out of her system and that there are no larva or adults still inside her?  TLDR; pulled a massive tapeworm out of my 2 month old kitten. Unsure of what to do next","c_root_id_A":"eu5g9mm","c_root_id_B":"eu5fvp0","created_at_utc_A":1563476931,"created_at_utc_B":1563476691,"score_A":78,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"You were able to pull it out because it died after the medication was administered. Most of the time the worms are digested in the small intestines but sometimes they aren\u2019t, like your veterinarian told you. Be wary of what you read online. No further treatment is needed for tapeworms. To prevent them in the future, prevent fleas with a quality flea preventive.","human_ref_B":"Cats get tapeworms from eating their fleas. So make sure she's on flea preventative every month (yes, even indoor only cats can get fleas. They can travel inside just like any other insect). The flea preventatives you get from your vet also double as dewormers for other nasty parasites she may have or pick up. Tapeworms usually require a different medication to treat, so yes you should follow up with your vet to see if they recommend another treatment based on what they've done so far.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":240.0,"score_ratio":2.7857142857}
{"post_id":"c8mjon","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat is sorting his poop? Hi, I posted earlier in the month about my cats sudden sexual obsession with all things fluffy.   I'm not a troll, though I'm starting to wonder if my cat is trolling me.  He has two litter trays, one new and regular sized and his giant old one (he's a big cat) The last week he has begun \"sorting\" his wee and poo. He will only wee in the new one and will only  poop in the old one. I have seen him pee in the new one, neatly cover it up then walk two feet to his other litter tray, dig a hole and poop in it, then cover it up. Why? What is my lovable weirdo thinking???","c_root_id_A":"esodyqf","c_root_id_B":"esocj4k","created_at_utc_A":1562165614,"created_at_utc_B":1562164752,"score_A":218,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"In my professional veterinary opinion, cats are weird.","human_ref_B":"Like humans animals have their own quirks (like they all have their own preferences too).  He just doesn't like pooping where he pees. Sometimes it's just a personal quirk (animals aren't all just robots that work on instinct).     (One of my cats by the way pees by standing on the edge of the litterbox and peeing into the litterbox, his own personal quirk).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":862.0,"score_ratio":4.5416666667}
{"post_id":"bgzvgx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My gf's dog is dying and she can't afford paying for her anymore. I posted on r\/Assistance and one of the mods suggested i should post here asking for advice.  Age: 6.5  Breed: Yorkie  Spayed: yes  Female  Weight: 3 pounds and 15 ounces (she's been losing weight exponentially since she got sick)  My gf's dog has been getting more and more sick, my gf has been taking her to the vet since the first day she noticed the little girl got sick but it's been getting more and more expensive and now all her credit cards are maxed out and i can't help her pay for it as well because she's in the U.S. and i'm in Mexico also i have my own monetary problems dealing with my father passing away last October, paying for legal procedures because he didn't have a last will as well as paying for my mom's alzheimer's treatments and the very basic living stuff working a night shift job.  The diagnosis for the dog so far has been flea allergy, some type of dermatitis, a possible heart murmur, her knees might need surgery, her kidneys and liver aren't working properly and possible brain damage because of one of the medicines she got and she's been getting iv fluids injected her her skin, she probably needs hospitalization and professional treatment in a dog hospital but my gf can't afford it anymore, she's been giving the dog the fluids herself and treating her \/ buying meds whenever she has a chance but it's getting more and more and more expensive, is there any way i can help her from where i am?  Some people don't get that but our dogs are like our children to us and we'd do anything to save their lives if we can.","c_root_id_A":"elq931b","c_root_id_B":"elpqt4w","created_at_utc_A":1556178462,"created_at_utc_B":1556161607,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I use the the quality of life scale available on the net i think its called HHHHHH OR something similar - recommed by good vets to help with you making such and and hard awful decision. , rationality..,","human_ref_B":"Look into care credit. It\u2019s how I was able to save my cat. It\u2019s basically a credit card that you can use at the vets.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16855.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ayzzxl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat was poisoned with dog flea ointment 2days ago. Can anyone give me some idea of what his future might be like? (Long, sorry) Cat | 5yrs old | Neutered | Tabby| 10lbs | No prior health issues | indoor\/outdoor cat | location: central Florida | was poisoned with dog flea ointment, also has chemical burns on tongue. The ingredients are: Permethrin 45% and S-methoprene 1.2% - 3mL tube. Will attach pic of tube and pics I took today of him.   Sergeant's silver flea and tick ointment for dogs https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/z7af4Fx  Milo 1 https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/WzPJBmv  Milo 2 https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/6wzXtzy  Any advice, help, words of encouragement or a reality check if needed are all appreciated. Explanation of events & questions below:   Ok so - I will do my best not to ramble and be as concise as possible. Please bear with me as I've gotten maybe 4hrs of sleep since this whole nightmare started. And please try to be kind, I feel like the absolute worst piece of human garbage and I know this entire thing is my fault.  I give my cat Milo OTC flea ointment every month but this time I mixed up the tubes. The only difference between the dog and cat tubes is a small sticker that is orange for dogs or purple for cats.   Ointment was put on @ ~11pm Tuesday night & when he never came back inside to go to bed I started to worry. I searched our entire 5acres but couldn't find him. It wasn't until about 9pm that my boyfriend went out and found him in a bush laying broadside shaking uncontrollably. The temperature was kinda cold outside that night - probably in the low 50s.  He rushed him inside and his mouth was filled with dirt\/leaves. I got all the debris out & sprayed his mouth out with water.  I called the only 2 vets in town only to be told they wont come to the office after hours & we needed to take him to the closest ER which was over 50miles away. We wrapped him up in a warm blanket & loaded him up in the car and flew to the clinic. Probably took me about 35-40mins max to get there. He arrived around 10:30pm.  They gave him a bath, diazepam, methocarbamol and put a bair heat blanket on him. They said he had a 50% shot at surviving the night but that I needed to leave & come back @730am to transfer him to a vet in my town since they close at 8am. I picked him up & the lady said he was still sedated & hooked to IV fluids but doing alright & most importantly he is regulating his own body temp and its normal. His chances of surviving are now about 75%. I was able to get him into a vet in my town and he has been there since.   Today when I went in for visiting hours he was awake and alert, able to urinate without a catheter and wasnt on fluids. His tongue looks 10x better, and he was purring like a maniac when he saw me. The tech said he ate almost a whole can of food that morning, and I fed him about half a can while I was there. He ate a little on his own but I had to use a syringe for the rest. He hadn't gotten up by that point the tech said but when I started loving on him he pulled himself up (very wobbly and shaking back legs) but was able to stand up some with my hands on his sides helping him to not wobble over. She seemed to think that was a really good sign. He was trying to climb all over me, nuzzling my face and purring constantly. My God listening to his purr and meow was like listening to angels sing. I feel so so so bad. Im so sorry.   The doc wasn't in when I was there and she said she doesn't know yet what his prognosis is looking like, and I'll have too see what doc says on Monday... so here I am grasping at straws trying to get an idea of what my baby's future might hold.   Is this something that could prevent him from ever walking unassisted again? Eating without assistance? Going potty unassisted? Could he still possibly die? Have I completely ruined my cats life & future with my unforgivable mistake?   They said it will be a few more days at least before he can come home. But that's all I know so far. I refuse to google anymore because there are mixed reviews and drastically different stories and I am just making myself crazier than I already am.   Is there anything else that I can do to help him? Has there ever been a cat that has symptoms similar to what Milo is suffering make a full recovery or live a somewhat normal kitty life after?   If you've read this far, thank you. I am grateful for any info you can give me. I am completely broken and beside myself. I can't stop thinking about how scared he is, how much pain he is in and how all of this is my fault.","c_root_id_A":"ei4r70c","c_root_id_B":"ei4qr9l","created_at_utc_A":1552127048,"created_at_utc_B":1552126252,"score_A":86,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"Cats can often recover very well from this toxicity. It just takes time.  It's something I see regularly, you're not the first and you won't be the last! This was a simple mix up and the tubes look stupidly similar. You're a great pet owner and you should go easier on yourself.","human_ref_B":"It was an accident, you cannot take on this level of blame.  I really hope your boy is feeling better, and I genuinely think you have gone above board with his emergency care.  Be kinder to yourself, you would have never done this on purpose!  Love your boy for all the rest of his days, you're doing right by him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":796.0,"score_ratio":2.2631578947}
{"post_id":"ayzzxl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat was poisoned with dog flea ointment 2days ago. Can anyone give me some idea of what his future might be like? (Long, sorry) Cat | 5yrs old | Neutered | Tabby| 10lbs | No prior health issues | indoor\/outdoor cat | location: central Florida | was poisoned with dog flea ointment, also has chemical burns on tongue. The ingredients are: Permethrin 45% and S-methoprene 1.2% - 3mL tube. Will attach pic of tube and pics I took today of him.   Sergeant's silver flea and tick ointment for dogs https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/z7af4Fx  Milo 1 https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/WzPJBmv  Milo 2 https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/6wzXtzy  Any advice, help, words of encouragement or a reality check if needed are all appreciated. Explanation of events & questions below:   Ok so - I will do my best not to ramble and be as concise as possible. Please bear with me as I've gotten maybe 4hrs of sleep since this whole nightmare started. And please try to be kind, I feel like the absolute worst piece of human garbage and I know this entire thing is my fault.  I give my cat Milo OTC flea ointment every month but this time I mixed up the tubes. The only difference between the dog and cat tubes is a small sticker that is orange for dogs or purple for cats.   Ointment was put on @ ~11pm Tuesday night & when he never came back inside to go to bed I started to worry. I searched our entire 5acres but couldn't find him. It wasn't until about 9pm that my boyfriend went out and found him in a bush laying broadside shaking uncontrollably. The temperature was kinda cold outside that night - probably in the low 50s.  He rushed him inside and his mouth was filled with dirt\/leaves. I got all the debris out & sprayed his mouth out with water.  I called the only 2 vets in town only to be told they wont come to the office after hours & we needed to take him to the closest ER which was over 50miles away. We wrapped him up in a warm blanket & loaded him up in the car and flew to the clinic. Probably took me about 35-40mins max to get there. He arrived around 10:30pm.  They gave him a bath, diazepam, methocarbamol and put a bair heat blanket on him. They said he had a 50% shot at surviving the night but that I needed to leave & come back @730am to transfer him to a vet in my town since they close at 8am. I picked him up & the lady said he was still sedated & hooked to IV fluids but doing alright & most importantly he is regulating his own body temp and its normal. His chances of surviving are now about 75%. I was able to get him into a vet in my town and he has been there since.   Today when I went in for visiting hours he was awake and alert, able to urinate without a catheter and wasnt on fluids. His tongue looks 10x better, and he was purring like a maniac when he saw me. The tech said he ate almost a whole can of food that morning, and I fed him about half a can while I was there. He ate a little on his own but I had to use a syringe for the rest. He hadn't gotten up by that point the tech said but when I started loving on him he pulled himself up (very wobbly and shaking back legs) but was able to stand up some with my hands on his sides helping him to not wobble over. She seemed to think that was a really good sign. He was trying to climb all over me, nuzzling my face and purring constantly. My God listening to his purr and meow was like listening to angels sing. I feel so so so bad. Im so sorry.   The doc wasn't in when I was there and she said she doesn't know yet what his prognosis is looking like, and I'll have too see what doc says on Monday... so here I am grasping at straws trying to get an idea of what my baby's future might hold.   Is this something that could prevent him from ever walking unassisted again? Eating without assistance? Going potty unassisted? Could he still possibly die? Have I completely ruined my cats life & future with my unforgivable mistake?   They said it will be a few more days at least before he can come home. But that's all I know so far. I refuse to google anymore because there are mixed reviews and drastically different stories and I am just making myself crazier than I already am.   Is there anything else that I can do to help him? Has there ever been a cat that has symptoms similar to what Milo is suffering make a full recovery or live a somewhat normal kitty life after?   If you've read this far, thank you. I am grateful for any info you can give me. I am completely broken and beside myself. I can't stop thinking about how scared he is, how much pain he is in and how all of this is my fault.","c_root_id_A":"ei4s9aa","c_root_id_B":"ei4qr9l","created_at_utc_A":1552129011,"created_at_utc_B":1552126252,"score_A":62,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"You drove your cat to the vet as soon as you found him unwell, that's what good pet owners do. Mistakes happen, do not blame yourself we 're not perfect. What matters is that you straight away got him the medical care he needed and that is what matters.","human_ref_B":"It was an accident, you cannot take on this level of blame.  I really hope your boy is feeling better, and I genuinely think you have gone above board with his emergency care.  Be kinder to yourself, you would have never done this on purpose!  Love your boy for all the rest of his days, you're doing right by him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2759.0,"score_ratio":1.6315789474}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0hp3y","c_root_id_B":"hs14p9a","created_at_utc_A":1641785833,"created_at_utc_B":1641796511,"score_A":21,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"This is a question for r\/relationships. You don\u2019t have a dog problem, you have a human one. Maybe she can switch the treats to normal kibble?","human_ref_B":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10678.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs14p9a","c_root_id_B":"hs11mfj","created_at_utc_A":1641796511,"created_at_utc_B":1641794745,"score_A":27,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","human_ref_B":"I don't understand the issue. Why is it bad to give dogs 4-6 treats a day? Are they large treats? Are they low quality? Are the dogs getting fat and unhealthy?  There are healthy, low fat, treats available for dogs, why not, instead of trying to convince your grandmother to stop giving them treats, you find something you would consider a better option?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1766.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs14p9a","c_root_id_B":"hs0oc1w","created_at_utc_A":1641796511,"created_at_utc_B":1641788656,"score_A":27,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","human_ref_B":"We switched to small or training treats as my daughter loves giving the puppies cookies. Maybe try to switch out the treats to something smaller or give kibble pieces as treats?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7855.0,"score_ratio":1.6875}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs14p9a","c_root_id_B":"hs13ha1","created_at_utc_A":1641796511,"created_at_utc_B":1641795791,"score_A":27,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","human_ref_B":"I think we need more information before giving feedback. Is this a concern of disrespect, training, weight, and are the treats biscuits or scraps? Fattening non healthy food?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":720.0,"score_ratio":5.4}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs14p9a","c_root_id_B":"hs0cjss","created_at_utc_A":1641796511,"created_at_utc_B":1641783688,"score_A":27,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","human_ref_B":"Honestly 4-6 treats per day doesn't seem that bad, depending on the treats used and the size of the dog, so more info would be needed there.  If the dogs are healthy but you're trying to be pro-active, then try to convince her to switch to healthier treats. A lot of dogs love baby carrots, which are a great, low calorie treat. That way she can still spoil them, but it's less likely to result in overindulgence. She can also use some of their kibble, just set it aside from their breakfast or dinner.  However, if the dogs are overweight, then a more comprehensive diet consultation with their vet may be in order.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12823.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0fpcx","c_root_id_B":"hs14p9a","created_at_utc_A":1641785000,"created_at_utc_B":1641796511,"score_A":3,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Hide the treats from them?","human_ref_B":"If the dogs are over weight my suggestion would be portion out an amount of their kibble and put it in a treat bag. Then she can feed them from their treat bag throughout the day\u2026 it may take some work to figure out how much to put in the treat bag but this way the animals won\u2019t get overfed and gma can continue to give treats like normal. Another option is calculate the kcal they are getting from the treats and deduct this from their primary diet. Example 1 treat is 50 kcal pet gets 350kcal\/day feed 300kcal for meal and 1 treat. Also some low calorie snacks are green beans, watermelon, lettuce,(carrots and apples are a little higher in calories but can work well too) especially if current treats are high in kcal. Main point if animals are not overweight there is no harm in giving the treats if they are over weight the above should help with weight gain and reduction. Also talk to your vet they can calculate ur pets kcal\/day for weight loss and weight maintenance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11511.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0hp3y","c_root_id_B":"hs11mfj","created_at_utc_A":1641785833,"created_at_utc_B":1641794745,"score_A":21,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"This is a question for r\/relationships. You don\u2019t have a dog problem, you have a human one. Maybe she can switch the treats to normal kibble?","human_ref_B":"I don't understand the issue. Why is it bad to give dogs 4-6 treats a day? Are they large treats? Are they low quality? Are the dogs getting fat and unhealthy?  There are healthy, low fat, treats available for dogs, why not, instead of trying to convince your grandmother to stop giving them treats, you find something you would consider a better option?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8912.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0cjss","c_root_id_B":"hs0hp3y","created_at_utc_A":1641783688,"created_at_utc_B":1641785833,"score_A":6,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Honestly 4-6 treats per day doesn't seem that bad, depending on the treats used and the size of the dog, so more info would be needed there.  If the dogs are healthy but you're trying to be pro-active, then try to convince her to switch to healthier treats. A lot of dogs love baby carrots, which are a great, low calorie treat. That way she can still spoil them, but it's less likely to result in overindulgence. She can also use some of their kibble, just set it aside from their breakfast or dinner.  However, if the dogs are overweight, then a more comprehensive diet consultation with their vet may be in order.","human_ref_B":"This is a question for r\/relationships. You don\u2019t have a dog problem, you have a human one. Maybe she can switch the treats to normal kibble?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2145.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0fpcx","c_root_id_B":"hs0hp3y","created_at_utc_A":1641785000,"created_at_utc_B":1641785833,"score_A":3,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Hide the treats from them?","human_ref_B":"This is a question for r\/relationships. You don\u2019t have a dog problem, you have a human one. Maybe she can switch the treats to normal kibble?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":833.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0oc1w","c_root_id_B":"hs11mfj","created_at_utc_A":1641788656,"created_at_utc_B":1641794745,"score_A":16,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"We switched to small or training treats as my daughter loves giving the puppies cookies. Maybe try to switch out the treats to something smaller or give kibble pieces as treats?","human_ref_B":"I don't understand the issue. Why is it bad to give dogs 4-6 treats a day? Are they large treats? Are they low quality? Are the dogs getting fat and unhealthy?  There are healthy, low fat, treats available for dogs, why not, instead of trying to convince your grandmother to stop giving them treats, you find something you would consider a better option?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6089.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs11mfj","c_root_id_B":"hs0cjss","created_at_utc_A":1641794745,"created_at_utc_B":1641783688,"score_A":24,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I don't understand the issue. Why is it bad to give dogs 4-6 treats a day? Are they large treats? Are they low quality? Are the dogs getting fat and unhealthy?  There are healthy, low fat, treats available for dogs, why not, instead of trying to convince your grandmother to stop giving them treats, you find something you would consider a better option?","human_ref_B":"Honestly 4-6 treats per day doesn't seem that bad, depending on the treats used and the size of the dog, so more info would be needed there.  If the dogs are healthy but you're trying to be pro-active, then try to convince her to switch to healthier treats. A lot of dogs love baby carrots, which are a great, low calorie treat. That way she can still spoil them, but it's less likely to result in overindulgence. She can also use some of their kibble, just set it aside from their breakfast or dinner.  However, if the dogs are overweight, then a more comprehensive diet consultation with their vet may be in order.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11057.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs11mfj","c_root_id_B":"hs0fpcx","created_at_utc_A":1641794745,"created_at_utc_B":1641785000,"score_A":24,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I don't understand the issue. Why is it bad to give dogs 4-6 treats a day? Are they large treats? Are they low quality? Are the dogs getting fat and unhealthy?  There are healthy, low fat, treats available for dogs, why not, instead of trying to convince your grandmother to stop giving them treats, you find something you would consider a better option?","human_ref_B":"Hide the treats from them?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9745.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0cjss","c_root_id_B":"hs0oc1w","created_at_utc_A":1641783688,"created_at_utc_B":1641788656,"score_A":6,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Honestly 4-6 treats per day doesn't seem that bad, depending on the treats used and the size of the dog, so more info would be needed there.  If the dogs are healthy but you're trying to be pro-active, then try to convince her to switch to healthier treats. A lot of dogs love baby carrots, which are a great, low calorie treat. That way she can still spoil them, but it's less likely to result in overindulgence. She can also use some of their kibble, just set it aside from their breakfast or dinner.  However, if the dogs are overweight, then a more comprehensive diet consultation with their vet may be in order.","human_ref_B":"We switched to small or training treats as my daughter loves giving the puppies cookies. Maybe try to switch out the treats to something smaller or give kibble pieces as treats?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4968.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs0oc1w","c_root_id_B":"hs0fpcx","created_at_utc_A":1641788656,"created_at_utc_B":1641785000,"score_A":16,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We switched to small or training treats as my daughter loves giving the puppies cookies. Maybe try to switch out the treats to something smaller or give kibble pieces as treats?","human_ref_B":"Hide the treats from them?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3656.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"s06p6v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Grandmother won\u2019t stop giving treats to the dogs Hi, so I\u2019m living with my grandparents atm and I keep getting upset by the amount of treats my Grandmother keeps giving their two dogs which are a Labrador X Spaniel and a Jack Russel X Staffy. I\u2019d say it can range from about 4-6 a day, there is always about 2 after each meal and then she just hands them out whenever she feels like it. Most of the time it\u2019s when the dogs are begging and she can\u2019t resist. Same goes for when we are eating our meal at the table. I\u2019ve known these dogs for a very long time and they are a big part of the family. We did own one of them for a short while in fact. This has been a problem for AGES but no one has been able to change it because she just won\u2019t listen and believes she is doing the right thing. She won\u2019t even listen to her daughter who is a veterinary nurse!   Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading.","c_root_id_A":"hs13ha1","c_root_id_B":"hs0fpcx","created_at_utc_A":1641795791,"created_at_utc_B":1641785000,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think we need more information before giving feedback. Is this a concern of disrespect, training, weight, and are the treats biscuits or scraps? Fattening non healthy food?","human_ref_B":"Hide the treats from them?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10791.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha0cc4y","c_root_id_B":"ha0b3uy","created_at_utc_A":1629706238,"created_at_utc_B":1629705165,"score_A":64,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Yes and no.  It depends on where you study and how they run their programme. A lot of *basic* animal anatomy and physiology is *similar* to humans, hence most universities will borrow staff from their medical faculty. However you aren't taught human anatomy and physiology specifically.  Bear in mind that there are also a hell of a lot of species differences which can prove fatal if you're on the wrong side of it. Human medical staff are massively over-represented in poisoning their pets when attempting to self medicate!  While theoretically it's possible there are massive logistic, ethical, legal and litigious issues associated with a vet operating on a human, even in an emergency. Currently a vet in such a situation would stand a very high chance of losing their license, even going to jail, even if things went well! The majority of these stories are myths or \"urban legends\", when you start to dig a little deeper.  There was talk of veterinarians being \"conscripted\" of sorts during the first Covid lockdown to shore up struggling medical trusts, needless to say the powers that be couldn't untangle the legal\/litigious quagmire, so they were only permitted to perform tests or give vaccines in certain areas.","human_ref_B":"Not required, but a lot of it is similar enough to be able to apply it in an emergency situation I figure. I don't think it's allowed tho, but maybe emergencies make leeway.  In my course, a lot of what we learned at the beginning was identical to the human med students since all mammals share a lot of communalities anatomy and physiology wise. The further you get in the course, the more animal specific it gets","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1073.0,"score_ratio":9.1428571429}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha15mdc","c_root_id_B":"ha1j20u","created_at_utc_A":1629726445,"created_at_utc_B":1629732360,"score_A":14,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Is it theoretically impossible? No, not really. But is it far, far more likely to have been a load of, well, manure? Yes. There are a few historical cases of veterinarians being called in to assist with something, or vice versa (case that comes to mind is a human cardiac surgeon that was brought in to operate on a gorilla, as no local veterinarians had the expertise and that's about as close to human as you can get in the vet world), but this is almost always as a consultant only. If this was 1921 not 2021 it'd be maybe a little more believable.","human_ref_B":"That's called practicing medicine without a license, so pardon me for doubting this story somewhat.  That being said, all mammals including humans are anatomical variations of a common theme, and really the only obvious parts of human anatomy that a veterinarian wouldn't be terribly familiar with are the hands and feet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5915.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha0b3uy","c_root_id_B":"ha1j20u","created_at_utc_A":1629705165,"created_at_utc_B":1629732360,"score_A":7,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Not required, but a lot of it is similar enough to be able to apply it in an emergency situation I figure. I don't think it's allowed tho, but maybe emergencies make leeway.  In my course, a lot of what we learned at the beginning was identical to the human med students since all mammals share a lot of communalities anatomy and physiology wise. The further you get in the course, the more animal specific it gets","human_ref_B":"That's called practicing medicine without a license, so pardon me for doubting this story somewhat.  That being said, all mammals including humans are anatomical variations of a common theme, and really the only obvious parts of human anatomy that a veterinarian wouldn't be terribly familiar with are the hands and feet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27195.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha0y9hm","c_root_id_B":"ha1j20u","created_at_utc_A":1629722731,"created_at_utc_B":1629732360,"score_A":3,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Not a veterinarian but years ago when I was in veterinary technician school they did not offer classes in veterinary anatomy or comparative anatomy and instead took classes on human anatomy and physiology which gave a foundation for what was needed","human_ref_B":"That's called practicing medicine without a license, so pardon me for doubting this story somewhat.  That being said, all mammals including humans are anatomical variations of a common theme, and really the only obvious parts of human anatomy that a veterinarian wouldn't be terribly familiar with are the hands and feet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9629.0,"score_ratio":7.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha1j20u","c_root_id_B":"ha1clo8","created_at_utc_A":1629732360,"created_at_utc_B":1629729606,"score_A":22,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"That's called practicing medicine without a license, so pardon me for doubting this story somewhat.  That being said, all mammals including humans are anatomical variations of a common theme, and really the only obvious parts of human anatomy that a veterinarian wouldn't be terribly familiar with are the hands and feet.","human_ref_B":"Never learned it in vet school (apart from the occasional for interest sake) but my first degree was science and one of my majors was human anatomy so I probably could in a pinch. Would I? Depends how life threatening I suppose...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2754.0,"score_ratio":7.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha0b3uy","c_root_id_B":"ha15mdc","created_at_utc_A":1629705165,"created_at_utc_B":1629726445,"score_A":7,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Not required, but a lot of it is similar enough to be able to apply it in an emergency situation I figure. I don't think it's allowed tho, but maybe emergencies make leeway.  In my course, a lot of what we learned at the beginning was identical to the human med students since all mammals share a lot of communalities anatomy and physiology wise. The further you get in the course, the more animal specific it gets","human_ref_B":"Is it theoretically impossible? No, not really. But is it far, far more likely to have been a load of, well, manure? Yes. There are a few historical cases of veterinarians being called in to assist with something, or vice versa (case that comes to mind is a human cardiac surgeon that was brought in to operate on a gorilla, as no local veterinarians had the expertise and that's about as close to human as you can get in the vet world), but this is almost always as a consultant only. If this was 1921 not 2021 it'd be maybe a little more believable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21280.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"p9uc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Are veterinarians required to also learn human anatomy? My cousin told our family he was visiting a rural area in the United States and a veterinarian performed an emergency appendectomy due to the nearest hospital being over 100 miles away. He had to have another surgery recently and the surgeon found a lot of scar tissue in his abdomen. He's also well known for embellishing stories, so no one knows when to take his word.     * Species: Human * Age: 50 * Sex\/Neuter status: M * Breed: Redneck * Body weight: 5'10 * History: NA * Clinical signs: Good * Duration: Huh? * Your general location: Memphis, TN USA * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: NA","c_root_id_A":"ha15mdc","c_root_id_B":"ha0y9hm","created_at_utc_A":1629726445,"created_at_utc_B":1629722731,"score_A":14,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is it theoretically impossible? No, not really. But is it far, far more likely to have been a load of, well, manure? Yes. There are a few historical cases of veterinarians being called in to assist with something, or vice versa (case that comes to mind is a human cardiac surgeon that was brought in to operate on a gorilla, as no local veterinarians had the expertise and that's about as close to human as you can get in the vet world), but this is almost always as a consultant only. If this was 1921 not 2021 it'd be maybe a little more believable.","human_ref_B":"Not a veterinarian but years ago when I was in veterinary technician school they did not offer classes in veterinary anatomy or comparative anatomy and instead took classes on human anatomy and physiology which gave a foundation for what was needed","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3714.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"hpc82d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dean, my cat, isn\u2019t doing well after surgery and I\u2019m worried! Cat Age: 2 years old  Gender: Male,neutered  Breed: Domestic medium hair  Weight: 5kg Has had chronic ear infection, went under surgery on 7\/10 to have total ear canal ablation (TECA)  We picked him on the the same day after the surgery. Since being home he is lethargic and doesn\u2019t want to eat, drink, use the litter box, he used the restroom on himself bc he can\u2019t get up. His eyes have been rapidly moving back an forth has become slower over time. He doesn\u2019t seem to be able to sleep much as well. He basically can\u2019t do anything for himself right now. He wants to lay down understandably. My concern is that the vet did not warn me on any of his symptoms after the surgery. Are these types of behaviors normal? Should I be concerned and take him to an emergency vet. I tried calling other vets but they all say they can\u2019t give any advice bc of the type of surgery.  I tried calling the establishment but they are closed and not answering the numbers given to us to call for questions.  We live in Nebraska,USA.","c_root_id_A":"fxpdg9l","c_root_id_B":"fxpdcqj","created_at_utc_A":1594487288,"created_at_utc_B":1594487260,"score_A":73,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"RVN here.   Take him to an ER vets.   Regardless of the fact that he is showing signs that could be explained as surgical complications, these are not normal and certainly not an outcome from treatment deemed successful.  He needs an exam and that any treatment or supportive care deemed necessary by the examining veterinary surgeons.   Good luck and hope he feels better soon","human_ref_B":"Is he on any medications right now?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28.0,"score_ratio":14.6}
{"post_id":"hpc82d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dean, my cat, isn\u2019t doing well after surgery and I\u2019m worried! Cat Age: 2 years old  Gender: Male,neutered  Breed: Domestic medium hair  Weight: 5kg Has had chronic ear infection, went under surgery on 7\/10 to have total ear canal ablation (TECA)  We picked him on the the same day after the surgery. Since being home he is lethargic and doesn\u2019t want to eat, drink, use the litter box, he used the restroom on himself bc he can\u2019t get up. His eyes have been rapidly moving back an forth has become slower over time. He doesn\u2019t seem to be able to sleep much as well. He basically can\u2019t do anything for himself right now. He wants to lay down understandably. My concern is that the vet did not warn me on any of his symptoms after the surgery. Are these types of behaviors normal? Should I be concerned and take him to an emergency vet. I tried calling other vets but they all say they can\u2019t give any advice bc of the type of surgery.  I tried calling the establishment but they are closed and not answering the numbers given to us to call for questions.  We live in Nebraska,USA.","c_root_id_A":"fxpdcqj","c_root_id_B":"fxpio20","created_at_utc_A":1594487260,"created_at_utc_B":1594488607,"score_A":5,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Is he on any medications right now?","human_ref_B":"Take him to the emerg if your vet isn\u2019t answering.  It\u2019s normal and expected for animals to be \u201cnot themselves\u201d for ~24 hours following a general anesthetic however more serious complications can also occur. He should be assessed by a vet ASAP to determine if he is in need of any further treatment\/care. Good luck with him!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1347.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"hpc82d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dean, my cat, isn\u2019t doing well after surgery and I\u2019m worried! Cat Age: 2 years old  Gender: Male,neutered  Breed: Domestic medium hair  Weight: 5kg Has had chronic ear infection, went under surgery on 7\/10 to have total ear canal ablation (TECA)  We picked him on the the same day after the surgery. Since being home he is lethargic and doesn\u2019t want to eat, drink, use the litter box, he used the restroom on himself bc he can\u2019t get up. His eyes have been rapidly moving back an forth has become slower over time. He doesn\u2019t seem to be able to sleep much as well. He basically can\u2019t do anything for himself right now. He wants to lay down understandably. My concern is that the vet did not warn me on any of his symptoms after the surgery. Are these types of behaviors normal? Should I be concerned and take him to an emergency vet. I tried calling other vets but they all say they can\u2019t give any advice bc of the type of surgery.  I tried calling the establishment but they are closed and not answering the numbers given to us to call for questions.  We live in Nebraska,USA.","c_root_id_A":"fxpdcqj","c_root_id_B":"fxq9w1l","created_at_utc_A":1594487260,"created_at_utc_B":1594494978,"score_A":5,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Is he on any medications right now?","human_ref_B":"Any update, OP?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7718.0,"score_ratio":3.6}
{"post_id":"h8nakb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My bichone got old all the sudden :((    I think my dog is slowly dying . I was hugging her crying last 15 minutes . She is 10 years old and she was happy running , petting etc until 3 months ago . Then she gained 2-3 pounds all the sudden and become less active . Much less . We took her to vet , did all exams and everything was good . We then put her on diet for the last 2 months giving her food only in the morning and night . She didn't lose any weight and she is keep bumping more and more into the furniture and walls . I just took her out and she got her head on big rock that was in front of her :(( she is breathing heavy and can't even find the way to our bedroom :(( it all happened really fast from being active and happy to be this old . In just few months :((","c_root_id_A":"fuswtis","c_root_id_B":"fusx11v","created_at_utc_A":1592144887,"created_at_utc_B":1592145016,"score_A":10,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"What's your question?  As I read this, your dog hit her head on a rock and is disoriented. If that is correct, you need to take her to the ER NOW.","human_ref_B":"Keep looking into her issues. Many senior dogs can live happy and healthy lives even with some eye or hearing issues. You said she was on a diet, but is she on a senior specific food? Senior foods tend to be for less active dogs and may help as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":129.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"h8nakb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My bichone got old all the sudden :((    I think my dog is slowly dying . I was hugging her crying last 15 minutes . She is 10 years old and she was happy running , petting etc until 3 months ago . Then she gained 2-3 pounds all the sudden and become less active . Much less . We took her to vet , did all exams and everything was good . We then put her on diet for the last 2 months giving her food only in the morning and night . She didn't lose any weight and she is keep bumping more and more into the furniture and walls . I just took her out and she got her head on big rock that was in front of her :(( she is breathing heavy and can't even find the way to our bedroom :(( it all happened really fast from being active and happy to be this old . In just few months :((","c_root_id_A":"fuswtis","c_root_id_B":"fusyiaf","created_at_utc_A":1592144887,"created_at_utc_B":1592145921,"score_A":10,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"What's your question?  As I read this, your dog hit her head on a rock and is disoriented. If that is correct, you need to take her to the ER NOW.","human_ref_B":"Recommend going to the ER after head trauma.  Recommend performing extensive bloodwork with regards to everything else going on including CBC, Chem, Thyroid panel. Sudden weight gain can be due to hormonal imbalances for example and doing bloodwork can help look for evidence.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1034.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"bmlvdz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Should I shave my Chow-husky for the summer? Hey guys!  My husband and I rescued a chow-husky mix last July. When we got him, he was almost completely shaved, and covered in scars and chunks of hair missing. The animal shelter had an idea he was a chow mix because of his blue tongue, but wasn\u2019t sure because of how he looked brought in. Fast forward almost a year later, his fluffy hair grew out and he is quite a furry chow-husky mix. Here is a picture of the good boy for reference.  We live in Georgia and the summers here are brutal. We have taken him out on warm days to shaded patios for burgers and he didn\u2019t seem bothered, but people walking by always make comments; I.e: \u201cfluffy dog on a hot day, huh...?\u201d Or the classic \u201cman this summer is gonna be hard for him.\u201d. I have read an article on a chow breeder sight saying not to shave down their Fir because it acts as a insulation from heat and protection from sunburn, which they are prone to. We don\u2019t take him out for hikes or anything because he is an old boy (9 years old) and he would rather lounge inside.   I\u2019m confused on what to do... any advice would be amazing! Thank you!   Informations requested of this sub:  Species-Dog Age- 9 (the shelter estimate) Sex- Male, neutered  Breed- Chow-Husky mix (to our knowledge)  Body weight- 68lbs History- stray for 4 years and known to have had ring worm. Other than that, no other issues known.  Clinical signs- being fluffy Duration- almost a year of full hair growth?  General location - Atlanta area, GA Link - find link in comments above for a picture of the most handsome boy you\u2019ve ever laid eyes on.","c_root_id_A":"emxkldp","c_root_id_B":"emym32s","created_at_utc_A":1557419272,"created_at_utc_B":1557439382,"score_A":2,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Am groomer. While an unpopular opinion, ppl shave 2x coated dogs all the time. \"Shaving\" does not always imply that the skin will be exposed. In severe cases blades are used that would indeed expose the skin, but that is never the goal. There are also options to go shorter that don't require going so short. There are guard combs to achieve longer lengths. As long as the matting isn't super severe. Leaving mats because \"it'll damage the coat\" is far more detrimental to the overall well being of the pet. As far as damaging the coat, in my 14 years of experience(in GA)  the only dogs that do struggle are the elders. And it's not that their coat didn't come back, it just took a while. With proper bathing and brushing during the grow back phase, all should be well. Take care of the skin, and the coat will reflect that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20110.0,"score_ratio":13.0}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhiv18","c_root_id_B":"hlhk5p2","created_at_utc_A":1637481529,"created_at_utc_B":1637482477,"score_A":103,"score_B":225,"human_ref_A":"ER visit, now. Oh and your husband is way off. Cats don\u2019t pee blood when they are stressed (sounds more like he is trying to justify not taking the cat now).","human_ref_B":"Imagine it was you feeling this pain, with urine in your blood, a fracture, and the one person that can help you won't. Our pets depend on us 100%. PLEASE TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":948.0,"score_ratio":2.1844660194}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhaapg","c_root_id_B":"hlhk5p2","created_at_utc_A":1637475307,"created_at_utc_B":1637482477,"score_A":96,"score_B":225,"human_ref_A":"ER!!!","human_ref_B":"Imagine it was you feeling this pain, with urine in your blood, a fracture, and the one person that can help you won't. Our pets depend on us 100%. PLEASE TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7170.0,"score_ratio":2.34375}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhk5p2","c_root_id_B":"hlhcdbd","created_at_utc_A":1637482477,"created_at_utc_B":1637476786,"score_A":225,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"Imagine it was you feeling this pain, with urine in your blood, a fracture, and the one person that can help you won't. Our pets depend on us 100%. PLEASE TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY.","human_ref_B":"A regular vet will most likely be referring you to an ER so skip a step and go right there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5691.0,"score_ratio":3.8793103448}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhcb0l","c_root_id_B":"hlhk5p2","created_at_utc_A":1637476740,"created_at_utc_B":1637482477,"score_A":57,"score_B":225,"human_ref_A":"Definitely take him ASAP!","human_ref_B":"Imagine it was you feeling this pain, with urine in your blood, a fracture, and the one person that can help you won't. Our pets depend on us 100%. PLEASE TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5737.0,"score_ratio":3.9473684211}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhaapg","c_root_id_B":"hlhiv18","created_at_utc_A":1637475307,"created_at_utc_B":1637481529,"score_A":96,"score_B":103,"human_ref_A":"ER!!!","human_ref_B":"ER visit, now. Oh and your husband is way off. Cats don\u2019t pee blood when they are stressed (sounds more like he is trying to justify not taking the cat now).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6222.0,"score_ratio":1.0729166667}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhiv18","c_root_id_B":"hlhcdbd","created_at_utc_A":1637481529,"created_at_utc_B":1637476786,"score_A":103,"score_B":58,"human_ref_A":"ER visit, now. Oh and your husband is way off. Cats don\u2019t pee blood when they are stressed (sounds more like he is trying to justify not taking the cat now).","human_ref_B":"A regular vet will most likely be referring you to an ER so skip a step and go right there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4743.0,"score_ratio":1.775862069}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhiv18","c_root_id_B":"hlhcb0l","created_at_utc_A":1637481529,"created_at_utc_B":1637476740,"score_A":103,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"ER visit, now. Oh and your husband is way off. Cats don\u2019t pee blood when they are stressed (sounds more like he is trying to justify not taking the cat now).","human_ref_B":"Definitely take him ASAP!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4789.0,"score_ratio":1.8070175439}
{"post_id":"qyoktf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Please HELP I think my cat was hit by car??? My cat got out last night. I found him this morning, in my yard, with a broken foot. Like his foot is completely limp and can\u2019t be used. He also is a verrrry vocal cat. He\u2019s like one of my toddlers sometimes lol. But he has barely meowed at all today. He is peeing blood. Very little urine, but some still. Blood in urine and then he sits in peeing position for like 4 minutes and every so often a drop of blood will come out. :( I\u2019ve given him an old script of his for pain. And he ate one of those small pur\u00e9ed cat treats but still won\u2019t drink water. This is my baby boy, so I guess I\u2019m just looking for advice, but honest advice. My husband is playing it off like it\u2019s stress causing the blood, and we will take him first thing in the morning, but should I wait??? I don\u2019t have the funds for an er visit, but if it is necessary I will. \ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f\ud83d\ude3f","c_root_id_A":"hlhcdbd","c_root_id_B":"hlhcb0l","created_at_utc_A":1637476786,"created_at_utc_B":1637476740,"score_A":58,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"A regular vet will most likely be referring you to an ER so skip a step and go right there.","human_ref_B":"Definitely take him ASAP!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":46.0,"score_ratio":1.0175438596}
{"post_id":"ol79rm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"We paid a significant amount of money for emergency vet services and the dog passed away 20 minutes later. My dog was seen by an emergency service pet hospital today. The hospital ran blood tests and determined that she needed a transfusion due to the possibility of her having consumed rat poison. They admitted her and in less than 20 minutes we got a call that she had passed away. They had required that we pay for an estimate of services before the admission and treatment and the total came out to $2400 dollars. I don\u2019t want to screw them out of money for the services provided because they were really phenomenal with service but they were pretty sure at the time that she would pull through and for her to pass 20 minutes later feels like there wasn\u2019t much of a shot at all. Is there recourse or anything that I can do to see what if any services that we paid for were not given? For us it is money we were more than willing to pay and I understand if there is nothing we can do but it was a significant portion of our savings. I\u2019m just at a loss right now and the money aspect just makes me feel worse.","c_root_id_A":"h5cnlo6","c_root_id_B":"h5cqy7h","created_at_utc_A":1626402559,"created_at_utc_B":1626404376,"score_A":18,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you are going through that. My only suggestion is to ask if they are able to come down on the bill at all. There is the Care Credit card, too. Don't screw over the people that tried to save your baby. They were doing everything they could to help.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re going thru this. Call them and ask for an itemized invoice and be polite. They very likely are planning to refund you some money if I had to guess.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1817.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ol79rm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"We paid a significant amount of money for emergency vet services and the dog passed away 20 minutes later. My dog was seen by an emergency service pet hospital today. The hospital ran blood tests and determined that she needed a transfusion due to the possibility of her having consumed rat poison. They admitted her and in less than 20 minutes we got a call that she had passed away. They had required that we pay for an estimate of services before the admission and treatment and the total came out to $2400 dollars. I don\u2019t want to screw them out of money for the services provided because they were really phenomenal with service but they were pretty sure at the time that she would pull through and for her to pass 20 minutes later feels like there wasn\u2019t much of a shot at all. Is there recourse or anything that I can do to see what if any services that we paid for were not given? For us it is money we were more than willing to pay and I understand if there is nothing we can do but it was a significant portion of our savings. I\u2019m just at a loss right now and the money aspect just makes me feel worse.","c_root_id_A":"h5cnlo6","c_root_id_B":"h5crtpc","created_at_utc_A":1626402559,"created_at_utc_B":1626404849,"score_A":18,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you are going through that. My only suggestion is to ask if they are able to come down on the bill at all. There is the Care Credit card, too. Don't screw over the people that tried to save your baby. They were doing everything they could to help.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry for your loss and that you're having to go through this.    Sadly, once services are rendered there isn't really a way to cut costs from it unless they want to just waive certain fees. Keep in mind that a bulk on that cost most likely came from blood products that aren't usable once opened\/thawed\/partially used\/ etc, so there isn't a way to get around them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2290.0,"score_ratio":1.0555555556}
{"post_id":"l7om81","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat always acts like I'm starving him! Hello r\/AskVet,  I have a wonderful 9mo black cat named Zeke that I adopted in September. About a week after getting him (I suspect this has to do with him getting comfortable with me!) I noticed he \\*always\\* very forcefully tried to eat food off my plate, wrappers out of the trash, opened my pantry doors, etc.     It breaks my heart, but I started crating him in another room while we're cooking or eating after about two weeks of simple nos not working. He has learned to jump and open my lever doors. (I am in a rental and can't get knobs) He goes for really weird things too. Cold butter, raw potatoes, ramen noodles, candy, etc.     He used to have off and on diarrhea (which was probably caused by what he got into) but nothing in months. I am not starving him. I feed him what the cans recommended for his weight. He is exclusively fed canned wet food. The only thing that's weird about him is that he pees a large quantity at a normal frequency, but I'm used to kibble fed cats. He's on the higher end of what I'd like condition wise. Good muscle tone. No temperament issues. To quote my vet \"He has the shiniest hair I've seen in a while.\"     Is the crating in another room okay? It won't harm him more than anything he could get into, I imagine. Is there anything that could be medically wrong that I need to make an appointment for?     Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"gl8rd4y","c_root_id_B":"gl8rlss","created_at_utc_A":1611932615,"created_at_utc_B":1611932697,"score_A":6,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"I've had luck with baby safety products.  I latch our cabinet doors shut. Have a scaaaat sprayer near our trash can to spook him away. And there are even lever door handle toddler locks. These are all rental safe.  You can also upgrade your trash can to the foot pedal type thats harder for him to get into.","human_ref_B":"The intense appetite coupled with the peeing a large volume is a reason to get a blood panel done if you haven\u2019t already.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":82.0,"score_ratio":12.1666666667}
{"post_id":"l7om81","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat always acts like I'm starving him! Hello r\/AskVet,  I have a wonderful 9mo black cat named Zeke that I adopted in September. About a week after getting him (I suspect this has to do with him getting comfortable with me!) I noticed he \\*always\\* very forcefully tried to eat food off my plate, wrappers out of the trash, opened my pantry doors, etc.     It breaks my heart, but I started crating him in another room while we're cooking or eating after about two weeks of simple nos not working. He has learned to jump and open my lever doors. (I am in a rental and can't get knobs) He goes for really weird things too. Cold butter, raw potatoes, ramen noodles, candy, etc.     He used to have off and on diarrhea (which was probably caused by what he got into) but nothing in months. I am not starving him. I feed him what the cans recommended for his weight. He is exclusively fed canned wet food. The only thing that's weird about him is that he pees a large quantity at a normal frequency, but I'm used to kibble fed cats. He's on the higher end of what I'd like condition wise. Good muscle tone. No temperament issues. To quote my vet \"He has the shiniest hair I've seen in a while.\"     Is the crating in another room okay? It won't harm him more than anything he could get into, I imagine. Is there anything that could be medically wrong that I need to make an appointment for?     Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"gl8rd4y","c_root_id_B":"gl8spz5","created_at_utc_A":1611932615,"created_at_utc_B":1611933080,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I've had luck with baby safety products.  I latch our cabinet doors shut. Have a scaaaat sprayer near our trash can to spook him away. And there are even lever door handle toddler locks. These are all rental safe.  You can also upgrade your trash can to the foot pedal type thats harder for him to get into.","human_ref_B":"Some conditions can make cats want food more. You could talk to your vet to make sure nothing medical is wrong. Although wet food is good for them, I would recommend you get him on a dental specific kibble diet in addition to the canned food. His teeth will thank you and it will put off an expensive dental cleaning.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":465.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"i5hgkh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can dogs get cancer for taking too many sun baths?","c_root_id_A":"g0pd9ia","c_root_id_B":"g0ponff","created_at_utc_A":1596823113,"created_at_utc_B":1596828507,"score_A":27,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"The most imminent threat is the very real danger of heatstroke. Mortality rate is huge for dogs who dont receive treatment immediately and even then, it can cause brain damage, organ damage and even death.","human_ref_B":"Dogs with light skin and light fur are more at risk for developing skin cancer, especially around hairless areas like the belly.  Id like to clarify - ANY dog is at risk for skin cancer, but just be vigilant\/thorough at checking your dog all over regularly for any new lumps or bumps, and partnering with your vet to have new bumps examined!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5394.0,"score_ratio":1.5185185185}
{"post_id":"i5hgkh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can dogs get cancer for taking too many sun baths?","c_root_id_A":"g0ponff","c_root_id_B":"g0poiw0","created_at_utc_A":1596828507,"created_at_utc_B":1596828446,"score_A":41,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Dogs with light skin and light fur are more at risk for developing skin cancer, especially around hairless areas like the belly.  Id like to clarify - ANY dog is at risk for skin cancer, but just be vigilant\/thorough at checking your dog all over regularly for any new lumps or bumps, and partnering with your vet to have new bumps examined!","human_ref_B":"Yes, especially if they have thin, light colored coats. Dogs can develop melanoma and other kinds of cancers from UV radiation just like people can. For my patients who\u2019ve had it, I recommend they wear T-shirts when they\u2019re outside and for their owners to (reasonably) limit their time in direct sunlight.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":61.0,"score_ratio":2.4117647059}
{"post_id":"d4ra87","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My Dog was bitten by a rabid coyote. So this morning my Rottweiler mix ran away into the woods and I chased after him. He attacked a coyote we saw at the distance and the coyote fought back. My dog \u201cwon\u201d the fight but the coyote was behaving very strangely after the fight got over. It was salivating like crazy and behaving very weird like walking with an arched back.  Anyway I tried to shoo the coyote away and it wasn\u2019t retreating. Luckily there was enough space by that time between the coyote and us so I secured my dog and carried it back. I last saw the coyote running in circles.  He was bitten by the coyote below the neck and I cleaned the wound with soap and hot water and even applied alcohol on the bite.  My dog has been vaccinated and all his rabies doses are up to date so will he be alright? Should I still take him to the vet?   I don\u2019t actually have pet insurance and am not doing great financially right now so am a bit worried about the costs.","c_root_id_A":"f0flaou","c_root_id_B":"f0fmkll","created_at_utc_A":1568585208,"created_at_utc_B":1568585801,"score_A":126,"score_B":186,"human_ref_A":"Yes you need to take him to the vet ASAP for a rabies booster and to have the wound addressed. Rabies is 100% fatal and you dog can die (even if previously vaccinated). You and anybody else in close contact with your dog can die too if rabies is transmitted. You should also report what happened to your local government animal control service   PS - never, ever use alcohol to clean a wound. You are lucky your dog didn't bite you.","human_ref_B":"It is very important that your dog is taken to your vet today to have the wounds properly evaluated and to receive a rabies vaccination booster.  Rabies is rare in vaccinated dogs, so well done for keeping him up to date. However, since the disease is so serious we always recommend a post-exposure booster.  Bite wounds are notorious for only looking like a small puncture. But since the skin can move over the underlying tissue, the underlying damage can be worse than it appears from the outside.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":593.0,"score_ratio":1.4761904762}
{"post_id":"d4ra87","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My Dog was bitten by a rabid coyote. So this morning my Rottweiler mix ran away into the woods and I chased after him. He attacked a coyote we saw at the distance and the coyote fought back. My dog \u201cwon\u201d the fight but the coyote was behaving very strangely after the fight got over. It was salivating like crazy and behaving very weird like walking with an arched back.  Anyway I tried to shoo the coyote away and it wasn\u2019t retreating. Luckily there was enough space by that time between the coyote and us so I secured my dog and carried it back. I last saw the coyote running in circles.  He was bitten by the coyote below the neck and I cleaned the wound with soap and hot water and even applied alcohol on the bite.  My dog has been vaccinated and all his rabies doses are up to date so will he be alright? Should I still take him to the vet?   I don\u2019t actually have pet insurance and am not doing great financially right now so am a bit worried about the costs.","c_root_id_A":"f0g5zw6","c_root_id_B":"f0flaou","created_at_utc_A":1568594238,"created_at_utc_B":1568585208,"score_A":131,"score_B":126,"human_ref_A":"You absolutely need to call and report this to animal control. That coyote needs to be caught and euthanized before it attacks anyone else.","human_ref_B":"Yes you need to take him to the vet ASAP for a rabies booster and to have the wound addressed. Rabies is 100% fatal and you dog can die (even if previously vaccinated). You and anybody else in close contact with your dog can die too if rabies is transmitted. You should also report what happened to your local government animal control service   PS - never, ever use alcohol to clean a wound. You are lucky your dog didn't bite you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9030.0,"score_ratio":1.0396825397}
{"post_id":"d4ra87","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My Dog was bitten by a rabid coyote. So this morning my Rottweiler mix ran away into the woods and I chased after him. He attacked a coyote we saw at the distance and the coyote fought back. My dog \u201cwon\u201d the fight but the coyote was behaving very strangely after the fight got over. It was salivating like crazy and behaving very weird like walking with an arched back.  Anyway I tried to shoo the coyote away and it wasn\u2019t retreating. Luckily there was enough space by that time between the coyote and us so I secured my dog and carried it back. I last saw the coyote running in circles.  He was bitten by the coyote below the neck and I cleaned the wound with soap and hot water and even applied alcohol on the bite.  My dog has been vaccinated and all his rabies doses are up to date so will he be alright? Should I still take him to the vet?   I don\u2019t actually have pet insurance and am not doing great financially right now so am a bit worried about the costs.","c_root_id_A":"f0hi10q","c_root_id_B":"f0gl4z3","created_at_utc_A":1568622387,"created_at_utc_B":1568601543,"score_A":11,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"OP- Rabies = death. Not sick, real sick, or need IV antibiotics. You (or un\/under vaccinated pet) have no options.","human_ref_B":"Do what others have said here. Also unless you have money up front\/a credit card pet insurance usually is not very helpful as you pay 100% first and they refund you a small portion later. Look into carecredit.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20844.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"b4r44t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Tonight my cat died She was 7 yrs old, FIV+ but otherwise healthy. Has not been outside in over a year since we had the diagnosis. No signs of illness or unusual behaviour at all, even today. She was just her normal self, eating as normal, drinking and toileting. She had just gone upstairs away from the vacuum cleaner but then when I was done she decided to come back down. This was a matter of under 5 minutes   She collapsed as she was coming downstairs, took a tumble and landed on her side. She was making like a groaning sound, but very briefly - it may have been just before or after she fell. She wasn't able to move and was having trouble breathing. I checked her airway and there was no blockage. Her gums were very pale and her pupils were fixed. She had a pulse, but she was just fading. Not knowing cat CPR I tried to help her as much as I could but within about 1 or 2 minutes she was gone.  There was no more I could have done, no way any vet visit could have saved her. I couldn't have foreseen it at all. Can someone help give me some closure by suggesting how this could have happened?","c_root_id_A":"ej8vf7n","c_root_id_B":"ej8uv87","created_at_utc_A":1553401521,"created_at_utc_B":1553400944,"score_A":24,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry your baby is gone, what you described sounded traumatic and I feel terrible you went through that. I know he was very happy you were there with him though.   I have no idea what could have caused it, but I do know that cats are EXTREMELY stoic, it\u2019s incredibly difficult to tell how healthy they are by their behavior. So this may have been something going on for a while but your kitty hid it from you. It\u2019s almost like a super power IMO, but not a good one for cat owners.","human_ref_B":"Necropsy is your best choice given no other information.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":577.0,"score_ratio":1.0434782609}
{"post_id":"7qh5l9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Whaaaaaaaat is my dog's vagina doing? Species: Dog  Age: 3 yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Spayed female  Breed: Great Dane  Body weight: 110  History: Both her regular vet and the surgeon who spayed her referred to her as one of the healthiest Great Danes they had ever encountered.  Location: Greater Seattle area  Sometimes, maybe every couple of months, my beloved dog will let out some goo from her ladybits. It's not, like, a ton of goo. It's kind of slimy and gray\/green. We call it the Vag Sneeze. It has always happened and never coincided with any other symptoms. She doesn't even seem to notice it.  Now how that is possible, I could not tell you. Because while it may be small and intermittent, Vag Sneeze has another quality that is not so benign. Vag Sneeze is accompanied by a smell. A strong smell. A potent, unholy, pervasive odor to which my body responds like it is in physical danger. When the first whiff of it hit us, once, my boyfriend yanked right on the wheel and up on the parking break and we both dove from the car with it probably still moving a little. As I write this, I'm quite literally barricaded in my room, having closed the door as my first action and then run outside, taken deep breaths, and gone back in for a cleanup mission taken only in stages that could be completed without oxygen. When it was done, I used my last breath to empty a can of febreeze in the living room, open a window, and get myself in here. I will not under any circumstances be leaving again until morning.  I need an explanation. I need an action I can take. If I don't get help from you I'm calling a fucking exorcist.","c_root_id_A":"dsp6sru","c_root_id_B":"dsp6jiv","created_at_utc_A":1515990379,"created_at_utc_B":1515990012,"score_A":87,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I need you to know this is hilarious.   However, no hoohah without it's accompanying parts should be leaking demons and, unless you've shoved a Ouija board up there, I don't have any solid clues. Positive it's not anal glands? You should have a licensed veterinary exorcist splash some holy water up there.","human_ref_B":"What did the vet say? Green, malodorous discharge from the vulva is not normal and should be examined by a vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":367.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"7qh5l9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Whaaaaaaaat is my dog's vagina doing? Species: Dog  Age: 3 yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Spayed female  Breed: Great Dane  Body weight: 110  History: Both her regular vet and the surgeon who spayed her referred to her as one of the healthiest Great Danes they had ever encountered.  Location: Greater Seattle area  Sometimes, maybe every couple of months, my beloved dog will let out some goo from her ladybits. It's not, like, a ton of goo. It's kind of slimy and gray\/green. We call it the Vag Sneeze. It has always happened and never coincided with any other symptoms. She doesn't even seem to notice it.  Now how that is possible, I could not tell you. Because while it may be small and intermittent, Vag Sneeze has another quality that is not so benign. Vag Sneeze is accompanied by a smell. A strong smell. A potent, unholy, pervasive odor to which my body responds like it is in physical danger. When the first whiff of it hit us, once, my boyfriend yanked right on the wheel and up on the parking break and we both dove from the car with it probably still moving a little. As I write this, I'm quite literally barricaded in my room, having closed the door as my first action and then run outside, taken deep breaths, and gone back in for a cleanup mission taken only in stages that could be completed without oxygen. When it was done, I used my last breath to empty a can of febreeze in the living room, open a window, and get myself in here. I will not under any circumstances be leaving again until morning.  I need an explanation. I need an action I can take. If I don't get help from you I'm calling a fucking exorcist.","c_root_id_A":"dsp7fv2","c_root_id_B":"dsp6jiv","created_at_utc_A":1515991316,"created_at_utc_B":1515990012,"score_A":32,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Are you 100% sure it's from her vulva and not anal glands? The smell sounds like an anal gland issue.","human_ref_B":"What did the vet say? Green, malodorous discharge from the vulva is not normal and should be examined by a vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1304.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"7qh5l9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Whaaaaaaaat is my dog's vagina doing? Species: Dog  Age: 3 yrs  Sex\/Neuter status: Spayed female  Breed: Great Dane  Body weight: 110  History: Both her regular vet and the surgeon who spayed her referred to her as one of the healthiest Great Danes they had ever encountered.  Location: Greater Seattle area  Sometimes, maybe every couple of months, my beloved dog will let out some goo from her ladybits. It's not, like, a ton of goo. It's kind of slimy and gray\/green. We call it the Vag Sneeze. It has always happened and never coincided with any other symptoms. She doesn't even seem to notice it.  Now how that is possible, I could not tell you. Because while it may be small and intermittent, Vag Sneeze has another quality that is not so benign. Vag Sneeze is accompanied by a smell. A strong smell. A potent, unholy, pervasive odor to which my body responds like it is in physical danger. When the first whiff of it hit us, once, my boyfriend yanked right on the wheel and up on the parking break and we both dove from the car with it probably still moving a little. As I write this, I'm quite literally barricaded in my room, having closed the door as my first action and then run outside, taken deep breaths, and gone back in for a cleanup mission taken only in stages that could be completed without oxygen. When it was done, I used my last breath to empty a can of febreeze in the living room, open a window, and get myself in here. I will not under any circumstances be leaving again until morning.  I need an explanation. I need an action I can take. If I don't get help from you I'm calling a fucking exorcist.","c_root_id_A":"dsph9eo","c_root_id_B":"dsp6jiv","created_at_utc_A":1516011081,"created_at_utc_B":1515990012,"score_A":22,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Can\u2019t wait to hear your response. I\u2019m guessing 100% anal gland expression","human_ref_B":"What did the vet say? Green, malodorous discharge from the vulva is not normal and should be examined by a vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21069.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijec1ds","c_root_id_B":"ijg49gn","created_at_utc_A":1659929662,"created_at_utc_B":1659970041,"score_A":57,"score_B":119,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss. It\u2019s difficult to accept since this wasn\u2019t the outcome you where hoping for but you and her may not have done anything wrong. Just as humans have stillborns so do other mammals. Cats are baby making machines! Their bodies are very good at adapting to pregnancy and birth. Something in her pregnancy may have played a role. Call\/see your vet and explain what happened. They may be able to give better advice and guidance for her next pregnancy or advise you spay her.","human_ref_B":"When her body has healed from the trauma of birth, please get her spayed. In the meantime if it's just happened, and your vet says she's healthy and producing milk, you may be able to ask local rescues if there are any kittens that were just born in need of a mother. Keep in mind these wouldn't be your kittens unless you decide to adopt, and the rescue will be making sure that you are following their protocol, but if you and your cat are approved this may help your cats grief.  Also keep in mind your cat may reject the new babies, it's nothing against you or her, it just happens sometimes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":40379.0,"score_ratio":2.0877192982}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijfym0v","c_root_id_B":"ijg49gn","created_at_utc_A":1659967694,"created_at_utc_B":1659970041,"score_A":50,"score_B":119,"human_ref_A":"Contact a local shelter and ask see if they have any kittens that need fostering. As heartbreaking as it is, you are now likely in the perfect place to help raise some orphaned kittens, and shelters are always looking for people to help foster.","human_ref_B":"When her body has healed from the trauma of birth, please get her spayed. In the meantime if it's just happened, and your vet says she's healthy and producing milk, you may be able to ask local rescues if there are any kittens that were just born in need of a mother. Keep in mind these wouldn't be your kittens unless you decide to adopt, and the rescue will be making sure that you are following their protocol, but if you and your cat are approved this may help your cats grief.  Also keep in mind your cat may reject the new babies, it's nothing against you or her, it just happens sometimes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2347.0,"score_ratio":2.38}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijg49gn","c_root_id_B":"ijewer4","created_at_utc_A":1659970041,"created_at_utc_B":1659943091,"score_A":119,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"When her body has healed from the trauma of birth, please get her spayed. In the meantime if it's just happened, and your vet says she's healthy and producing milk, you may be able to ask local rescues if there are any kittens that were just born in need of a mother. Keep in mind these wouldn't be your kittens unless you decide to adopt, and the rescue will be making sure that you are following their protocol, but if you and your cat are approved this may help your cats grief.  Also keep in mind your cat may reject the new babies, it's nothing against you or her, it just happens sometimes.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s not your fault. This is just something unfortunate that happens in nature. It\u2019s ridiculous of your neighbours to blame you. Don\u2019t listen to them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26950.0,"score_ratio":2.7045454545}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijg49gn","c_root_id_B":"ijfk69x","created_at_utc_A":1659970041,"created_at_utc_B":1659960815,"score_A":119,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"When her body has healed from the trauma of birth, please get her spayed. In the meantime if it's just happened, and your vet says she's healthy and producing milk, you may be able to ask local rescues if there are any kittens that were just born in need of a mother. Keep in mind these wouldn't be your kittens unless you decide to adopt, and the rescue will be making sure that you are following their protocol, but if you and your cat are approved this may help your cats grief.  Also keep in mind your cat may reject the new babies, it's nothing against you or her, it just happens sometimes.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s rough. Sorry sweetie.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9226.0,"score_ratio":59.5}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijfym0v","c_root_id_B":"ijewer4","created_at_utc_A":1659967694,"created_at_utc_B":1659943091,"score_A":50,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Contact a local shelter and ask see if they have any kittens that need fostering. As heartbreaking as it is, you are now likely in the perfect place to help raise some orphaned kittens, and shelters are always looking for people to help foster.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s not your fault. This is just something unfortunate that happens in nature. It\u2019s ridiculous of your neighbours to blame you. Don\u2019t listen to them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24603.0,"score_ratio":1.1363636364}
{"post_id":"wiw5dk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Please notice \ud83d\ude4f Please Notice \ud83d\ude4f  My heart is breaking. My baby gave birth to 5 premature stillborn kittens early today. My baby is very lively during pregnancy, able to carry herself no matter how big she is - she have fun and I make sure to provide her with everything she needs - slightly spoiled.  I was looking forward to spoiling more babies but unfortunately something goes wrong and I don't know why. I'm blaming myself and I don't feel better.  Also, I know a family who are a cat mom pro already, telling me it's because I'm inexperience with the matter. I actually watch from 3 live births already from them. It's just mine never got to have movement at all. Very different.  Still I think I did everything I could during my baby's giving birth. But it sucks to hear what they are saying and it cuts me deeper.  Me and my baby are both grieving. How to overcome it. Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ijfym0v","c_root_id_B":"ijfk69x","created_at_utc_A":1659967694,"created_at_utc_B":1659960815,"score_A":50,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Contact a local shelter and ask see if they have any kittens that need fostering. As heartbreaking as it is, you are now likely in the perfect place to help raise some orphaned kittens, and shelters are always looking for people to help foster.","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s rough. Sorry sweetie.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6879.0,"score_ratio":25.0}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4cg22z","c_root_id_B":"i4clxl8","created_at_utc_A":1649712653,"created_at_utc_B":1649715012,"score_A":94,"score_B":221,"human_ref_A":"You need to go to an ER vet. Please do not pull the string.","human_ref_B":"Driving 2 hours to a ER is better than a dead pet. Please go.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2359.0,"score_ratio":2.3510638298}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4cg22z","c_root_id_B":"i4cwine","created_at_utc_A":1649712653,"created_at_utc_B":1649719484,"score_A":94,"score_B":184,"human_ref_A":"You need to go to an ER vet. Please do not pull the string.","human_ref_B":"You can cut the string close to his rectum so it doesn't snag on objects while he's walking around, but do NOT pull it.  If your kitten doesn't pass the string and you don't get veterinary care, he will die. No two ways about it, and nothing we can do to help you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6831.0,"score_ratio":1.9574468085}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4cwine","c_root_id_B":"i4cpdmn","created_at_utc_A":1649719484,"created_at_utc_B":1649716434,"score_A":184,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"You can cut the string close to his rectum so it doesn't snag on objects while he's walking around, but do NOT pull it.  If your kitten doesn't pass the string and you don't get veterinary care, he will die. No two ways about it, and nothing we can do to help you.","human_ref_B":"You need to get to the closest open vet as soon as possible. Your cat could die from this.dobt pull the string and make sure your cat doesn't pull the string.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3050.0,"score_ratio":2.5205479452}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4dlnp3","c_root_id_B":"i4e34l0","created_at_utc_A":1649730582,"created_at_utc_B":1649740049,"score_A":42,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"I know money is a concern but he needs to go to the emergency vet. DO NOT PULL ON THE STRING. Try applying for care credit and asking if they have other financial options available. Some hospitals take scratch pay.","human_ref_B":"Surrender him to the vet for care if you have to. Better than him dying. I\u2019m sorry, but if you really care about him you will do whatever it takes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9467.0,"score_ratio":1.4523809524}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4exh46","c_root_id_B":"i4e3wi7","created_at_utc_A":1649762843,"created_at_utc_B":1649740573,"score_A":39,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"This is a really tough one OP But as others have said do not pull the string. You HAVE To get him to the ER Vet NOW. Surrender him to them or a rescue ASAP If you can't afford it, inquire about payment plans but whatever you do you have to GO. He will die from this if it can't be passed and he will be in excruciating pain every single moment until he passes. If it comes to the worst, the vet doesn't take surrenders, no rescues can help and you can't afford surgery the least you can do for his sake is put him to sleep, for his sake.  I don't think this needs to be said but take extra extreme caution to put away any craft supplies or objects small enough for cats to eat that isn't food or treats. For the sake of your (potential) current pets and future ones. Insurance and being prepared for medical emergencies with a small savings fund to back it up saves lives.","human_ref_B":"If he doesn\u2019t pass it with his next poop, it may be tangled on his intestine and he needs a vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22270.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4gia4b","c_root_id_B":"i4fpzxm","created_at_utc_A":1649786524,"created_at_utc_B":1649775958,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Go to the vet and put it on your credit card or borrow the money, he doesn't deserve to die \ud83d\ude2b","human_ref_B":"See a lot of comments saying not to pull the string. But can someone explain why for my future reference please","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10566.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"u1hph8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"EMERGENCY: HELP!!!!! Kitten swallowed yarn string sometime earlier and it is sticking out from his butt My 4 month old kitten has swallowed a string sometime in the past 24 hours, and now (30 minutes ago) he has tried to poop it out but failed. It is about a 6 inch long string from what I can tell so far, and about 2 inches have fallen off as he was running around with it, so its two pieces of 3-4 inches of gstring sticking out of him with the knot somewhere in his stomach. I have called the vet and they said to try gently pulling it out but my kitten flinches everytime I try and I\u2019ve read about it online. The latest I can get him to the vet is Thursday and even then I cannot afford it. Please help!!!!!! I don\u2019t know what to do","c_root_id_A":"i4fpzxm","c_root_id_B":"i4gvdeo","created_at_utc_A":1649775958,"created_at_utc_B":1649791497,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"See a lot of comments saying not to pull the string. But can someone explain why for my future reference please","human_ref_B":"You can do one of two things: take him to an er vet or normal vet that\u2019s willing to see him immediately, or surrender him to a shelter that will get him to an er or have someone who is able to help him. If you don\u2019t do either of those the kitten will die, there\u2019s just no other way to say it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15539.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"sea4ge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I've been giving my strictly indoors cat vitamin D3, and it did wonders. Should I continue? Hello everyone,  I live in an apartment that doesn't see the sunlight. My cat has been pretty depressed (sleeps all day, minimal interactions, overtly indifferent to petting, barely eats..).  Took him to the vet, did all the checks and he said he is pretty normal, all looks good. I checked his food and noticed it is not Vit D fortified so I decided to give him 100UI mixed with fatty dairy (he loves cheese)  over the period of 2 weeks, he has changed completely. He started playing around, heavily interacting with all the family members, becoming more vocal again, his appetite came back, and overall you can tell he is in a much better state.  My question is, should I continue doing so at this dose? I mean 100UI is pretty low, I can't imagine it can cause toxicity in the long run (cats max dosage is 4000UI according to some study I found). professional advice would be appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"hui11o9","c_root_id_B":"hui1hki","created_at_utc_A":1643321809,"created_at_utc_B":1643321980,"score_A":30,"score_B":134,"human_ref_A":"This is a really interesting question, and the subject of feline nutrition is a very hot field of research that is developing all the time. A veterinary nutritionist would be an ideal person to ask. Depending on your location, you might need a referral from your usual vet, or you might be able to access one by self-referral, or online. Please find someone who is fully trained and qualified - ie a veterinary surgeon who has taken further studies in nutrition. There are a lot charlatans and people with vested interests out there, who can be extremely charismatic and convincing. It's really cool that you've seen an improvement in your cat's demeanour and behaviour in response to giving the supplements. Please be aware though that adult cats (like all adult mammals) are often lactose intolerant, and therefore dairy products can sometimes cause gut upsets and diarrhoea. If you're not seeing any of that, then that's grand, but if you are, you could consider a different 'treat' that's more cat friendly.","human_ref_B":"Cats do not synthesize vitamin d through their skin like humans. They only get it through food. If you are feeding a complete and balanced diet, there should be no need for excess supplementation.   An increase of Vitamin d can cause the body to pull calcium out of the bones and cause bone weakness.   While the amount you are giving may not be enough for toxicosis, it can still cause changes to the bone\/calcium\/parathyroid metabolism and endocrine changes. If you want to continue this you MUST speak with your vet to determine its efficacy and safety. Its VERY easy to overdose animals as their needs and uses are different from people.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":171.0,"score_ratio":4.4666666667}
{"post_id":"sea4ge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I've been giving my strictly indoors cat vitamin D3, and it did wonders. Should I continue? Hello everyone,  I live in an apartment that doesn't see the sunlight. My cat has been pretty depressed (sleeps all day, minimal interactions, overtly indifferent to petting, barely eats..).  Took him to the vet, did all the checks and he said he is pretty normal, all looks good. I checked his food and noticed it is not Vit D fortified so I decided to give him 100UI mixed with fatty dairy (he loves cheese)  over the period of 2 weeks, he has changed completely. He started playing around, heavily interacting with all the family members, becoming more vocal again, his appetite came back, and overall you can tell he is in a much better state.  My question is, should I continue doing so at this dose? I mean 100UI is pretty low, I can't imagine it can cause toxicity in the long run (cats max dosage is 4000UI according to some study I found). professional advice would be appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"hui11o9","c_root_id_B":"hui9lev","created_at_utc_A":1643321809,"created_at_utc_B":1643325153,"score_A":30,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"This is a really interesting question, and the subject of feline nutrition is a very hot field of research that is developing all the time. A veterinary nutritionist would be an ideal person to ask. Depending on your location, you might need a referral from your usual vet, or you might be able to access one by self-referral, or online. Please find someone who is fully trained and qualified - ie a veterinary surgeon who has taken further studies in nutrition. There are a lot charlatans and people with vested interests out there, who can be extremely charismatic and convincing. It's really cool that you've seen an improvement in your cat's demeanour and behaviour in response to giving the supplements. Please be aware though that adult cats (like all adult mammals) are often lactose intolerant, and therefore dairy products can sometimes cause gut upsets and diarrhoea. If you're not seeing any of that, then that's grand, but if you are, you could consider a different 'treat' that's more cat friendly.","human_ref_B":"You must be careful to not overdose the Vitamin D!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3344.0,"score_ratio":1.2666666667}
{"post_id":"m57ot5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Mother cat hissing at kittens?  Species: feline, female, not desexed. Was a stay cat brought into a rescue group so unsure of exact age, likely 1-2. Domestic short hair, tortoiseshell.   So my friend is fostering a mother cat and 4 of her (~10) day old babies. The mother cat absolutely shredded a fly screen to get out of the house overnight and was gone for two nights before my friend was able to catch her again (she has been bottle feeding the babies in the meantime). Now mum is back and hissing at the babies, she is still producing milk, is still eating and does not seem injured. Is there anything we can do to encourage her to look after the little ones again? Mum was looking after them before she escaped.","c_root_id_A":"gqyzbsi","c_root_id_B":"gqz1zkp","created_at_utc_A":1615774361,"created_at_utc_B":1615775958,"score_A":54,"score_B":75,"human_ref_A":"Rub a towel or cloth all over mama, especially her cheeks and forehead, then rub that all over the kittens to transfer the scent","human_ref_B":"If it\u2019s her first litter, sometimes mama cats will reject the babies. Especially if she\u2019s a younger cat herself. If you can\u2019t get her to accept and nurse them in a few days I would either find a rescue for the babies or just fully take over raising them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1597.0,"score_ratio":1.3888888889}
{"post_id":"m57ot5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Mother cat hissing at kittens?  Species: feline, female, not desexed. Was a stay cat brought into a rescue group so unsure of exact age, likely 1-2. Domestic short hair, tortoiseshell.   So my friend is fostering a mother cat and 4 of her (~10) day old babies. The mother cat absolutely shredded a fly screen to get out of the house overnight and was gone for two nights before my friend was able to catch her again (she has been bottle feeding the babies in the meantime). Now mum is back and hissing at the babies, she is still producing milk, is still eating and does not seem injured. Is there anything we can do to encourage her to look after the little ones again? Mum was looking after them before she escaped.","c_root_id_A":"gqzdhpz","c_root_id_B":"gqzk5fs","created_at_utc_A":1615783524,"created_at_utc_B":1615789153,"score_A":10,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Stress from the lack of certain nutrients is a potential problem. What kind of food is she being fed? If you\u2019re feeding her kibble, I recommend moistening it with warm water.   Environment is also important. While it\u2019s important to keep them warm and cozy, it\u2019s also very important that they\u2019re not in super enclosed environment where supply of fresh air is severely diminished.   Not many homes have good ventilation and that can easily lead to health problems.","human_ref_B":"After reading other suggestions the only thing that comes to mind that I could add is you could possibly try calming products like Feliway\/pet remedy. (As you\u2019re experienced I expect you\u2019re already aware) but if you can make her a range of little nesting areas that are dark, warm and cuddly so she has a range of places she can put the kittens if she desires. If you can spread her scent around them as well, or yours (if she trusts you and enjoys your company) it may make her feel more secure. Though frustratingly sometimes after time away from their babies they may well not recognise them regardless of scent.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5629.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"m57ot5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Mother cat hissing at kittens?  Species: feline, female, not desexed. Was a stay cat brought into a rescue group so unsure of exact age, likely 1-2. Domestic short hair, tortoiseshell.   So my friend is fostering a mother cat and 4 of her (~10) day old babies. The mother cat absolutely shredded a fly screen to get out of the house overnight and was gone for two nights before my friend was able to catch her again (she has been bottle feeding the babies in the meantime). Now mum is back and hissing at the babies, she is still producing milk, is still eating and does not seem injured. Is there anything we can do to encourage her to look after the little ones again? Mum was looking after them before she escaped.","c_root_id_A":"gr0esst","c_root_id_B":"gr09er0","created_at_utc_A":1615815693,"created_at_utc_B":1615812492,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Personally, when my 11 month old, gave birth to 1 kitten (by surprise, i had no idea i had only gotten her 2 months prior) and was told by the vet that she needed to be confined together for 2 weeks so they can bond, i was at a loss... I lived in a bachelor apartment... SO, i locked them both in my bathroom for 2 full weeks. I put the cat litter in the tub, I put blankets on the floor of the bathroom, and put a large travel bag on the floor with blankets in it for the kitten to stay comfy until she could walk. Mother went nuts at first, scratching under the door.... but after awhile, she did what was natural and cared for her. A bit too much since it was her only kitten and ended up \"overlicking\" her ears, but after 2 weeks i let them out and they were good.  (I had never had cats in my life, let alone a kitten)  Edited to add: I also put her food and water in the bathroom as well. LOL","human_ref_B":"Can lactating cats become engorged?  If she was away from her kittens for 2 days, could her teats be sore and painful when the kittens nuzzle?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3201.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ixkiwh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smelly cat, smelly cat... Winnie, our lovely cat suffered a head trauma last year in November 2019 that may have been caused by a car accident (we're not entirely sure as we didn't actually witness it, although he looked very rough and we think he was clipped rather than run over). At the time he had surgery to remove a canine fang and a general tidy up of\u00a0 the injury.\u00a0  During his recovery he had some nasal\/eye discharge that was running clear, yellow and green at different times, which would sometimes dry off and look like it was clearing up but overall persisted.\u00a0  We brought him back into the vet in March earlier this year as a strong smell had been coming out of him, smelling like dead flesh or something really funky. He had also been sneezing frequently trying to clear whatever was bothering him. He was issued antibiotics and we all noticed the discharge and sneezing was markedly improved and the smell was almost gone. Unfortunately this didn't last, and so he was reissued a longer script to help combat these symptoms. We finished this script and the condition sadly returned again, this would have been  about early May 2020.  We emailed the vets with an update on his condition in June because he almost seemed worse than he originally started in terms of smell, sneezing and discharge. We wondered if there was any other possible explanation for his symptoms, such as a tooth socket gone septic from his original surgery, or even a possible broken tooth that is undetected.\u00a0The vets issued him a longer script of antibiotics which was supposed to completely address any issues of infection. He was on a 6 week course of antibiotics - day and night - which didn't make much of a difference. We are now in September and the antibiotics have been finished and we are back at square one and unsure what to do.  He really is a cool cat and it's a tragedy he is so smelly and offensive, it has completely affected his quality of life as he is very friendly and loves people but so smelly he cannot be petted. Every time he sneezes the smell is putrid and my poor parents don't know what to do. We have already invested a lot of money so don't know what else can be done but if there's a realistic solution we can explore then we would love to hear about it. We are thinking of requesting his full medical history and trying another vet for a second opinion as we really really want to help him get better but don't want another repeated course of antibiotics as it seems like a band-aid solution.   We are desperate for any recommendations or ideas. Please help :(","c_root_id_A":"g67dk87","c_root_id_B":"g67f826","created_at_utc_A":1600774813,"created_at_utc_B":1600776199,"score_A":2,"score_B":79,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet Has no imaging been done? Is there a veterinary dental specialist in your area? Edited to remove anecdote.","human_ref_B":"go to a different vet with a list of everything you\u2019ve done so far and get a second opinion","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1386.0,"score_ratio":39.5}
{"post_id":"ixkiwh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smelly cat, smelly cat... Winnie, our lovely cat suffered a head trauma last year in November 2019 that may have been caused by a car accident (we're not entirely sure as we didn't actually witness it, although he looked very rough and we think he was clipped rather than run over). At the time he had surgery to remove a canine fang and a general tidy up of\u00a0 the injury.\u00a0  During his recovery he had some nasal\/eye discharge that was running clear, yellow and green at different times, which would sometimes dry off and look like it was clearing up but overall persisted.\u00a0  We brought him back into the vet in March earlier this year as a strong smell had been coming out of him, smelling like dead flesh or something really funky. He had also been sneezing frequently trying to clear whatever was bothering him. He was issued antibiotics and we all noticed the discharge and sneezing was markedly improved and the smell was almost gone. Unfortunately this didn't last, and so he was reissued a longer script to help combat these symptoms. We finished this script and the condition sadly returned again, this would have been  about early May 2020.  We emailed the vets with an update on his condition in June because he almost seemed worse than he originally started in terms of smell, sneezing and discharge. We wondered if there was any other possible explanation for his symptoms, such as a tooth socket gone septic from his original surgery, or even a possible broken tooth that is undetected.\u00a0The vets issued him a longer script of antibiotics which was supposed to completely address any issues of infection. He was on a 6 week course of antibiotics - day and night - which didn't make much of a difference. We are now in September and the antibiotics have been finished and we are back at square one and unsure what to do.  He really is a cool cat and it's a tragedy he is so smelly and offensive, it has completely affected his quality of life as he is very friendly and loves people but so smelly he cannot be petted. Every time he sneezes the smell is putrid and my poor parents don't know what to do. We have already invested a lot of money so don't know what else can be done but if there's a realistic solution we can explore then we would love to hear about it. We are thinking of requesting his full medical history and trying another vet for a second opinion as we really really want to help him get better but don't want another repeated course of antibiotics as it seems like a band-aid solution.   We are desperate for any recommendations or ideas. Please help :(","c_root_id_A":"g67k3wa","c_root_id_B":"g67kx6r","created_at_utc_A":1600779740,"created_at_utc_B":1600780275,"score_A":16,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d try a second vet to get a different opinion","human_ref_B":"Not only would I suggest a second opinion, but I would look into a soft tissue surgeon or dental specialty practice near you. They would likely suggest getting a CT done, as the head area is really hard to decipher via x-rays (but if that's financially not an option, x-rays may give you an answer of what's happening).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":535.0,"score_ratio":2.8125}
{"post_id":"ixkiwh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smelly cat, smelly cat... Winnie, our lovely cat suffered a head trauma last year in November 2019 that may have been caused by a car accident (we're not entirely sure as we didn't actually witness it, although he looked very rough and we think he was clipped rather than run over). At the time he had surgery to remove a canine fang and a general tidy up of\u00a0 the injury.\u00a0  During his recovery he had some nasal\/eye discharge that was running clear, yellow and green at different times, which would sometimes dry off and look like it was clearing up but overall persisted.\u00a0  We brought him back into the vet in March earlier this year as a strong smell had been coming out of him, smelling like dead flesh or something really funky. He had also been sneezing frequently trying to clear whatever was bothering him. He was issued antibiotics and we all noticed the discharge and sneezing was markedly improved and the smell was almost gone. Unfortunately this didn't last, and so he was reissued a longer script to help combat these symptoms. We finished this script and the condition sadly returned again, this would have been  about early May 2020.  We emailed the vets with an update on his condition in June because he almost seemed worse than he originally started in terms of smell, sneezing and discharge. We wondered if there was any other possible explanation for his symptoms, such as a tooth socket gone septic from his original surgery, or even a possible broken tooth that is undetected.\u00a0The vets issued him a longer script of antibiotics which was supposed to completely address any issues of infection. He was on a 6 week course of antibiotics - day and night - which didn't make much of a difference. We are now in September and the antibiotics have been finished and we are back at square one and unsure what to do.  He really is a cool cat and it's a tragedy he is so smelly and offensive, it has completely affected his quality of life as he is very friendly and loves people but so smelly he cannot be petted. Every time he sneezes the smell is putrid and my poor parents don't know what to do. We have already invested a lot of money so don't know what else can be done but if there's a realistic solution we can explore then we would love to hear about it. We are thinking of requesting his full medical history and trying another vet for a second opinion as we really really want to help him get better but don't want another repeated course of antibiotics as it seems like a band-aid solution.   We are desperate for any recommendations or ideas. Please help :(","c_root_id_A":"g67kx6r","c_root_id_B":"g67dk87","created_at_utc_A":1600780275,"created_at_utc_B":1600774813,"score_A":45,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Not only would I suggest a second opinion, but I would look into a soft tissue surgeon or dental specialty practice near you. They would likely suggest getting a CT done, as the head area is really hard to decipher via x-rays (but if that's financially not an option, x-rays may give you an answer of what's happening).","human_ref_B":"Not a vet Has no imaging been done? Is there a veterinary dental specialist in your area? Edited to remove anecdote.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5462.0,"score_ratio":22.5}
{"post_id":"ixkiwh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smelly cat, smelly cat... Winnie, our lovely cat suffered a head trauma last year in November 2019 that may have been caused by a car accident (we're not entirely sure as we didn't actually witness it, although he looked very rough and we think he was clipped rather than run over). At the time he had surgery to remove a canine fang and a general tidy up of\u00a0 the injury.\u00a0  During his recovery he had some nasal\/eye discharge that was running clear, yellow and green at different times, which would sometimes dry off and look like it was clearing up but overall persisted.\u00a0  We brought him back into the vet in March earlier this year as a strong smell had been coming out of him, smelling like dead flesh or something really funky. He had also been sneezing frequently trying to clear whatever was bothering him. He was issued antibiotics and we all noticed the discharge and sneezing was markedly improved and the smell was almost gone. Unfortunately this didn't last, and so he was reissued a longer script to help combat these symptoms. We finished this script and the condition sadly returned again, this would have been  about early May 2020.  We emailed the vets with an update on his condition in June because he almost seemed worse than he originally started in terms of smell, sneezing and discharge. We wondered if there was any other possible explanation for his symptoms, such as a tooth socket gone septic from his original surgery, or even a possible broken tooth that is undetected.\u00a0The vets issued him a longer script of antibiotics which was supposed to completely address any issues of infection. He was on a 6 week course of antibiotics - day and night - which didn't make much of a difference. We are now in September and the antibiotics have been finished and we are back at square one and unsure what to do.  He really is a cool cat and it's a tragedy he is so smelly and offensive, it has completely affected his quality of life as he is very friendly and loves people but so smelly he cannot be petted. Every time he sneezes the smell is putrid and my poor parents don't know what to do. We have already invested a lot of money so don't know what else can be done but if there's a realistic solution we can explore then we would love to hear about it. We are thinking of requesting his full medical history and trying another vet for a second opinion as we really really want to help him get better but don't want another repeated course of antibiotics as it seems like a band-aid solution.   We are desperate for any recommendations or ideas. Please help :(","c_root_id_A":"g67k3wa","c_root_id_B":"g67dk87","created_at_utc_A":1600779740,"created_at_utc_B":1600774813,"score_A":16,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d try a second vet to get a different opinion","human_ref_B":"Not a vet Has no imaging been done? Is there a veterinary dental specialist in your area? Edited to remove anecdote.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4927.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"ixkiwh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Smelly cat, smelly cat... Winnie, our lovely cat suffered a head trauma last year in November 2019 that may have been caused by a car accident (we're not entirely sure as we didn't actually witness it, although he looked very rough and we think he was clipped rather than run over). At the time he had surgery to remove a canine fang and a general tidy up of\u00a0 the injury.\u00a0  During his recovery he had some nasal\/eye discharge that was running clear, yellow and green at different times, which would sometimes dry off and look like it was clearing up but overall persisted.\u00a0  We brought him back into the vet in March earlier this year as a strong smell had been coming out of him, smelling like dead flesh or something really funky. He had also been sneezing frequently trying to clear whatever was bothering him. He was issued antibiotics and we all noticed the discharge and sneezing was markedly improved and the smell was almost gone. Unfortunately this didn't last, and so he was reissued a longer script to help combat these symptoms. We finished this script and the condition sadly returned again, this would have been  about early May 2020.  We emailed the vets with an update on his condition in June because he almost seemed worse than he originally started in terms of smell, sneezing and discharge. We wondered if there was any other possible explanation for his symptoms, such as a tooth socket gone septic from his original surgery, or even a possible broken tooth that is undetected.\u00a0The vets issued him a longer script of antibiotics which was supposed to completely address any issues of infection. He was on a 6 week course of antibiotics - day and night - which didn't make much of a difference. We are now in September and the antibiotics have been finished and we are back at square one and unsure what to do.  He really is a cool cat and it's a tragedy he is so smelly and offensive, it has completely affected his quality of life as he is very friendly and loves people but so smelly he cannot be petted. Every time he sneezes the smell is putrid and my poor parents don't know what to do. We have already invested a lot of money so don't know what else can be done but if there's a realistic solution we can explore then we would love to hear about it. We are thinking of requesting his full medical history and trying another vet for a second opinion as we really really want to help him get better but don't want another repeated course of antibiotics as it seems like a band-aid solution.   We are desperate for any recommendations or ideas. Please help :(","c_root_id_A":"g67dk87","c_root_id_B":"g67y5pe","created_at_utc_A":1600774813,"created_at_utc_B":1600787640,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet Has no imaging been done? Is there a veterinary dental specialist in your area? Edited to remove anecdote.","human_ref_B":"Go get a second opinion!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12827.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"ewodqf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is my rabbit grieving and what can I do to help? Species: rabbit Age: 8 years Sex: female Neuter status: spayed Breed: dwarf hotot  Weight: 3.3 pounds   History: I have owned my rabbit, Belle, since she was a baby. She lived with and was bonded with my other rabbit named Holly. Unfortunately we discovered that Holly had a mass in her stomach and has had to be put to sleep. Belle now lives alone.  Signs\/symptoms: Belle has had a notable change in behaviour since Holly died. She is eating far less and over grooming herself. While she seems bright and alert she is also less active than usual.  Length of time: It has been two days since Holly died and Belle\u2019s behaviour seemed to change almost instantly since we took Holly away  Other info: Belle is fully up to date with her vaccinations and vet visits and has had no other heath problems otherwise  Location: UK  Belle and Holly lived together their whole lives and Holly\u2019s death was incredibly sudden. I think Belle may be lonely without her friend but I don\u2019t know what to do to make her feel more comfortable. I\u2019m not sure if getting another rabbit at her age is a good idea, I don\u2019t know if she would bond with another rabbit. Is there anything a vet could do to help her? Any advice would be welcome please","c_root_id_A":"fg3v2t0","c_root_id_B":"fg3o87c","created_at_utc_A":1580490298,"created_at_utc_B":1580486084,"score_A":41,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Bonded pairs can become stressed if separated or if one passes. We even see that if one rabbit of a bonded pair needs to be hospitalized for an illness and the other stays at home.  The main problem we see from this is [GI Stasis], (https:\/\/rabbit.org\/gastrointestinal-stasis-the-silent-killer-2\/), which becomes a medical emergency in rabbits. I definitely think you should read over that article and consult with a veterinarian versed in rabbits and decide what steps you should take next if the behavior doesn't improve over the next 24-72 hours. Bunnies crash really fast so keep a close eye on everything!","human_ref_B":"I mostly have experience with cats, but grieving the loss of a bond mate sounds logical. Have you spoken to your vet about Belle yet? They may be able to suggest some things you can do with her until the worst of her grief has passed. And they'll also be able to help you regarding (the wisdom and timeline of) a new introduction.   Sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4214.0,"score_ratio":1.8636363636}
{"post_id":"ze2ecl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Need a second opinion before I commit to making a 15 - 20 hour trip to the nearest vet. I'm from a town in Northern Canada with 500 people in it and I am very far from our nearest vet. I've had a dog for three years since it was born. Here's the details.  - Dog - 3 - neutered - chihuahua\/weiner mix - 14 lbs\/6.5 kg - no health issues except this weird lump on his wrist - about 2 maybe 3 weeks. A lump on his wrist started out kind of pink (looked like a tiny scratch or bug bite), grew in size and now its a little dark in the middle, slightly scabby. But still pretty round. The lump is no bigger than a pinky nail. Doesn't seem to bother him at all (no pain, scratching, biting) - about 2 or three weeks - I've never used Reddit. I'm a little nervous about this one. I'm from Northern Canada","c_root_id_A":"iz4rzs2","c_root_id_B":"iz4cjtu","created_at_utc_A":1670335402,"created_at_utc_B":1670325869,"score_A":125,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Use airvet, it\u2019s an app with great vets all over the country. They can video call you and give you a limited consult for really cheap. I used them a lot and they we\u2019re very helpful when you don\u2019t know what to do and are questioning a vet visit. I believe it\u2019s $20 per call or $30 a month for unlimited calls.","human_ref_B":"Is it on both front legs?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9533.0,"score_ratio":20.8333333333}
{"post_id":"ze2ecl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Need a second opinion before I commit to making a 15 - 20 hour trip to the nearest vet. I'm from a town in Northern Canada with 500 people in it and I am very far from our nearest vet. I've had a dog for three years since it was born. Here's the details.  - Dog - 3 - neutered - chihuahua\/weiner mix - 14 lbs\/6.5 kg - no health issues except this weird lump on his wrist - about 2 maybe 3 weeks. A lump on his wrist started out kind of pink (looked like a tiny scratch or bug bite), grew in size and now its a little dark in the middle, slightly scabby. But still pretty round. The lump is no bigger than a pinky nail. Doesn't seem to bother him at all (no pain, scratching, biting) - about 2 or three weeks - I've never used Reddit. I'm a little nervous about this one. I'm from Northern Canada","c_root_id_A":"iz4cjtu","c_root_id_B":"iz5isgh","created_at_utc_A":1670325869,"created_at_utc_B":1670346753,"score_A":6,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"Is it on both front legs?","human_ref_B":"Hi. I\u2019m a vet tech in southern Ontario.  Can you email the vet you\u2019ll be visiting these photos, and set up a phone consultation?. Tell the vet\/staff how far away you are. If they think this mass needs to come off and send for biopsies then you can try and set all of that up in one appointment. (Personally I would want a biopsy)  Good luck.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20884.0,"score_ratio":8.6666666667}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibfh9cz","c_root_id_B":"ibfxtde","created_at_utc_A":1654560450,"created_at_utc_B":1654568832,"score_A":26,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"You could rub smelly food on them (like canned tuna oil) , they\u2019ll start licking each other hopefully and themselves to get their natural scent back and smell like each other again.  Edit: wanted to add I\u2019m not a vet but this has worked for me previously after a vet visit","human_ref_B":"Groomer here: when they come back from the groomers they don\u2019t smell like \u201cthemselves\u201d. They smell like salon, shampoo, other  animals, the car, etc. It usually takes a couple  days before they smell \u201cnormal\u201d again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8382.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibfrhe4","c_root_id_B":"ibfxtde","created_at_utc_A":1654565603,"created_at_utc_B":1654568832,"score_A":14,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"Scented products like shampoos may be ok for humans, but cats sense of smell is much stronger than humans, so although you may not notice a strong scent coming from the cats they may find it very strong. I would say bath them again but use unscented\/ animal friendly products that leave no smell.","human_ref_B":"Groomer here: when they come back from the groomers they don\u2019t smell like \u201cthemselves\u201d. They smell like salon, shampoo, other  animals, the car, etc. It usually takes a couple  days before they smell \u201cnormal\u201d again.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3229.0,"score_ratio":3.7142857143}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibfh9cz","c_root_id_B":"ibgol9z","created_at_utc_A":1654560450,"created_at_utc_B":1654586710,"score_A":26,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"You could rub smelly food on them (like canned tuna oil) , they\u2019ll start licking each other hopefully and themselves to get their natural scent back and smell like each other again.  Edit: wanted to add I\u2019m not a vet but this has worked for me previously after a vet visit","human_ref_B":"Cats absolutely hate being groomed. I\u2019d recommend not doing that again unless medically necessary. In the meantime calming pheromone spray, loads of encouragement, and rubbing tuna on the fur might help. Cats see by smell, you\u2019ve accidentally effectively blinded them by taking them to the groomer. I can imagine for the older cat it\u2019s probably very disorienting.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26260.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibgol9z","c_root_id_B":"ibfrhe4","created_at_utc_A":1654586710,"created_at_utc_B":1654565603,"score_A":48,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Cats absolutely hate being groomed. I\u2019d recommend not doing that again unless medically necessary. In the meantime calming pheromone spray, loads of encouragement, and rubbing tuna on the fur might help. Cats see by smell, you\u2019ve accidentally effectively blinded them by taking them to the groomer. I can imagine for the older cat it\u2019s probably very disorienting.","human_ref_B":"Scented products like shampoos may be ok for humans, but cats sense of smell is much stronger than humans, so although you may not notice a strong scent coming from the cats they may find it very strong. I would say bath them again but use unscented\/ animal friendly products that leave no smell.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21107.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibfrhe4","c_root_id_B":"ibi12m2","created_at_utc_A":1654565603,"created_at_utc_B":1654617648,"score_A":14,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Scented products like shampoos may be ok for humans, but cats sense of smell is much stronger than humans, so although you may not notice a strong scent coming from the cats they may find it very strong. I would say bath them again but use unscented\/ animal friendly products that leave no smell.","human_ref_B":"Here is an old trick take a towel a dry towel and rub it on the old man, then rubb it on the other guy see if that helps. Cats trade scents to let the other know what group their from and chase away outsiders.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":52045.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"v6dpzu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cats can\u2019t recognize eachother after grooming. Hi guys, I\u2019m in a problem and need your help because it\u2019s making me sad. I took my 2 cats last week to get groomed, putting them both in one cage on the way to the vet and back home. While coming back home, my senior cat (7 y\/o) was happily licking the younger cat (2 y\/o) and they both seemed okay. The moment we got home and let the 2 cats out of their cage, they started sniffing eachother and I could tell something was wrong. The senior immediately started chasing the younger cat and both of them clashed. This continued for 2 days everytime they spot eachother, the senior would always run and chase the younger. Until the senior eventually somehow recognized the younger, but the younger cat remained defensive, always looking around for the senior and frightened he may attack him again. It\u2019s been a week, my senior cat is depressed because he misses my younger cat. The younger cat is always defensive, hissing at my younger cat if he gets close to him. Always looking at the doors like he\u2019s anticipating the senior any time for an attack. Meanwhile the senior cat looks at the younger with sad eyes until eventually got tired and actually started to be afraid of him and hating to get close to the younger.   I desperately need your help guys.","c_root_id_A":"ibi12m2","c_root_id_B":"ibh6wfn","created_at_utc_A":1654617648,"created_at_utc_B":1654602600,"score_A":15,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Here is an old trick take a towel a dry towel and rub it on the old man, then rubb it on the other guy see if that helps. Cats trade scents to let the other know what group their from and chase away outsiders.","human_ref_B":"Call your vet back an explain the situation- they can help you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15048.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgextrz","c_root_id_B":"hgdixx7","created_at_utc_A":1634079495,"created_at_utc_B":1634058391,"score_A":60,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"I just want to reiterate that you should be washing your hands after every contact with this animal and try to limit contact to whatever is absolutely necessary. Any contact with the vomit or saliva should trigger more hand washing. Another commenter brought up the question of if rabies is endemic in Taiwan. Rabies is present on all continents so I would be safe and assume any stray animal is a risk and could be carrying the virus.   Thank you for trying to take care of this baby, but please also take care of yourself.","human_ref_B":"At least call the emergency vet to see if they can save a spot for him when you are able to get there. See if there is any advice they can give you, they'll know your area better.  Also, keep him away from any other animals. Wash your hands very well after handling him. Do not touch your face with your hands.  His care at the ER, if he makes it to that, will be expensive. In the meantime, try to find a rescue willing to take him on if he does survive, in case you can't afford it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21104.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgex7rk","c_root_id_B":"hgextrz","created_at_utc_A":1634079214,"created_at_utc_B":1634079495,"score_A":41,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"Try to give him very little amounts of water very regularly. If you can find a very light broth (with just a little salt) instead of water it'd be even better.   If you have some honey, try rubbing it on his gums.","human_ref_B":"I just want to reiterate that you should be washing your hands after every contact with this animal and try to limit contact to whatever is absolutely necessary. Any contact with the vomit or saliva should trigger more hand washing. Another commenter brought up the question of if rabies is endemic in Taiwan. Rabies is present on all continents so I would be safe and assume any stray animal is a risk and could be carrying the virus.   Thank you for trying to take care of this baby, but please also take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":281.0,"score_ratio":1.4634146341}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgextrz","c_root_id_B":"hger00q","created_at_utc_A":1634079495,"created_at_utc_B":1634076487,"score_A":60,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I just want to reiterate that you should be washing your hands after every contact with this animal and try to limit contact to whatever is absolutely necessary. Any contact with the vomit or saliva should trigger more hand washing. Another commenter brought up the question of if rabies is endemic in Taiwan. Rabies is present on all continents so I would be safe and assume any stray animal is a risk and could be carrying the virus.   Thank you for trying to take care of this baby, but please also take care of yourself.","human_ref_B":"Is rabies endemic in Taiwan?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3008.0,"score_ratio":4.6153846154}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgel0ac","c_root_id_B":"hgextrz","created_at_utc_A":1634073943,"created_at_utc_B":1634079495,"score_A":12,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"I found this first aid procedure for vomiting (and diarrhea) dogs from an animal hospital website:  https:\/\/www.bellemeadanimalhospital.com\/vomiting-and-diarrhea-first-aid-rules\/  The instructions are detailed, however I can't confirm if they are correct procedures, as I don't have any veterinary medical knowledge.  Thank you for doing the best you can to save the puppy.","human_ref_B":"I just want to reiterate that you should be washing your hands after every contact with this animal and try to limit contact to whatever is absolutely necessary. Any contact with the vomit or saliva should trigger more hand washing. Another commenter brought up the question of if rabies is endemic in Taiwan. Rabies is present on all continents so I would be safe and assume any stray animal is a risk and could be carrying the virus.   Thank you for trying to take care of this baby, but please also take care of yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5552.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hger00q","c_root_id_B":"hgex7rk","created_at_utc_A":1634076487,"created_at_utc_B":1634079214,"score_A":13,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Is rabies endemic in Taiwan?","human_ref_B":"Try to give him very little amounts of water very regularly. If you can find a very light broth (with just a little salt) instead of water it'd be even better.   If you have some honey, try rubbing it on his gums.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2727.0,"score_ratio":3.1538461538}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgel0ac","c_root_id_B":"hgex7rk","created_at_utc_A":1634073943,"created_at_utc_B":1634079214,"score_A":12,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"I found this first aid procedure for vomiting (and diarrhea) dogs from an animal hospital website:  https:\/\/www.bellemeadanimalhospital.com\/vomiting-and-diarrhea-first-aid-rules\/  The instructions are detailed, however I can't confirm if they are correct procedures, as I don't have any veterinary medical knowledge.  Thank you for doing the best you can to save the puppy.","human_ref_B":"Try to give him very little amounts of water very regularly. If you can find a very light broth (with just a little salt) instead of water it'd be even better.   If you have some honey, try rubbing it on his gums.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5271.0,"score_ratio":3.4166666667}
{"post_id":"q6oza1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emergency: Found an abandoned puppy that won't stop vomiting; can't take him to the vet for 24 hours Let me preface this by saying I will take this dog to the vet as soon as possible, but I'm in a rural area right now and simply cannot do it until tomorrow (about 24 hours). If I could possibly get to the vet right now, I'd be there already.  THE SITUATION: My girlfriend and I found a young (I'd guess 2-3 month old) puppy about five hours ago. He was very cold and had obviously been abandoned. We brought him to the hotel where we're staying and warmed him up. He slept for a while, stopped shivering, and seemed to be improving at first, but for the past three hours he's been vomiting almost constantly (at least once every 20 minutes). This of course means that he hasn't been able to keep the water we've given him down, and I'm getting worried about dehydration. The vomit is foamy and white, although now he's mostly just dry heaving.   About five minutes ago he had diarrhea. It was very thin and slightly pinkish. I know that can be a symptom of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, although the diarrhea was opaque and not jelly-like. The color was subtle, not clearly bloody or anything, so if I wasn't already on high alert since he's obviously very sick I probably wouldn't have noticed anything unusual at all.  Again, I will get this dog to the vet as soon as I possibly can. Right now I'd appreciate any advice at all on just getting him through the next 24 hours.  Sorry for not including the breed, sex\/neuter status, etc; the stuff I wrote above is all I know","c_root_id_A":"hgel0ac","c_root_id_B":"hger00q","created_at_utc_A":1634073943,"created_at_utc_B":1634076487,"score_A":12,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I found this first aid procedure for vomiting (and diarrhea) dogs from an animal hospital website:  https:\/\/www.bellemeadanimalhospital.com\/vomiting-and-diarrhea-first-aid-rules\/  The instructions are detailed, however I can't confirm if they are correct procedures, as I don't have any veterinary medical knowledge.  Thank you for doing the best you can to save the puppy.","human_ref_B":"Is rabies endemic in Taiwan?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2544.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"oc6uhu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My dog\u2019s neuter stitches got removed too early My dog just got neutered on Monday and  today (3 days later) is the day I\u2019m supposed take his bandage off to medicate the scar with ointment per my vet\u2019s recommendation. I tried taking the bandage off at home but it was too strongly adhered to his skin so it was hurting him a lot as I tried peeling it off bit by bit. I ended up having someone take my dog to the vet to get his bandage removed. I couldn\u2019t go myself because I was sick. Another vet at the clinic ended up being available to simply remove a bandage, but the vet misunderstood and ended up taking off his stitches as well 3 days before they were ready to be removed. My dog came home and I was shocked to see that my dog no longer had his stitches in and I contacted the vet that operated on my dog. She told me that the stitches shouldn\u2019t have been removed and to keep applying ointment often. I\u2019m still very worried about the wound reopening and getting infected. please advice me about the best course of action at this point.","c_root_id_A":"h3sq1ly","c_root_id_B":"h3sk24g","created_at_utc_A":1625229252,"created_at_utc_B":1625225340,"score_A":69,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you've contacted the surgeon and she feels comfortable asking you to apply the ointment and allow it to continue to heal. I'd recommend continuing that course of treatment.   Many techniques for neutering in different species don't close the skin at all, so you're likely to be fine, but obviously keep in touch with your vet if you have any concerns.","human_ref_B":"Can you post photos of the incision?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3912.0,"score_ratio":9.8571428571}
{"post_id":"m7rl1g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets of reddit - what do you feel about Amazon's brand of dog food, Wag? Good? Bad? Recommend? Don't recommend?  Ingredients and analysis: http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/N0L3YDP","c_root_id_A":"grd7ymw","c_root_id_B":"grd57dh","created_at_utc_A":1616079507,"created_at_utc_B":1616078618,"score_A":172,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"It's grain free, so it goes straight to the \"do not feed\" pile.","human_ref_B":"Whole bunch of diet info in the sidebar.  I doubt many of us would recommend this food.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":889.0,"score_ratio":2.5294117647}
{"post_id":"m7rl1g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets of reddit - what do you feel about Amazon's brand of dog food, Wag? Good? Bad? Recommend? Don't recommend?  Ingredients and analysis: http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/N0L3YDP","c_root_id_A":"grdwq41","c_root_id_B":"grdsunx","created_at_utc_A":1616088621,"created_at_utc_B":1616086959,"score_A":44,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Royal canin, Purina pro plan, Hill\u2019s science diet or bust lol","human_ref_B":"I would not recommend grain-free in general given current concerns with grain-free. Hopefully this is further studied and understood soon, but at the moment I only recommend grain-inclusive diets.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1662.0,"score_ratio":1.4666666667}
{"post_id":"m7rl1g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets of reddit - what do you feel about Amazon's brand of dog food, Wag? Good? Bad? Recommend? Don't recommend?  Ingredients and analysis: http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/N0L3YDP","c_root_id_A":"grdg7xd","c_root_id_B":"grdwq41","created_at_utc_A":1616082160,"created_at_utc_B":1616088621,"score_A":19,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"This is a great resource for any questions you might have about food labels.  https:\/\/talkspetfood.aafco.org\/readinglabels  AAFCO regulates dog\/cat food testing and label accuracy.","human_ref_B":"Royal canin, Purina pro plan, Hill\u2019s science diet or bust lol","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6461.0,"score_ratio":2.3157894737}
{"post_id":"m7rl1g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets of reddit - what do you feel about Amazon's brand of dog food, Wag? Good? Bad? Recommend? Don't recommend?  Ingredients and analysis: http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/N0L3YDP","c_root_id_A":"grdg7xd","c_root_id_B":"grdsunx","created_at_utc_A":1616082160,"created_at_utc_B":1616086959,"score_A":19,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"This is a great resource for any questions you might have about food labels.  https:\/\/talkspetfood.aafco.org\/readinglabels  AAFCO regulates dog\/cat food testing and label accuracy.","human_ref_B":"I would not recommend grain-free in general given current concerns with grain-free. Hopefully this is further studied and understood soon, but at the moment I only recommend grain-inclusive diets.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4799.0,"score_ratio":1.5789473684}
{"post_id":"jqxryg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Traumatized Kitty  This is probably a little bit different than some posts here. My cat is pretty healthy physically. But I think she needs mental help and I don't know how to help her.   My cat's name is Bean. I adopted her from a local animal shelter 6 years ago. When I walked into the cat room, she immediately started purring, loud enough that I could hear her from across the room. When I walked over, I discovered she only has 2 inches of tail. It was freshly shaven as if it was from surgery (so no she's not a minx). When I asked the center, they said she came like that, and they didn't know what happened. I fell in love with her instantly      When I brought her home, she refused to leave her carrying case for almost 3 days. We had to tip her out eventually. But she got used to my room and feels at home there now. She did NOT get used to our other cat, and they have now become the upstairs cat and the downstairs cat.   Bean was very skiddish when we got her. She still is. She won't let you pick her up, but if she comes to you she's more than happy to sit next to you. If you move near her, she gets scared. My parents and I think that someone abused her by cutting off her tail, and that she has kitty PTSD.   It's been 6 years since I adopted her, and we've made a lot of progress. I can pull her onto my lap sometimes (not that she stays there), and she understands that I'm not going to hurt her. But she still will not let us carry her (or if she does it's not with her cooperating). She is terrified to go to the vet. The last time we had to bring her she released the scent glands cats have, which I had never seen a cat do before. She won't let me carry her to find out how heavy she is, but she looks like she needs to lose weight.      We've tried the pheromone sprayers, and it helped her be less aggressive with our other cat, but she's still super scared.   How can I help my traumatized cat?      TLDR: My cat is scared of being picked up, people moving near her, and is aggressive towards our other cat, even after 6 years. We think she has trauma and was abused. How can I help her?   &#x200B;  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  Species: Cat  Age: \\* 6   Sex\/Neuter status: \\* Neutered  Breed: \\* American Shorthair Cat (maybe? The adoption center wasn't sure)  Body weight: \\* Not sure. A little pudgy but not extremely round. We can't weigh her.   History: \\* Adopted from local center.   Clinical signs: \\* Doesn't like being held. Fearful of people moving.   Duration: \\* all her life  Your general location: \\* NE US","c_root_id_A":"gbql7x4","c_root_id_B":"gbqhdiy","created_at_utc_A":1604943806,"created_at_utc_B":1604941964,"score_A":36,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Kittens, like puppies, have a period of time while growing up where they benefit most from socialization and handling. Many stray or feral kittens still retain some of their \"wild\" nature if they live outside during that time. There's also likely some naturally shy and anxious elements in her personality that's contributing to her behavior. While we know that their memories are quite good, PTSD is only a diagnosable condition in humans and it's far more likely that this is just who she is. And accidents happen to animals that live outside at a much greater rate than humans abuse them. It's way more likely she had a close encounter with a car and had to have her tail amputated and that story just didn't get communicated.  However, that doesn't necessarily mean that there's nothing you can do for her. Feliway is a great first step. It's great that you've already seen a positive change! Also ask your vet about prescribing gabapentin for vet visits. It's a great medication for just taking the edge off their anxiety without being overly sedating. At home, I would just make sure that she has lots of places to hide where she feels comfortable, like boxes and a blanket in a dark closet corner, etc. And that's the most that most cats of those nature will need.   If you really wanted to go above and beyond, you could do some behavioral work, like finding a game that she likes to play and trying to get her to play some every day, using a clicker and teaching tricks and useful behavior (like sitting on a scale, for example), and perhaps even talking with your vet about anti anxiety medication to see if it makes a positive difference for her.","human_ref_B":"This sounds like an ideal case for a licensed veterinary behaviorist. Check the sidebar and ask your vet for their local recommendation. They\u2019re not magicians, but if anything can help your kitty (other than what you\u2019ve already been doing), that\u2019s who I\u2019d look to. Best of luck, and great job so far!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1842.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"jqxryg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Traumatized Kitty  This is probably a little bit different than some posts here. My cat is pretty healthy physically. But I think she needs mental help and I don't know how to help her.   My cat's name is Bean. I adopted her from a local animal shelter 6 years ago. When I walked into the cat room, she immediately started purring, loud enough that I could hear her from across the room. When I walked over, I discovered she only has 2 inches of tail. It was freshly shaven as if it was from surgery (so no she's not a minx). When I asked the center, they said she came like that, and they didn't know what happened. I fell in love with her instantly      When I brought her home, she refused to leave her carrying case for almost 3 days. We had to tip her out eventually. But she got used to my room and feels at home there now. She did NOT get used to our other cat, and they have now become the upstairs cat and the downstairs cat.   Bean was very skiddish when we got her. She still is. She won't let you pick her up, but if she comes to you she's more than happy to sit next to you. If you move near her, she gets scared. My parents and I think that someone abused her by cutting off her tail, and that she has kitty PTSD.   It's been 6 years since I adopted her, and we've made a lot of progress. I can pull her onto my lap sometimes (not that she stays there), and she understands that I'm not going to hurt her. But she still will not let us carry her (or if she does it's not with her cooperating). She is terrified to go to the vet. The last time we had to bring her she released the scent glands cats have, which I had never seen a cat do before. She won't let me carry her to find out how heavy she is, but she looks like she needs to lose weight.      We've tried the pheromone sprayers, and it helped her be less aggressive with our other cat, but she's still super scared.   How can I help my traumatized cat?      TLDR: My cat is scared of being picked up, people moving near her, and is aggressive towards our other cat, even after 6 years. We think she has trauma and was abused. How can I help her?   &#x200B;  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  Species: Cat  Age: \\* 6   Sex\/Neuter status: \\* Neutered  Breed: \\* American Shorthair Cat (maybe? The adoption center wasn't sure)  Body weight: \\* Not sure. A little pudgy but not extremely round. We can't weigh her.   History: \\* Adopted from local center.   Clinical signs: \\* Doesn't like being held. Fearful of people moving.   Duration: \\* all her life  Your general location: \\* NE US","c_root_id_A":"gbqilxt","c_root_id_B":"gbql7x4","created_at_utc_A":1604942561,"created_at_utc_B":1604943806,"score_A":3,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Behaviour issues can sometimes be caused by underlying medical issues, so if Bean hasn\u2019t had a full physical exam in a while, you could try looking into a vet that will do a house all for you! If other medical reasons have been ruled out, Perhaps you could try just a telehealth consult with your vet? Either way you can discuss options and next steps without having to stress out poor Bean too much! You can also maybe discuss a referral to a veterinary behaviour specialist if the plans your regular vet have given you aren\u2019t working. Hope this helps!","human_ref_B":"Kittens, like puppies, have a period of time while growing up where they benefit most from socialization and handling. Many stray or feral kittens still retain some of their \"wild\" nature if they live outside during that time. There's also likely some naturally shy and anxious elements in her personality that's contributing to her behavior. While we know that their memories are quite good, PTSD is only a diagnosable condition in humans and it's far more likely that this is just who she is. And accidents happen to animals that live outside at a much greater rate than humans abuse them. It's way more likely she had a close encounter with a car and had to have her tail amputated and that story just didn't get communicated.  However, that doesn't necessarily mean that there's nothing you can do for her. Feliway is a great first step. It's great that you've already seen a positive change! Also ask your vet about prescribing gabapentin for vet visits. It's a great medication for just taking the edge off their anxiety without being overly sedating. At home, I would just make sure that she has lots of places to hide where she feels comfortable, like boxes and a blanket in a dark closet corner, etc. And that's the most that most cats of those nature will need.   If you really wanted to go above and beyond, you could do some behavioral work, like finding a game that she likes to play and trying to get her to play some every day, using a clicker and teaching tricks and useful behavior (like sitting on a scale, for example), and perhaps even talking with your vet about anti anxiety medication to see if it makes a positive difference for her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1245.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"jqxryg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Traumatized Kitty  This is probably a little bit different than some posts here. My cat is pretty healthy physically. But I think she needs mental help and I don't know how to help her.   My cat's name is Bean. I adopted her from a local animal shelter 6 years ago. When I walked into the cat room, she immediately started purring, loud enough that I could hear her from across the room. When I walked over, I discovered she only has 2 inches of tail. It was freshly shaven as if it was from surgery (so no she's not a minx). When I asked the center, they said she came like that, and they didn't know what happened. I fell in love with her instantly      When I brought her home, she refused to leave her carrying case for almost 3 days. We had to tip her out eventually. But she got used to my room and feels at home there now. She did NOT get used to our other cat, and they have now become the upstairs cat and the downstairs cat.   Bean was very skiddish when we got her. She still is. She won't let you pick her up, but if she comes to you she's more than happy to sit next to you. If you move near her, she gets scared. My parents and I think that someone abused her by cutting off her tail, and that she has kitty PTSD.   It's been 6 years since I adopted her, and we've made a lot of progress. I can pull her onto my lap sometimes (not that she stays there), and she understands that I'm not going to hurt her. But she still will not let us carry her (or if she does it's not with her cooperating). She is terrified to go to the vet. The last time we had to bring her she released the scent glands cats have, which I had never seen a cat do before. She won't let me carry her to find out how heavy she is, but she looks like she needs to lose weight.      We've tried the pheromone sprayers, and it helped her be less aggressive with our other cat, but she's still super scared.   How can I help my traumatized cat?      TLDR: My cat is scared of being picked up, people moving near her, and is aggressive towards our other cat, even after 6 years. We think she has trauma and was abused. How can I help her?   &#x200B;  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  Species: Cat  Age: \\* 6   Sex\/Neuter status: \\* Neutered  Breed: \\* American Shorthair Cat (maybe? The adoption center wasn't sure)  Body weight: \\* Not sure. A little pudgy but not extremely round. We can't weigh her.   History: \\* Adopted from local center.   Clinical signs: \\* Doesn't like being held. Fearful of people moving.   Duration: \\* all her life  Your general location: \\* NE US","c_root_id_A":"gbqhdiy","c_root_id_B":"gbqozzb","created_at_utc_A":1604941964,"created_at_utc_B":1604945621,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"This sounds like an ideal case for a licensed veterinary behaviorist. Check the sidebar and ask your vet for their local recommendation. They\u2019re not magicians, but if anything can help your kitty (other than what you\u2019ve already been doing), that\u2019s who I\u2019d look to. Best of luck, and great job so far!","human_ref_B":"If you can schedule a Facetime appointment with your vet you can have a discussion about your concerns and questions. Best part you eliminate the trip to the clinic since your cat is fearful, and show how your cat is doing in his environment. There are plenty of medications that can be used to help with anxiety and behaviors, but best first step is speaking with your vet. And if you ask, they can even refer you to a board certified behavior specialist.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3657.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jqxryg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Traumatized Kitty  This is probably a little bit different than some posts here. My cat is pretty healthy physically. But I think she needs mental help and I don't know how to help her.   My cat's name is Bean. I adopted her from a local animal shelter 6 years ago. When I walked into the cat room, she immediately started purring, loud enough that I could hear her from across the room. When I walked over, I discovered she only has 2 inches of tail. It was freshly shaven as if it was from surgery (so no she's not a minx). When I asked the center, they said she came like that, and they didn't know what happened. I fell in love with her instantly      When I brought her home, she refused to leave her carrying case for almost 3 days. We had to tip her out eventually. But she got used to my room and feels at home there now. She did NOT get used to our other cat, and they have now become the upstairs cat and the downstairs cat.   Bean was very skiddish when we got her. She still is. She won't let you pick her up, but if she comes to you she's more than happy to sit next to you. If you move near her, she gets scared. My parents and I think that someone abused her by cutting off her tail, and that she has kitty PTSD.   It's been 6 years since I adopted her, and we've made a lot of progress. I can pull her onto my lap sometimes (not that she stays there), and she understands that I'm not going to hurt her. But she still will not let us carry her (or if she does it's not with her cooperating). She is terrified to go to the vet. The last time we had to bring her she released the scent glands cats have, which I had never seen a cat do before. She won't let me carry her to find out how heavy she is, but she looks like she needs to lose weight.      We've tried the pheromone sprayers, and it helped her be less aggressive with our other cat, but she's still super scared.   How can I help my traumatized cat?      TLDR: My cat is scared of being picked up, people moving near her, and is aggressive towards our other cat, even after 6 years. We think she has trauma and was abused. How can I help her?   &#x200B;  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  Species: Cat  Age: \\* 6   Sex\/Neuter status: \\* Neutered  Breed: \\* American Shorthair Cat (maybe? The adoption center wasn't sure)  Body weight: \\* Not sure. A little pudgy but not extremely round. We can't weigh her.   History: \\* Adopted from local center.   Clinical signs: \\* Doesn't like being held. Fearful of people moving.   Duration: \\* all her life  Your general location: \\* NE US","c_root_id_A":"gbqozzb","c_root_id_B":"gbqilxt","created_at_utc_A":1604945621,"created_at_utc_B":1604942561,"score_A":15,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If you can schedule a Facetime appointment with your vet you can have a discussion about your concerns and questions. Best part you eliminate the trip to the clinic since your cat is fearful, and show how your cat is doing in his environment. There are plenty of medications that can be used to help with anxiety and behaviors, but best first step is speaking with your vet. And if you ask, they can even refer you to a board certified behavior specialist.","human_ref_B":"Behaviour issues can sometimes be caused by underlying medical issues, so if Bean hasn\u2019t had a full physical exam in a while, you could try looking into a vet that will do a house all for you! If other medical reasons have been ruled out, Perhaps you could try just a telehealth consult with your vet? Either way you can discuss options and next steps without having to stress out poor Bean too much! You can also maybe discuss a referral to a veterinary behaviour specialist if the plans your regular vet have given you aren\u2019t working. Hope this helps!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3060.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"fqm886","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"How do you know how much food a pet actually needs? I used to just do free choice because my first cat eats like a bird, but I now have a dog and two other cats who don't exercise as much restraint, so I started measuring their portions. I'm basically just going by what it says on the food packaging, but that seems very generic and impersonal. It definitely seems like some of my pets want more food throughout the day. The problem is that I don't know how to differentiate between a pet wanting more food because they lack nourishment (need) versus just wanting more because they like the taste of food (want). I had one cat before who died possibly from lipidosis, so I'm trying to keep the cats I have left from getting too fat. But I also don't want to starve them. Is there any way to tell the difference between them wanting and needing more food?","c_root_id_A":"flr1ll9","c_root_id_B":"flr1vel","created_at_utc_A":1585411052,"created_at_utc_B":1585411219,"score_A":7,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"You need to determine how many calories they need per day and how many calories are in whatever you are feeding  (you can likely find the info online or call the manufacturer).  If you provide your pets age and weight I can give you a rough idea of how many calories to feed","human_ref_B":"How much to feed does have to be individually adjusted though the bag gives you a starting point. Individual adjustments can be made by monitoring body weight and body condition for each animal (which your vet can help you with). It\u2019s inadvisable to change diet drastically without chatting with your vet. Some animals will just eat as much as you give and even beg though they don\u2019t \u201cneed\u201d the food. If your cats are a healthy weight you don\u2019t want to feed more. If they\u2019re overweight, you need a vet\u2019s advice how to safely help them lose weight (especially for cats).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":167.0,"score_ratio":8.8571428571}
{"post_id":"fqm886","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"How do you know how much food a pet actually needs? I used to just do free choice because my first cat eats like a bird, but I now have a dog and two other cats who don't exercise as much restraint, so I started measuring their portions. I'm basically just going by what it says on the food packaging, but that seems very generic and impersonal. It definitely seems like some of my pets want more food throughout the day. The problem is that I don't know how to differentiate between a pet wanting more food because they lack nourishment (need) versus just wanting more because they like the taste of food (want). I had one cat before who died possibly from lipidosis, so I'm trying to keep the cats I have left from getting too fat. But I also don't want to starve them. Is there any way to tell the difference between them wanting and needing more food?","c_root_id_A":"flr1ll9","c_root_id_B":"flr46xr","created_at_utc_A":1585411052,"created_at_utc_B":1585412620,"score_A":7,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"You need to determine how many calories they need per day and how many calories are in whatever you are feeding  (you can likely find the info online or call the manufacturer).  If you provide your pets age and weight I can give you a rough idea of how many calories to feed","human_ref_B":"If you struggle with one cat\/dog taking the others food, perhaps a microchip feeder would help.   It covers the food and only opens for the designated pet by checking it's microchip.  If you don't have a microchip (please get one!), you can use rfid tags that come with it, to put on their collar.   Covering their food makes the food last longer\/fresher for longer, keeps flies away.   It makes sure the right animal gets only their medicated food and no one else, so avoids expensive wastage.   If one pet is nil by mouth for an operation the next morning, the others can still eat from their chip feeders and you only have one unhappy pet then.  The one I am aware of is Sure Microchip feeders. They also make microchip pet doors.   They have come out with a new wifi feeder this last year with a integrated weigh scale. It logs how often they open the feeder, how much you put in, they eat etc. So it's useful for monitoring eating habits and spotting any worrying patterns or when trying to diet, via a phone app, though I've not tried this.   The original feeder is quite a lot cheaper now the new wifi one is out.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1568.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"fqm886","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"How do you know how much food a pet actually needs? I used to just do free choice because my first cat eats like a bird, but I now have a dog and two other cats who don't exercise as much restraint, so I started measuring their portions. I'm basically just going by what it says on the food packaging, but that seems very generic and impersonal. It definitely seems like some of my pets want more food throughout the day. The problem is that I don't know how to differentiate between a pet wanting more food because they lack nourishment (need) versus just wanting more because they like the taste of food (want). I had one cat before who died possibly from lipidosis, so I'm trying to keep the cats I have left from getting too fat. But I also don't want to starve them. Is there any way to tell the difference between them wanting and needing more food?","c_root_id_A":"flrcve4","c_root_id_B":"flr1ll9","created_at_utc_A":1585417646,"created_at_utc_B":1585411052,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Cat body condition score for reference.  * If your cat is underweight, you should feed more. * If your cat is at the ideal weight, you're good. * If your cat is overweight, you need to feed less.  That's all there is to it. The recommendations on the food bags are a good starting point, but after that, BCS is really the only measure that counts.","human_ref_B":"You need to determine how many calories they need per day and how many calories are in whatever you are feeding  (you can likely find the info online or call the manufacturer).  If you provide your pets age and weight I can give you a rough idea of how many calories to feed","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6594.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"ewegxp6","c_root_id_B":"eweifxu","created_at_utc_A":1565323742,"created_at_utc_B":1565325103,"score_A":46,"score_B":84,"human_ref_A":"If you have a spare sock it might be helpful to put it on his foot and tape it to stay up (not too tight, be careful of circulation). Licking will add more trauma to the area. A sock will prevent that and protect the bandage\u2014UNLESS he\u2019s the sort of dog who might eat a sock, because then you\u2019ll be in for an abdominal explore to fish it out.","human_ref_B":"Fellow long distance backpacker here - get your dear companion to a vet ASAP, so you can be sure to have many more wonderful adventures with them in the future!  It sucks to cut your hike short, trust me I\u2019ve been there, but just think, if YOUR foot got cut wide open mid-hike wouldn\u2019t you take yourself to a doctor?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1361.0,"score_ratio":1.8260869565}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"eweifxu","c_root_id_B":"ewec7co","created_at_utc_A":1565325103,"created_at_utc_B":1565319872,"score_A":84,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Fellow long distance backpacker here - get your dear companion to a vet ASAP, so you can be sure to have many more wonderful adventures with them in the future!  It sucks to cut your hike short, trust me I\u2019ve been there, but just think, if YOUR foot got cut wide open mid-hike wouldn\u2019t you take yourself to a doctor?","human_ref_B":"Unfortunately your dog's hike is done with.  There's no way he can continue with his paw that way.  The skin that peeled off is not going to reattach and your dog is going to find walking extremely painful for the next 72 hours (if not longer).    And just so you're aware, please do not use hydrogen peroxide like this in the future.  It is a chemical used to debride tissue (removing damaged tissue and other stuff) but has been shown to slow healing.  It's an effective agent for things like cleaning out decaying tissue\/pus\/etc, but it's not something that should be used to initially clean wounds.  It kills healthy cells along with the other stuff.  It also dries out tissue so trying to re-attach anything after is not going to work.  Similarly, don't use alcohol if you can avoid it.  The best treatment for 'minor' wounds is to wash with a mild soap and cool water - rinsing it continuously for at least 5 minutes is effective.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5231.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"ewec7co","c_root_id_B":"ewegxp6","created_at_utc_A":1565319872,"created_at_utc_B":1565323742,"score_A":18,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Unfortunately your dog's hike is done with.  There's no way he can continue with his paw that way.  The skin that peeled off is not going to reattach and your dog is going to find walking extremely painful for the next 72 hours (if not longer).    And just so you're aware, please do not use hydrogen peroxide like this in the future.  It is a chemical used to debride tissue (removing damaged tissue and other stuff) but has been shown to slow healing.  It's an effective agent for things like cleaning out decaying tissue\/pus\/etc, but it's not something that should be used to initially clean wounds.  It kills healthy cells along with the other stuff.  It also dries out tissue so trying to re-attach anything after is not going to work.  Similarly, don't use alcohol if you can avoid it.  The best treatment for 'minor' wounds is to wash with a mild soap and cool water - rinsing it continuously for at least 5 minutes is effective.","human_ref_B":"If you have a spare sock it might be helpful to put it on his foot and tape it to stay up (not too tight, be careful of circulation). Licking will add more trauma to the area. A sock will prevent that and protect the bandage\u2014UNLESS he\u2019s the sort of dog who might eat a sock, because then you\u2019ll be in for an abdominal explore to fish it out.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3870.0,"score_ratio":2.5555555556}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"ewex006","c_root_id_B":"ewfaael","created_at_utc_A":1565341688,"created_at_utc_B":1565355778,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Disinfect, bandage, put on a sock over it and tape it closed. Get to the vet.","human_ref_B":"Everyone has covered the vet stuff already, so thoughts for the future... If your dog will tolerate wearing them, hiking booties can go a long way in protecting your dog's feet during distance hikes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14090.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"eweje3v","c_root_id_B":"ewfaael","created_at_utc_A":1565325952,"created_at_utc_B":1565355778,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Backpacker\/vet, who takes his dog on long grueling trips. I would be cautious here, your pup doesn't run a ton of risk other than being very painful. The skin should heal, but in the meantime they'll be pretty tender on that foot. I don't know if you've ever had salt rot on the tops of your feet from unwashed feet\/socks during long hikes, but it would be like that, like having raw tissue but on the bottoms of your feet and every step being painful. Unfortunately, we sometimes have to turn back before our goal is reached while hiking, do your hiking partner a favor and hike back down and maybe one day they return the favor. Otherwise, expect a pup who will likely continue on to appease you despite being in some serious pain. I've seen dogs come in from wearing their pads raw on pavement and it requires a good bit of pain meds\/sedation to treat it. Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"Everyone has covered the vet stuff already, so thoughts for the future... If your dog will tolerate wearing them, hiking booties can go a long way in protecting your dog's feet during distance hikes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29826.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"cntyf0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"In a mountain expedition with a dog - no near vets. As the title stated i'm on a mountain expedition, i camp here alone with my dog, today we covered a lot of ground with my GSP, after we set camp i washed his paws, disinfected them and oiled them up after the tiring day with Neem oil, to treat the minor scratches, like my vet told me to do.  After a while of him licking his paws (i tought he was just licking the oil, he hates it), i inspected the paw and noticed his  C pad (the biggest) of the paw \"peeled off\" leaving a pink fresh flesh side underneath. It's like the rough \"cover\" peeled off. It was still hanging for 1cm leght so since i have a medkit i treated it with hydrogen peroxyde, set the peeled off skin on top of the exposed part and enveloped the whole paw with sterile bandage.   Please i can't see a vet right now and even tough i would like to continue the expedition i put my dog's health first and if he can't walk i'll arrange a trip home first thing tomorrow. Until then, Did i do the right move or should i open it again, cut the pad and let it rest fresh on the bandage?","c_root_id_A":"ewex006","c_root_id_B":"eweje3v","created_at_utc_A":1565341688,"created_at_utc_B":1565325952,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Disinfect, bandage, put on a sock over it and tape it closed. Get to the vet.","human_ref_B":"Backpacker\/vet, who takes his dog on long grueling trips. I would be cautious here, your pup doesn't run a ton of risk other than being very painful. The skin should heal, but in the meantime they'll be pretty tender on that foot. I don't know if you've ever had salt rot on the tops of your feet from unwashed feet\/socks during long hikes, but it would be like that, like having raw tissue but on the bottoms of your feet and every step being painful. Unfortunately, we sometimes have to turn back before our goal is reached while hiking, do your hiking partner a favor and hike back down and maybe one day they return the favor. Otherwise, expect a pup who will likely continue on to appease you despite being in some serious pain. I've seen dogs come in from wearing their pads raw on pavement and it requires a good bit of pain meds\/sedation to treat it. Best of luck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15736.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"9h00n7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax","c_root_id_A":"e68nf6j","c_root_id_B":"e68izmw","created_at_utc_A":1537334338,"created_at_utc_B":1537328688,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.","human_ref_B":"Sorry for you loss. I\u2019m sure she lived a content life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5650.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"9h00n7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax","c_root_id_A":"e68nf6j","c_root_id_B":"e68kfaz","created_at_utc_A":1537334338,"created_at_utc_B":1537330381,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3957.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"27q2x7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"[Meta] Woah, where did everyone just come from? This is usually a pretty quiet subreddit. Considering there are 464 users here right now, I assume we got linked from some large thread or something?","c_root_id_A":"ci39gr0","c_root_id_B":"ci3b3hk","created_at_utc_A":1402345457,"created_at_utc_B":1402348687,"score_A":4,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Here: http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskReddit\/comments\/27p6z3\/doctors_of_reddit_whats_something_youve_had_to\/ci33446","human_ref_B":"Cool - didn't know this was here. While not a vet (despite everyone expecting me to be one from the time I could walk) I have spent my entire life working with animals and now specialize in goat behavior, care, and health - a greatly under researched species.   What a great sub - I'll keep an eye out for any goat questions I can assist with - sadly I've found that veterinarians just don't have access to enough education about them in traditional schooling, though I've met a handful of *amazing* ones who have gone out of their way to educate themselves and learn how to handle and treat this very interesting domesticated species.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3230.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"m1spcd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Puppy had surgery and vet didn\u2019t give antibiotics and told us not to use Meloxicam. My puppy just got out of surgery. Yesterday they gave her meloxicam (0.18ml) and we were supposed to continue for 10 days after surgery.   After they surgery, they rang us and said that it went very well however she had diarrhoea. When we went to pick her up, vet said that she won\u2019t be given antibiotics and not to use meloxicam. She has a fentanyl patch and will be going in on Saturday for a new one.  She had a radial fracture in her forearm, so a 36mm plate was placed there. Vet said infection is one of the complications so I thought he would have given us some antibiotics.   I\u2019d love to hear your opinions on why he may have chosen to do this.","c_root_id_A":"gqfg2j7","c_root_id_B":"gqffy8s","created_at_utc_A":1615367766,"created_at_utc_B":1615367659,"score_A":108,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes antibiotics are quite hard on the digestive system, if the puppy had diarrhea, they probably decided to not give him anything in case it worsens it. However this is just a theory as to why, I suggest you maybe ask your vet directly. Good luck and hope your pup has a speedy recovery.","human_ref_B":"You should ask them directly as every case is unique. However, meloxicam when given in its oral form can exasperate gastrointestinal upset, so given that your dog had diarrhea it seems like a reasonable choice to forego that medication in lieu of another that may not have the same risk of GI side effects.  The meloxicam they gave would have been by injection (not oral) so without the same potential for GI upset.  The GI upset could have been cause by many different things.  They could have given her an antibiotic injection or felt antibiotics were not indicated.  AB\u2019s can mask signs of infection initially so this can be a reason to not dispense prophylacitically.   Ask your vet :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":107.0,"score_ratio":13.5}
{"post_id":"m1spcd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Puppy had surgery and vet didn\u2019t give antibiotics and told us not to use Meloxicam. My puppy just got out of surgery. Yesterday they gave her meloxicam (0.18ml) and we were supposed to continue for 10 days after surgery.   After they surgery, they rang us and said that it went very well however she had diarrhoea. When we went to pick her up, vet said that she won\u2019t be given antibiotics and not to use meloxicam. She has a fentanyl patch and will be going in on Saturday for a new one.  She had a radial fracture in her forearm, so a 36mm plate was placed there. Vet said infection is one of the complications so I thought he would have given us some antibiotics.   I\u2019d love to hear your opinions on why he may have chosen to do this.","c_root_id_A":"gqffy8s","c_root_id_B":"gqfger3","created_at_utc_A":1615367659,"created_at_utc_B":1615368080,"score_A":8,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You should ask them directly as every case is unique. However, meloxicam when given in its oral form can exasperate gastrointestinal upset, so given that your dog had diarrhea it seems like a reasonable choice to forego that medication in lieu of another that may not have the same risk of GI side effects.  The meloxicam they gave would have been by injection (not oral) so without the same potential for GI upset.  The GI upset could have been cause by many different things.  They could have given her an antibiotic injection or felt antibiotics were not indicated.  AB\u2019s can mask signs of infection initially so this can be a reason to not dispense prophylacitically.   Ask your vet :)","human_ref_B":"Antibiotics can mess up the bacteria of the intestines and not every surgery requires antibiotics (I don't know about this one, I'm still a student). So it can worsen her diarrhoea.   Meloxicam can also be damaging for the stomach and intestines. It can be a point of discussion if that really will be a problem in this specific case, but the vet gave a patch with painkillers instead. So it doesn't really matter I guess, as long as he will get pain killers.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":421.0,"score_ratio":3.625}
{"post_id":"m1spcd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Puppy had surgery and vet didn\u2019t give antibiotics and told us not to use Meloxicam. My puppy just got out of surgery. Yesterday they gave her meloxicam (0.18ml) and we were supposed to continue for 10 days after surgery.   After they surgery, they rang us and said that it went very well however she had diarrhoea. When we went to pick her up, vet said that she won\u2019t be given antibiotics and not to use meloxicam. She has a fentanyl patch and will be going in on Saturday for a new one.  She had a radial fracture in her forearm, so a 36mm plate was placed there. Vet said infection is one of the complications so I thought he would have given us some antibiotics.   I\u2019d love to hear your opinions on why he may have chosen to do this.","c_root_id_A":"gqffy8s","c_root_id_B":"gqfjawk","created_at_utc_A":1615367659,"created_at_utc_B":1615370888,"score_A":8,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"You should ask them directly as every case is unique. However, meloxicam when given in its oral form can exasperate gastrointestinal upset, so given that your dog had diarrhea it seems like a reasonable choice to forego that medication in lieu of another that may not have the same risk of GI side effects.  The meloxicam they gave would have been by injection (not oral) so without the same potential for GI upset.  The GI upset could have been cause by many different things.  They could have given her an antibiotic injection or felt antibiotics were not indicated.  AB\u2019s can mask signs of infection initially so this can be a reason to not dispense prophylacitically.   Ask your vet :)","human_ref_B":"This planned surgery would be considered \"clean\". Clean surgeries usually don't require antibiotic use, unless implants are involved, infection would be life threatening or the patient is high risk.  Your pup would therefore have qualified for antibiotic use due to the plate, however the vets seemed to outweigh the pros and cons considering the GIT issues (diarrhoea) and went with the decision of no AB to not worsen the gastric issues. Whether this was the right call is up in air, you'll have to wait and see wether infection develops or not.   Do you have a follow up appointment?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3229.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"m1spcd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Puppy had surgery and vet didn\u2019t give antibiotics and told us not to use Meloxicam. My puppy just got out of surgery. Yesterday they gave her meloxicam (0.18ml) and we were supposed to continue for 10 days after surgery.   After they surgery, they rang us and said that it went very well however she had diarrhoea. When we went to pick her up, vet said that she won\u2019t be given antibiotics and not to use meloxicam. She has a fentanyl patch and will be going in on Saturday for a new one.  She had a radial fracture in her forearm, so a 36mm plate was placed there. Vet said infection is one of the complications so I thought he would have given us some antibiotics.   I\u2019d love to hear your opinions on why he may have chosen to do this.","c_root_id_A":"gqffy8s","c_root_id_B":"gqg5w32","created_at_utc_A":1615367659,"created_at_utc_B":1615386791,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"You should ask them directly as every case is unique. However, meloxicam when given in its oral form can exasperate gastrointestinal upset, so given that your dog had diarrhea it seems like a reasonable choice to forego that medication in lieu of another that may not have the same risk of GI side effects.  The meloxicam they gave would have been by injection (not oral) so without the same potential for GI upset.  The GI upset could have been cause by many different things.  They could have given her an antibiotic injection or felt antibiotics were not indicated.  AB\u2019s can mask signs of infection initially so this can be a reason to not dispense prophylacitically.   Ask your vet :)","human_ref_B":"You should ask them what their reason was, but here\u2019s all the insight I can offer:  Postop antibiotics are not indicated unless there is already an infection. Antimicrobial resistance is a growing problem in both human medicine and veterinary medicine, so there\u2019s a bit of a push to be judicious in the use of antibiotics. Antibiotics are not substitutes for hygienic surgical and postoperative management. They may mask infection, but if the bone and implant get infected, the antibiotics don\u2019t penetrate well and the only option is to remove the implant. The earlier this is caught, the better. Keeping the incision clean and dry while restricting activity to prevent the incision from opening up are the best things that can be done post-op to prevent infection.   As for the melox, which is an NSAID, oral dosing is more likely to cause GI upset than injectable. So if your pup got diarrhea after the injectable melox, even if we don\u2019t know that it caused the diarrhea, it is perfectly reasonable to stop the oral dosing. NSAIDs can even cause GI ulceration in certain individuals, and can ecause kidney damage in dehydrated patients (diarrhea can dehydrate a pup pretty quickly). The fentanyl patch usually gives pretty good pain control, just make sure she doesn\u2019t go near a heating pad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19132.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"lkczc5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has been leaking brownish-red fluid nonstop - PLEASE HELP!!! My cat is a six year old calico who has not been spayed, roughly nine-to-ten pounds and has been to the vet once for a skin condition and was treated with steroids. She\u2019s had two pregnancies, the last one being in 2017. Our two mow cats have since been fixed and are all strictly indoors, eliminating the possibility of her getting pregnant elsewhere.   Roughly an hour ago, she woke me up with persistent pawing and mewing, asking for permission to jump up which is unusual for her since she rarely imitates cuddles. When I did let her up, I noticed a brownish-red fluid dripping from her rear-end, immediately sparking fear. She doesn\u2019t seem to be in any pain, but is meowing for affection and hasn\u2019t left my side in the whole hour she\u2019s been dealing with this. I was able to lift her tail and see that it was coming from the vagina, and it seems that every time she moves there\u2019s more and more fluid. She\u2019s settled down within the time I\u2019ve been writing this but I\u2019m still very worried that it could be something serious. I live in Nova Scotia so today is our heritage day meaning that the vet down the road is closed and the nearest emergency is a 30 minute drive and very costly... She also seems to be breathing funny now too. Please help.","c_root_id_A":"gnj49tc","c_root_id_B":"gnj37cy","created_at_utc_A":1613394224,"created_at_utc_B":1613393411,"score_A":136,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"The potential problems here warrant the drive to the ER. Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"I'm holding my fingers crossed for you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":813.0,"score_ratio":11.3333333333}
{"post_id":"lkczc5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has been leaking brownish-red fluid nonstop - PLEASE HELP!!! My cat is a six year old calico who has not been spayed, roughly nine-to-ten pounds and has been to the vet once for a skin condition and was treated with steroids. She\u2019s had two pregnancies, the last one being in 2017. Our two mow cats have since been fixed and are all strictly indoors, eliminating the possibility of her getting pregnant elsewhere.   Roughly an hour ago, she woke me up with persistent pawing and mewing, asking for permission to jump up which is unusual for her since she rarely imitates cuddles. When I did let her up, I noticed a brownish-red fluid dripping from her rear-end, immediately sparking fear. She doesn\u2019t seem to be in any pain, but is meowing for affection and hasn\u2019t left my side in the whole hour she\u2019s been dealing with this. I was able to lift her tail and see that it was coming from the vagina, and it seems that every time she moves there\u2019s more and more fluid. She\u2019s settled down within the time I\u2019ve been writing this but I\u2019m still very worried that it could be something serious. I live in Nova Scotia so today is our heritage day meaning that the vet down the road is closed and the nearest emergency is a 30 minute drive and very costly... She also seems to be breathing funny now too. Please help.","c_root_id_A":"gnj37cy","c_root_id_B":"gnj51dd","created_at_utc_A":1613393411,"created_at_utc_B":1613394796,"score_A":12,"score_B":66,"human_ref_A":"I'm holding my fingers crossed for you!","human_ref_B":"Breathing issue is not a joke. I\u2019d bring her to the ER","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1385.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"e57ija","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Rainbow crab lost all of his legs and I can\u2019t tell if he is dying or molting This is the first time owning a crab or an animal that molts, so I can\u2019t really tell whats going on cause I don\u2019t have firsthand experience.  Over the past month, he has been bathing alot in both his saltwater and freshwater, and I realized a month ago he was missing a leg. I just assumed that he fought with his crab friend (but there\u2019s no evidence that they did), so I wasn\u2019t too concerned about it until a few days later when he was dropping legs like crazy and becoming increasingly lethargic each day  He now doesnt have any legs except one, and is immobile. He moves his eyes like every 30 minutes or so, so he is still alive I think, but Idk if he is molting or dying.   A crab\u2019s average lifespan is 2-3 years, and I got this guy a year ago, so I have also assumed the possibility he could just be dying of old age  So, help?","c_root_id_A":"f9ifnou","c_root_id_B":"f9ic3ki","created_at_utc_A":1575335978,"created_at_utc_B":1575333408,"score_A":34,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet but i have had aquatic animals for a long time.   They can'tt molt if the water is not deep enough to fully submerge their body you need to give your crab more water or all the limbs fall off!","human_ref_B":"They molt submerged in water and try to hide and not move for awhile. This doesnt sound like molting.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2570.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"e57ija","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Rainbow crab lost all of his legs and I can\u2019t tell if he is dying or molting This is the first time owning a crab or an animal that molts, so I can\u2019t really tell whats going on cause I don\u2019t have firsthand experience.  Over the past month, he has been bathing alot in both his saltwater and freshwater, and I realized a month ago he was missing a leg. I just assumed that he fought with his crab friend (but there\u2019s no evidence that they did), so I wasn\u2019t too concerned about it until a few days later when he was dropping legs like crazy and becoming increasingly lethargic each day  He now doesnt have any legs except one, and is immobile. He moves his eyes like every 30 minutes or so, so he is still alive I think, but Idk if he is molting or dying.   A crab\u2019s average lifespan is 2-3 years, and I got this guy a year ago, so I have also assumed the possibility he could just be dying of old age  So, help?","c_root_id_A":"f9ic3ki","c_root_id_B":"f9ihyln","created_at_utc_A":1575333408,"created_at_utc_B":1575337584,"score_A":14,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"They molt submerged in water and try to hide and not move for awhile. This doesnt sound like molting.","human_ref_B":"I've never had rainbow crabs but I had hermit crabs so that's not too far off. Losing legs is bad, means it's stressed. Often an environmental issue. It doesn't look good...","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4176.0,"score_ratio":1.3571428571}
{"post_id":"dhso72","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is my cat a male or female? Hi r\/AskVet, First time cat owner here. I adopted this kitten from a woman I met on facebook and she told me that he was a male. I didn't think to question it, but now that he's getting to about the age where he needs to be neutered (about 7months old now) I have gotten to thinking... Shouldn't he have a scrotum? Or.... something? Heres a couple pictures of his bottom (sorry for poor picture quality, he's understandably a little camera shy)  http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/z676ilM  And the rest of him, not for identification but just because he (maybe she?) Is a cutie! http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/pj8eK7E  Thanks for the help!","c_root_id_A":"f3qf2zo","c_root_id_B":"f3q9hdl","created_at_utc_A":1571073768,"created_at_utc_B":1571071569,"score_A":141,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Congratulations, it's a girl! The anogenital distance (how much space there is between the anus and the genitals) tends to be larger in males. I would also expect a 7 month old male cat to have a scrotum with two descended testes. Finally, you can see a pretty well defined slot in the genitals, that's a vulva!","human_ref_B":"Second photo looks like calico coloring, which only happens in females (unless you have a super rare XXY male cat). First photo also looks female to me.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2199.0,"score_ratio":4.0285714286}
{"post_id":"dhso72","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is my cat a male or female? Hi r\/AskVet, First time cat owner here. I adopted this kitten from a woman I met on facebook and she told me that he was a male. I didn't think to question it, but now that he's getting to about the age where he needs to be neutered (about 7months old now) I have gotten to thinking... Shouldn't he have a scrotum? Or.... something? Heres a couple pictures of his bottom (sorry for poor picture quality, he's understandably a little camera shy)  http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/z676ilM  And the rest of him, not for identification but just because he (maybe she?) Is a cutie! http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/pj8eK7E  Thanks for the help!","c_root_id_A":"f3rvjf1","c_root_id_B":"f3qfsc4","created_at_utc_A":1571092599,"created_at_utc_B":1571074050,"score_A":27,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"As everyone else said, you've got yourself a girl, that is indeed a vulva. Make sure besides spaying ASAP, you get on track with the recommendated vaccination schedule and making sure you have all of your household needs addressed!","human_ref_B":"Female","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18549.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"yv0jze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/GFPGLCZ.jpg","c_root_id_A":"iwemvwq","c_root_id_B":"iwdb2hj","created_at_utc_A":1668477083,"created_at_utc_B":1668456718,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Can you warm the food and syringe feed to see if that makes a difference in how she receives food?","human_ref_B":"Has she had a full blood panel done?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20365.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yv0jze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/GFPGLCZ.jpg","c_root_id_A":"iwde4gk","c_root_id_B":"iwemvwq","created_at_utc_A":1668457907,"created_at_utc_B":1668477083,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Can you get a second opinion ?","human_ref_B":"Can you warm the food and syringe feed to see if that makes a difference in how she receives food?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19176.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"yv0jze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/GFPGLCZ.jpg","c_root_id_A":"iwde4gk","c_root_id_B":"iwdb2hj","created_at_utc_A":1668457907,"created_at_utc_B":1668456718,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Can you get a second opinion ?","human_ref_B":"Has she had a full blood panel done?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1189.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"mjmqdy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can a dog get an ingrown whisker? My puppy grew a sizeable lump on her mouth today after feeling warm yesterday. I took her into the vet where he pulled out a thick black wire with a point. We got antibiotics as she had a small fever. He didn't know what it was he pulled. Out, and said it was like a quill I looked at the lump and it lines up perfectly with her whiskers. Can dogs get severely ingrown \/ maybe infected? Whiskers? I didn't see much online about it after searching. Thank you so much for any insight","c_root_id_A":"gtbcmy8","c_root_id_B":"gtbbmy4","created_at_utc_A":1617508462,"created_at_utc_B":1617507773,"score_A":62,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"That's got to be one of those things that never gets studied, so there's zero literature to guide us. These things test a DVM's knowledge and you have to trust their judgment. Remember the critical thing is she gets better, regardless of whether we discover the exact diagnosis or not. Usually ingrown hairs\/whiskers result from some trauma (think of a beard whisker shaved close and ingrown developing a small pustule), which is rare in dogs, but could occur. Felines get acne, which seems similar, and technically a pup could experience the same thing.","human_ref_B":"I know horses can, so i\u2019d imagine a dog can too","labels":1,"seconds_difference":689.0,"score_ratio":1.7714285714}
{"post_id":"khw2t8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat has these breathing fits every so often. Should I be concerned? Video attached. https:\/\/streamable.com\/853dan  &#x200B;  I've seen it about 4\/5 times since I adopted her in August, and as far as I can tell for no rhyme or reason. She's about 11. I don't know anything about her medical history.","c_root_id_A":"ggnh2f9","c_root_id_B":"ggnpo02","created_at_utc_A":1608604100,"created_at_utc_B":1608608922,"score_A":18,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but you should definitely be concerned and bring her to a vet!","human_ref_B":"Looks like she's coughing. In cats coughing often comes in fits and resembles more of a \"wheeze\". Yes, she should see your vet for an exam. Chest xrays would be of helpful +\/- other tests.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4822.0,"score_ratio":3.1666666667}
{"post_id":"khw2t8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat has these breathing fits every so often. Should I be concerned? Video attached. https:\/\/streamable.com\/853dan  &#x200B;  I've seen it about 4\/5 times since I adopted her in August, and as far as I can tell for no rhyme or reason. She's about 11. I don't know anything about her medical history.","c_root_id_A":"ggnnrt2","c_root_id_B":"ggnpo02","created_at_utc_A":1608607835,"created_at_utc_B":1608608922,"score_A":7,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Yes. Take it to the vet.","human_ref_B":"Looks like she's coughing. In cats coughing often comes in fits and resembles more of a \"wheeze\". Yes, she should see your vet for an exam. Chest xrays would be of helpful +\/- other tests.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1087.0,"score_ratio":8.1428571429}
{"post_id":"khw2t8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat has these breathing fits every so often. Should I be concerned? Video attached. https:\/\/streamable.com\/853dan  &#x200B;  I've seen it about 4\/5 times since I adopted her in August, and as far as I can tell for no rhyme or reason. She's about 11. I don't know anything about her medical history.","c_root_id_A":"ggnh2f9","c_root_id_B":"ggnpqfl","created_at_utc_A":1608604100,"created_at_utc_B":1608608962,"score_A":18,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but you should definitely be concerned and bring her to a vet!","human_ref_B":"Your kitty is coughing, which can happen for a variety of reasons. Reduce all possible airway irritants (smoke, fragrances, essential oils, etc) and see your vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4862.0,"score_ratio":1.9444444444}
{"post_id":"khw2t8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat has these breathing fits every so often. Should I be concerned? Video attached. https:\/\/streamable.com\/853dan  &#x200B;  I've seen it about 4\/5 times since I adopted her in August, and as far as I can tell for no rhyme or reason. She's about 11. I don't know anything about her medical history.","c_root_id_A":"ggnnrt2","c_root_id_B":"ggnpqfl","created_at_utc_A":1608607835,"created_at_utc_B":1608608962,"score_A":7,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Yes. Take it to the vet.","human_ref_B":"Your kitty is coughing, which can happen for a variety of reasons. Reduce all possible airway irritants (smoke, fragrances, essential oils, etc) and see your vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1127.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"g0ivie","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"13 year old Jack Russell Terrier is constantly shaking. We know that she's old and dying but is there anything we can do in the meantime? Species: dog  Age: 13  Breed JRT  Weight: she's a heavy lump  Sex: female  Location: UK, South West  Diet: 1\/3 of a can of wet food (usually Chappies) and half a cup of dry biscuit (usually tailored from Tails)  Pre-existing conditions: phantom pregnancies that developed into ovarian tumors. Tumors have now reached her lungs.  Until recently, she's not shown any indication of distress at her tumors. She'd walk, poo and play as normal. She has access to a garden, sleeps well, etc. But recently she's been staring into space, not responding to her name and not wanting to go on walks. 3 days ago, she started shaking. She sits upright, her whole body trembles and she closes her eyes. She'll do this without stopping until somebody interrupts her. It isn't from the cold, she doesn't stop if she has her coat or blanket.   We would take her to a vet but we're quarantined and our normal vet is closed. Is there anything that we can do to ease her distress? Can we give her a big juicy steak as a special treat?   Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fna9y0m","c_root_id_B":"fna0zfv","created_at_utc_A":1586793756,"created_at_utc_B":1586788901,"score_A":58,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"I agree with everyone else but want to add: don't give her the big, juicy steak unless you're already decided on euthanasia the same day. It can add problems on top of problems to give her something so rich.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet: Call around anyways!! Try ER!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4855.0,"score_ratio":1.6111111111}
{"post_id":"g0ivie","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"13 year old Jack Russell Terrier is constantly shaking. We know that she's old and dying but is there anything we can do in the meantime? Species: dog  Age: 13  Breed JRT  Weight: she's a heavy lump  Sex: female  Location: UK, South West  Diet: 1\/3 of a can of wet food (usually Chappies) and half a cup of dry biscuit (usually tailored from Tails)  Pre-existing conditions: phantom pregnancies that developed into ovarian tumors. Tumors have now reached her lungs.  Until recently, she's not shown any indication of distress at her tumors. She'd walk, poo and play as normal. She has access to a garden, sleeps well, etc. But recently she's been staring into space, not responding to her name and not wanting to go on walks. 3 days ago, she started shaking. She sits upright, her whole body trembles and she closes her eyes. She'll do this without stopping until somebody interrupts her. It isn't from the cold, she doesn't stop if she has her coat or blanket.   We would take her to a vet but we're quarantined and our normal vet is closed. Is there anything that we can do to ease her distress? Can we give her a big juicy steak as a special treat?   Thank you","c_root_id_A":"fna9y0m","c_root_id_B":"fna39lq","created_at_utc_A":1586793756,"created_at_utc_B":1586790185,"score_A":58,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"I agree with everyone else but want to add: don't give her the big, juicy steak unless you're already decided on euthanasia the same day. It can add problems on top of problems to give her something so rich.","human_ref_B":"Call around and see if any other vets are opened. Some do emergencies (I would consider this a reason to go in) and some do a dropoff\/pickup service where you leave your dog at the door and they bring him in, or they collect him from your vehicle.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3571.0,"score_ratio":2.2307692308}
{"post_id":"ebyofv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat has become very reserved and depressed after other cat died. What can we do? I grew up with two cats, both of which have passed away this year at 15 years old. After the first one passed away last winter, we adopted a 6 year-old cat. At first she was pretty avoidant of us humans and had a tendency to run away if we approached, but over time she warmed up, let us give her treats, and absolutely adored being pet--she went seriously buckwild over it. She was still pretty skittish and would run away from you occasionally, but started to enjoy being around people more.  I left for college a couple months ago, and during that time we had to unexpectedly put down our other 15 year-old. My parents remarked on our 6 year-old being especially unhappy and avoidant, and now that I'm home I can see for myself how true that is. She refuses to come upstairs unless we're all completely quiet or it's night-time and nobody is around; she won't eat treats if we give them to her, or even acknowledge them; she sits underneath a bed downstairs all day, won't let us pet her, and sometimes walks around downstairs but will run away if we try to approach her. She used to love playing with toys and would run around upstairs chasing toys or would lounge in the sunlight, and now she just does nothing. Sometimes I hear her meowing very loudly, so I go to see what's up, and she'll just run from me back under the bed.  Is this grief? Is she depressed? What can we do to help her? It's been over a month since our other cat was put down. My parents intended on getting a couple more cats later on in the year, but we're wondering if it would be better to adopt now, if maybe our cat is just lonely and mourning. Any ideas?  I also apologize if this is not the right sub to post this in.","c_root_id_A":"fb8c6ux","c_root_id_B":"fb873y0","created_at_utc_A":1576610738,"created_at_utc_B":1576607587,"score_A":21,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Is she eating\/drinking\/eliminating normally? If not, this would be an ASAP visit versus non emergency. She absolutely should be examined, though.","human_ref_B":"Any change in behavior requires a vet visit to rule out a medical issue. Make an appointment now and go from there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3151.0,"score_ratio":1.2352941176}
{"post_id":"9nkmjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.  &#x200B;  She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.  &#x200B;  Backstory:  &#x200B;  I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.  &#x200B;  Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.  &#x200B;  With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.  &#x200B;  After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.  &#x200B;  Jump to the present:  &#x200B;  Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:  &#x200B;  1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....  &#x200B;  2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.  &#x200B;  2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.  &#x200B;  3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).  &#x200B;  Jump to today:  &#x200B;  I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.  &#x200B;  He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.  &#x200B;  So I agreed.  &#x200B;  Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.  &#x200B;  This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.  &#x200B;  Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.  &#x200B;  Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.  &#x200B;  She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.  &#x200B;  They explained this:  &#x200B;  They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.  &#x200B;  What the fuck?!?  &#x200B;  I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.  &#x200B;  But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.  &#x200B;  But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.  &#x200B;  The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.  &#x200B;  The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.  &#x200B;  I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.  &#x200B;  I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e7n94pr","c_root_id_B":"e7n5kdf","created_at_utc_A":1539363718,"created_at_utc_B":1539360702,"score_A":21,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you are very aware that with any amount or length of anesthesia there are risks. The biggest risk with propofol is apnea (stopping breathing). In most cases with healthy animals, their breathing slows down after the propofol is administered but not so much that they are in danger of dying, and after a breathing tube is placed and they are put on the anesthetic gas, they can be manually ventilated and their breathing becomes more stable. In the case of a senior dog with possible underlying conditions, it\u2019s possible that the decreased ventilation caused by the propofol was just too much for your dog to handle. As well, \u201csmushed face\u201d dogs have more difficulty breathing due to their anatomy. So it\u2019s also possible that the propofol caused hypoventilation or apnea and due to the anatomy of the dog combined with her age it was just too much for her. Regardless, it is a terrible thing to go through as an owner and please do not blame yourself, it is not your fault at all. Take care\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry for your loss, its obvious you  loved her and im sure she was a very happy dog, you did so much for her and tried to take care of her ailments, bless you. Maybe it was just her time, she could have gone that same day without the surgery, you said yourself you were having anxiety about it, and its obvious how connected you were with her.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3016.0,"score_ratio":1.05}
{"post_id":"9nkmjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.  &#x200B;  She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.  &#x200B;  Backstory:  &#x200B;  I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.  &#x200B;  Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.  &#x200B;  With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.  &#x200B;  After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.  &#x200B;  Jump to the present:  &#x200B;  Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:  &#x200B;  1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....  &#x200B;  2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.  &#x200B;  2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.  &#x200B;  3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).  &#x200B;  Jump to today:  &#x200B;  I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.  &#x200B;  He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.  &#x200B;  So I agreed.  &#x200B;  Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.  &#x200B;  This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.  &#x200B;  Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.  &#x200B;  Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.  &#x200B;  She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.  &#x200B;  They explained this:  &#x200B;  They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.  &#x200B;  What the fuck?!?  &#x200B;  I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.  &#x200B;  But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.  &#x200B;  But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.  &#x200B;  The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.  &#x200B;  The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.  &#x200B;  I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.  &#x200B;  I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e7n43yu","c_root_id_B":"e7n5kdf","created_at_utc_A":1539359456,"created_at_utc_B":1539360702,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry for your loss, its obvious you  loved her and im sure she was a very happy dog, you did so much for her and tried to take care of her ailments, bless you. Maybe it was just her time, she could have gone that same day without the surgery, you said yourself you were having anxiety about it, and its obvious how connected you were with her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1246.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"9nkmjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.  &#x200B;  She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.  &#x200B;  Backstory:  &#x200B;  I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.  &#x200B;  Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.  &#x200B;  With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.  &#x200B;  After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.  &#x200B;  Jump to the present:  &#x200B;  Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:  &#x200B;  1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....  &#x200B;  2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.  &#x200B;  2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.  &#x200B;  3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).  &#x200B;  Jump to today:  &#x200B;  I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.  &#x200B;  He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.  &#x200B;  So I agreed.  &#x200B;  Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.  &#x200B;  This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.  &#x200B;  Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.  &#x200B;  Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.  &#x200B;  She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.  &#x200B;  They explained this:  &#x200B;  They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.  &#x200B;  What the fuck?!?  &#x200B;  I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.  &#x200B;  But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.  &#x200B;  But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.  &#x200B;  The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.  &#x200B;  The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.  &#x200B;  I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.  &#x200B;  I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e7n94pr","c_root_id_B":"e7n43yu","created_at_utc_A":1539363718,"created_at_utc_B":1539359456,"score_A":21,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you are very aware that with any amount or length of anesthesia there are risks. The biggest risk with propofol is apnea (stopping breathing). In most cases with healthy animals, their breathing slows down after the propofol is administered but not so much that they are in danger of dying, and after a breathing tube is placed and they are put on the anesthetic gas, they can be manually ventilated and their breathing becomes more stable. In the case of a senior dog with possible underlying conditions, it\u2019s possible that the decreased ventilation caused by the propofol was just too much for your dog to handle. As well, \u201csmushed face\u201d dogs have more difficulty breathing due to their anatomy. So it\u2019s also possible that the propofol caused hypoventilation or apnea and due to the anatomy of the dog combined with her age it was just too much for her. Regardless, it is a terrible thing to go through as an owner and please do not blame yourself, it is not your fault at all. Take care\u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I am sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4262.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"9nkmjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.  &#x200B;  She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.  &#x200B;  Backstory:  &#x200B;  I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.  &#x200B;  Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.  &#x200B;  With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.  &#x200B;  After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.  &#x200B;  Jump to the present:  &#x200B;  Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:  &#x200B;  1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....  &#x200B;  2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.  &#x200B;  2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.  &#x200B;  3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).  &#x200B;  Jump to today:  &#x200B;  I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.  &#x200B;  He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.  &#x200B;  So I agreed.  &#x200B;  Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.  &#x200B;  This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.  &#x200B;  Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.  &#x200B;  Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.  &#x200B;  She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.  &#x200B;  They explained this:  &#x200B;  They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.  &#x200B;  What the fuck?!?  &#x200B;  I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.  &#x200B;  But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.  &#x200B;  But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.  &#x200B;  The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.  &#x200B;  The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.  &#x200B;  I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.  &#x200B;  I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e7n43yu","c_root_id_B":"e7ncv9v","created_at_utc_A":1539359456,"created_at_utc_B":1539366840,"score_A":7,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Im sorry that happened. It sounds like your vets were very thorough with the pre op BW and intent to xray. I\u2019m sure they are beating themselves up as well. The only way to truly be sure of the cause of death is a necropsy, however there are some conditions that wont show on that. Speculation is pointless as it could have been a plethora of factors- old age, underlying disease(s), acute onset of illness, blood clots, etc. Losing a pet is awful, but its even worse when its unexpected. Take some time to heal. Im sure it is still traumatic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7384.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"z5pfns","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Found a cat and I think something happened to it's face, got it an appointment to get vetted in two weeks but just wondering if maybe it needs to go somewhere now cause it looks whack **Species:** cat  **Age:** don\u2019t know  **Sex\/Neuter status:** don\u2019t know  **Breed:** don\u2019t know  **Body weight:** don\u2019t know  **History:** walked in through the dog door, he's free loading here now I guess   **Clinical signs:** its eyes look messed up, otherwise it acts fine  **Duration:** at least since I first seen it a week ago  **Your general location:** USA  **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.** don\u2019t got them, but here's a picture of his face https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/cmoLKjN","c_root_id_A":"ixy2c38","c_root_id_B":"ixz5nhy","created_at_utc_A":1669533130,"created_at_utc_B":1669561874,"score_A":2,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Call around for a rDVM or GP that has appointments open Monday. You\u2019ll likely find one that will work you in. He could have an eye or respiratory infection, but only your new vet will know this with certainty. If he does need to have eye surgery, you are correct noticing he\u2019s compensating very well for his limited vision as is. Good luck finding a regular vet! Hopefully, you\u2019re in a populated enough area, you\u2019ve got options. Since you\u2019re not a \u2018cat guy\u2019 I\u2019ll review a few things. Cats need high protein, low carbohydrate diet, with high moisture content to protect bladder and kidneys. Canned or wet food is best. A very small amount of dry is okay, per say, as long as it\u2019s Proplan, Orijen, Tikicat, Royal Canin, or similar at 1T or less per day. Scratching is a natural, instinctive behavior as is burying their elimination. Scratching posts and cardboard scratchers help them express this. High sided boxes spread throughout the home, with at least 2 for him, will really help him eliminate as frequently as he needs to. If you have a dog, you may want use dog gates with cat doors to keep the dog away from the litter boxes. Cats and dogs both get fleas and worms, including heart worms and intestinal parasitic worms. Prevention is key. Catego for fleas, Profender or Drontal for intestinal worms, Heartguard or Interceptor for heart worms and some intestinal worms are all necessary for cats. If cold season where you currently live, he still may have these from when he was with his mother and littermates in the warmer months before he found you.  He looks like he\u2019s at least 12 to 16 weeks old, so he is old enough to neuter. They could do this while checking his eyes closely. Neutering is an outpatient procedure.","human_ref_B":"Hey OP, as others have said, this shouldn\u2019t wait\u2026 but if funds are tight and you\u2019re not able to spring for emergency vet prices (understandable, considering this little criminal unexpectedly shows up in your life), try calling your vet as soon as they open, explain the situation, and see if they have any \u201curgent appointments.\u201d Many vets open up a few same-day spots for situations such as this. If your regular vet can\u2019t do it, ask them for a recommendation if they know someone who can (other than the emergency vet).   You might end up at the emergency hospital anyway, depending on the local availability of veterinary ophthalmologists, but it might be cheaper to start at the regular vet. Another option is to call any local vet ophthalmologists and see if they require a referral or if they\u2019d see you in this urgent situation. Most, however, do require a referral and want the animal to have been given a once-over by his primary vet\u2026  If you are unable to pay for or borrow money for treatment (check this sub\u2019s sidebar for ideas), please look into local rescues\/shelters\/as a last resort sometimes your vet will allow you to surrender the pet to them if you\u2019re unable to care for it. Just get him some help before he loses his eyesight permanently!   And please be sure to let your regular vet know, at his initial exam, that you\u2019re a first-time cat owner so they can fill you in on what to expect.  Best of luck to you and your new small masseuse!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":28744.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"urqw4w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is there anything I can do for a wild rabbit with ticks? There's a wild rabbit I visit at the park with a very distinct ear (it's missing a chunk). Using my binoculars yesterday I discovered this poor fella has a very engorged tick on its ear and a bunch of smaller ticks around the neck.  I can get within a few feet of the rabbit if I'm slow before it runs away. I know rabbits can die of a heart attack or shock from being caught so I'm wondering if there's anything i can do for it.  Here's a picture. You can see the large tick hanging off its ear.  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/Qzu7oxk  Thanks","c_root_id_A":"i900hcy","c_root_id_B":"i905rmo","created_at_utc_A":1652824614,"created_at_utc_B":1652827007,"score_A":22,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Contact your local vector control. They'll have options for tick control for the area.","human_ref_B":"It will fall off eventually but yeah, so many ticks. I live in tick country- like literally not far from Lyme Connecticut the birthplace of the dreaded disease. I hate them with a special passion. This rabbit should be ok, there\u2019s really not much you can do for them unfortunately but I applaud your kindness. Put Seresto collars on everything!! :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2393.0,"score_ratio":2.5454545455}
{"post_id":"itdki5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Are scented wax cubes harmful for cats? Hello!   I have an 8 year old cat, and I live with another roommate. Recently, my roommate has gotten into scented wax cubes where you put one into an electric warmer and it emits an aroma into the air. I will admit, it is quite pleasant walking back into my apartment and it smelling like fresh baked cinnamon rolls or a tropical drink. However, I have this fear that it could potentially be harmful for my cat?   I believe the wax cubes are made from fragrance oils and wax. I know that essential oils are harmful, but I couldn\u2019t find any information about fragrance oils.   My cat has not displayed any signs of illness. My cat acts the same and still eats fine. I just wanted to make sure that it is not slowly poisoning my cat, that\u2019s all. If so, I might have to ask my roommate to stop.   Does anyone know? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"g5ep22r","c_root_id_B":"g5ezul7","created_at_utc_A":1600206934,"created_at_utc_B":1600212502,"score_A":18,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"I think while typically advised to not have any candles around pets, essential oils is what I hear is best to avoid the most with all animals","human_ref_B":"Most of the toxicity information I've seen is about diffusers because the oil is released into the air and gets into their lungs and fur. Watch for coughing, difficulty breathing, loss of appetite and seizures, and make sure she always has access away from the warmer if she wants (i.e. never shut her in the room with the warmer)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5568.0,"score_ratio":1.3888888889}
{"post_id":"itdki5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Are scented wax cubes harmful for cats? Hello!   I have an 8 year old cat, and I live with another roommate. Recently, my roommate has gotten into scented wax cubes where you put one into an electric warmer and it emits an aroma into the air. I will admit, it is quite pleasant walking back into my apartment and it smelling like fresh baked cinnamon rolls or a tropical drink. However, I have this fear that it could potentially be harmful for my cat?   I believe the wax cubes are made from fragrance oils and wax. I know that essential oils are harmful, but I couldn\u2019t find any information about fragrance oils.   My cat has not displayed any signs of illness. My cat acts the same and still eats fine. I just wanted to make sure that it is not slowly poisoning my cat, that\u2019s all. If so, I might have to ask my roommate to stop.   Does anyone know? Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"g5eq472","c_root_id_B":"g5ezul7","created_at_utc_A":1600207500,"created_at_utc_B":1600212502,"score_A":18,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"From my understanding the reason why essential oils can be bad for kitties is bc it sprays a mist into the air with the oil in it that your kitties might inhale. Wax cubes are the same as candles, and are safe as long as your pets aren't playing with it","human_ref_B":"Most of the toxicity information I've seen is about diffusers because the oil is released into the air and gets into their lungs and fur. Watch for coughing, difficulty breathing, loss of appetite and seizures, and make sure she always has access away from the warmer if she wants (i.e. never shut her in the room with the warmer)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5002.0,"score_ratio":1.3888888889}
{"post_id":"fscznq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is it normal for my ancient cat to go spontaneously blind for a few hours sometimes? Hello everyone. This is about my female cat who is 18 years old, neutered, an indoor and outdoor cat, weighs less than 2 kilos (she is very small but also lost a lot of weight over the last 3 to 4 years), and we got her from a farmer in Germany, where we live, so we don\u2019t know her breed. She is definitely an old lady, she went deaf and she\u2019s a little wonky on her feet sometimes. Because of her age, I don\u2019t know if this is normal or if I should go to the vet. It happened like 3 times now that my cat went spontaneously blind for a few hours in the evening and into the night while her pupils were completely dilated. In the morning she was always better and her pupils were normal sized again, so at first we thought she probably ate something bad (We did notice her trying to eat soil from plant pots for a few days now). Today it happened again but in the middle of the day, she kept walking around bumping into furniture, we tried to calm her down with pets and right now she is asleep. We are getting more and more concerned by this. She is extremely scared of car rides so because of that and her age, we don\u2019t want to put that kind of stress on her unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary to take her to the vet.  Thank you so much for your help and let me know if you need any further information.","c_root_id_A":"fm0zg79","c_root_id_B":"fm0qinx","created_at_utc_A":1585669167,"created_at_utc_B":1585664141,"score_A":59,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"This cat needs to stay inside 24\/7 for the remainder of her life otherwise she\u2019ll likely walk off someday soon and never come back.   I would take her to the vet asap especially if it continues to gets worse.","human_ref_B":"I can\u2019t answer your questions but if she can\u2019t hear  and sometimes doesn\u2019t see very well please keep her inside or supervised when she is outside.  There are so many dangers outside for cats especially if they are not completely aware of her surroundings.  I hope you\u2019ll find the answers but I think only a vet can give it to you.  Best of luck","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5026.0,"score_ratio":1.18}
{"post_id":"fscznq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is it normal for my ancient cat to go spontaneously blind for a few hours sometimes? Hello everyone. This is about my female cat who is 18 years old, neutered, an indoor and outdoor cat, weighs less than 2 kilos (she is very small but also lost a lot of weight over the last 3 to 4 years), and we got her from a farmer in Germany, where we live, so we don\u2019t know her breed. She is definitely an old lady, she went deaf and she\u2019s a little wonky on her feet sometimes. Because of her age, I don\u2019t know if this is normal or if I should go to the vet. It happened like 3 times now that my cat went spontaneously blind for a few hours in the evening and into the night while her pupils were completely dilated. In the morning she was always better and her pupils were normal sized again, so at first we thought she probably ate something bad (We did notice her trying to eat soil from plant pots for a few days now). Today it happened again but in the middle of the day, she kept walking around bumping into furniture, we tried to calm her down with pets and right now she is asleep. We are getting more and more concerned by this. She is extremely scared of car rides so because of that and her age, we don\u2019t want to put that kind of stress on her unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary to take her to the vet.  Thank you so much for your help and let me know if you need any further information.","c_root_id_A":"fm0utnp","c_root_id_B":"fm0zg79","created_at_utc_A":1585666600,"created_at_utc_B":1585669167,"score_A":41,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"It is definitely necessary to take her to the vet if she is having episodes of blindness with normal sight in between. It's not exactly clear what you're saying, sorry!  Videos of the episodes would be helpful. You can call your vet and see about getting a medication to give ahead of time to make the car ride and visit less stressful.","human_ref_B":"This cat needs to stay inside 24\/7 for the remainder of her life otherwise she\u2019ll likely walk off someday soon and never come back.   I would take her to the vet asap especially if it continues to gets worse.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2567.0,"score_ratio":1.4390243902}
{"post_id":"fscznq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is it normal for my ancient cat to go spontaneously blind for a few hours sometimes? Hello everyone. This is about my female cat who is 18 years old, neutered, an indoor and outdoor cat, weighs less than 2 kilos (she is very small but also lost a lot of weight over the last 3 to 4 years), and we got her from a farmer in Germany, where we live, so we don\u2019t know her breed. She is definitely an old lady, she went deaf and she\u2019s a little wonky on her feet sometimes. Because of her age, I don\u2019t know if this is normal or if I should go to the vet. It happened like 3 times now that my cat went spontaneously blind for a few hours in the evening and into the night while her pupils were completely dilated. In the morning she was always better and her pupils were normal sized again, so at first we thought she probably ate something bad (We did notice her trying to eat soil from plant pots for a few days now). Today it happened again but in the middle of the day, she kept walking around bumping into furniture, we tried to calm her down with pets and right now she is asleep. We are getting more and more concerned by this. She is extremely scared of car rides so because of that and her age, we don\u2019t want to put that kind of stress on her unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary to take her to the vet.  Thank you so much for your help and let me know if you need any further information.","c_root_id_A":"fm23evc","c_root_id_B":"fm1un6i","created_at_utc_A":1585689896,"created_at_utc_B":1585685313,"score_A":15,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Your cat is spontaneously going blind. There is no question you need to take them to the vet.   No matter how much you hate the idea, you need to keep them inside for the rest of their life. No matter how much they love outside. Try a lead\/harness,  but otherwise,  they must be inside.   If you let them outside at her age with episodes of blindness, she will most likely be killed.  Keep your cat indoors, or she will pay with her life.","human_ref_B":"Check and see if there are any mobile vets in your area that come to the house.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4583.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"fscznq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is it normal for my ancient cat to go spontaneously blind for a few hours sometimes? Hello everyone. This is about my female cat who is 18 years old, neutered, an indoor and outdoor cat, weighs less than 2 kilos (she is very small but also lost a lot of weight over the last 3 to 4 years), and we got her from a farmer in Germany, where we live, so we don\u2019t know her breed. She is definitely an old lady, she went deaf and she\u2019s a little wonky on her feet sometimes. Because of her age, I don\u2019t know if this is normal or if I should go to the vet. It happened like 3 times now that my cat went spontaneously blind for a few hours in the evening and into the night while her pupils were completely dilated. In the morning she was always better and her pupils were normal sized again, so at first we thought she probably ate something bad (We did notice her trying to eat soil from plant pots for a few days now). Today it happened again but in the middle of the day, she kept walking around bumping into furniture, we tried to calm her down with pets and right now she is asleep. We are getting more and more concerned by this. She is extremely scared of car rides so because of that and her age, we don\u2019t want to put that kind of stress on her unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary to take her to the vet.  Thank you so much for your help and let me know if you need any further information.","c_root_id_A":"fm1un6i","c_root_id_B":"fm24ys1","created_at_utc_A":1585685313,"created_at_utc_B":1585690696,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Check and see if there are any mobile vets in your area that come to the house.","human_ref_B":"Do you think it is normal for your 90-year-old grandma to go spontaneously blind for a few hours sometimes, or should she go to the doctor for that?  Point being, you need to get your cat seen by the vet this week. Call them now and go from there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5383.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ei2eii","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat passed and it could be my fault... could it have been anything else?? I had to put my cat down today for low blood pressure that seemingly caused heart disease and fluid in the lungs.   Going forewords minoxidil (rogaine) is toxic to cats.  Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard).   Could have been something from outside, Something he ate (he was an avid hunter) another health problem,.. he had a propensity to getting worms and had bloody stools and some rectal disorder. Could have been genetics (a stray born on my porch) but the vet said my description fit (I warned her that there was a chance)   Could have been a nap on a couch pillow, or a passing kiss from his forgetful dad if that is truly all it would take.   Could anything else have caused his low blood pressure\/cardiac disease?   If I could go back, I would never have risked it. If there was even a small chance he could have lived. I thought if I was so careful, even if there was a molecules chance of passing, it wouldn\u2019t have done anything. Now I\u2019m left with this, and what I\u2019m hoping will be a bunch of you telling me that it wasn\u2019t the minox. Please be careful and also be kind if my post seems too dramatic or long. I\u2019m in the peak stages of grief.","c_root_id_A":"fcnis74","c_root_id_B":"fcn0usd","created_at_utc_A":1577812517,"created_at_utc_B":1577799990,"score_A":57,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"> Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard)  Then I don't think it was the Rogaine.  Cats in congestive heart failure often have low blood pressure and low body temperature. Congestive heart failure is typically caused by a structural heart abnormality which is unfortunately common in cats and can be hard to detect (the heart often sounds normal).  Sorry about your kitty, but this 100% was bad luck and not your fault.","human_ref_B":"Where is the evidence for hypotension or cardiac disease? Did your cat have an echocardiogram performed? What other diagnostics were performed? Please try not to feel responsible. I realise that's more easily said than done but I doubt you're responsible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12527.0,"score_ratio":2.1111111111}
{"post_id":"ei2eii","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat passed and it could be my fault... could it have been anything else?? I had to put my cat down today for low blood pressure that seemingly caused heart disease and fluid in the lungs.   Going forewords minoxidil (rogaine) is toxic to cats.  Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard).   Could have been something from outside, Something he ate (he was an avid hunter) another health problem,.. he had a propensity to getting worms and had bloody stools and some rectal disorder. Could have been genetics (a stray born on my porch) but the vet said my description fit (I warned her that there was a chance)   Could have been a nap on a couch pillow, or a passing kiss from his forgetful dad if that is truly all it would take.   Could anything else have caused his low blood pressure\/cardiac disease?   If I could go back, I would never have risked it. If there was even a small chance he could have lived. I thought if I was so careful, even if there was a molecules chance of passing, it wouldn\u2019t have done anything. Now I\u2019m left with this, and what I\u2019m hoping will be a bunch of you telling me that it wasn\u2019t the minox. Please be careful and also be kind if my post seems too dramatic or long. I\u2019m in the peak stages of grief.","c_root_id_A":"fcn9odr","c_root_id_B":"fcnis74","created_at_utc_A":1577806826,"created_at_utc_B":1577812517,"score_A":15,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, however heart disease can truly be completely idiopathic, even in young cats.","human_ref_B":"> Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard)  Then I don't think it was the Rogaine.  Cats in congestive heart failure often have low blood pressure and low body temperature. Congestive heart failure is typically caused by a structural heart abnormality which is unfortunately common in cats and can be hard to detect (the heart often sounds normal).  Sorry about your kitty, but this 100% was bad luck and not your fault.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5691.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"ei2eii","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat passed and it could be my fault... could it have been anything else?? I had to put my cat down today for low blood pressure that seemingly caused heart disease and fluid in the lungs.   Going forewords minoxidil (rogaine) is toxic to cats.  Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard).   Could have been something from outside, Something he ate (he was an avid hunter) another health problem,.. he had a propensity to getting worms and had bloody stools and some rectal disorder. Could have been genetics (a stray born on my porch) but the vet said my description fit (I warned her that there was a chance)   Could have been a nap on a couch pillow, or a passing kiss from his forgetful dad if that is truly all it would take.   Could anything else have caused his low blood pressure\/cardiac disease?   If I could go back, I would never have risked it. If there was even a small chance he could have lived. I thought if I was so careful, even if there was a molecules chance of passing, it wouldn\u2019t have done anything. Now I\u2019m left with this, and what I\u2019m hoping will be a bunch of you telling me that it wasn\u2019t the minox. Please be careful and also be kind if my post seems too dramatic or long. I\u2019m in the peak stages of grief.","c_root_id_A":"fcnis74","c_root_id_B":"fcngk6m","created_at_utc_A":1577812517,"created_at_utc_B":1577811262,"score_A":57,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"> Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard)  Then I don't think it was the Rogaine.  Cats in congestive heart failure often have low blood pressure and low body temperature. Congestive heart failure is typically caused by a structural heart abnormality which is unfortunately common in cats and can be hard to detect (the heart often sounds normal).  Sorry about your kitty, but this 100% was bad luck and not your fault.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I\u2019m very sorry for your loss. You sound like a good cat dad. I\u2019m sure your cat felt you were an awesome cat dad too.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1255.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ei2eii","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat passed and it could be my fault... could it have been anything else?? I had to put my cat down today for low blood pressure that seemingly caused heart disease and fluid in the lungs.   Going forewords minoxidil (rogaine) is toxic to cats.  Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard).   Could have been something from outside, Something he ate (he was an avid hunter) another health problem,.. he had a propensity to getting worms and had bloody stools and some rectal disorder. Could have been genetics (a stray born on my porch) but the vet said my description fit (I warned her that there was a chance)   Could have been a nap on a couch pillow, or a passing kiss from his forgetful dad if that is truly all it would take.   Could anything else have caused his low blood pressure\/cardiac disease?   If I could go back, I would never have risked it. If there was even a small chance he could have lived. I thought if I was so careful, even if there was a molecules chance of passing, it wouldn\u2019t have done anything. Now I\u2019m left with this, and what I\u2019m hoping will be a bunch of you telling me that it wasn\u2019t the minox. Please be careful and also be kind if my post seems too dramatic or long. I\u2019m in the peak stages of grief.","c_root_id_A":"fcnis74","c_root_id_B":"fcnf8ci","created_at_utc_A":1577812517,"created_at_utc_B":1577810494,"score_A":57,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"> Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard)  Then I don't think it was the Rogaine.  Cats in congestive heart failure often have low blood pressure and low body temperature. Congestive heart failure is typically caused by a structural heart abnormality which is unfortunately common in cats and can be hard to detect (the heart often sounds normal).  Sorry about your kitty, but this 100% was bad luck and not your fault.","human_ref_B":"Unless you actually saw him eat some of the medication I wouldn't blame yourself.  I find it extremely likely that just a kiss or a cuddle would be enough to expose him to the medication.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2023.0,"score_ratio":7.125}
{"post_id":"ei2eii","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My cat passed and it could be my fault... could it have been anything else?? I had to put my cat down today for low blood pressure that seemingly caused heart disease and fluid in the lungs.   Going forewords minoxidil (rogaine) is toxic to cats.  Rogaine user for 6 months, religiously cleaned my hands, stored it away, and never touched him if it was on my face (I used it for my beard).   Could have been something from outside, Something he ate (he was an avid hunter) another health problem,.. he had a propensity to getting worms and had bloody stools and some rectal disorder. Could have been genetics (a stray born on my porch) but the vet said my description fit (I warned her that there was a chance)   Could have been a nap on a couch pillow, or a passing kiss from his forgetful dad if that is truly all it would take.   Could anything else have caused his low blood pressure\/cardiac disease?   If I could go back, I would never have risked it. If there was even a small chance he could have lived. I thought if I was so careful, even if there was a molecules chance of passing, it wouldn\u2019t have done anything. Now I\u2019m left with this, and what I\u2019m hoping will be a bunch of you telling me that it wasn\u2019t the minox. Please be careful and also be kind if my post seems too dramatic or long. I\u2019m in the peak stages of grief.","c_root_id_A":"fcngk6m","c_root_id_B":"fcnf8ci","created_at_utc_A":1577811262,"created_at_utc_B":1577810494,"score_A":9,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I\u2019m very sorry for your loss. You sound like a good cat dad. I\u2019m sure your cat felt you were an awesome cat dad too.","human_ref_B":"Unless you actually saw him eat some of the medication I wouldn't blame yourself.  I find it extremely likely that just a kiss or a cuddle would be enough to expose him to the medication.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":768.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"bnqryi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"When my dog is making distressed noises in his sleep, should I wake him up or leave him alone? my dog sometimes yips in his sleep. He's a big dog and the only time he would make noises like that when he was awake would be if he was scared or being hurt. Should I gently wake him up when I feel he's having a dream that might actually be a nightmare, or should I let it play out by itself without interference?","c_root_id_A":"en8y93k","c_root_id_B":"en99hkw","created_at_utc_A":1557691686,"created_at_utc_B":1557697270,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"No problem, it's ok, normal behavior, but be alert for another signs","human_ref_B":"I have wondered the same, but I worry about interrupting their REM and deep sleep cycle by waking them up. Dreams are important, even the scary ones!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5584.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"bbbh26","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Wild young bunny almost drowned in my pond. Did I do the right thing? I\u2019m posting this after the fact just asking for hindsight advice in case this ever happens to myself or anyone in the future since it\u2019s bunny season where I live right now.   So I was outside this morning taking care of one of my animals when I passed one of my fish ponds (no fish yet) and saw a little brown body floating in it. I went to pick it up with a stick thinking it was just a drowned bird or something and noticed the ears and fur. It was a wild bunny and when I moved it slightly, I saw the nose twitch faintly so I quickly picked it out of the water and wrapped it up in a towel. It wasn\u2019t moving at first aside from the nose twitch and was completely stiff and otherwise unresponsive. Eyes were half-open and I honestly wasn\u2019t sure it would live.  I tried to google the age of it to see if it was still nursing and determined that it was between 3-6 weeks and probably fell in the pond while exploring outside the nest. I decided not to attempt to feed it and just held it in a small towel to dry it off\/warm it up. Eventually, I felt it start to shiver and took that as a good sign that its muscles were warming up enough to shiver. I had to get ready for school, so I rested it in a dark area still wrapped loosely in a new dry towel. I noticed it start to look around and show interest in its surroundings, then it sat up out of the towel (no longer shaking). Seeing it was dried off and far more alert than when I originally found it, I went to pick it up and it started hopping. I eventually caught it with the towel and brought it outside into the grass slightly away from the pond but near where I assumed the nest might be. I watched it to make sure it didn\u2019t start shivering again and lightly poked its rump to make sure it was still able to move. Everything seemed okay, so I left.  So my question is, did I do the right thing? Is there any part that I should\u2019ve done differently? The bunny seemed fine and I didn\u2019t want to keep it inside until I got home, so I let it go in what I deemed a good area but I\u2019m second-guessing if there was a better way to do things or if this was the best thing I could\u2019ve done for it. I hope this never happens again, but in the worst case it does, I want to be better prepared with how to handle it.","c_root_id_A":"ekhu4om","c_root_id_B":"ekhpyqo","created_at_utc_A":1554839987,"created_at_utc_B":1554837263,"score_A":78,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"The only other thing you really could have done was call a wildlife rehab. Baby bunnies were notoriously hard to keep alive and this guy seemed to get up and go which is a positive.   It sounds like you did everything right. Didn\u2019t interact with it too much, didn\u2019t try to feed it, and saved it from drowning. I say good job.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m not a vet so I honestly can\u2019t say (sorry hope I\u2019m allowed to comment!) but just want to say thank you for saving the little guy! You\u2019re good people","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2724.0,"score_ratio":1.9024390244}
{"post_id":"bbbh26","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Wild young bunny almost drowned in my pond. Did I do the right thing? I\u2019m posting this after the fact just asking for hindsight advice in case this ever happens to myself or anyone in the future since it\u2019s bunny season where I live right now.   So I was outside this morning taking care of one of my animals when I passed one of my fish ponds (no fish yet) and saw a little brown body floating in it. I went to pick it up with a stick thinking it was just a drowned bird or something and noticed the ears and fur. It was a wild bunny and when I moved it slightly, I saw the nose twitch faintly so I quickly picked it out of the water and wrapped it up in a towel. It wasn\u2019t moving at first aside from the nose twitch and was completely stiff and otherwise unresponsive. Eyes were half-open and I honestly wasn\u2019t sure it would live.  I tried to google the age of it to see if it was still nursing and determined that it was between 3-6 weeks and probably fell in the pond while exploring outside the nest. I decided not to attempt to feed it and just held it in a small towel to dry it off\/warm it up. Eventually, I felt it start to shiver and took that as a good sign that its muscles were warming up enough to shiver. I had to get ready for school, so I rested it in a dark area still wrapped loosely in a new dry towel. I noticed it start to look around and show interest in its surroundings, then it sat up out of the towel (no longer shaking). Seeing it was dried off and far more alert than when I originally found it, I went to pick it up and it started hopping. I eventually caught it with the towel and brought it outside into the grass slightly away from the pond but near where I assumed the nest might be. I watched it to make sure it didn\u2019t start shivering again and lightly poked its rump to make sure it was still able to move. Everything seemed okay, so I left.  So my question is, did I do the right thing? Is there any part that I should\u2019ve done differently? The bunny seemed fine and I didn\u2019t want to keep it inside until I got home, so I let it go in what I deemed a good area but I\u2019m second-guessing if there was a better way to do things or if this was the best thing I could\u2019ve done for it. I hope this never happens again, but in the worst case it does, I want to be better prepared with how to handle it.","c_root_id_A":"eki7cmp","c_root_id_B":"ekihggd","created_at_utc_A":1554849154,"created_at_utc_B":1554856815,"score_A":13,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Short of taking it to a wildlife center (there aren't many vets willing to work on wild animals) there is nothing else you could have reasonably done. Kudos for pulling him out of the water and warming him up!","human_ref_B":"Yep! You did great. Hopefully he is able to find his nest again. He probably fell in the pond, looking for a drink of water. You may want to set a pile of rocks or gravel in the water, leading up out of the pond for any more small animals\/birds that may fall in. The rocks can act like a ramp, allowing them something to pull themselves up onto.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7661.0,"score_ratio":1.5384615385}
{"post_id":"bbbh26","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Wild young bunny almost drowned in my pond. Did I do the right thing? I\u2019m posting this after the fact just asking for hindsight advice in case this ever happens to myself or anyone in the future since it\u2019s bunny season where I live right now.   So I was outside this morning taking care of one of my animals when I passed one of my fish ponds (no fish yet) and saw a little brown body floating in it. I went to pick it up with a stick thinking it was just a drowned bird or something and noticed the ears and fur. It was a wild bunny and when I moved it slightly, I saw the nose twitch faintly so I quickly picked it out of the water and wrapped it up in a towel. It wasn\u2019t moving at first aside from the nose twitch and was completely stiff and otherwise unresponsive. Eyes were half-open and I honestly wasn\u2019t sure it would live.  I tried to google the age of it to see if it was still nursing and determined that it was between 3-6 weeks and probably fell in the pond while exploring outside the nest. I decided not to attempt to feed it and just held it in a small towel to dry it off\/warm it up. Eventually, I felt it start to shiver and took that as a good sign that its muscles were warming up enough to shiver. I had to get ready for school, so I rested it in a dark area still wrapped loosely in a new dry towel. I noticed it start to look around and show interest in its surroundings, then it sat up out of the towel (no longer shaking). Seeing it was dried off and far more alert than when I originally found it, I went to pick it up and it started hopping. I eventually caught it with the towel and brought it outside into the grass slightly away from the pond but near where I assumed the nest might be. I watched it to make sure it didn\u2019t start shivering again and lightly poked its rump to make sure it was still able to move. Everything seemed okay, so I left.  So my question is, did I do the right thing? Is there any part that I should\u2019ve done differently? The bunny seemed fine and I didn\u2019t want to keep it inside until I got home, so I let it go in what I deemed a good area but I\u2019m second-guessing if there was a better way to do things or if this was the best thing I could\u2019ve done for it. I hope this never happens again, but in the worst case it does, I want to be better prepared with how to handle it.","c_root_id_A":"ekihggd","c_root_id_B":"ekid3za","created_at_utc_A":1554856815,"created_at_utc_B":1554853525,"score_A":20,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Yep! You did great. Hopefully he is able to find his nest again. He probably fell in the pond, looking for a drink of water. You may want to set a pile of rocks or gravel in the water, leading up out of the pond for any more small animals\/birds that may fall in. The rocks can act like a ramp, allowing them something to pull themselves up onto.","human_ref_B":"Warming him up and getting him dry was the best thing you could do! In the future, you can usually call the vet and see if they know of any wildlife rehabilitators in your area that can help! Don\u2019t overthink things, that bunny wouldn\u2019t have made it out of that pond if it weren\u2019t for you, so great work!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3290.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"arywjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Cat died 3 years ago; Need closure My cat died 3 years ago and I've been thinking about it a lot recently. It was due to a freak accident (saddle thrombus). She was healthy her whole life (15 years) so this came as a major shock to my whole family.  I remember the morning of her death we were cuddling in bed like always. We were always really close. I got up and got ready for work. Around 1:00 I received a call from my mom asking me if I fed the cat something strange because she was foaming at the mouth, screaming, with her hind legs paralyzed. I was pretty freaked out so immediately tried to get coverage for my lifeguard shift, but none of my coworkers could come in. I left the pool anyway because I couldn't not see my cat before she potentially died.  Upon my arrival the vet explained that there was pretty much no way she was going to live and that she'd need to be euthanized. She was already hopped up on a lot of drugs\/tranquilizers and her pupils were so big as she lied on the table almost lifeless. I couldn't tell if she noticed me or not...she wasn't moving her body or her eyes, just staring into the abyss. I wanted to stay for the euthanasia but at the same time was worried about leaving work with no lifeguard present. I was already disciplined once by my boss and was afraid of being fired- in hindsight this was a stupid thought process that I deeply regret. I said bye to my cat and left before she was put to sleep. I deeply regret that I wasn't able to be with her in her last moments. So, my question is, did she sense my presence when I was last in the room with her? Do you think she was worried that I wasn't with her as she was dying?","c_root_id_A":"egrtrac","c_root_id_B":"egrirpc","created_at_utc_A":1550542089,"created_at_utc_B":1550533010,"score_A":11,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s important to remember that even though you left, she wasn\u2019t alone. She had a vet and vet assistants with her, one of them probably cradled her in their arms while the shots were being administered, they would have stayed with her till she was gone, and told her what a good kitty she was. She would have been very drugged up and not registering her surroundings, but someone would still have held her close and made sure her last moments were peaceful. They whispered kind things to her and told her how sorry they were. She was comforted and she wasn\u2019t in pain. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"They probably were too hopped up on drugs to notice anything, dont beat yourself up over it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9079.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"arywjn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Cat died 3 years ago; Need closure My cat died 3 years ago and I've been thinking about it a lot recently. It was due to a freak accident (saddle thrombus). She was healthy her whole life (15 years) so this came as a major shock to my whole family.  I remember the morning of her death we were cuddling in bed like always. We were always really close. I got up and got ready for work. Around 1:00 I received a call from my mom asking me if I fed the cat something strange because she was foaming at the mouth, screaming, with her hind legs paralyzed. I was pretty freaked out so immediately tried to get coverage for my lifeguard shift, but none of my coworkers could come in. I left the pool anyway because I couldn't not see my cat before she potentially died.  Upon my arrival the vet explained that there was pretty much no way she was going to live and that she'd need to be euthanized. She was already hopped up on a lot of drugs\/tranquilizers and her pupils were so big as she lied on the table almost lifeless. I couldn't tell if she noticed me or not...she wasn't moving her body or her eyes, just staring into the abyss. I wanted to stay for the euthanasia but at the same time was worried about leaving work with no lifeguard present. I was already disciplined once by my boss and was afraid of being fired- in hindsight this was a stupid thought process that I deeply regret. I said bye to my cat and left before she was put to sleep. I deeply regret that I wasn't able to be with her in her last moments. So, my question is, did she sense my presence when I was last in the room with her? Do you think she was worried that I wasn't with her as she was dying?","c_root_id_A":"egrojp4","c_root_id_B":"egrtrac","created_at_utc_A":1550537809,"created_at_utc_B":1550542089,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Whatever happened, I'm sure your cat knows that you loved her. You gave her cuddles that morning and you made every effort to see her.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s important to remember that even though you left, she wasn\u2019t alone. She had a vet and vet assistants with her, one of them probably cradled her in their arms while the shots were being administered, they would have stayed with her till she was gone, and told her what a good kitty she was. She would have been very drugged up and not registering her surroundings, but someone would still have held her close and made sure her last moments were peaceful. They whispered kind things to her and told her how sorry they were. She was comforted and she wasn\u2019t in pain. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4280.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iep5atf","c_root_id_B":"ieovxks","created_at_utc_A":1656857352,"created_at_utc_B":1656852254,"score_A":96,"score_B":81,"human_ref_A":"It's ER time. She can't wait for your vet to open. At 3 days without food her risk of hepatic lipidosis is very high.","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet.  If you're concerned enough to post this, it sounds like you would feel much better to have your cat evaluated at the emergency vet rather than wait. Note that they may not be able to provide a stronger diagnosis right away and would focus on supportive care until an internist or oncologist could consult, which, if you're in the states, might not happen until Tuesday due to the holiday weekend.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5098.0,"score_ratio":1.1851851852}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieq00dq","c_root_id_B":"iepcmbe","created_at_utc_A":1656870547,"created_at_utc_B":1656860654,"score_A":30,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"ER now.","human_ref_B":"(I am not a vet) You mention she's old, how old is she exactly?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9893.0,"score_ratio":2.3076923077}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iepiltq","c_root_id_B":"ieq00dq","created_at_utc_A":1656863255,"created_at_utc_B":1656870547,"score_A":10,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"At this point, you probably have pancratitis setting in if it wasn't already a thing. ER! NOW! GOOOOOOOO","human_ref_B":"ER now.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7292.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iepcmbe","c_root_id_B":"ieqccvg","created_at_utc_A":1656860654,"created_at_utc_B":1656875954,"score_A":13,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"(I am not a vet) You mention she's old, how old is she exactly?","human_ref_B":"Go to the ER. You\u2019ll feel better waiting there in the waiting room than waiting at home. And in the event of a medical emergency, if her condition suddenly worsens or she has a seizure or anything, they can intervene right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15300.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieqccvg","c_root_id_B":"iepiltq","created_at_utc_A":1656875954,"created_at_utc_B":1656863255,"score_A":24,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Go to the ER. You\u2019ll feel better waiting there in the waiting room than waiting at home. And in the event of a medical emergency, if her condition suddenly worsens or she has a seizure or anything, they can intervene right away.","human_ref_B":"At this point, you probably have pancratitis setting in if it wasn't already a thing. ER! NOW! GOOOOOOOO","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12699.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieqccvg","c_root_id_B":"ieq9nt2","created_at_utc_A":1656875954,"created_at_utc_B":1656874764,"score_A":24,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Go to the ER. You\u2019ll feel better waiting there in the waiting room than waiting at home. And in the event of a medical emergency, if her condition suddenly worsens or she has a seizure or anything, they can intervene right away.","human_ref_B":"go to an ER. find one with care credit or scratchpay options if finances are a concern. by the time you find one you can get to, it'll be about a 4 hour wait so make sure you keep that in mind. the holiday weekend will likely extend these wait times but even a 6 hour wait is better than a 35 hour wait when your cat hasn't eaten in 3 days. that's a very dangerous window of time. wishing your baby and you well \ud83d\udda4","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1190.0,"score_ratio":2.1818181818}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieqccvg","c_root_id_B":"ieq66v3","created_at_utc_A":1656875954,"created_at_utc_B":1656873241,"score_A":24,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Go to the ER. You\u2019ll feel better waiting there in the waiting room than waiting at home. And in the event of a medical emergency, if her condition suddenly worsens or she has a seizure or anything, they can intervene right away.","human_ref_B":"Even if you might not get in the chance that you might is reason enough to try.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2713.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iepiltq","c_root_id_B":"ieqhofc","created_at_utc_A":1656863255,"created_at_utc_B":1656878335,"score_A":10,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"At this point, you probably have pancratitis setting in if it wasn't already a thing. ER! NOW! GOOOOOOOO","human_ref_B":"I would suggest going to the ER.  If the vet suggest bloodwork,it would help them to know how to treat her. A question I would ask the vet is about anti nausea meds. If she is nauseated, she won\u2019t eat no matter what you offer her.  13 really isn\u2019t an old cat as long as her health is stable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15080.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieq9nt2","c_root_id_B":"ieqhofc","created_at_utc_A":1656874764,"created_at_utc_B":1656878335,"score_A":11,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"go to an ER. find one with care credit or scratchpay options if finances are a concern. by the time you find one you can get to, it'll be about a 4 hour wait so make sure you keep that in mind. the holiday weekend will likely extend these wait times but even a 6 hour wait is better than a 35 hour wait when your cat hasn't eaten in 3 days. that's a very dangerous window of time. wishing your baby and you well \ud83d\udda4","human_ref_B":"I would suggest going to the ER.  If the vet suggest bloodwork,it would help them to know how to treat her. A question I would ask the vet is about anti nausea meds. If she is nauseated, she won\u2019t eat no matter what you offer her.  13 really isn\u2019t an old cat as long as her health is stable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3571.0,"score_ratio":1.0909090909}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieq66v3","c_root_id_B":"ieqhofc","created_at_utc_A":1656873241,"created_at_utc_B":1656878335,"score_A":4,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Even if you might not get in the chance that you might is reason enough to try.","human_ref_B":"I would suggest going to the ER.  If the vet suggest bloodwork,it would help them to know how to treat her. A question I would ask the vet is about anti nausea meds. If she is nauseated, she won\u2019t eat no matter what you offer her.  13 really isn\u2019t an old cat as long as her health is stable","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5094.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieq9nt2","c_root_id_B":"iepiltq","created_at_utc_A":1656874764,"created_at_utc_B":1656863255,"score_A":11,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"go to an ER. find one with care credit or scratchpay options if finances are a concern. by the time you find one you can get to, it'll be about a 4 hour wait so make sure you keep that in mind. the holiday weekend will likely extend these wait times but even a 6 hour wait is better than a 35 hour wait when your cat hasn't eaten in 3 days. that's a very dangerous window of time. wishing your baby and you well \ud83d\udda4","human_ref_B":"At this point, you probably have pancratitis setting in if it wasn't already a thing. ER! NOW! GOOOOOOOO","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11509.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ieq9nt2","c_root_id_B":"ieq66v3","created_at_utc_A":1656874764,"created_at_utc_B":1656873241,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"go to an ER. find one with care credit or scratchpay options if finances are a concern. by the time you find one you can get to, it'll be about a 4 hour wait so make sure you keep that in mind. the holiday weekend will likely extend these wait times but even a 6 hour wait is better than a 35 hour wait when your cat hasn't eaten in 3 days. that's a very dangerous window of time. wishing your baby and you well \ud83d\udda4","human_ref_B":"Even if you might not get in the chance that you might is reason enough to try.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1523.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iergodx","c_root_id_B":"ieq66v3","created_at_utc_A":1656894921,"created_at_utc_B":1656873241,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Take her to the emergency vet. Yes, it\u2019s expensive. But if anything happens to your cat before your vet opens you will spend *years* wishing you\u2019d spent that money.   I started thinking of my pets as my luxury spending when I was a broke grad student. They are my splurge that brings me joy. Reframing like that helped me stop giving a shit about not being able to buy new shoes because I dropped $600 at the emergency vet.","human_ref_B":"Even if you might not get in the chance that you might is reason enough to try.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21680.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iergodx","c_root_id_B":"iereu2d","created_at_utc_A":1656894921,"created_at_utc_B":1656893946,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Take her to the emergency vet. Yes, it\u2019s expensive. But if anything happens to your cat before your vet opens you will spend *years* wishing you\u2019d spent that money.   I started thinking of my pets as my luxury spending when I was a broke grad student. They are my splurge that brings me joy. Reframing like that helped me stop giving a shit about not being able to buy new shoes because I dropped $600 at the emergency vet.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but with cats in particular it\u2019s very dangerous and a medical emergency when they don\u2019t eat for an extended period of time. I\u2019m talking more than a day. Go to the ER. Sorry I know that\u2019s not what you hoped to hear and hope your kitty feels better soon.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":975.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ierb74u","c_root_id_B":"iergodx","created_at_utc_A":1656892046,"created_at_utc_B":1656894921,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes take her","human_ref_B":"Take her to the emergency vet. Yes, it\u2019s expensive. But if anything happens to your cat before your vet opens you will spend *years* wishing you\u2019d spent that money.   I started thinking of my pets as my luxury spending when I was a broke grad student. They are my splurge that brings me joy. Reframing like that helped me stop giving a shit about not being able to buy new shoes because I dropped $600 at the emergency vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2875.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"iereu2d","c_root_id_B":"ierb74u","created_at_utc_A":1656893946,"created_at_utc_B":1656892046,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but with cats in particular it\u2019s very dangerous and a medical emergency when they don\u2019t eat for an extended period of time. I\u2019m talking more than a day. Go to the ER. Sorry I know that\u2019s not what you hoped to hear and hope your kitty feels better soon.","human_ref_B":"Yes take her","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1900.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"vqfris","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"PLEASE HELP: cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours My cat hasn\u2019t eaten for 72 hours, and our vet doesn\u2019t open for about another 35 hours. Should I take her to the animal hospital? The wait to get in is extremely long.   Since she stopped eating, she\u2019s been to the vet twice to receive sub-cutaneous fluids. The most recent vet visit was 12 hours ago. The vet urged us to try to get her to eat, but she still refuses. We received no further guidance besides a follow-up when they\u2019re open. All the online advice I\u2019ve read says she should be taken into the vet ASAP to force feed her or hook her up to IV because organ failure can happen extremely quickly.  Medical condition: this started as an episode of what the vet suspects is IBD or intestinal cancer (no way of ruling out cancer unless she undergoes surgery. she\u2019s old, so we don\u2019t want that). She was vomiting and using her litter box frequently and seems extremely nauseous. Still grooming & purring, but not herself & getting more lethargic (even though she\u2019s very restless. she can\u2019t settle she keeps getting up and walking around). These IBD\/cancer episodes have been occurring every 7 months or so for the past 2 years. This time is different because the doctor put her on a long-acting steroid as a test (can\u2019t remember what it\u2019s called), she can\u2019t seem to shake off her nausea, and she\u2019s never gone this long without food.   Again, should i take her to the emergency hospital despite possibly not getting in since the wait is so long? Or should i wait until her regular vet opens?","c_root_id_A":"ierb74u","c_root_id_B":"iergxlf","created_at_utc_A":1656892046,"created_at_utc_B":1656895056,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes take her","human_ref_B":"You should be at the Vet ER as of right now","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3010.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"mdeiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Having a panic attack. Seeing a vet tomorrow, but in the meantime, does this look like ringworm on my cat? photos  Species: Feline  Age: 1 year  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Tabby  Body weight: 8 lbs.  History: Had a bite on her cheek, but not the most apparent red one in the images  Clinical signs: Scratching, cleaning (not the infected area, just in general)  Duration: 24 hours  Your general location: USA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: N\/A  For context, I have severe health anxiety. I noticed this red scab\/bite on my cat this morning, so I am seeing a vet tomorrow in the afternoon. In the meantime, I am wigging myself out and having a panic attack because I was trying to figure out what might have happened to my cat. Along the way, I saw a photo of feline ringworms, and now I can't get it out of my head that my cat has ringworm and that I am going to catch it. If anybody can please try to at least calm me down or tell me if I'm overthinking this, I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much.","c_root_id_A":"gs94kpd","c_root_id_B":"gs90rk5","created_at_utc_A":1616729312,"created_at_utc_B":1616727139,"score_A":105,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"First of all, best thing to do is wait for your vet to look at it and make a determination. I'm doubtful it's ringworm but a hands-on examination and additional diagnostics will be the best guide.      Second of all, ringworm is not a big deal. I know it sucks, but it's really a minimal annoyance at best, and just because your animal has it doesn't mean you'll get it. I got ringworm from my kitten when I first rescued him, and it went away with topical treatment. My partner at the time never got it.","human_ref_B":"Ringworm can present as many, many different looking things. It's impossible to tell without diagnostics.   Here's some reputable info on ringworm:   https:\/\/veterinarypartner.vin.com\/default.aspx?pid=19239&id=4951439","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2173.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"mdeiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Having a panic attack. Seeing a vet tomorrow, but in the meantime, does this look like ringworm on my cat? photos  Species: Feline  Age: 1 year  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Tabby  Body weight: 8 lbs.  History: Had a bite on her cheek, but not the most apparent red one in the images  Clinical signs: Scratching, cleaning (not the infected area, just in general)  Duration: 24 hours  Your general location: USA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: N\/A  For context, I have severe health anxiety. I noticed this red scab\/bite on my cat this morning, so I am seeing a vet tomorrow in the afternoon. In the meantime, I am wigging myself out and having a panic attack because I was trying to figure out what might have happened to my cat. Along the way, I saw a photo of feline ringworms, and now I can't get it out of my head that my cat has ringworm and that I am going to catch it. If anybody can please try to at least calm me down or tell me if I'm overthinking this, I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much.","c_root_id_A":"gs90rk5","c_root_id_B":"gs9ajbh","created_at_utc_A":1616727139,"created_at_utc_B":1616733074,"score_A":15,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Ringworm can present as many, many different looking things. It's impossible to tell without diagnostics.   Here's some reputable info on ringworm:   https:\/\/veterinarypartner.vin.com\/default.aspx?pid=19239&id=4951439","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet but I work in the veterinary field and also deal with health anxiety.  I contracted ringworm while traveling and while it was not ideal it was also completely treatable and I recovered just fine.  The doctor said I had quite a bad case and it looked nothing like the severe (gross!) photos you have likely been googling online.  My heart really goes out to people with health anxiety because I know how difficult it can be.  I have literally house sat cats that have ringworm and I didn't get it and I have seen only one or two clients over the last 15 years who got ringworm from their cat (and the cats had severe, untreated infections).  My husband also did not get ringworm from me when I had it, and while he didn't intentionally touch the sites, we literally took zero precautions.  Just get her checked out tomorrow and you will be fine  :)  Edit - I hope you're managing ok with the COVID situation <3","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5935.0,"score_ratio":2.9333333333}
{"post_id":"mdeiu7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Having a panic attack. Seeing a vet tomorrow, but in the meantime, does this look like ringworm on my cat? photos  Species: Feline  Age: 1 year  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Tabby  Body weight: 8 lbs.  History: Had a bite on her cheek, but not the most apparent red one in the images  Clinical signs: Scratching, cleaning (not the infected area, just in general)  Duration: 24 hours  Your general location: USA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: N\/A  For context, I have severe health anxiety. I noticed this red scab\/bite on my cat this morning, so I am seeing a vet tomorrow in the afternoon. In the meantime, I am wigging myself out and having a panic attack because I was trying to figure out what might have happened to my cat. Along the way, I saw a photo of feline ringworms, and now I can't get it out of my head that my cat has ringworm and that I am going to catch it. If anybody can please try to at least calm me down or tell me if I'm overthinking this, I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much.","c_root_id_A":"gs9i0qn","c_root_id_B":"gs9gtwl","created_at_utc_A":1616738922,"created_at_utc_B":1616737898,"score_A":11,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I am a vet, just discovered this sub. Your vet may want to test for ringworm BUT skin issues with varying diagnoses present very similarly. Great job getting a vet appointment right away, and try to provide a detailed history (outdoor cat, known trauma, previous allergies, on flea\/tick preventative or not, etc) to your vet so they can do the best job finding a diagnosis! Wish you and kitten luck and I hope you feel a little better about it all after seeing some of the above comments :)","human_ref_B":"I can't say if it's ringworm or not, but I just want to say as someone who also experiences health anxiety, ringworm is manageable and it's not guaranteed for you to catch it! I recently went through treating a newly adopted kitten with unexpected ringworm and neither my older cat, partner, or I caught it! Hopefully you get some good news from the vet though!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1024.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"maa7zc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Parvo I have a question for anyone working in the veterinary field..I work at an animal shelter, I've dealt with parvo many times. My dog is actually a parvo survivor. Recently, we got a litter of 8 week old malnourished pups in. We kept them for about a week to try get some weight on them. The day after we adopted them out, one of the pups got sick. The adopters brought him to the vet and he tested pos for parvo. So we called every adopter, explained to them what happened and the gravity of the situation. We offered to pay all vet bills, take the puppies back, etc. All of the pups but one were taken to the vet. The guy that got this puppy said that he was doing fine. He was eating, drinking, and playing. We told him that we suggest he takes him to the vet right away, he was convinced his puppy was fine. We told him that if the puppy stops eating or drinking, seems lethargic, vomits, or has diarrhea to bring him to the emergency vet right away. This was on Wednesday. On Saturday night the guy tries to post a picture of the dead puppy on our fb and says that we sold him a sick puppy and told him it would be fine. I called the manager and said someone needs to call him and get that pup's body, we bring them to the vet for cremation. She got a hold of the guy and he said that the puppy was just fine. He was eating and drinking, wagging his tail, and playing. Then he laid down and just quit breathing. Now from my own experience I called bullshit. I have NEVER seen a case where a 9 week old puppy showed no signs or symptoms and just died. He said he would bring the puppy in the morning, even though I offered to go pick it up that night. He brought the pup wrapped in a blanket inside a big tote. I wanted to check the pup over before I put him in the freezer..first thing I noticed, the horrible smell. It smelled like this pup had been dead for at least 24 hours, but I didn't know if parvovirus or his size would have an effect on that. Second thing was rigor had already passed. He was limp. This guy claimed the pup died 12 hours earlier. In my experience, none of this adds up to the story he is telling us..but I am not a vet. My question is this..Is this man's story plausible? Could the pup have been eating, drinking, and playing one minute and be dead the next with zero signs or symptoms? Would the size of the pup and parvo affect the decompostion rate and how fast rigor mortis subsides?","c_root_id_A":"grrwyio","c_root_id_B":"grrx3qy","created_at_utc_A":1616383956,"created_at_utc_B":1616384047,"score_A":8,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"The only way that you could know for sure would be to get a necropsy.","human_ref_B":"Your shelter may also want to contact Austin Pets Alive. They are a shelter\/rescue in Austin Texas that has both parvovirus and distemper treatment wards and they perform research in the treatment of both. They have treated over 6000 parvo pups there. They have quite a bit of information available for shelters\/rescues so they may be a good resource for your shelter.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":91.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"maa7zc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Parvo I have a question for anyone working in the veterinary field..I work at an animal shelter, I've dealt with parvo many times. My dog is actually a parvo survivor. Recently, we got a litter of 8 week old malnourished pups in. We kept them for about a week to try get some weight on them. The day after we adopted them out, one of the pups got sick. The adopters brought him to the vet and he tested pos for parvo. So we called every adopter, explained to them what happened and the gravity of the situation. We offered to pay all vet bills, take the puppies back, etc. All of the pups but one were taken to the vet. The guy that got this puppy said that he was doing fine. He was eating, drinking, and playing. We told him that we suggest he takes him to the vet right away, he was convinced his puppy was fine. We told him that if the puppy stops eating or drinking, seems lethargic, vomits, or has diarrhea to bring him to the emergency vet right away. This was on Wednesday. On Saturday night the guy tries to post a picture of the dead puppy on our fb and says that we sold him a sick puppy and told him it would be fine. I called the manager and said someone needs to call him and get that pup's body, we bring them to the vet for cremation. She got a hold of the guy and he said that the puppy was just fine. He was eating and drinking, wagging his tail, and playing. Then he laid down and just quit breathing. Now from my own experience I called bullshit. I have NEVER seen a case where a 9 week old puppy showed no signs or symptoms and just died. He said he would bring the puppy in the morning, even though I offered to go pick it up that night. He brought the pup wrapped in a blanket inside a big tote. I wanted to check the pup over before I put him in the freezer..first thing I noticed, the horrible smell. It smelled like this pup had been dead for at least 24 hours, but I didn't know if parvovirus or his size would have an effect on that. Second thing was rigor had already passed. He was limp. This guy claimed the pup died 12 hours earlier. In my experience, none of this adds up to the story he is telling us..but I am not a vet. My question is this..Is this man's story plausible? Could the pup have been eating, drinking, and playing one minute and be dead the next with zero signs or symptoms? Would the size of the pup and parvo affect the decompostion rate and how fast rigor mortis subsides?","c_root_id_A":"grrx3qy","c_root_id_B":"grrwx7e","created_at_utc_A":1616384047,"created_at_utc_B":1616383933,"score_A":15,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Your shelter may also want to contact Austin Pets Alive. They are a shelter\/rescue in Austin Texas that has both parvovirus and distemper treatment wards and they perform research in the treatment of both. They have treated over 6000 parvo pups there. They have quite a bit of information available for shelters\/rescues so they may be a good resource for your shelter.","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you were talking to two different people. Is it possible that someone else took the adopted dog and the original adopter did not know what was happening until it was too late?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":114.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"maa7zc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Parvo I have a question for anyone working in the veterinary field..I work at an animal shelter, I've dealt with parvo many times. My dog is actually a parvo survivor. Recently, we got a litter of 8 week old malnourished pups in. We kept them for about a week to try get some weight on them. The day after we adopted them out, one of the pups got sick. The adopters brought him to the vet and he tested pos for parvo. So we called every adopter, explained to them what happened and the gravity of the situation. We offered to pay all vet bills, take the puppies back, etc. All of the pups but one were taken to the vet. The guy that got this puppy said that he was doing fine. He was eating, drinking, and playing. We told him that we suggest he takes him to the vet right away, he was convinced his puppy was fine. We told him that if the puppy stops eating or drinking, seems lethargic, vomits, or has diarrhea to bring him to the emergency vet right away. This was on Wednesday. On Saturday night the guy tries to post a picture of the dead puppy on our fb and says that we sold him a sick puppy and told him it would be fine. I called the manager and said someone needs to call him and get that pup's body, we bring them to the vet for cremation. She got a hold of the guy and he said that the puppy was just fine. He was eating and drinking, wagging his tail, and playing. Then he laid down and just quit breathing. Now from my own experience I called bullshit. I have NEVER seen a case where a 9 week old puppy showed no signs or symptoms and just died. He said he would bring the puppy in the morning, even though I offered to go pick it up that night. He brought the pup wrapped in a blanket inside a big tote. I wanted to check the pup over before I put him in the freezer..first thing I noticed, the horrible smell. It smelled like this pup had been dead for at least 24 hours, but I didn't know if parvovirus or his size would have an effect on that. Second thing was rigor had already passed. He was limp. This guy claimed the pup died 12 hours earlier. In my experience, none of this adds up to the story he is telling us..but I am not a vet. My question is this..Is this man's story plausible? Could the pup have been eating, drinking, and playing one minute and be dead the next with zero signs or symptoms? Would the size of the pup and parvo affect the decompostion rate and how fast rigor mortis subsides?","c_root_id_A":"grrwyio","c_root_id_B":"grrwx7e","created_at_utc_A":1616383956,"created_at_utc_B":1616383933,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"The only way that you could know for sure would be to get a necropsy.","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you were talking to two different people. Is it possible that someone else took the adopted dog and the original adopter did not know what was happening until it was too late?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"lxrph3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Water from canned tuna safe for cats? Just a general question: is the water from canned tuna safe to give to cats? I'm talking about tuna canned in water (not oil).  My boyfriend has been giving my cat the water from his canned tuna once in a while (maybe once a month or so?)  as a treat, and the cat obviously really enjoys it and seems fine after eating it. However, though the can says \"tuna in water,\" I noticed just now that in the ingredient list, it says that it contains vegetable broth and salt. Might this be an issue?   In case it matters: Cat is 9yrs old, approx 10 pounds, no health issues.","c_root_id_A":"gpqv4yg","c_root_id_B":"gpq7lim","created_at_utc_A":1614924638,"created_at_utc_B":1614910528,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It's OK in small amounts. Ideally, the low sodium option is best if you want to share with a pet","human_ref_B":"Unsalted","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14110.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6t26y5","c_root_id_B":"g6semul","created_at_utc_A":1601191763,"created_at_utc_B":1601183084,"score_A":62,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Any gi upset (Vomiting\/diarrhea)?  It\u2019s not much he got into and it\u2019s been 11 hours.  The rapid breathing is not normal but I\u2019m not convinced it\u2019s from the chocolate given his size.  Safest thing would be to get him checked out re: the breathing.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d follow your vets recommendation especially with the breathing difficulties.  You don\u2019t want the regret of not having done so in the morning when your dog is dead.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8679.0,"score_ratio":3.875}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6t26y5","c_root_id_B":"g6sdrrw","created_at_utc_A":1601191763,"created_at_utc_B":1601182782,"score_A":62,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Any gi upset (Vomiting\/diarrhea)?  It\u2019s not much he got into and it\u2019s been 11 hours.  The rapid breathing is not normal but I\u2019m not convinced it\u2019s from the chocolate given his size.  Safest thing would be to get him checked out re: the breathing.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8981.0,"score_ratio":31.0}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6u792y","c_root_id_B":"g6uhocv","created_at_utc_A":1601208767,"created_at_utc_B":1601213354,"score_A":37,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"For future reference, you can always call the Pet Poison Control Hotline. They do have a small fee but they will be able to give you guidance.","human_ref_B":"Quantity and type matter.   Milk chocolate is the least dangerous.  Unsweetened baker\u2019s chocolate is the most.  The higher the percentage cacao in the chocolate, the less a dog needs to eat to become dangerously ill.  I\u2019d be amazed if a single cookie had enough cacao in it to pose a threat to a large dog like a lab.  Maybe if it was a very big and chocolaty cookie and the chocolate was extra dark.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4587.0,"score_ratio":1.2432432432}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6uhocv","c_root_id_B":"g6semul","created_at_utc_A":1601213354,"created_at_utc_B":1601183084,"score_A":46,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Quantity and type matter.   Milk chocolate is the least dangerous.  Unsweetened baker\u2019s chocolate is the most.  The higher the percentage cacao in the chocolate, the less a dog needs to eat to become dangerously ill.  I\u2019d be amazed if a single cookie had enough cacao in it to pose a threat to a large dog like a lab.  Maybe if it was a very big and chocolaty cookie and the chocolate was extra dark.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d follow your vets recommendation especially with the breathing difficulties.  You don\u2019t want the regret of not having done so in the morning when your dog is dead.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30270.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6sdrrw","c_root_id_B":"g6uhocv","created_at_utc_A":1601182782,"created_at_utc_B":1601213354,"score_A":2,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Quantity and type matter.   Milk chocolate is the least dangerous.  Unsweetened baker\u2019s chocolate is the most.  The higher the percentage cacao in the chocolate, the less a dog needs to eat to become dangerously ill.  I\u2019d be amazed if a single cookie had enough cacao in it to pose a threat to a large dog like a lab.  Maybe if it was a very big and chocolaty cookie and the chocolate was extra dark.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":30572.0,"score_ratio":23.0}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6u792y","c_root_id_B":"g6semul","created_at_utc_A":1601208767,"created_at_utc_B":1601183084,"score_A":37,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"For future reference, you can always call the Pet Poison Control Hotline. They do have a small fee but they will be able to give you guidance.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d follow your vets recommendation especially with the breathing difficulties.  You don\u2019t want the regret of not having done so in the morning when your dog is dead.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25683.0,"score_ratio":2.3125}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6sdrrw","c_root_id_B":"g6u792y","created_at_utc_A":1601182782,"created_at_utc_B":1601208767,"score_A":2,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"For future reference, you can always call the Pet Poison Control Hotline. They do have a small fee but they will be able to give you guidance.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25985.0,"score_ratio":18.5}
{"post_id":"j0l63i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our 14 year old labradoodle ate half a chocolate chip cookie an it was kind of my fault... It\u2019s been almost 11 hours since he ate it. The vet told us to go to emergency care, but when we called emergency they said he should be fine, just watch him. I had set the bag of cookies from the bakery on the floor for a second and he stuck his head in the bag immediately. He probably ate 2 square inches of cookie, semisweet chocolate chip. He\u2019s very thin, 40-45lbs, was 60 at his peak. Possibly relevant\u2014when he was 1, he ate half a baking sheet of toll house cookies with semisweet chips and nothing happened.   He\u2019s been kind of restless and panting, breathing fast for several hours, but good appetite and no vomit\/diarrhea. He\u2019s sleeping now, but I\u2019m scared to leave him overnight. He sleeps in my mom\u2019s room. Should I keep checking on him through the night? I could never forgive myself if something happened.","c_root_id_A":"g6semul","c_root_id_B":"g6sdrrw","created_at_utc_A":1601183084,"created_at_utc_B":1601182782,"score_A":16,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d follow your vets recommendation especially with the breathing difficulties.  You don\u2019t want the regret of not having done so in the morning when your dog is dead.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":302.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"fy46z1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Its day 4 and puppy refuses to eat and has been vomitting multiple times Preface: we live in a very small Muslim Asian country where dogs aren't common and the vet here are Muslims who mostly see and treat cats a majority of their time, they're also not used to handling dogs in general from the experience we've had (I've nothing against the religion, this is just background info). The town I live in is tiny and the vet here is ill equipped; the next city over is a 2 hours car drive where they would have the equipment (i.e. an ultrasound) to try and find the cause of the problem.  Puppy is 5 months old, vaccinated, normally 13.5kg (30lbs) and we rescued him when he was approx 6 weeks old abandoned in a drainage (he's classed as a Southeast Asian village dog by EmbarkVet).  Summary of symptoms:  * Vomits multiple times * Lethargy * Refuses to eat * Weight loss * Very runny stool (occurred only once) * No fever  **Day 1**  I woke my pup up at 7am in his crate to see he's still somewhat asleep. This is weird as normally he'd wake me up and he would usually walk out of the crate within 5 seconds of me opening. We have our morning walk but I cut it short as I see he's not too energetic. I serve him breakfast kibbles and he refused his food. He refused lunch as well. He also refused his treats and would spit it out. I tried chicken breast and he ate it, so I served him a small amount of rice and chicken breast because it concerned me he wasn't taking anything. That was the only meal he had. He was very low energy the whole day and spent his time on the couch chilling. He also did not poop at all this day.  **Day 2**  I woke him up at 7am again to see he has vomited in his crate. He seemed energetic so we had a short walk and he finally pooped (solid stool) and on the way back, he vomited white\/yellow foam bile. He vomited again two more times at home. We waited for the nearby vet to open at 9am to bring him. Vet prescribed metoclopramide (for the vomiting?), liver support pills and b-plex. They also gave us Royal Canin Convalesce Support (RCCS) to force feed him. Back home, he ends up vomiting out all the pills we gave and all the food we force fed. He also vomited every time he drank water. Puppy has no energy and we see visible weight loss  **Day 3**  I woke him up at 7am again and he's vomited 2 times in his play pen. We brought him back to the vet and told them about day 2. We asked for an IV drip (administered under the skin) as he was now skin and bones and dehydrated. He's also lost 1.5kg (3lbs). During this time, he had a runny stool outside the vet's office which the vet saw. No blood, just very runny. They prescribed metronidazole (antibiotics) which they helped him take. We also managed to get him to take the metoclopramide and both pills stayed down. We force fed him a small amount of the RCCS 2 hours after the vet visit and he puked it all out 5 minutes after. My SO & I decided to not feed him at all to allow his stomach to recover (after doing some googling) as we notice the vomiting happens after he drinks water or we feed him the RCCS. In the evening, we got him to take the pills but he puked out the antibiotics minutes after he drank a bit of water.  **Day 4**  This is where I'm at now, we just woke him up at 630am and it is now 8am my time. Luckily he hasn't vomited in his pen which is a positive sign but he still refuses food and has no energy. He's looking even thinner than he was yesterday. Our options are either, go to another vet nearby for a second opinion or drive up 2 hours to the city and get him checked there and ask for an ultrasound to see what's going on in his stomach. Or we stick to the prescribed plan and ride it out. We have not given him his pills yet this morning as we fear he may puke it out again. We feel quite defeated that everytime we force feed his pill or food, he is hating us for handling him in such a way and he ends up vomiting soon after.  Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"fmycwbs","c_root_id_B":"fmysb8r","created_at_utc_A":1586483239,"created_at_utc_B":1586494282,"score_A":36,"score_B":60,"human_ref_A":"Definitely go to the city for the ultrasound.","human_ref_B":"This has gone too far. Your puppy is dying, and is in need of serious medical attention. Read this message, get in your car, and go right this instant.   Clearly pills are not working, and you've even stopped attempting to give them. This means hospitalization with fluids & IV medication.   If the vets in your small town are not equipped to handle true medical emergencies (this is absolutely one), then you'll need to head to the city.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11043.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"fy46z1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Its day 4 and puppy refuses to eat and has been vomitting multiple times Preface: we live in a very small Muslim Asian country where dogs aren't common and the vet here are Muslims who mostly see and treat cats a majority of their time, they're also not used to handling dogs in general from the experience we've had (I've nothing against the religion, this is just background info). The town I live in is tiny and the vet here is ill equipped; the next city over is a 2 hours car drive where they would have the equipment (i.e. an ultrasound) to try and find the cause of the problem.  Puppy is 5 months old, vaccinated, normally 13.5kg (30lbs) and we rescued him when he was approx 6 weeks old abandoned in a drainage (he's classed as a Southeast Asian village dog by EmbarkVet).  Summary of symptoms:  * Vomits multiple times * Lethargy * Refuses to eat * Weight loss * Very runny stool (occurred only once) * No fever  **Day 1**  I woke my pup up at 7am in his crate to see he's still somewhat asleep. This is weird as normally he'd wake me up and he would usually walk out of the crate within 5 seconds of me opening. We have our morning walk but I cut it short as I see he's not too energetic. I serve him breakfast kibbles and he refused his food. He refused lunch as well. He also refused his treats and would spit it out. I tried chicken breast and he ate it, so I served him a small amount of rice and chicken breast because it concerned me he wasn't taking anything. That was the only meal he had. He was very low energy the whole day and spent his time on the couch chilling. He also did not poop at all this day.  **Day 2**  I woke him up at 7am again to see he has vomited in his crate. He seemed energetic so we had a short walk and he finally pooped (solid stool) and on the way back, he vomited white\/yellow foam bile. He vomited again two more times at home. We waited for the nearby vet to open at 9am to bring him. Vet prescribed metoclopramide (for the vomiting?), liver support pills and b-plex. They also gave us Royal Canin Convalesce Support (RCCS) to force feed him. Back home, he ends up vomiting out all the pills we gave and all the food we force fed. He also vomited every time he drank water. Puppy has no energy and we see visible weight loss  **Day 3**  I woke him up at 7am again and he's vomited 2 times in his play pen. We brought him back to the vet and told them about day 2. We asked for an IV drip (administered under the skin) as he was now skin and bones and dehydrated. He's also lost 1.5kg (3lbs). During this time, he had a runny stool outside the vet's office which the vet saw. No blood, just very runny. They prescribed metronidazole (antibiotics) which they helped him take. We also managed to get him to take the metoclopramide and both pills stayed down. We force fed him a small amount of the RCCS 2 hours after the vet visit and he puked it all out 5 minutes after. My SO & I decided to not feed him at all to allow his stomach to recover (after doing some googling) as we notice the vomiting happens after he drinks water or we feed him the RCCS. In the evening, we got him to take the pills but he puked out the antibiotics minutes after he drank a bit of water.  **Day 4**  This is where I'm at now, we just woke him up at 630am and it is now 8am my time. Luckily he hasn't vomited in his pen which is a positive sign but he still refuses food and has no energy. He's looking even thinner than he was yesterday. Our options are either, go to another vet nearby for a second opinion or drive up 2 hours to the city and get him checked there and ask for an ultrasound to see what's going on in his stomach. Or we stick to the prescribed plan and ride it out. We have not given him his pills yet this morning as we fear he may puke it out again. We feel quite defeated that everytime we force feed his pill or food, he is hating us for handling him in such a way and he ends up vomiting soon after.  Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"fmysb8r","c_root_id_B":"fmydeu3","created_at_utc_A":1586494282,"created_at_utc_B":1586483573,"score_A":60,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"This has gone too far. Your puppy is dying, and is in need of serious medical attention. Read this message, get in your car, and go right this instant.   Clearly pills are not working, and you've even stopped attempting to give them. This means hospitalization with fluids & IV medication.   If the vets in your small town are not equipped to handle true medical emergencies (this is absolutely one), then you'll need to head to the city.","human_ref_B":"Has he been fully vaccinated? Has a parvo test been done?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10709.0,"score_ratio":2.6086956522}
{"post_id":"fy46z1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Its day 4 and puppy refuses to eat and has been vomitting multiple times Preface: we live in a very small Muslim Asian country where dogs aren't common and the vet here are Muslims who mostly see and treat cats a majority of their time, they're also not used to handling dogs in general from the experience we've had (I've nothing against the religion, this is just background info). The town I live in is tiny and the vet here is ill equipped; the next city over is a 2 hours car drive where they would have the equipment (i.e. an ultrasound) to try and find the cause of the problem.  Puppy is 5 months old, vaccinated, normally 13.5kg (30lbs) and we rescued him when he was approx 6 weeks old abandoned in a drainage (he's classed as a Southeast Asian village dog by EmbarkVet).  Summary of symptoms:  * Vomits multiple times * Lethargy * Refuses to eat * Weight loss * Very runny stool (occurred only once) * No fever  **Day 1**  I woke my pup up at 7am in his crate to see he's still somewhat asleep. This is weird as normally he'd wake me up and he would usually walk out of the crate within 5 seconds of me opening. We have our morning walk but I cut it short as I see he's not too energetic. I serve him breakfast kibbles and he refused his food. He refused lunch as well. He also refused his treats and would spit it out. I tried chicken breast and he ate it, so I served him a small amount of rice and chicken breast because it concerned me he wasn't taking anything. That was the only meal he had. He was very low energy the whole day and spent his time on the couch chilling. He also did not poop at all this day.  **Day 2**  I woke him up at 7am again to see he has vomited in his crate. He seemed energetic so we had a short walk and he finally pooped (solid stool) and on the way back, he vomited white\/yellow foam bile. He vomited again two more times at home. We waited for the nearby vet to open at 9am to bring him. Vet prescribed metoclopramide (for the vomiting?), liver support pills and b-plex. They also gave us Royal Canin Convalesce Support (RCCS) to force feed him. Back home, he ends up vomiting out all the pills we gave and all the food we force fed. He also vomited every time he drank water. Puppy has no energy and we see visible weight loss  **Day 3**  I woke him up at 7am again and he's vomited 2 times in his play pen. We brought him back to the vet and told them about day 2. We asked for an IV drip (administered under the skin) as he was now skin and bones and dehydrated. He's also lost 1.5kg (3lbs). During this time, he had a runny stool outside the vet's office which the vet saw. No blood, just very runny. They prescribed metronidazole (antibiotics) which they helped him take. We also managed to get him to take the metoclopramide and both pills stayed down. We force fed him a small amount of the RCCS 2 hours after the vet visit and he puked it all out 5 minutes after. My SO & I decided to not feed him at all to allow his stomach to recover (after doing some googling) as we notice the vomiting happens after he drinks water or we feed him the RCCS. In the evening, we got him to take the pills but he puked out the antibiotics minutes after he drank a bit of water.  **Day 4**  This is where I'm at now, we just woke him up at 630am and it is now 8am my time. Luckily he hasn't vomited in his pen which is a positive sign but he still refuses food and has no energy. He's looking even thinner than he was yesterday. Our options are either, go to another vet nearby for a second opinion or drive up 2 hours to the city and get him checked there and ask for an ultrasound to see what's going on in his stomach. Or we stick to the prescribed plan and ride it out. We have not given him his pills yet this morning as we fear he may puke it out again. We feel quite defeated that everytime we force feed his pill or food, he is hating us for handling him in such a way and he ends up vomiting soon after.  Any advice?","c_root_id_A":"fmysb8r","c_root_id_B":"fmyrvha","created_at_utc_A":1586494282,"created_at_utc_B":1586493921,"score_A":60,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"This has gone too far. Your puppy is dying, and is in need of serious medical attention. Read this message, get in your car, and go right this instant.   Clearly pills are not working, and you've even stopped attempting to give them. This means hospitalization with fluids & IV medication.   If the vets in your small town are not equipped to handle true medical emergencies (this is absolutely one), then you'll need to head to the city.","human_ref_B":"My comment was automatically removed by a bot... but def go to a more advanced\/capable vet hospital. Sounds serious for such a young pup.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":361.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01w3z","c_root_id_B":"fkzywca","created_at_utc_A":1584688176,"created_at_utc_B":1584684968,"score_A":131,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"He needs to be in hospital NOW.  If you can\u2019t afford hospitalization, talk to them about what actual options exist.  They may be able to give you a medication that you can administer to him that may stop a seizure.  There are things you can do to help him. You just need to go to an emergency vet RIGHT AWAY. Good luck with him.","human_ref_B":"Not knowing the type of poison is very, very limiting, as some one treatment could worsen another condition, unfortunately. Outside of the seizures, is he aware? Does he respond to his name or other stimuli?  I wish there was more help to give, but your best bet is to be nearby at all times to monitor him. If he isn't drinking or eating and continues to suffer, you may have to look at making a difficult but necessary decision.  Best of luck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3208.0,"score_ratio":5.0384615385}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01prz","c_root_id_B":"fl01w3z","created_at_utc_A":1584687976,"created_at_utc_B":1584688176,"score_A":13,"score_B":131,"human_ref_A":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","human_ref_B":"He needs to be in hospital NOW.  If you can\u2019t afford hospitalization, talk to them about what actual options exist.  They may be able to give you a medication that you can administer to him that may stop a seizure.  There are things you can do to help him. You just need to go to an emergency vet RIGHT AWAY. Good luck with him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":200.0,"score_ratio":10.0769230769}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl04u28","c_root_id_B":"fl05dl0","created_at_utc_A":1584691597,"created_at_utc_B":1584692269,"score_A":80,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","human_ref_B":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":672.0,"score_ratio":1.3375}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl05dl0","c_root_id_B":"fl03crn","created_at_utc_A":1584692269,"created_at_utc_B":1584689824,"score_A":107,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","human_ref_B":"What exactly did your vet say, and where are you located? This is extremely serious and requires a vet - if the one you went to cannot do anything, there should at least be a place they can recommend to go to.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2445.0,"score_ratio":2.8157894737}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01w5z","c_root_id_B":"fl05dl0","created_at_utc_A":1584688178,"created_at_utc_B":1584692269,"score_A":35,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Get a second opinion.","human_ref_B":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4091.0,"score_ratio":3.0571428571}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fkzywca","c_root_id_B":"fl05dl0","created_at_utc_A":1584684968,"created_at_utc_B":1584692269,"score_A":26,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Not knowing the type of poison is very, very limiting, as some one treatment could worsen another condition, unfortunately. Outside of the seizures, is he aware? Does he respond to his name or other stimuli?  I wish there was more help to give, but your best bet is to be nearby at all times to monitor him. If he isn't drinking or eating and continues to suffer, you may have to look at making a difficult but necessary decision.  Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7301.0,"score_ratio":4.1153846154}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl03un9","c_root_id_B":"fl05dl0","created_at_utc_A":1584690407,"created_at_utc_B":1584692269,"score_A":18,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"Please go to another vet, make calls to vets and emergency vets in your area. If it was me, I wouldn\u2019t have accepted the vet saying nothing can be done and would have gone somewhere else immediately. You need an Emergency vet like yesterday.","human_ref_B":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1862.0,"score_ratio":5.9444444444}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01prz","c_root_id_B":"fl05dl0","created_at_utc_A":1584687976,"created_at_utc_B":1584692269,"score_A":13,"score_B":107,"human_ref_A":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","human_ref_B":"You need to bring your dog back to see a vet. Is there a 24 hour emergency clinic? Your dog is having what are called *cluster seizures*, which are life threatening. He needs to be admitted to the hospital for treatments including measures to stop the seizures.  I would not allow your dog to continue like this. You have to either treat very aggressively or put him to sleep for humane reasons.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4293.0,"score_ratio":8.2307692308}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl04u28","c_root_id_B":"fl03crn","created_at_utc_A":1584691597,"created_at_utc_B":1584689824,"score_A":80,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","human_ref_B":"What exactly did your vet say, and where are you located? This is extremely serious and requires a vet - if the one you went to cannot do anything, there should at least be a place they can recommend to go to.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1773.0,"score_ratio":2.1052631579}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01w5z","c_root_id_B":"fl04u28","created_at_utc_A":1584688178,"created_at_utc_B":1584691597,"score_A":35,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"Get a second opinion.","human_ref_B":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3419.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl04u28","c_root_id_B":"fkzywca","created_at_utc_A":1584691597,"created_at_utc_B":1584684968,"score_A":80,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","human_ref_B":"Not knowing the type of poison is very, very limiting, as some one treatment could worsen another condition, unfortunately. Outside of the seizures, is he aware? Does he respond to his name or other stimuli?  I wish there was more help to give, but your best bet is to be nearby at all times to monitor him. If he isn't drinking or eating and continues to suffer, you may have to look at making a difficult but necessary decision.  Best of luck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6629.0,"score_ratio":3.0769230769}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl03un9","c_root_id_B":"fl04u28","created_at_utc_A":1584690407,"created_at_utc_B":1584691597,"score_A":18,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"Please go to another vet, make calls to vets and emergency vets in your area. If it was me, I wouldn\u2019t have accepted the vet saying nothing can be done and would have gone somewhere else immediately. You need an Emergency vet like yesterday.","human_ref_B":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1190.0,"score_ratio":4.4444444444}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl04u28","c_root_id_B":"fl01prz","created_at_utc_A":1584691597,"created_at_utc_B":1584687976,"score_A":80,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Were you there at the vet appointment, or was it your family member(s)?  A vet wouldn't just say nothing could be done and send a young dog home to suffer, with no instructions or medications to ease symptoms. They would refer on if it wasnt something they had the facilities to treat.  Emergency vet ot poison helpline.  Can someone go back and retrace your steps and see if any trace of the suspect poison is still there?","human_ref_B":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3621.0,"score_ratio":6.1538461538}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl03crn","c_root_id_B":"fl01w5z","created_at_utc_A":1584689824,"created_at_utc_B":1584688178,"score_A":38,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"What exactly did your vet say, and where are you located? This is extremely serious and requires a vet - if the one you went to cannot do anything, there should at least be a place they can recommend to go to.","human_ref_B":"Get a second opinion.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1646.0,"score_ratio":1.0857142857}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl03crn","c_root_id_B":"fkzywca","created_at_utc_A":1584689824,"created_at_utc_B":1584684968,"score_A":38,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"What exactly did your vet say, and where are you located? This is extremely serious and requires a vet - if the one you went to cannot do anything, there should at least be a place they can recommend to go to.","human_ref_B":"Not knowing the type of poison is very, very limiting, as some one treatment could worsen another condition, unfortunately. Outside of the seizures, is he aware? Does he respond to his name or other stimuli?  I wish there was more help to give, but your best bet is to be nearby at all times to monitor him. If he isn't drinking or eating and continues to suffer, you may have to look at making a difficult but necessary decision.  Best of luck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4856.0,"score_ratio":1.4615384615}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01prz","c_root_id_B":"fl03crn","created_at_utc_A":1584687976,"created_at_utc_B":1584689824,"score_A":13,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","human_ref_B":"What exactly did your vet say, and where are you located? This is extremely serious and requires a vet - if the one you went to cannot do anything, there should at least be a place they can recommend to go to.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1848.0,"score_ratio":2.9230769231}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fkzywca","c_root_id_B":"fl01w5z","created_at_utc_A":1584684968,"created_at_utc_B":1584688178,"score_A":26,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Not knowing the type of poison is very, very limiting, as some one treatment could worsen another condition, unfortunately. Outside of the seizures, is he aware? Does he respond to his name or other stimuli?  I wish there was more help to give, but your best bet is to be nearby at all times to monitor him. If he isn't drinking or eating and continues to suffer, you may have to look at making a difficult but necessary decision.  Best of luck.","human_ref_B":"Get a second opinion.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3210.0,"score_ratio":1.3461538462}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01w5z","c_root_id_B":"fl01prz","created_at_utc_A":1584688178,"created_at_utc_B":1584687976,"score_A":35,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Get a second opinion.","human_ref_B":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":202.0,"score_ratio":2.6923076923}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl0e6at","c_root_id_B":"fl03un9","created_at_utc_A":1584703252,"created_at_utc_B":1584690407,"score_A":22,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Even if the vet cannot identify or treat the poison itself, they can still provide \"supportive care\"  (anti-spasmodics and IV fluids). Find a vet that will admit the dog to the hospital, and provide him with the care he needs. With proper supportive care, he may survive this and recover once his system has expelled the poisons. Without it, he probably won't.","human_ref_B":"Please go to another vet, make calls to vets and emergency vets in your area. If it was me, I wouldn\u2019t have accepted the vet saying nothing can be done and would have gone somewhere else immediately. You need an Emergency vet like yesterday.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12845.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl01prz","c_root_id_B":"fl0e6at","created_at_utc_A":1584687976,"created_at_utc_B":1584703252,"score_A":13,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","human_ref_B":"Even if the vet cannot identify or treat the poison itself, they can still provide \"supportive care\"  (anti-spasmodics and IV fluids). Find a vet that will admit the dog to the hospital, and provide him with the care he needs. With proper supportive care, he may survive this and recover once his system has expelled the poisons. Without it, he probably won't.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15276.0,"score_ratio":1.6923076923}
{"post_id":"flob2i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog was POISONED?! My dog drank some sort of poison the other day... Not sure if it was antifreeze or what. Anyway, he was taken to the vet, and they said they couldn't do anything to help. He was brought home, and he's had over 20 seizures and lays in his kennel in a puddle of drool. It's pretty much the worst thing I've ever experienced with a pet. It's horrible to watch knowing there isn't a thing I can do to help.  Has anyone experienced this with their dog? Any vets out there? Is there really nothing I can do? Is there any chance he will recover?  He is a 1 year old, Male, Great Pyrenees","c_root_id_A":"fl03un9","c_root_id_B":"fl01prz","created_at_utc_A":1584690407,"created_at_utc_B":1584687976,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Please go to another vet, make calls to vets and emergency vets in your area. If it was me, I wouldn\u2019t have accepted the vet saying nothing can be done and would have gone somewhere else immediately. You need an Emergency vet like yesterday.","human_ref_B":"I'm not sure if they're still functioning during the Coronavirus outbreak, but you could try calling the local Pet Poison Helpline as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2431.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"ezjnuw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How sensitive are Red Eared Sliders to sound? My red eared slider, Goob, is getting too big for his 55 gallon tank, so I'd like to buy him a 100+ gallon tank. The problem is, I keep him in my upstairs room right now. I did some research and it's not possible for me to keep a tank that size upstairs, leaving the basement as my only option. Buuuut that's where I keep my drums. I only play a couple times per week, for an hour at most. I don't want to damage his hearing or put him under a lot of stress, but he needs a bigger tank and I can only put it in the basement.","c_root_id_A":"fgoggol","c_root_id_B":"fgoa4ko","created_at_utc_A":1580969099,"created_at_utc_B":1580963634,"score_A":76,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"This is so wholesome. (please don't shut me down mods) I'm no vet, I just love the idea of someone caring about their turtles hearing while jamming out. Good on you OP.","human_ref_B":"I don't know the answer to that question, and I don't know anything about turtles so I'm just legitimately asking: since you don't play very often or for very long, can you just let him hang out upstairs in a room or maybe a tub until you're done?   I don't know if they can be taken out of their tanks like that or not.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5465.0,"score_ratio":1.9487179487}
{"post_id":"a749zu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Update on Parvo Puppy First Post   So she\u2019s almost recovered! All she needs to do is start eating real food and she can come home!!  They\u2019re trickle feeding her at the moment and she\u2019s still having slightly bloody diarrhea but she\u2019s up and moving and just being.. alive. She wags her tail, she gets excited when someone goes in!  Just wanted to update those who were following :)","c_root_id_A":"ec0bvp3","c_root_id_B":"ec0f5jx","created_at_utc_A":1545087639,"created_at_utc_B":1545090443,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Yay so happy for you and your pup","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s wonderful!! I used to work at a clinic and the parvo puppies first broke our hearts but if they made it out it was the best feeling ever. They took a lot out of everyone emotionally. Give your clinic staff a big hug, and your puppy, too! So happy for you :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2804.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"a749zu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Update on Parvo Puppy First Post   So she\u2019s almost recovered! All she needs to do is start eating real food and she can come home!!  They\u2019re trickle feeding her at the moment and she\u2019s still having slightly bloody diarrhea but she\u2019s up and moving and just being.. alive. She wags her tail, she gets excited when someone goes in!  Just wanted to update those who were following :)","c_root_id_A":"ec0jklj","c_root_id_B":"ec0bvp3","created_at_utc_A":1545094503,"created_at_utc_B":1545087639,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Wonderful news! Thanks for the update.","human_ref_B":"Yay so happy for you and your pup","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6864.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"z6z77u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog died after recovering in drowning accident, what went wrong? Had an accident over the weekend that resulted in my in-laws\u2019 dog\u2019s death and am looking for answers. Friday after Thanksgiving was a nice day around 70\u00b0F, so we went out on the lake on my in-laws' boat (water temperature approximately 60\u00b0F). Their dog Jack (18, male, neutered, cockapoo, 20 lbs) loved to be at the front and feel the wind. While cruising at a low speed Jack accidentally stepped\/slipped off the boat- he\u2019s going blind and deaf and this has happened before (something we are all beating ourselves up over not being more cautious about). It is a tritoon\/pontoon boat and he went straight between the tubes and did not\/could not hit the motor\/propeller. He has always been a very good swimmer and so we did not think anything of it. We turned the boat around to go get him, but saw him struggling to swim, so went over as fast as we could. I jumped in to get him but he had gone limp in the water by the time I got there- probably only 30-45 seconds after he went in (he has swam for upwards of 10 minutes at a time in the last 6 months). I got him back on the boat and we started doing dog CPR as best we could. There were 3 of us so 2 of us were attending to him and the 3rd was looking up what to do. He was not breathing. Per the internet we held him upside down and shook him gently to try and drain the water from his lungs and then started compressions and rescue breaths (we did not check for a pulse before doing so). I gave rescue breaths but don\u2019t remember watching for the chest to rise, and may have forced too much air in. He started breathing again after a few minutes out of the water, albeit labored, was semi-responsive, and his gums were returning to a normal color. We tried to dry him\/warm him up while we rushed him to the nearest emergency vet, and got there an hour after the accident.  They gave him oxygen for roughly an hour and said at one point he was up and walking around and seemingly fine, his gums were pink and he was breathing well. They planned on doing chest x-rays to check his ribcage and for fluid. We thought it was all going to be okay, but then a few minutes after telling us his temperature was rising and he seemed to be doing good and would be able to go home soon, they came out and said he had taken a turn for the worse, was coughing up blood, and asked my in-laws to consider putting him down, which they ultimately did.  We are all torn up about this, he was old and lived a good life, but this was such a horrible way to go. I just want to know what could have caused his rapid decline after seemingly being on the path to recovery? Did we do something wrong? Did I force too much air in and cause some sort of lung failure? Could we have saved him with different actions? I don't have access to theThank you in advance for your help!  Please get pet life vests and keep them on a leash\/secured in moving vehicles. The red cross offers an online pet first aid course here. Also consider taking a human first aid\/cpr course. Just a small amount of time and research can make a big difference in an emergency scenario.","c_root_id_A":"iy57dmv","c_root_id_B":"iy5lb1f","created_at_utc_A":1669669147,"created_at_utc_B":1669674766,"score_A":29,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"It's impossible to say without a necropsy.  The sequence of events and symptoms you have described, don't really fit with any sort of barotrauma caused by you over inflating his lungs (I would also be surprised if you could generate enough pressure to do so with rescue breaths).  With him truly coughing up blood suddenly after the event, some sort of trauma would be high on my list, a rib fracture becoming displaced lacerating a blood vessel for example.  But unfortunately without a necropsy it's simply guesswork.  I'm sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Hello, I am an ER vet and have seen similar cases. I absolutely cannot say this is what happened with your pet. Every case is unique and the only way to know is by performing a necropsy with a boarded pathologist.   In cases I\u2019ve had like this, what happens is that the brain is deprived of oxygen for a short amount of time, and that can sometimes lead to pressure changes in the lungs which can cause non cardiogenic pulmonary edema. This is when the lungs fill up with blood secondary to asphyxiation. Pets may die 24-72hrs after the asphyxiation event","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5619.0,"score_ratio":1.724137931}
{"post_id":"z6z77u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog died after recovering in drowning accident, what went wrong? Had an accident over the weekend that resulted in my in-laws\u2019 dog\u2019s death and am looking for answers. Friday after Thanksgiving was a nice day around 70\u00b0F, so we went out on the lake on my in-laws' boat (water temperature approximately 60\u00b0F). Their dog Jack (18, male, neutered, cockapoo, 20 lbs) loved to be at the front and feel the wind. While cruising at a low speed Jack accidentally stepped\/slipped off the boat- he\u2019s going blind and deaf and this has happened before (something we are all beating ourselves up over not being more cautious about). It is a tritoon\/pontoon boat and he went straight between the tubes and did not\/could not hit the motor\/propeller. He has always been a very good swimmer and so we did not think anything of it. We turned the boat around to go get him, but saw him struggling to swim, so went over as fast as we could. I jumped in to get him but he had gone limp in the water by the time I got there- probably only 30-45 seconds after he went in (he has swam for upwards of 10 minutes at a time in the last 6 months). I got him back on the boat and we started doing dog CPR as best we could. There were 3 of us so 2 of us were attending to him and the 3rd was looking up what to do. He was not breathing. Per the internet we held him upside down and shook him gently to try and drain the water from his lungs and then started compressions and rescue breaths (we did not check for a pulse before doing so). I gave rescue breaths but don\u2019t remember watching for the chest to rise, and may have forced too much air in. He started breathing again after a few minutes out of the water, albeit labored, was semi-responsive, and his gums were returning to a normal color. We tried to dry him\/warm him up while we rushed him to the nearest emergency vet, and got there an hour after the accident.  They gave him oxygen for roughly an hour and said at one point he was up and walking around and seemingly fine, his gums were pink and he was breathing well. They planned on doing chest x-rays to check his ribcage and for fluid. We thought it was all going to be okay, but then a few minutes after telling us his temperature was rising and he seemed to be doing good and would be able to go home soon, they came out and said he had taken a turn for the worse, was coughing up blood, and asked my in-laws to consider putting him down, which they ultimately did.  We are all torn up about this, he was old and lived a good life, but this was such a horrible way to go. I just want to know what could have caused his rapid decline after seemingly being on the path to recovery? Did we do something wrong? Did I force too much air in and cause some sort of lung failure? Could we have saved him with different actions? I don't have access to theThank you in advance for your help!  Please get pet life vests and keep them on a leash\/secured in moving vehicles. The red cross offers an online pet first aid course here. Also consider taking a human first aid\/cpr course. Just a small amount of time and research can make a big difference in an emergency scenario.","c_root_id_A":"iy57dmv","c_root_id_B":"iy5zyx9","created_at_utc_A":1669669147,"created_at_utc_B":1669681235,"score_A":29,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"It's impossible to say without a necropsy.  The sequence of events and symptoms you have described, don't really fit with any sort of barotrauma caused by you over inflating his lungs (I would also be surprised if you could generate enough pressure to do so with rescue breaths).  With him truly coughing up blood suddenly after the event, some sort of trauma would be high on my list, a rib fracture becoming displaced lacerating a blood vessel for example.  But unfortunately without a necropsy it's simply guesswork.  I'm sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Secondary drowning\/dry drowning is common in people who have drowned.  At his age, there could additionally have been all sorts of underlying issues which compounded by the stress of the events might have just shut his body down.  Regardless of how good a swimmer your dog is, a life jacket is 110% a necessity if you\u2019re taking them out on a boat. I\u2019m sorry you had to learn that the hard way.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12088.0,"score_ratio":1.5172413793}
{"post_id":"svrg2z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What can I give my cats instead of Royal Canin Urinary Care. My cats have been doing amazing on this food, no blockages...there is a production shortage and it's not cost effective to buy only small bags of their food. I'm researching endlessly and just not sure what dry cat food measures up to this formula. I'm in Canada. I card my vet and she pushed the prescription version of Royal Canin and wouldn't suggest alternatives.","c_root_id_A":"hxi9dxf","c_root_id_B":"hxienv7","created_at_utc_A":1645224080,"created_at_utc_B":1645226322,"score_A":9,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet. My dog had a urinary blockage by a ginormous calcium oxalate stone (ER quick. Almost lost her -- few hours later and I would have!) a few years back and after exhausting all avenues with Hills, Purina and Royal Canin (and not liking the health outcomes -- Hills tripled her triglycerides) I ended up getting an at home diet recipe tailored directly to her history and chart (they worked with her vet) with supplements from Balance It from: https:\/\/vth.vetmed.vt.edu\/inpatient-outpatient-services\/nutrition.html   I'm sure they offer it for cats, too. It's expensive, but worth it.  It's a veterinary college and I give them 5 stars for keeping my Olivia alive and healthy!  It's been 4 years and zero bladder stones of any kind.","human_ref_B":"Hills C\/D is practically the same prescription diet, just different brand. To my knowledge they\u2019re interchangeable. You would still need a prescription from the vet for C\/D though","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2242.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"svrg2z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What can I give my cats instead of Royal Canin Urinary Care. My cats have been doing amazing on this food, no blockages...there is a production shortage and it's not cost effective to buy only small bags of their food. I'm researching endlessly and just not sure what dry cat food measures up to this formula. I'm in Canada. I card my vet and she pushed the prescription version of Royal Canin and wouldn't suggest alternatives.","c_root_id_A":"hxjtg8z","c_root_id_B":"hxk46tp","created_at_utc_A":1645252799,"created_at_utc_B":1645261134,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I would completely move away from any type of kibble number one. Cats are obligate carnivores that require high meat diets. The more meat the more acidic the urine and the less chance of crystals or blockages. Also wet food hydrates far better than kibble and will keep the bladder flushed.","human_ref_B":"My young cat who has bladder issues and is prone to utis is on Hills C\/D and its amazing. Best food for him. He still has flare ups but it's not common. That's just his condition.  I've had other cats on the food and it stopped it completely.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8335.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"fhn0yo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!","c_root_id_A":"fkc72pp","c_root_id_B":"fkc9cig","created_at_utc_A":1584047068,"created_at_utc_B":1584048377,"score_A":27,"score_B":132,"human_ref_A":"Why do you think she can\u2019t have drugs? Did the vet decide that? Is she unwell?","human_ref_B":"Being old doesn't mean you can't have sedation or anesthesia. All being old means is that you are more likely to have other conditions that mean you can't have certain medications or anesthesia. Take her to the vet and let them decide what she can and can't have!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1309.0,"score_ratio":4.8888888889}
{"post_id":"fhn0yo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!","c_root_id_A":"fkcjhbm","c_root_id_B":"fkcg496","created_at_utc_A":1584054395,"created_at_utc_B":1584052358,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"13 is not terribly old for a cat. Unless your vet says so, she is not too old to be sedated to be shaved.","human_ref_B":"This can be used as an bonding experience for you both aswell but I would recommend (will sound strange ) finding a sensitive leave in conditioner or de-tangling spay and put one spritz on your cats fur and get a cat grooming comb designed for cats with long hair and do little bits at a time and this should help with mats and the tangles","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2037.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"d27go8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My cat passed yesterday. Can someone help me understand what happened? Hello friends,  As of yesterday, my favorite and oldest pet is no longer with me. I had 18 years with her -- literally since I was 11 years old. So as you can probably imagine, I'm a bit of a wreck right now.  Given that she was 19, I had no illusions she would be around much longer, but the manner of her death is what's getting to me so much. I work in critical care (human), so I'm not unaware of the toll and swiftness with which an overwhelming systemic pathology can take someones life. But this time it wasn't a patient of mine, it was my own family. I've been tearing myself up over this, but given that I'm not a physician or veterinary specialist I'm at a loss. I also understand that I'm essentially asking for an autopsy and diagnosis off of an internet post, so a needle in a thousand haystacks basically, but still, any input or anything you guys could give me would be much appreciated.   * **Species:** Cat * **Age:** 19 * **Sex\/Neuter status:** Spayed * **Breed:** Siamese * **Body weight:** Emaciated, but typically \"normal\" by visual appearance * **Clinical signs:** Weight loss, loss of balance and coordination, and finally loss of appetite.  * **Duration:** \\~2 weeks. Final deterioration to death over 4 days. * **History:** Chronic GI issues. She had issues with vomiting her entire life, regularly throwing up after meals. It would come and go, sometimes constant, other times absent. I eventually found a diet which seemed to help her, which consisted of a tablespoon of wet food mixed with a few tablespoons of dry food (hills science diet 11+ for both) which I would feed her a couple times a day. After being on this diet she would only vomit rarely. She also had subsequent issues with weight, it would move up and down, typically in relation to the frequency of vomiting. I also fed her a nutritional high-calorie supplement paste, which seemed to help. The frequency and amount also varied depending on her weight\/weight-loss. Lastly, she would occasionally have stools with small amounts of bright red blood, but this was rare and typically only occurred once or twice, after which it would be self-limiting and resolve.  * **Clinical Course:** Approximately two weeks ago she presented with her typical symptom of weight loss. Seeing this I increased her feeding amount, which she tolerated well. Things were proceeding normally until approximately four to five days days prior to death. She was suddenly more thin and weaker than ever before. Physically she was no longer able to jump over a 3 foot dog gate in my kitchen (which was never before an issue), but no other symptoms. Despite increasing her food, supplement, and water intake she continued to rapidly decline. The following day her gait was suddenly unsteady and unbalanced. I fed her again, without issue. That night, I found her laying across her cat bed, unable or unwilling to move, and she had urinated on herself. I freed her and noticed that she was suddenly barely able to walk at all. She tried to walk down my stairs and could barely manage, mostly falling from step to step. At that point I picked her up and sat with her on the couch until morning, she mostly didn't move t\/o the night. That morning her appetite was noticeably decreased for the first time, barely eating the supplement she usually loved. I had to work that same night, but according to my partner around 2200 she crawled (with difficulty) into my dogs bed and stayed there. She didn't eat and didn't move t\/o the night. I came home in the morning at 0700 to find her in the same spot. She was not moving and had not moved at all, urinated on herself again, and was almost completely non-responsive. The only response was a single and very weak little chirping meow when I came up to pet her (and she was a siamese, so normally very vocal), after that nothing at all. She passed a couple hours later, between 0900-1000.   So there it is. I don't know if it's enough to go on, but if any of you have any hunches on what might have happened I would really appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"eztp8s4","c_root_id_B":"ezt9pcl","created_at_utc_A":1568135553,"created_at_utc_B":1568125051,"score_A":28,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Had you taken her to the vet at any point when you noticed her health was failing? Older cats tend to have medical problems that lead to them dying, often times kidney failure and such. I\u2019m not a vet, though, so really the best thing to do in the future is schedule a vet visit. I\u2019m sure you\u2019d be able to find an affordable one if you call around.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for ur loss, I hope u find the answers u need. Remember u had her for a very long time, try to remember the good memories, stop beating ur self up I know it's hard","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10502.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqi0hvl","c_root_id_B":"hqi1yvm","created_at_utc_A":1640834506,"created_at_utc_B":1640835180,"score_A":97,"score_B":102,"human_ref_A":"Definitely bring it to the vets attention. Typically kennel staff and\/ or technicians take care of boarding animals, so sometimes vets aren\u2019t always fully aware of everything happening during boarding as they have appointments, surgeries, etc. Involving the vet, plus potentially the hospital manager, and letting them know what\u2019s going on will make sure they do some investigating to figure out what happened to make sure it doesn\u2019t continue (at least a good clinic will).","human_ref_B":"Forgetting medication and sending him home covered in urine is 100% not ok.  But sometimes pets that are boarding don't eat as much as they normally would. Some may even skip a whole meal. Sometimes we have to try different kinds of food than what they were brought with to get them to eat (assuming they don't have dietary restrictions). Some pets will also soil their kennel even if they never would at home. It's a different environment.  It's still worth calling to discuss concerns and see if they have insight into why this happened. Kennels tends to be tucked away in the back and many of the employees are high-schoolers or college students that are still learning and feedback can help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":674.0,"score_ratio":1.0515463918}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqhx2ff","c_root_id_B":"hqi1yvm","created_at_utc_A":1640832960,"created_at_utc_B":1640835180,"score_A":62,"score_B":102,"human_ref_A":"Definitely not normal. I'd be looking to board your dog elsewhere...and maybe find another vet as well.","human_ref_B":"Forgetting medication and sending him home covered in urine is 100% not ok.  But sometimes pets that are boarding don't eat as much as they normally would. Some may even skip a whole meal. Sometimes we have to try different kinds of food than what they were brought with to get them to eat (assuming they don't have dietary restrictions). Some pets will also soil their kennel even if they never would at home. It's a different environment.  It's still worth calling to discuss concerns and see if they have insight into why this happened. Kennels tends to be tucked away in the back and many of the employees are high-schoolers or college students that are still learning and feedback can help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2220.0,"score_ratio":1.6451612903}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqi1yvm","c_root_id_B":"hqhxynu","created_at_utc_A":1640835180,"created_at_utc_B":1640833364,"score_A":102,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Forgetting medication and sending him home covered in urine is 100% not ok.  But sometimes pets that are boarding don't eat as much as they normally would. Some may even skip a whole meal. Sometimes we have to try different kinds of food than what they were brought with to get them to eat (assuming they don't have dietary restrictions). Some pets will also soil their kennel even if they never would at home. It's a different environment.  It's still worth calling to discuss concerns and see if they have insight into why this happened. Kennels tends to be tucked away in the back and many of the employees are high-schoolers or college students that are still learning and feedback can help.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve worked in a kennel before and work in a vet hospital now. The \u201cmissed meals\u201d could possibly be if he didn\u2019t eat his meal, they just left it with him for the next meal instead of trashing it and filling the bowl again. When dogs are away from home a lot of the time their appetite is not as big especially in the first few days while they are adjusting. As for the urine on him, that\u2019s unfortunate. If it were me personally I would\u2019ve at least made an attempt to wipe it off with dog wipes if a bath wasn\u2019t feasible. Honestly, they\u2019re likely understaffed and it just wasn\u2019t a priority. That doesn\u2019t make it okay, but it\u2019s likely the truth. There\u2019s a huge shortage of techs and even doctors to work right now and so many people got pets during quarantine that demand for services is higher than ever, with half the staff. Sometimes we simply can\u2019t keep up and small things like that get pushed to the back burner for more pressing issues.  That\u2019s not me saying you shouldn\u2019t voice your concern to the hospital. If it really bothered you, then give them a call. Just please be civil about it. If you choose not to board with them anymore, that\u2019s okay. But don\u2019t throw \u201cI\u2019ll take my business elsewhere\u201d in their face or anything nasty. It just makes already over stressed techs have one more thing to ruin their day. Call and calmly voice your concerns, and then just start going somewhere else moving forward if you so choose.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1816.0,"score_ratio":5.1}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqi0hvl","c_root_id_B":"hqhx2ff","created_at_utc_A":1640834506,"created_at_utc_B":1640832960,"score_A":97,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"Definitely bring it to the vets attention. Typically kennel staff and\/ or technicians take care of boarding animals, so sometimes vets aren\u2019t always fully aware of everything happening during boarding as they have appointments, surgeries, etc. Involving the vet, plus potentially the hospital manager, and letting them know what\u2019s going on will make sure they do some investigating to figure out what happened to make sure it doesn\u2019t continue (at least a good clinic will).","human_ref_B":"Definitely not normal. I'd be looking to board your dog elsewhere...and maybe find another vet as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1546.0,"score_ratio":1.564516129}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqhxynu","c_root_id_B":"hqi0hvl","created_at_utc_A":1640833364,"created_at_utc_B":1640834506,"score_A":20,"score_B":97,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ve worked in a kennel before and work in a vet hospital now. The \u201cmissed meals\u201d could possibly be if he didn\u2019t eat his meal, they just left it with him for the next meal instead of trashing it and filling the bowl again. When dogs are away from home a lot of the time their appetite is not as big especially in the first few days while they are adjusting. As for the urine on him, that\u2019s unfortunate. If it were me personally I would\u2019ve at least made an attempt to wipe it off with dog wipes if a bath wasn\u2019t feasible. Honestly, they\u2019re likely understaffed and it just wasn\u2019t a priority. That doesn\u2019t make it okay, but it\u2019s likely the truth. There\u2019s a huge shortage of techs and even doctors to work right now and so many people got pets during quarantine that demand for services is higher than ever, with half the staff. Sometimes we simply can\u2019t keep up and small things like that get pushed to the back burner for more pressing issues.  That\u2019s not me saying you shouldn\u2019t voice your concern to the hospital. If it really bothered you, then give them a call. Just please be civil about it. If you choose not to board with them anymore, that\u2019s okay. But don\u2019t throw \u201cI\u2019ll take my business elsewhere\u201d in their face or anything nasty. It just makes already over stressed techs have one more thing to ruin their day. Call and calmly voice your concerns, and then just start going somewhere else moving forward if you so choose.","human_ref_B":"Definitely bring it to the vets attention. Typically kennel staff and\/ or technicians take care of boarding animals, so sometimes vets aren\u2019t always fully aware of everything happening during boarding as they have appointments, surgeries, etc. Involving the vet, plus potentially the hospital manager, and letting them know what\u2019s going on will make sure they do some investigating to figure out what happened to make sure it doesn\u2019t continue (at least a good clinic will).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1142.0,"score_ratio":4.85}
{"post_id":"rrouh3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Is this a typical boarding experience at a vet? I have a 4 year old stuffy mix. Anytime we\u2019ve traveled, we have boarded him at the vet because he has allergy issues and we trusted that the vet would be his best option for more complex care.   In September, we boarded him for one week and the vet (or whomever was taking care of him, likely a tech) forgot to give him his allergy medication, and he had a massive breakout with bleeding sores on his feet. We understood that theses things can happen and it was likely a miscommunication. They also missed feeding him one meal.  We had to board him for 10 days this holiday season, and we went back to our vet to do it. This time we really stressed how much he needed his medication. Based off of our findings when we dug through his bag, it looks like they gave him his medication, but they missed three meals.   We also picked him up too late in the day to have a bath before pick up, and when we got him home, we realized at some point he had been laying in his own urine and they did not wash it off of him. It was to the point that his skin and belly were sticky with urine. This is even bigger of a concern to me because they keep the animals in crate style boarding and he has never peed in his crate, on top of being able to hold it for 12 hours if necessary.   We are really upset about this experience because of everything that has gone on and had planned to call the vet in the morning to voice our concerns. My big question here is: am I overreacting? Is this what to expect of boarding at our vet?   Initially we had really trusted this vet, but there have been a couple of things that have popped up in the last eight months that I haven\u2019t loved, but we were trying to give grace recovering from a pandemic. This just feels like icing on the cake\u2026.","c_root_id_A":"hqikp77","c_root_id_B":"hqjf1fy","created_at_utc_A":1640844897,"created_at_utc_B":1640867367,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I recommend writing them an email to voice your concerns as it can get heated over the phone, or things are unheard. In writing it lets them read it thoroughly and write a more detail response (hopefully) apologizing. It also leaves documentary. Another point is that sometimes they get super busy and may not have time to be on the phone for very long (ex: 5 lines on hold) so an email would be a better way of communication for complaints like these.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d never board at a veterinarian office.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22470.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"i5tkpx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Kitten Suckling Has Gotten Bad... Real Bad. Species:  Cat (Kittens)  Age:  Approx. 6 weeks old.  Sex\/Neuter Status:  Not fixed.  Breed:  Domestic short-hair.  Juno's Weight (female): 537 g  Apollo's Weight (male): 751 g  Problem:  I reached out to this thread a few weeks ago when this issue first started.  A solution of a kitten sweater proved to help, as was suggested from the Humane Society I foster through.  However, things have gotten worse.  My smallest 6 week old kitten, Juno, will not stop suckling on her brother's penis.  **She is actively drinking his pee and suckling on him for comfort.**  She does this all the time, even right after feedings.  The problem is that Apollo (the victim) does not stop her, and seems to enjoy it?  It's really weird, and I cannot find any information on how to stop this.  I can only assume that it is NOT healthy in the slightest.  They are both actively learning to use the litter box, and when Apollo has his kitten sweater on he cannot use the bathroom.  As soon as I take it off, Juno strikes.  She actively seeks him out whenever she can, and I am at a loss on what to do.  I have reached out to the Humane Society a few times, but they are being struck real hard with kitten season and reduced staff, and have not been able to respond to my inquiries.  I am sincerely hoping someone here can offer insight on what to do.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"g0rjl85","c_root_id_B":"g0rk8wy","created_at_utc_A":1596866368,"created_at_utc_B":1596866920,"score_A":86,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"Yeah, unfortunately, it\u2019s not uncommon, and it\u2019s really not good for him. A crate with a divider in it so they\u2019re able to still smell and be close but can\u2019t touch when they aren\u2019t being supervised is the next step.","human_ref_B":"Separate them completely.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":552.0,"score_ratio":1.1511627907}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erp2g13","c_root_id_B":"erp4ri9","created_at_utc_A":1561096860,"created_at_utc_B":1561099668,"score_A":28,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"I am sure your vet would be more than happy to go through a quality of life exam with you. It wouldn\u2019t mean a decision would have to be made that day, and you might have a clearer picture afterwards. You sound like a great pet parent","human_ref_B":"Saying goodbye to a beloved family member is the fucking worst. I love the quote that they will give you the best days of your life and one of the worst. I would also recommend having a quality of life check with your Vet. Go through everything and get their medical opinion. It can help put in perspective the reality of what you can expect. Being a large breed dog and 12yrs old she has excelled at life already. It sucks that their life span is so short compared to ours but as they age you need to consider quality over quantity. When the time comes, it's going to hurt like a bitch. It hurts so bad because we love them so much. But as they age and struggle, we are able to afford them a higher dignity than humans in ending any suffering. You have to decide when is right and it'll probably never feel 100% right (can't they just live forever?) but you'll be left with so many glorious, happy memories that I promise will eventually outweigh her passing. She will never truly leave you. I wish you all the best and all the hugs in the world. The hashtag is true: we don't deserve dogs.  Sidenote: Please stay with her, if and when the time comes. It'll be sad and terrible and a lot of people don't think they can do it but it'll mean the world to her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2808.0,"score_ratio":2.1071428571}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erplb93","c_root_id_B":"erpc3y8","created_at_utc_A":1561121348,"created_at_utc_B":1561110555,"score_A":15,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Better a day early than a week late.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry that you are going through this. I always look at it from the perspective of quality of life. You know your girl the best and will notice attitude changes and normal activities start taking more effort then normal (eg you mention increasing mobility issues).   Euthanasia should never be an easy decision, but I am greatful that its an option to ease the suffering of our four legged friends. As painful as it is to say goodbye, it also becomes very painful to watch them deteriorate.   Not to be morbid but it is always heart wrenching to see someones pet when they've waited a bit too long to make a decision and the animal has clearly suffered because of the wait. Often when people want to let 'nature take its course' it's not as peaceful or quick as they envisioned and no one wants to say goodbye to their pet after an emergency dash to the vet at 2am and have their final memories of a much loved fur baby be full of panic and distress for both human and pet.  Someone commenting on a similar post had a really thought provoking quote (I cant remember is verbatim) but it was basically as far as a pet is concerned they don't have an expecatation of how long their life will be, they only know how they feel eg happy, painful, scared etc. So from that perspective it is better to euthanize a week early rather than a day too late.    My big suggestion if you go for euthanasia would be to give your vet a call and have a chat with them about that to expect beforehand, that way if you're more comfortable with knowing what will happen then although it will never be an easy day it might but just a tiny bit less stressful. Many vets will take  their time and walk you through the process if\/when you do take her into the clinic or they come out to your home. If you book an appointment then perhaps take some time beforehand and just spend some time together. We've had clients who have spent the morning going for a nice drive or spending time at the beach before coming in. Take a favourite toy\/treat, a comfy bed or blanket with you and ask as many questions beforehand and on the day, as you need to be confident and comfortable with your decision. Also please, please dont feel like you have to 'act tough' for the staffs benefit. Cry if you want to, you wont be the first or the last to do so, you're saying good bye to a furry family member, no one will think less of you.    It is clear your girl is a much loved family member and I'm sorry that you are now having to face making tough decisions. Make sure you allow yourself time to grieve but also time to reflect on all the wonderful memories you must have with your beautiful Mia.  Hugs to you and your fur baby \ud83d\udc36","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10793.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erplb93","c_root_id_B":"erph16n","created_at_utc_A":1561121348,"created_at_utc_B":1561117091,"score_A":15,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Better a day early than a week late.","human_ref_B":"If you wait till your 100% sure, you probably waited too long.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4257.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erplb93","c_root_id_B":"erpf6wk","created_at_utc_A":1561121348,"created_at_utc_B":1561114880,"score_A":15,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Better a day early than a week late.","human_ref_B":"Saying goodbye to a family member and your best friend of more than a decade is always - no matter the circumstances- an extremely difficult decision to make...  This is a good guide as to when the time has come - I recommend scheduling an appointment with your local veterinarian to discuss your dog\u2018s condition and potentially adapt his palliative pain management :) I wish you two all the best on your way ahead!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6468.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erpijet","c_root_id_B":"erplb93","created_at_utc_A":1561118719,"created_at_utc_B":1561121348,"score_A":4,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"It's a really hard decision when it's a slow decline like htat. I met a family having to put their GSD down due to hip dysplasia that they watched it progress all their life. I don't envy you having to make the decision.     The best thing I can say is you know your dog. Is she still seeming to be able to enjoy the things she likes mostly? Or is she mostly focused on the pain? Also, does the pain seem so bad that potentially she may not find the good stuff worth it (I had a cat with mouth cancer that still tried to eat and acted mostly normal but she'd have fits of pain so bad that all she could do was stare and tense up her entire body so it was frozen and that is when we decided it was time).      Is she wanting to move a lot or is she happy staying in one spot? Can she be comfortable sitting or is she even uncomfortable then. If she doesn't want to sit all the time and she can't be made comfortable moving, it may be time. Hell, even if she can't change positions without discomfort (Even if you like to be in one spot you usually like to shift around... I was in a motorcycle accident and couldn't shift around easily and yes, it got very uncomfortable), it may be time.     In the end, you will have to make the judgement based on your understanding of her if it is time. It's not an easy decision and I don't envy you (hardest part about owning a pet imho).","human_ref_B":"Better a day early than a week late.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2629.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"c36af0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I'm at a loss on when to say goodbye. I have a 12 year old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, Mia. She has always been my rock, she been with me since the beginning and has helped me through so many of life's moments. She taught me how to care for another being. She taught me responsibility in my early 20s. She got me off the couch when all I wanted to do was sit there. She helped me meet the love of my life and now has helped me to start to raise my own child in my 30s.      I couldn't ask for a better companion in these life stages I've been through.      And now I don't know how to help her.     We know she had hip dysplasia when she was around 6 years old, and put her on medication for it. We know she's had some nerve damage in her spine and hips. She's been on Rimadyl and Gabapentin for the last 4 years. Starting at 10 she slowed down a lot, but would still jump up and have 5-10 minutes of puppy time a day.      She's 12 and a half now, absolutely great for a Swissy. We've got a year and a half kiddo who she dotes on with kisses daily. But she can't go for walks anymore. She has a hard time standing on occasion. She no longer can climb the stairs to go outside, I have to help her in and out. I do the best I can to give her as much love and attention as I can, but with the kiddo its hard to devote much during my daughters waking hours.      She doesn't seem to need much and I'm glad to lay down and scratch her ears. Lately I can tell she's in pain, even with her pills and helping her up the stairs I can feel her hips grinding, clicking and worse.      I just, I just don't know what to do anymore...      I know she's old and I'm not sure what I can do to help a dog at her age.      My family tells me it's time to say goodbye.      But I don't know how. She's been by my side basically my entire adult life.      I don't know how anyone here can help, but if you can, I'd deeply appreciate it.","c_root_id_A":"erpf6wk","c_root_id_B":"erph16n","created_at_utc_A":1561114880,"created_at_utc_B":1561117091,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Saying goodbye to a family member and your best friend of more than a decade is always - no matter the circumstances- an extremely difficult decision to make...  This is a good guide as to when the time has come - I recommend scheduling an appointment with your local veterinarian to discuss your dog\u2018s condition and potentially adapt his palliative pain management :) I wish you two all the best on your way ahead!","human_ref_B":"If you wait till your 100% sure, you probably waited too long.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2211.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"az7j98","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Immense guilt over putting my dog to sleep My dog Milo was nearly 16 years old. He had been having health issues for quite some time (incontinence, kidney problems, no teeth, skin disorders) but overall still maintained his quality-of-life. He hadn\u2019t yet been diagnosed but the vet saw him this past weekend and suspected that he had Cushings, cancer or kidney failure based on his symptoms (or some combination). He indicated that Milo could have some level of treatment but that it would provide minimal help. He indicated that I had been taking care of Milo longer than most would have given his symptoms, and suggested it might be time to let him go.   I said goodbye to Milo on Wednesday and have been feeling immense guilt over whether that was the right call. Did I take the \u2018easy\u2019 way out because Milo\u2019s health was taking over my life? Is it better to wait until a pup is truly suffering and in pain to let them go? Would a vet ever suggest putting a dog to sleep if there were other better options?  This is truly one of the most difficult things I\u2019ve ever been through and the guilt on top of the loss is more than I can handle...","c_root_id_A":"ei64l3x","c_root_id_B":"ei656bo","created_at_utc_A":1552171403,"created_at_utc_B":1552171889,"score_A":26,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"No, you did the right thing. You cared for him, made his life as great as you could, and when you were told that he was only going to get worse, and there wasn't much you could do to help, you made sure he ended his life still comfortable. I know how hard it is to lose a beloved pet, but know that he holds nothing but love for you <3","human_ref_B":"Animals have no concept of mortality, but they do have a concept of suffering without knowing why. Thus, in a situation where alleviating that suffering to allow for an acceptable quality of life isn't an option, euthanasia is the right decision.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":486.0,"score_ratio":1.9615384615}
{"post_id":"az7j98","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Immense guilt over putting my dog to sleep My dog Milo was nearly 16 years old. He had been having health issues for quite some time (incontinence, kidney problems, no teeth, skin disorders) but overall still maintained his quality-of-life. He hadn\u2019t yet been diagnosed but the vet saw him this past weekend and suspected that he had Cushings, cancer or kidney failure based on his symptoms (or some combination). He indicated that Milo could have some level of treatment but that it would provide minimal help. He indicated that I had been taking care of Milo longer than most would have given his symptoms, and suggested it might be time to let him go.   I said goodbye to Milo on Wednesday and have been feeling immense guilt over whether that was the right call. Did I take the \u2018easy\u2019 way out because Milo\u2019s health was taking over my life? Is it better to wait until a pup is truly suffering and in pain to let them go? Would a vet ever suggest putting a dog to sleep if there were other better options?  This is truly one of the most difficult things I\u2019ve ever been through and the guilt on top of the loss is more than I can handle...","c_root_id_A":"ei67oei","c_root_id_B":"ei64l3x","created_at_utc_A":1552174026,"created_at_utc_B":1552171403,"score_A":34,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"My vet says better a week early than a day late. Sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"No, you did the right thing. You cared for him, made his life as great as you could, and when you were told that he was only going to get worse, and there wasn't much you could do to help, you made sure he ended his life still comfortable. I know how hard it is to lose a beloved pet, but know that he holds nothing but love for you <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2623.0,"score_ratio":1.3076923077}
{"post_id":"x6mu86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Urgent: dads dog ate grass for 40 minutes straight Hi, my dad just called to tell me that his dog (I live about 2 hours away) was eating grass for 40 minutes straight. He called the vet but they\u2019re closed due to Labor Day. Would a dog eat grass this long for regular gastrointestinal upset, or does this indicate something more serious like ingesting a toxin or a GI blockage? Basically, does this warrant an emergency vet trip, or is it okay to wait and call the regular vet when they open in the morning?  For context, female mixed breed dog, 45-50 lbs, ~9 years old, no health conditions other than a bad knee, she hasn\u2019t thrown up or had a BM yet, and they didn\u2019t see her ingest anything strange.","c_root_id_A":"in7tetf","c_root_id_B":"in853ty","created_at_utc_A":1662403538,"created_at_utc_B":1662408468,"score_A":62,"score_B":121,"human_ref_A":"I don't think this warrants an emergency vet visit, but I would call an emergency vet and ask what they think. Hope this helps!","human_ref_B":"She may just have a tummy ache. Try to feed boiled chicken and rice for her next meal as a gastro friendly option.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4930.0,"score_ratio":1.9516129032}
{"post_id":"x6mu86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Urgent: dads dog ate grass for 40 minutes straight Hi, my dad just called to tell me that his dog (I live about 2 hours away) was eating grass for 40 minutes straight. He called the vet but they\u2019re closed due to Labor Day. Would a dog eat grass this long for regular gastrointestinal upset, or does this indicate something more serious like ingesting a toxin or a GI blockage? Basically, does this warrant an emergency vet trip, or is it okay to wait and call the regular vet when they open in the morning?  For context, female mixed breed dog, 45-50 lbs, ~9 years old, no health conditions other than a bad knee, she hasn\u2019t thrown up or had a BM yet, and they didn\u2019t see her ingest anything strange.","c_root_id_A":"in8at6y","c_root_id_B":"in7tetf","created_at_utc_A":1662410904,"created_at_utc_B":1662403538,"score_A":113,"score_B":62,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes dogs come across a particularly juicy and sweet patch of grass that is irresistible. It doesn\u2019t necessarily mean they are sick or self-medicating. They may be hungry or bored. I\u2019d keep a close eye on the dog to watch for any change in behaviour such as vomiting. Calling the vet is a good idea if the dog seems unwell.","human_ref_B":"I don't think this warrants an emergency vet visit, but I would call an emergency vet and ask what they think. Hope this helps!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7366.0,"score_ratio":1.8225806452}
{"post_id":"x6mu86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Urgent: dads dog ate grass for 40 minutes straight Hi, my dad just called to tell me that his dog (I live about 2 hours away) was eating grass for 40 minutes straight. He called the vet but they\u2019re closed due to Labor Day. Would a dog eat grass this long for regular gastrointestinal upset, or does this indicate something more serious like ingesting a toxin or a GI blockage? Basically, does this warrant an emergency vet trip, or is it okay to wait and call the regular vet when they open in the morning?  For context, female mixed breed dog, 45-50 lbs, ~9 years old, no health conditions other than a bad knee, she hasn\u2019t thrown up or had a BM yet, and they didn\u2019t see her ingest anything strange.","c_root_id_A":"in8k9t5","c_root_id_B":"in8kt1z","created_at_utc_A":1662415047,"created_at_utc_B":1662415287,"score_A":22,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"If the grass itself was not going down well he'd probably puke it up. This looks quite good:  https:\/\/dogadvisorycouncil.com\/dog-suddenly-eating-grass-like-crazy\/","human_ref_B":"If no weed killer used on that gas, it is not an emergency.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":240.0,"score_ratio":1.9090909091}
{"post_id":"u9e5tf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Lost puppy to parvo, how long to wait until we get a new pet? We sadly lost our 9 week old puppy to suspected parvo earlier this month. We have steam cleaned our carpets and upholstery and also bought a disinfectant recommended by a vet which we've used on surfaces and floors. We have got rid of everything our little pup used\/slept on etc. We don't have a garden and our puppy hadn't yet gone outside.  When can we safely introduce a new puppy or dog into our apartment? We were also interested in the likelihood of a cat catching canine parvo?  (We're in the UK)  Thanks so much.","c_root_id_A":"i5rdbk8","c_root_id_B":"i5qvdmu","created_at_utc_A":1650641391,"created_at_utc_B":1650633908,"score_A":129,"score_B":94,"human_ref_A":"Soil can hold parvo up to two years. It's really unfortunate but I would agree to get a dog that has all its vaccinations and is a little older than a brand new 8 to 10 week old puppy.","human_ref_B":"You should look into getting a fully vaccinated dog (pup greater than 5 months old with all his vaccines from a reputable source like a shelter i.e. don't trust breeder vaccine records) or a cat. If getting a younger puppy you will need to wait at least 12 months, but in the right circumstances parvo can survive years in the environment. One of the hardest areas to \"disinfect\" is the yard.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7483.0,"score_ratio":1.3723404255}
{"post_id":"ntfnjv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ingested tea tree oil and I have no available 27\/7 animal hospitals or vets. My dog isn't showing any symptoms at the moment, but what can I do to help him? My dog is a small, 7 lbs Yorkie Terrier mix.   I read that as little as 7 drops of tea tree oil can be toxic. My dog definitely drank a bit more than that. This happened about an hour ago and he isn't showing any significant symptoms. He's sleeping at the moment but when awake behaves as he always does.   It's quite late at night where I am and there aren't any available vets or animal hospitals near me. There is a hotline, but the consultation fee is way out of my budget. If there is no other option, I will call, though.   Is ingesting tea tree oil always fatal? Is there anything I can do to help him? I've read that giving them milk and water can help induce vomiting, which can help when eating something toxic.  Please, any advice is greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h0rwid2","c_root_id_B":"h0ruyj2","created_at_utc_A":1622966867,"created_at_utc_B":1622965445,"score_A":52,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"Tea tree oil toxicity can be very dangerous.   There are documented cases of pets getting very sick from having 100% tea tree oil applied on the skin as a home remedy, and as you can imagine, absorption into the system is much more effective if the oil is orally ingested. Induced vomiting is typically contraindicated, as is may lead to aspiration pneumonia. Additionally, while symptoms typically onset within 2-8 hrs, they can also begin as late as a day later. To really drive the point home of how serious this can get, please see this excerpt from the above link:  \"Partial paralysis of the hind limbs, ataxia and depressed behaviour was reported in two dogs treated with only 7\u20138 drops of 100% tea tree oil as a flea repellent applied along their spines.\" Again, this refers to a topical application, which can be more easily decontaminated. If you read more on that link, you will see that there are additional cases where dogs have died from this toxicosis.  Overall, I highly, highly encourage you to seek out a veterinary provider ASAP. If there is a 24\/7 emergency vet open ANYWHERE near you, I would highly encourage that you at least call them for a phone consult. Considering how small your dog is, how much they ingested, and the strength of the toxin, there is a very high probability that your dog will develop symptoms within the next 24 hours. This is an urgent matter, and unfortunately no home remedies will be able to solve it. I wish you and your pup the best of luck.","human_ref_B":"First of all... I want to say that I am not a vet.  However, I do know that inducing vomiting without having full knowledge of what you are dealing with can cause more harm than good - as some substances can cause additional damage on the way back out.  In cases of ingestion of a toxin, time is of the essence.  Even if you were to go to an emergency vet right now, they may have you call the hotline yourself anyway.    When you call the hotline, they will ask you questions about the product ingested (e.g., what was it), how much was ingested, and the size\/weight of your dog.  They will be able to tell you what steps you need to take and whether or not you should induce vomiting or if that's even a reasonable option at this point.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1422.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"efgszm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat Dying. Any help appreciated. Our cat Wawa, about ten years old has been doing very poor. My wife and I thought he seemed like he was loosing weight a bit but then it plummeted and suddenly he would not get out of bed. Spent 24 hours just laying. We got him into the vet. He was down almost half his body weight 20lbs to 10.5lbs. Did bloodwork, x-ray, & EKG. Everything was normal except for I believe a slight elevated white blood cell level. Said indicates a possible infection. They gave him fluids, a shot of antibiotics, and antibiotics for at home. He seemed much better the next day at least was moving around again. Just for good measure we did a home urinalysis kit and it tested positive for protein. Negative for blood, glucose, ph was a little off. Since then he just seems in the middle. Still moves around. Slight socialization. But his weight continues to fall. He\u2019s vomiting yellow bile. Has diarrhea. Goofy eyes. Is drinking a little bit seems to not be eating still. I called vet again. She seemed to think maybe it was heart disease (his temp was a bit low when she saw him) but with his age and the high cost of diagnosis. We opted to try him on a steroid and appetite stimulator in addition to the antibiotics to see what happens. It\u2019s been about a week no change. He is so in between that we can\u2019t tell if he\u2019s in pain or wether we should keep waiting for improvement or if it\u2019s just his time. Giving him any of the meds liquid or pill had been horrible. He starts drooling perfusly every time we grab him for meds. Any insight would be great.","c_root_id_A":"fc08k0t","c_root_id_B":"fc0al72","created_at_utc_A":1577283004,"created_at_utc_B":1577285077,"score_A":29,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"I would spend the money on a workup, 10 is not that old for a cat. I would also ask if an internal medicine specialist is recommended.  Is he currently eating?","human_ref_B":"Additional testing would be needed to give you a better answer. Likely referral to an internal medicine specialist and an ultrasound as a start, but I can\u2019t really predict what exactly would be recommended without seeing your cat. This is what I would do if it were me.  I did notice, however, that you\u2019ve got some financial limitations, and not everyone can afford specialty care and I want you to know that\u2019s ok. It doesn\u2019t make you a bad owner.  But I am worried because your vet has done a good job of treating everything that is readily treatable, so the options on the table now are more difficult to find and treat than the usual suspects. And, again, that means more money and, until we know what it is, there is no guarantee it\u2019s even treatable.  I bring this up because if you cannot treat your cat (because of finances, her personality and difficulty medicating, whatever) and she is doing poorly, it\u2019s not wrong to talk to your veterinarian about when it\u2019s time to decide on euthanasia. Even if it\u2019s something treatable, if we don\u2019t or can\u2019t treat it, it\u2019s not really treatable, is it? Your vet may have some other options available to you, so you should speak to them for help making a decision, or they may agree that it\u2019s time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2073.0,"score_ratio":3.4137931034}
{"post_id":"9scwjh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat expericing liver failure after being prescribed Fluoxetine. Am I being emotional or do I have a right to be angry? About three months ago my GF and I moved to Raleigh, NC with her two cats. She took them both to a local vet to get a relationship established and make sure they were healthy. They had always been healthy in the past besides being a little overweight. The doctor prescribed one of them Fluoxetine, citing that the cat's anxiety was causing her to overeat. Even though the doctor had blood work taken, she had the medicine prescribed before reading the results which I found odd, but she later said the results were perfectly fine. The cat immediately stopped eating and was pretty much in a perpetual zombie state. This proceeded for a few weeks until I demanded my gf take the cat back to the vet. She had lost 1\/3 of her bodyweight in three weeks and the vet said that is a normal side effect and she'll adjust to the medicine. Another two weeks passes and the cat still has not eaten. She's has completely stopped playing or showing interest in anything. Sleeps in the empty bathtub, etc. Just very unusual behavior. A few days later she sleeps on me and refuses to get off of me. And she feels like a complete skeleton. I sat her down and her legs went out from under her. We took her to the emergency vet and they said her liver is failing. Some of her liver values are 12x the high end of normal and her blood isn't clotting at all. The ER vet believes this is either feline Lymphoma or hepatic lipidosis. It sounds to me that if it is lipidosis, it was almost undoubtedly set on by the Fluoxetine and the vet was incredibly neglagent in not recognizing, despite our voiced concerns. Now we're left with a $5000 vet bill and a cat that is unlikely to survive. I know my emotions are playing a huge role so I'm likely being irrational, but I can't help but feel anything but boiling anger towards the original vet. Thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"e8o09ge","c_root_id_B":"e8o0jbn","created_at_utc_A":1540826419,"created_at_utc_B":1540826650,"score_A":17,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but I do want to add that, just as is the case with people, meds are not one size fits all, and there is an adjustment period to these types of meds. The advantage people have is we can voice when we know something is just not right or if our feelings\/side effects seem like they\u2019re out of the ordinary. Unfortunately animals can not tell us this, and it\u2019s possible this medication was just not compatible with your cat. The cat\u2019s behavior you describe honestly reminds me of a person not adjusting well to such meds.  When a cat refuses to eat for more than even 24 hours it can start to cause problems, and a prolonged period is obviously worse. While this medication may not be related to liver issues directly, if the cat was not eating and lost significant amounts of weight because of side effects, then it is likely correlated. Liver issues can stem directly from not eating. I have had many cats over the years and I\u2019m a huge worrier so I\u2019ve done a lot of research on these types of things....  I\u2019m sorry this is happening to you and I hope you can figure something out to help your kitty. I would be absolutely furious. It sounds like your vet was a bit dismissive of your concerns, which is never okay.","human_ref_B":"I am really sorry you are going through this. I know a very good vet in your area if you need recommendations in the future. I hope little one will make it !","labels":0,"seconds_difference":231.0,"score_ratio":1.7647058824}
{"post_id":"9scwjh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat expericing liver failure after being prescribed Fluoxetine. Am I being emotional or do I have a right to be angry? About three months ago my GF and I moved to Raleigh, NC with her two cats. She took them both to a local vet to get a relationship established and make sure they were healthy. They had always been healthy in the past besides being a little overweight. The doctor prescribed one of them Fluoxetine, citing that the cat's anxiety was causing her to overeat. Even though the doctor had blood work taken, she had the medicine prescribed before reading the results which I found odd, but she later said the results were perfectly fine. The cat immediately stopped eating and was pretty much in a perpetual zombie state. This proceeded for a few weeks until I demanded my gf take the cat back to the vet. She had lost 1\/3 of her bodyweight in three weeks and the vet said that is a normal side effect and she'll adjust to the medicine. Another two weeks passes and the cat still has not eaten. She's has completely stopped playing or showing interest in anything. Sleeps in the empty bathtub, etc. Just very unusual behavior. A few days later she sleeps on me and refuses to get off of me. And she feels like a complete skeleton. I sat her down and her legs went out from under her. We took her to the emergency vet and they said her liver is failing. Some of her liver values are 12x the high end of normal and her blood isn't clotting at all. The ER vet believes this is either feline Lymphoma or hepatic lipidosis. It sounds to me that if it is lipidosis, it was almost undoubtedly set on by the Fluoxetine and the vet was incredibly neglagent in not recognizing, despite our voiced concerns. Now we're left with a $5000 vet bill and a cat that is unlikely to survive. I know my emotions are playing a huge role so I'm likely being irrational, but I can't help but feel anything but boiling anger towards the original vet. Thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"e8o09ge","c_root_id_B":"e8o0s9a","created_at_utc_A":1540826419,"created_at_utc_B":1540826858,"score_A":17,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but I do want to add that, just as is the case with people, meds are not one size fits all, and there is an adjustment period to these types of meds. The advantage people have is we can voice when we know something is just not right or if our feelings\/side effects seem like they\u2019re out of the ordinary. Unfortunately animals can not tell us this, and it\u2019s possible this medication was just not compatible with your cat. The cat\u2019s behavior you describe honestly reminds me of a person not adjusting well to such meds.  When a cat refuses to eat for more than even 24 hours it can start to cause problems, and a prolonged period is obviously worse. While this medication may not be related to liver issues directly, if the cat was not eating and lost significant amounts of weight because of side effects, then it is likely correlated. Liver issues can stem directly from not eating. I have had many cats over the years and I\u2019m a huge worrier so I\u2019ve done a lot of research on these types of things....  I\u2019m sorry this is happening to you and I hope you can figure something out to help your kitty. I would be absolutely furious. It sounds like your vet was a bit dismissive of your concerns, which is never okay.","human_ref_B":"Over the several weeks where your car was losing weight and not eating, did anyone from the clinic call you to get an update?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":439.0,"score_ratio":1.2941176471}
{"post_id":"9scwjh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat expericing liver failure after being prescribed Fluoxetine. Am I being emotional or do I have a right to be angry? About three months ago my GF and I moved to Raleigh, NC with her two cats. She took them both to a local vet to get a relationship established and make sure they were healthy. They had always been healthy in the past besides being a little overweight. The doctor prescribed one of them Fluoxetine, citing that the cat's anxiety was causing her to overeat. Even though the doctor had blood work taken, she had the medicine prescribed before reading the results which I found odd, but she later said the results were perfectly fine. The cat immediately stopped eating and was pretty much in a perpetual zombie state. This proceeded for a few weeks until I demanded my gf take the cat back to the vet. She had lost 1\/3 of her bodyweight in three weeks and the vet said that is a normal side effect and she'll adjust to the medicine. Another two weeks passes and the cat still has not eaten. She's has completely stopped playing or showing interest in anything. Sleeps in the empty bathtub, etc. Just very unusual behavior. A few days later she sleeps on me and refuses to get off of me. And she feels like a complete skeleton. I sat her down and her legs went out from under her. We took her to the emergency vet and they said her liver is failing. Some of her liver values are 12x the high end of normal and her blood isn't clotting at all. The ER vet believes this is either feline Lymphoma or hepatic lipidosis. It sounds to me that if it is lipidosis, it was almost undoubtedly set on by the Fluoxetine and the vet was incredibly neglagent in not recognizing, despite our voiced concerns. Now we're left with a $5000 vet bill and a cat that is unlikely to survive. I know my emotions are playing a huge role so I'm likely being irrational, but I can't help but feel anything but boiling anger towards the original vet. Thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"e8omgrj","c_root_id_B":"e8ot5rk","created_at_utc_A":1540844137,"created_at_utc_B":1540849582,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"If the cat passes, you do have the option to get a necropsy and histopathology done. This will likely tell you what was going on.","human_ref_B":"It sounds like your gf failed to follow up with the vet in a timely manner when the treatment was not working. It's generally the owner's responsibility to do so.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5445.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu7ea9i","c_root_id_B":"iu75s6o","created_at_utc_A":1667012447,"created_at_utc_B":1667008114,"score_A":133,"score_B":70,"human_ref_A":"Licensed Veterinary Technician here.  In my general practice we would present an estimate and explain that the estimate did NOT include periodontal treatments or extractions.  We would call during the procedure if anything needed to be done.  Not all practices will do this, we have animals under anesthesia and time is critical for their safety.  Some practices have fine print that you agree to any treatments or extractions even if they do not contact you.  Make sure you read all of the paperwork, ask questions, request phone calls, etc.  I am sorry this happened to you, I hope your dog has a speedy recovery and is healthier in the long run.","human_ref_B":"Extremely normal.  8y smaller breed dog - I am surprised there weren't more that needed to come out; however, they definitely should have told you of the possibility ahead of time.  Was it in your estimate for the procedure?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4333.0,"score_ratio":1.9}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu7ea9i","c_root_id_B":"iu75mj0","created_at_utc_A":1667012447,"created_at_utc_B":1667008035,"score_A":133,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Licensed Veterinary Technician here.  In my general practice we would present an estimate and explain that the estimate did NOT include periodontal treatments or extractions.  We would call during the procedure if anything needed to be done.  Not all practices will do this, we have animals under anesthesia and time is critical for their safety.  Some practices have fine print that you agree to any treatments or extractions even if they do not contact you.  Make sure you read all of the paperwork, ask questions, request phone calls, etc.  I am sorry this happened to you, I hope your dog has a speedy recovery and is healthier in the long run.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s common but generally the vet will discuss it with you before the extraction.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4412.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu75s6o","c_root_id_B":"iu82vrd","created_at_utc_A":1667008114,"created_at_utc_B":1667030180,"score_A":70,"score_B":94,"human_ref_A":"Extremely normal.  8y smaller breed dog - I am surprised there weren't more that needed to come out; however, they definitely should have told you of the possibility ahead of time.  Was it in your estimate for the procedure?","human_ref_B":"Agree with the above, and would like to include why it's great your vet did this (even though I'm not a fan of extracting without telling an owner, and especially without explaining why, so the communication around it definitely could've been better!).  Loose teeth hurt. Most animals don't show this well as it's a gradual process. Often it starts with dental plaque, the bacteria start eating away at the gums and the ligaments around the tooth. This gets worse and worse so the stability is lost. Once this is gone, there's no way of getting it back. Every time your pet takes a bite, they feel the teeth wobbling around, this can be painful so generally they try to avoid it.   Secondly, the chronic infection and inflammation is bad for the rest of the body. Constantly having to fight the bacteria is hard on the organs, especially liver and kidneys. We often see that these animals have elevated blood values, especially if left untreated for a long period or time.  We also know that the bacteria in the gums often end up in the blood stream (at least in humans, there's ongoing research to prove this in animals). These bacteria can end up in very important organs such as the heart, giving an increased risk of heart valve infections etc.   It's great that your dog can now recover and hopefully spend a good few years without problems again, and great that you obviously just want the best for your dog. It's likely that she will need more teeth removed in the coming years, this is very common in small breeds. To keep her mouth as healthy as possible, the best thing you can do is brush her teeth daily (once she's recovered from her dental and your vet has given you the all clear to start).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22066.0,"score_ratio":1.3428571429}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu82vrd","c_root_id_B":"iu75mj0","created_at_utc_A":1667030180,"created_at_utc_B":1667008035,"score_A":94,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Agree with the above, and would like to include why it's great your vet did this (even though I'm not a fan of extracting without telling an owner, and especially without explaining why, so the communication around it definitely could've been better!).  Loose teeth hurt. Most animals don't show this well as it's a gradual process. Often it starts with dental plaque, the bacteria start eating away at the gums and the ligaments around the tooth. This gets worse and worse so the stability is lost. Once this is gone, there's no way of getting it back. Every time your pet takes a bite, they feel the teeth wobbling around, this can be painful so generally they try to avoid it.   Secondly, the chronic infection and inflammation is bad for the rest of the body. Constantly having to fight the bacteria is hard on the organs, especially liver and kidneys. We often see that these animals have elevated blood values, especially if left untreated for a long period or time.  We also know that the bacteria in the gums often end up in the blood stream (at least in humans, there's ongoing research to prove this in animals). These bacteria can end up in very important organs such as the heart, giving an increased risk of heart valve infections etc.   It's great that your dog can now recover and hopefully spend a good few years without problems again, and great that you obviously just want the best for your dog. It's likely that she will need more teeth removed in the coming years, this is very common in small breeds. To keep her mouth as healthy as possible, the best thing you can do is brush her teeth daily (once she's recovered from her dental and your vet has given you the all clear to start).","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s common but generally the vet will discuss it with you before the extraction.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22145.0,"score_ratio":2.6857142857}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu82vrd","c_root_id_B":"iu7s1gu","created_at_utc_A":1667030180,"created_at_utc_B":1667021058,"score_A":94,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Agree with the above, and would like to include why it's great your vet did this (even though I'm not a fan of extracting without telling an owner, and especially without explaining why, so the communication around it definitely could've been better!).  Loose teeth hurt. Most animals don't show this well as it's a gradual process. Often it starts with dental plaque, the bacteria start eating away at the gums and the ligaments around the tooth. This gets worse and worse so the stability is lost. Once this is gone, there's no way of getting it back. Every time your pet takes a bite, they feel the teeth wobbling around, this can be painful so generally they try to avoid it.   Secondly, the chronic infection and inflammation is bad for the rest of the body. Constantly having to fight the bacteria is hard on the organs, especially liver and kidneys. We often see that these animals have elevated blood values, especially if left untreated for a long period or time.  We also know that the bacteria in the gums often end up in the blood stream (at least in humans, there's ongoing research to prove this in animals). These bacteria can end up in very important organs such as the heart, giving an increased risk of heart valve infections etc.   It's great that your dog can now recover and hopefully spend a good few years without problems again, and great that you obviously just want the best for your dog. It's likely that she will need more teeth removed in the coming years, this is very common in small breeds. To keep her mouth as healthy as possible, the best thing you can do is brush her teeth daily (once she's recovered from her dental and your vet has given you the all clear to start).","human_ref_B":"I am genuinely curious, would you think it was no big deal to personally have teeth that are \"a little bit loose\"? If you had loose teeth in your mouth, would you go to see your dental hygienist and ask to have them scaled and polished, nothing more?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9122.0,"score_ratio":4.2727272727}
{"post_id":"yg5gws","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Normal to extract teeth during a cleaning? About 6 months ago I scheduled a teeth cleaning for my dog (8 year old, 25lb poodle mix) simply because I noticed her breath was a little sour, nothing horrendous. Today was the actual cleaning appointment. I called at the requested time and they said she did great and can pick her up in an hour. Got to the vet to pick her up and was informed they extracted 5 teeth!! They never mentioned this was even as a possibility nor did they call asking if it was okay.   When asked why they removed the teeth the reason given was \u201cbecause they were a little loose\u201d. Said that can cause pain in them and they need to come out when loose. My dog has never had trouble eating food, just yesterday she was happily chomping on a hard bone not causing any concern or pain.   I am now looking online and nowhere do I see extraction is necessary because of a loose tooth. Can any vet comment on whether or not this is normal?","c_root_id_A":"iu75s6o","c_root_id_B":"iu75mj0","created_at_utc_A":1667008114,"created_at_utc_B":1667008035,"score_A":70,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Extremely normal.  8y smaller breed dog - I am surprised there weren't more that needed to come out; however, they definitely should have told you of the possibility ahead of time.  Was it in your estimate for the procedure?","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s common but generally the vet will discuss it with you before the extraction.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":79.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iksskov","c_root_id_B":"iksnjf5","created_at_utc_A":1660832778,"created_at_utc_B":1660830732,"score_A":88,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"Wake your mom up and ask her now. This is not something that can wait.","human_ref_B":"Waiting may result in a more expensive visit and\/or the death of your cat. Take him in right away.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2046.0,"score_ratio":1.2394366197}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"ikswzpp","c_root_id_B":"ikt150v","created_at_utc_A":1660834521,"created_at_utc_B":1660836184,"score_A":3,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","human_ref_B":"CareCredit credit card nowwwwwwwwwwe","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1663.0,"score_ratio":12.6666666667}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iktd6b3","c_root_id_B":"ikt91bh","created_at_utc_A":1660840944,"created_at_utc_B":1660839336,"score_A":34,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Definitely see a vet ASAP, I have used Care Credit before to help with emergency vet finances. The brand Farmina N&D sells a wet and dry food for urinary issues.","human_ref_B":"Yes you are absolutely risking his life unfortunately. This issue can turn fatal very quickly. Please look around for a different vet or apply for care credit.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1608.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iktd6b3","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660840944,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":34,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Definitely see a vet ASAP, I have used Care Credit before to help with emergency vet finances. The brand Farmina N&D sells a wet and dry food for urinary issues.","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6423.0,"score_ratio":11.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"ikte2db","c_root_id_B":"ikt91bh","created_at_utc_A":1660841293,"created_at_utc_B":1660839336,"score_A":21,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Your cat could die without emergent treatment, please take him as soon as possible.","human_ref_B":"Yes you are absolutely risking his life unfortunately. This issue can turn fatal very quickly. Please look around for a different vet or apply for care credit.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1957.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"ikswzpp","c_root_id_B":"ikte2db","created_at_utc_A":1660834521,"created_at_utc_B":1660841293,"score_A":3,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","human_ref_B":"Your cat could die without emergent treatment, please take him as soon as possible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6772.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"ikt91bh","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660839336,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":18,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes you are absolutely risking his life unfortunately. This issue can turn fatal very quickly. Please look around for a different vet or apply for care credit.","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4815.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iktg5r6","c_root_id_B":"ikth7l9","created_at_utc_A":1660842096,"created_at_utc_B":1660842508,"score_A":9,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Yes, you\u2019re risking his life. Call around and drive.","human_ref_B":"All of us are probably thinking the same likely thing is happening for your male cat that is straining to urinate and its really not good. You need your cat to go to the vet right now or it could be really really bad. Wake your mom up, or even just show up at the vet and see if you can sort something out. Your cat could die if you wait till morning if it's what I'm thinking.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":412.0,"score_ratio":1.7777777778}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"ikth7l9","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660842508,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":16,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"All of us are probably thinking the same likely thing is happening for your male cat that is straining to urinate and its really not good. You need your cat to go to the vet right now or it could be really really bad. Wake your mom up, or even just show up at the vet and see if you can sort something out. Your cat could die if you wait till morning if it's what I'm thinking.","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7987.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iktg5r6","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660842096,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":9,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes, you\u2019re risking his life. Call around and drive.","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7575.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iktsqxr","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660847014,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, if you are in the US care credit is a great option. Had a roommate who\u2019s dog got hurt, he took him to the vet but didn\u2019t have a ton of disposable income at the time. He literally applied for care credit as he was in the waiting room and was approved and used it by the time he left. It has really low\/or no interest rate I believe","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12493.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iku2aqq","c_root_id_B":"ikswzpp","created_at_utc_A":1660850679,"created_at_utc_B":1660834521,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is extremely painful and life threatening. Wake your mom up!!","human_ref_B":"Is there an MSPCA near you? They\u2019re usually like $350 for ER","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16158.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wrbi0g","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can\u2019t take my cat to the ER vet right now because they require $750 up front to even see him. What can I do? I\u2019m pretty sure my cat has a UTI or some sort of blockage. He\u2019s acting very withdrawn, aggressive when I try to pet him which is absolutely not normal. I watched him try to try to use the box 3 times in the last hour; first two times nothing came out when he strained, third time he made sort of a howling noise when he was going and only a tiny bit of urine came out. No blood that I could see. I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s in pain. Called the ER vet near me and they said they can only begin treatment on him if I pay $750 up front. I can\u2019t do that at the moment, I\u2019d have to wait until morning when my mother is awake and she can go with me and help pay for it. Am I risking his life by having to wait till morning? Right now he\u2019s laying down in a corner quietly. I\u2019m super worried and don\u2019t want to be making a huge mistake by having to wait to take him. :\/","c_root_id_A":"iku2aqq","c_root_id_B":"iktss68","created_at_utc_A":1660850679,"created_at_utc_B":1660847027,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This is extremely painful and life threatening. Wake your mom up!!","human_ref_B":"Tell them the situation, they\u2019ll probably be able to help stabilize him and get him out of danger before you can pay for it. This is something that 100% can kill cats, you need to get him seen sooner rather than later.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3652.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"jnf8u3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat abdomen after shotgun injury (X-rays) \\* Species: Cat  \\* Age: 1-4 (He's seen some shit, so it's difficult to tell)  \\* Sex\/Neuter status: Male, neutered  \\* Breed: Presumed norwegian forest cat  \\* Body weight: 3.4 kg (malnourished at the time)  \\* History: Found starving with 27 shotgun pellets inside him. 10 pellets removed, 17 still there. Adopted 3 months ago and spoiled rotten ever since. However, i'm a little worried about his abdomen after recently seeing his pre-adoption x-rays. Aside from the pellets, is everything looking good in the x-rays? Probably stress related, but he must have been extremely constipated at the shelter. The first week after i got him, he pooped so much that i had to clean his litter box 3 times a day.   \\* Clinical signs: Large variations in abdomen size on a daily basis. Shotgun pellets throughout his body, but mostly located in his hips\/hind legs. Zero tolerance for belly rubs :(  \\* Duration: Several months.  \\* Your general location: Denmark  &#x200B;  He can run and loves playing rough. I'm just wondering if his abdomen is fine, or if i should get it checked out. Thanks in advance!  &#x200B;  X-rays: https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/e0eac2R","c_root_id_A":"gb1r0yt","c_root_id_B":"gb2808h","created_at_utc_A":1604439649,"created_at_utc_B":1604448413,"score_A":8,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Do you have bloodwork for him?","human_ref_B":"There is really decreased serosal detail in the abdomen. If they used \"abdomen\" settings on the x-ray algorithm then these x-rays look abnormal. The usual cause for this is either fluid in the abdomen, or lack of fatty tissue. If he is doing well otherwise, then dont get hung up on the x-rays. The clinical presentation is what matters. Happy cat is happy cat, no matter the x ray  Edit: honestly, i'd like to get new x-rays. I cant even see the liver.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8764.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"vr915u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My neutered male cat went to the litter box to pee 6 times in the last half hour: Is this an emergency or can it wait a couple days? Species: Cat Age: 1.5 years Sex\/Neuter status: male neutered Breed: DSH Body weight: 10lbs History: healthy   Just got back from a weeklong vacation, we left 4 litter boxes out for our 3 cats but they obviously got quite dirty while we were gone, I believe my sister only stopped in to clean them once. This morning one of my cats is peeing super often. He otherwise is acting like his usual self. Its 4th of July here in America and regular vets offices are closed.   My question is: Can this wait until I can get him to a vet appointment this week, or is this concerning enough that I should take him to the emergency vet today? That would be way more expensive but of course I would do it if necessary.","c_root_id_A":"ietr3fy","c_root_id_B":"ietv8oz","created_at_utc_A":1656947508,"created_at_utc_B":1656949270,"score_A":11,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"ER, ASAP","human_ref_B":"Urinary blockage can cause death quickly. This is a vet visit now, not later when it\u2019s more convenient.   Also, urinary problems are more likely to be caused by dehydration. Cats don\u2019t want to drink bad-tasting water. There should be water in multiple places for them, changed daily, with clean glass, ceramic, or stainless steel bowls. Like with food, no plastic bowls for cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1762.0,"score_ratio":1.0909090909}
{"post_id":"vr915u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My neutered male cat went to the litter box to pee 6 times in the last half hour: Is this an emergency or can it wait a couple days? Species: Cat Age: 1.5 years Sex\/Neuter status: male neutered Breed: DSH Body weight: 10lbs History: healthy   Just got back from a weeklong vacation, we left 4 litter boxes out for our 3 cats but they obviously got quite dirty while we were gone, I believe my sister only stopped in to clean them once. This morning one of my cats is peeing super often. He otherwise is acting like his usual self. Its 4th of July here in America and regular vets offices are closed.   My question is: Can this wait until I can get him to a vet appointment this week, or is this concerning enough that I should take him to the emergency vet today? That would be way more expensive but of course I would do it if necessary.","c_root_id_A":"ietq3fp","c_root_id_B":"ietv8oz","created_at_utc_A":1656947083,"created_at_utc_B":1656949270,"score_A":6,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Definitely not a wait and see. Evet asap.","human_ref_B":"Urinary blockage can cause death quickly. This is a vet visit now, not later when it\u2019s more convenient.   Also, urinary problems are more likely to be caused by dehydration. Cats don\u2019t want to drink bad-tasting water. There should be water in multiple places for them, changed daily, with clean glass, ceramic, or stainless steel bowls. Like with food, no plastic bowls for cats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2187.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"vr915u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My neutered male cat went to the litter box to pee 6 times in the last half hour: Is this an emergency or can it wait a couple days? Species: Cat Age: 1.5 years Sex\/Neuter status: male neutered Breed: DSH Body weight: 10lbs History: healthy   Just got back from a weeklong vacation, we left 4 litter boxes out for our 3 cats but they obviously got quite dirty while we were gone, I believe my sister only stopped in to clean them once. This morning one of my cats is peeing super often. He otherwise is acting like his usual self. Its 4th of July here in America and regular vets offices are closed.   My question is: Can this wait until I can get him to a vet appointment this week, or is this concerning enough that I should take him to the emergency vet today? That would be way more expensive but of course I would do it if necessary.","c_root_id_A":"ietr3fy","c_root_id_B":"ietq3fp","created_at_utc_A":1656947508,"created_at_utc_B":1656947083,"score_A":11,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"ER, ASAP","human_ref_B":"Definitely not a wait and see. Evet asap.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":425.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"vr915u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My neutered male cat went to the litter box to pee 6 times in the last half hour: Is this an emergency or can it wait a couple days? Species: Cat Age: 1.5 years Sex\/Neuter status: male neutered Breed: DSH Body weight: 10lbs History: healthy   Just got back from a weeklong vacation, we left 4 litter boxes out for our 3 cats but they obviously got quite dirty while we were gone, I believe my sister only stopped in to clean them once. This morning one of my cats is peeing super often. He otherwise is acting like his usual self. Its 4th of July here in America and regular vets offices are closed.   My question is: Can this wait until I can get him to a vet appointment this week, or is this concerning enough that I should take him to the emergency vet today? That would be way more expensive but of course I would do it if necessary.","c_root_id_A":"ieufwqa","c_root_id_B":"ietq3fp","created_at_utc_A":1656957911,"created_at_utc_B":1656947083,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Your cat sitter needs to stop in and clean the box more than once a week, that\u2019s terrible. I agree, ER vet now to check for urinary blockage","human_ref_B":"Definitely not a wait and see. Evet asap.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10828.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"vr915u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My neutered male cat went to the litter box to pee 6 times in the last half hour: Is this an emergency or can it wait a couple days? Species: Cat Age: 1.5 years Sex\/Neuter status: male neutered Breed: DSH Body weight: 10lbs History: healthy   Just got back from a weeklong vacation, we left 4 litter boxes out for our 3 cats but they obviously got quite dirty while we were gone, I believe my sister only stopped in to clean them once. This morning one of my cats is peeing super often. He otherwise is acting like his usual self. Its 4th of July here in America and regular vets offices are closed.   My question is: Can this wait until I can get him to a vet appointment this week, or is this concerning enough that I should take him to the emergency vet today? That would be way more expensive but of course I would do it if necessary.","c_root_id_A":"ieunzhf","c_root_id_B":"ieuxzzh","created_at_utc_A":1656961365,"created_at_utc_B":1656965714,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If the cats pacing and yowling or acting uncomfortable, it's an emergency.","human_ref_B":"Can you tell if your your cat is actually producing urine during each litterbox visit? Is he spending a long time in the litterbox, or does he appear to be struggling to urinate?  Have their been any other noticeable changes, such as loss of appetite?  If he is not producing urine or producing a smaller amount than normal, that is definitely an emergency - and male cats are more prone to urinary problems than female cats.   On the plus side, if he does have a blockage or partial blockage as some other commenters have suggested, the sooner you get him to a vet, the less it may cost to treat him. For example, your vet may be able to correct a partial blockage during the visit by flushing his system with fluids. Whereas a complete blockage could require hospitalization.   For the potential cost saving alone, it is worth erring on the side of caution and taking him to an emergency vet immediately.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4349.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uhl2b0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So I'm not sure that the previous owners of this puppy actually gave it a shots. what would happen if I gave it another dose of the ones that you can get from a place like tractor supply to do yourself? The people were a little bit shady and I think they just told me that they gave the dog a shots to get me to buy him so I want to see if it will be an issue for me to give him an extra set. Or it might be his first set... I just don't want to make him sick if he did happen to already have a set of shots.","c_root_id_A":"i780p0u","c_root_id_B":"i77mfab","created_at_utc_A":1651619347,"created_at_utc_B":1651613102,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"You can get their titer done at the vet, but the tractor supplies I know only have deworming medicine at best. Not really sure how they would have legit vaccines, unless a vet comes to visit.","human_ref_B":"Brit here \ud83d\ude4b\ud83c\udffb what is Tractor Supply?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6245.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"uhl2b0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So I'm not sure that the previous owners of this puppy actually gave it a shots. what would happen if I gave it another dose of the ones that you can get from a place like tractor supply to do yourself? The people were a little bit shady and I think they just told me that they gave the dog a shots to get me to buy him so I want to see if it will be an issue for me to give him an extra set. Or it might be his first set... I just don't want to make him sick if he did happen to already have a set of shots.","c_root_id_A":"i77lq86","c_root_id_B":"i780p0u","created_at_utc_A":1651612806,"created_at_utc_B":1651619347,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"How old is your puppy?","human_ref_B":"You can get their titer done at the vet, but the tractor supplies I know only have deworming medicine at best. Not really sure how they would have legit vaccines, unless a vet comes to visit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6541.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"uhl2b0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"So I'm not sure that the previous owners of this puppy actually gave it a shots. what would happen if I gave it another dose of the ones that you can get from a place like tractor supply to do yourself? The people were a little bit shady and I think they just told me that they gave the dog a shots to get me to buy him so I want to see if it will be an issue for me to give him an extra set. Or it might be his first set... I just don't want to make him sick if he did happen to already have a set of shots.","c_root_id_A":"i77lq86","c_root_id_B":"i77mfab","created_at_utc_A":1651612806,"created_at_utc_B":1651613102,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"How old is your puppy?","human_ref_B":"Brit here \ud83d\ude4b\ud83c\udffb what is Tractor Supply?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":296.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"a6rs97","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups\/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"ebxxf7e","c_root_id_B":"ebxuqjb","created_at_utc_A":1545002067,"created_at_utc_B":1544999871,"score_A":103,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your pup.  I've read through the report and do not see any indication that DCM was present. The gross pathology (examination of the heart) indicates that the heart was of normal size. Generally, with DCM, we see dilation of at least one chamber of the heart, and quite often all 4 chambers. Nothing in the report indicates that DCM was the cause of death.  The morphological diagnoses that they provide indicate the following:  1. There was a lot of fluid in Diego's lungs and this fluid build up was acute (meaning that it happened over a very short period of time). There was a little bit of fluid in Diego's brain, but it was less fluid than what was found in the lungs. They don't know why this sudden fluid build up happened, and they looked at slides of the tissues and it couldn't help them determine a cause. 2. The tonsils had lymphoid hyperplasia, which means that they just had more lymphoid cells than normal. Lymphoid hyperplasia can sometimes indicate an infection (bacteria, virus, so on), but no signs of infection could be found. They don't know why Diego's tonsils had more white blood cells than normal.  The pathologists speculated some possible causes of death, but unfortunately there is really no way for them to prove what happened. I'll try my best to explain those possible causes here:  1. Metabolic derangements: metabolism refers to all of the processes in the body that break down food into energy. Sometimes an animal may become deficient in something that is required for normal metabolism to occur. This can cause them to not get enough energy to all the cells in the body (like the brain, for example) and it can cause sudden death in some cases. There are also some types of metabolic disorders that can be genetic, although it is much more likely that the pathologists would have seen some changes that would help with a diagnosis of a genetic metabolic disease. 2. Electrochemical disturbances: these are disturbances that can cause the cells in the heart or brain to fire their signals at the wrong times. For example, this can lead to an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) . This could also be cause by an imbalance in electrolytes, such as too much or too little sodium or potassium. 3. Hemodynamic disturbances: this refers to changes\/disruptions in blood flow. We often think of blood loss as the major player in this disturbance (but we know from the report that Diego didn't seem to lose a lot of blood very rapidly), but it can be caused by many other things such as shock, thrombi (blood clots), hyperemia (excess blood being sent to an organ), and infarction (obstructed blood flow) just to name a few. Any change that happens too quickly could cause rapid death because an essential organ like the brain or lungs might suddenly not get enough oxygen. 4. Subtle, small thrombi in the brain: this would be tiny little blood clots that could block blood flow to the brain. Even with the best microscopes, you can't always see them.  Unfortunately, we don't always get an answer when we do a post-mortem exam. Again, I'm really sorry for your loss, and I hope I helped clarify a few things from the report.","human_ref_B":"Essentially it sounds like no structural abnormalities of the heart were found on necropsy. However, things like cardiac arrhythmias can occur without causing any identifiable lesions and can result in sudden death. Often an arrhythmia will have an underlying risk factor (e.g. dogs with enlarged atria of the heart are at greater risk of developing fatal arrhythmias) but they can also occur even in otherwise normal dogs. I'm sorry for your unexpected loss. These things are never easy. It sounds like there was nothing underlying that could have been identified with screening diagnostics, so please do not feel guilty or like you should have been able to prevent this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2196.0,"score_ratio":4.4782608696}
{"post_id":"a6rs97","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups\/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"ebxn3nj","c_root_id_B":"ebxxf7e","created_at_utc_A":1544994243,"created_at_utc_B":1545002067,"score_A":21,"score_B":103,"human_ref_A":"I'm new to reddit so I hope I don't inadvertently break a rule.  I'm a retired RN and what I see in the report is that they don't know exactly why your pup died. The significant findings to me are that he had fluid\/swelling  in his brain, lungs, and tonsils, but they don't know the reason for this. They throw out some ideas but basically they don't know the exact reason he had a heart attack.   I am so sorry for your loss. It's always hard when we lose them but your guy was young and his death was sudden. Take care.","human_ref_B":"I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your pup.  I've read through the report and do not see any indication that DCM was present. The gross pathology (examination of the heart) indicates that the heart was of normal size. Generally, with DCM, we see dilation of at least one chamber of the heart, and quite often all 4 chambers. Nothing in the report indicates that DCM was the cause of death.  The morphological diagnoses that they provide indicate the following:  1. There was a lot of fluid in Diego's lungs and this fluid build up was acute (meaning that it happened over a very short period of time). There was a little bit of fluid in Diego's brain, but it was less fluid than what was found in the lungs. They don't know why this sudden fluid build up happened, and they looked at slides of the tissues and it couldn't help them determine a cause. 2. The tonsils had lymphoid hyperplasia, which means that they just had more lymphoid cells than normal. Lymphoid hyperplasia can sometimes indicate an infection (bacteria, virus, so on), but no signs of infection could be found. They don't know why Diego's tonsils had more white blood cells than normal.  The pathologists speculated some possible causes of death, but unfortunately there is really no way for them to prove what happened. I'll try my best to explain those possible causes here:  1. Metabolic derangements: metabolism refers to all of the processes in the body that break down food into energy. Sometimes an animal may become deficient in something that is required for normal metabolism to occur. This can cause them to not get enough energy to all the cells in the body (like the brain, for example) and it can cause sudden death in some cases. There are also some types of metabolic disorders that can be genetic, although it is much more likely that the pathologists would have seen some changes that would help with a diagnosis of a genetic metabolic disease. 2. Electrochemical disturbances: these are disturbances that can cause the cells in the heart or brain to fire their signals at the wrong times. For example, this can lead to an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) . This could also be cause by an imbalance in electrolytes, such as too much or too little sodium or potassium. 3. Hemodynamic disturbances: this refers to changes\/disruptions in blood flow. We often think of blood loss as the major player in this disturbance (but we know from the report that Diego didn't seem to lose a lot of blood very rapidly), but it can be caused by many other things such as shock, thrombi (blood clots), hyperemia (excess blood being sent to an organ), and infarction (obstructed blood flow) just to name a few. Any change that happens too quickly could cause rapid death because an essential organ like the brain or lungs might suddenly not get enough oxygen. 4. Subtle, small thrombi in the brain: this would be tiny little blood clots that could block blood flow to the brain. Even with the best microscopes, you can't always see them.  Unfortunately, we don't always get an answer when we do a post-mortem exam. Again, I'm really sorry for your loss, and I hope I helped clarify a few things from the report.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7824.0,"score_ratio":4.9047619048}
{"post_id":"a6rs97","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups\/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"ebxuqjb","c_root_id_B":"ebxn3nj","created_at_utc_A":1544999871,"created_at_utc_B":1544994243,"score_A":23,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Essentially it sounds like no structural abnormalities of the heart were found on necropsy. However, things like cardiac arrhythmias can occur without causing any identifiable lesions and can result in sudden death. Often an arrhythmia will have an underlying risk factor (e.g. dogs with enlarged atria of the heart are at greater risk of developing fatal arrhythmias) but they can also occur even in otherwise normal dogs. I'm sorry for your unexpected loss. These things are never easy. It sounds like there was nothing underlying that could have been identified with screening diagnostics, so please do not feel guilty or like you should have been able to prevent this.","human_ref_B":"I'm new to reddit so I hope I don't inadvertently break a rule.  I'm a retired RN and what I see in the report is that they don't know exactly why your pup died. The significant findings to me are that he had fluid\/swelling  in his brain, lungs, and tonsils, but they don't know the reason for this. They throw out some ideas but basically they don't know the exact reason he had a heart attack.   I am so sorry for your loss. It's always hard when we lose them but your guy was young and his death was sudden. Take care.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5628.0,"score_ratio":1.0952380952}
{"post_id":"zp6kvf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Dog ate Pain au Raisin! No hydrogen peroxide, should I induce vomiting with baking soda? And can I use coconut water? Hi there, looking for some help as my doggo just ate raisins which she has never done before and I have no idea how she is going to react! She has a history of getting into and eating anything she can get her paws on but has always steered clear of things that are poisonous. She won\u2019t touch chocolate, won\u2019t touch grapes. But I left a pastry with raisins on the counter and she got into it and ate the whole thing. She seems fine cept a clear look of knowing she shouldn\u2019t have eaten it and has a bit of an iron stomach usually but I know how seriously toxic raisins are to dogs and don\u2019t want to chance it.  I\u2019m not too worried yet as she seems perfectly fine but still feel I should do something to get the raisins to come back up, is this the right move?  Secondly, I don\u2019t have hydrogen peroxide and have nowhere around me to pick it up from so I\u2019m guessing my second best option is baking soda but would love some advice here!  And lastly, i\u2019ve only ever had to induce vomiting with her once years ago (local vet told me too after she got into something and I can\u2019t even remember what) and the poor thing was trembling the whole time (I was using a hydrogen peroxide and water mix). In the end she didn\u2019t even end up vomiting so I called the vet, was told to monitor and it was all fine. I think the stress of the situation was what made her keep the bad food down. If I should induce vomiting I would like to do it in a way that will cause the least amount of stress for her. I have coconut water on hand which she loves and will drink in seconds, if I mix this with baking soda do you think that would work?  Sorry for all the questions back to back. She has eaten so much weird stuff over the years and been fine that my vet jokes her gut is made of metal but this one has me worried and my vet is closed so no clue what to do.  Species: Dog Age: 11 Sex\/Neutered status: Female, unspayed, currently in heat (hence her craving for forbidden pastries) Breed: Rat Terrier mix Body Weight: about 12-14lbs but will reweigh as it\u2019s been awhile History: Never any major issues cept getting 9 ticks this year on a camping trip (got on antibiotics and was fine). And a couple UTI\u2019s in her day. Major habit of eating weird things on the street and asking questions later. 9\/10 times I get the misc chicken bone or street fries out of her mouth before she swallows but she\u2019s a ratter and is lighting fast so I\u2019ve taken her to the vet dozens of times and just been told to keep observing her. Clinical Signs: Currently napping, breathing does sound a bit shallow but no signs of distress or sickness. Duration: consumed raisins an hour ago","c_root_id_A":"j0r1guq","c_root_id_B":"j0r3jnk","created_at_utc_A":1671392815,"created_at_utc_B":1671393629,"score_A":7,"score_B":134,"human_ref_A":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Please don't give your dog baking soda.  It doesn't induce vomiting and the sodium can actually put your dog in another emergency situation if you give too much.  You're having an emergency, you need to bring your dog to a vet asap","labels":0,"seconds_difference":814.0,"score_ratio":19.1428571429}
{"post_id":"zp6kvf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Dog ate Pain au Raisin! No hydrogen peroxide, should I induce vomiting with baking soda? And can I use coconut water? Hi there, looking for some help as my doggo just ate raisins which she has never done before and I have no idea how she is going to react! She has a history of getting into and eating anything she can get her paws on but has always steered clear of things that are poisonous. She won\u2019t touch chocolate, won\u2019t touch grapes. But I left a pastry with raisins on the counter and she got into it and ate the whole thing. She seems fine cept a clear look of knowing she shouldn\u2019t have eaten it and has a bit of an iron stomach usually but I know how seriously toxic raisins are to dogs and don\u2019t want to chance it.  I\u2019m not too worried yet as she seems perfectly fine but still feel I should do something to get the raisins to come back up, is this the right move?  Secondly, I don\u2019t have hydrogen peroxide and have nowhere around me to pick it up from so I\u2019m guessing my second best option is baking soda but would love some advice here!  And lastly, i\u2019ve only ever had to induce vomiting with her once years ago (local vet told me too after she got into something and I can\u2019t even remember what) and the poor thing was trembling the whole time (I was using a hydrogen peroxide and water mix). In the end she didn\u2019t even end up vomiting so I called the vet, was told to monitor and it was all fine. I think the stress of the situation was what made her keep the bad food down. If I should induce vomiting I would like to do it in a way that will cause the least amount of stress for her. I have coconut water on hand which she loves and will drink in seconds, if I mix this with baking soda do you think that would work?  Sorry for all the questions back to back. She has eaten so much weird stuff over the years and been fine that my vet jokes her gut is made of metal but this one has me worried and my vet is closed so no clue what to do.  Species: Dog Age: 11 Sex\/Neutered status: Female, unspayed, currently in heat (hence her craving for forbidden pastries) Breed: Rat Terrier mix Body Weight: about 12-14lbs but will reweigh as it\u2019s been awhile History: Never any major issues cept getting 9 ticks this year on a camping trip (got on antibiotics and was fine). And a couple UTI\u2019s in her day. Major habit of eating weird things on the street and asking questions later. 9\/10 times I get the misc chicken bone or street fries out of her mouth before she swallows but she\u2019s a ratter and is lighting fast so I\u2019ve taken her to the vet dozens of times and just been told to keep observing her. Clinical Signs: Currently napping, breathing does sound a bit shallow but no signs of distress or sickness. Duration: consumed raisins an hour ago","c_root_id_A":"j0r4dqu","c_root_id_B":"j0r1guq","created_at_utc_A":1671393958,"created_at_utc_B":1671392815,"score_A":23,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Do not use baking soda. Too much baking soda is toxic in and of itself. Even if she vomits with it, not all of it will come back up. Get her to a vet and ask if they will induce vomiting . We have safer drugs that make them vomit more reliably with fewer risks than doing it yourself. The sooner you get her there, the better.   A call to pet poison control isn\u2019t a bad idea either. They can walk you through the risks.","human_ref_B":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1143.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zp6kvf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Dog ate Pain au Raisin! No hydrogen peroxide, should I induce vomiting with baking soda? And can I use coconut water? Hi there, looking for some help as my doggo just ate raisins which she has never done before and I have no idea how she is going to react! She has a history of getting into and eating anything she can get her paws on but has always steered clear of things that are poisonous. She won\u2019t touch chocolate, won\u2019t touch grapes. But I left a pastry with raisins on the counter and she got into it and ate the whole thing. She seems fine cept a clear look of knowing she shouldn\u2019t have eaten it and has a bit of an iron stomach usually but I know how seriously toxic raisins are to dogs and don\u2019t want to chance it.  I\u2019m not too worried yet as she seems perfectly fine but still feel I should do something to get the raisins to come back up, is this the right move?  Secondly, I don\u2019t have hydrogen peroxide and have nowhere around me to pick it up from so I\u2019m guessing my second best option is baking soda but would love some advice here!  And lastly, i\u2019ve only ever had to induce vomiting with her once years ago (local vet told me too after she got into something and I can\u2019t even remember what) and the poor thing was trembling the whole time (I was using a hydrogen peroxide and water mix). In the end she didn\u2019t even end up vomiting so I called the vet, was told to monitor and it was all fine. I think the stress of the situation was what made her keep the bad food down. If I should induce vomiting I would like to do it in a way that will cause the least amount of stress for her. I have coconut water on hand which she loves and will drink in seconds, if I mix this with baking soda do you think that would work?  Sorry for all the questions back to back. She has eaten so much weird stuff over the years and been fine that my vet jokes her gut is made of metal but this one has me worried and my vet is closed so no clue what to do.  Species: Dog Age: 11 Sex\/Neutered status: Female, unspayed, currently in heat (hence her craving for forbidden pastries) Breed: Rat Terrier mix Body Weight: about 12-14lbs but will reweigh as it\u2019s been awhile History: Never any major issues cept getting 9 ticks this year on a camping trip (got on antibiotics and was fine). And a couple UTI\u2019s in her day. Major habit of eating weird things on the street and asking questions later. 9\/10 times I get the misc chicken bone or street fries out of her mouth before she swallows but she\u2019s a ratter and is lighting fast so I\u2019ve taken her to the vet dozens of times and just been told to keep observing her. Clinical Signs: Currently napping, breathing does sound a bit shallow but no signs of distress or sickness. Duration: consumed raisins an hour ago","c_root_id_A":"j0r1guq","c_root_id_B":"j0s06ym","created_at_utc_A":1671392815,"created_at_utc_B":1671407147,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Hi, I see you\u2019re in the UK. Out of hours if you call your local vet office they\u2019ll direct you on how to access assistance. Most run a service-mine has a vet on call 24\/7  Also if you have pet insurance most of them now offer 24\/7 video\/phone calls with vets. Unfortunately had to use that recently and it was really helpful  I got caught out once where my locals emergency vet practice was bloody miles away-learned to check that whenever I moved and registered with a new one  There is always accessible, out of hours vet care here. I hope you\u2019re sorted and pup is doing great","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14332.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j21zrpg","c_root_id_B":"j22au7h","created_at_utc_A":1672279108,"created_at_utc_B":1672284101,"score_A":30,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"Go to the doctor","human_ref_B":"Hi, I work in a vet clinic in a shelter. I work with stray cats on a daily basis. Ideally, when bit by a cat you always go in! Cats mouths are extremely dirty and their bites can easily get infected. Most doctors will have you start an antibiotic because of this. You do NOT want to take chances with potentially non-vaccinated animals. Only 14 people have ever survived rabies and I don\u2019t recommend waiting till you show symptoms. It\u2019s better to be safe.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4993.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22au7h","c_root_id_B":"j228uoq","created_at_utc_A":1672284101,"created_at_utc_B":1672283172,"score_A":39,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Hi, I work in a vet clinic in a shelter. I work with stray cats on a daily basis. Ideally, when bit by a cat you always go in! Cats mouths are extremely dirty and their bites can easily get infected. Most doctors will have you start an antibiotic because of this. You do NOT want to take chances with potentially non-vaccinated animals. Only 14 people have ever survived rabies and I don\u2019t recommend waiting till you show symptoms. It\u2019s better to be safe.","human_ref_B":"Hi! Not a vet, just my advice. Even though the bite itself was not severe, I would recommend going to get a tetanus shot and asking the nurse if a series rabies shots is necessary. Rabies, afaik, cannot be treated once developed so I know it is recommended to be extra careful with it. Additionally, cat mouths are very dirty and I\u2019ve been told by animal shelter workers that most cat bites get infected. Good luck! Don\u2019t worry too much - just talk to a nurse. They can help you out with making sure rabies and tetanus are prevented!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":929.0,"score_ratio":1.3928571429}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22au7h","c_root_id_B":"j225hcx","created_at_utc_A":1672284101,"created_at_utc_B":1672281656,"score_A":39,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Hi, I work in a vet clinic in a shelter. I work with stray cats on a daily basis. Ideally, when bit by a cat you always go in! Cats mouths are extremely dirty and their bites can easily get infected. Most doctors will have you start an antibiotic because of this. You do NOT want to take chances with potentially non-vaccinated animals. Only 14 people have ever survived rabies and I don\u2019t recommend waiting till you show symptoms. It\u2019s better to be safe.","human_ref_B":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2445.0,"score_ratio":9.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j221olv","c_root_id_B":"j22au7h","created_at_utc_A":1672279950,"created_at_utc_B":1672284101,"score_A":4,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","human_ref_B":"Hi, I work in a vet clinic in a shelter. I work with stray cats on a daily basis. Ideally, when bit by a cat you always go in! Cats mouths are extremely dirty and their bites can easily get infected. Most doctors will have you start an antibiotic because of this. You do NOT want to take chances with potentially non-vaccinated animals. Only 14 people have ever survived rabies and I don\u2019t recommend waiting till you show symptoms. It\u2019s better to be safe.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4151.0,"score_ratio":9.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j225hcx","c_root_id_B":"j228uoq","created_at_utc_A":1672281656,"created_at_utc_B":1672283172,"score_A":4,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","human_ref_B":"Hi! Not a vet, just my advice. Even though the bite itself was not severe, I would recommend going to get a tetanus shot and asking the nurse if a series rabies shots is necessary. Rabies, afaik, cannot be treated once developed so I know it is recommended to be extra careful with it. Additionally, cat mouths are very dirty and I\u2019ve been told by animal shelter workers that most cat bites get infected. Good luck! Don\u2019t worry too much - just talk to a nurse. They can help you out with making sure rabies and tetanus are prevented!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1516.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j221olv","c_root_id_B":"j228uoq","created_at_utc_A":1672279950,"created_at_utc_B":1672283172,"score_A":4,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","human_ref_B":"Hi! Not a vet, just my advice. Even though the bite itself was not severe, I would recommend going to get a tetanus shot and asking the nurse if a series rabies shots is necessary. Rabies, afaik, cannot be treated once developed so I know it is recommended to be extra careful with it. Additionally, cat mouths are very dirty and I\u2019ve been told by animal shelter workers that most cat bites get infected. Good luck! Don\u2019t worry too much - just talk to a nurse. They can help you out with making sure rabies and tetanus are prevented!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3222.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22fqw2","c_root_id_B":"j225hcx","created_at_utc_A":1672286480,"created_at_utc_B":1672281656,"score_A":23,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Yes. Go to urgent care or your doctor and get antibiotics. Cat bites carry nasty infections. Also, though the chance is small it would happen, you\u2019ll want rabies and tetanus vaccinations. Not a fun way to go out.  If he punctured your skin, that is. If not, I wouldn\u2019t worry about any of this.","human_ref_B":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4824.0,"score_ratio":5.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22fqw2","c_root_id_B":"j221olv","created_at_utc_A":1672286480,"created_at_utc_B":1672279950,"score_A":23,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Yes. Go to urgent care or your doctor and get antibiotics. Cat bites carry nasty infections. Also, though the chance is small it would happen, you\u2019ll want rabies and tetanus vaccinations. Not a fun way to go out.  If he punctured your skin, that is. If not, I wouldn\u2019t worry about any of this.","human_ref_B":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6530.0,"score_ratio":5.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j23bzbt","c_root_id_B":"j22kn8y","created_at_utc_A":1672308404,"created_at_utc_B":1672288964,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"It didn't bleed so there is no concern.","human_ref_B":"Did it break the skin?  You said it didn\u2019t bleed and was a soft bite that didn\u2019t leave a mark?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19440.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j23bzbt","c_root_id_B":"j225hcx","created_at_utc_A":1672308404,"created_at_utc_B":1672281656,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It didn't bleed so there is no concern.","human_ref_B":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26748.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j23bzbt","c_root_id_B":"j22gb2i","created_at_utc_A":1672308404,"created_at_utc_B":1672286761,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It didn't bleed so there is no concern.","human_ref_B":"Either go to the ER or make an appt with your PCP yesterday. You have no idea what diseases the cat might have. No, your life is likely not in danger, but getting an untreated infection could still be very unpleasant. You don't mess around with wild animal bites.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21643.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j23bzbt","c_root_id_B":"j221olv","created_at_utc_A":1672308404,"created_at_utc_B":1672279950,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It didn't bleed so there is no concern.","human_ref_B":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28454.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j23bzbt","c_root_id_B":"j22mfe0","created_at_utc_A":1672308404,"created_at_utc_B":1672289917,"score_A":9,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It didn't bleed so there is no concern.","human_ref_B":"This happened to me before but with a scratch, (i got too close to a moms kitten) if you can\u2019t go to the doctor, look at your regions rabies cases. Im in US & my county had all rabies cases posted by animal for the past like 50 years. My region was unlikely cuz cats didn\u2019t have rabies in that region in decades, so i didnt get a rabies shot. It\u2019s unlikely you have rabies if it didnt break skin, but if in youre region its common then get checked out.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18487.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j225hcx","c_root_id_B":"j22kn8y","created_at_utc_A":1672281656,"created_at_utc_B":1672288964,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","human_ref_B":"Did it break the skin?  You said it didn\u2019t bleed and was a soft bite that didn\u2019t leave a mark?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7308.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22gb2i","c_root_id_B":"j22kn8y","created_at_utc_A":1672286761,"created_at_utc_B":1672288964,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Either go to the ER or make an appt with your PCP yesterday. You have no idea what diseases the cat might have. No, your life is likely not in danger, but getting an untreated infection could still be very unpleasant. You don't mess around with wild animal bites.","human_ref_B":"Did it break the skin?  You said it didn\u2019t bleed and was a soft bite that didn\u2019t leave a mark?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2203.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22kn8y","c_root_id_B":"j221olv","created_at_utc_A":1672288964,"created_at_utc_B":1672279950,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Did it break the skin?  You said it didn\u2019t bleed and was a soft bite that didn\u2019t leave a mark?","human_ref_B":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9014.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j225hcx","c_root_id_B":"j22gb2i","created_at_utc_A":1672281656,"created_at_utc_B":1672286761,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'd get a rabies shot asap","human_ref_B":"Either go to the ER or make an appt with your PCP yesterday. You have no idea what diseases the cat might have. No, your life is likely not in danger, but getting an untreated infection could still be very unpleasant. You don't mess around with wild animal bites.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5105.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"zxrcpq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"A stray cat just bit me, should I be worried? Pretty much the tittle. A stray cat approached me while I was eating with some friends, so I decided to pet him. Turns out he didn't like it even tough he was the one that straight up decided to rest by my feet, as he bite me once while the pets and scratches, after meowing once...  It was a soft bite, I didn't bleed and it didn't even leave a mark. After that the cat stood still in the spot and I went to wash the area of the bite after 5-10 mins. I know it maybe isn't much but I'm kinda worried (yeah I'm not petting any stray cats ever again) but I wanna know if I should be worried. Thanks in advance  &#x200B;  * **Species: Common european** * **Age: ???** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Male**  Sadly, that's all I know","c_root_id_A":"j22gb2i","c_root_id_B":"j221olv","created_at_utc_A":1672286761,"created_at_utc_B":1672279950,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Either go to the ER or make an appt with your PCP yesterday. You have no idea what diseases the cat might have. No, your life is likely not in danger, but getting an untreated infection could still be very unpleasant. You don't mess around with wild animal bites.","human_ref_B":"It would be better if you went to the hospital to just get it seen since it is a stray does it hurt is it swollen ?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6811.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"yad8dr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"It\u2019s midnight where I am should I take my cat to the vet or in the morning. My cat just came home, he\u2019s a mostly outdoor barn cat. He came up to the house and wants to sleep inside tonight. He came in limping his front paw and shoulder seem messed up\/swollen. He seems lethargic and tired, I put him down on the couch and he just laid down and fell right asleep. He let me handle him and he isn\u2019t crying I\u2019ve been petting him and he\u2019s not crying or hissing but he\u2019s sleepy and seems messed up almost loopy. I fostered him when he was a kitten and I\u2019ve never seen him like this he\u2019s always active and talkative. Were in the midwest  in a rural area he could\u2019ve gotten into anything. I\u2019m 16 and it\u2019s midnight should I wake my mom up?? Or do you think it can wait until morning.","c_root_id_A":"itao1sg","c_root_id_B":"itasxjp","created_at_utc_A":1666413210,"created_at_utc_B":1666416569,"score_A":14,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Hi! Not a vet, just have too many cats, but recommend you have mom take a look too. If he lets you pet his belly normally, maybe you can also assess for any other signs of injury by checking the belly and body out. Usually in these cases with the way you\u2019ve described his state, especially as he has access to outdoors, would get him seen by a vet as soon as you can. My thought is it\u2019s better to be safe :). Wishing you all the best!","human_ref_B":"Take him to the vet. (I\u2019m a veterinary nurse)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3359.0,"score_ratio":2.2142857143}
{"post_id":"yad8dr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"It\u2019s midnight where I am should I take my cat to the vet or in the morning. My cat just came home, he\u2019s a mostly outdoor barn cat. He came up to the house and wants to sleep inside tonight. He came in limping his front paw and shoulder seem messed up\/swollen. He seems lethargic and tired, I put him down on the couch and he just laid down and fell right asleep. He let me handle him and he isn\u2019t crying I\u2019ve been petting him and he\u2019s not crying or hissing but he\u2019s sleepy and seems messed up almost loopy. I fostered him when he was a kitten and I\u2019ve never seen him like this he\u2019s always active and talkative. Were in the midwest  in a rural area he could\u2019ve gotten into anything. I\u2019m 16 and it\u2019s midnight should I wake my mom up?? Or do you think it can wait until morning.","c_root_id_A":"itas9hk","c_root_id_B":"itasxjp","created_at_utc_A":1666416090,"created_at_utc_B":1666416569,"score_A":13,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet - wake mom up and have her assess! I would take him in if he was my own.","human_ref_B":"Take him to the vet. (I\u2019m a veterinary nurse)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":479.0,"score_ratio":2.3846153846}
{"post_id":"z59an2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms. Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms.","c_root_id_A":"ixur5de","c_root_id_B":"ixutdlf","created_at_utc_A":1669474928,"created_at_utc_B":1669476024,"score_A":2,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"it will really depend on the type of tapeworm. Do you know what kind your cat was diagnosed with?","human_ref_B":"By far the most type of tapeworm in cats, transmitted by fleas, is not transmissible to people","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1096.0,"score_ratio":12.5}
{"post_id":"z59an2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms. Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms.","c_root_id_A":"ixur5de","c_root_id_B":"ixv0jwt","created_at_utc_A":1669474928,"created_at_utc_B":1669479387,"score_A":2,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"it will really depend on the type of tapeworm. Do you know what kind your cat was diagnosed with?","human_ref_B":"The most common feline tapeworm could theoretically be transfered by you swallowing an infected flea, but it's highly unlikely.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4459.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"z59an2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms. Please help. My kitten has tapeworms and I\u2019ve heard from one vet that humans can\u2019t get tapeworms from cats and the other vet said that humans can get tapeworms from cats. Ive been giving him kisses on the head and face and snuggling him\u2026\u2026 obviously stopped once I found out he has tapeworms.","c_root_id_A":"ixw8nbd","c_root_id_B":"ixur5de","created_at_utc_A":1669498328,"created_at_utc_B":1669474928,"score_A":15,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Tapeworms are transmitted by fleas in an intermediate stage or larval stage. Unless you swallow a flea, you aren\u2019t at risk for tapeworms. Now, this could theoretically happen, say when you\u2019re asleep and your kitten is next to you with so many fleas on her, they\u2019re jumping to you and the bedding and anything warm and moving nearby. Has she been treated for fleas? What did you use? What dewormer did your vet use to treat the tapeworm infestation?","human_ref_B":"it will really depend on the type of tapeworm. Do you know what kind your cat was diagnosed with?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23400.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"vyabg7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"The cat I take care of has to have his teeth removed, how long it takes to recover? He\u2019s a stray cat and I can\u2019t take him inside so I\u2019m worried about his recovery. The stray cat (Milo) take care of has feline calicivirus, I pay for his injections every 4-6 weeks right now, yesterday I went to the vet because he was obviously in pain so it was time to go again, the vet has seen that he has an abscess in his mouth, he told me we needed to do the surgery asap so we scheduled it for Monday. The issue is that he\u2019s a stray and my situation doesn\u2019t allow me to take him inside so I\u2019m quite worried for post surgery to let him outside, the vet will only keep him overnight if he need infusion so I don\u2019t know. Will he be okay to be let alone outside after the surgery?","c_root_id_A":"ig1c25q","c_root_id_B":"ig13jg3","created_at_utc_A":1657743307,"created_at_utc_B":1657740004,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Firstly, on behalf of that cat: thank you for your care and kindness and generosity.   Secondly, are there maybe neighbours you could ask? Or could you provide s secure warm box for the cat to sleep in outside? Is there a animal charity anywhere close by? Could you try Facebook or something local to find someone who could host the cat for a few days?","human_ref_B":"Do you have a big crate?  How about a balcony?  Keep him as long as you can.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3303.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"z85inm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"I found this little guy at my doorstep, how can I help it? https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/1qt7amggrz2a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ec7760108346a0dccd3695d8f936b26522ecf2a5  It's heavy breathing, curled up like the picture, and it won't eat or drink anything, I'm trying to force its beak into water and it seems like it drank a little but then kept refusing. Should I warm it? What else can I do to improve their chances?  Sorry if this is not the appropriate place to ask! I tried to call local vets and they are all closed.","c_root_id_A":"iyadh4k","c_root_id_B":"iyahsil","created_at_utc_A":1669762197,"created_at_utc_B":1669764037,"score_A":12,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Bird rehabilitation center\/wildlife refuge. I hope your birdie makes it. \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc\ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc\ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc","human_ref_B":"Not a diagnosis (!) just want to mention bird flu is going around right now so be careful just in case. They say you shouldn\u2019t be handling wild birds due to this!  \u201cIn a 3 November announcement about the ongoing outbreak, the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said that while the risk to the general public remains low, it is advising Americans to take \"preventative measures\" - such as avoiding direct contact with wild birds and avoiding unprotected contact with poultry - to prevent spreading the disease to humans, pets, birds and other animals. \"This applies not just to workplace or wildlife settings, but potentially to household settings where people have backyard flocks or pet birds with potential exposures to wild or domestic infected birds,\" the statement added.\u201d  https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-us-canada-63785067","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1840.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"z85inm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"I found this little guy at my doorstep, how can I help it? https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/1qt7amggrz2a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ec7760108346a0dccd3695d8f936b26522ecf2a5  It's heavy breathing, curled up like the picture, and it won't eat or drink anything, I'm trying to force its beak into water and it seems like it drank a little but then kept refusing. Should I warm it? What else can I do to improve their chances?  Sorry if this is not the appropriate place to ask! I tried to call local vets and they are all closed.","c_root_id_A":"iyamgnw","c_root_id_B":"iychs4w","created_at_utc_A":1669766060,"created_at_utc_B":1669807016,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Call a rehabbers.","human_ref_B":"I found a pigeon once in New York that needed help.  I too thought no one will help bc they are everywhere. I was suprised to find groups and rescues dedicated to helping them. If you have wildlife rescuers near you don't discount I ended up leaving the bird with them and they did a whole rehabilitation and integration back into a flock.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":40956.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yza6ic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"fat diabetic cat on a diet won\u2019t stop meowing for food at the asscrack of dawn before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop. i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8) but i\u2019m really tired of being woken up at 5:00-6 to him constantly scratching my door and meowing and waking the whole house up. i have a little brother (he is 2) and this affects him, along with my parents who are equally fed up. i am responsible for feeding and giving shots, though, so i get the grunt of the annoyances. i love this cat but GOD DAMN is he high maintenance and annoying.","c_root_id_A":"iwz1nu3","c_root_id_B":"iwzbva5","created_at_utc_A":1668865129,"created_at_utc_B":1668870478,"score_A":14,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Has this been a recent change in his feeding schedule?","human_ref_B":"My diabetic cat does the same thing. He\u2019s 13 and was used to having access to food 24\/7. It\u2019s hard for them to adjust to a new schedule and the recent time change didn\u2019t help. Also, diabetic cats get really hungry and thirsty. Poor babies! they don\u2019t understand that we are helping them, they just know they want to eat!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5349.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"yza6ic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"fat diabetic cat on a diet won\u2019t stop meowing for food at the asscrack of dawn before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop. i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8) but i\u2019m really tired of being woken up at 5:00-6 to him constantly scratching my door and meowing and waking the whole house up. i have a little brother (he is 2) and this affects him, along with my parents who are equally fed up. i am responsible for feeding and giving shots, though, so i get the grunt of the annoyances. i love this cat but GOD DAMN is he high maintenance and annoying.","c_root_id_A":"iwz1nu3","c_root_id_B":"iwzpxim","created_at_utc_A":1668865129,"created_at_utc_B":1668876766,"score_A":14,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Has this been a recent change in his feeding schedule?","human_ref_B":">i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8)  I think you're confused with diabetic feeding regimes for dogs;)  Diabetic cats can be fed ad lib.  >before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop.  Ask your vet about a specialist diabetic diet like Hills Metabolic - it will help (slightly) to alleviate hunger.  Equally weight management is key here. **If you manage to get his weight down and establish good diabetic control (rapidly) you can reverse diabetes in some cats!**","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11637.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yza6ic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"fat diabetic cat on a diet won\u2019t stop meowing for food at the asscrack of dawn before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop. i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8) but i\u2019m really tired of being woken up at 5:00-6 to him constantly scratching my door and meowing and waking the whole house up. i have a little brother (he is 2) and this affects him, along with my parents who are equally fed up. i am responsible for feeding and giving shots, though, so i get the grunt of the annoyances. i love this cat but GOD DAMN is he high maintenance and annoying.","c_root_id_A":"iwz1nu3","c_root_id_B":"ix0jiqg","created_at_utc_A":1668865129,"created_at_utc_B":1668889378,"score_A":14,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Has this been a recent change in his feeding schedule?","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re able to get an automatic feeder (they\u2019re not cheap but you can find some for reasonable prices), I highly recommend trying that route. You set the timer to feed at specific times and the cat gradually stops associating you with food\u2026 ideally he stops bothering you because you are not the source of his food! For this to work, you must never ever ever ever ever give in and give him food - every single morsel has to come from the feeder every single time\u2026 best of luck to you and your cat!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24249.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"yza6ic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"fat diabetic cat on a diet won\u2019t stop meowing for food at the asscrack of dawn before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop. i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8) but i\u2019m really tired of being woken up at 5:00-6 to him constantly scratching my door and meowing and waking the whole house up. i have a little brother (he is 2) and this affects him, along with my parents who are equally fed up. i am responsible for feeding and giving shots, though, so i get the grunt of the annoyances. i love this cat but GOD DAMN is he high maintenance and annoying.","c_root_id_A":"iwzsotg","c_root_id_B":"ix0jiqg","created_at_utc_A":1668877961,"created_at_utc_B":1668889378,"score_A":6,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You could buy an automatic feeder and schedule it for 5-6am along with 2-4 other meals per day","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re able to get an automatic feeder (they\u2019re not cheap but you can find some for reasonable prices), I highly recommend trying that route. You set the timer to feed at specific times and the cat gradually stops associating you with food\u2026 ideally he stops bothering you because you are not the source of his food! For this to work, you must never ever ever ever ever give in and give him food - every single morsel has to come from the feeder every single time\u2026 best of luck to you and your cat!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11417.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yza6ic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"fat diabetic cat on a diet won\u2019t stop meowing for food at the asscrack of dawn before anyone says anything: i know for a fact it\u2019s food he\u2019s meowing for. i do not know how to get this to stop. i was under the impression that you can\u2019t feed a diabetic cat more than an hour before they get insulin (he gets fed at 7:30, insulin at 8) but i\u2019m really tired of being woken up at 5:00-6 to him constantly scratching my door and meowing and waking the whole house up. i have a little brother (he is 2) and this affects him, along with my parents who are equally fed up. i am responsible for feeding and giving shots, though, so i get the grunt of the annoyances. i love this cat but GOD DAMN is he high maintenance and annoying.","c_root_id_A":"ix0jiqg","c_root_id_B":"ix08cg9","created_at_utc_A":1668889378,"created_at_utc_B":1668884590,"score_A":16,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re able to get an automatic feeder (they\u2019re not cheap but you can find some for reasonable prices), I highly recommend trying that route. You set the timer to feed at specific times and the cat gradually stops associating you with food\u2026 ideally he stops bothering you because you are not the source of his food! For this to work, you must never ever ever ever ever give in and give him food - every single morsel has to come from the feeder every single time\u2026 best of luck to you and your cat!","human_ref_B":"I thought my cats that they get fed when a certain alarm rings.   They get restricted feeding to maintain their weight, and are fed twice daily. Previously they would wake me quite aggressively all the time, but after we introduced the alarm, this has been a very rare occurrence.  And as someone else pointed out, it can take time for him to get adjusted to a new feeding regime.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4788.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"y3p7ou","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Feline dysautonomia, i think my cat is going to die at 6 years old i can\u2019t believe it. literally overnight and I wake up and get told she doesn\u2019t look very good, trouble passing urine, big eyes, strained breath. they\u2019ve got her on a feeding tube but i doubt she\u2019s going to make it. does anyone have any advice or information regarding this disease and whether there\u2019s anything i can suggest to the vet? it\u2019s not looking hopeful and it hasn\u2019t fully hit me yet that this beautiful girl is going to pass so early. i feel terrible that she\u2019s all alone at the vet, me and my family can\u2019t bear to visit her.","c_root_id_A":"isaas1o","c_root_id_B":"isafa48","created_at_utc_A":1665753841,"created_at_utc_B":1665755821,"score_A":32,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but for the love of everything, please reconsider and visit your cat.","human_ref_B":"Can't bear to visit her? Can you imagine dying alone in a hospital and your family won't come because it's too sad? How scared and alone and terrified you'd be?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1980.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"y3p7ou","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Feline dysautonomia, i think my cat is going to die at 6 years old i can\u2019t believe it. literally overnight and I wake up and get told she doesn\u2019t look very good, trouble passing urine, big eyes, strained breath. they\u2019ve got her on a feeding tube but i doubt she\u2019s going to make it. does anyone have any advice or information regarding this disease and whether there\u2019s anything i can suggest to the vet? it\u2019s not looking hopeful and it hasn\u2019t fully hit me yet that this beautiful girl is going to pass so early. i feel terrible that she\u2019s all alone at the vet, me and my family can\u2019t bear to visit her.","c_root_id_A":"isafa48","c_root_id_B":"isabnso","created_at_utc_A":1665755821,"created_at_utc_B":1665754242,"score_A":36,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Can't bear to visit her? Can you imagine dying alone in a hospital and your family won't come because it's too sad? How scared and alone and terrified you'd be?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you\u2019re having to deal with this. Visit her! Can\u2019t tell you how many times I\u2019ve read about pets looking around for their owners who felt they couldn\u2019t bear to be there for their euthanasia or passing. Just the thought of that breaks my heart. It\u2019ll give you closure and remove the possibility of regret later on. Please be there for your sweet cat. For both of your sakes!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1579.0,"score_ratio":1.5652173913}
{"post_id":"y3p7ou","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Feline dysautonomia, i think my cat is going to die at 6 years old i can\u2019t believe it. literally overnight and I wake up and get told she doesn\u2019t look very good, trouble passing urine, big eyes, strained breath. they\u2019ve got her on a feeding tube but i doubt she\u2019s going to make it. does anyone have any advice or information regarding this disease and whether there\u2019s anything i can suggest to the vet? it\u2019s not looking hopeful and it hasn\u2019t fully hit me yet that this beautiful girl is going to pass so early. i feel terrible that she\u2019s all alone at the vet, me and my family can\u2019t bear to visit her.","c_root_id_A":"isctxts","c_root_id_B":"isbzivm","created_at_utc_A":1665791684,"created_at_utc_B":1665778440,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"LVT here. If you can't visit, it's ok. Your cat is very likely being well cared for.  For everyone perpetuating this myth, ANIMALS DO NOT DIE ALONE AT THE VET. They are loved to the end by caring staff, especially if the owners can't bear to see them.   I've been there many times for pets last moments when their owners could not. It's ok. Your animal is so sick, they just don't want to suffer.   There is no shame in how you handle this. Just ask yourself if you will regret it. If the answer is \"maybe,\" then you'll probably want to try to visit. If you can't, maybe tell a staff member some things your kitty likes, like where they like to be petted. I bet they'd be happy to provide some comfort.   So sorry you're going through this. It sounds like you are doing all you can.","human_ref_B":"Please, PLEASE, visit your cat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13244.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikod3t9","c_root_id_B":"ikogp3c","created_at_utc_A":1660754436,"created_at_utc_B":1660755776,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s a very hard choice to make, I won\u2019t lie loosing a pet and making this choice is almost worse then watching a human pass. Because the choice is fully on your shoulder. However you have to look at the quality of life. From what you have described it doesn\u2019t sound like it has a quality life. I think you are making the correct choice.  Spoil him one last day, go do all of there favorites.","human_ref_B":"Hello. Hugs to you and your dog. Talk to your dog, hug him, and tell him you will be with him in the afterlife. Tell him he must wait for you. Be there during the procedure, hold his paw, stroke his head, and shower him with kisses. He will understand. He knows.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1340.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikod3t9","c_root_id_B":"ikpinux","created_at_utc_A":1660754436,"created_at_utc_B":1660769970,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s a very hard choice to make, I won\u2019t lie loosing a pet and making this choice is almost worse then watching a human pass. Because the choice is fully on your shoulder. However you have to look at the quality of life. From what you have described it doesn\u2019t sound like it has a quality life. I think you are making the correct choice.  Spoil him one last day, go do all of there favorites.","human_ref_B":"You are doing the right thing by putting your angel to sleep. As a vet tech, I help people through alot of these difficult decisions. It's never easy, but your baby is in pain and it's probably time. If they cannot do what they love anymore, they are letting you know they are ready. You have given an amazing and incredible life to your fur baby. They love you with everything they have. It will be hard but personally I think it's the right decision. Sending my thoughts and prayers to you and your pup through this difficult time. \ud83d\udc99","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15534.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikpinux","c_root_id_B":"ikol8vo","created_at_utc_A":1660769970,"created_at_utc_B":1660757499,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"You are doing the right thing by putting your angel to sleep. As a vet tech, I help people through alot of these difficult decisions. It's never easy, but your baby is in pain and it's probably time. If they cannot do what they love anymore, they are letting you know they are ready. You have given an amazing and incredible life to your fur baby. They love you with everything they have. It will be hard but personally I think it's the right decision. Sending my thoughts and prayers to you and your pup through this difficult time. \ud83d\udc99","human_ref_B":"Best thing is to say is what would I want if I were him?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12471.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikod3t9","c_root_id_B":"ikqfhxm","created_at_utc_A":1660754436,"created_at_utc_B":1660783571,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s a very hard choice to make, I won\u2019t lie loosing a pet and making this choice is almost worse then watching a human pass. Because the choice is fully on your shoulder. However you have to look at the quality of life. From what you have described it doesn\u2019t sound like it has a quality life. I think you are making the correct choice.  Spoil him one last day, go do all of there favorites.","human_ref_B":"First, I want to say I\u2019m so sorry for what you\u2019re going through. Losing a pet is always hard, and never gets any easier.  The word euthanasia is derived from Greek, meaning \u201cdying well\u201d or \u201cgood death.\u201d It is an act of kindness, and understanding, and a peaceful ending to a long life. Secondly, I can tell very clearly they were loved by you. Ultimately what you do is your choice. Think of what their quality of life will be if you decide not to take them to the vet tomorrow, as well as what you will be giving them if you do.  If you choose to go through with it tomorrow, spoil them. Give them all their favorite foods. Take them to their favorite place. Tell them you love them, for your own sake because I\u2019m sure they know.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29135.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikqfhxm","c_root_id_B":"ikol8vo","created_at_utc_A":1660783571,"created_at_utc_B":1660757499,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"First, I want to say I\u2019m so sorry for what you\u2019re going through. Losing a pet is always hard, and never gets any easier.  The word euthanasia is derived from Greek, meaning \u201cdying well\u201d or \u201cgood death.\u201d It is an act of kindness, and understanding, and a peaceful ending to a long life. Secondly, I can tell very clearly they were loved by you. Ultimately what you do is your choice. Think of what their quality of life will be if you decide not to take them to the vet tomorrow, as well as what you will be giving them if you do.  If you choose to go through with it tomorrow, spoil them. Give them all their favorite foods. Take them to their favorite place. Tell them you love them, for your own sake because I\u2019m sure they know.","human_ref_B":"Best thing is to say is what would I want if I were him?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26072.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"wqp9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Am I making the wrong choice by putting my old dog down? 14 year old corgi. Basically completely blind, survived a couple of strokes last year, but got back to \u201cnormal\u201d but had a herniated disc two weeks ago. And now he can\u2019t walk. I took him to the vet several times, and each time he alluded that it\u2019s probably time.  He eats and drinks ok, goes to the bathroom. But he\u2019s blind, can only walk 4-5 feet at a time, he seems to have lost his sense of balance as well. And the worst, he whimpers in pain a little bit when he thinks I\u2019ve left the room. He\u2019s got some bed sores now which I think is the cause of the whimpering. But even before the sores he hasn\u2019t really had a good day since his back injury. I just don\u2019t see this ever getting better.  I\u2019ve scheduled an appointment for his vet tomorrow to put him to sleep. But I just feel this immense guilt, like we could treat the sores and I could keep him going for a long time still. But even then, it\u2019s just prolonging the inevitable leaving him in pain. I\u2019ve never felt so torn about a decision in my life. Selfishly I want him to keep on going, hope for a chance at recovery. But it just feels all downhill and I don\u2019t want him to suffer anymore.","c_root_id_A":"ikqin1v","c_root_id_B":"ikol8vo","created_at_utc_A":1660784945,"created_at_utc_B":1660757499,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Had to go through this choice 3 years ago. At the end of the day the vet said she was in pain, suffering. The vet knows best. Before this, the vet had been telling me for a year that her condition was under control and she was not in pain. When the vet changed her view to say she's in pain and I'm just maling her suffer if I don't take action, I knew I had to accept putting her down even though it was difficult.  Stay with your dog during the process. My parents were not there for their dog at the end, like I was for mine. And that always makes me think their dog must have been so confused and scared in their final moments.  My thoughts are with you.","human_ref_B":"Best thing is to say is what would I want if I were him?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27446.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ynrk6e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Cat hasn't peed\/popped and drinked in 30 hours  I just got my first Kitten in my life, a 3 months female siberian cat....she arrived home yesterday, and she has been super cuddly and super chill with everyone in the family(showing her belly, purring, playing), and shes eating some raw meat ..only at the start she was a little scared. The problem that i've got its that she hasnt been drinking anything(i've tried different bowls different location, but nothing) ) and she wont go anywhere near the litter box(she know where it is but she rarely go in that room) , so its been 30 hours and she hasnt pooped or peed.  Is it anything i need to be worry about?   Thank you in advance","c_root_id_A":"ivbrxy5","c_root_id_B":"ivb8bbi","created_at_utc_A":1667766109,"created_at_utc_B":1667758675,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"You can always call an emergency vet and describe the situation. Cats can deteriorate quickly","human_ref_B":"Try buying a different kind of food (such as a different brand of wet food, or a dehydrated meat snack, etc).   You need to move the litter box to a common room, the room the kitten spends the most time in.  If you're using tap water and a plastic bowl, switch to distilled water and a ceramic bowl (like from your cupboard). Or try leaving a faucet dripping if they can reach it. Cats prefer running water. I recommend a \"pet drink fountain\" that encourages drinking because the water is always moving. Remember that they won't want to drink or eat from containers that have high sides because it puts strain on their whiskers and feels bad.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7434.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"vk5yp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"dog at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... My 13 lb dog is at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... can Vetoryl seriously hurt a dog that isn't supposed to take it?","c_root_id_A":"idnbr84","c_root_id_B":"idnf3xd","created_at_utc_A":1656128271,"created_at_utc_B":1656130153,"score_A":2,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Vetoryl (Trilostane) is given to dogs with hyper-cortisolism (cushings) to suppress their over-productive adrenal gland. Given to a normal dog, this has the same effect, but decreases cortisol levels below normal, and can induce hypo-cortisolism (addisons), which partially encompasses some of the clinical signs you are describing. Trilostane is effective for 24 hours, which is why it must be given daily, so if you did give it to her by accident, her signs should resolve by the next day; however, PLEASE KEEP YOUR ER APPOINTMENT!!! I\u2019m not telling you this to save you money or so you won\u2019t have to wait at the ER, but merely to ease your worry while you wait. She most definitely needs to be examined and evaluated asap to determine if she needs treatment or supportive care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1882.0,"score_ratio":25.0}
{"post_id":"vk5yp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"dog at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... My 13 lb dog is at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... can Vetoryl seriously hurt a dog that isn't supposed to take it?","c_root_id_A":"idnbr84","c_root_id_B":"idoure3","created_at_utc_A":1656128271,"created_at_utc_B":1656166969,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"If you did give the vetoryl: as long as you told your ER vet, they should easily be able to stabilise any symptoms by giving your dog corticosteroids and if necessary supplement salts etc. As long as they know that's what possibly happened then I would expect she would recover without any problems.  If it's not that, then obviously it depends on her diagnosis what it could be.  The important thing is: she's in the right place and you've done what you can. It's in the hands of the ER now. And if they don't think her condition is serious enough she won't be at the top of the list (and this probably means it's not too bad!) but if she does deteriorate then generally she will be made a priority.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":38698.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"vk5yp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"dog at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... My 13 lb dog is at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... can Vetoryl seriously hurt a dog that isn't supposed to take it?","c_root_id_A":"idpxkp1","c_root_id_B":"idnbr84","created_at_utc_A":1656184561,"created_at_utc_B":1656128271,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"How is pup?","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":56290.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"vk5yp6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"dog at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... My 13 lb dog is at ER now, I'm wondering if I gave her wrong dog meds 100 mg Vetoryl instead of her Fluconzinale by accident as it was a stressful morning going to a memorial service. She was hiding, panting, seeming in pain, not eating or drinking when I got home 8 hrs later... can Vetoryl seriously hurt a dog that isn't supposed to take it?","c_root_id_A":"idnbr84","c_root_id_B":"idq1dim","created_at_utc_A":1656128271,"created_at_utc_B":1656186314,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"How is she doing? Do you have any answers yet? I'm a worrier and I would be a mess in your shoes. Hang in there!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":58043.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"rl4psu","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My puppy is going to die at this point My 2 months old (hes turning 3 this december 29) german shepherd started to throw up his food for the first time about a week ago. We called our vet and he said it was normal. Then he started to do it more regularly, and we got worried so we took him to the vet that same day, they gave him something for his liver, something to stop the vomit and told us to only give him boiled chicken breast. Everything seemed okay.  Next day he started to throw up again, everytime he ate his food, we rushed to the vet and they decided to hospitalize him to control his vomit. Everything seemed okay again. Up to this point, we tought he had something blocking his intestines because he didnt poop in almost 1 day and a half.  They said everything was fine so we took him home. He threw up that same morning, this time it was only this orange liquid with a very weird smell (im sure it was bile). We rushed to the vet again only a few hours after we picked him up. He had an ultrasound, nothing seemed to be blocking his intestines, but he had a lot of liquid in his stomach (the vet said he must be in a lot of pain, my poor baby) and he stayed hospitalized again with serum (I dont know how to to say this in english sorry) to prevent dehydration. He was a whole weekend there, and now he is with us because he stopped vomiting for a whole day, the vet said we should try to give him only some ice cubes to lick from our hand and boiled chicken breast.  He is home right now but he looks like a squeleton, he has lost so much weight i cant even look at him without crying, and we wont eat anything, he literally looks away, he is tired and sad all the time, and Im sure he is trying his hardest not to throw up again, I can literally hear it and his tummy is really big.  They said he tested parvo negative, even tho he has all the symptoms except for the diarreah and the fever, his temperature is normal and he hasnt poop in almost a whole day now, even when he was at his worst he didnt poop. He has all his shoots, he have a small backyard but he stayed inside almost all the time, we didnt even let him go outside alone some was always with him.  &#x200B;  The vets dont know whats wrong with him, and he is slowly dying in front of my eyes Im trying to do everything they told me but I just cant see him anymore like this, I dont even know why im wrting this i just wish someone would tell me what he has and if theres any special miracle drug that would bring my playful, beautiful puppy back im literally crying while im writing this","c_root_id_A":"hpdudeo","c_root_id_B":"hpdov7q","created_at_utc_A":1640059294,"created_at_utc_B":1640056731,"score_A":37,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Take him to a different vet. Just like with people, pets sometimes need second opinions too.","human_ref_B":"Did they do any x-rays of his chest and abdomen? If he vomits after eating, something may be wrong with his esophagus, so that would be important to check as well. If it looks normal on x-ray, may want to consider endoscopy (a camera is placed down the esophagus to look the inside of the esophagus, stomach, and part of the intestines. Can he hold down liquids? If so, maybe try a liquid diet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2563.0,"score_ratio":1.85}
{"post_id":"zmzqk4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Should we be deep cleaning our apartment after our puppy recovers from Parvo\/before she comes back home? At what point does it make sense to do so? We rescued a 8 week old puppy last weekend. When we got her she had just received her first round of vaccines the day before. She was extremely lethargic and didn\u2019t want to move at all except to go to the bathroom. She barely ate and drank water but had a little bit of food, which we thought was because she was adjusting or her vaccine. The next day she vomited and had diarrhea so we immediately took her to the emergency animal hospital and they said she has parvo. She\u2019s getting care now and the prognosis looks good so we should be able to pick her up in a day or so. We were originally planning to take her to puppy preschool where she could socialize with other puppies in a clean environment prior to all her vaccinations being complete, but now I\u2019m guessing we probably won\u2019t be able to attend that for a while.  We were thinking we should deep clean the apartment with bleach before she comes home, but I read that she would be shedding the virus up to 2 weeks after she recovers so then I thought maybe it makes sense to clean after that point so we can possibly join the puppy socialization classes in 2-3 weeks. But then I read that Parvo lives in carpet and other surfaces for many many months, so now I\u2019m wondering if it\u2019s even worth cleaning and this means she won\u2019t be able to attend any socialization classes until 16 weeks, which concerns me a bit.  TLDR; puppy is recovering from parvo and seems to be doing well. Once she comes home and is fully recovered, we want to prioritize training and socializing, but not at risk of other puppies. Want to know if cleaning everything with bleach will help expedite the timeline of being able to socialize sooner or if it\u2019s not worth it","c_root_id_A":"j0e0q9d","c_root_id_B":"j0ee1p0","created_at_utc_A":1671146657,"created_at_utc_B":1671152394,"score_A":3,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Clean before you bring her home, and then bathe her immediately when you get her home. Clean her toys with bleach, any soft fabric she pooped on should probably be thrown away. Then just be hyper vigilant about picking up her poop and disinfecting where she poops in the house. I\u2019d ask your vet when they think she could start puppy classes as far as shedding goes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5737.0,"score_ratio":13.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zmzqk4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Should we be deep cleaning our apartment after our puppy recovers from Parvo\/before she comes back home? At what point does it make sense to do so? We rescued a 8 week old puppy last weekend. When we got her she had just received her first round of vaccines the day before. She was extremely lethargic and didn\u2019t want to move at all except to go to the bathroom. She barely ate and drank water but had a little bit of food, which we thought was because she was adjusting or her vaccine. The next day she vomited and had diarrhea so we immediately took her to the emergency animal hospital and they said she has parvo. She\u2019s getting care now and the prognosis looks good so we should be able to pick her up in a day or so. We were originally planning to take her to puppy preschool where she could socialize with other puppies in a clean environment prior to all her vaccinations being complete, but now I\u2019m guessing we probably won\u2019t be able to attend that for a while.  We were thinking we should deep clean the apartment with bleach before she comes home, but I read that she would be shedding the virus up to 2 weeks after she recovers so then I thought maybe it makes sense to clean after that point so we can possibly join the puppy socialization classes in 2-3 weeks. But then I read that Parvo lives in carpet and other surfaces for many many months, so now I\u2019m wondering if it\u2019s even worth cleaning and this means she won\u2019t be able to attend any socialization classes until 16 weeks, which concerns me a bit.  TLDR; puppy is recovering from parvo and seems to be doing well. Once she comes home and is fully recovered, we want to prioritize training and socializing, but not at risk of other puppies. Want to know if cleaning everything with bleach will help expedite the timeline of being able to socialize sooner or if it\u2019s not worth it","c_root_id_A":"j0e0q9d","c_root_id_B":"j0gdcn3","created_at_utc_A":1671146657,"created_at_utc_B":1671196730,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet but would err on the side of cleaning more. No harm in deep cleaning before she gets home, after she finishes her 2-3 week quarantine. As another person said, your pup\u2019s vet can definitely advise on this! Sorry you\u2019re going through this. It\u2019s so hard to see them sick when they\u2019re so little.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":50073.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zmzqk4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Should we be deep cleaning our apartment after our puppy recovers from Parvo\/before she comes back home? At what point does it make sense to do so? We rescued a 8 week old puppy last weekend. When we got her she had just received her first round of vaccines the day before. She was extremely lethargic and didn\u2019t want to move at all except to go to the bathroom. She barely ate and drank water but had a little bit of food, which we thought was because she was adjusting or her vaccine. The next day she vomited and had diarrhea so we immediately took her to the emergency animal hospital and they said she has parvo. She\u2019s getting care now and the prognosis looks good so we should be able to pick her up in a day or so. We were originally planning to take her to puppy preschool where she could socialize with other puppies in a clean environment prior to all her vaccinations being complete, but now I\u2019m guessing we probably won\u2019t be able to attend that for a while.  We were thinking we should deep clean the apartment with bleach before she comes home, but I read that she would be shedding the virus up to 2 weeks after she recovers so then I thought maybe it makes sense to clean after that point so we can possibly join the puppy socialization classes in 2-3 weeks. But then I read that Parvo lives in carpet and other surfaces for many many months, so now I\u2019m wondering if it\u2019s even worth cleaning and this means she won\u2019t be able to attend any socialization classes until 16 weeks, which concerns me a bit.  TLDR; puppy is recovering from parvo and seems to be doing well. Once she comes home and is fully recovered, we want to prioritize training and socializing, but not at risk of other puppies. Want to know if cleaning everything with bleach will help expedite the timeline of being able to socialize sooner or if it\u2019s not worth it","c_root_id_A":"j0gvdjc","c_root_id_B":"j0e0q9d","created_at_utc_A":1671204808,"created_at_utc_B":1671146657,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Parvo can live in the environment and in the soil for years. That\u2019s why it\u2019s so important to clean where she\u2019s been.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":58151.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1xm200","c_root_id_B":"j1xzoy9","created_at_utc_A":1672198798,"created_at_utc_B":1672206207,"score_A":81,"score_B":86,"human_ref_A":"It should be difficult to source a new puppy from a reputable breeder in the next six months anyhow. If you follow your vet\u2019s recommendations for disinfection in the meantime you should be ok by the time you find a healthy new fit","human_ref_B":"Get a fully vaccinated adult dog from a foster situation instead of a puppy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7409.0,"score_ratio":1.0617283951}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1xzoy9","c_root_id_B":"j1w7xij","created_at_utc_A":1672206207,"created_at_utc_B":1672176562,"score_A":86,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Get a fully vaccinated adult dog from a foster situation instead of a puppy.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29645.0,"score_ratio":9.5555555556}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1xm200","c_root_id_B":"j1w7xij","created_at_utc_A":1672198798,"created_at_utc_B":1672176562,"score_A":81,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"It should be difficult to source a new puppy from a reputable breeder in the next six months anyhow. If you follow your vet\u2019s recommendations for disinfection in the meantime you should be ok by the time you find a healthy new fit","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22236.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1ypyos","c_root_id_B":"j1w7xij","created_at_utc_A":1672226802,"created_at_utc_B":1672176562,"score_A":35,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but just wanted to say I'm sorry, that's a very difficult experience for you. RIP little pup.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":50240.0,"score_ratio":3.8888888889}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1ypyos","c_root_id_B":"j1ylurt","created_at_utc_A":1672226802,"created_at_utc_B":1672223488,"score_A":35,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but just wanted to say I'm sorry, that's a very difficult experience for you. RIP little pup.","human_ref_B":"I agree with others that suggest adoption. So many beautiful and wonderful dogs need loving homes, not breed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3314.0,"score_ratio":5.8333333333}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1yusvl","c_root_id_B":"j1w7xij","created_at_utc_A":1672230407,"created_at_utc_B":1672176562,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"No do not bring a puppy in. Parvovirus lives for upto 2 years on surfaces dirt etc. don\u2019t do it. And idc about people who say use bleach. You can\u2019t get it all","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":53845.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1yusvl","c_root_id_B":"j1ylurt","created_at_utc_A":1672230407,"created_at_utc_B":1672223488,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"No do not bring a puppy in. Parvovirus lives for upto 2 years on surfaces dirt etc. don\u2019t do it. And idc about people who say use bleach. You can\u2019t get it all","human_ref_B":"I agree with others that suggest adoption. So many beautiful and wonderful dogs need loving homes, not breed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6919.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zwqrqt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Puppy tested negative for parvo but did not survive - is it safe to bring another dog into my home? On 11\/21 I brought home my 8 week old golden retriever puppy. After a few days, she was vomiting and not eating so I took her to the emergency vet. She tested negative for parvovirus, but the veterinary staff told me that there were some new strains of parvo that sometimes gave a false negative.  About 24 hours later, it was determined that she had intussusception and received emergency surgery. The vet indicated that her intestine was possibly septic and her kidneys were likely failing.  We made the difficult decision to euthanize this tiny puppy and the past month has been awful. As I start to heal, I am considering the possibility of adopting another dog in the future.   Even though my puppy tested negative, is there a risk of parvo living in my home or yard? I understand that this isn\u2019t why my dog died but I can\u2019t help but wonder. She was treated in isolation even after the negative test result.","c_root_id_A":"j1zbth0","c_root_id_B":"j1ylurt","created_at_utc_A":1672239674,"created_at_utc_B":1672223488,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Parvo can live on surfaces for months if they\u2019re not disinfected properly, so I would not get a new puppy immediately.","human_ref_B":"I agree with others that suggest adoption. So many beautiful and wonderful dogs need loving homes, not breed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16186.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"g54uyc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Puppy's aversion to his harness and walks is getting worse to the point that it's truly concerning me. Is this something worth talking to my vet about? * **Species: Canine** * **Age: 9 months** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Neutered** * **Breed: Pomeranian mix** * **Body weight: 13lbs** * **History: none** * **Clinical signs: Submissive\/fearful behavior at sight of harness, refusing to move on walk** * **Duration: Entire life, progressively worsening** * **Your general location: Oregon**  I have discussed this on reddit before on r\/puppies101 and r\/dogs, and the general consensus is my dog is just being bratty. But, he is so upset when he sees his harness that it makes me feel like it's more than just a bratty pup, unless whatever act he's playing has just progressed this far. About half the time when he sees his harness, he pees himself.  What really worried me today was for the first time, he also refused to go on a walk. We got a couple houses down the street, and then he refused to move. If we turned back towards the house, he would begin to walk again. I tried turning around to continue the walk, and he once again laid down and refused to move. I don't know of anything that could have previously traumatized him. It was 70F when we tried walking, which is the hottest he's walked in, but I checked the ground with my hand and I don't think it was anywhere near too hot for his paws.  I use a nylon step-in harness, and I have checked everywhere for places that could be pinching or rubbing him. I have tried a padded chest harness, and he disliked that one even more. Though, I do think that one didn't fit him well. This is concerning and frustrating for me, because due to quarantine orders, walking him on a leash around the neighborhood is the only form of exercise I can give him anymore other than playing with toys in the house or backyard. Before this, we regularly went on easy hikes and off-leash parks. He still initially disliked his harness, but would enjoy the outing.  Is this behavior worth talking to my vet about? Are you able to make any recommendations on what could possibly be the most comfortable type of harness for him if the kind I use isn't a good style?","c_root_id_A":"fo2j63w","c_root_id_B":"fo2ds5y","created_at_utc_A":1587464432,"created_at_utc_B":1587458551,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Has he been to a vet to rule out any medical issues? Has he ever had hip or other joint-related x-rays?  While he may have had no issues as a young pup, as they get bigger and gain more weight, any congenital joint issues will show up more as they get bigger.  Medical issues always need to be ruled out before going down a long hunt for a behavioural problem.","human_ref_B":"I'd just like to stick up for r\/puppy101 first, since I'm a mod there. One person said your dog was being bratty. That would not be the general consensus of the subscribers there who are more knowledgeable about dog behavior. Unfortunately, many of the usual folks there are wrapped up in COVID-related life issues, and aren't spending as much time helping puppy owners with advice on the sub.  > About half the time when he sees his harness, he pees himself.   This has nothing to do with being \"bratty\", and his behavior is an emotional reaction, not a conscious choice. The harness is paired with a feeling of anxiety for some reason.  Many dogs have an aversion to harnesses, probably due the unnatural feeling of something wrapped around their bodies. My own 3-yr-old dog will quickly walk away if I bring his harness in the house, even though he has worn one almost every day of his life and only to do fun things like go for exploratory walks. It has never been paired with anything scary or otherwise aversive except for the very first time I put it on him as a puppy. (I should have done better with that.) But every day when I drive to his favorite walk spots, he stands still in the car with his tail down while I put it on, because he doesn't like that part. (I never put it on till we get to the walk location, for that reason.) Then he's off to the races and couldn't care less about whether he has on a harness, a collar, or nothing at all.  He also shows maybe 30 seconds of not liking being in his harness when we start a walk in the neighborhood (like you, something we are having to do regularly now). He shakes his body a bit (like he would after a bath), walks a little weird and just doesn't seem as happy as normal. I think that the neighborhood isn't exciting enough to get him through those first 30 seconds of being uncomfortable, whereas getting out of the car puts him into instant fun mode.  My first recommendation to you would be to get in the car and drive somewhere else in the neighborhood and then follow your normal routine for getting the harness on and starting the walk. That might be enough to keep his anxiety down while you work on the issue at home through a bunch of desensitization (DS) and counterconditioning (CC) sessions.  The DS part will get him from \"harness bad\" to \"harness neutral\". Doing additional CC will get all the way to \"harness good\", but it may take quite a bit of time and effort.  For the DS, just leave the harness out in view somewhere that he will notice, but it won't cause him any but the most mild level of stress (like you can just see a bit of change in his body or facial expression, nothing more). After a couple days, move it to a slightly closer location. Continue to move it closer to him over time, based on how he is doing, until you can have it right next to him, and eventually put it on and have him be accepting of that.  Adding in the CC part means pairing the harness with something good. It's very similar to DS in that you start with it very far away, and give him tons of treats as he is noticing it. He must notice the harness first, and then get treats, in that order. Then put the harness away and treats stop. Over time, harness is gradually closer (just laying on the ground), then further away but you holding it, then closer with you holding it, then moving it around, then touching him, then partly on and immediately off, etc. Always at his pace, never causing stress.  I haven't done the CC part with my dog because his discomfort plateau'd at a level that I considered to be pretty minor in the scheme of things.  While you are doing the DS\/CC work, you should use a collar for walks (unless he's okay if you do what I recommended about driving to a different walk starting point). Otherwise, if you just put his harness on like normal, it will set back his progress. If you attach his collar to a 10-15' long line, he's likely to be less interested in pulling (compared to a 6' leash) because he can still freely explore and sniff. If he does pull, try circling with him (open circles, him on the outside) so that he can keep moving while at the same time learning that he can't go the direction he wants when he pulls.   I hope that helps!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5881.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"cuft71","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Seven week old puppy is failing to thrive. He has been at the animal hospital for several days. They released him into my care. I am with a rescue. He just keeps going downhill and has now started vomiting and has diarrhea. He has been tested for everything under the sun. He was positive for coccidia two weeks ago but has been treated for that. He is on a regimen of oral metronidazole, injectable penicillin, and Cerenia. I just gave him a sucralfate slurry after his last vomit. I have been tube feeding him Esbilac and electrolytes just to keep some kind of liquid in him. He cannot handle any hard food or soft food out of the can. He is a bag of bones and skin. I\u2019m starting to think they should just put him down. But I\u2019m going to give it until the end of the day. Any advice would be appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"exu8zql","c_root_id_B":"exudzxq","created_at_utc_A":1566580837,"created_at_utc_B":1566582599,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Do you have test results you can upload? Also, please see the template and fill in the requested information.","human_ref_B":"I'd suggest retesting a fecal sample to see if the coccidia infection was cleared and if anything else shows up - I would suggest a panel that checks for antigens, not just eggs, sent out to the lab instead of tested in the clinic. Rechecking a CBC at this point might also be useful. There are PCR diarrhea panels that can be run on feces looking for bacterial infections, and there is also a GI panel through Idexx that could look for pancreatitis and EPI among other things. Have x-rays or ultrasound been done yet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1762.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdur7z","c_root_id_B":"hcdetw0","created_at_utc_A":1631323422,"created_at_utc_B":1631315436,"score_A":84,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat able to move at this point? I would strongly advise you take her in for euthanasia. Death by dehydration is very painful. Have you ever been hungover, that headache body pain weakness shit feeling? I would venture she feels that x 1000. Just because she\u2019s breathing steadily and not vocalizing doesn\u2019t mean she feels good.   She may start to have seizures soon, so if you\u2019re upset by her appearance now I would mentally prepare yourself for what may be imminently approaching.   I personally would never want to die from unmedicated renal failure.","human_ref_B":"Do you have the option to take her for euthanasia now? If not then you\u2019re torturing yourself with what if\u2019s on the internet. I\u2019m sorry for the circumstances, you clearly love your cat and are trying to make loving decisions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7986.0,"score_ratio":4.4210526316}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdur7z","c_root_id_B":"hcducdb","created_at_utc_A":1631323422,"created_at_utc_B":1631323211,"score_A":84,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat able to move at this point? I would strongly advise you take her in for euthanasia. Death by dehydration is very painful. Have you ever been hungover, that headache body pain weakness shit feeling? I would venture she feels that x 1000. Just because she\u2019s breathing steadily and not vocalizing doesn\u2019t mean she feels good.   She may start to have seizures soon, so if you\u2019re upset by her appearance now I would mentally prepare yourself for what may be imminently approaching.   I personally would never want to die from unmedicated renal failure.","human_ref_B":"While it's hard to lose a pet at any time, since yes, they are a family member, the kindest thing that you as a pet owner can do for your pet is to not allow them to suffer.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":211.0,"score_ratio":4.9411764706}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdur7z","c_root_id_B":"hcdptcs","created_at_utc_A":1631323422,"created_at_utc_B":1631320914,"score_A":84,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat able to move at this point? I would strongly advise you take her in for euthanasia. Death by dehydration is very painful. Have you ever been hungover, that headache body pain weakness shit feeling? I would venture she feels that x 1000. Just because she\u2019s breathing steadily and not vocalizing doesn\u2019t mean she feels good.   She may start to have seizures soon, so if you\u2019re upset by her appearance now I would mentally prepare yourself for what may be imminently approaching.   I personally would never want to die from unmedicated renal failure.","human_ref_B":"Is at home euthenaisa a possibility in your area? Probably not with your vet, but with someone else?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2508.0,"score_ratio":9.3333333333}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdur7z","c_root_id_B":"hcdjn9h","created_at_utc_A":1631323422,"created_at_utc_B":1631317830,"score_A":84,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat able to move at this point? I would strongly advise you take her in for euthanasia. Death by dehydration is very painful. Have you ever been hungover, that headache body pain weakness shit feeling? I would venture she feels that x 1000. Just because she\u2019s breathing steadily and not vocalizing doesn\u2019t mean she feels good.   She may start to have seizures soon, so if you\u2019re upset by her appearance now I would mentally prepare yourself for what may be imminently approaching.   I personally would never want to die from unmedicated renal failure.","human_ref_B":"Get that poor cat euthanized already!!!  We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life, but based on your post it is clear that she doesn't have anything remotely resembling adequate quality of life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5592.0,"score_ratio":21.0}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdptcs","c_root_id_B":"hcducdb","created_at_utc_A":1631320914,"created_at_utc_B":1631323211,"score_A":9,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Is at home euthenaisa a possibility in your area? Probably not with your vet, but with someone else?","human_ref_B":"While it's hard to lose a pet at any time, since yes, they are a family member, the kindest thing that you as a pet owner can do for your pet is to not allow them to suffer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2297.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcducdb","c_root_id_B":"hcdjn9h","created_at_utc_A":1631323211,"created_at_utc_B":1631317830,"score_A":17,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"While it's hard to lose a pet at any time, since yes, they are a family member, the kindest thing that you as a pet owner can do for your pet is to not allow them to suffer.","human_ref_B":"Get that poor cat euthanized already!!!  We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life, but based on your post it is clear that she doesn't have anything remotely resembling adequate quality of life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5381.0,"score_ratio":4.25}
{"post_id":"plur37","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Veterinarians of reddit, I need a reality check. I either have made a huge mistake, or I am simply horrified by the process of dying & death. My 17 yo cat slipped into end stage renal failure last week. My vet is supportive of my decisions, but didn't really offer me an in-depth description of what to expect.  I have been expecting this for a while, so when she became incontinent and seemed weak last Tuesday, the vet confirmed that she was at the end. I declined to euthanize right then because she hates the vet. It's complete drama and stress for her to go, and I wasn't going to have her last minutes in a place that she hates, yowling and screaming.   So I went home with her with the notion that I'd give her a few really fun, comfortable days at home before that final trip to the vet when I clearly could not keep her comfortable any longer. In-home euthanasia services aren't a thing where I'm located.  Last weekend I made the decision to let her pass away at home for 2 reasons: her vile hatred of a car ride and vet visit, and she has done nothing but sleep on my lap and drink the occasional sip of water. She stopped eating last Sunday. I tried to syringe feed some nutrition and liquid, but again, she was so stressed out and fighting me that I instead kept trying to offer her water and favorite foods for her to take on her own.  I felt ok about that decision. But yesterday her appearance has startled even me...and now I'm questioning everything I've done up to now.  TMI warning: in specific terms, she is skeletal at this point. She started today with some kind of thick drool\/goo on her bottom lip\/chin. I've been wiping it frequently to keep her fur from clumping. I've also been gently brushing her (which she loves!) but her fur is literally falling out.  I will underscore that she's not in extreme pain\/discomfort...she's simply swaddled in baby blankets and sleeping while I hold her.   Did I make the wrong choices for her?","c_root_id_A":"hcdptcs","c_root_id_B":"hcdjn9h","created_at_utc_A":1631320914,"created_at_utc_B":1631317830,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Is at home euthenaisa a possibility in your area? Probably not with your vet, but with someone else?","human_ref_B":"Get that poor cat euthanized already!!!  We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life, but based on your post it is clear that she doesn't have anything remotely resembling adequate quality of life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3084.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1sokhc","c_root_id_B":"j1soqxr","created_at_utc_A":1672107501,"created_at_utc_B":1672107584,"score_A":10,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"If 1 tooth is loose that means the others are affected by periodontal disease as well. Pup needs a dental!","human_ref_B":"You should make an appointment to actually consult the vet and see what they say first.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":83.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1sokhc","c_root_id_B":"j1so7vl","created_at_utc_A":1672107501,"created_at_utc_B":1672107341,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"If 1 tooth is loose that means the others are affected by periodontal disease as well. Pup needs a dental!","human_ref_B":"If the tooth is loose enough and falls out easily I\u2019d rather \u201cpop it out\u201d than put my old dog with heart disease under anesthesia. Often times teeth need to be real rotten for it to be that simple which probably isn\u2019t the case with just a little plaque. I think it\u2019s worth while letting your vet take a look at it and see if it\u2019s that simple or not. Second opinions aren\u2019t wrong either but I wouldn\u2019t jump to doubting the first vets opinion based on the other comments people have left on this post.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":160.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1soqxr","c_root_id_B":"j1so7vl","created_at_utc_A":1672107584,"created_at_utc_B":1672107341,"score_A":11,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"You should make an appointment to actually consult the vet and see what they say first.","human_ref_B":"If the tooth is loose enough and falls out easily I\u2019d rather \u201cpop it out\u201d than put my old dog with heart disease under anesthesia. Often times teeth need to be real rotten for it to be that simple which probably isn\u2019t the case with just a little plaque. I think it\u2019s worth while letting your vet take a look at it and see if it\u2019s that simple or not. Second opinions aren\u2019t wrong either but I wouldn\u2019t jump to doubting the first vets opinion based on the other comments people have left on this post.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":243.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1soqru","c_root_id_B":"j1soqxr","created_at_utc_A":1672107582,"created_at_utc_B":1672107584,"score_A":3,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s not good practice, but some folks do it dependent on the situation.   Also, your dogs mouth should be examined before they decide on a course of action.","human_ref_B":"You should make an appointment to actually consult the vet and see what they say first.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1tszgc","c_root_id_B":"j1soqru","created_at_utc_A":1672133849,"created_at_utc_B":1672107582,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Dental disease is unfortunately often undermanaged by veterinarians in my opinion. If there is one wobbly tooth there's very likely to be more that are painfuland need extraction. Assessment under GA with full charting and dental xrays should be standard (in my opinion). This enables planning of which teeth to take out. This can even be split into 2 shorter procedures for 2 shorter safer GAs if worried.  Heart disease is better assessed by ultrasound than x-ray, so may be worth asking for referal for this for a proper echocardiogram prior to anesthesia to help planning.  TLDR: Go to a specialist or 2nd opinion somewhere that does dental x-rays at least","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s not good practice, but some folks do it dependent on the situation.   Also, your dogs mouth should be examined before they decide on a course of action.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26267.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zvs0ai","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet wants to pull dog's tooth without anesthesia? I have a 14.5 yo mixed breed with a grade 3-4 heart murmur. He is in great condition for his age, high energy, and his recent blood panel was completely normal. The vet said his results were \"exceptional.\" He recently had chest x rays which did not show signs of heart disease.   In the past our vet has said it's probably not a great idea to do a dental for him due to his heart murmer and the anesthesia.  His teeth have some plaque, so I decided to start trying to brush them, and yesterday at our first attempt I noticed one of his small front teeth is loose. I called our vet and someone in the office told us to bring him by and they would try to just \"pop\" the tooth out of his mouth. No anesthesia. I asked about a local painkiller and they said it wasn't needed.  I'm wondering if this sounds safe\/standard? Will it hurt him? Would the infection still be in his mouth? Or should I ask for him to be referred to the local university for a full heart workup to do a traditional dental.","c_root_id_A":"j1tszgc","c_root_id_B":"j1tdd6p","created_at_utc_A":1672133849,"created_at_utc_B":1672121418,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Dental disease is unfortunately often undermanaged by veterinarians in my opinion. If there is one wobbly tooth there's very likely to be more that are painfuland need extraction. Assessment under GA with full charting and dental xrays should be standard (in my opinion). This enables planning of which teeth to take out. This can even be split into 2 shorter procedures for 2 shorter safer GAs if worried.  Heart disease is better assessed by ultrasound than x-ray, so may be worth asking for referal for this for a proper echocardiogram prior to anesthesia to help planning.  TLDR: Go to a specialist or 2nd opinion somewhere that does dental x-rays at least","human_ref_B":"The small front teeth you are referring to are incisors. At that age they do often come loose and even fall out on their own so it would be worth it for the vet to do an oral exam and use their best judgment. It is not considered good practice, but could outweigh the risks and costs of anesthesia. A dental with x rays and cleaning puts the animal under anesthesia for a decent amount of time\u2026","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12431.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mblkmx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Nervous about putting dog under anesthesia for a lump removal and teeth cleaning Species: Dog Age: 10 (estimated) Sex\/Neuter status: neutered Breed: jack russell\/boston terrier mix Body weight: 29lbs  Just posting to calm my nerves. I've owned my dog for about 6 years, and have never had to put him under anesthesia. The vet has been recommending a teeth cleaning since last year, just as a regular cleaning, not because he has any infections or anything wrong.   He also has a lump on his chest that they think is a lipoma, but since its growing she said having it removed and tested in case its not just fat is recommended.   I'm just nervous. My dog means a lot to me, the thought of him dying alone in a scary vet office for a standard teeth cleaning is causing me to panic a bit. The pamphlet my vet gave me says there's \"Less than a 2% chance of complications from anesthesia\", but 1\/50 sounds so risky to me! Like if I was given 50 dog treats and told that 1 would kill my dog, I wouldn't take that chance.  Can anyone calm my nerves? Are there any questions I should ask my vet about their safety? Should I seek out a specialist vet to minimize the risk? Does a specialist who does teeth cleaning and lump removal even exist?","c_root_id_A":"gryri5y","c_root_id_B":"grytjag","created_at_utc_A":1616528266,"created_at_utc_B":1616529150,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Above comment pretty much covered everything. Be sure to have blood work done prior to anesthesia to make sure there's no underlying issues the vet doesn't know about. I want to say I'm happy that you're doing a dental cleaning now, versus waiting until disease and pain. Great choice. It's important to make sure his dental health is up to date before he is too old for dentals. The lump removal usually doesn't take much time. I always have lumps sent off to the lab to find out exactly what it is, lest it grow back in 6 months and I'll have to get it removed again at least I'd be prepared lol.","human_ref_B":"I'll also point out that unaddressed dental disease can lead to a shorter life span.   So, for your analogy, it would be more like you have 50 kibbles to feed your dog, but if you don't feed half then your dog will suffer negative results.   So while there is risk, the low risk of anesthetics complications (especially if you take the above commenters advice), definitely outweighs the eventual outcome of unchecked dental disease.   Also, veterinary dentists exist, so if you can swing the cost they'll be able to tend your dog's teeth the fastest, which means less time under anesthesia. (Although IDK of they could\/would also handle lump removal, so that may change if it's better in your estimation to go there vs your regular vet.)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":884.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"mblkmx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Nervous about putting dog under anesthesia for a lump removal and teeth cleaning Species: Dog Age: 10 (estimated) Sex\/Neuter status: neutered Breed: jack russell\/boston terrier mix Body weight: 29lbs  Just posting to calm my nerves. I've owned my dog for about 6 years, and have never had to put him under anesthesia. The vet has been recommending a teeth cleaning since last year, just as a regular cleaning, not because he has any infections or anything wrong.   He also has a lump on his chest that they think is a lipoma, but since its growing she said having it removed and tested in case its not just fat is recommended.   I'm just nervous. My dog means a lot to me, the thought of him dying alone in a scary vet office for a standard teeth cleaning is causing me to panic a bit. The pamphlet my vet gave me says there's \"Less than a 2% chance of complications from anesthesia\", but 1\/50 sounds so risky to me! Like if I was given 50 dog treats and told that 1 would kill my dog, I wouldn't take that chance.  Can anyone calm my nerves? Are there any questions I should ask my vet about their safety? Should I seek out a specialist vet to minimize the risk? Does a specialist who does teeth cleaning and lump removal even exist?","c_root_id_A":"gryri5y","c_root_id_B":"grytue9","created_at_utc_A":1616528266,"created_at_utc_B":1616529286,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Above comment pretty much covered everything. Be sure to have blood work done prior to anesthesia to make sure there's no underlying issues the vet doesn't know about. I want to say I'm happy that you're doing a dental cleaning now, versus waiting until disease and pain. Great choice. It's important to make sure his dental health is up to date before he is too old for dentals. The lump removal usually doesn't take much time. I always have lumps sent off to the lab to find out exactly what it is, lest it grow back in 6 months and I'll have to get it removed again at least I'd be prepared lol.","human_ref_B":"<2% is complications of any kind, not deaths. Anesthetic deaths in otherwise healthy patients are very, very rare.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1020.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"5gji5a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"I just want to say a general thank you to those in the veterinary field... This is not a question but my .02. I love reading this sub, I have learned so much.   We had to put my 11 year old cat to sleep this past week and it's been heartbreaking. He started getting sick in July and probably was seen about 10 times in 4 months by 7 doctors in 3 offices. Everyone really went above and beyond to try to diagnose and help a patient who could not tell them anything and whose tests came back almost all completely normal. I have to say I was impressed with the knowledge and compassion across the board. Thank you to all that help here, you are much appreciated.  On a side note, I see a lot of people reluctant to go to the emergency vet due to cost. We had to go several times in the past few months(in an expensive state) and I found their fees honestly were not that bad. The price of euthanasia was less than my regular vet and also the meds we were given were cheaper than my regular vet. Again, may just be my case, but it wasn't that much more.","c_root_id_A":"dasv0r0","c_root_id_B":"dasutrf","created_at_utc_A":1480912379,"created_at_utc_B":1480912088,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you had to say goodbye to your cat friend. And thank you for your kind words.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for your loss.  I know how terrible it is, believe me. \ud83d\ude1e  You are an *awesome* cat parent! \ud83d\ude3d\ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":291.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"2okrmh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"So I'm that weirdo who asked for advice on how to pay my dog's medical bills a few weeks ago (dog woke up semi-paralyzed with no obvious explanation). Posting an update. She's a million times better! Species: Dog  Age: 9 mos  Sex\/Neuter status: Spayed  Breed: Miniature Pinscher  Body weight: 7.5 lbs, down to 5lb 3oz  History: Found her and her companions with a dead animal carcass (we live in the country on a lot of acreage).  Clinical signs: Semi-paralyzed: unable to move, blink, close mouth, chew food, hold head up, drink water. Intermittent twitches and spasms.  Duration: 2 weeks  Your general location: Texas  So just posting an update. All that up there is how she was when she was displaying the worst of her symptoms. It turns out it was either botulism (from the carcass she got into) or coonhound paralysis. Most likely botulism since the coonhound disease takes a week or so longer for them to regain the ability to walk.  She's still not back up to 100%. Needs to put on a little more weight. Needs help getting onto the couch (weird for her jumpy disposition). But she's so much better! Had to feed and water her with a squeeze bottle. Massage her muscles. Apply eye drops and antibiotic ointment to her eyes. Bathe her when she soiled herself. I asked my husband what he would have done if I hadn't been here to soldier through, like if he was a single dad, and he said he might have had to give her up to someone who could have offered her the care she needed. I'm so glad I was able to help her through it. Couldn't imagine our little gang without her.  Album (before, during, after): http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/6E3ER","c_root_id_A":"cmo2tu3","c_root_id_B":"cmo3b0d","created_at_utc_A":1417985033,"created_at_utc_B":1417985835,"score_A":10,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Good to hear! Thanks for the update. Hope she continues to improve.","human_ref_B":"Yay!! I'm glad she's close to back to herself, and really appreciate the update. :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":802.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"9oyegj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Can anyone give me some recommendations for footwear that is both safe and comfortable to wear in a veterinary surgery? (Getting repeat injuries in the workplace) Clinical history: My feet are a disaster and need orthotic insoles for functional hallux limitus and collapsed arches. I traditionally end up in men's running shoes, and try to pick a muted colour.  The problem: The floors at my current practice are like sheet glass (especially once they have been mopped), and I've fallen 3 times now injuring my knee and back. (I've already had a whinge about the use of the wet floor sign, but I'm not hopeful about any changes)  I can't be the only vet that has this problem! So- what are you guys wearing? I wear and 8.5 UK wide fit which disqualifies most women's shoes.  I just want a shoe that is comfortable, fits my insoles in, is nice and grippy and ideally isn't in a lurid colour that will scare the clients. I've ordered and sent back so many shoes that I'm sure Sports Direct thinks that I am a scammer.  &#x200B;  Also if this gets deleted- fair enough- it really isn't in line with the FAQ, but I've already asked all of the vets and groomers that I know in the real world. Thanks in advance for any help =)","c_root_id_A":"e7xmpmx","c_root_id_B":"e7xnkeg","created_at_utc_A":1539783533,"created_at_utc_B":1539784346,"score_A":25,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"Dansko's Pro XP line are meant to be truly slip resistant, so that might be something to consider.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but bartended for years. They have slips that you put over your shoe that make any shoe slip resistant.   Shoesforcrews.com","labels":0,"seconds_difference":813.0,"score_ratio":1.64}
{"post_id":"9oyegj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Can anyone give me some recommendations for footwear that is both safe and comfortable to wear in a veterinary surgery? (Getting repeat injuries in the workplace) Clinical history: My feet are a disaster and need orthotic insoles for functional hallux limitus and collapsed arches. I traditionally end up in men's running shoes, and try to pick a muted colour.  The problem: The floors at my current practice are like sheet glass (especially once they have been mopped), and I've fallen 3 times now injuring my knee and back. (I've already had a whinge about the use of the wet floor sign, but I'm not hopeful about any changes)  I can't be the only vet that has this problem! So- what are you guys wearing? I wear and 8.5 UK wide fit which disqualifies most women's shoes.  I just want a shoe that is comfortable, fits my insoles in, is nice and grippy and ideally isn't in a lurid colour that will scare the clients. I've ordered and sent back so many shoes that I'm sure Sports Direct thinks that I am a scammer.  &#x200B;  Also if this gets deleted- fair enough- it really isn't in line with the FAQ, but I've already asked all of the vets and groomers that I know in the real world. Thanks in advance for any help =)","c_root_id_A":"e7xrgd5","c_root_id_B":"e7xt35l","created_at_utc_A":1539787694,"created_at_utc_B":1539789041,"score_A":8,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"I get professional kitchen shoes through a local restaurant supply store. They have slip resistant soles, reinforced caps, and are designed for people who have to be on their feet all day long.","human_ref_B":"My partner is a chef and has been through decades of painful & expensive searching for the perfect non-slip footwear.   He finally settled on Crocs Bistro shoes. They are ugly as sin, but ....roomy enough for an insole, inexpensive, and lightweight. Easy to clean too. They have good grip on slick surfaces. Sizing shouldn't be an issue if you want to try them out.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1347.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"w2dmdc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My cat has herpes and my insurance company has declined all visits about vomitting. Is that normal? Species: Cat  Age: 1  Sex\/Neuter status: Male\/neutered  Breed: Domestic short hair  Body weight: 4.16kg  History: herpes and occasional vomit.  Clinical signs:vomit  Duration: a few days  Your general location: WA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:   I'm getting increasingly frustrated with my insurance. My friend recommended me Nationwide, which seems to be a reputable company. First vet visit, they ruled herpes as preexisting condition, which the shelter told me about upon adoption. That's fair. Throughout the few months that I have adopted him, he has been vomitting on and off, and we have seen the vet several times during this time. However, everytime I submit a claim, Nationwide declines it because this is preexisting condition. At this rate it just feels like the insurance is useless. Is there even a clear link between herpes and vomit? I'm not sure what they are doing is reasonable, and I wanted to know what people here think of it. Thanks for your help.","c_root_id_A":"igq885t","c_root_id_B":"igqkwzj","created_at_utc_A":1658198527,"created_at_utc_B":1658205066,"score_A":8,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"How do they even know about preexisting conditions? Your cat is pretty much brand new.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, I am a licensed insurance agent who worked for a large pet insurance company. (not Nationwide lol)  When the claims come back as denied on the EOB, are they denied as a pre-existing condition related to herpes? Unless the vets records specifically state the two are linked you'd have a good chance of getting the claims reviewed through an IHR (in house review) or you can appeal if this doesn't meet the grounds for an IHR. Typically FHV presents more as respiratory symptoms (though vomiting can be present say through coughing) so I would also wonder if vomiting is listed anywhere in the cats records prior to adoption?   My biggest suggestion is ask all of your vets for your pets complete medical history - the written medical notes not just the vaccine records. Then ask Nationwide to email you documentation of the records they have all file, noting anything relating to vomiting and the denial of these claims. It can also be useful to have your vet write a statement regarding this condition; when it began, differential diagnosis or causes, especially if the vet is comfortable stating there is no direct link between the vomiting that began after the policy and the pre-existing FHV. However, this statement also needs to hold up against medical records, so I always recommend having both.   Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6539.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"t4sc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What should I expect for my dogs euthanasia appointment? Hi everyone. Unfortunately my family has decided it\u2019s time to put down our dog. It\u2019s been a heartbreaking decision, but it\u2019s right one.   We have an at home euthanasia appointment scheduled with our regular vet and they shared a basic what to expect form but I still have a lot of anxiety as we approach the appointment.   Will he be in pain? Will he go potty on himself after he passes? Will he cry or seize or anything big and dramatic? Will it really be like he\u2019s just drifting peacefully to sleep?   He\u2019s my first dog. I\u2019m sad and I\u2019m scared. I just want to know that it won\u2019t be scary for him :(","c_root_id_A":"hz0j8j1","c_root_id_B":"hz0hfmf","created_at_utc_A":1646199020,"created_at_utc_B":1646198011,"score_A":15,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Every vets method is a little different as far as how they do it. Your vet should go over the procedure before they get started and what to expect. Most dogs do not close there eyes due to how quick the procedure takes places. Twitching, passive breathing, urinating and defecation can all happen during and after the procedure, but don\u2019t always happen. Most euthanasias go very smoothly and in a sense the patient drifts off to sleep in no pain, they\u2019re completely unconscious and unaware of what is happening. Rarely things don\u2019t go as planned, but it does happened.","human_ref_B":"It depends on how they do it but I will assume the standard. No pain is involved. He might be sedated first but even if not, the euthanizia solution renders the animal unconscious first, and then stops the lungs and heart. It takes seconds for him to pass. Yes, he might urinate or defecate. The body (not the brain) sometimes causes a deep breath or two after they are gone which might be scary, but they are not really alive or sensing anything. Their eyes remain open. I hope this helps. Sorry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1009.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"t4sc86","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What should I expect for my dogs euthanasia appointment? Hi everyone. Unfortunately my family has decided it\u2019s time to put down our dog. It\u2019s been a heartbreaking decision, but it\u2019s right one.   We have an at home euthanasia appointment scheduled with our regular vet and they shared a basic what to expect form but I still have a lot of anxiety as we approach the appointment.   Will he be in pain? Will he go potty on himself after he passes? Will he cry or seize or anything big and dramatic? Will it really be like he\u2019s just drifting peacefully to sleep?   He\u2019s my first dog. I\u2019m sad and I\u2019m scared. I just want to know that it won\u2019t be scary for him :(","c_root_id_A":"hz0hfmf","c_root_id_B":"hz0jh8v","created_at_utc_A":1646198011,"created_at_utc_B":1646199159,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"It depends on how they do it but I will assume the standard. No pain is involved. He might be sedated first but even if not, the euthanizia solution renders the animal unconscious first, and then stops the lungs and heart. It takes seconds for him to pass. Yes, he might urinate or defecate. The body (not the brain) sometimes causes a deep breath or two after they are gone which might be scary, but they are not really alive or sensing anything. Their eyes remain open. I hope this helps. Sorry.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. We euthanized our beloved family cat at home last month.  There was a small pinch of pain for the first needle, but she immediately calmed down and was more or less asleep before the final needle.  She had been refusing most food the week she was put to sleep, so there was some bile that came up when she passed (through the corner of her mouth and nostrils).  She did not empty her bladder or bowels, but my other car did urinate when he passed naturally.  They were both laying on puppy pads at their time of passings.  What I can tell you is that it was very quiet, very intimate, and very peaceful.  Keep a towel that smells like home near by for their comfort (and to wrap them up afterwards), and place your baby on a puppy pad if you can.  You won\u2019t notice any messes.  Take lots of pictures and videos beforehand.  Ask the vet for a clipping of their fur and a paw print if possible.  Enjoy what is left of this life together, and know you\u2019ll be together again someday \ud83c\udf08 Hugs OP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1148.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"yytvdg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"* MY PET HAS NOT CONSUMED GRAPES* BUT... I am Looking to read further about grape and raisin toxicity? Any studies you guys, in particular, recommend as reading about the subject, about dose\/toxicity\/sensitivity that sort of thing  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"iwwaapu","c_root_id_B":"iwwa4lu","created_at_utc_A":1668804896,"created_at_utc_B":1668804826,"score_A":46,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Here's an article summarizing the latest breakthrough. Scientists think they now the toxic agent in grapes. There is no known toxic dose largely  because the concentration of tartaric acid will vary from grape to grape based on growing conditions. We do not know which are dogs are most sensitive.   https:\/\/www.aaha.org\/publications\/newstat\/articles\/2021-04\/what-causes-grape-toxicity-in-dogs-playdough-might-have-led-to-a-breakthrough\/","human_ref_B":"Raisin and Grape Toxicosis in Dogs - Toxicology - Merck Veterinary Manual https:\/\/www.merckvetmanual.com\/toxicology\/food-hazards\/raisin-and-grape-toxicosis-in-dogs  https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/full\/10.1111\/jvim.15884  https:\/\/vetnutrition.tufts.edu\/2021\/04\/in-the-news-updates-on-grape-toxicity\/  https:\/\/vcahospitals.com\/know-your-pet\/grape-raisin-and-currant-poisoning-in-dogs  https:\/\/www.vetfolio.com\/learn\/article\/toxicology-brief-grape-and-raisin-toxicity-in-dogs","labels":1,"seconds_difference":70.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eosuov8","c_root_id_B":"eotnd0s","created_at_utc_A":1558829584,"created_at_utc_B":1558844433,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Isn\u2019t a lack of taurine in the diet the issue?","human_ref_B":"Here's the thing. Out of food allergies (much less common than environmental allergies in dogs), something like 90%+ are allergies to the PROTEIN, not the grain. Grains simply aren't a risk for most dogs. So, it really should be weighed like this: would you rather a dog be mildly allergic to the grain in its diet, or have it get heart disease?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14849.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eot8pj4","c_root_id_B":"eotnd0s","created_at_utc_A":1558836916,"created_at_utc_B":1558844433,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"My dog was eating grain free for years. At his last annual check up the vet recommended that I discontinue the grain free food for this very reason.","human_ref_B":"Here's the thing. Out of food allergies (much less common than environmental allergies in dogs), something like 90%+ are allergies to the PROTEIN, not the grain. Grains simply aren't a risk for most dogs. So, it really should be weighed like this: would you rather a dog be mildly allergic to the grain in its diet, or have it get heart disease?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7517.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eotnd0s","c_root_id_B":"eot94p1","created_at_utc_A":1558844433,"created_at_utc_B":1558837128,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Here's the thing. Out of food allergies (much less common than environmental allergies in dogs), something like 90%+ are allergies to the PROTEIN, not the grain. Grains simply aren't a risk for most dogs. So, it really should be weighed like this: would you rather a dog be mildly allergic to the grain in its diet, or have it get heart disease?","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t think we will ever know how many dogs eat grain-free foods and go on to develop DCM vs those that don\u2019t. I can say we (cardiology service at a university in a major metropolitan area) are seeing affected dogs to the tune of multiple per week, and we are currently booked into mid-August with a waitlist 70 deep. On another note, WHY do people insist on feeding the same brand that got their dog into this mess? Say they\u2019re feeding MutriSource grain free. A lot of people are switching to MutriSource chicken and brown rice. I don\u2019t get it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7305.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eotnd0s","c_root_id_B":"eotguaa","created_at_utc_A":1558844433,"created_at_utc_B":1558840885,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Here's the thing. Out of food allergies (much less common than environmental allergies in dogs), something like 90%+ are allergies to the PROTEIN, not the grain. Grains simply aren't a risk for most dogs. So, it really should be weighed like this: would you rather a dog be mildly allergic to the grain in its diet, or have it get heart disease?","human_ref_B":"Is there anything negative about feeding cats grain-free?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3548.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eotsgei","c_root_id_B":"eot8pj4","created_at_utc_A":1558847461,"created_at_utc_B":1558836916,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm in the Houston area and took a pup to cardiologist Vet specialist yesterday. I was told by the Vet to stop the breeders recommended grain free diet & start regular purina puppy chow. Was told they see many with DCM and some resolve to normal once the diet is changed.","human_ref_B":"My dog was eating grain free for years. At his last annual check up the vet recommended that I discontinue the grain free food for this very reason.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10545.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eot94p1","c_root_id_B":"eotsgei","created_at_utc_A":1558837128,"created_at_utc_B":1558847461,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t think we will ever know how many dogs eat grain-free foods and go on to develop DCM vs those that don\u2019t. I can say we (cardiology service at a university in a major metropolitan area) are seeing affected dogs to the tune of multiple per week, and we are currently booked into mid-August with a waitlist 70 deep. On another note, WHY do people insist on feeding the same brand that got their dog into this mess? Say they\u2019re feeding MutriSource grain free. A lot of people are switching to MutriSource chicken and brown rice. I don\u2019t get it.","human_ref_B":"I'm in the Houston area and took a pup to cardiologist Vet specialist yesterday. I was told by the Vet to stop the breeders recommended grain free diet & start regular purina puppy chow. Was told they see many with DCM and some resolve to normal once the diet is changed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10333.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"bsy0gl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"DCM among dogs on grain-free food. Prevalence? Hi folks, I\u2019m curious about this issue. I\u2019ve been hearing that grain-free dog food has been related to cases of Dilated cardio-myopathy (?) leading to the deaths of dogs. How prevalent is this issue?  Asking out of curiosity as I\u2019ve seen talk of it a lot recently in online communities. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"eotguaa","c_root_id_B":"eotsgei","created_at_utc_A":1558840885,"created_at_utc_B":1558847461,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is there anything negative about feeding cats grain-free?","human_ref_B":"I'm in the Houston area and took a pup to cardiologist Vet specialist yesterday. I was told by the Vet to stop the breeders recommended grain free diet & start regular purina puppy chow. Was told they see many with DCM and some resolve to normal once the diet is changed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6576.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"putp48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"If dogs and cats are carnivores, why are so many commercial pet foods laden with fruit, vegetables and grains? Is it helpful or just marketing towards more health conscious buyers? I absolutely believe our pets should be eating quality food. I\u2019m just not sure what\u2019s a waste of money because they\u2019re unable to digest certain foods. Kind of like \u201coverdosing\u201d on vitamins. At a certain point, our bodies can\u2019t digest a too high vitamin intake and it\u2019s just flushed out as waste.","c_root_id_A":"he5uzdi","c_root_id_B":"he5cw60","created_at_utc_A":1632531063,"created_at_utc_B":1632522775,"score_A":87,"score_B":86,"human_ref_A":"Cats are true carnivores. Dogs are omnivores. They will actually get very sick on a meat only diet.","human_ref_B":"Canines aren't \"true carnivores\". Even in the wild, wolves will eat a lot of berries and other non-meat products.    It's basically just marketing. Most of these boutique food companies don't even have a veterinary nutritionist (or a veterinarian) on staff to formulate the diets. Their sales rely on talking people into falling for buzzwords that don't have any sort of regulation behind them.    Feed a food that meets (or exceeds) the AAFCO guidelines and you'll be fine.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8288.0,"score_ratio":1.011627907}
{"post_id":"putp48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"If dogs and cats are carnivores, why are so many commercial pet foods laden with fruit, vegetables and grains? Is it helpful or just marketing towards more health conscious buyers? I absolutely believe our pets should be eating quality food. I\u2019m just not sure what\u2019s a waste of money because they\u2019re unable to digest certain foods. Kind of like \u201coverdosing\u201d on vitamins. At a certain point, our bodies can\u2019t digest a too high vitamin intake and it\u2019s just flushed out as waste.","c_root_id_A":"he5trs4","c_root_id_B":"he5uzdi","created_at_utc_A":1632530497,"created_at_utc_B":1632531063,"score_A":6,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Carnivores also consume some of the gut contents of herbivores. This is a small percentage of the diet, but one reason I\u2019ve been given for plant matter in dog and cat foods.","human_ref_B":"Cats are true carnivores. Dogs are omnivores. They will actually get very sick on a meat only diet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":566.0,"score_ratio":14.5}
{"post_id":"putp48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"If dogs and cats are carnivores, why are so many commercial pet foods laden with fruit, vegetables and grains? Is it helpful or just marketing towards more health conscious buyers? I absolutely believe our pets should be eating quality food. I\u2019m just not sure what\u2019s a waste of money because they\u2019re unable to digest certain foods. Kind of like \u201coverdosing\u201d on vitamins. At a certain point, our bodies can\u2019t digest a too high vitamin intake and it\u2019s just flushed out as waste.","c_root_id_A":"he5x6la","c_root_id_B":"he5trs4","created_at_utc_A":1632532085,"created_at_utc_B":1632530497,"score_A":28,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If you want a high quality food for your pet then look for what the veterinary nutritionists are recommending (ie people who have trained as a veterinarian and then achieved additional qualifications in nutrition). Also look for companies that test and publish data on the benefits of their diets.   Echoing what others have said, that dogs are omnivores. Your dog is not a wolf, it's ancestors evolved alongside humans and ate scraps from the fireside.   Also important to note that \"natural\" isn't necessarily healthiest or what will give the best long term outcome. In the wild our pets ancestors had diseases that we don't tolerate in our pets.","human_ref_B":"Carnivores also consume some of the gut contents of herbivores. This is a small percentage of the diet, but one reason I\u2019ve been given for plant matter in dog and cat foods.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1588.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"putp48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"If dogs and cats are carnivores, why are so many commercial pet foods laden with fruit, vegetables and grains? Is it helpful or just marketing towards more health conscious buyers? I absolutely believe our pets should be eating quality food. I\u2019m just not sure what\u2019s a waste of money because they\u2019re unable to digest certain foods. Kind of like \u201coverdosing\u201d on vitamins. At a certain point, our bodies can\u2019t digest a too high vitamin intake and it\u2019s just flushed out as waste.","c_root_id_A":"he5trs4","c_root_id_B":"he7yggs","created_at_utc_A":1632530497,"created_at_utc_B":1632577393,"score_A":6,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Carnivores also consume some of the gut contents of herbivores. This is a small percentage of the diet, but one reason I\u2019ve been given for plant matter in dog and cat foods.","human_ref_B":"The idea that the diets animals evolved to eat in the wild promote long-term health is wrong. Animals evolved to pop out as many offspring as quickly as possible and then die of some preventable disease or another, and the diets they eat in the wild are optimized for that, not for healthy longevity.   Evolution cares about fertility at the expense of long-term health, and as such \"natural diets\" aren't a great argument.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":46896.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv2d15j","c_root_id_B":"iv2kn8y","created_at_utc_A":1667589903,"created_at_utc_B":1667592958,"score_A":113,"score_B":174,"human_ref_A":"pregnancy does not eliminate the chance of getting cancer.","human_ref_B":"This is a myth, and it's a bad one! The best thing you can do to prevent cancer in your dog is to spay her, preferably before she has puppies.   Spaying your dog will remove multiple organs that could potentially become cancerous (two ovaries and a uterus) and drastically reduces the risk of mammary cancer in her future. :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3055.0,"score_ratio":1.5398230088}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv2kn8y","c_root_id_B":"iv2bohx","created_at_utc_A":1667592958,"created_at_utc_B":1667589358,"score_A":174,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"This is a myth, and it's a bad one! The best thing you can do to prevent cancer in your dog is to spay her, preferably before she has puppies.   Spaying your dog will remove multiple organs that could potentially become cancerous (two ovaries and a uterus) and drastically reduces the risk of mammary cancer in her future. :)","human_ref_B":"Anyone can get cancer for anything","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3600.0,"score_ratio":2.0963855422}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv2iwxw","c_root_id_B":"iv2kn8y","created_at_utc_A":1667592264,"created_at_utc_B":1667592958,"score_A":18,"score_B":174,"human_ref_A":"No, it is not true.","human_ref_B":"This is a myth, and it's a bad one! The best thing you can do to prevent cancer in your dog is to spay her, preferably before she has puppies.   Spaying your dog will remove multiple organs that could potentially become cancerous (two ovaries and a uterus) and drastically reduces the risk of mammary cancer in her future. :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":694.0,"score_ratio":9.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv2bohx","c_root_id_B":"iv2d15j","created_at_utc_A":1667589358,"created_at_utc_B":1667589903,"score_A":83,"score_B":113,"human_ref_A":"Anyone can get cancer for anything","human_ref_B":"pregnancy does not eliminate the chance of getting cancer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":545.0,"score_ratio":1.3614457831}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv36764","c_root_id_B":"iv2p72e","created_at_utc_A":1667602248,"created_at_utc_B":1667594786,"score_A":17,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"So can you! If you have an organ...it can develop cancer! \ud83d\ude01\ud83d\ude09","human_ref_B":"No, it\u2019s a silly and harmful myth.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7462.0,"score_ratio":1.0625}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv426dl","c_root_id_B":"iv4ai5c","created_at_utc_A":1667617789,"created_at_utc_B":1667622697,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"They\u2019re at heightened risk of cancer if they\u2019re left intact. Get her spayed.","human_ref_B":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4908.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv426dl","c_root_id_B":"iv3wbth","created_at_utc_A":1667617789,"created_at_utc_B":1667614708,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"They\u2019re at heightened risk of cancer if they\u2019re left intact. Get her spayed.","human_ref_B":"This is not true whatsoever and is the biggest myth out there. Your dog can get cancer from anything no matter the gender. Some dogs are even more prone to it then others. Your dog is completely ok. Speaking of which, most people prefer their dog spayed and do it once they get them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3081.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv426dl","c_root_id_B":"iv3y61n","created_at_utc_A":1667617789,"created_at_utc_B":1667615643,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"They\u2019re at heightened risk of cancer if they\u2019re left intact. Get her spayed.","human_ref_B":"My family\u2019s female dog got cancer and died anyway. Having a pregnancy does not preclude anyone\/anything from getting cancer.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2146.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3usez","c_root_id_B":"iv426dl","created_at_utc_A":1667613937,"created_at_utc_B":1667617789,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","human_ref_B":"They\u2019re at heightened risk of cancer if they\u2019re left intact. Get her spayed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3852.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3wbth","c_root_id_B":"iv4ai5c","created_at_utc_A":1667614708,"created_at_utc_B":1667622697,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"This is not true whatsoever and is the biggest myth out there. Your dog can get cancer from anything no matter the gender. Some dogs are even more prone to it then others. Your dog is completely ok. Speaking of which, most people prefer their dog spayed and do it once they get them.","human_ref_B":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7989.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3n13o","c_root_id_B":"iv4ai5c","created_at_utc_A":1667610082,"created_at_utc_B":1667622697,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Never heard this one lol","human_ref_B":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12615.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3y61n","c_root_id_B":"iv4ai5c","created_at_utc_A":1667615643,"created_at_utc_B":1667622697,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"My family\u2019s female dog got cancer and died anyway. Having a pregnancy does not preclude anyone\/anything from getting cancer.","human_ref_B":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7054.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv45952","c_root_id_B":"iv4ai5c","created_at_utc_A":1667619522,"created_at_utc_B":1667622697,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Female dogs can have false pregnancy and lactate the milk can get stuck in udders causing dog to get tumors. Its possible.  And it has happened to an unspayed dog i had","human_ref_B":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3175.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv4ai5c","c_root_id_B":"iv3usez","created_at_utc_A":1667622697,"created_at_utc_B":1667613937,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Who said that?! That\u2019s some Home Breeder propaganda bullshit LOL","human_ref_B":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8760.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3wbth","c_root_id_B":"iv3usez","created_at_utc_A":1667614708,"created_at_utc_B":1667613937,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This is not true whatsoever and is the biggest myth out there. Your dog can get cancer from anything no matter the gender. Some dogs are even more prone to it then others. Your dog is completely ok. Speaking of which, most people prefer their dog spayed and do it once they get them.","human_ref_B":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":771.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv3usez","c_root_id_B":"iv3y61n","created_at_utc_A":1667613937,"created_at_utc_B":1667615643,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","human_ref_B":"My family\u2019s female dog got cancer and died anyway. Having a pregnancy does not preclude anyone\/anything from getting cancer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1706.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv4lwm4","c_root_id_B":"iv45952","created_at_utc_A":1667631438,"created_at_utc_B":1667619522,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Actually, the opposite.  Every time a female goes into heat, it increases her chances of getting cancer later.","human_ref_B":"Female dogs can have false pregnancy and lactate the milk can get stuck in udders causing dog to get tumors. Its possible.  And it has happened to an unspayed dog i had","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11916.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv4lwm4","c_root_id_B":"iv3usez","created_at_utc_A":1667631438,"created_at_utc_B":1667613937,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Actually, the opposite.  Every time a female goes into heat, it increases her chances of getting cancer later.","human_ref_B":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17501.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ym797n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I am told that my female dog can get cancer if they don't get pregnant, is it true? .","c_root_id_A":"iv45952","c_root_id_B":"iv3usez","created_at_utc_A":1667619522,"created_at_utc_B":1667613937,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Female dogs can have false pregnancy and lactate the milk can get stuck in udders causing dog to get tumors. Its possible.  And it has happened to an unspayed dog i had","human_ref_B":"They can get double cancer if they do get pregnant.  \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5585.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iybkof6","c_root_id_B":"iyaurgu","created_at_utc_A":1669782027,"created_at_utc_B":1669769739,"score_A":47,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I just want to point out your personal information is on the records. I'm sorry for your loss, I hope you're finding closure.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12288.0,"score_ratio":3.6153846154}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyb8lws","c_root_id_B":"iybkof6","created_at_utc_A":1669776072,"created_at_utc_B":1669782027,"score_A":9,"score_B":47,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for this I too have lost an animal to something similar to this.","human_ref_B":"I just want to point out your personal information is on the records. I'm sorry for your loss, I hope you're finding closure.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5955.0,"score_ratio":5.2222222222}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iybkof6","c_root_id_B":"iyay5ej","created_at_utc_A":1669782027,"created_at_utc_B":1669771283,"score_A":47,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I just want to point out your personal information is on the records. I'm sorry for your loss, I hope you're finding closure.","human_ref_B":"Condolences and prayers","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10744.0,"score_ratio":5.875}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyb5rk3","c_root_id_B":"iybkof6","created_at_utc_A":1669774786,"created_at_utc_B":1669782027,"score_A":4,"score_B":47,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry. Sending love to you all. \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I just want to point out your personal information is on the records. I'm sorry for your loss, I hope you're finding closure.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7241.0,"score_ratio":11.75}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyc7q90","c_root_id_B":"iyb8lws","created_at_utc_A":1669798201,"created_at_utc_B":1669776072,"score_A":10,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet but your dog was very very sick. He had b lines in his lungs which means he probably had fluids in his lungs. Abdominal effusion also means fluids in his abdomen. Respiratory and metabolic acidosis mean that his lungs couldn't remove enough CO2 and his kidneys didn't filter all the toxins, which led them to build up in his organism and caused the azotemia. Hyperglycemia is too much sugar in blood and hyperlactatemia is too much lactate. The last one appears with some serious illnesses such as sepsis or cardiogenic shock. Elevated ALT means that his liver was damaged (hepatitis, cirrhosis, cancer...). His heart wasn\u00b4t working properly and had a mass in his abdomen too. As I said I'm no expert so if I've gotten anything wrong, please correct me. I'm really sorry for your loss, I'm sure he lived a long happy life and full of love.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for this I too have lost an animal to something similar to this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22129.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyc7q90","c_root_id_B":"iyay5ej","created_at_utc_A":1669798201,"created_at_utc_B":1669771283,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet but your dog was very very sick. He had b lines in his lungs which means he probably had fluids in his lungs. Abdominal effusion also means fluids in his abdomen. Respiratory and metabolic acidosis mean that his lungs couldn't remove enough CO2 and his kidneys didn't filter all the toxins, which led them to build up in his organism and caused the azotemia. Hyperglycemia is too much sugar in blood and hyperlactatemia is too much lactate. The last one appears with some serious illnesses such as sepsis or cardiogenic shock. Elevated ALT means that his liver was damaged (hepatitis, cirrhosis, cancer...). His heart wasn\u00b4t working properly and had a mass in his abdomen too. As I said I'm no expert so if I've gotten anything wrong, please correct me. I'm really sorry for your loss, I'm sure he lived a long happy life and full of love.","human_ref_B":"Condolences and prayers","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26918.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyc7q90","c_root_id_B":"iyb5rk3","created_at_utc_A":1669798201,"created_at_utc_B":1669774786,"score_A":10,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet but your dog was very very sick. He had b lines in his lungs which means he probably had fluids in his lungs. Abdominal effusion also means fluids in his abdomen. Respiratory and metabolic acidosis mean that his lungs couldn't remove enough CO2 and his kidneys didn't filter all the toxins, which led them to build up in his organism and caused the azotemia. Hyperglycemia is too much sugar in blood and hyperlactatemia is too much lactate. The last one appears with some serious illnesses such as sepsis or cardiogenic shock. Elevated ALT means that his liver was damaged (hepatitis, cirrhosis, cancer...). His heart wasn\u00b4t working properly and had a mass in his abdomen too. As I said I'm no expert so if I've gotten anything wrong, please correct me. I'm really sorry for your loss, I'm sure he lived a long happy life and full of love.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry. Sending love to you all. \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23415.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyb8lws","c_root_id_B":"iyay5ej","created_at_utc_A":1669776072,"created_at_utc_B":1669771283,"score_A":9,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for this I too have lost an animal to something similar to this.","human_ref_B":"Condolences and prayers","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4789.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"z7xfu0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My dog passed away and I'd like to try to understand why So my almost 18 year old dog passed away very suddenly a month ago today. Right after his usual half mile walk (where he was peppy and normal), he started acting odd and lethargic in the car. Upon coming home, he went into shock (which I didn't recognize at the time). After about a half hour, I took him to the vet where he arrested.  I am so grateful to have had so much time with him, just looking for some closure. Leading up to the event, he was vomiting very often. Our vet put him on Cerenia to help him keep food down which certainly masked the real problem.   I have a detailed report from the vet where he passed. I'm trying to read through it but don't understand any of it. If you have any hints as to what might have happened based on this document (linked below) it would mean the world to my wife and me.  Clinical summary: https:\/\/we.tl\/t-hAQnQTMmKR","c_root_id_A":"iyb8lws","c_root_id_B":"iyb5rk3","created_at_utc_A":1669776072,"created_at_utc_B":1669774786,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for this I too have lost an animal to something similar to this.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry. Sending love to you all. \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1286.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"x9vvqr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Orphan kitten born today. How to feed and help it survive. A cat gave birth to 4 kittens and left 2 on our front porch. We don't have any cat food and it's night time so can't buy anything. We have created a warm box and placed them in there. But what can we feed them?","c_root_id_A":"inq5om1","c_root_id_B":"inq5mte","created_at_utc_A":1662731298,"created_at_utc_B":1662731276,"score_A":15,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"From the FAQ section of this subreddit, here are instructions on how to care for neo-natal kittens. And this other guide, from Alley Cat Allies, contains a recipe for making emergency kitten milk (scroll down). Good luck!","human_ref_B":"From the FAQ:  * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/bmnqoh\/meta\\_its\\_kitten\\_season\\_you\\_found\\_a\\_litter\\_of\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/8exhwf\/meta\\_its\\_kitten\\_season\\_you\\_found\\_orphaned\\_kittens\/  More resources:  * Training * More Training * Troubleshooting * Emergency Kitten Formula Replacer recipes until you can get real KMR * Feeding Amounts * Miracle Nipples (original kitten size)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"g86j9v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Why does my cat always meow at night? (And how to get this to stop) Hi   Female cat, 2 years old, fixed, I'm in Canada.   For about one month now, my cat starts meowing around 10pm and doesn't stop until 2-3am. She has another cat to play with and gets tired out during the day, I don't think she is meowing because she is bored. I am also not sleeping at this time and she doesn't meow when I'm in bed & sleeping. She doesn't even come to me when she meows, she's just walking around the room or going into the bathroom (I live in a bachelor apartment). She's not meowing to be fed because she has food out in her bowl at all times.   Nothing seems to be off, she's eating\/drinking\/urinating fine. She's always been a more vocal cat, but for the past month it has been very excessive at night.   I'm hoping someone has some advice on what I can to do get the meowing to stop and some insight as to why she's meowing.","c_root_id_A":"folyarp","c_root_id_B":"folwoj1","created_at_utc_A":1587873426,"created_at_utc_B":1587872288,"score_A":67,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I would suggest rigorous, one on one play. Cats operate in a cycle of hunt, play, kill, eat, sleep. Meaning in nature they hunt for prey, then play with it, then kill it, and so forth. By giving kitty free access to food you bypass this process. So, be sure to institute structured play to instill this cycle and have your cat sleep at appropriate times and avoid bordem.","human_ref_B":"Just give your vet a call and they will know the questions to ask you to see if anything is up. She might be trying to tell you something.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1138.0,"score_ratio":9.5714285714}
{"post_id":"g86j9v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Why does my cat always meow at night? (And how to get this to stop) Hi   Female cat, 2 years old, fixed, I'm in Canada.   For about one month now, my cat starts meowing around 10pm and doesn't stop until 2-3am. She has another cat to play with and gets tired out during the day, I don't think she is meowing because she is bored. I am also not sleeping at this time and she doesn't meow when I'm in bed & sleeping. She doesn't even come to me when she meows, she's just walking around the room or going into the bathroom (I live in a bachelor apartment). She's not meowing to be fed because she has food out in her bowl at all times.   Nothing seems to be off, she's eating\/drinking\/urinating fine. She's always been a more vocal cat, but for the past month it has been very excessive at night.   I'm hoping someone has some advice on what I can to do get the meowing to stop and some insight as to why she's meowing.","c_root_id_A":"fom50h1","c_root_id_B":"fomsi48","created_at_utc_A":1587878501,"created_at_utc_B":1587902290,"score_A":7,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Has she been spayed?","human_ref_B":"1. Try playtime a few times throughout the day, especially before bed. Cats need to have their hunting instinct filled, with short bursts of hunt, then eat. Free feeding is the opposite of their natural behavior.  2. Have you gotten up, talked to the cat, or otherwise acknowledged the behavior? If she's looking for attention, you might accidentally be positively reinforcing her. Ignore the meowing, no matter how difficult it is! It might get worse for a bit (extinction burst), but persevere and it should mostly stop!  Source: not a vet, but work with cats. The book Total Cat Mojo is very good if you want to learn why your cat does various behaviors.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23789.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"g86j9v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Why does my cat always meow at night? (And how to get this to stop) Hi   Female cat, 2 years old, fixed, I'm in Canada.   For about one month now, my cat starts meowing around 10pm and doesn't stop until 2-3am. She has another cat to play with and gets tired out during the day, I don't think she is meowing because she is bored. I am also not sleeping at this time and she doesn't meow when I'm in bed & sleeping. She doesn't even come to me when she meows, she's just walking around the room or going into the bathroom (I live in a bachelor apartment). She's not meowing to be fed because she has food out in her bowl at all times.   Nothing seems to be off, she's eating\/drinking\/urinating fine. She's always been a more vocal cat, but for the past month it has been very excessive at night.   I'm hoping someone has some advice on what I can to do get the meowing to stop and some insight as to why she's meowing.","c_root_id_A":"fomsi48","c_root_id_B":"folwoj1","created_at_utc_A":1587902290,"created_at_utc_B":1587872288,"score_A":17,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"1. Try playtime a few times throughout the day, especially before bed. Cats need to have their hunting instinct filled, with short bursts of hunt, then eat. Free feeding is the opposite of their natural behavior.  2. Have you gotten up, talked to the cat, or otherwise acknowledged the behavior? If she's looking for attention, you might accidentally be positively reinforcing her. Ignore the meowing, no matter how difficult it is! It might get worse for a bit (extinction burst), but persevere and it should mostly stop!  Source: not a vet, but work with cats. The book Total Cat Mojo is very good if you want to learn why your cat does various behaviors.","human_ref_B":"Just give your vet a call and they will know the questions to ask you to see if anything is up. She might be trying to tell you something.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30002.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"xjvvif","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Put down my 2-year-old cat within an hour of being diagnosed with FATE aka Saddle Thrombus. Did I make the right decision? At about 830pm last night, my 2-year-old male cat (American Shorthair) suddenly started yelping in pain, then couldn't use his hind legs. At first, only 1 of his hind legs was numb, & the other he had partial use. But within about 5 minutes, both of his hind legs were completely limp & dragging behind him as he slowly tried to crawl across the room. He also started breathing heavily & panting. Before this, he seemed healthy, & we would always talk about how he's never had any kind of medical issues, but looking back, he had been a little more lethargic\/lazy the past couple months.   &#x200B;  By 9:15pm we had him at the vet ER, & by 930pm the doctor had diagnosed him with FATE (Feline Aortic Thromboembolism) aka a Saddle Thrombus, & was recommending euthanasia. I had never heard of this condition & didn't have much time to read about it, but she was strongly pushing towards euthanasia. After reading more about FATE, I feel a little bit better about the decision, but part of me wishes we had fought it. On the upside, he was only 2.5 years old, & we had gotten him to the vet within 1 hour. But his case was certainly severe. Complete loss of function in both legs (cold & blue), difficulty breathing, etc. He was just so young & it caught us by such surprise. While the vet got him on oxygen & pain meds we had a few minutes to consider our option, but she was really pushing euthanasia, & said that fighting it was a real nightmare for all, & even if he had a good recovery, he would be in tremendous pain, & we'd basically just be waiting around for him to get another clot, which would be the end.  &#x200B;  Did we make the right\/reasonable decision? I'm sure people doubt their decisions all the time after euthanizing, but I feel like we gave up on him. He was fighting all the way until the end, even while the euthanasia was being administered. I just didn't want him to be in pain & suffer a slow painful death, which seemed likely, but part of me wishes we didn't give up so quickly.      Has anyone else dealt with this condition, or known someone who has? What was the experience? Thanks in advance for any replies","c_root_id_A":"ipclyd0","c_root_id_B":"ipcon1n","created_at_utc_A":1663777863,"created_at_utc_B":1663778851,"score_A":12,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Yes. So sorry for your loss. You did the right thing.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry, FATE is such an awful thing. As someone who\u2019s dealt with it in the ER I\u2019m sure you made the right choice. The realistic chance of full recovery and a normal-length life after this would be minuscule.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":988.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"xjvvif","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Put down my 2-year-old cat within an hour of being diagnosed with FATE aka Saddle Thrombus. Did I make the right decision? At about 830pm last night, my 2-year-old male cat (American Shorthair) suddenly started yelping in pain, then couldn't use his hind legs. At first, only 1 of his hind legs was numb, & the other he had partial use. But within about 5 minutes, both of his hind legs were completely limp & dragging behind him as he slowly tried to crawl across the room. He also started breathing heavily & panting. Before this, he seemed healthy, & we would always talk about how he's never had any kind of medical issues, but looking back, he had been a little more lethargic\/lazy the past couple months.   &#x200B;  By 9:15pm we had him at the vet ER, & by 930pm the doctor had diagnosed him with FATE (Feline Aortic Thromboembolism) aka a Saddle Thrombus, & was recommending euthanasia. I had never heard of this condition & didn't have much time to read about it, but she was strongly pushing towards euthanasia. After reading more about FATE, I feel a little bit better about the decision, but part of me wishes we had fought it. On the upside, he was only 2.5 years old, & we had gotten him to the vet within 1 hour. But his case was certainly severe. Complete loss of function in both legs (cold & blue), difficulty breathing, etc. He was just so young & it caught us by such surprise. While the vet got him on oxygen & pain meds we had a few minutes to consider our option, but she was really pushing euthanasia, & said that fighting it was a real nightmare for all, & even if he had a good recovery, he would be in tremendous pain, & we'd basically just be waiting around for him to get another clot, which would be the end.  &#x200B;  Did we make the right\/reasonable decision? I'm sure people doubt their decisions all the time after euthanizing, but I feel like we gave up on him. He was fighting all the way until the end, even while the euthanasia was being administered. I just didn't want him to be in pain & suffer a slow painful death, which seemed likely, but part of me wishes we didn't give up so quickly.      Has anyone else dealt with this condition, or known someone who has? What was the experience? Thanks in advance for any replies","c_root_id_A":"ipcmcau","c_root_id_B":"ipcon1n","created_at_utc_A":1663778007,"created_at_utc_B":1663778851,"score_A":12,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss. My ginger sweetheart passed away from this and she was in excruciating pain. We knew she had heart problems but the medicine couldn't save her when this happened. I rushed her to the closet vet and she passed away. You're a wonderful care taker and I'm so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry, FATE is such an awful thing. As someone who\u2019s dealt with it in the ER I\u2019m sure you made the right choice. The realistic chance of full recovery and a normal-length life after this would be minuscule.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":844.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"xjvvif","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Put down my 2-year-old cat within an hour of being diagnosed with FATE aka Saddle Thrombus. Did I make the right decision? At about 830pm last night, my 2-year-old male cat (American Shorthair) suddenly started yelping in pain, then couldn't use his hind legs. At first, only 1 of his hind legs was numb, & the other he had partial use. But within about 5 minutes, both of his hind legs were completely limp & dragging behind him as he slowly tried to crawl across the room. He also started breathing heavily & panting. Before this, he seemed healthy, & we would always talk about how he's never had any kind of medical issues, but looking back, he had been a little more lethargic\/lazy the past couple months.   &#x200B;  By 9:15pm we had him at the vet ER, & by 930pm the doctor had diagnosed him with FATE (Feline Aortic Thromboembolism) aka a Saddle Thrombus, & was recommending euthanasia. I had never heard of this condition & didn't have much time to read about it, but she was strongly pushing towards euthanasia. After reading more about FATE, I feel a little bit better about the decision, but part of me wishes we had fought it. On the upside, he was only 2.5 years old, & we had gotten him to the vet within 1 hour. But his case was certainly severe. Complete loss of function in both legs (cold & blue), difficulty breathing, etc. He was just so young & it caught us by such surprise. While the vet got him on oxygen & pain meds we had a few minutes to consider our option, but she was really pushing euthanasia, & said that fighting it was a real nightmare for all, & even if he had a good recovery, he would be in tremendous pain, & we'd basically just be waiting around for him to get another clot, which would be the end.  &#x200B;  Did we make the right\/reasonable decision? I'm sure people doubt their decisions all the time after euthanizing, but I feel like we gave up on him. He was fighting all the way until the end, even while the euthanasia was being administered. I just didn't want him to be in pain & suffer a slow painful death, which seemed likely, but part of me wishes we didn't give up so quickly.      Has anyone else dealt with this condition, or known someone who has? What was the experience? Thanks in advance for any replies","c_root_id_A":"ipdh2ga","c_root_id_B":"ipewo9m","created_at_utc_A":1663789450,"created_at_utc_B":1663811083,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes, you did. I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Yes you made the right decision. Also, I think that no vet would push for euthanasia unless it was really the best option. \u2764\ufe0f I hope you feel better soon.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21633.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"vsj3fw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"From an arborist to veterinarians: how do you deal with tough calls and mistakes? Hope this is okay to post here, I\u2019m really interested in some cross-industry insight. I\u2019m an arborist who has enough experience to generally know what the textbook answer is, but living things are often not textbook and there are times I have to make very difficult calls with no clear answer. I have deep respect for trees and want to help them live a full life as much as possible; tree lives to me are equal to animal lives for you folk.  I\u2019m reaching out because I had several roommates in university studying veterinarian medicine, and I know they received a lot of training on medical ethics and these sorts of difficult issues. I\u2019ve never had an equivalent education to this, and sometimes I lay awake at night thinking about all the what-ifs for major tough calls I\u2019ve had to make (or even worse, mistakes I\u2019ve made that almost definitely ruined the remaining life of the tree). I have some projects happening this week where I know difficult decisions are going to have to be made, and I know no matter what I do I\u2019m going to be thinking \u201cwhat if\u201d again. I also know I\u2019m going to make major mistakes in the future and I need to learn how to cope sooner rather than later.  I was wondering if vets here could maybe share some insight gained over their career of working with living things that can\u2019t tell you what\u2019s wrong or how they want to be treated. I know vets as a whole are deeply empathetic people, and part of the reason I\u2019m asking this sub is because unfortunately many arborists do not hold trees in the same value that I do. How do you folks deal with the cold sweats when you have to make a choice like euthanasia vs a risky major surgery? How do you stop ruminating on mistakes and what ifs?","c_root_id_A":"if2s9rk","c_root_id_B":"if2soas","created_at_utc_A":1657117099,"created_at_utc_B":1657117271,"score_A":14,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but I really like that you came here with this question . Hope you get some good responses. May I suggest that you not stop here and post this in some other subs too.","human_ref_B":"You seem like a really cool person, and I'm sorry you haven't gotten very many replies. You might try heading over to \/r\/veterinarians or \/r\/veterinaryprofession to see if you get any more hits.  That being said, as a whole, our industry suffers from very high levels of suicide. We struggle with work\/life balance, being over worked and underpaid, and the guilt that comes with the subject of your post. Many of us learn to compartmentalize so that work stays at work.   Personally, I allow myself a few minutes of decompress time with my partner after work. You know, the standard, \"how did your day go?\" If I feel the need to keep talking about it, I know that it's something I've emotionally latched on to and needs addressing. I recognize that I'm human and I'll inevitably make mistakes, but I should always learn a lesson about how to never do it again.   Therapy has been enormously beneficial. Getting a better understanding of my anxiety and how it works has kept it mostly at bay. And that would be my suggestion for you. Find someone who is used to working with people in high stress, emotional fields. They can take the time to help you work through how to make those tough decisions and the emotions associated with them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":172.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"uctlqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is a veterinarian that specializes in cats worth it, or just a gimmick? I'm trying to select a new veterinarian for my two cats. Veterinarian 1 was quite nice, sent home a goody bag of stuff including a laser pointer, various booklets for services like insurance, free sample of flee protection. But I got the impression that the office saw mostly dogs based on some comments by the nurse. They were also dogs in the waiting room barking, which I think stressed my cat (we had to go a few times for various reasons). Although that cat would be stressed regardless, the dogs didn't help.   Vet 2 is one that advertises that they only treat cats. The staff seemed less friendly, although the office was very quiet and calm. No extras like the first vet.  I'm trying to decide which office to continue going to. Do specialized offices actually offer better care or is it just a marketing thing?   Two cats, one neutered male, 6. One new kitten. No health problems yet","c_root_id_A":"i6ctil6","c_root_id_B":"i6csxki","created_at_utc_A":1651029295,"created_at_utc_B":1651029011,"score_A":39,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s not marketing. There may or may not be better care at the feline vet. Not having dogs around to stress out the cats is a big plus for many people as you say. Only seeing cats means they could be better versed in cat diseases but IMO a vet at another office could be just as proficient. On average I think a feline only vet is the more reliable option but it just comes down to the individual, how you get along, how the office functions, etc.   Also, some cat only vets do extra training (ABVP certification). It\u2019s not a true specialty but does mean they\u2019ve put extra work in. Some don\u2019t do this but still limit their practice to cats.  If you got a getter vibe from the vet that also sees dogs I\u2019d go there.","human_ref_B":"The gimmick is really just that it's a dog free environment. To some people this is very helpful in bringing their cats to the vet. If you don't think it made too much of a difference with your cats, then it'd probably be worthwhile going to the place who's doctor you like better.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":284.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"uctlqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is a veterinarian that specializes in cats worth it, or just a gimmick? I'm trying to select a new veterinarian for my two cats. Veterinarian 1 was quite nice, sent home a goody bag of stuff including a laser pointer, various booklets for services like insurance, free sample of flee protection. But I got the impression that the office saw mostly dogs based on some comments by the nurse. They were also dogs in the waiting room barking, which I think stressed my cat (we had to go a few times for various reasons). Although that cat would be stressed regardless, the dogs didn't help.   Vet 2 is one that advertises that they only treat cats. The staff seemed less friendly, although the office was very quiet and calm. No extras like the first vet.  I'm trying to decide which office to continue going to. Do specialized offices actually offer better care or is it just a marketing thing?   Two cats, one neutered male, 6. One new kitten. No health problems yet","c_root_id_A":"i6cyke5","c_root_id_B":"i6csxki","created_at_utc_A":1651031897,"created_at_utc_B":1651029011,"score_A":22,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I personally wish that they made more cat only hospitals! I think they're great! In my experience, most staff are not very good at handling cats. I've seen sooooo many people just go straight to scruffing cats without giving them a chance (it makes me so mad but that's another rant for another day) A cat only practice would obviously have staff that know how to handle kitties properly, how to read body language, and then of course you don't have the sounds of barking and whining dogs. I would expect kitty only hospitals to have classical music playing and other things to make them feel more relaxed, like feliway diffusers in the rooms.  If you got a weird vibe the first time, I would give them another chance.  A stressed kitty is not a happy kitty, and cat only practices do their hardest to keep kitties from becoming too stressed.","human_ref_B":"The gimmick is really just that it's a dog free environment. To some people this is very helpful in bringing their cats to the vet. If you don't think it made too much of a difference with your cats, then it'd probably be worthwhile going to the place who's doctor you like better.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2886.0,"score_ratio":1.6923076923}
{"post_id":"uctlqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is a veterinarian that specializes in cats worth it, or just a gimmick? I'm trying to select a new veterinarian for my two cats. Veterinarian 1 was quite nice, sent home a goody bag of stuff including a laser pointer, various booklets for services like insurance, free sample of flee protection. But I got the impression that the office saw mostly dogs based on some comments by the nurse. They were also dogs in the waiting room barking, which I think stressed my cat (we had to go a few times for various reasons). Although that cat would be stressed regardless, the dogs didn't help.   Vet 2 is one that advertises that they only treat cats. The staff seemed less friendly, although the office was very quiet and calm. No extras like the first vet.  I'm trying to decide which office to continue going to. Do specialized offices actually offer better care or is it just a marketing thing?   Two cats, one neutered male, 6. One new kitten. No health problems yet","c_root_id_A":"i6darcy","c_root_id_B":"i6e5ba5","created_at_utc_A":1651039601,"created_at_utc_B":1651062729,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm an assistant at a cat-only clinic. A lot of cats do better in a dog-free environment. They are less stressed out by the environment around them, which helps us get more accurate information during an exam. Obviously every cat is different, though - and every vet offic. We get tons of cats that are marked as fractious from other clinics that come to ours and are SO much calmer. It sounds like the cat clinic you went to may have to brush up on their bedside manner, so to speak, but don't let it turn you off to the possibility of a cat-only practice forever. I know I love working at one!","human_ref_B":"I wouldn\u2019t base your choice on some random gifts, specially as laser pointers aren\u2019t always a good toy for cats from a behaviour point of view-they never complete the \u201chunt\u201d.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23128.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"uctlqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Is a veterinarian that specializes in cats worth it, or just a gimmick? I'm trying to select a new veterinarian for my two cats. Veterinarian 1 was quite nice, sent home a goody bag of stuff including a laser pointer, various booklets for services like insurance, free sample of flee protection. But I got the impression that the office saw mostly dogs based on some comments by the nurse. They were also dogs in the waiting room barking, which I think stressed my cat (we had to go a few times for various reasons). Although that cat would be stressed regardless, the dogs didn't help.   Vet 2 is one that advertises that they only treat cats. The staff seemed less friendly, although the office was very quiet and calm. No extras like the first vet.  I'm trying to decide which office to continue going to. Do specialized offices actually offer better care or is it just a marketing thing?   Two cats, one neutered male, 6. One new kitten. No health problems yet","c_root_id_A":"i6el05p","c_root_id_B":"i6darcy","created_at_utc_A":1651069825,"created_at_utc_B":1651039601,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It has nothing to do with marketing or better care. Cat only vets usually simply means that\u2019s the vet preference. I do like these clinics because they tend to be quiet and less stressful for cats (and often fear free), but regular small animal vets are also fully equipped to take care of cats too.","human_ref_B":"I'm an assistant at a cat-only clinic. A lot of cats do better in a dog-free environment. They are less stressed out by the environment around them, which helps us get more accurate information during an exam. Obviously every cat is different, though - and every vet offic. We get tons of cats that are marked as fractious from other clinics that come to ours and are SO much calmer. It sounds like the cat clinic you went to may have to brush up on their bedside manner, so to speak, but don't let it turn you off to the possibility of a cat-only practice forever. I know I love working at one!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30224.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"4y1j11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I 35F want to change careers and become a Veterinarian. How possible is this? Throwaway account because my boss reddits and I don't want him to see this until I have a plan.  I have been thinking about this for awhile and have decided that I really want to become a Veterinarian and ideally specialize in cardiology or oncology. I have always been interested in medicine and animals and was pre-med\/vet for awhile in college. I would have stayed pre-med\/vet but instead chose to focus on my sport (top D1 team).  At the time I thought I would be able to pay for school (the rest of my pre vet requirements) by graduate assisting coaching and having my classes paid for. There is a long story to why that didn't work out, but it didn't and now here I am at 35 knowing exactly what I want to do and trying to figure out how to make that happen.  Here is what I have figured out so far, I could really use any input or advice on how to make this a reality.  - I need to take about six classes to meet the per-requisites of the school I would like to apply to. I can take all of this classes locally and a family member has offered to pay for them.  - I basically have two schools that I can apply to that if accepted to I wouldn't have to make a major life sacrifice. So I would need to do everything possible to get accepted and still keep a full time job so that I can pay bills... so how possible is this at 35 with a full-time job?  - If it makes a difference to the advice I might receive here I did very well in undergrad and I'm pretty confident I could finish the remaining per-requisites with all A's.  - Assuming I get accepted what is the course load like? Is it something that I could commute to the school, stay for 3-4 days and then head home for a long weekend?  - How hard is it to get student loans for Veterinary school? I would have to pay for this by myself.   - Is there anything else important that I'm not considering?  Thank you in advance for any advice of information.","c_root_id_A":"d6kpnrt","c_root_id_B":"d6kwhyx","created_at_utc_A":1471406902,"created_at_utc_B":1471423991,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"[I'll just leave this here] (http:\/\/source.colostate.edu\/he-schools-young-professors-in-lifelong-learning-he-is-the-oldest-veterinary-student-at-csu\/)","human_ref_B":"My advice would be to really, really, be absolutely sure that this is the thing you want to do. Also consider the following:  * Vet school is hard. I get the feeling you're underestimating the amount of work and time and effort you'll be expected to put in. There will be no sympathy if you want to keep a job - there's after hours work, placements, travel, study, assignments and pracs to do. The few people in my class with families and children got zero leniency to spend time with them. * It will take you an additional 8 years or so to specialize (might be different in the US?). You'll have to pass a lot of exams and do extra work. It will be really, really, REALLY hard, and you'll earn very little in this time period. I know someone who has failed 5 years in a row to pass his specialist exams. This is assuming you pass vet school in the first place. * You will earn very little money anyway. This is on top of the enormous student debt you will be carrying. * On top of all of this, some days you will hate your job and wonder why the hell you're doing it. You will be underappreciated, you will kill things (sometimes by accident) and you'll work long, long hours for very little in return.  If this still sounds appealing... go for it! But you'll be going in with your eyes open, unlike several of my colleagues who are now tour bus operators, landscape gardeners, builders, stay at home parents, consultants, accountants, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17089.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"7zzomt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"is it illegal for someone to represent themselves as a veterinarian if they are not one? if so, what can be done about it? I am in several facebook groups about a certain kind of pet. In these groups is a woman who both tells people she is a vet, and also lists veterinarian as her occupation.  It has been proven several times that she is not a veterinarian. She lives in the US and is not licensed to practice in any state.  She sells and ships people animals which are infected with a certain type of parasite which is highly contagious and can wipe out entire collections of stock within months. I believe that the fact that she falsely represents herself as a vet contributes to her ability to continue to get away with this.  Is there anything that can be done? Can the board of veterinarians in her state take any actions to prevent her from making this false claim?","c_root_id_A":"dus4npt","c_root_id_B":"dus7pde","created_at_utc_A":1519518888,"created_at_utc_B":1519522690,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Out of curiosity, are these animals reptiles?  I second the above anyway, definitely worth reporting this person.","human_ref_B":"Edit: re-read your post. I'm assuming this is someone who works with reptiles? Would you mind sharing the name? The reptile community is pretty tight-knit, so I'm sure that if you posted in a BOI, you could get something to happen.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3802.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"7zzomt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"is it illegal for someone to represent themselves as a veterinarian if they are not one? if so, what can be done about it? I am in several facebook groups about a certain kind of pet. In these groups is a woman who both tells people she is a vet, and also lists veterinarian as her occupation.  It has been proven several times that she is not a veterinarian. She lives in the US and is not licensed to practice in any state.  She sells and ships people animals which are infected with a certain type of parasite which is highly contagious and can wipe out entire collections of stock within months. I believe that the fact that she falsely represents herself as a vet contributes to her ability to continue to get away with this.  Is there anything that can be done? Can the board of veterinarians in her state take any actions to prevent her from making this false claim?","c_root_id_A":"dus4npt","c_root_id_B":"dusi197","created_at_utc_A":1519518888,"created_at_utc_B":1519536165,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Out of curiosity, are these animals reptiles?  I second the above anyway, definitely worth reporting this person.","human_ref_B":"Lol I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about and must be in the same group... Please report her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17277.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27t34e","c_root_id_B":"e27yp0h","created_at_utc_A":1531343389,"created_at_utc_B":1531348119,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"No. If I had to do it over I would not be a vet. It is simply not worth the crippling debt.","human_ref_B":"Its a difficult question, so you wont get a straight forward answer.   I'm a vet in nyc, so from a financial point of view I can tell you that average salaries here are not 80k. Every general practioner I know started over 100k and ER salaries are closer to 140k or more. If you do residency and specialize its pretty easy to clear 200k starting if you work in NYC\/LA.  That being said I started with 300k of debt. Ill never pay off my loans, but on income based repayment I can have a very comfortable life in NYC while still saving for retirement. Ill never be rich, but it really isnt as bad as everyone else makes it sound.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4730.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27yp0h","c_root_id_B":"e27i6th","created_at_utc_A":1531348119,"created_at_utc_B":1531335200,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Its a difficult question, so you wont get a straight forward answer.   I'm a vet in nyc, so from a financial point of view I can tell you that average salaries here are not 80k. Every general practioner I know started over 100k and ER salaries are closer to 140k or more. If you do residency and specialize its pretty easy to clear 200k starting if you work in NYC\/LA.  That being said I started with 300k of debt. Ill never pay off my loans, but on income based repayment I can have a very comfortable life in NYC while still saving for retirement. Ill never be rich, but it really isnt as bad as everyone else makes it sound.","human_ref_B":"Not from a vet perspective, but from a \/r\/personalfinance perspective:  NO.  You're hamstringing yourself in a HUGE way right off the bat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12919.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27yp0h","c_root_id_B":"e27hl0z","created_at_utc_A":1531348119,"created_at_utc_B":1531334747,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Its a difficult question, so you wont get a straight forward answer.   I'm a vet in nyc, so from a financial point of view I can tell you that average salaries here are not 80k. Every general practioner I know started over 100k and ER salaries are closer to 140k or more. If you do residency and specialize its pretty easy to clear 200k starting if you work in NYC\/LA.  That being said I started with 300k of debt. Ill never pay off my loans, but on income based repayment I can have a very comfortable life in NYC while still saving for retirement. Ill never be rich, but it really isnt as bad as everyone else makes it sound.","human_ref_B":"According to the current vet that I work for who owns her own clinic: NO. A big huge NO.  She loved being a vet when she first started and she still loves what she does. However, she lives in a relatively low income situation because of it. She's in her 40s with hundreds of thousands of debt left and she barely makes enough to keep her above Medicaid eligibility.   It has put a huge strain on her life that love of a career cannot make better. It's ridiculous that vets go to school the same amount of time as doctors do, doing similar work, and make so little money.   Her and the average debt to income ratio for vets are what pushed me out of the vet field towards human medicine. I love the veterinary work I do, but it just isn't a good decision financially for me to make it my career.   You will like your career but you will suffer. Maybe enough to where you won't like it so much anymore.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13372.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27yp0h","c_root_id_B":"e27tn3l","created_at_utc_A":1531348119,"created_at_utc_B":1531343829,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Its a difficult question, so you wont get a straight forward answer.   I'm a vet in nyc, so from a financial point of view I can tell you that average salaries here are not 80k. Every general practioner I know started over 100k and ER salaries are closer to 140k or more. If you do residency and specialize its pretty easy to clear 200k starting if you work in NYC\/LA.  That being said I started with 300k of debt. Ill never pay off my loans, but on income based repayment I can have a very comfortable life in NYC while still saving for retirement. Ill never be rich, but it really isnt as bad as everyone else makes it sound.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet personally, but have 2 retired vets in the family - uncle and grandpa. I did general grunt work in my uncle's clinic for a summer in high school. Their situations as far as the financial end of things would be very different than what you'd face in tuition today. Grandpa did well for himself as a small town country vet back in the day. He did projects outside his practice though too, like consulting for Hill's and helping develop the vet tech program at his alma mater. Uncle did ok for most of his life, largely because his wife was his lead tech and business manager so they made it work together. That being said, he recently sold his practice for health reasons and they're not in very good shape for retirement.  Before I spent that summer working for my uncle I  thought becoming a vet was something I wanted to do too. At the age of 15 I didn't have the financial side in mind, but I still left thinking it wasn't for me. I still loved animals, still wanted to help them, but I'll never forget taking care of an entire litter of puppies with parvo. It was my job to take their temperature and clean their cages. The process broke my heart each time, everything that could be done for them was done, and they all died.  Sorry for the rambling downer, but I definitely agree with those who have said to get a job in a clinic to see if it's really for you. If it is, weigh it with your finances. If it's not, you can find something else without putting yourself in massive debt for a career that you'll be unhappy in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4290.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27txxv","c_root_id_B":"e27yp0h","created_at_utc_A":1531344066,"created_at_utc_B":1531348119,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":".... you'll be lucky if all you get is 200k in debt. I and most people I know are over that and closer to 300k, though I went to an out of state school. I'm doing the public service loan forgiveness program, with which (if the current president and education secretary don't get rid of like they've tried to) you can have your debt forgiven after ten years paying while in public service. Setback is you rarely get paid 80k starting in any public service position (academia, govt, nonprofit, ect). Most other plans you can get forgiveness after 25y paying.","human_ref_B":"Its a difficult question, so you wont get a straight forward answer.   I'm a vet in nyc, so from a financial point of view I can tell you that average salaries here are not 80k. Every general practioner I know started over 100k and ER salaries are closer to 140k or more. If you do residency and specialize its pretty easy to clear 200k starting if you work in NYC\/LA.  That being said I started with 300k of debt. Ill never pay off my loans, but on income based repayment I can have a very comfortable life in NYC while still saving for retirement. Ill never be rich, but it really isnt as bad as everyone else makes it sound.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4053.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27t34e","c_root_id_B":"e27tsa8","created_at_utc_A":1531343389,"created_at_utc_B":1531343943,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"No. If I had to do it over I would not be a vet. It is simply not worth the crippling debt.","human_ref_B":"Absolutely not. Source: am vet in 200k debt.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":554.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e28bcdx","c_root_id_B":"e27t34e","created_at_utc_A":1531360327,"created_at_utc_B":1531343389,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","human_ref_B":"No. If I had to do it over I would not be a vet. It is simply not worth the crippling debt.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16938.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27t34e","c_root_id_B":"e27i6th","created_at_utc_A":1531343389,"created_at_utc_B":1531335200,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"No. If I had to do it over I would not be a vet. It is simply not worth the crippling debt.","human_ref_B":"Not from a vet perspective, but from a \/r\/personalfinance perspective:  NO.  You're hamstringing yourself in a HUGE way right off the bat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8189.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27hl0z","c_root_id_B":"e27t34e","created_at_utc_A":1531334747,"created_at_utc_B":1531343389,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"According to the current vet that I work for who owns her own clinic: NO. A big huge NO.  She loved being a vet when she first started and she still loves what she does. However, she lives in a relatively low income situation because of it. She's in her 40s with hundreds of thousands of debt left and she barely makes enough to keep her above Medicaid eligibility.   It has put a huge strain on her life that love of a career cannot make better. It's ridiculous that vets go to school the same amount of time as doctors do, doing similar work, and make so little money.   Her and the average debt to income ratio for vets are what pushed me out of the vet field towards human medicine. I love the veterinary work I do, but it just isn't a good decision financially for me to make it my career.   You will like your career but you will suffer. Maybe enough to where you won't like it so much anymore.","human_ref_B":"No. If I had to do it over I would not be a vet. It is simply not worth the crippling debt.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8642.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27tsa8","c_root_id_B":"e27i6th","created_at_utc_A":1531343943,"created_at_utc_B":1531335200,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not. Source: am vet in 200k debt.","human_ref_B":"Not from a vet perspective, but from a \/r\/personalfinance perspective:  NO.  You're hamstringing yourself in a HUGE way right off the bat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8743.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27hl0z","c_root_id_B":"e27tsa8","created_at_utc_A":1531334747,"created_at_utc_B":1531343943,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"According to the current vet that I work for who owns her own clinic: NO. A big huge NO.  She loved being a vet when she first started and she still loves what she does. However, she lives in a relatively low income situation because of it. She's in her 40s with hundreds of thousands of debt left and she barely makes enough to keep her above Medicaid eligibility.   It has put a huge strain on her life that love of a career cannot make better. It's ridiculous that vets go to school the same amount of time as doctors do, doing similar work, and make so little money.   Her and the average debt to income ratio for vets are what pushed me out of the vet field towards human medicine. I love the veterinary work I do, but it just isn't a good decision financially for me to make it my career.   You will like your career but you will suffer. Maybe enough to where you won't like it so much anymore.","human_ref_B":"Absolutely not. Source: am vet in 200k debt.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9196.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27tsa8","c_root_id_B":"e27tn3l","created_at_utc_A":1531343943,"created_at_utc_B":1531343829,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not. Source: am vet in 200k debt.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet personally, but have 2 retired vets in the family - uncle and grandpa. I did general grunt work in my uncle's clinic for a summer in high school. Their situations as far as the financial end of things would be very different than what you'd face in tuition today. Grandpa did well for himself as a small town country vet back in the day. He did projects outside his practice though too, like consulting for Hill's and helping develop the vet tech program at his alma mater. Uncle did ok for most of his life, largely because his wife was his lead tech and business manager so they made it work together. That being said, he recently sold his practice for health reasons and they're not in very good shape for retirement.  Before I spent that summer working for my uncle I  thought becoming a vet was something I wanted to do too. At the age of 15 I didn't have the financial side in mind, but I still left thinking it wasn't for me. I still loved animals, still wanted to help them, but I'll never forget taking care of an entire litter of puppies with parvo. It was my job to take their temperature and clean their cages. The process broke my heart each time, everything that could be done for them was done, and they all died.  Sorry for the rambling downer, but I definitely agree with those who have said to get a job in a clinic to see if it's really for you. If it is, weigh it with your finances. If it's not, you can find something else without putting yourself in massive debt for a career that you'll be unhappy in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":114.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27i6th","c_root_id_B":"e28bcdx","created_at_utc_A":1531335200,"created_at_utc_B":1531360327,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not from a vet perspective, but from a \/r\/personalfinance perspective:  NO.  You're hamstringing yourself in a HUGE way right off the bat.","human_ref_B":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25127.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e283ryg","c_root_id_B":"e28bcdx","created_at_utc_A":1531352897,"created_at_utc_B":1531360327,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Short answer: no.  Long answer: still no.  With interest, I\u2019m now over $350 k in debt. I\u2019d like to add I worked as vet tech\/assistant for over 5 years before getting into vet school.","human_ref_B":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7430.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e28bcdx","c_root_id_B":"e27hl0z","created_at_utc_A":1531360327,"created_at_utc_B":1531334747,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","human_ref_B":"According to the current vet that I work for who owns her own clinic: NO. A big huge NO.  She loved being a vet when she first started and she still loves what she does. However, she lives in a relatively low income situation because of it. She's in her 40s with hundreds of thousands of debt left and she barely makes enough to keep her above Medicaid eligibility.   It has put a huge strain on her life that love of a career cannot make better. It's ridiculous that vets go to school the same amount of time as doctors do, doing similar work, and make so little money.   Her and the average debt to income ratio for vets are what pushed me out of the vet field towards human medicine. I love the veterinary work I do, but it just isn't a good decision financially for me to make it my career.   You will like your career but you will suffer. Maybe enough to where you won't like it so much anymore.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25580.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e28bcdx","c_root_id_B":"e27tn3l","created_at_utc_A":1531360327,"created_at_utc_B":1531343829,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","human_ref_B":"Not a vet personally, but have 2 retired vets in the family - uncle and grandpa. I did general grunt work in my uncle's clinic for a summer in high school. Their situations as far as the financial end of things would be very different than what you'd face in tuition today. Grandpa did well for himself as a small town country vet back in the day. He did projects outside his practice though too, like consulting for Hill's and helping develop the vet tech program at his alma mater. Uncle did ok for most of his life, largely because his wife was his lead tech and business manager so they made it work together. That being said, he recently sold his practice for health reasons and they're not in very good shape for retirement.  Before I spent that summer working for my uncle I  thought becoming a vet was something I wanted to do too. At the age of 15 I didn't have the financial side in mind, but I still left thinking it wasn't for me. I still loved animals, still wanted to help them, but I'll never forget taking care of an entire litter of puppies with parvo. It was my job to take their temperature and clean their cages. The process broke my heart each time, everything that could be done for them was done, and they all died.  Sorry for the rambling downer, but I definitely agree with those who have said to get a job in a clinic to see if it's really for you. If it is, weigh it with your finances. If it's not, you can find something else without putting yourself in massive debt for a career that you'll be unhappy in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16498.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27txxv","c_root_id_B":"e28bcdx","created_at_utc_A":1531344066,"created_at_utc_B":1531360327,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":".... you'll be lucky if all you get is 200k in debt. I and most people I know are over that and closer to 300k, though I went to an out of state school. I'm doing the public service loan forgiveness program, with which (if the current president and education secretary don't get rid of like they've tried to) you can have your debt forgiven after ten years paying while in public service. Setback is you rarely get paid 80k starting in any public service position (academia, govt, nonprofit, ect). Most other plans you can get forgiveness after 25y paying.","human_ref_B":"If your reasoning for wanting to be a vet is because you love animals, NO. Most people looking into this career don\u2019t realize that as a vet, you work with people who have animals, you don\u2019t work with animals.  If your desire for the career isn\u2019t to help the owners (which often need help from a different field of medicine *eyeroll*), don\u2019t do it.   If you ARE interested in working with really difficult people who have animals, ONLY become a vet if there is NOTHING else in the world you could do that would make you happy.   Even if you can\u2019t find anything else to do professionally to make you happy, know that most days as a private practice vet are tiring, frustrating, and kind of soul sucking. Some days are awesome and your clients are nice. Some days you euthanize six animals while their families cry and then some asshole chews you out about a $150 bill. Afterwards, he drives away in a new Mercedes and you eat cheap ramen cooked in your own tears for dinner.   (Source: today)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16261.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e27i6th","c_root_id_B":"e27hl0z","created_at_utc_A":1531335200,"created_at_utc_B":1531334747,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Not from a vet perspective, but from a \/r\/personalfinance perspective:  NO.  You're hamstringing yourself in a HUGE way right off the bat.","human_ref_B":"According to the current vet that I work for who owns her own clinic: NO. A big huge NO.  She loved being a vet when she first started and she still loves what she does. However, she lives in a relatively low income situation because of it. She's in her 40s with hundreds of thousands of debt left and she barely makes enough to keep her above Medicaid eligibility.   It has put a huge strain on her life that love of a career cannot make better. It's ridiculous that vets go to school the same amount of time as doctors do, doing similar work, and make so little money.   Her and the average debt to income ratio for vets are what pushed me out of the vet field towards human medicine. I love the veterinary work I do, but it just isn't a good decision financially for me to make it my career.   You will like your career but you will suffer. Maybe enough to where you won't like it so much anymore.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":453.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"8xzy09","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Is it worth being 200k+ in debt for the sake of becoming a veterinarian? I\u2019ve always wanted to become a Veterinarian for my love of animals but discovering that most students are well over 200k in debt it hinders my choice on becoming a vet, since these students will probably be paying off their debt until their almost at retiring age it seems. Is it worth all the debt to have an average salary of 80k. Please Note: I live in New York and 80k isn\u2019t that much here","c_root_id_A":"e283ryg","c_root_id_B":"e27txxv","created_at_utc_A":1531352897,"created_at_utc_B":1531344066,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Short answer: no.  Long answer: still no.  With interest, I\u2019m now over $350 k in debt. I\u2019d like to add I worked as vet tech\/assistant for over 5 years before getting into vet school.","human_ref_B":".... you'll be lucky if all you get is 200k in debt. I and most people I know are over that and closer to 300k, though I went to an out of state school. I'm doing the public service loan forgiveness program, with which (if the current president and education secretary don't get rid of like they've tried to) you can have your debt forgiven after ten years paying while in public service. Setback is you rarely get paid 80k starting in any public service position (academia, govt, nonprofit, ect). Most other plans you can get forgiveness after 25y paying.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8831.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"z8wqli","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"What could have killed this cat? 1 year old healthy cat. No bruising, no broken bones, no blood, or injuries, back claws however down to the bone\/ gone\/ torn off on both feet. Found dead 15ft from road. Eyes wide open but rolled back, tongue sticking out. Appears to have fallen as broken flowers. Died within a two hour window from leaving.  Age: 1 Breed: Maincoon Clinical: No deworming in 5 months, was caught snoring for the first time earlier in the day","c_root_id_A":"iydop3v","c_root_id_B":"iyegybj","created_at_utc_A":1669828083,"created_at_utc_B":1669838905,"score_A":18,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"The broken back claws are signs of a road traffic accident.  Sounds like it got hit by a car and possibly died of shock after the indicent","human_ref_B":"Likely hit by a car. He can be brought in for an autopsy for a more definitive answer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10822.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"z8wqli","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"What could have killed this cat? 1 year old healthy cat. No bruising, no broken bones, no blood, or injuries, back claws however down to the bone\/ gone\/ torn off on both feet. Found dead 15ft from road. Eyes wide open but rolled back, tongue sticking out. Appears to have fallen as broken flowers. Died within a two hour window from leaving.  Age: 1 Breed: Maincoon Clinical: No deworming in 5 months, was caught snoring for the first time earlier in the day","c_root_id_A":"iyegybj","c_root_id_B":"iydnxok","created_at_utc_A":1669838905,"created_at_utc_B":1669827790,"score_A":22,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Likely hit by a car. He can be brought in for an autopsy for a more definitive answer.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11115.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"z8wqli","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"What could have killed this cat? 1 year old healthy cat. No bruising, no broken bones, no blood, or injuries, back claws however down to the bone\/ gone\/ torn off on both feet. Found dead 15ft from road. Eyes wide open but rolled back, tongue sticking out. Appears to have fallen as broken flowers. Died within a two hour window from leaving.  Age: 1 Breed: Maincoon Clinical: No deworming in 5 months, was caught snoring for the first time earlier in the day","c_root_id_A":"iydnxok","c_root_id_B":"iydop3v","created_at_utc_A":1669827790,"created_at_utc_B":1669828083,"score_A":2,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"The broken back claws are signs of a road traffic accident.  Sounds like it got hit by a car and possibly died of shock after the indicent","labels":0,"seconds_difference":293.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"x601kr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"My dog killed and\/or brought a dead mouse to my back patio. She didn\u2019t eat it, but should I be concerned about any potential illnesses? Thanks in advance. Title","c_root_id_A":"in44fjh","c_root_id_B":"in4522v","created_at_utc_A":1662331912,"created_at_utc_B":1662332209,"score_A":4,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but this might help you identify any possible disease the rodent may carry. If you\u2019re able to identify the rodent that may help you narrow things down as well:)  https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/rodents\/diseases\/index.html  Edit: your pet may already be vaccinated for leptospirosis!","human_ref_B":"no it's just gross. as long as your pup is up to date on all area relevant vaccines and parasite prevention, unless you start seeing any actual symptoms (vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy, etc) I wouldn't worry about it. if you do start seeing symptoms it would be relevant to mention the incident to your vet at that point","labels":0,"seconds_difference":297.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"h0jvtv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat found a wild rabbit. Help needed please! My cat has just caught a wild rabbit in the garden, the rabbit appears to be quite young. It\u2019s fine as far as I can tell, it\u2019s just scared. No visible cuts or bites.  I\u2019m going to take it to the vet tomorrow, but until then can anybody give me some information on what to do with it please? It\u2019s currently in a pet carrier with some hay and a carrot, and an old rabbit water bottle I had. I\u2019m not sure if it can eat the carrot though, as it looks quite young to me.   Is this the right thing to do? Or should I release it back outside tonight as it looks unharmed?   I\u2019m gonna include some photos incase anyone can tell me the age of the rabbit from them, as I\u2019m worried he needs something other than a carrot to eat. If so, what should I feed it?    https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/OkC6f8l","c_root_id_A":"ftn8vpv","c_root_id_B":"ftmhbia","created_at_utc_A":1591836240,"created_at_utc_B":1591822253,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Carrots are actually not great for rabbits! Too much sugar! And honestly, if he doesn't appear injured you should release him back into the wild!","human_ref_B":"You may also want to ask this of \/r\/WildlifeRehab.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13987.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"zefsxx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My cat hasn't been eating or drinking and im starting to get really worried  please, i know i cant give out all the information you want me to and im sorry but please im just 16 year old and im looking after my cat and she hasn't eaten or had anything to drink today, shes just been sleeping. she has chronic kidney disease and she's been given a strict diet and medication earlier November, but now suddenly shes just seemed to have,, given up, she won't move or eat or just anything, i gave her water through a syringe bc she usually thinks a syringe means medication and she'll take anything, but it didn't do much, she soon just rejected it. we went away for the weekend and she was looked after by a housesitter, but idk what happened and she snuck outside in the pouring rain on Monday and when we got home, we found her in the garden soaked, so i dried her up and gave her found amd water, she ate and drank a little, then she just went to bed, but now she seems so dull. im really scared for her, please im not trying to waste time i just want to know whats wrong with my cat.  ill try write out as much info as i can but please :  Noose Age 17 Diagnosis - CKD, and spinal atheritis Food - Hills, Mobility and Kidneys -???????  Blqck anr white Norwegian forest cat female","c_root_id_A":"iz6ul67","c_root_id_B":"iz6zuge","created_at_utc_A":1670365141,"created_at_utc_B":1670367350,"score_A":14,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Vet!!! Go to a vet asap!!!","human_ref_B":"The cat definitely needs to go to the vet now.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2209.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zefsxx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My cat hasn't been eating or drinking and im starting to get really worried  please, i know i cant give out all the information you want me to and im sorry but please im just 16 year old and im looking after my cat and she hasn't eaten or had anything to drink today, shes just been sleeping. she has chronic kidney disease and she's been given a strict diet and medication earlier November, but now suddenly shes just seemed to have,, given up, she won't move or eat or just anything, i gave her water through a syringe bc she usually thinks a syringe means medication and she'll take anything, but it didn't do much, she soon just rejected it. we went away for the weekend and she was looked after by a housesitter, but idk what happened and she snuck outside in the pouring rain on Monday and when we got home, we found her in the garden soaked, so i dried her up and gave her found amd water, she ate and drank a little, then she just went to bed, but now she seems so dull. im really scared for her, please im not trying to waste time i just want to know whats wrong with my cat.  ill try write out as much info as i can but please :  Noose Age 17 Diagnosis - CKD, and spinal atheritis Food - Hills, Mobility and Kidneys -???????  Blqck anr white Norwegian forest cat female","c_root_id_A":"iz6ul67","c_root_id_B":"iz82it6","created_at_utc_A":1670365141,"created_at_utc_B":1670385021,"score_A":14,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Vet!!! Go to a vet asap!!!","human_ref_B":"you need to convince your guardian to take her to the vet. usually this is a sign they are getting ready to pass but if it is something that can be avoided it\u2019s best to consult your vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19880.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"udz850","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"General question for vets who have had dogs\/cats whose owners regularly brush their pets\u2019 teeth How significantly do you feel it prevents dental issues? Do those pets NEVER need their teeth professionally cleaned in their lives, or do they just need less professional cleanings than the avg dog\/cat?  To be clear- i\u2019m not trying to make an argument to not brush your pet\u2019s teeth. The reason I ask is cuz I brush my cat\u2019s teeth every night and it got me wondering what her teeth would be like if I didn\u2019t brush them regularly. So now I\u2019m curious as to what vets have observed in pets who have their teeth brushed daily.","c_root_id_A":"i6ls63a","c_root_id_B":"i6kyhsh","created_at_utc_A":1651192400,"created_at_utc_B":1651179150,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"We don't expect people to not need professional cleanings despite twice daily brushing.  Cats also get resorptive lesions which are not preventable by brushing","human_ref_B":"We\u2019re supposed to brush twice daily and floss once daily. Then get professional cleanings once-twice\/year. Brushing is just part of oral health, not a replacement for professional cleaning. If there were a way around the dentist I\u2019d sign up for it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13250.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"csflxr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Cat literally gave birth to 4 kittens, anything I can do to help? Want to make sure everything is okay. My brother said not to feed my cat any food however water is fine. My cat will leave the babies when I come into the room but then go back to the babies. I have actually touched all of them.  Any advice or anything?","c_root_id_A":"exej6ov","c_root_id_B":"exejgl5","created_at_utc_A":1566217112,"created_at_utc_B":1566217362,"score_A":88,"score_B":210,"human_ref_A":"Cats are incredible mommas and she will basically do everything that the babies need to live. It is great to watch their eating and growth and make sure everyone seems to be getting fed and kept warm. Cats are very \u201csurvival of the fittest\u201d creatures and will kick a kitten out of the litter (stop feeding) if it is not thriving so if this happens you may need to intervene with a bottle of kitten milk. Just watch for warning signs,  but expect that 99% of the time no intervention will be needed. Get momma fixed as soon as the kittens are weaning and do not let her outside in the meantime; they can have their first heat as early as 4 weeks postpartum.","human_ref_B":"Yes give her food. Kitten food preferably. It takes a lot of energy to give birth to 4 kittens and then produce milk for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":250.0,"score_ratio":2.3863636364}
{"post_id":"csflxr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Cat literally gave birth to 4 kittens, anything I can do to help? Want to make sure everything is okay. My brother said not to feed my cat any food however water is fine. My cat will leave the babies when I come into the room but then go back to the babies. I have actually touched all of them.  Any advice or anything?","c_root_id_A":"exejhqr","c_root_id_B":"exej6ov","created_at_utc_A":1566217392,"created_at_utc_B":1566217112,"score_A":138,"score_B":88,"human_ref_A":"You absolutely should have food (kitten food for mom since she has increased caloric needs while lactating) and water available at all times in the room you have the mom and kittens in.","human_ref_B":"Cats are incredible mommas and she will basically do everything that the babies need to live. It is great to watch their eating and growth and make sure everyone seems to be getting fed and kept warm. Cats are very \u201csurvival of the fittest\u201d creatures and will kick a kitten out of the litter (stop feeding) if it is not thriving so if this happens you may need to intervene with a bottle of kitten milk. Just watch for warning signs,  but expect that 99% of the time no intervention will be needed. Get momma fixed as soon as the kittens are weaning and do not let her outside in the meantime; they can have their first heat as early as 4 weeks postpartum.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":280.0,"score_ratio":1.5681818182}
{"post_id":"csflxr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Cat literally gave birth to 4 kittens, anything I can do to help? Want to make sure everything is okay. My brother said not to feed my cat any food however water is fine. My cat will leave the babies when I come into the room but then go back to the babies. I have actually touched all of them.  Any advice or anything?","c_root_id_A":"exgcnsc","c_root_id_B":"exgkhwo","created_at_utc_A":1566260671,"created_at_utc_B":1566266420,"score_A":8,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Get a kitchen scale and weigh them twice a day. Lack of weight gain\/loss is often the first sign that you're going to need to intervene. Without that knowledge, you likey won't know until it's too late.  Keep a spreadsheet of their weights and look up how much they should weigh at the end of every week. Doesn't matter if you weigh in ounces or grams, whichever you prefer. I preferred grams.   Oh, if momma's litter box is in the same room, switch to a kitten safe litter. The sawdust pellets or Yesterday's News are good. Basically, nothing that clumps.  Other than that, you don't need to do much except feed and water momma and handle them at this stage.  Enjoy them! Watching kittens grow is fun.","human_ref_B":"Feed your cat!!!!! She just gave birth and has to feed four hungry kittens!!! She is hungry!!!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5749.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"u6fflm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do I need to take my cat to the vet? Recently everytime my cat sits on me or I sit where my cat has been for a while, I get itchy. And occasionally it feels like there is a bug crawling on my leg, but I have OCD so this could all be psychosomatic. I have had my cat for 7 years and never once had this problem. Nothing is visible on his ears or skin. Should I give my cat a bath, go to the vet, or do nothing?","c_root_id_A":"i5847xz","c_root_id_B":"i586fbz","created_at_utc_A":1650298970,"created_at_utc_B":1650299851,"score_A":22,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"See a doctor, yourself.  Best wishes!","human_ref_B":"Make sure the cat is on a proper flea prevention, and you should see your doctor.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":881.0,"score_ratio":1.1363636364}
{"post_id":"u6fflm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do I need to take my cat to the vet? Recently everytime my cat sits on me or I sit where my cat has been for a while, I get itchy. And occasionally it feels like there is a bug crawling on my leg, but I have OCD so this could all be psychosomatic. I have had my cat for 7 years and never once had this problem. Nothing is visible on his ears or skin. Should I give my cat a bath, go to the vet, or do nothing?","c_root_id_A":"i5a7myc","c_root_id_B":"i58uigl","created_at_utc_A":1650330644,"created_at_utc_B":1650309512,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Seconding going to the doctor yourself! You can actually develop allergies from prolonged exposure to the allergen, so just because you haven't had an issue before doesn't rule out an issue now","human_ref_B":"Pets need checkups twice a year because they can't tell us when something chronic is going on. If it's been 6 months or more since your cat's last well-check, you might as well book an appointment and mention that you're concerned about parasites while you're there.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21132.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"dezl5p","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Should I humanely euthanize my fish or would something like this be treatable? I recently received an aquarium of fish and one of them was sick. It seems to be very serious and I'm not sure if I could afford a pricey vet visit right now unless I could secure an emergency source of money somehow.   His stomach is severely distended to one side and he's floating upside down. He's still alive. Seeing him like this breaks my heart.  Here is a pic (maybe NSFW?): https:\/\/imgur.com\/gcdna6h  Honestly I would like to save this fish. Euthanasia would have to be my last option; it would only be to end his suffering.","c_root_id_A":"f30580c","c_root_id_B":"f318nqm","created_at_utc_A":1570546684,"created_at_utc_B":1570570119,"score_A":7,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I just wanted to say that you can always try care credit if funds are limited","human_ref_B":"I hope it gets better. I\u2019m glad that you actually care about the fish rather than just acting as though it doesn\u2019t matter.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23435.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"nlivrc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"For livestock vets that do house(barn?) calls, do you carry a standard kit that you take in addition to whatever you might need for the call? I would assume so. I don't know how realistic it is or if its still relevant today, but I have read a number of James Herriot's books and iirc he had a standard bag of equipment he took on his rounds.  A followup question: If so, does it include the necessary injections to put a suffering and deemed unrecoverable(or not worth the cost of treatment) animal down?","c_root_id_A":"gzj00c7","c_root_id_B":"gzizl7x","created_at_utc_A":1622044605,"created_at_utc_B":1622044433,"score_A":17,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I wish you could still get away with just a bag! I have a car full of stuff that I drive around with doing my calls. It has pretty much everything I would need for most farm\/barn situations.  The contents of my car doesn't change much, day to day unless I have a call that requires something more unusual. I restock whenever  I get low on something. I share some equipment with my colleagues so I may not always have that with me (Portable xray machine for example).  Yes, I always have some form of euthanasia solution with me.","human_ref_B":"Haha, farm (and ambulatory equine) vet have a whole truck full of stuff. A typical farm vet vehicle will contain gloves, calving ropes, a fold out table, surgical kit, drapes, a bucket and brush for disinfecting, medications that might need to be given or dispensed, de-horning wire, maybe a ultrasound scanner, maybe a calving jack, maybe a long gyn stick for twisted uterues, casting ropes, protective clothing, gowns, drapes, syringes and needles of different sizes, maps, note books, the list goes on.   So yes, kinda like James Herriot's bag, but on a bigger scale.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":172.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3w4984","c_root_id_B":"d3vyved","created_at_utc_A":1465075247,"created_at_utc_B":1465065574,"score_A":16,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I had a lovely lady who recently told me not to vaccinate her labrador, as vaccinations cause autism... I still cannot work out if she was joking as all young male labs seem to show signs of being on the autism spectrum, whether vaccinated or not!  Also had someone come in at 2.30am for an emergency, saying his dog wasn't breathing well and turning blue... He didn't bring the dog with him though! Just wanted a diagnosis and meds.","human_ref_B":"Clients who badmouth other veterinary clinics. Wanting a second opinion is not a crime and nobody should judge you for it. But opening a conversation with \"The other vet said my dog has this but they have no idea what they're talking about, and I didn't like the way they handled my dog, and I don't believe one word they said so that's why brought Fluffy to you\" is not encouraging. They didn't believe the other vet, so why will they believe you?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9673.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3w658l","c_root_id_B":"d3w5arx","created_at_utc_A":1465078690,"created_at_utc_B":1465077135,"score_A":13,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"-Refusing to accept our medical advice because of their breeder\/trainer\/internet\/psychic's opinion.  \"No, I can't use X drug, because it is toxic for purebred MaltiYorkieDoodlePoos\". No, it's not. I would not recommend something toxic and besides for a few well-known exceptions, all breeds metabolize things the same and have very few real genetic differences. Why come to the appointment if you won't listen to a word I say???  -Declining labwork and imaging then getting snappy that I cannot provide a diagnosis. I am not a magician, I can't do my job if you don't let me run a single test.  -The \"I need to be super skeptical about what she recommends because money-hungry vets\" people, or constantly referencing how \"OTHER vets have 'taken them for a ride'\" so they're distrustful. I make minimum wage slaving on the ER and don't get commission, lady, I just want to fix your dog\/cat\/ferret! Same with people who come in their fancy cars, playing on their new iPhones then cry poverty when I try to do anything and accuse me of being \"all in it for the money\" if I don't give them stuff for free.  -Pet food nazis. Don't believe everything you read. Any AAFCO tested food is fine and nutritionally balanced and Rx diets are not a scam. There's nothing wrong with byproducts, the same nutrients are there. I personally don't give a crap if you feed Iams or BlueWildernessBuffaloWolf Grain Free Pure Premium SuperFood. And I know your Pug and teacup Yorkie are descended from wolves but that doesn't mean they need raw food, and now I need to wear gloves and super sanitize the exam room so they don't give me and my other patients Salmonella.  -Not bringing the decision-maker or primary caretaker to the appointment and then having to put me on speakerphone with 3 different family members to actually get information. I have a full ER, I don't have time to meet your entire extended family and Skype with your mom to figure out how often your cat pukes.  -People who are unrealistic and refuse euthanasia to the detriment of their animal. Your 18 year old cat is a skeleton and struggling to breathe even with oxygen supplementation. This is not going to go well and he is suffering. Please don't make me put this poor animal on the mechanical ventilator. Just because I CAN, doesn't mean I SHOULD.  I promise I love most of my owners, despite these rants :)","human_ref_B":"Did we miss owners that believe in alternative veterinary medicine? Less inclined to accept regular treatment (poison chemicals!). No.. Don't give your suffering animal actual painkillers. Just use those homeopathy drops your friend recommended.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1555.0,"score_ratio":1.0833333333}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3w658l","c_root_id_B":"d3vyved","created_at_utc_A":1465078690,"created_at_utc_B":1465065574,"score_A":13,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"-Refusing to accept our medical advice because of their breeder\/trainer\/internet\/psychic's opinion.  \"No, I can't use X drug, because it is toxic for purebred MaltiYorkieDoodlePoos\". No, it's not. I would not recommend something toxic and besides for a few well-known exceptions, all breeds metabolize things the same and have very few real genetic differences. Why come to the appointment if you won't listen to a word I say???  -Declining labwork and imaging then getting snappy that I cannot provide a diagnosis. I am not a magician, I can't do my job if you don't let me run a single test.  -The \"I need to be super skeptical about what she recommends because money-hungry vets\" people, or constantly referencing how \"OTHER vets have 'taken them for a ride'\" so they're distrustful. I make minimum wage slaving on the ER and don't get commission, lady, I just want to fix your dog\/cat\/ferret! Same with people who come in their fancy cars, playing on their new iPhones then cry poverty when I try to do anything and accuse me of being \"all in it for the money\" if I don't give them stuff for free.  -Pet food nazis. Don't believe everything you read. Any AAFCO tested food is fine and nutritionally balanced and Rx diets are not a scam. There's nothing wrong with byproducts, the same nutrients are there. I personally don't give a crap if you feed Iams or BlueWildernessBuffaloWolf Grain Free Pure Premium SuperFood. And I know your Pug and teacup Yorkie are descended from wolves but that doesn't mean they need raw food, and now I need to wear gloves and super sanitize the exam room so they don't give me and my other patients Salmonella.  -Not bringing the decision-maker or primary caretaker to the appointment and then having to put me on speakerphone with 3 different family members to actually get information. I have a full ER, I don't have time to meet your entire extended family and Skype with your mom to figure out how often your cat pukes.  -People who are unrealistic and refuse euthanasia to the detriment of their animal. Your 18 year old cat is a skeleton and struggling to breathe even with oxygen supplementation. This is not going to go well and he is suffering. Please don't make me put this poor animal on the mechanical ventilator. Just because I CAN, doesn't mean I SHOULD.  I promise I love most of my owners, despite these rants :)","human_ref_B":"Clients who badmouth other veterinary clinics. Wanting a second opinion is not a crime and nobody should judge you for it. But opening a conversation with \"The other vet said my dog has this but they have no idea what they're talking about, and I didn't like the way they handled my dog, and I don't believe one word they said so that's why brought Fluffy to you\" is not encouraging. They didn't believe the other vet, so why will they believe you?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13116.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3w5arx","c_root_id_B":"d3vyved","created_at_utc_A":1465077135,"created_at_utc_B":1465065574,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Did we miss owners that believe in alternative veterinary medicine? Less inclined to accept regular treatment (poison chemicals!). No.. Don't give your suffering animal actual painkillers. Just use those homeopathy drops your friend recommended.","human_ref_B":"Clients who badmouth other veterinary clinics. Wanting a second opinion is not a crime and nobody should judge you for it. But opening a conversation with \"The other vet said my dog has this but they have no idea what they're talking about, and I didn't like the way they handled my dog, and I don't believe one word they said so that's why brought Fluffy to you\" is not encouraging. They didn't believe the other vet, so why will they believe you?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11561.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3wbd98","c_root_id_B":"d3vyved","created_at_utc_A":1465088067,"created_at_utc_B":1465065574,"score_A":9,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"-Human medical professionals who absolutely refuse to believe that yes, indeed, we can do the exact same procedure on their dogs\/cat\/rabbit\/bird they did in medical school on a cadaver and HOLY SHIT the pet will survive. I recently had a local MD look me straight in the eye and say \"You can't intubate a rabbit. I am not stupid. And intubation during CPR doesn't work on rabbits anymore than it would work on a person over 100 pounds. We NEVER, EVER EVER intubate any person over 100 pounds for anything cause it just kills them.\" Apparently I imagined the burning in my throat for a week after major abdominal surgery.  -People who decide their pet is just a small person so they just give the dog\/cat\/hamster a little of whatever medication their child's doctor prescribed.  -People who assume that I am there to provide free babysitting for their out of control demon spawn while Fluffy is getting her shots. No, I am NOT going to entertain your future correctional inmates. No I will NOT let them \"play with the turtles\". And yes, I was the one who told your child that if they touched that expensive medical equipment again I was adding it to the bill. Control your kids or I will do it for you. And yes, my child is well mannered and behaved in public (including visits to my practice) because I am not raising a future corrections inmate.  There are so many others but most have already been covered.","human_ref_B":"Clients who badmouth other veterinary clinics. Wanting a second opinion is not a crime and nobody should judge you for it. But opening a conversation with \"The other vet said my dog has this but they have no idea what they're talking about, and I didn't like the way they handled my dog, and I don't believe one word they said so that's why brought Fluffy to you\" is not encouraging. They didn't believe the other vet, so why will they believe you?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22493.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"4mi1tw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Hey, vets of Reddit, what do pet owners do or say that most annoys you? I'm sure this must have been asked before on this sub, but I can't find it, so sorry if i'm being repetitive, feel free to just share a link.  As a dog owner, I'm curious what are the top things that we as clients unknowingly (or knowingly!) do\/say that annoys or angers vets. As a professional in another field, I've learned there are certain telltale signs that someone is going to be a \"problem client\" so what are those for you guys? I guess these can either be things that they do in interacting with you or your staff in appointments, or attitudes or opinions they have, or ways that they care for their animal or whatever else you can think of. This is sort of your opportunity to vent about shitty clients.","c_root_id_A":"d3w9z44","c_root_id_B":"d3wbd98","created_at_utc_A":1465085576,"created_at_utc_B":1465088067,"score_A":7,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Clients who take their animals off prescribed medications or food because \"Fluffy is feeling so much better!\", and then get frustrated when the animal starts doing poorly again. Yes, they were because the meds were doing their job! Like a chronically constipated cat who should be on laxatives and cisapride indefinitely, gets unblocked, and is seen again in 2-3 months because the owners stopped the meds. Grrr.","human_ref_B":"-Human medical professionals who absolutely refuse to believe that yes, indeed, we can do the exact same procedure on their dogs\/cat\/rabbit\/bird they did in medical school on a cadaver and HOLY SHIT the pet will survive. I recently had a local MD look me straight in the eye and say \"You can't intubate a rabbit. I am not stupid. And intubation during CPR doesn't work on rabbits anymore than it would work on a person over 100 pounds. We NEVER, EVER EVER intubate any person over 100 pounds for anything cause it just kills them.\" Apparently I imagined the burning in my throat for a week after major abdominal surgery.  -People who decide their pet is just a small person so they just give the dog\/cat\/hamster a little of whatever medication their child's doctor prescribed.  -People who assume that I am there to provide free babysitting for their out of control demon spawn while Fluffy is getting her shots. No, I am NOT going to entertain your future correctional inmates. No I will NOT let them \"play with the turtles\". And yes, I was the one who told your child that if they touched that expensive medical equipment again I was adding it to the bill. Control your kids or I will do it for you. And yes, my child is well mannered and behaved in public (including visits to my practice) because I am not raising a future corrections inmate.  There are so many others but most have already been covered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2491.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjcb4v","c_root_id_B":"ehjcxf5","created_at_utc_A":1551420919,"created_at_utc_B":1551421581,"score_A":15,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"Hills Ideal Balance for my dog. My cat gets a small can of Hills Ideal Balance in the morning and some T\/D in the evening.","human_ref_B":"Vet tech here, but I\u2019ve been told by multiple vets that Purina is a surprisingly great brand (especially for the convenience and cost). They put a lot of research into their food. Purina Proplan is particularly great!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":662.0,"score_ratio":3.0666666667}
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{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjmn73","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551435321,"score_A":19,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19168.0,"score_ratio":1.1875}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjcb4v","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551420919,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":15,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Hills Ideal Balance for my dog. My cat gets a small can of Hills Ideal Balance in the morning and some T\/D in the evening.","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33570.0,"score_ratio":1.2666666667}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjguar","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551426610,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":14,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin.","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27879.0,"score_ratio":1.3571428571}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjubgd","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551445484,"score_A":19,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9005.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjkyzw","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551432854,"score_A":19,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"(Hope you dont mind me asking a few more specific questions OP)  For two toy sized dogs that are overweight what would be a good but reasonably priced (doesn't have to be really cheap) option for wet and dry foods please? Also how many meals a day should dogs get?  Mine get about 2 large meals (combo of red meat, some chicken necks cut up very small, dog roll meat but i am going to switch to boiled rice, chicken and pumpkin as the main meals) a day (@ lunch and dinner) and then have access to dry food and bones at anytime and some treats before bed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21635.0,"score_ratio":2.375}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjsuba","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551443960,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":5,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10529.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjuf1x","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551445582,"score_A":19,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8907.0,"score_ratio":3.1666666667}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjkv7x","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551432690,"score_A":19,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Purina proplan","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21799.0,"score_ratio":4.75}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk2ey7","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551452204,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":4,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2285.0,"score_ratio":4.75}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehji5qg","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551428518,"score_A":19,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25971.0,"score_ratio":4.75}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjp8ey","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551439246,"score_A":19,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Hills prescription diet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15243.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjtsn6","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551444975,"score_A":19,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9514.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjuyzj","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551446106,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":2,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin maxi for my ridgeback and Royal Canine Urinary for my indoor cat","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8383.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjy4ne","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551448827,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":3,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5662.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjz1gt","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551449581,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":3,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4908.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjvcjb","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551446458,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":2,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Vet assistant here.  My dog eats Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Skin and Stomach because he has a (surprise!) sensitive GI tract!","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8031.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehjys80","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551449372,"score_A":19,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"My cats are on Purina Pro Plan, which they love and I think is great. They each have different needs (one is on Focus Weight Management, one is a little more picky and needs more fiber so he gets two kinds) and, at least for them, switching between formulas doesn't cause GI upset.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5117.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehk4axq","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551453560,"score_A":19,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"Thoughts on Merrick?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":929.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk5njz","c_root_id_B":"ehk4ep4","created_at_utc_A":1551454489,"created_at_utc_B":1551453631,"score_A":19,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","human_ref_B":"free samples of dry k\/d mixed with canned Friskies","labels":1,"seconds_difference":858.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjr36u","c_root_id_B":"ehk5njz","created_at_utc_A":1551441826,"created_at_utc_B":1551454489,"score_A":2,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","human_ref_B":"I feed my pets small rats from Big Cheese Rodent Factory #sneks","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12663.0,"score_ratio":9.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjcb4v","c_root_id_B":"ehjfgx6","created_at_utc_A":1551420919,"created_at_utc_B":1551424683,"score_A":15,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Hills Ideal Balance for my dog. My cat gets a small can of Hills Ideal Balance in the morning and some T\/D in the evening.","human_ref_B":"Hill\u2019s Prescription J\/D","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3764.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjcb4v","c_root_id_B":"ehjmn73","created_at_utc_A":1551420919,"created_at_utc_B":1551435321,"score_A":15,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Hills Ideal Balance for my dog. My cat gets a small can of Hills Ideal Balance in the morning and some T\/D in the evening.","human_ref_B":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14402.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjmn73","c_root_id_B":"ehjguar","created_at_utc_A":1551435321,"created_at_utc_B":1551426610,"score_A":16,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8711.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjmn73","c_root_id_B":"ehjkyzw","created_at_utc_A":1551435321,"created_at_utc_B":1551432854,"score_A":16,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","human_ref_B":"(Hope you dont mind me asking a few more specific questions OP)  For two toy sized dogs that are overweight what would be a good but reasonably priced (doesn't have to be really cheap) option for wet and dry foods please? Also how many meals a day should dogs get?  Mine get about 2 large meals (combo of red meat, some chicken necks cut up very small, dog roll meat but i am going to switch to boiled rice, chicken and pumpkin as the main meals) a day (@ lunch and dinner) and then have access to dry food and bones at anytime and some treats before bed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2467.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjkv7x","c_root_id_B":"ehjmn73","created_at_utc_A":1551432690,"created_at_utc_B":1551435321,"score_A":4,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Purina proplan","human_ref_B":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2631.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehji5qg","c_root_id_B":"ehjmn73","created_at_utc_A":1551428518,"created_at_utc_B":1551435321,"score_A":4,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","human_ref_B":"My two male kitties are on Hills c\/d Multicare Stress. We ain't taking no risks with blocked cats in this household.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6803.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjubgd","c_root_id_B":"ehjkyzw","created_at_utc_A":1551445484,"created_at_utc_B":1551432854,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","human_ref_B":"(Hope you dont mind me asking a few more specific questions OP)  For two toy sized dogs that are overweight what would be a good but reasonably priced (doesn't have to be really cheap) option for wet and dry foods please? Also how many meals a day should dogs get?  Mine get about 2 large meals (combo of red meat, some chicken necks cut up very small, dog roll meat but i am going to switch to boiled rice, chicken and pumpkin as the main meals) a day (@ lunch and dinner) and then have access to dry food and bones at anytime and some treats before bed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12630.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjsuba","c_root_id_B":"ehjubgd","created_at_utc_A":1551443960,"created_at_utc_B":1551445484,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1524.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjubgd","c_root_id_B":"ehjkv7x","created_at_utc_A":1551445484,"created_at_utc_B":1551432690,"score_A":12,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","human_ref_B":"Purina proplan","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12794.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehji5qg","c_root_id_B":"ehjubgd","created_at_utc_A":1551428518,"created_at_utc_B":1551445484,"score_A":4,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16966.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjubgd","c_root_id_B":"ehjp8ey","created_at_utc_A":1551445484,"created_at_utc_B":1551439246,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","human_ref_B":"Hills prescription diet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6238.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjubgd","c_root_id_B":"ehjtsn6","created_at_utc_A":1551445484,"created_at_utc_B":1551444975,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","human_ref_B":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":509.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjubgd","c_root_id_B":"ehjr36u","created_at_utc_A":1551445484,"created_at_utc_B":1551441826,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin Fibre Response. My cat is a former patient that was surrendered by the person who brought him in as a stray. His pelvis was crushed by a dog and my ex-boss botched the surgery, so his pelvic inlet and subsequent rectum does not exceed the diameter of my pinky.  Any other food will cause him to be obstipated. This food results in his faeces being a strangely rubbery consistency but malleable enough to exit the narrowed space.","human_ref_B":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3658.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjkv7x","c_root_id_B":"ehjkyzw","created_at_utc_A":1551432690,"created_at_utc_B":1551432854,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Purina proplan","human_ref_B":"(Hope you dont mind me asking a few more specific questions OP)  For two toy sized dogs that are overweight what would be a good but reasonably priced (doesn't have to be really cheap) option for wet and dry foods please? Also how many meals a day should dogs get?  Mine get about 2 large meals (combo of red meat, some chicken necks cut up very small, dog roll meat but i am going to switch to boiled rice, chicken and pumpkin as the main meals) a day (@ lunch and dinner) and then have access to dry food and bones at anytime and some treats before bed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":164.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehji5qg","c_root_id_B":"ehjkyzw","created_at_utc_A":1551428518,"created_at_utc_B":1551432854,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","human_ref_B":"(Hope you dont mind me asking a few more specific questions OP)  For two toy sized dogs that are overweight what would be a good but reasonably priced (doesn't have to be really cheap) option for wet and dry foods please? Also how many meals a day should dogs get?  Mine get about 2 large meals (combo of red meat, some chicken necks cut up very small, dog roll meat but i am going to switch to boiled rice, chicken and pumpkin as the main meals) a day (@ lunch and dinner) and then have access to dry food and bones at anytime and some treats before bed.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4336.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjuf1x","c_root_id_B":"ehjsuba","created_at_utc_A":1551445582,"created_at_utc_B":1551443960,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","human_ref_B":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1622.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjsuba","c_root_id_B":"ehjkv7x","created_at_utc_A":1551443960,"created_at_utc_B":1551432690,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","human_ref_B":"Purina proplan","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11270.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehji5qg","c_root_id_B":"ehjsuba","created_at_utc_A":1551428518,"created_at_utc_B":1551443960,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","human_ref_B":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15442.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjsuba","c_root_id_B":"ehjp8ey","created_at_utc_A":1551443960,"created_at_utc_B":1551439246,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","human_ref_B":"Hills prescription diet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4714.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjr36u","c_root_id_B":"ehjsuba","created_at_utc_A":1551441826,"created_at_utc_B":1551443960,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","human_ref_B":"Hills Derm Defense for my \u201cdon\u2019t you dare turn into a skin case\u201d dog; Hills c\/d canned and Metabolic (in the winter) or c\/d dry (in the summer) for my cat; and the new dog is being transitioned to Hills t\/d from the multicoloured feed store crap his previous family had him on.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2134.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjkv7x","c_root_id_B":"ehjuf1x","created_at_utc_A":1551432690,"created_at_utc_B":1551445582,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Purina proplan","human_ref_B":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12892.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjuf1x","c_root_id_B":"ehji5qg","created_at_utc_A":1551445582,"created_at_utc_B":1551428518,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","human_ref_B":"Vetetinary diet Gastrointestinalu Calibra and Lukullus sensitive, liquid food","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17064.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjp8ey","c_root_id_B":"ehjuf1x","created_at_utc_A":1551439246,"created_at_utc_B":1551445582,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hills prescription diet","human_ref_B":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6336.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjuf1x","c_root_id_B":"ehjtsn6","created_at_utc_A":1551445582,"created_at_utc_B":1551444975,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","human_ref_B":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":607.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjr36u","c_root_id_B":"ehjuf1x","created_at_utc_A":1551441826,"created_at_utc_B":1551445582,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","human_ref_B":"Purina jm for my dog, hills science diet canned for my cat.  I buy a varierty of can flavors and rotate them. No dry food for the cat other than the occasional stolen puece of dog food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3756.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk2ey7","c_root_id_B":"ehjp8ey","created_at_utc_A":1551452204,"created_at_utc_B":1551439246,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","human_ref_B":"Hills prescription diet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12958.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk2ey7","c_root_id_B":"ehjtsn6","created_at_utc_A":1551452204,"created_at_utc_B":1551444975,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","human_ref_B":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7229.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjuyzj","c_root_id_B":"ehk2ey7","created_at_utc_A":1551446106,"created_at_utc_B":1551452204,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Royal Canin maxi for my ridgeback and Royal Canine Urinary for my indoor cat","human_ref_B":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6098.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjy4ne","c_root_id_B":"ehk2ey7","created_at_utc_A":1551448827,"created_at_utc_B":1551452204,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","human_ref_B":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3377.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk2ey7","c_root_id_B":"ehjz1gt","created_at_utc_A":1551452204,"created_at_utc_B":1551449581,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","human_ref_B":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2623.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehk2ey7","c_root_id_B":"ehjvcjb","created_at_utc_A":1551452204,"created_at_utc_B":1551446458,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","human_ref_B":"Vet assistant here.  My dog eats Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Skin and Stomach because he has a (surprise!) sensitive GI tract!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5746.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjys80","c_root_id_B":"ehk2ey7","created_at_utc_A":1551449372,"created_at_utc_B":1551452204,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"My cats are on Purina Pro Plan, which they love and I think is great. They each have different needs (one is on Focus Weight Management, one is a little more picky and needs more fiber so he gets two kinds) and, at least for them, switching between formulas doesn't cause GI upset.","human_ref_B":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2832.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjr36u","c_root_id_B":"ehk2ey7","created_at_utc_A":1551441826,"created_at_utc_B":1551452204,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","human_ref_B":"RVT here. My cat gets Royal Canin calm because she has hyperesthesia and it helps her not over groom. She also gets Royal Canin canned adult formula because she\u2019s a spoiled lady and lives for wet food.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10378.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjy4ne","c_root_id_B":"ehjp8ey","created_at_utc_A":1551448827,"created_at_utc_B":1551439246,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","human_ref_B":"Hills prescription diet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9581.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjp8ey","c_root_id_B":"ehjz1gt","created_at_utc_A":1551439246,"created_at_utc_B":1551449581,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hills prescription diet","human_ref_B":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10335.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjtsn6","c_root_id_B":"ehjy4ne","created_at_utc_A":1551444975,"created_at_utc_B":1551448827,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","human_ref_B":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3852.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjtsn6","c_root_id_B":"ehjz1gt","created_at_utc_A":1551444975,"created_at_utc_B":1551449581,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A lot of Hills here, does anyone feed Victor?","human_ref_B":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4606.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjy4ne","c_root_id_B":"ehjuyzj","created_at_utc_A":1551448827,"created_at_utc_B":1551446106,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin maxi for my ridgeback and Royal Canine Urinary for my indoor cat","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2721.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjz1gt","c_root_id_B":"ehjuyzj","created_at_utc_A":1551449581,"created_at_utc_B":1551446106,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","human_ref_B":"Royal Canin maxi for my ridgeback and Royal Canine Urinary for my indoor cat","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3475.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjy4ne","c_root_id_B":"ehjvcjb","created_at_utc_A":1551448827,"created_at_utc_B":1551446458,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","human_ref_B":"Vet assistant here.  My dog eats Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Skin and Stomach because he has a (surprise!) sensitive GI tract!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2369.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjr36u","c_root_id_B":"ehjy4ne","created_at_utc_A":1551441826,"created_at_utc_B":1551448827,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","human_ref_B":"Dogs: Purina Pro Plan.     Cats: all older and have various health issues. Royal Canin GI High energyfor the IBD cats, Royal Canin Renal+ Hydrolyzed for the kidney cat, and Wellness for the healthies","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7001.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjvcjb","c_root_id_B":"ehjz1gt","created_at_utc_A":1551446458,"created_at_utc_B":1551449581,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Vet assistant here.  My dog eats Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Skin and Stomach because he has a (surprise!) sensitive GI tract!","human_ref_B":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3123.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjys80","c_root_id_B":"ehjz1gt","created_at_utc_A":1551449372,"created_at_utc_B":1551449581,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My cats are on Purina Pro Plan, which they love and I think is great. They each have different needs (one is on Focus Weight Management, one is a little more picky and needs more fiber so he gets two kinds) and, at least for them, switching between formulas doesn't cause GI upset.","human_ref_B":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":209.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aw119b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Vets, what food do you feed your pets? Im just curious to see which foods you guys feed.","c_root_id_A":"ehjz1gt","c_root_id_B":"ehjr36u","created_at_utc_A":1551449581,"created_at_utc_B":1551441826,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My kitty gets royal canin select protein, which has worked to control his awful GI disease.","human_ref_B":"This is interesting - I was told that Hills is a great brand, but they're not the best. Apparently there a fillers? (They do seem to be one of the few brands that does special or prescription formulas.)   I also noticed that the cat foods mentioned tend to be the pate kind. Are there any brands that offer things for urinary tract health, but in a chunky food with gravy? Or is that not possible?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7755.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip68zat","c_root_id_B":"ip63zi5","created_at_utc_A":1663665655,"created_at_utc_B":1663661073,"score_A":178,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t gift pets. Discuss with parents first, and if they give the okay, then I\u2019d take your sister to go pick one out together.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t you mean\u2026I\u2019m going to get my parents a cat, that my little sister will play with and love. You need to make sure an adult is fully on board for its care and costs and to have it when she moves out to travel the world in 10yrs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4582.0,"score_ratio":1.797979798}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5y850","c_root_id_B":"ip68zat","created_at_utc_A":1663656107,"created_at_utc_B":1663665655,"score_A":73,"score_B":178,"human_ref_A":"If she loves cats, she will love a rescue cat just as much as a pedigree cat - and it will save her a lot of heartbreak to have a robust healthy cat. It will also save your parents a fortune in vet bills.   Breeders are often ruthless with no concern other than maximising their profit, so breeding mother's get exploited, genetic defects are not bred out.   And if your sister is determined to get a specific breed, she can do that when she is old enough to deal with it herself.   Lastly: are your parents happy with this? Cat food, cat litter, insurance all cost money, washing the food bowls, emptying the litter box, feeding, brushing all takes time: how much of it will your sister do herself and how much will you and your parents end up doing?   I think pets are the best thing ever and bring love and fun and happiness to our lives, but they are also a responsibility.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t gift pets. Discuss with parents first, and if they give the okay, then I\u2019d take your sister to go pick one out together.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9548.0,"score_ratio":2.4383561644}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5xgj8","c_root_id_B":"ip68zat","created_at_utc_A":1663655506,"created_at_utc_B":1663665655,"score_A":59,"score_B":178,"human_ref_A":"Never give pets as gifts, they are a lifelong commitment. How is your sister going to take care of it, she has no money?","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t gift pets. Discuss with parents first, and if they give the okay, then I\u2019d take your sister to go pick one out together.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10149.0,"score_ratio":3.0169491525}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6oymu","c_root_id_B":"ip63zi5","created_at_utc_A":1663676727,"created_at_utc_B":1663661073,"score_A":109,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"A kitten is an 18 year commitment, and hundreds of dollars of bills every year, *all going well*.   Your sister will still be responsible for this cat long after she graduates university. That's many years of bills and responsibility at a time when she should be free as a bird.  Don't gift an animal. If she wants to get a kitty fix the easiest way is for her to volunteer or foster, unless her parents are prepared to get one. Even then, she should be the one to choose it, don't take that experience away from her.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t you mean\u2026I\u2019m going to get my parents a cat, that my little sister will play with and love. You need to make sure an adult is fully on board for its care and costs and to have it when she moves out to travel the world in 10yrs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15654.0,"score_ratio":1.101010101}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5y850","c_root_id_B":"ip6oymu","created_at_utc_A":1663656107,"created_at_utc_B":1663676727,"score_A":73,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"If she loves cats, she will love a rescue cat just as much as a pedigree cat - and it will save her a lot of heartbreak to have a robust healthy cat. It will also save your parents a fortune in vet bills.   Breeders are often ruthless with no concern other than maximising their profit, so breeding mother's get exploited, genetic defects are not bred out.   And if your sister is determined to get a specific breed, she can do that when she is old enough to deal with it herself.   Lastly: are your parents happy with this? Cat food, cat litter, insurance all cost money, washing the food bowls, emptying the litter box, feeding, brushing all takes time: how much of it will your sister do herself and how much will you and your parents end up doing?   I think pets are the best thing ever and bring love and fun and happiness to our lives, but they are also a responsibility.","human_ref_B":"A kitten is an 18 year commitment, and hundreds of dollars of bills every year, *all going well*.   Your sister will still be responsible for this cat long after she graduates university. That's many years of bills and responsibility at a time when she should be free as a bird.  Don't gift an animal. If she wants to get a kitty fix the easiest way is for her to volunteer or foster, unless her parents are prepared to get one. Even then, she should be the one to choose it, don't take that experience away from her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20620.0,"score_ratio":1.4931506849}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6oymu","c_root_id_B":"ip5xgj8","created_at_utc_A":1663676727,"created_at_utc_B":1663655506,"score_A":109,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"A kitten is an 18 year commitment, and hundreds of dollars of bills every year, *all going well*.   Your sister will still be responsible for this cat long after she graduates university. That's many years of bills and responsibility at a time when she should be free as a bird.  Don't gift an animal. If she wants to get a kitty fix the easiest way is for her to volunteer or foster, unless her parents are prepared to get one. Even then, she should be the one to choose it, don't take that experience away from her.","human_ref_B":"Never give pets as gifts, they are a lifelong commitment. How is your sister going to take care of it, she has no money?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21221.0,"score_ratio":1.8474576271}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6h1pb","c_root_id_B":"ip6oymu","created_at_utc_A":1663672037,"created_at_utc_B":1663676727,"score_A":34,"score_B":109,"human_ref_A":"The pet picks the human. If you want to get your sister a cat, take her and a parent to a shelter and have her pick one out. She\u2019ll likely pick out one that doesn\u2019t match her \u201cpreferences\u201d at all. Never gift a pet!  Purebred animals do have more problems than mixed breeds, as a general rule.","human_ref_B":"A kitten is an 18 year commitment, and hundreds of dollars of bills every year, *all going well*.   Your sister will still be responsible for this cat long after she graduates university. That's many years of bills and responsibility at a time when she should be free as a bird.  Don't gift an animal. If she wants to get a kitty fix the easiest way is for her to volunteer or foster, unless her parents are prepared to get one. Even then, she should be the one to choose it, don't take that experience away from her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4690.0,"score_ratio":3.2058823529}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5y850","c_root_id_B":"ip63zi5","created_at_utc_A":1663656107,"created_at_utc_B":1663661073,"score_A":73,"score_B":99,"human_ref_A":"If she loves cats, she will love a rescue cat just as much as a pedigree cat - and it will save her a lot of heartbreak to have a robust healthy cat. It will also save your parents a fortune in vet bills.   Breeders are often ruthless with no concern other than maximising their profit, so breeding mother's get exploited, genetic defects are not bred out.   And if your sister is determined to get a specific breed, she can do that when she is old enough to deal with it herself.   Lastly: are your parents happy with this? Cat food, cat litter, insurance all cost money, washing the food bowls, emptying the litter box, feeding, brushing all takes time: how much of it will your sister do herself and how much will you and your parents end up doing?   I think pets are the best thing ever and bring love and fun and happiness to our lives, but they are also a responsibility.","human_ref_B":"Don\u2019t you mean\u2026I\u2019m going to get my parents a cat, that my little sister will play with and love. You need to make sure an adult is fully on board for its care and costs and to have it when she moves out to travel the world in 10yrs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4966.0,"score_ratio":1.3561643836}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip63zi5","c_root_id_B":"ip5xgj8","created_at_utc_A":1663661073,"created_at_utc_B":1663655506,"score_A":99,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Don\u2019t you mean\u2026I\u2019m going to get my parents a cat, that my little sister will play with and love. You need to make sure an adult is fully on board for its care and costs and to have it when she moves out to travel the world in 10yrs.","human_ref_B":"Never give pets as gifts, they are a lifelong commitment. How is your sister going to take care of it, she has no money?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5567.0,"score_ratio":1.6779661017}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip77w64","c_root_id_B":"ip5y850","created_at_utc_A":1663685193,"created_at_utc_B":1663656107,"score_A":80,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"Having a 9 year old daughter I can 100% confirm that they are entirely unqualified to be the sole caretaker for another living creature.   Don't do it. And even if she was older, still don't do it. Like someone else said, pets are an investment that can last up to 20+ years. They should never be given as gifts.","human_ref_B":"If she loves cats, she will love a rescue cat just as much as a pedigree cat - and it will save her a lot of heartbreak to have a robust healthy cat. It will also save your parents a fortune in vet bills.   Breeders are often ruthless with no concern other than maximising their profit, so breeding mother's get exploited, genetic defects are not bred out.   And if your sister is determined to get a specific breed, she can do that when she is old enough to deal with it herself.   Lastly: are your parents happy with this? Cat food, cat litter, insurance all cost money, washing the food bowls, emptying the litter box, feeding, brushing all takes time: how much of it will your sister do herself and how much will you and your parents end up doing?   I think pets are the best thing ever and bring love and fun and happiness to our lives, but they are also a responsibility.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":29086.0,"score_ratio":1.095890411}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5xgj8","c_root_id_B":"ip77w64","created_at_utc_A":1663655506,"created_at_utc_B":1663685193,"score_A":59,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"Never give pets as gifts, they are a lifelong commitment. How is your sister going to take care of it, she has no money?","human_ref_B":"Having a 9 year old daughter I can 100% confirm that they are entirely unqualified to be the sole caretaker for another living creature.   Don't do it. And even if she was older, still don't do it. Like someone else said, pets are an investment that can last up to 20+ years. They should never be given as gifts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29687.0,"score_ratio":1.3559322034}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6h1pb","c_root_id_B":"ip77w64","created_at_utc_A":1663672037,"created_at_utc_B":1663685193,"score_A":34,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"The pet picks the human. If you want to get your sister a cat, take her and a parent to a shelter and have her pick one out. She\u2019ll likely pick out one that doesn\u2019t match her \u201cpreferences\u201d at all. Never gift a pet!  Purebred animals do have more problems than mixed breeds, as a general rule.","human_ref_B":"Having a 9 year old daughter I can 100% confirm that they are entirely unqualified to be the sole caretaker for another living creature.   Don't do it. And even if she was older, still don't do it. Like someone else said, pets are an investment that can last up to 20+ years. They should never be given as gifts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13156.0,"score_ratio":2.3529411765}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6yx71","c_root_id_B":"ip77w64","created_at_utc_A":1663681470,"created_at_utc_B":1663685193,"score_A":26,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"Nah don\u2019t do this.","human_ref_B":"Having a 9 year old daughter I can 100% confirm that they are entirely unqualified to be the sole caretaker for another living creature.   Don't do it. And even if she was older, still don't do it. Like someone else said, pets are an investment that can last up to 20+ years. They should never be given as gifts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3723.0,"score_ratio":3.0769230769}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip701al","c_root_id_B":"ip77w64","created_at_utc_A":1663681952,"created_at_utc_B":1663685193,"score_A":13,"score_B":80,"human_ref_A":"A. Ask your parents first  B. Make sure your sister would actually be a good cat owner. Before getting a dog, my parents made sure my sister and I knew how to do the basics in caring for our dog.   C. Get a nice shelter cat.","human_ref_B":"Having a 9 year old daughter I can 100% confirm that they are entirely unqualified to be the sole caretaker for another living creature.   Don't do it. And even if she was older, still don't do it. Like someone else said, pets are an investment that can last up to 20+ years. They should never be given as gifts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3241.0,"score_ratio":6.1538461538}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip5y850","c_root_id_B":"ip5xgj8","created_at_utc_A":1663656107,"created_at_utc_B":1663655506,"score_A":73,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"If she loves cats, she will love a rescue cat just as much as a pedigree cat - and it will save her a lot of heartbreak to have a robust healthy cat. It will also save your parents a fortune in vet bills.   Breeders are often ruthless with no concern other than maximising their profit, so breeding mother's get exploited, genetic defects are not bred out.   And if your sister is determined to get a specific breed, she can do that when she is old enough to deal with it herself.   Lastly: are your parents happy with this? Cat food, cat litter, insurance all cost money, washing the food bowls, emptying the litter box, feeding, brushing all takes time: how much of it will your sister do herself and how much will you and your parents end up doing?   I think pets are the best thing ever and bring love and fun and happiness to our lives, but they are also a responsibility.","human_ref_B":"Never give pets as gifts, they are a lifelong commitment. How is your sister going to take care of it, she has no money?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":601.0,"score_ratio":1.2372881356}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip6yx71","c_root_id_B":"ip79w6p","created_at_utc_A":1663681470,"created_at_utc_B":1663685989,"score_A":26,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Nah don\u2019t do this.","human_ref_B":"Horrible idea. Dont gift a pet to anyone, let alone a 9 year old that just likes it in an anime.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4519.0,"score_ratio":1.2307692308}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip701al","c_root_id_B":"ip79w6p","created_at_utc_A":1663681952,"created_at_utc_B":1663685989,"score_A":13,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"A. Ask your parents first  B. Make sure your sister would actually be a good cat owner. Before getting a dog, my parents made sure my sister and I knew how to do the basics in caring for our dog.   C. Get a nice shelter cat.","human_ref_B":"Horrible idea. Dont gift a pet to anyone, let alone a 9 year old that just likes it in an anime.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4037.0,"score_ratio":2.4615384615}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7kcae","c_root_id_B":"ip7xm2s","created_at_utc_A":1663690024,"created_at_utc_B":1663695005,"score_A":9,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Gifting an animal is not a good idea, especially to someone so young. It would become your parent's responsibility to take care of it, and a cat is a long term committment, emotionally, financially, and physically.","human_ref_B":"you do not gift a nine year old a pet   Would you gift a nine year old a child","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4981.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7fqio","c_root_id_B":"ip7kcae","created_at_utc_A":1663688284,"created_at_utc_B":1663690024,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Only give cat with 100% approval of her caretakers. Go to a breeder who shows and health checks their cats. You may have to wait","human_ref_B":"Gifting an animal is not a good idea, especially to someone so young. It would become your parent's responsibility to take care of it, and a cat is a long term committment, emotionally, financially, and physically.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1740.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7xm2s","c_root_id_B":"ip7fqio","created_at_utc_A":1663695005,"created_at_utc_B":1663688284,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"you do not gift a nine year old a pet   Would you gift a nine year old a child","human_ref_B":"Only give cat with 100% approval of her caretakers. Go to a breeder who shows and health checks their cats. You may have to wait","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6721.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7xm2s","c_root_id_B":"ip7kumk","created_at_utc_A":1663695005,"created_at_utc_B":1663690219,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"you do not gift a nine year old a pet   Would you gift a nine year old a child","human_ref_B":"Please don\u2019t gift a pet, it\u2019s a living thing and your sister is far to young to properly care for it. I have read so many posts on Redit from young people struggling with caring for pets, especially ones that the parents want nothing to do with and it\u2019s heart breaking. Food, litter, shots, spaying, and insurance all cost money every month. Your parents need to be fully on board with this decision. Second she should be involved with any picking of the animal, take her to a shelter with your parents when they approve the purchase.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4786.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7xm2s","c_root_id_B":"ip7lef5","created_at_utc_A":1663695005,"created_at_utc_B":1663690430,"score_A":10,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"you do not gift a nine year old a pet   Would you gift a nine year old a child","human_ref_B":"Pets aren't gifts. They're living creatures and plenty of thought needs to go into the practicalities of actually having one before it's done. You need to speak with your parents first about this. And if you know the type of cat she's after is going to have a bad quality of life then obviously don't purchase that breed and help keep the demand up. A shelter kitty would suffice.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4575.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7r8cf","c_root_id_B":"ip7xm2s","created_at_utc_A":1663692618,"created_at_utc_B":1663695005,"score_A":4,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m believe in the mindset \u201cadopt don\u2019t shop\u201d. People always want particular breeds but never for their intended purposes, such as people getting working dogs as family pets. As long as you have the parents permission (cause your sister won\u2019t be paying the bills) I would go to the shelter as a family and pick out a homeless kitty. No matter how much research you do about breeds you\u2019ll never ever know exactly what you\u2019re getting till it\u2019s living with you.","human_ref_B":"you do not gift a nine year old a pet   Would you gift a nine year old a child","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2387.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7kumk","c_root_id_B":"ip81gs3","created_at_utc_A":1663690219,"created_at_utc_B":1663696446,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Please don\u2019t gift a pet, it\u2019s a living thing and your sister is far to young to properly care for it. I have read so many posts on Redit from young people struggling with caring for pets, especially ones that the parents want nothing to do with and it\u2019s heart breaking. Food, litter, shots, spaying, and insurance all cost money every month. Your parents need to be fully on board with this decision. Second she should be involved with any picking of the animal, take her to a shelter with your parents when they approve the purchase.","human_ref_B":"Get her a stuffed animal. Don\u2019t get the parents a cat because you know that they will be the one caring for them. A nine-year-old cannot financially care for a pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6227.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7lef5","c_root_id_B":"ip81gs3","created_at_utc_A":1663690430,"created_at_utc_B":1663696446,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Pets aren't gifts. They're living creatures and plenty of thought needs to go into the practicalities of actually having one before it's done. You need to speak with your parents first about this. And if you know the type of cat she's after is going to have a bad quality of life then obviously don't purchase that breed and help keep the demand up. A shelter kitty would suffice.","human_ref_B":"Get her a stuffed animal. Don\u2019t get the parents a cat because you know that they will be the one caring for them. A nine-year-old cannot financially care for a pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6016.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip818uq","c_root_id_B":"ip81gs3","created_at_utc_A":1663696364,"created_at_utc_B":1663696446,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Generally do not advise gifting pets.","human_ref_B":"Get her a stuffed animal. Don\u2019t get the parents a cat because you know that they will be the one caring for them. A nine-year-old cannot financially care for a pet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":82.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip81gs3","c_root_id_B":"ip7r8cf","created_at_utc_A":1663696446,"created_at_utc_B":1663692618,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Get her a stuffed animal. Don\u2019t get the parents a cat because you know that they will be the one caring for them. A nine-year-old cannot financially care for a pet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m believe in the mindset \u201cadopt don\u2019t shop\u201d. People always want particular breeds but never for their intended purposes, such as people getting working dogs as family pets. As long as you have the parents permission (cause your sister won\u2019t be paying the bills) I would go to the shelter as a family and pick out a homeless kitty. No matter how much research you do about breeds you\u2019ll never ever know exactly what you\u2019re getting till it\u2019s living with you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3828.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip7r8cf","c_root_id_B":"ip818uq","created_at_utc_A":1663692618,"created_at_utc_B":1663696364,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m believe in the mindset \u201cadopt don\u2019t shop\u201d. People always want particular breeds but never for their intended purposes, such as people getting working dogs as family pets. As long as you have the parents permission (cause your sister won\u2019t be paying the bills) I would go to the shelter as a family and pick out a homeless kitty. No matter how much research you do about breeds you\u2019ll never ever know exactly what you\u2019re getting till it\u2019s living with you.","human_ref_B":"Generally do not advise gifting pets.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3746.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip8i348","c_root_id_B":"ip86p27","created_at_utc_A":1663702890,"created_at_utc_B":1663698471,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Gifting someone an animal isn\u2019t cool, so especially not a 9 year old. Taking care of the cat will fall on her parents and if they really wanted a cat they\u2019d have one already.","human_ref_B":"a pet gift is not a good idea. it requires significant time and money to properly care for. it should be a family decision.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4419.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip8blda","c_root_id_B":"ip8i348","created_at_utc_A":1663700400,"created_at_utc_B":1663702890,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not.","human_ref_B":"Gifting someone an animal isn\u2019t cool, so especially not a 9 year old. Taking care of the cat will fall on her parents and if they really wanted a cat they\u2019d have one already.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2490.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip8d6xk","c_root_id_B":"ip8i348","created_at_utc_A":1663701024,"created_at_utc_B":1663702890,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Absolutely not. I doubt as a 9 year old she understands the responsibility of owning a pet nonetheless a cat. This is something her parents will need to take care of more than her because it\u2019s also a huge financial burden. Can she carry 10-40 pounds of litter bags and fill up litter boxes or will someone else do it for her?  Is she willing to scoop out poop? Will she put food and fresh water out for them everyday? Does she understand these are small fragile animals that need to be handled very carefully and loved? Is she going to make sure it doesn\u2019t ever escape the house and in the case it ever does that it has a tracker and or microchip? Will they take them to the vet consistently every year for checkups? Ask all this with the parents, they need to understand it will take a lot of work and will cost at-least 1000-2000 dollars USD a year per cat. Instead of looking for a certain breed go to a cat or animal adoption center and find a healthy kitten that is at-least 12 weeks old.","human_ref_B":"Gifting someone an animal isn\u2019t cool, so especially not a 9 year old. Taking care of the cat will fall on her parents and if they really wanted a cat they\u2019d have one already.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1866.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xj05i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.6,"history":"I'm thinking of giving my younger sister a cat for her birthday. What do you say? A little background. I've a younger sister and she is 9 years old. A few months ago, she said she would like thai cat for her birthday. I knew she wanted a pet, but I didn't expect her to want this particular breed of cat. But she loves anime and everything related to it, and I guess that's why she wanted something of a similar theme. Apparently she's ardent fan.  &#x200B;  Let's get back to the point. It's not a problem for me to find this breed of cat and give it away. But yesterday I searched Google for at least some information about this breed and found something that made me doubt whether it was worth giving this particular breed.I found out that they have increased mortality and morbidity compared to other cat breeds. I just don't want it to somehow traumatize my younger sister if suddenly her cat dies from some disease. It will be a big blow for the child. I'm at a dead end right now.  &#x200B;  I need your help or at least some advice. Perhaps someone has or had this breed of cats. Tell me do they really have problems with morbidity? I read about thai cat that they have a huge number of diseases that they suffer from during their lifetime. I don't know if I should trust what I found, but it seemed very true to me. I'm sorry if I can't post information from other portals here, but my sister's birthday is very soon and I really need to know if I can still give this breed. I ask you not to comment that I am too trusting, that I believe any information on the Internet. I have not dealt with cat breeds and therefore the Internet is the only thing that has given me at least some information so far. But I also want to know about some personal experience with this breed and that's why I turned to you. What do you say?","c_root_id_A":"ip90cw0","c_root_id_B":"ip99cit","created_at_utc_A":1663710024,"created_at_utc_B":1663713833,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Do not buy animals as gifts! Especially to children.  She loves anime now\u2026 next year probably not so much.","human_ref_B":"I would talk to your parents. Let them know you want to get her a cat and ask their thoughts.  If it\u2019s a family gift and they or you are willing to take on pet insurance, vet fees, litter and food costs etc, if they\u2019re on board, then check on breeds and availability. Also, really figure out if she wants an ANIME cat or an anime CAT.  Sometimes my kids get into a phase (ie \u201cThe summer of lemonade stands\u201d) and they don\u2019t actually want to do the lemonade stand. They\u2019ll do it once and be over it and we can move on. If your family are animal people and have animals now, it may be easier to get her one because it\u2019s just one more. (Except for making sure it gets along with everyone.). But if not, it\u2019s definitely a (wonderful and welcome, in our case) big adjustment.   When it comes to health - I\u2019ve heard all kinds of nightmarish scenarios from people who have lost animals. It\u2019s always heartbreaking. But if I knew a breed had a lot of health issues, I would personally steer clear and go with a different option. That\u2019s one of the reasons you should figure out if she just really wants a cat, or if she really likes anime.  Have the conversation about adoption from a rescue, go to petsmart and see those cats.  I hope she has a happy birthday!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3809.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xhfn0t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"is it okay to feed my cat Applaws brand fish filets every morning? i have been feeding him a fish filet every morning as a treat but now I\u2019m reading that feeding cats fish every day is bad\u2026 the brand itself says it\u2019s okay for daily feeding but now I\u2019m reading some stuff that says otherwise.. help is really appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"ioyqvfw","c_root_id_B":"ioydze1","created_at_utc_A":1663528362,"created_at_utc_B":1663523664,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Does he have any past urinary issues? Is this given as a treat?","human_ref_B":"Is it aafco certified for maintenance?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4698.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"xhfn0t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"is it okay to feed my cat Applaws brand fish filets every morning? i have been feeding him a fish filet every morning as a treat but now I\u2019m reading that feeding cats fish every day is bad\u2026 the brand itself says it\u2019s okay for daily feeding but now I\u2019m reading some stuff that says otherwise.. help is really appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"ioydze1","c_root_id_B":"ioz2qnd","created_at_utc_A":1663523664,"created_at_utc_B":1663532659,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Is it aafco certified for maintenance?","human_ref_B":"Unless your vet has mentioned some contraindication, this is fine  Feeding a \u201ccat food fish\u201d every day is different from feeding fresh fish daily (which would not be okay)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8995.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"wuy6we","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.75,"history":"Why are vet visits billed the way they are Hey there, so I know you're constantly answering the question \"why so expensive??\" and this isn't that. I'm just really confused why I get billed the way I do. I will gladly pay $500 a pop for my little companions to be healthy and all that. I'd rather pay all that bit by bit as they age than have them at the end of their life in and out of the ER for something preventable that's now terribly painful for them. I get that.     What I don't like is why no matter where I go, I don't get a cost quote or when I do it's way lower than the bill at the end. I like to come prepared but I'm only getting started on my savings, so it makes more sense to me that when I book that appointment you give me an estimate and I come with that much money prepared. But each and every time it's like the worst game of elephant in the room and then I go to check out and SURPRISE it's double what I'm quoted.      Why are vet offices never upfront about the cost you're going to be paying *even though* they're super aggro about you paying it then and there? You wouldn't have that problem if you were upfront (and if you did you'd have more precedence to be so judgmental when someone can't pay it.) At the very least you could help the issue by having a running calculation during the appointment so it isn't so much of a surprise by the end. Could've avoided a whole super awkward thing there if I could have A. been told to bring more money beforehand or B. been given itemized prices so I could give her what she needed right away and budgeted for the rest later.     This isn't a vent post. I'm sure you all do it that way for a reason but I really don't understand it and I hope a conversation around it could maybe lead to some changes because I 100% believe this is why people avoid taking their pets in to see a vet. Nobody likes going into an office and then coming out with a surprise bill and having to stand in front of everyone and be judged for not being able to pay.","c_root_id_A":"ileeme4","c_root_id_B":"ilet6pz","created_at_utc_A":1661218236,"created_at_utc_B":1661225073,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Totally depends on the clinic. The clinic I\u2019m at will do estimates for a basic exam and diagnostics, and then create new estimates based on those findings. We had too many clients just straight up not willing to pay without an explanation (sometimes even with one), so all estimates are high. Always. Different practices have wildly different protocols, though.","human_ref_B":"In Canada, I\u2019m quoted with a high\/low range that I must sign prior to treatment. Not sure why your vets don\u2019t do that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6837.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"bfusml","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"[please help] Was playing with my 4 month puppy tug and one of his tooth came out flying and he is bleeding. I don\u2019t know that to do and I don\u2019t want to tell this to my sister (the real dog owner) English cocker spaniel  4 months old Male","c_root_id_A":"elgrmol","c_root_id_B":"elgukqr","created_at_utc_A":1555896807,"created_at_utc_B":1555899247,"score_A":30,"score_B":82,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s totally normal! It\u2019s baby teeth!","human_ref_B":"I know I\u2019ll sound nuts but you may want to tell your sister and give her the tooth. I saved my pups first lost tooth. Yes I\u2019m that crazy dog mom but I\u2019m not having kids and I felt like it was significant to keep it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2440.0,"score_ratio":2.7333333333}
{"post_id":"bfusml","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"[please help] Was playing with my 4 month puppy tug and one of his tooth came out flying and he is bleeding. I don\u2019t know that to do and I don\u2019t want to tell this to my sister (the real dog owner) English cocker spaniel  4 months old Male","c_root_id_A":"elggepx","c_root_id_B":"elgukqr","created_at_utc_A":1555887400,"created_at_utc_B":1555899247,"score_A":2,"score_B":82,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I know I\u2019ll sound nuts but you may want to tell your sister and give her the tooth. I saved my pups first lost tooth. Yes I\u2019m that crazy dog mom but I\u2019m not having kids and I felt like it was significant to keep it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11847.0,"score_ratio":41.0}
{"post_id":"bfusml","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"[please help] Was playing with my 4 month puppy tug and one of his tooth came out flying and he is bleeding. I don\u2019t know that to do and I don\u2019t want to tell this to my sister (the real dog owner) English cocker spaniel  4 months old Male","c_root_id_A":"elgrmol","c_root_id_B":"elggepx","created_at_utc_A":1555896807,"created_at_utc_B":1555887400,"score_A":30,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s totally normal! It\u2019s baby teeth!","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9407.0,"score_ratio":15.0}
{"post_id":"bfusml","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"[please help] Was playing with my 4 month puppy tug and one of his tooth came out flying and he is bleeding. I don\u2019t know that to do and I don\u2019t want to tell this to my sister (the real dog owner) English cocker spaniel  4 months old Male","c_root_id_A":"elgvksh","c_root_id_B":"elggepx","created_at_utc_A":1555899986,"created_at_utc_B":1555887400,"score_A":20,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s normal!!! He\u2019s the right age to start losing baby teeth :)","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12586.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"bfusml","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"[please help] Was playing with my 4 month puppy tug and one of his tooth came out flying and he is bleeding. I don\u2019t know that to do and I don\u2019t want to tell this to my sister (the real dog owner) English cocker spaniel  4 months old Male","c_root_id_A":"elggepx","c_root_id_B":"elgz0ks","created_at_utc_A":1555887400,"created_at_utc_B":1555902685,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"From other comments I would say it\u2019s fine and just a baby tooth (as long as it stops bleeding) but save the tooth and tell your sister!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15285.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"sezrqx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. Woke to a loud thud after my dog had jumped down from my bed, found her lying in an awkward position, soiling herself. 15min later she has come outside, declining food and more diarrhoea. 6am here will go to vet\u2019s when they open. Dog, staffy x shar pei She\u2019ll be 15 in June, an old girl Neutered Roughly 25kg No history of illness, but I\u2019v been slack with yearly shots. Duration has been just the last 30min In rural australia","c_root_id_A":"hunrdly","c_root_id_B":"huqfa3t","created_at_utc_A":1643417546,"created_at_utc_B":1643473058,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Oh no...poor baby... hope she does ok... sending big hugs and positive vibes.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss \ud83d\ude14","labels":0,"seconds_difference":55512.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ygm77s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my dog dying? Internal bleeding? Please help!  Species: Dog  Age: 11 years  Sex\/Neuter status: male\/not neutered  Breed: Maltese  Body weight: 4.6kg  History: heart failure (diagnosed 3-4 years ago)  Clinical signs: coughing on and off, collapsed while at rest last night, did not move, belly became bigger\/swollen more than usual.  He had collapsed before after the HF diagnosis but only when running\/walking and it is more like a seizure. This time he just collapsed. Brought him to emergency vet.   Duration: a day   Information: his blood work was fine apart from PLT - 599 (normal range 200\/500), PCT - 0.479 (normal range 0.150-0.400, urea 12.8 (normal range ( normal range 2.3-9.1), ALP - 266 (normal range <130), ALT - 686 (normal range <113). The vet basically said that the raised platelets indicates bleeding somewhere and raised ALT\/ALP with urea is likely from a tumour. Basically gave a few days or a week to live and then euthanise our dog but he did not do any scans or xrays as he wouldn\u2019t survive surgery.  How likely it is to be internal bleeding? His belly did swell up a bit in a short amount of time although he had a distended belly for quite some time (other vet said not too worry) but did not get any bigger. He eats and drinks, he does not seem to be in pain, he gained weight in general over the year . I am just worried that if he is bleeding, what do I do?:( why else would his belly become bigger? Fluid build up?","c_root_id_A":"iu9wh15","c_root_id_B":"iu9g6sh","created_at_utc_A":1667067414,"created_at_utc_B":1667060537,"score_A":48,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"It's quite likely that your dog is in what is called \"forward heart failure\". The collapse you are describing is an event called syncope. This, along with other clinical signs (such as coughing, exercise intolerance, lethargy), are very common in dogs with heart disease.  My interpretation of the labs would be as follows:   \\-Increased urea: decreased urea filtration by the kidneys due to insufficient cardiac output (the kidneys just aren't getting the blood pressure they need to filter as efficiently).   \\-Increased ALT and ALP: could it be a liver tumor? Sure. But this could also be due to heart failure and what is called hepatic congestion.   \\-Increased PLT\/PCT: this indicates that your dog is making more platelets. I never learned that internal bleeding is a cause of increased platelets. In fact, I learned that it's a rare occurance and we don't really know why it happens. In some cases, it can indicate chronic blood loss, low iron, or a bone marrow disease. Honestly, without anemia (a decrease in RBCs), I would be suspicious of internal bleeding.  If this were my dog, I would be going for a second opinion today and an abdominocentesis. The other individual who commented that vets do not like to perform abdominocentesis is not right. Vets do it all the time. It is safe and a very effective way to get the fluid out of the abdomen. It's not hard on the body, and it won't rob your dog of any nutrients.  If you follow up with a cardiologist, contact them ASAP to see if medications can be adjusted. If you do not have your dog see a cardiologist, I would suggest asking for a referral to one if you'd like to try longer term management. I do want to let you know that at some point, however, dogs with heart failure can no longer be medically managed. I cannot tell you this is the case without doing an exam.","human_ref_B":"With heart failure abdominal swelling is not atypical as the heart weakens and fluid can leak out.   This is a late stage symptom unfortunately.  It is possible to do an abdominocentesis procedure to drain the fluid to reduce discomfort from extreme swelling but it is a short term solution and many vets don't like to do it because it's hard on the dog's body and removes nutrients from the fluid that otherwise gets reabsotbed by the body.  And it is a compounding issue as the more you drain typically the faster it can fill back up and is really not solving any underlying issues.    You may consider trying to get it done if you need more time with your dog and the quality of life is good  but given your pup is collapsing, it may be kinder to make the difficult decision now (just my 2 cents, and I don't mean to be callous- whatever decision you make will always be the right one and is always a combination of your pet's quality of life and your own needs and processing time).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6877.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ygm77s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my dog dying? Internal bleeding? Please help!  Species: Dog  Age: 11 years  Sex\/Neuter status: male\/not neutered  Breed: Maltese  Body weight: 4.6kg  History: heart failure (diagnosed 3-4 years ago)  Clinical signs: coughing on and off, collapsed while at rest last night, did not move, belly became bigger\/swollen more than usual.  He had collapsed before after the HF diagnosis but only when running\/walking and it is more like a seizure. This time he just collapsed. Brought him to emergency vet.   Duration: a day   Information: his blood work was fine apart from PLT - 599 (normal range 200\/500), PCT - 0.479 (normal range 0.150-0.400, urea 12.8 (normal range ( normal range 2.3-9.1), ALP - 266 (normal range <130), ALT - 686 (normal range <113). The vet basically said that the raised platelets indicates bleeding somewhere and raised ALT\/ALP with urea is likely from a tumour. Basically gave a few days or a week to live and then euthanise our dog but he did not do any scans or xrays as he wouldn\u2019t survive surgery.  How likely it is to be internal bleeding? His belly did swell up a bit in a short amount of time although he had a distended belly for quite some time (other vet said not too worry) but did not get any bigger. He eats and drinks, he does not seem to be in pain, he gained weight in general over the year . I am just worried that if he is bleeding, what do I do?:( why else would his belly become bigger? Fluid build up?","c_root_id_A":"iu9wh15","c_root_id_B":"iu99zkr","created_at_utc_A":1667067414,"created_at_utc_B":1667057850,"score_A":48,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"It's quite likely that your dog is in what is called \"forward heart failure\". The collapse you are describing is an event called syncope. This, along with other clinical signs (such as coughing, exercise intolerance, lethargy), are very common in dogs with heart disease.  My interpretation of the labs would be as follows:   \\-Increased urea: decreased urea filtration by the kidneys due to insufficient cardiac output (the kidneys just aren't getting the blood pressure they need to filter as efficiently).   \\-Increased ALT and ALP: could it be a liver tumor? Sure. But this could also be due to heart failure and what is called hepatic congestion.   \\-Increased PLT\/PCT: this indicates that your dog is making more platelets. I never learned that internal bleeding is a cause of increased platelets. In fact, I learned that it's a rare occurance and we don't really know why it happens. In some cases, it can indicate chronic blood loss, low iron, or a bone marrow disease. Honestly, without anemia (a decrease in RBCs), I would be suspicious of internal bleeding.  If this were my dog, I would be going for a second opinion today and an abdominocentesis. The other individual who commented that vets do not like to perform abdominocentesis is not right. Vets do it all the time. It is safe and a very effective way to get the fluid out of the abdomen. It's not hard on the body, and it won't rob your dog of any nutrients.  If you follow up with a cardiologist, contact them ASAP to see if medications can be adjusted. If you do not have your dog see a cardiologist, I would suggest asking for a referral to one if you'd like to try longer term management. I do want to let you know that at some point, however, dogs with heart failure can no longer be medically managed. I cannot tell you this is the case without doing an exam.","human_ref_B":"Abdominal and heart ultrasound ASAP","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9564.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"ygm77s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Is my dog dying? Internal bleeding? Please help!  Species: Dog  Age: 11 years  Sex\/Neuter status: male\/not neutered  Breed: Maltese  Body weight: 4.6kg  History: heart failure (diagnosed 3-4 years ago)  Clinical signs: coughing on and off, collapsed while at rest last night, did not move, belly became bigger\/swollen more than usual.  He had collapsed before after the HF diagnosis but only when running\/walking and it is more like a seizure. This time he just collapsed. Brought him to emergency vet.   Duration: a day   Information: his blood work was fine apart from PLT - 599 (normal range 200\/500), PCT - 0.479 (normal range 0.150-0.400, urea 12.8 (normal range ( normal range 2.3-9.1), ALP - 266 (normal range <130), ALT - 686 (normal range <113). The vet basically said that the raised platelets indicates bleeding somewhere and raised ALT\/ALP with urea is likely from a tumour. Basically gave a few days or a week to live and then euthanise our dog but he did not do any scans or xrays as he wouldn\u2019t survive surgery.  How likely it is to be internal bleeding? His belly did swell up a bit in a short amount of time although he had a distended belly for quite some time (other vet said not too worry) but did not get any bigger. He eats and drinks, he does not seem to be in pain, he gained weight in general over the year . I am just worried that if he is bleeding, what do I do?:( why else would his belly become bigger? Fluid build up?","c_root_id_A":"iu99zkr","c_root_id_B":"iu9g6sh","created_at_utc_A":1667057850,"created_at_utc_B":1667060537,"score_A":6,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Abdominal and heart ultrasound ASAP","human_ref_B":"With heart failure abdominal swelling is not atypical as the heart weakens and fluid can leak out.   This is a late stage symptom unfortunately.  It is possible to do an abdominocentesis procedure to drain the fluid to reduce discomfort from extreme swelling but it is a short term solution and many vets don't like to do it because it's hard on the dog's body and removes nutrients from the fluid that otherwise gets reabsotbed by the body.  And it is a compounding issue as the more you drain typically the faster it can fill back up and is really not solving any underlying issues.    You may consider trying to get it done if you need more time with your dog and the quality of life is good  but given your pup is collapsing, it may be kinder to make the difficult decision now (just my 2 cents, and I don't mean to be callous- whatever decision you make will always be the right one and is always a combination of your pet's quality of life and your own needs and processing time).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2687.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"et7ay0","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help! My dog just gave birth to 14 puppies. 3 have died and one is looking weak. Our home vet won't be there for a few hours. Do you have any emergency advise? One is really weak already and it's not looking good. The dogs are back home with my parents and they've been sending us updates. Please help. Please.","c_root_id_A":"ffekx3j","c_root_id_B":"ffelhpf","created_at_utc_A":1579852372,"created_at_utc_B":1579853116,"score_A":9,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Emergency vet","human_ref_B":"Keep the pups warm and if they're not suckling then give them a helping hand by putting them close to mum.  Is it quicker to get to an emergency vet than waiting for a home visit? Time is of the essence so you need to take the faster option","labels":0,"seconds_difference":744.0,"score_ratio":2.5555555556}
{"post_id":"eld6l2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Childhood dog passed very unexpectedly, was wondering if this group could help me figure out what happened. Hi all, been a very upsetting start to the new year, my dog passed away 2 days ago and we have no idea what caused it.   She was a mix between a mini poodle and a mini Australian shepherd I believe. She was 13. We had taken her to the vet about a month ago, she had to get all her teeth pulled, but the vet told us her lungs were great, she was a bit overweight, but otherwise healthy, and he thought she'd live for another 1-3 years.   The older she got the more she started wheezing, hard for her to jump and what not, we always tried to assist her. She was probably about 20-25 pounds.   Sunday morning, about 1 AM she started wheezing a lot worse than she normally does. The past two days before that she was more coughy than normal as well, but we didnt think much of it. At about 5 AM she went into my parents room and would not leave, she sounded like she was gasping for air. My mom laid her on a blanket on the ground and tried to calm her, within those 30 minutes blood started to come out from her nose and she struggled more for breath, then she was just gone. We have no idea what may have happened and I feel awful, like we could have prevented it if we had gotten her in earlier. But I have to know what happened, if you have any ideas I would really appreciate it for some closure.   Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"fdh1tmu","c_root_id_B":"fdh5q4l","created_at_utc_A":1578413542,"created_at_utc_B":1578415951,"score_A":23,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"The only way to know would be to have the vet perform a necropsy (animal version of an autopsy), and even then, that may prove inconclusive.","human_ref_B":"As the other poster said, the best chance of knowing for sure is to have a necropsy performed. If that's not possible, you could see if the vet who performed her most recent physical exam has any thoughts, but be fully prepared for them to say they don't know either.  I know this must be difficult, and I very much understand the desire for answers, but unfortunately we don't always get the information we want when we're dealing with medical issues in pets. It sounds like your dog lived a long, happy, and healthy life with a wonderful loving family. She knew love her whole life, and in her final moments she was comforted. I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope you can find some peace and comfort in the happy memories that you shared with her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2409.0,"score_ratio":1.8260869565}
{"post_id":"uculop","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Rescued kitten is falling while walking, have started testing her for fading kitten syndrome but not sure about it. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/cat\/comments\/uctstr\/does_anyone_know_what_this_id_and_how_can_i_help\/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share  This is the video of the kitten, had taken her to a vet, and they don't have much of an idea, they do think this might be some infection, but didn't prescribe any meds or drips. We had lost her brother yesterday and he showed similar symptoms.   * Species: cat  * Age: 4 week  * Sex\/Neuter status: female * Breed: indie  * Body weight: 125 grams * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration:an hour * Your general location:Chhattisgarh India * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:","c_root_id_A":"i6cxos1","c_root_id_B":"i6fh7pl","created_at_utc_A":1651031417,"created_at_utc_B":1651082429,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"The symptom is called ataxia\u2026 it means there is a loss of balance and can be caused my many things such as a tumor inside the brain or spine (unlikely since the other cat has it as well) or may be caused by an infection (more likely since this may have been transmitted by the other cat. Infections that cause ataxia may include ear infection, in which case some antibacterial ear drops, would help, or by a bacterial infection or viral infection that has spread to the brain or spinal cord and caused localized inflammation. The latter is much more serious as it implies that the infection is already quite far gone. Is the cat having any other symptoms? If it\u2019s an infection she likely will need IV antibiotics which would need to be done in hospital.   This is all just speculation, I do NOT work in a veterinary field.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":51012.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uculop","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Rescued kitten is falling while walking, have started testing her for fading kitten syndrome but not sure about it. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/cat\/comments\/uctstr\/does_anyone_know_what_this_id_and_how_can_i_help\/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share  This is the video of the kitten, had taken her to a vet, and they don't have much of an idea, they do think this might be some infection, but didn't prescribe any meds or drips. We had lost her brother yesterday and he showed similar symptoms.   * Species: cat  * Age: 4 week  * Sex\/Neuter status: female * Breed: indie  * Body weight: 125 grams * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration:an hour * Your general location:Chhattisgarh India * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:","c_root_id_A":"i6eedmc","c_root_id_B":"i6fh7pl","created_at_utc_A":1651067023,"created_at_utc_B":1651082429,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for caring for her and trying to get her help.   While the comments on your post on r\/cats may be right, your kitten does looks quite unwell on top of that. In addition, i am not familiar with the prevalences or certain diseases and conditions in your particular location, so there is always the possibility that there is another cause. You can ask your vet about their top differential diagnoses.   How have you been feeding her? What deworming has been done? Is the mother around?","human_ref_B":"The symptom is called ataxia\u2026 it means there is a loss of balance and can be caused my many things such as a tumor inside the brain or spine (unlikely since the other cat has it as well) or may be caused by an infection (more likely since this may have been transmitted by the other cat. Infections that cause ataxia may include ear infection, in which case some antibacterial ear drops, would help, or by a bacterial infection or viral infection that has spread to the brain or spinal cord and caused localized inflammation. The latter is much more serious as it implies that the infection is already quite far gone. Is the cat having any other symptoms? If it\u2019s an infection she likely will need IV antibiotics which would need to be done in hospital.   This is all just speculation, I do NOT work in a veterinary field.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15406.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uculop","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Rescued kitten is falling while walking, have started testing her for fading kitten syndrome but not sure about it. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/cat\/comments\/uctstr\/does_anyone_know_what_this_id_and_how_can_i_help\/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share  This is the video of the kitten, had taken her to a vet, and they don't have much of an idea, they do think this might be some infection, but didn't prescribe any meds or drips. We had lost her brother yesterday and he showed similar symptoms.   * Species: cat  * Age: 4 week  * Sex\/Neuter status: female * Breed: indie  * Body weight: 125 grams * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration:an hour * Your general location:Chhattisgarh India * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:","c_root_id_A":"i6cxos1","c_root_id_B":"i6fsv9a","created_at_utc_A":1651031417,"created_at_utc_B":1651087080,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"She is malnourished feed her!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":55663.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uculop","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Rescued kitten is falling while walking, have started testing her for fading kitten syndrome but not sure about it. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/cat\/comments\/uctstr\/does_anyone_know_what_this_id_and_how_can_i_help\/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share  This is the video of the kitten, had taken her to a vet, and they don't have much of an idea, they do think this might be some infection, but didn't prescribe any meds or drips. We had lost her brother yesterday and he showed similar symptoms.   * Species: cat  * Age: 4 week  * Sex\/Neuter status: female * Breed: indie  * Body weight: 125 grams * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration:an hour * Your general location:Chhattisgarh India * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:","c_root_id_A":"i6eedmc","c_root_id_B":"i6fsv9a","created_at_utc_A":1651067023,"created_at_utc_B":1651087080,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for caring for her and trying to get her help.   While the comments on your post on r\/cats may be right, your kitten does looks quite unwell on top of that. In addition, i am not familiar with the prevalences or certain diseases and conditions in your particular location, so there is always the possibility that there is another cause. You can ask your vet about their top differential diagnoses.   How have you been feeding her? What deworming has been done? Is the mother around?","human_ref_B":"She is malnourished feed her!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20057.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"wrtx0i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it legit to not allow family into an operating room when a dog has to be euthanised? Hi,  My dog had a few medical issues over the last few weeks and yesterday her leg got all swollen. We brought her to the vet and they scheduled an Xray for this morning. When they performed it they found that she had 'numerous' tumors internally and that there was nothing to be done. She had most likely been in pain for a little while already but, due to the unnatural heat wave we've had, we attributed her lethargy to that.   The vet gave us two options (this was over the phone). 1 was to allow her to pass peacefully in her anesthetised state and the other was to wake her to allow us to say our goodbyes.   The vet explained that were we to do that she would be in a lot of pain and discomfort compounded with the procedure she was undergoing and that she would have to be given a heavy painkiller. We decided that, heart breaking as it was, we would allow her to stay asleep since waking her would have really just been for our benefit\/guilt and not hers.   I asked if it would be possible to be with her while she passed even is she wasn't woken since in my mind, anesthesia or not, she could still sense she wasn't alone somehow (that's probably not true but I wanted to try). We were told that as she was in the operating room that wouldn't be possible. We aren't allowed in there and she would have to be moved to another room and that would involve waking her.  Is this standard procedure in these scenarios?   Honestly I feel sick that her last hours were waiting in a vet clinic alone without us there and would give anything to change it so that she was able to just pass peacefully with a full belly at the end of my bed.   I'm sorry for rambling but I just thought it was strange that we weren't able to be with her. She's 12 years old and has never spent more than a few hours alone before.","c_root_id_A":"ikvbe7a","c_root_id_B":"ikwdqjo","created_at_utc_A":1660868581,"created_at_utc_B":1660888124,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I'm so, so sorry.  It's a hideous decision to make and not being with your dog must have made things even more unbearable for you.","human_ref_B":"As others have said depends on the hospital layout. In the UK a lot of practices are quite small so the x-ray room is the operation room and often both small, sterile and not covered in insurance for members of the public to enter. It's a peaceful way to go under general anaesthetic, by its nature they are already asleep and not in pain. Its very much like passing peacefully in their sleep at home.   I'm very sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19543.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"wrtx0i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it legit to not allow family into an operating room when a dog has to be euthanised? Hi,  My dog had a few medical issues over the last few weeks and yesterday her leg got all swollen. We brought her to the vet and they scheduled an Xray for this morning. When they performed it they found that she had 'numerous' tumors internally and that there was nothing to be done. She had most likely been in pain for a little while already but, due to the unnatural heat wave we've had, we attributed her lethargy to that.   The vet gave us two options (this was over the phone). 1 was to allow her to pass peacefully in her anesthetised state and the other was to wake her to allow us to say our goodbyes.   The vet explained that were we to do that she would be in a lot of pain and discomfort compounded with the procedure she was undergoing and that she would have to be given a heavy painkiller. We decided that, heart breaking as it was, we would allow her to stay asleep since waking her would have really just been for our benefit\/guilt and not hers.   I asked if it would be possible to be with her while she passed even is she wasn't woken since in my mind, anesthesia or not, she could still sense she wasn't alone somehow (that's probably not true but I wanted to try). We were told that as she was in the operating room that wouldn't be possible. We aren't allowed in there and she would have to be moved to another room and that would involve waking her.  Is this standard procedure in these scenarios?   Honestly I feel sick that her last hours were waiting in a vet clinic alone without us there and would give anything to change it so that she was able to just pass peacefully with a full belly at the end of my bed.   I'm sorry for rambling but I just thought it was strange that we weren't able to be with her. She's 12 years old and has never spent more than a few hours alone before.","c_root_id_A":"ikvd3mm","c_root_id_B":"ikwdqjo","created_at_utc_A":1660869348,"created_at_utc_B":1660888124,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Curious why your pet was under anesthesia and in an operating room for x-rays?","human_ref_B":"As others have said depends on the hospital layout. In the UK a lot of practices are quite small so the x-ray room is the operation room and often both small, sterile and not covered in insurance for members of the public to enter. It's a peaceful way to go under general anaesthetic, by its nature they are already asleep and not in pain. Its very much like passing peacefully in their sleep at home.   I'm very sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18776.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"wrtx0i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it legit to not allow family into an operating room when a dog has to be euthanised? Hi,  My dog had a few medical issues over the last few weeks and yesterday her leg got all swollen. We brought her to the vet and they scheduled an Xray for this morning. When they performed it they found that she had 'numerous' tumors internally and that there was nothing to be done. She had most likely been in pain for a little while already but, due to the unnatural heat wave we've had, we attributed her lethargy to that.   The vet gave us two options (this was over the phone). 1 was to allow her to pass peacefully in her anesthetised state and the other was to wake her to allow us to say our goodbyes.   The vet explained that were we to do that she would be in a lot of pain and discomfort compounded with the procedure she was undergoing and that she would have to be given a heavy painkiller. We decided that, heart breaking as it was, we would allow her to stay asleep since waking her would have really just been for our benefit\/guilt and not hers.   I asked if it would be possible to be with her while she passed even is she wasn't woken since in my mind, anesthesia or not, she could still sense she wasn't alone somehow (that's probably not true but I wanted to try). We were told that as she was in the operating room that wouldn't be possible. We aren't allowed in there and she would have to be moved to another room and that would involve waking her.  Is this standard procedure in these scenarios?   Honestly I feel sick that her last hours were waiting in a vet clinic alone without us there and would give anything to change it so that she was able to just pass peacefully with a full belly at the end of my bed.   I'm sorry for rambling but I just thought it was strange that we weren't able to be with her. She's 12 years old and has never spent more than a few hours alone before.","c_root_id_A":"iky8ee7","c_root_id_B":"ikvd3mm","created_at_utc_A":1660925507,"created_at_utc_B":1660869348,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I don't know about procedure, sorry.  Just wanted to leave my condolences and a hug for you. Unfortunately I have been in almost the exact same situation with a cat a few years ago and it still haunts me to this day. Also had to decide over the phone to not have him wake up and suffer. I am crying again as I write this.   You made the absolute right decision for your doggo, 100%. You couldn't have predicted that. And still it sucks and is not at all ideal for her to have been alone and afraid in her last waking moments. She would have deserved a more peaceful death for sure, as do we all, but sometimes that's just not in the cards and there's nothing we can do about it. I wish you all the best. I'm sorry you're going through this and time does mellow the pain. Also, for me it was kind of cathartic that now, years later, we were able to give his sister a pain free, dignified death at home after a weekend saying goodbye and spoiling her to bits. I know if given the chance you would have done\/will do the same.","human_ref_B":"Curious why your pet was under anesthesia and in an operating room for x-rays?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":56159.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"twtgdd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet gave my dog wrong shot I took My dog to get a free rabies shot at the city event that the shelter was holding instead of paying 170 for a vet visit , I brought all of his vet records and the vet there accidentally gave him his distemper booster only 6 days after he just received it\u2026I am worried if anything will arise from this please help. He has shown no side effects but are there any long term consequences to receiving the wrong vaccine?","c_root_id_A":"i3haifg","c_root_id_B":"i3hjtga","created_at_utc_A":1649160492,"created_at_utc_B":1649165129,"score_A":2,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"There should be no effect.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4637.0,"score_ratio":28.5}
{"post_id":"twtgdd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vet gave my dog wrong shot I took My dog to get a free rabies shot at the city event that the shelter was holding instead of paying 170 for a vet visit , I brought all of his vet records and the vet there accidentally gave him his distemper booster only 6 days after he just received it\u2026I am worried if anything will arise from this please help. He has shown no side effects but are there any long term consequences to receiving the wrong vaccine?","c_root_id_A":"i3haig0","c_root_id_B":"i3hjtga","created_at_utc_A":1649160492,"created_at_utc_B":1649165129,"score_A":2,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Distemper. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Distemper vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options can be found here and here.   The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat distemper, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Medicines may include anti-nausea, anti-biotics, and anti-seizure medications. The mortality rate for adult dogs is about 50% and is greater than 80% for puppies.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that most household disinfectants will kill the virus and it dies within hours outside the host at room temperatures. However, it can last several weeks in cold, near freezing conditions. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated household for a period of 2 months to be on the safe side.   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"There should be no effect.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4637.0,"score_ratio":28.5}
{"post_id":"pu7dil","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog is scared of attention from strangers- What\u2019s the best way to communicate this to my vet office? I have a rescue dog who was hoarded with approx. 100 other dogs. His very brief experiences with humans during his formative months were negative, so he\u2019s scared of strangers. He\u2019s come a LONG way from not being able to walk outside, hear loud noises, or have anyone approach him. With some training, he now chooses to approach strangers happily and quickly. However, his main struggle is when strangers give him attention. This means talking, eye contact, petting, etc. He doesn\u2019t want to be acknowledged by strangers until it\u2019s his choice.  Today he peed and pooped himself for the third time at the vet. I\u2019m not able to go with him during his appointment due to COVID, but I got to walk him in the building. I told the vet techs that he makes progress quickly when he\u2019s ignored, meaning no talking or petting. The vet techs acknowledged that but they didn\u2019t change their behavior so he kept getting more and more freaked out before I had to return to my car.   What would be the most productive way to communicate to the vet\u2019s office that he needs to be treated differently? I want to make these visits easier on my dog and on the vet. I\u2019ve found that the majority of people don\u2019t listen when I explain that he doesn\u2019t like attention and ask for them to not talk to my dog- that\u2019s hard habit for some to break. We also don\u2019t have the same vet tech every time, and just getting one person to actually ignore him is tough enough. Feeling a little lost and would appreciate any input!","c_root_id_A":"he316bm","c_root_id_B":"he1swmg","created_at_utc_A":1632486820,"created_at_utc_B":1632454743,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Tech here, just jumping in to say that Fear Free could definitely be a great option for your pup! I\u2019ve gone through the certification myself, and there is SO much education in the program about interpreting body language, low-stress handling techniques, and knowing when to stop vs. further upsetting a patient. It sounds like your pup needs someone who is willing to take their time and come to him on his terms, not theirs, and that\u2019s what Fear Free is all about!   Mental well-being is so often overlooked in this profession, and it seems like you\u2019re doing an amazing job of understanding your dog\u2019s anxieties and looking out for his best interest. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"For one of ours, who has similar issues, we just had a direct conversation with the vet... so we're sometimes doing \"happy visits\" which are just to come to the vet, get treats, maybe get a few pets or a walk around the block, and then go. For some of the visits where we know he's going to be particularly unfriendly (butt stuff), we have some \\[redacted to ensure I follow the rules\\] pills that we give him the night before, so he's more relaxed the day of the vet (downside, getting a drowsy 100lb dog into the back of a truck is a challenge).  Generally speaking though, if you have a family vet that you already like, just give them a call and explain the situation directly... odds are they already have a few... we'll just say \"less than enthusiastic\" pups that they deal with.  We've also found (maybe not an option depending on what's going on) for some visits, bringing both the challenging dog and his more docile sister helps, because he can see what the vet does for her, see that it doesn't hurt and she's not having problems, then he isn't so agitated when it is his turn. She also... well, she's social, so it provides everyone with an outlet to focus on that isn't him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":32077.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yjsakz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.73,"history":"kitten with eye infection, but can't afford to take him to the vet. This morning I found a kitten on the sidewalk with its eyes glued shut with.eye boogers. I immediately picked him up snd took him to my car where I cleaned his eyes with water and a rag and puss came out. I'm from a low income family and can't afford to take him to the vet, im.not sure what to do. I nursed him back to health but my mom thinks we can rescue his eyes but I'm not so sure! Any help, or advice is appreciated!","c_root_id_A":"iuplyo3","c_root_id_B":"iuptqtv","created_at_utc_A":1667355480,"created_at_utc_B":1667359169,"score_A":65,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Try giving him to a shelter with the resources to be able to help him.","human_ref_B":"please call a shelter and ask what financial assistance programs you can contact for vet bills. you can also call local vets and see if they give good samaritan discounts as that can also help with bringing the cost down.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3689.0,"score_ratio":1.3384615385}
{"post_id":"yjsakz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.73,"history":"kitten with eye infection, but can't afford to take him to the vet. This morning I found a kitten on the sidewalk with its eyes glued shut with.eye boogers. I immediately picked him up snd took him to my car where I cleaned his eyes with water and a rag and puss came out. I'm from a low income family and can't afford to take him to the vet, im.not sure what to do. I nursed him back to health but my mom thinks we can rescue his eyes but I'm not so sure! Any help, or advice is appreciated!","c_root_id_A":"iur017m","c_root_id_B":"iury03e","created_at_utc_A":1667390533,"created_at_utc_B":1667405607,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for helping the kitten! We need more people like you in this world.","human_ref_B":"You\u2019ve gotten good ideas here for searching for vet bill assistance. If it turns out that you\u2019re unable to QUICKLY find enough help to take care of him (very, very, very quickly - timing is crucial with ophthalmology), please surrender the kitten to your local shelter. They will have resources to help this little guy and can hopefully save his eyes (as well as getting him the necessary vaccines and neutering) and they\u2019ll be able to adopt him out into a loving, financially stable home that can take good care of him for the rest of his (hopefully very long) life!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15074.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1ocs7q","c_root_id_B":"j1oapyf","created_at_utc_A":1672019753,"created_at_utc_B":1672018630,"score_A":105,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Only a vet can confirm or deny this. If your puppy is not vaccinated for parvo, call an emergency vet ASAP. Survival rate for Parvovirus is very low without supportive, veterinary care.   Please call the veterinarian before arriving at the clinic with your animal. Parvovirus is extremely contagious and almost impossible to remove from the environment, so they may request that you use a different entrance than the front door or wait outside the clinic\/in your vehicle while they prepare the test.   We consider Canine Parvovirus to be a very serious, life-threatening, and time-sensitive disease. If you have reason to suspect it in your animal, the very best thing you can do is contact a veterinarian immediately.","human_ref_B":"Is he vaccinated?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1123.0,"score_ratio":9.5454545455}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1ocs7q","c_root_id_B":"j1oagox","created_at_utc_A":1672019753,"created_at_utc_B":1672018491,"score_A":105,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Only a vet can confirm or deny this. If your puppy is not vaccinated for parvo, call an emergency vet ASAP. Survival rate for Parvovirus is very low without supportive, veterinary care.   Please call the veterinarian before arriving at the clinic with your animal. Parvovirus is extremely contagious and almost impossible to remove from the environment, so they may request that you use a different entrance than the front door or wait outside the clinic\/in your vehicle while they prepare the test.   We consider Canine Parvovirus to be a very serious, life-threatening, and time-sensitive disease. If you have reason to suspect it in your animal, the very best thing you can do is contact a veterinarian immediately.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1262.0,"score_ratio":52.5}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1oapyf","c_root_id_B":"j1ojbwt","created_at_utc_A":1672018630,"created_at_utc_B":1672023347,"score_A":11,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Is he vaccinated?","human_ref_B":"I agree with getting the little guy to the vet immediately. Parvo is extremely deadly, especially in very young pups. Survival depends on immediate medical intervention, and even then they may not make it.   I really hope your baby is ok, I know how hard this is.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4717.0,"score_ratio":2.2727272727}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1ojbwt","c_root_id_B":"j1oagox","created_at_utc_A":1672023347,"created_at_utc_B":1672018491,"score_A":25,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I agree with getting the little guy to the vet immediately. Parvo is extremely deadly, especially in very young pups. Survival depends on immediate medical intervention, and even then they may not make it.   I really hope your baby is ok, I know how hard this is.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4856.0,"score_ratio":12.5}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1oapyf","c_root_id_B":"j1om8kv","created_at_utc_A":1672018630,"created_at_utc_B":1672024975,"score_A":11,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Is he vaccinated?","human_ref_B":"The incubation period for parvo and most other vital diseases is 3-5 days so it is quite possible to test negative and then show symptoms. If pavo is suspect th you need to see a veterinarian ASAP","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6345.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1oagox","c_root_id_B":"j1om8kv","created_at_utc_A":1672018491,"created_at_utc_B":1672024975,"score_A":2,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"The incubation period for parvo and most other vital diseases is 3-5 days so it is quite possible to test negative and then show symptoms. If pavo is suspect th you need to see a veterinarian ASAP","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6484.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1oagox","c_root_id_B":"j1oapyf","created_at_utc_A":1672018491,"created_at_utc_B":1672018630,"score_A":2,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Is he vaccinated?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":139.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"zvbx5h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I think my puppy has parvo He was fine last night. Really active but something changed at midnight. He was whining, I thought that he was feeling cold. Then, I woke up with to see that he had pooped and has threw up. The poop he did more than once and the other time it had a very strong smell. He just came to our house 3 days ago and was tested for parvo, how did this even happen.","c_root_id_A":"j1oagox","c_root_id_B":"j1r1che","created_at_utc_A":1672018491,"created_at_utc_B":1672080251,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"From someone who had a puppy with Parvo, immediate intervention is their best chance at survival. Please don\u2019t leave it to chance and get to a vet immediately.  Hope things work out well for you. Merry Christmas and best wishes.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":61760.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"z2dyhh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"do dogs know they\u2019re about to be put down? my grandpa put his dog down today. i sat on the floor with him and held his head in my hands while the vet was getting everything ready, and the dog\u2019s head started shaking. i bawled like a mess and i think my heart\u2019s broken. he went quickly and painlessly which is all i ever wanted, but i never wanted him to be scared. could he have known what was going on?","c_root_id_A":"ixhphu2","c_root_id_B":"ixiwdg3","created_at_utc_A":1669216090,"created_at_utc_B":1669233019,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If they are about to be put down, their pain is occupying most of their attention.","human_ref_B":"If anything, your pup was probably shaking because he was stressed in the environment or he could sense your upset. He\u2019s resting now, take solace in the fact that he\u2019s in a better place. Sorry for your loss, it\u2019s never easy losing an animal. I still get really upset thinking about my family dog that passed almost a year ago, fuck I\u2019m crying about him now \ud83d\ude05","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16929.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfeyis","c_root_id_B":"dtfhipx","created_at_utc_A":1517256648,"created_at_utc_B":1517259035,"score_A":10,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"DURING surgery (while anesthetized) or pre\/post Sx?","human_ref_B":"This is not ok. This is not normal. Are you in the US?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2387.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfeyis","c_root_id_B":"dtfmljv","created_at_utc_A":1517256648,"created_at_utc_B":1517263843,"score_A":10,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"DURING surgery (while anesthetized) or pre\/post Sx?","human_ref_B":"Not OK. An adequate plane of anesthesia must be achieved before doing any surgery.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7195.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfmljv","c_root_id_B":"dtfidzc","created_at_utc_A":1517263843,"created_at_utc_B":1517259851,"score_A":26,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Not OK. An adequate plane of anesthesia must be achieved before doing any surgery.","human_ref_B":"That doesn\u2019t sound right.. I have never seen\/heard that.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3992.0,"score_ratio":5.2}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfeyis","c_root_id_B":"dtfyw5z","created_at_utc_A":1517256648,"created_at_utc_B":1517276697,"score_A":10,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"DURING surgery (while anesthetized) or pre\/post Sx?","human_ref_B":"If you are uncomfortable with things you are seeing in your practice, you should bring it up with your doctor for better understanding. If you don\u2019t feel comfortable doing that, or if you don\u2019t think they\u2019ll implement change even if you do and you know what they\u2019re doing is wrong, you can check out the link below, which is a resource for the American Veterinary Medical Association.  https:\/\/www.avma.org\/KB\/Resources\/Reference\/AnimalWelfare\/Pages\/animal-welfare-the-profession.aspx","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20049.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfwecp","c_root_id_B":"dtfyw5z","created_at_utc_A":1517273978,"created_at_utc_B":1517276697,"score_A":8,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Definitely not okay or normal! It sounds like they are too light and feeling some pain or discomfort. This has happened only a handful of times when I\u2019m monitoring anesthesia over the past years and the dr is quick to give more analgesics or turning up the gas a little bit.   If they are only using iv anesthesia, it doesn\u2019t sound adequate enough for the types of surgeries they are doing.   Their plane of anesthesia should be enough for them to be consistent and stable on the table and not feel anything.","human_ref_B":"If you are uncomfortable with things you are seeing in your practice, you should bring it up with your doctor for better understanding. If you don\u2019t feel comfortable doing that, or if you don\u2019t think they\u2019ll implement change even if you do and you know what they\u2019re doing is wrong, you can check out the link below, which is a resource for the American Veterinary Medical Association.  https:\/\/www.avma.org\/KB\/Resources\/Reference\/AnimalWelfare\/Pages\/animal-welfare-the-profession.aspx","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2719.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfidzc","c_root_id_B":"dtfyw5z","created_at_utc_A":1517259851,"created_at_utc_B":1517276697,"score_A":5,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"That doesn\u2019t sound right.. I have never seen\/heard that.","human_ref_B":"If you are uncomfortable with things you are seeing in your practice, you should bring it up with your doctor for better understanding. If you don\u2019t feel comfortable doing that, or if you don\u2019t think they\u2019ll implement change even if you do and you know what they\u2019re doing is wrong, you can check out the link below, which is a resource for the American Veterinary Medical Association.  https:\/\/www.avma.org\/KB\/Resources\/Reference\/AnimalWelfare\/Pages\/animal-welfare-the-profession.aspx","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16846.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtfwecp","c_root_id_B":"dtfidzc","created_at_utc_A":1517273978,"created_at_utc_B":1517259851,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Definitely not okay or normal! It sounds like they are too light and feeling some pain or discomfort. This has happened only a handful of times when I\u2019m monitoring anesthesia over the past years and the dr is quick to give more analgesics or turning up the gas a little bit.   If they are only using iv anesthesia, it doesn\u2019t sound adequate enough for the types of surgeries they are doing.   Their plane of anesthesia should be enough for them to be consistent and stable on the table and not feel anything.","human_ref_B":"That doesn\u2019t sound right.. I have never seen\/heard that.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14127.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"7tuzgy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Is it normal for a dog to howl\/cry during surgery? I recently started working at a vet clinic. Among other questionable events, I've overheard dogs howling and whining for 10-20 minutes while in surgery. It sounds horrifying and I need to know if this is normal.  This has happened twice in the past two weeks (never before in 3 months) both with shelter dogs during spay and neuter surgeries.","c_root_id_A":"dtgee0q","c_root_id_B":"dtfidzc","created_at_utc_A":1517298107,"created_at_utc_B":1517259851,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"please update!!","human_ref_B":"That doesn\u2019t sound right.. I have never seen\/heard that.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":38256.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j17gpm5","c_root_id_B":"j17dp5c","created_at_utc_A":1671687604,"created_at_utc_B":1671685758,"score_A":33,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Bravecto is my personal favorite! It is prescription only","human_ref_B":"Revolution for cats works way better than Advantage.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1846.0,"score_ratio":2.0625}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j17gpm5","c_root_id_B":"j17bbyl","created_at_utc_A":1671687604,"created_at_utc_B":1671684398,"score_A":33,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Bravecto is my personal favorite! It is prescription only","human_ref_B":"Vacuuming isn\u2019t enough to treat the environment. I think they\u2019re getting reinfested from carpet somewhere.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3206.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j1792f1","c_root_id_B":"j17gpm5","created_at_utc_A":1671683145,"created_at_utc_B":1671687604,"score_A":9,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"you might have to flea bomb or heat treat the house, we had to do that with bedbugs like 10 years ago and we haven\u2019t had problems since.","human_ref_B":"Bravecto is my personal favorite! It is prescription only","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4459.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j17bbyl","c_root_id_B":"j17dp5c","created_at_utc_A":1671684398,"created_at_utc_B":1671685758,"score_A":12,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Vacuuming isn\u2019t enough to treat the environment. I think they\u2019re getting reinfested from carpet somewhere.","human_ref_B":"Revolution for cats works way better than Advantage.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1360.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j17dp5c","c_root_id_B":"j1792f1","created_at_utc_A":1671685758,"created_at_utc_B":1671683145,"score_A":16,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Revolution for cats works way better than Advantage.","human_ref_B":"you might have to flea bomb or heat treat the house, we had to do that with bedbugs like 10 years ago and we haven\u2019t had problems since.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2613.0,"score_ratio":1.7777777778}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j1792f1","c_root_id_B":"j17bbyl","created_at_utc_A":1671683145,"created_at_utc_B":1671684398,"score_A":9,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"you might have to flea bomb or heat treat the house, we had to do that with bedbugs like 10 years ago and we haven\u2019t had problems since.","human_ref_B":"Vacuuming isn\u2019t enough to treat the environment. I think they\u2019re getting reinfested from carpet somewhere.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1253.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j18jwvt","c_root_id_B":"j1792f1","created_at_utc_A":1671716293,"created_at_utc_B":1671683145,"score_A":10,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Flea bombs are not necessary but a prescription strength preventative is. The flea life cycle on average is 3 months, so you will need a prescription strength preventative monthly for at least that amount of time. Vacuuming daily (focusing on areas that are carpeted\/where the cat spends the most time) and make sure you are emptying the canister after each cleaning outside, so you are not dropping more eggs back into the environment. It's easier if you can quarantine the cat to a single room of the house, and vacuum\/clean\/launder all possible items until things are under control (1 month to kill current fleas, but continue for 2-3 months to kill other life stages).  Everything we have to kill fleas will only kill the adults\/larva, not the eggs. The eggs are very hardy and can only be killed with heat (dryer cycle\/steam cleaning). So you have to wait\/continue to clean until all the eggs hatch.   Don't use anything over the counter that is Hartz brand for a cat.","human_ref_B":"you might have to flea bomb or heat treat the house, we had to do that with bedbugs like 10 years ago and we haven\u2019t had problems since.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33148.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j186r7i","c_root_id_B":"j18jwvt","created_at_utc_A":1671707928,"created_at_utc_B":1671716293,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"You need to flea bomb the ENTIRE place. If you don\u2019t feel comfortable doing that, please call an exterminator. The cats have been treated, but the fleas living all around you (bedding, mattress floorboards) and in their lifecycle have not!!","human_ref_B":"Flea bombs are not necessary but a prescription strength preventative is. The flea life cycle on average is 3 months, so you will need a prescription strength preventative monthly for at least that amount of time. Vacuuming daily (focusing on areas that are carpeted\/where the cat spends the most time) and make sure you are emptying the canister after each cleaning outside, so you are not dropping more eggs back into the environment. It's easier if you can quarantine the cat to a single room of the house, and vacuum\/clean\/launder all possible items until things are under control (1 month to kill current fleas, but continue for 2-3 months to kill other life stages).  Everything we have to kill fleas will only kill the adults\/larva, not the eggs. The eggs are very hardy and can only be killed with heat (dryer cycle\/steam cleaning). So you have to wait\/continue to clean until all the eggs hatch.   Don't use anything over the counter that is Hartz brand for a cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8365.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j18sb7d","c_root_id_B":"j1792f1","created_at_utc_A":1671720306,"created_at_utc_B":1671683145,"score_A":10,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Advantage (and all the OTC ones) are no good and fleas in many areas are actually resistant to them. You need a prescription strength flea preventive. Credelio is a good one, also Bravecto. Once they're on a decent flea preventive, vacuum a few times a week (every surface) to get up eggs and larvae. If the infestation is really bad, you may need a professional exterminator.","human_ref_B":"you might have to flea bomb or heat treat the house, we had to do that with bedbugs like 10 years ago and we haven\u2019t had problems since.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37161.0,"score_ratio":1.1111111111}
{"post_id":"zsauvw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to get rid of these damn fleas on our cats? Our indoor cats got fleas presumably when we cat sat for a friend. It's not something we have ever dealt with before and didn't realize it was fleas until about 4 months afterwards and they were infested. We've given them 3 months of advantage II flea treatment; washed with hot water and hot dryer the blankets they sleep on all the time; vacuum regularly; Removed and washed the carpet they would sit on soaking wet with dawn (it's rolled up away right now). The advantage helps for a few weeks but then they're back itching and scabs again after 2 or 3 weeks from the treatment. What else can I be doing to get rid of these damn fleas once and for all? Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"j18sb7d","c_root_id_B":"j186r7i","created_at_utc_A":1671720306,"created_at_utc_B":1671707928,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Advantage (and all the OTC ones) are no good and fleas in many areas are actually resistant to them. You need a prescription strength flea preventive. Credelio is a good one, also Bravecto. Once they're on a decent flea preventive, vacuum a few times a week (every surface) to get up eggs and larvae. If the infestation is really bad, you may need a professional exterminator.","human_ref_B":"You need to flea bomb the ENTIRE place. If you don\u2019t feel comfortable doing that, please call an exterminator. The cats have been treated, but the fleas living all around you (bedding, mattress floorboards) and in their lifecycle have not!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12378.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"2iramd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"A dog in Spain was euthanized because its owner had Ebola. Was that really necessary? Can dogs carry Ebola, or catch it?","c_root_id_A":"cl4t424","c_root_id_B":"cl4p58m","created_at_utc_A":1412870969,"created_at_utc_B":1412862733,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"There is apparently a large increase (up to 31%) in seroprevalence in dogs in outbreaks, so it's very possible ( http:\/\/wwwnc.cdc.gov\/eid\/article\/11\/3\/04-0981_article ) . Granted, these are often wild dogs in Africa that are scavenging and potentially eating infected tissue. However, given that the disease has a 50% mortality rate in people it's understandable that authorities would want to do EVERYTHING possible to prevent spread.   You can make an argument that the dog could have been tested and quarantined like the owners, but dogs don't show symptoms and the chance that it might be a vector is not worth the risk.  TLDR: Yes, dogs can carry it. As much as it sucks for the dog and the family, better safe than sorry.","human_ref_B":"It currently isn't know of Ebola can be transmitted by dogs, so it's a sad necessity.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8236.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wkl20o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Kitten Tested Positive for FeLV. What does this mean? Our 8-10 week old kitten (were not 100% positive how old) had her first vet visit on Sunday. We have no background history so we did an examination, dewormer, first round of vaccine, and the vet suggested the Elisa test to test for FIV\/FELV.   Kitten is 2.6 pounds, tabby. She is very happy and energetic, loves to play and cuddle. She is eating wet food and using the litter box no problem.  Today the vet called and told us she tested positive for FeLV. We have another cat (14 month old calico who is fully vaccinated) and the vet told us they need to be fully separated and we need to rehome the kitten. That her life expectancy is ~2 years. Obviously we panicked   We reached out to rescues and we spoke to one lady who has worked 20* yearsThe lady basically told us the opposite of what the vet said. She said kittens shouldn't even be tested until 6 months and that this could be antibodies passed on from mom, and that she doesn't believe our kitten really has it, and that she doesn't pose a threat to our other cat.  So now we have no idea what to do. We want to obviously do our own research and make an informed decision but we keep reading contradicting information. On one hand we are hearing panic because your kitten will infect your other cat and need to be euthanized, and on the other hand we're hearing no she's perfectly fine... Thoughts?","c_root_id_A":"ijo597q","c_root_id_B":"ijo29zi","created_at_utc_A":1660100487,"created_at_utc_B":1660099082,"score_A":16,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"A mix of both info is true. Young kittens can have a false positive and should be retested to confirm a positive later on, usually after 6months of age or by doing a different type of test. The test is performed in young kittens because it is a great screening test, meaning that a negative test can be trusted, but a positive test you want to confirm with a second test. So if your kitten is truly positive, she does pose a threat to your older cat and other cats.   I would keep the cats totally separated until the kitten can be re-tested, especially if the older cat is not vaccinated. FeLV is spread through social contact mostly, it is shed in saliva, urine, feces, and other fluids.   Here is a link to more information: FeLV Veterinary Partner","human_ref_B":"So the test is an antigen test, not antibody so it isn't from your kittens mom passing on antibodies.  The test indicates exposure to the virus but in many places in Canada the prevalence of this disease is very low so false positives are quite common- or the kitten is transiently infected and doesn't develop the disease.  This could mean a few different things -your kitten could be fine and not have the disease. It may have been exposed but not infected. It might be infected and clear the disease or it may have the disease.  The next step for your kitten should be to send off the Immunofluorescent assay to the lab or at least repeat the snap test(ELISA) at your vet clinic in 30-60 days. A positive snap in a healthy kitten is not enough to diagnose the disease. If it is positive a kitten has a much worse prognosis than a healthy adult cat.  Until you re-test your kitten you should keep your two cats entirely separate. No shared space, no shared water bowls or litter boxes, to protect your adult cat just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1405.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ybllho","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"When is it time to put down our dog? We have a ten year old dog, a Rhodesian ridgeback\/boxer type of mix. She just got diagnosed with cancer in the throat, kidney, and liver, and more recently she's been urinating in the house with blood and sometimes clots. My SO doesn't want to put her down yet because she's still active and wanting attention as normal, but she's clearly declining.","c_root_id_A":"itit5xr","c_root_id_B":"itjc1gp","created_at_utc_A":1666567061,"created_at_utc_B":1666575832,"score_A":17,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"The quality of life scale is a great resource. Ultimately it's a challenging decision and one the whole family has to be on board for.   I will say that I have seen a lot of euthanasias. In my experience families who felt they waited too long tend to express more regrets than those who euthanized their pets earlier in their decline.","human_ref_B":"As a pet sitter with long term clients we see this scenerio often.  It's always more peaceful in a controlled situation (at home euthanasia or at scheduled vet appt).  It will be incredibly traumatic for the family if you wait too long and have an emergency at 2am. The last thing anyone wants is a ride to vet in the middle of the night with your dog dying in the back seat.  Don't wait until it gets to that point. I'm sorry about your pupper!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8771.0,"score_ratio":1.4117647059}
{"post_id":"ybllho","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"When is it time to put down our dog? We have a ten year old dog, a Rhodesian ridgeback\/boxer type of mix. She just got diagnosed with cancer in the throat, kidney, and liver, and more recently she's been urinating in the house with blood and sometimes clots. My SO doesn't want to put her down yet because she's still active and wanting attention as normal, but she's clearly declining.","c_root_id_A":"itjc1gp","c_root_id_B":"itiquma","created_at_utc_A":1666575832,"created_at_utc_B":1666566065,"score_A":24,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"As a pet sitter with long term clients we see this scenerio often.  It's always more peaceful in a controlled situation (at home euthanasia or at scheduled vet appt).  It will be incredibly traumatic for the family if you wait too long and have an emergency at 2am. The last thing anyone wants is a ride to vet in the middle of the night with your dog dying in the back seat.  Don't wait until it gets to that point. I'm sorry about your pupper!","human_ref_B":"When the dog suffers too much to go on. Your vet will help with the decision.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9767.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ybllho","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"When is it time to put down our dog? We have a ten year old dog, a Rhodesian ridgeback\/boxer type of mix. She just got diagnosed with cancer in the throat, kidney, and liver, and more recently she's been urinating in the house with blood and sometimes clots. My SO doesn't want to put her down yet because she's still active and wanting attention as normal, but she's clearly declining.","c_root_id_A":"itj2zmf","c_root_id_B":"itjc1gp","created_at_utc_A":1666571599,"created_at_utc_B":1666575832,"score_A":7,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"when you notice a negative difference in their normal behaviour (e.g, seeming sad all the time) that is often a good indicator","human_ref_B":"As a pet sitter with long term clients we see this scenerio often.  It's always more peaceful in a controlled situation (at home euthanasia or at scheduled vet appt).  It will be incredibly traumatic for the family if you wait too long and have an emergency at 2am. The last thing anyone wants is a ride to vet in the middle of the night with your dog dying in the back seat.  Don't wait until it gets to that point. I'm sorry about your pupper!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4233.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"ybllho","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"When is it time to put down our dog? We have a ten year old dog, a Rhodesian ridgeback\/boxer type of mix. She just got diagnosed with cancer in the throat, kidney, and liver, and more recently she's been urinating in the house with blood and sometimes clots. My SO doesn't want to put her down yet because she's still active and wanting attention as normal, but she's clearly declining.","c_root_id_A":"itit5xr","c_root_id_B":"itiquma","created_at_utc_A":1666567061,"created_at_utc_B":1666566065,"score_A":17,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"The quality of life scale is a great resource. Ultimately it's a challenging decision and one the whole family has to be on board for.   I will say that I have seen a lot of euthanasias. In my experience families who felt they waited too long tend to express more regrets than those who euthanized their pets earlier in their decline.","human_ref_B":"When the dog suffers too much to go on. Your vet will help with the decision.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":996.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"ybllho","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"When is it time to put down our dog? We have a ten year old dog, a Rhodesian ridgeback\/boxer type of mix. She just got diagnosed with cancer in the throat, kidney, and liver, and more recently she's been urinating in the house with blood and sometimes clots. My SO doesn't want to put her down yet because she's still active and wanting attention as normal, but she's clearly declining.","c_root_id_A":"itjpwx2","c_root_id_B":"itjoxg3","created_at_utc_A":1666582556,"created_at_utc_B":1666582042,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Ohio State vet school has a great survey on their website that helps in making those tough decisions  Alternatively do the calendar trick where you keep track of good days vs bad days. It helps to visualize your pet's quality of life.  I'm so sorry you're having to face this choice. I hope you find comfort in the memories you've shared with your sweet dog","human_ref_B":"I'm in the same boat as you, and I've been wondering if I'm doing the right thing, if I'm being intuitive enough, paying enough attention to the \"signs.\" Thank you for asking this question. Good luck with your journey from here","labels":1,"seconds_difference":514.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"op5emh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. My 6 yo Male Cat has lost a frightening amount of weight and has developed wobbly back legs, but is eating normally. I took him to the vet and no answers yet. Bloodwork results inside this post. Insight greatly appreciated \ud83d\ude4f Hello, I know you can't diagnose but would appreciate some insight so I can be informed for my upcoming vet visit, know what questions to ask, etc.  Over the last 3 months, my 6.5 year old male cat has lost a LOT of weight and practically all of his muscle mass. At first I thought it was due to separation anxiety, as he does tend toward extreme clinginess, and he lost a lot of weight while I was away for two weeks (he was eating normally according to my husband). He seemed to be gaining back weight slowly so I held of taking him to the vet right away.   Over the last couple of weeks he has gotten noticeably worse, culminating in his back legs becoming so weak and wobbly he is experiencing difficulty walking and even standing. This has become very noticeable in the last week. I took him to the vet this past Monday and I got him a full panel of bloodwork. The only levels that were off are:  *AMY at 1294 (normal range 300-1100 U\/L) *PLT at 86 (300-800 10^9\/I) K+ at 3.4 (3.7-8.5 mg\/dl) TP at 9.4 (5.4-8.2 g\/dL) GLOB at 6.1 (1.5-5.7 g\/dL) MCV at 37 (39-55 fl) MCH at 12.1 (12.5-17.5 pg) MPV 10.9 (12.0-17.0 fl)  Just 4 night ago, on Sunday, I noticed that he started to develop snot coming out of one of his nostrils. I have never seen this before in him or any of my other cats over the years. Just tonight, I was watching him in the freshly changed litter box and he started EATING the cat litter. I stopped him immediately but now am thinking this may have been going on for some time.  He usually follows me everywhere, is constantly purring etc, but he has become much more withdrawn which is not normal for him at all.  The vet said that it was possibly something to do with his pancreas due to one of the bloodwork levels being off.  Any possible insights, questions to pose to the vet, etc, would be greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h632tq7","c_root_id_B":"h63hopl","created_at_utc_A":1626923475,"created_at_utc_B":1626932832,"score_A":2,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Can you take him to another vet? sorry but yours doesn\u2019t seem very knowledgeable and this is something that sounds urgent to treat","human_ref_B":"Consider a FeLV\/FIV test along with thoracic and abdominal radiographs for more insight.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9357.0,"score_ratio":14.0}
{"post_id":"op5emh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. My 6 yo Male Cat has lost a frightening amount of weight and has developed wobbly back legs, but is eating normally. I took him to the vet and no answers yet. Bloodwork results inside this post. Insight greatly appreciated \ud83d\ude4f Hello, I know you can't diagnose but would appreciate some insight so I can be informed for my upcoming vet visit, know what questions to ask, etc.  Over the last 3 months, my 6.5 year old male cat has lost a LOT of weight and practically all of his muscle mass. At first I thought it was due to separation anxiety, as he does tend toward extreme clinginess, and he lost a lot of weight while I was away for two weeks (he was eating normally according to my husband). He seemed to be gaining back weight slowly so I held of taking him to the vet right away.   Over the last couple of weeks he has gotten noticeably worse, culminating in his back legs becoming so weak and wobbly he is experiencing difficulty walking and even standing. This has become very noticeable in the last week. I took him to the vet this past Monday and I got him a full panel of bloodwork. The only levels that were off are:  *AMY at 1294 (normal range 300-1100 U\/L) *PLT at 86 (300-800 10^9\/I) K+ at 3.4 (3.7-8.5 mg\/dl) TP at 9.4 (5.4-8.2 g\/dL) GLOB at 6.1 (1.5-5.7 g\/dL) MCV at 37 (39-55 fl) MCH at 12.1 (12.5-17.5 pg) MPV 10.9 (12.0-17.0 fl)  Just 4 night ago, on Sunday, I noticed that he started to develop snot coming out of one of his nostrils. I have never seen this before in him or any of my other cats over the years. Just tonight, I was watching him in the freshly changed litter box and he started EATING the cat litter. I stopped him immediately but now am thinking this may have been going on for some time.  He usually follows me everywhere, is constantly purring etc, but he has become much more withdrawn which is not normal for him at all.  The vet said that it was possibly something to do with his pancreas due to one of the bloodwork levels being off.  Any possible insights, questions to pose to the vet, etc, would be greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h641z9g","c_root_id_B":"h63nqbw","created_at_utc_A":1626950558,"created_at_utc_B":1626937752,"score_A":15,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"An ultrasound might help narrow down what is wrong.  Find a vet that knows about FIP.  It\u2019s not super well known or talked about.","human_ref_B":"Were thyroid, kidney, and liver values normal?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12806.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"op5emh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. My 6 yo Male Cat has lost a frightening amount of weight and has developed wobbly back legs, but is eating normally. I took him to the vet and no answers yet. Bloodwork results inside this post. Insight greatly appreciated \ud83d\ude4f Hello, I know you can't diagnose but would appreciate some insight so I can be informed for my upcoming vet visit, know what questions to ask, etc.  Over the last 3 months, my 6.5 year old male cat has lost a LOT of weight and practically all of his muscle mass. At first I thought it was due to separation anxiety, as he does tend toward extreme clinginess, and he lost a lot of weight while I was away for two weeks (he was eating normally according to my husband). He seemed to be gaining back weight slowly so I held of taking him to the vet right away.   Over the last couple of weeks he has gotten noticeably worse, culminating in his back legs becoming so weak and wobbly he is experiencing difficulty walking and even standing. This has become very noticeable in the last week. I took him to the vet this past Monday and I got him a full panel of bloodwork. The only levels that were off are:  *AMY at 1294 (normal range 300-1100 U\/L) *PLT at 86 (300-800 10^9\/I) K+ at 3.4 (3.7-8.5 mg\/dl) TP at 9.4 (5.4-8.2 g\/dL) GLOB at 6.1 (1.5-5.7 g\/dL) MCV at 37 (39-55 fl) MCH at 12.1 (12.5-17.5 pg) MPV 10.9 (12.0-17.0 fl)  Just 4 night ago, on Sunday, I noticed that he started to develop snot coming out of one of his nostrils. I have never seen this before in him or any of my other cats over the years. Just tonight, I was watching him in the freshly changed litter box and he started EATING the cat litter. I stopped him immediately but now am thinking this may have been going on for some time.  He usually follows me everywhere, is constantly purring etc, but he has become much more withdrawn which is not normal for him at all.  The vet said that it was possibly something to do with his pancreas due to one of the bloodwork levels being off.  Any possible insights, questions to pose to the vet, etc, would be greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h641z9g","c_root_id_B":"h632tq7","created_at_utc_A":1626950558,"created_at_utc_B":1626923475,"score_A":15,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"An ultrasound might help narrow down what is wrong.  Find a vet that knows about FIP.  It\u2019s not super well known or talked about.","human_ref_B":"Can you take him to another vet? sorry but yours doesn\u2019t seem very knowledgeable and this is something that sounds urgent to treat","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27083.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"op5emh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Please help. My 6 yo Male Cat has lost a frightening amount of weight and has developed wobbly back legs, but is eating normally. I took him to the vet and no answers yet. Bloodwork results inside this post. Insight greatly appreciated \ud83d\ude4f Hello, I know you can't diagnose but would appreciate some insight so I can be informed for my upcoming vet visit, know what questions to ask, etc.  Over the last 3 months, my 6.5 year old male cat has lost a LOT of weight and practically all of his muscle mass. At first I thought it was due to separation anxiety, as he does tend toward extreme clinginess, and he lost a lot of weight while I was away for two weeks (he was eating normally according to my husband). He seemed to be gaining back weight slowly so I held of taking him to the vet right away.   Over the last couple of weeks he has gotten noticeably worse, culminating in his back legs becoming so weak and wobbly he is experiencing difficulty walking and even standing. This has become very noticeable in the last week. I took him to the vet this past Monday and I got him a full panel of bloodwork. The only levels that were off are:  *AMY at 1294 (normal range 300-1100 U\/L) *PLT at 86 (300-800 10^9\/I) K+ at 3.4 (3.7-8.5 mg\/dl) TP at 9.4 (5.4-8.2 g\/dL) GLOB at 6.1 (1.5-5.7 g\/dL) MCV at 37 (39-55 fl) MCH at 12.1 (12.5-17.5 pg) MPV 10.9 (12.0-17.0 fl)  Just 4 night ago, on Sunday, I noticed that he started to develop snot coming out of one of his nostrils. I have never seen this before in him or any of my other cats over the years. Just tonight, I was watching him in the freshly changed litter box and he started EATING the cat litter. I stopped him immediately but now am thinking this may have been going on for some time.  He usually follows me everywhere, is constantly purring etc, but he has become much more withdrawn which is not normal for him at all.  The vet said that it was possibly something to do with his pancreas due to one of the bloodwork levels being off.  Any possible insights, questions to pose to the vet, etc, would be greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"h63nqbw","c_root_id_B":"h632tq7","created_at_utc_A":1626937752,"created_at_utc_B":1626923475,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Were thyroid, kidney, and liver values normal?","human_ref_B":"Can you take him to another vet? sorry but yours doesn\u2019t seem very knowledgeable and this is something that sounds urgent to treat","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14277.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"u06v7m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My sweet, 8 year old calico finally passed away today after a long battle with chronic kidney disease. She passed blood after she\u2019d already died when I picked her up to cuddle her one last time, though, why? Is this a normal occurrence in cats who die of chronic kidney disease? It came gushing out of her bottom when I lifted her from the bed, not quite sure if it was with pee or from the anus.","c_root_id_A":"i45mls3","c_root_id_B":"i44v43n","created_at_utc_A":1649593545,"created_at_utc_B":1649572605,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It's normal - after death the urinary sphincter will relax and release urine.  I'm sorry for your loss","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for your loss. She's in a better place now, and pain has passed. I wish you the best <3","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20940.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpb6jgv","c_root_id_B":"hpay6w8","created_at_utc_A":1640017790,"created_at_utc_B":1640014208,"score_A":34,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"20 years old and was always well behaved before?  I\u2019d be willing to bet it\u2019s a medical issue, not behavioral.  I don\u2019t know why cats will pee or poop outside or even directly beside their litter box when they\u2019re in pain, but it is what it is and that handsome boy doesn\u2019t deserve to be scolded or punished for it.  Please take him to the vet ASAP.","human_ref_B":"Has she seen a vet about this?   This is a 20 yo cat whose litter box got so dirty she starting having accidents. She could be avoiding the litter box because it made her sick, she could be avoiding it because of the negative correlation between being punished and being carried to the litter box, she could be suffering from neurological issues making her confused.   I would get her to a vet to rule out illness\/disease. If she\u2019s completely healthy, then I would suggest a new litter box setup in a new location, with 100% positive reinforcement associated with it","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3582.0,"score_ratio":1.36}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpaxglo","c_root_id_B":"hpb6jgv","created_at_utc_A":1640013887,"created_at_utc_B":1640017790,"score_A":19,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Alongside the others here, I'd add maybe getting her to the vet, just to rule out any problems.","human_ref_B":"20 years old and was always well behaved before?  I\u2019d be willing to bet it\u2019s a medical issue, not behavioral.  I don\u2019t know why cats will pee or poop outside or even directly beside their litter box when they\u2019re in pain, but it is what it is and that handsome boy doesn\u2019t deserve to be scolded or punished for it.  Please take him to the vet ASAP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3903.0,"score_ratio":1.7894736842}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpb12b3","c_root_id_B":"hpb6jgv","created_at_utc_A":1640015464,"created_at_utc_B":1640017790,"score_A":6,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"My 12 year old cat started doing that when she had bladder stones. So i would take her ti the vet first.","human_ref_B":"20 years old and was always well behaved before?  I\u2019d be willing to bet it\u2019s a medical issue, not behavioral.  I don\u2019t know why cats will pee or poop outside or even directly beside their litter box when they\u2019re in pain, but it is what it is and that handsome boy doesn\u2019t deserve to be scolded or punished for it.  Please take him to the vet ASAP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2326.0,"score_ratio":5.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpaxglo","c_root_id_B":"hpay6w8","created_at_utc_A":1640013887,"created_at_utc_B":1640014208,"score_A":19,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Alongside the others here, I'd add maybe getting her to the vet, just to rule out any problems.","human_ref_B":"Has she seen a vet about this?   This is a 20 yo cat whose litter box got so dirty she starting having accidents. She could be avoiding the litter box because it made her sick, she could be avoiding it because of the negative correlation between being punished and being carried to the litter box, she could be suffering from neurological issues making her confused.   I would get her to a vet to rule out illness\/disease. If she\u2019s completely healthy, then I would suggest a new litter box setup in a new location, with 100% positive reinforcement associated with it","labels":0,"seconds_difference":321.0,"score_ratio":1.3157894737}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpb12b3","c_root_id_B":"hpb6y7f","created_at_utc_A":1640015464,"created_at_utc_B":1640017963,"score_A":6,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"My 12 year old cat started doing that when she had bladder stones. So i would take her ti the vet first.","human_ref_B":"My senior kitty, Mittens, was doing the same thing. I took her to the vet and they did a blood panel + urinalysis which showed she has kidney disease. She is on a prescription diet now and I got her a second litter box just in case, and she hasn\u2019t had any accidents since. Inappropriate urination can be a sign of problems in cats, and older kitties are at a much higher risk of having hyperthyroidism and kidney disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2499.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rkn6xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"The litter box got too dirty, now she refuses to use it at all About 6 months ago, I spaced out cleaning the litter box and it got too dirty. Since then my cat refuses to use it, and I'm exasperated. I typically make sure it's clean every day.  I thought maybe because she's getting old, but then I noticed she goes to specific spots in the house, so if she can make it there, she can make it to her litter box.  She's 20 years old,  and she has always used the litter box. She tries to be sneaky when she's doing it, so she knows she's doing something bad. She poops in my son's room, and pees on the bathroom rug. I took away the rug and put down pee pads, which she used. I then moved the pee pad to outside her litter box, and she used it there. I finally decided it was time to put the bathroom rug back, but she immediately started peeing on it again instead of the pee pad.  I've been taking her to the poop, telling her she's bad,  and then carry her to the litter box. That's not working. Do I punish her with a squirt bottle or something to break the behavior? I've tried putting her litter box in different places I've tried different litters. This has been going on for about 6 months, so I don't think it's a uti.  She's a 20 year old tabby, spayed, has always been a house cat, well behaved","c_root_id_A":"hpb12b3","c_root_id_B":"hpbi9r8","created_at_utc_A":1640015464,"created_at_utc_B":1640022595,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"My 12 year old cat started doing that when she had bladder stones. So i would take her ti the vet first.","human_ref_B":"Your cat is very old. Cats are not able to tell us when they are hurting, so using the bathroom outside of the litter box is their way of telling us something is wrong. Take her to the vet!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7131.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rtms1v","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My Cat won't use her litter box anymore.... Hello! In the last few months ths my cat refuses to poop in her litter box. She was using it and now she only will go on the floor. These are the things we've done for her to help this already. I have no other ideas. Please help!    1. We did take her to the vet multiple times. We got blood work done and she was put on a steroid, a prebiotic we buy from our petstore and another liquid medicine for irritated stomach. She was pooping blood and vomiting at first so we knew something was wrong. She now has stead poops, little to no blood and she shows no signs of weight change or activity change anymore.  2. We did get another cat. And for a while we introduced them through the door and eventually let them be together. We now have gone back to feeding them through the door and not letting them be together as it seemed to be causing her stress.   3. We clean the litter box regularly and have not changed the litter she used from the original use. And we have not changed her litter box either.   Our vet said that she has no signs of any sickness outside of IBD and the medications are suppose to help that. She said she seems like a healthy cat and doesn't know why she won't use the litter box.    PLEASE HELP. SHE POOPS ALL OVER.","c_root_id_A":"hqu6atu","c_root_id_B":"hqtyg8w","created_at_utc_A":1641064627,"created_at_utc_B":1641061426,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Frequently when something happens that causes a cat to go outside the literbox, even when that thing resolves, the behaviour remains.  *If your vet has ruled out illness*, you may need to make adjustments for the behaviour since something could have happened that turned her off from her box as it is. Sounds like you've tried some things, but other things to consider would be things like box location (if it's always been in the same spot, maybe she doesn'tlike it there anymore), adding more boxes and different types of boxes (if she has a closed box, add an open box somewhere else), and even trying new litter if that doesn't work.","human_ref_B":"Have the diarrhea and vomiting resolved? If so, a few things to consider:  How many litter boxes do you have? What sort of texture of litter? Some cats struggle with the texture and choose not to enter the litter box if they don't like the way it feels. For two cats you should have three litter boxes in your home. Sometimes cats will avoid a box if they had a negative experience in it, such as a painful or uncomfortable bowel movement or pain when urinating. It may be worth it to research the behavior instead of medical issues, as this sounds very behavioral.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3201.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"uyx0yy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"How do I know if my dog is approaching the \"end of the road?\" I don't mean \"should I euthanize my dog,\" because she is still healthy.  But she is also roughly 13 to 14 years old and doesn't really move unless it's time to go out or eat.    I know that she is really old for a dog and I am preparing myself mentally to say goodbye.  And of course I know that there's no way of telling g how long she has left.  But are there any warning signs like a few mo ths or a year out that I should watch for?","c_root_id_A":"ia6rphz","c_root_id_B":"ia732tn","created_at_utc_A":1653656125,"created_at_utc_B":1653661466,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"http:\/\/vetsocialwork.utk.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Quality-of-Life.pdf","human_ref_B":"OP, as u\/SeasDiver linked, the HHHHHMM scale is what vets generally recommend to determine quality of life. But with a dog this old you should be going to a vet every six months for a senior checkup - that checkup is going to be where they catch problems before and as they arise. If you haven\u2019t seen a vet in more than six months, schedule an appointment and ask these questions to YOUR vet, who knows your dog (and his size, weight, general level of health, history, breed, etc.) for their recommendations. You\u2019ll get much more quality information from that than you will asking here\u2026","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5341.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"xhvlua","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"not sure what to do about my pit My pit is 8yrs old on Sept 25th. Yesterday she was fine in morning.  She rolled around in the grass and came in full of welts. Today she's vomiting and isn't eating.  I've given her 3 doses of puppy benadryl since yesterday (within 24 hours)","c_root_id_A":"iozvexd","c_root_id_B":"iozxsh4","created_at_utc_A":1663544080,"created_at_utc_B":1663545132,"score_A":2,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"You'll need the help of a vet if she's vomiting. Please have her seen. If she continues vomiting, you need to seek out emergency care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1052.0,"score_ratio":43.5}
{"post_id":"xhvlua","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"not sure what to do about my pit My pit is 8yrs old on Sept 25th. Yesterday she was fine in morning.  She rolled around in the grass and came in full of welts. Today she's vomiting and isn't eating.  I've given her 3 doses of puppy benadryl since yesterday (within 24 hours)","c_root_id_A":"iozvexd","c_root_id_B":"ip0nwq3","created_at_utc_A":1663544080,"created_at_utc_B":1663556770,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Call the emergency vet too","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12690.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"xhvlua","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"not sure what to do about my pit My pit is 8yrs old on Sept 25th. Yesterday she was fine in morning.  She rolled around in the grass and came in full of welts. Today she's vomiting and isn't eating.  I've given her 3 doses of puppy benadryl since yesterday (within 24 hours)","c_root_id_A":"iozvexd","c_root_id_B":"ip4mktc","created_at_utc_A":1663544080,"created_at_utc_B":1663629730,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"My pit woke up in the middle of the night covered in hives. Wasn\u2019t vomiting but couldn\u2019t relax or stop itching so we\u2019re at the ER. Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":85650.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih471j2","c_root_id_B":"ih3yy16","created_at_utc_A":1658444240,"created_at_utc_B":1658440895,"score_A":29,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It may we worth talking to your vet about getting a more enticing medication, or a liquid which is easier to give.   You could even look into having it compounded with a yummy flavor.","human_ref_B":"Try to hide it in Braunschweiger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3345.0,"score_ratio":5.8}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4hznw","c_root_id_B":"ih47lqk","created_at_utc_A":1658449074,"created_at_utc_B":1658444471,"score_A":19,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Try putting the meds directly into her throat. My Poodle has leukemia and this is the only way.","human_ref_B":"Stuff it inside a marshmallow. Sounds strange, but marshmallow can mask the bitter taste of medicine.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4603.0,"score_ratio":1.3571428571}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4du44","c_root_id_B":"ih4hznw","created_at_utc_A":1658447192,"created_at_utc_B":1658449074,"score_A":6,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Pill in pill pocket topped with cheez whiz.","human_ref_B":"Try putting the meds directly into her throat. My Poodle has leukemia and this is the only way.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1882.0,"score_ratio":3.1666666667}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4hznw","c_root_id_B":"ih3yy16","created_at_utc_A":1658449074,"created_at_utc_B":1658440895,"score_A":19,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Try putting the meds directly into her throat. My Poodle has leukemia and this is the only way.","human_ref_B":"Try to hide it in Braunschweiger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8179.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih47lqk","c_root_id_B":"ih3yy16","created_at_utc_A":1658444471,"created_at_utc_B":1658440895,"score_A":14,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Stuff it inside a marshmallow. Sounds strange, but marshmallow can mask the bitter taste of medicine.","human_ref_B":"Try to hide it in Braunschweiger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3576.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4t5j1","c_root_id_B":"ih4du44","created_at_utc_A":1658454220,"created_at_utc_B":1658447192,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I always get a spoonful of peanut butter and stick the pill down in the middle. Its almost impossible for them to Seperate it from the peanut butter and spit it out","human_ref_B":"Pill in pill pocket topped with cheez whiz.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7028.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4t5j1","c_root_id_B":"ih3yy16","created_at_utc_A":1658454220,"created_at_utc_B":1658440895,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I always get a spoonful of peanut butter and stick the pill down in the middle. Its almost impossible for them to Seperate it from the peanut butter and spit it out","human_ref_B":"Try to hide it in Braunschweiger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13325.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih4du44","c_root_id_B":"ih3yy16","created_at_utc_A":1658447192,"created_at_utc_B":1658440895,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Pill in pill pocket topped with cheez whiz.","human_ref_B":"Try to hide it in Braunschweiger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6297.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih53zjb","c_root_id_B":"ih4ztit","created_at_utc_A":1658459353,"created_at_utc_B":1658457317,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Talk to your vet about transdermal options with medicines and appetite stimulants.","human_ref_B":"Cream cheese works amazing well for hiding meds.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2036.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih5aov5","c_root_id_B":"ih661og","created_at_utc_A":1658462844,"created_at_utc_B":1658484960,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"One thing that worked for me ( a few times) I hid the pill in butter and then froze it.","human_ref_B":"Can your dog catch any treats and gobble them down? What has worked for me has been bread. Take a small piece of it, mold it around the pill, and throw it at them as usual. I hope this helps!!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22116.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih661og","c_root_id_B":"ih5ljtw","created_at_utc_A":1658484960,"created_at_utc_B":1658469391,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Can your dog catch any treats and gobble them down? What has worked for me has been bread. Take a small piece of it, mold it around the pill, and throw it at them as usual. I hope this helps!!","human_ref_B":"My dog is a TERRIBLE pill taker, what I have done is take small silicone moulds, line the bottom with cheese wiz, then pills, then top with wet dog food and freeze. I pop it out and either feed directly or put on top of food. If I need to note if there is something different about a \u201cpill popsicle\u201d I will stick something in the wet food like a piece of cheese, hotdog, kibble so I can differentiate between the pieces. I think with it being frozen they don\u2019t notice the taste of the medication. It\u2019s working extremely well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15569.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"w4qlfj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog who has bone cancer refuses to eat and take her medication We've recently found that our sweet pup, 11 years old, has osteosarcoma (early stage). She gets codeine 3 times a day for pain relief but it's getting increasingly difficult to give it to her.  We've tried:  1. Grinding it then mixing it in peanut butter 2. Hiding it in a pill capsule (ate around the pill) 3. Skewering it into the middle of a hot dog (worked for a while)  Today, she refuses to eat her breakfast and medication. Please let us know what else we can try.","c_root_id_A":"ih661og","c_root_id_B":"ih64p87","created_at_utc_A":1658484960,"created_at_utc_B":1658483938,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Can your dog catch any treats and gobble them down? What has worked for me has been bread. Take a small piece of it, mold it around the pill, and throw it at them as usual. I hope this helps!!","human_ref_B":"If nothing else works and you are really desperate you can try getting a syringe (without a needle of course), grind it with something tasty and squirt it directly in her mouth - you may need to do it in smaller portions, so that she can't spit it out. We've been doing it with our older pup when she is not feeling well refuses to eat, not a very pleasant option for her, nor us, but it keeps her stronger on those difficult days.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1022.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"rmtq0d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Cat hurt his hind leg and now is barely eating and laying near the warm boiler all the time. So a few days ago my cat (female, about 18, tabby, spayed, healthy weight and usually active) tried to jump up onto the kitchen sink counter. She would recently like to lay in the sink and watch the water drops and lick them. So she missed or got hind leg caught and started limping.   After that happened, she started being depressed looking. Barely eating. Barely drinking. She could stand on her leg but ever so slightly. Now, she's been laying down by my home heat furnace thing, which is near her litter box.  Sometimes she would go into the box, pee, and lay down in the box. 50\/50 if she would leave or not.   I don't see any breathing problems. I can move her and she would walk back to that spot. Leg doesn't look broken as she can put pressure on it and walk slowly. Although it sometimes slides away from her.   I'm sorry if it's this is all over the place. Hard for me to see her like this.  Ever since her leg pain, she just lays down and barely wants to eat or drink. She's still attentive when I call her name. Don't know what to do. Thank you   Here is pic https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/3wUbHdc","c_root_id_A":"hppblnw","c_root_id_B":"hppkpd2","created_at_utc_A":1640279582,"created_at_utc_B":1640283349,"score_A":2,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I know cats hide when hurt and she's probably eating and drinking less since she's using alot less energy becouse she can't run","human_ref_B":"When cats are hurt or injured, they will retreat into a quiet spot where no one can bother them and they will stop eating or drinking. It's a sign she's in pain or discomfort, so yeah, like other said already - see the vet and make sure the leg isn't broken.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3767.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"rmtq0d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Cat hurt his hind leg and now is barely eating and laying near the warm boiler all the time. So a few days ago my cat (female, about 18, tabby, spayed, healthy weight and usually active) tried to jump up onto the kitchen sink counter. She would recently like to lay in the sink and watch the water drops and lick them. So she missed or got hind leg caught and started limping.   After that happened, she started being depressed looking. Barely eating. Barely drinking. She could stand on her leg but ever so slightly. Now, she's been laying down by my home heat furnace thing, which is near her litter box.  Sometimes she would go into the box, pee, and lay down in the box. 50\/50 if she would leave or not.   I don't see any breathing problems. I can move her and she would walk back to that spot. Leg doesn't look broken as she can put pressure on it and walk slowly. Although it sometimes slides away from her.   I'm sorry if it's this is all over the place. Hard for me to see her like this.  Ever since her leg pain, she just lays down and barely wants to eat or drink. She's still attentive when I call her name. Don't know what to do. Thank you   Here is pic https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/3wUbHdc","c_root_id_A":"hprvoiu","c_root_id_B":"hppblnw","created_at_utc_A":1640321824,"created_at_utc_B":1640279582,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Use a lot of care when picking her up to transport her. Make sure she's able to lay flat in the carrier. Moving her too much could cause more issues.","human_ref_B":"I know cats hide when hurt and she's probably eating and drinking less since she's using alot less energy becouse she can't run","labels":1,"seconds_difference":42242.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isbjq4x","c_root_id_B":"isbg5or","created_at_utc_A":1665772145,"created_at_utc_B":1665770717,"score_A":51,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"He's big so that's in his favor. If it wasn't too long ago they can make him throw up.","human_ref_B":"Another factor will be what type of chocolate chips? Milk chocolate, semi-sweet, dark chocolate?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1428.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isc0iwc","c_root_id_B":"isbg5or","created_at_utc_A":1665778849,"created_at_utc_B":1665770717,"score_A":33,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but you might want to call the pet poison line - the cocoa powder can be checked for toxicity against body weight here...  https:\/\/www.petmd.com\/dog\/chocolate-toxicity  https:\/\/www.petpoisonhelpline.com\/pet-tips\/my-dog-ate-cocoa-powder-will-they-be-okay\/#:\\~:text=Dogs%20should%20not%20eat%20cocoa,longer%20duration%20than%20in%20humans.","human_ref_B":"Another factor will be what type of chocolate chips? Milk chocolate, semi-sweet, dark chocolate?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8132.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isbul09","c_root_id_B":"isc0iwc","created_at_utc_A":1665776481,"created_at_utc_B":1665778849,"score_A":6,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"The alcohol isn\u2019t a huge issue. The chocolate is, depending on the amount eaten. You can use an online chocolate toxicity calculator to evaluate it based on the %cocoa and the pups weight.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but you might want to call the pet poison line - the cocoa powder can be checked for toxicity against body weight here...  https:\/\/www.petmd.com\/dog\/chocolate-toxicity  https:\/\/www.petpoisonhelpline.com\/pet-tips\/my-dog-ate-cocoa-powder-will-they-be-okay\/#:\\~:text=Dogs%20should%20not%20eat%20cocoa,longer%20duration%20than%20in%20humans.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2368.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isc6ue2","c_root_id_B":"isee1ug","created_at_utc_A":1665781406,"created_at_utc_B":1665827854,"score_A":8,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You need to go to the vet for treatment. The longer you wait, the more difficult decontamination will be.","human_ref_B":"The concern here isn\u2019t the rum or the corn syrup. Both chocolate and pecans are toxic to dogs. Please call your vet and have them advise you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":46448.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isee1ug","c_root_id_B":"isbul09","created_at_utc_A":1665827854,"created_at_utc_B":1665776481,"score_A":16,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"The concern here isn\u2019t the rum or the corn syrup. Both chocolate and pecans are toxic to dogs. Please call your vet and have them advise you.","human_ref_B":"The alcohol isn\u2019t a huge issue. The chocolate is, depending on the amount eaten. You can use an online chocolate toxicity calculator to evaluate it based on the %cocoa and the pups weight.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":51373.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"y40uk9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog ate half a batch of cookies. I\u2019m really scared because these cookies are especially bad. He ate exactly a half batch of the cookies and I\u2019ll list the ingredients for the full batch. Please let me know how serious this could be. I have a big husky-malamute who is very healthy but does get into things like this (never something this bad).  Full batch:  1 3\/4 cup all purpose flour 3\/4 cup powdered sugar 3\/4 cup butter 1\/4 cup cocoa 1 cup chocolate chips  3\/4 cup brown sugar, 3\/4 cup light corn syrup  3 eggs 1\/4 cup melted butter 1\/4 cup of CUBAN RUM \ud83d\ude22 1 cup flaked coconut  3 cups pecans  The most dangerous ingredients in my eyes are the rum, chocolate and corn syrup. Please let me know what you think I should do, thanks.","c_root_id_A":"isc6ue2","c_root_id_B":"isbul09","created_at_utc_A":1665781406,"created_at_utc_B":1665776481,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"You need to go to the vet for treatment. The longer you wait, the more difficult decontamination will be.","human_ref_B":"The alcohol isn\u2019t a huge issue. The chocolate is, depending on the amount eaten. You can use an online chocolate toxicity calculator to evaluate it based on the %cocoa and the pups weight.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4925.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ve4nqn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Did my dog die from covid? Jackie, my 13 year old boxer mix, fell ill Monday night and passed away Friday morning.  I'm just trying to get some answers as to what the cause might be because although she was getting old, she was still healthy and active until just a few days before and it feels very sudden. I'm grateful she didn't have to suffer, but I thought she was healthy and would be with us for a couple more years.  I started feeling symptoms for covid on Monday, but tested negative until Wednesday. Monday night after our short walk I heard her coughing, but that was the only time it was that bad. She did cough sometimes still after drinking water. Tuesday she wouldn't eat her food unless I mixed some rice into it. Wednesday her symptoms started worsening. I finally got her to eat by mixing salmon into her food, but she vomited that night. This was also when she started acting really weird and panting nonstop and wouldn't stop pacing. I let her sleep outside Wednesday night because I couldn't sleep with her constant footsteps. I checked on her Thursday morning and she was still panting and pacing. I called her vet, but they said they couldn't do anything as I was covid positive. I boiled her some chicken and she ate that. Thursday night hit, she didn't eat the rest of the chicken I boiled for her, but I was still hopeful because she was still drinking lots of water and a few times when I would check on her she would try to be sleeping. I let her sleep outside again because of the pacing. Friday morning I found her and it was the worst day of my life.  Please help me understand. Has she been suffering more than she let on? Should I have seen the signs when I noticed I couldn't take her on our usual miles long walks anymore, had to start carrying her into my car (she used to hate being carried), and when her appetite started decreasing? Or was it covid? I thought I read online that when pets become infected with covid, it's not life threatening. Why did it all happen so fast?  More info that might help: She was a rescue puppy we got from some random guy who needed this litter taken off his hands so might not have been a reputable breeder. Her mom was a boxer, not sure about the dad, but I always suspected he may have been a lab mix. When I found her on Friday, she was lying down on all fours on her belly and her eyes were open.  Thank you in advance and I'm sorry for mobile formatting.","c_root_id_A":"icon9pc","c_root_id_B":"icp8zfm","created_at_utc_A":1655451593,"created_at_utc_B":1655468443,"score_A":6,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Can dogs get covid?","human_ref_B":"There's no way to know for sure without performing a necropsy, but clinically that does not sound suspicious of pneumonia\/covid. The first thing I would want to rule out is underling heart failure with those clinical signs, but if you are able to do a necropsy I would encourage you to do so.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16850.0,"score_ratio":5.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hogig2j","c_root_id_B":"hofrgxs","created_at_utc_A":1639447722,"created_at_utc_B":1639435228,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"looks like you're being a good cat owner person. what you've described could fit with a couple pretty simple things (they don't like lists or diagnoses on this sub) and it appears to have settled down. so maybe you're OK for now (I. E., not an emergency). but a routine exam and fecal exam\/dewormer would be appropriate.","human_ref_B":"There's Hamilton Regional Emergency Vet at 50 Dundurn Street South","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12494.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofk5ep","c_root_id_B":"hogig2j","created_at_utc_A":1639432171,"created_at_utc_B":1639447722,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"When was the last time he urinated?  Is he squatting like he's trying to defecate or go pee?","human_ref_B":"looks like you're being a good cat owner person. what you've described could fit with a couple pretty simple things (they don't like lists or diagnoses on this sub) and it appears to have settled down. so maybe you're OK for now (I. E., not an emergency). but a routine exam and fecal exam\/dewormer would be appropriate.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15551.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofo2zn","c_root_id_B":"hogig2j","created_at_utc_A":1639433814,"created_at_utc_B":1639447722,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"When was he last tested for worms? Has there been a time since your last test in which he could have contracted worms or picked up flees?   When did you move into your apartment\/house? Did a cat live in the apt or home before you? Has a new cat come into the neighborhood?   Have you recently changed his litter?","human_ref_B":"looks like you're being a good cat owner person. what you've described could fit with a couple pretty simple things (they don't like lists or diagnoses on this sub) and it appears to have settled down. so maybe you're OK for now (I. E., not an emergency). but a routine exam and fecal exam\/dewormer would be appropriate.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13908.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofq4u1","c_root_id_B":"hogig2j","created_at_utc_A":1639434667,"created_at_utc_B":1639447722,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Prob. Ate something?","human_ref_B":"looks like you're being a good cat owner person. what you've described could fit with a couple pretty simple things (they don't like lists or diagnoses on this sub) and it appears to have settled down. so maybe you're OK for now (I. E., not an emergency). but a routine exam and fecal exam\/dewormer would be appropriate.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13055.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofrgxs","c_root_id_B":"hofk5ep","created_at_utc_A":1639435228,"created_at_utc_B":1639432171,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"There's Hamilton Regional Emergency Vet at 50 Dundurn Street South","human_ref_B":"When was the last time he urinated?  Is he squatting like he's trying to defecate or go pee?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3057.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofrgxs","c_root_id_B":"hofo2zn","created_at_utc_A":1639435228,"created_at_utc_B":1639433814,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"There's Hamilton Regional Emergency Vet at 50 Dundurn Street South","human_ref_B":"When was he last tested for worms? Has there been a time since your last test in which he could have contracted worms or picked up flees?   When did you move into your apartment\/house? Did a cat live in the apt or home before you? Has a new cat come into the neighborhood?   Have you recently changed his litter?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1414.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"rfq9ze","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"My cat has a worrying issue that came out of the blue and there's no emergency vet openings anywhere near me, any idea what could be wrong? Species\/breed: Domestic Medium Hair Cat  Age: 2  Sex: Male\/neutered   weight: 4.6kg (measured 2 weeks ago)  History: has all his shots and such, no prior medical history otherwise  Duration: 3-4 hours so far  Location: Hamilton Canada  &#x200B;  I'll try to be as detailed as possible but as short as possible  So my cat has been acting normal all day, out of the blue he gets up and starts frantically trying to bite objects near him for a few moments, then proceeds to make frantic meows and then hiss at the air, he slugs around a bit still meowing and hissing and then goes to hide under the bed.  10 minutes later he comes out to head to his litter, proceeds to poop on the floor and drag his butt, then pukes near where he pooped.  over the next 20 minutes he is in and out of his litter box, back hairs arched and he looks like hes in pain.  as of now he's laying on my couch sleeping and looking comfortable, but I'm still super worried, nothing about his puke or poop seemed unusual, other than the fact he NEVER pukes and he's perfect when it comes to using the bathroom.  is this perhaps some constipation or should I be as worried as I am?  I've called all the vets and the emergency vets in my area, absolutely none of them have any openings as there seems to be an unprecedented vet shortage according to what I've been told, if there's any clarification anyone would like or any questions you want to ask, please feel free, I'll gladly answer what I can.","c_root_id_A":"hofq4u1","c_root_id_B":"hofrgxs","created_at_utc_A":1639434667,"created_at_utc_B":1639435228,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Prob. Ate something?","human_ref_B":"There's Hamilton Regional Emergency Vet at 50 Dundurn Street South","labels":0,"seconds_difference":561.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"bmnqoh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"META] It\u2019s kitten season! You found a litter of kittens - now what?! During kitten season, which occurs largely in the spring and summer, it is not uncommon to stumble upon a nest of kittens. Your first instinct is to help them, which is awesome, but first you need to read this thread! Not all kittens you will stumble upon are orphaned.  First I want to make a point very clear: **kittens have the greatest chance of survival if their mother is in the picture**. As much as rescues and foster homes try, we cannot ever do as good of a job taking care of them as their real mom does! Kittens require frequent nursing (typically a couple of times an hour), help eliminating (mother stimulates them with her tongue to pee and poop), and a lot of warmth and attention. Trust me - waking up four times a night to feed bottle babies is not fun!  ## Before Jumping To The Rescue  **A single kitten wandering alone** is often abandoned (either by a human or the mother), and should be rescued quickly - wait and watch from afar for 20-30 minutes to see if the mom is just in the middle of transporting it. If no mother has come in that time, rescue it.  **A litter of kittens** (2+ kittens):  * Before attempting your daring rescue mission to save the abandoned kittens, you need to **wait from afar and watch**. The kittens may not actually be abandoned! Mother cats do not stay at the nest 24\/7 - they hunt, take breaks from their babies, and patrol near the nest to look for danger. The queen could also be in the middle of moving the nest, which she does one at a time. Watch from a good distance away, because if you are too close the queen will likely not approach - this is a defense strategy to make sure predators don\u2019t locate the nest by following her. Sometimes watching from far away is still too close, and you will need to go away for a few hours.    * If you see the queen, you know the kittens are being taken care of and you do not need to intervene (except to call a rescue, and possibly provide food\/shelter for the mother).    * Clean kittens who are sleeping soundly are probably not abandoned. Dirty and crying kittens are probably hungry and MAY have been abandoned and need rescue. Although remember that as soon as kittens wake, they start crying and want to eat! Neonates spend all their time either eating or sleeping. If you mess with them and they start to cry\/crawl around, it does not mean they are starving - that\u2019s just what they do when they are awake. * Contact a local rescue. If they have the resources, they will trap the mother and kittens (if the mother is in the picture), and take care of them. They can bottle feed truly abandoned kittens, as well. **Please contact the rescue before removing the kittens** \\- only remove the kittens under their direction if you can help it. * If you need to leave before you\u2019ve seen the queen, assess the situation:    * Are there any dangers nearby? Neighborhood dogs, humans who might harm them, etc? If the kittens are not in immediate grave danger, they will be fine for a while as you wait for mom.    * What is the temperature? If it is very cold or the kittens are very wet, it is okay to put them in a sideways cardboard box (possibly with a clean T shirt, dry straw, or a heated water bottle) - however, try to limit the amount of human-scented things near them. * If you find the queen, and she is friendly towards humans, she and the kittens should be rescued together. * If you\u2019ve waited a while and have not seen the queen in several hours (the warmer the weather, the longer the kittens can be left alone) or the kittens are in immediate grave danger, and you have not been able to reach a rescue, you can attempt to rescue the kittens.  ## Rescuing Kittens  * **Kittens need warmth** \\- they can suffer from hypothermia really easily. Place the kittens in a cardboard box or cat carrier lined with T-shirts (towels can catch on their nails) and covered with a blanket, with a warm water bottle for them. The ideal warmth source is a SnuggleSafe. (See more info in the bottle feeding attachment.)    * The human body temperature is at 98.6F, but the internal temperature of a kitten needs to be 99.5-102.5F - therefore, your body warmth alone is not enough to keep them warm! * Call all of the rescues nearby to look for someone to take them. Foster homes and rescues are highly trained to deal with bottle babies, and can deal with all of the obstacles associated with it. * Call your vet and schedule an appointment. The kittens may be dehydrated, sick, etc - kittens die really easily and fast, so a physical exam and medical care is very important. They may be sick without you realizing it.  ## I Already Rescued Them!  * First follow the steps in \u201cRescuing Kittens\u201d. * If you are going to be caring for the kittens, be prepared for a lot of work and possibly the death of some or all of the kittens. The information I will provide is for emergency care of kittens (no more than a day or two) until you can get the kittens to an appropriate rescue or the vet. * You must bottle feed the kittens every 2-3 hours. [Here is my quick guide to bottle feeding**.** **PLEASE read this before attempting to bottle feed!**    * You need to make sure they are eating enough, so follow this chart, and use a kitchen food scale to weigh them directly before and after feeding.    * KMR is the best formula - do not use the \u201chomemade\u201d recipes unless it is an emergency! Never use cow\/goat\/soy\/almond\/etc milk. Why you shouldn't use goat\/cow milk.    * Here are three resources to figure out their approximate age: Kitten Age Progression, Determining a Kitten\u2019s Age, and Determining by Weight.    * Keep a log for each individual kitten of: the time you fed it, how much they consumed, their weight before feeding, their weight after feeding, what they eliminated (urine and\/or feces), and any medical concerns. Here is a great log for that \\- I suggest printing one for each kitten.    * If kittens will not latch to the bottle, you can try to use a clean eye dropper or needle-less syringe to SLOWLY drop KMR into the kitten\u2019s mouth.    * If you see anything bubbling out of the kitten's nose as you are feeding it, **milk likely got into the lungs and aspiration pneumonia can quickly develop**. If this happens take it to a vet immediately. * **Signs of an emergency that NEEDS to be seen by a vet immediately:**    * The kitten is lethargic and not responding    * The kitten has trouble breathing    * The kitten or cat is vomiting blood    * Uncontrollable bleeding    * Bloody, liquid diarrhea in a lethargic animal    * Fractured limb (part of the limb is usually flaccid and painful to the touch)    * Pale, blue or white gums if accompanied by lethargy    * Kitten with a body temperature below 97 degrees especially if accompanied by lethargy, pale gums or inappetence    * Kitten with a temperature of 106 degrees or above  ## Here are some additional resources:  * What to do when you find \"orphaned\" kittens * What to Do (and NOT Do) If You Find a Newborn Kitten * Bottle Feeding by the Kitten Lady * What to do if you find a bunny\/rabbit nest","c_root_id_A":"epz56de","c_root_id_B":"eq8vchb","created_at_utc_A":1559658627,"created_at_utc_B":1559876511,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Gonna comment here since it seems like the point of this thread is to eliminate an influx of posts.  I keep seeing a young (not kitten size, but not full adult) grey kitten squeezing under a rut in the dirt and living under my porch. I have no way of accessing the area unless I go in through the crawl space. I\u2019m having trouble identifying whether it lives alone, or if it has family I haven\u2019t seen yet, but I want to help it out. What should I do to draw out the cats so I know whether or not to it (or them) out?","human_ref_B":"Just stumbling upon this and I\u2019d like to proudly add that I\u2019ve recently bottle raised a kitten from a week old until now and he\u2019s a very happy, cuddly, chubby, and healthy 6 week old. I love my little boy so much and I\u2019m so glad I was able to do this for him","labels":0,"seconds_difference":217884.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"bmnqoh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"META] It\u2019s kitten season! You found a litter of kittens - now what?! During kitten season, which occurs largely in the spring and summer, it is not uncommon to stumble upon a nest of kittens. Your first instinct is to help them, which is awesome, but first you need to read this thread! Not all kittens you will stumble upon are orphaned.  First I want to make a point very clear: **kittens have the greatest chance of survival if their mother is in the picture**. As much as rescues and foster homes try, we cannot ever do as good of a job taking care of them as their real mom does! Kittens require frequent nursing (typically a couple of times an hour), help eliminating (mother stimulates them with her tongue to pee and poop), and a lot of warmth and attention. Trust me - waking up four times a night to feed bottle babies is not fun!  ## Before Jumping To The Rescue  **A single kitten wandering alone** is often abandoned (either by a human or the mother), and should be rescued quickly - wait and watch from afar for 20-30 minutes to see if the mom is just in the middle of transporting it. If no mother has come in that time, rescue it.  **A litter of kittens** (2+ kittens):  * Before attempting your daring rescue mission to save the abandoned kittens, you need to **wait from afar and watch**. The kittens may not actually be abandoned! Mother cats do not stay at the nest 24\/7 - they hunt, take breaks from their babies, and patrol near the nest to look for danger. The queen could also be in the middle of moving the nest, which she does one at a time. Watch from a good distance away, because if you are too close the queen will likely not approach - this is a defense strategy to make sure predators don\u2019t locate the nest by following her. Sometimes watching from far away is still too close, and you will need to go away for a few hours.    * If you see the queen, you know the kittens are being taken care of and you do not need to intervene (except to call a rescue, and possibly provide food\/shelter for the mother).    * Clean kittens who are sleeping soundly are probably not abandoned. Dirty and crying kittens are probably hungry and MAY have been abandoned and need rescue. Although remember that as soon as kittens wake, they start crying and want to eat! Neonates spend all their time either eating or sleeping. If you mess with them and they start to cry\/crawl around, it does not mean they are starving - that\u2019s just what they do when they are awake. * Contact a local rescue. If they have the resources, they will trap the mother and kittens (if the mother is in the picture), and take care of them. They can bottle feed truly abandoned kittens, as well. **Please contact the rescue before removing the kittens** \\- only remove the kittens under their direction if you can help it. * If you need to leave before you\u2019ve seen the queen, assess the situation:    * Are there any dangers nearby? Neighborhood dogs, humans who might harm them, etc? If the kittens are not in immediate grave danger, they will be fine for a while as you wait for mom.    * What is the temperature? If it is very cold or the kittens are very wet, it is okay to put them in a sideways cardboard box (possibly with a clean T shirt, dry straw, or a heated water bottle) - however, try to limit the amount of human-scented things near them. * If you find the queen, and she is friendly towards humans, she and the kittens should be rescued together. * If you\u2019ve waited a while and have not seen the queen in several hours (the warmer the weather, the longer the kittens can be left alone) or the kittens are in immediate grave danger, and you have not been able to reach a rescue, you can attempt to rescue the kittens.  ## Rescuing Kittens  * **Kittens need warmth** \\- they can suffer from hypothermia really easily. Place the kittens in a cardboard box or cat carrier lined with T-shirts (towels can catch on their nails) and covered with a blanket, with a warm water bottle for them. The ideal warmth source is a SnuggleSafe. (See more info in the bottle feeding attachment.)    * The human body temperature is at 98.6F, but the internal temperature of a kitten needs to be 99.5-102.5F - therefore, your body warmth alone is not enough to keep them warm! * Call all of the rescues nearby to look for someone to take them. Foster homes and rescues are highly trained to deal with bottle babies, and can deal with all of the obstacles associated with it. * Call your vet and schedule an appointment. The kittens may be dehydrated, sick, etc - kittens die really easily and fast, so a physical exam and medical care is very important. They may be sick without you realizing it.  ## I Already Rescued Them!  * First follow the steps in \u201cRescuing Kittens\u201d. * If you are going to be caring for the kittens, be prepared for a lot of work and possibly the death of some or all of the kittens. The information I will provide is for emergency care of kittens (no more than a day or two) until you can get the kittens to an appropriate rescue or the vet. * You must bottle feed the kittens every 2-3 hours. [Here is my quick guide to bottle feeding**.** **PLEASE read this before attempting to bottle feed!**    * You need to make sure they are eating enough, so follow this chart, and use a kitchen food scale to weigh them directly before and after feeding.    * KMR is the best formula - do not use the \u201chomemade\u201d recipes unless it is an emergency! Never use cow\/goat\/soy\/almond\/etc milk. Why you shouldn't use goat\/cow milk.    * Here are three resources to figure out their approximate age: Kitten Age Progression, Determining a Kitten\u2019s Age, and Determining by Weight.    * Keep a log for each individual kitten of: the time you fed it, how much they consumed, their weight before feeding, their weight after feeding, what they eliminated (urine and\/or feces), and any medical concerns. Here is a great log for that \\- I suggest printing one for each kitten.    * If kittens will not latch to the bottle, you can try to use a clean eye dropper or needle-less syringe to SLOWLY drop KMR into the kitten\u2019s mouth.    * If you see anything bubbling out of the kitten's nose as you are feeding it, **milk likely got into the lungs and aspiration pneumonia can quickly develop**. If this happens take it to a vet immediately. * **Signs of an emergency that NEEDS to be seen by a vet immediately:**    * The kitten is lethargic and not responding    * The kitten has trouble breathing    * The kitten or cat is vomiting blood    * Uncontrollable bleeding    * Bloody, liquid diarrhea in a lethargic animal    * Fractured limb (part of the limb is usually flaccid and painful to the touch)    * Pale, blue or white gums if accompanied by lethargy    * Kitten with a body temperature below 97 degrees especially if accompanied by lethargy, pale gums or inappetence    * Kitten with a temperature of 106 degrees or above  ## Here are some additional resources:  * What to do when you find \"orphaned\" kittens * What to Do (and NOT Do) If You Find a Newborn Kitten * Bottle Feeding by the Kitten Lady * What to do if you find a bunny\/rabbit nest","c_root_id_A":"eq5b95b","c_root_id_B":"eq8vchb","created_at_utc_A":1559796775,"created_at_utc_B":1559876511,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I've got a momma cat and 4 kittens living in my backyard. The kittens look to be 6 or 7 weeks old--they're running around on their own, climbing, playing and they seem healthy and happy. I've been leaving water and wet food out for mom and babies and the kittens are eating the regular food. The only thing is that the queen hisses at me if I get near the kittens, and I don't want to take them away from her anyway as they're too young.   Is the best thing to just continue providing the kittens with food\/water\/shelter until they're old enough to be on their own, or is there something else I could be doing? Will the queen stop being so protective over the kittens so I can get near them? And does she just leave them at a certain point?","human_ref_B":"Just stumbling upon this and I\u2019d like to proudly add that I\u2019ve recently bottle raised a kitten from a week old until now and he\u2019s a very happy, cuddly, chubby, and healthy 6 week old. I love my little boy so much and I\u2019m so glad I was able to do this for him","labels":0,"seconds_difference":79736.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"zml9i7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"Odds of heart attack in 12 year old small breed dog due to being startled by a toy? Context: family dog was awake and half paying attention to us. I tossed a stuffed toy in his direction and when it landed he jumped up and was then willing go go outside.   My father screamed at me for this, saying I\u2019m trying to kill the dog and give him a heart attack\u2026  So is this a common thing that happens? Could I have just accidentally killed my dog? \ud83d\ude23","c_root_id_A":"j0c1qua","c_root_id_B":"j0bxxap","created_at_utc_A":1671119002,"created_at_utc_B":1671117481,"score_A":23,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"There's a big difference between startled and scared shitless.","human_ref_B":"It's just not nice to scare an animal for no reason, so even if it might not cause a heart attack, you shouldn't do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1521.0,"score_ratio":2.3}
{"post_id":"ejlsbb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"What is the funniest thing a client has told you during euthanasia? First my vet is awesome, this has nothing to do with her skills.  But right when my cat was being euthanized I sobbed \"the last thing he will see is my ugly face\" and she snorted laughing. Then I started laughing.  I'm in a morbid mood, does anyone have good dying stories?","c_root_id_A":"fcyu9dr","c_root_id_B":"fczkx6a","created_at_utc_A":1578087207,"created_at_utc_B":1578103481,"score_A":26,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Our chow chow had a tumor growing in the back of her mouth\/throat. We had scheduled a vet to come euthanize her at home before the symptoms got too severe. My husband and I made her a \u201clast meal\u201d of sorts and shared our tacos with her. Well this dog LOVED food and tried to scarf down an entire taco in one bite. With an already compromised swallow ability from the tumor, she started choking (as anyone would who tried to swallow a taco whole) and my husband and I looked at each other like OMG. Thinking we had accidentally killed our dog hours before she was set to be euthanized. She ended up swallowing and being okay but we still kind of laugh about it to this day \ud83d\ude05","human_ref_B":"I was going over cremation paperwork with a couple before the euthanasia and in between sobs that were debating if it would be uncouth to put the cat's nickname on the urn. Her nickname was TittyFace.      They went for it","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16274.0,"score_ratio":1.2692307692}
{"post_id":"ejlsbb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"What is the funniest thing a client has told you during euthanasia? First my vet is awesome, this has nothing to do with her skills.  But right when my cat was being euthanized I sobbed \"the last thing he will see is my ugly face\" and she snorted laughing. Then I started laughing.  I'm in a morbid mood, does anyone have good dying stories?","c_root_id_A":"fcz7nab","c_root_id_B":"fczkx6a","created_at_utc_A":1578095317,"created_at_utc_B":1578103481,"score_A":21,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Golden retriever Died of liver failure due to old age.   I said \u201cI guess he won\u2019t be livering for long\u201d during the diagnosis because I\u2019m an idiot.","human_ref_B":"I was going over cremation paperwork with a couple before the euthanasia and in between sobs that were debating if it would be uncouth to put the cat's nickname on the urn. Her nickname was TittyFace.      They went for it","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8164.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"979y7t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Non-medical\/vet school question: I\u2019m worried about my chances of getting into vet school, and was hoping to get some advice on this sub! I\u2019m current an undergrad student at the University of California, Davis (out of state). My cumulative GPA sits at a 3.2 right now, and my science GPA (estimated) is at about a 3.0 (+\/- .05). I don\u2019t have much vet experience yet, about 100 hours with 50 hours of regular animal experience.  I\u2019ve been thinking of taking a gap year to get more experience in the vet field I wish to work in, but I don\u2019t know if this would hurt me more than benefit me. I plan on stepping it up this year in regards to grades, really focusing on and getting help when I need it instead of procrastinating.   I\u2019m just wondering, basically, what your GPAs were when you got accepted, and how many times you applied (also where would be cool, too! I\u2019m expanding my vet school options as well).  Currently, I\u2019ll be applying to UPenn as my first choice, as it\u2019s my only in-state option that I like. The others will be Cornell, Colorado State, and UCD.  Any advice for me in regards to my GPA, prepping for the GRE, experience, etc.?","c_root_id_A":"e46vuru","c_root_id_B":"e46udsf","created_at_utc_A":1534275091,"created_at_utc_B":1534273885,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I can help answer this as I just applied to school in the 2017 application cycle. I live in Arizona so no in state schools here. I had a 3.73 cumulative GPA, average GRE scores, and over 5000 hours of hands on technician work. I applied to 5 schools in total (Colorado, Washington, UC Davis, Georgia, and Midwestern) and only got even asked to interview at Midwestern. They eventually accepted me, and I start school in just over a week.   I would highly recommend you work on getting more animal experience hours. Most schools require at minimum 200 hours. And beyond that, you want to make sure that you have ample amount of time to ensure this is the right field for you, as it is not right for everyone. Furthermore one of your letters of recommendation needs to be from a veterinarian, so you want to make sure you\u2019re able to form a good relationship with one so they can adequately write you and outstanding letter.   If you have any questions feel free to reach out!","human_ref_B":"What year in undergrad are you? You need to raise your GPA. It is going to be an uphill battle being accepted anywhere with it in the low 3.2s, nevermind relatively competitive universities like the ones on your list.   Also, if you only have 100 hours of vet experience, you have no idea if you actually want to be a vet. Get more experience in small animal general practice (even if you like exotics, 90% of the people who want to do zoo\/exotics end up doing GP because it's more available) and decide if it's even the career for you.   A gap year won't hurt you, but your grades need to go up a lot, and depending on how many credit hours you have, that can be very difficult.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1206.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imra5vm","c_root_id_B":"imr7005","created_at_utc_A":1662093190,"created_at_utc_B":1662091378,"score_A":61,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Most mammary tumors in cats are cancerous. Without examining your cat I can\u2019t say what they saw or felt, and without having them removed and tested we can\u2019t say for certain what they are. The treatment for mammary tumors in cats is radical surgical removal +\/- chemotherapy. If you wanted to have the removal done, it would make the most sense while she was already under anesthesia.   Here is some information on mammary tumors in cats. https:\/\/vet.osu.edu\/vmc\/companion\/our-services\/oncology-and-hematology\/common-tumor-types\/feline-mammary-tumors. The survival times are averages, so some do better and some do worse.","human_ref_B":"I am not qualified to respond, but as someone who had to support a friend through an instant pressured decision like that, I am proud of you for getting your baby back and getting home. My friend was pressured to put her cat down and we we\u2019re given an opportunity to say bye. Cherish every single extra day you guys have together.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1812.0,"score_ratio":7.625}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imsz49x","c_root_id_B":"ims864s","created_at_utc_A":1662130875,"created_at_utc_B":1662118544,"score_A":46,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sick and tired of people coming on this subreddit and wondering if every suggested diagnostic is a \"money grab\". I wish we had magical X-ray glasses to evaluate each patient and know why they're sick or know whether a mass is malignant or benign. We don't. Veterinary care costs money, and it is the veterinarian's job to offer all possible options including everything from the gold standard treatment plan ($$$) to euthanasia if they determine it is reasonable. Put yourself in our shoes - do you think we enjoy euthanizing pets? Does it seem like something we would recommend for no reason - considering that we have chosen a profession dedicated to helping and treating sick animals?  > Where did me or the vet go wrong here?  No one went wrong. Declining biopsy does not allow us to know whether the masses are benign (not cancer) or malignant (cancerous), but it is reasonable to have declined if you are unable to afford the procedure\/test. However, without that information we have no idea what your cat's prognosis is.  Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it?  Possibly, but as long as your cat is still eating\/drinking normally, has normal energy levels, and has no other clinical signs at home, it's less likely that something is going on. Cats are notorious for hiding signs of illness until later in the disease course, but screening for disease or metastasis would require diagnostics such as imaging or bloodwork that cost $$$.  > Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic?  No, see above.  > Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  Mammary masses typically do not regress on their own. There are certain tumors that can do this, but these would be very unlikely in this situation. A veterinarian is the one who would need to examine and palpated for these masses. To know for sure if the masses have grown, shrunk, or remained stable, your cat would need to be examined by a veterinarian.","human_ref_B":"If I\u2019m reading this correctly - you declined the biopsy so we have no idea what these masses are but you\u2019re still blaming the vet.  The vet was using statistics to make educated guesses based on their hands being tied with no diagnostics. Most feline mammary masses are malignant and do not have a good prognosis.  I think you need to try to examine this situation objectively to prepare yourself to care for her better in the future.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12331.0,"score_ratio":1.2432432432}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imr7005","c_root_id_B":"imsz49x","created_at_utc_A":1662091378,"created_at_utc_B":1662130875,"score_A":8,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"I am not qualified to respond, but as someone who had to support a friend through an instant pressured decision like that, I am proud of you for getting your baby back and getting home. My friend was pressured to put her cat down and we we\u2019re given an opportunity to say bye. Cherish every single extra day you guys have together.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sick and tired of people coming on this subreddit and wondering if every suggested diagnostic is a \"money grab\". I wish we had magical X-ray glasses to evaluate each patient and know why they're sick or know whether a mass is malignant or benign. We don't. Veterinary care costs money, and it is the veterinarian's job to offer all possible options including everything from the gold standard treatment plan ($$$) to euthanasia if they determine it is reasonable. Put yourself in our shoes - do you think we enjoy euthanizing pets? Does it seem like something we would recommend for no reason - considering that we have chosen a profession dedicated to helping and treating sick animals?  > Where did me or the vet go wrong here?  No one went wrong. Declining biopsy does not allow us to know whether the masses are benign (not cancer) or malignant (cancerous), but it is reasonable to have declined if you are unable to afford the procedure\/test. However, without that information we have no idea what your cat's prognosis is.  Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it?  Possibly, but as long as your cat is still eating\/drinking normally, has normal energy levels, and has no other clinical signs at home, it's less likely that something is going on. Cats are notorious for hiding signs of illness until later in the disease course, but screening for disease or metastasis would require diagnostics such as imaging or bloodwork that cost $$$.  > Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic?  No, see above.  > Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  Mammary masses typically do not regress on their own. There are certain tumors that can do this, but these would be very unlikely in this situation. A veterinarian is the one who would need to examine and palpated for these masses. To know for sure if the masses have grown, shrunk, or remained stable, your cat would need to be examined by a veterinarian.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":39497.0,"score_ratio":5.75}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imrqgqo","c_root_id_B":"imsz49x","created_at_utc_A":1662105046,"created_at_utc_B":1662130875,"score_A":6,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"op get the second opinion if you can but know pet's are expensive but ik you love your girl so I hope it all works out well :)","human_ref_B":"I'm so sick and tired of people coming on this subreddit and wondering if every suggested diagnostic is a \"money grab\". I wish we had magical X-ray glasses to evaluate each patient and know why they're sick or know whether a mass is malignant or benign. We don't. Veterinary care costs money, and it is the veterinarian's job to offer all possible options including everything from the gold standard treatment plan ($$$) to euthanasia if they determine it is reasonable. Put yourself in our shoes - do you think we enjoy euthanizing pets? Does it seem like something we would recommend for no reason - considering that we have chosen a profession dedicated to helping and treating sick animals?  > Where did me or the vet go wrong here?  No one went wrong. Declining biopsy does not allow us to know whether the masses are benign (not cancer) or malignant (cancerous), but it is reasonable to have declined if you are unable to afford the procedure\/test. However, without that information we have no idea what your cat's prognosis is.  Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it?  Possibly, but as long as your cat is still eating\/drinking normally, has normal energy levels, and has no other clinical signs at home, it's less likely that something is going on. Cats are notorious for hiding signs of illness until later in the disease course, but screening for disease or metastasis would require diagnostics such as imaging or bloodwork that cost $$$.  > Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic?  No, see above.  > Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  Mammary masses typically do not regress on their own. There are certain tumors that can do this, but these would be very unlikely in this situation. A veterinarian is the one who would need to examine and palpated for these masses. To know for sure if the masses have grown, shrunk, or remained stable, your cat would need to be examined by a veterinarian.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25829.0,"score_ratio":7.6666666667}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"ims864s","c_root_id_B":"imr7005","created_at_utc_A":1662118544,"created_at_utc_B":1662091378,"score_A":37,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"If I\u2019m reading this correctly - you declined the biopsy so we have no idea what these masses are but you\u2019re still blaming the vet.  The vet was using statistics to make educated guesses based on their hands being tied with no diagnostics. Most feline mammary masses are malignant and do not have a good prognosis.  I think you need to try to examine this situation objectively to prepare yourself to care for her better in the future.","human_ref_B":"I am not qualified to respond, but as someone who had to support a friend through an instant pressured decision like that, I am proud of you for getting your baby back and getting home. My friend was pressured to put her cat down and we we\u2019re given an opportunity to say bye. Cherish every single extra day you guys have together.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27166.0,"score_ratio":4.625}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"ims864s","c_root_id_B":"imrqgqo","created_at_utc_A":1662118544,"created_at_utc_B":1662105046,"score_A":37,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If I\u2019m reading this correctly - you declined the biopsy so we have no idea what these masses are but you\u2019re still blaming the vet.  The vet was using statistics to make educated guesses based on their hands being tied with no diagnostics. Most feline mammary masses are malignant and do not have a good prognosis.  I think you need to try to examine this situation objectively to prepare yourself to care for her better in the future.","human_ref_B":"op get the second opinion if you can but know pet's are expensive but ik you love your girl so I hope it all works out well :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13498.0,"score_ratio":6.1666666667}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imtp3x0","c_root_id_B":"imr7005","created_at_utc_A":1662140964,"created_at_utc_B":1662091378,"score_A":24,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"When a patient is under anesthesia every minute counts. They are IN SURGERY and found something surprising (not uncommon). Unfortunately there was really no time for the vet to wait until you calmed down. Vets #1 interest is to advocate for the pets best interest and sometimes it needs to be at the cost of being less comforting to the owner. It was not the vet being unprofessional.","human_ref_B":"I am not qualified to respond, but as someone who had to support a friend through an instant pressured decision like that, I am proud of you for getting your baby back and getting home. My friend was pressured to put her cat down and we we\u2019re given an opportunity to say bye. Cherish every single extra day you guys have together.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":49586.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"x3olgs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Vet gives ultimatum for cat diagnosed with breast cancer, but the cat is still healthy and living after 6 months Last year I adopted an adorable domestic shorthair cat. She is soon 6 years old. I found her randomly on Facebook and fell in love with her. When I picked her up, her previous owner told me that she does not know much about the cat, as she got it from someone else too and I suppose she didn't care much. Even though her previous owner did not give a flying BEEP about her and allegedly did not know if the cat is vaccinated or any of her medical history, I wanted to save her and give her a permanent home. 4 months went by and I managed to save enough money to get her to the vet and spay her. I took her to the vet and the doctor told me she will give me a call when she is done with the surgery. I leave the vet clinic and as soon as I get home I receive a call from the vet saying that they will not be able to perform the surgery because they found two cysts on the cats abdominal area. The doctor said there is a 90% chance that those would be malignant tumors and the cat has mammary cancer. Of course, I started crying as I grew very attached to the cat in the time I spent with her. The doctor then urged me to make a quick decision as the cat was still under anaesthesia, either sample the tumor to make sure it's malign, go through surgery or put her down. This was a very hard decision for me.   First of all, sampling the tumor or performing the surgery right away would have been extremely expensive and I did not have the money at the time, and second of all, I cannot just put down my cat while I am having a breakdown. I felt like my world fell apart in that moment. Quickly made an appointment at another clinic for a second opinion. I asked the doctor if I have time to start a GoFundMe to get the money as quick as possible and have surgery done and they told me that there is no time and no reason to do that because the cat was still under anaesthesia and I should decide in that moment. If I could go back in time I would tell them how unprofessional it is to make a cat parent go through such a thing. In the end, when they saw that I could not decide as they left me no choice but to put her down in that moment to not 'waste the anaesthesia', they said that there is no point to perform a surgery or sample anyway because there is a high chance that the cat will die under surgery anyway. After hearing this, I cancelled the other appointment check up I had made at the other clinic, as I saw no point in it anymore.   I want to mention that I have nothing against putting down pets, it was just the shock that made me freeze. Incapable of making a choice, I opted to wait for the cat to wake up and to take her home. I rushed back to the clinic and I met the doctor who then advised me to keep an eye out for any signs of illness, as the cat was feeling fine at the time. Doctor gave the cat one month to live... You can judge all you want but I felt it was shocking and cruel to put down a perfectly healthy and happy cat at that time.  As the weeks went by I went through a period of grieving, preparing to say my goodbyes to my sweet little kitty. Spoiled her tons, gave her the space she needed, her favourite snacks...and I waited.  I live in northern Europe where it's extremely expensive to perform surgery, before anyone tries to jump at my neck for not going through with that. Would have costed me about 3300 US Dollars for the surgery, plus an extra 1000 to see if its a malignant tumor, something that my student job would not be able to cover. The check up they did which only included shaving the hair and the anaesthesia costed me 200 US Dollars. I knew this was going to be a very expensive journey and was ready to take out a loan if I could, start a funding campaign, anything. Gave up on the thought because of the vet's advice.  It's been 6 months since then and she is still here. Still normal bowel habits, appetite of an alligator, sociable attitude, pukes once every two weeks and it's always hairballs. And I am wondering, where did me or the vet go wrong here? Is it possible the cat is indeed sick but not showing it? Was it an attempted money grab by the clinic? Could the chest lumps be something else? (I cannot feel or see them anymore as the cat's hair has completely grown back)  TLDR: 6 year old female domestic shorthair cat got diagnosed with mammal cancer, vet did not give her long to live but she is still alive and thriving after 6 months.","c_root_id_A":"imtp3x0","c_root_id_B":"imrqgqo","created_at_utc_A":1662140964,"created_at_utc_B":1662105046,"score_A":24,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"When a patient is under anesthesia every minute counts. They are IN SURGERY and found something surprising (not uncommon). Unfortunately there was really no time for the vet to wait until you calmed down. Vets #1 interest is to advocate for the pets best interest and sometimes it needs to be at the cost of being less comforting to the owner. It was not the vet being unprofessional.","human_ref_B":"op get the second opinion if you can but know pet's are expensive but ik you love your girl so I hope it all works out well :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35918.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"ikz5orr","c_root_id_B":"ikyy9oa","created_at_utc_A":1660938414,"created_at_utc_B":1660935513,"score_A":94,"score_B":91,"human_ref_A":"Large corporations are able to buy in bigger bulk, giving them bigger discounts and allowing them the ability to charge less per item and still make a good profit. This is why online retailers like Chewy are often able to sell even prescription medications for much less. The smaller vet clinics just can't afford to buy such large quantities (especially if it's a medication that will expire before they can use it all), so they can't cash in on those same discounts and thus are forced to charge more for their products in order to still make some profit. They're not trying to rob you or overcharge--they're just trying to stay open. If they were hypothetically forced to lower the cost of these items, they would have to increase the prices elsewhere.  Prices of exams, services, and products vary from area to area, and clinic to clinic, but the prices you've listed are typical for where I live. Everything in a vet clinic feels more expensive because they provide medical services to patients that (usually) don't have health insurance to help cover costs. The primary job of the vet clinic is to advocate for its patients and offer the gold standard of care. To avoid sticker shock, you can ask the clinic to put an alert on your chart indicating to prepare an estimate for future exams--that way you can see the cost of everything before you agree to it and decline items and services as needed.  For flea prevention, prescription medication is going to work the best--that's why it's a prescription! You can request flea, tick, and heartworm prevention from online pharmacies to help save money. There's also CareCredit, ScratchPay, etc to help with vet bills--I think the FAQ has a section related to financial assistance","human_ref_B":"Yes. The markup is covering the rent for the building, the bill for utilities, the payroll for the employees, liability insurance fees, or offsetting other more expensive items that can't be marked up as much without being cost-prohibitive. If vets sold everything at cost, they wouldn't be able to keep their doors open.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2901.0,"score_ratio":1.032967033}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"ikzdgqx","c_root_id_B":"ikzfkgq","created_at_utc_A":1660941462,"created_at_utc_B":1660942299,"score_A":12,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Yes that's pretty common. Vet clinic overheads are comparatively higher than an online pharmacy, it's not possible for them to compete price wise. The markup on items varies depending on pricing structure","human_ref_B":"For next time, you could request your prescription get called into that pharmacy that has the better price if you don\u2019t want to pay the vet\u2019s office for that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":837.0,"score_ratio":3.0833333333}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"il08kyj","c_root_id_B":"il1j1tm","created_at_utc_A":1660954804,"created_at_utc_B":1660981879,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Chewy sells things for cheaper than a hospital can even buy them often.","human_ref_B":"Not saying anything about you in particular, but, a clinic near me just lost a staff member because an owner berated her for suggesting that if she can\u2019t afford her dogs medical care, that she could release her to them. She committed suicide. This is not uncommon for our industry. Often times our technicians and doctors are not treated as fairly or nearly as kindly as human doctors are, even though they\u2019re are put through just as much schooling as their human counterparts. Please be kind, and please know there are very few in the industry that will overcharge you just for the sake of profits. We are all there BECAUSE we love animals and in turn, the people who love them. There is also the running joke, at least at my clinic, that if any of us (including doctors) wanted to make good money, we shouldn\u2019t be working in this industry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27075.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"ikzjs1m","c_root_id_B":"il1j1tm","created_at_utc_A":1660944017,"created_at_utc_B":1660981879,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Worked in a grocery store. 50% markup to breakeven--you're including the cost of labor, building utilities, equipment, etc. Not surprised. This is why  if you need otc, it's better to find it yourself if you can.","human_ref_B":"Not saying anything about you in particular, but, a clinic near me just lost a staff member because an owner berated her for suggesting that if she can\u2019t afford her dogs medical care, that she could release her to them. She committed suicide. This is not uncommon for our industry. Often times our technicians and doctors are not treated as fairly or nearly as kindly as human doctors are, even though they\u2019re are put through just as much schooling as their human counterparts. Please be kind, and please know there are very few in the industry that will overcharge you just for the sake of profits. We are all there BECAUSE we love animals and in turn, the people who love them. There is also the running joke, at least at my clinic, that if any of us (including doctors) wanted to make good money, we shouldn\u2019t be working in this industry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":37862.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"il0d44j","c_root_id_B":"il1j1tm","created_at_utc_A":1660956921,"created_at_utc_B":1660981879,"score_A":4,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"IME veterinarians always mark up medications to help cover the costs of their clinic. If you think it\u2019s an exaggeration or you don\u2019t think the service you receive is worth the mark up, try to get the medication from a pharmacy first. Most medications for pets are also available for humans in the right dosages for pets.","human_ref_B":"Not saying anything about you in particular, but, a clinic near me just lost a staff member because an owner berated her for suggesting that if she can\u2019t afford her dogs medical care, that she could release her to them. She committed suicide. This is not uncommon for our industry. Often times our technicians and doctors are not treated as fairly or nearly as kindly as human doctors are, even though they\u2019re are put through just as much schooling as their human counterparts. Please be kind, and please know there are very few in the industry that will overcharge you just for the sake of profits. We are all there BECAUSE we love animals and in turn, the people who love them. There is also the running joke, at least at my clinic, that if any of us (including doctors) wanted to make good money, we shouldn\u2019t be working in this industry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24958.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"il10994","c_root_id_B":"il1j1tm","created_at_utc_A":1660968563,"created_at_utc_B":1660981879,"score_A":4,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"You get did not try to gouge you.  In reality Veterinary medicine is cheaper than human medicine, but you do not see it due to insurance.  You could have gotten the medication all on line if you felt as though you have been over charged.  I have been a Tech for 17 years and I see the cost behind things but I have also compared the cost of my regular doctors visit vs my animals\u2026 mine is double when looking at the charges that are billed to insurance.  They do have many pet insurance companies out there today that can help you recoup some of your out of pocket cost.  I do have a feeling that a majority of the cost was in the labs that were run due to weight loss, unfortunately a clinic has ZERO control over what the labs charge.  I am sorry you feel as though you have been messed over, but please be understanding to the fact that Veterinary Medicine is in fact Health Care..","human_ref_B":"Not saying anything about you in particular, but, a clinic near me just lost a staff member because an owner berated her for suggesting that if she can\u2019t afford her dogs medical care, that she could release her to them. She committed suicide. This is not uncommon for our industry. Often times our technicians and doctors are not treated as fairly or nearly as kindly as human doctors are, even though they\u2019re are put through just as much schooling as their human counterparts. Please be kind, and please know there are very few in the industry that will overcharge you just for the sake of profits. We are all there BECAUSE we love animals and in turn, the people who love them. There is also the running joke, at least at my clinic, that if any of us (including doctors) wanted to make good money, we shouldn\u2019t be working in this industry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13316.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"wslpgf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Is it typical for a vet to charge over 50% mark up on otc skin cream? Had some real sticker shock when I got my bill from our vet clinic. Our dog has been having some bad hot spots\/constant itching. I knew we needed flea meds, so I made an appointment so I could get the prescription flea meds he needed. The vet recommended a mousse (Douxo), and also some blood tests, since he had lost weight. The exam, blood tests, and mousse came to $330, and that did not include prescription flea meds, as I had to go somewhere else to get those. Anyway, after looking at my receipt, I noticed that the Douxo was $50, and looking online, I see that it normally is sold for $20. I already felt like I had overpaid, but not sure if it\u2019s worth calling about. Is that kind of mark up just typical?","c_root_id_A":"il08kyj","c_root_id_B":"ikzjs1m","created_at_utc_A":1660954804,"created_at_utc_B":1660944017,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Chewy sells things for cheaper than a hospital can even buy them often.","human_ref_B":"Worked in a grocery store. 50% markup to breakeven--you're including the cost of labor, building utilities, equipment, etc. Not surprised. This is why  if you need otc, it's better to find it yourself if you can.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10787.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"zzvcbf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My puppy got a grape on her mouth Hello, I took my attention off on my dog for a bit and found her (4kg, 6 months on shih tzu) with something on her mouth. I took it from her and it\u2019s a  still whole grape(she allows me to touch her mouth so there\u2019s no struggle). She\u2019s doing well so far. What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"j2frozn","c_root_id_B":"j2dqkz2","created_at_utc_A":1672528513,"created_at_utc_B":1672497150,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"One grape isn't going to do anything especially if she didn't even eat it. If it was a handful, I'd tell you to get her to the vet.","human_ref_B":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":31363.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"zzvcbf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My puppy got a grape on her mouth Hello, I took my attention off on my dog for a bit and found her (4kg, 6 months on shih tzu) with something on her mouth. I took it from her and it\u2019s a  still whole grape(she allows me to touch her mouth so there\u2019s no struggle). She\u2019s doing well so far. What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"j2dqkz2","c_root_id_B":"j2fu8vu","created_at_utc_A":1672497150,"created_at_utc_B":1672529672,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"If you want to call the vet, do so. But I don\u2019t think it\u2019s concerning.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":32522.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"thigh7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My mom's dog is suddenly aggressive with me Hi, I have an odd situation on my hands. My mom's 4 year old boxer\/great dane is suddenly aggressive towards me and I am unsure of why. I went to work in the morning as I usually do and whenever I went back home he suddenly tried to attack and bite me. I have been staying at my mom's house the last 8 months with no problems. He used to really like me. He would even crawl into my bed with me but out of nowhere he is suddenly aggressive towards me and seems to wish to harm me. The first day he was aggressive towards me I slid treats into his kennel so he would be more passive towards me but today he reacted the same. He doesn't get upset at the sight of me but as soon as he smells me he loses his mind. Does anyone know what might have caused this reaction or how to remedy it? I have also tried to take showers and change the way I smell to see if that was it but he remains the same towards me.","c_root_id_A":"i19a1ip","c_root_id_B":"i18yxtl","created_at_utc_A":1647675773,"created_at_utc_B":1647666874,"score_A":35,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Any sudden attitude change means it's time for a vet visit. There are medical things that need to be ruled out.","human_ref_B":"Some questions. How do you react\/respond to the dog when you enter the home? Are you wearing something that the dog is unfamiliar with? A hat, piece of clothing, or something else of that nature that may make the dog insecure? Do you make eye contact with the dog when entering the home or attempt to completely ignore the dog?  Biggest challenge is finding what triggered the dog to associate your scent\/presence to the negative event that took place.  I would also question what changes or events happened during the day on the night you came home to this abrupt behavior.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8899.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"sc29l8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Caring for a newborn kitten Just found a newborn kitten, it's still wet. He was inside a plastic bag. Ive raised kittens before but not one so young. What are some special cares he needs?","c_root_id_A":"hu3v05i","c_root_id_B":"hu3ve0j","created_at_utc_A":1643081174,"created_at_utc_B":1643081357,"score_A":7,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Get him to a vet sooner than later.   In the meantime keep him warm and dry. You can make an incubator yourself with a heat pad but make sure it\u2019s not too hot. You can also keep him close, and use your own body heat. He\u2019ll also need to be fed frequently with warmed formula, every couple of hours and will need to be expressed to got to the bathroom.   I\u2019m on mobile right now and can\u2019t link it but there should be more information on the side bar of this sub.","human_ref_B":"See my post about orphaned kittens in the FAQ!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":183.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"sc29l8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Caring for a newborn kitten Just found a newborn kitten, it's still wet. He was inside a plastic bag. Ive raised kittens before but not one so young. What are some special cares he needs?","c_root_id_A":"hu3v4ve","c_root_id_B":"hu3ve0j","created_at_utc_A":1643081236,"created_at_utc_B":1643081357,"score_A":5,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Heating pad. Eye dropper\/syringes for feeding, kitten formula, scale. Genital stimulation for potty. Standard kitten procedures apply until you can get your kitten to the vet. A vet may have potential sources to find a foster mama kitty.","human_ref_B":"See my post about orphaned kittens in the FAQ!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":121.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"rto3d7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog was spayed and her incision is oozing with a side lump. Is this an emergency? My sweet pembroke corga (10 months) was spayed on 12\/20. She was coned at all times and crated throughout the day (as needed) up until 2 days ago (as per the vet) to protect her incision and to keep her resting, but this morning I noticed a lump to the side of it and ooze coming from the incision. The lump is firm but did not seem to bother her too much, the ooze looks like very light colored pus and does not have an odor. She is eating and drinking, acting playful and sweet and in good spirits, she is not acting like anything is wrong.   She has an appointment to get her stitches out on 1\/3\/22 (so in 48 hours) but I don\u2019t know if we should take her in sooner? I called the vet to ask but it\u2019s closed as are all the other vets I tried.   The only option is ER vet and they are crazy full right now and the wait is about 6 hours. My question is, can this wait until Monday morning when she gets her stitches out or is this a true emergency?   No pic as those aren\u2019t allowed I guess.   Thank you in advance and Happy New Year!","c_root_id_A":"hqtsmgp","c_root_id_B":"hqu9x6u","created_at_utc_A":1641059041,"created_at_utc_B":1641066094,"score_A":2,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Pics need to be uploaded elsewhere and linked in","human_ref_B":"Based on your description and the photo, I don't think this warrants an emergency visit. As long as she's eating and drinking and acting normally, and as long as the area doesn't get hot, or the discharge worse or foul smelling, you can keep your regularly scheduled suture removal appointment and ask about it then. Keep her as calm as you can, consider re-crating her until her appointment, just to be safe. And of course full-time back in the cone. You can use a warm wet washcloth to gently wipe away the gunk on her skin. Avoid rubbing the open area.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7053.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"rto3d7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog was spayed and her incision is oozing with a side lump. Is this an emergency? My sweet pembroke corga (10 months) was spayed on 12\/20. She was coned at all times and crated throughout the day (as needed) up until 2 days ago (as per the vet) to protect her incision and to keep her resting, but this morning I noticed a lump to the side of it and ooze coming from the incision. The lump is firm but did not seem to bother her too much, the ooze looks like very light colored pus and does not have an odor. She is eating and drinking, acting playful and sweet and in good spirits, she is not acting like anything is wrong.   She has an appointment to get her stitches out on 1\/3\/22 (so in 48 hours) but I don\u2019t know if we should take her in sooner? I called the vet to ask but it\u2019s closed as are all the other vets I tried.   The only option is ER vet and they are crazy full right now and the wait is about 6 hours. My question is, can this wait until Monday morning when she gets her stitches out or is this a true emergency?   No pic as those aren\u2019t allowed I guess.   Thank you in advance and Happy New Year!","c_root_id_A":"hqu5ebi","c_root_id_B":"hqu9x6u","created_at_utc_A":1641064261,"created_at_utc_B":1641066094,"score_A":2,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"I don't see stitches in the photo you posted..I wonder if in the last 2 days she has chewed them off. As long as she's eating and drinking and not lethargic, I'd put the cone back on until your already scheduled vet appt. If anything changes then I'd take her to emergency. The lump could just be some scar tissue which is common but the vet will advise you of that when you take her in.","human_ref_B":"Based on your description and the photo, I don't think this warrants an emergency visit. As long as she's eating and drinking and acting normally, and as long as the area doesn't get hot, or the discharge worse or foul smelling, you can keep your regularly scheduled suture removal appointment and ask about it then. Keep her as calm as you can, consider re-crating her until her appointment, just to be safe. And of course full-time back in the cone. You can use a warm wet washcloth to gently wipe away the gunk on her skin. Avoid rubbing the open area.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1833.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"rto3d7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog was spayed and her incision is oozing with a side lump. Is this an emergency? My sweet pembroke corga (10 months) was spayed on 12\/20. She was coned at all times and crated throughout the day (as needed) up until 2 days ago (as per the vet) to protect her incision and to keep her resting, but this morning I noticed a lump to the side of it and ooze coming from the incision. The lump is firm but did not seem to bother her too much, the ooze looks like very light colored pus and does not have an odor. She is eating and drinking, acting playful and sweet and in good spirits, she is not acting like anything is wrong.   She has an appointment to get her stitches out on 1\/3\/22 (so in 48 hours) but I don\u2019t know if we should take her in sooner? I called the vet to ask but it\u2019s closed as are all the other vets I tried.   The only option is ER vet and they are crazy full right now and the wait is about 6 hours. My question is, can this wait until Monday morning when she gets her stitches out or is this a true emergency?   No pic as those aren\u2019t allowed I guess.   Thank you in advance and Happy New Year!","c_root_id_A":"hqtsmgp","c_root_id_B":"hqv51kg","created_at_utc_A":1641059041,"created_at_utc_B":1641079113,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Pics need to be uploaded elsewhere and linked in","human_ref_B":"The picture doesn\u2019t look great but I don\u2019t think it warrants an emergency visit. If she happens to become lethargic, not eating or drinking, or the incision starts looking worst, I\u2019d bring her in sooner. Until then, ensure her e-collar is left on and she cannot access her incision.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20072.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"rto3d7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My dog was spayed and her incision is oozing with a side lump. Is this an emergency? My sweet pembroke corga (10 months) was spayed on 12\/20. She was coned at all times and crated throughout the day (as needed) up until 2 days ago (as per the vet) to protect her incision and to keep her resting, but this morning I noticed a lump to the side of it and ooze coming from the incision. The lump is firm but did not seem to bother her too much, the ooze looks like very light colored pus and does not have an odor. She is eating and drinking, acting playful and sweet and in good spirits, she is not acting like anything is wrong.   She has an appointment to get her stitches out on 1\/3\/22 (so in 48 hours) but I don\u2019t know if we should take her in sooner? I called the vet to ask but it\u2019s closed as are all the other vets I tried.   The only option is ER vet and they are crazy full right now and the wait is about 6 hours. My question is, can this wait until Monday morning when she gets her stitches out or is this a true emergency?   No pic as those aren\u2019t allowed I guess.   Thank you in advance and Happy New Year!","c_root_id_A":"hqu5ebi","c_root_id_B":"hqv51kg","created_at_utc_A":1641064261,"created_at_utc_B":1641079113,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I don't see stitches in the photo you posted..I wonder if in the last 2 days she has chewed them off. As long as she's eating and drinking and not lethargic, I'd put the cone back on until your already scheduled vet appt. If anything changes then I'd take her to emergency. The lump could just be some scar tissue which is common but the vet will advise you of that when you take her in.","human_ref_B":"The picture doesn\u2019t look great but I don\u2019t think it warrants an emergency visit. If she happens to become lethargic, not eating or drinking, or the incision starts looking worst, I\u2019d bring her in sooner. Until then, ensure her e-collar is left on and she cannot access her incision.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14852.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"2buhum","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"meta] Use your judgement more wisely. If your pet is obviously in danger, don't use the precious time to get confirmation from an internet stranger I mean, seriously, half the posts are about cases when it could not be more obvious that the pet needs medical attention.   If your dog is [shaking for 5 hours, do you really think that someone will come along and say *\"oh, don't worry, that's totally normal, happens every time, your dog is fine, don't waste your money\"*. Your cat stops eating and drinking, do you expect him\/her to send you a written request for a vet visit? Or a 10 week kitten can't keep any food down? Ugly injury with swelling, blood and pus? Would you seriously use the word \"healty\" in these cases?  I do not mean to single out the posters, these are simply the most recent examples I have seen. I also understand that money can be an issue and it is a hard decision. But time is precious, don't sit around waiting for confirmation because you might regret it later.","c_root_id_A":"cj9144o","c_root_id_B":"cj993u4","created_at_utc_A":1406452810,"created_at_utc_B":1406482084,"score_A":9,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"But if you have to ask if it should be taken to a vet, you should probably just take it.","human_ref_B":"If we shame people for asking questions like these, they will simply stop asking and likely not seek help at all.  Yes, it may seem obvious, but I would rather have them ask than do nothing and have the pet suffer because of that silence.  If all they need is some assurance that they are not over-reacting or reading too much into things, well, that's what we are here for.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29274.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"2buhum","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"meta] Use your judgement more wisely. If your pet is obviously in danger, don't use the precious time to get confirmation from an internet stranger I mean, seriously, half the posts are about cases when it could not be more obvious that the pet needs medical attention.   If your dog is [shaking for 5 hours, do you really think that someone will come along and say *\"oh, don't worry, that's totally normal, happens every time, your dog is fine, don't waste your money\"*. Your cat stops eating and drinking, do you expect him\/her to send you a written request for a vet visit? Or a 10 week kitten can't keep any food down? Ugly injury with swelling, blood and pus? Would you seriously use the word \"healty\" in these cases?  I do not mean to single out the posters, these are simply the most recent examples I have seen. I also understand that money can be an issue and it is a hard decision. But time is precious, don't sit around waiting for confirmation because you might regret it later.","c_root_id_A":"cj993u4","c_root_id_B":"cj93x7m","created_at_utc_A":1406482084,"created_at_utc_B":1406467886,"score_A":12,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"If we shame people for asking questions like these, they will simply stop asking and likely not seek help at all.  Yes, it may seem obvious, but I would rather have them ask than do nothing and have the pet suffer because of that silence.  If all they need is some assurance that they are not over-reacting or reading too much into things, well, that's what we are here for.","human_ref_B":"Posts like your examples sometimes make me wonder what goes through some pet owners' heads.  But as \/u\/urgullibl said, I would like to think they would not have sought veterinary care if some random internet stranger did not tell them to do so.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14198.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"tvsn9w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"the cat just drug this rabbit in, its still alive and we will be releasing it as soon as posable, but in the mean time i was wondering what was going-on with the bumps on the side of its face * Species: rabbit * Age:no * Sex\/Neuter status: is not spayed\/nuterd\\*Breed:no idea * Body weight:have not checked * History:cat took it in to the house 10 min ago * Clinical signs:3 large lumps on the side of its noise * Duration: like 30 min * Your general location: OR usa * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  * the link is to a dock with a picture of the lumps picture of rabbit face","c_root_id_A":"i3cmtf5","c_root_id_B":"i3bprps","created_at_utc_A":1649079420,"created_at_utc_B":1649056648,"score_A":67,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"Those are for sure ticks as others have said.   FYI: Cat saliva is so full of bacteria that it is deadly for small animals. Any animal that is caught by a cat needs to go to wildlife rehabilitation to get a round of antibiotics before it is released.  Source: Not a vet, but I was involved with Wildlife rehabilitation  for many years","human_ref_B":"That is so sad. Probably be a good idea to bring the rabbit to a vet for tick removal before releasing it back from where the cat got it. The clinics usually do it for free.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22772.0,"score_ratio":1.3137254902}
{"post_id":"tvsn9w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"the cat just drug this rabbit in, its still alive and we will be releasing it as soon as posable, but in the mean time i was wondering what was going-on with the bumps on the side of its face * Species: rabbit * Age:no * Sex\/Neuter status: is not spayed\/nuterd\\*Breed:no idea * Body weight:have not checked * History:cat took it in to the house 10 min ago * Clinical signs:3 large lumps on the side of its noise * Duration: like 30 min * Your general location: OR usa * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  * the link is to a dock with a picture of the lumps picture of rabbit face","c_root_id_A":"i3btt9s","c_root_id_B":"i3cmtf5","created_at_utc_A":1649060076,"created_at_utc_B":1649079420,"score_A":24,"score_B":67,"human_ref_A":"Those are ticks","human_ref_B":"Those are for sure ticks as others have said.   FYI: Cat saliva is so full of bacteria that it is deadly for small animals. Any animal that is caught by a cat needs to go to wildlife rehabilitation to get a round of antibiotics before it is released.  Source: Not a vet, but I was involved with Wildlife rehabilitation  for many years","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19344.0,"score_ratio":2.7916666667}
{"post_id":"tvsn9w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"the cat just drug this rabbit in, its still alive and we will be releasing it as soon as posable, but in the mean time i was wondering what was going-on with the bumps on the side of its face * Species: rabbit * Age:no * Sex\/Neuter status: is not spayed\/nuterd\\*Breed:no idea * Body weight:have not checked * History:cat took it in to the house 10 min ago * Clinical signs:3 large lumps on the side of its noise * Duration: like 30 min * Your general location: OR usa * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  * the link is to a dock with a picture of the lumps picture of rabbit face","c_root_id_A":"i3d6dmb","c_root_id_B":"i3ddwfj","created_at_utc_A":1649087620,"created_at_utc_B":1649090560,"score_A":6,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Those are some fat little ticks!","human_ref_B":"Poor bunny! I got choked up \ud83e\udd7a","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2940.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"pf95q4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"10 year old cat hit by a car, need help with his xrays or any advice Hello. My cat was hit by a car during my dad's celebration of life Saturday night. I took him to the vet, got bloodwork done and xrays and the vet said he had broken his spine at the base of his tail. His tail doesn't work, he's on pain killers from the vet. He can't poo or pee on his own without intervention, ie having his bladder expressed but he hasn't pooped since Saturday. The vets said surgery would cost between 3 and 9 thousand dollars and the likelihood that it would fix him is less than 50 percent. He won't eat or drink. I don't even know what I'm asking, I'm just absolutely devastated.","c_root_id_A":"hb3a2vb","c_root_id_B":"hb2u809","created_at_utc_A":1630435716,"created_at_utc_B":1630429304,"score_A":33,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"We are currently dealing with a paralysed cat at work. It can take months for movement and feeling to return. In the mean time, if you want to give him a chance, learn how to express his bladder, you can get cat nappies as well so they don't leak over the house. You can try physiotherapy (flexing and extending the legs, massage). Be careful with urine in contact with skin - it scalds the skin and can cause complications. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'm a Veterinary Nurse","human_ref_B":"That's really terrible. I'm sorry you're going through this. If surgery is out of your budget or not likely to fix it, it may be time to consider your cat's long term quality of life, especially if there's not much to be done for \"fixing\" him. And consider your own quality of life caring for him long term too. If he can only pee\/poop with your help for a long time, what will that mean for your own life? It's a tough choice to make especially after a tragedy like this, and all I can say is to do what you know is best for you and your cat whether it's considering euthanasia, or pursuing treatment\/surgery recommended by your vet. Again this is awful, and my sincerest sympathy goes out to you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6412.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"8u46o9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat was hit by a car last night she's in the vet's and I just want to know what his diagnosis means. Species: Cat  Age: 5  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered  Breed: none  Body weight: 1 kg approx  History: she was an orphan, thrown into a ditch at approx 6days old, we hand reared her. Her growth was stunted as she was runt of litter and in ditch for so long  Clinical signs: she was hit by a car at speed, her back leg is completely shattered and was passing blood from her rear. We got her to the emergency vet immediately, he said last night she'd probably need the leg amputated but it was wait and see. See was put on a drip and sedated. Today she was given an x-ray. Her hip is broken, her poor leg is shattered but they said the big concern is her bladder isn't filling. They are keeping her again tonight, and will xray again tomorrow to see if her bladder is filling.    Duration: around 24 hours   Your general location: Ireland  Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. I don't have them. I'm sorry.   I'm sorry for the silly questions, I'm just wondering what the chances of her surviving are. If her bladder is ruptured will she have to be put down? The vet said because she's so small this will be a huge concern. Why would her bladder stop working?  If her bladder is ok are her chances of recovering good?   I'm so sorry if this is against the rules or I'm doing this wrong. I really miss my kitten and I'm really worried about her.   Thank you for reading this.","c_root_id_A":"e1chj00","c_root_id_B":"e1d4igz","created_at_utc_A":1530052146,"created_at_utc_B":1530078391,"score_A":19,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"I'm really sorry that you're going through this \u2764\ufe0f The vets on the case would be able to beat answer these questions as they are familiar with the details. I'm sure they'd be more than willing to talk to you about it.","human_ref_B":">If her bladder is ruptured will she have to be put down?   Not necessarily, you can surgically repair ruptured bladders.  >The vet said because she's so small this will be a huge concern. Why would her bladder stop working?   The bladder is essentially a water balloon, so the impact of the car hitting her has a high chance of causing the bladder to rupture. If her bladder is damaged, then it can't fill properly and it means her urine is emptying out into the abdomen.  >If her bladder is ok are her chances of recovering good?   Should be ok.  First things first - her condition needs to be stabilised. There are various things that can be done while if her bladder has ruptured, including abdominocentesis to dilute and remove urine.  Her pelvis will likely also need to be repaired, and her leg amputated.  Your vet saying to wait and see is really all that can be done at this point in time - her condition needs to be properly evaluated and stabilised.   Just continue to stay in dialogue with them. It's a sucky situation to be in, hope for the best.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26245.0,"score_ratio":1.3684210526}
{"post_id":"8u46o9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat was hit by a car last night she's in the vet's and I just want to know what his diagnosis means. Species: Cat  Age: 5  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered  Breed: none  Body weight: 1 kg approx  History: she was an orphan, thrown into a ditch at approx 6days old, we hand reared her. Her growth was stunted as she was runt of litter and in ditch for so long  Clinical signs: she was hit by a car at speed, her back leg is completely shattered and was passing blood from her rear. We got her to the emergency vet immediately, he said last night she'd probably need the leg amputated but it was wait and see. See was put on a drip and sedated. Today she was given an x-ray. Her hip is broken, her poor leg is shattered but they said the big concern is her bladder isn't filling. They are keeping her again tonight, and will xray again tomorrow to see if her bladder is filling.    Duration: around 24 hours   Your general location: Ireland  Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. I don't have them. I'm sorry.   I'm sorry for the silly questions, I'm just wondering what the chances of her surviving are. If her bladder is ruptured will she have to be put down? The vet said because she's so small this will be a huge concern. Why would her bladder stop working?  If her bladder is ok are her chances of recovering good?   I'm so sorry if this is against the rules or I'm doing this wrong. I really miss my kitten and I'm really worried about her.   Thank you for reading this.","c_root_id_A":"e1d4igz","c_root_id_B":"e1ct5hq","created_at_utc_A":1530078391,"created_at_utc_B":1530064106,"score_A":26,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":">If her bladder is ruptured will she have to be put down?   Not necessarily, you can surgically repair ruptured bladders.  >The vet said because she's so small this will be a huge concern. Why would her bladder stop working?   The bladder is essentially a water balloon, so the impact of the car hitting her has a high chance of causing the bladder to rupture. If her bladder is damaged, then it can't fill properly and it means her urine is emptying out into the abdomen.  >If her bladder is ok are her chances of recovering good?   Should be ok.  First things first - her condition needs to be stabilised. There are various things that can be done while if her bladder has ruptured, including abdominocentesis to dilute and remove urine.  Her pelvis will likely also need to be repaired, and her leg amputated.  Your vet saying to wait and see is really all that can be done at this point in time - her condition needs to be properly evaluated and stabilised.   Just continue to stay in dialogue with them. It's a sucky situation to be in, hope for the best.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019ve no idea but I\u2019m hoping all the best for her!\ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14285.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"9kfxdh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"I (me, not my pet) have a common cold right now. Can I still take my pet to the vet or would they prefer me to keep my germs away? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I have a baby rabbit and am booked in to take her for her first set of jabs this evening but I have a rotten cold. I know human colds can't be transferred to rabbits but I imagine this is not the case for all animals? Should I stay away from the vets on account of my cold or is it OK to continue as planned?","c_root_id_A":"e6ysvpm","c_root_id_B":"e6z262x","created_at_utc_A":1538400648,"created_at_utc_B":1538409313,"score_A":11,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"I don't mind a sick client! Just let them know, wash your hands, cover your sneezes with a tissue, etc. :)","human_ref_B":"As a vet working 100+ hour weeks with on call, I\u2019d prefer not to get sick. If you think you\u2019ll be better in a couple days at least to a less contagious state then definitely rearrange. If you\u2019re already over the worst and it\u2019s just residual then come in straight away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8665.0,"score_ratio":1.9090909091}
{"post_id":"9kfxdh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"I (me, not my pet) have a common cold right now. Can I still take my pet to the vet or would they prefer me to keep my germs away? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I have a baby rabbit and am booked in to take her for her first set of jabs this evening but I have a rotten cold. I know human colds can't be transferred to rabbits but I imagine this is not the case for all animals? Should I stay away from the vets on account of my cold or is it OK to continue as planned?","c_root_id_A":"e6ysvpm","c_root_id_B":"e6z7hk2","created_at_utc_A":1538400648,"created_at_utc_B":1538413836,"score_A":11,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I don't mind a sick client! Just let them know, wash your hands, cover your sneezes with a tissue, etc. :)","human_ref_B":"While most diseases can't be given to other animals, they can be transmitted to any or all of the staff and the doctors. I prefer clients with colds and pets without pressing health issues to reschedule. Illnesses spread like wildfire throughout the clinic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13188.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2utxou","c_root_id_B":"i2unjfk","created_at_utc_A":1648739405,"created_at_utc_B":1648736842,"score_A":38,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"When was she last at the vet? When was her last blood tests and what tests did they include (thyroid testing for T4)?  I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope this abates soon!","human_ref_B":"I cannot comment any possible things as it will get blocked, but something you can do is try sleeping with a dim night light to help with disorientation.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2563.0,"score_ratio":3.4545454545}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2umorl","c_root_id_B":"i2utxou","created_at_utc_A":1648736491,"created_at_utc_B":1648739405,"score_A":6,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry. I hope your old lady isn't in pain. I don't have any advise other than to maybe get a second vets opinion. Just messaging to to hopefully send some positive vibes and encouragement. Peace and love.","human_ref_B":"When was she last at the vet? When was her last blood tests and what tests did they include (thyroid testing for T4)?  I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope this abates soon!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2914.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2vqwg4","c_root_id_B":"i2unjfk","created_at_utc_A":1648751984,"created_at_utc_B":1648736842,"score_A":17,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Assuming it\u2019s not due to some other problem that hasn\u2019t been detected, ask your vet for something just a bit stronger to help her sleep at night. There are very safe pharmaceutical options that can help with anxiety and pain and also act as a mild sedative","human_ref_B":"I cannot comment any possible things as it will get blocked, but something you can do is try sleeping with a dim night light to help with disorientation.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15142.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2vqwg4","c_root_id_B":"i2umorl","created_at_utc_A":1648751984,"created_at_utc_B":1648736491,"score_A":17,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Assuming it\u2019s not due to some other problem that hasn\u2019t been detected, ask your vet for something just a bit stronger to help her sleep at night. There are very safe pharmaceutical options that can help with anxiety and pain and also act as a mild sedative","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry. I hope your old lady isn't in pain. I don't have any advise other than to maybe get a second vets opinion. Just messaging to to hopefully send some positive vibes and encouragement. Peace and love.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15493.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2vqwg4","c_root_id_B":"i2uy1xc","created_at_utc_A":1648751984,"created_at_utc_B":1648741004,"score_A":17,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Assuming it\u2019s not due to some other problem that hasn\u2019t been detected, ask your vet for something just a bit stronger to help her sleep at night. There are very safe pharmaceutical options that can help with anxiety and pain and also act as a mild sedative","human_ref_B":"That could just be how she is lol. We have 3 cats and the 5 year old female will walk around occasionally and play with stuff or meow\/howl randomly for about 10-15 mins but usually she\u2019s satisfied after that. Our other 2 only really \u201ctalk\u201d when you\u2019re talking to them or playing. I know a friends cat who would do the same at night except it was when she was stealing socks and stuff she would howl with them in her mouth as she walked around the house \ud83d\ude02  I\u2019d just get comfortable earplugs if you can if everything is checking out fine otherwise with the kitty.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10980.0,"score_ratio":4.25}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2umorl","c_root_id_B":"i2unjfk","created_at_utc_A":1648736491,"created_at_utc_B":1648736842,"score_A":6,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry. I hope your old lady isn't in pain. I don't have any advise other than to maybe get a second vets opinion. Just messaging to to hopefully send some positive vibes and encouragement. Peace and love.","human_ref_B":"I cannot comment any possible things as it will get blocked, but something you can do is try sleeping with a dim night light to help with disorientation.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":351.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"tt06yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat keeps howling, for no reason. Tried compsure treats and pheromone collar(didn't work). I would follow her but she wants nothing. She howls extra loud at night, no real cause or trigger. My husband is going insane, and we need help. My cat is 15, she has pre-kidney disease and no teeth. Her vet says its because she is old and has kidney disease. She is otherwise very healthy. For the past few months she has been howling every night nonstop. We live in an apartment so neighbors will complain. We tried  -compsure treats - pheromone collar -spraying her with water  -following her to see what wrong -ignoring her  -putting her in a blanket or her carrier  None have helped. All her basic needs are met- food, water, litter and playtime.  But every night she howls. And last night was the worst, not even an hour in-between her howls, we couldn't sleep and we couldn't make her not howl. She only stops when we get out of bed and stare at\/follow her, she does nothing and wants nothing. So we would return to bed, only to her her howl in the next few minutes.   It's at the point where we are mentally and physically drained in the morning in time for work and school.   She is more calm during the day, but not by much. She usually stops howling when my husband gets up for work and then she sleeps next to me until I have to get up for my school. It's awful. We need sleep.","c_root_id_A":"i2w257u","c_root_id_B":"i2uy1xc","created_at_utc_A":1648756354,"created_at_utc_B":1648741004,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"You could ask your vet about anti anxiety meds like  gabapentin.","human_ref_B":"That could just be how she is lol. We have 3 cats and the 5 year old female will walk around occasionally and play with stuff or meow\/howl randomly for about 10-15 mins but usually she\u2019s satisfied after that. Our other 2 only really \u201ctalk\u201d when you\u2019re talking to them or playing. I know a friends cat who would do the same at night except it was when she was stealing socks and stuff she would howl with them in her mouth as she walked around the house \ud83d\ude02  I\u2019d just get comfortable earplugs if you can if everything is checking out fine otherwise with the kitty.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15350.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz6g9i7","c_root_id_B":"iz73e3l","created_at_utc_A":1670359500,"created_at_utc_B":1670368875,"score_A":55,"score_B":87,"human_ref_A":"Instead of scheduling a neurologist appointment you may need to go through emergency of a referral center and be transferred in to get in asap. Places like veterinary schools and tertiary care centers do this type of backdoor into ER situation. If he has another seizure, head straight to one of these places with records and cross fingers they transfer you to neuro. Otherwise call every neuro daily for cancellations. Toxin is lower on my list because of how long it's been going on. This sounds like a congenital problem he was born with but a neurologist is necessary at this point. On a sidenote, do not listen to a breeder about what meds to give or not give. Keppra is a safe anti-seizure med and much safer than having seizures. Unless they have a DVM they have no business dictating medical decisions.","human_ref_B":"While waiting for your neurology consult it would be beneficial to run a full panel of bloodwork (it isn\u2019t clear what exactly has been run aside from blood glucose?) and discussing an abdominal ultrasound with your vet.  If these things can be done before the neurology appointment that would be beneficial for the sake of diagnoses.   Also do not recommend taking the advice of the breeder in this scenario, they are not medical professionals and should not be regarded as such. A vet would not prescribe the medication if they thought it to be unsafe, and withholding it may be subjecting your pet to more seizures","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9375.0,"score_ratio":1.5818181818}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz76cfi","c_root_id_B":"iz7lpek","created_at_utc_A":1670370156,"created_at_utc_B":1670377095,"score_A":7,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Are you anywhere near a vet school? CSU is an 8 hour drive from me but the level of care I\u2019ve gotten there for my epileptic boerboel is head and shoulders above my local neurologist, and I\u2019ve gotten almost all of it free by going through a clinical trial.","human_ref_B":"As a breeder I would have asked for that puppy back and refunded you immediately so I could get to the bottom of what\u2019s causing the seizures. You shouldn\u2019t be having to deal with this in a 10 week old puppy. I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re going through this and just want to say do not listen to the breeder\u2019s medical advice, they\u2019re not a vet and shouldn\u2019t be telling you which medications to give and not give. The \u201ccleaning product\u201d theory sounds silly too.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6939.0,"score_ratio":6.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz877er","c_root_id_B":"iz7zm5n","created_at_utc_A":1670387488,"created_at_utc_B":1670383575,"score_A":31,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Did you discontinue Keppra or not? Breeders should not be giving any sort of medical advice, as a vet assistant I can't tell you how much crazy, wrong, sometimes dangerous advice I've heard people say came from breeders.","human_ref_B":"It's interesting that the breeder is saying the dog got into something to avoid being responsible. Poor dog. So many sub par breeders. Why not return for your money and find another dog?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3913.0,"score_ratio":1.55}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz877er","c_root_id_B":"iz76cfi","created_at_utc_A":1670387488,"created_at_utc_B":1670370156,"score_A":31,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Did you discontinue Keppra or not? Breeders should not be giving any sort of medical advice, as a vet assistant I can't tell you how much crazy, wrong, sometimes dangerous advice I've heard people say came from breeders.","human_ref_B":"Are you anywhere near a vet school? CSU is an 8 hour drive from me but the level of care I\u2019ve gotten there for my epileptic boerboel is head and shoulders above my local neurologist, and I\u2019ve gotten almost all of it free by going through a clinical trial.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17332.0,"score_ratio":4.4285714286}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz76cfi","c_root_id_B":"iz7zm5n","created_at_utc_A":1670370156,"created_at_utc_B":1670383575,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Are you anywhere near a vet school? CSU is an 8 hour drive from me but the level of care I\u2019ve gotten there for my epileptic boerboel is head and shoulders above my local neurologist, and I\u2019ve gotten almost all of it free by going through a clinical trial.","human_ref_B":"It's interesting that the breeder is saying the dog got into something to avoid being responsible. Poor dog. So many sub par breeders. Why not return for your money and find another dog?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13419.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz76cfi","c_root_id_B":"iz8fzkp","created_at_utc_A":1670370156,"created_at_utc_B":1670392829,"score_A":7,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Are you anywhere near a vet school? CSU is an 8 hour drive from me but the level of care I\u2019ve gotten there for my epileptic boerboel is head and shoulders above my local neurologist, and I\u2019ve gotten almost all of it free by going through a clinical trial.","human_ref_B":"First of all stop taking to the breeder about this. They are not veterinary professionals and have no idea what they are taking about. Do what the vet tells you med and all. Second\u2026did you see the neurologist? Did they talk about hydrocephalus at all?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22673.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz8q85g","c_root_id_B":"iz76cfi","created_at_utc_A":1670400677,"created_at_utc_B":1670370156,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Oh god please don\u2019t take advice from any breeders. They don\u2019t know sh*t, they aren\u2019t veterinarians .","human_ref_B":"Are you anywhere near a vet school? CSU is an 8 hour drive from me but the level of care I\u2019ve gotten there for my epileptic boerboel is head and shoulders above my local neurologist, and I\u2019ve gotten almost all of it free by going through a clinical trial.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30521.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zegtek","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"10 week old weimaraner having seizures. We had him <2weeks. Picked him Saturday, 11\/26. He was good all weekend. On Monday he was napping in my wife\u2019s office and had a seizure. He had more the next day, 3 before 1pm; seems be be after waking up. She took him immediately to the vet. Vet ran tests and recommended neurologist, scheduled but can\u2019t get in until 1\/5. Vet also gave Cepra, wife gave him 1\/2 a pill as recommended. Breeder states no history of seizures in bloodline and she advised against Cepra. Setup second opinion last Wednesday and this vet said he may have gotten into something. Both said blood sugar was normal but he eats a lot after seizure and I know in human blood sugar is usually fasted. We tried Kuro syrup. Second opinion cleared cranial nerves and meningitis. He gave us gabapentin to ease symptoms he he has another but he didn\u2019t think he would. He was seizure-free until today. We travelled Saturday for a long car ride and was fine. Sunday out a bit again fine. Yesterday went for a short walk and car ride, out awhile. He slept well in car and was tired when we got home. This morning seemed fine out twice for potty and then at 745am awoke with seizure. I was hoping low blood sugar and gave him honey and he ate more food.  We gave him gabapentin as vet recommended but 2 hours later 945am he had another seizure, both last less then 2 minutes. He eats and sleeps a bunch after. Was fine and playing then napped awoke at 220pm with another seizure, <1minute. Had put call through vet and neurologist this morning, waiting on return call. Called back after 3rd and told it could be 24-48 hours. We were told initially sounded like toxin but could only think of maybe walking in a parking lot edge last weekend and since seizure we carry him to grass to avoid anything. Breeder thought could be a cleaner at our house but house is only cleaned with Dawn dish soap and hadn\u2019t had any after last Tuesday. Now we\u2019re out of state in a cabin and leaving tonight in case we can get in earlier. I know you can\u2019t diagnosis online but has anyone go through anything like this? Likelihood he will \u201cgrow out of it?\u201d I was hoped it was low blood sugar or stress\/fatigue of being out. He just turned 10 weeks today.","c_root_id_A":"iz8q85g","c_root_id_B":"iz8hdfe","created_at_utc_A":1670400677,"created_at_utc_B":1670393783,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Oh god please don\u2019t take advice from any breeders. They don\u2019t know sh*t, they aren\u2019t veterinarians .","human_ref_B":"This is probably a serious longshot but is he definitely awake when this is happening? Puppies that young go through intense REM twitching that can often be mistaken for a seizure.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6894.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"u3yz5w","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Cat was prescribed 200 mg gabapentin due to her vet anxiety So my cat is 5 years old, very small, and 7 pounds. I adopted her from the shelter in October 2021 and she has been very small since. She is a very anxious cat and doesn\u2019t like being touched all the time, and rarely allows anyone to pick her up.   I brought her to the vet for a check up because she has a weird thing with drinking water constantly. They wanted to do blood work, but couldn\u2019t because she wasn\u2019t having it. So they rescheduled and gave me a drug called gabapentin, at 200 mg, to give her two hours prior to the appointment.   I gave it to her at noon today, and ever since then (and during the vet appointment), she\u2019s basically been completely sedated and has barely any coordination. It\u2019s so sad watching her try to walk around. I asked the vet \u201cis she supposed to be this sedated? She acted like it was fine.   I looked up regular doses of gabapentin in cats, and most websites said 50 mg to 100 mg. I\u2019m a little worried, as it\u2019s now 11:30 at night, and she\u2019s still pretty out of it.   Is she going to be okay, and was this too high of a dose considering the context?","c_root_id_A":"i4utqfw","c_root_id_B":"i4tzo1r","created_at_utc_A":1650043757,"created_at_utc_B":1650031333,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"She is okay! My 7lb baby takes 100mg the night before a very appointment and then 100mg an hour before the appointment. She walks crooked and seems super out of it for the rest of the day. She sleeps a lot too but the next day she is fine. It\u2019s a scary thing to witness the first time!","human_ref_B":"So how is she now?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12424.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isqu63h","c_root_id_B":"isqzthj","created_at_utc_A":1666054030,"created_at_utc_B":1666056711,"score_A":64,"score_B":104,"human_ref_A":"Seeing as the average life expectancy for an English bulldog is around 10 years, it would be reasonable to say he is old. Not a vet (assistant at a busy emergency\/specialty practice), but, yes, the X-rays look concerning.","human_ref_B":"those x-rays are extraordinarily concerning.  for reference, here and here are some relatively normal chest radiographs.  do you see how the lung fields are all black?  that indicates that they're full of air, which is good!  that's exactly how the lungs are supposed to be.  compare that with your dog's lungs, which are mostly gray and white, meaning that air exchange is not happening as it should be.  this could also account for all of the gas in his stomach. (in one view, you can see the circular shape just below his lungs that is black and patchy.) when a dog is having difficulty breathing, they'll pant harder and end up swallowing air.  his stomach is black on the x-ray because of all this air he swallowed while panting.    now take a look at the normal heart x-ray.  it's pretty distinctly heart shaped and in the center of the chest.  your dog's heart on the other hand, is very round, and takes up almost his entire chest.  there are a lot of different causes for heart disease, none of which i'll get into here, but visually, there is something very wrong with his heart.    based on his x-rays alone, his condition is very worrying, and i would get a second opinion (see if you can get a referral to a specialist) before Wednesday.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2681.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isqzthj","c_root_id_B":"isqyuws","created_at_utc_A":1666056711,"created_at_utc_B":1666056257,"score_A":104,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"those x-rays are extraordinarily concerning.  for reference, here and here are some relatively normal chest radiographs.  do you see how the lung fields are all black?  that indicates that they're full of air, which is good!  that's exactly how the lungs are supposed to be.  compare that with your dog's lungs, which are mostly gray and white, meaning that air exchange is not happening as it should be.  this could also account for all of the gas in his stomach. (in one view, you can see the circular shape just below his lungs that is black and patchy.) when a dog is having difficulty breathing, they'll pant harder and end up swallowing air.  his stomach is black on the x-ray because of all this air he swallowed while panting.    now take a look at the normal heart x-ray.  it's pretty distinctly heart shaped and in the center of the chest.  your dog's heart on the other hand, is very round, and takes up almost his entire chest.  there are a lot of different causes for heart disease, none of which i'll get into here, but visually, there is something very wrong with his heart.    based on his x-rays alone, his condition is very worrying, and i would get a second opinion (see if you can get a referral to a specialist) before Wednesday.","human_ref_B":"I know it's difficult to get vet appointments right now, but did you get an opinion from the regular vet or just speak to a receptionist about the availability of appointments?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":454.0,"score_ratio":13.0}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isqu63h","c_root_id_B":"isru7e4","created_at_utc_A":1666054030,"created_at_utc_B":1666074022,"score_A":64,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"Seeing as the average life expectancy for an English bulldog is around 10 years, it would be reasonable to say he is old. Not a vet (assistant at a busy emergency\/specialty practice), but, yes, the X-rays look concerning.","human_ref_B":"In regards to an enlarged heart, these aren't measured for size based on breed (IE \"anything over 3 inches is bad\").  Heart enlargement is measured based on body markers, such as whether the length and width of the heart extend past certain vertebrae.  So you could diagnose an enlarged heart from a radiograph without knowing the breed of animal in question.  It's heart-size to body size-ratio, not a straight measurement.  I would agree that the x-ray is extremely concerning, and an in elderly dog (of any breed), fluid around the heart and an enlarged heart size can indicate congestive heart failure.  I wouldn't wait for your regular vet to review this before taking action.    Maybe ask your non-normal vet about diuretic medication (to help rid the body of fluid build-up) in lieu of surgery until you can contact your regular vet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19992.0,"score_ratio":1.140625}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isr96vp","c_root_id_B":"isru7e4","created_at_utc_A":1666061195,"created_at_utc_B":1666074022,"score_A":32,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"I would recommend asking to have the radiographs read out by a radiologist and then having a discussion about options. The phone images cannot be interpreted and bulldog chests are notoriously difficult to read radiographically.","human_ref_B":"In regards to an enlarged heart, these aren't measured for size based on breed (IE \"anything over 3 inches is bad\").  Heart enlargement is measured based on body markers, such as whether the length and width of the heart extend past certain vertebrae.  So you could diagnose an enlarged heart from a radiograph without knowing the breed of animal in question.  It's heart-size to body size-ratio, not a straight measurement.  I would agree that the x-ray is extremely concerning, and an in elderly dog (of any breed), fluid around the heart and an enlarged heart size can indicate congestive heart failure.  I wouldn't wait for your regular vet to review this before taking action.    Maybe ask your non-normal vet about diuretic medication (to help rid the body of fluid build-up) in lieu of surgery until you can contact your regular vet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12827.0,"score_ratio":2.28125}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isrl7dk","c_root_id_B":"isru7e4","created_at_utc_A":1666067612,"created_at_utc_B":1666074022,"score_A":23,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"The x-rays are difficult to read, so getting it sent out to a radiologist would be ideal for more definitive answers but there is definitely concerning results.  It\u2019s never bad to get a second opinion though.  Normally in radiographs the lung field should be clear and black meaning the lungs are full of air. There\u2019s a lot of white seen in the lungs. Additionally, you shouldn\u2019t see the stomach\/intestines so clearly. Yes it\u2019s normal to see some amount of gas sometimes but the entire stomach and intestines should not be fully outlined and filled with gas like that.   The only thing I\u2019m iffy on is your doctor saying there\u2019s fluid around the heart. Possible, but this x-ray isn\u2019t entirely clear. You can always follow up with your regular vet, but if you have the money you may also want to look into seeing a specialist as far as the heart\/lungs are concerned.  Also very unsure about what surgery your doctor would suggest? X rays can give you differential diagnosis options as far as medication goes, but idk what surgery they would want to proceed with?  Furthermore, IF there is fluid as your doctor diagnosed that is typically treated with doing a -centesis (or tap) to remove fluid from whatever area. (Ex: removing fluid from abdomen is abdominocentesis). While centesis is a sterile procedure, especially if involving the heart, it\u2019s not considered surgery.  I would recommend following up with your doctor for better answers. Just let them know you\u2019re a little bit confused. And then you can also get a second opinion with your regular vet who has a more clear history of your pet.  I wish you luck with everything and hope they can help your baby :) \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"In regards to an enlarged heart, these aren't measured for size based on breed (IE \"anything over 3 inches is bad\").  Heart enlargement is measured based on body markers, such as whether the length and width of the heart extend past certain vertebrae.  So you could diagnose an enlarged heart from a radiograph without knowing the breed of animal in question.  It's heart-size to body size-ratio, not a straight measurement.  I would agree that the x-ray is extremely concerning, and an in elderly dog (of any breed), fluid around the heart and an enlarged heart size can indicate congestive heart failure.  I wouldn't wait for your regular vet to review this before taking action.    Maybe ask your non-normal vet about diuretic medication (to help rid the body of fluid build-up) in lieu of surgery until you can contact your regular vet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6410.0,"score_ratio":3.1739130435}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isru7e4","c_root_id_B":"isqyuws","created_at_utc_A":1666074022,"created_at_utc_B":1666056257,"score_A":73,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"In regards to an enlarged heart, these aren't measured for size based on breed (IE \"anything over 3 inches is bad\").  Heart enlargement is measured based on body markers, such as whether the length and width of the heart extend past certain vertebrae.  So you could diagnose an enlarged heart from a radiograph without knowing the breed of animal in question.  It's heart-size to body size-ratio, not a straight measurement.  I would agree that the x-ray is extremely concerning, and an in elderly dog (of any breed), fluid around the heart and an enlarged heart size can indicate congestive heart failure.  I wouldn't wait for your regular vet to review this before taking action.    Maybe ask your non-normal vet about diuretic medication (to help rid the body of fluid build-up) in lieu of surgery until you can contact your regular vet?","human_ref_B":"I know it's difficult to get vet appointments right now, but did you get an opinion from the regular vet or just speak to a receptionist about the availability of appointments?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17765.0,"score_ratio":9.125}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isr96vp","c_root_id_B":"isqyuws","created_at_utc_A":1666061195,"created_at_utc_B":1666056257,"score_A":32,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I would recommend asking to have the radiographs read out by a radiologist and then having a discussion about options. The phone images cannot be interpreted and bulldog chests are notoriously difficult to read radiographically.","human_ref_B":"I know it's difficult to get vet appointments right now, but did you get an opinion from the regular vet or just speak to a receptionist about the availability of appointments?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4938.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"y6r0q9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"vet said my dog is very sick?? - English bulldog Hi there, I'm looking for any advice a vet can offer   This afternoon, I took my English bulldog (M 10) to a new vet. He's been looking kinda mopey at times. I just had this feeling to get him looked at and get x-rays.  He has a cough that was noted before by my regular vet, but that could also be common in bulldogs.  Otherwise, he seems very healthy and happy. He goes for regular walks, plays and runs, & eats as much as he can always.  This afternoon I took him to the new vet for x-rays (cost related), and I was not left feeling confident at all with him. He came in, and the first thing he said is my dog is very sick. He showed me the x-rays and said he has fluid around his heart, & from what he pointed out I can't disagree. He said his heart is very large, but didn't give me a baseline of what would be normal; he also asked if my dog was a Frenchie when we walked in, so idk what standard he's comparing to when you can't even tell the difference between an adult Frenchie and English bulldog. The vet also said he has a lot of air in his abdomen. My boy has always had a lot of gas, another common trait of bulldogs, so not sure again how the x-ray compares to normal for his breed. lastly, he said my dog has bronchitis, consistent with the cough we've been keeping an eye on (no change to it in 2 months).  Treatment suggested was; medication for the bronchitis, and surgery to determine the cause of & reduce the fluid around the heart. I'm nervous if surgery as the risk is much higher for Bulldogs. Or, he said to just enjoy the time with him as he's already very old (10 yrs is THAT old? He still plays & acts like a puppy)  I immediately scheduled an appointment with my regular vet and for the x-rays to be sent to her, but she can't see us until next Wednesday. I'm hoping someone can look at them & lmk if I should be as concerned as the vet made it seem, and thus seek another opinion much sooner than Wednesday.  A second opinion on how the x-rays look would be really appreciated!!  x-ray pics here  Thank you in advance! I'm literally so uneasy and worried about my baby after that appointment.","c_root_id_A":"isrl7dk","c_root_id_B":"isqyuws","created_at_utc_A":1666067612,"created_at_utc_B":1666056257,"score_A":23,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"The x-rays are difficult to read, so getting it sent out to a radiologist would be ideal for more definitive answers but there is definitely concerning results.  It\u2019s never bad to get a second opinion though.  Normally in radiographs the lung field should be clear and black meaning the lungs are full of air. There\u2019s a lot of white seen in the lungs. Additionally, you shouldn\u2019t see the stomach\/intestines so clearly. Yes it\u2019s normal to see some amount of gas sometimes but the entire stomach and intestines should not be fully outlined and filled with gas like that.   The only thing I\u2019m iffy on is your doctor saying there\u2019s fluid around the heart. Possible, but this x-ray isn\u2019t entirely clear. You can always follow up with your regular vet, but if you have the money you may also want to look into seeing a specialist as far as the heart\/lungs are concerned.  Also very unsure about what surgery your doctor would suggest? X rays can give you differential diagnosis options as far as medication goes, but idk what surgery they would want to proceed with?  Furthermore, IF there is fluid as your doctor diagnosed that is typically treated with doing a -centesis (or tap) to remove fluid from whatever area. (Ex: removing fluid from abdomen is abdominocentesis). While centesis is a sterile procedure, especially if involving the heart, it\u2019s not considered surgery.  I would recommend following up with your doctor for better answers. Just let them know you\u2019re a little bit confused. And then you can also get a second opinion with your regular vet who has a more clear history of your pet.  I wish you luck with everything and hope they can help your baby :) \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I know it's difficult to get vet appointments right now, but did you get an opinion from the regular vet or just speak to a receptionist about the availability of appointments?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11355.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"t8x973","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Am I wrong for trying to syringe feed my cat with oral cancer? My poor buddy Monte is a 13 yr old Male shorthair, he has been fighting what I thought and hoped was a tooth\/gum infection for about 3 weeks now. He has been hiding alot, drooling constantly and batting at his mouth with his paws as if something is stuck in his mouth. I knew something was wrong and took him to the vet. They were unsure at the time what the issue actually was because there was alot of inflammation, they gave him a steroid shot and antibiotics in hope that the swelling and inflammation would go down so they could get a better idea of what is going on. I discovered while feeling his lower jaw later that week he had a bump that didnt feel right to me but I was hoping it was just swelling and would subside.  He had been eating and drinking as normal at this time and was acting pretty normally.  Fast forward to last thursday 3\/3\/22 he went back to the vet and was diagnosed with an aggressive and fast growing cancer in his jaw. When he got home from the vet that day he gobbled up the high protein Purina food the vet gave. The vet also gave me buprenorphine to try and see if it would help him give him relief at all. I gave it to him the night of his diagnosis, the next morning and night. At first it seemed like it helped him and gave him some rest and energy,  but now I'm unsure if it just made him feel worse.  Since then he has not drank or eaten much if at all in the past 2-3 days and I'm really scared for him. I haven't given him the buprenorphine again because I don't feel safe having him drugged up when he has no food in him. He is not interested in eating at all, in fact it almost seems to make him gag in disgust when he gives food a sniff. I've seen him take a few laps of water but he gives up on that in frustration quickly as well. I don't think he can use his tounge properly anymore.   I decided to try syringe feeding him some pureed food but he really hates the process and puts up a big fight. I could only get a couple tiny squirts in. I know he has to be hungry after such a long time without food. I also know how dangerous it is for a cat to not eat in days, it can cause liver failure rather quickly.  I know he doesn't have much longer left to live and I am just trying to give him a decent life until the end. I feel like a complete asshole for putting him through the stress of all of this. I feel helpless and that no matter what I'm doing it isnt the right thing and that I'm torturing him.   Am I wrong for trying to get some food and water into him with the syringe? Is it just time to let him go before he really gets violently sick from the lack of food\/water intake?","c_root_id_A":"hzquv1s","c_root_id_B":"hzred6m","created_at_utc_A":1646683674,"created_at_utc_B":1646691121,"score_A":13,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like it is time unfortunately. The pain isnt controlled with the pain medication, your kiddo is no longer eating. I would bring him in and have him humanely euthanized","human_ref_B":"This is really hard to hear but this isn't giving him a decent life to the end. He's in extreme pain and unable to eat and being stressed by being force fed. The best gift we can give them is to let them go when  they're suffering and there is no getting better. He will only get worse and be in increasing amounts of pain. The best thing you can do for him is let him go peacefully instead of withering away in pain. It's a terrible difficult decision to have to make but it's important to do what's best for him, not what's easier for you. Sending lots of hugs and support.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7447.0,"score_ratio":2.3076923077}
{"post_id":"yndsvm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What am I doing wrong? I cannot get the medicine into the cat. I posted a few weeks ago and I am embarrassed but it has been a difficult time trying to do this based on how my vet said I should do it. Yes, I\u2019ve been in touch with her.  I have a 3 y\/o extra spicy tortie. She gets aggressive when she is anxious. She also has allergies and really needs to take medication to help her. We have currently been using chlorphenirimine pills. I had suggested transdermal or liquid but my vet isn\u2019t a partial to compounded meds, particularly transdermal.  Guys, she is a bigger cat. She is long and lean with long legs. There is no tackling her to burrito her. She squirms and kicks her legs out in such a way that I\u2019m afraid I will hurt her. Last night a held her very stable and snug so my (17 y\/o) son could try to do the pill. Her head seems to be extra wiggly. The whole hold open the jaw and put it in seems to upset her more, and didn\u2019t work. We started to get worried that she was going to bite my son\u2019s hand- or my face because I had her snuggled up to my shoulder to keep her stable.    At the vet when they are working with her, it\u2019s always with a dose of gabapentin ton board and usually with a towel over her head and quick reflexes. It\u2019s not like I can cover her face with a towel to do it.     She is calm and happy with us usually,and goes back to normal after we try. Yes we have tried treats, hiding it in butter, putting it in food, etc.   What am I doing wrong? What is the magic to getting a pill into a very upset cat? I think we may be able to change to a liquid next week but I am not sure.","c_root_id_A":"iv8wgxh","c_root_id_B":"iv8vb7m","created_at_utc_A":1667709951,"created_at_utc_B":1667709245,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"1. Wrap cats body in thick towel tightly and hold the cat in place. (Best with two people, but one person can do it.)  2. Firmly grasp head of cat tilting it upward toward good lighting.  3. Grap the pill near the tip of your index and thumb so your thumb and index finger are pointed toward you palm, not pointed out.   4. Force your second nuckle of your index finger into the corner of the cats mouth until it begins to open.   5. Turn your hand so the tips of your index and thumb are  being forced inside the cats mouth.   6. Extend your index and thumb down toward the back of the cats throat.  7. It can be a bit too fast, but you want to push your fingers down their throat until you touch it. If you get lucky, something will remove the sticky mess of a pill from your finger.   8. Clean wounds with antiseptic.","human_ref_B":"Not a piece of advice, but more like a piece of additional information: chlorpheniramine tastes horrible.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":706.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yndsvm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What am I doing wrong? I cannot get the medicine into the cat. I posted a few weeks ago and I am embarrassed but it has been a difficult time trying to do this based on how my vet said I should do it. Yes, I\u2019ve been in touch with her.  I have a 3 y\/o extra spicy tortie. She gets aggressive when she is anxious. She also has allergies and really needs to take medication to help her. We have currently been using chlorphenirimine pills. I had suggested transdermal or liquid but my vet isn\u2019t a partial to compounded meds, particularly transdermal.  Guys, she is a bigger cat. She is long and lean with long legs. There is no tackling her to burrito her. She squirms and kicks her legs out in such a way that I\u2019m afraid I will hurt her. Last night a held her very stable and snug so my (17 y\/o) son could try to do the pill. Her head seems to be extra wiggly. The whole hold open the jaw and put it in seems to upset her more, and didn\u2019t work. We started to get worried that she was going to bite my son\u2019s hand- or my face because I had her snuggled up to my shoulder to keep her stable.    At the vet when they are working with her, it\u2019s always with a dose of gabapentin ton board and usually with a towel over her head and quick reflexes. It\u2019s not like I can cover her face with a towel to do it.     She is calm and happy with us usually,and goes back to normal after we try. Yes we have tried treats, hiding it in butter, putting it in food, etc.   What am I doing wrong? What is the magic to getting a pill into a very upset cat? I think we may be able to change to a liquid next week but I am not sure.","c_root_id_A":"iv8hzf7","c_root_id_B":"iv8wgxh","created_at_utc_A":1667702460,"created_at_utc_B":1667709951,"score_A":4,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Can you hide it\/crush it in food? You can see if she's interested in pill pocket treats, or my go to is the liquid Churu treats and put a big glob with the pill crushed up inside. Small meatballs of wet food with the pill inside, and that's the first thing you offer in the morning and she doesn't get breakfast till she eats it. Some cats will take it in a small amount of apple sauce, yogurt, or believe it or not, roll the pill around in butter and they'll sometimes eat it if you toss it in their empty food bowl.","human_ref_B":"1. Wrap cats body in thick towel tightly and hold the cat in place. (Best with two people, but one person can do it.)  2. Firmly grasp head of cat tilting it upward toward good lighting.  3. Grap the pill near the tip of your index and thumb so your thumb and index finger are pointed toward you palm, not pointed out.   4. Force your second nuckle of your index finger into the corner of the cats mouth until it begins to open.   5. Turn your hand so the tips of your index and thumb are  being forced inside the cats mouth.   6. Extend your index and thumb down toward the back of the cats throat.  7. It can be a bit too fast, but you want to push your fingers down their throat until you touch it. If you get lucky, something will remove the sticky mess of a pill from your finger.   8. Clean wounds with antiseptic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7491.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"yndsvm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What am I doing wrong? I cannot get the medicine into the cat. I posted a few weeks ago and I am embarrassed but it has been a difficult time trying to do this based on how my vet said I should do it. Yes, I\u2019ve been in touch with her.  I have a 3 y\/o extra spicy tortie. She gets aggressive when she is anxious. She also has allergies and really needs to take medication to help her. We have currently been using chlorphenirimine pills. I had suggested transdermal or liquid but my vet isn\u2019t a partial to compounded meds, particularly transdermal.  Guys, she is a bigger cat. She is long and lean with long legs. There is no tackling her to burrito her. She squirms and kicks her legs out in such a way that I\u2019m afraid I will hurt her. Last night a held her very stable and snug so my (17 y\/o) son could try to do the pill. Her head seems to be extra wiggly. The whole hold open the jaw and put it in seems to upset her more, and didn\u2019t work. We started to get worried that she was going to bite my son\u2019s hand- or my face because I had her snuggled up to my shoulder to keep her stable.    At the vet when they are working with her, it\u2019s always with a dose of gabapentin ton board and usually with a towel over her head and quick reflexes. It\u2019s not like I can cover her face with a towel to do it.     She is calm and happy with us usually,and goes back to normal after we try. Yes we have tried treats, hiding it in butter, putting it in food, etc.   What am I doing wrong? What is the magic to getting a pill into a very upset cat? I think we may be able to change to a liquid next week but I am not sure.","c_root_id_A":"iv8hzf7","c_root_id_B":"iv8vb7m","created_at_utc_A":1667702460,"created_at_utc_B":1667709245,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Can you hide it\/crush it in food? You can see if she's interested in pill pocket treats, or my go to is the liquid Churu treats and put a big glob with the pill crushed up inside. Small meatballs of wet food with the pill inside, and that's the first thing you offer in the morning and she doesn't get breakfast till she eats it. Some cats will take it in a small amount of apple sauce, yogurt, or believe it or not, roll the pill around in butter and they'll sometimes eat it if you toss it in their empty food bowl.","human_ref_B":"Not a piece of advice, but more like a piece of additional information: chlorpheniramine tastes horrible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6785.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yndsvm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What am I doing wrong? I cannot get the medicine into the cat. I posted a few weeks ago and I am embarrassed but it has been a difficult time trying to do this based on how my vet said I should do it. Yes, I\u2019ve been in touch with her.  I have a 3 y\/o extra spicy tortie. She gets aggressive when she is anxious. She also has allergies and really needs to take medication to help her. We have currently been using chlorphenirimine pills. I had suggested transdermal or liquid but my vet isn\u2019t a partial to compounded meds, particularly transdermal.  Guys, she is a bigger cat. She is long and lean with long legs. There is no tackling her to burrito her. She squirms and kicks her legs out in such a way that I\u2019m afraid I will hurt her. Last night a held her very stable and snug so my (17 y\/o) son could try to do the pill. Her head seems to be extra wiggly. The whole hold open the jaw and put it in seems to upset her more, and didn\u2019t work. We started to get worried that she was going to bite my son\u2019s hand- or my face because I had her snuggled up to my shoulder to keep her stable.    At the vet when they are working with her, it\u2019s always with a dose of gabapentin ton board and usually with a towel over her head and quick reflexes. It\u2019s not like I can cover her face with a towel to do it.     She is calm and happy with us usually,and goes back to normal after we try. Yes we have tried treats, hiding it in butter, putting it in food, etc.   What am I doing wrong? What is the magic to getting a pill into a very upset cat? I think we may be able to change to a liquid next week but I am not sure.","c_root_id_A":"iv8hzf7","c_root_id_B":"iv923yu","created_at_utc_A":1667702460,"created_at_utc_B":1667713701,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Can you hide it\/crush it in food? You can see if she's interested in pill pocket treats, or my go to is the liquid Churu treats and put a big glob with the pill crushed up inside. Small meatballs of wet food with the pill inside, and that's the first thing you offer in the morning and she doesn't get breakfast till she eats it. Some cats will take it in a small amount of apple sauce, yogurt, or believe it or not, roll the pill around in butter and they'll sometimes eat it if you toss it in their empty food bowl.","human_ref_B":"Get a cat pill popper. Start showing it to her by letting her lick tasty treats off it. Gradually do that while putting it further and further in her mouth. If possible, do this while holding her in a position that she likes, or would work for pilling her. This could take time (weeks) until she is comfortable. Eventually you could be able to hold her down, quickly put the popper in her mouth (loaded with pill), and boom! Medicated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11241.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ri4uoi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Am I feeding my cat wrong? Debate with new vet over wet vs dry. So I recently had to change vets because my previous one was really hard to get an appointment at.  I have been feeding my 2yr old cat a mostly wet food diet.  He gets 2 3oz cans of wet food and 1\/4 cup dry every day.  My old vet thought this was a great diet and my cat is at a 5 on the body scale.  However, my new vet really lectured me that cats should only get that much wet food a day if they have kidney issues and that dry food should be the staple of his diet.  She says wet food is bad for his teeth and will lead to obesity.  For what it\u2019s worth, he is a very active cat.  He runs on a cat wheel when he gets bored, and has to scale a giant cat tree to reach his dry food.      So, any additional opinions would be appreciated.  Here\u2019s my cat\u2019s info:  Species: Cat Age: 2 Sex\/Neuter status: neutered  Breed: DSH Body weight: 9lbs History: n\/a Clinical signs: n\/a Duration: n\/a Your general location: Nebraska","c_root_id_A":"hov68eb","c_root_id_B":"hov6ioq","created_at_utc_A":1639708739,"created_at_utc_B":1639708865,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I see know problem with how you are feeding. I prefer wet. As for dental disease, tooth brushing is a good idea, but that's true no matter what you feed.","human_ref_B":"You are absolutely correct. There is no reason why a cat needs a kibble based diet, and in general evidence and anecdote both suggest canned food is preferable. As has been mentioned, canned diets have a lower carbohydrate content (of dubious significance outside of diabetes, however may decrease the risk of development) more moisture which may be helpful to decrease subclinical dehydration predisposing to the development of CKD and urinar disease, and less  calories\/gram.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":126.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ri4uoi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Am I feeding my cat wrong? Debate with new vet over wet vs dry. So I recently had to change vets because my previous one was really hard to get an appointment at.  I have been feeding my 2yr old cat a mostly wet food diet.  He gets 2 3oz cans of wet food and 1\/4 cup dry every day.  My old vet thought this was a great diet and my cat is at a 5 on the body scale.  However, my new vet really lectured me that cats should only get that much wet food a day if they have kidney issues and that dry food should be the staple of his diet.  She says wet food is bad for his teeth and will lead to obesity.  For what it\u2019s worth, he is a very active cat.  He runs on a cat wheel when he gets bored, and has to scale a giant cat tree to reach his dry food.      So, any additional opinions would be appreciated.  Here\u2019s my cat\u2019s info:  Species: Cat Age: 2 Sex\/Neuter status: neutered  Breed: DSH Body weight: 9lbs History: n\/a Clinical signs: n\/a Duration: n\/a Your general location: Nebraska","c_root_id_A":"howybgv","c_root_id_B":"howt6p2","created_at_utc_A":1639747656,"created_at_utc_B":1639744969,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Cats barely chew regular kibble\u2026if you have ever stepped on cat vomit, you know this.","human_ref_B":"I 100% agree with your old vet. There is no evidence that regular kibble with help with periodontal disease. Being rather passionate about this particular issue, I would say find a new vet because she clearly knows nothing about cats. Wtf canned food will lead to obesity???!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2687.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"oefoeh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Cat came back after 5 days missing. She is limping, tail is floppy and just peed herself. Hey everybody, I have been having some issues with my cat. On the other day i posted o r\/felinebehavior to get some advice on how to keep my cat more indoors and happier with us. Well on that same day she didn't come back. She would usually go all day out, come to eat, but almost always sleeping at home. Well Thursday she didn't come back. We had been looking like crazy, sticking posters, asking people, damn even asking the stray cats. And just like that she came back, just like an hour ago. I'm so happy I could cry. BUT... she came limping, her tail down - unresponsive, she struggles to walk and jump. She came to my room, layed in my bed and after we noticed a small pee stain on it. She is eating and drinking water like crazy. We have a box outside, and she just got inside there, almost like hiding. Tomorrow we will take her to the vet, which is already super traumatic for her, I'm really scared. We don't know if all of this is just malnutrition\/trauma, or if someone really hurt her and that's why she was so scared and away for so long. Any help would be welcomed.   * **Species: Cat** * **Age: 1** * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Short hair european**  * **Body weight: 1kg** * **History:** * **Clinical signs: No strenght in legs, pees by herself, tail off, unresponsive.** * **Duration: Unknown.**  * **Your general location:**  * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**","c_root_id_A":"h47ikyv","c_root_id_B":"h47p7xv","created_at_utc_A":1625549977,"created_at_utc_B":1625555573,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"These signs are consistent with a trauma affecting the pelvis such as a pelvic fracture or tail pull injury, you should head to a vet ASAP","human_ref_B":"Did you take her? Update?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5596.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"py4khk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can I ask a vet to remove my dogs tooth, after he has passed, to turn into a necklace? I'm not sure if this type of question is allowed on here, so sorry in advance if it isn't!   I can't bear the thought of losing my husky, so I thought I should make something to remember him by.   I want something that will always keep him close to me, so I thought I would try to make a necklace out of one of his teeth. However I don't actually know if anyone is allowed to do this.    I'm pretty sure it is unethical to remove a tooth to make a necklace if the dog is still alive, but is it unethical to remove a dead dogs teeth?","c_root_id_A":"het94p6","c_root_id_B":"heswxxl","created_at_utc_A":1632975019,"created_at_utc_B":1632968499,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I work with euthanasia and hospice veterinary practices and I definitely understand wanting a keepsake that allows you to keep part of him close. <3 It is a common request we receive from clients. One option that you may want to look into are companies that can turn cremated remains into beautiful jewelry\/art - of course, this is only possible if you plan on cremation.  There are also companies that make pretty mementos from fur, or from the prints you can have made of his nose or paw; all of these options could theoretically be done before or after he passes, though many times it is done following euthanasia or natural death.   Regarding the teeth specifically, it is not a simple process to remove a dog's tooth, so it's unlikely a vet would be able to do that during a euthanasia appointment unless the tooth is \"rotten\" (dead and already loose), in which case you likely wouldn't want that one anyways. If your dog is going to have a routine dental cleaning procedure in the future and there happen to be extractions performed, it is possible that any tooth he needs removed may be able to be removed in one piece and then given to you; however, there are also no guarantees of that.   My 2 cents are that using fur, cremated remains (ashes), and\/or paw or nose prints is a less invasive and simpler way to keep part of him close to you forever. <3","human_ref_B":"I don't see how this is an ethical issue.    I would do it but would  charge for it. Obviously you wouldn't have to worry about anesthesia or taking your cat with it. But it still takes some time and you'll have to use some supplies to do it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6520.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e8620x2","c_root_id_B":"e867ees","created_at_utc_A":1540112920,"created_at_utc_B":1540123518,"score_A":18,"score_B":71,"human_ref_A":"You know what to do. The right thing is the hard thing most of the time, especially if you know the person somehow....  Tomorrow is the last day you'll have the opportunity to call the SPCA to your house and give the dog their undivided attention while the owner isn't present. They will know what to do and can walk you through everything, including how to handle potential responses from the owner.","human_ref_B":"If I was in this situation, I would offer to take the dog for grooming and just say \"I think I am going to take my dog in for a bath, do you want me to bring yours too?\" Only an asshole would say no. But maybe this person is an asshole. Take pictures, document, and make a report even if it's not enough to charge the person with neglect, maybe someone else will notice and make a report, and so on: a case can be created with multiple reports. But for me, my first instinct would be to take care of the dog's needs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10598.0,"score_ratio":3.9444444444}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e867ees","c_root_id_B":"e86255b","created_at_utc_A":1540123518,"created_at_utc_B":1540113192,"score_A":71,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"If I was in this situation, I would offer to take the dog for grooming and just say \"I think I am going to take my dog in for a bath, do you want me to bring yours too?\" Only an asshole would say no. But maybe this person is an asshole. Take pictures, document, and make a report even if it's not enough to charge the person with neglect, maybe someone else will notice and make a report, and so on: a case can be created with multiple reports. But for me, my first instinct would be to take care of the dog's needs.","human_ref_B":"(Disclaimer, not a Vet but ex-RSPCA worker) Take photos of all the things you describe, preferably with a newspaper of the date or something so that you can prove when the photos were taken.  If the owner hasn\u2019t told you of any medical conditions or anything and you truly are concerned, contact animal control or your local (R)SPCA.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10326.0,"score_ratio":3.7368421053}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e867ees","c_root_id_B":"e8622n8","created_at_utc_A":1540123518,"created_at_utc_B":1540113028,"score_A":71,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If I was in this situation, I would offer to take the dog for grooming and just say \"I think I am going to take my dog in for a bath, do you want me to bring yours too?\" Only an asshole would say no. But maybe this person is an asshole. Take pictures, document, and make a report even if it's not enough to charge the person with neglect, maybe someone else will notice and make a report, and so on: a case can be created with multiple reports. But for me, my first instinct would be to take care of the dog's needs.","human_ref_B":"You might not think its your place to involve yourself in their life, but if you have have a strong feeling that they are not taking proper care of it, I am sure there are better informed people on this sub who can tell you who to contact.  Id cut off my best friend if they kicked a stray cat as we walked out of  a bar drunk; much less choose a friendship or $20 over mistreating their family animal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10490.0,"score_ratio":23.6666666667}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e869nzj","c_root_id_B":"e86aucc","created_at_utc_A":1540126768,"created_at_utc_B":1540128252,"score_A":24,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Hey I just wanted to know, why is it bad that she feeds her once a day? I only feed mine once a day and he was perfectly fine at his 6 month and yearly check. I feed him the recommended amount for his weight plus  some extra for his high energy.","human_ref_B":"If they are paying you 20$ to watch their dog for a few hrs they are not knowingly neglecting him.  Try to groom him yourself or take him in to a groomer. Chances are he HATES it.  I had a shitzu-bichon mix ( lived till 16 had her from 8 weeks old) and omg she hated to be groomed to the point we did it twice a year only. Even 2 different groomers refused her as she would cry so loud that the police were called.  We had to be 4 family members to be able to hold her down. ( she was only 17lbs of terror)    But when not being groomed she was the best girl.  Ps the vet had her on high attack alert when we would see the vet.  And had to muzzle her.  She was trained did many tricks could walk off leash etc. But when it came time to anything else she was a terror. Thank god she was not a bigger dog than she was! ( god rest her soul)  So try not to judge but to discuss with the owner. Maybe they will let you groom him gladly!! Communication is always the key to everything. Don\u2019t jump to conclusions.  Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1484.0,"score_ratio":1.2083333333}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e8620x2","c_root_id_B":"e86aucc","created_at_utc_A":1540112920,"created_at_utc_B":1540128252,"score_A":18,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You know what to do. The right thing is the hard thing most of the time, especially if you know the person somehow....  Tomorrow is the last day you'll have the opportunity to call the SPCA to your house and give the dog their undivided attention while the owner isn't present. They will know what to do and can walk you through everything, including how to handle potential responses from the owner.","human_ref_B":"If they are paying you 20$ to watch their dog for a few hrs they are not knowingly neglecting him.  Try to groom him yourself or take him in to a groomer. Chances are he HATES it.  I had a shitzu-bichon mix ( lived till 16 had her from 8 weeks old) and omg she hated to be groomed to the point we did it twice a year only. Even 2 different groomers refused her as she would cry so loud that the police were called.  We had to be 4 family members to be able to hold her down. ( she was only 17lbs of terror)    But when not being groomed she was the best girl.  Ps the vet had her on high attack alert when we would see the vet.  And had to muzzle her.  She was trained did many tricks could walk off leash etc. But when it came time to anything else she was a terror. Thank god she was not a bigger dog than she was! ( god rest her soul)  So try not to judge but to discuss with the owner. Maybe they will let you groom him gladly!! Communication is always the key to everything. Don\u2019t jump to conclusions.  Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15332.0,"score_ratio":1.6111111111}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e86255b","c_root_id_B":"e86aucc","created_at_utc_A":1540113192,"created_at_utc_B":1540128252,"score_A":19,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"(Disclaimer, not a Vet but ex-RSPCA worker) Take photos of all the things you describe, preferably with a newspaper of the date or something so that you can prove when the photos were taken.  If the owner hasn\u2019t told you of any medical conditions or anything and you truly are concerned, contact animal control or your local (R)SPCA.","human_ref_B":"If they are paying you 20$ to watch their dog for a few hrs they are not knowingly neglecting him.  Try to groom him yourself or take him in to a groomer. Chances are he HATES it.  I had a shitzu-bichon mix ( lived till 16 had her from 8 weeks old) and omg she hated to be groomed to the point we did it twice a year only. Even 2 different groomers refused her as she would cry so loud that the police were called.  We had to be 4 family members to be able to hold her down. ( she was only 17lbs of terror)    But when not being groomed she was the best girl.  Ps the vet had her on high attack alert when we would see the vet.  And had to muzzle her.  She was trained did many tricks could walk off leash etc. But when it came time to anything else she was a terror. Thank god she was not a bigger dog than she was! ( god rest her soul)  So try not to judge but to discuss with the owner. Maybe they will let you groom him gladly!! Communication is always the key to everything. Don\u2019t jump to conclusions.  Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15060.0,"score_ratio":1.5263157895}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e8622n8","c_root_id_B":"e86aucc","created_at_utc_A":1540113028,"created_at_utc_B":1540128252,"score_A":3,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You might not think its your place to involve yourself in their life, but if you have have a strong feeling that they are not taking proper care of it, I am sure there are better informed people on this sub who can tell you who to contact.  Id cut off my best friend if they kicked a stray cat as we walked out of  a bar drunk; much less choose a friendship or $20 over mistreating their family animal.","human_ref_B":"If they are paying you 20$ to watch their dog for a few hrs they are not knowingly neglecting him.  Try to groom him yourself or take him in to a groomer. Chances are he HATES it.  I had a shitzu-bichon mix ( lived till 16 had her from 8 weeks old) and omg she hated to be groomed to the point we did it twice a year only. Even 2 different groomers refused her as she would cry so loud that the police were called.  We had to be 4 family members to be able to hold her down. ( she was only 17lbs of terror)    But when not being groomed she was the best girl.  Ps the vet had her on high attack alert when we would see the vet.  And had to muzzle her.  She was trained did many tricks could walk off leash etc. But when it came time to anything else she was a terror. Thank god she was not a bigger dog than she was! ( god rest her soul)  So try not to judge but to discuss with the owner. Maybe they will let you groom him gladly!! Communication is always the key to everything. Don\u2019t jump to conclusions.  Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15224.0,"score_ratio":9.6666666667}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e8620x2","c_root_id_B":"e869nzj","created_at_utc_A":1540112920,"created_at_utc_B":1540126768,"score_A":18,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"You know what to do. The right thing is the hard thing most of the time, especially if you know the person somehow....  Tomorrow is the last day you'll have the opportunity to call the SPCA to your house and give the dog their undivided attention while the owner isn't present. They will know what to do and can walk you through everything, including how to handle potential responses from the owner.","human_ref_B":"Hey I just wanted to know, why is it bad that she feeds her once a day? I only feed mine once a day and he was perfectly fine at his 6 month and yearly check. I feed him the recommended amount for his weight plus  some extra for his high energy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13848.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e86255b","c_root_id_B":"e869nzj","created_at_utc_A":1540113192,"created_at_utc_B":1540126768,"score_A":19,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"(Disclaimer, not a Vet but ex-RSPCA worker) Take photos of all the things you describe, preferably with a newspaper of the date or something so that you can prove when the photos were taken.  If the owner hasn\u2019t told you of any medical conditions or anything and you truly are concerned, contact animal control or your local (R)SPCA.","human_ref_B":"Hey I just wanted to know, why is it bad that she feeds her once a day? I only feed mine once a day and he was perfectly fine at his 6 month and yearly check. I feed him the recommended amount for his weight plus  some extra for his high energy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13576.0,"score_ratio":1.2631578947}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e869nzj","c_root_id_B":"e8622n8","created_at_utc_A":1540126768,"created_at_utc_B":1540113028,"score_A":24,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Hey I just wanted to know, why is it bad that she feeds her once a day? I only feed mine once a day and he was perfectly fine at his 6 month and yearly check. I feed him the recommended amount for his weight plus  some extra for his high energy.","human_ref_B":"You might not think its your place to involve yourself in their life, but if you have have a strong feeling that they are not taking proper care of it, I am sure there are better informed people on this sub who can tell you who to contact.  Id cut off my best friend if they kicked a stray cat as we walked out of  a bar drunk; much less choose a friendship or $20 over mistreating their family animal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13740.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e8620x2","c_root_id_B":"e86255b","created_at_utc_A":1540112920,"created_at_utc_B":1540113192,"score_A":18,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"You know what to do. The right thing is the hard thing most of the time, especially if you know the person somehow....  Tomorrow is the last day you'll have the opportunity to call the SPCA to your house and give the dog their undivided attention while the owner isn't present. They will know what to do and can walk you through everything, including how to handle potential responses from the owner.","human_ref_B":"(Disclaimer, not a Vet but ex-RSPCA worker) Take photos of all the things you describe, preferably with a newspaper of the date or something so that you can prove when the photos were taken.  If the owner hasn\u2019t told you of any medical conditions or anything and you truly are concerned, contact animal control or your local (R)SPCA.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":272.0,"score_ratio":1.0555555556}
{"post_id":"9q1ytz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"[ADVICE] I am dogsitting a Maltese that I think is being neglected and don't know what to do Hey guys, I'm the owner of a very happy mutt, and have been dogsitting a Maltese for the past week or two, on and off. Her owner drops her off around 4pm and picks her up around 11pm, and pays me $20. I think the Maltese is being terribly neglected, and I don't know what to do. Her hair is way too long to the point where she can barely see, he boots are visibly filthy, her nails looks like they may never have been cut, and in the spot where tear stains would appear, there are these black masses that have formed. They seem permanently matted to her hair, and I would have to cut them out to remove them. Also, her owner only feeds her once per day.  What the heck do I do here? It isn't really my place to do anything, and even if it were, I have no idea where I'd start. Tomorrow is the last day I will be watching this dog. Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"e86255b","c_root_id_B":"e8622n8","created_at_utc_A":1540113192,"created_at_utc_B":1540113028,"score_A":19,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"(Disclaimer, not a Vet but ex-RSPCA worker) Take photos of all the things you describe, preferably with a newspaper of the date or something so that you can prove when the photos were taken.  If the owner hasn\u2019t told you of any medical conditions or anything and you truly are concerned, contact animal control or your local (R)SPCA.","human_ref_B":"You might not think its your place to involve yourself in their life, but if you have have a strong feeling that they are not taking proper care of it, I am sure there are better informed people on this sub who can tell you who to contact.  Id cut off my best friend if they kicked a stray cat as we walked out of  a bar drunk; much less choose a friendship or $20 over mistreating their family animal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":164.0,"score_ratio":6.3333333333}
{"post_id":"vywp3d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Do I move my 15 year old aggressive cat across country with me, and if so how? Species:cat  Age:15  Sex\/Neuter status: neutered  Breed:maine coon mix  Body weight:19lbs  History: anxious, car sick, poops himself in a carrier  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location:Orlando   Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:   I have to move from Orlando to Denver.  I have 2 cats.  I am flying.  Southwest will only let me bring one cat in the cabin.  I can\u2019t find any airlines post Covid that have a direct cargo flight from MCO to DEN.   I am concerned my little boy won\u2019t make it through a cargo flight, and I don\u2019t know what to do.  He hisses and growls and he is very anxious at the vet and around strangers.  Not a biter, but ppl don\u2019t know that.   With his advanced age, do I put him through the stress of cross country travel?   How would I even do it?  If not, what other options do I have?  He is stiff and has difficulty jumping up on things and grooming himself, but otherwise he does not have major health issues.  My vet encourages me not to bring him in unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary for care because he gets too distressed there and starts to pant, which they said is very bad for cats.    Do I humanely put him down?  Do I surrender him to a shelter?  Do I pay $1500 to send him through a relocation service and hope he makes it?  Any ideas?","c_root_id_A":"ig7k28t","c_root_id_B":"ig6qojw","created_at_utc_A":1657849792,"created_at_utc_B":1657836622,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I saw your comment about the options your considering  but one thing to keep in mind is ask your vet about sedatives!! Even though he's old, if he doesn't have any major health problems, he may be okay with a sedative.","human_ref_B":"Southwest allows two animals in one carrier.  I\u2019ve done it. It\u2019s in their policy.  They just have to be the same species.  Two cats, no problem. Someone told you wrong","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13170.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ruvljm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog has licked the top of his paws raw and the vet get won't help me. For the last year my dog has been biting\/licking his paws but recently it has gotten much worse. He has taken all of the fur off of the top of his paws and they are starting to bleed. We've taken him to the vet several times and and all they do is give us a flyer about e-collars or tell us to try a chicken rice diet. I've tried cones and changing his diet but it doesn't seem to be doing much. With the cone he starts right back up the second it's off. He's a dalmatian so he requires a low purine diet which basically means it's very limited. We took him off rock food a while ago and it has mainly been chicken, rice and squash. At first I thought it might be a poultry allergy so we tried switching him to fish but it hasn't helped. He gets at least 1-2 hours of excersise a day. Anyone know what we can do?   Thanks for your help.","c_root_id_A":"hr2hrpk","c_root_id_B":"hr1ylvz","created_at_utc_A":1641215626,"created_at_utc_B":1641201851,"score_A":36,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"See another vet. In the meantime, put socks or booties on him.","human_ref_B":"If your regular GP isn't giving the dog any helpful solutions, you'll want to consider going to a veterinary dermatologist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13775.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ruvljm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog has licked the top of his paws raw and the vet get won't help me. For the last year my dog has been biting\/licking his paws but recently it has gotten much worse. He has taken all of the fur off of the top of his paws and they are starting to bleed. We've taken him to the vet several times and and all they do is give us a flyer about e-collars or tell us to try a chicken rice diet. I've tried cones and changing his diet but it doesn't seem to be doing much. With the cone he starts right back up the second it's off. He's a dalmatian so he requires a low purine diet which basically means it's very limited. We took him off rock food a while ago and it has mainly been chicken, rice and squash. At first I thought it might be a poultry allergy so we tried switching him to fish but it hasn't helped. He gets at least 1-2 hours of excersise a day. Anyone know what we can do?   Thanks for your help.","c_root_id_A":"hr2hrpk","c_root_id_B":"hr23gbd","created_at_utc_A":1641215626,"created_at_utc_B":1641205712,"score_A":36,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"See another vet. In the meantime, put socks or booties on him.","human_ref_B":"Get a 2nd opinion. Could be an issue you're going to have to maintain with the help of your vet.  https:\/\/veterinarypartner.vin.com  Try searching here for help","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9914.0,"score_ratio":2.1176470588}
{"post_id":"ruvljm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog has licked the top of his paws raw and the vet get won't help me. For the last year my dog has been biting\/licking his paws but recently it has gotten much worse. He has taken all of the fur off of the top of his paws and they are starting to bleed. We've taken him to the vet several times and and all they do is give us a flyer about e-collars or tell us to try a chicken rice diet. I've tried cones and changing his diet but it doesn't seem to be doing much. With the cone he starts right back up the second it's off. He's a dalmatian so he requires a low purine diet which basically means it's very limited. We took him off rock food a while ago and it has mainly been chicken, rice and squash. At first I thought it might be a poultry allergy so we tried switching him to fish but it hasn't helped. He gets at least 1-2 hours of excersise a day. Anyone know what we can do?   Thanks for your help.","c_root_id_A":"hr4t61s","c_root_id_B":"hr422ls","created_at_utc_A":1641249126,"created_at_utc_B":1641238751,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"first, if it's allergies, there are ways to determine the cause, if you're interested. there are three types of allergic reactions in dogs, basically (contact allergy, atopic disease and food allergy). contact allergy is pretty easy to rule out (grass fertilizers cause irritation on feet, belly, with appropriate history, for example). food allergy that expresses as a skin disease can be diagnosed using a special diet for 10-14 days (Hills z\/d; Royal Canin h\/p, for example), then, going forward, single protein challenges to determine which proteins are tolerated. Atopic disease can be anything from pollens to dust mites. there are two ways that (atopic) allergies are diagnosed : a blood test or skin test. both are pricey, both have advantages and disadvantages. finally, if you can do something to remove the suspect allergen(s) (say, by feeding a special diet, or moving to a different geographical location), that's the first step. after that, there are two primary methods of treatment : treat the symptoms and\/or desensitization. desensitization is pricey and takes months of regular injections. it is also not 100% effective. treating the symptoms can bring nearly 100% relief but is not a cure - it is managing symptoms. go to your vet and figure these things out. better would be a board certified dermatologist. Caution: know that there are very effective medications for dogs that are safe. Using steroids for allergies is outmoded and has been replaced by these newer, more efficient, safer alternatives.","human_ref_B":"All you can do is keep clean and dry so if dog won\u2019t leave wraps on you have to use a cone on his head","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10375.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ruvljm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog has licked the top of his paws raw and the vet get won't help me. For the last year my dog has been biting\/licking his paws but recently it has gotten much worse. He has taken all of the fur off of the top of his paws and they are starting to bleed. We've taken him to the vet several times and and all they do is give us a flyer about e-collars or tell us to try a chicken rice diet. I've tried cones and changing his diet but it doesn't seem to be doing much. With the cone he starts right back up the second it's off. He's a dalmatian so he requires a low purine diet which basically means it's very limited. We took him off rock food a while ago and it has mainly been chicken, rice and squash. At first I thought it might be a poultry allergy so we tried switching him to fish but it hasn't helped. He gets at least 1-2 hours of excersise a day. Anyone know what we can do?   Thanks for your help.","c_root_id_A":"hr4t61s","c_root_id_B":"hr4al1u","created_at_utc_A":1641249126,"created_at_utc_B":1641241948,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"first, if it's allergies, there are ways to determine the cause, if you're interested. there are three types of allergic reactions in dogs, basically (contact allergy, atopic disease and food allergy). contact allergy is pretty easy to rule out (grass fertilizers cause irritation on feet, belly, with appropriate history, for example). food allergy that expresses as a skin disease can be diagnosed using a special diet for 10-14 days (Hills z\/d; Royal Canin h\/p, for example), then, going forward, single protein challenges to determine which proteins are tolerated. Atopic disease can be anything from pollens to dust mites. there are two ways that (atopic) allergies are diagnosed : a blood test or skin test. both are pricey, both have advantages and disadvantages. finally, if you can do something to remove the suspect allergen(s) (say, by feeding a special diet, or moving to a different geographical location), that's the first step. after that, there are two primary methods of treatment : treat the symptoms and\/or desensitization. desensitization is pricey and takes months of regular injections. it is also not 100% effective. treating the symptoms can bring nearly 100% relief but is not a cure - it is managing symptoms. go to your vet and figure these things out. better would be a board certified dermatologist. Caution: know that there are very effective medications for dogs that are safe. Using steroids for allergies is outmoded and has been replaced by these newer, more efficient, safer alternatives.","human_ref_B":"See another vet and prepare your pocket book for diagnostics and treatments.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7178.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uhffmc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My cat has been dealing with ringworm on and off for her entire life, ranging from mild to severe, and my vet says she'll always be a 'permanent' carrier. Species\/Breed: Scot straight white cat  Age: 1.5 years  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered  Bodyweight: around 2 to 2.6 KG  History: Showed signs of ringworm since she was around a month or 2 old, has been dealing with it on and off ever since then. Her most severe case has healed (hair regrown and all) and only has a few little new spots that I treat using a combo of iodine + prescribed ointment. She also takes medicine for her immune system (Viusid), Biotin vitamins for hair and skin, and over-omega vit. She's the runt of her litter and smaller than her brothers and sisters, so she's always been a little weaker, but she's otherwise very healthy, active, eats and drinks normally, and seems unaffected by the ringworm save for the occasional itching.   What I'm wondering is if that's really how it's gonna be forever? The ringworm has spread to me and it's gotten annoying, I've been cleaning everything that I can, washing all my bedding and clothing. I live alone now, but when I lived with others, I kept her in my room and made sure it would never spread to others, obsessively washed my hands every time I touched her, the works. She's gotten tested but I cannot remember the specific type that she has, only that it's one of the rarest types and only affects around 20% of cats IIRC. I use Miconazole Nitrate to heal what keeps popping up on my skin, but will I ever be able to truly heal it if she's going to be forever a carrier and re-infecting everything I wash? My vet says so, and that I can't get another cat or dog without them getting infected too, even if I wait years. Do I have to worry about spreading it to my partner too? It's kind of making me go crazy here.  &#x200B;  Additional question but can be ignored if not relevant to the sub: am I able to swim in a pool with an active ringworm infection, or do I risk spreading it to other swimmers too? I can't find a clear answer on google, and since I had gotten it from my cat, I thought asking here may be best.","c_root_id_A":"i75rb5i","c_root_id_B":"i75tlzl","created_at_utc_A":1651585900,"created_at_utc_B":1651586890,"score_A":27,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"How has your cat been treated? Cats MUST being treated with a combination of both topical and systemic (oral) antifungal medication or they will never clear the infection. At the same time you must thoroughly clean the environment daily and dispose of any textiles your cat frequents (cat tree, scratcher, bed, etc.) to prevent reinfection from the environment.  If you have visible skin lesions you can infect a human partner.","human_ref_B":"If you have a vet university\/college nearby, you might consider dropping by. Sometimes they have more resources, and know how for extreme cases.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":990.0,"score_ratio":1.2962962963}
{"post_id":"e7ku23","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Dog sedation before euthanization Hello, yesterday we had to put our senior dog down after he suffered a stroke. Before being euthanized, he was given an injection of a sedative. Immediately after this, he began breathing very fast and heavily. Is this a known side effect of sedation? We expected sedation to calm breathing, it was difficult to see. Only after the euthanizing agent was given did he finally rest in peace","c_root_id_A":"fa1egl3","c_root_id_B":"fa1avnw","created_at_utc_A":1575768777,"created_at_utc_B":1575767453,"score_A":50,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, animals react differently to medications. It could have been that he was feeling different or funny. It's hard to say exactly without knowing what specific medication they used. An opioid, benzodiazepine, or dissociative could have been used, and they all have different side effects. For instance, a dissociative can cause an increase in sympathetic response where the heart rate increases, likely along with an increase in breathing, but their consciousness has completely gone somewhere else. They wouldn't be aware of what their body was doing, and it certainly wouldn't be a sign of distress.   Whatever the situation may be, your vet has likely performed hundreds if not thousands of euthanasias. They have developed a mixture of medications that they are comfortable with and produce the most desirable and consistent outcomes. They studied extensively to learn how the medications work and how to use them. Most importantly, your vet is dedicated to providing you and your pet the very best care. Unfortunately sometimes that also means releasing them from suffering, but they want to do that the best way they can as well.   I'm sorry that the time of your dogs' euthanasia was upsetting. Sometimes unexpected things happen, and perhaps your vet should have spent more time preparing you for the possibilities. But, I want to reassure you that your dog did not experience any distress. His last memory is of you telling him he was a good boy and how much you loved him.","human_ref_B":"There is an excitatory phase of anesthesia that drug protocols are often designed around in order to ensure passing them quickly. It is possible the sedative could have put him there if not a high enough dose (unsure since Idk what drug was used). And again, animals don\u2019t always go by the book.  I am sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1324.0,"score_ratio":6.25}
{"post_id":"d60sm1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog died suddenly of low potassium My 8 year old lab suddenly died last night after the vet fighting to keep his potassium levels normal.   12 hours before he was running around the garden.    He had several V&D twice in about 3 hours. Then took himself off to the garden to die.   Does anyone have experience with this and have any ideas as to what might have caused it.   The vet who tried to save him was grey but she couldn't really say what might work so quickly to mess with his potassium levels.   Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"f0po8c5","c_root_id_B":"f0p4ou9","created_at_utc_A":1568839612,"created_at_utc_B":1568827119,"score_A":35,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"The sudden death of pet is worst feeling in the world. So sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Was he eating regularly until the V\/D episodes? Usually potassium is well controlled in the body and only gets low if there is sudden loss and no replacement. The body does have a reserve but it can get depleted if no more is going in or the absorption from the gut is somehow not working.  Sorry for your loss :-(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12493.0,"score_ratio":1.4583333333}
{"post_id":"d60sm1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog died suddenly of low potassium My 8 year old lab suddenly died last night after the vet fighting to keep his potassium levels normal.   12 hours before he was running around the garden.    He had several V&D twice in about 3 hours. Then took himself off to the garden to die.   Does anyone have experience with this and have any ideas as to what might have caused it.   The vet who tried to save him was grey but she couldn't really say what might work so quickly to mess with his potassium levels.   Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"f0pgwmb","c_root_id_B":"f0po8c5","created_at_utc_A":1568834462,"created_at_utc_B":1568839612,"score_A":8,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss :(","human_ref_B":"The sudden death of pet is worst feeling in the world. So sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5150.0,"score_ratio":4.375}
{"post_id":"d60sm1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog died suddenly of low potassium My 8 year old lab suddenly died last night after the vet fighting to keep his potassium levels normal.   12 hours before he was running around the garden.    He had several V&D twice in about 3 hours. Then took himself off to the garden to die.   Does anyone have experience with this and have any ideas as to what might have caused it.   The vet who tried to save him was grey but she couldn't really say what might work so quickly to mess with his potassium levels.   Thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"f0pt8up","c_root_id_B":"f0pgwmb","created_at_utc_A":1568846853,"created_at_utc_B":1568834462,"score_A":22,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you should have your vet do a necropsy, especially if there are other pets living in your household as you would want to rule out anything that could also be dangerous for them.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m sorry for your loss :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12391.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7d6dqe","c_root_id_B":"i7dtdy1","created_at_utc_A":1651711118,"created_at_utc_B":1651721862,"score_A":59,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"Look into care credit, it\u2019s a credit card for medical purposes. You can call around to other clinics and get estimates. This is not something to wait on though, surgery should be done ASAP!","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m worried there was some kind of misunderstanding or miscommunication. A closed pyometra is absolutely urgent. The uterus is full of pus and closed to the outside world so there is no way for it to drain. The uterus can rupture or leak, leading to systemic illness and making the dog very, very sick.   Those prices sound quite high but I do not live in California. Call every vet in your area within a few mile radius and communicate that your dog has a closed pyometra and needs surgery and ask if they can give you a ballpark price range because you are financially limited. Try humane societies as well.   As others have said, look into Care Credit or scratch pay as well. I wish you and your dog good luck.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10744.0,"score_ratio":1.8644067797}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dtdy1","c_root_id_B":"i7daauy","created_at_utc_A":1651721862,"created_at_utc_B":1651712844,"score_A":110,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m worried there was some kind of misunderstanding or miscommunication. A closed pyometra is absolutely urgent. The uterus is full of pus and closed to the outside world so there is no way for it to drain. The uterus can rupture or leak, leading to systemic illness and making the dog very, very sick.   Those prices sound quite high but I do not live in California. Call every vet in your area within a few mile radius and communicate that your dog has a closed pyometra and needs surgery and ask if they can give you a ballpark price range because you are financially limited. Try humane societies as well.   As others have said, look into Care Credit or scratch pay as well. I wish you and your dog good luck.","human_ref_B":"I believe this subreddit has a resources page for help with medical bills.   Look into care credit, scratch pay, call your local humane society and see if they can offer help, call some local breed rescues and see if they can. But f none if this pans out, see if you can surrender her to an organization or the vet clinic. She will die if not spayed. It would be better to surrender her than to euthanize or have her get very sick and die. I\u2019m sorry you are dealing with this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9018.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dtdy1","c_root_id_B":"i7dati3","created_at_utc_A":1651721862,"created_at_utc_B":1651713073,"score_A":110,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m worried there was some kind of misunderstanding or miscommunication. A closed pyometra is absolutely urgent. The uterus is full of pus and closed to the outside world so there is no way for it to drain. The uterus can rupture or leak, leading to systemic illness and making the dog very, very sick.   Those prices sound quite high but I do not live in California. Call every vet in your area within a few mile radius and communicate that your dog has a closed pyometra and needs surgery and ask if they can give you a ballpark price range because you are financially limited. Try humane societies as well.   As others have said, look into Care Credit or scratch pay as well. I wish you and your dog good luck.","human_ref_B":"Check the FAQ, there is a topic on getting vet care when you can\u2019t afford it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8789.0,"score_ratio":8.4615384615}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dtdy1","c_root_id_B":"i7dpno5","created_at_utc_A":1651721862,"created_at_utc_B":1651719937,"score_A":110,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m worried there was some kind of misunderstanding or miscommunication. A closed pyometra is absolutely urgent. The uterus is full of pus and closed to the outside world so there is no way for it to drain. The uterus can rupture or leak, leading to systemic illness and making the dog very, very sick.   Those prices sound quite high but I do not live in California. Call every vet in your area within a few mile radius and communicate that your dog has a closed pyometra and needs surgery and ask if they can give you a ballpark price range because you are financially limited. Try humane societies as well.   As others have said, look into Care Credit or scratch pay as well. I wish you and your dog good luck.","human_ref_B":"The prices you\u2019re giving are outrageous, but for the area you\u2019re in it makes sense. Like everyone else has said, look into Care Credit. That\u2019s probably your best option. If there\u2019s nothing more you can do, euthanasia may be a better alternative than letting her suffer.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1925.0,"score_ratio":18.3333333333}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dnqvo","c_root_id_B":"i7dtdy1","created_at_utc_A":1651719014,"created_at_utc_B":1651721862,"score_A":6,"score_B":110,"human_ref_A":"Care Credit or ScratchPay","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m worried there was some kind of misunderstanding or miscommunication. A closed pyometra is absolutely urgent. The uterus is full of pus and closed to the outside world so there is no way for it to drain. The uterus can rupture or leak, leading to systemic illness and making the dog very, very sick.   Those prices sound quite high but I do not live in California. Call every vet in your area within a few mile radius and communicate that your dog has a closed pyometra and needs surgery and ask if they can give you a ballpark price range because you are financially limited. Try humane societies as well.   As others have said, look into Care Credit or scratch pay as well. I wish you and your dog good luck.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2848.0,"score_ratio":18.3333333333}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7d6dqe","c_root_id_B":"i7e941d","created_at_utc_A":1651711118,"created_at_utc_B":1651731794,"score_A":59,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"Look into care credit, it\u2019s a credit card for medical purposes. You can call around to other clinics and get estimates. This is not something to wait on though, surgery should be done ASAP!","human_ref_B":"I want to stress the fact that this is absolutely an emergency and could kill your dog in a matter of hours or days. Your dog WILL DIE without surgery, this is not a question of \u2018if\u2019 it is a question of \u2018when\u2019. She is already showing signs of illness by not eating and acting depressed. $6-9k is a bit high and you can try calling around to other clinics but in NorCal I would not be surprised if 4k is the lowest you find.  Spays are much cheaper and would have saved your dog this suffering and you the financial hardships.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20676.0,"score_ratio":1.406779661}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7e941d","c_root_id_B":"i7daauy","created_at_utc_A":1651731794,"created_at_utc_B":1651712844,"score_A":83,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"I want to stress the fact that this is absolutely an emergency and could kill your dog in a matter of hours or days. Your dog WILL DIE without surgery, this is not a question of \u2018if\u2019 it is a question of \u2018when\u2019. She is already showing signs of illness by not eating and acting depressed. $6-9k is a bit high and you can try calling around to other clinics but in NorCal I would not be surprised if 4k is the lowest you find.  Spays are much cheaper and would have saved your dog this suffering and you the financial hardships.","human_ref_B":"I believe this subreddit has a resources page for help with medical bills.   Look into care credit, scratch pay, call your local humane society and see if they can offer help, call some local breed rescues and see if they can. But f none if this pans out, see if you can surrender her to an organization or the vet clinic. She will die if not spayed. It would be better to surrender her than to euthanize or have her get very sick and die. I\u2019m sorry you are dealing with this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18950.0,"score_ratio":2.3714285714}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dati3","c_root_id_B":"i7e941d","created_at_utc_A":1651713073,"created_at_utc_B":1651731794,"score_A":13,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"Check the FAQ, there is a topic on getting vet care when you can\u2019t afford it.","human_ref_B":"I want to stress the fact that this is absolutely an emergency and could kill your dog in a matter of hours or days. Your dog WILL DIE without surgery, this is not a question of \u2018if\u2019 it is a question of \u2018when\u2019. She is already showing signs of illness by not eating and acting depressed. $6-9k is a bit high and you can try calling around to other clinics but in NorCal I would not be surprised if 4k is the lowest you find.  Spays are much cheaper and would have saved your dog this suffering and you the financial hardships.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18721.0,"score_ratio":6.3846153846}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7dpno5","c_root_id_B":"i7e941d","created_at_utc_A":1651719937,"created_at_utc_B":1651731794,"score_A":6,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"The prices you\u2019re giving are outrageous, but for the area you\u2019re in it makes sense. Like everyone else has said, look into Care Credit. That\u2019s probably your best option. If there\u2019s nothing more you can do, euthanasia may be a better alternative than letting her suffer.","human_ref_B":"I want to stress the fact that this is absolutely an emergency and could kill your dog in a matter of hours or days. Your dog WILL DIE without surgery, this is not a question of \u2018if\u2019 it is a question of \u2018when\u2019. She is already showing signs of illness by not eating and acting depressed. $6-9k is a bit high and you can try calling around to other clinics but in NorCal I would not be surprised if 4k is the lowest you find.  Spays are much cheaper and would have saved your dog this suffering and you the financial hardships.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11857.0,"score_ratio":13.8333333333}
{"post_id":"uikood","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Dog just got diagnosed with a closed Pyometra an hour ago My dog is a 4 year old golden retriever, she\u2019s not spayed and has had no prior issues at all. I took my dog to the vet today for a checkup since for the past week she hasn\u2019t really been eating much and has been more depressive. We go in and the vet says she seems pretty healthy but wants to do an ultrasound, she finds that she has a closed pyrometra. At the moment it\u2019s not an urgent issue but she wants to take care of it before it becomes one, the only issue is that the estimate the vet gave us was $6-9k, which is not doable at all for a full time college student. I live in Northern California and I called UC Davis community vet services and they charge ~$5000. I don\u2019t know what to do because I legitimately can\u2019t afford to pay this, nor can any family member either. I\u2019m wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to pay such an amount.","c_root_id_A":"i7e941d","c_root_id_B":"i7dnqvo","created_at_utc_A":1651731794,"created_at_utc_B":1651719014,"score_A":83,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I want to stress the fact that this is absolutely an emergency and could kill your dog in a matter of hours or days. Your dog WILL DIE without surgery, this is not a question of \u2018if\u2019 it is a question of \u2018when\u2019. She is already showing signs of illness by not eating and acting depressed. $6-9k is a bit high and you can try calling around to other clinics but in NorCal I would not be surprised if 4k is the lowest you find.  Spays are much cheaper and would have saved your dog this suffering and you the financial hardships.","human_ref_B":"Care Credit or ScratchPay","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12780.0,"score_ratio":13.8333333333}
{"post_id":"38yjw5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Urgent questions! This poor girl is rubbing her face raw at the pound. She is FIV+. I have 3 cats of my own plus 1 sick foster kitten currently. Would it be dangerous if I took her into a spare room to prevent her from harming herself further? Is feline leukemia that contagious? Please help. My heart is breaking for her. Any info is appreciated. http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/sah3G","c_root_id_A":"crz0zac","c_root_id_B":"cryx9s8","created_at_utc_A":1433730368,"created_at_utc_B":1433723433,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"They have vaccines for both FIV and FeLV.  With the FIV vaccine it can cause your cat to test positive because the test searches for antibodies against the virus not the virus itself, so I've always recommended microchipping any cat that has been vaccinated against it, since many shelters will euthanize cats they suspect are sick with the virus.  The vaccine is also not 100% effective just like any vaccine.  So there are ways of helping to protect your kitties.  Though the vaccines will take a couple months from the time of initial administration to when antibodies are present in great enough quantity to have your pet protected.    However both of these viruses are transmitted through bodily fluids, such as cat bites in FIV and in FeLV saliva and urination.  If you have a room where this kitty can live with her own dedicated food and water bowls and own dedicated litter box without being in contact with the other cats the chances of them contracting something from her becomes unlikely.  Make sure you wash your hands after handling her though.  Many pet owners have a hard time keeping up with that level of dedication however, it is not an easy task to let the cat stay that isolated.    I am a vet tech student working as a technician assistant and I always hear from owners who tell me after their cat has been diagnosed that their cat loves the other cats in the household and it is hard to keep them apart.  Just realize that if they do fight or groom or share food and water or the litterbox you could potentially be putting your other cats at risk.","human_ref_B":"Is she FIV+ or FeLV+ (or both)? FIV is feline immunodeficiency virus and FeLV is feline leukemia virus.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6935.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"y7o5ev","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?","c_root_id_A":"isxhuis","c_root_id_B":"isxg3sd","created_at_utc_A":1666183758,"created_at_utc_B":1666182859,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Yes, you did the right thing. She knew it was time to go, and she left. She left a sick body to be a free soul. You did everything you could. Now is your time to grieve \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"You didn't do anything wrong. We always tend to second guess ourselves in situations like this. But the way I see it she died in her home. With you. And she went peacefully in her sleep on your bed so she will have been very content, happy and at ease to pass peacefully.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":899.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"2hgxvr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Why does it seem necessary to vaccinate a dog every year? Humans are vaccinated only once for so many things, why is it different with dogs?","c_root_id_A":"cksk6ja","c_root_id_B":"cksk3da","created_at_utc_A":1411682835,"created_at_utc_B":1411682653,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Hey! I'm a vet student (who should be studying right now, so I can't stay long). If this would be of use to you, it's AAHA's current vaccination recommendations. https:\/\/www.aahanet.org\/PublicDocuments\/CanineVaccineGuidelines.pdf   Essentially, the recommendations for frequency of vaccinations are based on a combination of immunology and tradition. There is inherent variation in how individual dogs and cats respond to various vaccines, and while many can be protective beyond the single year setting, it is my understanding that the protocols exist as they are to try and prevent all animals' antibody levels from falling below protective titers. The risk of an adverse vaccine reaction is so low that I think it is the consensus that administering them with a bit higher frequency is better than the opposite scenario.  As to far as why the differences between dogs and humans exists, I'm not sure about that. Maybe it's because our canine friends tend to be more challenged by disease than we are? That, however, is a total conjecture.  Hope this helped!","human_ref_B":"Dogs age more quickly than humans do.  Edit: Well, it's an unpleasant realization for some, I guess.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":182.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"uv53v3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My 4 year old staffy appears to be constipated but I can see a hard poop in his anus when he is trying to squeeze it out. He\u2019s trembling and shaking and hiding in his house every time he tries to go. Dog is constipated. Has been trying to poop for almost 4 hours. When he tries I can see a hard poop ready to come out in there but I think it\u2019s stuck. He\u2019s shaking and can tell he is in pain. He\u2019s also not eating and is being distant. What can I do to help? I can only get to a vet tomorrow morning as it is Sunday and they\u2019re all close.","c_root_id_A":"i9juv7a","c_root_id_B":"i9jbg99","created_at_utc_A":1653217908,"created_at_utc_B":1653200672,"score_A":81,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"There should be an emergency vet in your area that\u2019s open Sundays! Try giving them a call and explain what\u2019s happening. They\u2019ll either tell you what to do or let you know if he needs to be brought in","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17236.0,"score_ratio":40.5}
{"post_id":"uv53v3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My 4 year old staffy appears to be constipated but I can see a hard poop in his anus when he is trying to squeeze it out. He\u2019s trembling and shaking and hiding in his house every time he tries to go. Dog is constipated. Has been trying to poop for almost 4 hours. When he tries I can see a hard poop ready to come out in there but I think it\u2019s stuck. He\u2019s shaking and can tell he is in pain. He\u2019s also not eating and is being distant. What can I do to help? I can only get to a vet tomorrow morning as it is Sunday and they\u2019re all close.","c_root_id_A":"i9kb1nk","c_root_id_B":"i9k3179","created_at_utc_A":1653227927,"created_at_utc_B":1653223593,"score_A":13,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Constipation can become very serious so your dog needs a vet. In the mean time, ensure he's hydrated well, and consider giving him a little vegetable oil to help move things along a bit.","human_ref_B":"Where in general are you located? This dog needs an ER.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4334.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"uv53v3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My 4 year old staffy appears to be constipated but I can see a hard poop in his anus when he is trying to squeeze it out. He\u2019s trembling and shaking and hiding in his house every time he tries to go. Dog is constipated. Has been trying to poop for almost 4 hours. When he tries I can see a hard poop ready to come out in there but I think it\u2019s stuck. He\u2019s shaking and can tell he is in pain. He\u2019s also not eating and is being distant. What can I do to help? I can only get to a vet tomorrow morning as it is Sunday and they\u2019re all close.","c_root_id_A":"i9jbg99","c_root_id_B":"i9kb1nk","created_at_utc_A":1653200672,"created_at_utc_B":1653227927,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Constipation can become very serious so your dog needs a vet. In the mean time, ensure he's hydrated well, and consider giving him a little vegetable oil to help move things along a bit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27255.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"uv53v3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My 4 year old staffy appears to be constipated but I can see a hard poop in his anus when he is trying to squeeze it out. He\u2019s trembling and shaking and hiding in his house every time he tries to go. Dog is constipated. Has been trying to poop for almost 4 hours. When he tries I can see a hard poop ready to come out in there but I think it\u2019s stuck. He\u2019s shaking and can tell he is in pain. He\u2019s also not eating and is being distant. What can I do to help? I can only get to a vet tomorrow morning as it is Sunday and they\u2019re all close.","c_root_id_A":"i9jbg99","c_root_id_B":"i9k3179","created_at_utc_A":1653200672,"created_at_utc_B":1653223593,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Where in general are you located? This dog needs an ER.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22921.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"knkicp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"We decided to euthanize our amazing cat after a series of mishaps at an emergency clinic. Incompetence or bad luck? \\*Neutered - 16 lbs. - no previous health problems - USA  So my 1 \u00bd year-old male tabby started having issues peeing. This is a common problem, but it can quickly become fatal if left untreated.  He started showing some pretty serious discomfort late night on Christmas, crouching like he was peeing, returning to the litter box frequently, licking his groin area aggressively, so we had to take him to an emergency clinic (in retrospect, I later recalled noticing him peeing a LOT one occasion a week earlier, but I foolishly shrugged it off as a fluke. Lesson learned).  The doctor said his urethra was obstructed and wanted to catheterize him for a few days and observe him for 48-72 hours to make sure he cleared up, after which we\u2019d start using a water fountain, some medication for a few days, and a special diet.  Since the treatment would have cost over $3000, we opted for a cheaper treatment where they would do the same thing but for just an hour, after which we took him home. It was a gamble that did not pay off because just 24 hours later he was showing discomfort again. And once again, this happened late at night, so we had to return to the same expensive clinic, this time opting for the full, $3000, 48-72 hour treatment and observation.  They called the next morning to inform me that the tip of the catheter had broken off and settled inside his bladder, which would require a surgery to remove it. Thankfully, they decided that they would refund the $3000 and also cover any and all treatment they do from that point on. The bladder surgery was done successfully.  However, the next day, while trying to re-catheterize him for the original treatment, they punctured the lining of his urethra, causing further complications and risk. So hours later, they decided to try once again, this time with a softer catheter. It worked at first, but within hours, my kitty had managed to remove it himself.  At this point, they gave me three options: 1) continue the treatment even though the inflammation and damage done to the area made it extremely difficult to catheterize him again; and even though the prospects of a successful outcome were very low. This option would probably require at least 5-7 days of hospitalization (all free of charge, but bordering on torture to the cat); 2) discharge him and take him to an extremely high-dollar specialist, again with low chance of a good outcome; 3) euthanize him.  It was hard to say goodbye to such a vibrant, loving cat that had made his way into the center of our hearts (maybe one of those once-in-a-lifetime kind of pets), but we decided it was the right thing to do. We went to visit him before the procedure, and other than some uncomfortable peeing, was vibrant, loving, and fully himself. He was the kindest, most affectionate cat I\u2019ve ever met.  I guess I just have some questions. If you can provide some insight into one, some, or all, it would be greatly appreciated:  1. Is this gross incompetence, or just a horrible string of luck? Because the clinic was so generous, transparent, and communicative, my instincts tell me this was all just bad luck, but another part of me wonders if I should be angry.   2. Did I make the right decision by agreeing to have him euthanized?   3. They said it was so unfortunate and unusual to have so many complications for procedures they do literally every day. Is it true that he might have been \u201canatomically unique,\u201d as they mentioned once? I actually find this believable, but I just wanted to hear others\u2019 opinions. 4. Should I have taken him to another place at any point in the process?","c_root_id_A":"ghlda1o","c_root_id_B":"ghlenan","created_at_utc_A":1609407813,"created_at_utc_B":1609409273,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but worked as a veterinary nurse. Firstly I'm sorry for your loss.  As far as whether there is someone at 'fault', there are unfortunately risks associated with all procedures without having been present at the clinic its difficult to say whether its just a case of terrible luck or whether there was human error. It sounds like the clinic were fairly open in their communication with you while your boy was in care, if it would help you could contact them to find out whether they would be willing to have a discussion with you about the issues your boy experienced, it may be helpful to give you some sense of closure.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to hear about this really unfortunate situation. It is also always especially tough over the holidays.   1. From what you describe it does sounds like bad luck. Without being there it is very hard to know exact details but I've heard complications arise like this even though unblocking cats is a common procedure for emergency clinics.  Blocked cats are a tough situation. Even if the treatment worked, it is basically not 'if' it will happen again but a 'when' it will happen again as occurrence is very common and many times it becomes a financial decision to have to euthanize, and that is for uncomplicated cases. Unfortunately young otherwise healthy male cats (especially indoor cats are predisposed). As well your cat at 16 lbs is likely overweight which also predisposes to blockage and would make salvage surgeries potentially more difficult. 2. See above.  3. Yes it is possible. I have seen healthy animals with abnormal diverticula (pockets) in the urinary system. As well if he had scaring from previous events which maybe went under the radar it can certainly cause stricture or other anatomic abnormalities.  4. Switching clinics is possible. From the description I don't think it would have made a whole lot of difference and would have added a lot of additional expense. If you were uncomfortable with the decisions at the time a consult with your regular GP veterinarian would maybe have been comforting to you and they may have had some cheaper alternatives but without 24 hour care the risks would be increased potentially and he was not a straight forward case.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1460.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"vyde3n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.69,"history":"I think my dog is slowly dying My dog wont eat anymore and doesnt want to drink water and just sits there, what do I do?  Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: Dog * Age: 5 * Sex\/Neuter status: Female * Breed: German Shepherd  * Body weight: super skinny * History: none * Clinical signs: n\/a * Duration: 1 month * Your general location: US * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","c_root_id_A":"ig2px6b","c_root_id_B":"ig3l91q","created_at_utc_A":1657764567,"created_at_utc_B":1657783052,"score_A":3,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Vet visit. Make sure to take note of how long ago this started and any other signs\/symptoms to help your vet and your pup","human_ref_B":"The subreddit for those of us who have lost pets is r\/petloss","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18485.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"aq089l","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Hello, A stray dog found a skull in my area and I was wondering if you guys could help me figure out what animal it belonged to. I live in southwest Oklahoma. https:\/\/m.imgur.com\/a\/qrVJf7M Here are the pictures.","c_root_id_A":"egchmqv","c_root_id_B":"egch7cf","created_at_utc_A":1550017442,"created_at_utc_B":1550017093,"score_A":38,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Looks like a type of boar\/pig\/hog","human_ref_B":"Looks kind of piggy to me","labels":1,"seconds_difference":349.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"toog83","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.74,"history":"Dog was overdosed? - Need an answer She went in for an Op, stopped breathing and had a seizure. She's 23kg, they had her weight as 27kg.  She was given:  Senator Injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.23  Comfortan injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.69  Alfaxan Multidise injection 20ml (per ml)  qty 4.6  Antipam Injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.23  Ziapam Injection 2ml (6) (per vial broached) qty 1.0  Naloxone Injection 400mcg\/1ml (10) (per vial broached) qty 2.0  Diazepam Rectal tube 10mg (5) (per tube) 2.0   I know the narcan and diazepam are for the seizure and to reverse the methadone.  I need - NEED to know if she was overdosed because she needs an operation, if she was overdosed she can go to another vet to have the surgery. If not then she won't have it done.","c_root_id_A":"i286hwq","c_root_id_B":"i26xgmc","created_at_utc_A":1648322698,"created_at_utc_B":1648302798,"score_A":45,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"I think part of the issue is that you ar emaking this into more of a black and white issue than it is. \"Overdose\" is a relative situation. Yes, those doses seem appropriate- for a healthy dog. For a dog with liver failure, kidney disease, a history of epilepsy, etc, some or all of them may be inappropriate. Other factors also come into play- for example, some drugs are dosed on actual weight, and others on lean weight, etc.   Overall, I don't think its as simple as \"if she wasn't overdosed she can't have the operation\". That depends on why she had the seizure, and why she needed the surgery. If this is a life saving surgery (ie without it she will die or have a drastically shortened lifespan) than I think I am more willing to go to surgery than if it is to remove a cosmetic mass.  The other question is why she had a seizure? Was her blood glucose too low? Her calcium too low? Did she have a clot from a hypercoagulable state? Does she have underlying brain disease? There is almost never a situation where an animal cannot have anesthesia performed, its all a risk benefit question.  Keep in mind that this was also ONE anesthetic protocol. There are hundreds of other drug combinations available, and even if this is a healthy dog with no underlying issues that just reacted to one of these drugs, its trivial to come up with a plan that avoids these classes entirely.","human_ref_B":"This is something you should have a chat to your vet about. These medications do not tend to cause seizures, and others can be used as part of emergency management of seizures.  However, my suspicion from those doses is that they look very standard for a 23kg dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19900.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"toog83","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.74,"history":"Dog was overdosed? - Need an answer She went in for an Op, stopped breathing and had a seizure. She's 23kg, they had her weight as 27kg.  She was given:  Senator Injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.23  Comfortan injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.69  Alfaxan Multidise injection 20ml (per ml)  qty 4.6  Antipam Injection 10ml (per ml) qty 0.23  Ziapam Injection 2ml (6) (per vial broached) qty 1.0  Naloxone Injection 400mcg\/1ml (10) (per vial broached) qty 2.0  Diazepam Rectal tube 10mg (5) (per tube) 2.0   I know the narcan and diazepam are for the seizure and to reverse the methadone.  I need - NEED to know if she was overdosed because she needs an operation, if she was overdosed she can go to another vet to have the surgery. If not then she won't have it done.","c_root_id_A":"i275upn","c_root_id_B":"i286hwq","created_at_utc_A":1648306735,"created_at_utc_B":1648322698,"score_A":10,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Yeah those doses do look as though they were measured out for a 23kg dog, the 0.23 doses are likely .1g per kg etc","human_ref_B":"I think part of the issue is that you ar emaking this into more of a black and white issue than it is. \"Overdose\" is a relative situation. Yes, those doses seem appropriate- for a healthy dog. For a dog with liver failure, kidney disease, a history of epilepsy, etc, some or all of them may be inappropriate. Other factors also come into play- for example, some drugs are dosed on actual weight, and others on lean weight, etc.   Overall, I don't think its as simple as \"if she wasn't overdosed she can't have the operation\". That depends on why she had the seizure, and why she needed the surgery. If this is a life saving surgery (ie without it she will die or have a drastically shortened lifespan) than I think I am more willing to go to surgery than if it is to remove a cosmetic mass.  The other question is why she had a seizure? Was her blood glucose too low? Her calcium too low? Did she have a clot from a hypercoagulable state? Does she have underlying brain disease? There is almost never a situation where an animal cannot have anesthesia performed, its all a risk benefit question.  Keep in mind that this was also ONE anesthetic protocol. There are hundreds of other drug combinations available, and even if this is a healthy dog with no underlying issues that just reacted to one of these drugs, its trivial to come up with a plan that avoids these classes entirely.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15963.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io3a6of","c_root_id_B":"io2r1z3","created_at_utc_A":1662961792,"created_at_utc_B":1662950533,"score_A":45,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"The only thing we can do it tell you to go to a vet. There is no way for us to know what is actually wrong with your cat without a physical and lab work, etc.","human_ref_B":"Is there perhaps a nearby town with a vet? This sounds too serious to treat successfully at home.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11259.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io2zh8p","c_root_id_B":"io3a6of","created_at_utc_A":1662954887,"created_at_utc_B":1662961792,"score_A":2,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Go to the vet, it could be a ton of things","human_ref_B":"The only thing we can do it tell you to go to a vet. There is no way for us to know what is actually wrong with your cat without a physical and lab work, etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6905.0,"score_ratio":22.5}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io3v5tu","c_root_id_B":"io2r1z3","created_at_utc_A":1662979415,"created_at_utc_B":1662950533,"score_A":14,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry but the best help we can give is they need to be seen by a vet. No home remedies can help.","human_ref_B":"Is there perhaps a nearby town with a vet? This sounds too serious to treat successfully at home.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28882.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io3v5tu","c_root_id_B":"io2zh8p","created_at_utc_A":1662979415,"created_at_utc_B":1662954887,"score_A":14,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry but the best help we can give is they need to be seen by a vet. No home remedies can help.","human_ref_B":"Go to the vet, it could be a ton of things","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24528.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io5c0ku","c_root_id_B":"io2zh8p","created_at_utc_A":1663003939,"created_at_utc_B":1662954887,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Just don\u2019t lose hope! Keep the cat comfortable and well fed. It\u2019s all you can do. I understand your plight. It\u2019s so hard. Living in a country where healthcare or vet care aren\u2019t available.","human_ref_B":"Go to the vet, it could be a ton of things","labels":1,"seconds_difference":49052.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io2zh8p","c_root_id_B":"io6dxw7","created_at_utc_A":1662954887,"created_at_utc_B":1663019307,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Go to the vet, it could be a ton of things","human_ref_B":"The only thing you can do if vet is not an option is to prepare yourself psychologically for the coming grief. If he hisses at you when being picked up it's likely he's in some kind of pain, maybe the fall damaged something else or maybe the broken teeth don't let him eat properly. Or who knows. Only a vet could tell. Do you know if he eats? Does he poop?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":64420.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io5ows5","c_root_id_B":"io6dxw7","created_at_utc_A":1663009018,"created_at_utc_B":1663019307,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I would take to vet and have its teeth checked","human_ref_B":"The only thing you can do if vet is not an option is to prepare yourself psychologically for the coming grief. If he hisses at you when being picked up it's likely he's in some kind of pain, maybe the fall damaged something else or maybe the broken teeth don't let him eat properly. Or who knows. Only a vet could tell. Do you know if he eats? Does he poop?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10289.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io79vej","c_root_id_B":"io2zh8p","created_at_utc_A":1663033229,"created_at_utc_B":1662954887,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you are having to go through this, try and continue to do what you can but prepare yourself that it may not be enough. I work at a vet clinic and one of the doctors told me he never bets against a cat. I hope that is the case this time.","human_ref_B":"Go to the vet, it could be a ton of things","labels":1,"seconds_difference":78342.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xc0s11","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"my cat keep losing weight and his breath smells like a dead animal! !  My two years old cat been losing weight lately since last year he fell off the balcony ( 3rd floor) and i live in a small village at nowhere in Africa so we have no vets in here unfortunately i treated him at home by wrapping his legs and cleaning blood from his mouth and teeth but since then his breath smells like a dead animal if he yawns you can smell it it covers the whole room and he started losing weight, first he wasn't eating much and sometimes not at all now he's eating normally but keep getting skinnier :'( also last December i found homeless kittens i brought them home and since my cats are not vaccinated and the kittens probably were sick because all my cats became severely ill ( i lost one unfortunately my dearest) and the others got scabies specially this one i rushed two of them to the only vet we have ( long way to go to i had to travel to another town too  expensive i can't afford that now) luckily the scabies is gone and the other cat that was breathing heavily recovered but my black cat ( the one that is getting skinnier keeps losing weight and his breath smells bad and his fur became so thin and whenever i try to pick him up or touch him he hiss at me ) \ud83d\ude1e i'm panicking about my cats health idk what to do all of them are having bad health conditions and i can't figure out what's wrong and i can't handle the loss of another cat. \ud83d\ude1e","c_root_id_A":"io79vej","c_root_id_B":"io5ows5","created_at_utc_A":1663033229,"created_at_utc_B":1663009018,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry you are having to go through this, try and continue to do what you can but prepare yourself that it may not be enough. I work at a vet clinic and one of the doctors told me he never bets against a cat. I hope that is the case this time.","human_ref_B":"I would take to vet and have its teeth checked","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24211.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8z0axb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog constantly scratches and is always itchy nonstop all day. Any methods or products I can try? Thanks guys.","c_root_id_A":"e2f5jmd","c_root_id_B":"e2f3psy","created_at_utc_A":1531648544,"created_at_utc_B":1531644350,"score_A":16,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Very difficult to make a good diagnosis over the internet, although it sounds like it is most likely to be skin related.  My recommendation would be to go see your vet and discuss things such as parasites (like mites and fleas), food allergies, and other (environmental) allergies.  Regardless of the cause, your vet will likely have medication to reduce the itch in the short term and improve your dogs quality of life!","human_ref_B":"What food is your dog on? Does it chew its paws as well?   You may need to go see a vet and then maybe get a referral to a pet dermatologist","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4194.0,"score_ratio":3.2}
{"post_id":"rfe9vm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why did my healthy cat die suddenly?  I had a 12 week old kitten that was happy and healthy (I thought) until this morning after having to be rushed to vet and put to sleep. Yesterday I noticed bruising on Sunnys ears and belly. (I will add a photo) but otherwise he was fine. Playing, eating, etc. But the bruising concerned me so I called the emergency vet and sent photos. They advised that it could wait til Monday so long as he was playing and eating. Which he was so we went about the day. I noticed he wanted to sit by the heating vent and to snuggle right under us that night. Now it was probably because he was so cold. This morning we woke up to him puking and gagging up foam. And was so listless. We rushed him to vet where on the way he pooped which looked like deer poop but solid, was throwing up blood, and crying. It was horrific. When we got to vet he had declined significantly and his breathing was rapid and his temperature had dropped and he was having seizures. Dr advise tht he wouldn\u2019t make it and he had to be put the sleep. Drs opinion was a genetic clotting disorder. I have racked my brain with why this happened. I told the vet that he had gotten into soup broth on Friday but dr said that couldnt cause this. We don\u2019t have rat poison in our home or any chemicals he could reach. I would just like to get other\u2019s opinions as this all happened so fast. And now I\u2019m home wondering how this could happen. We are devastated. He was the sweetest boy. \ud83d\ude3f   Male  Orange tabby  12 weeks Neutered  Canada","c_root_id_A":"hof01y5","c_root_id_B":"hodetgb","created_at_utc_A":1639423917,"created_at_utc_B":1639399055,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If the doctor believes it to be genetic then there really isn't anything you could've done. Has anyone recommended an necropsy for your little one? It might help you understand the exact cause of death. Not the why, but it will help with the how.","human_ref_B":"If it\u2019s just in his genes, there\u2019s nothing you did wrong or could have done differently. His short life was full of love and you made his life wonderful I\u2019m sure, you sound very caring. I\u2019m so sorry to you and your family and your baby \u2764\ufe0f","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24862.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"60l15o","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Guilt over selfishly keeping my dog alive for the past 6 months I am sorry if this isn't the place to post this, I just don't know where else to turn.  I have an elderly dog whose health has been declining slowly but steadily in the past few years. He ate we\u013al, chased squirrells, and while his arthritis made it harder for him to move, he was still enthusiastic to be walked, pet, brushed, and loved on.  Yesterday, he suddenly got a lot worse (crying constantly, erratic behavior) so we brought him in to the vet. We have some painkillers and an appointment to have him euthanized on Saturday (my mom is out of the country and wanted to be there for his last day; the vet says his condition is acceptable enough for us to keep him alive for a few days and he's confident it won't rapidly deteriorate).   This is really just a case of an old dog being ready to stop suffering. He isn't particularly sick, just arthritic, underweight, and he just doesn't have a good quality of life anymore.  Thing is, I am afraid we have been keeping him alive for selfish reasons for a few months now. Now that I see that his quality of life is unacceptable, I think back to how he was 4-6 months ago, and I can't help but feel that we should have let him go months ago already. It was just so hard to see he was suffering so much, when his decline was so slow and gradual, and he never really complained, and he'd always been healthy so I had never had to ask myself if it was time. I am having a lot of difficulty dealing with this guilt in addition to the grief of losing a valued companion. Any help with dealing with this would be really appreciated.  I'd talk to my vet but I'd just start bawling again, so writing this out allows me to formulate my thoughts better.","c_root_id_A":"df7xtuv","c_root_id_B":"df7f9vi","created_at_utc_A":1490111084,"created_at_utc_B":1490073089,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Dogs are allowed to be sick, and to get older, and to be very old, just like people.  I'll bet the past few months were precious to all of you. Giving good care to loved ones is one of the greatest displays of unconditional love we have.  How perfect that we have a chance to show our dogs what we learned from them.  Thank you for loving your beautiful pup.","human_ref_B":"I went through this after I put my last dog to sleep. I got through it by thinking of the good times during that period, and there were a lot of them. It may not have been the best decision, but my dog was loved throughout that time. And, honestly, I hope I learn something for future fur family. We are not perfect. Our animals are not perfect. But the love we have for them, and them for us, can get us through some mistakes we may have made. I guarantee you if someone could communicate with your dog, his memories are going to be of good times you and your family had together.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37995.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"i7vk6n","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My dog keeps jolting awake in a panicked frenzy every time he falls asleep? Please help! Hello, first time poster here. Our dog (a 4 year old dachshund) has been having what I can only describe as night terrors recently that have us very concerned. They started seemingly out of nowhere, but essentially every time he drifts off to sleep he VIOLENTLY wakes up, sometimes still in a dream-like haze, and frantically starts running around the house like he's trying to escape from an imaginary attacker or trying to get somewhere in a hurry. During these episodes, he often times has no idea where he is or whats going on and it takes a couple dozen seconds for him to finally snap out of it, even with us holding him or calling his name. It's almost like Alzheimer levels on unawareness when he's first jolted awake. These episodes have unfortunately led to him falling off the couch and bed and have even led him to run into walls, injuring himself multiple times but nothing we do seems to help! Even when we let him sleep on the floor he still ends up crashing into a wall or furniture before he finally comes to and attempt to go back to sleep.     We have ZERO idea what has triggered this. He has never suffered from abuse nor has he ever been attacked. He's been with us his entire life and lives in a very safe and loving home. All of our local vets have said they've never heard of this issue before and prescribed anxiety medication that has not seemed to help all too much. His mood is also changing as he's become more irritated with us (I'm assuming from total lack of sleep). Almost every time the poor thing nods off he suffers these episodes, ALL night long for WEEKS now, which has led to NONE of us getting any sleep. We are at a total loss outside of our vets recommending expensive neurologist specialists we can't currently afford. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I can provide videos of a few of the episodes if that helps as well.","c_root_id_A":"g15fqj3","c_root_id_B":"g15cx3v","created_at_utc_A":1597184445,"created_at_utc_B":1597183128,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"As has been said, your dog would likely benefit from a referral to a neurologist and\/or a veterinary behaviorist. Talk to your vet which one they think would be better to see first.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet! Curious what medication he is on?  Some meds have crazy side effects for dogs just like they do for us. Either way, he does need to see some sort of specialist if your local vets aren\u2019t making progress.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1317.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0jrbe","c_root_id_B":"fg0m4dk","created_at_utc_A":1580409201,"created_at_utc_B":1580410550,"score_A":3,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Every day, all the time.","human_ref_B":"Apply online for CareCredit; it's a 0% interest credit card solely for medical purposes that allows you to pay off in 1-2 years.  This isn't the best option and it sucks it has to come down to this, but quicker than Gofundme for urgent situations...","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1349.0,"score_ratio":11.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0u6iv","c_root_id_B":"fg1otbz","created_at_utc_A":1580415094,"created_at_utc_B":1580430993,"score_A":18,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Daily. Sometimes multiple times a day. What I think about these scenarios is: what *can* we do within the owner\u2019s budget to help this patient. Sometimes the pet is in such dire straits that there really are no conservative options, but often we are able to put together a less costly plan. It may not be the perfect option, but we don\u2019t always live in a perfect world. What I care most about is making pets healthy and well.","human_ref_B":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15899.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg0qggv","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580413015,"score_A":22,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"Can you ask for other options in the interim that would be cheaper? Like a different prescription diet, a gastro friendly\/hydrolyzed protein one. See how that goes for a few weeks and then do blood work if the vomiting continues or worsens?   If the other payment options mentioned dont work for you, consider asking around till you can find a vet that takes a payment plan.   Getting pet insurance now would not cover you for this, or any gastro related conditions in the future, as it's a pre existing condition.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17978.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0vdyg","c_root_id_B":"fg1otbz","created_at_utc_A":1580415772,"created_at_utc_B":1580430993,"score_A":9,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"If you qualify, try to ask on RandomActsOfPetFood if someone can refill your supply of food, so that you can save for tests. It\u2019s not ideal and I understand if you don\u2019t want to, and it\u2019s definitely not a long-term solution, but it might help just right now.  How much do the tests cost, individually?","human_ref_B":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15221.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg16eh4","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580421644,"score_A":22,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"Disclaimer- I'm not a vet, but I just want to sympathize with you.   I'm also a college student (20 now) and when I first moved into my own place with my partner at 18, we adopted two cats. Growing up neither of us had cats with chronic issues. Promptly, the kitten (10 weeks) ended up being a huge financial \"burden.\" We were taking her to the vet often, and eventually found out that she was either 1.) Allergic to vaccines or (more likely) 2.) Younger than the person told us she was which caused her to have bad reactions. Luckily it was during the summer so I picked up a second job to help with costs. Lo and behold, cat #2, who we adopted at 2 years old, is a chronic puker.   I dont know your exact situation, but we were also reccomend high end prescription food. And some cats just puke and vets dont know why. (My case) it helped getting him a slow feeder bowl, elevating it, giving him smalls meals throughout the day, and changing foods until we found something affordable that he doesnt puke as much with. He went from puking after almost every meal to anywhere from a couple times a week to months in between.   Did I learn my lesson? No.  I got a third cat. He was fine until this month, and he cost a bunch in vet bills.   My take always (or unsolicited advice)  1.) If you're working, start a savings for your pets. Even if you only throw $10 a week into it. Have some money specifically set aside for your fur babies.   2.) Exhaust all options before going to the costly one. (Again, I dont know your exact situation, I'm just going by what I went though for my pukey cat, and the other various issues the other cats had)   3.) Dont be afraid to ask for help. Go fund mes, and asking friends\/family for help can go a long way. If you're like me and dont like asking for money, offer something in return. (Cooking a meal to freeze, some house\/yard work, babysitting, ect)   I hope that you are always in the position to do everything you can for your fur babies, and I'm sending good vibes your way.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9349.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg1beee","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580424156,"score_A":22,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"1) Can I ask what kind of food he is on that is that costly?   2) I don't want to sway you from what your vet has recommended, BUT I think it is worthwhile to ask them the benefits of having an ultrasound and consult with an internist vs. the x-rays. My point for this being that many things are not visible on abdominal radiographs for chronic vomiting and GI issues, and for the amount of money you are going to be spending, 9\/10 your veterinarian is going to be like \"welp, we didn't see anything obvious on the x-rays so we'd like to refer you to get an abdominal ultrasound\"... which is going to cost you another $400. So, in my personal clinical experience, when we have financially restricted owners, we almost always send them right to the ultrasound in these cases and cut out the middle man. We save abdominal rads for cats generally just for acute vomiting if we are looking for a foreign body or for constipation.    3) There are other options besides the Care Credit I can recommend, there's a bunch of charities out there that help with medical costs as well as other companies like Wells Fargo has a medical payment card and also a company called ScratchPay made just for vet bills that has lower interest plan.   https:\/\/www.avma.org\/resources\/pet-owners\/yourvet\/financial-assistance-veterinary-care-costs  Try searching Google for \"vet bill charity\" and then your state\/location and there's tons of websites out there. You'll often need to supply documentation of your finances and fill out applications, but it's worthwhile to see what you can get.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6837.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg1iuye","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580427900,"score_A":22,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"You could try to see if there are any community\/reduced cost vet clinics in your area. Often these kind of programs will have restrictions like an income limit or you'll have to be on public assistance to qualify, but it's worth a shot. You could try asking local shelters if they know of any of these type of programs, which cod get this workup done for a lower cost.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3093.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1k2wa","c_root_id_B":"fg1otbz","created_at_utc_A":1580428521,"created_at_utc_B":1580430993,"score_A":3,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Disclaimer: I am not a vet but an assistant and manager in the field.  As others have said, it's a frequent problem. It's heartbreaking for the pet owner, the pet, the vet, and the staff. It's something I've struggled with throughout my time in veterinary medicine. I'm always empathetic unless a pet owner tries to tell us that we're money hungry, greedy, overcharging, or should be responsible for their pet's vet care. We want to do everything we can for our patients but are often limited by what a client is able to afford.  We get into this field because of our love for animals, but we also have bills to pay and the overhead for running a hospital is incredibly high. The more I get into management the more I'm shocked at the costs of maintaining this type of business. My own hospital has been burned badly by offering payment plans and at one point had tens of thousands of dollars in accounts receivable. And if you choose to cover the cost of treatment, which you couldn't do for everyone or your business would be shuttered, how do you decide who deserves it and who doesn't?  I truly think vets deserve more credit because of how hard they work to personally tailor each patient's diagnostics and treatment plan to each client's individual financial situation. From what I've seen, it's difficult for them to compromise the high level of care they want to provide. I read a really interesting article about compassion fatigue and the strain this puts on vets. Here's a link if anyone's interested in reading it. I think it offers a good perspective on what most vets go through.  I'm really sorry about your situation.  Everyone else has given great advice and information about options you have now and options you'll want to consider if you ever get a pet again, like pet insurance. I really wish you the best of luck with your kitty!","human_ref_B":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2472.0,"score_ratio":7.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg0jrbe","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580409201,"score_A":22,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"Every day, all the time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21792.0,"score_ratio":7.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1otbz","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580430993,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":22,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"> I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one,   Hey, if pets only went to homes that could afford hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in surprise medical bills, there would be *hundreds of thousands* more animals dying in shelters right now. Recognize the fact that you're putting in real effort. I know so many pet owners that won't even buy the prescription food that is genuinely necessary.   &#x200B;  With 46 comments already, I'm sure I will get buried and I'm likely already piling on to suggestions that have already been made, but:   &#x200B;  1) Care Credit. Repayment plans that include 0% interest if paid in full within 6 months.   2) Shelters. Many offer low-cost medical services. They can perform many of the services that a fully-equipped hospital can; but because they are subsidized by donations or even county funding, they can afford to charge a much smaller \"profit\" margin. Check your local area.   3) Local animal welfare groups. There are tons of organizations run by good Samaritans, people who collect funds to assist with vet bills. Ask your vet if they know of any in your area.","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20340.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0qggv","c_root_id_B":"fg0u6iv","created_at_utc_A":1580413015,"created_at_utc_B":1580415094,"score_A":12,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Can you ask for other options in the interim that would be cheaper? Like a different prescription diet, a gastro friendly\/hydrolyzed protein one. See how that goes for a few weeks and then do blood work if the vomiting continues or worsens?   If the other payment options mentioned dont work for you, consider asking around till you can find a vet that takes a payment plan.   Getting pet insurance now would not cover you for this, or any gastro related conditions in the future, as it's a pre existing condition.","human_ref_B":"Daily. Sometimes multiple times a day. What I think about these scenarios is: what *can* we do within the owner\u2019s budget to help this patient. Sometimes the pet is in such dire straits that there really are no conservative options, but often we are able to put together a less costly plan. It may not be the perfect option, but we don\u2019t always live in a perfect world. What I care most about is making pets healthy and well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2079.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0jrbe","c_root_id_B":"fg0u6iv","created_at_utc_A":1580409201,"created_at_utc_B":1580415094,"score_A":3,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Every day, all the time.","human_ref_B":"Daily. Sometimes multiple times a day. What I think about these scenarios is: what *can* we do within the owner\u2019s budget to help this patient. Sometimes the pet is in such dire straits that there really are no conservative options, but often we are able to put together a less costly plan. It may not be the perfect option, but we don\u2019t always live in a perfect world. What I care most about is making pets healthy and well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5893.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0u6iv","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580415094,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":18,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Daily. Sometimes multiple times a day. What I think about these scenarios is: what *can* we do within the owner\u2019s budget to help this patient. Sometimes the pet is in such dire straits that there really are no conservative options, but often we are able to put together a less costly plan. It may not be the perfect option, but we don\u2019t always live in a perfect world. What I care most about is making pets healthy and well.","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4441.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0qggv","c_root_id_B":"fg0jrbe","created_at_utc_A":1580413015,"created_at_utc_B":1580409201,"score_A":12,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Can you ask for other options in the interim that would be cheaper? Like a different prescription diet, a gastro friendly\/hydrolyzed protein one. See how that goes for a few weeks and then do blood work if the vomiting continues or worsens?   If the other payment options mentioned dont work for you, consider asking around till you can find a vet that takes a payment plan.   Getting pet insurance now would not cover you for this, or any gastro related conditions in the future, as it's a pre existing condition.","human_ref_B":"Every day, all the time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3814.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0qggv","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580413015,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Can you ask for other options in the interim that would be cheaper? Like a different prescription diet, a gastro friendly\/hydrolyzed protein one. See how that goes for a few weeks and then do blood work if the vomiting continues or worsens?   If the other payment options mentioned dont work for you, consider asking around till you can find a vet that takes a payment plan.   Getting pet insurance now would not cover you for this, or any gastro related conditions in the future, as it's a pre existing condition.","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2362.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0jrbe","c_root_id_B":"fg0vdyg","created_at_utc_A":1580409201,"created_at_utc_B":1580415772,"score_A":3,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Every day, all the time.","human_ref_B":"If you qualify, try to ask on RandomActsOfPetFood if someone can refill your supply of food, so that you can save for tests. It\u2019s not ideal and I understand if you don\u2019t want to, and it\u2019s definitely not a long-term solution, but it might help just right now.  How much do the tests cost, individually?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6571.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0vdyg","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580415772,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you qualify, try to ask on RandomActsOfPetFood if someone can refill your supply of food, so that you can save for tests. It\u2019s not ideal and I understand if you don\u2019t want to, and it\u2019s definitely not a long-term solution, but it might help just right now.  How much do the tests cost, individually?","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5119.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg16eh4","c_root_id_B":"fg0jrbe","created_at_utc_A":1580421644,"created_at_utc_B":1580409201,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Disclaimer- I'm not a vet, but I just want to sympathize with you.   I'm also a college student (20 now) and when I first moved into my own place with my partner at 18, we adopted two cats. Growing up neither of us had cats with chronic issues. Promptly, the kitten (10 weeks) ended up being a huge financial \"burden.\" We were taking her to the vet often, and eventually found out that she was either 1.) Allergic to vaccines or (more likely) 2.) Younger than the person told us she was which caused her to have bad reactions. Luckily it was during the summer so I picked up a second job to help with costs. Lo and behold, cat #2, who we adopted at 2 years old, is a chronic puker.   I dont know your exact situation, but we were also reccomend high end prescription food. And some cats just puke and vets dont know why. (My case) it helped getting him a slow feeder bowl, elevating it, giving him smalls meals throughout the day, and changing foods until we found something affordable that he doesnt puke as much with. He went from puking after almost every meal to anywhere from a couple times a week to months in between.   Did I learn my lesson? No.  I got a third cat. He was fine until this month, and he cost a bunch in vet bills.   My take always (or unsolicited advice)  1.) If you're working, start a savings for your pets. Even if you only throw $10 a week into it. Have some money specifically set aside for your fur babies.   2.) Exhaust all options before going to the costly one. (Again, I dont know your exact situation, I'm just going by what I went though for my pukey cat, and the other various issues the other cats had)   3.) Dont be afraid to ask for help. Go fund mes, and asking friends\/family for help can go a long way. If you're like me and dont like asking for money, offer something in return. (Cooking a meal to freeze, some house\/yard work, babysitting, ect)   I hope that you are always in the position to do everything you can for your fur babies, and I'm sending good vibes your way.","human_ref_B":"Every day, all the time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12443.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg16eh4","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580421644,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Disclaimer- I'm not a vet, but I just want to sympathize with you.   I'm also a college student (20 now) and when I first moved into my own place with my partner at 18, we adopted two cats. Growing up neither of us had cats with chronic issues. Promptly, the kitten (10 weeks) ended up being a huge financial \"burden.\" We were taking her to the vet often, and eventually found out that she was either 1.) Allergic to vaccines or (more likely) 2.) Younger than the person told us she was which caused her to have bad reactions. Luckily it was during the summer so I picked up a second job to help with costs. Lo and behold, cat #2, who we adopted at 2 years old, is a chronic puker.   I dont know your exact situation, but we were also reccomend high end prescription food. And some cats just puke and vets dont know why. (My case) it helped getting him a slow feeder bowl, elevating it, giving him smalls meals throughout the day, and changing foods until we found something affordable that he doesnt puke as much with. He went from puking after almost every meal to anywhere from a couple times a week to months in between.   Did I learn my lesson? No.  I got a third cat. He was fine until this month, and he cost a bunch in vet bills.   My take always (or unsolicited advice)  1.) If you're working, start a savings for your pets. Even if you only throw $10 a week into it. Have some money specifically set aside for your fur babies.   2.) Exhaust all options before going to the costly one. (Again, I dont know your exact situation, I'm just going by what I went though for my pukey cat, and the other various issues the other cats had)   3.) Dont be afraid to ask for help. Go fund mes, and asking friends\/family for help can go a long way. If you're like me and dont like asking for money, offer something in return. (Cooking a meal to freeze, some house\/yard work, babysitting, ect)   I hope that you are always in the position to do everything you can for your fur babies, and I'm sending good vibes your way.","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10991.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0jrbe","c_root_id_B":"fg1beee","created_at_utc_A":1580409201,"created_at_utc_B":1580424156,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Every day, all the time.","human_ref_B":"1) Can I ask what kind of food he is on that is that costly?   2) I don't want to sway you from what your vet has recommended, BUT I think it is worthwhile to ask them the benefits of having an ultrasound and consult with an internist vs. the x-rays. My point for this being that many things are not visible on abdominal radiographs for chronic vomiting and GI issues, and for the amount of money you are going to be spending, 9\/10 your veterinarian is going to be like \"welp, we didn't see anything obvious on the x-rays so we'd like to refer you to get an abdominal ultrasound\"... which is going to cost you another $400. So, in my personal clinical experience, when we have financially restricted owners, we almost always send them right to the ultrasound in these cases and cut out the middle man. We save abdominal rads for cats generally just for acute vomiting if we are looking for a foreign body or for constipation.    3) There are other options besides the Care Credit I can recommend, there's a bunch of charities out there that help with medical costs as well as other companies like Wells Fargo has a medical payment card and also a company called ScratchPay made just for vet bills that has lower interest plan.   https:\/\/www.avma.org\/resources\/pet-owners\/yourvet\/financial-assistance-veterinary-care-costs  Try searching Google for \"vet bill charity\" and then your state\/location and there's tons of websites out there. You'll often need to supply documentation of your finances and fill out applications, but it's worthwhile to see what you can get.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14955.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0mavt","c_root_id_B":"fg1beee","created_at_utc_A":1580410653,"created_at_utc_B":1580424156,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Very frequent.","human_ref_B":"1) Can I ask what kind of food he is on that is that costly?   2) I don't want to sway you from what your vet has recommended, BUT I think it is worthwhile to ask them the benefits of having an ultrasound and consult with an internist vs. the x-rays. My point for this being that many things are not visible on abdominal radiographs for chronic vomiting and GI issues, and for the amount of money you are going to be spending, 9\/10 your veterinarian is going to be like \"welp, we didn't see anything obvious on the x-rays so we'd like to refer you to get an abdominal ultrasound\"... which is going to cost you another $400. So, in my personal clinical experience, when we have financially restricted owners, we almost always send them right to the ultrasound in these cases and cut out the middle man. We save abdominal rads for cats generally just for acute vomiting if we are looking for a foreign body or for constipation.    3) There are other options besides the Care Credit I can recommend, there's a bunch of charities out there that help with medical costs as well as other companies like Wells Fargo has a medical payment card and also a company called ScratchPay made just for vet bills that has lower interest plan.   https:\/\/www.avma.org\/resources\/pet-owners\/yourvet\/financial-assistance-veterinary-care-costs  Try searching Google for \"vet bill charity\" and then your state\/location and there's tons of websites out there. You'll often need to supply documentation of your finances and fill out applications, but it's worthwhile to see what you can get.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13503.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0jrbe","c_root_id_B":"fg1iuye","created_at_utc_A":1580409201,"created_at_utc_B":1580427900,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Every day, all the time.","human_ref_B":"You could try to see if there are any community\/reduced cost vet clinics in your area. Often these kind of programs will have restrictions like an income limit or you'll have to be on public assistance to qualify, but it's worth a shot. You could try asking local shelters if they know of any of these type of programs, which cod get this workup done for a lower cost.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18699.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0mavt","c_root_id_B":"fg1iuye","created_at_utc_A":1580410653,"created_at_utc_B":1580427900,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Very frequent.","human_ref_B":"You could try to see if there are any community\/reduced cost vet clinics in your area. Often these kind of programs will have restrictions like an income limit or you'll have to be on public assistance to qualify, but it's worth a shot. You could try asking local shelters if they know of any of these type of programs, which cod get this workup done for a lower cost.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17247.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg1k2wa","c_root_id_B":"fg0mavt","created_at_utc_A":1580428521,"created_at_utc_B":1580410653,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Disclaimer: I am not a vet but an assistant and manager in the field.  As others have said, it's a frequent problem. It's heartbreaking for the pet owner, the pet, the vet, and the staff. It's something I've struggled with throughout my time in veterinary medicine. I'm always empathetic unless a pet owner tries to tell us that we're money hungry, greedy, overcharging, or should be responsible for their pet's vet care. We want to do everything we can for our patients but are often limited by what a client is able to afford.  We get into this field because of our love for animals, but we also have bills to pay and the overhead for running a hospital is incredibly high. The more I get into management the more I'm shocked at the costs of maintaining this type of business. My own hospital has been burned badly by offering payment plans and at one point had tens of thousands of dollars in accounts receivable. And if you choose to cover the cost of treatment, which you couldn't do for everyone or your business would be shuttered, how do you decide who deserves it and who doesn't?  I truly think vets deserve more credit because of how hard they work to personally tailor each patient's diagnostics and treatment plan to each client's individual financial situation. From what I've seen, it's difficult for them to compromise the high level of care they want to provide. I read a really interesting article about compassion fatigue and the strain this puts on vets. Here's a link if anyone's interested in reading it. I think it offers a good perspective on what most vets go through.  I'm really sorry about your situation.  Everyone else has given great advice and information about options you have now and options you'll want to consider if you ever get a pet again, like pet insurance. I really wish you the best of luck with your kitty!","human_ref_B":"Very frequent.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17868.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg0mavt","c_root_id_B":"fg251p1","created_at_utc_A":1580410653,"created_at_utc_B":1580438386,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Very frequent.","human_ref_B":"Is there another vet you can try? Or is there a city animal shelter that provides m medical care? Lastly, look for a rescue and see if they can provide any help. I would try to get another quote\/opinion if you can.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27733.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg251p1","c_root_id_B":"fg22b30","created_at_utc_A":1580438386,"created_at_utc_B":1580436824,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is there another vet you can try? Or is there a city animal shelter that provides m medical care? Lastly, look for a rescue and see if they can provide any help. I would try to get another quote\/opinion if you can.","human_ref_B":"Have you tried these resources?  Humane Society Resources   Organizations in North America","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1562.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ew95xn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can't Afford Vet Care for Sick Cat My cat throws up fairly frequently (once every two or three weeks, usually) and had a pretty bad bout this morning. I took him to our vet, and they want to do a series of tests (blood work, xrays, etc) to figure out what's wrong with him since this is a chronic issue. About a year ago, he also had problems urinating and has been on a prescription diet for that.  The problem, is that I can't afford the treatment they want to do. I get my paycheck tomorrow, so they said I could bring him back tomorrow if I want (since they don't do payment plans) and gave him a shot for nausea. The tests are more than my paycheck. I will have enough, but I also have bills to pay, and the next portion of my tuition (I'm a college student) is due soon as well.  I recognize that its irresponsible to get a pet when you can't afford one, but I was 18 when I got him (22 now) and didn't have a lot of expenses and did have a decent income at the time. I've also always had pets growing up, and none of them ever had chronic issues like this, especially so young (he's 4 years old) so I didn't have a realistic view of the potential expense. His prescription food is $100 a bag. So I do recognize that adopting a cat was a bad decision financially, but now that I have him, it's my responsibility to care for him, and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving him to someone I don't know.  So my question is: as a vet, how often do you encounter this problem? How often do your patients \"parents\" not have the money to afford the treatments they need? What do you think of that scenario? How do you handle it?  (Note: I did look at the FAQ and will be looking into CareCredit as recommended)","c_root_id_A":"fg251p1","c_root_id_B":"fg24u2x","created_at_utc_A":1580438386,"created_at_utc_B":1580438236,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is there another vet you can try? Or is there a city animal shelter that provides m medical care? Lastly, look for a rescue and see if they can provide any help. I would try to get another quote\/opinion if you can.","human_ref_B":"Pet insurance?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":150.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqg2mmf","c_root_id_B":"iqfktui","created_at_utc_A":1664502482,"created_at_utc_B":1664494340,"score_A":67,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"You could maybe try and get a second opinion from a different vet?","human_ref_B":"Do you have a video? If so, please upload it somewhere and post the link here.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8142.0,"score_ratio":6.0909090909}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqfktui","c_root_id_B":"iqgeau9","created_at_utc_A":1664494340,"created_at_utc_B":1664507918,"score_A":11,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Do you have a video? If so, please upload it somewhere and post the link here.","human_ref_B":"Try asking for x rays of tummy and maybe even blood work. The x ray should show if anything is in his tummy","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13578.0,"score_ratio":3.1818181818}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqgeau9","c_root_id_B":"iqg4vv4","created_at_utc_A":1664507918,"created_at_utc_B":1664503465,"score_A":35,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Try asking for x rays of tummy and maybe even blood work. The x ray should show if anything is in his tummy","human_ref_B":"Oh, you need to find a new vet!! I read that they haven\u2019t done any exams? This is not okay. They should be investigating :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4453.0,"score_ratio":3.8888888889}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqgicwj","c_root_id_B":"iqgkpgl","created_at_utc_A":1664510046,"created_at_utc_B":1664511396,"score_A":17,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"I would recommend taking her to see someone else and demand blood tests be done","human_ref_B":"Maybe she needs an EGD (esophagogastroduodenoscopy) to make sure she doesn\u2019t have something stuck in her throat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1350.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqgkpgl","c_root_id_B":"iqfktui","created_at_utc_A":1664511396,"created_at_utc_B":1664494340,"score_A":34,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Maybe she needs an EGD (esophagogastroduodenoscopy) to make sure she doesn\u2019t have something stuck in her throat.","human_ref_B":"Do you have a video? If so, please upload it somewhere and post the link here.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17056.0,"score_ratio":3.0909090909}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqg4vv4","c_root_id_B":"iqgkpgl","created_at_utc_A":1664503465,"created_at_utc_B":1664511396,"score_A":9,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Oh, you need to find a new vet!! I read that they haven\u2019t done any exams? This is not okay. They should be investigating :(","human_ref_B":"Maybe she needs an EGD (esophagogastroduodenoscopy) to make sure she doesn\u2019t have something stuck in her throat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7931.0,"score_ratio":3.7777777778}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqgkpgl","c_root_id_B":"iqgiq5t","created_at_utc_A":1664511396,"created_at_utc_B":1664510255,"score_A":34,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Maybe she needs an EGD (esophagogastroduodenoscopy) to make sure she doesn\u2019t have something stuck in her throat.","human_ref_B":"Is there a vet hospital nearby? Does a local university have a vet school that sees patients? She obviously needs immediate treatment.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1141.0,"score_ratio":5.6666666667}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqfktui","c_root_id_B":"iqgicwj","created_at_utc_A":1664494340,"created_at_utc_B":1664510046,"score_A":11,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Do you have a video? If so, please upload it somewhere and post the link here.","human_ref_B":"I would recommend taking her to see someone else and demand blood tests be done","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15706.0,"score_ratio":1.5454545455}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqg4vv4","c_root_id_B":"iqgicwj","created_at_utc_A":1664503465,"created_at_utc_B":1664510046,"score_A":9,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Oh, you need to find a new vet!! I read that they haven\u2019t done any exams? This is not okay. They should be investigating :(","human_ref_B":"I would recommend taking her to see someone else and demand blood tests be done","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6581.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqhz586","c_root_id_B":"iqgiq5t","created_at_utc_A":1664545891,"created_at_utc_B":1664510255,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Please take your cat to an emergency pet hospital! My Balinese (long hair Siamese) was 14yr old when she started the same thing. She died in my arms 2days later. I didn\u2019t think it was serious. If I could do it again, I would have taken her to the hospital in the next city (none in my city). It completely crushed my soul.","human_ref_B":"Is there a vet hospital nearby? Does a local university have a vet school that sees patients? She obviously needs immediate treatment.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35636.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqhz586","c_root_id_B":"iqhxlvx","created_at_utc_A":1664545891,"created_at_utc_B":1664545207,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Please take your cat to an emergency pet hospital! My Balinese (long hair Siamese) was 14yr old when she started the same thing. She died in my arms 2days later. I didn\u2019t think it was serious. If I could do it again, I would have taken her to the hospital in the next city (none in my city). It completely crushed my soul.","human_ref_B":"Try a different vet.  If you are close to a university with a veterinary medicine program perhaps you can get an appointment to see a specialist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":684.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqgqiuc","c_root_id_B":"iqhz586","created_at_utc_A":1664515078,"created_at_utc_B":1664545891,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Indoor\/outdoor by chance? Any \"cat grass\" she chews? Any sedated oral exams?","human_ref_B":"Please take your cat to an emergency pet hospital! My Balinese (long hair Siamese) was 14yr old when she started the same thing. She died in my arms 2days later. I didn\u2019t think it was serious. If I could do it again, I would have taken her to the hospital in the next city (none in my city). It completely crushed my soul.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":30813.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqhxlvx","c_root_id_B":"iqgqiuc","created_at_utc_A":1664545207,"created_at_utc_B":1664515078,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Try a different vet.  If you are close to a university with a veterinary medicine program perhaps you can get an appointment to see a specialist.","human_ref_B":"Indoor\/outdoor by chance? Any \"cat grass\" she chews? Any sedated oral exams?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30129.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xrlyq5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Female Cat gagging, refusing food and water, lethargic. Vet visits not working My cat has been brought to our vet 5-6 times now and they've all provided temporary relief for my cat. She's a 7-8 year old Flame Point Siamese who has just recently been having issues with her throat. She's gagging, refusing food and water, and is extremely lethargic. The vet provided this pink antibiotic medicine that helped while she was taking it, but once it ran out she's right back to being sick. I don't know what else to do.","c_root_id_A":"iqjddsy","c_root_id_B":"iqj2pg9","created_at_utc_A":1664566222,"created_at_utc_B":1664561911,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I would ask for a referral to an internal medicine specialist. If several visits to your primary care physician haven't solved the issue, it's time to a specialist. Make sure you take a video of her having these episodes and prepare to do some serious diagnostics if you want answers.","human_ref_B":"Get another opinion fast. Better to do more and find out nothings wrong than to do less and have something life threatening","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4311.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"rkmfjs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Question about my dog euthanasia My partner and I put decided to put down our 17 yo cocker spaniel yesterday. She had ovarian cancer which made her incontinent since last week and overnight from Sat to Sun she lost use of her hind legs. She also had a 6\/6 heart murmur. Her body was shutting down but her spirit wanted to keep living. She still ate. She didn\u2019t understand her legs weren\u2019t working anymore. She wanted to pee and poo outside despite diapers. However, She did wine\/whistle a tad as she was sleeping over the past week. We assumed it was pain. She weighed 9 kg.   The vet gave her a dose of sedative and asked us to wait 15 mins. She became super agitated and started howling a lot. My partner was freaking out and getting angry. She eventually fell asleep but woke back up howling. The vet kept saying it was normal but lacked empathy. My boyfriend recalls he grabbed her snout and pulled down her face in an attempt to calm her but he was rough about it. This really upset him. He said What the fuck at which point the vet, an older man, raised his voice at him! I tried calming everyone down but it was tense. They made us pay in the middle of the wait time after giving the sedative. She hadn\u2019t even passed yet. I think it\u2019s because my boyfriend swore at the situation. He wanted his dog to go peacefully which wasn\u2019t really the case. The vet explained to me he gave a dose that wouldn\u2019t induced cardiac arrest fir a 10kg weight because of her murmur. The sedative was being given for putting the IV.   Our dog was going through bouts if conciousness and unconciousness and it felt like forever. She was howling. We were distressed. At some point i knocked on their office door and asked for the propofol injection. Which they gave. But they offered more sedative and made me question my decision to put her to sleep ASAP. She died during that injection. She didn\u2019t make it to the shot that was supposed to kill her.   I put down my other dog in 2019. She just had propofol and the actual euthanasia. It wasn\u2019t that distressing for the dog. No sedative, they just put in the IV. That dog was, however, closer to actual death having stopped eating. She was very tired. She went peacefully.   My question is, was that reaction to the sedative normal? Did she have pain from it or was it confusion? My partner and I are disturbed by her reaction to it and her howling. We hope she didn\u2019t realize we were killing her. We hope she didn\u2019t have pain. We feel her last moments were not peaceful like they were for our other dog.   Thank you","c_root_id_A":"hpbohy8","c_root_id_B":"hpbmlk5","created_at_utc_A":1640025097,"created_at_utc_B":1640024339,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"First of all, I'm so sorry for your loss.    All medical experiences including euthanasia are as individual and unique as the pet.  In my many years of veterinary experience, I have witnessed and been honored to share in the passing of many pets, and have seen a very broad spectrum of passings.  It seems, in this case, that you were not prepared for the range of reactions in pets that can take place.  I'm sorry this has caused you to worry.  Although your experience was within the normal spectrum, it's not what we as veterinary professionals consider to be ideal.  Please realize that we cannot control your pet's reaction to the medications.   Most passings are brief and are simply a release, where the pet succumbs to the process and passes within a few minutes.  However some pets experience an \"excitement phase\" during the process, which is simply the pet's brain reacting to the solution and not an indication of pain.  It is the body's way of releasing energy, nothing more.    I'm so sorry you were not prepared that this type of phase can happen before the procedure.  We cannot predict which pets will have this reaction and as practitioners, we always do all we can to help the passing go smoothly.  We are all secretly hoping your pet won't be the one with the excitement phase.   One thing you probably don't realize is that we never become immune to the owners' anguish and emotions of their pet's  passing, and although we are professional and keep our composure, we are right there with you in those final moments, letting go of your pet as you are.  I've never heard many veterinary professionals admit this, but it's there.  We have witnessed your pets at their most wounded and weak moments, and comforted and reassured you through those experiences, so you and they are part of our lives and hearts as well.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry this was a traumatic experience for you. I understand that things can look bad from an outside perspective but I don't think your dog suffered. Many sedatives can induce dysphoria, or a sort of twilight zone affect. Vocalization and other abnormal behavior can be seen since they aren't really aware of what they are doing.      As a sidenote the payment part was probably their normal routine. We always have people checkout first since most people don't want to have deal with paperwork afterwards when they are crying and even more upset. If they normally have people wait with their pet for the sedative to kick in, they are probably used to using that time for in-room checkout.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":758.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"rkmfjs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Question about my dog euthanasia My partner and I put decided to put down our 17 yo cocker spaniel yesterday. She had ovarian cancer which made her incontinent since last week and overnight from Sat to Sun she lost use of her hind legs. She also had a 6\/6 heart murmur. Her body was shutting down but her spirit wanted to keep living. She still ate. She didn\u2019t understand her legs weren\u2019t working anymore. She wanted to pee and poo outside despite diapers. However, She did wine\/whistle a tad as she was sleeping over the past week. We assumed it was pain. She weighed 9 kg.   The vet gave her a dose of sedative and asked us to wait 15 mins. She became super agitated and started howling a lot. My partner was freaking out and getting angry. She eventually fell asleep but woke back up howling. The vet kept saying it was normal but lacked empathy. My boyfriend recalls he grabbed her snout and pulled down her face in an attempt to calm her but he was rough about it. This really upset him. He said What the fuck at which point the vet, an older man, raised his voice at him! I tried calming everyone down but it was tense. They made us pay in the middle of the wait time after giving the sedative. She hadn\u2019t even passed yet. I think it\u2019s because my boyfriend swore at the situation. He wanted his dog to go peacefully which wasn\u2019t really the case. The vet explained to me he gave a dose that wouldn\u2019t induced cardiac arrest fir a 10kg weight because of her murmur. The sedative was being given for putting the IV.   Our dog was going through bouts if conciousness and unconciousness and it felt like forever. She was howling. We were distressed. At some point i knocked on their office door and asked for the propofol injection. Which they gave. But they offered more sedative and made me question my decision to put her to sleep ASAP. She died during that injection. She didn\u2019t make it to the shot that was supposed to kill her.   I put down my other dog in 2019. She just had propofol and the actual euthanasia. It wasn\u2019t that distressing for the dog. No sedative, they just put in the IV. That dog was, however, closer to actual death having stopped eating. She was very tired. She went peacefully.   My question is, was that reaction to the sedative normal? Did she have pain from it or was it confusion? My partner and I are disturbed by her reaction to it and her howling. We hope she didn\u2019t realize we were killing her. We hope she didn\u2019t have pain. We feel her last moments were not peaceful like they were for our other dog.   Thank you","c_root_id_A":"hpb4urz","c_root_id_B":"hpbohy8","created_at_utc_A":1640017082,"created_at_utc_B":1640025097,"score_A":2,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"First of all, I'm so sorry for your loss.    All medical experiences including euthanasia are as individual and unique as the pet.  In my many years of veterinary experience, I have witnessed and been honored to share in the passing of many pets, and have seen a very broad spectrum of passings.  It seems, in this case, that you were not prepared for the range of reactions in pets that can take place.  I'm sorry this has caused you to worry.  Although your experience was within the normal spectrum, it's not what we as veterinary professionals consider to be ideal.  Please realize that we cannot control your pet's reaction to the medications.   Most passings are brief and are simply a release, where the pet succumbs to the process and passes within a few minutes.  However some pets experience an \"excitement phase\" during the process, which is simply the pet's brain reacting to the solution and not an indication of pain.  It is the body's way of releasing energy, nothing more.    I'm so sorry you were not prepared that this type of phase can happen before the procedure.  We cannot predict which pets will have this reaction and as practitioners, we always do all we can to help the passing go smoothly.  We are all secretly hoping your pet won't be the one with the excitement phase.   One thing you probably don't realize is that we never become immune to the owners' anguish and emotions of their pet's  passing, and although we are professional and keep our composure, we are right there with you in those final moments, letting go of your pet as you are.  I've never heard many veterinary professionals admit this, but it's there.  We have witnessed your pets at their most wounded and weak moments, and comforted and reassured you through those experiences, so you and they are part of our lives and hearts as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8015.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"rkmfjs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Question about my dog euthanasia My partner and I put decided to put down our 17 yo cocker spaniel yesterday. She had ovarian cancer which made her incontinent since last week and overnight from Sat to Sun she lost use of her hind legs. She also had a 6\/6 heart murmur. Her body was shutting down but her spirit wanted to keep living. She still ate. She didn\u2019t understand her legs weren\u2019t working anymore. She wanted to pee and poo outside despite diapers. However, She did wine\/whistle a tad as she was sleeping over the past week. We assumed it was pain. She weighed 9 kg.   The vet gave her a dose of sedative and asked us to wait 15 mins. She became super agitated and started howling a lot. My partner was freaking out and getting angry. She eventually fell asleep but woke back up howling. The vet kept saying it was normal but lacked empathy. My boyfriend recalls he grabbed her snout and pulled down her face in an attempt to calm her but he was rough about it. This really upset him. He said What the fuck at which point the vet, an older man, raised his voice at him! I tried calming everyone down but it was tense. They made us pay in the middle of the wait time after giving the sedative. She hadn\u2019t even passed yet. I think it\u2019s because my boyfriend swore at the situation. He wanted his dog to go peacefully which wasn\u2019t really the case. The vet explained to me he gave a dose that wouldn\u2019t induced cardiac arrest fir a 10kg weight because of her murmur. The sedative was being given for putting the IV.   Our dog was going through bouts if conciousness and unconciousness and it felt like forever. She was howling. We were distressed. At some point i knocked on their office door and asked for the propofol injection. Which they gave. But they offered more sedative and made me question my decision to put her to sleep ASAP. She died during that injection. She didn\u2019t make it to the shot that was supposed to kill her.   I put down my other dog in 2019. She just had propofol and the actual euthanasia. It wasn\u2019t that distressing for the dog. No sedative, they just put in the IV. That dog was, however, closer to actual death having stopped eating. She was very tired. She went peacefully.   My question is, was that reaction to the sedative normal? Did she have pain from it or was it confusion? My partner and I are disturbed by her reaction to it and her howling. We hope she didn\u2019t realize we were killing her. We hope she didn\u2019t have pain. We feel her last moments were not peaceful like they were for our other dog.   Thank you","c_root_id_A":"hpbmlk5","c_root_id_B":"hpb4urz","created_at_utc_A":1640024339,"created_at_utc_B":1640017082,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm sorry this was a traumatic experience for you. I understand that things can look bad from an outside perspective but I don't think your dog suffered. Many sedatives can induce dysphoria, or a sort of twilight zone affect. Vocalization and other abnormal behavior can be seen since they aren't really aware of what they are doing.      As a sidenote the payment part was probably their normal routine. We always have people checkout first since most people don't want to have deal with paperwork afterwards when they are crying and even more upset. If they normally have people wait with their pet for the sedative to kick in, they are probably used to using that time for in-room checkout.","human_ref_B":"I am so sorry for your loss.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7257.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"x4u85z","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"would it be weird to bring my cats urine unprovoked my cat was showing symptoms of a uti (no blockage) so i made him a vet appointment for today. i go out of town tomorrow, my mother is a lovely human being and she would do nearly anything for me but i believe she would draw the line at collecting my cats urine. so in order to avoid this i got a sample of it this morning and plan to take it with me to the appt as i know they would probably need to do a urinalysis.   i feel kinda weird doing this, it\u2019s a new vet as we just moved and they didn\u2019t ask me to do it.  would you think someone is weird for this?","c_root_id_A":"imxpd0f","c_root_id_B":"imxl19o","created_at_utc_A":1662218624,"created_at_utc_B":1662216788,"score_A":26,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I think most veterinarians would be very happy\/impressed with a recently collected at home urine sample.","human_ref_B":"As far as I know they wouldn't be able to take it. The procedure is done with a needle into the bladder so that there is no outside contamination","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1836.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"vycdm8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My cat face planted in the stairs while chasing my other cat, he bruised his face and chipped a tooth. That was two days ago and he eat well, should I see a vet? (See pictures) My poor boy Megatron faceplanted in the stairs while doing zoomies with my other cat. He's always been a bit clumsy but he never actually hurt himself to this day. He does slip and trip here and there but that was the first time he hid for a while after. I knew this time he hurt himself.   Now that was two days ago, the bruise below his nose was not there the other day, it showed up after somehow. Like he's been excessively licking it maybe? He does not let me touch his mouth long enough to snap a good picture of his tooth but there is definitely a small piece missing, it is not pointy anymore. I can't see if the root is exposed. He's had 4 full meals (dry cat food that he does chew) since this even and he seems to eat just fine.   He does not seem in pain or any different than usual and i'm sure his lip is gonna heal quickly but i'm concerned about his teeth. I don't want him to cut the inside of his mouth or something. I could not find the missing piece of the teeth on the stairs but i'm 100% sure it was intact before this event. Here are the (poor quality) pictures. Let me know if you think.","c_root_id_A":"ig39k81","c_root_id_B":"ig31t7f","created_at_utc_A":1657774779,"created_at_utc_B":1657770373,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Here's a tip, if you would go see a doctor for a similar injury, then you should probably take your cat to see a vet.  You would go to a doctor\/dentist if you chipped a tooth so yes, you need to take your cat to the vet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d say yes take it to see the vet just to be sure it\u2019s okay","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4406.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"31y6oe","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Why is it that many pet owners listen to their vet for everything except when it comes to food? I'm thinking about getting a dog and thus have been doing lots of research lately. During my research I have found tons of advocates for alternative foods (raw diet, etc) and generally they all agree that vet recommended foods (Science Diet, Royal Canin, etc) are a scam\/commie scheme aimed at annihilating all animal life on the planet and that the vets are in cahoots with the food companies raking in the billions.   Why is this? Is there any backing to their claims? Any research that shows these diets are healthier? I havent read up on much but I would think the logical thing to do would be to trust a Dr who wants what is best for the animal. Frankly its very irritating to think that people would take their animal to the vet for everything health related but when it comes to food they think they know better. Is it a control thing maybe?   I'm interested to see what actual vets think about these alternative foods and why so many people seem to be using them so much. What problems\/benefits are there? Why do so many vets recommend Hills\/Royal Canin foods","c_root_id_A":"cq644lr","c_root_id_B":"cq66fzc","created_at_utc_A":1428546657,"created_at_utc_B":1428550763,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"We have this link in the side bar, which gives a good overview of the current research on the topic. Those who advocate raw food usually didn't take the time to read it.  To a large degree, this is an internet-associated phenomenon. There are dog food rating sites run by people with no relevant qualifications that a lot of people believe, which base ratings on useless criteria such as total protein percentage or the order of ingredients on the label.   Psychologically speaking, it's a case of using meaningless, but nice-sounding buzzwords (natural, holistic, gentle, ...), adding a bit of a juicy conspiracy theory, and presenting themselves as the underdogs fighting some sort of evil big conglomerate, all of which has a certain appeal for the uninformed. I hate to say that this isn't limited to crackpots on the internet, there are even dog food manufacturers who use this *modus operandi* quite liberally (Blue Buffalo being the prime example).","human_ref_B":"There are tons of people who think that their vet (and doctor, but that's another matter altogether) is only concerned with repeat business, and that there's some conspiracy between everyone in the field to ensure an animal is completely dependent on \"big pharma\/medicine\".  And apparently, I'm in on it too.  Considering my compensation for my work in the field is exactly $0 (all volunteer, baby), the only possible answer is that I've been brainwashed by \"big veterinary\".   The simple reality of the matter is that there are few things as well tested as animal food, and for 99% of pets, the big brands are both safer and more nutritionally complete than anything you can whip up in the kitchen for Fido\/Fifi.  Natural (including raw) does not necessarily mean better.   I'm glad to see someone considering nutrition requirements *before* acquiring a pet, and being skeptical of the wealth of horrible opinions available on the internets. You're a step or 30 ahead of half of the internet already :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4106.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex9gwyo","c_root_id_B":"ex8i1fh","created_at_utc_A":1566088624,"created_at_utc_B":1566073546,"score_A":55,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"At the age your dog is surgery is really harsh, especially something that drastic. I would ask your vet what his prognosis is on how likely this will \"cure\" the cancer or if this is just a stop gap that will give you a little more time. Also, what type of cancer is it? There are certain types that are pretty aggressive that even cutting the leg off may not save the dog or even give him much more time (and maybe not even any quality time). You need to weigh how likely this will give your dog a good quality rest of life and how much of that quality of rest of life he'd get. I know you don't want to lose him, but you also need to think of if this is going to give him any quality time and if all the pain and uncomfort of surgery (There is also after care he will have to go through) will be worth what time it gives him.  I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but if it is that drastic for a dog that age, it may be time for the dog :(. Cancer is a \\*\\*\\*\\*.","human_ref_B":"You can look into various payment plans, but otherwise costs in vet med represent real world costs without insurance.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15078.0,"score_ratio":1.71875}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex9gwyo","c_root_id_B":"ex92885","created_at_utc_A":1566088624,"created_at_utc_B":1566082377,"score_A":55,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"At the age your dog is surgery is really harsh, especially something that drastic. I would ask your vet what his prognosis is on how likely this will \"cure\" the cancer or if this is just a stop gap that will give you a little more time. Also, what type of cancer is it? There are certain types that are pretty aggressive that even cutting the leg off may not save the dog or even give him much more time (and maybe not even any quality time). You need to weigh how likely this will give your dog a good quality rest of life and how much of that quality of rest of life he'd get. I know you don't want to lose him, but you also need to think of if this is going to give him any quality time and if all the pain and uncomfort of surgery (There is also after care he will have to go through) will be worth what time it gives him.  I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but if it is that drastic for a dog that age, it may be time for the dog :(. Cancer is a \\*\\*\\*\\*.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to be the devil's advocate but at the end of the day you need to discuss quality of life with your vet and make the best decision for your pet and for you financially.  I know it can be a difficult decision to make but you need to consider what's best for both of you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6247.0,"score_ratio":2.037037037}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex9gwyo","c_root_id_B":"ex8n8p0","created_at_utc_A":1566088624,"created_at_utc_B":1566075391,"score_A":55,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"At the age your dog is surgery is really harsh, especially something that drastic. I would ask your vet what his prognosis is on how likely this will \"cure\" the cancer or if this is just a stop gap that will give you a little more time. Also, what type of cancer is it? There are certain types that are pretty aggressive that even cutting the leg off may not save the dog or even give him much more time (and maybe not even any quality time). You need to weigh how likely this will give your dog a good quality rest of life and how much of that quality of rest of life he'd get. I know you don't want to lose him, but you also need to think of if this is going to give him any quality time and if all the pain and uncomfort of surgery (There is also after care he will have to go through) will be worth what time it gives him.  I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but if it is that drastic for a dog that age, it may be time for the dog :(. Cancer is a \\*\\*\\*\\*.","human_ref_B":"Check out every vet remotely near you.  Prices might vary tremendously.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13233.0,"score_ratio":3.2352941176}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex9gwyo","c_root_id_B":"ex93t3r","created_at_utc_A":1566088624,"created_at_utc_B":1566083088,"score_A":55,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"At the age your dog is surgery is really harsh, especially something that drastic. I would ask your vet what his prognosis is on how likely this will \"cure\" the cancer or if this is just a stop gap that will give you a little more time. Also, what type of cancer is it? There are certain types that are pretty aggressive that even cutting the leg off may not save the dog or even give him much more time (and maybe not even any quality time). You need to weigh how likely this will give your dog a good quality rest of life and how much of that quality of rest of life he'd get. I know you don't want to lose him, but you also need to think of if this is going to give him any quality time and if all the pain and uncomfort of surgery (There is also after care he will have to go through) will be worth what time it gives him.  I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but if it is that drastic for a dog that age, it may be time for the dog :(. Cancer is a \\*\\*\\*\\*.","human_ref_B":"Scratchpay is really helpful if it's available in CA. It's a loan.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5536.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex8n8p0","c_root_id_B":"ex92885","created_at_utc_A":1566075391,"created_at_utc_B":1566082377,"score_A":17,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Check out every vet remotely near you.  Prices might vary tremendously.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to be the devil's advocate but at the end of the day you need to discuss quality of life with your vet and make the best decision for your pet and for you financially.  I know it can be a difficult decision to make but you need to consider what's best for both of you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6986.0,"score_ratio":1.5882352941}
{"post_id":"crqkpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog has been diagnosed with Cancer I really need some financial options here. Patches has been my best friend since I was seven, and after getting an XRAY yesterday I've been told he needs his right leg amputated. He is lazy and tired but still so lively and friendly.   Amputation at my current vet will cost $2500. I can't afford it even remotely.  Species: Canine  Age: 14 years Sex: Neutered Male Breed: Shih Tzu Body Weight: 18 pounds History: Issues with gallbladder, vomits bile if not fed in a timely manner. Occasional hotspots. General Age problems.   Clinical Signs: Limping back right leg, loss of muscle mass.  Duration: Just over a month  General Location: Greater Toronto Area, ON, Canada","c_root_id_A":"ex93t3r","c_root_id_B":"ex9v2o4","created_at_utc_A":1566083088,"created_at_utc_B":1566094798,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Scratchpay is really helpful if it's available in CA. It's a loan.","human_ref_B":"for they give you a specific diagnosis, run any bloodwork, or  a chest x ray to look for metastasis?  As others have said, you should discuss the range of treatment options and quality of life they can provide with your vet. How well he would do with an amputation depends greatly on the type and stage of his cancer, his age, his overall body condition and health. Consider that amputation means recovery time and additional vet care and costs will still be incurred. Care credit is a financial resource to look into, but I would discuss all your options first. You can also ask to be referred to an oncologist where they can more thoroughly explain treatments and expected outcomes. Even if you don\u2019t elect a surgical or chemo or radiation therapy, your vet can still help give you options to  help keep your pet comfortable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11710.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"cw3vjh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet prescribed Metronitozole to tackle my cat\u2019s diarrhea. We\u2019re on day 5 of a 10 day regimen and not seeing any improvements. Should I take her back to the vet today or wait out the whole ten days before going again? Species: Cat  Age: 16  Sex\/Neuter status: Neutered  Breed:Domestic Short Hair  Body weight: 5.5 lbs  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration: 2 weeks  Your general location: Tampa, FL  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:  Her previous treatment they tried was with probiotic packets on her food. The switched over to the antibiotic pills but she is still having diarrhea and unable to control her bowels. Just going wherever she happens to be when the call strikes.   Giving her the dosage twice a day but not seeing any improvement.","c_root_id_A":"ey8fljh","c_root_id_B":"ey8hky5","created_at_utc_A":1566918966,"created_at_utc_B":1566920262,"score_A":11,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Go back. metro and the probiotics should have stopped it quickly.","human_ref_B":"Yes. It is time to do more aggressive diagnostic testing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1296.0,"score_ratio":1.3636363636}
{"post_id":"9fxru6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"e602i16","c_root_id_B":"e6027n6","created_at_utc_A":1536978705,"created_at_utc_B":1536978348,"score_A":42,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Forced feeding or drinking without medical advice can do more damage than good.   This cat may be suffering. You should visit a vet immediately.   If costs are a problem, call ahead and let them know your situation. Some vets will work with good samaritans.","human_ref_B":"Take her to a veterinarian as soon as you can. They can assess how bad her condition is and give you instructions on what to do next.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":357.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"w1vwm8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My 12 year old cat has extremely flaky skin and thinning fur which was ignored by vets As the title says my 12 year old, 11.5lb female cat has been having flaky skin for the past month or so, she had previously had greasy, clumping fur maybe 3-4 months ago which went away after changing flea medicine, other than that she's never had health problems. I took her to the vet (in America) 3 weeks ago to see about the flaky skin, the vet said that she was extremely healthy and that the flaking skin and thinning fur was likely just due to her age despite it's relative severity. Since then it's gotten slowly worse mainly on her back and neck and she also seems more lethargic than usual (though this is fairly normal for her in summer so I can't say if it's related) Regardless I'm very worried for her due to her age and if there's anything serious I want to know so I can get it treated early. Any suggests are much appreciated!","c_root_id_A":"ignq4q3","c_root_id_B":"ignea3w","created_at_utc_A":1658161129,"created_at_utc_B":1658156363,"score_A":12,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Was any bloodwork run during that vet visit?  If not, I highly recommend having some run to rule out any underlying systemic issues that wouldn't be apparent on a visual exam alone.","human_ref_B":"Get a second opinion","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4766.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c69ui","c_root_id_B":"e2c675p","created_at_utc_A":1531511438,"created_at_utc_B":1531511376,"score_A":34,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I think just about any dog is at maximum happiness when they are with their owner, exploring someplace new. Note that if he's never been to the beach he may be afraid of the noise.  If he's really uncomfortable the perfect answer may be just staying home with him and your dad and giving him lots of attention.  Good luck. Your post is a real tear jerker.","human_ref_B":"Sorry you're going through this.  I think he'll just want to cuddle a lot with you, I think going to other places might be more special for you than him maybe? Does he have a place he particularly likes? Let him eat anything he wants, and more. Toys he loves, lots of those. May the memories you have carry you through the tough days.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":62.0,"score_ratio":3.7777777778}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c69ui","c_root_id_B":"e2c61be","created_at_utc_A":1531511438,"created_at_utc_B":1531511242,"score_A":34,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I think just about any dog is at maximum happiness when they are with their owner, exploring someplace new. Note that if he's never been to the beach he may be afraid of the noise.  If he's really uncomfortable the perfect answer may be just staying home with him and your dad and giving him lots of attention.  Good luck. Your post is a real tear jerker.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to hear that you guys have to go through this \u2764\ufe0f what you have planned sounds wonderful. Just spoil the heck out of him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":196.0,"score_ratio":6.8}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c69ui","c_root_id_B":"e2c66tc","created_at_utc_A":1531511438,"created_at_utc_B":1531511368,"score_A":34,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I think just about any dog is at maximum happiness when they are with their owner, exploring someplace new. Note that if he's never been to the beach he may be afraid of the noise.  If he's really uncomfortable the perfect answer may be just staying home with him and your dad and giving him lots of attention.  Good luck. Your post is a real tear jerker.","human_ref_B":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":70.0,"score_ratio":17.0}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c675p","c_root_id_B":"e2c8oz9","created_at_utc_A":1531511376,"created_at_utc_B":1531513468,"score_A":9,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Sorry you're going through this.  I think he'll just want to cuddle a lot with you, I think going to other places might be more special for you than him maybe? Does he have a place he particularly likes? Let him eat anything he wants, and more. Toys he loves, lots of those. May the memories you have carry you through the tough days.","human_ref_B":"I cooked a chicken breast for the last dog I had to say goodbye to, and minced it into small pieces and feed her from my hand. She had been too sick to eat for a while, but she loved the hand feeding. Hold him, love him, savor every precious minute, then release him from his suffering. I'm crying tears for you both.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2092.0,"score_ratio":2.5555555556}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c8oz9","c_root_id_B":"e2c61be","created_at_utc_A":1531513468,"created_at_utc_B":1531511242,"score_A":23,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I cooked a chicken breast for the last dog I had to say goodbye to, and minced it into small pieces and feed her from my hand. She had been too sick to eat for a while, but she loved the hand feeding. Hold him, love him, savor every precious minute, then release him from his suffering. I'm crying tears for you both.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to hear that you guys have to go through this \u2764\ufe0f what you have planned sounds wonderful. Just spoil the heck out of him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2226.0,"score_ratio":4.6}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c8oz9","c_root_id_B":"e2c6qo9","created_at_utc_A":1531513468,"created_at_utc_B":1531511829,"score_A":23,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I cooked a chicken breast for the last dog I had to say goodbye to, and minced it into small pieces and feed her from my hand. She had been too sick to eat for a while, but she loved the hand feeding. Hold him, love him, savor every precious minute, then release him from his suffering. I'm crying tears for you both.","human_ref_B":"You should bake a dog cake!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1639.0,"score_ratio":7.6666666667}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2c8oz9","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531513468,"score_A":2,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"I cooked a chicken breast for the last dog I had to say goodbye to, and minced it into small pieces and feed her from my hand. She had been too sick to eat for a while, but she loved the hand feeding. Hold him, love him, savor every precious minute, then release him from his suffering. I'm crying tears for you both.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2100.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c675p","c_root_id_B":"e2c9d6c","created_at_utc_A":1531511376,"created_at_utc_B":1531514040,"score_A":9,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Sorry you're going through this.  I think he'll just want to cuddle a lot with you, I think going to other places might be more special for you than him maybe? Does he have a place he particularly likes? Let him eat anything he wants, and more. Toys he loves, lots of those. May the memories you have carry you through the tough days.","human_ref_B":"I can empathize with how devastating this is. I had to euthanize my beloved lab\/golden mix in May, due to a mast cell tumor. I'm still grieving every single day, but it's gotten a little easier to cope.  Some things to think about; how comfortable will a 3 hour (round trip) car ride be for him? At the end of our girl's life, she would have been miserable with a drive that lengthy..  Will the ride make him nauseous? How much time will you have to spend at the beach before turning around to go home?  If it's just an hour or 2, is it worth the drive to get there? It may be worth considering a place more local, where you both spent time together and have fond memories?  In that way,  you'll have 3 extra hours to spend one on one, that you would have otherwise spent driving. The extra treats sound great. My vet gave the ok to indulge in goodies for our girl too,  but cautioned me not to feed anything too rich for fear that they might upset  her stomach.    I'm so sorry that you have to make this incredibly painful decision.  Bless you for giving your pup such a wonderful life. You'll be able to carry the love that he gave to you for the rest of your own life. XO","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2664.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c9d6c","c_root_id_B":"e2c61be","created_at_utc_A":1531514040,"created_at_utc_B":1531511242,"score_A":12,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I can empathize with how devastating this is. I had to euthanize my beloved lab\/golden mix in May, due to a mast cell tumor. I'm still grieving every single day, but it's gotten a little easier to cope.  Some things to think about; how comfortable will a 3 hour (round trip) car ride be for him? At the end of our girl's life, she would have been miserable with a drive that lengthy..  Will the ride make him nauseous? How much time will you have to spend at the beach before turning around to go home?  If it's just an hour or 2, is it worth the drive to get there? It may be worth considering a place more local, where you both spent time together and have fond memories?  In that way,  you'll have 3 extra hours to spend one on one, that you would have otherwise spent driving. The extra treats sound great. My vet gave the ok to indulge in goodies for our girl too,  but cautioned me not to feed anything too rich for fear that they might upset  her stomach.    I'm so sorry that you have to make this incredibly painful decision.  Bless you for giving your pup such a wonderful life. You'll be able to carry the love that he gave to you for the rest of your own life. XO","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to hear that you guys have to go through this \u2764\ufe0f what you have planned sounds wonderful. Just spoil the heck out of him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2798.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c6qo9","c_root_id_B":"e2c9d6c","created_at_utc_A":1531511829,"created_at_utc_B":1531514040,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You should bake a dog cake!","human_ref_B":"I can empathize with how devastating this is. I had to euthanize my beloved lab\/golden mix in May, due to a mast cell tumor. I'm still grieving every single day, but it's gotten a little easier to cope.  Some things to think about; how comfortable will a 3 hour (round trip) car ride be for him? At the end of our girl's life, she would have been miserable with a drive that lengthy..  Will the ride make him nauseous? How much time will you have to spend at the beach before turning around to go home?  If it's just an hour or 2, is it worth the drive to get there? It may be worth considering a place more local, where you both spent time together and have fond memories?  In that way,  you'll have 3 extra hours to spend one on one, that you would have otherwise spent driving. The extra treats sound great. My vet gave the ok to indulge in goodies for our girl too,  but cautioned me not to feed anything too rich for fear that they might upset  her stomach.    I'm so sorry that you have to make this incredibly painful decision.  Bless you for giving your pup such a wonderful life. You'll be able to carry the love that he gave to you for the rest of your own life. XO","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2211.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c9d6c","c_root_id_B":"e2c66tc","created_at_utc_A":1531514040,"created_at_utc_B":1531511368,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I can empathize with how devastating this is. I had to euthanize my beloved lab\/golden mix in May, due to a mast cell tumor. I'm still grieving every single day, but it's gotten a little easier to cope.  Some things to think about; how comfortable will a 3 hour (round trip) car ride be for him? At the end of our girl's life, she would have been miserable with a drive that lengthy..  Will the ride make him nauseous? How much time will you have to spend at the beach before turning around to go home?  If it's just an hour or 2, is it worth the drive to get there? It may be worth considering a place more local, where you both spent time together and have fond memories?  In that way,  you'll have 3 extra hours to spend one on one, that you would have otherwise spent driving. The extra treats sound great. My vet gave the ok to indulge in goodies for our girl too,  but cautioned me not to feed anything too rich for fear that they might upset  her stomach.    I'm so sorry that you have to make this incredibly painful decision.  Bless you for giving your pup such a wonderful life. You'll be able to carry the love that he gave to you for the rest of your own life. XO","human_ref_B":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2672.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c675p","c_root_id_B":"e2c61be","created_at_utc_A":1531511376,"created_at_utc_B":1531511242,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Sorry you're going through this.  I think he'll just want to cuddle a lot with you, I think going to other places might be more special for you than him maybe? Does he have a place he particularly likes? Let him eat anything he wants, and more. Toys he loves, lots of those. May the memories you have carry you through the tough days.","human_ref_B":"I'm sorry to hear that you guys have to go through this \u2764\ufe0f what you have planned sounds wonderful. Just spoil the heck out of him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":134.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2c675p","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531511376,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"Sorry you're going through this.  I think he'll just want to cuddle a lot with you, I think going to other places might be more special for you than him maybe? Does he have a place he particularly likes? Let him eat anything he wants, and more. Toys he loves, lots of those. May the memories you have carry you through the tough days.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c6qo9","c_root_id_B":"e2ckxsa","created_at_utc_A":1531511829,"created_at_utc_B":1531524946,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"You should bake a dog cake!","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry. I can\u2019t imagine how devastating this must be. I think the beach is a great idea, he may not be able to run around and swim, but it\u2019s such a serene place to be. Feed him his favourite foods, do his favourite things. He will let you know when it\u2019s time - maybe it will be a look, maybe an action. You know him better than anyone. Sending you and your precious pooch love.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13117.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2cggjr","c_root_id_B":"e2ckxsa","created_at_utc_A":1531520441,"created_at_utc_B":1531524946,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry, cancer fucking sucks! Lost a few of my greatest puppers to it. Do you have a wagon? Maybe a nice slow wagon ride would be a nice way to spend time together without having him wanting to move around.. Definitely have a nice picnic or something outside with his favorite treats.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry. I can\u2019t imagine how devastating this must be. I think the beach is a great idea, he may not be able to run around and swim, but it\u2019s such a serene place to be. Feed him his favourite foods, do his favourite things. He will let you know when it\u2019s time - maybe it will be a look, maybe an action. You know him better than anyone. Sending you and your precious pooch love.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4505.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2ckxsa","c_root_id_B":"e2c66tc","created_at_utc_A":1531524946,"created_at_utc_B":1531511368,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry. I can\u2019t imagine how devastating this must be. I think the beach is a great idea, he may not be able to run around and swim, but it\u2019s such a serene place to be. Feed him his favourite foods, do his favourite things. He will let you know when it\u2019s time - maybe it will be a look, maybe an action. You know him better than anyone. Sending you and your precious pooch love.","human_ref_B":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13578.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2c6qo9","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531511829,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"You should bake a dog cake!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":461.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2cggjr","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531520441,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry, cancer fucking sucks! Lost a few of my greatest puppers to it. Do you have a wagon? Maybe a nice slow wagon ride would be a nice way to spend time together without having him wanting to move around.. Definitely have a nice picnic or something outside with his favorite treats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9073.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2cn4po","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531527277,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"It may be uncomfortable if he has an exposed wound in the salty air. My dogs love nothing more than burger king burgers. Let him eat bacon cheeseburgers, and give yourself a day or two off work after he crosses the bridge.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15909.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2cny9n","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531528162,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"Be sure to talk with your dog.  They understand tone of voice.  Pour out your love and gratitude.  Tell your dog that some of his siblings will probably be wagging butt to see him soon.  3 hours in the bouncing car might be hard on him, but would be great for you to be to turn loose your grief.  Any place closer that is almost as cool and just as private?  I'm so sorry that you have to go through this hard duty.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16794.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8ymaog","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Going to have to put my dog down soon (next 2-3 days) after discovering he has osteosarcoma. Pretty devastated. Any ideas for what I can do to make his last few days special for him? Breed: Vizsla  Age: 9 Years I live an hour and a half away from the beach in Oregon and I\u2019m thinking about taking him to the coast tomorrow since I have the day off and the weather is going to be great. I\u2019ll have to carry him since he has declined so fast within the last week and can barely walk but it won\u2019t be an issue for me. Got the results today that it\u2019s cancer. Incredibly unexpected. It\u2019s so bad in his leg that his skin is starting to split. Honestly the most loving dog I\u2019ve ever had (I\u2019ve had lots) and it pains me to see him in this shape. Named him after the TV show Dexter when we got him when I was 12. Saw him in the window of a shitty animal store (long closed down due to abuse) and we had to take him. From the start he was nothing but pure love and was definitely my dads dog. He slept with him just about every single night of his life. It was routine. Dexter loved to sleep under the blankets and would hit you if you dared to not give him love when he was in front of you. He would give you almost human like hugs and lay his head on my shoulder when watching tv. Nothing but 100% love in him. I\u2019m gonna miss him. My dad said it\u2019s up to me when to put him down and I want to do it by Sunday evening to put him out of pain.  My question for you guys is what I can do to make his last few days special? I get off work tonight at 730 and want the weekend to be for him. So far I have the beach trip and some burgers and ice cream planned for my buddy. Looking forward to your recommendations.  Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"e2c66tc","c_root_id_B":"e2co7u3","created_at_utc_A":1531511368,"created_at_utc_B":1531528451,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I think your idea of taking him to the beach with burgers and ice cream is wonderful!! Just spend the time you have left showering him with love. He'll be happy as long as he's with you","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry to hear this horrible news. Depending on how he feels, he may just want to cuddle with you at home.   If he has a favorite food, serve it. Cherish the time you have and give yourself a day or two after he passes to self care. I couldn't stop crying for the first day when I had to euthanize my senior cat.  Big hugs!   You're doing the humane thing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17083.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1sxvtt","c_root_id_B":"e1sxl74","created_at_utc_A":1530746653,"created_at_utc_B":1530746317,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry.   He may enjoy some cheese, just not too much of it because cats are lactose intolerant. Otherwise the walks seem like a great idea as well as as much cuddle time as possible. Maybe offer him a warm blanket of some sort.","human_ref_B":"\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17","labels":1,"seconds_difference":336.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1t9stv","c_root_id_B":"e1tbhpu","created_at_utc_A":1530760482,"created_at_utc_B":1530762490,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.","human_ref_B":"My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2008.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1t9stv","c_root_id_B":"e1sxl74","created_at_utc_A":1530760482,"created_at_utc_B":1530746317,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.","human_ref_B":"\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14165.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1tbhpu","c_root_id_B":"e1sxl74","created_at_utc_A":1530762490,"created_at_utc_B":1530746317,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.","human_ref_B":"\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16173.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1sxl74","c_root_id_B":"e1tiztk","created_at_utc_A":1530746317,"created_at_utc_B":1530773475,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17","human_ref_B":"My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A\/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27158.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"8w4fmk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.","c_root_id_A":"e1thbj3","c_root_id_B":"e1tiztk","created_at_utc_A":1530770657,"created_at_utc_B":1530773475,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I am so sorry for your impending loss. I went through the same thing with my 16 year old kitty a few years ago. At home is definitely much less stressful for human and kitty, I'm glad you were able to arrange that.    I got her some fresh salmon, loved on her as much as possible. She was going through kidney failure, so she wasn't eating much, but she did enjoy the fresh fishy.  The vet also gave me some pain medication for her, administered through a dropper.  In the hours leading up to the appointment, I put on some calming classical music and a Youtube video of a cat purring to soothe her.","human_ref_B":"My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A\/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2818.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0lp6lk","c_root_id_B":"f0loie0","created_at_utc_A":1568725826,"created_at_utc_B":1568725249,"score_A":117,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"When you consider that the two alternatives essentially are either that he dies by drowning from the inside (can you imagine how frightening?), possibly frightened and alone vs peacefully and painlessly with you right by his side, I don't think that letting him go \"naturally\" should even be a consideration if euthanasia is an option for you.  This is a gift that you can give him. He's not afraid of death; all he knows is you, your love, and how he's feeling. If you are worried that taking him to the doctor for this will make him scared, talk to your doctor about options for having this procedure done at home. I do a lot a euthanasia in home and contrary to what you may believe, this is something that I view as a gift that we can give our pets.  The fact that you're even asking about this and are concerned tells me how much you love your dog. Death is inevitable, for your dog and for all of us. A painless death surrounded by loved ones is a final gesture of love.   You should talk to your veterinarian about the specifics regarding your pup, and can get moor support with this difficult decision here at the Argus Institute   Best wishes.","human_ref_B":"I had to put my girl down in June, she was 14. I feel your pain. I know that she didn't suffer and that was my #1 concern. I held her the whole time. She licked the tears rolling down my face. It was honestly the sweetest moment. I remember the 14 amazing years that I was blessed to have her. I never cried again once I left the vet. I decided to stay positive and appreciate the memories that I have of her. The vet sent me a touching card w a handwritten note telling me how I made the right decision. She was beginning the stages of kidney failure. My sister's dog is currently going through the same issue but that bitch keeps pumping her dog full of fluids which is only prolonging the inevitable. Let your baby go out w dignity and please do not let your baby experience the pain of not being able to breathe. I did what I would want done for myself. Prayers are sent to you in this difficult time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":577.0,"score_ratio":10.6363636364}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0lp6lk","c_root_id_B":"f0lnlia","created_at_utc_A":1568725826,"created_at_utc_B":1568724453,"score_A":117,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"When you consider that the two alternatives essentially are either that he dies by drowning from the inside (can you imagine how frightening?), possibly frightened and alone vs peacefully and painlessly with you right by his side, I don't think that letting him go \"naturally\" should even be a consideration if euthanasia is an option for you.  This is a gift that you can give him. He's not afraid of death; all he knows is you, your love, and how he's feeling. If you are worried that taking him to the doctor for this will make him scared, talk to your doctor about options for having this procedure done at home. I do a lot a euthanasia in home and contrary to what you may believe, this is something that I view as a gift that we can give our pets.  The fact that you're even asking about this and are concerned tells me how much you love your dog. Death is inevitable, for your dog and for all of us. A painless death surrounded by loved ones is a final gesture of love.   You should talk to your veterinarian about the specifics regarding your pup, and can get moor support with this difficult decision here at the Argus Institute   Best wishes.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you and your pup are going through this. If your dog is suffering the kindest thing you can to is let him go. Making this decision is the hardest part of being a dog owner and the fact that you\u2019re struggling so much with it shows how much you love him. You are not betraying him, you are loving him to the end. In my experience, it is peaceful for them. A sedative is given first and then the drug to stop their heart. Discuss the options with your vet and make the decision you feel is right for him. You know him best. I hope whichever one you make, you eventually feel peace with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1373.0,"score_ratio":29.25}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0lpd5l","c_root_id_B":"f0loie0","created_at_utc_A":1568725982,"created_at_utc_B":1568725249,"score_A":36,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry you're going through this.  No matter how many times we experience loss, and we all do, it never gets easier, never.  One and two don't sound like good options for your best friend.  Not being able to catch your breath is a very distressing experience, especially for our pets.  They just don't understand.    It can be very difficult to feel as if you are responsible for his passing.  Of course it is, you love him, and your life is complicated by conflicting feelings and beliefs.  But allowing him to go peacefully is the greatest gift you can give him at this time.  Sometimes we must take their pain on ourselves so they no longer have to suffer.  And while it weighs heavily upon us that we could begin this process and somehow be responsible, in reality, what we do is release them from a state of confusion and pain and suffering.  When I take care of a pet like yours, I first give him a heavy dose of sedation so that he is on cloud 9 and no longer feels distress and no longer feels pain.  It is like him getting a vaccine, and it doesn't hurt.  Then I like to let you talk to him, feed him his favorite thing, and wait as he falls asleep in your arms.  At that point, he is sitting with you on the beach or chasing squirrels or chowing down on a huge bowl of steak;  he doesn't feel stress or pain.  Then we say goodbye, and he receives a second injection.    There are services that can come to your house to make it even more peaceful.   And I know it is hard, I know it is, I have gone through it many times with my own pets.  But it is better to say goodbye one day too soon than one day too late.  If he still seems like a happy little guy but is struggling the way you describe, you don't want to wait until he is an unhappy little guy.","human_ref_B":"I had to put my girl down in June, she was 14. I feel your pain. I know that she didn't suffer and that was my #1 concern. I held her the whole time. She licked the tears rolling down my face. It was honestly the sweetest moment. I remember the 14 amazing years that I was blessed to have her. I never cried again once I left the vet. I decided to stay positive and appreciate the memories that I have of her. The vet sent me a touching card w a handwritten note telling me how I made the right decision. She was beginning the stages of kidney failure. My sister's dog is currently going through the same issue but that bitch keeps pumping her dog full of fluids which is only prolonging the inevitable. Let your baby go out w dignity and please do not let your baby experience the pain of not being able to breathe. I did what I would want done for myself. Prayers are sent to you in this difficult time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":733.0,"score_ratio":3.2727272727}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0lpd5l","c_root_id_B":"f0lnlia","created_at_utc_A":1568725982,"created_at_utc_B":1568724453,"score_A":36,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry you're going through this.  No matter how many times we experience loss, and we all do, it never gets easier, never.  One and two don't sound like good options for your best friend.  Not being able to catch your breath is a very distressing experience, especially for our pets.  They just don't understand.    It can be very difficult to feel as if you are responsible for his passing.  Of course it is, you love him, and your life is complicated by conflicting feelings and beliefs.  But allowing him to go peacefully is the greatest gift you can give him at this time.  Sometimes we must take their pain on ourselves so they no longer have to suffer.  And while it weighs heavily upon us that we could begin this process and somehow be responsible, in reality, what we do is release them from a state of confusion and pain and suffering.  When I take care of a pet like yours, I first give him a heavy dose of sedation so that he is on cloud 9 and no longer feels distress and no longer feels pain.  It is like him getting a vaccine, and it doesn't hurt.  Then I like to let you talk to him, feed him his favorite thing, and wait as he falls asleep in your arms.  At that point, he is sitting with you on the beach or chasing squirrels or chowing down on a huge bowl of steak;  he doesn't feel stress or pain.  Then we say goodbye, and he receives a second injection.    There are services that can come to your house to make it even more peaceful.   And I know it is hard, I know it is, I have gone through it many times with my own pets.  But it is better to say goodbye one day too soon than one day too late.  If he still seems like a happy little guy but is struggling the way you describe, you don't want to wait until he is an unhappy little guy.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you and your pup are going through this. If your dog is suffering the kindest thing you can to is let him go. Making this decision is the hardest part of being a dog owner and the fact that you\u2019re struggling so much with it shows how much you love him. You are not betraying him, you are loving him to the end. In my experience, it is peaceful for them. A sedative is given first and then the drug to stop their heart. Discuss the options with your vet and make the decision you feel is right for him. You know him best. I hope whichever one you make, you eventually feel peace with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1529.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0lnlia","c_root_id_B":"f0loie0","created_at_utc_A":1568724453,"created_at_utc_B":1568725249,"score_A":4,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry you and your pup are going through this. If your dog is suffering the kindest thing you can to is let him go. Making this decision is the hardest part of being a dog owner and the fact that you\u2019re struggling so much with it shows how much you love him. You are not betraying him, you are loving him to the end. In my experience, it is peaceful for them. A sedative is given first and then the drug to stop their heart. Discuss the options with your vet and make the decision you feel is right for him. You know him best. I hope whichever one you make, you eventually feel peace with.","human_ref_B":"I had to put my girl down in June, she was 14. I feel your pain. I know that she didn't suffer and that was my #1 concern. I held her the whole time. She licked the tears rolling down my face. It was honestly the sweetest moment. I remember the 14 amazing years that I was blessed to have her. I never cried again once I left the vet. I decided to stay positive and appreciate the memories that I have of her. The vet sent me a touching card w a handwritten note telling me how I made the right decision. She was beginning the stages of kidney failure. My sister's dog is currently going through the same issue but that bitch keeps pumping her dog full of fluids which is only prolonging the inevitable. Let your baby go out w dignity and please do not let your baby experience the pain of not being able to breathe. I did what I would want done for myself. Prayers are sent to you in this difficult time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":796.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"d5esdo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"We need to put down my dog soon Hello, please guys, help me.  My dog has a hereditary illness, his heart is very big, the arteries are enlarged also, and there\u2019s water on his lungs. Sometimes, he gasps for air, and can only sleep on his stomach due to his heart beating so hard that it\u2019s uncomfortable for him. We can\u2019t take him to big fun walks like we used to.  We have three choices. 1. Wait until his heart gives in 2. He may suffocate because of the water on his lungs (to witch he gets medication to drain the water) 3. Or put him down and let him go peacefully. The thing is, i don\u2019t want him to suffer, but i feel like i\u2019m killing my best friend with my own hands if i take him to get him put down. I feel like i\u2019m betraying him, like i\u2019m commiting a huge sin. I can\u2019t comprehend the thought. Do you guys think he knows where i\u2019m taking him, if i take him to be put down? Will he feel pain? The thing is, he\u2019s still a happy lil guy, but he\u2019s uncomfortable living like this, i can see that. How do i do this, i\u2019m so lost. Please share your experiences with me!  Thank you in advance !","c_root_id_A":"f0m4ph4","c_root_id_B":"f0lnlia","created_at_utc_A":1568736724,"created_at_utc_B":1568724453,"score_A":11,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life.  There is absolutely nothing peaceful about what we euphemistically call \"natural death\". Keep in mind that your dog has no understanding of his own mortality, but he most definitely has an understanding of feeling lousy without knowing why. If suffering is all that is left, there really is no point in letting things play out \"naturally\" and making your dog suffer for longer than necessary.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry you and your pup are going through this. If your dog is suffering the kindest thing you can to is let him go. Making this decision is the hardest part of being a dog owner and the fact that you\u2019re struggling so much with it shows how much you love him. You are not betraying him, you are loving him to the end. In my experience, it is peaceful for them. A sedative is given first and then the drug to stop their heart. Discuss the options with your vet and make the decision you feel is right for him. You know him best. I hope whichever one you make, you eventually feel peace with.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12271.0,"score_ratio":2.75}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8whptu","c_root_id_B":"h8w54ge","created_at_utc_A":1628943100,"created_at_utc_B":1628932974,"score_A":73,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"If they use a human urine drug screen test, it's not very accurate for animals. It tests for metabolites of different substances, but humans and dogs metabolize things differently, so different metabolites. You sound like a very conscientious owner, and it's more likely that the test is wrong than you buying laced marijuana from the government.  Ataxia (instability), hyperasthesia (over reactions to noises and movement), and dribbling urine are classic signs of marijuana toxicity and with small doses they recover fine with supportive care.  Most likely she'll be ready to go home this morning and be mostly back to her normal self.","human_ref_B":"The pills that you used to take though, you did not say what they were. Were they opioids?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10126.0,"score_ratio":4.0555555556}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8vq4jc","c_root_id_B":"h8whptu","created_at_utc_A":1628920775,"created_at_utc_B":1628943100,"score_A":3,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","human_ref_B":"If they use a human urine drug screen test, it's not very accurate for animals. It tests for metabolites of different substances, but humans and dogs metabolize things differently, so different metabolites. You sound like a very conscientious owner, and it's more likely that the test is wrong than you buying laced marijuana from the government.  Ataxia (instability), hyperasthesia (over reactions to noises and movement), and dribbling urine are classic signs of marijuana toxicity and with small doses they recover fine with supportive care.  Most likely she'll be ready to go home this morning and be mostly back to her normal self.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22325.0,"score_ratio":24.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8w54ge","c_root_id_B":"h8wu1ir","created_at_utc_A":1628932974,"created_at_utc_B":1628950014,"score_A":18,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"The pills that you used to take though, you did not say what they were. Were they opioids?","human_ref_B":"Human drug tests have not been validated in animals and false positives and negatives are pretty common.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17040.0,"score_ratio":1.7222222222}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8vq4jc","c_root_id_B":"h8wu1ir","created_at_utc_A":1628920775,"created_at_utc_B":1628950014,"score_A":3,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","human_ref_B":"Human drug tests have not been validated in animals and false positives and negatives are pretty common.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29239.0,"score_ratio":10.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8w54ge","c_root_id_B":"h8xmeky","created_at_utc_A":1628932974,"created_at_utc_B":1628962548,"score_A":18,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"The pills that you used to take though, you did not say what they were. Were they opioids?","human_ref_B":"You don't have those drugs but does your partner?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29574.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8vq4jc","c_root_id_B":"h8xmeky","created_at_utc_A":1628920775,"created_at_utc_B":1628962548,"score_A":3,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","human_ref_B":"You don't have those drugs but does your partner?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":41773.0,"score_ratio":8.6666666667}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8w54ge","c_root_id_B":"h8vq4jc","created_at_utc_A":1628932974,"created_at_utc_B":1628920775,"score_A":18,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"The pills that you used to take though, you did not say what they were. Were they opioids?","human_ref_B":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12199.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8vq4jc","c_root_id_B":"h8y91px","created_at_utc_A":1628920775,"created_at_utc_B":1628972739,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","human_ref_B":"If the tests showed signs of those drugs, and you have those exact drugs at your house\u2026 what\u2019s the simplest explanation here?  It\u2019s more than possible that you or your partner or someone dropped these meds, and your dog ate them.  It may be hard to believe, but it makes the most sense.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":51964.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8xnp6w","c_root_id_B":"h8y91px","created_at_utc_A":1628963108,"created_at_utc_B":1628972739,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"## DRUG SCREENING: RAPID TEST KITS VS GC\/MS AND LC\/MS\/MS  I develop validated, multi-drug screening test methods for use by clinical toxicologists, so my experience has more to do with the test methods for use on humans than the toxicological mechanisms themselves.  Ask your vet what test they used to perform the drug exposure assessment. Most likely, they used an OTC or \"rapid test\" for humans, and as one of the other posters here noted, those tests are not validated for use in animals.  The current gold standard for toxicological drug screening is gas chromatography coupled to mass spectrometry (GC\/MS), but, over time, liquid chromatography coupled to a multi-dimensional mass spectrometer (LC\/MS\/MS) will eventually become the gold standard.  In my expert opinion, I prefer LC\/MS\/MS because the sample preparation is simpler, but, in terms of quality of results, I am much more trusting of test results obtained with GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS than those obtained via rapid test kits, which have much more limited diagnostic utility due to high rates of false positives and false negatives coupled with low population prevalence.  If your vet did use an OTC or rapid test\u2014which is almost certain, since a vet's office will almost surely not have a GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS system\u2014then they will have missed detection of exposure to marijuana, THC, CBD, or related compounds (see references below).  ## TOXICITY OF THC EXPOSURE IN DOGS Although THC and the other metabolites in the cannabis plant have a wide margin of safety (MoS)\u2014which is also known as the \"*therapeutic window*\"\u2014in animals (*i.e.* the ratio of the lethal concentration divided by the minimum therapeutic concentration), the LD50 for THC in dogs is not well-established (see references below). Also, there is a lot of literature showing that toxic exposures of marijuana and related compounds in dogs has increased in states where marijuana has been legalized (see references below).  ## CITATIONS 1. Fitzgerald AH, Zhang Y, Fritz S, Whitehouse WH, Brabson T, Pohlman L, *et al.* **Detecting and quantifying marijuana metabolites in serum and urine of 19 dogs affected by marijuana toxicity**. *J VET Diagn Invest* [Internet]. 2021 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];33(5):1002\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1177\/10406387211027227>  2. McDermott FM, Henriksson AE, Wismer TA. **Heroin intoxication in a dog**. *Veterinary Record Case Reports* [Internet]. 2021 May 8 [cited 2021 Aug 14];n\/a(n\/a):e83. Available from: <https:\/\/bvajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1002\/vrc2.83>  3. Howard-Azzeh M, Pearl DL, Swirski A, Ward M, Hovdey R, O\u2019Sullivan TL, *et al.* **The impact of state cannabis legislation, county-level socioeconomic and dog-level characteristics on reported cannabis poisonings of companion dogs in the USA** (2009\u20132014). *PLOS ONE* [Internet]. 2021 Apr 16 [cited 2021 Aug 14];16(4):e0250323. Available from: <https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0250323>  4. Bertero A, Fossati P, Caloni F. **Indoor poisoning of companion animals by chemicals**. *Science of The Total Environment* [Internet]. 2020 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];733:139366. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0048969720328837>  5. Kelmer E, Shimshoni JA, Merbl Y, Kolski O, Klainbart S. **Use of gas chromatography\u2013mass spectrometry for definitive diagnosis of synthetic cannabinoid toxicity in a dog**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2019 [cited 2021 Aug 14];29(5):573\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/vec.12872>  6. Brutlag A, Hommerding H. **Toxicology of Marijuana, Synthetic Cannabinoids, and Cannabidiol in Dogs and Cats**. *Veterinary Clinics of North America: Small Animal Practice* [Internet]. 2018 Nov 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];48(6):1087\u2013102. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0195561618300871>  7. Janeczek A, Zawadzki M, Szpot P, Niedzwiedz A. **Marijuana intoxication in a cat**. *Acta Veterinaria Scandinavica* [Internet]. 2018 Jul 11 [cited 2021 Aug 14];60(1):44. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1186\/s13028-018-0398-0>  8. Bates N. **Exposure to drugs of abuse**. *Companion Animal* [Internet]. 2018 Feb 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];23(2):73\u201380. Available from: <https:\/\/www.magonlinelibrary.com\/doi\/abs\/10.12968\/coan.2018.23.2.73>  9. Parnes JE, Bravo AJ, Conner BT, Pearson MR. **A burning problem: cannabis lessons learned from Colorado**. *Addiction Research & Theory* [Internet]. 2018 Jan 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];26(1):3\u201310. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/16066359.2017.1315410>  10. Fitzgerald KT, Bronstein AC, Newquist KL. **Marijuana Poisoning**. *Topics in Companion Animal Medicine* [Internet]. 2013 Feb 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];28(1):8\u201312. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S1938973613000263>  11. Meola SD, Tearney CC, Haas SA, Hackett TB, Mazzaferro EM. **Evaluation of trends in marijuana toxicosis in dogs living in a state with legalized medical marijuana: 125 dogs (2005\u20132010)**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2012 [cited 2021 Aug 14];22(6):690\u20136. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/j.1476-4431.2012.00818.x>  12. Teitler JB. **Evaluation of a Human On-site Urine Multidrug Test for Emergency Use With Dogs**. *Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association* [Internet]. 2009 Mar 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];45(2):59\u201366. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5326\/0450059>","human_ref_B":"If the tests showed signs of those drugs, and you have those exact drugs at your house\u2026 what\u2019s the simplest explanation here?  It\u2019s more than possible that you or your partner or someone dropped these meds, and your dog ate them.  It may be hard to believe, but it makes the most sense.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9631.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8yxoqc","c_root_id_B":"h8vq4jc","created_at_utc_A":1628984471,"created_at_utc_B":1628920775,"score_A":9,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Your post clearly says you have those drugs at your house, along with the fact other people live there. While there might be false positives involved, it is much more likely that the professional knows what they are talking about and your dog found some bad stuff. Lesson learned, I hope. Glad your dog is home safe.","human_ref_B":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","labels":1,"seconds_difference":63696.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8yxoqc","c_root_id_B":"h8xnp6w","created_at_utc_A":1628984471,"created_at_utc_B":1628963108,"score_A":9,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Your post clearly says you have those drugs at your house, along with the fact other people live there. While there might be false positives involved, it is much more likely that the professional knows what they are talking about and your dog found some bad stuff. Lesson learned, I hope. Glad your dog is home safe.","human_ref_B":"## DRUG SCREENING: RAPID TEST KITS VS GC\/MS AND LC\/MS\/MS  I develop validated, multi-drug screening test methods for use by clinical toxicologists, so my experience has more to do with the test methods for use on humans than the toxicological mechanisms themselves.  Ask your vet what test they used to perform the drug exposure assessment. Most likely, they used an OTC or \"rapid test\" for humans, and as one of the other posters here noted, those tests are not validated for use in animals.  The current gold standard for toxicological drug screening is gas chromatography coupled to mass spectrometry (GC\/MS), but, over time, liquid chromatography coupled to a multi-dimensional mass spectrometer (LC\/MS\/MS) will eventually become the gold standard.  In my expert opinion, I prefer LC\/MS\/MS because the sample preparation is simpler, but, in terms of quality of results, I am much more trusting of test results obtained with GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS than those obtained via rapid test kits, which have much more limited diagnostic utility due to high rates of false positives and false negatives coupled with low population prevalence.  If your vet did use an OTC or rapid test\u2014which is almost certain, since a vet's office will almost surely not have a GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS system\u2014then they will have missed detection of exposure to marijuana, THC, CBD, or related compounds (see references below).  ## TOXICITY OF THC EXPOSURE IN DOGS Although THC and the other metabolites in the cannabis plant have a wide margin of safety (MoS)\u2014which is also known as the \"*therapeutic window*\"\u2014in animals (*i.e.* the ratio of the lethal concentration divided by the minimum therapeutic concentration), the LD50 for THC in dogs is not well-established (see references below). Also, there is a lot of literature showing that toxic exposures of marijuana and related compounds in dogs has increased in states where marijuana has been legalized (see references below).  ## CITATIONS 1. Fitzgerald AH, Zhang Y, Fritz S, Whitehouse WH, Brabson T, Pohlman L, *et al.* **Detecting and quantifying marijuana metabolites in serum and urine of 19 dogs affected by marijuana toxicity**. *J VET Diagn Invest* [Internet]. 2021 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];33(5):1002\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1177\/10406387211027227>  2. McDermott FM, Henriksson AE, Wismer TA. **Heroin intoxication in a dog**. *Veterinary Record Case Reports* [Internet]. 2021 May 8 [cited 2021 Aug 14];n\/a(n\/a):e83. Available from: <https:\/\/bvajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1002\/vrc2.83>  3. Howard-Azzeh M, Pearl DL, Swirski A, Ward M, Hovdey R, O\u2019Sullivan TL, *et al.* **The impact of state cannabis legislation, county-level socioeconomic and dog-level characteristics on reported cannabis poisonings of companion dogs in the USA** (2009\u20132014). *PLOS ONE* [Internet]. 2021 Apr 16 [cited 2021 Aug 14];16(4):e0250323. Available from: <https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0250323>  4. Bertero A, Fossati P, Caloni F. **Indoor poisoning of companion animals by chemicals**. *Science of The Total Environment* [Internet]. 2020 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];733:139366. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0048969720328837>  5. Kelmer E, Shimshoni JA, Merbl Y, Kolski O, Klainbart S. **Use of gas chromatography\u2013mass spectrometry for definitive diagnosis of synthetic cannabinoid toxicity in a dog**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2019 [cited 2021 Aug 14];29(5):573\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/vec.12872>  6. Brutlag A, Hommerding H. **Toxicology of Marijuana, Synthetic Cannabinoids, and Cannabidiol in Dogs and Cats**. *Veterinary Clinics of North America: Small Animal Practice* [Internet]. 2018 Nov 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];48(6):1087\u2013102. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0195561618300871>  7. Janeczek A, Zawadzki M, Szpot P, Niedzwiedz A. **Marijuana intoxication in a cat**. *Acta Veterinaria Scandinavica* [Internet]. 2018 Jul 11 [cited 2021 Aug 14];60(1):44. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1186\/s13028-018-0398-0>  8. Bates N. **Exposure to drugs of abuse**. *Companion Animal* [Internet]. 2018 Feb 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];23(2):73\u201380. Available from: <https:\/\/www.magonlinelibrary.com\/doi\/abs\/10.12968\/coan.2018.23.2.73>  9. Parnes JE, Bravo AJ, Conner BT, Pearson MR. **A burning problem: cannabis lessons learned from Colorado**. *Addiction Research & Theory* [Internet]. 2018 Jan 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];26(1):3\u201310. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/16066359.2017.1315410>  10. Fitzgerald KT, Bronstein AC, Newquist KL. **Marijuana Poisoning**. *Topics in Companion Animal Medicine* [Internet]. 2013 Feb 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];28(1):8\u201312. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S1938973613000263>  11. Meola SD, Tearney CC, Haas SA, Hackett TB, Mazzaferro EM. **Evaluation of trends in marijuana toxicosis in dogs living in a state with legalized medical marijuana: 125 dogs (2005\u20132010)**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2012 [cited 2021 Aug 14];22(6):690\u20136. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/j.1476-4431.2012.00818.x>  12. Teitler JB. **Evaluation of a Human On-site Urine Multidrug Test for Emergency Use With Dogs**. *Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association* [Internet]. 2009 Mar 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];45(2):59\u201366. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5326\/0450059>","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21363.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8vq4jc","c_root_id_B":"h8z1qmx","created_at_utc_A":1628920775,"created_at_utc_B":1628986527,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Sounds like she got the drugs from either you or your boyfriend","human_ref_B":"While I agree with others that the drug tests are validated for humans and not dogs, the fact that you have all three of these drugs at your house makes it very likely that your dog did in fact get into someone's drug supply -- be that you or anyone else living at your house.  Simply put, dogs and drugs don't mix. Drugs need to be secured in locked containers, not discarded on the floor in hopes of being vacuumed up at some point.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":65752.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"p41h6y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is at the ER. They said she ingested cannabis, benzos, and opiods TL; dr   My dog has tested positive for drugs that I do not have.  I am certain she did not get into my medication.  How is this possible?   \u2022 Species: dog   \u2022 Age: 15 months   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: f\/neutered    \u2022 Breed: mostly BT with a splash of chihuahua    \u2022 Body weight: 18lbs   \u2022 History:    \u2022 Clinical signs: wobbly and vomited    \u2022 Duration: 2 hours ago (7pm Pacific time)   \u2022 Your general location: west coast of canada    My dog got into something today - she was chewing on something and I reached in her mouth and pulled out some of my hair and figured that was it.  That was 5 hours ago.    2 hours ago she vomited a yellowish\/orange liquid with a piece of paper (I'm assuming this was from an old joint she may have found behind the couch).  Then she got very unstable.    She has a caged in play area and I take her out to interact with her. I did this 5 hours ago as mentioned above.    After she vomited my partner tried to feed her and she refused.  I took her put of her play area to see how she would react in a bigger area.  She wanted to play but was obviously unstable. So we took her to the Er vet and told them we think she ate a roach.  They did a urine drug test and it came back positive for canabis, opiods and benzodiazepines.  They said she could not hold her bladder (due to covid we had to wait in the parking lot).  She didn't have any accidents at our home or in the car.   The only cannabis I smoke is from our government stores (legal in Canada) and it IS possible she found a roach that was missed but I vaccuum every day and try to keep the floor free of anything she could eat.  I do not take opiods and am very careful with my people medication and am certain I did not drop a pill.   They are keeping my dog over night for fluid treatment.  They are saying it was my medication but I am 99.9 percent certain that there is a mistake.    Full disclosure: she did ingest a pill I dropped late last year and that was 100% my fault.  I no longer take that medication.  I count every pill I take when I take them out of the package and as I ingest them.  I am very careful.    Can these tests be wrong?  The doctor said I must be buying drugs that are laced - but I buy them directly from the government.  I don't see a situation where she would have gotten one of my pills as I learned a very painful lesson when I made that mistake before.    How accurate are these tests?  Is there something else I should be looking for?  I want to keep her safe and my partner says she should stay in her play area rather then be out in the living area with us.    He does not want to take her for walks because she could get hurt.  He does not want her to be outside her play area because she could get hurt.  I think the isolation is bad for her and that she needs more exercise but he is afraid she will get hurt.    I love my little girl and am very scared.  I do not believe she got into my medication.  Am I missing something?","c_root_id_A":"h8xnp6w","c_root_id_B":"h8z1qmx","created_at_utc_A":1628963108,"created_at_utc_B":1628986527,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"## DRUG SCREENING: RAPID TEST KITS VS GC\/MS AND LC\/MS\/MS  I develop validated, multi-drug screening test methods for use by clinical toxicologists, so my experience has more to do with the test methods for use on humans than the toxicological mechanisms themselves.  Ask your vet what test they used to perform the drug exposure assessment. Most likely, they used an OTC or \"rapid test\" for humans, and as one of the other posters here noted, those tests are not validated for use in animals.  The current gold standard for toxicological drug screening is gas chromatography coupled to mass spectrometry (GC\/MS), but, over time, liquid chromatography coupled to a multi-dimensional mass spectrometer (LC\/MS\/MS) will eventually become the gold standard.  In my expert opinion, I prefer LC\/MS\/MS because the sample preparation is simpler, but, in terms of quality of results, I am much more trusting of test results obtained with GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS than those obtained via rapid test kits, which have much more limited diagnostic utility due to high rates of false positives and false negatives coupled with low population prevalence.  If your vet did use an OTC or rapid test\u2014which is almost certain, since a vet's office will almost surely not have a GC\/MS or LC\/MS\/MS system\u2014then they will have missed detection of exposure to marijuana, THC, CBD, or related compounds (see references below).  ## TOXICITY OF THC EXPOSURE IN DOGS Although THC and the other metabolites in the cannabis plant have a wide margin of safety (MoS)\u2014which is also known as the \"*therapeutic window*\"\u2014in animals (*i.e.* the ratio of the lethal concentration divided by the minimum therapeutic concentration), the LD50 for THC in dogs is not well-established (see references below). Also, there is a lot of literature showing that toxic exposures of marijuana and related compounds in dogs has increased in states where marijuana has been legalized (see references below).  ## CITATIONS 1. Fitzgerald AH, Zhang Y, Fritz S, Whitehouse WH, Brabson T, Pohlman L, *et al.* **Detecting and quantifying marijuana metabolites in serum and urine of 19 dogs affected by marijuana toxicity**. *J VET Diagn Invest* [Internet]. 2021 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];33(5):1002\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1177\/10406387211027227>  2. McDermott FM, Henriksson AE, Wismer TA. **Heroin intoxication in a dog**. *Veterinary Record Case Reports* [Internet]. 2021 May 8 [cited 2021 Aug 14];n\/a(n\/a):e83. Available from: <https:\/\/bvajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1002\/vrc2.83>  3. Howard-Azzeh M, Pearl DL, Swirski A, Ward M, Hovdey R, O\u2019Sullivan TL, *et al.* **The impact of state cannabis legislation, county-level socioeconomic and dog-level characteristics on reported cannabis poisonings of companion dogs in the USA** (2009\u20132014). *PLOS ONE* [Internet]. 2021 Apr 16 [cited 2021 Aug 14];16(4):e0250323. Available from: <https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0250323>  4. Bertero A, Fossati P, Caloni F. **Indoor poisoning of companion animals by chemicals**. *Science of The Total Environment* [Internet]. 2020 Sep 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];733:139366. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0048969720328837>  5. Kelmer E, Shimshoni JA, Merbl Y, Kolski O, Klainbart S. **Use of gas chromatography\u2013mass spectrometry for definitive diagnosis of synthetic cannabinoid toxicity in a dog**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2019 [cited 2021 Aug 14];29(5):573\u20137. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/vec.12872>  6. Brutlag A, Hommerding H. **Toxicology of Marijuana, Synthetic Cannabinoids, and Cannabidiol in Dogs and Cats**. *Veterinary Clinics of North America: Small Animal Practice* [Internet]. 2018 Nov 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];48(6):1087\u2013102. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0195561618300871>  7. Janeczek A, Zawadzki M, Szpot P, Niedzwiedz A. **Marijuana intoxication in a cat**. *Acta Veterinaria Scandinavica* [Internet]. 2018 Jul 11 [cited 2021 Aug 14];60(1):44. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1186\/s13028-018-0398-0>  8. Bates N. **Exposure to drugs of abuse**. *Companion Animal* [Internet]. 2018 Feb 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];23(2):73\u201380. Available from: <https:\/\/www.magonlinelibrary.com\/doi\/abs\/10.12968\/coan.2018.23.2.73>  9. Parnes JE, Bravo AJ, Conner BT, Pearson MR. **A burning problem: cannabis lessons learned from Colorado**. *Addiction Research & Theory* [Internet]. 2018 Jan 2 [cited 2021 Aug 14];26(1):3\u201310. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/16066359.2017.1315410>  10. Fitzgerald KT, Bronstein AC, Newquist KL. **Marijuana Poisoning**. *Topics in Companion Animal Medicine* [Internet]. 2013 Feb 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];28(1):8\u201312. Available from: <https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S1938973613000263>  11. Meola SD, Tearney CC, Haas SA, Hackett TB, Mazzaferro EM. **Evaluation of trends in marijuana toxicosis in dogs living in a state with legalized medical marijuana: 125 dogs (2005\u20132010)**. *Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care* [Internet]. 2012 [cited 2021 Aug 14];22(6):690\u20136. Available from: <https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/j.1476-4431.2012.00818.x>  12. Teitler JB. **Evaluation of a Human On-site Urine Multidrug Test for Emergency Use With Dogs**. *Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association* [Internet]. 2009 Mar 1 [cited 2021 Aug 14];45(2):59\u201366. Available from: <https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5326\/0450059>","human_ref_B":"While I agree with others that the drug tests are validated for humans and not dogs, the fact that you have all three of these drugs at your house makes it very likely that your dog did in fact get into someone's drug supply -- be that you or anyone else living at your house.  Simply put, dogs and drugs don't mix. Drugs need to be secured in locked containers, not discarded on the floor in hopes of being vacuumed up at some point.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23419.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19psjv","c_root_id_B":"f19i51z","created_at_utc_A":1569275781,"created_at_utc_B":1569272766,"score_A":24,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Ask around, there are vets that will do a \u201claser nail trim\u201d which is an anesthetized nail trim past the quick that\u2019s cauterized with a surgical laser. It\u2019s a common thing, and should help with super long quicks! It\u2019s easy to do while the pet is under anesthesia for a different procedure, but can be done on its own.","human_ref_B":"Normally the risks of putting them under outweigh a simple nail trim, at least at the office I worked at we did not do that, unless like you said they were already under for a different procedure. Just take the dog to the vet and ask them to do the nail trim regularly, most will be able to manage, Ive restrained an over 100 lb dog that DID NOT want a trim before, I\u2019m sure a lil dog will be possible too, no matter how wiley. Good luck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3015.0,"score_ratio":2.1818181818}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19pj61","c_root_id_B":"f19psjv","created_at_utc_A":1569275632,"created_at_utc_B":1569275781,"score_A":8,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But as a very possibly working alternative, I\u2019d like to suggest to get your dog desensitized for nail care. There is a wonderful Facebook group (nail maintenance for dogs https:\/\/m.facebook.com\/?_rdr#!\/groups\/356060287872241?group_view_referrer=profile_browser ) with over 70k members in it. It has a very strong and detailed guidance on desensitization from training perspective. Their nail trimming method is pretty god as well. Mine is more detailed though.) I\u2019d be happy to talk to you about nail care as well. I\u2019m the author of Nail it! - A Step-by-Step guide to joyful dog nail trimming. PM me if you have any questions!","human_ref_B":"Ask around, there are vets that will do a \u201claser nail trim\u201d which is an anesthetized nail trim past the quick that\u2019s cauterized with a surgical laser. It\u2019s a common thing, and should help with super long quicks! It\u2019s easy to do while the pet is under anesthesia for a different procedure, but can be done on its own.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":149.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19i51z","c_root_id_B":"f19xaeo","created_at_utc_A":1569272766,"created_at_utc_B":1569280487,"score_A":11,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Normally the risks of putting them under outweigh a simple nail trim, at least at the office I worked at we did not do that, unless like you said they were already under for a different procedure. Just take the dog to the vet and ask them to do the nail trim regularly, most will be able to manage, Ive restrained an over 100 lb dog that DID NOT want a trim before, I\u2019m sure a lil dog will be possible too, no matter how wiley. Good luck.","human_ref_B":"This doesn't really answer your question, but for future reference: putting things like roofing shingles or traction tape (used in boats\/swimming pools etc.) strategically in places the dog walks frequently will help keep the nails short :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7721.0,"score_ratio":1.3636363636}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19xaeo","c_root_id_B":"f19pj61","created_at_utc_A":1569280487,"created_at_utc_B":1569275632,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"This doesn't really answer your question, but for future reference: putting things like roofing shingles or traction tape (used in boats\/swimming pools etc.) strategically in places the dog walks frequently will help keep the nails short :)","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. But as a very possibly working alternative, I\u2019d like to suggest to get your dog desensitized for nail care. There is a wonderful Facebook group (nail maintenance for dogs https:\/\/m.facebook.com\/?_rdr#!\/groups\/356060287872241?group_view_referrer=profile_browser ) with over 70k members in it. It has a very strong and detailed guidance on desensitization from training perspective. Their nail trimming method is pretty god as well. Mine is more detailed though.) I\u2019d be happy to talk to you about nail care as well. I\u2019m the author of Nail it! - A Step-by-Step guide to joyful dog nail trimming. PM me if you have any questions!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4855.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19pj61","c_root_id_B":"f1a7a8h","created_at_utc_A":1569275632,"created_at_utc_B":1569286802,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But as a very possibly working alternative, I\u2019d like to suggest to get your dog desensitized for nail care. There is a wonderful Facebook group (nail maintenance for dogs https:\/\/m.facebook.com\/?_rdr#!\/groups\/356060287872241?group_view_referrer=profile_browser ) with over 70k members in it. It has a very strong and detailed guidance on desensitization from training perspective. Their nail trimming method is pretty god as well. Mine is more detailed though.) I\u2019d be happy to talk to you about nail care as well. I\u2019m the author of Nail it! - A Step-by-Step guide to joyful dog nail trimming. PM me if you have any questions!","human_ref_B":"You need to work on conditioning them to be used to it or start with a drimmel. Take your time get them used to having feet touched and held with lots of love and treats. Some dogs don't like the pressure of nail clippers.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11170.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"d8a51q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Will vets sedate a dog to cut nails past the quick? I have 4 dogs and I\u2019m diligent about nail trims, etc. However, I have a chihuahua mix that absolutely will not let me cut his nails.   He\u2019s 5. I\u2019ve done my best over these 5 years of taking him in every 2 weeks for trims, but unfortunately his nails have still grown out so far that I\u2019m unable to get the quick down with nail trims alone (they can only cut tips or dremmel the edge).   At his last vet annual visit, they mentioned that when we have to clean his teeth (he isn\u2019t due yet), that they would cut his nails very short while he was under.   His teeth do not need a cleaning right now and I worry that if I wait much longer, he will have gait changes that could eventually lead to joint problems, etc. Would a vet be able to do this procedure? Is it something that is done alone, or just with other procedures?   Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"f19pj61","c_root_id_B":"f1a48it","created_at_utc_A":1569275632,"created_at_utc_B":1569284858,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But as a very possibly working alternative, I\u2019d like to suggest to get your dog desensitized for nail care. There is a wonderful Facebook group (nail maintenance for dogs https:\/\/m.facebook.com\/?_rdr#!\/groups\/356060287872241?group_view_referrer=profile_browser ) with over 70k members in it. It has a very strong and detailed guidance on desensitization from training perspective. Their nail trimming method is pretty god as well. Mine is more detailed though.) I\u2019d be happy to talk to you about nail care as well. I\u2019m the author of Nail it! - A Step-by-Step guide to joyful dog nail trimming. PM me if you have any questions!","human_ref_B":"I was under the impression that regular mail trims will naturally cause the quick to recede, is this not true?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9226.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"asiwm1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How can I cut\/file my dog\u2019s black nails without hitting the quick? My bull mastiff has been going to a groomer 2x a month, mainly because of her nails. After reading reviews of the place we were going to of abusing animals, we\u2019ve decided to either find a new place or just take care of her ourselves.   Can someone please tell me how to cut\/file my dog\u2019s nails without hurting her please? Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"egv0pso","c_root_id_B":"egv8wbw","created_at_utc_A":1550643041,"created_at_utc_B":1550655262,"score_A":6,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"I use a revolving filer that has a light and I'm able to see the quick and file just before it.","human_ref_B":"If you're unsure give your regular vet clinic a call and ask if you can take your dog in for one of the nurses to show you where and how to cut \ud83d\ude42 this is something we've done for clients before, bonus if you have a vaccine\/check up due because you can just ask while you're there","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12221.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"asiwm1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How can I cut\/file my dog\u2019s black nails without hitting the quick? My bull mastiff has been going to a groomer 2x a month, mainly because of her nails. After reading reviews of the place we were going to of abusing animals, we\u2019ve decided to either find a new place or just take care of her ourselves.   Can someone please tell me how to cut\/file my dog\u2019s nails without hurting her please? Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"egv8wbw","c_root_id_B":"egv4p2c","created_at_utc_A":1550655262,"created_at_utc_B":1550648283,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If you're unsure give your regular vet clinic a call and ask if you can take your dog in for one of the nurses to show you where and how to cut \ud83d\ude42 this is something we've done for clients before, bonus if you have a vaccine\/check up due because you can just ask while you're there","human_ref_B":"I use a small, bright flashlight. If you hold it up to the nail and look at the other side, you should clearly be able to see the quick.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6979.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"v9zj83","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My dog has hookworms, can I still pet her? I know it\u2019s perhaps a stupid question, but I know absolutely nothing about hookworms. We have taken her to the vet already, she\u2019s on medicine for the hookworms, but the vet informed me she could potentially pass the worms on to me if I\u2019m not careful. I didn\u2019t think to ask when at the vets, but does this mean I can\u2019t pet my dog until she\u2019s better?","c_root_id_A":"ibzlw4k","c_root_id_B":"ibzd2mp","created_at_utc_A":1654964963,"created_at_utc_B":1654960895,"score_A":17,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You can for sure pet your dog.   Hookworms are mostly transferred from fecal-oral transmission, meaning the eggs are in the feces and if you get poop on your hands and then eat something or put your hands in your mouth you could transfer the eggs to yourself. Luckily, hookworm transmission to people is usually only seen in young, very old, pregnant, or otherwise immunocompromised people, and not that common in normal healthy adults.   Be sure to wash your hands after you pick up the dogs poop, and you should be fine.","human_ref_B":"I think it's more taking care when cleaning their poop and such as you can inhale eggs! I don't think it would be just skin on skin contact but let's wait for actual vetw to reply Either way out on a mask when cleaning the poop and maybe gloves too just to be careful haha","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4068.0,"score_ratio":5.6666666667}
{"post_id":"kg0awz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Can someone explain my dog's diagnosis to me? Mast cell tumor.    * **Species: dog** * **Age: 7** * **Sex\/Neuter status: spayed** * **Breed: chihuahua** * **Body weight: 9lb** * **History: got lump removed 2 weeks ago** * **Clinical signs: lump that changes size** * **Duration: \\~6mo** * **Your general location: US** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. This section of a skin mass consists of an unencapsulated, moderately well delineated dermal neoplasm comprised of individualized round cells distributed in moderate to high density upon a background of sclerotic collagen. These cells are characterized by a uniformly sized, round euchromatic nucleus, abundant basophilic granular cytoplasm, and well defined cell margins. Many mature eosinophils are distributed among these cells. Mitotic figures are not observed (MI <1).**     Hello AskVet, my pup had a weird lump that popped up maybe 6 months ago. It would get smaller and then bigger and smaller again at random so I took her to the vet and they said it was probably a bug bite. It never went away so we went back to the vet, they said it was \"probably nothing\" just some inflammation and I voiced concern about it being a mast cell tumor because that's what it sounded like with the research I did myself, I was told to not read online and scare myself. I took her to another vet for a 3rd exam the day it started changing colors (from flesh tone to kind of darker purple?) and scheduled a removal and sent it off to a lab for testing. She got her stitches out today and the vet told me it was a low grade mast cell tumor.      I have some questions I wasn't able to think clearly enough to ask at the time if anyone could help give me peace of mind as they're closed for the weekend now.   1. Is this cancer? The vet mentioned a lot of \"ifs\" and possibilities and I'm confused. He mentioned chemo and the cost (in terms of money and the toll it takes on the body) but for now we were told to do benadryl and prednisone, to also get rid of a cough she's had since the surgery. 2. Can someone explain the lab report pasted above to me?  3. Is this a common method of treatment? Benadryl and prednisone? I was given 5mg prednisone (1\/2 tab twice daily for 4 days, 1\/2 tab once daily for 4 days, then 1\/2 tab once every other day until gone) and then 1\/4 tab of benadryl I think once or twice a day but I can't remember which or how long.  4. What exactly is this treating? Is this to make sure the (maybe) cancer stays gone? The vet said he got clear margins when it was removed.   I really appreciate any input, my head started spinning once I heard \"mast cell tumor\" so I was struggling to absorb everything the vet was telling me :( I am so scared to lose my best friend.","c_root_id_A":"ggc03en","c_root_id_B":"ggc041l","created_at_utc_A":1608354739,"created_at_utc_B":1608354752,"score_A":5,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"This resource may answer some of your questions :) https:\/\/veterinarypartner.vin.com\/default.aspx?pid=19239&id=4952018","human_ref_B":"Veterinary oncology intern here.   Without the full pathology report I can't tell you too much you don't already know, but piecing it together from what you have said ill do my best.  Mast cell tumors are a type of cancer that arise from the cells that cause allergic reactions (mast cells). The biggest fight we have with mast cell tumors is figuring out which ones will spread, or which ones can be cured with surgery. Being a low grade mast cell tumor means it is much less likely to spread than a high grade mast cell tumor (about 5% of dogs will die of low grade mast cell tumors compared to 55-95% of dogs with high grade mast cell tumors). Benadryl and prednisone are a common treatment because mast cell tumors can release histamine which can cause ulcers or allergic reactions so an antihistamine (benadryl) is typically helpful and prednisone can shrink mast cell tumors.  If mast cell tumors spread they tend to go to the local lymph node and then the liver and spleen.  To check if there is spread your veterinarian can perform what is called staging, which can include lymph node aspirates as well as spleen and liver aspirates.   And if you want to learn more you can recommend referral to a veterinary oncologist who can hopefully answer all your questions (but we tend to not say too much until we have finished staging).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13.0,"score_ratio":6.4}
{"post_id":"7lb2w9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Dog Euthanasia gone wrong? I had to euthanize my dog last night. Once he was injected with the serum he perked up and began crying and trying to back off the table. The vet said his vein burst because he was old and dehydrated. My question is, was he in a lot of pain? It feels devastating to know his last moments were violent and painful.","c_root_id_A":"drl4vto","c_root_id_B":"drl4rum","created_at_utc_A":1513888648,"created_at_utc_B":1513888534,"score_A":24,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"So sorry for your loss :(  The solution can sting if it goes outside the vein which probably surprised your dog and caused the reaction you saw. It's an unfortunate thing to witness in your dog's last moments but ultimately you were there with him until the end and I think that alone brings a lot of peace and relief.","human_ref_B":"Some dogs have a paradoxical effect to sedation drugs used for euthanasia. Obviously nobody can know for sure what they are experiencing, but sometimes animals reactions can seem worse than they are (dogs coming out of anesthesia and experiencing dysphoria can sound like they are being horribly abused, when in reality they just feel weird and don't know what's going on). Try to take heart in the fact that your dog is now at peace, with no more suffering to endure, and that you were there for him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":114.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"6vu75u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What would be an appropriate gift to send to a vet\/animal hospital staff? Needed to have my sweet friend of 3 years put down after a trip to an emergency vet. I was\/still am very unfamiliar with the clinic (2 hour drive), but they were so caring, patient, and sympathetic, letting me know that I could take as long as I needed to say goodbye, even though it was pretty late at night when I came in.   It's been about a month, and I just can't stop thinking about the vet and staff who were very kind, yet forward and honest about the prognosis and kindly assured me that it was okay to cry in front of them, as I was trying so hard to keep it together.  What would be a good gift to send to the staff?","c_root_id_A":"dm354ow","c_root_id_B":"dm31tvo","created_at_utc_A":1503618282,"created_at_utc_B":1503614019,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Sending a couple pizzas or some kind of lunch is always great. We rarely have time to eat lunch so it's awesome.","human_ref_B":"A box of biscuits\/chocolate, salted or flavoured nuts and fancyish crisps and breadsticks. - all things that can be eaten on the go and will be greatly appreciated.   Also, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad it was dealt with well by the practice you went to.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4263.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"6vu75u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What would be an appropriate gift to send to a vet\/animal hospital staff? Needed to have my sweet friend of 3 years put down after a trip to an emergency vet. I was\/still am very unfamiliar with the clinic (2 hour drive), but they were so caring, patient, and sympathetic, letting me know that I could take as long as I needed to say goodbye, even though it was pretty late at night when I came in.   It's been about a month, and I just can't stop thinking about the vet and staff who were very kind, yet forward and honest about the prognosis and kindly assured me that it was okay to cry in front of them, as I was trying so hard to keep it together.  What would be a good gift to send to the staff?","c_root_id_A":"dm3a0lf","c_root_id_B":"dm31tvo","created_at_utc_A":1503624963,"created_at_utc_B":1503614019,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Vet staff like brownies and pizza, or both","human_ref_B":"A box of biscuits\/chocolate, salted or flavoured nuts and fancyish crisps and breadsticks. - all things that can be eaten on the go and will be greatly appreciated.   Also, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad it was dealt with well by the practice you went to.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10944.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"6vu75u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What would be an appropriate gift to send to a vet\/animal hospital staff? Needed to have my sweet friend of 3 years put down after a trip to an emergency vet. I was\/still am very unfamiliar with the clinic (2 hour drive), but they were so caring, patient, and sympathetic, letting me know that I could take as long as I needed to say goodbye, even though it was pretty late at night when I came in.   It's been about a month, and I just can't stop thinking about the vet and staff who were very kind, yet forward and honest about the prognosis and kindly assured me that it was okay to cry in front of them, as I was trying so hard to keep it together.  What would be a good gift to send to the staff?","c_root_id_A":"dm39k9n","c_root_id_B":"dm3a0lf","created_at_utc_A":1503624342,"created_at_utc_B":1503624963,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I sent lunch over (Pick a place that's close by and delivers) when I had to put my cat down. I also brought a care package for the vet who helped me out when we put her down, because she was so unbelievably wonderful.  If you bake, I'm sure they'd love cookies or brownies. Something quick and can be eaten while walking.  I'm sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Vet staff like brownies and pizza, or both","labels":0,"seconds_difference":621.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzwheq","c_root_id_B":"ejzyyuw","created_at_utc_A":1554259574,"created_at_utc_B":1554261698,"score_A":48,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"In addition to the great suggestions already posted, a positive Yelp\/Google review is always greatly appreciated- all too many times it's only the people with bad experiences leaving reviews.","human_ref_B":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2124.0,"score_ratio":1.0416666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzyyuw","c_root_id_B":"ejzq4yu","created_at_utc_A":1554261698,"created_at_utc_B":1554254491,"score_A":50,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","human_ref_B":"Stop by with pizza for all the staff at lunch.  Reception squeezed you in doctor diagnosed the problem and the technicians nursed your baby back to health!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7207.0,"score_ratio":1.9230769231}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzp910","c_root_id_B":"ejzyyuw","created_at_utc_A":1554253793,"created_at_utc_B":1554261698,"score_A":23,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Was just going to say snacks, all vets and staff like snacks. One of our favorites is bagels and coffee. We have a few clients that surprise us with them a few times per year and it just makes our week!","human_ref_B":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7905.0,"score_ratio":2.1739130435}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzyyuw","c_root_id_B":"ejzxn0n","created_at_utc_A":1554261698,"created_at_utc_B":1554260536,"score_A":50,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","human_ref_B":"A handwritten card for sure! We always appreciated bagels\/doughnuts, meat\/cheese\/cracker trays. Like someone else mentioned, food that can be eaten one handed and quickly!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1162.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzx0rw","c_root_id_B":"ejzyyuw","created_at_utc_A":1554260016,"created_at_utc_B":1554261698,"score_A":3,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","human_ref_B":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1682.0,"score_ratio":16.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzyyuw","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554261698,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":50,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"We called the practice manager and asked if we could buy the practice pizza for lunch one day. They let the staff know so they could leave their lunch at home that day and we bought pizza for the whole hospital. 20 pizzas, salad, and soda. We also had the pizzeria put a photo of our dogs and a thank-you note on the boxes.   We never walked into that practice again without everyone shouting \"It's Anna and Max!\" and swarming them with love. Best purchase ever! They always got VIP care from then on!","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2675.0,"score_ratio":25.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzwheq","c_root_id_B":"ejzq4yu","created_at_utc_A":1554259574,"created_at_utc_B":1554254491,"score_A":48,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"In addition to the great suggestions already posted, a positive Yelp\/Google review is always greatly appreciated- all too many times it's only the people with bad experiences leaving reviews.","human_ref_B":"Stop by with pizza for all the staff at lunch.  Reception squeezed you in doctor diagnosed the problem and the technicians nursed your baby back to health!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5083.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzp910","c_root_id_B":"ejzwheq","created_at_utc_A":1554253793,"created_at_utc_B":1554259574,"score_A":23,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Was just going to say snacks, all vets and staff like snacks. One of our favorites is bagels and coffee. We have a few clients that surprise us with them a few times per year and it just makes our week!","human_ref_B":"In addition to the great suggestions already posted, a positive Yelp\/Google review is always greatly appreciated- all too many times it's only the people with bad experiences leaving reviews.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5781.0,"score_ratio":2.0869565217}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzwheq","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554259574,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":48,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"In addition to the great suggestions already posted, a positive Yelp\/Google review is always greatly appreciated- all too many times it's only the people with bad experiences leaving reviews.","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":551.0,"score_ratio":24.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzp910","c_root_id_B":"ejzq4yu","created_at_utc_A":1554253793,"created_at_utc_B":1554254491,"score_A":23,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Was just going to say snacks, all vets and staff like snacks. One of our favorites is bagels and coffee. We have a few clients that surprise us with them a few times per year and it just makes our week!","human_ref_B":"Stop by with pizza for all the staff at lunch.  Reception squeezed you in doctor diagnosed the problem and the technicians nursed your baby back to health!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":698.0,"score_ratio":1.1304347826}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzx0rw","c_root_id_B":"ejzxn0n","created_at_utc_A":1554260016,"created_at_utc_B":1554260536,"score_A":3,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","human_ref_B":"A handwritten card for sure! We always appreciated bagels\/doughnuts, meat\/cheese\/cracker trays. Like someone else mentioned, food that can be eaten one handed and quickly!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":520.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzxn0n","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554260536,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":15,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"A handwritten card for sure! We always appreciated bagels\/doughnuts, meat\/cheese\/cracker trays. Like someone else mentioned, food that can be eaten one handed and quickly!","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1513.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0jmad","c_root_id_B":"ek0687e","created_at_utc_A":1554290536,"created_at_utc_B":1554269234,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","human_ref_B":"A nice card or letter addressed to the *entire* staff is always apreciated. Support staff is often \u201cinvisible\u201d and unrecognized. You know your veterinarian is amazing, but you may not be aware of all of the other staff members that helped you vet have the time and resources to be so amazing to you and your pet.    You absolutely don\u2019t need to include any sort of gift to express your appreciation.  Just hearing a heartfelt \u201cthank you\u201d is wonderful. However, if you really want to do a gift then, as others have said, snacks are fabulous! Sometimes it\u2019s tough to get a break or have time to eat. Having some tasty grab-and-go snacks (cheese and crackers, fresh fruit platter, chips and dip etc.)  or recieving a couple of hot pizzas (or other easy to eat, satisfying food) can be life-changing. Sweets and coffee are nice,  but we get a ton of that sort of thing from clients and reps and salespeople (at least at my clinic). I would avoid gifting a plant. It\u2019s an added responsibility for someone and a guilt trip if it dies.   The best gifts *our* staff has ever gotten have included sandwich or pizza delivery; fruit, veggie, or meat\/cheese\/cracker platters; special\/unique home-cooked family recipes (we have a client that does Cucidati-aka Christmas fig cookies every year and they\u2019re *amazing*); or practical gifts-I carry a collapsible shopping bag I got from a client over 3 years ago every day. She brought a variety of beautiful  tea towels, pot holders, aprons, and collapsible shopping bags for us to choose from back after a trip she took to London. It was awesome to choose what I liked from a variety of gifts!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":21302.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0jmad","c_root_id_B":"ejzx0rw","created_at_utc_A":1554290536,"created_at_utc_B":1554260016,"score_A":12,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","human_ref_B":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30520.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0jmad","c_root_id_B":"ek09lcg","created_at_utc_A":1554290536,"created_at_utc_B":1554273871,"score_A":12,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","human_ref_B":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16665.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzvtla","c_root_id_B":"ek0jmad","created_at_utc_A":1554259023,"created_at_utc_B":1554290536,"score_A":2,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","human_ref_B":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31513.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0jmad","c_root_id_B":"ejzzsux","created_at_utc_A":1554290536,"created_at_utc_B":1554262451,"score_A":12,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","human_ref_B":"A kind review on google and a nice mug with a coffee gift card!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":28085.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek070e5","c_root_id_B":"ek0jmad","created_at_utc_A":1554270234,"created_at_utc_B":1554290536,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"My dog swallowed some weird thing and had to be hospitalized and we appreciated the vet and the techs so much for treating my baby so well. I bought a basket and filled it candies, home baked cookies (ingredients listed in case of allergies) and a thank you note that was signed and had a personal message.","human_ref_B":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20302.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek00b7f","c_root_id_B":"ek0jmad","created_at_utc_A":1554262912,"created_at_utc_B":1554290536,"score_A":2,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Snacks for the whole staff!","human_ref_B":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27624.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek097qy","c_root_id_B":"ek0jmad","created_at_utc_A":1554273308,"created_at_utc_B":1554290536,"score_A":2,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"My vet loves cheese and granola (on the go food), she is tired of sweet stuff (cakes etc.)","human_ref_B":"Puff pastries! \"A Puff from Poof!\"","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17228.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzx0rw","c_root_id_B":"ek0ptyx","created_at_utc_A":1554260016,"created_at_utc_B":1554296691,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","human_ref_B":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":36675.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek09lcg","c_root_id_B":"ek0ptyx","created_at_utc_A":1554273871,"created_at_utc_B":1554296691,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","human_ref_B":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22820.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0ptyx","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554296691,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":37668.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzzsux","c_root_id_B":"ek0ptyx","created_at_utc_A":1554262451,"created_at_utc_B":1554296691,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"A kind review on google and a nice mug with a coffee gift card!","human_ref_B":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":34240.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0ptyx","c_root_id_B":"ek070e5","created_at_utc_A":1554296691,"created_at_utc_B":1554270234,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","human_ref_B":"My dog swallowed some weird thing and had to be hospitalized and we appreciated the vet and the techs so much for treating my baby so well. I bought a basket and filled it candies, home baked cookies (ingredients listed in case of allergies) and a thank you note that was signed and had a personal message.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26457.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0ptyx","c_root_id_B":"ek0juaq","created_at_utc_A":1554296691,"created_at_utc_B":1554290793,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","human_ref_B":"I have brought my vet the makings of yogurt parfaits (yogurt, granola, fruit) along with all bowls and spoons and cookies. He was very appreciative as it was also for his staff. I read through the posts as I want to do another thing for him... he has been amazing.   I\u2019m sorry your dog was so ill!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5898.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0ptyx","c_root_id_B":"ek00b7f","created_at_utc_A":1554296691,"created_at_utc_B":1554262912,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","human_ref_B":"Snacks for the whole staff!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33779.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0ptyx","c_root_id_B":"ek097qy","created_at_utc_A":1554296691,"created_at_utc_B":1554273308,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","human_ref_B":"My vet loves cheese and granola (on the go food), she is tired of sweet stuff (cakes etc.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23383.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0mihp","c_root_id_B":"ek0ptyx","created_at_utc_A":1554293637,"created_at_utc_B":1554296691,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"We like cards! They\u2019re something to look back on when having a rough day. A good review with her name specifically mentioned is also really nice.","human_ref_B":"**You should write a lovely review on Facebook and Google and Yelp that calls your veterinarian out by name and details what she did and how kind she was and how relieved and happy you were.**  &#x200B;  Seriously, there's a suicide epidemic in veterinary medicine and it always, always, always helps to see your name in lights, to see that someone appreciated you, to see you made a difference.  &#x200B;  I'm so glad Poof is feeling better.  We may need to see a picture to verify.  ;)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3054.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0687e","c_root_id_B":"ejzx0rw","created_at_utc_A":1554269234,"created_at_utc_B":1554260016,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A nice card or letter addressed to the *entire* staff is always apreciated. Support staff is often \u201cinvisible\u201d and unrecognized. You know your veterinarian is amazing, but you may not be aware of all of the other staff members that helped you vet have the time and resources to be so amazing to you and your pet.    You absolutely don\u2019t need to include any sort of gift to express your appreciation.  Just hearing a heartfelt \u201cthank you\u201d is wonderful. However, if you really want to do a gift then, as others have said, snacks are fabulous! Sometimes it\u2019s tough to get a break or have time to eat. Having some tasty grab-and-go snacks (cheese and crackers, fresh fruit platter, chips and dip etc.)  or recieving a couple of hot pizzas (or other easy to eat, satisfying food) can be life-changing. Sweets and coffee are nice,  but we get a ton of that sort of thing from clients and reps and salespeople (at least at my clinic). I would avoid gifting a plant. It\u2019s an added responsibility for someone and a guilt trip if it dies.   The best gifts *our* staff has ever gotten have included sandwich or pizza delivery; fruit, veggie, or meat\/cheese\/cracker platters; special\/unique home-cooked family recipes (we have a client that does Cucidati-aka Christmas fig cookies every year and they\u2019re *amazing*); or practical gifts-I carry a collapsible shopping bag I got from a client over 3 years ago every day. She brought a variety of beautiful  tea towels, pot holders, aprons, and collapsible shopping bags for us to choose from back after a trip she took to London. It was awesome to choose what I liked from a variety of gifts!","human_ref_B":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9218.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0687e","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554269234,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"A nice card or letter addressed to the *entire* staff is always apreciated. Support staff is often \u201cinvisible\u201d and unrecognized. You know your veterinarian is amazing, but you may not be aware of all of the other staff members that helped you vet have the time and resources to be so amazing to you and your pet.    You absolutely don\u2019t need to include any sort of gift to express your appreciation.  Just hearing a heartfelt \u201cthank you\u201d is wonderful. However, if you really want to do a gift then, as others have said, snacks are fabulous! Sometimes it\u2019s tough to get a break or have time to eat. Having some tasty grab-and-go snacks (cheese and crackers, fresh fruit platter, chips and dip etc.)  or recieving a couple of hot pizzas (or other easy to eat, satisfying food) can be life-changing. Sweets and coffee are nice,  but we get a ton of that sort of thing from clients and reps and salespeople (at least at my clinic). I would avoid gifting a plant. It\u2019s an added responsibility for someone and a guilt trip if it dies.   The best gifts *our* staff has ever gotten have included sandwich or pizza delivery; fruit, veggie, or meat\/cheese\/cracker platters; special\/unique home-cooked family recipes (we have a client that does Cucidati-aka Christmas fig cookies every year and they\u2019re *amazing*); or practical gifts-I carry a collapsible shopping bag I got from a client over 3 years ago every day. She brought a variety of beautiful  tea towels, pot holders, aprons, and collapsible shopping bags for us to choose from back after a trip she took to London. It was awesome to choose what I liked from a variety of gifts!","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10211.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0687e","c_root_id_B":"ejzzsux","created_at_utc_A":1554269234,"created_at_utc_B":1554262451,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A nice card or letter addressed to the *entire* staff is always apreciated. Support staff is often \u201cinvisible\u201d and unrecognized. You know your veterinarian is amazing, but you may not be aware of all of the other staff members that helped you vet have the time and resources to be so amazing to you and your pet.    You absolutely don\u2019t need to include any sort of gift to express your appreciation.  Just hearing a heartfelt \u201cthank you\u201d is wonderful. However, if you really want to do a gift then, as others have said, snacks are fabulous! Sometimes it\u2019s tough to get a break or have time to eat. Having some tasty grab-and-go snacks (cheese and crackers, fresh fruit platter, chips and dip etc.)  or recieving a couple of hot pizzas (or other easy to eat, satisfying food) can be life-changing. Sweets and coffee are nice,  but we get a ton of that sort of thing from clients and reps and salespeople (at least at my clinic). I would avoid gifting a plant. It\u2019s an added responsibility for someone and a guilt trip if it dies.   The best gifts *our* staff has ever gotten have included sandwich or pizza delivery; fruit, veggie, or meat\/cheese\/cracker platters; special\/unique home-cooked family recipes (we have a client that does Cucidati-aka Christmas fig cookies every year and they\u2019re *amazing*); or practical gifts-I carry a collapsible shopping bag I got from a client over 3 years ago every day. She brought a variety of beautiful  tea towels, pot holders, aprons, and collapsible shopping bags for us to choose from back after a trip she took to London. It was awesome to choose what I liked from a variety of gifts!","human_ref_B":"A kind review on google and a nice mug with a coffee gift card!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6783.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0687e","c_root_id_B":"ek00b7f","created_at_utc_A":1554269234,"created_at_utc_B":1554262912,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"A nice card or letter addressed to the *entire* staff is always apreciated. Support staff is often \u201cinvisible\u201d and unrecognized. You know your veterinarian is amazing, but you may not be aware of all of the other staff members that helped you vet have the time and resources to be so amazing to you and your pet.    You absolutely don\u2019t need to include any sort of gift to express your appreciation.  Just hearing a heartfelt \u201cthank you\u201d is wonderful. However, if you really want to do a gift then, as others have said, snacks are fabulous! Sometimes it\u2019s tough to get a break or have time to eat. Having some tasty grab-and-go snacks (cheese and crackers, fresh fruit platter, chips and dip etc.)  or recieving a couple of hot pizzas (or other easy to eat, satisfying food) can be life-changing. Sweets and coffee are nice,  but we get a ton of that sort of thing from clients and reps and salespeople (at least at my clinic). I would avoid gifting a plant. It\u2019s an added responsibility for someone and a guilt trip if it dies.   The best gifts *our* staff has ever gotten have included sandwich or pizza delivery; fruit, veggie, or meat\/cheese\/cracker platters; special\/unique home-cooked family recipes (we have a client that does Cucidati-aka Christmas fig cookies every year and they\u2019re *amazing*); or practical gifts-I carry a collapsible shopping bag I got from a client over 3 years ago every day. She brought a variety of beautiful  tea towels, pot holders, aprons, and collapsible shopping bags for us to choose from back after a trip she took to London. It was awesome to choose what I liked from a variety of gifts!","human_ref_B":"Snacks for the whole staff!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6322.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzx0rw","c_root_id_B":"ek09lcg","created_at_utc_A":1554260016,"created_at_utc_B":1554273871,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","human_ref_B":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13855.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzx0rw","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554260016,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Food of any kind, always goes down well. We often don\u2019t have time for a real lunch break.","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":993.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek09lcg","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554273871,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14848.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek09lcg","c_root_id_B":"ejzzsux","created_at_utc_A":1554273871,"created_at_utc_B":1554262451,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","human_ref_B":"A kind review on google and a nice mug with a coffee gift card!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11420.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek070e5","c_root_id_B":"ek09lcg","created_at_utc_A":1554270234,"created_at_utc_B":1554273871,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"My dog swallowed some weird thing and had to be hospitalized and we appreciated the vet and the techs so much for treating my baby so well. I bought a basket and filled it candies, home baked cookies (ingredients listed in case of allergies) and a thank you note that was signed and had a personal message.","human_ref_B":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3637.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek00b7f","c_root_id_B":"ek09lcg","created_at_utc_A":1554262912,"created_at_utc_B":1554273871,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Snacks for the whole staff!","human_ref_B":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10959.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek09lcg","c_root_id_B":"ek097qy","created_at_utc_A":1554273871,"created_at_utc_B":1554273308,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, it's thank you cards I personally cherish the most. I often look at them after I've had a particularly rough day.","human_ref_B":"My vet loves cheese and granola (on the go food), she is tired of sweet stuff (cakes etc.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":563.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzzsux","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554262451,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"A kind review on google and a nice mug with a coffee gift card!","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3428.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzvtla","c_root_id_B":"ek070e5","created_at_utc_A":1554259023,"created_at_utc_B":1554270234,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","human_ref_B":"My dog swallowed some weird thing and had to be hospitalized and we appreciated the vet and the techs so much for treating my baby so well. I bought a basket and filled it candies, home baked cookies (ingredients listed in case of allergies) and a thank you note that was signed and had a personal message.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11211.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ejzvtla","c_root_id_B":"ek0juaq","created_at_utc_A":1554259023,"created_at_utc_B":1554290793,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","human_ref_B":"I have brought my vet the makings of yogurt parfaits (yogurt, granola, fruit) along with all bowls and spoons and cookies. He was very appreciative as it was also for his staff. I read through the posts as I want to do another thing for him... he has been amazing.   I\u2019m sorry your dog was so ill!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31770.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0s4ja","c_root_id_B":"ejzvtla","created_at_utc_A":1554298557,"created_at_utc_B":1554259023,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for posting this question! I literally just pulled up this sub so I can ask the same thing! Our vets office is also a doggie day camp so they have been with me through everything in the last year I\u2019ve gotten my girl. I\u2019m leaning towards the handwritten note\/ good online review\/ and maybe some delivered non-perishable snacks \ud83e\udd17  Also, so glad Poof is feeling better! Xoxo","human_ref_B":"When my favorite vet left my animal hospital I sent her and the staff an Edible Arrangement. I know she and the staff really liked it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39534.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek00b7f","c_root_id_B":"ek070e5","created_at_utc_A":1554262912,"created_at_utc_B":1554270234,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Snacks for the whole staff!","human_ref_B":"My dog swallowed some weird thing and had to be hospitalized and we appreciated the vet and the techs so much for treating my baby so well. I bought a basket and filled it candies, home baked cookies (ingredients listed in case of allergies) and a thank you note that was signed and had a personal message.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7322.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek00b7f","c_root_id_B":"ek0juaq","created_at_utc_A":1554262912,"created_at_utc_B":1554290793,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Snacks for the whole staff!","human_ref_B":"I have brought my vet the makings of yogurt parfaits (yogurt, granola, fruit) along with all bowls and spoons and cookies. He was very appreciative as it was also for his staff. I read through the posts as I want to do another thing for him... he has been amazing.   I\u2019m sorry your dog was so ill!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27881.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0juaq","c_root_id_B":"ek097qy","created_at_utc_A":1554290793,"created_at_utc_B":1554273308,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I have brought my vet the makings of yogurt parfaits (yogurt, granola, fruit) along with all bowls and spoons and cookies. He was very appreciative as it was also for his staff. I read through the posts as I want to do another thing for him... he has been amazing.   I\u2019m sorry your dog was so ill!","human_ref_B":"My vet loves cheese and granola (on the go food), she is tired of sweet stuff (cakes etc.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17485.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0s4ja","c_root_id_B":"ek00b7f","created_at_utc_A":1554298557,"created_at_utc_B":1554262912,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for posting this question! I literally just pulled up this sub so I can ask the same thing! Our vets office is also a doggie day camp so they have been with me through everything in the last year I\u2019ve gotten my girl. I\u2019m leaning towards the handwritten note\/ good online review\/ and maybe some delivered non-perishable snacks \ud83e\udd17  Also, so glad Poof is feeling better! Xoxo","human_ref_B":"Snacks for the whole staff!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35645.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0s4ja","c_root_id_B":"ek097qy","created_at_utc_A":1554298557,"created_at_utc_B":1554273308,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Thank you for posting this question! I literally just pulled up this sub so I can ask the same thing! Our vets office is also a doggie day camp so they have been with me through everything in the last year I\u2019ve gotten my girl. I\u2019m leaning towards the handwritten note\/ good online review\/ and maybe some delivered non-perishable snacks \ud83e\udd17  Also, so glad Poof is feeling better! Xoxo","human_ref_B":"My vet loves cheese and granola (on the go food), she is tired of sweet stuff (cakes etc.)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25249.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"b8rbsy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"What would be a good thank you gift for our vet? Our pomeranian, Poof, had an acute attack of pancreatitis last week that scared the heck out me.  She was fine when I went to work in the morning, but when I came home at lunch she was clearly extremely ill.  I rushed her to the nearest vet, not our usual vet.  The doctor we saw was so kind and compassionate and helpful. I think we will probably switch to her for good she was so wonderful. She diagnosed Poof with pancreatitis really quickly and got her started right away on meds and fluids.  Poof is much better now.    We are going back for a follow up visit next week, and I'd like to get the doctor a thank you gift.  I don't really know much of anything about her though is the problem.  I was thinking possibly a plant or maybe some chocolates or coffee.  We are in Dallas, Texas if that helps at all.  Vets of Reddit, what would you like to receive from a thankful client?  Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"ek0mihp","c_root_id_B":"ek0s4ja","created_at_utc_A":1554293637,"created_at_utc_B":1554298557,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We like cards! They\u2019re something to look back on when having a rough day. A good review with her name specifically mentioned is also really nice.","human_ref_B":"Thank you for posting this question! I literally just pulled up this sub so I can ask the same thing! Our vets office is also a doggie day camp so they have been with me through everything in the last year I\u2019ve gotten my girl. I\u2019m leaning towards the handwritten note\/ good online review\/ and maybe some delivered non-perishable snacks \ud83e\udd17  Also, so glad Poof is feeling better! Xoxo","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4920.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"v03zlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My 8 day old puppy won't stop rolling over. I picked her up this morning to feed her, and when she woke up, she immediately started rolling over. To her right. Over and over again. She's been doing this all day, and only stops when we forcefully hold her down, or when she sleeps. It's affecting her eating as well cause she won't stop while she eats, or when she pees or poops.   I'm starting to get worried that she may have brain damage...      She only 8 or 9 days old, and an orphan, along with her sister. I found her under our house 2 Fridays ago, and my dad said that he heard them being born the night before. The mom took the rest of the litter and left my puppy and her sister alone. I pulled them from under the house and I fed them, and kept them warm. I plan to keep them forever, and I wanna do everything I can to make them happy, healthy and safe.      She's a 8 or 9 day old puppy, we couldn't find the parents so we don't know the breed yet, but we think maybe some variation of hound.   Last i weighed her was 2 days ago, and she weighed 15.20 Oz.   My general location is North\/North East Florida.","c_root_id_A":"iaf2a42","c_root_id_B":"iaek11x","created_at_utc_A":1653825769,"created_at_utc_B":1653810099,"score_A":78,"score_B":76,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, you need a vet first. They can help explain bottle feeding schedules, amounts, when to start dewormers (very soon) and what dewormer to use at what age, proper techniques for keeping the puppies warm, and evaluate if there are any medical issues. Also discuss vaccination schedule, and whether the early abandonment means the vet wants to use the high risk vaccination schedule.   I am a foster that specializes in whelping and maternity fostering. Start by reading the following link:  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/i1qj5w\/newborn\\_puppies\\_abandoned\\_by\\_their\\_mother\\_so\\_i\/fzz8m42\/?context=3  You can watch videos of my wife and I bottle feeding puppies by following the links in the following post. Have the vet show you the proper technique for bottle feeding, especially since your pup is having trouble with it. Scroll down to find the videos that occurred when they were 2 weeks old. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/SeasDiversReef\/comments\/lxudy2\/tales\\_of\\_arcadia\\_litter\\_information\/  Additional Information  * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j5maq4\/mother\\_rejects\\_newborn\\_puppywhat\\_should\\_i\\_do\/g7t31y9?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j03vje\/urgent\\_help\\_needed\\_rejected\\_weak\\_newborn\\_puppy\/g6ofd7a?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/dogs\/comments\/i1i55s\/help\\_my\\_puppies\\_are\\_in\\_danger\\_please\\_help\/fzzdcdh?context=3 * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/ttvqpj\/3\\_week\\_old\\_orphan\\_pups\\_help\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/swnsez\/help\\_2\\_week\\_old\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/935io7\/question\\_about\\_newborn\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/fosterdogs\/comments\/fmmu2d\/my\\_very\\_first\\_foster\\_is\\_a\\_mom\\_and\\_5\\_puppies\\_they\/","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but that\u2019s not good. You need a vet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15670.0,"score_ratio":1.0263157895}
{"post_id":"v03zlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My 8 day old puppy won't stop rolling over. I picked her up this morning to feed her, and when she woke up, she immediately started rolling over. To her right. Over and over again. She's been doing this all day, and only stops when we forcefully hold her down, or when she sleeps. It's affecting her eating as well cause she won't stop while she eats, or when she pees or poops.   I'm starting to get worried that she may have brain damage...      She only 8 or 9 days old, and an orphan, along with her sister. I found her under our house 2 Fridays ago, and my dad said that he heard them being born the night before. The mom took the rest of the litter and left my puppy and her sister alone. I pulled them from under the house and I fed them, and kept them warm. I plan to keep them forever, and I wanna do everything I can to make them happy, healthy and safe.      She's a 8 or 9 day old puppy, we couldn't find the parents so we don't know the breed yet, but we think maybe some variation of hound.   Last i weighed her was 2 days ago, and she weighed 15.20 Oz.   My general location is North\/North East Florida.","c_root_id_A":"iaf2a42","c_root_id_B":"iaf0z93","created_at_utc_A":1653825769,"created_at_utc_B":1653824839,"score_A":78,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, you need a vet first. They can help explain bottle feeding schedules, amounts, when to start dewormers (very soon) and what dewormer to use at what age, proper techniques for keeping the puppies warm, and evaluate if there are any medical issues. Also discuss vaccination schedule, and whether the early abandonment means the vet wants to use the high risk vaccination schedule.   I am a foster that specializes in whelping and maternity fostering. Start by reading the following link:  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/i1qj5w\/newborn\\_puppies\\_abandoned\\_by\\_their\\_mother\\_so\\_i\/fzz8m42\/?context=3  You can watch videos of my wife and I bottle feeding puppies by following the links in the following post. Have the vet show you the proper technique for bottle feeding, especially since your pup is having trouble with it. Scroll down to find the videos that occurred when they were 2 weeks old. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/SeasDiversReef\/comments\/lxudy2\/tales\\_of\\_arcadia\\_litter\\_information\/  Additional Information  * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j5maq4\/mother\\_rejects\\_newborn\\_puppywhat\\_should\\_i\\_do\/g7t31y9?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j03vje\/urgent\\_help\\_needed\\_rejected\\_weak\\_newborn\\_puppy\/g6ofd7a?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/dogs\/comments\/i1i55s\/help\\_my\\_puppies\\_are\\_in\\_danger\\_please\\_help\/fzzdcdh?context=3 * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/ttvqpj\/3\\_week\\_old\\_orphan\\_pups\\_help\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/swnsez\/help\\_2\\_week\\_old\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/935io7\/question\\_about\\_newborn\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/fosterdogs\/comments\/fmmu2d\/my\\_very\\_first\\_foster\\_is\\_a\\_mom\\_and\\_5\\_puppies\\_they\/","human_ref_B":"You need to take both puppies to your vet. They should be with their mother at this age and I know this isn't your fault and you are doing a good thing helping them what it means is they need to be monitored closely and under a Vet's care.   As far as the rolling over there could be a number of reasons why but to help your vet help you I would take video of it to show them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":930.0,"score_ratio":1.4716981132}
{"post_id":"v03zlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My 8 day old puppy won't stop rolling over. I picked her up this morning to feed her, and when she woke up, she immediately started rolling over. To her right. Over and over again. She's been doing this all day, and only stops when we forcefully hold her down, or when she sleeps. It's affecting her eating as well cause she won't stop while she eats, or when she pees or poops.   I'm starting to get worried that she may have brain damage...      She only 8 or 9 days old, and an orphan, along with her sister. I found her under our house 2 Fridays ago, and my dad said that he heard them being born the night before. The mom took the rest of the litter and left my puppy and her sister alone. I pulled them from under the house and I fed them, and kept them warm. I plan to keep them forever, and I wanna do everything I can to make them happy, healthy and safe.      She's a 8 or 9 day old puppy, we couldn't find the parents so we don't know the breed yet, but we think maybe some variation of hound.   Last i weighed her was 2 days ago, and she weighed 15.20 Oz.   My general location is North\/North East Florida.","c_root_id_A":"iaf2a42","c_root_id_B":"iaeowzi","created_at_utc_A":1653825769,"created_at_utc_B":1653814485,"score_A":78,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, you need a vet first. They can help explain bottle feeding schedules, amounts, when to start dewormers (very soon) and what dewormer to use at what age, proper techniques for keeping the puppies warm, and evaluate if there are any medical issues. Also discuss vaccination schedule, and whether the early abandonment means the vet wants to use the high risk vaccination schedule.   I am a foster that specializes in whelping and maternity fostering. Start by reading the following link:  https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/i1qj5w\/newborn\\_puppies\\_abandoned\\_by\\_their\\_mother\\_so\\_i\/fzz8m42\/?context=3  You can watch videos of my wife and I bottle feeding puppies by following the links in the following post. Have the vet show you the proper technique for bottle feeding, especially since your pup is having trouble with it. Scroll down to find the videos that occurred when they were 2 weeks old. https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/SeasDiversReef\/comments\/lxudy2\/tales\\_of\\_arcadia\\_litter\\_information\/  Additional Information  * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j5maq4\/mother\\_rejects\\_newborn\\_puppywhat\\_should\\_i\\_do\/g7t31y9?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/j03vje\/urgent\\_help\\_needed\\_rejected\\_weak\\_newborn\\_puppy\/g6ofd7a?context=3 * http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/dogs\/comments\/i1i55s\/help\\_my\\_puppies\\_are\\_in\\_danger\\_please\\_help\/fzzdcdh?context=3 * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/ttvqpj\/3\\_week\\_old\\_orphan\\_pups\\_help\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/puppy101\/comments\/swnsez\/help\\_2\\_week\\_old\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskVet\/comments\/935io7\/question\\_about\\_newborn\\_puppies\/ * https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/fosterdogs\/comments\/fmmu2d\/my\\_very\\_first\\_foster\\_is\\_a\\_mom\\_and\\_5\\_puppies\\_they\/","human_ref_B":"Definitely vet appointment time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11284.0,"score_ratio":2.3636363636}
{"post_id":"v03zlo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My 8 day old puppy won't stop rolling over. I picked her up this morning to feed her, and when she woke up, she immediately started rolling over. To her right. Over and over again. She's been doing this all day, and only stops when we forcefully hold her down, or when she sleeps. It's affecting her eating as well cause she won't stop while she eats, or when she pees or poops.   I'm starting to get worried that she may have brain damage...      She only 8 or 9 days old, and an orphan, along with her sister. I found her under our house 2 Fridays ago, and my dad said that he heard them being born the night before. The mom took the rest of the litter and left my puppy and her sister alone. I pulled them from under the house and I fed them, and kept them warm. I plan to keep them forever, and I wanna do everything I can to make them happy, healthy and safe.      She's a 8 or 9 day old puppy, we couldn't find the parents so we don't know the breed yet, but we think maybe some variation of hound.   Last i weighed her was 2 days ago, and she weighed 15.20 Oz.   My general location is North\/North East Florida.","c_root_id_A":"iaeowzi","c_root_id_B":"iaf0z93","created_at_utc_A":1653814485,"created_at_utc_B":1653824839,"score_A":33,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Definitely vet appointment time.","human_ref_B":"You need to take both puppies to your vet. They should be with their mother at this age and I know this isn't your fault and you are doing a good thing helping them what it means is they need to be monitored closely and under a Vet's care.   As far as the rolling over there could be a number of reasons why but to help your vet help you I would take video of it to show them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10354.0,"score_ratio":1.6060606061}
{"post_id":"3sxc8s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My puppy is having a cluster seizure continuously 23times this day 5mins after I gave him Amoxicillin Betamox. It was prescribe to me by the Vet that i visted. Now my puppy calmed down and it wont move just sleeping and so weak and it curls like armadillo. Species: Dog  Age: 31  Sex\/Neuter status: Male  Breed: Unknown  Body weight:  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location:","c_root_id_A":"cx167w3","c_root_id_B":"cx16eb8","created_at_utc_A":1447615243,"created_at_utc_B":1447615507,"score_A":7,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You're already at the vet right?","human_ref_B":"Your dog needs to go emergency ASAP. He could die having seizures with that frequency.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":264.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"t2p0qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it common for a cat to break it's leg in a fall? Indoor cat, friend claims he fell off a counter or cabinet but idk I have my reasons to be suspicious. As a vet is it common to see an agile 2 year old cat break a bone from a short fall while indoors?","c_root_id_A":"hynw6tb","c_root_id_B":"hyncsh4","created_at_utc_A":1645981172,"created_at_utc_B":1645973134,"score_A":32,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"As a tech I\u2019ve seen it. The shorter the distance to the ground, the shorter time the cat has to \u201cright\u201d itself.   Has your friend given you reason to believe he is injuring his pets?","human_ref_B":"How high was the counter?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8038.0,"score_ratio":3.5555555556}
{"post_id":"t2p0qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it common for a cat to break it's leg in a fall? Indoor cat, friend claims he fell off a counter or cabinet but idk I have my reasons to be suspicious. As a vet is it common to see an agile 2 year old cat break a bone from a short fall while indoors?","c_root_id_A":"hyn8hic","c_root_id_B":"hynw6tb","created_at_utc_A":1645971038,"created_at_utc_B":1645981172,"score_A":2,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"As a tech I\u2019ve seen it. The shorter the distance to the ground, the shorter time the cat has to \u201cright\u201d itself.   Has your friend given you reason to believe he is injuring his pets?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10134.0,"score_ratio":16.0}
{"post_id":"t2p0qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it common for a cat to break it's leg in a fall? Indoor cat, friend claims he fell off a counter or cabinet but idk I have my reasons to be suspicious. As a vet is it common to see an agile 2 year old cat break a bone from a short fall while indoors?","c_root_id_A":"hyncsh4","c_root_id_B":"hyn8hic","created_at_utc_A":1645973134,"created_at_utc_B":1645971038,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"How high was the counter?","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2096.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"t2p0qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it common for a cat to break it's leg in a fall? Indoor cat, friend claims he fell off a counter or cabinet but idk I have my reasons to be suspicious. As a vet is it common to see an agile 2 year old cat break a bone from a short fall while indoors?","c_root_id_A":"hyn8hic","c_root_id_B":"hyoalw3","created_at_utc_A":1645971038,"created_at_utc_B":1645986713,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I think they wouldnt really fall from a cabinet or counter, other instances i would think they fall accidentally would be when they get scared or sleep on the edge of something elevated then fall uncontrollably which are both unlikely \"i think\" not unless someone or something triggers them to do so. But other than that they would rather jump softly than let themselves fall since thats what they naturally do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15675.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"vpy2eb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Cat accidentally ate dogs Gabapentin My cat ate a capsule of my dogs 100mg gabapentin. Will she be okay? She\u2019s 3 years old and weighs about 8 pounds. She ate it not even 10 minutes ago and she seems normal so far. Pet poison control charges $75 just to tell me via phone call if I can just monitor her or if I have to take her in.   Species: cat Age: 3 Weight: about 8lbs Location: California Breed: unknown Vaccines: up to date Spayed: yes Medical history: none, common respiratory infection when she was a kitten History: found her in a field","c_root_id_A":"iem147w","c_root_id_B":"iemi8yq","created_at_utc_A":1656790020,"created_at_utc_B":1656798034,"score_A":48,"score_B":49,"human_ref_A":"Pet poison control is amazing and I am so freaking thankful they exist.  Your cat will be fine.","human_ref_B":"100mg of Gaba is frequently used in cats and perfectly safe, though she may become a bit sedate and uncoordinated, so keep her from jumping up to high places where she could fall until it wears off (around 8 hours or so)  Just for future reference though, pet poison control can tell you so much more that just \"monitor or go to vet\". Vets frequently use this service as we don't know every toxin in the world. If you call the ASPCA poison helpline, they'll start a file and if you do have to go to the vet, they will continue to provide your vet with information and support as needed. It's a great service and very useful!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8014.0,"score_ratio":1.0208333333}
{"post_id":"bi05e5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Question about my kitten that we just had to put to sleep... So alright here's the basics... Name: Blackie Age 11mo. Weight: 4lbs (not a typo) Neutered: yes  He has a fairly long history as we've been back and forth to the vet a ton of times since January... Here goes what I can remember. First vet visit was because he was only having small amounts of stools, always diarrhea, with blood and clear mucus. Vet said probably worms, gave a bunch of meds: albon, metronidazole & one other I cannot remember but was a dewormer or antibiotic... It's something common and it's on the tip of my tongue.   Anyway didn't work. Bring him back, she says ok maybe it's giardia and treats with panacur. That didn't work either. After that they kept him all day, did bloodwork & an xray, kept him all day for a barium swallow to make sure he is passing everything fine. He was cleared and sent home. They could not retrieve a stool sample all day so I was sent home and tasked with this. Was told by a different vet when I picked him up that some of his bloodwork was abnormal and consistent with FIP and that if it wasn't tritrichomonas, which they suspected but wanted to confirm with PCR because of the side effects of ronidazole.   Finally get a stool sample a few days later and they send it off for a PCR test. Was positive for tritrichomonas. Treated with ronidazole, standard dose for 14 days. Seemed better but got worse again, so they retreated him thinking maybe since he's so small and weak it wasn't cleared out of him completely. I finished that 14 day regimen Saturday. In the meantime I've forgotten that they ever mentioned FIP to me and he's seeming more bright and alert so I take that as a positive sign.  I spend the next day bleaching the litter boxes and I also gave him a bath cause he had made a mess of himself with feces and was sickly and not really cleaning well. I will note but I'm not sure if it matters that he was weird about his food this whole time. LOVES wet food, would cry and cry for it and I fed him as often as he wanted cause he was so small and I just wanted to get weight on him but he would get picky and food he previously loved, he wouldn't eat. Never knew what was up with that but it was pretty discouraging. Needless to say he never gained any weight back, he started out at 6.5lbs when I initially brought him to the vet and just to clarify he was still probably 6mo. Old kitten size & the vet told me his growth was probably stunted.  After the bath I gave him on Sunday he started acting a little weird, like wobbly and wasn't walking well and I was concerned maybe I got water in his ears and I read online that it's generally harmless and will clear up so I didn't think much of it. I blow dried him a bit with my hair dryer on low and then let him rest on a heated blanket.   I woke up on Thursday morning and he wasn't moving. He was breathing but not moving, I picked him up his eyes seemed OK and responsive, I asked him if he was hungry because usually he excitedly responds but he didn't. I tried to feed him but he wouldn't eat. He tried to get up and wobbled and fell over. I immediately brought him to the vet (a different one closer to my house cause this was an emergency) and they took him back to try and get blood and evaluate him. They got his history from my other vet. The vet came and told me his gums were pale and that they couldn't even draw blood cause he was so frail and she basically said his heart isn't pumping enough blood and that it's not looking good. That I could transfer him to a specialty hospital for a blood transfusion and hospitalization but the outcome would still be uncertain. By the time she brought him back to me he was already starting to pass, so we opted to have him euthanized. She said his symptoms were consistent with FIP from what she can tell and that's when I remembered the other vet mentioned that at the very beginning.   What is really eating at me though and it's probably irrational is the bath I gave him. Did I make him worse by giving him a bath?? Did his body get too cold and the blood flow got worse and never recovered? He seemed to go downhill straight after that, though there were no clear signs, looking back that's all I can think. Please help me with some closure because all I can do is picture him dying on the table and thinking that I killed him by giving him a bath \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d   If you read this far thank you so much for caring about my sweet baby boy. He was so, so special to me and even though I had him for a short time I hope that he didn't spend these last few months suffering or in pain. He didn't seem like he was but I know cats can hide it well. I'm just a mess over this.","c_root_id_A":"elx6knw","c_root_id_B":"elx6lnm","created_at_utc_A":1556384102,"created_at_utc_B":1556384123,"score_A":18,"score_B":79,"human_ref_A":"I can\u2019t say if the bath caused anything but regardless, please don\u2019t be so hard on yourself.  You are going through enough with just having to put your cat down.  You gave him the bath with good intentions and it sounded like he needed it.  I\u2019m sure, had you known what would happen you might have through differently, but the point is you didn\u2019t know.   I\u2019m so very sorry for your loss!   It\u2019s never easy losing a pet even if they were only in your life for a short time.","human_ref_B":"You did nothing wrong by bathing him.  Failure to thrive in kittens always has us on high alert for FIP, and if the vet previously mentioned labwork consistent with potential FIP, the prognosis was grave.  I\u2019m glad you had him and loved him for as long as you could, and that when the time came you made the right decision for him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21.0,"score_ratio":4.3888888889}
{"post_id":"3v07ie","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My co-worker has his cat on a vegan diet, and insists the animal is healthy. Is this really the case, and is a vegan diet viable long-term. Species: Cat  Age: Young adult  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Long-hair  Body weight: Average  History: Unknown  Clinical signs: \"...latest vet visit confirms that she's in good health and her bloodwork is fine\"  Duration:  Your general location: Northeast US","c_root_id_A":"cxja66z","c_root_id_B":"cxj7ps9","created_at_utc_A":1448990175,"created_at_utc_B":1448986481,"score_A":17,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"No, it's not, as the cat is an obligate carnivore. If your coworker wants a vegan pet, they should get a rabbit.  Edit: The bloodwork is not really an argument, as the body is very good at maintaining normal blood chemistry even in the presence of severe malnutrition.","human_ref_B":"I remember atleast one case of a vegan kitten that ended up dead. There is also a huge risk of malnutrition, but I don't know if there are any numbers on the prevalence of nutritional deficiencies among cats on a vegan diet. This is a fairly new fad.   Your co-worker is trying to push his\/her ideology on it's pet. Cats are obligate carnivores and I really don't see any reason why he should feel bad for feeding his cat what it needs. If even that is too much, I don't see why veganism would allow to keep a cat malnourished.  When the cat is allowed to go outside, it might be able to catch prey. I'm not sure however if that will be enough because the vegan food might satiate most of it's hunger.  (I'm only a vet student)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3694.0,"score_ratio":1.7}
{"post_id":"3v07ie","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My co-worker has his cat on a vegan diet, and insists the animal is healthy. Is this really the case, and is a vegan diet viable long-term. Species: Cat  Age: Young adult  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Long-hair  Body weight: Average  History: Unknown  Clinical signs: \"...latest vet visit confirms that she's in good health and her bloodwork is fine\"  Duration:  Your general location: Northeast US","c_root_id_A":"cxjai64","c_root_id_B":"cxj7ps9","created_at_utc_A":1448990653,"created_at_utc_B":1448986481,"score_A":11,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I was the only vegan in my vet school class, and even I would never have started my cat on a vegan diet. Having volunteered enough at Farm Sanctuary, I know that even they did not have success (at least as of a few years ago) trying to feed their barn cats a vegan diet. No cats died in this case, to be clear, but at least one of the cats became unwell enough to have them switch back in the cats' best interest. That said, I think that suggesting necessary monitoring may be more helpful than just saying \"this is a bad idea, and you should quit.\"   If a talking cat walked into an appointment and convinced me they wanted to eat a vegan diet, I'd at LEAST ask them to come in every couple of months for inexpensive, relatively-little-blood-requiring Quick Assessment Tests (QATs) to check kidney, blood glucose, red blood cell values, and total protein, an eye exam, and a chance for me to listen to his or her heart and lungs.","human_ref_B":"I remember atleast one case of a vegan kitten that ended up dead. There is also a huge risk of malnutrition, but I don't know if there are any numbers on the prevalence of nutritional deficiencies among cats on a vegan diet. This is a fairly new fad.   Your co-worker is trying to push his\/her ideology on it's pet. Cats are obligate carnivores and I really don't see any reason why he should feel bad for feeding his cat what it needs. If even that is too much, I don't see why veganism would allow to keep a cat malnourished.  When the cat is allowed to go outside, it might be able to catch prey. I'm not sure however if that will be enough because the vegan food might satiate most of it's hunger.  (I'm only a vet student)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4172.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"3v07ie","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My co-worker has his cat on a vegan diet, and insists the animal is healthy. Is this really the case, and is a vegan diet viable long-term. Species: Cat  Age: Young adult  Sex\/Neuter status: Female, spayed  Breed: Long-hair  Body weight: Average  History: Unknown  Clinical signs: \"...latest vet visit confirms that she's in good health and her bloodwork is fine\"  Duration:  Your general location: Northeast US","c_root_id_A":"cxjypdt","c_root_id_B":"cxk36bo","created_at_utc_A":1449025859,"created_at_utc_B":1449033925,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Cats require meat in their diets. They are obligate carnivores. He's killing his cat. It'll happen sooner or later if he doesn't change this.","human_ref_B":"I'm vegan but my carnivorous animals are not. If your friend doesn't want to buy what the cat needs to be healthy than he shouldn't have a cat. If the animal gets sick or unhealthy wouldn't that be animal neglect or abuse? I know he doesn't want to harm his cat but he might end up doing so in the long run.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8066.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2dzkl3","c_root_id_B":"j2dyxl3","created_at_utc_A":1672501291,"created_at_utc_B":1672501011,"score_A":135,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You can't purchase insurance for something that already happened. You can ask the clinic what financing options they accept. Most, if not all clinics accept care credit, just make sure to read the terms and conditions closely. I've also heard of scratch pay, or you could consider a go fund me.","human_ref_B":"Yeah that seems about right, it deoends on the country and state, if you are in the us, which state?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":280.0,"score_ratio":11.25}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2epjzq","c_root_id_B":"j2ed3sa","created_at_utc_A":1672511902,"created_at_utc_B":1672506928,"score_A":61,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Insurance can not be used to claim for things that have already happened. Pet insurance policies need to be taken out in advance, just like any other insurance.  Your best bet would be to look into credit programs like Care Credit","human_ref_B":"Currently at the vet getting an X-ray and blood work for a cat.   Lemonade has some decent insurance options for not a lot of money. If not that, legitimately start a pet health savings account and slowly load that with $50 a month. Keep what you don\u2019t spend after $4K. This should get you through most major incidents. Speaking from some amount of experience here (feline lymphoma, for one). You don\u2019t want this to influence your tougher choices when they inevitably come up.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4974.0,"score_ratio":1.90625}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2epjzq","c_root_id_B":"j2dyxl3","created_at_utc_A":1672511902,"created_at_utc_B":1672501011,"score_A":61,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Insurance can not be used to claim for things that have already happened. Pet insurance policies need to be taken out in advance, just like any other insurance.  Your best bet would be to look into credit programs like Care Credit","human_ref_B":"Yeah that seems about right, it deoends on the country and state, if you are in the us, which state?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10891.0,"score_ratio":5.0833333333}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2ed3sa","c_root_id_B":"j2dyxl3","created_at_utc_A":1672506928,"created_at_utc_B":1672501011,"score_A":32,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Currently at the vet getting an X-ray and blood work for a cat.   Lemonade has some decent insurance options for not a lot of money. If not that, legitimately start a pet health savings account and slowly load that with $50 a month. Keep what you don\u2019t spend after $4K. This should get you through most major incidents. Speaking from some amount of experience here (feline lymphoma, for one). You don\u2019t want this to influence your tougher choices when they inevitably come up.","human_ref_B":"Yeah that seems about right, it deoends on the country and state, if you are in the us, which state?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5917.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2fsa33","c_root_id_B":"j2dyxl3","created_at_utc_A":1672528781,"created_at_utc_B":1672501011,"score_A":26,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Get pet insurance. Not for this incident, but for any future incidents. It helps a ton.","human_ref_B":"Yeah that seems about right, it deoends on the country and state, if you are in the us, which state?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27770.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2f18e6","c_root_id_B":"j2fsa33","created_at_utc_A":1672516782,"created_at_utc_B":1672528781,"score_A":11,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"$1600 isn\u2019t bad for your dog having a fractured rib. Imagine the cost if a person had to go to ER for the same thing. What would they do?  Put it on a credit card until you can pay it off, Apply for care credit, etc.","human_ref_B":"Get pet insurance. Not for this incident, but for any future incidents. It helps a ton.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11999.0,"score_ratio":2.3636363636}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2g8zdl","c_root_id_B":"j2fsjns","created_at_utc_A":1672536325,"created_at_utc_B":1672528903,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Scratchpay has a higher approval rate than Care Credit, but I\u2019d try both.  I see that I\u2019m a wee bit late though.","human_ref_B":"Humane society.  If you\u2019re low income they offer assistance with vet bills","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7422.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2fsjns","c_root_id_B":"j2ggv3q","created_at_utc_A":1672528903,"created_at_utc_B":1672540110,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Humane society.  If you\u2019re low income they offer assistance with vet bills","human_ref_B":"ask your vet office for resources regarding payment plans, or potentially organizations in your area that can assist.   i have always just had a back up credit card. it seems to be a better way to control long term interest in an emergency.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11207.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"zzwhc3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Not prepared for Vet bill We had to rush our dog to the animal hospital due to him limping in pain, after running into a wall, hard(going blind).  Long story short he has a fractured rib but he will be okay. We were hit with a $1600 bill that we were not obviously prepared for. I wanted to know if there any resources or insurance companies that could reimburse or will cover at least some of the hospital bill. Any information would help!","c_root_id_A":"j2hbwrj","c_root_id_B":"j2fsjns","created_at_utc_A":1672559121,"created_at_utc_B":1672528903,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Read the subreddits FAQ it has a list of suggestions.","human_ref_B":"Humane society.  If you\u2019re low income they offer assistance with vet bills","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30218.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed8uino","c_root_id_B":"ed8vano","created_at_utc_A":1546629096,"created_at_utc_B":1546629604,"score_A":14,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"If you know anyone who sews, maybe they can make you a hip sling .","human_ref_B":"Lots of suggestions for hip slings. While you wait for one, a towel can also double as one temporarily.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":508.0,"score_ratio":4.0714285714}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed926cu","c_root_id_B":"ed96zgu","created_at_utc_A":1546634294,"created_at_utc_B":1546637703,"score_A":3,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Help em up harness.","human_ref_B":"My 15 year old who just passed loved her harness is was only 20 buck on amazon name brand lalawow it helped for two years and multiple washes and i used it to take her to the lake swimming and hiking..also instead of puppy pads get human ones from walmart get 30 of them for less than 20$ and they hold more also you can help dog poop while your there and present by putting ice cube on butt and it will help dog poop any other questions or advice pm lots of knowledge in this area","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3409.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed98ev7","c_root_id_B":"ed926cu","created_at_utc_A":1546638743,"created_at_utc_B":1546634294,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but regarding wheels- I\u2019ve heard that there are programs where you can get a used rig, use it until your boy passes, and then donate\/sell it back to the program. I haven\u2019t looked into it myself, but saw another redditor recommend it and have kept it in the back of my mind because my girl has complications from a car accident and will need a wheel harness one day.  I\u2019m not sure what your situation looks like, but it may be worth looking into if you can afford it; I\u2019d guess it\u2019s cheaper through such programs than buying new  Edit: Not the program I was thinking of but here\u2019s a site I found that lets you do a trial rental period for 8 weeks; if you return it they refund you 50% of what you paid: https:\/\/www.handicappedpets.com\/rentals\/  Edit 2: here\u2019s the actual program I was thinking of: https:\/\/eddieswheels.com","human_ref_B":"Help em up harness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4449.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed926cu","c_root_id_B":"ed9nbqj","created_at_utc_A":1546634294,"created_at_utc_B":1546650727,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Help em up harness.","human_ref_B":"Is he on any arthritis medication ?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16433.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed9j4mr","c_root_id_B":"ed9nbqj","created_at_utc_A":1546647182,"created_at_utc_B":1546650727,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Maybe try to look into laser therapy and underwater treadmill sessions in your area if you can afford it. It will help with inflammation and muscle strength. I have a pug who has similar issues after back surgery in July. I\u2019m also using adhesive paw pads on her back feet for added stability. Good luck!!","human_ref_B":"Is he on any arthritis medication ?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3545.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed9tnmb","c_root_id_B":"ed9j4mr","created_at_utc_A":1546656165,"created_at_utc_B":1546647182,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I definitely agree with the hip slings suggestions! But also, look into vets around your area that offer physical therapy and what-not. Check with his regular vet about pain management and mobility. There are places that offer acupuncture, laser therapy, physical rehab, etc to help your pup be the most mobile he can be \ud83d\ude0a good luck!","human_ref_B":"Maybe try to look into laser therapy and underwater treadmill sessions in your area if you can afford it. It will help with inflammation and muscle strength. I have a pug who has similar issues after back surgery in July. I\u2019m also using adhesive paw pads on her back feet for added stability. Good luck!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8983.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"ed9j4mr","c_root_id_B":"eda28mz","created_at_utc_A":1546647182,"created_at_utc_B":1546664038,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Maybe try to look into laser therapy and underwater treadmill sessions in your area if you can afford it. It will help with inflammation and muscle strength. I have a pug who has similar issues after back surgery in July. I\u2019m also using adhesive paw pads on her back feet for added stability. Good luck!!","human_ref_B":"Also, sorry to be morbid... consider his quality of life. Don't be selfish.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16856.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"aclda5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"My dog is 16, his back legs are really bad, so much that every time he tries to poop, his legs give out and he falls into it. Any options to help aid him? I've looked at dog wheels but I can't afford $400+ on wheels, when I know the poor guy is so old, he might not get much use. He mostly sleeps all day. Doesn't go out because he can't do the stairs, and he just prefers to be indoors now. We use puppy pads, but he keeps falling in his poop, then he has a hard time getting up and smashes it all over the floor and all over his body. He needs constant baths, and he's afraid of water, which makes it hard. Any other ideas for aiding him during his bowl movements? Or are the wheels my last choice? I wasn't sure how they worked either for when dogs go potty.","c_root_id_A":"eda26g6","c_root_id_B":"eda28mz","created_at_utc_A":1546663976,"created_at_utc_B":1546664038,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I've seen people make wheels from pvc and rollerblade caster wheels.","human_ref_B":"Also, sorry to be morbid... consider his quality of life. Don't be selfish.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":62.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"azo149","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My cat is screaming at another cat outside and wont stop A stray cat has been showing up to my house recently at night and my own cat goes insane when the stray shows up. At first I thought it was because my cat's male and the stray is quite possibly a female, but I'm uncertain because he's been neutered. Either way, I just need this to stop. Moving him away from the window doesn't help either because he just starts scratching at the door and meowing really loud. Any advice would be appreciated!","c_root_id_A":"ei9c2su","c_root_id_B":"ei95umc","created_at_utc_A":1552281894,"created_at_utc_B":1552275234,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Cats are territorial and your cat is trying to defend its territory. A motion activated sprinkler would probably keep strays from coming in your yard.","human_ref_B":"Are you sure the other cat is female? If it's actually male, it's probably territorial (could be territorial either way, I guess, but it's more likely with a male). And does he act like this with every cat he sees?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6660.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"aoowcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why does it seem that so many pets get cancer? How come so many pets develop cancer in comparison to humans? Is it just that I hear more about animals like dogs being diagnosed with it, or ?","c_root_id_A":"eg2kfll","c_root_id_B":"eg2jo9z","created_at_utc_A":1549688188,"created_at_utc_B":1549687387,"score_A":57,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"The above comments are all good reasons but I\u2019ll also throw in lack of genetic diversity, especially in the purebreds.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s because they can live so long relative to their biological clock. DNA gets damaged in a cell which then divides and passes it on through that cell\u2019s line as a mutation. They happen throughout our lives and if you get enough of them, boom, it\u2019s cancer.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":801.0,"score_ratio":1.4615384615}
{"post_id":"aoowcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why does it seem that so many pets get cancer? How come so many pets develop cancer in comparison to humans? Is it just that I hear more about animals like dogs being diagnosed with it, or ?","c_root_id_A":"eg2mm4f","c_root_id_B":"eg2mdsp","created_at_utc_A":1549690608,"created_at_utc_B":1549690338,"score_A":33,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019ll add to what everyone else is saying with some human data...  1 out of 2 men and 1 of 3 women will get cancer in their lives. The odds aren\u2019t particularly *good* for any of us","human_ref_B":"also, cancer in humans is frequently detected early: an abnormal Pap smear, an irregular mole, a small nodule.  when it's detected early, treatment can be very effective, and often it never becomes a serious issue.  with animals, subtleties can easily be overlooked until the disease has advanced to the point where removal and treatment becomes very difficult.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":270.0,"score_ratio":1.2692307692}
{"post_id":"aoowcw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Why does it seem that so many pets get cancer? How come so many pets develop cancer in comparison to humans? Is it just that I hear more about animals like dogs being diagnosed with it, or ?","c_root_id_A":"eg2y9n3","c_root_id_B":"eg2tgke","created_at_utc_A":1549708800,"created_at_utc_B":1549700437,"score_A":12,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I would also add that some of the other \"big killers\" of humans are not as common in dogs. A great example is heart disease, the heart conditions we see in dogs are vastly different than what kills many humans.","human_ref_B":"People are better at getting cancer than pets most of the time","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8363.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b0tg7","c_root_id_B":"f2aj5f7","created_at_utc_A":1570120290,"created_at_utc_B":1570113982,"score_A":24,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","human_ref_B":"It sounds simple but a handwritten card is a great gesture. People have sent us cards with pictures of their pets and we always appreciate it! Plus, we always save the pictures and put them up in the break room. We also do love food - even just cookies or donuts. A client once brought us a sandwich platter and that was really nice because we then we all just had that for lunch","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6308.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a8s6t","c_root_id_B":"f2b0tg7","created_at_utc_A":1570110111,"created_at_utc_B":1570120290,"score_A":6,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","human_ref_B":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10179.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aw2tk","c_root_id_B":"f2b0tg7","created_at_utc_A":1570118487,"created_at_utc_B":1570120290,"score_A":8,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet, but I have asked myself this question before. I wanted to say thank you to the vet and his staff for taking such great care of a really angry cat. He had 3 surgeries. I went with a sheet cake that was all fancy and written on it was \"sorry about hellcat\" because it was a running joke. They all seemed to really like it.","human_ref_B":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1803.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b0tg7","c_root_id_B":"f2aid0p","created_at_utc_A":1570120290,"created_at_utc_B":1570113702,"score_A":24,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6588.0,"score_ratio":4.8}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b0tg7","c_root_id_B":"f2a1kb8","created_at_utc_A":1570120290,"created_at_utc_B":1570107279,"score_A":24,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","human_ref_B":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13011.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aw61k","c_root_id_B":"f2b0tg7","created_at_utc_A":1570118524,"created_at_utc_B":1570120290,"score_A":3,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"I say food also but something like a basket on goodies that can be use divided up and doesn't take up a lot of room in the fridge or needs storage. Even just a plant to the office that isn't toxic to animals would be cool too. Or just give them a glowing review online in multiple websites.","human_ref_B":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1766.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b0tg7","c_root_id_B":"f2axpf2","created_at_utc_A":1570120290,"created_at_utc_B":1570119133,"score_A":24,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is it a sole proprietorship? If this doctor owns the business, a heartfelt positive online review is awesome. I work for a small local business and we live and die by online reviews.     Also everyone loves food. Homemade cookies?","human_ref_B":"I agree on bringing some goodies and a thank you card. It goes a long way, is personal and will be very much appreciated. I\u2019m glad your dog is doing better.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1157.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a8s6t","c_root_id_B":"f2aj5f7","created_at_utc_A":1570110111,"created_at_utc_B":1570113982,"score_A":6,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","human_ref_B":"It sounds simple but a handwritten card is a great gesture. People have sent us cards with pictures of their pets and we always appreciate it! Plus, we always save the pictures and put them up in the break room. We also do love food - even just cookies or donuts. A client once brought us a sandwich platter and that was really nice because we then we all just had that for lunch","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3871.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aid0p","c_root_id_B":"f2aj5f7","created_at_utc_A":1570113702,"created_at_utc_B":1570113982,"score_A":5,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","human_ref_B":"It sounds simple but a handwritten card is a great gesture. People have sent us cards with pictures of their pets and we always appreciate it! Plus, we always save the pictures and put them up in the break room. We also do love food - even just cookies or donuts. A client once brought us a sandwich platter and that was really nice because we then we all just had that for lunch","labels":0,"seconds_difference":280.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aj5f7","c_root_id_B":"f2a1kb8","created_at_utc_A":1570113982,"created_at_utc_B":1570107279,"score_A":13,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It sounds simple but a handwritten card is a great gesture. People have sent us cards with pictures of their pets and we always appreciate it! Plus, we always save the pictures and put them up in the break room. We also do love food - even just cookies or donuts. A client once brought us a sandwich platter and that was really nice because we then we all just had that for lunch","human_ref_B":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6703.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a8s6t","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570110111,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":6,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11818.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b5680","c_root_id_B":"f2aw2tk","created_at_utc_A":1570121929,"created_at_utc_B":1570118487,"score_A":13,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet, but I have asked myself this question before. I wanted to say thank you to the vet and his staff for taking such great care of a really angry cat. He had 3 surgeries. I went with a sheet cake that was all fancy and written on it was \"sorry about hellcat\" because it was a running joke. They all seemed to really like it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3442.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b321a","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570121138,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":8,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":791.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b5680","c_root_id_B":"f2aid0p","created_at_utc_A":1570121929,"created_at_utc_B":1570113702,"score_A":13,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8227.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a1kb8","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570107279,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":4,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14650.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aw61k","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570118524,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":3,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I say food also but something like a basket on goodies that can be use divided up and doesn't take up a lot of room in the fridge or needs storage. Even just a plant to the office that isn't toxic to animals would be cool too. Or just give them a glowing review online in multiple websites.","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3405.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b4jdk","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570121691,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":3,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I vote for a card, in person delivery with saying thank you in person and reviews online about their service on every platform imaginable. Google, Facebook, yelp, insta, whatever they have. Maybe some food, but nowadays so many ppl have food sensitivities, (me included) that I prefer words and reviews way more. \ud83e\udd13","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":238.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2axpf2","c_root_id_B":"f2b5680","created_at_utc_A":1570119133,"created_at_utc_B":1570121929,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I agree on bringing some goodies and a thank you card. It goes a long way, is personal and will be very much appreciated. I\u2019m glad your dog is doing better.","human_ref_B":"Please write this review for them on their social media! Google review or Facebook, it's a huge gift to a clinic too that people will share their positive experience and vouge for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2796.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aw2tk","c_root_id_B":"f2a8s6t","created_at_utc_A":1570118487,"created_at_utc_B":1570110111,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet, but I have asked myself this question before. I wanted to say thank you to the vet and his staff for taking such great care of a really angry cat. He had 3 surgeries. I went with a sheet cake that was all fancy and written on it was \"sorry about hellcat\" because it was a running joke. They all seemed to really like it.","human_ref_B":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8376.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a8s6t","c_root_id_B":"f2b321a","created_at_utc_A":1570110111,"created_at_utc_B":1570121138,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","human_ref_B":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11027.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a8s6t","c_root_id_B":"f2a1kb8","created_at_utc_A":1570110111,"created_at_utc_B":1570107279,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Edible bouquet- 60% of the time, it works every time.","human_ref_B":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2832.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aid0p","c_root_id_B":"f2aw2tk","created_at_utc_A":1570113702,"created_at_utc_B":1570118487,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet, but I have asked myself this question before. I wanted to say thank you to the vet and his staff for taking such great care of a really angry cat. He had 3 surgeries. I went with a sheet cake that was all fancy and written on it was \"sorry about hellcat\" because it was a running joke. They all seemed to really like it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4785.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a1kb8","c_root_id_B":"f2aw2tk","created_at_utc_A":1570107279,"created_at_utc_B":1570118487,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a vet, but I have asked myself this question before. I wanted to say thank you to the vet and his staff for taking such great care of a really angry cat. He had 3 surgeries. I went with a sheet cake that was all fancy and written on it was \"sorry about hellcat\" because it was a running joke. They all seemed to really like it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11208.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2aid0p","c_root_id_B":"f2b321a","created_at_utc_A":1570113702,"created_at_utc_B":1570121138,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","human_ref_B":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7436.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b321a","c_root_id_B":"f2a1kb8","created_at_utc_A":1570121138,"created_at_utc_B":1570107279,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","human_ref_B":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13859.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b321a","c_root_id_B":"f2aw61k","created_at_utc_A":1570121138,"created_at_utc_B":1570118524,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","human_ref_B":"I say food also but something like a basket on goodies that can be use divided up and doesn't take up a lot of room in the fridge or needs storage. Even just a plant to the office that isn't toxic to animals would be cool too. Or just give them a glowing review online in multiple websites.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2614.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2axpf2","c_root_id_B":"f2b321a","created_at_utc_A":1570119133,"created_at_utc_B":1570121138,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I agree on bringing some goodies and a thank you card. It goes a long way, is personal and will be very much appreciated. I\u2019m glad your dog is doing better.","human_ref_B":"Nobody has ever been unhappy to receive cupcakes on a Friday afternoon","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2005.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2a1kb8","c_root_id_B":"f2aid0p","created_at_utc_A":1570107279,"created_at_utc_B":1570113702,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you've already gotten some great suggestions. A really nice card or handwritten note attached to a basket of goodies is always nice. Spread the word on what great care you received from this office and encourage your neighbors to use them as their vet when you meet them and get a chance to talk. If they have a website where you can leave reviews do that as well. I'm glad your pup is on the mend and congratulations on your pregnancy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6423.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2bevik","c_root_id_B":"f2a1kb8","created_at_utc_A":1570125519,"created_at_utc_B":1570107279,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Name your baby after him. Lol or introduce your new born when you can and make him your honorary vet. Yelp review the heck out of him and praise praise praise.","human_ref_B":"Tell him what you told us, thank him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18240.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2bevik","c_root_id_B":"f2aw61k","created_at_utc_A":1570125519,"created_at_utc_B":1570118524,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Name your baby after him. Lol or introduce your new born when you can and make him your honorary vet. Yelp review the heck out of him and praise praise praise.","human_ref_B":"I say food also but something like a basket on goodies that can be use divided up and doesn't take up a lot of room in the fridge or needs storage. Even just a plant to the office that isn't toxic to animals would be cool too. Or just give them a glowing review online in multiple websites.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6995.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2b4jdk","c_root_id_B":"f2bevik","created_at_utc_A":1570121691,"created_at_utc_B":1570125519,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I vote for a card, in person delivery with saying thank you in person and reviews online about their service on every platform imaginable. Google, Facebook, yelp, insta, whatever they have. Maybe some food, but nowadays so many ppl have food sensitivities, (me included) that I prefer words and reviews way more. \ud83e\udd13","human_ref_B":"Name your baby after him. Lol or introduce your new born when you can and make him your honorary vet. Yelp review the heck out of him and praise praise praise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3828.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2axpf2","c_root_id_B":"f2b4jdk","created_at_utc_A":1570119133,"created_at_utc_B":1570121691,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I agree on bringing some goodies and a thank you card. It goes a long way, is personal and will be very much appreciated. I\u2019m glad your dog is doing better.","human_ref_B":"I vote for a card, in person delivery with saying thank you in person and reviews online about their service on every platform imaginable. Google, Facebook, yelp, insta, whatever they have. Maybe some food, but nowadays so many ppl have food sensitivities, (me included) that I prefer words and reviews way more. \ud83e\udd13","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2558.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"dcp5yd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"How to say thanks to my vet For background: My 8 year old pupper recently broke his leg. He did this by running around the new place where there were boxes on the floor and he tried to run around them, slipped on the tiles and collapsed onto his front paw. As you can imagine I was distraught and went to the nearest vet closest to the house where we had just moved. We had never met this man before and he just took one look at my pup and immediately went about fixing him up. A couple days later I took him back for surgery and now my pup is home recovering. Words cannot describe how thankful I am. Not only for the service but for the compassion and caring this vet has shown my pup and my family. (I should probably mention I am heavily pregnant and so needless to say, We have a few things going on at the moment!). The vet commented on how he was happy that he was seeing me far less stressed than what I was when I came in with my dog and how happy he was with the recovery my dog has shown coming out of surgery. The vet was mindful of our personal situation (new baby on the way and all!!) and did everything he could to ensure my fur baby was looked after. We have 12 more weeks of weekly visits until we get the all clear from the vet to say the leg is healed. I know there is a long road ahead but it\u2019s made so much easier knowing I have such a great vet looking over my fur baby.  I really want to do something special for this extra special vet to say thanks. I just don\u2019t know where to start... so of course I turn to reddit...  What would be an appropriate thank you gift for a vet who has just gone above and beyond? A thank you card just doesn\u2019t seem enough.   TLDR: what do I get an amazing vet to say thanks for looking after my dog\u2019s broken leg?","c_root_id_A":"f2axpf2","c_root_id_B":"f2bevik","created_at_utc_A":1570119133,"created_at_utc_B":1570125519,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I agree on bringing some goodies and a thank you card. It goes a long way, is personal and will be very much appreciated. I\u2019m glad your dog is doing better.","human_ref_B":"Name your baby after him. Lol or introduce your new born when you can and make him your honorary vet. Yelp review the heck out of him and praise praise praise.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6386.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"d3qzaf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Our 3 (?) year old rescue dog has some major behavioral issues, and we are at a loss. This is going to be somewhat of a long read, but please help. We don\u2019t know what to do.   My husband and I adopted our dog, Bear, from a local shelter about 4 months ago. The shelter told us he\u2019s a lab mixed with possible jack russel. He basically looks like a miniature black lab (he\u2019s 40 pounds). They guessed is age is around 3, but no one really knows for sure. He was rescued from Puerto Rico where he was homeless and running the streets eating out of trash cans. Our friend that is from Puerto Rico, and has family there, told us that there is a homeless dog epidemic there. They\u2019re everywhere. Along with that, the citizens aren\u2019t very nice to them as they throw trash and other objects at them and basically abuse them all together.   So, our dog has some major behavioral issues. We believe he has some extreme anxiety and possible PTSD (he was down there when they got hit with those terrible hurricanes years ago, on top of not knowing what all he experienced in those 3 years of being down there). He used to be terrified of the outdoors all together, but he got over that as he\u2019s okay in big open yards now.  But he is still traumatized by parking lots and any movement outside (cars, bikes, people walking towards him, etc.). He will cower and refuse to move, try to back out of his harness and attempt to bolt under cars or back into our apartment building whenever we are walking him. When he does walk he drags us and wheezes the entire time and is frantically looking for an escape route. Taking him outside is the hardest and most frustrating thing to do. There\u2019s been many times where he refuses to go potty outside after we\u2019ve tried for over an hour. We\u2019ll bring him inside to give him a break and try again later, and he\u2019ll run off somewhere and do his business inside our apartment. He doesn\u2019t always do this, but it\u2019s been around 5 times since we\u2019ve had him.   Bear loves people and is one of the sweetest and even tempered dogs I\u2019ve ever met. He just chills every day all day, doesn\u2019t really play, rarely barks, loves attention. Everyone that meets him wants to keep him lol. But he has aggressive tendencies with other dogs. I have found this issue out by bringing him to work with me. I work at a dog boarding and daycare facility. I\u2019ve brought him a few times to see if socializing him outside would help him with his anxiety of the outdoors along with trying to get him to play, but it\u2019s just brought out another issue. His problem mostly seems to be dogs that are his size or bigger, but if smaller dogs push it too far he will go after them too. If they sniff for too long or in the wrong area, and sometimes just a quick one, he will show his teeth and growl.  If a dog tries to play with him or jump on him, same thing, but then he\u2019ll snap at them. Sometimes them just standing near him not doing anything will set him off. He\u2019s very on edge the entire time and you have to monitor him closely with other dogs.   Something happened today that was kinda my breaking point. I brought him to work and put him in the yard with the little dogs. I went outside to check on them later and they all surrounded me and were jumping up on me. One of the dogs (about the same size as mine) jumped on him and my dog snapped at him. He grabbed him by his neck with his teeth and tried flinging him side to side. This caused a few other dogs to start fighting because of the stress and the environment. I was mortified.   Luckily no one got hurt and I immediately separated them. I\u2019ve decided to not bring him anymore until we can get his issues figured out. I can\u2019t be having my own dog causing issues and hurting others at my job. Along with that, whenever I am not outside with my dog at work all he does is whines and cries. I don\u2019t think this is the right environment for him, but I also feel like he needs to socialize with other dogs and lose his aggressive tendencies.   We just don\u2019t know what to do anymore. We\u2019ve told our vet and all he did was put him on some anxiety medication and sent us on our way. He didn\u2019t seem to really listen to us. He\u2019s been on the medication for 3 months and there\u2019s been no change. We\u2019ve tried training him but he doesn\u2019t listen at all. Nothing motivates him- he won\u2019t eat or drink outside of his food bowl at home. This includes treats, so that method doesn\u2019t work during training. We try to praise him and pet him when he listens, but that doesn\u2019t even seem to work because he doesn\u2019t learn.   When I get animals I am in it for the long haul. I work through any issues that they have and overcome them. But he is so hard and exhausting. Taking him outside is a nightmare, trying to socialize him is scary, trying to get him to play is a dead end, trying to get him to eat and drink outside of our apartment is impossible. My husband is even more frustrated and brought up the line \u201cmaybe he\u2019ll be better elsewhere because he doesn\u2019t seem happy here..\u201d  It would break my heart to get rid of him because he really is such a good and sweet dog that we\u2019ve both bonded with, along with our cat (they\u2019re best friends lol). He just has some issues that need worked through. We don\u2019t know what else to do. This is why I\u2019m reaching out- to see if any of you can lend a helping hand. It would mean the world to us.   Thank you for reading and offering your help.","c_root_id_A":"f05k8ct","c_root_id_B":"f05kdcv","created_at_utc_A":1568411882,"created_at_utc_B":1568411984,"score_A":10,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"This issue is nearly impossible to correct. It would require more time and effort than any human can give. He'd need constant training for years. It's similar to a human who has gone through a very serious experience since birth. For a human, it's very very hard and requires years of therapy and medication, and a human can be reasoned with. A dog doesn't even understand that he has an issue or that you are trying to help him. Also, there's epigenetics to consider since he's from Purto Rico.   I recommend giving up on trying to make him normal and work on living with his disorder. He can live a happy life without being \"normal\", but you'll need to make accommodations.  Also, if you give him up, he'll most likely be euthanized.","human_ref_B":">He\u2019s very on edge the entire time and you have to monitor him closely with other dogs.   >Something happened today that was kinda my breaking point. I brought him to work and put him in the yard with the little dogs. I went outside to check on them later  This may be where they got the idea you knew there was a problem but still left your dog alone with the small dogs. Because I also thought from your post that you were aware there was an issue but left your dog alone with other clients dogs for a short period which is not monitoring him closely in my opinion. So I think just the way you wrote it leads to this thought.  I know you were trying to give us as much info as possible so we can help you.  Glad you are planning to go the behaviourist route. Best of luck with your dog.  Edit for clarification.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":102.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"d3qzaf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Our 3 (?) year old rescue dog has some major behavioral issues, and we are at a loss. This is going to be somewhat of a long read, but please help. We don\u2019t know what to do.   My husband and I adopted our dog, Bear, from a local shelter about 4 months ago. The shelter told us he\u2019s a lab mixed with possible jack russel. He basically looks like a miniature black lab (he\u2019s 40 pounds). They guessed is age is around 3, but no one really knows for sure. He was rescued from Puerto Rico where he was homeless and running the streets eating out of trash cans. Our friend that is from Puerto Rico, and has family there, told us that there is a homeless dog epidemic there. They\u2019re everywhere. Along with that, the citizens aren\u2019t very nice to them as they throw trash and other objects at them and basically abuse them all together.   So, our dog has some major behavioral issues. We believe he has some extreme anxiety and possible PTSD (he was down there when they got hit with those terrible hurricanes years ago, on top of not knowing what all he experienced in those 3 years of being down there). He used to be terrified of the outdoors all together, but he got over that as he\u2019s okay in big open yards now.  But he is still traumatized by parking lots and any movement outside (cars, bikes, people walking towards him, etc.). He will cower and refuse to move, try to back out of his harness and attempt to bolt under cars or back into our apartment building whenever we are walking him. When he does walk he drags us and wheezes the entire time and is frantically looking for an escape route. Taking him outside is the hardest and most frustrating thing to do. There\u2019s been many times where he refuses to go potty outside after we\u2019ve tried for over an hour. We\u2019ll bring him inside to give him a break and try again later, and he\u2019ll run off somewhere and do his business inside our apartment. He doesn\u2019t always do this, but it\u2019s been around 5 times since we\u2019ve had him.   Bear loves people and is one of the sweetest and even tempered dogs I\u2019ve ever met. He just chills every day all day, doesn\u2019t really play, rarely barks, loves attention. Everyone that meets him wants to keep him lol. But he has aggressive tendencies with other dogs. I have found this issue out by bringing him to work with me. I work at a dog boarding and daycare facility. I\u2019ve brought him a few times to see if socializing him outside would help him with his anxiety of the outdoors along with trying to get him to play, but it\u2019s just brought out another issue. His problem mostly seems to be dogs that are his size or bigger, but if smaller dogs push it too far he will go after them too. If they sniff for too long or in the wrong area, and sometimes just a quick one, he will show his teeth and growl.  If a dog tries to play with him or jump on him, same thing, but then he\u2019ll snap at them. Sometimes them just standing near him not doing anything will set him off. He\u2019s very on edge the entire time and you have to monitor him closely with other dogs.   Something happened today that was kinda my breaking point. I brought him to work and put him in the yard with the little dogs. I went outside to check on them later and they all surrounded me and were jumping up on me. One of the dogs (about the same size as mine) jumped on him and my dog snapped at him. He grabbed him by his neck with his teeth and tried flinging him side to side. This caused a few other dogs to start fighting because of the stress and the environment. I was mortified.   Luckily no one got hurt and I immediately separated them. I\u2019ve decided to not bring him anymore until we can get his issues figured out. I can\u2019t be having my own dog causing issues and hurting others at my job. Along with that, whenever I am not outside with my dog at work all he does is whines and cries. I don\u2019t think this is the right environment for him, but I also feel like he needs to socialize with other dogs and lose his aggressive tendencies.   We just don\u2019t know what to do anymore. We\u2019ve told our vet and all he did was put him on some anxiety medication and sent us on our way. He didn\u2019t seem to really listen to us. He\u2019s been on the medication for 3 months and there\u2019s been no change. We\u2019ve tried training him but he doesn\u2019t listen at all. Nothing motivates him- he won\u2019t eat or drink outside of his food bowl at home. This includes treats, so that method doesn\u2019t work during training. We try to praise him and pet him when he listens, but that doesn\u2019t even seem to work because he doesn\u2019t learn.   When I get animals I am in it for the long haul. I work through any issues that they have and overcome them. But he is so hard and exhausting. Taking him outside is a nightmare, trying to socialize him is scary, trying to get him to play is a dead end, trying to get him to eat and drink outside of our apartment is impossible. My husband is even more frustrated and brought up the line \u201cmaybe he\u2019ll be better elsewhere because he doesn\u2019t seem happy here..\u201d  It would break my heart to get rid of him because he really is such a good and sweet dog that we\u2019ve both bonded with, along with our cat (they\u2019re best friends lol). He just has some issues that need worked through. We don\u2019t know what else to do. This is why I\u2019m reaching out- to see if any of you can lend a helping hand. It would mean the world to us.   Thank you for reading and offering your help.","c_root_id_A":"f05k8ct","c_root_id_B":"f05qcus","created_at_utc_A":1568411882,"created_at_utc_B":1568416635,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"This issue is nearly impossible to correct. It would require more time and effort than any human can give. He'd need constant training for years. It's similar to a human who has gone through a very serious experience since birth. For a human, it's very very hard and requires years of therapy and medication, and a human can be reasoned with. A dog doesn't even understand that he has an issue or that you are trying to help him. Also, there's epigenetics to consider since he's from Purto Rico.   I recommend giving up on trying to make him normal and work on living with his disorder. He can live a happy life without being \"normal\", but you'll need to make accommodations.  Also, if you give him up, he'll most likely be euthanized.","human_ref_B":"Honestly...it seems like most of what you're doing is setting him up to fail. You don't have to take him on long walks! He doesn't like them, enjoy some backyard time until he settles in more and you can work on training! You should take potty training\/leash socializing from the beginning, as if he was a puppy, not just jumping right into it. If you know he doesn't love other dogs, a play group is a HORRIBLE way to socialize. Not every dog wants to play with a bunch of random strangers, and yours definitely doesn't.   Hes only been home four months.  That's barely enough adjustment period for even a healthy sound dog. These behavioral problems seem very minor and easy to manage, to me, compared to some street dogs I've worked with and met.   Find yourself a reputable certified trainer ASAP, and stop taking him to work with you (or at least keep him kenneled alone when you do).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4753.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"asy9w6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Question about spaying a pregnant cat I rescued a kitten from the grocery store parking lot a few weeks ago. I thought she looked to be about 4-6 months old. I took her in 2 weeks ago to get shots and the vet told me her adult canines were in and she could be anywhere from 6-12 months of age. I brought her in for her spay appointment this past Monday the 18th and I told the vet tech that the kitten's belly was noticeably larger (we had been on vacation the previous week so it was obvious to me). Kitten's nipples were enlarged, she was extra cuddly, and begged for food every time I went into the kitchen. I asked the vet tech if the vet could palpitate kitten's belly to confirm pregnancy and the vet tech said exams are usually performed before surgery and then took the kitten to the back. I never heard from the vet office so I assumed no kittens.   When I picked up my cat yesterday morning, the vet told me, \"there were a few kittens in there but they weren't too developed.\" I kind of sat there in shock and told him, \"Since I never got a phone call yesterday from you guys, I assumed she wasn't pregnant.\"   Should the vet have called me once he realized my cat was pregnant? Should I have been more explicit with the vet tech to call me before any surgery proceedings if kittens were found? I just feel awful about this and the fact that they weren't given a choice about the unborn kittens.","c_root_id_A":"egxlrua","c_root_id_B":"egxo1wo","created_at_utc_A":1550723858,"created_at_utc_B":1550726026,"score_A":49,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"This comes up every so often- asking a vet to keep an animal under anesthetic with its body cavity open while someone calls the owner to hear back on whether they want to change their mind about the procedure they requested is generally not do-able. If you\u2019re interested in raising kittens, there are many about to fill shelters who will be happy to ask for your help!","human_ref_B":"It sounds like a miscommunication - most vets are used to spaying pregnant cats, and it usually does not complicate things much. I am currently learning how to do these surgeries and many of my colleagues had pregnant animals for their very first spay surgeries.  It sounds like either the tech misunderstood you, did not pass the message to the vet, or the vet misunderstood the tech. Heck, I might be misunderstanding you now. I think you are saying that you would not have wanted the animal spayed if you knew it was pregnant, but on a second read you don't actually say that in your post. It would not have been a red flag to the vet to see a pregnant animal for the surgery, so they would have had no reason to suspect you did not want the procedure done unless they had been specifically told that this was the case.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2168.0,"score_ratio":1.3265306122}
{"post_id":"zj0v7x","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Small dog ate lemon Oreos and shivering My mixed terrier (approx 15lbs) got into some lemon Oreos, not sure how many. This morning was shivering and I thought he was cold til I found the crumbs now I'm worried but he's stopped shivering. He's not running around as much but is peeing and pooping normally. Should I be worried?","c_root_id_A":"izufgeu","c_root_id_B":"iztyneq","created_at_utc_A":1670798822,"created_at_utc_B":1670791883,"score_A":55,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"These are the ingredients for lemon oreos that I've found online: Wheat flour  Palm oil  Sugar  Soy milk\u00a0  Low-fat cocoa powder  Glucose-fructose syrup  Lemon extracts  Wheat starch\u00a0  Baking agent\u00a0  Palm kernel oil  Emulsifiers\u00a0  Salt\u00a0  Nothing stands out as too worrisome EXCEPT COCOA POWDER. You can access chocolate toxicity calculators online to see what kind of signs to expect for the amount eaten. Recommend phoning your vet for further advice.","human_ref_B":"If you're worried call poison control with the bag in your hand, they will know what is unsafe and what to do about it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6939.0,"score_ratio":1.0576923077}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy1ya11","c_root_id_B":"iy1rnt0","created_at_utc_A":1669604918,"created_at_utc_B":1669601683,"score_A":68,"score_B":49,"human_ref_A":"White chocolate is not real chocolate. It\u2019s sugar\/milk\/cocoa butter, but no cocoa. An active compound in cocoa is what makes dogs sick, and is why dark chocolate is the most harmful (highest level of cocoa) Tl\/dr white chocolate is not actually chocolate. Your dog might have the runs.","human_ref_B":"PetMD has a toxicity calculator - assuming 12lb dog and 2 ozs of white chocolate - no issues expected   https:\/\/www.petmd.com\/dog\/chocolate-toxicity#common-chocolate-sources","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3235.0,"score_ratio":1.387755102}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy1xmzg","c_root_id_B":"iy1ya11","created_at_utc_A":1669604597,"created_at_utc_B":1669604918,"score_A":7,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"If necessary you could always ask your vet for some probiotics to help settle his tummy but normally it\u2019s dark chocolate that\u2019s toxic :)","human_ref_B":"White chocolate is not real chocolate. It\u2019s sugar\/milk\/cocoa butter, but no cocoa. An active compound in cocoa is what makes dogs sick, and is why dark chocolate is the most harmful (highest level of cocoa) Tl\/dr white chocolate is not actually chocolate. Your dog might have the runs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":321.0,"score_ratio":9.7142857143}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy22h0x","c_root_id_B":"iy2g5zl","created_at_utc_A":1669607048,"created_at_utc_B":1669615019,"score_A":6,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"White chocolate has no actual cocoa in it it's cocoa butter, it's used in dog treats as frosting all the time so your pooch will be fine no worries","human_ref_B":"True \"white chocolate\" is cocoa butter, milk solids, and sugar. Fake white chocolate is usually just the latter two and vegetable oils.  Cocoa butter is basically pure triglyceride fat, and only has trace amounts of the toxic parts of chocolate (theobromine, caffeine). So the diarrhea is because your dog ate straight vegetable fats.  Your dog will be fine, in all likelihood. Keep an eye on him, mostly in case he has any more diarrhea you have to clean up, and rest easy.  And move the confections out of his reach \ud83d\ude42  Wikipedia article on cocoa butter for reference: https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cocoa_butter?wprov=sfla1","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7971.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy2g5zl","c_root_id_B":"iy1xmzg","created_at_utc_A":1669615019,"created_at_utc_B":1669604597,"score_A":15,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"True \"white chocolate\" is cocoa butter, milk solids, and sugar. Fake white chocolate is usually just the latter two and vegetable oils.  Cocoa butter is basically pure triglyceride fat, and only has trace amounts of the toxic parts of chocolate (theobromine, caffeine). So the diarrhea is because your dog ate straight vegetable fats.  Your dog will be fine, in all likelihood. Keep an eye on him, mostly in case he has any more diarrhea you have to clean up, and rest easy.  And move the confections out of his reach \ud83d\ude42  Wikipedia article on cocoa butter for reference: https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cocoa_butter?wprov=sfla1","human_ref_B":"If necessary you could always ask your vet for some probiotics to help settle his tummy but normally it\u2019s dark chocolate that\u2019s toxic :)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10422.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy36efs","c_root_id_B":"iy2vc2e","created_at_utc_A":1669636674,"created_at_utc_B":1669627369,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"White chocolate is not real chocolate they will be fine","human_ref_B":"Little tip for if something similar happens again: call your vet right away. They can determine if its toxic and if it is they can let him vomit, which prevents a lot of problems (and money)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9305.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"z6hrl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Dog ate white chocolate Hi, my dog is 12-13lbs, somewhere about 4.5-6.5 hours ago he ate about 1.76 oz of white chocolate. He\u2019s been fine until now he has diarrhea but that\u2019s the only symptom. He\u2019s drinking fine, eating fine, I checked his heart rate & its 92 bpm which I\u2019m pretty sure is normal. I\u2019ve been watching him for any other symptoms but will he be okay? He gets upset stomachs so easily.   No vomiting, either","c_root_id_A":"iy3a5mx","c_root_id_B":"iy3dgg7","created_at_utc_A":1669639231,"created_at_utc_B":1669641205,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"They\u2019ll be fine. It\u2019s dark, baking chocolate that may cause an issue. White chocolate is different.","human_ref_B":"What everyone here has said is pretty on point in regard to white chocolate.  But since your boy also has a history of stomach upset, you will want to watch out for pancreatitis.  White chocolate has a lot of fat and sugar, and dogs who get into it can have bouts of acute pancreatitis as a result.  Get him in over the next 48 hours if you see stomach pain, persistent diarrhea, lack of appetite, or vomiting.  Not all dogs will vomit with pancreatitis, so if you see any of the other signs without the vomiting, he will still need to go in.  Best of luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1974.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ysxsw9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"Dog ate grapes My dog is a 9 year old male Jack Russell Terrier around 17 lbs. Around an hour ago he ate two grapes. Before we knew about the toxicity of grapes we use to feed them to him as a snack and he was fine, he's probably had around 20-30 grapes in his lifetime. I understand that grapes are toxic to dogs, currently all vets near me are closed, what should I do? I","c_root_id_A":"iw1jnz0","c_root_id_B":"iw1kpdu","created_at_utc_A":1668231925,"created_at_utc_B":1668232660,"score_A":56,"score_B":101,"human_ref_A":"We see you have mentioned grapes and\/or raisins. If your dog has ingested or potentially ingested either, you should contact Animal Poison Control and start heading to the nearest open Vets office.  Grapes\/Raisins are poisonous to dogs and can cause kidney failure or death. The reaction is idiosyncratic meaning different dogs react differently. There is no known safe or poisonous amount and as few as 4-5 grapes have been implicated in the death of a dog.  At this point in time, we do not know the underlying cause for grape toxicity, but recent research has suggested that it may be related to tartaric acid. As tartaric acid can very significantly from grape to grape and between types of grapes, this may explain why reactions are idiosyncratic. Research is ongoing.  We advise that you do not rely on online toxicity calculators as those assume a non-idiosyncratic reaction and extrapolate assuming dog size x vs grape count y, and the data does not support that sort of relationship at this time.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"^ this bots comment is 1000% perfect.  Call an emergency vet asap.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":735.0,"score_ratio":1.8035714286}
{"post_id":"ddg4r9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Requesting opinions on putting both of my terminally ill dogs down at one time. One has a possible longer life expectancy than the other, but they share a strong emotional bond. Apologies for formatting. Posting on mobile.   Please no advice about our plan of treatment; we have chosen our treatment plan based on what we feel is best for our boys.   I would like to hear your opinions on end of life decisions for both dogs, please.   Species: dogs  Age: Murphy - 16, Wilby - 12  Breed: Murphy - lab\/pit bull mix, Wilby - pit bull  Size: Murphy - 49 lbs., Wilby - 58 lbs (has lost a bit over 10lbs since Aug. 31)  Diagnosis: Murphy - progressive liver disease (diagnosed mid August) and arthritis and diabetes insipidous, and age related deafness. Wilby - Lymphoma (diagnosed yesterday)  Medications: Murphy - desmopressin (3 times daily) and gabapentin (2 times daily) and denamarin (1\/day), Wilby - novox (2 times daily) for fever - will be starting steroid treatment soon.   At this point, both of my dogs have terminal illnesses. Wilby is in at least stage two Lymphoma, and Murphy has progressive liver disease.   Murphy was diagnosed first at the end of August. Though we have made changes to his medications and diet, his liver enzymes continue to climb, but not at an extreme rate. We were told we could expect to have a few good months with any pain well under control. Thus far, that has proven true. He still eats, drinks, snugs, loves to go for a car ride, sniffs and even rolls around happily in the backyard. All food intake and elimination is normal (urine controlled by desmopressin).  Wilby was diagnosed with Lymphoma yesterday. We have chosen not to pursue chemo since he is adverse to long car rides and very nervous at the vet\u2019s (probably due to luxated patella surgery on both knees when young). We have opted for steroid treatment instead which may offer us two to four months longer with him.  Now that his fever is under control, he is eating and drinking well, all elimination is normal, and he is running around, playing with and chewing on toys, and acting normal minus needing to take more frequent breaks.   I am requesting your opinions on if we should go ahead and put down both of my boys when the time comes for one of them.   They have been together for 12 years, are intensely bonded and are never far from one another. Wilby doesn\u2019t know what life is without Murphy, and I honestly think Murphy would be lost without Wilby.   We have the option of doing euthanasia at our home by our regular vet.   I would like your opinions on if I would be making the best decision for my boys should we choose to put them down at the same time. It will break both my husband and I, but I want to do what is best for our pups.   Thank you for your responses and opinions.","c_root_id_A":"f2k063r","c_root_id_B":"f2jnngj","created_at_utc_A":1570279851,"created_at_utc_B":1570275119,"score_A":16,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t have an opinion or any advice on what to do, I just came here to tell you I\u2019m so sorry about your dogs, that\u2019s rough. Good luck with everything.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry that you are facing this; I\u2019m sure your dogs are loved like sons and losing even one is heartbreaking. I don\u2019t, however, think you should euthanize both at the same time if the healthier dog has a chance of living happily and healthily for a while after. Yea, they are bonded, but as another user pointed out, dogs can get through that separation with time. I\u2019ve heard it really helps if they can smell and have some time around the deceased dog to understand that he\/she has passed, and not just disappeared forever. I don\u2019t know how open you are to this, but would you consider even adopting another companion for the surviving dog to sort of help you all through it? I know that\u2019s a really personal choice in terms of grieving, though. Anyways, I wish you luck with your decision, and I hope both your dogs live for many more happy, healthy years. At the end of the day, you know your dogs best.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4732.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhsz59","c_root_id_B":"inh76qi","created_at_utc_A":1662580463,"created_at_utc_B":1662572323,"score_A":39,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"What about kidney issues? I know you said full blood panel but was all the kidney function listed in this? If so, may ask for a second opinion?","human_ref_B":"Praying for your baby!!!! I hope a vet can respond and help you out. I definitely would get a full blood panel.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8140.0,"score_ratio":2.4375}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhl5nc","c_root_id_B":"inhsz59","created_at_utc_A":1662577608,"created_at_utc_B":1662580463,"score_A":18,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"Any issues like diabetes?","human_ref_B":"What about kidney issues? I know you said full blood panel but was all the kidney function listed in this? If so, may ask for a second opinion?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2855.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhsz59","c_root_id_B":"inh9q9s","created_at_utc_A":1662580463,"created_at_utc_B":1662573274,"score_A":39,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"What about kidney issues? I know you said full blood panel but was all the kidney function listed in this? If so, may ask for a second opinion?","human_ref_B":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7189.0,"score_ratio":5.5714285714}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhl5nc","c_root_id_B":"inh76qi","created_at_utc_A":1662577608,"created_at_utc_B":1662572323,"score_A":18,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Any issues like diabetes?","human_ref_B":"Praying for your baby!!!! I hope a vet can respond and help you out. I definitely would get a full blood panel.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5285.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhl5nc","c_root_id_B":"inh9q9s","created_at_utc_A":1662577608,"created_at_utc_B":1662573274,"score_A":18,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Any issues like diabetes?","human_ref_B":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4334.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"ini086m","c_root_id_B":"ini6gfu","created_at_utc_A":1662583092,"created_at_utc_B":1662585408,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Did the test also exclude Cushing's syndrome?","human_ref_B":"Phenobarbital can definitely cause increased thirst. Listed here under potential side effects.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2316.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhxc5q","c_root_id_B":"ini6gfu","created_at_utc_A":1662582044,"created_at_utc_B":1662585408,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Can her medication cause her to be excessively thirsty? I\u2019m not a vet but I\u2019ve been on meds that make me ridiculously thirsty, it\u2019s something I\u2019ve got going on now.","human_ref_B":"Phenobarbital can definitely cause increased thirst. Listed here under potential side effects.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3364.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"ini6gfu","c_root_id_B":"inh9q9s","created_at_utc_A":1662585408,"created_at_utc_B":1662573274,"score_A":14,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Phenobarbital can definitely cause increased thirst. Listed here under potential side effects.","human_ref_B":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12134.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inifjsi","c_root_id_B":"ini086m","created_at_utc_A":1662588991,"created_at_utc_B":1662583092,"score_A":13,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"You should get all the diagnostic test results and post them here for us to review. When searching for a cause of increased water intake \/ urine production, a pretty thorough workup can be needed when the first round of testing doesn't reveal the cause. Some of the tests that may be needed include blodowork (complete blood count, chemistry profile), urinalysis, urine culture, chest xrays, abdominal ultrasound, any number of specialized blood tests depending on your location and the rest of the clinical picture (potentially screening for infectious diseases, endocrine\/hormonal diseases, thyroid function, liver function), sometimes specialized urine tests, and sometimes even brain imaging such as CT scan. You can also request referral to an internal medicine specialist as they'll be the best person to oversee all of this and make sure you're going in the right direction.","human_ref_B":"Did the test also exclude Cushing's syndrome?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5899.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inifjsi","c_root_id_B":"inhxc5q","created_at_utc_A":1662588991,"created_at_utc_B":1662582044,"score_A":13,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"You should get all the diagnostic test results and post them here for us to review. When searching for a cause of increased water intake \/ urine production, a pretty thorough workup can be needed when the first round of testing doesn't reveal the cause. Some of the tests that may be needed include blodowork (complete blood count, chemistry profile), urinalysis, urine culture, chest xrays, abdominal ultrasound, any number of specialized blood tests depending on your location and the rest of the clinical picture (potentially screening for infectious diseases, endocrine\/hormonal diseases, thyroid function, liver function), sometimes specialized urine tests, and sometimes even brain imaging such as CT scan. You can also request referral to an internal medicine specialist as they'll be the best person to oversee all of this and make sure you're going in the right direction.","human_ref_B":"Can her medication cause her to be excessively thirsty? I\u2019m not a vet but I\u2019ve been on meds that make me ridiculously thirsty, it\u2019s something I\u2019ve got going on now.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6947.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inifjsi","c_root_id_B":"inh9q9s","created_at_utc_A":1662588991,"created_at_utc_B":1662573274,"score_A":13,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"You should get all the diagnostic test results and post them here for us to review. When searching for a cause of increased water intake \/ urine production, a pretty thorough workup can be needed when the first round of testing doesn't reveal the cause. Some of the tests that may be needed include blodowork (complete blood count, chemistry profile), urinalysis, urine culture, chest xrays, abdominal ultrasound, any number of specialized blood tests depending on your location and the rest of the clinical picture (potentially screening for infectious diseases, endocrine\/hormonal diseases, thyroid function, liver function), sometimes specialized urine tests, and sometimes even brain imaging such as CT scan. You can also request referral to an internal medicine specialist as they'll be the best person to oversee all of this and make sure you're going in the right direction.","human_ref_B":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15717.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"ini086m","c_root_id_B":"inhxc5q","created_at_utc_A":1662583092,"created_at_utc_B":1662582044,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Did the test also exclude Cushing's syndrome?","human_ref_B":"Can her medication cause her to be excessively thirsty? I\u2019m not a vet but I\u2019ve been on meds that make me ridiculously thirsty, it\u2019s something I\u2019ve got going on now.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1048.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inh9q9s","c_root_id_B":"ini086m","created_at_utc_A":1662573274,"created_at_utc_B":1662583092,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","human_ref_B":"Did the test also exclude Cushing's syndrome?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9818.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"x8b341","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Dog obsessively drinking water. My 7 year old border collie\/heeler mix has been obsessively drinking water for about a year. She was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and is taking phenobarbital. She has tested negative for bladder issues and had testing done for Addison's disease which was negative. She weighs about 32 lbs and drinks 50-60 oz of water per day and would drink more if she could.   I am struggling to make sure my other dog gets enough water each day and can't leave constantly filled water bowls out as she will drink all of the water seemingly endlessly. She attempts to drink out of every puddle, birdbath, or any water she sees no matter how much water she's had or how long it's been since she last had water.   At this point I have no idea what is causing this aside from I guess the phenobarbital and if that's the case are there other anti epileptic medications that wouldn't cause excessive thirst?","c_root_id_A":"inhxc5q","c_root_id_B":"inh9q9s","created_at_utc_A":1662582044,"created_at_utc_B":1662573274,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Can her medication cause her to be excessively thirsty? I\u2019m not a vet but I\u2019ve been on meds that make me ridiculously thirsty, it\u2019s something I\u2019ve got going on now.","human_ref_B":"Pro tip - kiddie pool. They\u2019re super cheap and you can fill it from a hose. Maybe have the vet check for diabetes?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8770.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ad8uec","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Our vet is stumped by this lesion on our pup's nose. Our dog developed a lesion on his nose a few months ago (pic here). We assumed it was a scratch or cut and that it would go away on its own. Since it did not go away, we asked our vet about it at his regular checkup. She recommended dermalone but wasn't sure what it is. Dermalone hasn't helped much and now we are planning to do a biopsy as well as fungal and ringworm checks. I just wanted to see if anybody had other opinions or thoughts on what it may be.","c_root_id_A":"edfb3hf","c_root_id_B":"edfh73z","created_at_utc_A":1546815332,"created_at_utc_B":1546819154,"score_A":4,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"How old is this dog?","human_ref_B":"Good call on the biopsy. Are they doing a complete excision and then sending the whole thing out to pathology or just a punch biopsy?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3822.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"inhjxvt","c_root_id_B":"inhi5z2","created_at_utc_A":1662577151,"created_at_utc_B":1662576477,"score_A":74,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Alternatively, ask for the medical records to be sent directly to you then forward them to the insurance company. Most vets I have worked for prefer to give you your records and then have you deal with the insurance company.","human_ref_B":"I would call and ask to discuss it with the practice manager. There are multiple things that could be backing up this process (request being sent through email but it's going to the spam folder, request isn't making it from the person taking the call\/email to the doctor, the doctor is drastically behind on their notes, the doctor is on vacation, they thought they submitted the records but it was sent to the wrong email\/fax number etc.). Cut out the middle-man of the insurance company and create a direct line of communication to find out why things aren't progressing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":674.0,"score_ratio":3.7}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"init1vk","c_root_id_B":"inhi5z2","created_at_utc_A":1662594797,"created_at_utc_B":1662576477,"score_A":36,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"As a vet, I see this frequently and often they\u2019re getting sent to spam or the insurance company is dropping the ball and simply saying they\u2019re sending the records. I\u2019m not sure why you\u2019re blaming your vet on this, it literally makes zero sense why they would delay this. We like it when people use insurance. So I\u2019m guessing it\u2019s a chewy.com phenomenon where they\u2019re dropping the ball on communication and automatically blame the vet to avoid responsibility for poor customer service, or there\u2019s a problem with the vet actually seeing the request.","human_ref_B":"I would call and ask to discuss it with the practice manager. There are multiple things that could be backing up this process (request being sent through email but it's going to the spam folder, request isn't making it from the person taking the call\/email to the doctor, the doctor is drastically behind on their notes, the doctor is on vacation, they thought they submitted the records but it was sent to the wrong email\/fax number etc.). Cut out the middle-man of the insurance company and create a direct line of communication to find out why things aren't progressing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18320.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"iniphec","c_root_id_B":"init1vk","created_at_utc_A":1662593203,"created_at_utc_B":1662594797,"score_A":7,"score_B":36,"human_ref_A":"Just have them print the records and then pick them up and mail them , it will go a lot quicker","human_ref_B":"As a vet, I see this frequently and often they\u2019re getting sent to spam or the insurance company is dropping the ball and simply saying they\u2019re sending the records. I\u2019m not sure why you\u2019re blaming your vet on this, it literally makes zero sense why they would delay this. We like it when people use insurance. So I\u2019m guessing it\u2019s a chewy.com phenomenon where they\u2019re dropping the ball on communication and automatically blame the vet to avoid responsibility for poor customer service, or there\u2019s a problem with the vet actually seeing the request.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1594.0,"score_ratio":5.1428571429}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injtgsl","c_root_id_B":"injptgt","created_at_utc_A":1662612349,"created_at_utc_B":1662610189,"score_A":13,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"This reminds me of when Chewy used to call my job at 2\/3am when the dr they requested approval from obviously was not in and I would request them to call when he was in\u2026 only for them to call again the following night at 2\/3am and then the owner calls upset lol","human_ref_B":"Pet insurance seems to be notorious for kind of a run around. Sometimes we just don't have a lot of information (not a lot of exams, normal exams, etc) and they keep asking for more but we don't have more. And I've seen cases take months to get resolved and it had nothing to do with the vet clinics end.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2160.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injjy0r","c_root_id_B":"injtgsl","created_at_utc_A":1662607060,"created_at_utc_B":1662612349,"score_A":9,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Just go into the office and ask for a hard copy then and there.","human_ref_B":"This reminds me of when Chewy used to call my job at 2\/3am when the dr they requested approval from obviously was not in and I would request them to call when he was in\u2026 only for them to call again the following night at 2\/3am and then the owner calls upset lol","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5289.0,"score_ratio":1.4444444444}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injtgsl","c_root_id_B":"iniphec","created_at_utc_A":1662612349,"created_at_utc_B":1662593203,"score_A":13,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"This reminds me of when Chewy used to call my job at 2\/3am when the dr they requested approval from obviously was not in and I would request them to call when he was in\u2026 only for them to call again the following night at 2\/3am and then the owner calls upset lol","human_ref_B":"Just have them print the records and then pick them up and mail them , it will go a lot quicker","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19146.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injtgsl","c_root_id_B":"injiibi","created_at_utc_A":1662612349,"created_at_utc_B":1662606332,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This reminds me of when Chewy used to call my job at 2\/3am when the dr they requested approval from obviously was not in and I would request them to call when he was in\u2026 only for them to call again the following night at 2\/3am and then the owner calls upset lol","human_ref_B":"Is this a young puppy? I find pet insurance companies contact me multiple times when there isn\u2019t much to the medical record.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6017.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"iniphec","c_root_id_B":"injptgt","created_at_utc_A":1662593203,"created_at_utc_B":1662610189,"score_A":7,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Just have them print the records and then pick them up and mail them , it will go a lot quicker","human_ref_B":"Pet insurance seems to be notorious for kind of a run around. Sometimes we just don't have a lot of information (not a lot of exams, normal exams, etc) and they keep asking for more but we don't have more. And I've seen cases take months to get resolved and it had nothing to do with the vet clinics end.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16986.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injiibi","c_root_id_B":"injptgt","created_at_utc_A":1662606332,"created_at_utc_B":1662610189,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Is this a young puppy? I find pet insurance companies contact me multiple times when there isn\u2019t much to the medical record.","human_ref_B":"Pet insurance seems to be notorious for kind of a run around. Sometimes we just don't have a lot of information (not a lot of exams, normal exams, etc) and they keep asking for more but we don't have more. And I've seen cases take months to get resolved and it had nothing to do with the vet clinics end.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3857.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injjy0r","c_root_id_B":"iniphec","created_at_utc_A":1662607060,"created_at_utc_B":1662593203,"score_A":9,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Just go into the office and ask for a hard copy then and there.","human_ref_B":"Just have them print the records and then pick them up and mail them , it will go a lot quicker","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13857.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injjy0r","c_root_id_B":"injiibi","created_at_utc_A":1662607060,"created_at_utc_B":1662606332,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Just go into the office and ask for a hard copy then and there.","human_ref_B":"Is this a young puppy? I find pet insurance companies contact me multiple times when there isn\u2019t much to the medical record.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":728.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"ink8zk1","c_root_id_B":"injtvnb","created_at_utc_A":1662623460,"created_at_utc_B":1662612598,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Unpopular opinion, but 3 weeks doesn\u2019t seem like a length of time to think the vet \u201cwon\u2019t send\u201d.  Maybe they are super busy and backed up?  Just another view.","human_ref_B":"Vet here. Good chance the insurance company has not sent anything to your vet. I was out of town and tried to order a medication for my own dog. They denied my request saying the vet never approved it. When I called they said they faxed it and got no response\u2026they don\u2019t have a fax number for me bc I don\u2019t have one\u2026point is just ask them for the form they want your vet to fill out and give it to your vet to fill out and return it yourself.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10862.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injiibi","c_root_id_B":"ink8zk1","created_at_utc_A":1662606332,"created_at_utc_B":1662623460,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Is this a young puppy? I find pet insurance companies contact me multiple times when there isn\u2019t much to the medical record.","human_ref_B":"Unpopular opinion, but 3 weeks doesn\u2019t seem like a length of time to think the vet \u201cwon\u2019t send\u201d.  Maybe they are super busy and backed up?  Just another view.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17128.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"x8ctzl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Vet won't send records to my insurer [vent] My pet insurance company has been trying to get records from my vet for 3 weeks, without a reply of any kind.     Is there any law to protect pet owners from this passive-aggressive behavior, or a specific reason why a vet would \\*not\\* want their patients to use insurance?       It seems to me that responsible pet ownership entails a commitment to care for these animals if and when serious illnesses arise, and insurance makes this possible.  Am I missing something here?","c_root_id_A":"injiibi","c_root_id_B":"injtvnb","created_at_utc_A":1662606332,"created_at_utc_B":1662612598,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is this a young puppy? I find pet insurance companies contact me multiple times when there isn\u2019t much to the medical record.","human_ref_B":"Vet here. Good chance the insurance company has not sent anything to your vet. I was out of town and tried to order a medication for my own dog. They denied my request saying the vet never approved it. When I called they said they faxed it and got no response\u2026they don\u2019t have a fax number for me bc I don\u2019t have one\u2026point is just ask them for the form they want your vet to fill out and give it to your vet to fill out and return it yourself.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6266.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"4qod9d","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"My 4 year old Shiba Inu dog FREAKS OUT when getting his vaccination shots He's neutered, perfectly healthy, and very calm. But when he gets vaccinated, all hell breaks loose. He screams at the top of his lungs and is so strong that he needs several people to hold him down. It's really stressful for everyone. I just want to know what I can do to really calm him down beforehand? I take him on long walks but it's not enough for him.","c_root_id_A":"d4us4f2","c_root_id_B":"d4unctp","created_at_utc_A":1467336126,"created_at_utc_B":1467328296,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Ask your vet for a sedative to give him before coming to the clinic. Acepromazine is a good sedative but doesn't provide any anti anxiety. Trazodone is another option that does provide anti anxiety. These or other meds may be good options for the next vet visit. Ask your vet if one may be helpful. They should determine the best med for him, and if he can safely take these or other medications.","human_ref_B":"Does he get brought to the back alone or do they give the vaccines in an exam room with you present?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7830.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"kvgnpv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Senior cat suddenly going outside of litter box. At wits end For context, my cat is 8 years old and we adopted her almost 2 years ago. We learned after we got her home that the previous family returned her for going outside the litter box too much.  Our house has 2 cats with separate preferred feeding areas and litter boxes on difference floors. My cat has taken to urinating everyday on the floor about 2 feet from her preferred litter box. I've cleaned the area thoroughly with specific urine cleaning spray and put a shower curtain liner down. She still chooses to go in that same spot. Sometimes she'll go in the litter box but not consistently.  We've taken a urine sample to the vet for testing. The results came back that nothing's wrong with her and she's just anxious. We live quiet lives in a mostly quiet neighborhood. The only spontaneous part of her day is finding out which flavor of canned food both cats are getting that day. She mostly sleeps and loves being a lapcat.  I'm at my wit's end. The vet gave us no advice of what to do besides take her back to the humane society if it gets too bad which is not an option. We've even talked about euthanasia but don't think we're at that point.  Does anyone have any advice or tips on what we could do?","c_root_id_A":"gizr898","c_root_id_B":"gizz4f9","created_at_utc_A":1610453853,"created_at_utc_B":1610459478,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"A second opinion from a different vet is needed here.   Cats inappropriately urinate for all kinds of health reasons, and the health reasons could have nothing to do with the urine or urinary tract itself.  Cats will go outside the litter box as a sign that something is wrong and they are not feeling well.  Blood work is most likely the next necessary step.  ETA: I\u2019m not a vet, but I have cats and like to do my research so I can look out for signs that they could be sick.","human_ref_B":"This has derailed spectacularly so it's getting locked. Please follow up with another vet regarding further diagnostics.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5625.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"8ifjpc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Would a vet allow me to take the meds to put a dog down home with me? I hated how we had to take my last dog to the vet to put him down. He was in an unfamiliar place and the last things he saw were cold metal and florescent lights. I want it to be at home next time where he can sit out in the yard or on my bed.   I just don't know know if it's possible for a vet to send someone home with euthanasia meds. Also what is actually used and how does it work in the body?","c_root_id_A":"dyrao96","c_root_id_B":"dyrbehl","created_at_utc_A":1525964746,"created_at_utc_B":1525965410,"score_A":29,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"The vet will set a catheter line in the leg. They will then administer two injections, the first sedates and the second stops breathing. It is a very peaceful process. Some vets will come to your home to provide this service (some will even if not already a regular client). This service will need to be provided by a trained technician, this isn't something you want to figure out on the fly. Good luck man, I know it can seem like hard times but you have to do what is right.","human_ref_B":"No they absolutely will not and are not allowed to by law. I highly recommend the at-home vet service. It was something like $400 where I am and I don't regret a penny.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":664.0,"score_ratio":2.0344827586}
{"post_id":"8ifjpc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Would a vet allow me to take the meds to put a dog down home with me? I hated how we had to take my last dog to the vet to put him down. He was in an unfamiliar place and the last things he saw were cold metal and florescent lights. I want it to be at home next time where he can sit out in the yard or on my bed.   I just don't know know if it's possible for a vet to send someone home with euthanasia meds. Also what is actually used and how does it work in the body?","c_root_id_A":"dyratop","c_root_id_B":"dyrbehl","created_at_utc_A":1525964883,"created_at_utc_B":1525965410,"score_A":16,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"I worked in a vet clinic and they would not let that happen; they cannot guarantee you will use it for putting that specific pet down.  They also only used injections to do it, so it wouldn\u2019t really be possible. If you call your local vet, they may have references to at home euthanasia services. It would be more expensive, but a much better experience for your dog if they felt more comfortable at home.","human_ref_B":"No they absolutely will not and are not allowed to by law. I highly recommend the at-home vet service. It was something like $400 where I am and I don't regret a penny.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":527.0,"score_ratio":3.6875}
{"post_id":"w1hq1p","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Young cat was seen at vet after a dryer incident. Recovery going well with the exception of the tail.   - **Species:** CAT - **Age:**  10 months - **Sex\/Neuter status:** Neutered  - **Breed:**. Domestic, Buff - **Body weight:** Appropriate  - **History:** Good health - **Clinical signs:**  Tail flopping, no tail movement, pain when trying to sit or get comfortable, reacts defensive to touch at base of tail, off balance. - **Duration:** 2 days since incident  - **Your general location:** Oreogn - **Vet reports.** Given fluids and medicine (IV) No X-rays needed, at home treat with antibiotics and pain medicine.   I am also messaging the vet who saw our cat but wanted to get as much peace of mind I could now while that happens.   Our cat jumped into the dryer early morning and was in there for about 7 minutes while it was on. (This is incredibly hard to talk about oh wow).  He was rescued and was bleeding from a tongue bite and had burnt paws.  I immediately drive him to the emergency vet.  They brought his temp down and kept him all day.  The outcome looked promising, vet indicated we could bring him home at the end of the day.    He is recovering well with the exception of his tail.  There is no movement from him controlling it, he is off balance, pain when in movement to sit or lay and reacts defensively when we try to touch even gently the base.  If we do try to lift it some it flops right down.  He is literally dragging it :(  This all hurt ls my heart too much, from a kitten this guy helped me through mental illness and I am just starting to recover.  I want to help him now.    I'll am curious what r\/askvet thinks.  Thanks you soo much for any thoughts or comments.","c_root_id_A":"igleo0h","c_root_id_B":"igl9kdw","created_at_utc_A":1658111038,"created_at_utc_B":1658108505,"score_A":25,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Literally had this situation happen with mine. Tail eventually began moving again she just has a little bent part near the base. Good luck!!","human_ref_B":"What medication is he on?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2533.0,"score_ratio":1.9230769231}
{"post_id":"w1hq1p","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Young cat was seen at vet after a dryer incident. Recovery going well with the exception of the tail.   - **Species:** CAT - **Age:**  10 months - **Sex\/Neuter status:** Neutered  - **Breed:**. Domestic, Buff - **Body weight:** Appropriate  - **History:** Good health - **Clinical signs:**  Tail flopping, no tail movement, pain when trying to sit or get comfortable, reacts defensive to touch at base of tail, off balance. - **Duration:** 2 days since incident  - **Your general location:** Oreogn - **Vet reports.** Given fluids and medicine (IV) No X-rays needed, at home treat with antibiotics and pain medicine.   I am also messaging the vet who saw our cat but wanted to get as much peace of mind I could now while that happens.   Our cat jumped into the dryer early morning and was in there for about 7 minutes while it was on. (This is incredibly hard to talk about oh wow).  He was rescued and was bleeding from a tongue bite and had burnt paws.  I immediately drive him to the emergency vet.  They brought his temp down and kept him all day.  The outcome looked promising, vet indicated we could bring him home at the end of the day.    He is recovering well with the exception of his tail.  There is no movement from him controlling it, he is off balance, pain when in movement to sit or lay and reacts defensively when we try to touch even gently the base.  If we do try to lift it some it flops right down.  He is literally dragging it :(  This all hurt ls my heart too much, from a kitten this guy helped me through mental illness and I am just starting to recover.  I want to help him now.    I'll am curious what r\/askvet thinks.  Thanks you soo much for any thoughts or comments.","c_root_id_A":"ignejbe","c_root_id_B":"ignfmuk","created_at_utc_A":1658156465,"created_at_utc_B":1658156912,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I hope your cat feels better!","human_ref_B":"If you didn\u2019t have X-rays at the initial visit it would be advised to contact your vet and request them to be done now.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":447.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"iko7gqo","c_root_id_B":"ikplv7o","created_at_utc_A":1660752307,"created_at_utc_B":1660771181,"score_A":56,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.","human_ref_B":"Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18874.0,"score_ratio":2.0535714286}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikowkd8","c_root_id_B":"ikplv7o","created_at_utc_A":1660761725,"created_at_utc_B":1660771181,"score_A":24,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.","human_ref_B":"Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9456.0,"score_ratio":4.7916666667}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikplv7o","c_root_id_B":"ikoje0g","created_at_utc_A":1660771181,"created_at_utc_B":1660756803,"score_A":115,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.","human_ref_B":"Let the vet do it, yeah.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14378.0,"score_ratio":8.8461538462}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikp2coh","c_root_id_B":"ikplv7o","created_at_utc_A":1660763906,"created_at_utc_B":1660771181,"score_A":10,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately","human_ref_B":"Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7275.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"iknyzsr","c_root_id_B":"ikplv7o","created_at_utc_A":1660749052,"created_at_utc_B":1660771181,"score_A":8,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?","human_ref_B":"Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22129.0,"score_ratio":14.375}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"iknyzsr","c_root_id_B":"iko7gqo","created_at_utc_A":1660749052,"created_at_utc_B":1660752307,"score_A":8,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?","human_ref_B":"If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3255.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikoje0g","c_root_id_B":"ikowkd8","created_at_utc_A":1660756803,"created_at_utc_B":1660761725,"score_A":13,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Let the vet do it, yeah.","human_ref_B":"This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4922.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"iknyzsr","c_root_id_B":"ikowkd8","created_at_utc_A":1660749052,"created_at_utc_B":1660761725,"score_A":8,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?","human_ref_B":"This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12673.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikoje0g","c_root_id_B":"iknyzsr","created_at_utc_A":1660756803,"created_at_utc_B":1660749052,"score_A":13,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Let the vet do it, yeah.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7751.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikp2coh","c_root_id_B":"iknyzsr","created_at_utc_A":1660763906,"created_at_utc_B":1660749052,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14854.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq0hq9","c_root_id_B":"ikqa1wb","created_at_utc_A":1660777023,"created_at_utc_B":1660781162,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Surgery has a chance of saving the cat. Skipping surgery does not.","human_ref_B":"If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4139.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq25wi","c_root_id_B":"ikqa1wb","created_at_utc_A":1660777742,"created_at_utc_B":1660781162,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.","human_ref_B":"If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3420.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq43uz","c_root_id_B":"ikqa1wb","created_at_utc_A":1660778582,"created_at_utc_B":1660781162,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.","human_ref_B":"If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2580.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikqdcp8","c_root_id_B":"ikq25wi","created_at_utc_A":1660782612,"created_at_utc_B":1660777742,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.","human_ref_B":"There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4870.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq43uz","c_root_id_B":"ikqdcp8","created_at_utc_A":1660778582,"created_at_utc_B":1660782612,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.","human_ref_B":"If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4030.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq25wi","c_root_id_B":"ikqkpfp","created_at_utc_A":1660777742,"created_at_utc_B":1660785845,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.","human_ref_B":"Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8103.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wqpwq3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d","c_root_id_A":"ikq43uz","c_root_id_B":"ikqkpfp","created_at_utc_A":1660778582,"created_at_utc_B":1660785845,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.","human_ref_B":"Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7263.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"gvlp07","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"URGENT - found a very weak, skinny kitten, barely walking around and might be around 4 weeks old maybe less. Can\u2019t get food due to protests, what do I do?","c_root_id_A":"fspsuer","c_root_id_B":"fspg7ku","created_at_utc_A":1591161004,"created_at_utc_B":1591152900,"score_A":23,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"At 4 weeks, kittens are generally too young to be weaned. Formula is essential. If you are unable to get any at the stores, consider calling your local shelters for help - most still provide emergency services, even if regular programs and adoption services have been paused.  In the interim, diluted cow's milk or yogurt will work. Remember to feed small amounts every few hours.  https:\/\/www.sdhumane.org\/services\/lost-and-found\/found-a-kitten\/  In addition to food, pay attention to regulating the kitten's body temperature, and stimulating it to urinate and pass feces. You'll find details on both those things in the link above.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8104.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"gvlp07","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"URGENT - found a very weak, skinny kitten, barely walking around and might be around 4 weeks old maybe less. Can\u2019t get food due to protests, what do I do?","c_root_id_A":"fspg7ku","c_root_id_B":"fspz6po","created_at_utc_A":1591152900,"created_at_utc_B":1591165855,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Please read my post on this topic in the FAQ (see the sidebar).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12955.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"q32dwx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat with diabetes and kidney failure Just got results back from my vet that my 12 year old male cat has both diabetes and signs of stage 2 kidney failure and I'm not too sure what to do.  The vet said that the diabetes would require a $500 overnight stay to get started, and after multiple visits and tests and probably another $300, we can get started on insulin. While pricey I wouldn't be too against this but the added issue of kidney failure, my family thinks it's for the best to put him to sleep.  I did reading online and saw that diabetic cats are fairly easy to deal with and there's a decent chance of remission, but I have no idea what the added kidney issues entail and I'm lost. I thought euthanasia was the only option but googling it now I'm wondering if it's the right choice and I just need some advice.","c_root_id_A":"hfp5e9n","c_root_id_B":"hfp53e5","created_at_utc_A":1633585766,"created_at_utc_B":1633585531,"score_A":11,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Stage 2 kidney disease is very manageable! Please don\u2019t give up on your guy yet  No experience with diabetes, but my old man was diagnosed with kidney disease at 13. He lived to be 19.","human_ref_B":"There are options to manage kidney disease in cats. Did your vet discuss those options with you?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":235.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"vb9whm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"took dog to the vets for the first time and they said they will not see her again unless she has been given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone beforehand I took my jack russel to the vet to get her booster vaccinations a couple of days ago and i warned them beforehand that she was extremely aggressive and anxious at the vet clinic (this was a new vet clinic as we moved away) they had the history form her previous vet and she had notes saying that she was lovely until someone tried to handle her. they kept almost *ignoring* me when i told them that she would be aggressive as if they didn\u2019t believe me. when we showed up she was wagging her tail and asking for pats from everyone, so they said she didn\u2019t need to be muzzled (when i called them up to book her in i told them she needed one) i kept pushing for them to put one on but they didn\u2019t. fast forward to them trying to WEIGH her, she spun around and tried to bite them. 3 muzzles later (she bit through 1 of them and clawed the other two off) we finally got her needle in. it took 45 minutes to try and vaccinate her.   basically they said she would need to be given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone before she sets foot back into the clinic again. my girl is actually wonderfully behaved with anyone and any animal, but turns into the devil when at the vet. she is just absolutely terrified there.   can someone please explain to be what these drugs will do to help her, why she needs to have both instead of just one anxiety drug (as i thought that they both do the same thing) and what i could do to help my dog calm down? i\u2019ve literally never seen her aggressive ANYWHERE except for when she is at the vet. i literally don\u2019t even recognise her when she is there.","c_root_id_A":"ic74ho2","c_root_id_B":"ic7axug","created_at_utc_A":1655124288,"created_at_utc_B":1655127632,"score_A":8,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Human! *know thy animal* and it's clear that you do...","human_ref_B":"Look for a fear free certified vet https:\/\/fearfreepets.com\/resources\/directory\/  They'll be able to work with your pup to get her the medical care she needs and hopefully keep her anxiety from getting worse.   Part of her treatment plan may very well include pre-visit medication. I love trazodone, it's like a doggie xanex. It just helps mellow them out and helps us get a little more done in a visit. I'm a little more wary of using dexmed outside of a clinic setting because it has some cardiovascular effects. But, it might be a good addition if trazodone isn't enough. I would just encourage you to make sure her heart is healthy enough to handle it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3344.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"vb9whm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"took dog to the vets for the first time and they said they will not see her again unless she has been given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone beforehand I took my jack russel to the vet to get her booster vaccinations a couple of days ago and i warned them beforehand that she was extremely aggressive and anxious at the vet clinic (this was a new vet clinic as we moved away) they had the history form her previous vet and she had notes saying that she was lovely until someone tried to handle her. they kept almost *ignoring* me when i told them that she would be aggressive as if they didn\u2019t believe me. when we showed up she was wagging her tail and asking for pats from everyone, so they said she didn\u2019t need to be muzzled (when i called them up to book her in i told them she needed one) i kept pushing for them to put one on but they didn\u2019t. fast forward to them trying to WEIGH her, she spun around and tried to bite them. 3 muzzles later (she bit through 1 of them and clawed the other two off) we finally got her needle in. it took 45 minutes to try and vaccinate her.   basically they said she would need to be given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone before she sets foot back into the clinic again. my girl is actually wonderfully behaved with anyone and any animal, but turns into the devil when at the vet. she is just absolutely terrified there.   can someone please explain to be what these drugs will do to help her, why she needs to have both instead of just one anxiety drug (as i thought that they both do the same thing) and what i could do to help my dog calm down? i\u2019ve literally never seen her aggressive ANYWHERE except for when she is at the vet. i literally don\u2019t even recognise her when she is there.","c_root_id_A":"ic74ho2","c_root_id_B":"ic7b1n8","created_at_utc_A":1655124288,"created_at_utc_B":1655127684,"score_A":8,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"Human! *know thy animal* and it's clear that you do...","human_ref_B":"Below are some links to pages with pretty good information that outlines some of the more common pre-visit oral sedation protocols, along with explanations about what each drug does. I admit these protocols were not in common use when I was in vet school, and we've started using them more in the past 5 years or so and I've been quite surprised at how effective they can be. Of course, some patients laugh at us silly humans and our so-called drugs. But for sure there are some dogs with prior histories of being fractious and requiring intramuscular sedative injection just to perform a physical exam become pretty well handleable with oral pre-visit sedation.   At our hospital we don't routinely use oral dexmedetomidine as it can have profound cardiovascular effects. Most commonly I think we use gabapentin and trazadone or the Chill Protocol (which is outlined in a couple of the pages I link).   https:\/\/www.mynavas.org\/post\/oral-sedatives-and-anxiolytics-for-veterinary-visits  https:\/\/www.atdove.org\/sites\/atdove.org\/files\/publicFiles\/Lecture%20Notes%20-%20Just%20Take%20a%20Chill%20Pill.pdf  https:\/\/www.mspca.org\/angell\\_services\/pre-hospital-sedation-options-for-aggressive-and-anxious-dogs\/","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3396.0,"score_ratio":3.125}
{"post_id":"vb9whm","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"took dog to the vets for the first time and they said they will not see her again unless she has been given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone beforehand I took my jack russel to the vet to get her booster vaccinations a couple of days ago and i warned them beforehand that she was extremely aggressive and anxious at the vet clinic (this was a new vet clinic as we moved away) they had the history form her previous vet and she had notes saying that she was lovely until someone tried to handle her. they kept almost *ignoring* me when i told them that she would be aggressive as if they didn\u2019t believe me. when we showed up she was wagging her tail and asking for pats from everyone, so they said she didn\u2019t need to be muzzled (when i called them up to book her in i told them she needed one) i kept pushing for them to put one on but they didn\u2019t. fast forward to them trying to WEIGH her, she spun around and tried to bite them. 3 muzzles later (she bit through 1 of them and clawed the other two off) we finally got her needle in. it took 45 minutes to try and vaccinate her.   basically they said she would need to be given Dexmedetomidine and trazodone before she sets foot back into the clinic again. my girl is actually wonderfully behaved with anyone and any animal, but turns into the devil when at the vet. she is just absolutely terrified there.   can someone please explain to be what these drugs will do to help her, why she needs to have both instead of just one anxiety drug (as i thought that they both do the same thing) and what i could do to help my dog calm down? i\u2019ve literally never seen her aggressive ANYWHERE except for when she is at the vet. i literally don\u2019t even recognise her when she is there.","c_root_id_A":"ic9q8ok","c_root_id_B":"ic74ho2","created_at_utc_A":1655166099,"created_at_utc_B":1655124288,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"One thing I would mention is that vets don't just recommend the meds to help them handle your dog. They recommend them because they help your dog relax and not be further traumatized.","human_ref_B":"Human! *know thy animal* and it's clear that you do...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":41811.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"edu2qy","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My vet talks down to me, and is really hard to work with, but my cat definitely needs to lose some weight. Please help me, since my vet will not. Hi, so I\u2019d like to preface with saying I literally made this account and joined Reddit earlier today, just so I could care for my cat and fish better.   My cat just turned 7 and has been eating diet food for a solid 4\/5 years. He has had limited success with losing weight, and has been slowly gaining it for the past 2 or so years. He\u2019s physically large. I am 5\u20198 and he is longer than my femur and my arm, not including his tail. He\u2019s tall and has pretty broad shoulders for a cat. He\u2019s healthy around 14-15 lbs. He weighs about 18 now. He has also been neutered if that\u2019s relevant. Every time I go into the vet for annual checkup and shots the vet just says \u201cfeed him less\u201d, without even bothering to ask how much I\u2019m feeding him. If I try to explain how much I\u2019m feeding my cat, he cuts me off and repeats his favorite saying. The food my vet recommended was the Hills Science Diet Light, which he has eaten since he was first told to lose weight. Last time we went in I asked about trying a different food and the vet explicitly said it wouldn\u2019t make a difference and to feed him less. I feed my cat as if I\u2019m trying to shoot for 14 lbs and I still don\u2019t give him the full 3\/4 cup of food per day. He\u2019s getting a little more than half a cup. He gets 1\/4 cup every morning and evening. And no extra, though he does ask. When he does get canned food (about once a week, in place of dry food) it\u2019s always portioned out to work for weight loss, and I try to pick the ones that also specifically target weight loss. The canned food is also from the Science Diet line. He also gets 2 cat treats each day. I\u2019d like to keep doing these things for my cat, and see him lose weight if possible. He deserves some nice things in life and I want to give them to him. But I also want many more long happy years with one of my best friends in the entire world. What else can I do to help my guy slim down? I have serious concerns about further restricting his food (I\u2019m worried he\u2019s not getting enough food as is) but I\u2019m open to trying just about anything. A huge thanks in advance for the expertise, as I really know nothing about proper cat nutrition.","c_root_id_A":"fbm3xgq","c_root_id_B":"fbm0l5w","created_at_utc_A":1576977742,"created_at_utc_B":1576975131,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Unfortunately, feeding less is a correct answer to the question. However, it is often much easier said than done, and there will be considerations for each patient as to the best way to do it. The correct amount of food for an animal is the amount that keeps them at the right weight. While we can give average values, individuals will vary from that.","human_ref_B":"Canned diets are often recommended for weight loss as they improve satiation. You can ask your vet if an all canned diet would be appropriate.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2611.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"mvexyc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Urgent help required - Pregnant cat not eating , not moving much, not talking, please help Species - cat  age - 2 years  sex - female  neuterstatus - not neutered  body weight - 4kgs approx  history - perfectly well in the past, she had a successful delivery last year  general location - delhi, india  &#x200B;  My cat has been pregnant for about two months and i think its about time for her to go into labor and give birth. but for the last 1 and a half days she hasnt been eating anything and moving much. She doesnt play or meow for the entire day and just lies down. She looks very tired as she is just lying with her eyes open sometimes. She only drinks water a few times in the day and consumes nothing else. There is lockdown in my area as the covid condition here is very bad so i cant go to any vets at the moment. Can anybody please tell me what can i do to help her in this condition. I dont want any harm to come to her so please can somebody tell me what can i do to ease her in this condition","c_root_id_A":"gvcj2lb","c_root_id_B":"gvcjxwb","created_at_utc_A":1619026850,"created_at_utc_B":1619027213,"score_A":18,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Veterinarians are open even with the lock down. Take your cat to the vet","human_ref_B":"This is a medical emergency. Nothing can be done at home, your pet need veterinary assistance as soon as possible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":363.0,"score_ratio":2.0555555556}
{"post_id":"uig7ah","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do cats\/dogs have dominant paws like humans have dominate hands? As title. Always wanted to know","c_root_id_A":"i7cz4pw","c_root_id_B":"i7d02ia","created_at_utc_A":1651707885,"created_at_utc_B":1651708308,"score_A":27,"score_B":66,"human_ref_A":"Yes. I wish I had an article to show you. Horses have dominant sides as well. As anyone who has a horse that has a hard time picking up one lead. Lol.","human_ref_B":"Yes! If you want to see which side dominant your pet is, present them a toy and see which paw they use first to swipe\/ reach for it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":423.0,"score_ratio":2.4444444444}
{"post_id":"uig7ah","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do cats\/dogs have dominant paws like humans have dominate hands? As title. Always wanted to know","c_root_id_A":"i7d02ia","c_root_id_B":"i7cogzc","created_at_utc_A":1651708308,"created_at_utc_B":1651703143,"score_A":66,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Yes! If you want to see which side dominant your pet is, present them a toy and see which paw they use first to swipe\/ reach for it.","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t know the answer, but I remember as a kid in the 70s-80s there was a book that gave you tests to do on your cat to determine which was their dominant paw.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5165.0,"score_ratio":7.3333333333}
{"post_id":"uig7ah","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do cats\/dogs have dominant paws like humans have dominate hands? As title. Always wanted to know","c_root_id_A":"i7cogzc","c_root_id_B":"i7cz4pw","created_at_utc_A":1651703143,"created_at_utc_B":1651707885,"score_A":9,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t know the answer, but I remember as a kid in the 70s-80s there was a book that gave you tests to do on your cat to determine which was their dominant paw.","human_ref_B":"Yes. I wish I had an article to show you. Horses have dominant sides as well. As anyone who has a horse that has a hard time picking up one lead. Lol.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4742.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"uig7ah","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do cats\/dogs have dominant paws like humans have dominate hands? As title. Always wanted to know","c_root_id_A":"i7dqqol","c_root_id_B":"i7cogzc","created_at_utc_A":1651720489,"created_at_utc_B":1651703143,"score_A":20,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Lol this was my fifth grade science project topic. And I independently verified the existing research that, yes, they do.  Edit: this was pre-internet, so I didn\u2019t actually have access to that research until many years later - I was genuinely curious, just as OP was, about the answer! So I love this question!","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t know the answer, but I remember as a kid in the 70s-80s there was a book that gave you tests to do on your cat to determine which was their dominant paw.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17346.0,"score_ratio":2.2222222222}
{"post_id":"6a62qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How to make a positive stand against animal abuse as a veterinary surgeon? I've been lucky in that I haven't experienced many abuse cases in my career so far. I work in the UK and recently I euthanased an obviously dumped dog. He was skeletal, malnourished and clearly didn't have the strength to get to the location that he was found. His spinal arthritis rendered his hindlimbs useless, and the muscle wastage suggested that it was a long term issue. He also had bilateral severe ear infection and his teeth were held in by pus. Out of naivety, I sent his body for cremation so that no case could be pursued, despite him being Microchipped so there was a shot at finding his owner.  I want to know what I could be doing better.  Who should I be voting for? What petitions should I be signing? Which charities should I be giving my time to to make the biggest impact again animal cruelty? Who do I have to vote for in order to get more than a 12 weeks suspended sentence for leaving a dog to die wrapped up in a piece of carpet?  I know that I'm already helping by being a vet, but I don't think that signing the odd online petition and giving a few quid to the RSPCA is enough.  I'd really appreciate some advice, and I'm aware that this might be skirting the rules a little given that I'm not asking about a specific patient.","c_root_id_A":"dhd7jix","c_root_id_B":"dhcwkm2","created_at_utc_A":1494403157,"created_at_utc_B":1494382925,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"In NL we have a (post graduation) veterinary course on how to spot animal abuse, document it properly, take court proof photos, law and thus make the case as successful as possible. I guess there should be something similar in the UK? It recieves a lot of attention, because of the high correlation between animal abuse and child abuse (too lazy to find source, but there are some studies done).","human_ref_B":"Humane Society International might be a good place to start  hsi.org","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20232.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"a7vypw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My 14 year old female cat (light brown, black and white) has had one of her eyes go darker and darker as she has gotten older. Her other eye is normal. Does anyone know why it\u2019s going darker? Is she going blind in one eye due to age?","c_root_id_A":"ec6jejc","c_root_id_B":"ec6gyj2","created_at_utc_A":1545314966,"created_at_utc_B":1545312458,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Changes in iris coloration can either be a normal aging change or it can be a disastrous condition. Sometimes an ophthalmologist is needed, but certainly start with a regular veterinarian visit.","human_ref_B":"You need to get that eye checked out. Call today to set something up-vet tech","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2508.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"zb9vge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"ESH Question: dog nipped vet, vet way over reacted Sorry its long: I am looking for advice\/opinions for (personally\/mentally) processing a recent incident at my vet office, a vet I\u2019ve had for decades. I\u2019m on a throwaway as my main has my county listed and it\u2019d be a dead giveaway who I\u2019m talking about.   We\u2019ve been with this vet since 2004. 2 cats, 3 (2 Sheppards and 1 beagle) dogs have passed their life time seeing him. We currently have 1 more cat, a 14yo chihuahua and a 3yo Chihuahua.   The players: Our doc has always been a forceful\/no BS kind of guy? But he is darn knowledgeable and generally been kind. He is older (late 50\u2019s\/early 60\u2019s) and his son will soon take over the practice.   The dog: 3yo chihuahua is our second rescue, can be a nervous peer and territorial over food with the other dog. He lives in a house with kids and we\u2019ve hardly ever had issues with him being aggressive at home, even when the kids are in his space.  He came from a rescue down in Mexico.   My Mom: Early 50\u2019s, dogs main caretaker - alpha of the whole pack, really good at training the dogs, in tune with them.   The incident, second hand from my mom to me: she came in the for the appt, she was a little apprehensive because they put her in the same room we just put our older beagle down in last week. (Same vet, we brought in both Chihuahuas to say goodbye and understand the beagle passed away so they wouldn\u2019t pine for the missing pack member.) mom got the feeling the Chihuahuas were nervous, or they were feeding off of her- she isn\u2019t sure who got nervous first. Doc came in fast all business, last appt of the day. Milo, 3yo, had his back to doc and was looking at my mom when doc bent down quickly to pick him up. Milo startled, reached back and nipped at doc, no blood.   The next part happened fast\u2026 doc yanked Milo up by the scruff and tried to put him on his back\u2026. Milo fought hard, like full battle mode and drew blood on doc. Doc grabbed him by the scruff again and shook him violently and threw him into a metal kennel in another room. He did the exam on the 14yo leaf chihuahua who was terrified and my mom was in shock.   When doc brought Milo back out he was muzzled and doc was aggressive in giving shots. He then yelled at my mother for poorly training this dog and told her he was never allowed to come back to the vet again.   Later that night, Milo came to look into my room and I talked with him, held my hand out and said hi like I do most nights with this dog. As soon as I reached around from the front to pick him up he peed everywhere. It\u2019s been a few days and he\u2019s developed bruises along his chest. He is skiddish in the house where he used to be comfortable, I\u2019m having to rebuild our relationship which was founded on playing fetch.   This is not the same dog.   I\u2019m asking a group of vets if my family is in the wrong because we brought a nervous dog to the vet and didn\u2019t properly prepare him? Was docs response on parr? I feel angry and can\u2019t seem to process what happened to my family pet. While simultaneously feeling 100% responsible because vets don\u2019t go to work to get bit.   Thanks for making it to the end :-)","c_root_id_A":"iyrn5m7","c_root_id_B":"iyr8p0b","created_at_utc_A":1670087109,"created_at_utc_B":1670081183,"score_A":123,"score_B":93,"human_ref_A":"The vet should be reported for abusing your dog.","human_ref_B":"Not an appropriate response from the vet. Very old school to try to flip the dog and a bad choice. The fact that the dog has bruises indicates the handling was too rough. And a vet should understand that a scared animal might nip occasionally - I never blame the animal or the owner in those situations (unless they're clearly aware of a pre-existing problem and not putting in any effort to fix it).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5926.0,"score_ratio":1.3225806452}
{"post_id":"zb9vge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"ESH Question: dog nipped vet, vet way over reacted Sorry its long: I am looking for advice\/opinions for (personally\/mentally) processing a recent incident at my vet office, a vet I\u2019ve had for decades. I\u2019m on a throwaway as my main has my county listed and it\u2019d be a dead giveaway who I\u2019m talking about.   We\u2019ve been with this vet since 2004. 2 cats, 3 (2 Sheppards and 1 beagle) dogs have passed their life time seeing him. We currently have 1 more cat, a 14yo chihuahua and a 3yo Chihuahua.   The players: Our doc has always been a forceful\/no BS kind of guy? But he is darn knowledgeable and generally been kind. He is older (late 50\u2019s\/early 60\u2019s) and his son will soon take over the practice.   The dog: 3yo chihuahua is our second rescue, can be a nervous peer and territorial over food with the other dog. He lives in a house with kids and we\u2019ve hardly ever had issues with him being aggressive at home, even when the kids are in his space.  He came from a rescue down in Mexico.   My Mom: Early 50\u2019s, dogs main caretaker - alpha of the whole pack, really good at training the dogs, in tune with them.   The incident, second hand from my mom to me: she came in the for the appt, she was a little apprehensive because they put her in the same room we just put our older beagle down in last week. (Same vet, we brought in both Chihuahuas to say goodbye and understand the beagle passed away so they wouldn\u2019t pine for the missing pack member.) mom got the feeling the Chihuahuas were nervous, or they were feeding off of her- she isn\u2019t sure who got nervous first. Doc came in fast all business, last appt of the day. Milo, 3yo, had his back to doc and was looking at my mom when doc bent down quickly to pick him up. Milo startled, reached back and nipped at doc, no blood.   The next part happened fast\u2026 doc yanked Milo up by the scruff and tried to put him on his back\u2026. Milo fought hard, like full battle mode and drew blood on doc. Doc grabbed him by the scruff again and shook him violently and threw him into a metal kennel in another room. He did the exam on the 14yo leaf chihuahua who was terrified and my mom was in shock.   When doc brought Milo back out he was muzzled and doc was aggressive in giving shots. He then yelled at my mother for poorly training this dog and told her he was never allowed to come back to the vet again.   Later that night, Milo came to look into my room and I talked with him, held my hand out and said hi like I do most nights with this dog. As soon as I reached around from the front to pick him up he peed everywhere. It\u2019s been a few days and he\u2019s developed bruises along his chest. He is skiddish in the house where he used to be comfortable, I\u2019m having to rebuild our relationship which was founded on playing fetch.   This is not the same dog.   I\u2019m asking a group of vets if my family is in the wrong because we brought a nervous dog to the vet and didn\u2019t properly prepare him? Was docs response on parr? I feel angry and can\u2019t seem to process what happened to my family pet. While simultaneously feeling 100% responsible because vets don\u2019t go to work to get bit.   Thanks for making it to the end :-)","c_root_id_A":"iysmrua","c_root_id_B":"iysbfbs","created_at_utc_A":1670101859,"created_at_utc_B":1670097210,"score_A":72,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"Find a new vet.","human_ref_B":"Definitely find a new vet. Everyone working in vetmed is bound to be bit at some point. Cruelty towards the patient is never acceptable.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4649.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"zb9vge","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"ESH Question: dog nipped vet, vet way over reacted Sorry its long: I am looking for advice\/opinions for (personally\/mentally) processing a recent incident at my vet office, a vet I\u2019ve had for decades. I\u2019m on a throwaway as my main has my county listed and it\u2019d be a dead giveaway who I\u2019m talking about.   We\u2019ve been with this vet since 2004. 2 cats, 3 (2 Sheppards and 1 beagle) dogs have passed their life time seeing him. We currently have 1 more cat, a 14yo chihuahua and a 3yo Chihuahua.   The players: Our doc has always been a forceful\/no BS kind of guy? But he is darn knowledgeable and generally been kind. He is older (late 50\u2019s\/early 60\u2019s) and his son will soon take over the practice.   The dog: 3yo chihuahua is our second rescue, can be a nervous peer and territorial over food with the other dog. He lives in a house with kids and we\u2019ve hardly ever had issues with him being aggressive at home, even when the kids are in his space.  He came from a rescue down in Mexico.   My Mom: Early 50\u2019s, dogs main caretaker - alpha of the whole pack, really good at training the dogs, in tune with them.   The incident, second hand from my mom to me: she came in the for the appt, she was a little apprehensive because they put her in the same room we just put our older beagle down in last week. (Same vet, we brought in both Chihuahuas to say goodbye and understand the beagle passed away so they wouldn\u2019t pine for the missing pack member.) mom got the feeling the Chihuahuas were nervous, or they were feeding off of her- she isn\u2019t sure who got nervous first. Doc came in fast all business, last appt of the day. Milo, 3yo, had his back to doc and was looking at my mom when doc bent down quickly to pick him up. Milo startled, reached back and nipped at doc, no blood.   The next part happened fast\u2026 doc yanked Milo up by the scruff and tried to put him on his back\u2026. Milo fought hard, like full battle mode and drew blood on doc. Doc grabbed him by the scruff again and shook him violently and threw him into a metal kennel in another room. He did the exam on the 14yo leaf chihuahua who was terrified and my mom was in shock.   When doc brought Milo back out he was muzzled and doc was aggressive in giving shots. He then yelled at my mother for poorly training this dog and told her he was never allowed to come back to the vet again.   Later that night, Milo came to look into my room and I talked with him, held my hand out and said hi like I do most nights with this dog. As soon as I reached around from the front to pick him up he peed everywhere. It\u2019s been a few days and he\u2019s developed bruises along his chest. He is skiddish in the house where he used to be comfortable, I\u2019m having to rebuild our relationship which was founded on playing fetch.   This is not the same dog.   I\u2019m asking a group of vets if my family is in the wrong because we brought a nervous dog to the vet and didn\u2019t properly prepare him? Was docs response on parr? I feel angry and can\u2019t seem to process what happened to my family pet. While simultaneously feeling 100% responsible because vets don\u2019t go to work to get bit.   Thanks for making it to the end :-)","c_root_id_A":"iysmcz0","c_root_id_B":"iysmrua","created_at_utc_A":1670101692,"created_at_utc_B":1670101859,"score_A":27,"score_B":72,"human_ref_A":"Um\u2026 no absolutely not. Listen, I work at a large veterinary hospital and we never, ever, treat an animal that way. That is a fire-able offense. No warning, no talks. You are fired. People get bit in the veterinary field. It\u2019s unavoidable, as a matter of fact I was bitten last week. Dog got my hand and my leg. I never raised my voice and I couldn\u2019t imagine man handling the dog or any animal ever.   Yes, some dogs are hard to work with. But your boy doesn\u2019t sound like this. The vet scared him. The nip should have been an indication that he was moving too fast for that pet and needed to back off for a minute. I would 100% find a new vet. Can you imagine how he treats other animals that get taken to the treatment area for surgeries or whatever else they need? No. No. No. He needs to be reported, that\u2019s unacceptable.","human_ref_B":"Find a new vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":167.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"sj9evb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it worth it to feed my senior dog senior pet food formula? The title sums up my question. What is so special about senior pet food formula? Is it worthwhile to get it? Or can I get by with just regular pet food and some supplements?","c_root_id_A":"hveuud1","c_root_id_B":"hvff6j4","created_at_utc_A":1643891763,"created_at_utc_B":1643901188,"score_A":4,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Given that I am not a vet, I would still say yes.  You wouldn't feed a baby a hamburger, or a kitten adult cat food. You'd give them what they're supposed to have for where they are in their life.  Do your own research, talk with your vet about it and go from there.  But I'm saying yes because the food is normally designed for the animals specific needs for their age from what I know.  Hope that helps slightly and I'm sure someone can give a more informed answer from a vet perspective.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but I work in the pet shop industry... I would say yes, feed him senior food.  Senior food can have extra additives such as glucosamine and condroitin to help with joint issues and arthritis. If you get a good quality food, from your pet shop or vet, rather than supermarket shit, you shouldn't need to get extra supplements unless he's really struggling with arthritis (in which case, talk to your vet).  Senior food can also have a more balanced approach to fats, calories and protein more aimed at less active older dogs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9425.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"sj9evb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it worth it to feed my senior dog senior pet food formula? The title sums up my question. What is so special about senior pet food formula? Is it worthwhile to get it? Or can I get by with just regular pet food and some supplements?","c_root_id_A":"hvff6j4","c_root_id_B":"hvf8mfm","created_at_utc_A":1643901188,"created_at_utc_B":1643898493,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but I work in the pet shop industry... I would say yes, feed him senior food.  Senior food can have extra additives such as glucosamine and condroitin to help with joint issues and arthritis. If you get a good quality food, from your pet shop or vet, rather than supermarket shit, you shouldn't need to get extra supplements unless he's really struggling with arthritis (in which case, talk to your vet).  Senior food can also have a more balanced approach to fats, calories and protein more aimed at less active older dogs.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s up to you. Adult or senior is fine. The difference in senior is lower protein, fat and calories for more sedentary dogs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2695.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"sj9evb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is it worth it to feed my senior dog senior pet food formula? The title sums up my question. What is so special about senior pet food formula? Is it worthwhile to get it? Or can I get by with just regular pet food and some supplements?","c_root_id_A":"hvf8mfm","c_root_id_B":"hveuud1","created_at_utc_A":1643898493,"created_at_utc_B":1643891763,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It\u2019s up to you. Adult or senior is fine. The difference in senior is lower protein, fat and calories for more sedentary dogs.","human_ref_B":"Given that I am not a vet, I would still say yes.  You wouldn't feed a baby a hamburger, or a kitten adult cat food. You'd give them what they're supposed to have for where they are in their life.  Do your own research, talk with your vet about it and go from there.  But I'm saying yes because the food is normally designed for the animals specific needs for their age from what I know.  Hope that helps slightly and I'm sure someone can give a more informed answer from a vet perspective.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6730.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"9tldr6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet food store worker angry at anyone feeding their pets exclusively dry food diet. What\u2019s up her butt? I went to a pet food store for my dog\u2019s regulars. A worker there went around asking if she could help anyone. Every conversation I heard from her, she wrangled back to adding special liquids to pet food. Insinuated that anyone who didn\u2019t were practically killing their animals.   The \u201cliquids\u201d she was peddling ranged from raw goat milk to special milk formulas, broths and sweet potato pur\u00e9es. She did seem focused on first trying to sell the raw goat milk, for almost $20 for a small carton.   She jumped down a woman\u2019s throat because she said she was giving her cat 2 tablespoons of some special nutritional broth. \u201cTHAT\u2019S NOT ENOUGH!!!\u201d Everyone she talked to, she fear mongered. I\u2019m surprised she didn\u2019t start saying \u201cCASKETS ARE ON AISLE 5, WHICH IS WHERE YOUR DOG WILL GO IF YOU DON\u2019T BUY YADDA YADDA.\u201d  She seemed unhinged, and I didn\u2019t want to talk to her to have her explain what she was raving about. My dog eats Orijen dry food, as she has had a lot of tartar buildup on her teeth. She doesn\u2019t get much wet...anything. Sometimes some canned pumpkin.   The woman seemed bent on just selling any kind of liquids, because pet food required some kind of liquid. Any liquid. Liquid they just happened to sell for suspiciously high costs.   Should I go ahead and start digging my dog\u2019s grave? Or was this woman just trying to sell products? Did she have some kind of point beneath the madness? Is an exclusively dry food bad for any pet?","c_root_id_A":"e8x3t3j","c_root_id_B":"e8x3nue","created_at_utc_A":1541174767,"created_at_utc_B":1541174653,"score_A":166,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Whatever you do or don't do for your dog's diet, please call the corporate HQ of that pet store and tell them what you observed. That is not the sort of behavior any employer wants behind their name.","human_ref_B":"I would have replied that supplementing a complete diet is dangerous without a vets advice :) too many vitamins and minerals are worse then a deficiency","labels":1,"seconds_difference":114.0,"score_ratio":3.1320754717}
{"post_id":"9tldr6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet food store worker angry at anyone feeding their pets exclusively dry food diet. What\u2019s up her butt? I went to a pet food store for my dog\u2019s regulars. A worker there went around asking if she could help anyone. Every conversation I heard from her, she wrangled back to adding special liquids to pet food. Insinuated that anyone who didn\u2019t were practically killing their animals.   The \u201cliquids\u201d she was peddling ranged from raw goat milk to special milk formulas, broths and sweet potato pur\u00e9es. She did seem focused on first trying to sell the raw goat milk, for almost $20 for a small carton.   She jumped down a woman\u2019s throat because she said she was giving her cat 2 tablespoons of some special nutritional broth. \u201cTHAT\u2019S NOT ENOUGH!!!\u201d Everyone she talked to, she fear mongered. I\u2019m surprised she didn\u2019t start saying \u201cCASKETS ARE ON AISLE 5, WHICH IS WHERE YOUR DOG WILL GO IF YOU DON\u2019T BUY YADDA YADDA.\u201d  She seemed unhinged, and I didn\u2019t want to talk to her to have her explain what she was raving about. My dog eats Orijen dry food, as she has had a lot of tartar buildup on her teeth. She doesn\u2019t get much wet...anything. Sometimes some canned pumpkin.   The woman seemed bent on just selling any kind of liquids, because pet food required some kind of liquid. Any liquid. Liquid they just happened to sell for suspiciously high costs.   Should I go ahead and start digging my dog\u2019s grave? Or was this woman just trying to sell products? Did she have some kind of point beneath the madness? Is an exclusively dry food bad for any pet?","c_root_id_A":"e8x8zos","c_root_id_B":"e8x3nue","created_at_utc_A":1541178778,"created_at_utc_B":1541174653,"score_A":59,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Pet store employees have no more qualifications in vet med or nutritional science than your average minimum wage employee in other fields. Their advice in these fields is best ignored.","human_ref_B":"I would have replied that supplementing a complete diet is dangerous without a vets advice :) too many vitamins and minerals are worse then a deficiency","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4125.0,"score_ratio":1.1132075472}
{"post_id":"9tldr6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet food store worker angry at anyone feeding their pets exclusively dry food diet. What\u2019s up her butt? I went to a pet food store for my dog\u2019s regulars. A worker there went around asking if she could help anyone. Every conversation I heard from her, she wrangled back to adding special liquids to pet food. Insinuated that anyone who didn\u2019t were practically killing their animals.   The \u201cliquids\u201d she was peddling ranged from raw goat milk to special milk formulas, broths and sweet potato pur\u00e9es. She did seem focused on first trying to sell the raw goat milk, for almost $20 for a small carton.   She jumped down a woman\u2019s throat because she said she was giving her cat 2 tablespoons of some special nutritional broth. \u201cTHAT\u2019S NOT ENOUGH!!!\u201d Everyone she talked to, she fear mongered. I\u2019m surprised she didn\u2019t start saying \u201cCASKETS ARE ON AISLE 5, WHICH IS WHERE YOUR DOG WILL GO IF YOU DON\u2019T BUY YADDA YADDA.\u201d  She seemed unhinged, and I didn\u2019t want to talk to her to have her explain what she was raving about. My dog eats Orijen dry food, as she has had a lot of tartar buildup on her teeth. She doesn\u2019t get much wet...anything. Sometimes some canned pumpkin.   The woman seemed bent on just selling any kind of liquids, because pet food required some kind of liquid. Any liquid. Liquid they just happened to sell for suspiciously high costs.   Should I go ahead and start digging my dog\u2019s grave? Or was this woman just trying to sell products? Did she have some kind of point beneath the madness? Is an exclusively dry food bad for any pet?","c_root_id_A":"e8x8zos","c_root_id_B":"e8x6nk5","created_at_utc_A":1541178778,"created_at_utc_B":1541177001,"score_A":59,"score_B":34,"human_ref_A":"Pet store employees have no more qualifications in vet med or nutritional science than your average minimum wage employee in other fields. Their advice in these fields is best ignored.","human_ref_B":"A lot of pet food is getting \u2018cult like\u2019 with what is right and wrong for pets. People build strong following of brands and diet trends without consulting a veterinarian because \u2018they aren\u2019t taught nutrition in vet school\u2019 or \u2018their schooling is endorsed by xyz brand so their information is biased\u2019. Most consumers like this get their information online from various sources who think dry pet food and canned pet food is evil and the fda allows them to put terrible ingredients in the food and lets big companies put poison in the food to make profit at the expense of the beloved pets health. Some people really get into it and it sounds like the lady at the pet food store has read too much propaganda online. Once you said $20 thing of goats milk I instantly knew which brand lectured this employee and they do have a habit of creating a strong following to their product and how their product is the only thing pets should eat to live a healthy long life.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1777.0,"score_ratio":1.7352941176}
{"post_id":"9tldr6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Pet food store worker angry at anyone feeding their pets exclusively dry food diet. What\u2019s up her butt? I went to a pet food store for my dog\u2019s regulars. A worker there went around asking if she could help anyone. Every conversation I heard from her, she wrangled back to adding special liquids to pet food. Insinuated that anyone who didn\u2019t were practically killing their animals.   The \u201cliquids\u201d she was peddling ranged from raw goat milk to special milk formulas, broths and sweet potato pur\u00e9es. She did seem focused on first trying to sell the raw goat milk, for almost $20 for a small carton.   She jumped down a woman\u2019s throat because she said she was giving her cat 2 tablespoons of some special nutritional broth. \u201cTHAT\u2019S NOT ENOUGH!!!\u201d Everyone she talked to, she fear mongered. I\u2019m surprised she didn\u2019t start saying \u201cCASKETS ARE ON AISLE 5, WHICH IS WHERE YOUR DOG WILL GO IF YOU DON\u2019T BUY YADDA YADDA.\u201d  She seemed unhinged, and I didn\u2019t want to talk to her to have her explain what she was raving about. My dog eats Orijen dry food, as she has had a lot of tartar buildup on her teeth. She doesn\u2019t get much wet...anything. Sometimes some canned pumpkin.   The woman seemed bent on just selling any kind of liquids, because pet food required some kind of liquid. Any liquid. Liquid they just happened to sell for suspiciously high costs.   Should I go ahead and start digging my dog\u2019s grave? Or was this woman just trying to sell products? Did she have some kind of point beneath the madness? Is an exclusively dry food bad for any pet?","c_root_id_A":"e8xwyq0","c_root_id_B":"e8xpt1k","created_at_utc_A":1541196798,"created_at_utc_B":1541191143,"score_A":15,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I work in a corporate pet store. This sounds like a brand rep. They're horrible. We had one who would take food out of carts and put the one she sold in for a while. It was so aggressive, and I couldn't even bring myself to interact with her because how dare she approach anyone and touch their carts.   Call corporate. But also tell the store manager, and explain either way you're still going to be calling corporate, but you wanted to make sure they know. The store manager has to attempt to contact you and de-escalate, but you can still make sure everyone knows. That's rude and inappropriate behavior. Did you come to the store to be disrespected? Because unless that was the plan, you have a legitimate reason to go elsewhere and make sure corporate understands why.","human_ref_B":"Check on your state laws for sale of raw milk, it is usually pretty strictly regulated because there is a risk of illness for animals and people with unpasteurized milk. It's like raw food in that people claim wild benefits and sometimes ignore the major risks, but with way more legal restriction than the sale of raw meat","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5655.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"9ibxos","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Adopted a 4-year-old rescue cat 3 weeks ago, I've tried four different kinds of dry food but all she does is graze (1\/10th of a cup per day, roughly) but she gobbles up wet food. Tired of conflicting advice, hoping you can help me. So far I've been told:  Wet only is fine if I do other things to avoid dental problems.  Wet food only will leave her malnourished.   If I only give her dry, eventually she'll eat it.  If I only give her dry, she still won't eat it and cats will starve themselves.    I should try mixing wet food with dry food or adding water to the dry food.  I shouldn't wet the dry food because then she'll just get used to that and I have the same problem (her being reliant on me to be there to feed her every time).   So...what's the truth?","c_root_id_A":"e6iqrbm","c_root_id_B":"e6iqwj6","created_at_utc_A":1537746524,"created_at_utc_B":1537746676,"score_A":10,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Wet food is arguably better for them. Maybe she doesn\u2019t like dry but it\u2019s also worth a vet checking her gums\/teeth. Dry food could hurt her mouth.","human_ref_B":"Feed her what she likes. If it\u2019s wet food, so be it. There benefits and downsides to each,  but in the end a fed kitty is a healthy kitty","labels":0,"seconds_difference":152.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"9ibxos","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Adopted a 4-year-old rescue cat 3 weeks ago, I've tried four different kinds of dry food but all she does is graze (1\/10th of a cup per day, roughly) but she gobbles up wet food. Tired of conflicting advice, hoping you can help me. So far I've been told:  Wet only is fine if I do other things to avoid dental problems.  Wet food only will leave her malnourished.   If I only give her dry, eventually she'll eat it.  If I only give her dry, she still won't eat it and cats will starve themselves.    I should try mixing wet food with dry food or adding water to the dry food.  I shouldn't wet the dry food because then she'll just get used to that and I have the same problem (her being reliant on me to be there to feed her every time).   So...what's the truth?","c_root_id_A":"e6j9d9q","c_root_id_B":"e6ixvv4","created_at_utc_A":1537767050,"created_at_utc_B":1537753684,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Don't over analyze this - just give the cat wet food!","human_ref_B":"Like everybody else said, for the most part wet food is going to be generally better for your cat's health, with the bonus that it can't be left out so your cat gets a consistent feeding schedule, which is good for their well being too.   Dental health is only a minor concern for such a young cat and isn't actually improved by dry food, but if you're worried you can regularly offer her hard\/dental treats, or even consider brushing her teeth occasionally.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13366.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"9ibxos","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Adopted a 4-year-old rescue cat 3 weeks ago, I've tried four different kinds of dry food but all she does is graze (1\/10th of a cup per day, roughly) but she gobbles up wet food. Tired of conflicting advice, hoping you can help me. So far I've been told:  Wet only is fine if I do other things to avoid dental problems.  Wet food only will leave her malnourished.   If I only give her dry, eventually she'll eat it.  If I only give her dry, she still won't eat it and cats will starve themselves.    I should try mixing wet food with dry food or adding water to the dry food.  I shouldn't wet the dry food because then she'll just get used to that and I have the same problem (her being reliant on me to be there to feed her every time).   So...what's the truth?","c_root_id_A":"e6izoh4","c_root_id_B":"e6j9d9q","created_at_utc_A":1537755462,"created_at_utc_B":1537767050,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"If your cat prefers wet food, then give her wet food! Fed is best. Just make sure that she gets an annual dental cleaning and try brushing her teeth.","human_ref_B":"Don't over analyze this - just give the cat wet food!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11588.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"dxxx8t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can\u2019t get rid of fleas and cat has bad reaction to flea medications. Please help. A few months ago I gave my cat his regular Advantage II dose and he seemed like he has a seizure - he froze up, would hardly walk, look terrified, and shook his back paws every time he walked. I started washing it off with Dawn and water immediately and he improved.  I was too horrified to dose him again. Fast forward three months or so and the flea problem is worse. I tried to give him Advantage again and he just had the same exact reaction - frozen and shaking his paws. What else can I possibly do besides vacuum? I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end. This is horrible and I\u2019m disgusted finding them in my bed. Please someone tell me what to do. I\u2019m terrified of trying to give him any other drugs if this is the reaction.","c_root_id_A":"f7x9guo","c_root_id_B":"f7xer3b","created_at_utc_A":1574049976,"created_at_utc_B":1574054835,"score_A":6,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Sounds your cat is touching the medicine and then licking it. Are you applying it the right spot?","human_ref_B":"Some things you can do to help manage the population of fleas in your home while you figure this problem out are vacuum everywhere obsessively  ( move furniture, vacuum couches, everything soft DO NOT EMPTY THE VACUUM CANISTER INSIDE YOUR HOUSE TAKE IT OUTSIDE TO THE DUMPSTER.), wash clothing, bed sheets, and other soft things your cat comes in contact with in the highest heat setting you have every day and if you can get your cat out of the house for a day, use a flea bomb ( I think they only kill adult fleas though. )   Again, these are only tips to help you manage the flea population until you can figure out a solution for medicating your cat. I hope this helps!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4859.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"dxxx8t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can\u2019t get rid of fleas and cat has bad reaction to flea medications. Please help. A few months ago I gave my cat his regular Advantage II dose and he seemed like he has a seizure - he froze up, would hardly walk, look terrified, and shook his back paws every time he walked. I started washing it off with Dawn and water immediately and he improved.  I was too horrified to dose him again. Fast forward three months or so and the flea problem is worse. I tried to give him Advantage again and he just had the same exact reaction - frozen and shaking his paws. What else can I possibly do besides vacuum? I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end. This is horrible and I\u2019m disgusted finding them in my bed. Please someone tell me what to do. I\u2019m terrified of trying to give him any other drugs if this is the reaction.","c_root_id_A":"f7xtnoa","c_root_id_B":"f7xxc70","created_at_utc_A":1574074893,"created_at_utc_B":1574079502,"score_A":10,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I would take him to the vet for a prescribed flea medication. Alot of over the counter drops and such aren't working due to fleas being amune. Also to have the vet look the cat over as that is not normal and definitely should be dealt with.","human_ref_B":"You may also consider asking your vet for other flea and tick meds. They do not all have the same active ingredients so one may be a better option for you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4609.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"dxxx8t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can\u2019t get rid of fleas and cat has bad reaction to flea medications. Please help. A few months ago I gave my cat his regular Advantage II dose and he seemed like he has a seizure - he froze up, would hardly walk, look terrified, and shook his back paws every time he walked. I started washing it off with Dawn and water immediately and he improved.  I was too horrified to dose him again. Fast forward three months or so and the flea problem is worse. I tried to give him Advantage again and he just had the same exact reaction - frozen and shaking his paws. What else can I possibly do besides vacuum? I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end. This is horrible and I\u2019m disgusted finding them in my bed. Please someone tell me what to do. I\u2019m terrified of trying to give him any other drugs if this is the reaction.","c_root_id_A":"f7x9guo","c_root_id_B":"f7xxc70","created_at_utc_A":1574049976,"created_at_utc_B":1574079502,"score_A":6,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Sounds your cat is touching the medicine and then licking it. Are you applying it the right spot?","human_ref_B":"You may also consider asking your vet for other flea and tick meds. They do not all have the same active ingredients so one may be a better option for you","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29526.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"dxxx8t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Can\u2019t get rid of fleas and cat has bad reaction to flea medications. Please help. A few months ago I gave my cat his regular Advantage II dose and he seemed like he has a seizure - he froze up, would hardly walk, look terrified, and shook his back paws every time he walked. I started washing it off with Dawn and water immediately and he improved.  I was too horrified to dose him again. Fast forward three months or so and the flea problem is worse. I tried to give him Advantage again and he just had the same exact reaction - frozen and shaking his paws. What else can I possibly do besides vacuum? I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end. This is horrible and I\u2019m disgusted finding them in my bed. Please someone tell me what to do. I\u2019m terrified of trying to give him any other drugs if this is the reaction.","c_root_id_A":"f7xtnoa","c_root_id_B":"f7x9guo","created_at_utc_A":1574074893,"created_at_utc_B":1574049976,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I would take him to the vet for a prescribed flea medication. Alot of over the counter drops and such aren't working due to fleas being amune. Also to have the vet look the cat over as that is not normal and definitely should be dealt with.","human_ref_B":"Sounds your cat is touching the medicine and then licking it. Are you applying it the right spot?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24917.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdq3sd","c_root_id_B":"gxdz30r","created_at_utc_A":1620476764,"created_at_utc_B":1620482349,"score_A":19,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"Take her to the vet again. They can prescribe meds to help her and let you know more about how she is doing","human_ref_B":"It's very dangerous for cats to not eat. She needs to go back to vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5585.0,"score_ratio":1.7368421053}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdi4b7","c_root_id_B":"gxdz30r","created_at_utc_A":1620470275,"created_at_utc_B":1620482349,"score_A":5,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"See if you can call the vet with an update as to how she's doing.  They're more familiar with her case and may be able to help her feel better.","human_ref_B":"It's very dangerous for cats to not eat. She needs to go back to vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12074.0,"score_ratio":6.6}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdz30r","c_root_id_B":"gxdq7m3","created_at_utc_A":1620482349,"created_at_utc_B":1620476838,"score_A":33,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"It's very dangerous for cats to not eat. She needs to go back to vet.","human_ref_B":"I'd definitely recommend you get with your vet especially if you're not sure about her drinking water. They may also be able to try a different pain medication.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5511.0,"score_ratio":6.6}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdz30r","c_root_id_B":"gxdyfgt","created_at_utc_A":1620482349,"created_at_utc_B":1620481991,"score_A":33,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It's very dangerous for cats to not eat. She needs to go back to vet.","human_ref_B":"Take her back to the vet soon. It\u2019s better to treat early than wait and see.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":358.0,"score_ratio":16.5}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdz742","c_root_id_B":"gxdq3sd","created_at_utc_A":1620482413,"created_at_utc_B":1620476764,"score_A":24,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"You really need to call your vet back and give them an update on her condition and ask that they do a recheck appointment immediately. If you cannot get ahold of your vet, go to the nearest emergency vet clinic.","human_ref_B":"Take her to the vet again. They can prescribe meds to help her and let you know more about how she is doing","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5649.0,"score_ratio":1.2631578947}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdz742","c_root_id_B":"gxdi4b7","created_at_utc_A":1620482413,"created_at_utc_B":1620470275,"score_A":24,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"You really need to call your vet back and give them an update on her condition and ask that they do a recheck appointment immediately. If you cannot get ahold of your vet, go to the nearest emergency vet clinic.","human_ref_B":"See if you can call the vet with an update as to how she's doing.  They're more familiar with her case and may be able to help her feel better.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12138.0,"score_ratio":4.8}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdq7m3","c_root_id_B":"gxdz742","created_at_utc_A":1620476838,"created_at_utc_B":1620482413,"score_A":5,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"I'd definitely recommend you get with your vet especially if you're not sure about her drinking water. They may also be able to try a different pain medication.","human_ref_B":"You really need to call your vet back and give them an update on her condition and ask that they do a recheck appointment immediately. If you cannot get ahold of your vet, go to the nearest emergency vet clinic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5575.0,"score_ratio":4.8}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdyfgt","c_root_id_B":"gxdz742","created_at_utc_A":1620481991,"created_at_utc_B":1620482413,"score_A":2,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Take her back to the vet soon. It\u2019s better to treat early than wait and see.","human_ref_B":"You really need to call your vet back and give them an update on her condition and ask that they do a recheck appointment immediately. If you cannot get ahold of your vet, go to the nearest emergency vet clinic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":422.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdq3sd","c_root_id_B":"gxdi4b7","created_at_utc_A":1620476764,"created_at_utc_B":1620470275,"score_A":19,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Take her to the vet again. They can prescribe meds to help her and let you know more about how she is doing","human_ref_B":"See if you can call the vet with an update as to how she's doing.  They're more familiar with her case and may be able to help her feel better.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6489.0,"score_ratio":3.8}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdi4b7","c_root_id_B":"gxe23yn","created_at_utc_A":1620470275,"created_at_utc_B":1620483989,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"See if you can call the vet with an update as to how she's doing.  They're more familiar with her case and may be able to help her feel better.","human_ref_B":"110% take her back to the vet at minimum CALL the vet","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13714.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxdq7m3","c_root_id_B":"gxe23yn","created_at_utc_A":1620476838,"created_at_utc_B":1620483989,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I'd definitely recommend you get with your vet especially if you're not sure about her drinking water. They may also be able to try a different pain medication.","human_ref_B":"110% take her back to the vet at minimum CALL the vet","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7151.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"n7manz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is my cat dying?    * **Species:  Cat** * **Age: 14**  * **Sex\/Neuter status: Female, neutered** * **Breed: Tricolor\/Tortoiseshell** * **Body weight: under 4kg** * **History: partially crippled since young age, recently removed large cancerous polyp.** * **Clinical signs: Lethargy, apathy, has not eaten in at least 2 days, ignores anyone unless she's pet in which case she just purrs, generally unkempt, unclear if she's drinking water.** * **Duration: Since wednesday 5\/5 (polyp removal surgery)** * **Your general location: Israel** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.**      Please be straight with me. She's the most loving, attention seeking cat I know and she has barely even looked our way since the surgery. She even refused tuna for the first time ever and her favorite treats. We've tried giving her painkillers as instructed by the vet but she just throws it up, even with peanut butter.   I'm just so fucking scared and confused and I dunno if I should be pestering her this much or just let her chill out or take her to the vet again.","c_root_id_A":"gxe23yn","c_root_id_B":"gxdyfgt","created_at_utc_A":1620483989,"created_at_utc_B":1620481991,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"110% take her back to the vet at minimum CALL the vet","human_ref_B":"Take her back to the vet soon. It\u2019s better to treat early than wait and see.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1998.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"afs51f","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Why are my two strictly-indoor cats suddenly enemies? Two cats; Ages 4(m) and 3(f); both neutered & spayed and are strictly indoor cats. No other animals in house and have lived together since they were 8 months and 3 weeks respectively with no issues whatsoever.   Around 8 hours ago, my husband and I left for errands and all was well. We returned 6 hours ago and all hell broke loose. The cats have been fighting - not playing - every time they make eye contact since we\u2019ve been home. Deep growling, hissing, chasing, fur flying and just a bit ago found around a 1\/4\u201d cut behind the ear of the younger\/female cat.   What could possibly have brought this on and what can we do to remedy this?  To worsen the situation, my husband and I both have trips out of town tomorrow. Luckily mine is only one night, but would rather prevent returning to a bloodbath if possible.","c_root_id_A":"ee1ijl8","c_root_id_B":"ee1b5kx","created_at_utc_A":1547466177,"created_at_utc_B":1547453017,"score_A":13,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Source: Animal carer at a UK cattery.  First thing to do is vet visit to rule out any medical issues in both cats.  If all is clear then you need to take steps to ensure that they do not have access to each other and to double all available resources, also possibly increase the amount of enrichment available.  Below is a couple of links on cat behaviour so you can troubleshoot on the possible causes, once they have had some time apart you could start doing reintroduction's as well :)  https:\/\/www.jacksongalaxy.com\/  https:\/\/www.cats.org.uk\/cat-care\/cat-behaviour-hub","human_ref_B":"Is it possible to keep them in separate areas of the house for the time being until you return home?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13160.0,"score_ratio":1.625}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1b5p5h","c_root_id_B":"j1ad0kx","created_at_utc_A":1671754969,"created_at_utc_B":1671742752,"score_A":12,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Crows and ravens not only can tell different animals apart but have different vocalizations for species they come across often.  Therefore, they can warn their friends that a certain mean cat has shown up or that the human with the peanuts is here.  In the wild, they\u2019ve been known to lead wolves to prey so they can eat the scraps once the wolves are done.  Some have learned to do this with human hunters, too.","human_ref_B":"Yes they can tell different species apart. They are natural predators and its important that they can tell the difference between their prey species or those other predator species.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12217.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j19j4be","c_root_id_B":"j1b5p5h","created_at_utc_A":1671731041,"created_at_utc_B":1671754969,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"If you read different materials on this you'll get different answers, but I'm of the opinion that dogs cannot tell different breeds apart, but they can tell the difference between different animals. If dogs could tell breeds of dogs apart so well, why is there so much interbreeding among strays? The smell is mostly to tell individual dogs apart from other individual dogs, because every dog has unique smell.","human_ref_B":"Crows and ravens not only can tell different animals apart but have different vocalizations for species they come across often.  Therefore, they can warn their friends that a certain mean cat has shown up or that the human with the peanuts is here.  In the wild, they\u2019ve been known to lead wolves to prey so they can eat the scraps once the wolves are done.  Some have learned to do this with human hunters, too.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23928.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1and4k","c_root_id_B":"j1b5p5h","created_at_utc_A":1671746960,"created_at_utc_B":1671754969,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Tbh we can't know for sure since we can't ask them, but they at least understand that other animals are different. Dogs can be super friendly with any new dog they meet, but the second they meet a cat, or a horse, or whatever, they may bark, chase or hide, when they wouldn't do that for other dogs. However that doesn't mean they comprehend \"species\" - some dogs will treat small dogs differently than big dogs, while others don't.   As for whether they understand the \"divide\" brtween humans and the animal kingdom I would say no since there is no divide. We are just animals.","human_ref_B":"Crows and ravens not only can tell different animals apart but have different vocalizations for species they come across often.  Therefore, they can warn their friends that a certain mean cat has shown up or that the human with the peanuts is here.  In the wild, they\u2019ve been known to lead wolves to prey so they can eat the scraps once the wolves are done.  Some have learned to do this with human hunters, too.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8009.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1b5p5h","c_root_id_B":"j1a2idh","created_at_utc_A":1671754969,"created_at_utc_B":1671738614,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Crows and ravens not only can tell different animals apart but have different vocalizations for species they come across often.  Therefore, they can warn their friends that a certain mean cat has shown up or that the human with the peanuts is here.  In the wild, they\u2019ve been known to lead wolves to prey so they can eat the scraps once the wolves are done.  Some have learned to do this with human hunters, too.","human_ref_B":"Dogs and cats are pretty cool other animals if they don\u2019t feel threatened or they don\u2019t like they are intruding in their space. I think that animals are more intelligent than we think they are, just different kind of experience.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16355.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1ad0kx","c_root_id_B":"j19j4be","created_at_utc_A":1671742752,"created_at_utc_B":1671731041,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Yes they can tell different species apart. They are natural predators and its important that they can tell the difference between their prey species or those other predator species.","human_ref_B":"If you read different materials on this you'll get different answers, but I'm of the opinion that dogs cannot tell different breeds apart, but they can tell the difference between different animals. If dogs could tell breeds of dogs apart so well, why is there so much interbreeding among strays? The smell is mostly to tell individual dogs apart from other individual dogs, because every dog has unique smell.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11711.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1ad0kx","c_root_id_B":"j1a2idh","created_at_utc_A":1671742752,"created_at_utc_B":1671738614,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes they can tell different species apart. They are natural predators and its important that they can tell the difference between their prey species or those other predator species.","human_ref_B":"Dogs and cats are pretty cool other animals if they don\u2019t feel threatened or they don\u2019t like they are intruding in their space. I think that animals are more intelligent than we think they are, just different kind of experience.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4138.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1b8133","c_root_id_B":"j19j4be","created_at_utc_A":1671756042,"created_at_utc_B":1671731041,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If you watch animals who speak with buttons, they can learn the difference between human, cat, dog, etc. so I\u2019d say definitely yes.  As to your second question, I think humans are the only ones selfish enough to think we\u2019re above everything else on the planet. Animals aren\u2019t going to sense something that isn\u2019t real to begin with.","human_ref_B":"If you read different materials on this you'll get different answers, but I'm of the opinion that dogs cannot tell different breeds apart, but they can tell the difference between different animals. If dogs could tell breeds of dogs apart so well, why is there so much interbreeding among strays? The smell is mostly to tell individual dogs apart from other individual dogs, because every dog has unique smell.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25001.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1and4k","c_root_id_B":"j1b8133","created_at_utc_A":1671746960,"created_at_utc_B":1671756042,"score_A":3,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Tbh we can't know for sure since we can't ask them, but they at least understand that other animals are different. Dogs can be super friendly with any new dog they meet, but the second they meet a cat, or a horse, or whatever, they may bark, chase or hide, when they wouldn't do that for other dogs. However that doesn't mean they comprehend \"species\" - some dogs will treat small dogs differently than big dogs, while others don't.   As for whether they understand the \"divide\" brtween humans and the animal kingdom I would say no since there is no divide. We are just animals.","human_ref_B":"If you watch animals who speak with buttons, they can learn the difference between human, cat, dog, etc. so I\u2019d say definitely yes.  As to your second question, I think humans are the only ones selfish enough to think we\u2019re above everything else on the planet. Animals aren\u2019t going to sense something that isn\u2019t real to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9082.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1a2idh","c_root_id_B":"j1b8133","created_at_utc_A":1671738614,"created_at_utc_B":1671756042,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Dogs and cats are pretty cool other animals if they don\u2019t feel threatened or they don\u2019t like they are intruding in their space. I think that animals are more intelligent than we think they are, just different kind of experience.","human_ref_B":"If you watch animals who speak with buttons, they can learn the difference between human, cat, dog, etc. so I\u2019d say definitely yes.  As to your second question, I think humans are the only ones selfish enough to think we\u2019re above everything else on the planet. Animals aren\u2019t going to sense something that isn\u2019t real to begin with.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17428.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"zskcl7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Do animals have an understanding of the difference between species and know when they're interacting with entirely different animals? There are plenty of amazing videos on YouTube of unusual interactions between animals.  I was watching today videos of sloths cuddling dogs and cats (super cute).  The question came up in my mind: \"does the cat\/dog in this situation realize that the sloths is an entirely different type of animal or does it just perceive it to be an unusual looking cat?\"  Which brings me onto another meta question .... do cats and dogs have an instinctive understanding of the divide between us humans and the animal kingdom?","c_root_id_A":"j1a2idh","c_root_id_B":"j1and4k","created_at_utc_A":1671738614,"created_at_utc_B":1671746960,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Dogs and cats are pretty cool other animals if they don\u2019t feel threatened or they don\u2019t like they are intruding in their space. I think that animals are more intelligent than we think they are, just different kind of experience.","human_ref_B":"Tbh we can't know for sure since we can't ask them, but they at least understand that other animals are different. Dogs can be super friendly with any new dog they meet, but the second they meet a cat, or a horse, or whatever, they may bark, chase or hide, when they wouldn't do that for other dogs. However that doesn't mean they comprehend \"species\" - some dogs will treat small dogs differently than big dogs, while others don't.   As for whether they understand the \"divide\" brtween humans and the animal kingdom I would say no since there is no divide. We are just animals.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8346.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yfq0t6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Do vets get kick back for selling vet exclusive food through their clinic? Hi, I am asking if vets get any kind of kick back for my having to order special food through them vs me just getting a prescription from them and ordering from the manufacture directly i.e. Rayne. Going to the clinic every 1.5 months is a pain in the ass for me to get 25lb dog food especially with upcoming winter. Would be way easier to have it shipped directly to me. And so im asking this to see if the vet will give me a hard time with just giving me the slip and letting me ordering it directly to my place.  &#x200B;  TIA","c_root_id_A":"iu58kbd","c_root_id_B":"iu5kn4h","created_at_utc_A":1666977450,"created_at_utc_B":1666982315,"score_A":15,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"you can definitely get it written on a prescription paper and get your dog food through chewy or other similar online portals that ship directly to your home.","human_ref_B":"A lot of vets have online pharmacies you could set up an auto ship with. Then you don't have to mess with getting for uploading or ensuring prescriptions are up to date (I mean they need to be, but if you're ordering online at your vet then they have that info there).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4865.0,"score_ratio":1.0666666667}
{"post_id":"yfq0t6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Do vets get kick back for selling vet exclusive food through their clinic? Hi, I am asking if vets get any kind of kick back for my having to order special food through them vs me just getting a prescription from them and ordering from the manufacture directly i.e. Rayne. Going to the clinic every 1.5 months is a pain in the ass for me to get 25lb dog food especially with upcoming winter. Would be way easier to have it shipped directly to me. And so im asking this to see if the vet will give me a hard time with just giving me the slip and letting me ordering it directly to my place.  &#x200B;  TIA","c_root_id_A":"iu5sghv","c_root_id_B":"iu642t1","created_at_utc_A":1666985510,"created_at_utc_B":1666990327,"score_A":11,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"I have worked in the industry for over 20 years and neither vets, nor clinics get a kick back of the food sold. That being said, I've not heard of being able to order from Rayne, RoyalCanin or Hills directly either?  Depending on your area  your vet might be able to write you a prescription and you can order the food from somewhere else though. Keep in kind too that, if you buy a bigger bag, you pay less per volume, so it'll be more economical.  My own dog is on Purina HA Vegetarian, so I defifeel your pain about the cost!","human_ref_B":"No, it's not lucrative for vets to sell food. The inventory and space costs are very high and they don't make much profit from food.  Most vets only stock prescription food","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4817.0,"score_ratio":1.0909090909}
{"post_id":"yfq0t6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Do vets get kick back for selling vet exclusive food through their clinic? Hi, I am asking if vets get any kind of kick back for my having to order special food through them vs me just getting a prescription from them and ordering from the manufacture directly i.e. Rayne. Going to the clinic every 1.5 months is a pain in the ass for me to get 25lb dog food especially with upcoming winter. Would be way easier to have it shipped directly to me. And so im asking this to see if the vet will give me a hard time with just giving me the slip and letting me ordering it directly to my place.  &#x200B;  TIA","c_root_id_A":"iu642t1","c_root_id_B":"iu5vc69","created_at_utc_A":1666990327,"created_at_utc_B":1666986681,"score_A":12,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"No, it's not lucrative for vets to sell food. The inventory and space costs are very high and they don't make much profit from food.  Most vets only stock prescription food","human_ref_B":"When you buy the food from the vet it's usually marked up but they don't get a kickback for prescribing it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3646.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"yfq0t6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Do vets get kick back for selling vet exclusive food through their clinic? Hi, I am asking if vets get any kind of kick back for my having to order special food through them vs me just getting a prescription from them and ordering from the manufacture directly i.e. Rayne. Going to the clinic every 1.5 months is a pain in the ass for me to get 25lb dog food especially with upcoming winter. Would be way easier to have it shipped directly to me. And so im asking this to see if the vet will give me a hard time with just giving me the slip and letting me ordering it directly to my place.  &#x200B;  TIA","c_root_id_A":"iu661e6","c_root_id_B":"iu7fdfk","created_at_utc_A":1666991169,"created_at_utc_B":1667013052,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I don't believe so. However, I wanted to comment on this recommend Chewy for your prescription food! You can put the script in or they will fax your vet office for authorization & it's much cheaper.","human_ref_B":"Vet tech here for 16+ years.  We get NOTHING for selling certain foods, barely even a discount for our own pets.  We do not get awesome cruises and vacations as the internet would have you believe.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21883.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yfq0t6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"Do vets get kick back for selling vet exclusive food through their clinic? Hi, I am asking if vets get any kind of kick back for my having to order special food through them vs me just getting a prescription from them and ordering from the manufacture directly i.e. Rayne. Going to the clinic every 1.5 months is a pain in the ass for me to get 25lb dog food especially with upcoming winter. Would be way easier to have it shipped directly to me. And so im asking this to see if the vet will give me a hard time with just giving me the slip and letting me ordering it directly to my place.  &#x200B;  TIA","c_root_id_A":"iu7fdfk","c_root_id_B":"iu71gx2","created_at_utc_A":1667013052,"created_at_utc_B":1667005983,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Vet tech here for 16+ years.  We get NOTHING for selling certain foods, barely even a discount for our own pets.  We do not get awesome cruises and vacations as the internet would have you believe.","human_ref_B":"Nope. And often clinics try not to have an excessive amount of food on hand anyway and have clients purchase online.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7069.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"8potzb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"If one of your clients takes excellent care of their cats, how many is too many? My wife and I have five cats and a dog, and we've been offered an opportunity to adopt either one cat or a bonded pair. We're considering it since we have a large house (6 bedrooms), they're all up to date on their check-ups and shots, and we completely spoil the ones we have. A little worried what people (including our vet, who's a pretty chill person, but still) would think. If one of your clients took excellent care of their pets and their pets were happy, would you care how many they had?","c_root_id_A":"e0cw1d8","c_root_id_B":"e0cw4qr","created_at_utc_A":1528503015,"created_at_utc_B":1528503128,"score_A":6,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"If I worked at your vets office I would just hope you brought no more than 2 at a time. This way any and all concerns could be addressed without having to go over info for 6 different patients. As an assistant, if there's more than 3 in a family in one visit things can get a little complicated.","human_ref_B":"Vet tech here. One of our clients had around 50 cats and 1 dog. She and her husband take excellent care of them. They have a back house for the FELV\/FIV ones. They have taken radiographs on every single cat because they found 1 cat that had a BB gun bullet in it, they have found more(in other cats) and they remove them all. All the FIV cats are currently on T-cyte attempting to cure them of their FIV status. Around 800$ a month for that alone. They bring in spreadsheets on requested annual exams and are sometimes 365 days exact to the last exam. They take in cats from owner surrenders. When we have kittens in the clinic we have to hide them from her but she finds them anyway lol. She brought in a cat tree for our clinic cat. Wonderful person and client. Personally I think 50 cats is insane but she does all she can and they are all rescues, they approach her she does not seek them out.  Bottom line. They will not bat an eye at 7 cats. My old boss(DVM) has 11 cats and 2 dogs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":113.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"8potzb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"If one of your clients takes excellent care of their cats, how many is too many? My wife and I have five cats and a dog, and we've been offered an opportunity to adopt either one cat or a bonded pair. We're considering it since we have a large house (6 bedrooms), they're all up to date on their check-ups and shots, and we completely spoil the ones we have. A little worried what people (including our vet, who's a pretty chill person, but still) would think. If one of your clients took excellent care of their pets and their pets were happy, would you care how many they had?","c_root_id_A":"e0cx58z","c_root_id_B":"e0cw1d8","created_at_utc_A":1528504327,"created_at_utc_B":1528503015,"score_A":12,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Honestly I'm usually just impressed when people with several cats, especially several special needs cats, are willing and able to appropriately care for them.  You may want to check into local laws though, to see what is legally considered hoarding, just in case.","human_ref_B":"If I worked at your vets office I would just hope you brought no more than 2 at a time. This way any and all concerns could be addressed without having to go over info for 6 different patients. As an assistant, if there's more than 3 in a family in one visit things can get a little complicated.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1312.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"8rx6cg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"My dog is gonna be put to sleep tomorrow morning. Severe bloody diarrhea, continuous vomitting even with treatment. We can't afford anymore. My beagle is 10 years old 36 lbs, spayed. She got sick Saturday morning. She threw up 15 times and had this wouldn't eat (very out of character). We took her to the vet all day. Bloodwork, pancreatic snap, x-rays all look normal. She improved with care and was sent home. Shortly after she got home, she declined rapidly. Vomitting and worse bloody diarrhea. ER vet overnight until this afternoon. She developed a fever of 104 in 3 hours. She improved and was discharged. Same thing. Perked up at the vet and then declined again. She won't move, wouldn't eat. Threw up again 2 more times. We finally got her to eat but her belly is painful and she's naseous. We are already at $2000 in care. We can't afford anymore, so we painfully are deciding to euthanize her in the morning. I'm worried we are doing the wrong thing since she's eating again but is still lethargic and painful.https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/qrcVAzi","c_root_id_A":"e0uxm1v","c_root_id_B":"e0uy2fi","created_at_utc_A":1529303967,"created_at_utc_B":1529304861,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"She improved \"with care\" at the clinics. We don't even know what that entails and you're still insinuating that the vets are, what? Making stuff up? When you confine an animal and probably have them on IV fluids they almost always do better than when they have free range at home and are in a place where they feel comfortable acting sick.     OP this was a terrible choice but know it's one that happens more often than we like. If you can't spend another giant chunk of money on testing and treatments that may or may NOT get you any closer to a diagnosis and\/or resolution, and all the while your baby is suffering, you made a humane choice.","human_ref_B":"I was responding to the person you responded to who suggested it was \"fishy\" that she got better under vet care and then got worse at home. Totally on your side, OP.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":894.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgaehf","c_root_id_B":"fbggt7m","created_at_utc_A":1576842416,"created_at_utc_B":1576849010,"score_A":35,"score_B":96,"human_ref_A":"It is illegal for human doctors to diagnose and treat animals, just as it is illegal for vets to treat humans.","human_ref_B":"While the general principles are largely the same (at least between mammals), the details can vary wildly between species, which is why there\u2019s no \u201cuniversal license\u201d to practice medicine.   A few examples off the top of my head:  1) Tylenol will fry a cat\u2019s liver; it\u2019s safe in people.  (I actually heard a story that Tylenol\u2019s release to market was delayed for years because they tested it on cats and the test subjects all got liver failure and died, so they thought it was toxic.  Not sure if that\u2019s actually true.)  2) Human doctors seem to be able to combine NSAIDs and steroids in their patients with no problem. We risk giving our patients a perforating ulcer if we do that.  3) The meloxicam dose for a cat starts at half the dog dose. The suggested dose for a chicken is six times the dog dose. The dose for a rabbit is ten times the dog dose.  Don\u2019t assume that your training on the human side will allow you to safely treat your own critters.  Your question is the equivalent of me asking you how to treat my (human) family members myself.  We\u2019ve all had clients in the human medical field (especially nurses, for some reason) do serious damage to a patient because they assumed they knew what they were doing and didn\u2019t have an understanding of the critical differences between our patients and theirs.  If you want to help your critters, maintain a relationship with your vet, have your pets seen regularly, and make sure to check with them *before* you do something treatment-wise.  If you have questions about something, by all means have that conversation with them - frankly, some days, it would be a relief for most of us to be able to have an intelligent discussion about a treatment plan.  Also, if you could let the human side know that just because animals aren\u2019t actively complaining doesn\u2019t mean that they\u2019re not in pain, that would be great.  Injuries hurt them just as much as us, and the number of human medical people that flat-up ignore that is too damn high.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6594.0,"score_ratio":2.7428571429}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbggt7m","c_root_id_B":"fbggiog","created_at_utc_A":1576849010,"created_at_utc_B":1576848751,"score_A":96,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"While the general principles are largely the same (at least between mammals), the details can vary wildly between species, which is why there\u2019s no \u201cuniversal license\u201d to practice medicine.   A few examples off the top of my head:  1) Tylenol will fry a cat\u2019s liver; it\u2019s safe in people.  (I actually heard a story that Tylenol\u2019s release to market was delayed for years because they tested it on cats and the test subjects all got liver failure and died, so they thought it was toxic.  Not sure if that\u2019s actually true.)  2) Human doctors seem to be able to combine NSAIDs and steroids in their patients with no problem. We risk giving our patients a perforating ulcer if we do that.  3) The meloxicam dose for a cat starts at half the dog dose. The suggested dose for a chicken is six times the dog dose. The dose for a rabbit is ten times the dog dose.  Don\u2019t assume that your training on the human side will allow you to safely treat your own critters.  Your question is the equivalent of me asking you how to treat my (human) family members myself.  We\u2019ve all had clients in the human medical field (especially nurses, for some reason) do serious damage to a patient because they assumed they knew what they were doing and didn\u2019t have an understanding of the critical differences between our patients and theirs.  If you want to help your critters, maintain a relationship with your vet, have your pets seen regularly, and make sure to check with them *before* you do something treatment-wise.  If you have questions about something, by all means have that conversation with them - frankly, some days, it would be a relief for most of us to be able to have an intelligent discussion about a treatment plan.  Also, if you could let the human side know that just because animals aren\u2019t actively complaining doesn\u2019t mean that they\u2019re not in pain, that would be great.  Injuries hurt them just as much as us, and the number of human medical people that flat-up ignore that is too damn high.","human_ref_B":"Well, I'm not an MD so it's hard to say exactly, but pretty much most things, with minor tweaks to account for species specific differences.  That said, because there ARE specific differences, you'd want to consult with your veterinarian before initiating any treatment on your own since the differences may be subtle, but significant and potentially fatal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":259.0,"score_ratio":13.7142857143}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgjlw9","c_root_id_B":"fbggiog","created_at_utc_A":1576851290,"created_at_utc_B":1576848751,"score_A":22,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"There is overlap in diseases and principle but the treatments (primarily in terms of appropriate and safe drugs) vary widely. It is irresponsible to assume you can treat an animal as you would a human, just as I would not treat a human or an animal species with which I am not familiar. You presumably know a differential list for the things you treat in humans, and the side effects\/risks\/adverse effects of the meds you use. Do you know those differential lists for dogs or the possible side effects of medications? The dose? If not, you should not be treating animals.","human_ref_B":"Well, I'm not an MD so it's hard to say exactly, but pretty much most things, with minor tweaks to account for species specific differences.  That said, because there ARE specific differences, you'd want to consult with your veterinarian before initiating any treatment on your own since the differences may be subtle, but significant and potentially fatal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2539.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgyrg0","c_root_id_B":"fbgztee","created_at_utc_A":1576861658,"created_at_utc_B":1576862355,"score_A":17,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you were well intended, but reverse the roles and ask yourself if you, as an MD would be okay if one of your vet friends used a vet drug on their child.  Dangerous, ill advised, and probably illegal. Please refer to a veterinary professional before you try to treat your pet, because some human treatments could kill them. Not to mention differences in metabolism, drug interactions, etc.  Again, please don't try to treat your own pets. Just as you are an expert in your field, so are we.","human_ref_B":"*First do no harm* applies regardless of species.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":697.0,"score_ratio":1.0588235294}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgztee","c_root_id_B":"fbggiog","created_at_utc_A":1576862355,"created_at_utc_B":1576848751,"score_A":18,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"*First do no harm* applies regardless of species.","human_ref_B":"Well, I'm not an MD so it's hard to say exactly, but pretty much most things, with minor tweaks to account for species specific differences.  That said, because there ARE specific differences, you'd want to consult with your veterinarian before initiating any treatment on your own since the differences may be subtle, but significant and potentially fatal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13604.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgztee","c_root_id_B":"fbgxmk5","created_at_utc_A":1576862355,"created_at_utc_B":1576860918,"score_A":18,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"*First do no harm* applies regardless of species.","human_ref_B":"I'm currently studying veterinary medicine at Cambridge university, and during our first two years of preclinical medicine we're taught with medical students for a bunch of modules, with the major exception of all things anatomy related (plus reproductive stuff, and odd bits and bobs in other courses). It is all based on the same principles, but then vets have to learn how those principles vary when applied to the 6 major domestic species, as well as all the wonderful variety of exotics you could encounter, and equally the medics learn a bunch of stuff which is more relevant in humans than it is in non human animals (mostly related to cardiovascular disease). A nice amusing example of this is the fact that in our pharmacology exam, the first few questions are divided into vet\/medic specific questions from where we had different lectures. The vets could answer most of the medic questions by deriving principles from earlier lectures, where we couldn't always answer our own questions (stupid levels of detail on anti-parasitics and species specific pharmacokinetics\/dynamics), and the medics certainly wouldn't have known where to start with our questions. Later in our clinical course we have a big emphasis on the idea of \"OneHealth\", especially in relation to Veterinary Public Health and the food supply chain, as much of the reason we want to reduce disease in animals (especially farm animals) is to stop humans getting ill.  Pretty much all the first principles are transferable between species, but each animal species has it's own little details, which is where doctors come in for humans and vets come in for everything else","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1437.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgyrg0","c_root_id_B":"fbggiog","created_at_utc_A":1576861658,"created_at_utc_B":1576848751,"score_A":17,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you were well intended, but reverse the roles and ask yourself if you, as an MD would be okay if one of your vet friends used a vet drug on their child.  Dangerous, ill advised, and probably illegal. Please refer to a veterinary professional before you try to treat your pet, because some human treatments could kill them. Not to mention differences in metabolism, drug interactions, etc.  Again, please don't try to treat your own pets. Just as you are an expert in your field, so are we.","human_ref_B":"Well, I'm not an MD so it's hard to say exactly, but pretty much most things, with minor tweaks to account for species specific differences.  That said, because there ARE specific differences, you'd want to consult with your veterinarian before initiating any treatment on your own since the differences may be subtle, but significant and potentially fatal.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12907.0,"score_ratio":2.4285714286}
{"post_id":"ed8f0y","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Veterinarians of Reddit. What are some operations\/medical principles that are valid in animals as wells as humans? As a doctor and an animal lover I've many times wondered what parts of my knowledge I can transliterate in to helping my fur-covered friends. Are there many similarities?  When it comes to antibiotic treatments? Epilepsy? Etc  E.g my dog has had blepharitis which I treated the same way as I would a human and it worked very well.","c_root_id_A":"fbgxmk5","c_root_id_B":"fbgyrg0","created_at_utc_A":1576860918,"created_at_utc_B":1576861658,"score_A":2,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"I'm currently studying veterinary medicine at Cambridge university, and during our first two years of preclinical medicine we're taught with medical students for a bunch of modules, with the major exception of all things anatomy related (plus reproductive stuff, and odd bits and bobs in other courses). It is all based on the same principles, but then vets have to learn how those principles vary when applied to the 6 major domestic species, as well as all the wonderful variety of exotics you could encounter, and equally the medics learn a bunch of stuff which is more relevant in humans than it is in non human animals (mostly related to cardiovascular disease). A nice amusing example of this is the fact that in our pharmacology exam, the first few questions are divided into vet\/medic specific questions from where we had different lectures. The vets could answer most of the medic questions by deriving principles from earlier lectures, where we couldn't always answer our own questions (stupid levels of detail on anti-parasitics and species specific pharmacokinetics\/dynamics), and the medics certainly wouldn't have known where to start with our questions. Later in our clinical course we have a big emphasis on the idea of \"OneHealth\", especially in relation to Veterinary Public Health and the food supply chain, as much of the reason we want to reduce disease in animals (especially farm animals) is to stop humans getting ill.  Pretty much all the first principles are transferable between species, but each animal species has it's own little details, which is where doctors come in for humans and vets come in for everything else","human_ref_B":"It sounds like you were well intended, but reverse the roles and ask yourself if you, as an MD would be okay if one of your vet friends used a vet drug on their child.  Dangerous, ill advised, and probably illegal. Please refer to a veterinary professional before you try to treat your pet, because some human treatments could kill them. Not to mention differences in metabolism, drug interactions, etc.  Again, please don't try to treat your own pets. Just as you are an expert in your field, so are we.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":740.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"3iwp36","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"I just learned many lily species are deathly toxic to cats. As onions, garlic, and leeks are part of the lily family, would that also apply?","c_root_id_A":"cukal9l","c_root_id_B":"cukapl5","created_at_utc_A":1440897526,"created_at_utc_B":1440897763,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but we absolutely avoid letting our cats have anything that has onions or garlic in it, even a little. (Long story, that adore tomato sauce...) I did find this which backs up not allowing any.","human_ref_B":"YES!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":237.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"3iwp36","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"I just learned many lily species are deathly toxic to cats. As onions, garlic, and leeks are part of the lily family, would that also apply?","c_root_id_A":"cukal9l","c_root_id_B":"cukc3a6","created_at_utc_A":1440897526,"created_at_utc_B":1440900473,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but we absolutely avoid letting our cats have anything that has onions or garlic in it, even a little. (Long story, that adore tomato sauce...) I did find this which backs up not allowing any.","human_ref_B":"Onions and garlic, yes. \"Peace lilies\" though, aren't toxic, but can be irritating to the mouth.  http:\/\/toxvet.com\/give-peace-lilies-a-chance\/","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2947.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik56v5","c_root_id_B":"cik5ab1","created_at_utc_A":1404062870,"created_at_utc_B":1404063098,"score_A":4,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Somebody might, but it wouldn't be me.  You'd actually ask somebody to put their license and reputation on the line just so you can ease your apartment hunt? I hope you're not my client.","human_ref_B":"This would count as false certification, which would result in being removed from the register of veterinary surgeons (being \"struck off\" essentially) if it were ever discovered, which is highly possible in a situation where the cat quite clearly still has claws. It would however be possible for a vet to write a statement expressing the fact that declawing a cat is unnecessary and potentially detrimental to the cat etc.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":228.0,"score_ratio":7.25}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5ab1","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404063098,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":29,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This would count as false certification, which would result in being removed from the register of veterinary surgeons (being \"struck off\" essentially) if it were ever discovered, which is highly possible in a situation where the cat quite clearly still has claws. It would however be possible for a vet to write a statement expressing the fact that declawing a cat is unnecessary and potentially detrimental to the cat etc.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":304.0,"score_ratio":14.5}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d87","c_root_id_B":"cik5d7v","created_at_utc_A":1404063294,"created_at_utc_B":1404063293,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"You could try talking to some of the landlords. Especially if you have past landlords that can vouch for you and your cat. I applied for a house in college where the landlord didn't want pets. I spoke to him, gave him references, and explained that I use nail caps on my cats. He agreed with an increased deposit. No issues :) Best landlord I ever had actually.  If they aren't willing to work with you, move on. Having pets limits where you can live when you are renting but there's nothing you can do but talk to landlords and keep looking.","human_ref_B":"Interesting question. Most cases of cats being destructive in apartments I know of involves their pee, not their claws... And it's a jackass policy, encouraging an unnecessary procedure. Still, I would be wary of knowingly creating and signing a false document that implies I have done a physical exam. That's my reputation as a professional on the line. I wonder if, say one were looking for an immediate housing situation, if you could have a letter that says you're scheduled to *have* the surgery, and once you're in the door just cancel the surgery?  Perhaps to answer a question with a question, would *you* be willing to forge a document saying the same? I have to say, of all the situations where someone could forge my signature and letterhead, that's probably the one that would make me least mad, being that it is such a dumb policy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d7v","c_root_id_B":"cik5fzj","created_at_utc_A":1404063293,"created_at_utc_B":1404063465,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Interesting question. Most cases of cats being destructive in apartments I know of involves their pee, not their claws... And it's a jackass policy, encouraging an unnecessary procedure. Still, I would be wary of knowingly creating and signing a false document that implies I have done a physical exam. That's my reputation as a professional on the line. I wonder if, say one were looking for an immediate housing situation, if you could have a letter that says you're scheduled to *have* the surgery, and once you're in the door just cancel the surgery?  Perhaps to answer a question with a question, would *you* be willing to forge a document saying the same? I have to say, of all the situations where someone could forge my signature and letterhead, that's probably the one that would make me least mad, being that it is such a dumb policy.","human_ref_B":"Something to consider for next time...   Rather than put people at risk of losing their license: nail caps!  Although not all landlords would be okay with this, I have heard landlords allowing this in lieu of declawing or having a higher (or even any) pet deposit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":172.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d7v","c_root_id_B":"cik56v5","created_at_utc_A":1404063293,"created_at_utc_B":1404062870,"score_A":7,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Interesting question. Most cases of cats being destructive in apartments I know of involves their pee, not their claws... And it's a jackass policy, encouraging an unnecessary procedure. Still, I would be wary of knowingly creating and signing a false document that implies I have done a physical exam. That's my reputation as a professional on the line. I wonder if, say one were looking for an immediate housing situation, if you could have a letter that says you're scheduled to *have* the surgery, and once you're in the door just cancel the surgery?  Perhaps to answer a question with a question, would *you* be willing to forge a document saying the same? I have to say, of all the situations where someone could forge my signature and letterhead, that's probably the one that would make me least mad, being that it is such a dumb policy.","human_ref_B":"Somebody might, but it wouldn't be me.  You'd actually ask somebody to put their license and reputation on the line just so you can ease your apartment hunt? I hope you're not my client.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":423.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d7v","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404063293,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Interesting question. Most cases of cats being destructive in apartments I know of involves their pee, not their claws... And it's a jackass policy, encouraging an unnecessary procedure. Still, I would be wary of knowingly creating and signing a false document that implies I have done a physical exam. That's my reputation as a professional on the line. I wonder if, say one were looking for an immediate housing situation, if you could have a letter that says you're scheduled to *have* the surgery, and once you're in the door just cancel the surgery?  Perhaps to answer a question with a question, would *you* be willing to forge a document saying the same? I have to say, of all the situations where someone could forge my signature and letterhead, that's probably the one that would make me least mad, being that it is such a dumb policy.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":499.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d7v","c_root_id_B":"cik5ct2","created_at_utc_A":1404063293,"created_at_utc_B":1404063267,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Interesting question. Most cases of cats being destructive in apartments I know of involves their pee, not their claws... And it's a jackass policy, encouraging an unnecessary procedure. Still, I would be wary of knowingly creating and signing a false document that implies I have done a physical exam. That's my reputation as a professional on the line. I wonder if, say one were looking for an immediate housing situation, if you could have a letter that says you're scheduled to *have* the surgery, and once you're in the door just cancel the surgery?  Perhaps to answer a question with a question, would *you* be willing to forge a document saying the same? I have to say, of all the situations where someone could forge my signature and letterhead, that's probably the one that would make me least mad, being that it is such a dumb policy.","human_ref_B":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik56v5","c_root_id_B":"cik5d87","created_at_utc_A":1404062870,"created_at_utc_B":1404063294,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Somebody might, but it wouldn't be me.  You'd actually ask somebody to put their license and reputation on the line just so you can ease your apartment hunt? I hope you're not my client.","human_ref_B":"You could try talking to some of the landlords. Especially if you have past landlords that can vouch for you and your cat. I applied for a house in college where the landlord didn't want pets. I spoke to him, gave him references, and explained that I use nail caps on my cats. He agreed with an increased deposit. No issues :) Best landlord I ever had actually.  If they aren't willing to work with you, move on. Having pets limits where you can live when you are renting but there's nothing you can do but talk to landlords and keep looking.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":424.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik55rj","c_root_id_B":"cik5d87","created_at_utc_A":1404062794,"created_at_utc_B":1404063294,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","human_ref_B":"You could try talking to some of the landlords. Especially if you have past landlords that can vouch for you and your cat. I applied for a house in college where the landlord didn't want pets. I spoke to him, gave him references, and explained that I use nail caps on my cats. He agreed with an increased deposit. No issues :) Best landlord I ever had actually.  If they aren't willing to work with you, move on. Having pets limits where you can live when you are renting but there's nothing you can do but talk to landlords and keep looking.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":500.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5d87","c_root_id_B":"cik5ct2","created_at_utc_A":1404063294,"created_at_utc_B":1404063267,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You could try talking to some of the landlords. Especially if you have past landlords that can vouch for you and your cat. I applied for a house in college where the landlord didn't want pets. I spoke to him, gave him references, and explained that I use nail caps on my cats. He agreed with an increased deposit. No issues :) Best landlord I ever had actually.  If they aren't willing to work with you, move on. Having pets limits where you can live when you are renting but there's nothing you can do but talk to landlords and keep looking.","human_ref_B":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5fzj","c_root_id_B":"cik56v5","created_at_utc_A":1404063465,"created_at_utc_B":1404062870,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Something to consider for next time...   Rather than put people at risk of losing their license: nail caps!  Although not all landlords would be okay with this, I have heard landlords allowing this in lieu of declawing or having a higher (or even any) pet deposit.","human_ref_B":"Somebody might, but it wouldn't be me.  You'd actually ask somebody to put their license and reputation on the line just so you can ease your apartment hunt? I hope you're not my client.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":595.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik55rj","c_root_id_B":"cik5fzj","created_at_utc_A":1404062794,"created_at_utc_B":1404063465,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","human_ref_B":"Something to consider for next time...   Rather than put people at risk of losing their license: nail caps!  Although not all landlords would be okay with this, I have heard landlords allowing this in lieu of declawing or having a higher (or even any) pet deposit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":671.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5fzj","c_root_id_B":"cik5ct2","created_at_utc_A":1404063465,"created_at_utc_B":1404063267,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Something to consider for next time...   Rather than put people at risk of losing their license: nail caps!  Although not all landlords would be okay with this, I have heard landlords allowing this in lieu of declawing or having a higher (or even any) pet deposit.","human_ref_B":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":198.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik6l9i","c_root_id_B":"cik6rcv","created_at_utc_A":1404065921,"created_at_utc_B":1404066300,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"No.","human_ref_B":"I would absolutely not.  The situation sucks, but it's not worth putting my license at risk.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":379.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik6l9i","c_root_id_B":"cikda85","created_at_utc_A":1404065921,"created_at_utc_B":1404082188,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"No.","human_ref_B":"I wouldn't sign it no, but you can check your local city laws.  Some cities\/municipalities have made it illegal for landlords to require declawing of cats\/debarking of dogs if they allow pets.   Or, if it's not already illegal, start petitioning your town council to make it so.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16267.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik6l9i","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404065921,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"No.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3127.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik55rj","c_root_id_B":"cik6rcv","created_at_utc_A":1404062794,"created_at_utc_B":1404066300,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","human_ref_B":"I would absolutely not.  The situation sucks, but it's not worth putting my license at risk.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3506.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5ct2","c_root_id_B":"cik6rcv","created_at_utc_A":1404063267,"created_at_utc_B":1404066300,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","human_ref_B":"I would absolutely not.  The situation sucks, but it's not worth putting my license at risk.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3033.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cikda85","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404082188,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I wouldn't sign it no, but you can check your local city laws.  Some cities\/municipalities have made it illegal for landlords to require declawing of cats\/debarking of dogs if they allow pets.   Or, if it's not already illegal, start petitioning your town council to make it so.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19394.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5ct2","c_root_id_B":"cikda85","created_at_utc_A":1404063267,"created_at_utc_B":1404082188,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","human_ref_B":"I wouldn't sign it no, but you can check your local city laws.  Some cities\/municipalities have made it illegal for landlords to require declawing of cats\/debarking of dogs if they allow pets.   Or, if it's not already illegal, start petitioning your town council to make it so.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18921.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik9a63","c_root_id_B":"cikda85","created_at_utc_A":1404072512,"created_at_utc_B":1404082188,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"No. Way too easy to check, and very unethical.","human_ref_B":"I wouldn't sign it no, but you can check your local city laws.  Some cities\/municipalities have made it illegal for landlords to require declawing of cats\/debarking of dogs if they allow pets.   Or, if it's not already illegal, start petitioning your town council to make it so.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9676.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik56v5","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404062870,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Somebody might, but it wouldn't be me.  You'd actually ask somebody to put their license and reputation on the line just so you can ease your apartment hunt? I hope you're not my client.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":76.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ei5m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Vets of reddit, would you ever lie for someone who doesn't want to get their cat declawed? Hello vets of reddit!  I recently moved, and when viewing apartments and filling out applications i was surprised by how many apartments wanted a letter from my vet to confirm that my cat was declawed.  I am very much against declawing a cat, especially one like mine who has never done anything destructive with his claws.  This time around i lucked out and found a place that didn't care, but if i was ever stuck do you think i could convince a vet to lie for me?(sign a form that said my cat was declawed).  I don't understand why I should have to put my pet through an unnessecary medical procedure just to satisfy paranoid apartment complex managers.","c_root_id_A":"cik5ct2","c_root_id_B":"cik55rj","created_at_utc_A":1404063267,"created_at_utc_B":1404062794,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This is so fucked up. I only heard of Declawing a couple of years ago. It isn't even an option in my country and is classed as a mutilation under animal cruelty laws. Very glad to be the foster mum of five and owner of two cats, all with their claws.","human_ref_B":"Just curious, where were you looking for apartments?  I've never heard of this before coming from NYC.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":473.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"arcztt","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Essential Oils and Cats I've just bought a humidifier+air purifier+aromatherapy item today and was told by the store clerk that I can add in essentially oils for them. I told them I have two cats and wanted to make sure what oil I got wouldn't hurt them. They had a list and one that was okay for them they said is lavender. I said okay and bought it.  I wasn't planning on buying this item today so I didn't do my own research prior and as I'm double checking, some sites are saying lavender is bad for cats. I want to know if that's true or not, and if anyone knows of other oils that would be okay to use with cats as well, just for some options for me in the future.","c_root_id_A":"egmn0ce","c_root_id_B":"egmoypy","created_at_utc_A":1550360607,"created_at_utc_B":1550362351,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I had no idea about this! I don\u2019t infuse oils but I have wax melter; should I stop\/have any concerns?","human_ref_B":"What about scented candles?  &#x200B;","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1744.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"q79kuv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is matting like crazy to the point of being bald in certain places, and also doesn't eat well, he is 15 months old and am pretty worried  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/6dVOoJc","c_root_id_A":"hgh9njv","c_root_id_B":"hgh7a60","created_at_utc_A":1634130960,"created_at_utc_B":1634129746,"score_A":27,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If you could answer some of the questions especially regarding body weight, it may help. Long hair cats require more upkeep than shorthair.if your cat is obese (and depending on where the mats are) he may not be able to groom himself appropriately, which means you will need to help him by brushing daily, after getting the mats out.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a prevet student - you should bring your cat to the vet just to be sure it\u2019s not a serious condition","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1214.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"q79kuv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is matting like crazy to the point of being bald in certain places, and also doesn't eat well, he is 15 months old and am pretty worried  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/6dVOoJc","c_root_id_A":"hgh9njv","c_root_id_B":"hgh1cwf","created_at_utc_A":1634130960,"created_at_utc_B":1634126373,"score_A":27,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If you could answer some of the questions especially regarding body weight, it may help. Long hair cats require more upkeep than shorthair.if your cat is obese (and depending on where the mats are) he may not be able to groom himself appropriately, which means you will need to help him by brushing daily, after getting the mats out.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4587.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"q79kuv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is matting like crazy to the point of being bald in certain places, and also doesn't eat well, he is 15 months old and am pretty worried  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/6dVOoJc","c_root_id_A":"hgh1cwf","c_root_id_B":"hgh7a60","created_at_utc_A":1634126373,"created_at_utc_B":1634129746,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m a prevet student - you should bring your cat to the vet just to be sure it\u2019s not a serious condition","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3373.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"q79kuv","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat is matting like crazy to the point of being bald in certain places, and also doesn't eat well, he is 15 months old and am pretty worried  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/6dVOoJc","c_root_id_A":"hgh1cwf","c_root_id_B":"hgifi1f","created_at_utc_A":1634126373,"created_at_utc_B":1634148308,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"aside from seeing a vet you should definitely see a groomer who does cats about helping remove the matting\/future suggestions for their fur!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21935.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"owgkpk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet suggesting to ignore a possibly life-altering disease in my dog. I need a second opinion -  Species: Dog -  Age: 5 -  Sex: F -  Breed: Beagle -  Body weight: 25 lbs  -  History: Obesity, Enlarged heart,  Cherry eye and Conjunctivitis  Hi.   - Dog recently diagnosed with both enlarged heart syndrome and cherry eye by vet.  - Due to her cherry eye she caught conjunctivitis, which can lead to blindness.  - Vet said that we couldnt get the cherry eye removed because it would be dangerous given her enlarged heart.  - So, I would like a second opinion on this: If were to cut her bodyweight to a normal weight, which would hamper the severity of her enlarged heart (as spoken by my vet), would she then be able to undergo cherry eye surgery?  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"h7g70u7","c_root_id_B":"h7gfmaf","created_at_utc_A":1627924266,"created_at_utc_B":1627927990,"score_A":12,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Your best bet would be to see a cardiologist for a full work up and then they can design an anesthetic plan for your dog if they feel its possible. In the meantime your vet should have prescribed eye drops for the conjunctivitis.","human_ref_B":"The risk of doing the surgery outweighs the benefits. Cherry eye is very common and surgery is not always successful anyway. Conjunctivitis is also very common and regular eyewash with a dog safe saline solution will help prevent that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3724.0,"score_ratio":4.1666666667}
{"post_id":"owgkpk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet suggesting to ignore a possibly life-altering disease in my dog. I need a second opinion -  Species: Dog -  Age: 5 -  Sex: F -  Breed: Beagle -  Body weight: 25 lbs  -  History: Obesity, Enlarged heart,  Cherry eye and Conjunctivitis  Hi.   - Dog recently diagnosed with both enlarged heart syndrome and cherry eye by vet.  - Due to her cherry eye she caught conjunctivitis, which can lead to blindness.  - Vet said that we couldnt get the cherry eye removed because it would be dangerous given her enlarged heart.  - So, I would like a second opinion on this: If were to cut her bodyweight to a normal weight, which would hamper the severity of her enlarged heart (as spoken by my vet), would she then be able to undergo cherry eye surgery?  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"h7gfmaf","c_root_id_B":"h7g7iff","created_at_utc_A":1627927990,"created_at_utc_B":1627924476,"score_A":50,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"The risk of doing the surgery outweighs the benefits. Cherry eye is very common and surgery is not always successful anyway. Conjunctivitis is also very common and regular eyewash with a dog safe saline solution will help prevent that.","human_ref_B":"You can always talk to another vet if you're not happy with the care your dog is receiving (and you don't mind spending\/can afford to switch).   This being said, have you and your vet already discussed lubricating your dog's eye? Cherry eye occurs when the dog's third eyelid prolapses, and it causes an increase in conjunctivitis rates because the prolapsed eyelid inhibits normal lubrication.  General anesthesia can be dangerous, especially for an obese animal with a heart condition, so you shouldn't push for surgery without seriously considering why your vet turned you down.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3514.0,"score_ratio":6.25}
{"post_id":"owgkpk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet suggesting to ignore a possibly life-altering disease in my dog. I need a second opinion -  Species: Dog -  Age: 5 -  Sex: F -  Breed: Beagle -  Body weight: 25 lbs  -  History: Obesity, Enlarged heart,  Cherry eye and Conjunctivitis  Hi.   - Dog recently diagnosed with both enlarged heart syndrome and cherry eye by vet.  - Due to her cherry eye she caught conjunctivitis, which can lead to blindness.  - Vet said that we couldnt get the cherry eye removed because it would be dangerous given her enlarged heart.  - So, I would like a second opinion on this: If were to cut her bodyweight to a normal weight, which would hamper the severity of her enlarged heart (as spoken by my vet), would she then be able to undergo cherry eye surgery?  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"h7g70u7","c_root_id_B":"h7hi97n","created_at_utc_A":1627924266,"created_at_utc_B":1627945142,"score_A":12,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Your best bet would be to see a cardiologist for a full work up and then they can design an anesthetic plan for your dog if they feel its possible. In the meantime your vet should have prescribed eye drops for the conjunctivitis.","human_ref_B":"IMO, you\u2019re too worried about the cherry eye and not concerned enough about the enlarged heart, especially at her age. An enlarged heart in a 5 year old dog is concerning. 25lbs isn\u2019t that heavy for a 15\u201d beagle - is she a 15\u201d or 13\u201d?  While the eye issue is a mild concern, conjunctivitis is pretty easily remedied with eyedrops, and it\u2019s unlikely she will lose her vision if you are monitoring the situation. I\u2019d be much more worried about the heart issue.   I would see a cardiologist regarding the heart issue and look into possible treatments and supplements. You\u2019ll also want to review diet as there has been a link to dilated cardiomyopathy and diet. I lost my beagle to heart disease and I still wonder if feeding her grain-free contributed to it. We were on the waiting list to see a cardiologist when she passed. I would have paid stupid amounts of money on a pacemaker or whatever to extend her life. She was having issues with syncope the last 6 months and it was brutal to watch.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20876.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"owgkpk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet suggesting to ignore a possibly life-altering disease in my dog. I need a second opinion -  Species: Dog -  Age: 5 -  Sex: F -  Breed: Beagle -  Body weight: 25 lbs  -  History: Obesity, Enlarged heart,  Cherry eye and Conjunctivitis  Hi.   - Dog recently diagnosed with both enlarged heart syndrome and cherry eye by vet.  - Due to her cherry eye she caught conjunctivitis, which can lead to blindness.  - Vet said that we couldnt get the cherry eye removed because it would be dangerous given her enlarged heart.  - So, I would like a second opinion on this: If were to cut her bodyweight to a normal weight, which would hamper the severity of her enlarged heart (as spoken by my vet), would she then be able to undergo cherry eye surgery?  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"h7g7iff","c_root_id_B":"h7hi97n","created_at_utc_A":1627924476,"created_at_utc_B":1627945142,"score_A":8,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"You can always talk to another vet if you're not happy with the care your dog is receiving (and you don't mind spending\/can afford to switch).   This being said, have you and your vet already discussed lubricating your dog's eye? Cherry eye occurs when the dog's third eyelid prolapses, and it causes an increase in conjunctivitis rates because the prolapsed eyelid inhibits normal lubrication.  General anesthesia can be dangerous, especially for an obese animal with a heart condition, so you shouldn't push for surgery without seriously considering why your vet turned you down.","human_ref_B":"IMO, you\u2019re too worried about the cherry eye and not concerned enough about the enlarged heart, especially at her age. An enlarged heart in a 5 year old dog is concerning. 25lbs isn\u2019t that heavy for a 15\u201d beagle - is she a 15\u201d or 13\u201d?  While the eye issue is a mild concern, conjunctivitis is pretty easily remedied with eyedrops, and it\u2019s unlikely she will lose her vision if you are monitoring the situation. I\u2019d be much more worried about the heart issue.   I would see a cardiologist regarding the heart issue and look into possible treatments and supplements. You\u2019ll also want to review diet as there has been a link to dilated cardiomyopathy and diet. I lost my beagle to heart disease and I still wonder if feeding her grain-free contributed to it. We were on the waiting list to see a cardiologist when she passed. I would have paid stupid amounts of money on a pacemaker or whatever to extend her life. She was having issues with syncope the last 6 months and it was brutal to watch.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20666.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"owgkpk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Vet suggesting to ignore a possibly life-altering disease in my dog. I need a second opinion -  Species: Dog -  Age: 5 -  Sex: F -  Breed: Beagle -  Body weight: 25 lbs  -  History: Obesity, Enlarged heart,  Cherry eye and Conjunctivitis  Hi.   - Dog recently diagnosed with both enlarged heart syndrome and cherry eye by vet.  - Due to her cherry eye she caught conjunctivitis, which can lead to blindness.  - Vet said that we couldnt get the cherry eye removed because it would be dangerous given her enlarged heart.  - So, I would like a second opinion on this: If were to cut her bodyweight to a normal weight, which would hamper the severity of her enlarged heart (as spoken by my vet), would she then be able to undergo cherry eye surgery?  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"h7hdpia","c_root_id_B":"h7hi97n","created_at_utc_A":1627943024,"created_at_utc_B":1627945142,"score_A":6,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"You got the good advice about the cardiologist consult, that is what I would do.Just to clarify - is your GP talking about cutting the cherry eye out? Or just putting the gland back in the pocket?  Nowadays most people try to avoid cutting the cherry eye out because the actual gland itself produces quite a bit of tear film for the eye and removal of the gland may cause KCS or dry-eye for the patient lifelong. There are some GP practioners that can do a 'pocket placement' to get it back into place but I more commonly hear that with ophthalmologists too.","human_ref_B":"IMO, you\u2019re too worried about the cherry eye and not concerned enough about the enlarged heart, especially at her age. An enlarged heart in a 5 year old dog is concerning. 25lbs isn\u2019t that heavy for a 15\u201d beagle - is she a 15\u201d or 13\u201d?  While the eye issue is a mild concern, conjunctivitis is pretty easily remedied with eyedrops, and it\u2019s unlikely she will lose her vision if you are monitoring the situation. I\u2019d be much more worried about the heart issue.   I would see a cardiologist regarding the heart issue and look into possible treatments and supplements. You\u2019ll also want to review diet as there has been a link to dilated cardiomyopathy and diet. I lost my beagle to heart disease and I still wonder if feeding her grain-free contributed to it. We were on the waiting list to see a cardiologist when she passed. I would have paid stupid amounts of money on a pacemaker or whatever to extend her life. She was having issues with syncope the last 6 months and it was brutal to watch.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2118.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"z9tg3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My hamster died but came back to life??? I had a very weird phone call just now from my mum telling me how she thought our hamster had died. He\u2019s about a year and a half old so i was aware that they don\u2019t live long and this wouldn\u2019t have came as a shock to me  But she went on to explain that the hamster wasn\u2019t moving this morning so she tapped on the cage, after a few attempts it woke up. She picked my brother up at school later today and when she came back it was dead, she described it feeling \u2018stiff\u2019 and \u2018cold\u2019. She went to get some gloves on and a shoe box ready to bury it in the garden but as she rubbed it\u2019s chest it shot back to life and bit her. Apparently it\u2019s now running around in its cage.  This is how she explained all this to me. I don\u2019t know what the cause of this was, whether it\u2019s normal or a miracle but i\u2019m just relieved it\u2019s still alive. Anyone know the cause of this??","c_root_id_A":"iyk2vn1","c_root_id_B":"iykm02x","created_at_utc_A":1669938527,"created_at_utc_B":1669947402,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Your mom replaced the hamster","human_ref_B":"If you find your mom apparently dead tomorrow, don't wake her up and by all that's holy, don't let her bite you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8875.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"z9tg3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My hamster died but came back to life??? I had a very weird phone call just now from my mum telling me how she thought our hamster had died. He\u2019s about a year and a half old so i was aware that they don\u2019t live long and this wouldn\u2019t have came as a shock to me  But she went on to explain that the hamster wasn\u2019t moving this morning so she tapped on the cage, after a few attempts it woke up. She picked my brother up at school later today and when she came back it was dead, she described it feeling \u2018stiff\u2019 and \u2018cold\u2019. She went to get some gloves on and a shoe box ready to bury it in the garden but as she rubbed it\u2019s chest it shot back to life and bit her. Apparently it\u2019s now running around in its cage.  This is how she explained all this to me. I don\u2019t know what the cause of this was, whether it\u2019s normal or a miracle but i\u2019m just relieved it\u2019s still alive. Anyone know the cause of this??","c_root_id_A":"iyl602b","c_root_id_B":"iyk2vn1","created_at_utc_A":1669957470,"created_at_utc_B":1669938527,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Ok this is kinda funny.  Damn it Linda, put the shovel away! *bites angrily*","human_ref_B":"Your mom replaced the hamster","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18943.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"z9tg3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My hamster died but came back to life??? I had a very weird phone call just now from my mum telling me how she thought our hamster had died. He\u2019s about a year and a half old so i was aware that they don\u2019t live long and this wouldn\u2019t have came as a shock to me  But she went on to explain that the hamster wasn\u2019t moving this morning so she tapped on the cage, after a few attempts it woke up. She picked my brother up at school later today and when she came back it was dead, she described it feeling \u2018stiff\u2019 and \u2018cold\u2019. She went to get some gloves on and a shoe box ready to bury it in the garden but as she rubbed it\u2019s chest it shot back to life and bit her. Apparently it\u2019s now running around in its cage.  This is how she explained all this to me. I don\u2019t know what the cause of this was, whether it\u2019s normal or a miracle but i\u2019m just relieved it\u2019s still alive. Anyone know the cause of this??","c_root_id_A":"iylxyjq","c_root_id_B":"iyk2vn1","created_at_utc_A":1669979522,"created_at_utc_B":1669938527,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hamsters go into torpor when its cold. They appear cold, stiff with no sign of breathing so many owners assume they are dead but if paid close attention will notice their whiskers or nose twitch with slight breathing. If they are in torpor you need to wake them up immediately from the heat of your palm or chest as if they stay in this state very long is life threatening. Maybe that or he was just asleep lol.","human_ref_B":"Your mom replaced the hamster","labels":1,"seconds_difference":40995.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"z9tg3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My hamster died but came back to life??? I had a very weird phone call just now from my mum telling me how she thought our hamster had died. He\u2019s about a year and a half old so i was aware that they don\u2019t live long and this wouldn\u2019t have came as a shock to me  But she went on to explain that the hamster wasn\u2019t moving this morning so she tapped on the cage, after a few attempts it woke up. She picked my brother up at school later today and when she came back it was dead, she described it feeling \u2018stiff\u2019 and \u2018cold\u2019. She went to get some gloves on and a shoe box ready to bury it in the garden but as she rubbed it\u2019s chest it shot back to life and bit her. Apparently it\u2019s now running around in its cage.  This is how she explained all this to me. I don\u2019t know what the cause of this was, whether it\u2019s normal or a miracle but i\u2019m just relieved it\u2019s still alive. Anyone know the cause of this??","c_root_id_A":"iylq311","c_root_id_B":"iylxyjq","created_at_utc_A":1669972586,"created_at_utc_B":1669979522,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes hamsters be like that","human_ref_B":"Hamsters go into torpor when its cold. They appear cold, stiff with no sign of breathing so many owners assume they are dead but if paid close attention will notice their whiskers or nose twitch with slight breathing. If they are in torpor you need to wake them up immediately from the heat of your palm or chest as if they stay in this state very long is life threatening. Maybe that or he was just asleep lol.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6936.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"z9tg3r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My hamster died but came back to life??? I had a very weird phone call just now from my mum telling me how she thought our hamster had died. He\u2019s about a year and a half old so i was aware that they don\u2019t live long and this wouldn\u2019t have came as a shock to me  But she went on to explain that the hamster wasn\u2019t moving this morning so she tapped on the cage, after a few attempts it woke up. She picked my brother up at school later today and when she came back it was dead, she described it feeling \u2018stiff\u2019 and \u2018cold\u2019. She went to get some gloves on and a shoe box ready to bury it in the garden but as she rubbed it\u2019s chest it shot back to life and bit her. Apparently it\u2019s now running around in its cage.  This is how she explained all this to me. I don\u2019t know what the cause of this was, whether it\u2019s normal or a miracle but i\u2019m just relieved it\u2019s still alive. Anyone know the cause of this??","c_root_id_A":"iylxyjq","c_root_id_B":"iyltbok","created_at_utc_A":1669979522,"created_at_utc_B":1669975498,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Hamsters go into torpor when its cold. They appear cold, stiff with no sign of breathing so many owners assume they are dead but if paid close attention will notice their whiskers or nose twitch with slight breathing. If they are in torpor you need to wake them up immediately from the heat of your palm or chest as if they stay in this state very long is life threatening. Maybe that or he was just asleep lol.","human_ref_B":"Maybe he was just in a very deep sleep. I've had that before with one of my own. They can really sleep like they are dead ... Or just slightly too cold in the house so that he went in a state of stupor.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4024.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"qetez5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"2 Y\/O Male Cat Adopted and 4 days later hospitalized We adopted a cat 4 days ago from a shelter. The first day he was the most lovable and affectionate cat. We knew he had a stage 2 heart murmur going into it but weren\u2019t too concerned. But as the days went on its gotten worse. He was breathing heavily through his mouth, barely moving, so we brought him to the 24h animal hospital and after 3 hours we\u2019re left with an $800 bill. They put him on oxygen and did testing and xrays and told us that he will need to take furosemide and vetmedin for the rest of his life and that he has CHF. The vets at this clinic were all young and one of them just blatantly told us he has 12 months to live and left us traumatized. He\u2019s \u201cstable\u201d at home now but it appears he is still mouth breathing due to fluid build up in the lungs. Will the medications prescribed make him go into his old self again and fix the breathing over a couple days or is this just it from now on? Im so stressed as a new pet owner and just want my kitty to be okay","c_root_id_A":"hhvgi6p","c_root_id_B":"hhwctpa","created_at_utc_A":1635090869,"created_at_utc_B":1635103885,"score_A":10,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I agree, if still open mouth breathing- he needs to see a vet asap. Heart conditions can be managed, depending on severity. It can also take time to get the pet on the right dosage and combination of medications.","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry this has happened. My heart is with you and your cat. Outside of medical decisions you really should let the shelter know what is happening. They need to know what has happened with this cat so they can learn from any mistakes that were made. Im not saying it's their fault but they either failed to assess the cat appropriately or they failed to relay how severe it was to you as the adopter. Heart failure does not happen overnight. And if the cat really just had a stable heart murmur it would not have declined so severely after just 4 days. Somewhere along the line there was a misunderstanding and they need to be made aware so they can do better in the future. When you tell them they may offer a refund or help with end of life decisions and costs. Thats up to you if that feels right for you or not, but please let them know at least for learning purposes.  I will note its interesting that you mention you were told of a stage 2 heart murmur. Murmurs are usually classed into grades not stages. Organ failure is usually classed into stages. So it should of been either a grade 2 murmur or stage 2 heart failure. So I wonder if at some point he was assessed correctly but the wording was miscommunicated and the severity misunderstood.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13016.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"qetez5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"2 Y\/O Male Cat Adopted and 4 days later hospitalized We adopted a cat 4 days ago from a shelter. The first day he was the most lovable and affectionate cat. We knew he had a stage 2 heart murmur going into it but weren\u2019t too concerned. But as the days went on its gotten worse. He was breathing heavily through his mouth, barely moving, so we brought him to the 24h animal hospital and after 3 hours we\u2019re left with an $800 bill. They put him on oxygen and did testing and xrays and told us that he will need to take furosemide and vetmedin for the rest of his life and that he has CHF. The vets at this clinic were all young and one of them just blatantly told us he has 12 months to live and left us traumatized. He\u2019s \u201cstable\u201d at home now but it appears he is still mouth breathing due to fluid build up in the lungs. Will the medications prescribed make him go into his old self again and fix the breathing over a couple days or is this just it from now on? Im so stressed as a new pet owner and just want my kitty to be okay","c_root_id_A":"hhwctpa","c_root_id_B":"hhw4cl8","created_at_utc_A":1635103885,"created_at_utc_B":1635100474,"score_A":22,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry this has happened. My heart is with you and your cat. Outside of medical decisions you really should let the shelter know what is happening. They need to know what has happened with this cat so they can learn from any mistakes that were made. Im not saying it's their fault but they either failed to assess the cat appropriately or they failed to relay how severe it was to you as the adopter. Heart failure does not happen overnight. And if the cat really just had a stable heart murmur it would not have declined so severely after just 4 days. Somewhere along the line there was a misunderstanding and they need to be made aware so they can do better in the future. When you tell them they may offer a refund or help with end of life decisions and costs. Thats up to you if that feels right for you or not, but please let them know at least for learning purposes.  I will note its interesting that you mention you were told of a stage 2 heart murmur. Murmurs are usually classed into grades not stages. Organ failure is usually classed into stages. So it should of been either a grade 2 murmur or stage 2 heart failure. So I wonder if at some point he was assessed correctly but the wording was miscommunicated and the severity misunderstood.","human_ref_B":"He needs to see a cardiologist as soon as possible. Depending on where you live, you might be able to get to a 24 hour ER that has access to an on call cardiologist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3411.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"8y8hso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet says rescue cat will have to be put down if \u201clight \u201c biting for attention continues. Friend adopted rescue spayed 1-2 year old cat 3 months ago from shelter. Cat was skinny with patchy fur. Took to vet first week home. Healthy. Has gained good weight. Fur looks great. Took back to vet for nail clipping. Told vet about new behavior of \u201clight \u201c biting for attention. Vet says to say \u201cNO!\u201d and  smack  on the butt with rolled up newspaper. Says that if this behavior continues the cat should be put down as it could lead to a \u201cfull on attack.\u201d This is a household with no other pets and 3 older people. Main caretaker is 70 year old woman to whom cat has bonded. Cat pretty much ignores other 2 housemates: 75 year old man and 87 year old woman. Both like cat, give treats and affection. There has been no physical violence or rough treatment by anyone to cat in new Home.   I am  a dog owner and have no experience with abnormal cat behavior but this doesn\u2019t sound like any kind of good plan to me. Advice needed please.","c_root_id_A":"e291xev","c_root_id_B":"e290bcv","created_at_utc_A":1531398802,"created_at_utc_B":1531396767,"score_A":60,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"It is not advisable to hit (including light smacks) a cat. They will just learn fear. I agree she is likely bored and could use some toys, scratchers, and various forms of enrichment. Personally I have a cat tree multiple scratches throughout the house, some hammocks, and lots of toys. This has fixed a lot of unwanted behaviors in my cats.  Jackson galaxy is a great resource as previously stated.  If you continue to have a hard time with her, I would recommend a different vet for a behavior consultation.","human_ref_B":"The cat is bored, which makes sense. The cat is young, the owners are too old to play with it. They should have adopted an old cat, there is no shortage of them.   Gift the owners some good toys, some that work automatically, advise them to catify their house more (multiple cat trees, shelves, scratching beds), make sure the cat can see out of every window. That will make the cat less bored.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2035.0,"score_ratio":7.5}
{"post_id":"8y8hso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet says rescue cat will have to be put down if \u201clight \u201c biting for attention continues. Friend adopted rescue spayed 1-2 year old cat 3 months ago from shelter. Cat was skinny with patchy fur. Took to vet first week home. Healthy. Has gained good weight. Fur looks great. Took back to vet for nail clipping. Told vet about new behavior of \u201clight \u201c biting for attention. Vet says to say \u201cNO!\u201d and  smack  on the butt with rolled up newspaper. Says that if this behavior continues the cat should be put down as it could lead to a \u201cfull on attack.\u201d This is a household with no other pets and 3 older people. Main caretaker is 70 year old woman to whom cat has bonded. Cat pretty much ignores other 2 housemates: 75 year old man and 87 year old woman. Both like cat, give treats and affection. There has been no physical violence or rough treatment by anyone to cat in new Home.   I am  a dog owner and have no experience with abnormal cat behavior but this doesn\u2019t sound like any kind of good plan to me. Advice needed please.","c_root_id_A":"e291xev","c_root_id_B":"e28zyfw","created_at_utc_A":1531398802,"created_at_utc_B":1531396283,"score_A":60,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It is not advisable to hit (including light smacks) a cat. They will just learn fear. I agree she is likely bored and could use some toys, scratchers, and various forms of enrichment. Personally I have a cat tree multiple scratches throughout the house, some hammocks, and lots of toys. This has fixed a lot of unwanted behaviors in my cats.  Jackson galaxy is a great resource as previously stated.  If you continue to have a hard time with her, I would recommend a different vet for a behavior consultation.","human_ref_B":"You probably don\u2019t even need to smack the kitty on the bum. A loud noise may suffice, as you really just need to interrupt the behavior, not punish her for it. You can also train her to stop what she\u2019s doing and look at you (can look up how to do this online), which does the same thing.  However, your vet seems to have noticed something about the history that makes him\/her think the kitty could be dangerous to your family. I recommend seeking the advice of a veterinary behaviorist or at least another vet just in case.  Edit: changed he to she","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2519.0,"score_ratio":30.0}
{"post_id":"8y8hso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet says rescue cat will have to be put down if \u201clight \u201c biting for attention continues. Friend adopted rescue spayed 1-2 year old cat 3 months ago from shelter. Cat was skinny with patchy fur. Took to vet first week home. Healthy. Has gained good weight. Fur looks great. Took back to vet for nail clipping. Told vet about new behavior of \u201clight \u201c biting for attention. Vet says to say \u201cNO!\u201d and  smack  on the butt with rolled up newspaper. Says that if this behavior continues the cat should be put down as it could lead to a \u201cfull on attack.\u201d This is a household with no other pets and 3 older people. Main caretaker is 70 year old woman to whom cat has bonded. Cat pretty much ignores other 2 housemates: 75 year old man and 87 year old woman. Both like cat, give treats and affection. There has been no physical violence or rough treatment by anyone to cat in new Home.   I am  a dog owner and have no experience with abnormal cat behavior but this doesn\u2019t sound like any kind of good plan to me. Advice needed please.","c_root_id_A":"e290bcv","c_root_id_B":"e294jdr","created_at_utc_A":1531396767,"created_at_utc_B":1531401669,"score_A":8,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"The cat is bored, which makes sense. The cat is young, the owners are too old to play with it. They should have adopted an old cat, there is no shortage of them.   Gift the owners some good toys, some that work automatically, advise them to catify their house more (multiple cat trees, shelves, scratching beds), make sure the cat can see out of every window. That will make the cat less bored.","human_ref_B":"I agree that the hitting and jump to euthanasia is odd. My first recommendation for advice is always checking out Ohio State's indoor pet initiative. It has tons of great info on behavior and making the happiest, healthiest home for an owner and their cat.   I will add though that you need to be extra careful given the age of the caretakers of this animal. A cat bite that causes a puncture wound can lead to a serious infection if not handled properly, and in such elderly individuals that tend to have a weaker immune system this can be a very big deal. Not a call for euthanasia, just vigilance to keep both the cat and the caretakers happy!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4902.0,"score_ratio":4.375}
{"post_id":"8y8hso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet says rescue cat will have to be put down if \u201clight \u201c biting for attention continues. Friend adopted rescue spayed 1-2 year old cat 3 months ago from shelter. Cat was skinny with patchy fur. Took to vet first week home. Healthy. Has gained good weight. Fur looks great. Took back to vet for nail clipping. Told vet about new behavior of \u201clight \u201c biting for attention. Vet says to say \u201cNO!\u201d and  smack  on the butt with rolled up newspaper. Says that if this behavior continues the cat should be put down as it could lead to a \u201cfull on attack.\u201d This is a household with no other pets and 3 older people. Main caretaker is 70 year old woman to whom cat has bonded. Cat pretty much ignores other 2 housemates: 75 year old man and 87 year old woman. Both like cat, give treats and affection. There has been no physical violence or rough treatment by anyone to cat in new Home.   I am  a dog owner and have no experience with abnormal cat behavior but this doesn\u2019t sound like any kind of good plan to me. Advice needed please.","c_root_id_A":"e28zyfw","c_root_id_B":"e294jdr","created_at_utc_A":1531396283,"created_at_utc_B":1531401669,"score_A":2,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"You probably don\u2019t even need to smack the kitty on the bum. A loud noise may suffice, as you really just need to interrupt the behavior, not punish her for it. You can also train her to stop what she\u2019s doing and look at you (can look up how to do this online), which does the same thing.  However, your vet seems to have noticed something about the history that makes him\/her think the kitty could be dangerous to your family. I recommend seeking the advice of a veterinary behaviorist or at least another vet just in case.  Edit: changed he to she","human_ref_B":"I agree that the hitting and jump to euthanasia is odd. My first recommendation for advice is always checking out Ohio State's indoor pet initiative. It has tons of great info on behavior and making the happiest, healthiest home for an owner and their cat.   I will add though that you need to be extra careful given the age of the caretakers of this animal. A cat bite that causes a puncture wound can lead to a serious infection if not handled properly, and in such elderly individuals that tend to have a weaker immune system this can be a very big deal. Not a call for euthanasia, just vigilance to keep both the cat and the caretakers happy!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5386.0,"score_ratio":17.5}
{"post_id":"8y8hso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Vet says rescue cat will have to be put down if \u201clight \u201c biting for attention continues. Friend adopted rescue spayed 1-2 year old cat 3 months ago from shelter. Cat was skinny with patchy fur. Took to vet first week home. Healthy. Has gained good weight. Fur looks great. Took back to vet for nail clipping. Told vet about new behavior of \u201clight \u201c biting for attention. Vet says to say \u201cNO!\u201d and  smack  on the butt with rolled up newspaper. Says that if this behavior continues the cat should be put down as it could lead to a \u201cfull on attack.\u201d This is a household with no other pets and 3 older people. Main caretaker is 70 year old woman to whom cat has bonded. Cat pretty much ignores other 2 housemates: 75 year old man and 87 year old woman. Both like cat, give treats and affection. There has been no physical violence or rough treatment by anyone to cat in new Home.   I am  a dog owner and have no experience with abnormal cat behavior but this doesn\u2019t sound like any kind of good plan to me. Advice needed please.","c_root_id_A":"e290bcv","c_root_id_B":"e28zyfw","created_at_utc_A":1531396767,"created_at_utc_B":1531396283,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"The cat is bored, which makes sense. The cat is young, the owners are too old to play with it. They should have adopted an old cat, there is no shortage of them.   Gift the owners some good toys, some that work automatically, advise them to catify their house more (multiple cat trees, shelves, scratching beds), make sure the cat can see out of every window. That will make the cat less bored.","human_ref_B":"You probably don\u2019t even need to smack the kitty on the bum. A loud noise may suffice, as you really just need to interrupt the behavior, not punish her for it. You can also train her to stop what she\u2019s doing and look at you (can look up how to do this online), which does the same thing.  However, your vet seems to have noticed something about the history that makes him\/her think the kitty could be dangerous to your family. I recommend seeking the advice of a veterinary behaviorist or at least another vet just in case.  Edit: changed he to she","labels":1,"seconds_difference":484.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ema8jw","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat is hissing, chasing his own tail, growling, running around and freaking out. Could it be feline hyperesthesia or a seizer? Breed: white and gray  Age: 2 years Male 13 pounds He has had fleas.   I woke up this morning to my kitten hissing and attacking his own tail every time he sees it. Now he won\u2019t stop pacing around the house, hissing and growling at his own tail. If you try to touch his back he swats. He\u2019s never hissed in his life or has acted like this before. It seems like he has feline hyperesthesia or is having a bad reaction to a flea bite. I\u2019m very concerned and wondering what I should do.","c_root_id_A":"fdnyk6d","c_root_id_B":"fdnm5va","created_at_utc_A":1578595463,"created_at_utc_B":1578588686,"score_A":12,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Your cat needs to see a vet today. Given the information in this thread, both of your guesses are extremely unlikely.","human_ref_B":"Get him checked out today at the vet. He could be painful or uncomfortable from a wide range of issues, in turn causing this behaviour.  A vet should examine him to see if they can identify a cause.  If no physical cause is found they can look to possible behavioural causes.  Also good to check while you\u2019re there if he is up to date on his rabies vaccine. Good luck with him!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6777.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em53urd","c_root_id_B":"em55aon","created_at_utc_A":1556635810,"created_at_utc_B":1556636751,"score_A":17,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.","human_ref_B":"Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":941.0,"score_ratio":1.5294117647}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em4mem7","c_root_id_B":"em55aon","created_at_utc_A":1556620767,"created_at_utc_B":1556636751,"score_A":12,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Not a veterinary solution but, can you just remove your doors?","human_ref_B":"Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15984.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em4nbly","c_root_id_B":"em55aon","created_at_utc_A":1556621954,"created_at_utc_B":1556636751,"score_A":3,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?","human_ref_B":"Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14797.0,"score_ratio":8.6666666667}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em4mem7","c_root_id_B":"em53urd","created_at_utc_A":1556620767,"created_at_utc_B":1556635810,"score_A":12,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Not a veterinary solution but, can you just remove your doors?","human_ref_B":"Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15043.0,"score_ratio":1.4166666667}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em53urd","c_root_id_B":"em4nbly","created_at_utc_A":1556635810,"created_at_utc_B":1556621954,"score_A":17,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.","human_ref_B":"Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13856.0,"score_ratio":5.6666666667}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em4nbly","c_root_id_B":"em59vzr","created_at_utc_A":1556621954,"created_at_utc_B":1556639724,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?","human_ref_B":"Do you think he's begging for food? Obviously with him being diabetic, free feeding isn't an option... but what about getting a timed feeder to give him a small meal around midnight?   You would want to talk to your vet first, but it seems like maybe a small meal could fit within his diabetes-friendly diet AND help reduce the amount of harassing he does.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17770.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bj1dci","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long","c_root_id_A":"em5cdt8","c_root_id_B":"em4nbly","created_at_utc_A":1556641240,"created_at_utc_B":1556621954,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is there anything you can do to muffle the sound of him banging against the door? Maybe put up a thick blanket along the part of the door he can reach as a first step.","human_ref_B":"Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19286.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iujb1ft","c_root_id_B":"iujm807","created_at_utc_A":1667244461,"created_at_utc_B":1667248990,"score_A":30,"score_B":89,"human_ref_A":"Is there a veterinary teaching hospital you can contact with your questions. Your pup will need a lot of care.","human_ref_B":"Please give her unflavored pedialyte and if she doesnt drink it herself, get a doppler or a syringe where you can slowly give it to her.  Main reason of death from parvo is because of dehydration. Its critical that you keep her hydrated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4529.0,"score_ratio":2.9666666667}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iuj48z5","c_root_id_B":"iujm807","created_at_utc_A":1667241721,"created_at_utc_B":1667248990,"score_A":2,"score_B":89,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Please give her unflavored pedialyte and if she doesnt drink it herself, get a doppler or a syringe where you can slowly give it to her.  Main reason of death from parvo is because of dehydration. Its critical that you keep her hydrated.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7269.0,"score_ratio":44.5}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iujb1ft","c_root_id_B":"iuj48z5","created_at_utc_A":1667244461,"created_at_utc_B":1667241721,"score_A":30,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is there a veterinary teaching hospital you can contact with your questions. Your pup will need a lot of care.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2740.0,"score_ratio":15.0}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iuj48z5","c_root_id_B":"iujwu0x","created_at_utc_A":1667241721,"created_at_utc_B":1667253563,"score_A":2,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I agree that you need to see another veterinarian. There are medications to help with nausea and prescription diets that are easier to digest to support your dog's GI tract while it heals. Your dog needs veterinary care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11842.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iuklz6u","c_root_id_B":"iuj48z5","created_at_utc_A":1667265435,"created_at_utc_B":1667241721,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Food gives her nutrients that she desperately needs. The major killer of parvo is dehydration. You NEED to keep feeding her and making sure she is still getting fluids. They can not give her anything to stop the  diarrhea because that is her body flushing the virus. Her not eating is because she\u2019s feeling bad; but you need to keep offering her food.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23714.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iuj48z5","c_root_id_B":"iulvsxo","created_at_utc_A":1667241721,"created_at_utc_B":1667297488,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"She may have diarrhea now for a different cause which can be present together with the Parvo such as worm burden, Giardia or coccidia. Ask the vet if you can bring a stool sample for them to check for these things","labels":0,"seconds_difference":55767.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yikr4u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My 5 month old dog have parvovirus Hello! My 5 old month got sick from parvovirus 8 days ago we take it to veterinarian and had treatment for 4 days and they said that was the treatment and to take her home and try slowly feeding her and giving water. The problem is she don't have absolutely any appetite and we have to forcefully feed her with syringe we feed her with boiled chicken breast and white rice we make it liquid with blender. For the first days she used to puke now is puking less and less. She drinks water and wants a lot. We feed her little every hour and give her water every hour. She haven't puked for the last day but have really bad diahhria with no blood. Her diahhria very liquidly . Last night she had so much. She haven't had diahhria in the last 3 days but she barely eat too. Today we fed her and gave water and had really bad diahhria again so we just have her water without blended chicken and rice. What should we do to help her. We contacted the veterinarian and she said that she can't help her at all and it'll just take her longer to recover and she'll eventually get her appetite back. My main concern is the really bad diahhria. Should we feed her or not? What should we do? Should we gave her something for the diahhria? Thank you so much for the answer! Also sorry If I made grammar mistakes I'm not native english speaker.","c_root_id_A":"iukxeki","c_root_id_B":"iulvsxo","created_at_utc_A":1667270880,"created_at_utc_B":1667297488,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Ask your vet (or a different vet) if you can give your dog fluids subcutaneously. It is easy to do and will stave off dehydration.   Also your English is fine!","human_ref_B":"She may have diarrhea now for a different cause which can be present together with the Parvo such as worm burden, Giardia or coccidia. Ask the vet if you can bring a stool sample for them to check for these things","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26608.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"pfkb57","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.74,"history":"Kitty pooped gray and died after vet visit.. So my cousin got a little kitten from her neighbor  and it was about 14 weeks old. She told me that it was always eating, playing, being hyper, just looking and acting like a happy little kitten would. She took it to the vet to give it it's shots, which they did, but also mentioned that it had ringworm and ear mites. They did a procedure, gave it medicine, cream to put on the infected area, charged $300- something, and sent them on their way. They had ordered an Uber, but before it arived, the kitty pooped gray diarrhea. They were the very last patient of the day and weren't able to go back inside because they had closed. (Note: she has never owned a cat before.) She had thought the gray poop was due to the medication or shots she got. Once they got home, the kitten wasn't acting right. Not eating, playing, just not doing anything but laying down. That same night she ended up pooping more gray diarrhea and passed away. My cousin is suspecting the vet might have possibly poisoned it because before the vet visit,  she was perfectly fine. So did the kitten have a bad reaction to the medication, was there foul play because they were the last ones there (it was about 2 hrs after closing time)? She said she called the place back the next morning but they said there's nothing they can do about it. IS there something she can do about it, call someone,or get her money back cause they killed her kitten? Any suggestions, or some kind of answer about what might had happened would be really appreciated. Thank you!","c_root_id_A":"hb51dkw","c_root_id_B":"hb5jn98","created_at_utc_A":1630463683,"created_at_utc_B":1630473968,"score_A":93,"score_B":104,"human_ref_A":"People don't get into the vet profession to purposely kill animals. There's always the chance that she had a reaction to something but without a necropsy there's no way to tell why it happened.","human_ref_B":"As a vet who has fostered several litters of tiny kittens, I have seen panleukopenia (feline distemper) kill a kitten in under 6 hours from onset of first symptoms to death. Medication for ringworm and ear mites are very unlikely to cause any of the symptoms you've described.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10285.0,"score_ratio":1.1182795699}
{"post_id":"aqoxqx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?","c_root_id_A":"egi2o4a","c_root_id_B":"egi1ma2","created_at_utc_A":1550195878,"created_at_utc_B":1550194988,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Who'd have thought I could recycle this post so fast: >  > I generally link this thread to illustrate where we're coming from in the context of selection for function. TL;DR: Pit Bulls haven't been bred for \"Dog Aggression\" in the usual sense, they have been bred to consider and treat other dogs as prey during dog fights. On very rare occasions, that selection can misfire towards other species including humans. >  > As for a list of studies on the subject of danger, I generally link this post.","human_ref_B":"I'll add that it would make sense if \"pitbulls\" were the \"breed\" with the most bite reports - they're maybe the most common dog \"breed\" now. If there is no correlation between breed and aggression, you would expect bite reports to be proportional to the number of dogs of that breed that exist. If you actually look at it adjusted for population of the breed, iirc chow chows and chihuahuas jump to the top of the list. However, in the US, both the CDC and the AVMA have stated that categorizing bites by breed is not useful.  I don't want to get into it here (although I feel compelled to say something since no one brings this up ever), but there's definitely also a component of racism that goes into this perception. More reading on the history of pitbull discrimination and how it really stems from discrimination against PoC: http:\/\/www.nathanwinograd.com\/the-ugly-racist-underpinnings-of-pit-bull-laws\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":890.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"uowkgd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My puppy has parvo 3 days after I bought my puppy he start to puke and didn\u2019t felt good I went to the vet with him ans the told Me he has parvo.  They put him in the hospital for hospitalization for 3 days.  It been 3 days already and yesterday I called them and they said he start to play and eat and I was so happy that I\u2019m going pick him Today!  Today I called the vet and they said he doesn\u2019t feel good again and I even can\u2019t visit him. It\u2019s break my heart I don\u2019t know what to do, I felt so happy yesterday cuz he start to feel better and know this.  Should I put him for another night should I pick him up.  Thanks for the help","c_root_id_A":"i8halka","c_root_id_B":"i8hdjz1","created_at_utc_A":1652464821,"created_at_utc_B":1652466031,"score_A":49,"score_B":78,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet - You need to leave the puppy with the vet as Parvo is a very serious illness.  Taken from https:\/\/www.akc.org\/expert-advice\/health\/what-every-puppy-owner-needs-to-know-about-parvo-in-puppies\/  Parvo is a potentially fatal disease. The survival rate of dogs treated by a veterinarian is 68 to 92 percent, and most puppies that survive the first three-to-four days make a complete recovery. Recovery times vary depending on the severity of the case, but it usually takes approximately one week for puppies to recover from parvo.  You should definitely leave your puppy in the hands of professionals for his\/her very best chance at surviving Parvo. You should read that link so you fully understand what Parvo is, if you have not already done research. I wish you and your puppy all the luck in the world, even the loss of a pet so quickly is devastating so I hope he is doing better very soon.","human_ref_B":"Sometimes pets will have their ups and downs while in hospital. I recommend that you put your trust in the vets who are treating him and follow their advice, and if they think it's too early for him to go home then it's likely true.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1210.0,"score_ratio":1.5918367347}
{"post_id":"uowkgd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My puppy has parvo 3 days after I bought my puppy he start to puke and didn\u2019t felt good I went to the vet with him ans the told Me he has parvo.  They put him in the hospital for hospitalization for 3 days.  It been 3 days already and yesterday I called them and they said he start to play and eat and I was so happy that I\u2019m going pick him Today!  Today I called the vet and they said he doesn\u2019t feel good again and I even can\u2019t visit him. It\u2019s break my heart I don\u2019t know what to do, I felt so happy yesterday cuz he start to feel better and know this.  Should I put him for another night should I pick him up.  Thanks for the help","c_root_id_A":"i8hdjz1","c_root_id_B":"i8h3wlq","created_at_utc_A":1652466031,"created_at_utc_B":1652462134,"score_A":78,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Sometimes pets will have their ups and downs while in hospital. I recommend that you put your trust in the vets who are treating him and follow their advice, and if they think it's too early for him to go home then it's likely true.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3897.0,"score_ratio":15.6}
{"post_id":"uowkgd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My puppy has parvo 3 days after I bought my puppy he start to puke and didn\u2019t felt good I went to the vet with him ans the told Me he has parvo.  They put him in the hospital for hospitalization for 3 days.  It been 3 days already and yesterday I called them and they said he start to play and eat and I was so happy that I\u2019m going pick him Today!  Today I called the vet and they said he doesn\u2019t feel good again and I even can\u2019t visit him. It\u2019s break my heart I don\u2019t know what to do, I felt so happy yesterday cuz he start to feel better and know this.  Should I put him for another night should I pick him up.  Thanks for the help","c_root_id_A":"i8halka","c_root_id_B":"i8h3wlq","created_at_utc_A":1652464821,"created_at_utc_B":1652462134,"score_A":49,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet - You need to leave the puppy with the vet as Parvo is a very serious illness.  Taken from https:\/\/www.akc.org\/expert-advice\/health\/what-every-puppy-owner-needs-to-know-about-parvo-in-puppies\/  Parvo is a potentially fatal disease. The survival rate of dogs treated by a veterinarian is 68 to 92 percent, and most puppies that survive the first three-to-four days make a complete recovery. Recovery times vary depending on the severity of the case, but it usually takes approximately one week for puppies to recover from parvo.  You should definitely leave your puppy in the hands of professionals for his\/her very best chance at surviving Parvo. You should read that link so you fully understand what Parvo is, if you have not already done research. I wish you and your puppy all the luck in the world, even the loss of a pet so quickly is devastating so I hope he is doing better very soon.","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2687.0,"score_ratio":9.8}
{"post_id":"uowkgd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My puppy has parvo 3 days after I bought my puppy he start to puke and didn\u2019t felt good I went to the vet with him ans the told Me he has parvo.  They put him in the hospital for hospitalization for 3 days.  It been 3 days already and yesterday I called them and they said he start to play and eat and I was so happy that I\u2019m going pick him Today!  Today I called the vet and they said he doesn\u2019t feel good again and I even can\u2019t visit him. It\u2019s break my heart I don\u2019t know what to do, I felt so happy yesterday cuz he start to feel better and know this.  Should I put him for another night should I pick him up.  Thanks for the help","c_root_id_A":"i8hdz7p","c_root_id_B":"i8h3wlq","created_at_utc_A":1652466203,"created_at_utc_B":1652462134,"score_A":20,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m not a vet but it is best they stay with the vet, they\u2019ll call you if there\u2019s any major changes","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4069.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"uowkgd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My puppy has parvo 3 days after I bought my puppy he start to puke and didn\u2019t felt good I went to the vet with him ans the told Me he has parvo.  They put him in the hospital for hospitalization for 3 days.  It been 3 days already and yesterday I called them and they said he start to play and eat and I was so happy that I\u2019m going pick him Today!  Today I called the vet and they said he doesn\u2019t feel good again and I even can\u2019t visit him. It\u2019s break my heart I don\u2019t know what to do, I felt so happy yesterday cuz he start to feel better and know this.  Should I put him for another night should I pick him up.  Thanks for the help","c_root_id_A":"i8hgt7g","c_root_id_B":"i8h3wlq","created_at_utc_A":1652467379,"created_at_utc_B":1652462134,"score_A":13,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Ask the treating vet for their best advice on what to do for your puppy. They\u2019re in the best position to know. I\u2019m so sorry he is sick\u2014RVT","human_ref_B":"We see you have created a post with the potential topic of Parvovirus. While waiting on an answer, we suggest you look at the following resources:  Questions about the Parvovirus vaccination series can be seen in our FAQ  Information about the disease and treatment options (including experimental)  The Tl;Dr is that we cannot directly treat parvovirus, instead we support the body as it fights the infection. Dogs, especially puppies, dehydrate very quickly due to the combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and lack of appetite. Survival rates are better with hospitalization. Home treatment with subQ fluid administration is cheaper but the survival rate is not as good.   For information on cleaning  The Tl;Dr is that *bleach* (not color-safe version) is the primary household grade cleaning agent that kills parvovirus. However, it gets inactivated by organic material and does not penetrate well. Veterinary grade cleaning agents such as *Trifectant*, *Rescue*, or *Virkon* tend to do better. It is recommended that un- or under- vaccinated dogs not be allowed in the contaminated househould for a period of at least 1 year. Talk to your vet about how long parvovirus tends to last in your climate.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5245.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"9arq6b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I am going to be taking a cat from a house that has a bed bug infestation, into a house that does not. What is the best way to prevent the bed bugs from coming with the cat? &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e4xytqq","c_root_id_B":"e4xvczi","created_at_utc_A":1535409467,"created_at_utc_B":1535406060,"score_A":13,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I would be more worried if you go into the house what could be on your clothes\/shoes.  Best practice is to dry your clothes on the hottest setting for an hr and a half then wash and dry them again.  spray your shoes with rubbing alcohol, try not to bring the carrier in to you home.  The dog wash station is a great idea as well.  I know all of that may be traumatic for the cat, but it may be a necessary evil.","human_ref_B":"Bed bugs don't live on animals the way fleas and ticks do; if you bring an outside carrier that hasnt been in the house with the bed bugs, dont bring any of the bedding or anything from the house that can't be washed, you should be fine. If you do have to bring any bedding, throw it in the dryer for a bit - heat kills them.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3407.0,"score_ratio":1.1818181818}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3luox5","c_root_id_B":"i3nx3fp","created_at_utc_A":1649239175,"created_at_utc_B":1649272155,"score_A":21,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet but am a registered vet nurse in my country. I am going to guess you have already checked but there are no emergancy vet centres still open during lockdown where you are? I would be contacting your government or covid response lines for any information regarding this. Your concerns fit with the symptoms you are noting and could be serious. I pray there is a vet somewhere near you that can help asap.","human_ref_B":"This person is in lockdown in Shanghai, people are finding it hard to get fresh food and water delivered because they cannot leave their apartments. The chances of them being able to go out to see a vet in person are close to zero.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":32980.0,"score_ratio":2.1904761905}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3nx3fp","c_root_id_B":"i3ly9e1","created_at_utc_A":1649272155,"created_at_utc_B":1649241911,"score_A":46,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"This person is in lockdown in Shanghai, people are finding it hard to get fresh food and water delivered because they cannot leave their apartments. The chances of them being able to go out to see a vet in person are close to zero.","human_ref_B":"I would suggest calling some vets that are just outside your area of lockdown and see if they have any advice\/recommendations for you","labels":1,"seconds_difference":30244.0,"score_ratio":2.1904761905}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3m8h6w","c_root_id_B":"i3nx3fp","created_at_utc_A":1649248122,"created_at_utc_B":1649272155,"score_A":22,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"A seed of that size can cause a blockage in a dog that small.  He needs to see a vet.","human_ref_B":"This person is in lockdown in Shanghai, people are finding it hard to get fresh food and water delivered because they cannot leave their apartments. The chances of them being able to go out to see a vet in person are close to zero.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24033.0,"score_ratio":2.0909090909}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3nx3fp","c_root_id_B":"i3m2l1q","created_at_utc_A":1649272155,"created_at_utc_B":1649244795,"score_A":46,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"This person is in lockdown in Shanghai, people are finding it hard to get fresh food and water delivered because they cannot leave their apartments. The chances of them being able to go out to see a vet in person are close to zero.","human_ref_B":"I think for emergency cases you can go out. Call a vet or better ER service to ask them to provide such a document for you. I\u2019m sure they\u2019ll help. This pup needs help asap. Pooping blood is a bad sign.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27360.0,"score_ratio":4.1818181818}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3luox5","c_root_id_B":"i3m8h6w","created_at_utc_A":1649239175,"created_at_utc_B":1649248122,"score_A":21,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet but am a registered vet nurse in my country. I am going to guess you have already checked but there are no emergancy vet centres still open during lockdown where you are? I would be contacting your government or covid response lines for any information regarding this. Your concerns fit with the symptoms you are noting and could be serious. I pray there is a vet somewhere near you that can help asap.","human_ref_B":"A seed of that size can cause a blockage in a dog that small.  He needs to see a vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8947.0,"score_ratio":1.0476190476}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3ly9e1","c_root_id_B":"i3m8h6w","created_at_utc_A":1649241911,"created_at_utc_B":1649248122,"score_A":21,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I would suggest calling some vets that are just outside your area of lockdown and see if they have any advice\/recommendations for you","human_ref_B":"A seed of that size can cause a blockage in a dog that small.  He needs to see a vet.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6211.0,"score_ratio":1.0476190476}
{"post_id":"txh6hx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm stuck in lockdown - and my dog ate a seed he's having trouble passing Hello all. My dog ate a medium-sized longan seed roughly three days ago. He cannot keep down any food and is rather lethargic, though there are no bloating or other signs of pain. He's been vomiting all the food that we've given him over the past 12 hours and cannot hold down anything but water. We're in Shanghai, which is currently under the strictest lockdown in the world and there is no possible way we can get him to a vet.  Is there anything at all that I can do at home to help him with passing the seed? Any oils, foods, etc. that could lubricate it? We're very afraid that this could turn into a full intestinal blockage soon. There's very little chance we can get him in front of a vet, so any advice at all would be appreciated. Thank you.  EDIT:   He's a six-month-old pomeranian puppy. I don't know how much he weighs, but he's quite light and small. He has no medical history besides pooping blood for about three days roughly one month ago.","c_root_id_A":"i3m8h6w","c_root_id_B":"i3m2l1q","created_at_utc_A":1649248122,"created_at_utc_B":1649244795,"score_A":22,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"A seed of that size can cause a blockage in a dog that small.  He needs to see a vet.","human_ref_B":"I think for emergency cases you can go out. Call a vet or better ER service to ask them to provide such a document for you. I\u2019m sure they\u2019ll help. This pup needs help asap. Pooping blood is a bad sign.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3327.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"rhyign","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Congestive Heart Failure - When do we say goodbye Congestive Heart Failure - When do we say goodbye?  Our 11 year old shepherd mix has CHF. He\u2019s been doing great, but this last week he collapses every day multiple times a day. After he collapses he\u2019s tired, but later he has lots of smiles and tail waggles.   We don\u2019t want to put him down, but if he\u2019s in pain or scared I\u2019ll know it\u2019s the right choice.   Any advice for our family? We\u2019re pretty tired and devastated.","c_root_id_A":"hotltab","c_root_id_B":"hotmiwu","created_at_utc_A":1639684795,"created_at_utc_B":1639685076,"score_A":12,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"A quality of life scale (I like this one) can be helpful with end-of-life decisions.  You could also meet with a cardiologist to ensure there are no other options to improve management of the disease (with the goal of reducing or eliminating these collapsing events). Your vet should be able to go over those options with you.","human_ref_B":"We recommend the HHHHHMM Quality of Life Scale in this sub. It is in the FAQ, but here is a link to save you some clicks. https:\/\/vetsocialwork.utk.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Quality-of-Life.pdf","labels":0,"seconds_difference":281.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ctgafg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Studies on delaying spaying and neutering? I recently adopted a stray female dog, and was advised by my vet that we should delay spaying her until after her first or second heat.  She indicated that some recent studies had shown there to be some health benefits found in delaying spaying and neutering, although I didn't press further.  She just completed her first heat, what has been a rather frustrating experience (wrestling a hyperactive puppy into diapers multiple times a day, being able to fully socialize her in the dog park with potentially unaltered males, etc.).  Can anyone link me to the studies showing this, especially if they happen to be in an open access journal?  I'd like to better understand the benefits and drawbacks, and I figure going back to the original published research might help.  I figure then I'll be able to look at the methodology (RCT? Cohort study?) , sample size, figure out absolute vs relative risk, number needed to treat, etc.  Also, am I mistaken that previous thought was that early spaying and neutering had health benefits?  How are those supposed benefits of early spaying\/neutering balanced against the supposed benefits of later spaying\/neutering?  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"exl0sc3","c_root_id_B":"exkrm93","created_at_utc_A":1566403471,"created_at_utc_B":1566397326,"score_A":72,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Great question!  In large and giant breed dogs (adult weight of 40kg+) it is sometimes advised to delay sterilisation until after skeletal maturity.  This is because of the way that some of the sex hormones interacts with growth hormone and it may result in them growing too tall, which may predispose them to joint issues.  In small and medium breed dogs the effect isn't as significant.  Let's start by defining a \"spay\" as an ovariohysterectomy, or a surgery where the uterus and ovaries are removed completely.  Pre-pubertal spaying is most commonly advised due to the fact that it decreases the risk of beast cancer. \"Mammary tumors are more common in female dogs that are either not spayed or were spayed after 2 years of age. The risk of a dog developing a mammary tumor is 0.5% if spayed before their first heat (approximately 6 months of age), 8% after their first heat, and 26% after their second heat. Cats spayed before 6 months of age have a 7-times reduced risk of developing mammary cancer and spaying at any age reduces the risk of mammary tumors by 40% to 60% in cats.\" (https:\/\/www.acvs.org\/small-animal-es\/mammary tumors)  However everything has advantages and disadvantages.  Early spaying will greatly reduce the risk of mammary cancer.  Spaying at any point in the pet's lifetime will prevent uterine, ovarian and vaginal cancer, and will prevent pyometra.  Studies have found that spaying will mildly increase things like hip dysplasia, cranial cruciate disease, some cancers including lymphoma and mast cell tumour.  It moderately increases the longevity of the pet and it is linked to urinary sphincter incompetence. (https:\/\/files.brief.vet\/migration\/article\/30161\/amo_age-of-neutering-in-large--giant-breed-dogs-30161-article.pdf)  In my opinion, if you do not plan to breed with a pet it should be sterilised. Like you said it's messy to deal the nappies when they are in heat and trying to keep a pup away from intact male dogs.  The other big advantage is decreased risk of mammary cancer and increased life expectancy.  The disadvantages like obesity and urinary incontinence are easily prevented and treated respectively.  These disadvantages do not validate the increased risk of mammary cancer and the trouble heat behaviour causes and elicits in other dogs in my opinion.  Younger dogs tolerate anaesthesia much better and are less likely to have complications than middle aged or older dogs.  Once a dog develops pyometra she also becomes very unstable and anaesthesia may be life threatening in severe cases.  The reason I focus so much on the mammary cancer vs the increased risk of other cancers like lymphoma and mast cell is because mammary cancer has been proven to have a hormonal influence and has been proven to be less prevalent in spayed dogs.  Lymphoma and mast cell tumour are not hormonally influenced cancers, and the increased risk may be due to the fact that spayed dogs live longer, and not as a direct result of a spay.  In the end you are the person responsible for your pets' health and you have to make the decision that you see fit.  At the same time it is also your responsibility to make sure that the decisions that you make are well informed, and find out more information.  Thanks for asking!","human_ref_B":"Your vet gave you good and shockingly uncommon advice.  Allowing any animal to reach sexual maturity allows for full hormonal development, which in turn affects cognitive function, closing of growth plates on the joints, and expression of secondary sexual characteristics.   Only in the US is there such an obsession with early altering of immature animals, which is used as litter control in place of the responsible actions you've undertaken.  The admonitions of all possible health risks for not spaying\/neutering early are exaggerated and treated as canon.  Granted, there are very small risks... just as there are small risks in altering at all.   Ask your general practitioner what her\/his opinion is on human development post-hysterectomy on a five-year-old girl with no hormone replacement afterwards.  We're all mammals, the effects are just as dire.   Cue angry legions quoting American dogma now....","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6145.0,"score_ratio":2.4827586207}
{"post_id":"ctgafg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Studies on delaying spaying and neutering? I recently adopted a stray female dog, and was advised by my vet that we should delay spaying her until after her first or second heat.  She indicated that some recent studies had shown there to be some health benefits found in delaying spaying and neutering, although I didn't press further.  She just completed her first heat, what has been a rather frustrating experience (wrestling a hyperactive puppy into diapers multiple times a day, being able to fully socialize her in the dog park with potentially unaltered males, etc.).  Can anyone link me to the studies showing this, especially if they happen to be in an open access journal?  I'd like to better understand the benefits and drawbacks, and I figure going back to the original published research might help.  I figure then I'll be able to look at the methodology (RCT? Cohort study?) , sample size, figure out absolute vs relative risk, number needed to treat, etc.  Also, am I mistaken that previous thought was that early spaying and neutering had health benefits?  How are those supposed benefits of early spaying\/neutering balanced against the supposed benefits of later spaying\/neutering?  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"exl0kcm","c_root_id_B":"exl0sc3","created_at_utc_A":1566403326,"created_at_utc_B":1566403471,"score_A":2,"score_B":72,"human_ref_A":"Do you mean this? https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0055937","human_ref_B":"Great question!  In large and giant breed dogs (adult weight of 40kg+) it is sometimes advised to delay sterilisation until after skeletal maturity.  This is because of the way that some of the sex hormones interacts with growth hormone and it may result in them growing too tall, which may predispose them to joint issues.  In small and medium breed dogs the effect isn't as significant.  Let's start by defining a \"spay\" as an ovariohysterectomy, or a surgery where the uterus and ovaries are removed completely.  Pre-pubertal spaying is most commonly advised due to the fact that it decreases the risk of beast cancer. \"Mammary tumors are more common in female dogs that are either not spayed or were spayed after 2 years of age. The risk of a dog developing a mammary tumor is 0.5% if spayed before their first heat (approximately 6 months of age), 8% after their first heat, and 26% after their second heat. Cats spayed before 6 months of age have a 7-times reduced risk of developing mammary cancer and spaying at any age reduces the risk of mammary tumors by 40% to 60% in cats.\" (https:\/\/www.acvs.org\/small-animal-es\/mammary tumors)  However everything has advantages and disadvantages.  Early spaying will greatly reduce the risk of mammary cancer.  Spaying at any point in the pet's lifetime will prevent uterine, ovarian and vaginal cancer, and will prevent pyometra.  Studies have found that spaying will mildly increase things like hip dysplasia, cranial cruciate disease, some cancers including lymphoma and mast cell tumour.  It moderately increases the longevity of the pet and it is linked to urinary sphincter incompetence. (https:\/\/files.brief.vet\/migration\/article\/30161\/amo_age-of-neutering-in-large--giant-breed-dogs-30161-article.pdf)  In my opinion, if you do not plan to breed with a pet it should be sterilised. Like you said it's messy to deal the nappies when they are in heat and trying to keep a pup away from intact male dogs.  The other big advantage is decreased risk of mammary cancer and increased life expectancy.  The disadvantages like obesity and urinary incontinence are easily prevented and treated respectively.  These disadvantages do not validate the increased risk of mammary cancer and the trouble heat behaviour causes and elicits in other dogs in my opinion.  Younger dogs tolerate anaesthesia much better and are less likely to have complications than middle aged or older dogs.  Once a dog develops pyometra she also becomes very unstable and anaesthesia may be life threatening in severe cases.  The reason I focus so much on the mammary cancer vs the increased risk of other cancers like lymphoma and mast cell is because mammary cancer has been proven to have a hormonal influence and has been proven to be less prevalent in spayed dogs.  Lymphoma and mast cell tumour are not hormonally influenced cancers, and the increased risk may be due to the fact that spayed dogs live longer, and not as a direct result of a spay.  In the end you are the person responsible for your pets' health and you have to make the decision that you see fit.  At the same time it is also your responsibility to make sure that the decisions that you make are well informed, and find out more information.  Thanks for asking!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":145.0,"score_ratio":36.0}
{"post_id":"ctgafg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Studies on delaying spaying and neutering? I recently adopted a stray female dog, and was advised by my vet that we should delay spaying her until after her first or second heat.  She indicated that some recent studies had shown there to be some health benefits found in delaying spaying and neutering, although I didn't press further.  She just completed her first heat, what has been a rather frustrating experience (wrestling a hyperactive puppy into diapers multiple times a day, being able to fully socialize her in the dog park with potentially unaltered males, etc.).  Can anyone link me to the studies showing this, especially if they happen to be in an open access journal?  I'd like to better understand the benefits and drawbacks, and I figure going back to the original published research might help.  I figure then I'll be able to look at the methodology (RCT? Cohort study?) , sample size, figure out absolute vs relative risk, number needed to treat, etc.  Also, am I mistaken that previous thought was that early spaying and neutering had health benefits?  How are those supposed benefits of early spaying\/neutering balanced against the supposed benefits of later spaying\/neutering?  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"exm2fyn","c_root_id_B":"exl0kcm","created_at_utc_A":1566423318,"created_at_utc_B":1566403326,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I work in animal rescue, and we most certainly advocate for early spaying and neutering but that\u2019s just because of the horrible consequences of the things that I see on a daily basis.","human_ref_B":"Do you mean this? https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0055937","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19992.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"d9br7i","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What behavioral changes occur when you spay or neuter your dog? Shiba inu 1 year old   In Norway it is illegal unless it's for medical reasons. We never neutered my dogs growing up.    I am living in America. I am told by vets I should do it to prevent certain diseases. I understand this reason and this why I am considering it.  I am more concerned if any behavioral changes will occur? My dog can be quite passive about certain noises will it worsen with out testosterone? They say neutering makes aggressive dogs more passive? What will happens to dogs that are already passive?   When my neighbors drag the trash down their drive way during pick up day. This makes him cry and cower.  I would not want him to get worse.","c_root_id_A":"f1ghr9c","c_root_id_B":"f1gapkh","created_at_utc_A":1569467549,"created_at_utc_B":1569463395,"score_A":39,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Not many to none. Difference is bigger in cats. The problems you have with dog behaviour, got nothing to do with hormones. Neutering helps if your dog keeps marking every corner inside the house and calm down the humping. My inlaws have a dog which would hump bed until he\u2019d start bleeding, pee on it and every corner, it was horrible. Then couple years ago he started having issues and ended up with enlarged prostate, only options were either medicate until the end or neuter. He\u2019s 10 right now and everyone is surprised, he wants to play all the time, is even bigger cuddle bug. If you have female dog and don\u2019t breed- there is absolutely no reason not to spay. Risks of getting sick and having to go under anaesthesia at older age are much higher than just getting it done when they\u2019re younger.","human_ref_B":"There have been quite a few behavioural studies done on dogs pre and post- neuter in the past decade, with many variables tested such as aggression, food intake, and activity level. Take this one done by Heidenberger and Unshelm. \"Changes of behaviour following neutering depend on many influencing factors. Above all effective obedience training, but also the family situation of the owner, time factors, conditions of keeping and contact with other dogs have different impacts on the control of the individual behavioural problems.\" (Heidenberger and Unshelm, 1990).  He might just be a generally nervous dog.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4154.0,"score_ratio":9.75}
{"post_id":"rxdnkg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"I possibly have COVID. What\u2019s the next best course of action for my pets? Took a rapid antigen test today with my housemates and it came out negative but I do have a cold and a headache. Also 2 of my roommates tested positive.   As of now I\u2019m assuming both my partner and I are COVID positive.   Right now, potentially 4 out of the 5 people in our household has COVID.   We have 2 cats and 2 dogs, and I\u2019ve read somewhere that they can get COVID too.   Should I relocate them? or would it be possible for me to take care of them even if I\u2019m COVID positive?","c_root_id_A":"hrhq8ok","c_root_id_B":"hrid9e2","created_at_utc_A":1641478072,"created_at_utc_B":1641487171,"score_A":9,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet, but when my mom had covid about a year ago, her doctor told her to thoroughly wash her hands before touching her pets and to wear a mask around them. Not sure how great this is advice wise (especially a year later), just figured I'd throw it out there since no one else had responded yet. Feel better soon!","human_ref_B":"This post inspired me to do a brief literature search. I skimmed 6 or 7 papers from 2020 or 2021, so I don't know how relevant this would be to omicron. But essentially it has been demonstrated that the domestic dog and cat can get the virus from a human (cats more susceptible) and will sero-convert (so, have an immune response to it that has prevented re-infection) without showing any symptoms in either species. Though the cats have a long period of oral and nasal shedding of virus, the dogs did not appear to shed virus, and there is no *current* evidence of dogs nor cats having a significant role in passing the virus back to humans.  So I'd say, if you are positive or think you are, mask up before snuggling with your pet. Although it is unlikely to make them clinically ill, they could still get it. I hope you feel better soon!   Edit: Sources https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/32994343\/ https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC7911697\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/34125647\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/32766998\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/32408337\/ https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC7503431\/","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9099.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"43p2mo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm a wreck right now with my cat. He's still having an allergic reaction and my parents won't allow me to take him to the vet. Pleas, please let me know if I'm asking for too much or if my parents are being irresponsible.  My family adopted a cat when I was 7. I'm 20 now, and while I have little bit of money I don't have much. I have school and stuff to pay for.  My cat recently got an antibiotic shot (really busy and I'm not gonna type everything out now but he's had a few health issues lately) and is having an allergic reaction to it. His face is so swollen that his eyes are only half open. I gave him Benadryl yesterday and the swelling went back to normal, but it started back up again today and now he's salivating because he either can't swallow or it hurts too much for him to do so.  I begged and begged for my parents to allow me to take him to the vet and we got into a huge fight. I couldn't administer the Benadryl when he couldn't even swallow. I asked my mom how we could have so much money (my dad makes $500K USD a year) and we can't even take care of our pet (because it's a money thing apparently. They don't want to spend money on a cat. They won't even vaccinate him and wouldn't even take him to the vet til recently even when he had obvious severe hyperthyroidism). And predictably, she went off on me.  I don't know what to do. I'm here at school on the verge of a nervous breakdown because I'm afraid my cat is going to stop breathing and I can't do anything about it. I just wanted to know, do vets have payment plans or anything? And am I overreacting\/being spoiled expecting them to pay for our pet when he's sick?","c_root_id_A":"czjsvec","c_root_id_B":"czjsoet","created_at_utc_A":1454343142,"created_at_utc_B":1454342843,"score_A":46,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"You're correct, the cat needs immediate medical attention.  This is actually beyond being irresponsible - this is criminal neglect.","human_ref_B":"You're not overreacting.  It sounds like your parents really don't give a shit about the cat and think of it as a pest.  If your family makes that much money, it's not about the money.    Vets in my experience will point you to a credit payment plan.  You're much better off getting a real credit card that will have a lower interest rate and the no interest period.  I can't make that decision for you.  It sounds like your cat needs some help though...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":299.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"43p2mo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"I'm a wreck right now with my cat. He's still having an allergic reaction and my parents won't allow me to take him to the vet. Pleas, please let me know if I'm asking for too much or if my parents are being irresponsible.  My family adopted a cat when I was 7. I'm 20 now, and while I have little bit of money I don't have much. I have school and stuff to pay for.  My cat recently got an antibiotic shot (really busy and I'm not gonna type everything out now but he's had a few health issues lately) and is having an allergic reaction to it. His face is so swollen that his eyes are only half open. I gave him Benadryl yesterday and the swelling went back to normal, but it started back up again today and now he's salivating because he either can't swallow or it hurts too much for him to do so.  I begged and begged for my parents to allow me to take him to the vet and we got into a huge fight. I couldn't administer the Benadryl when he couldn't even swallow. I asked my mom how we could have so much money (my dad makes $500K USD a year) and we can't even take care of our pet (because it's a money thing apparently. They don't want to spend money on a cat. They won't even vaccinate him and wouldn't even take him to the vet til recently even when he had obvious severe hyperthyroidism). And predictably, she went off on me.  I don't know what to do. I'm here at school on the verge of a nervous breakdown because I'm afraid my cat is going to stop breathing and I can't do anything about it. I just wanted to know, do vets have payment plans or anything? And am I overreacting\/being spoiled expecting them to pay for our pet when he's sick?","c_root_id_A":"czk3ylx","c_root_id_B":"czkd612","created_at_utc_A":1454358806,"created_at_utc_B":1454372453,"score_A":4,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Care credit is indeed the way to go. If you can get *any* anti-histamine into your cat, that should help, but that's also potentially risky as some can cross the blood-brain barrier. I'd say at least call your local vet, ask which anti-allergy medications you can give safely. If you have a way to grind it up, you can mix it with wet food too. (I have a small marble mortar & Pestle set I got for like 10 bucks at a discount store. It's proven useful!)  This is from recent experiences with a cat who had some allergies for a prolonged period, but I am not a vet, I lurk here mostly to increase my personal knowledge.","human_ref_B":"A little late to the game, but if you take your cat back to the vet he got the antibiotic shot from, they may cover the after care. In any case, give them a call asap. Anaphylaxis can be fatal.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13647.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz0u4fk","c_root_id_B":"iz2q76q","created_at_utc_A":1670260723,"created_at_utc_B":1670288242,"score_A":70,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"Please take her to the vet! THC is toxic to dogs!","human_ref_B":"Good on you for being the owner who actually admits it. I see it all the time at the ER I work for and a very small fraction of people actually admit to it. We\u2019re not calling the police on you, we\u2019re just trying to determine the best way to treat what\u2019s going on.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27519.0,"score_ratio":1.0428571429}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz2q76q","c_root_id_B":"iz0w76h","created_at_utc_A":1670288242,"created_at_utc_B":1670261530,"score_A":73,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"Good on you for being the owner who actually admits it. I see it all the time at the ER I work for and a very small fraction of people actually admit to it. We\u2019re not calling the police on you, we\u2019re just trying to determine the best way to treat what\u2019s going on.","human_ref_B":"Happened to my 2 month old puppy. Took to the vet. They said to let her sleep it off. She was having seizure like symptoms. It was terrifying. Take to vet just to be sure!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26712.0,"score_ratio":1.1230769231}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz0vq4f","c_root_id_B":"iz2q76q","created_at_utc_A":1670261346,"created_at_utc_B":1670288242,"score_A":13,"score_B":73,"human_ref_A":"Call pet poison helpline or aspca poison control and follow their instructions.","human_ref_B":"Good on you for being the owner who actually admits it. I see it all the time at the ER I work for and a very small fraction of people actually admit to it. We\u2019re not calling the police on you, we\u2019re just trying to determine the best way to treat what\u2019s going on.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26896.0,"score_ratio":5.6153846154}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz2q76q","c_root_id_B":"iz1olh1","created_at_utc_A":1670288242,"created_at_utc_B":1670272409,"score_A":73,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Good on you for being the owner who actually admits it. I see it all the time at the ER I work for and a very small fraction of people actually admit to it. We\u2019re not calling the police on you, we\u2019re just trying to determine the best way to treat what\u2019s going on.","human_ref_B":"I'm glad you took your pup to the vet. It low-key erks me when people post on here about their animal ingesting something toxic, and they say I can't take them to the vet! I just wanna say \"well you have to, or they will probably die!\" Jeez. Anyway, I'm glad they are doing okay.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15833.0,"score_ratio":5.2142857143}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz2q76q","c_root_id_B":"iz2k0uk","created_at_utc_A":1670288242,"created_at_utc_B":1670285452,"score_A":73,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Good on you for being the owner who actually admits it. I see it all the time at the ER I work for and a very small fraction of people actually admit to it. We\u2019re not calling the police on you, we\u2019re just trying to determine the best way to treat what\u2019s going on.","human_ref_B":"Awesies glad ur pup is going to be ok. Hopefully he\/she will learn to say no to drugs next time! \ud83d\ude02 jk","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2790.0,"score_ratio":7.3}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz0vq4f","c_root_id_B":"iz0w76h","created_at_utc_A":1670261346,"created_at_utc_B":1670261530,"score_A":13,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"Call pet poison helpline or aspca poison control and follow their instructions.","human_ref_B":"Happened to my 2 month old puppy. Took to the vet. They said to let her sleep it off. She was having seizure like symptoms. It was terrifying. Take to vet just to be sure!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":184.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz1olh1","c_root_id_B":"iz0vq4f","created_at_utc_A":1670272409,"created_at_utc_B":1670261346,"score_A":14,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I'm glad you took your pup to the vet. It low-key erks me when people post on here about their animal ingesting something toxic, and they say I can't take them to the vet! I just wanna say \"well you have to, or they will probably die!\" Jeez. Anyway, I'm glad they are doing okay.","human_ref_B":"Call pet poison helpline or aspca poison control and follow their instructions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11063.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"zdcv6h","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"My puppy ate cannabis About 2 hours ago my puppy got some cannabis off the table and ate it, it was probably about 2 grams.    She\u2019s kind of groggy and unfortunately I think she has a buzz.      She\u2019s 5 months old, about 40 lbs.  Any advice is appreciated, just tried very and they are closed.  No judgment, please, this will never happen again!","c_root_id_A":"iz32b5n","c_root_id_B":"iz3n0fc","created_at_utc_A":1670293782,"created_at_utc_B":1670304573,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"https:\/\/kdvr.com\/news\/what-you-should-do-if-your-pets-consumes-cannabis\/amp\/ this is a very helpful segment!","human_ref_B":"So sooo glad to hear your puppy is ok!  Please do not blame yourself- puppies are amazing at getting into things they aren\u2019t supposed to!    Just for everybody here, and in case anyone in a pinch ever searches for this in a similar emergency or as a preemptive measure, can you share how your puppy got into it?  Was it just weed, or was it in an edible?  If it was the former, how did that happen?  Can a puppy eat just bud?  And if it was the latter, was there anything else dangerous in it, besides the weed?    Also, can you share how you realized it happened?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10791.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"uw7sbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"I think I gave my dog too much hydrogen peroxide My dad won\u2019t stop giving my 5 month old husky human food. So my dog took a big piece of corn like the base of it out of my dad\u2019s hand and ate it whole. I tried making him vomit with hydrogen peroxide and gave him 2 tablespoons since he is 20 pounds. He throw up his food but not the corn base. But after 30 to 40 min he was acting lethargic and started whining and just now took a nap. Also, he doesn\u2019t wan to drink water.  I don\u2019t know what should I do now.","c_root_id_A":"i9s11og","c_root_id_B":"i9rgy0g","created_at_utc_A":1653373282,"created_at_utc_B":1653360445,"score_A":20,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Hey :) go to the ER vet as soon as you can. We worry about obstruction and with the way he\u2019s acting it\u2019s  really suspect. At this point we don\u2019t want to induce any more vomiting, we want to ensure the cob doesn\u2019t become lodged in his esophagus.  Good luck and keep us updated!","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s not recommended to give hydrogen peroxide to induce vomiting, it can cause ulcers in the GI tract. Best to go to a vet and receive some follow up care.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12837.0,"score_ratio":1.5384615385}
{"post_id":"uw7sbi","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"I think I gave my dog too much hydrogen peroxide My dad won\u2019t stop giving my 5 month old husky human food. So my dog took a big piece of corn like the base of it out of my dad\u2019s hand and ate it whole. I tried making him vomit with hydrogen peroxide and gave him 2 tablespoons since he is 20 pounds. He throw up his food but not the corn base. But after 30 to 40 min he was acting lethargic and started whining and just now took a nap. Also, he doesn\u2019t wan to drink water.  I don\u2019t know what should I do now.","c_root_id_A":"i9rkqa8","c_root_id_B":"i9s11og","created_at_utc_A":1653362413,"created_at_utc_B":1653373282,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"ER asap! OP please update us, keeping your baby in my thoughts!","human_ref_B":"Hey :) go to the ER vet as soon as you can. We worry about obstruction and with the way he\u2019s acting it\u2019s  really suspect. At this point we don\u2019t want to induce any more vomiting, we want to ensure the cob doesn\u2019t become lodged in his esophagus.  Good luck and keep us updated!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10869.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmjzioa","c_root_id_B":"hmk9o6j","created_at_utc_A":1638207765,"created_at_utc_B":1638211793,"score_A":8,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"cats are carnivores but you can feed it cat kibble... they have dry or wet variations made for cats...","human_ref_B":"You can feed it cat food.   Cats are obligate carnivores, they must have meat in some form, and commercial cat food is the easiest way to provide food for them if you don't have other options. I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but if your family is not comfortable with the idea of feeding something meat-based to the cat, then you should not take on the responsibility of caring for the cat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4028.0,"score_ratio":3.375}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmkh5g7","c_root_id_B":"hmjzioa","created_at_utc_A":1638214789,"created_at_utc_B":1638207765,"score_A":15,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Do not feed it milk! Cats are naturally lactose intolerant. Get regular cat food from the store and make sure your fishes have some sort of top from preventing the cat to get to dem","human_ref_B":"cats are carnivores but you can feed it cat kibble... they have dry or wet variations made for cats...","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7024.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmkcr8h","c_root_id_B":"hmkh5g7","created_at_utc_A":1638213032,"created_at_utc_B":1638214789,"score_A":4,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"What is important, some of our ordinary human foods and seasonings are dangerous for cats (e.g. https:\/\/amp.hillspet.com\/cat-care\/nutrition-feeding\/toxic-foods-for-cats).   It's normally recommended to feed cats with commercially produced cat food; it should be intended specifically for kittens (higher in nutrients) and it should say on the packaging it's nutritionally complete. E.g.  https:\/\/www.vet.cornell.edu\/departments-centers-and-institutes\/cornell-feline-health-center\/health-information\/feline-health-topics\/feeding-your-cat  I think in every country one could normally find commercial cat food at their local supermarket, it's not expensive. Commercially manufactured cat food is divided into wet food (higher water content, often higher in animal-derived protein content, but in a country with a hot climate one has to watch for the kitten to eat their portion immediately) and dry food, which could be left for free feeding.   You are very likely to get more suggestions in subreddits for pet owners\/about cats.","human_ref_B":"Do not feed it milk! Cats are naturally lactose intolerant. Get regular cat food from the store and make sure your fishes have some sort of top from preventing the cat to get to dem","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1757.0,"score_ratio":3.75}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmjzioa","c_root_id_B":"hmkl4tk","created_at_utc_A":1638207765,"created_at_utc_B":1638216391,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"cats are carnivores but you can feed it cat kibble... they have dry or wet variations made for cats...","human_ref_B":"No milk! Give it wet kitten food that you can buy from the store.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8626.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmkl4tk","c_root_id_B":"hmkcr8h","created_at_utc_A":1638216391,"created_at_utc_B":1638213032,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"No milk! Give it wet kitten food that you can buy from the store.","human_ref_B":"What is important, some of our ordinary human foods and seasonings are dangerous for cats (e.g. https:\/\/amp.hillspet.com\/cat-care\/nutrition-feeding\/toxic-foods-for-cats).   It's normally recommended to feed cats with commercially produced cat food; it should be intended specifically for kittens (higher in nutrients) and it should say on the packaging it's nutritionally complete. E.g.  https:\/\/www.vet.cornell.edu\/departments-centers-and-institutes\/cornell-feline-health-center\/health-information\/feline-health-topics\/feeding-your-cat  I think in every country one could normally find commercial cat food at their local supermarket, it's not expensive. Commercially manufactured cat food is divided into wet food (higher water content, often higher in animal-derived protein content, but in a country with a hot climate one has to watch for the kitten to eat their portion immediately) and dry food, which could be left for free feeding.   You are very likely to get more suggestions in subreddits for pet owners\/about cats.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3359.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"r4tjik","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Just found a stray, my whole family is vegetarian so i am confused on what to feed it I found a stray kitten right next to my house, it's very young ,probably around 5 weeks old. My neighbours have claimed seeing it's mother sometimes in the neighbourhood but she's been absent in my eyes and the baby is all alone. I gave it some milk in a bowl and went away. After a while i came to check on it, it was drinking the milk but was still scared of me. The problem is that i live in india and my whole family is vegetarian since birth, even me. My parents are against the idea of keeping a cat as a pet cuz we already have fishes at home and she might try to eat them but i really wanna help this kitty. If you guys have some recommendations on what to do, please let me know in the comments.","c_root_id_A":"hmmwzmm","c_root_id_B":"hml0ix7","created_at_utc_A":1638255656,"created_at_utc_B":1638222551,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Please just buy cat canned food and dry biscuits as a minimum.  Cats are not vegetarian by nature and can fall ill and die on a vegetarian diet.  No milk No garlic, onions Get rid of your Lillies if you have any, this plant is seriously toxic to cats No grapes  Just feed your new cat baby cat canned food and dry biscuits.  A litter tray as well if you can so they can pee\/poop.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet. No milk, and no veggies. Cats aren\u2019t built to process those foods. Cat food is ideal, especially since it\u2019s a young kitten, but since it\u2019s a stray I doubt it\u2019s eating very well anyway. There aren\u2019t many vegetarian foods you could give it, would you be able to get some cooked rice\/fish for it? Again, it\u2019s not a great diet but is better than starving in my opinion.   This probably isn\u2019t the right sub, maybe try something related to animal rescue, cats, pet food, or otherwise?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33105.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"dv9tmc","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Hello - Is it safe to clean a litterbox with Clorox wipes (presuming that the surfaces have dried)?","c_root_id_A":"f7bktdz","c_root_id_B":"f7bg8iu","created_at_utc_A":1573571481,"created_at_utc_B":1573568025,"score_A":54,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"The strong scent of the wipes may be off putting to your cat. Non scented or minimally scented cleaners may be a better choice. Also- be sure that if you use bleach wipes or a dilute bleach solution like another poster suggested, there is no urine left in the box (eg it\u2019s been cleaned with soapy water first), as the ammonium from cat urine combined with bleach makes a poisonous gas.","human_ref_B":"Yes and you can go a step further by letting them soak in a dilute bleach solution","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3456.0,"score_ratio":1.8620689655}
{"post_id":"ggznso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.","c_root_id_A":"fq5robt","c_root_id_B":"fq5qop4","created_at_utc_A":1589115592,"created_at_utc_B":1589114777,"score_A":61,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg\/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg\/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg\/kg\/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.","human_ref_B":"Pyrantel (strongid) is a very safe medication and, although you\u2019ll want to get another dewormer to give in 2 weeks, your kitten should be fine even if he got two doses today.  Obviously, if he starts acting extremely off, you should take him to an ER facility but it will unlikely be because of the strongid. Did he receive vaccines today?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":815.0,"score_ratio":3.3888888889}
{"post_id":"ggznso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.","c_root_id_A":"fq5robt","c_root_id_B":"fq5r1gm","created_at_utc_A":1589115592,"created_at_utc_B":1589115072,"score_A":61,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg\/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg\/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg\/kg\/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.","human_ref_B":"It would probably be worth calling your local emergency vet for advice and a physical exam and consultation to ensure there is no immediate risk to your kitten.  The active in strongid is pyrantel which is a generally safe drug with a high margin of safety. However, with any potential mis-dosing it is advisable to seek professional advice, I would still contact an emergency vet local to you and arrange an appointment.  If you want more information and advice (e.g. if vet bills are too much) then consider calling the number on this site: https:\/\/www.aspca.org\/pet-care\/animal-poison-control  The ASPCA is an animal welfare charity that has a poison helpline (among helping animal welfare in other ways- great charity!)  Alternatively if you are in the UK contacting the Veterinary Poison Information Service: https:\/\/www.vpisglobal.com","labels":1,"seconds_difference":520.0,"score_ratio":7.625}
{"post_id":"ggznso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.","c_root_id_A":"fq5pey3","c_root_id_B":"fq5robt","created_at_utc_A":1589113677,"created_at_utc_B":1589115592,"score_A":3,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?","human_ref_B":"Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg\/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg\/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg\/kg\/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1915.0,"score_ratio":20.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ggznso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.","c_root_id_A":"fq5pey3","c_root_id_B":"fq5qop4","created_at_utc_A":1589113677,"created_at_utc_B":1589114777,"score_A":3,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?","human_ref_B":"Pyrantel (strongid) is a very safe medication and, although you\u2019ll want to get another dewormer to give in 2 weeks, your kitten should be fine even if he got two doses today.  Obviously, if he starts acting extremely off, you should take him to an ER facility but it will unlikely be because of the strongid. Did he receive vaccines today?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1100.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"ggznso","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.","c_root_id_A":"fq5r1gm","c_root_id_B":"fq5pey3","created_at_utc_A":1589115072,"created_at_utc_B":1589113677,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It would probably be worth calling your local emergency vet for advice and a physical exam and consultation to ensure there is no immediate risk to your kitten.  The active in strongid is pyrantel which is a generally safe drug with a high margin of safety. However, with any potential mis-dosing it is advisable to seek professional advice, I would still contact an emergency vet local to you and arrange an appointment.  If you want more information and advice (e.g. if vet bills are too much) then consider calling the number on this site: https:\/\/www.aspca.org\/pet-care\/animal-poison-control  The ASPCA is an animal welfare charity that has a poison helpline (among helping animal welfare in other ways- great charity!)  Alternatively if you are in the UK contacting the Veterinary Poison Information Service: https:\/\/www.vpisglobal.com","human_ref_B":"Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1395.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"csvz28","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"When is the right time to have my cat put to sleep? (Seizures) Ok, so I have had my cat since she was a kitten (we got her from a farm) , I honestly can't remember how old she is, the time has shot by but I believe she is around 12-13. A year or so back she began to have the occasional seizure lasting between 30 seconds - 1 minute, my mum says that the vet told her that it's hard and expensive to diagnose and that the cat was quite old so it may not be worth the cost, I disagree, I cant put a price on my pets life but my mum chose not to pursue it.   She usually recovers quite quickly but I had a phone call from my mum last Wednesday saying that the cat had multiple seizures over the space of 24 hours, and she had spoke to a vet who advised she needed to be put down to avoid suffering, so my mum had booked her in for Saturday. I rushed home to see how the cat was doing and she just seemed really dazed and spaced out, but over the next few days she recovered as usual, albeit much slower. Saturday morning rolled around and I was dreading taking the cat to the vets, especially because she seemed mostly fine, so I talked my mum into cancelling the Vets appointment and seeing how the cat is over the next week or 2 because this cluster seizure could have just been a 1 off, when she asked the vet about diagnosis and medication she was told they can't diagnose a seizure without seeing it so we would have to take her in while she was seizing, that seems stupid to me as they random and by the time we got there it would have finished, is it enough to take her in after a seizure, would that be helpful for diagnosis?   One thing I have noticed bout the cat since is that she seems to be partially blind now, like if I walk into a room she can hear me but she can't pinpoint where I am until I am about  2 feet away from her, the same if I reach out to stroke her, when my hand gets within about 2 feet she suddenly jumps a little when she sees my hand.   So, the point of this post is that I don't know if I did the right thing, my cat does not seem to be in any distress\/discomfort but she does seem to have suddenly lost most of her sight, am I being selfish by not getting her put to sleep? How will I know if\/when it's necessary to do it?","c_root_id_A":"exhcuko","c_root_id_B":"exhdcbx","created_at_utc_A":1566301383,"created_at_utc_B":1566301859,"score_A":22,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"My advice would be that the next time she starts to have a seizure take a video of it with your phone. I know it seems pretty messed up to record something like that but if in the process of taking her to the vet while she's seizing and she stops at least you will have something to show the vet and this could be very useful in helping find a diagnosis.","human_ref_B":"Has she ever been put on seizure medication to control her seizures? First line of defense seizure medications are cheap.   Is her blindness just after a seizure, or is it constant? After a seizure, many animals can experience temporary blindness. However, if it\u2019s constant, brain damage because of uncontrolled seizures can be a concern.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":476.0,"score_ratio":1.1363636364}
{"post_id":"csvz28","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"When is the right time to have my cat put to sleep? (Seizures) Ok, so I have had my cat since she was a kitten (we got her from a farm) , I honestly can't remember how old she is, the time has shot by but I believe she is around 12-13. A year or so back she began to have the occasional seizure lasting between 30 seconds - 1 minute, my mum says that the vet told her that it's hard and expensive to diagnose and that the cat was quite old so it may not be worth the cost, I disagree, I cant put a price on my pets life but my mum chose not to pursue it.   She usually recovers quite quickly but I had a phone call from my mum last Wednesday saying that the cat had multiple seizures over the space of 24 hours, and she had spoke to a vet who advised she needed to be put down to avoid suffering, so my mum had booked her in for Saturday. I rushed home to see how the cat was doing and she just seemed really dazed and spaced out, but over the next few days she recovered as usual, albeit much slower. Saturday morning rolled around and I was dreading taking the cat to the vets, especially because she seemed mostly fine, so I talked my mum into cancelling the Vets appointment and seeing how the cat is over the next week or 2 because this cluster seizure could have just been a 1 off, when she asked the vet about diagnosis and medication she was told they can't diagnose a seizure without seeing it so we would have to take her in while she was seizing, that seems stupid to me as they random and by the time we got there it would have finished, is it enough to take her in after a seizure, would that be helpful for diagnosis?   One thing I have noticed bout the cat since is that she seems to be partially blind now, like if I walk into a room she can hear me but she can't pinpoint where I am until I am about  2 feet away from her, the same if I reach out to stroke her, when my hand gets within about 2 feet she suddenly jumps a little when she sees my hand.   So, the point of this post is that I don't know if I did the right thing, my cat does not seem to be in any distress\/discomfort but she does seem to have suddenly lost most of her sight, am I being selfish by not getting her put to sleep? How will I know if\/when it's necessary to do it?","c_root_id_A":"exhgvn6","c_root_id_B":"exhftke","created_at_utc_A":1566304778,"created_at_utc_B":1566303897,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I do not think putting your cat to sleep is necessary at all without first evaluating medicinal options with your vet.  Also, in the case of seizures, many times, a person or animal is unaware that a seizure is happening.  The animal may not be aware of the seizures happening, and you cannot consider this to be an indication of pain.  Do not think of it as pain.  Also, you should just get out a phone and take a video of the next time the cat has a seizure.  The vet does not need to see the cat actually having a seizure. If so, you need to find a new vet; however, seeing a video will help the vet determine the best type of medication so this can be important.  You are absolutely not being selfish.  Blindness is not a reason to put her to sleep.  Seizures can be managed with medication.  Actual signs of pain are the reason you would need to put your cat to sleep, and these are not being revealed yet.  When chronic pain is revealed, it will be time.  There are also two types of medicine.  One type is to prevent seizures or lessen their severity.  The other type is rescue medication.  You need both on hand.  One is to rescue her from the cluster seizures, and the other is to try to prevent them altogether.","human_ref_B":"Take a video of the seizure and show the vet.  That will solve the 'want to see the seizing cat' dilemma","labels":1,"seconds_difference":881.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"pserl4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.79,"history":"Just had my cat put to sleep. Conflicted about my decision. Idk what I'm asking here. Idk what I'm hoping to gain from asking but i feel like i need feedback from someone who isn't a loved one - someone who isnt just like, \"aw, she had a good life, don't beat yourself up\" trying to make me feel better. I don't need to feel better about my decision, i need to know whether or not i fucked my lil baby over in making my decision.  No one knows for sure how old she was. I'd had her about 8 years, met her as a stray who showed up one morning on my bedroom window sill screaming for help. Shed been badly malnourished and abused for likely the majority of if not her entire life up until that morning. Beyond the superficial wounds, hair loss, infections etc. she was severely emaciated - about 3.5 lbs fully grown (whereas, upon receiving some much needed rehabilitation, an ideal weight of 9 lbs was eventually reached). Beyond even that, her lil frame was even improperly formed - her back legs bowed and her shoulders and hips \"pinched\" and unnaturally narrow - issues the vets had attributed to deficiencies suffered throughout her kittenhood and adolescence. Her teeth were broken and improperly formed. One was impacted and had to be surgically removed from her jawbone which also needed repaired - an issue the vets attributed to an upward-swinging trauma (\"someone's done kicked you in your poor lil chompers ain't they\" were the vet's exact words).   Due to the dental and skeletal damage\/malformations, the the vets had always been unable to properly narrow down an age. All they were ever able to tell me is that she was *definitely* \"an adult\", *probably* a \"mature adult\" and *possibly* a \"senior adult\" at the time of adoption.   Other than these issues and several parasitic infestations, shed received a \"clean\" bill of health as far as FIV, feline leukemia, panleukopenia, diabetes etc go. She did have herpes 1. Obviously she received treatment for all treatable conditions.  She was cared for. She got special food. Special snacks. Extra attention. So much love. She had her own heating pad. Plenty of toys. Liquid vitamins in her fresh water. 3 much younger feline friends who treated her with wholesome respect I've not seen outside a 1950s film. She was a solid black lil lady whose random white hairs had grown significantly in number the last few years - she was clearly getting \"up there\" in age but still had so much zest and zing and sass.  She had just been driving me crazy begging for my tacos early last week. Crawling up into my lap screaming for a bite as i explained that it was too spicy and that she had some beef pate in the kitchen.  Then maybe 5 days ago, she hadn't been in my face to beg for my dinner. I went to check on her as this was quite unusual. She appeared to have a lil herpes flare up - her nose just a tiny bit runny. I made sure she ate her own food and figured shed she just needed some rest.  The next day, she wouldn't come out from under the bed til noon - even then it was by \"force\". She drank, but wouldnt eat - not even her favorite. She just seemed super tired. I made an appointment with the vet - the next opening for the closest one several days away. She hated car rides with a passion and i thought it best we not take her to the closest vet that allowed walk ins just yet -- which is about 2 hours away. I thought she just had a lil bug.  The next day, her back legs were noticeably super weak. She ate maybe half a teaspoon of pate. She drank a little. She just wanted sleep. We took her to the emergency vet 2 hours away. They suggested euthanasia before even giving her fluids or any emergency treatment. Fuck you guys, i thought. You lazy callous pieces of shit. I had them give her fluids, antibiotics, vitamin shots and took her home.   The next day, she could barely walk. Shed crawl a few feet and lay down. Shed try to get up and stumble. I didn't sleep or otherwise let her out of my sight. I took her everywhere she needed to go. Tried to oral syringe-feed her a liquified version of her favorite food to no avail - though she still drank water willingly. She insisted upon being taken to the litter box to pee - always a lady, she wouldn't dare pee outside it. She still gave lil head boops and rubbed her lil face on me - but she stopped purring.  Yesterday morning around 4am i  woke her up after shed been asleep on the couch next to me for several hours. I thought she was dead. When i woke her up she could barely lift her head. I frantically tried to syringe some water into her mouth - but she wouldn't even open it. As i held her i heard her breathing slow, her heartbeat decline and felt the warmth rapidly leave her body. I wrapped her up in her heating pad, then inside a lil snuggly \"sack\" kitty bed. She'd fall asleep for a few minutes, then wake up (barely) and outstretch her lil hand to touch mine, then fall back asleep. I rocked her, wiped the fluid draining from her lil nose and hqeld her lil hand til 7 when the closest vet opened. I immediately called and said \"i have an appointment for tomorrow but you're gonna see my baby *right now*.   When we got there after the 5 or so minute drive, we waited just a minute or two for them to get their shit together. Still holding my lil girl in the heating pad\/sack, standing in the lobby, i noticed her appear to raise up abruptly. I thought she had only just realized where she was and was shocked.  On the way into the exam room, she did it again. I yelled \"she's seizing i think\" and the assistant ran to me to see her.   She yelled to the vet that they had an emergency, that \"she's gone agonal\". They took her from me, let the pad and sack drop and laid her on the table.  Checked her eyes and her pulse.  They then suggested that we  go ahead and euthanize her. Said it was the only thing that could be done, that \"there was no one home\". Told me that she was gasping for air in a reflexive action the brain initiates when it's not getting enough oxygen to sustain itself. Told us that if we chose to delay euthanasia, it would only serve to prolong her suffering for maybe a few more hours. Told us shes basically suffocating and in pain. I signed the consent form.  He immediately gave her the shot and she proceeded to carry on gasping a few minutes - the gasps appearing more desperate than before the shot. I lost it. Frantically asked if they messed something up, if shes still in there, if this meant she could be revived. They said no, shes gone, this is a post mortem reflex. I stroked her head as her movements ceased.  I wasn't fully comfortable with the answers id gotten about these reflexes and looked some stuff up. I found info indicating that agonal breathing doesn't necessarily mean death - that resuscitate is possible. That the brain is still alive.   If what they told me isnt necessarily true, what else may not be true? Could they have revived her? Boosted her heart rate and put her on artificial respiration while administering whatever other aid she may have needed til she stabilized? Was she prematurely condemned and would she have possibly stabilized if she hadn't been?  Idk and i know its impossible to know for sure. But i feel like i fucked up. She trusted me and I feel like i let her down.  Idk what to think and idk what to do.","c_root_id_A":"hdpw86u","c_root_id_B":"hdq0am4","created_at_utc_A":1632233049,"created_at_utc_B":1632234820,"score_A":43,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"Our instinct is to try to save our pet at all costs. They are our best friends, they can\u2019t speak for themselves, they depend on us. However, that instinct is really selfish. They\u2019ve likely been hiding their pain a long time, and they always give you their best and most loving self. So, maybe this time \u2014 and I\u2019ve had a few times myself \u2014 you did the unselfish thing and let them go as quickly as you could. Now YOU have the pain and the grief, but they don\u2019t anymore. I\u2019m really sorry you went through this, but I hope you do it again some day when a needy, scared animal chooses you. It will happen, they come to kind people when they need help. Go ahead and mourn your loss, but you did the right thing by your kitty.","human_ref_B":"Your cat absolutely could not have been saved at the second presentation - possibly at the first but without diagnostics (did you allow those?) I can\u2019t comment.  I\u2019m going to lock this thread, please update the original info with labwork results, x rays, ultrasound images, etc for further comments. Based on your comments and the info in this post, I\u2019m not going to sit idly by while more one sided unverifiable vet bashing goes on.  We do this because we love animals; the more people act this way the more of us are going to leave the field, either by quitting or suicide. Euthanizing your girl would have saved her the suffering that imminently followed, and the grief and trauma you\u2019re going to experience now from watching her suffer. I\u2019m sorry this happened to you and her.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1771.0,"score_ratio":1.6046511628}
{"post_id":"c3uydl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Grain free foods and heart problems. Are the issues really do prevalent? I have been reading that grain free food has been responsible for the deaths of many dogs.  I want to know if the risk is as high as I\u2019ve read or if it\u2019s malarkey. Mostly because I don\u2019t want to unintentionally kill my dogs.  If there are issues what are they?   How high is the risk actually?  For the actual vets on here, do you see many cases where dog food was a factor?","c_root_id_A":"ertu7g9","c_root_id_B":"ertls3f","created_at_utc_A":1561253418,"created_at_utc_B":1561246113,"score_A":24,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"Those who posted the link to tufts are correct, it is not just grain-free diets that are the problem, it is boutique, exotic ingredient, and grain free food. It is most definitely not malarkey, it is very real and being seen more often than you would think. If your pup truly has a grain sensitivity (which is possible, albeit unlikely), talk to your vet about veterinary prescription diets that may fit his needs.","human_ref_B":"https:\/\/vetnutrition.tufts.edu\/2018\/11\/dcm-update\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7305.0,"score_ratio":1.4117647059}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi5yjz","c_root_id_B":"dwi4to0","created_at_utc_A":1522367787,"created_at_utc_B":1522366591,"score_A":81,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"If they've come through the door to see me, then that's the first step in the right direction. I try to encourage the owners and make them feel like they've done the right thing (I want them to feel GOOD about coming to see me), never try to make them feel guilty about not seeking care earlier (what's this going to accomplish?), and then empower them with the information to make decisions that they're comfortable with, and that I'm comfortable with medically for the pet.   Do I totally judge people in my mind, and is it incredibly emotionally draining? All the time - but I put that aside. My job is to look out for the pet's best interest. I'm also really lazy... so by being encouraging and supportive and honest about options with the client, and making them feel good about coming to me, it makes my life waaaaaaaaaay easier because usually they will listen to my suggestions :)","human_ref_B":"I'm about 2 months away from graduation, yay! Last year I took a class called End of Life Issues. That spoke a lot about end of life care, and in general just explored a lot about how it's so hard to know where other people are coming from, what situations lead them to be in their situation and often client education is a huge huge factor. Since that class, I am in general far more empathetic when clients can't afford treatment, waited long periods to seek help, ect. The truth is they are in the veterinary hospital asking for help, right there is all I need to know that they do love their pets. Why would they be here if they didn't. It's easy to get jaded and think \"wow these are the worst owners ever\", nope, because there are some that didn't even bring their pet to you in the first place.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1196.0,"score_ratio":2.3142857143}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi5yjz","c_root_id_B":"dwi4bay","created_at_utc_A":1522367787,"created_at_utc_B":1522366055,"score_A":81,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"If they've come through the door to see me, then that's the first step in the right direction. I try to encourage the owners and make them feel like they've done the right thing (I want them to feel GOOD about coming to see me), never try to make them feel guilty about not seeking care earlier (what's this going to accomplish?), and then empower them with the information to make decisions that they're comfortable with, and that I'm comfortable with medically for the pet.   Do I totally judge people in my mind, and is it incredibly emotionally draining? All the time - but I put that aside. My job is to look out for the pet's best interest. I'm also really lazy... so by being encouraging and supportive and honest about options with the client, and making them feel good about coming to me, it makes my life waaaaaaaaaay easier because usually they will listen to my suggestions :)","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, I'm an assistant.  Client education is a very important part of the job. Helping people understand why prompt care and preventive care is important is a lot of what I do.  It's incredibly frustrating at times, especially when people complain about the cost or decline everything. It's part of the reason why staff gets burnout and compassion fatigue.  Candy helps.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1732.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi4to0","c_root_id_B":"dwi6pfe","created_at_utc_A":1522366591,"created_at_utc_B":1522368577,"score_A":35,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"I'm about 2 months away from graduation, yay! Last year I took a class called End of Life Issues. That spoke a lot about end of life care, and in general just explored a lot about how it's so hard to know where other people are coming from, what situations lead them to be in their situation and often client education is a huge huge factor. Since that class, I am in general far more empathetic when clients can't afford treatment, waited long periods to seek help, ect. The truth is they are in the veterinary hospital asking for help, right there is all I need to know that they do love their pets. Why would they be here if they didn't. It's easy to get jaded and think \"wow these are the worst owners ever\", nope, because there are some that didn't even bring their pet to you in the first place.","human_ref_B":"Here is the long and the short of it...and something that many vets have an issue with: you cannot care more for an animal than an owner does. You do the best you can with the time you have with the patient...that\u2019s the best we can do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1986.0,"score_ratio":1.5142857143}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi4bay","c_root_id_B":"dwi6pfe","created_at_utc_A":1522366055,"created_at_utc_B":1522368577,"score_A":18,"score_B":53,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, I'm an assistant.  Client education is a very important part of the job. Helping people understand why prompt care and preventive care is important is a lot of what I do.  It's incredibly frustrating at times, especially when people complain about the cost or decline everything. It's part of the reason why staff gets burnout and compassion fatigue.  Candy helps.","human_ref_B":"Here is the long and the short of it...and something that many vets have an issue with: you cannot care more for an animal than an owner does. You do the best you can with the time you have with the patient...that\u2019s the best we can do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2522.0,"score_ratio":2.9444444444}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi6pfe","c_root_id_B":"dwi60sb","created_at_utc_A":1522368577,"created_at_utc_B":1522367855,"score_A":53,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Here is the long and the short of it...and something that many vets have an issue with: you cannot care more for an animal than an owner does. You do the best you can with the time you have with the patient...that\u2019s the best we can do.","human_ref_B":"Assistant here. This is probably the hardest part of the job, and the thing that upsets me the most. As the owner of two rescue animals who\u2019s previous owners made every excuse for why they weren\u2019t giving them the proper care, but claimed they love them like children... let me tell you, it\u2019s a grudge I take with me between work and home. And the truth is that A LOT of pet owners are like this. More than not, in my experience, though working at a higher-cost clinic we do see a lot of INCREDIBLE and wonderful pet owners who truly do treat their pets like family. People leaving their pet\u2019s illnesses too long, bringing in obese animals or animals who are wasting away to nothing. People who call us because their pet \u201chasn\u2019t eaten in 6 days\u201d but they think NOW is the time to address it. People who opt to euthanize animals who can be treated, and refuse our staff offering to take the animal on as their own to save its life... People who get multiple animals they can\u2019t afford and then treat us like garbage when they can\u2019t pay their vet bills. I\u2019ve also experienced clients who have KILLED THEIR OWN PETS out of negligence, including running them over with the car, which is something that traumatized me pretty deeply. There\u2019s a reason veterinary workers burn out so easily, and even turn to suicide.   And honestly, you can\u2019t convince these people that they aren\u2019t doing right by their pet. I have family members EXACTLY like the people you describe. I use my experience with veterinary care to explain to them, often harshly, about their disconnect. They ALWAYS have an excuse, they will always deny, project, ignore, etc. It\u2019s just something we have to deal with, honestly. It\u2019s something that a lot of us take home, or repress. :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":722.0,"score_ratio":3.7857142857}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi4bay","c_root_id_B":"dwi4to0","created_at_utc_A":1522366055,"created_at_utc_B":1522366591,"score_A":18,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, I'm an assistant.  Client education is a very important part of the job. Helping people understand why prompt care and preventive care is important is a lot of what I do.  It's incredibly frustrating at times, especially when people complain about the cost or decline everything. It's part of the reason why staff gets burnout and compassion fatigue.  Candy helps.","human_ref_B":"I'm about 2 months away from graduation, yay! Last year I took a class called End of Life Issues. That spoke a lot about end of life care, and in general just explored a lot about how it's so hard to know where other people are coming from, what situations lead them to be in their situation and often client education is a huge huge factor. Since that class, I am in general far more empathetic when clients can't afford treatment, waited long periods to seek help, ect. The truth is they are in the veterinary hospital asking for help, right there is all I need to know that they do love their pets. Why would they be here if they didn't. It's easy to get jaded and think \"wow these are the worst owners ever\", nope, because there are some that didn't even bring their pet to you in the first place.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":536.0,"score_ratio":1.9444444444}
{"post_id":"885mys","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Vets, how do you deal with people who neglect their pets but claim they love them and they are part of the family? Please delete if this is not appropriate. One of my mates has recently started as a vet student nurse and the stories he has already told me about people neglecting their pets are terrible. It sounds like common sense goes out the window about when to take the animal to the vet. But the owner still goes on and on about how the animal is their world and they love them.   What surprised me was how many people it sounds like there are who neglect their pets during what are clear emergencies, but claim they love them and care about them.   Like, they could be having a gaping wound that is clearly very infected; or the animal is struggling to breathe but they still question whether they need to see a vet; or the animal has been vomiting for several days and being unable to keep anything down, etc. etc. Clearly they\u2019re dehydrated and have something going on and need urgent medical attention. And I could go on, but you get the picture. Someone doesn\u2019t need a medical degree to know they need medical attention.   I\u2019ve always personally followed the logic that if in doubt, get it checked out and what would I do if the animal were my human child...   How do you cope with these kinds of situations where the (often lengthy) delayed treatment is detrimental to the animal, without it bringing you down or getting snarky at the owner? Especially when there would probably be complaints about the cost, when, if the animal was brought in sooner, it would probably work out cheaper in the first place...","c_root_id_A":"dwi9p9a","c_root_id_B":"dwia0rp","created_at_utc_A":1522371712,"created_at_utc_B":1522372056,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"And I want to say thank you for truly viewing your pets as dependents. They need so much from us and it\u2019s incredibly hard seeing so many people who don\u2019t do enough. I\u2019m fortunate that our practice has many amazing clients who would do ANYTHING for their animals, and they really do keep the positivity going in the clinic :) just know that good pet owners: WE RECOGNIZE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN YOU KNOW!","human_ref_B":"Best advice I've ever gotten: Ignore what people say and pay attention to what they do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":344.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"9ne7hf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My cat has two small hard rice grain shaped things sticking out of his front paw. He doesn't seem bothered by them. They are the same colour as his paws and don't seem like a foreign object that's stuck into the paw rather something growing out of the paw. pic in comments https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/2de0uPT","c_root_id_A":"e7lzxxp","c_root_id_B":"e7lvnyl","created_at_utc_A":1539307296,"created_at_utc_B":1539303389,"score_A":21,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Sticking true to this sub, Go see a vet.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s impossible to tell from that picture alone. Go to the vet and get a professional analysis.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3907.0,"score_ratio":1.6153846154}
{"post_id":"9lvhfs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"My cat has started making a strange clicking noise when opening and closing her mouth randomly, she seems reluctant to eat or drink, and there is some drainage below her mouth, it almost seems like what dried snot would look like. I have no income right now, I\u2019m starting a job in a week, but I want to do anything and everything I can to help my baby.  There is no way I can afford a vet right now, I\u2019ve heard the bills are really expensive for things with cats mouth, jaw, and teeth. The clicking noise isn\u2019t the excited noise some cats make, if anyone can tell me how to post pictures or videos, I can try and post those, I guess what I\u2019m asking is does anyone have any clue what could be wrong, and any advice or any way I can get her help, I live in Maine. She is a Siamese mix, one year and 7 months old, this is the first problem she has had.","c_root_id_A":"e7a34jl","c_root_id_B":"e79weox","created_at_utc_A":1538843369,"created_at_utc_B":1538836897,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Call some vets and ask for advice etc. tell them your situation","human_ref_B":"(I'm not a vet)    Call the vet you normally use, and ask if they do payment arrangements.  Most don't, but some do... especially if you're a long term client.      (edit: removed anecdote explaining how a local animal shelter may be able to assist)","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6472.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"9wunq7","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Advice needed on possible career change (Becoming a vet) Hi Folks,   &#x200B;  I am a 28 year old Male from Maryland thinking about switching my career. I would really like to become a Wildlife Behavioral Health expert someday. I would also like to be able to diagnose and treat medical issues, perform surgery and care. Eventually I would also like to be involved in research work in areas such as Wildlife conservation effort, especially with mass migration (human\/animal) and climate change events occurring. I am also really interested in the drastically increasing livestock populations and its impacts on our environment. The impacts of ivory trade, diminishing exotic wildlife populations due to use in eastern medicine, diminishing sea-life due to exhaustive fishing practices. --- This list can go on and on. Basically I want to pursue a Veterinary career and than pivot off into research and conservation efforts across the world.  &#x200B;  Now, the last time I took biology was 10 years ago. Chemistry\/Physics was like in High School 2007\/2008.   I always found math challenging and barely scraped by in HS. In college I did my best to find a major with the most basic math requirements. In the past 10 years I have worked Linguistics\/defense\/intel\/cybersecurity. It also took me 10 years since graduating high school to graduate with a Bachelors of Science in Cyber Security this past May 2018. (due to working full-time and taking classes when I could) I graduated with a 3.0+ GPA   While I do find cybersecurity interesting and I know I can have a financially comfortable life staying in this field; I would rather spend my time working with and for animals. Therefore I have realized that I need to face up to my fears and do whatever it takes to overcome my fear of mathematics. This is holding me back. I cannot pursue my passions, until I take on Calculus and than Physics\/Chemistry\/Genetics\/etc will hopefully fall in line.  &#x200B;  After some research, here are my options:     \\- Enroll in a community college to take ONLY prerequisites needed for Vet School. Start knocking them out  while trying to gain experience by getting a job\/internship\/volunteer with sanctuary, clinic, shelters, horse stables, farms, etc. Go to night classes and work full time to gain experience and pay for basic necessities. Teach myself, get a tutor and whatever it takes to excel in the science courses, pass them and then apply to variety of DVM programs in hopes I get in. If I dont, I am stuck with maybe a $10K student loan debt, but hopefully I have 10 years to keep applying to various DVM programs, until the courses expire.  &#x200B;  OR  &#x200B;  \\- Apply for a second bachelors in Animal Science degree or pre-vet program. I have looked into University of Maryland College Park and their partnership with other institutes. They have a combined AG\/Veterinary medicine 1299D program. Link: https:\/\/ansc.umd.edu\/undergraduate\/program-options\/combined-ag-veterinary-medicine-1299d  Enroll full time, transfer what credits I can and take what I need. As soon as I meet my prerequisites, start applying to various DVM programs. Rely on student loans and volunteer\/intern to any animal related opportunity I can find.  While I am waiting to get accepted into DVM program, finish the BSc and move towards a Masters\/PhD in animal sciences\/zoology.  &#x200B;  =====  &#x200B;  Now I need advice from the community. What do you all think? Is it too unreasonable to do this? Is it worth it at the end?   I know I will be taking on lots of student loans and probably sacrificing 8 years of my life and than competing with youngsters for jobs later. However I am not doing this for money or a comfortable life, I truly want to try to make a change on a bigger scale. I see folks dropping out of Veterinary programs to pursue computer science\/cybersecurity. I understand the grass is always greener on the other side. But I feel it is not too late to make a drastic change like this.   &#x200B;  Please tell me from your experience and guide me, so that I can continue towards the right path. I am hoping to start taking courses in Fall of 2019.  &#x200B;  =====  &#x200B;  Facts about me:   \\- 28 year old male   \\- Married: Wife is actually encouraging me to becoming a Veterinarian    \\- 1 BSc Degree in Cyber Security    \\- 5 years of work experience in Information Technology   \\- Looking to stay in Maryland for time being (have a mortgage)   \\- Open to relocating for DVM program  &#x200B;  Exposure to Animals  \\- Experience with Dogs, Cats, Birds, Reptiles, Rodents (PETS)    Cared for a pregnant dog from conception to birth of 11 pups, all the way to another 10 weeks raising the puppies) -very exhaustive but rewarding experience  \\- Experience with Goats, Chickens, Ducks, peacock (Novice backyard-farmer)  \\- Experience with Emus (only thing slightly exotic)  \\- Have ridden horses, camels and elephants - (tourist)  \\- Once fed a baby chimpanzee and baby tiger - (tourist)  &#x200B;  The point I am trying to make is that I have some degree of exposure to animals, while I may not have detailed and insightful experience, I am not hesitant to earning some. Lastly, I have loads of experience picking up poop, cleaning, bloods and guts, basic first aid. So this wont be daunting for me.     I hope you read through it and have positive insight for me on what should be my next steps.  &#x200B;  Thank you :)  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e9nrwfs","c_root_id_B":"e9oaqj8","created_at_utc_A":1542166081,"created_at_utc_B":1542195248,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"I know someone who did this in their mid-30s. She's now a veterinarian with her own practice. It was hard, but if you have the grit, you can do it.","human_ref_B":"I am 39 years old and currently in my 3rd year of vet school and miserable (but so are the majority of my classmates). This is, by far, the hardest thing I have ever done.  My previous background was in human health care so i had nearly all of the prereqs I needed before I decided to apply to vet school, which helped me, although having to take them might ease you back in to the whole atmosphere of studying and learning, which is a serious struggle for me after being out in the workforce for so long. Things to consider - wildlife people make no money.  You'll have an even harder time than the average vet paying off those student loans, which average upwards of $200,000.   I assume you are in the US.  If you have an in-state school, go to it. Financially, it is the ONLY thing that makes sense.  If you don't have an in-state school,  then go to one of the few that has a good wildlife program (most have little to no wildlife training).  Check out the prereqs required. Each school varies,  and each school varies on how recently you have to take the prereqs.  Because I had been out of school for so long there were some schools I absolutely would NOT have applied to because ot would have meant retaking everything.  Some schools require the GRE and some don't. That's where your hatred of math is going to hurt you. You need to start getting experience with a vet now.  You need a decent amount of experience ina variety of areas - small animal, large animal, food animal, wildlife\/exotics\/zoo.  It is required just to apply and you'll also need those vets for references. The more hours and experience you get just improves the strength of your application.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29167.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"gp6zg1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Hi, my cat hasn't been eating and it's been 3 days I'm getting worried.","c_root_id_A":"frl10kp","c_root_id_B":"frkrq6n","created_at_utc_A":1590267341,"created_at_utc_B":1590262125,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This entire sub should just have an auto response \u201cBring it to the vet\u201d.","human_ref_B":"A cat can be without eating for only three days, see a vet now!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5216.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cil7vl1","c_root_id_B":"cild82s","created_at_utc_A":1404167536,"created_at_utc_B":1404179595,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"http:\/\/huskydogs-net.blogspot.com\/2007\/05\/do-not-shave-your-husky-for-summer.html  though shaving the belly and feathers CAN be helpful depending on circumstances.  Air conditioned doggy day care is another great way to help beat the heat while letting them socialize\/exercise. There are also doggy booties to protect their feet from the hot pavement.","human_ref_B":"If your Husky is thoroughly groomed on a regular basis (every 4-6 weeks) and brushed weekly at home to maintain the undercoat  your dog should be fine. The undercoat will help regulate your dogs body temp and protect your dogs skin, however if the undercoat builds up it is more like having a winter jacket glued to your skin.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12059.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cild82s","c_root_id_B":"cil8urn","created_at_utc_A":1404179595,"created_at_utc_B":1404169609,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If your Husky is thoroughly groomed on a regular basis (every 4-6 weeks) and brushed weekly at home to maintain the undercoat  your dog should be fine. The undercoat will help regulate your dogs body temp and protect your dogs skin, however if the undercoat builds up it is more like having a winter jacket glued to your skin.","human_ref_B":"I have often wondered this.  My situation is the opposite of this, we have chihuahuas and live in eastern Canada.  The winters here can reach as low as -30C (-22F).  It's worth noting that our dogs were bred and have lived their whole life in this climate so I would say they have adapted as best they can.  Since they are prone to frostbite and hypothermia winter time means shorter times outside and usually involves wearing a jacket in the colder months. I'm not a vet but in my experience dogs will adapt to the climate with the propper precautions from their owner. I would also love to hear a vets opinion on this","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9986.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cil8jfc","c_root_id_B":"cild82s","created_at_utc_A":1404168936,"created_at_utc_B":1404179595,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but I've been told the undercoat also helps keep the dogs cooler in warm weather, something about air flow. Huskys are very active and it's not fair to keep them housed all day, unless everyone is out of the house. If you can commit to exercise them in the early mornings or after dark, when it's cooler, than maybe they'll adjust to inactivity in the mid-day hours.  They're beautiful, amazing dogs and I'm happy to hear you give them such consideration.","human_ref_B":"If your Husky is thoroughly groomed on a regular basis (every 4-6 weeks) and brushed weekly at home to maintain the undercoat  your dog should be fine. The undercoat will help regulate your dogs body temp and protect your dogs skin, however if the undercoat builds up it is more like having a winter jacket glued to your skin.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10659.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cilf8xb","c_root_id_B":"cil8urn","created_at_utc_A":1404184244,"created_at_utc_B":1404169609,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Also not a vet, but I own a husky in Australia. She's never had any issues. I make sure to always have a paddling pool in the shade for her in summer and keep our walks to the evenings after the sun has gone down. They will naturally grow a lighter coat in a hot climate but as others have said, never shave them.","human_ref_B":"I have often wondered this.  My situation is the opposite of this, we have chihuahuas and live in eastern Canada.  The winters here can reach as low as -30C (-22F).  It's worth noting that our dogs were bred and have lived their whole life in this climate so I would say they have adapted as best they can.  Since they are prone to frostbite and hypothermia winter time means shorter times outside and usually involves wearing a jacket in the colder months. I'm not a vet but in my experience dogs will adapt to the climate with the propper precautions from their owner. I would also love to hear a vets opinion on this","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14635.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cilf8xb","c_root_id_B":"cil8jfc","created_at_utc_A":1404184244,"created_at_utc_B":1404168936,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Also not a vet, but I own a husky in Australia. She's never had any issues. I make sure to always have a paddling pool in the shade for her in summer and keep our walks to the evenings after the sun has gone down. They will naturally grow a lighter coat in a hot climate but as others have said, never shave them.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but I've been told the undercoat also helps keep the dogs cooler in warm weather, something about air flow. Huskys are very active and it's not fair to keep them housed all day, unless everyone is out of the house. If you can commit to exercise them in the early mornings or after dark, when it's cooler, than maybe they'll adjust to inactivity in the mid-day hours.  They're beautiful, amazing dogs and I'm happy to hear you give them such consideration.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15308.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"29ia4a","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is owning a dog breed from a colder region (like a husky) while living in a hot\/humid environment fair? I have been living in Houston for 20 years and seen multiple northern breed dogs (mainly huskys) living in the area with their owners as well. I have always wanted to own a husky, however, I feel like it would not be fair to the dog because of the hot\/humid weather here in south Texas. Most owners justify having the dog by saying it's ok if you leave the A\/C on, however, this breed is more active than others, so I feel like keeping it inside all summer would still be unfair. I know it's a pet, but I don't want to keep an animal if it is going to be unhappy in its environment. Are these northern breed dogs uncomfortable in hot (above 95 degree) areas to the point it is unhealthy for them? Is it unethical to keep a husky in an area where summers can get in100 degree weather?","c_root_id_A":"cil8urn","c_root_id_B":"cil8jfc","created_at_utc_A":1404169609,"created_at_utc_B":1404168936,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I have often wondered this.  My situation is the opposite of this, we have chihuahuas and live in eastern Canada.  The winters here can reach as low as -30C (-22F).  It's worth noting that our dogs were bred and have lived their whole life in this climate so I would say they have adapted as best they can.  Since they are prone to frostbite and hypothermia winter time means shorter times outside and usually involves wearing a jacket in the colder months. I'm not a vet but in my experience dogs will adapt to the climate with the propper precautions from their owner. I would also love to hear a vets opinion on this","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but I've been told the undercoat also helps keep the dogs cooler in warm weather, something about air flow. Huskys are very active and it's not fair to keep them housed all day, unless everyone is out of the house. If you can commit to exercise them in the early mornings or after dark, when it's cooler, than maybe they'll adjust to inactivity in the mid-day hours.  They're beautiful, amazing dogs and I'm happy to hear you give them such consideration.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":673.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun8i5","c_root_id_B":"fcuna14","created_at_utc_A":1577984612,"created_at_utc_B":1577984637,"score_A":28,"score_B":65,"human_ref_A":"So if your cat is still worked up, give her 30 mins to chill out, where you're watching her and able to distract from licking. It can take 30 mins for a fractious cat to get outta kill mode.  Then you can try again. You may want to check out some pet stores-they often have varieties of ecollars, soft, hard, inflatable, and you may find one she tolerates better.  Or a try again with a onesie, they make ones specifically for post op pets, although I can't remember the name\/brand.   You may also want to ask your vet about prescribing sedatives to help her chill out. Your vet will know if this is appropriate for your cat or not.","human_ref_B":"Maybe try wrapping her in a towel, like a burrito, then once immobilized, place cone on her. She needs the cone to prevent her from licking the incision.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25.0,"score_ratio":2.3214285714}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcuna14","c_root_id_B":"fcun338","created_at_utc_A":1577984637,"created_at_utc_B":1577984526,"score_A":65,"score_B":19,"human_ref_A":"Maybe try wrapping her in a towel, like a burrito, then once immobilized, place cone on her. She needs the cone to prevent her from licking the incision.","human_ref_B":"Stuff a sock or pair of tights and make her a no-lick necklace, think those travel neck pillow style. Its squishy and not as daunting as the cone but should stop being able to reach her wound to lick.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":111.0,"score_ratio":3.4210526316}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcuna14","c_root_id_B":"fcun9uf","created_at_utc_A":1577984637,"created_at_utc_B":1577984634,"score_A":65,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Maybe try wrapping her in a towel, like a burrito, then once immobilized, place cone on her. She needs the cone to prevent her from licking the incision.","human_ref_B":"They normally have pet shirts that you can buy from the vet, its like a little babygrow with space around their butt so they can go to the toilet n stuff (:  And if not you can always buy a cheap babygrow and cut the butt off \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02 but it wont stay on as well as the pet shirt lol","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3.0,"score_ratio":16.25}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun338","c_root_id_B":"fcun8i5","created_at_utc_A":1577984526,"created_at_utc_B":1577984612,"score_A":19,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Stuff a sock or pair of tights and make her a no-lick necklace, think those travel neck pillow style. Its squishy and not as daunting as the cone but should stop being able to reach her wound to lick.","human_ref_B":"So if your cat is still worked up, give her 30 mins to chill out, where you're watching her and able to distract from licking. It can take 30 mins for a fractious cat to get outta kill mode.  Then you can try again. You may want to check out some pet stores-they often have varieties of ecollars, soft, hard, inflatable, and you may find one she tolerates better.  Or a try again with a onesie, they make ones specifically for post op pets, although I can't remember the name\/brand.   You may also want to ask your vet about prescribing sedatives to help her chill out. Your vet will know if this is appropriate for your cat or not.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":86.0,"score_ratio":1.4736842105}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun338","c_root_id_B":"fcunwpn","created_at_utc_A":1577984526,"created_at_utc_B":1577985002,"score_A":19,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Stuff a sock or pair of tights and make her a no-lick necklace, think those travel neck pillow style. Its squishy and not as daunting as the cone but should stop being able to reach her wound to lick.","human_ref_B":"Let her freak out then. It's less bad for her than licking the wound.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":476.0,"score_ratio":1.3684210526}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcunwpn","c_root_id_B":"fcun9uf","created_at_utc_A":1577985002,"created_at_utc_B":1577984634,"score_A":26,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Let her freak out then. It's less bad for her than licking the wound.","human_ref_B":"They normally have pet shirts that you can buy from the vet, its like a little babygrow with space around their butt so they can go to the toilet n stuff (:  And if not you can always buy a cheap babygrow and cut the butt off \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02 but it wont stay on as well as the pet shirt lol","labels":1,"seconds_difference":368.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun338","c_root_id_B":"fcv27rj","created_at_utc_A":1577984526,"created_at_utc_B":1577993119,"score_A":19,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Stuff a sock or pair of tights and make her a no-lick necklace, think those travel neck pillow style. Its squishy and not as daunting as the cone but should stop being able to reach her wound to lick.","human_ref_B":"Onesies. Baby Onesies do the same job as a cone.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8593.0,"score_ratio":1.2105263158}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcv27rj","c_root_id_B":"fcuoes8","created_at_utc_A":1577993119,"created_at_utc_B":1577985284,"score_A":23,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Onesies. Baby Onesies do the same job as a cone.","human_ref_B":"Get a baby onesie that snaps at the bottom. You'll need to cut a couple of holes in it but she shouldn't be able to escape it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7835.0,"score_ratio":3.8333333333}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcuxhkz","c_root_id_B":"fcv27rj","created_at_utc_A":1577990496,"created_at_utc_B":1577993119,"score_A":7,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"The first time wearing a cone is always scary, but it's better than the alternative \ud83d\ude2c  Do what others have said; burrito and then put the cone on. From there put her in a carrier \/ crate and wait for her to calm down. Eventually she will get that the cone isnt there to hurt her and that she will in fact be ok.","human_ref_B":"Onesies. Baby Onesies do the same job as a cone.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2623.0,"score_ratio":3.2857142857}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun9uf","c_root_id_B":"fcv27rj","created_at_utc_A":1577984634,"created_at_utc_B":1577993119,"score_A":4,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"They normally have pet shirts that you can buy from the vet, its like a little babygrow with space around their butt so they can go to the toilet n stuff (:  And if not you can always buy a cheap babygrow and cut the butt off \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02 but it wont stay on as well as the pet shirt lol","human_ref_B":"Onesies. Baby Onesies do the same job as a cone.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8485.0,"score_ratio":5.75}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcutpda","c_root_id_B":"fcv27rj","created_at_utc_A":1577988294,"created_at_utc_B":1577993119,"score_A":3,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Grab her by the scruff of her neck and put her in a towel burrito tight enough to immobilize her arms and legs but not to cause harm. Hold onto the scruff of her neck to keep control while you put the cone on.","human_ref_B":"Onesies. Baby Onesies do the same job as a cone.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4825.0,"score_ratio":7.6666666667}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcuxhkz","c_root_id_B":"fcuoes8","created_at_utc_A":1577990496,"created_at_utc_B":1577985284,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"The first time wearing a cone is always scary, but it's better than the alternative \ud83d\ude2c  Do what others have said; burrito and then put the cone on. From there put her in a carrier \/ crate and wait for her to calm down. Eventually she will get that the cone isnt there to hurt her and that she will in fact be ok.","human_ref_B":"Get a baby onesie that snaps at the bottom. You'll need to cut a couple of holes in it but she shouldn't be able to escape it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5212.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun9uf","c_root_id_B":"fcuoes8","created_at_utc_A":1577984634,"created_at_utc_B":1577985284,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"They normally have pet shirts that you can buy from the vet, its like a little babygrow with space around their butt so they can go to the toilet n stuff (:  And if not you can always buy a cheap babygrow and cut the butt off \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02 but it wont stay on as well as the pet shirt lol","human_ref_B":"Get a baby onesie that snaps at the bottom. You'll need to cut a couple of holes in it but she shouldn't be able to escape it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":650.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcun9uf","c_root_id_B":"fcuxhkz","created_at_utc_A":1577984634,"created_at_utc_B":1577990496,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"They normally have pet shirts that you can buy from the vet, its like a little babygrow with space around their butt so they can go to the toilet n stuff (:  And if not you can always buy a cheap babygrow and cut the butt off \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02 but it wont stay on as well as the pet shirt lol","human_ref_B":"The first time wearing a cone is always scary, but it's better than the alternative \ud83d\ude2c  Do what others have said; burrito and then put the cone on. From there put her in a carrier \/ crate and wait for her to calm down. Eventually she will get that the cone isnt there to hurt her and that she will in fact be ok.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5862.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"eizwhz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"8 month old kitten spayed today. Licking wounds but can\u2019t get the cone on her as she freaks out. Advice please! As per the title, she just goes mad when we try and get the cone that the vet gave us on her. Flails, growls, scratches... I don\u2019t want to be too rough as she only had the procedure this morning, so I just don\u2019t know what to do.  I called the vet and they said that we have to try and get it on her, or use a modified baby onesie. Trouble is, it\u2019s just not possible to get anything on her in her current aggressive state without really being rough, and I\u2019m concerned that will do some serious internal damage.   Does anyone have an advice at all please?!","c_root_id_A":"fcutpda","c_root_id_B":"fcuxhkz","created_at_utc_A":1577988294,"created_at_utc_B":1577990496,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Grab her by the scruff of her neck and put her in a towel burrito tight enough to immobilize her arms and legs but not to cause harm. Hold onto the scruff of her neck to keep control while you put the cone on.","human_ref_B":"The first time wearing a cone is always scary, but it's better than the alternative \ud83d\ude2c  Do what others have said; burrito and then put the cone on. From there put her in a carrier \/ crate and wait for her to calm down. Eventually she will get that the cone isnt there to hurt her and that she will in fact be ok.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2202.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rtblqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Suggestions for what may have caused the sudden death of my two kittens just 3 days apart So, we adopted 2 kittens around Halloween from a local rescue. A female Tortie, and a male ginger. They were from different litters, but about the same age, and caught as part of a trapping scheme with the rescue. They were the only kittens caught from the litters, and their mother's weren't caught, however they were caught at a weaned age, but younger than 8 weeks old. They were raised and kept together by a volunteer of the rescue until old enough for adopting.   We have 7 other cats. None of these are showing any signs of illness beyond conditions we're aware they have, however we're very on edge at the moment with the slightest thing.   2 of the cats are 10 years old, male, neutered. I got them from a pet shop at 12 weeks old. (one has hypercalcemia which he is on medication for).  1 is 5 years old, female, neutered. Got her at 2 years old when I saw someone post her on Facebook with her 5, 4 week old kittens as \"someone come and get them\". We took them in, and rehomed 4 of her kittens when they were 10 weeks old to people we personally know. 1 is 3 year old male, neutered. Son of the female above, from that litter. 2 are 5 year old, male, neutered. Litter mates. We adopted these from the same rescue as the kittens this post is about. 1 is female, 20 months, neutered. Again, from the same rescue, though we've card for her since she was 4 days old, as we used to Foster for this rescue so took in her mum and littermates until they were old enough for adoption.  All our cats are strictly indoor only. We're UK based.   The kittens were adopted 2 days apart. We got the ginger male on 29th October, and met the Tortie female whilst viewing the ginger. She was due to have someone come to view her, however they never showed up, so we got a call in happen saying she was available if we wanted to adopt her, too (as she had basically claimed us when we were there). The tortie has her first injection about 2 weeks ago. The ginger didn't as he had an eye infection that we had to treat first, which he was having eye drops for.   On 28th December, at 06:30, we arrived home from work to discover the tortie lying on the stairs, panting, a puddle of vomit all around her face, and she had defected where she was. We rang the emergency vets and rushed her there as quick as possible. As soon as the vet arrived, they put her on oxygen, checked her over, and said they can't find anything blocking her air waves. They said it might be that she'll need PTS, but there's a slim chance an xray might show somethinf, but it would cost a fair price. We decided that if there was a chance, we want to do so we can, and requested the xray. We left to await a call. A few hours later, the vet called to inform us they can't find anything, and she's basically brain dead. She was still gag breathing, and her heart still going, but nothing else was working. You could literally put your finger right to her eye with no response, so it was decided she was best to be PTS, as although she wasn't feeling anything, she was going to go anyway, and it wasn't fair to keep her suffering. We were obviously devistated. The vet says they have no idea what the issue was, but given the state she was in and the brain damage she suffered, they believed it was either she had suffered a seizure, or had a rare illness and suffered toxoplasmosis.  We brought her home and had her buried in a pet cemetary, and arranged to have our other kitten go to the vets 2 days later (when they were open) to be checked over, have blood tests for this condition (which they said would only affect kittens and was unlikely to pass from cat to cat and it's usually passed from mother to kittens). The vets were happy with how he looked, took the bloods (which they said would take a week to get results), and gave him his first vaccine.  That night at 22:30, I heard a meowing coming from the cats room. I went in, to find the ginger kitten panting. He hissed at me, as he usually did when we first went towards him as he was still a bit shy. I picked him up, and shouted for my partner to call the emergency vets. Writhin 2 minutes, he also went into a floppy state, panting and unable to stand or anything, defecating over himself. We rushed him to the vets, and waited over half an hour for the vet to turn up (during this time, a veterinary nurse who was on site had taken him in to try and help). The vet turned up (a different vet from the day before, they take it in Torness being \"on call\"), went in, then came out about a minute later to let us know we had lost him, too.  It was scary how quick he went down. We have a pet cam, and my partner had taken photos of him casually walking around the landing literally 2 minutes before I found him panting in their room. Yet again, the vets said they don't know what caused it. They said they believe it's something they picked up from when they were at the rescue, but we said they weren't at the actual rescue, but rather a fosterers house, they weren't from the same litter, and we'd had them 8 weeks. They said they could try to book an autopsy if we wanted, but they couldn't guarantee it would be possible due to the time of year, and we wouldn't be able to get his body back. We decided to take him home to book him in for burial next to his \"sister\", and we booked our other 7 cats in for check ups and blood tests the next morning. When we got to the vets, the vet on duty then said it was a waste of money to have these tests done on what are seemingly healthy adults, as the expected condition was something that adult cats shouldn't face problems with (after reading up the information about what had happened to the ginger) and that were best saving our money for any future kittens that night occur so we can put our resources into that. So, they just had a check over except for the one with hypercalcimia, who had blood tests done to check his calcium levels. They called us back later with the results, and nothing was out of the ordinary or concerning. 2 of the cats have early gingivitis, not uncommon in cats, and nothing that needs urgent treatment and they would treat in the new year. 2 had mild heart murmurs, which again didn't give rise to concern and 1 we knew about anyway, and the one with hypercalcemia still had high calcium levels, and high readings from his kidneys, which is in all likelyhood related to the high calcium levels, so he is on new tablets and due for now blood tests in another month.   About 5pm, the cat with hypercalcemia who had the blood tests done had a bout of diarrhoea, and threw up some very liquid vomit whilst my parter had him in the bathroom cleaning up his rear end (as it was a little messy in his fur). We called the emergency vets in a panic, checking their opinion on if we'd need to take him in (who turned out to be the same get that had seen all 7 cats earlier). They said no, and it's probably just a bit of a reaction to the stress of being taken to the vets and having blood taken, and as long as he sends fine in him self otherwise, no need to worry unless it continues, which, if it wasn't for the situations leading up to this, is how I'd have felt as I know stress can cause a reaction like that, but as I said, we're on edge. We also mentioned that we'd noticed with the kitten that his eyes were leaking a red liquid and his nose had a froth coming out and over it, which we didn't witness with the Torti when she passed, and he said that we had brought the ginger in with breathing difficulties, so it's not unusual for this from cats who had suffered a blockage in their lungs... Which again confused us, because that would mean that the kittens had different issues, despite similar symptoms and outcomes (as the Torti had been checked and her Airways and Kings were clear)...though I don't know if the fact one had to be PTS and the other passed naturally caused any difference in how their bodies reacted after death.   We are on edge. We can't think of ANYTHING that has changed. Given how they both went, we thought maybe they got some kind of poisoning, but they were timid, and those most likely to eat something suspicious are currently fine. We don't have lillies in the house, at all. The only flowers we DO have, are in a room the cats are not allowed in. We have chickens and ducks currently in a dog crate in our main room, as we had a fox get into the run (which we thankfully detected and scared away before he got any of them), and we've brought them in to keep then safe until we can get a new run. But again, the cats aren't allowed in this room without us so we know what they're doing. We've stopped having them in the bedroom with us, incase there's something in there we're not noticing, and have instead set up some duvets on the landing so we can sleep out there with them and keep a close eye on them. When we got back from taking the ginger to the vet, we fully emptied all their litter trays and disinfected them (this is done frequently, but obviously we did it before it's next due the full clean incase of anything, as pet we don't issued do this at 11 at night). We hoovered their bedroom floor, mopped it fully with disinfectant, then again 2 more times with just water to remove any disinfectant traces, before we allowed them back into their room (again, it's usually cleaned frequently anyway, but we wanted to make sure it was cleaned again after losing the other one). We also removed all their toys except their exercise wheel and cat tree.   We're devistated, confused, and really concerned. We're worried that there's something that's taking them down, and worried it'll effect the others, and the kittens have gone first because they're the youngest and smallest. We really don't know what to do and don't want to lose anyone else.  We've not changed their food, not changed cleaning products we use, not started using any new sprays or anything.  We're petrified, several thousand \u00a3 lost (which means we've now had to cancel our wedding we were planning for October as we've now no funds left, but I will ALWAYS put my pets before money), devistated at our 2 kittens going, and don't know what to do or what to look out for.  Please, does anyone have any suggestions of what could be the cause, that we could look out for and get the others tested for if needed? We can't face losing anyone else, losing 1 was bad enough, 2 has broken us, I don't think we'd cope if we lost anyone else.","c_root_id_A":"hqs1qqa","c_root_id_B":"hqsa6fd","created_at_utc_A":1641017705,"created_at_utc_B":1641023828,"score_A":16,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Have you verified that there are no recalls on their food?","human_ref_B":"No one here could tell you what was wrong, per the sub rules. However, you could certainly reach back out to the emergency vet group for their records and to ask these questions.   I am so, so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6123.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"c9i37b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"My dog almost attacked myself as well as the vet during his visit. Is this a \u201cred flag\u201d sign that we need to look out for? Breed: Belgian Malinois\/German Shepherd  Age: 18 months  Weight: 50 pounds  Sex: Male (still intact)  Health problems: none  Adopted him from his previous owner 2 weeks ago.  We had a vet come to our house for a home visit because we have worked with them in the past. We just needed a simple vet visit to get his shots updated, and in a few weeks we will have him neutered. He normally does very well with others, never shows signs of aggression towards people or animals, and just normally has a ton of energy.   Today when the vet came inside, everything went well at first. When the vet started to check him out, he got a little feisty and almost tried to bite him. We grabbed a muzzle and I feel it almost made things worse, but we didn\u2019t want him biting anyone so we had to do it. He started flopping around and barking and almost managed to pull his muzzle off. They finished most of his vaccines and said they were unable to do a blood draw for heart worms, due to him not cooperating.   Is this a red flag for us? My fianc\u00e9 believes we need to get rid of him because she thinks this type of behavior will only get worse and can\u2019t be trained out of him. But he really does do well with others and is normally extremely friendly and loves to play. She just thinks he needs to go and I\u2019m not sure how to convince her otherwise.   TL;DR: my fianc\u00e9 thinks we need to get rid of our dog because he was aggressive towards us and the vet and thinks it can\u2019t be trained out of him.","c_root_id_A":"esz2gd7","c_root_id_B":"esz0vxf","created_at_utc_A":1562353962,"created_at_utc_B":1562353163,"score_A":24,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"This is very serious, and you need to look into a board-certified veterinary behaviorist. You can find one near you using this site.","human_ref_B":"You could ask your vet to recommend an animal behaviorist. They may be able to come up with a training plan that can work with your pet!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":799.0,"score_ratio":3.4285714286}
{"post_id":"c9i37b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"My dog almost attacked myself as well as the vet during his visit. Is this a \u201cred flag\u201d sign that we need to look out for? Breed: Belgian Malinois\/German Shepherd  Age: 18 months  Weight: 50 pounds  Sex: Male (still intact)  Health problems: none  Adopted him from his previous owner 2 weeks ago.  We had a vet come to our house for a home visit because we have worked with them in the past. We just needed a simple vet visit to get his shots updated, and in a few weeks we will have him neutered. He normally does very well with others, never shows signs of aggression towards people or animals, and just normally has a ton of energy.   Today when the vet came inside, everything went well at first. When the vet started to check him out, he got a little feisty and almost tried to bite him. We grabbed a muzzle and I feel it almost made things worse, but we didn\u2019t want him biting anyone so we had to do it. He started flopping around and barking and almost managed to pull his muzzle off. They finished most of his vaccines and said they were unable to do a blood draw for heart worms, due to him not cooperating.   Is this a red flag for us? My fianc\u00e9 believes we need to get rid of him because she thinks this type of behavior will only get worse and can\u2019t be trained out of him. But he really does do well with others and is normally extremely friendly and loves to play. She just thinks he needs to go and I\u2019m not sure how to convince her otherwise.   TL;DR: my fianc\u00e9 thinks we need to get rid of our dog because he was aggressive towards us and the vet and thinks it can\u2019t be trained out of him.","c_root_id_A":"esz2gd7","c_root_id_B":"esyoz2s","created_at_utc_A":1562353962,"created_at_utc_B":1562346825,"score_A":24,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is very serious, and you need to look into a board-certified veterinary behaviorist. You can find one near you using this site.","human_ref_B":"How much of his history do you know?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7137.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"c9i37b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"My dog almost attacked myself as well as the vet during his visit. Is this a \u201cred flag\u201d sign that we need to look out for? Breed: Belgian Malinois\/German Shepherd  Age: 18 months  Weight: 50 pounds  Sex: Male (still intact)  Health problems: none  Adopted him from his previous owner 2 weeks ago.  We had a vet come to our house for a home visit because we have worked with them in the past. We just needed a simple vet visit to get his shots updated, and in a few weeks we will have him neutered. He normally does very well with others, never shows signs of aggression towards people or animals, and just normally has a ton of energy.   Today when the vet came inside, everything went well at first. When the vet started to check him out, he got a little feisty and almost tried to bite him. We grabbed a muzzle and I feel it almost made things worse, but we didn\u2019t want him biting anyone so we had to do it. He started flopping around and barking and almost managed to pull his muzzle off. They finished most of his vaccines and said they were unable to do a blood draw for heart worms, due to him not cooperating.   Is this a red flag for us? My fianc\u00e9 believes we need to get rid of him because she thinks this type of behavior will only get worse and can\u2019t be trained out of him. But he really does do well with others and is normally extremely friendly and loves to play. She just thinks he needs to go and I\u2019m not sure how to convince her otherwise.   TL;DR: my fianc\u00e9 thinks we need to get rid of our dog because he was aggressive towards us and the vet and thinks it can\u2019t be trained out of him.","c_root_id_A":"esz0vxf","c_root_id_B":"esyoz2s","created_at_utc_A":1562353163,"created_at_utc_B":1562346825,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You could ask your vet to recommend an animal behaviorist. They may be able to come up with a training plan that can work with your pet!","human_ref_B":"How much of his history do you know?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6338.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpxwh1t","c_root_id_B":"cpxwxi5","created_at_utc_A":1427903619,"created_at_utc_B":1427904386,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My cat gets Royal Canin. Just the kitten-sterilised at the moment, will change to Fit soon. The kibble is good for his teeth, but I also like to treat him with some wet food once in a while (sunday treat). All the kitties kill for that kind of food!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet myself, just the receptionist, but I know what my vets feed their dogs. One feeds ProPlan and the other has her dogs on the Hills Metabolic. They both recommend ProPlan, Royal Canin and Hills.  I currently have my dog on the Royal Canin Joint Support and my bratty cat on the Royal Canin Spayed\/Neutered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":767.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpxwh1t","c_root_id_B":"cpxx3qz","created_at_utc_A":1427903619,"created_at_utc_B":1427904683,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My cat gets Royal Canin. Just the kitten-sterilised at the moment, will change to Fit soon. The kibble is good for his teeth, but I also like to treat him with some wet food once in a while (sunday treat). All the kitties kill for that kind of food!","human_ref_B":"My dog eats Purina ProPlan dry and wet. My kitten eats Royal Canin kitten, and my senior (almost toothless) cat eats Hill's adult indoor formula made soggy in warm water. Both cats also get some Fancy Feast wet food, which I know would make a lot of my clients blanch.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1064.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpxwh1t","c_root_id_B":"cpy9jsr","created_at_utc_A":1427903619,"created_at_utc_B":1427925883,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My cat gets Royal Canin. Just the kitten-sterilised at the moment, will change to Fit soon. The kibble is good for his teeth, but I also like to treat him with some wet food once in a while (sunday treat). All the kitties kill for that kind of food!","human_ref_B":"I am not a vet, but my vet uses the brand Fromm for her animals. I decided to use that as well as it's made locally and I like that idea.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22264.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpy9jsr","c_root_id_B":"cpxy637","created_at_utc_A":1427925883,"created_at_utc_B":1427906563,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet, but my vet uses the brand Fromm for her animals. I decided to use that as well as it's made locally and I like that idea.","human_ref_B":"I do Science Diet Indoor Adult formula, because that's what the animal shelter was feeding my cat and when I tried to switch to Purina, he had a horrible allergic reaction. So that's never, ever, changing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19320.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpy9jsr","c_root_id_B":"cpy0l6t","created_at_utc_A":1427925883,"created_at_utc_B":1427910740,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I am not a vet, but my vet uses the brand Fromm for her animals. I decided to use that as well as it's made locally and I like that idea.","human_ref_B":"I'm basically echoing what the other comments here generally seem to be saying, but the veterinary nutritionists at my school like Hill's, Purina, and Royal Canin. I personally feed my 2 cats a combination of Hill's t\/d (prescription dental diet) and any Purina ProPlan or Hill's Science Diet adult wet food that is fish-flavored (because the picky little critters have decided they don't like chicken or turkey or beef anymore).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15143.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpy9ry2","c_root_id_B":"cpxwh1t","created_at_utc_A":1427926301,"created_at_utc_B":1427903619,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My dogs are on Science Diet Toy and Small Breed Senior.  They were on the light version but since the youngest of the two turned 7 last year, I switched them to the Senior formula.    The oldest cat is on Royal Canin SO Moderate Calorie dry exclusively.  We caught it before the stone could actually form (lots of \"sludge\" in the bladder.  Urine looked like rabbit pee.)  and she has been doing great on it.  Youngest two are on Science Diet Perfect Weight.  One is a nightmare of a garbage diving freak and the other is perfect but I am lazy so keeping them on the same food helps.  All the animals are offered treats of steamed or raw veggies and greens, yes even the cats.  Commercial treats are not allowed but the occasional (and in once to twice a year) handful of cheerios tossed into the kitchen floor is entertaining.   Why do I feed Hill's and Royal Canin?  Well its not cause of the free wet food lid I got for keeping a couple of cans of I\/D on hand.  I like stuff with actual research behind it.  Until the \"deluxe\" brands can show me the research I will continue to regard them as nothing more than a passing fad.","human_ref_B":"My cat gets Royal Canin. Just the kitten-sterilised at the moment, will change to Fit soon. The kibble is good for his teeth, but I also like to treat him with some wet food once in a while (sunday treat). All the kitties kill for that kind of food!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22682.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpy9ry2","c_root_id_B":"cpxy637","created_at_utc_A":1427926301,"created_at_utc_B":1427906563,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My dogs are on Science Diet Toy and Small Breed Senior.  They were on the light version but since the youngest of the two turned 7 last year, I switched them to the Senior formula.    The oldest cat is on Royal Canin SO Moderate Calorie dry exclusively.  We caught it before the stone could actually form (lots of \"sludge\" in the bladder.  Urine looked like rabbit pee.)  and she has been doing great on it.  Youngest two are on Science Diet Perfect Weight.  One is a nightmare of a garbage diving freak and the other is perfect but I am lazy so keeping them on the same food helps.  All the animals are offered treats of steamed or raw veggies and greens, yes even the cats.  Commercial treats are not allowed but the occasional (and in once to twice a year) handful of cheerios tossed into the kitchen floor is entertaining.   Why do I feed Hill's and Royal Canin?  Well its not cause of the free wet food lid I got for keeping a couple of cans of I\/D on hand.  I like stuff with actual research behind it.  Until the \"deluxe\" brands can show me the research I will continue to regard them as nothing more than a passing fad.","human_ref_B":"I do Science Diet Indoor Adult formula, because that's what the animal shelter was feeding my cat and when I tried to switch to Purina, he had a horrible allergic reaction. So that's never, ever, changing.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19738.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3121bd","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: What do you feed your pets? Species:Cat  Age:10  Sex\/Neuter status: female\/fixed  Breed: ....cat?   Body weight: 8ish  History: Recently adopted by me, used to be my grandma's, reasonably healthy, had multiple teeth pulled a few years back, but overall quite active.   This is a question for me, but also for the vets graciously donating their free time to answer questions. I've read a lot of conflicting info about cat nutrition from vets, from pet nutritionists, from pet owners who think they know it all, and from the companies that make pet food. Vets of reddit: **what do you feed your pets**?  My new cat had been raised on commercial grocery store kibble (friskies\/meow mix) and because of that, it's what she likes. I want to feed her something healthier with more meat and less junk, but she won't take to it. **How bad is grocery store kibble for a cat**? I know some people say kibble is bad for cats in general because they have a low thirst instinct. However, I'm not concerned about her hydration levels, she drinks water often... not a worrying amount, she just seems to like water.   In conclusion, can you help me sort through all the conflicting info online? As a vet, what do you feed your pet??","c_root_id_A":"cpy9ry2","c_root_id_B":"cpy0l6t","created_at_utc_A":1427926301,"created_at_utc_B":1427910740,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"My dogs are on Science Diet Toy and Small Breed Senior.  They were on the light version but since the youngest of the two turned 7 last year, I switched them to the Senior formula.    The oldest cat is on Royal Canin SO Moderate Calorie dry exclusively.  We caught it before the stone could actually form (lots of \"sludge\" in the bladder.  Urine looked like rabbit pee.)  and she has been doing great on it.  Youngest two are on Science Diet Perfect Weight.  One is a nightmare of a garbage diving freak and the other is perfect but I am lazy so keeping them on the same food helps.  All the animals are offered treats of steamed or raw veggies and greens, yes even the cats.  Commercial treats are not allowed but the occasional (and in once to twice a year) handful of cheerios tossed into the kitchen floor is entertaining.   Why do I feed Hill's and Royal Canin?  Well its not cause of the free wet food lid I got for keeping a couple of cans of I\/D on hand.  I like stuff with actual research behind it.  Until the \"deluxe\" brands can show me the research I will continue to regard them as nothing more than a passing fad.","human_ref_B":"I'm basically echoing what the other comments here generally seem to be saying, but the veterinary nutritionists at my school like Hill's, Purina, and Royal Canin. I personally feed my 2 cats a combination of Hill's t\/d (prescription dental diet) and any Purina ProPlan or Hill's Science Diet adult wet food that is fish-flavored (because the picky little critters have decided they don't like chicken or turkey or beef anymore).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15561.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt67vbm","c_root_id_B":"dt6fzwx","created_at_utc_A":1516811845,"created_at_utc_B":1516819510,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"RC Fibre Responsive - it's the only food my cat can eat because it makes his poo so rubbery that it can actually pass through his crushed pelvis.","human_ref_B":"Purina pro-plan wet primarily for my older man, purina indoor weight management for slightly pudgy girl.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7665.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt6fzwx","c_root_id_B":"dt6b2o9","created_at_utc_A":1516819510,"created_at_utc_B":1516814882,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Purina pro-plan wet primarily for my older man, purina indoor weight management for slightly pudgy girl.","human_ref_B":"I feed Hill\u2019s Perfect Weight feline dry https:\/\/www.hillspet.com\/cat-food\/sd-feline-adult-perfect-weight-dry   and Friskies shreds wet https:\/\/www.friskies.com\/products\/wet-cat-food\/shreds\/","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4628.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt6fzwx","c_root_id_B":"dt60as7","created_at_utc_A":1516819510,"created_at_utc_B":1516804086,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Purina pro-plan wet primarily for my older man, purina indoor weight management for slightly pudgy girl.","human_ref_B":"My kitty with a history of urethral obstruction is on Purina UR canned + dry","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15424.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt60as7","c_root_id_B":"dt67vbm","created_at_utc_A":1516804086,"created_at_utc_B":1516811845,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My kitty with a history of urethral obstruction is on Purina UR canned + dry","human_ref_B":"RC Fibre Responsive - it's the only food my cat can eat because it makes his poo so rubbery that it can actually pass through his crushed pelvis.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7759.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt6b2o9","c_root_id_B":"dt60as7","created_at_utc_A":1516814882,"created_at_utc_B":1516804086,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I feed Hill\u2019s Perfect Weight feline dry https:\/\/www.hillspet.com\/cat-food\/sd-feline-adult-perfect-weight-dry   and Friskies shreds wet https:\/\/www.friskies.com\/products\/wet-cat-food\/shreds\/","human_ref_B":"My kitty with a history of urethral obstruction is on Purina UR canned + dry","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10796.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"7smv59","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Vets who have cats - what food do you feed them??","c_root_id_A":"dt74lo2","c_root_id_B":"dt60as7","created_at_utc_A":1516844352,"created_at_utc_B":1516804086,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Purina Pro Plan dry in the morning, canned (usually also proplan, occasionally whatever's on sale ha) in the evening.","human_ref_B":"My kitty with a history of urethral obstruction is on Purina UR canned + dry","labels":1,"seconds_difference":40266.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"creurjg","c_root_id_B":"crer4io","created_at_utc_A":1432092873,"created_at_utc_B":1432086205,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"My cystitis cat eats Royal Canin s\/o. The other cats get Hill's science diet canned (mature adult) and a grain free dry (Merrick). My dogs get science diet Ideal Balance.  I don't get any of their food for free or at a discount.  I don't even get it from work except for the Rx diet. I see quite a few people are feeding Purina and we did for a while (no issues) but have switched to science diet because I loathe Nestle.","human_ref_B":"Although I'm not a vet I have been raising hunting dogs (coonhounds) since I was a kid. The best I've found is Purina Pro and just plain old Purina dog chow. I feed my coonhound Purina Pro during his most active times, usually late summer through spring. During the hot summer months when he's not as active I switch him over to just plain Purina dog chow so he doesn't gain to much weight. He's 13 years old now and can keep up with any coonhound half his age.   I've seen a lot of different hunters through the years that feed their dogs all kinds a different and sometimes strange diets and none of their dogs where any healthier and sometimes not even close to being as healthy as my dogs.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6668.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"crer6c8","c_root_id_B":"creurjg","created_at_utc_A":1432086295,"created_at_utc_B":1432092873,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Except for when my dogs have needed prescription diets, I go with Purina, too.","human_ref_B":"My cystitis cat eats Royal Canin s\/o. The other cats get Hill's science diet canned (mature adult) and a grain free dry (Merrick). My dogs get science diet Ideal Balance.  I don't get any of their food for free or at a discount.  I don't even get it from work except for the Rx diet. I see quite a few people are feeding Purina and we did for a while (no issues) but have switched to science diet because I loathe Nestle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6578.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"creurjg","c_root_id_B":"creswa1","created_at_utc_A":1432092873,"created_at_utc_B":1432089315,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"My cystitis cat eats Royal Canin s\/o. The other cats get Hill's science diet canned (mature adult) and a grain free dry (Merrick). My dogs get science diet Ideal Balance.  I don't get any of their food for free or at a discount.  I don't even get it from work except for the Rx diet. I see quite a few people are feeding Purina and we did for a while (no issues) but have switched to science diet because I loathe Nestle.","human_ref_B":"Golden retriever, so the Purina Pro Plan sensitive skin and stomach (Salmon based) is amazing for him in every way.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3558.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"creu2xs","c_root_id_B":"creurjg","created_at_utc_A":1432091585,"created_at_utc_B":1432092873,"score_A":3,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Hill's Prescription d\/d venison & potato","human_ref_B":"My cystitis cat eats Royal Canin s\/o. The other cats get Hill's science diet canned (mature adult) and a grain free dry (Merrick). My dogs get science diet Ideal Balance.  I don't get any of their food for free or at a discount.  I don't even get it from work except for the Rx diet. I see quite a few people are feeding Purina and we did for a while (no issues) but have switched to science diet because I loathe Nestle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1288.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"creswa1","c_root_id_B":"crexc0k","created_at_utc_A":1432089315,"created_at_utc_B":1432098457,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Golden retriever, so the Purina Pro Plan sensitive skin and stomach (Salmon based) is amazing for him in every way.","human_ref_B":"I go between Hill's, Royal Canin and Purina.  I've tried several others and they didn't look good on them and didn't like the flavor as well.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9142.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"36k678","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"What do you guys at AskVet feed your own dogs? [I hope this question is ok, if not mods please remove it]  Our old family dog had a lot of allergies and health problems that I now think weren't helped by her diet. Before my partner and I got our new puppy 4 months ago I did a lot of research (OK, Googling! :-)) about dog nutrition and the best diet to feed her, as I want her to lead a long and healthy life. And I found a lot of contradictory information: \"processed kibble or canned food is nutritionally balanced and all your dog needs\",\"processed dog food is full of crappy ingredients and animal byproducts and potentially contaminated\" \"dogs are carnivores\",\"dogs are omnivores\",\"dogs are 99% wolf\" (well, we are technically 99% chimp, so should we eat what chimps eat? ;)) \"dogs should eat home cooked food\" \"dogs  should eat raw mince or BARF, cooking destroys nutrition\",\"raw or home cooked diets will be nutritionally unbalanced\",\"dogs should eat meaty bones\" \"bones are dangerous and could cause them to choke and break teeth\" etc etc, you get the idea!   So I've been lurking on this sub for the past couple of days, and have noticed that you guys seem to be a really knowledgable bunch of people! So I wanted to take a poll of sorts. What do you, vets and other animal health professionals of AskVet, feed your own dogs? Do you *really* feed your own animals that packaged kibble or do your practices have just deals with the companies (Hills, Eukanuba, Royal Canin etc etc) where you're paid to sell and promote it? Are there  *really* health benefits or potential nutritional deficiencies to feeding a BARF type diet? I'm asking based on an otherwise healthy dog, with no specific health conditions or allergies, that I understand would need a special diet.","c_root_id_A":"crexc0k","c_root_id_B":"creu2xs","created_at_utc_A":1432098457,"created_at_utc_B":1432091585,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I go between Hill's, Royal Canin and Purina.  I've tried several others and they didn't look good on them and didn't like the flavor as well.","human_ref_B":"Hill's Prescription d\/d venison & potato","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6872.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"t5slpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Is it safe to feed my Cat prescription cat food? So a friend of mine gave me their supply of Hill's prescription diet k\/d kidney care cat food since they no longer need it. Is it safe to feed to my 4 yr old cat who doesn't need prescription diet food? Is there medicine in this food?  https:\/\/www.chewy.com\/hills-prescription-diet-kd-kidney\/dp\/54567","c_root_id_A":"hz6znme","c_root_id_B":"hz6x4us","created_at_utc_A":1646321994,"created_at_utc_B":1646320985,"score_A":179,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Nope! Please consider donating the cans to your local shelter. There's no medicine in the food per se but it is not nutritionally balanced for a healthy cat without kidney disease.","human_ref_B":"K\/D is not appropriate for a normal cat, no.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1009.0,"score_ratio":3.9777777778}
{"post_id":"t5slpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Is it safe to feed my Cat prescription cat food? So a friend of mine gave me their supply of Hill's prescription diet k\/d kidney care cat food since they no longer need it. Is it safe to feed to my 4 yr old cat who doesn't need prescription diet food? Is there medicine in this food?  https:\/\/www.chewy.com\/hills-prescription-diet-kd-kidney\/dp\/54567","c_root_id_A":"hz6x4us","c_root_id_B":"hz793oh","created_at_utc_A":1646320985,"created_at_utc_B":1646325726,"score_A":45,"score_B":77,"human_ref_A":"K\/D is not appropriate for a normal cat, no.","human_ref_B":"Better at a shelter for a kitty that has kidney disease.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4741.0,"score_ratio":1.7111111111}
{"post_id":"t5slpb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Is it safe to feed my Cat prescription cat food? So a friend of mine gave me their supply of Hill's prescription diet k\/d kidney care cat food since they no longer need it. Is it safe to feed to my 4 yr old cat who doesn't need prescription diet food? Is there medicine in this food?  https:\/\/www.chewy.com\/hills-prescription-diet-kd-kidney\/dp\/54567","c_root_id_A":"hz793oh","c_root_id_B":"hz76w06","created_at_utc_A":1646325726,"created_at_utc_B":1646324878,"score_A":77,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Better at a shelter for a kitty that has kidney disease.","human_ref_B":"Donate it!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":848.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"dowaqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"How do I get a pregnant stray cat to the vet? I have been feeding a stray cat for a little over three months. She comes to eat twice a day and can be found lounging by the front door at all hours. She will not come in the house nor have I tried to force her. She lets me pet her while she is eating. Also, she is comfortable enough to expose her belly to me. She enjoys playfully hunting my hand. However, I have never picked her up before. I am pretty sure she is pregnant from my google research. She eats a lot more than the first month I started feeding her. Her abdomen is enlarged. She was never really vocal apart from purring but is now super vocal. I want to get her in to a vet but I am unsure how to do this. I have never had a cat and come from a dog family so my parents are of no help. I switched her to kitten food because I read that was good for pregnant cats. She is a lovely cat and I just want to make sure she is healthy. I will post some photos in the comments. Sorry for the long post!  Also, her name is Sophie","c_root_id_A":"f5rm2jq","c_root_id_B":"f5r3k1q","created_at_utc_A":1572397541,"created_at_utc_B":1572387502,"score_A":39,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"First, just simple see if you can pick her up just see what happens. If you can then you can just get a cat carrier and take her like any normal cat.  You have some options, do you intend to let her have the kittens? Cat abortions are a thing, not saying I recommend this but they are. Some vets won't do them if the animal is too far along.  If you intend to let her have the kittens like everyone else said a giant bin ( lots of blankets water and food) to give birth in would be a good idea or let her move into your families garage if you have one. You want to get her tested for FELV\/FIV if she is negative then ALL the kittens will be negative and you don't need to spend a ton of money testing them separate. Will make it much easier for you or the shelter to adopt them out. Kitten food is the perfect choice for a pregnant cat.","human_ref_B":"A humane trap like the ones to catch opossums and raccoons! You would put some food in the back and then set the trap, and when kitty goes in it shuts. Many local humane shelters in the USA will let people borrow them to trap cats as well, at least in the case of TNR.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10039.0,"score_ratio":1.1142857143}
{"post_id":"dowaqb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"How do I get a pregnant stray cat to the vet? I have been feeding a stray cat for a little over three months. She comes to eat twice a day and can be found lounging by the front door at all hours. She will not come in the house nor have I tried to force her. She lets me pet her while she is eating. Also, she is comfortable enough to expose her belly to me. She enjoys playfully hunting my hand. However, I have never picked her up before. I am pretty sure she is pregnant from my google research. She eats a lot more than the first month I started feeding her. Her abdomen is enlarged. She was never really vocal apart from purring but is now super vocal. I want to get her in to a vet but I am unsure how to do this. I have never had a cat and come from a dog family so my parents are of no help. I switched her to kitten food because I read that was good for pregnant cats. She is a lovely cat and I just want to make sure she is healthy. I will post some photos in the comments. Sorry for the long post!  Also, her name is Sophie","c_root_id_A":"f5rm2jq","c_root_id_B":"f5r5icn","created_at_utc_A":1572397541,"created_at_utc_B":1572388471,"score_A":39,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"First, just simple see if you can pick her up just see what happens. If you can then you can just get a cat carrier and take her like any normal cat.  You have some options, do you intend to let her have the kittens? Cat abortions are a thing, not saying I recommend this but they are. Some vets won't do them if the animal is too far along.  If you intend to let her have the kittens like everyone else said a giant bin ( lots of blankets water and food) to give birth in would be a good idea or let her move into your families garage if you have one. You want to get her tested for FELV\/FIV if she is negative then ALL the kittens will be negative and you don't need to spend a ton of money testing them separate. Will make it much easier for you or the shelter to adopt them out. Kitten food is the perfect choice for a pregnant cat.","human_ref_B":"Even if you don't get her to a vet I would suggest making her a little hut that she could potentially have her kittens in. We have done this before with a  large Rubbermaid bin that we cut a hole out of the side so she could get in and out of it and we put sheets\/blankets in it. And she ended up using it and we were able to get her and the kittens homes after that. Took a lot of trust building with feeding her nearby her box.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9070.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl5p15p","c_root_id_B":"hl63hyj","created_at_utc_A":1637263536,"created_at_utc_B":1637269234,"score_A":31,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"Well there is vasectomy, but you'll be hard pressed to find someone to do it. It's just not a procedure that is commonly done, especially for cats. It will also be more expensive than neutering, as it is a more complicated procedure. Vasectomy leaves the testicles intact, but there will still likely be stitches, the stitches shouldn't be on the testicles though.  There's also a product called zeuterin - I'm not sure if it's approved for cats. Honestly I'm not sure if the company is still in business. It would be an injection in each testicles (the cat would probably be sedated for this) that over the course of several months will make the cat sterile. There are no stitches, the testicles are still there but they may shrink a lot over time. Again, it's very hard to get your hands on it.   Besides that, I'm not aware of any other procedures.","human_ref_B":"How old is your kitten? If it hasn't started already, he is going to develop extremely foul-smelling urine. There is nothing in this world like \"Tomcat urine\". Most people (myself included) are not willing to share a home with an intact male cat. Intact cats also often \"spray\" (urine marking) and once this behaviour starts it often will not stop after neutering.  I think your family needs to accept that he should be neutered.  You should start working on environmental enrichment so his indoor life can be more rewarding. See the Indoor Cat Initiative. It's great that you're not letting him out while he's intact, but even once he's neutered he will still be in danger of injuries or death if you let him out without a harness (fighting with other cats, predation by wildlife, cars).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5698.0,"score_ratio":2.1935483871}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl63hyj","c_root_id_B":"hl5qmip","created_at_utc_A":1637269234,"created_at_utc_B":1637264165,"score_A":68,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"How old is your kitten? If it hasn't started already, he is going to develop extremely foul-smelling urine. There is nothing in this world like \"Tomcat urine\". Most people (myself included) are not willing to share a home with an intact male cat. Intact cats also often \"spray\" (urine marking) and once this behaviour starts it often will not stop after neutering.  I think your family needs to accept that he should be neutered.  You should start working on environmental enrichment so his indoor life can be more rewarding. See the Indoor Cat Initiative. It's great that you're not letting him out while he's intact, but even once he's neutered he will still be in danger of injuries or death if you let him out without a harness (fighting with other cats, predation by wildlife, cars).","human_ref_B":"My 2 male cats still have \"two small empty fuzzy balls\" after being neutered. Definitely smaller than his regular balls but it doesn't look like they've been completely cut off.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5069.0,"score_ratio":6.8}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl61eew","c_root_id_B":"hl63hyj","created_at_utc_A":1637268402,"created_at_utc_B":1637269234,"score_A":8,"score_B":68,"human_ref_A":"Ask your vet about neuticals.  But leaving the testicles intact keeps the bad behaviors there, even with a vasectomy.","human_ref_B":"How old is your kitten? If it hasn't started already, he is going to develop extremely foul-smelling urine. There is nothing in this world like \"Tomcat urine\". Most people (myself included) are not willing to share a home with an intact male cat. Intact cats also often \"spray\" (urine marking) and once this behaviour starts it often will not stop after neutering.  I think your family needs to accept that he should be neutered.  You should start working on environmental enrichment so his indoor life can be more rewarding. See the Indoor Cat Initiative. It's great that you're not letting him out while he's intact, but even once he's neutered he will still be in danger of injuries or death if you let him out without a harness (fighting with other cats, predation by wildlife, cars).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":832.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl6nrps","c_root_id_B":"hl5qmip","created_at_utc_A":1637277626,"created_at_utc_B":1637264165,"score_A":14,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Nope. Take him to the vet and just bget it done. It needs to be done especially if he is going outside so he's not contributing to all the over population of kittens. After its done your family will not have any say (they might not even notice since they do leave the sacks to heal on its own) they'll actually see and realize it literally changes nothing about the cat except decrease chances of spraying behaviour\/really really foul urine.","human_ref_B":"My 2 male cats still have \"two small empty fuzzy balls\" after being neutered. Definitely smaller than his regular balls but it doesn't look like they've been completely cut off.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13461.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl61eew","c_root_id_B":"hl6nrps","created_at_utc_A":1637268402,"created_at_utc_B":1637277626,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Ask your vet about neuticals.  But leaving the testicles intact keeps the bad behaviors there, even with a vasectomy.","human_ref_B":"Nope. Take him to the vet and just bget it done. It needs to be done especially if he is going outside so he's not contributing to all the over population of kittens. After its done your family will not have any say (they might not even notice since they do leave the sacks to heal on its own) they'll actually see and realize it literally changes nothing about the cat except decrease chances of spraying behaviour\/really really foul urine.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9224.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"qww1fx","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Is there a way to neuter a male kitten without cutting off the balls? My family is very very against neutering my cat. They said it was animal abuse and changes the animal which of course I dont agree with. I need to get him neutered asap its getting colder and my cat is sad because we only let him in the backyard on a harness so he's kinda stuck being at home. This brings me to my question is there a way to neuter without the stitches being visible and keeping the balls there?? I need to get it done asap but don't want my family to notice anything different.","c_root_id_A":"hl6qz43","c_root_id_B":"hl6opcm","created_at_utc_A":1637279037,"created_at_utc_B":1637278040,"score_A":8,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Can you have the cat \"go missing\" for a few days after surgery? But really its recovering at a friend's house or something. Cats seal up very quickly after neutering. So unless your family is going to put their faces right up to his butt they shouldn't notice.","human_ref_B":"See if you can persuade your family from a moral stand point as well. Intact animals lead to unwanted matings and more stray cats. More stray cats leads to cats getting euthanized in shelters, stray cats killing endangered species, stray cats living a hard and short life on the streets with diseases and injuries.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":997.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"27pkzh","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Ok, i'm back with a worse prognosis - Protein Losing Enteropathy. Are there any vets here who can suggest anything? I'm in a rural area and the vets i've spoken to seem like they're just googling the issue Long story short - Our dog started coughing last week.  Vet said it was probably heart-related and sent him to get an ultrasound  Ultrasound revealed fluid in abdomen and small intestine issue leading the heart doctor there to call it PLE.  I just got off the phone with the original vet and she basically said \"feed him a low fat diet and bring him in to be put to sleep when he stops eating in probably a week or two\"  No blood tests ordered or anything.  He's breathing more labored today and i guess the diuretic he's on doesn't help that much with abdominal fluid.  Googling PLE tells me it's a pretty hopeless case but he was just running around normal last week, i can't believe he could go from that to dead in 2 weeks :(  Does anyone have any other suggestions or recommendations?  I'm really limited here as far as vets go, i need to drive 2-3 hours to get a \"city\" vet and even then can't be sure they would know how to treat this or what to do.  Thanks.","c_root_id_A":"ci39j4o","c_root_id_B":"ci39txa","created_at_utc_A":1402345582,"created_at_utc_B":1402346164,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like you've been doing some good research on this. It seems as though your first vet isn't planning to work-up this condition.   My best advice is to try to find a specialist (internal medicine) in the city and take your dog there ASAP for a day of testing and treatment. It may involve driving into the city once or twice but once you have a better diagnosis and treatment plan you should be able to manage without having to go there so often.","human_ref_B":"Small animal vet new grad here. I would have  wanted to see routine blood work at least. If his blood protein is low, that can explain the fluid around his lungs (and secondary cough) and the fluid in his belly. The abnormal-looking intestines on ultrasound does fit. Ideally intestinal biopsies would be done to look for a cause. Like you said, PLE is a syndrome, not a diagnosis per se. It can be caused by many things such as irritable bowel disease, lymph problems or cancer. A biopsy (via endoscopy or surgery) can help distinguish these, though I would still do blood work first. Both biopsy options require general anesthesia, which is always a risk.  It's also possible that it's not PLE. I'm not sure if there is other info that your vets may be privy to about your pet's case such as physical exam findings. PLE cases can be treated with diet change, certain antibiotics like Tylosin, steroids +\/- other immune system modulators. It all depends on the cause and severity of the disease. They don't usually cure it, but can minimize symptoms.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":582.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"95piuq","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat was euthanized after crashing one morning unexpectedly. Vet didn't speak English. Would love some clarity. My cat was euthanized on Sunday and I would like some clarity around what happened on the day she died. I live in a country where I don't speak the language well (Francophone country), so my communication with the vet was spotty and I'd appreciate if someone could better explain what happened.  **My cat:**  \\- Age unknown, I've had her for 11 years, but she was already an adult when I got her  \\- Always had a history of bladder stones\/crystals in urine since I got her. Flared up every 2-3 years.  \\- Diagnosed with kidney disease a few years ago. Switched her to kidney diet. In the last few months I was giving her daily liquid medication (Semintra).  \\- Always vomited since I can remember having her. At least 1x\/week. Near the end, she vomited almost daily. Vets initially brushed off my concerns when I asked each year about it at checkups. Was later told it was a symptom of kidney disease.  \\- During the last year she lost a lot of weight despite having a healthy appetite until the last day.  \\- In the last few months, the vet I was seeing said he could hear something amiss with her heart. I don't speak fluent French, so I wasn't entirely sure what was wrong.  **Euthanasia day:**  Up until the day of her euthanasia, she seemed fine. More tired than normal, but still happy to see me, eating well, and playing despite the illness. Sunday morning I awoke to hear her chain vomiting. Found her stumbling around in a corner panting and drooling. Called the emergency vet who arrived at my house 1 hour later. She was so weak she could barely lift her head. He tried to draw blood from her ear, her foreleg, and then tried her neck. He said the veins weren't possible to find. He asked if I wanted to euthanize her at this point because it was \"severe\" in his words. I agreed because I had never seen her like this and in so much distress.   The vet injected her in the back with what he said was a \"sedative\" (note: this was done in a foreign language I don't speak well, but he used the English word \"sedative\"). She was still breathing and her eyes were open after this. He explained the euthanasia procedure to me and said he would inject her in the heart. I had never heard of this as everything I'd read before was euthanasia via IV\/vein. He injected her in the heart and she stopped breathing and her eyes started to look cloudy instantly. Less than a minute later he checked her heat beat with a stethoscope and said she was gone.   **My questions are:**  1. What happened to my cat the day she died? Going from good the night before to in such distress the day of. Are these the final symptoms of kidney disease or was it something else?  2. I'd never heard of or seen an intra-cardiac euthanasia given. Is this normal? I was in a state of shock watching everything unravel so quickly I didn't ask. 3. She appeared to \"die\" after the 2nd injection within seconds. Is that how fast acting it is? Was her pain over quickly?   I'm sorry this is long. It just breaks my heart and I'm still in a bit of shock. Unfortunately, I don't think I can call the vet to talk about it because I don't speak fluent French so I can't understand everything they're telling me. Any help would be appreciated understanding what happened.   Thank you in advance.","c_root_id_A":"e3ul8bf","c_root_id_B":"e3unkak","created_at_utc_A":1533763259,"created_at_utc_B":1533765214,"score_A":8,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t work in the veterinary field, so I can\u2019t offer any insight on what happened, I just wanted to say I\u2019m so sorry for your loss and hope you can find closure. I wonder if a receptionist at the clinic may be bilingual and be able to read the notes for you? Or perhaps one of the other vets at the clinic? Or if you can find someone locally to translate, you could make an appointment to see the vet and get them to translate what happened for you, or ask for a report for closure and have the poster above translate?","human_ref_B":"Firstly I'm sorry to hear about your loss =(  1. It sounds like your cat has had kidney disease for a few years, followed by kidney failure. The kidneys are responsible for a lot of the removal of waste products from the blood, regulation of fluid levels and electrolyte balance. Initially these cats in the early stages manage pretty well but as the kidneys lose function, waste products like phosphate build up in the blood, protein can leaks out in the urine causing weight loss, and electrolytes can become unbalanced. These cats also become dehydrated because they aren't reabsorbing enough water when manufacturing urine, so they tend to drink a lot and pee a lot to compensate. On the day that she died I suspect that her kidneys stopped working all together. Without the ability to filter waste products from the blood and get them out in urine, the cat rapidly goes into shock. Common clinical signs are collapse, foaming at the mouth, vomiting, nausea. These cats are also often unaware of their surroundings, and can struggle to stand and move around. There is quite a big difference between a kidney that is barely functioning, and one that has failed all together. I suspect that kidney failure was the main cause of her clinical signs and ultimately what necessitated her being put to sleep. 2. Cats that are dehydrated\/ in shock\/ geriatric tend to have small, weak walled veins, When dehydrated and in shock the blood vessels in the legs and extremities clamp down and can be impossible to get a needle into.  In these cases it's more humane to first give a sedative, so that the patient is largely unaware and can't feel pain, and then to inject into the heart or kidneys (Which would be painful in an un-sedated cat). The heart has very large blood vessels leading to it so and injection here spreads through the patient in seconds, meaning that they pass away quickly. We try not to do this in front of clients because it can be distressing, but it is a valid method of euthanizing a collapsed patient and she wouldn't have felt a thing. 3. The first injection was probably a mixture of a strong pain killer (Along the lines of 'Cat Morphine' and a sedative (Think strong Xanax). After a few minutes she would have felt a lot calmer, and any pain that she was experiencing would have gone away. She would still have a heart beat an been breathing, but she wouldn't have been aware of her surroundings. The second injection stops the heart from beating and is usually very quick acting. She would have been unaware of this part and not experienced any pain because she was already sedated.  I hope that this helps and I understand that it's already traumatic enough to lose your pet, let alone not fully understanding what happened.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1955.0,"score_ratio":4.625}
{"post_id":"lo1n4j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[USA]Cat got multiple immunizations in a single visit and then got very sick; could that mean he\u2019s allergic\/sensitive to one of the vaccines or was it because of how many he got in a single visit? My animal is a 2 year old neutered male orange tabby. He is about 18 pounds but the vet said he wasn\u2019t obese bc he\u2019s just a bigger cat. He is a indoor cat but sometimes gets outside so I opted to get the FELV vaccine. He also is used to being in a car and gets groomed semi regularly but he has *never* acted like this after he got home from his appointment   Recently he needed his rabies, FELV, and FVRCP vaccines so I decided to get them all at the same time to save him the stress of going to the vet several times in a month. But within a few hours, he became lethargic, aggressive(he is usually a very laidback and sweet cat, but he hissed at me for the first time in his life and acted like he was gonna swipe at me) and hid for the entire day. The next morning I had to take him to the vet again to get his eyes checked out because the vet suspected a small eye infection but when I took him he had a 105F fever and required a shot to bring down his temperature. He actually went after a vet assistant during it and scratched them pretty bad and tried to bite me which, like I said, was extremely out of character for him. I\u2019ve raised him since he was 3 weeks old and he had never, ever been aggressive before even in situations where he had every right to be. Eventually his condition got so bad (meaning, he was very withdrawn, lethargic, ate and drank very little despite being a voracious eater, diarrhea, vomited a few times, he almost scratched a bald spot into him, and pale gums) that he almost had to be hospitalized but he slowly got better after about two weeks and he lost a lot of weight during that time due to the stress and only eating small amounts the entire time. Also it was determined that he did not have an eye infection at the time of the first vet visit.   The vet said that some cats just have bad reactions to injections but he is fully immunized aside from boosters and he never acted like this when he got his shots when he was a kitten. So could it have been that he\u2019s sensitive to having a certain immunization (it was the first time he had gotten the FELV) or could it have been the fact that he got so many at once that it shocked his system? Should I pace his vaccinations next time so they\u2019re at different times? I\u2019m thinking that he might be allergic to the FELV but the vet said that sometimes that this stuff happens. I plan to keep getting his immunizations but I don\u2019t want to put him through any of this again because it was scary for the both of us","c_root_id_A":"go3xdh4","c_root_id_B":"go3zmfr","created_at_utc_A":1613817770,"created_at_utc_B":1613820050,"score_A":5,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I'm guessing spacing out the vaccinations next time is the best solution. Even humans can get sick when getting a combined vaccine - it can be too much for the body to handle at once.","human_ref_B":"for his next set of boosters, you could ask your vet to space them out over the course of a month to see if he reacts to any specific one. i am not a vet, but am a receptionist at a vet and that is what our clinic does if we suspect a vaccine reaction","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2280.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"lo1n4j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[USA]Cat got multiple immunizations in a single visit and then got very sick; could that mean he\u2019s allergic\/sensitive to one of the vaccines or was it because of how many he got in a single visit? My animal is a 2 year old neutered male orange tabby. He is about 18 pounds but the vet said he wasn\u2019t obese bc he\u2019s just a bigger cat. He is a indoor cat but sometimes gets outside so I opted to get the FELV vaccine. He also is used to being in a car and gets groomed semi regularly but he has *never* acted like this after he got home from his appointment   Recently he needed his rabies, FELV, and FVRCP vaccines so I decided to get them all at the same time to save him the stress of going to the vet several times in a month. But within a few hours, he became lethargic, aggressive(he is usually a very laidback and sweet cat, but he hissed at me for the first time in his life and acted like he was gonna swipe at me) and hid for the entire day. The next morning I had to take him to the vet again to get his eyes checked out because the vet suspected a small eye infection but when I took him he had a 105F fever and required a shot to bring down his temperature. He actually went after a vet assistant during it and scratched them pretty bad and tried to bite me which, like I said, was extremely out of character for him. I\u2019ve raised him since he was 3 weeks old and he had never, ever been aggressive before even in situations where he had every right to be. Eventually his condition got so bad (meaning, he was very withdrawn, lethargic, ate and drank very little despite being a voracious eater, diarrhea, vomited a few times, he almost scratched a bald spot into him, and pale gums) that he almost had to be hospitalized but he slowly got better after about two weeks and he lost a lot of weight during that time due to the stress and only eating small amounts the entire time. Also it was determined that he did not have an eye infection at the time of the first vet visit.   The vet said that some cats just have bad reactions to injections but he is fully immunized aside from boosters and he never acted like this when he got his shots when he was a kitten. So could it have been that he\u2019s sensitive to having a certain immunization (it was the first time he had gotten the FELV) or could it have been the fact that he got so many at once that it shocked his system? Should I pace his vaccinations next time so they\u2019re at different times? I\u2019m thinking that he might be allergic to the FELV but the vet said that sometimes that this stuff happens. I plan to keep getting his immunizations but I don\u2019t want to put him through any of this again because it was scary for the both of us","c_root_id_A":"go3tdq4","c_root_id_B":"go3zmfr","created_at_utc_A":1613813781,"created_at_utc_B":1613820050,"score_A":3,"score_B":30,"human_ref_A":"Hello! I'm not a licensed vet, but I did work as a clinic lead at a mobile vaccination clinic and am currently employed as an vet assistant working in the ICU of an emergency hospital! I'm so sorry to hear about your cat's situation, especially since you were doing your best to get him all up to date like a responsible owner!   It sounds to me like you're very aware of your cat's changes in behavior, and I would keep on top of that and don't hesitate to call your local emergency clinic if you see any other worrying symptoms! They should be willing to answer any questions and address any concerns you have- it never hurts to ask questions!  I would also keep track of all your records- especially the hospital visit- and bring up your concerns when you return for boosters\/whenever your next visit happens!  Also maybe keeping a journal\/calender of which symptoms started when, when the vaccines were given, and any other useful info? Having it all laid out in one place would help me keep track of any patterns or possible other factors that I might not have considered! Again though it sounds like you are very aware of your cat's activities, and have a good routine going, just throwing ideas out there!","human_ref_B":"for his next set of boosters, you could ask your vet to space them out over the course of a month to see if he reacts to any specific one. i am not a vet, but am a receptionist at a vet and that is what our clinic does if we suspect a vaccine reaction","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6269.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"lo1n4j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[USA]Cat got multiple immunizations in a single visit and then got very sick; could that mean he\u2019s allergic\/sensitive to one of the vaccines or was it because of how many he got in a single visit? My animal is a 2 year old neutered male orange tabby. He is about 18 pounds but the vet said he wasn\u2019t obese bc he\u2019s just a bigger cat. He is a indoor cat but sometimes gets outside so I opted to get the FELV vaccine. He also is used to being in a car and gets groomed semi regularly but he has *never* acted like this after he got home from his appointment   Recently he needed his rabies, FELV, and FVRCP vaccines so I decided to get them all at the same time to save him the stress of going to the vet several times in a month. But within a few hours, he became lethargic, aggressive(he is usually a very laidback and sweet cat, but he hissed at me for the first time in his life and acted like he was gonna swipe at me) and hid for the entire day. The next morning I had to take him to the vet again to get his eyes checked out because the vet suspected a small eye infection but when I took him he had a 105F fever and required a shot to bring down his temperature. He actually went after a vet assistant during it and scratched them pretty bad and tried to bite me which, like I said, was extremely out of character for him. I\u2019ve raised him since he was 3 weeks old and he had never, ever been aggressive before even in situations where he had every right to be. Eventually his condition got so bad (meaning, he was very withdrawn, lethargic, ate and drank very little despite being a voracious eater, diarrhea, vomited a few times, he almost scratched a bald spot into him, and pale gums) that he almost had to be hospitalized but he slowly got better after about two weeks and he lost a lot of weight during that time due to the stress and only eating small amounts the entire time. Also it was determined that he did not have an eye infection at the time of the first vet visit.   The vet said that some cats just have bad reactions to injections but he is fully immunized aside from boosters and he never acted like this when he got his shots when he was a kitten. So could it have been that he\u2019s sensitive to having a certain immunization (it was the first time he had gotten the FELV) or could it have been the fact that he got so many at once that it shocked his system? Should I pace his vaccinations next time so they\u2019re at different times? I\u2019m thinking that he might be allergic to the FELV but the vet said that sometimes that this stuff happens. I plan to keep getting his immunizations but I don\u2019t want to put him through any of this again because it was scary for the both of us","c_root_id_A":"go3xdh4","c_root_id_B":"go42emb","created_at_utc_A":1613817770,"created_at_utc_B":1613822735,"score_A":5,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but I'm guessing spacing out the vaccinations next time is the best solution. Even humans can get sick when getting a combined vaccine - it can be too much for the body to handle at once.","human_ref_B":"A febrile response to vaccination is common. When I vaccinate my own pets I spread the vaccines out over time. Most people choose not to do that because of convenience and expense.  My dogs come to work with me every day and I do not charge myself, so it works well for me.  Additionally, response differs with vaccine producer\/brands.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4965.0,"score_ratio":4.2}
{"post_id":"lo1n4j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[USA]Cat got multiple immunizations in a single visit and then got very sick; could that mean he\u2019s allergic\/sensitive to one of the vaccines or was it because of how many he got in a single visit? My animal is a 2 year old neutered male orange tabby. He is about 18 pounds but the vet said he wasn\u2019t obese bc he\u2019s just a bigger cat. He is a indoor cat but sometimes gets outside so I opted to get the FELV vaccine. He also is used to being in a car and gets groomed semi regularly but he has *never* acted like this after he got home from his appointment   Recently he needed his rabies, FELV, and FVRCP vaccines so I decided to get them all at the same time to save him the stress of going to the vet several times in a month. But within a few hours, he became lethargic, aggressive(he is usually a very laidback and sweet cat, but he hissed at me for the first time in his life and acted like he was gonna swipe at me) and hid for the entire day. The next morning I had to take him to the vet again to get his eyes checked out because the vet suspected a small eye infection but when I took him he had a 105F fever and required a shot to bring down his temperature. He actually went after a vet assistant during it and scratched them pretty bad and tried to bite me which, like I said, was extremely out of character for him. I\u2019ve raised him since he was 3 weeks old and he had never, ever been aggressive before even in situations where he had every right to be. Eventually his condition got so bad (meaning, he was very withdrawn, lethargic, ate and drank very little despite being a voracious eater, diarrhea, vomited a few times, he almost scratched a bald spot into him, and pale gums) that he almost had to be hospitalized but he slowly got better after about two weeks and he lost a lot of weight during that time due to the stress and only eating small amounts the entire time. Also it was determined that he did not have an eye infection at the time of the first vet visit.   The vet said that some cats just have bad reactions to injections but he is fully immunized aside from boosters and he never acted like this when he got his shots when he was a kitten. So could it have been that he\u2019s sensitive to having a certain immunization (it was the first time he had gotten the FELV) or could it have been the fact that he got so many at once that it shocked his system? Should I pace his vaccinations next time so they\u2019re at different times? I\u2019m thinking that he might be allergic to the FELV but the vet said that sometimes that this stuff happens. I plan to keep getting his immunizations but I don\u2019t want to put him through any of this again because it was scary for the both of us","c_root_id_A":"go42emb","c_root_id_B":"go3tdq4","created_at_utc_A":1613822735,"created_at_utc_B":1613813781,"score_A":21,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"A febrile response to vaccination is common. When I vaccinate my own pets I spread the vaccines out over time. Most people choose not to do that because of convenience and expense.  My dogs come to work with me every day and I do not charge myself, so it works well for me.  Additionally, response differs with vaccine producer\/brands.","human_ref_B":"Hello! I'm not a licensed vet, but I did work as a clinic lead at a mobile vaccination clinic and am currently employed as an vet assistant working in the ICU of an emergency hospital! I'm so sorry to hear about your cat's situation, especially since you were doing your best to get him all up to date like a responsible owner!   It sounds to me like you're very aware of your cat's changes in behavior, and I would keep on top of that and don't hesitate to call your local emergency clinic if you see any other worrying symptoms! They should be willing to answer any questions and address any concerns you have- it never hurts to ask questions!  I would also keep track of all your records- especially the hospital visit- and bring up your concerns when you return for boosters\/whenever your next visit happens!  Also maybe keeping a journal\/calender of which symptoms started when, when the vaccines were given, and any other useful info? Having it all laid out in one place would help me keep track of any patterns or possible other factors that I might not have considered! Again though it sounds like you are very aware of your cat's activities, and have a good routine going, just throwing ideas out there!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8954.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"lo1n4j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"[USA]Cat got multiple immunizations in a single visit and then got very sick; could that mean he\u2019s allergic\/sensitive to one of the vaccines or was it because of how many he got in a single visit? My animal is a 2 year old neutered male orange tabby. He is about 18 pounds but the vet said he wasn\u2019t obese bc he\u2019s just a bigger cat. He is a indoor cat but sometimes gets outside so I opted to get the FELV vaccine. He also is used to being in a car and gets groomed semi regularly but he has *never* acted like this after he got home from his appointment   Recently he needed his rabies, FELV, and FVRCP vaccines so I decided to get them all at the same time to save him the stress of going to the vet several times in a month. But within a few hours, he became lethargic, aggressive(he is usually a very laidback and sweet cat, but he hissed at me for the first time in his life and acted like he was gonna swipe at me) and hid for the entire day. The next morning I had to take him to the vet again to get his eyes checked out because the vet suspected a small eye infection but when I took him he had a 105F fever and required a shot to bring down his temperature. He actually went after a vet assistant during it and scratched them pretty bad and tried to bite me which, like I said, was extremely out of character for him. I\u2019ve raised him since he was 3 weeks old and he had never, ever been aggressive before even in situations where he had every right to be. Eventually his condition got so bad (meaning, he was very withdrawn, lethargic, ate and drank very little despite being a voracious eater, diarrhea, vomited a few times, he almost scratched a bald spot into him, and pale gums) that he almost had to be hospitalized but he slowly got better after about two weeks and he lost a lot of weight during that time due to the stress and only eating small amounts the entire time. Also it was determined that he did not have an eye infection at the time of the first vet visit.   The vet said that some cats just have bad reactions to injections but he is fully immunized aside from boosters and he never acted like this when he got his shots when he was a kitten. So could it have been that he\u2019s sensitive to having a certain immunization (it was the first time he had gotten the FELV) or could it have been the fact that he got so many at once that it shocked his system? Should I pace his vaccinations next time so they\u2019re at different times? I\u2019m thinking that he might be allergic to the FELV but the vet said that sometimes that this stuff happens. I plan to keep getting his immunizations but I don\u2019t want to put him through any of this again because it was scary for the both of us","c_root_id_A":"go3tdq4","c_root_id_B":"go3xdh4","created_at_utc_A":1613813781,"created_at_utc_B":1613817770,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hello! I'm not a licensed vet, but I did work as a clinic lead at a mobile vaccination clinic and am currently employed as an vet assistant working in the ICU of an emergency hospital! I'm so sorry to hear about your cat's situation, especially since you were doing your best to get him all up to date like a responsible owner!   It sounds to me like you're very aware of your cat's changes in behavior, and I would keep on top of that and don't hesitate to call your local emergency clinic if you see any other worrying symptoms! They should be willing to answer any questions and address any concerns you have- it never hurts to ask questions!  I would also keep track of all your records- especially the hospital visit- and bring up your concerns when you return for boosters\/whenever your next visit happens!  Also maybe keeping a journal\/calender of which symptoms started when, when the vaccines were given, and any other useful info? Having it all laid out in one place would help me keep track of any patterns or possible other factors that I might not have considered! Again though it sounds like you are very aware of your cat's activities, and have a good routine going, just throwing ideas out there!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, but I'm guessing spacing out the vaccinations next time is the best solution. Even humans can get sick when getting a combined vaccine - it can be too much for the body to handle at once.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3989.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"y4yq28","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"Is it safe for my relative who smokes to handle my cat? My relative who lives with us for the moment smokes outside. But he smokes menthols several times a day. I often find her reeking of it bc he touches her and he and his clothes always reek of it, altho he never smokes it in her presence.   He also smokes around his dog she plays with sometimes. Is it safe for him to handle her without cleaning himself after smoking? It annoys me enough that my once good smelling cat constantly reeks of the stuff but now I fear health risks. She's only 6 months old.  Any advice? I want to tell him potential health risks aside not to touch her bc I don't like her smelling of the stuff, but since it's not my place I don't have much say here :\/","c_root_id_A":"isjg28d","c_root_id_B":"isi27hb","created_at_utc_A":1665926779,"created_at_utc_B":1665891424,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Just holding her is not going to hurt her.","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s not just him touching her. The chemicals are in the air and will settle in her fur","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35355.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"8js0fs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My dog is having both his eyes removed, how can I make him feel the most comfortable?  My dog is a 5 year old male cocker spaniel that is completely blind in his right eye and has a detached retina and cataracts in his left eye. He has about 10% of his vision in that eye. He has a bunch of other health problems too. He got all the bad genetics. The doctors told us a year ago that his body is aging much faster than usual and that he's at the same health as a 10 year old dog.  He's having his right eye removed in a few weeks and his left eye soon after that is healed. He is a tough guy, however I am worried about the potential complications since his right eye is starting to cave in and rot. His favourite activity is playing with his ball and he already has trouble doing this so I'm worried that he won't be able to find a way to play anymore.  I know that he's not going to be around for that much longer. I just want to make sure he's as happy as he can be without any vision whatsoever.  How can I make sure his eyes heal well? How do I help him adjust?","c_root_id_A":"dz2efju","c_root_id_B":"dz2or9b","created_at_utc_A":1526468078,"created_at_utc_B":1526480960,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Maybe a ball with a bell in it, the kind cats love because they tingle? That combined with a strong smell he likes (dumping the ball in his food first?) My best to you and doggie!!","human_ref_B":"Try not to move\/rearrange your furniture.  Animals, much like people,  who lose their vision have to rely on memory to get around. Since he has bad vision now, he already would have had to count on muscle memory to get around to a point.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12882.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dov9y0n","c_root_id_B":"dov9fxt","created_at_utc_A":1508942577,"created_at_utc_B":1508942007,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I don't know how often your cat has been to the vet for this problem, but I'd probably recommend checking his urine again.  Is the litter box in an open area - in the middle of the room versus in a closet or again the wall? I'd also suggest a second litter box. The general rule is 1 litter box per cat plus 1. So a 1 cat house should have 2 boxes.   There are veterinary behaviorists - you might want to consider a consult with one of them that specializes in cats with inappropriate urination habits.   Adoption is not the answer. Your cat will likely continue this behavior with another owner. Sorry you are going through this - I know how frustrating it is!","human_ref_B":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":570.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovemdz","c_root_id_B":"dovyfqi","created_at_utc_A":1508947542,"created_at_utc_B":1508967561,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I dont understand why your roomates can't just close the door to their bedroom as well?","human_ref_B":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20019.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovyfqi","c_root_id_B":"dovi62t","created_at_utc_A":1508967561,"created_at_utc_B":1508951122,"score_A":11,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","human_ref_B":"The plastic tablecloth over the bed is a good idea, i would also cover it with double sided tape or foil to deter him from getting on there. Do you have a way to elevate your litterbox like put it on reachable shelf? Maybe its the height thats an issue.  Ooh or if you dont put a detterent on the bed, maybe you could put his food on the bed to see if he won't do his business where he eats.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16439.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovduu4","c_root_id_B":"dovyfqi","created_at_utc_A":1508946759,"created_at_utc_B":1508967561,"score_A":6,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Why not just keep the cat out of the bedroom? Prevent the problem by never giving it access to your bed in the first place. That will also help determine if it\u2019s medical or behavioral, if it stops when there\u2019s no access to the bed then it\u2019s behavioral. If it continues even without access than it\u2019s likely medical or due to unfavorable litter box dynamics.","human_ref_B":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20802.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovyfqi","c_root_id_B":"dovh0r9","created_at_utc_A":1508967561,"created_at_utc_B":1508949970,"score_A":11,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","human_ref_B":"I know you've been to the vet already, but what testing has been done? What were the results?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17591.0,"score_ratio":3.6666666667}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovyfqi","c_root_id_B":"dov9fxt","created_at_utc_A":1508967561,"created_at_utc_B":1508942007,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","human_ref_B":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25554.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovyfqi","c_root_id_B":"dovqmnc","created_at_utc_A":1508967561,"created_at_utc_B":1508959577,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Try feeding the cat on the bed? Animals usually won\u2019t eliminate in the same place they eat.","human_ref_B":"What kind of litter do you use? Is it possible that he just doesn't like the litter anymore?  I would figure out what happened during the time you were gone. Ask your roommates if they noticed anything out of the ordinary.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7984.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovemdz","c_root_id_B":"dovduu4","created_at_utc_A":1508947542,"created_at_utc_B":1508946759,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I dont understand why your roomates can't just close the door to their bedroom as well?","human_ref_B":"Why not just keep the cat out of the bedroom? Prevent the problem by never giving it access to your bed in the first place. That will also help determine if it\u2019s medical or behavioral, if it stops when there\u2019s no access to the bed then it\u2019s behavioral. If it continues even without access than it\u2019s likely medical or due to unfavorable litter box dynamics.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":783.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovemdz","c_root_id_B":"dov9fxt","created_at_utc_A":1508947542,"created_at_utc_B":1508942007,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I dont understand why your roomates can't just close the door to their bedroom as well?","human_ref_B":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5535.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovi62t","c_root_id_B":"dovh0r9","created_at_utc_A":1508951122,"created_at_utc_B":1508949970,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"The plastic tablecloth over the bed is a good idea, i would also cover it with double sided tape or foil to deter him from getting on there. Do you have a way to elevate your litterbox like put it on reachable shelf? Maybe its the height thats an issue.  Ooh or if you dont put a detterent on the bed, maybe you could put his food on the bed to see if he won't do his business where he eats.","human_ref_B":"I know you've been to the vet already, but what testing has been done? What were the results?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1152.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dov9fxt","c_root_id_B":"dovi62t","created_at_utc_A":1508942007,"created_at_utc_B":1508951122,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","human_ref_B":"The plastic tablecloth over the bed is a good idea, i would also cover it with double sided tape or foil to deter him from getting on there. Do you have a way to elevate your litterbox like put it on reachable shelf? Maybe its the height thats an issue.  Ooh or if you dont put a detterent on the bed, maybe you could put his food on the bed to see if he won't do his business where he eats.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9115.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dov9fxt","c_root_id_B":"dovduu4","created_at_utc_A":1508942007,"created_at_utc_B":1508946759,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","human_ref_B":"Why not just keep the cat out of the bedroom? Prevent the problem by never giving it access to your bed in the first place. That will also help determine if it\u2019s medical or behavioral, if it stops when there\u2019s no access to the bed then it\u2019s behavioral. If it continues even without access than it\u2019s likely medical or due to unfavorable litter box dynamics.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4752.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dov9fxt","c_root_id_B":"dow6x1q","created_at_utc_A":1508942007,"created_at_utc_B":1508977584,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","human_ref_B":"Ideally like others have mentioned, you want two litterboxes. Is your cat declawed? I know this can cause a litterbox aversion in some cats. What brand of pheromone are you using? I only know and trust feliway. Continue changing the litter daily. Sounds silly but maybe try lining your bed with aluminum foil while you are gone? Cats hate that stuff.   I also would consider a second opinion. And i do not suggest surrendering for adoption. Nobody goes out to adopt a pissy cat. Even if you dont tell the shelter in hopes that he gets adopted, he will likely continue the behaviour in a new home, and the new owners may not take so kindly. I worked in a shelter, most cats surrendered for marking were euthanized because again, nobody sets out to adopt a pissy cat. Its a sad reality.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35577.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovqmnc","c_root_id_B":"dow6x1q","created_at_utc_A":1508959577,"created_at_utc_B":1508977584,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"What kind of litter do you use? Is it possible that he just doesn't like the litter anymore?  I would figure out what happened during the time you were gone. Ask your roommates if they noticed anything out of the ordinary.","human_ref_B":"Ideally like others have mentioned, you want two litterboxes. Is your cat declawed? I know this can cause a litterbox aversion in some cats. What brand of pheromone are you using? I only know and trust feliway. Continue changing the litter daily. Sounds silly but maybe try lining your bed with aluminum foil while you are gone? Cats hate that stuff.   I also would consider a second opinion. And i do not suggest surrendering for adoption. Nobody goes out to adopt a pissy cat. Even if you dont tell the shelter in hopes that he gets adopted, he will likely continue the behaviour in a new home, and the new owners may not take so kindly. I worked in a shelter, most cats surrendered for marking were euthanized because again, nobody sets out to adopt a pissy cat. Its a sad reality.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18007.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovynd9","c_root_id_B":"dow6x1q","created_at_utc_A":1508967793,"created_at_utc_B":1508977584,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If the pheromones worked for a little while, maybe it is stress related? Did you try food like c\/d stress from Hills or Calm from Royal Canin? Where you are from do they have Zylkene you can buy for reducing stress?","human_ref_B":"Ideally like others have mentioned, you want two litterboxes. Is your cat declawed? I know this can cause a litterbox aversion in some cats. What brand of pheromone are you using? I only know and trust feliway. Continue changing the litter daily. Sounds silly but maybe try lining your bed with aluminum foil while you are gone? Cats hate that stuff.   I also would consider a second opinion. And i do not suggest surrendering for adoption. Nobody goes out to adopt a pissy cat. Even if you dont tell the shelter in hopes that he gets adopted, he will likely continue the behaviour in a new home, and the new owners may not take so kindly. I worked in a shelter, most cats surrendered for marking were euthanized because again, nobody sets out to adopt a pissy cat. Its a sad reality.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9791.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dow2cao","c_root_id_B":"dow6x1q","created_at_utc_A":1508972047,"created_at_utc_B":1508977584,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Have you tried putting a litter box on your bed? With a plastic tarp cover as well. If he uses the litter tray you could then very slowly move it towards the edge and then to the floor.","human_ref_B":"Ideally like others have mentioned, you want two litterboxes. Is your cat declawed? I know this can cause a litterbox aversion in some cats. What brand of pheromone are you using? I only know and trust feliway. Continue changing the litter daily. Sounds silly but maybe try lining your bed with aluminum foil while you are gone? Cats hate that stuff.   I also would consider a second opinion. And i do not suggest surrendering for adoption. Nobody goes out to adopt a pissy cat. Even if you dont tell the shelter in hopes that he gets adopted, he will likely continue the behaviour in a new home, and the new owners may not take so kindly. I worked in a shelter, most cats surrendered for marking were euthanized because again, nobody sets out to adopt a pissy cat. Its a sad reality.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5537.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"78nw04","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"I do not want to give up my cat for adoption!!! My cat won\u2019t stop peeing on my bed and I\u2019ve tried everything I can think. Long haired domestic. 1 yr. ~10 lbs. indoor. Neutered.    After about a 6 month of adopting Apollo as a kitten, he had never had an accident outside of his litter box until I was out of town for about 3 weeks for Work. During this time, my friend stayed with him and the peeing on the bed began. It went from a couple random accidents to eveery day and now On average he pees on my bed about 1-2 times per week. This has been going on for about 6 months now and I feel so helpless. I have gone to the vet multiple times and today he said that there is nothing else he can do and suggested that I give my sweet Apollo up for adoption. This is something I absolutely do not want to do unless it is last resort. If you have any advice please let me know because I have tried EVERYTHING:   1. According to the vet, he is healthy. He\u2019s even on special pro-urinary health food as preventative measure.  2. Got rid of my mattress topper, he then peed on the actual mattress pad so I Did a HEAVY DUTY enzyme digest on my mattress using a black light to find any spots- literally soaked the thing on the last one.  3. Bought brand new bedding after he continued to pee on it even after an enzyme digest multiple times. But he still owes on the new bedding.  4. I have tried probably 5 different types of litter. He has the biggest liter box I could possibly find. It\u2019s not covered and it\u2019s cleaned everyday. Has anyone tried the new pretty litter???? If so what are your thoughts?? 5. I spray my bed heavily with \u201cno-Mark\u201d which is supposed to be a deterant for cats to pee. It obviously doesn\u2019t work. I also never leave anything on my bed (clothes, throw blankets, etc) because it WILL 100% get soiled.  6. I have two plug in pheromone diffusers and the spray, they only worked for about a week. I still refill them and use them regularly but I don\u2019t think they affect him anymore.  6. I LOVE MY CAT. I\u2019ve made him his own home inside my home. He has a huge cat tree, I play with him, I love him, I give him treats. I brush him regularly. I\u2019m not aggressive towards him even though he makes my life so miserable. I also haven\u2019t really been gone more than just during the day for class. I give him all my attention when he wants it. I LOVE MY CAT.  7. Nothing in my home has changed since before the few weeks I was gone. No issues or fighting in the house. There are no other animals in the home besides my cat. No new people. No loss of anyone.  8. I share a home with roommates so his box is in my bedroom. I tried moving his litter box outside my room and closing my door but the he peed in my roommates beds, which he has also done a few times just out of the blue in his own.    My cat is an indoor cat. My bedroom is upstairs so there aren\u2019t any cats outside the window of my room. Thinking about ordering an automatic litter box so if you have one of those, please give me your thoughts??   If you have any advice please please please, let me know anything else I can do. I can not even find any other links that say anything I haven\u2019t already tried. It\u2019s been such a miserable experience to love my sweet kitty so much and try so hard to fix this problem. The fact that my vet is suggesting adoption breaks my heart. I don\u2019t know what to do, I love my cat but I can\u2019t let him continue to control my life. He has even peed in both of my roommates beds a few times. I feel helpless. He is so sweet and very affectionate and follows me around and loves to be pet. I just wish he would stop peeing on my bed.","c_root_id_A":"dovh0r9","c_root_id_B":"dov9fxt","created_at_utc_A":1508949970,"created_at_utc_B":1508942007,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I know you've been to the vet already, but what testing has been done? What were the results?","human_ref_B":"Litter attractant? You just sprinkle it on their litter. It helped my friend whose cat was also peeing EVERYWHERE except the litter box.   Close off your bedroom from him during the day?   Maybe he has a urinary problem take him to vet? Sorry if none of this helps.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7963.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"t6ekfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What could be possibly going on with my cat, she cant stop peeing and the pee looks bloody Shes been peeing like 5 times a day and usually outside her usual litterbox. She also doesnt try to dig she just goes straight for it and pees all over the carpet. I have also noticed her pee is alightly bloody, being an extremely orange colour with dapples of red. What could this mean","c_root_id_A":"hzbo6cf","c_root_id_B":"hzbkvst","created_at_utc_A":1646406477,"created_at_utc_B":1646405072,"score_A":67,"score_B":56,"human_ref_A":"She is peeing outside the litterbox because it's painful and she is associating the litterbox with the pain. She needs to see a veterinarian today","human_ref_B":"Whenever blood is involved, please just take your cat immediately to the vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1405.0,"score_ratio":1.1964285714}
{"post_id":"t6ekfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What could be possibly going on with my cat, she cant stop peeing and the pee looks bloody Shes been peeing like 5 times a day and usually outside her usual litterbox. She also doesnt try to dig she just goes straight for it and pees all over the carpet. I have also noticed her pee is alightly bloody, being an extremely orange colour with dapples of red. What could this mean","c_root_id_A":"hzbysux","c_root_id_B":"hzboq8x","created_at_utc_A":1646410787,"created_at_utc_B":1646406712,"score_A":43,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"She needs the vet asap. A urinary tract infection or blockage won't resolve on its own and requires a vet's treatment.   Get her in as soon as possible, because not only is this painful\/dangerous for her, but it is very common for cats that experience pain while urinating to associate the pain with the litter box and pee elsewhere in the house.","human_ref_B":"I lost a cat just like this please get your cat to the vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4075.0,"score_ratio":1.4827586207}
{"post_id":"t6ekfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What could be possibly going on with my cat, she cant stop peeing and the pee looks bloody Shes been peeing like 5 times a day and usually outside her usual litterbox. She also doesnt try to dig she just goes straight for it and pees all over the carpet. I have also noticed her pee is alightly bloody, being an extremely orange colour with dapples of red. What could this mean","c_root_id_A":"hzc7y2o","c_root_id_B":"hzboq8x","created_at_utc_A":1646414376,"created_at_utc_B":1646406712,"score_A":31,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"It means you need to stop wasting time on Reddit and start calling vets offices to get your cat seen today.","human_ref_B":"I lost a cat just like this please get your cat to the vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7664.0,"score_ratio":1.0689655172}
{"post_id":"t6ekfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What could be possibly going on with my cat, she cant stop peeing and the pee looks bloody Shes been peeing like 5 times a day and usually outside her usual litterbox. She also doesnt try to dig she just goes straight for it and pees all over the carpet. I have also noticed her pee is alightly bloody, being an extremely orange colour with dapples of red. What could this mean","c_root_id_A":"hzcqjxx","c_root_id_B":"hzdo77p","created_at_utc_A":1646421646,"created_at_utc_B":1646434673,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Take her to the vet. Blood in the pee should always be treated as an emergency! Could be something easily resolved with medication such as a UTI or Feline Interstitial Cystitis (which may also be accompanied with diet changes or a need to address any stressors in the environment) but it could also not be as easy as that. Either way, she is likely in quite a bit of pain and should be given medical attention ASAP.","human_ref_B":"Take your cat to the vet immediately","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13027.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"t6ekfr","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What could be possibly going on with my cat, she cant stop peeing and the pee looks bloody Shes been peeing like 5 times a day and usually outside her usual litterbox. She also doesnt try to dig she just goes straight for it and pees all over the carpet. I have also noticed her pee is alightly bloody, being an extremely orange colour with dapples of red. What could this mean","c_root_id_A":"hzdpxc8","c_root_id_B":"hzcqjxx","created_at_utc_A":1646435386,"created_at_utc_B":1646421646,"score_A":6,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Vet, obviously, and as soon as physically possible!","human_ref_B":"Take her to the vet. Blood in the pee should always be treated as an emergency! Could be something easily resolved with medication such as a UTI or Feline Interstitial Cystitis (which may also be accompanied with diet changes or a need to address any stressors in the environment) but it could also not be as easy as that. Either way, she is likely in quite a bit of pain and should be given medical attention ASAP.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13740.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"rkelj2","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"My cat keeps peeing right outside of her litter and if I don\u2019t do something about it my mom will get rid of her. I don\u2019t know what to do. She keeps peeing right outside her litter box and we clean it thoroughly every time but she keeps peeing. My mom doesn\u2019t believe it could be a medical issue and she says the next time she does she\u2019ll put my cat (a former outside cat we rescued as a kitten) outside, where she won\u2019t be able to fend for herself, since she\u2019s been inside since she was a kitten. Please help in any way because I\u2019m desperate. She\u2019s like my best friend.  Cat info- Age: about 2-3 years Breed: unknown She\u2019s spayed, and that\u2019s about all I know about her. Since she was a stray we have no information on her. She\u2019s been peeing like this for a few months, and it\u2019s not everyday. It has picked up a bit in the past 2 weeks.","c_root_id_A":"hp9as5i","c_root_id_B":"hp9c8ej","created_at_utc_A":1639974661,"created_at_utc_B":1639975477,"score_A":9,"score_B":17,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet.  Where is the litter box located and what kind of litter do you use?  Is the litter box covered?  Cats can be picky about their litterbox.","human_ref_B":"These issues are very similar to a uti or a blockage and im not saying that's the issue but I defently would ask your vetinarian about this","labels":0,"seconds_difference":816.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"ulu0x9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Different sized pupils puppy. So, I'm terrified. He's a 16 weeks old lab. No eye seem to react to my flashlight, perhaps the bigger one gets a tiny bit smaller. Do I need to panic?  &#x200B;  Pic: https:\/\/ibb.co\/r4t6d2S   &#x200B;  Species: Dog    Age: 16 wks   Sex: Male   Breed: Lab   Body weight: about 14 kilos   History: none   Clinical signs: One small pupil, one big. Size doesnt really change when lit onto   Duration: 30 minutes   Your general location: Sweden   Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: None","c_root_id_A":"i7y31yb","c_root_id_B":"i7xw2gf","created_at_utc_A":1652118657,"created_at_utc_B":1652115859,"score_A":74,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Straight to the ER vet. Expect to need xrays, bloods, and at least an overnight stay.","human_ref_B":"yeah this would be a vet now situation i think. granted i'm a first year vet student. but this is a neurological sign and warrants evaluation.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2798.0,"score_ratio":1.2542372881}
{"post_id":"ulu0x9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Different sized pupils puppy. So, I'm terrified. He's a 16 weeks old lab. No eye seem to react to my flashlight, perhaps the bigger one gets a tiny bit smaller. Do I need to panic?  &#x200B;  Pic: https:\/\/ibb.co\/r4t6d2S   &#x200B;  Species: Dog    Age: 16 wks   Sex: Male   Breed: Lab   Body weight: about 14 kilos   History: none   Clinical signs: One small pupil, one big. Size doesnt really change when lit onto   Duration: 30 minutes   Your general location: Sweden   Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: None","c_root_id_A":"i7y31yb","c_root_id_B":"i7xx255","created_at_utc_A":1652118657,"created_at_utc_B":1652116258,"score_A":74,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"Straight to the ER vet. Expect to need xrays, bloods, and at least an overnight stay.","human_ref_B":"Vet visit asap","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2399.0,"score_ratio":1.7619047619}
{"post_id":"xeyem1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?","c_root_id_A":"iojit5p","c_root_id_B":"iojoyxc","created_at_utc_A":1663255794,"created_at_utc_B":1663258167,"score_A":11,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Depending on what the medication is some can be compounded into transdermal versions.","human_ref_B":"I do Greenies Pill Pockets for pills, and the vet compounds a few pills into a liquid, which I mix with puree-style food. Have to keep a few varities of pp flavors around, because my cat will be all about salmon one week and want tuna the next (fyi: the company is stopping production on the tuna flavor). There are some dog-centric flavors as well, and also, competing brands.  My cat was sus of the pills at first, too, and spit them out or ate around them, but it just took time and rewarding the behavior. I always treated \"medicine time\" as a big-deal treat-time. If you've ever done any clicker positive-reinforcement training, use that. Bring favorite non-pill pocket treats to the \"session\". Start by inserting bits of other yummy foods--\"treats\"--into the pill pockets while he watchs you, then present the pp as you would if it had a pill in it. Then use the clicker and reward with a full \"treat\" once the cat consumes the pp and the pill. Change up what you insert in the pill pocket.   (Hint: make the pills as small as possible given the type of pill they are; i.e., if you can split them into small pieces and wrap with a bite-sized piece of pocket, do. If it's a capsule, try to use just enough pp material that he bites into the pocket and not the treat, but can still swallow the pill AND some pocket together. If there's too much pp, they'll just use their tongue to separate it and spit out the pill=they taste gross pill=I never want to eat that again.)  Do special treat time a few times a day, on the dosing schedule, and make it special play, treat, (and pet, if possible) time. Switch up what you insert in the pp, and *let him watch you put the treat in and sniff it.* THIS IS IMPORTANT. He may run away when he realizes you have a pill in your hand, which is why it's important to form the positive association with \"treat time\" and non-pilled pockets first.   When you think you've got his trust, begin to insert small doses of pill (big enough to see you put in the pill and small enough to add \"treat\" insert, too. Just enough so if the pill gets out of the pp when he bites down, he won't p\u00e1nic. A big part is letting him sniff and see what pill you're putting in, knowing it might taste yucky, but knowing you wouldn't hurt him and that the treat and attention are better, overall.  Good luck on the ears....luckily, mine submits mostly once the \"towel hug of death\" comes out.  Edits: grammar & increased detail","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2373.0,"score_ratio":2.5454545455}
{"post_id":"xeyem1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?","c_root_id_A":"iojs3ep","c_root_id_B":"iojit5p","created_at_utc_A":1663259356,"created_at_utc_B":1663255794,"score_A":21,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Any chance you can put the medicine on the top of his paws? I know it seems like a terrible idea but usually cats are such obsessive groomers that if you get the medicine (if liquid enough) dispensed onto the top of his front paws he will groom it off and ingest it. Worth a try?","human_ref_B":"Depending on what the medication is some can be compounded into transdermal versions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3562.0,"score_ratio":1.9090909091}
{"post_id":"xeyem1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?","c_root_id_A":"iokmbp3","c_root_id_B":"iokfn7g","created_at_utc_A":1663271156,"created_at_utc_B":1663268528,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If it's a liquid you could try putting it on his paws. Cats hate being dirty and will lick it off","human_ref_B":"My calico is super difficult when it comes to meds. I finally found these Temptation\u2019s Creamy Purrrree, Chicken flavor is her favorite flavor and she can\u2019t resist. I crush up any pill and mix it and let it sit for a minute and she licks it right up.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2628.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"738rht","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"A question for the vets: How do you cope with causing harm to animals, even though it is in their best interest? I'll preface this by saying that I am a vet, and I'm proud to work in this profession and I get a hell of a lot of job satisfaction.  I know that this is a bit of a weird one, but it's been bothering me lately. Everyday, I cause hurt to animals, it's actually my job. Everything from the discomfort of a vaccine, to post operative pain.  Every time a puppy screams, or a pre op cat flinches from an IM injection I feel a little bit bad.  Now I know that it's all for their own good, but they don't know that. I pick the smallest gauge needles, I use the best analgesia that I know of, but causing pain is pretty much unavoidable. Most of my blood samples are successful on the first attempt, but I still feel uncomfortable with how obviously distressed some of the animals in my care are.  I want to know how you cope. Does it bother you? Am I  just being a wuss? If not how do you wrap your head around it? Also I'm very much open to ways to minimise the pain that I do inflict.  (For example, our cat castrated get Buprenorphine instead of Butorphanol for longer analgesia. We inject the Medetomidine + Bupe sub cut and then give the stingier Ketamine 5-10 minutes later.)","c_root_id_A":"dnpef1p","c_root_id_B":"dnp99fj","created_at_utc_A":1506746224,"created_at_utc_B":1506737498,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm 100% on board the fear free train too.  I distract my puppies with chicken broth popsicles or toys for their vaccines, which works most of the time.  Lidocaine gel works great for IV catheters and even blood draws in reactive\/scared animals (though it does seem to take forever). Having a good variety of towel wrap techniques makes cat handling a snap.  Oh, and drugs. Hell yeah to drugs. Sometimes I find myself wishing I could prescribe trazodone for some of my clients, too.  Basically, do the fear free deal & you actually can avoid causing harm a lot. Best thing I ever did for my own wellbeing & that of my patients.","human_ref_B":"I've switched to house call practice, and that alone takes a lot of the stress out of the visits. A ton of my patients don't really even know the exam happened, so they aren't wound up and as reactive to the rest of what I have to do. That isn't to say that they don't react to needles or nail trims, but having a lower stress level and lower fear has helped tremendously. Spoonfuls of peanut butter is magic as well.   Sorry you're having a rough time with it. I'm currently dealing with the same feelings in taking care of my grandma. It's not nice to know you're purposefully inflicting pain, even if it's for a good reason.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8726.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgrcozn","c_root_id_B":"hgr3vse","created_at_utc_A":1634317292,"created_at_utc_B":1634313683,"score_A":23,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Could you take some more photos? It looks like a tick, but some more photos with the hair parted would make it easier to be sure.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3609.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgrcozn","c_root_id_B":"hgr58r5","created_at_utc_A":1634317292,"created_at_utc_B":1634314240,"score_A":23,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Could you take some more photos? It looks like a tick, but some more photos with the hair parted would make it easier to be sure.","human_ref_B":"Bring him in to the vet- he needs to get that checked","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3052.0,"score_ratio":11.5}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgr3vse","c_root_id_B":"hgs1w23","created_at_utc_A":1634313683,"created_at_utc_B":1634327716,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"That is a tick, be careful taking it out, as it looks very full","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14033.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgr58r5","c_root_id_B":"hgs1w23","created_at_utc_A":1634314240,"created_at_utc_B":1634327716,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Bring him in to the vet- he needs to get that checked","human_ref_B":"That is a tick, be careful taking it out, as it looks very full","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13476.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgta304","c_root_id_B":"hgr3vse","created_at_utc_A":1634349252,"created_at_utc_B":1634313683,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"As someone who survived rocky mountain spotted fever please be careful and remove the tick. Also get them on a flea tick medication to prevent further problems for both you and kitty :)","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":35569.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"q8rhay","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Could this be a bot fly? Stray cat I'm taking care of Cat is one year old, male, seems to have three of these on his skin base. Wanted to ask in here to see if anyone could give any direction before taking to a vet for removal. Thanks in advance!  Species: cat   \u2022 Age: 1   \u2022 Sex\/Neuter status: not yet   \u2022 Breed: tabby   \u2022 Body weight: 8 lbs   \u2022 History: no prior problems    \u2022 Clinical signs: none   \u2022 Duration: past week   \u2022 Your general location: united states    https:\/\/ibb.co\/jWfFy4K","c_root_id_A":"hgr58r5","c_root_id_B":"hgta304","created_at_utc_A":1634314240,"created_at_utc_B":1634349252,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Bring him in to the vet- he needs to get that checked","human_ref_B":"As someone who survived rocky mountain spotted fever please be careful and remove the tick. Also get them on a flea tick medication to prevent further problems for both you and kitty :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35012.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"79pqj8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Friend refuses to bring his cat to the vet, yet I want to help. Could this be lick granuloma (picture included)? I hope my post doesn't break any rules; please let me know if it does!  My friend does not trust vets who \"only want his money\" and, as a result, will not bring his cat to one unless there is a clear, obvious life-threatening condition going on with the cat. As someone who would bring my own cats to the vet for routine checkups and at the first sign of something wrong, this is a very frustrating situation to be in; I obviously cannot bring the cat to the vet myself, and my friend will not allow me to pay for the vet myself. So the cat will have to deal without professional help \u2013 as I said, a very frustrating situation!  Tidy is a 13-year-old ginger cat who, about a year and a half ago, started licking himself on one side of his lower back to the point where the hair there fell out, replaced with an irritated sore. If he licks himself too much, the sore actually bleeds a little. Here is a picture of Tidy's sore, who seems to have gotten worse in the last few days (is it possibly infected?): https:\/\/imgur.com\/Pi8KO5E  My friend did bring Tidy to the vet, and I think the vet did give him medication but, if I recall, my friend was supposed to bring Tidy back and never did; the cat hadn't been cured there and then, which made said friend even more skeptical of vets. Tidy wore a pet cone for over a year (!!!) which, unfortunately, did not quite help as he always found ways to lick himself. He's now back to being collarless, but of course the problem persists, and something that looks like a second sore has started to appear somewhere between his neck and his upper back; it's rather small and has too much hair in the way for me for me to make sure it's the same thing, though.  A little bit of Internet magic revealed that Tidy might have lick granuloma, although I'm not too sure. So here I am, playing the diagnostics game myself and, hopefully, finding a way to make things better for him without relying on a vet. Unfortunately, I do remember reading something about the need for a biopsy, and therefore the need for a vet, but I figured I would try to post here in case I'm missing something.  A couple more things, in case it matters: Tidy spends half of his time outside (I tried to make a case to my friend for Tidy to become an indoors-only cat, but to no avail) and, for at least the last few years, he very often has very smelly diarrhea (which he never covers in the litter tray), above all when fed kibble rather than wet food. All of this was already the case before he got this bloody sore, though \u2013 but come to think of it, if you know of a medication that could make his stools more solid, I would very much appreciate your advice.","c_root_id_A":"dp48s0t","c_root_id_B":"dp3zd72","created_at_utc_A":1509405817,"created_at_utc_B":1509395161,"score_A":18,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"OP I don't have any comment one way or another about the diagnosis, but that poor cat is obviously suffering\u2014if I'm reading this correctly, they put the cat in a cone to stop the obsessive licking and left the cone on for over a year rather than return to the vet for further treatment  Like I am getting legitimately angry just typing this out  Regardless, I would try to reach out to your local SPCA, Humane Society, or similar organization to see if you have any recourse in helping the cat find a better home with someone who genuinely gives a shit about its health","human_ref_B":"No one here is allowed to give you a diagnosis. The only thing we can do is tell you that he needs to go back to a vet. If your friend was unhappy with the first one, he can try a new one.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10656.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"b8jzha","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"I think my dog had a seizure and I don't know what to do now... So my 6 year old chiweenie, Zelda, and I were laying in bed asleep when my husband came to bed. He didn't see her under the covers and banged her head with his knee. He gave her a pat, as she is no stranger to a bonk on the noggin, and began to lay down. As he was settling in she walked up to our pillows with a strange look in her eyes, fell over to her side and her head lolled back, she whined as if in pain, then moved her head side to side as if she were off balance, and finally just looked absent and then dazed and slowly \"came to\" and began acting normal again.   The episode only lasted maybe 20-30 seconds at the most. She seems normal now, happy, wagging her tail and excited for a treat. Everything I've read online says to take her to a vet asap, but we are completely broke, and just can't afford emergency care for her. We are at a loss as to what to do at this point other than watch and wait. Any thoughts or ideas would be much appreciated.","c_root_id_A":"ejy7w4s","c_root_id_B":"ejy7w6w","created_at_utc_A":1554216418,"created_at_utc_B":1554216419,"score_A":21,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"Keep her calm and quiet. Noise can be a big stimulating factor is triggering another seizure. Some dogs may have a post-ictal (after seizure) of being dazed for a few hours. Take her to your regular vet when they are open today for a checkup.   If she has another episode try to time it on a clock and take a video. At that point you really need to see a vet ASAP before there are more seizures and she suffers permanent damage.","human_ref_B":"are you in america? look into care credit, scratch pay, and grants through shelters. ask your vet about other options and if they\u2019re willing to set up a payment plan for you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"p0p9ly","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What kind of worm is this in my cats puke? Hello, I want to know what kind of worms these are:  https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/3Y0Lx8f  My cat threw this up. I got her medicine from the vet but I\u2019m concerned about myself or my husband contracting the worms. How should I clean the house? Should I be worried?  \u2022\t\u2060Species: cat \u2022\t\u2060Age: 1 1\/2 years \u2022\t\u2060Sex\/Neuter status: female, fixed \u2022\t\u2060Breed: unknown \u2022\t\u2060Body weight: 6 pounds \u2022\t\u2060History: None \u2022\t\u2060Clinical signs: Threw up once \u2022\t\u2060Duration: One time \u2022\t\u2060Your general location: Kentucky","c_root_id_A":"h88d2wy","c_root_id_B":"h88fiq6","created_at_utc_A":1628469688,"created_at_utc_B":1628470960,"score_A":7,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Roundworm","human_ref_B":"They are likely a type of roundworm. They are technically zoonotic, but the likelihood of you getting it is very low. They usually affect young children or people with compromised immune systems. You would have to either eat the eggs (from handling your cats stool and not washing your hands ) or they can travel through skin (very very rarely). Meaning you would have to walk around barefoot in places where the cat defecates (walk into their liter box). Again super rare. You shouldn't have to worry about them unless you don't wash your hands, or if you eat your cats poop.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1272.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"rcu56s","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Should my dog go in and get tested for every lump he gets? Is there any reliable way I could determine from home \u201cthis lump is okay\u201d or \u201cthis one is not\u201d?  \u2022\t\u2060Species: Dog  \u2022\t\u2060Age: Unknown, gotten guesses from vets ranging from 5 to 11 years old  \u2022\t\u2060Sex\/Neuter status: Male, neutered  \u2022\t\u2060Breed: Mixed breed  \u2022\t\u2060Body weight: 40lbs  \u2022\t\u2060History: Several lipomas  \u2022\t\u2060Clinical signs: Soft lump on stomach, not causing any pain  \u2022\t\u2060Duration: Noticed this week  \u2022\t\u2060Your general location: Southern US  Hello!  I\u2019ve got a dog who\u2019s got a history of lipomas. His vet thinks it\u2019s probably something genetic, he had 2 when we got him and he\u2019s developed 4 or 5 since then. They\u2019ve all been tested\u2014either by needle aspiration or biopsy\u2014so we _know_ it\u2019s just lipomas. 2 have since been removed, because they got a little big and were causing some issues, but he seems totally fine with the current ones so it doesn\u2019t seem worth it to remove any of them.  Our vet told us that, in the future, we can just assume new, soft lumps that don\u2019t seem tender are _probably_ lipomas and only bring him in if they\u2019ve got any unusual symptoms (open wound, causing pain, doesn\u2019t feel right, etc.), but I want to double check with you guys if that\u2019s okay advice.  He got a big shave a week ago and I\u2019ve since noticed a large-ish (maybe 2 inches across?) round lump on his belly. Pretty much everything is in line with his past lipomas\u2014doesn\u2019t seem sensitive to the touch, feels very soft, about the same size, etc\u2014but he\u2019s never had one on his belly before and I thought hernias can behave similarly?  I know you can\u2019t diagnose but, based on the current symptoms, does it seem like an okay idea to leave it unless something changes?","c_root_id_A":"hnxbakr","c_root_id_B":"hnx7adc","created_at_utc_A":1639097419,"created_at_utc_B":1639095609,"score_A":51,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I know it doesn't answer your question but a good way to keep track once lumps become numerous enough \"(is this one new or has it been there before?\") is to print out a tumor map and fill it out.","human_ref_B":"Lipomas are very common in older dogs, and some end up having quite a few. If it feels and looks like a lipoma - it's usually a lipoma. But, there is always the chance it's not. Some people are okay with monitoring and some are not - it just depends on your preference.   Things to look out for would include bleeding, rapid growth, random changes in size\/texture\/firmness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1810.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"luhnbl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is it possible to examine a cat\u2019s mouth without administering anesthetic? Hi! I hope this is an okay question to ask.  My 17-year-old cat has been experiencing some mouth discomfort for almost a year, which has recently gone from mild to severe. He\u2019s eating less, has to be coaxed to eat (normally, he\u2019s very food motivated). After he eats, he paws at his mouth, grinds his teeth, and opens and closes his mouth in a way that makes it seem like he thinks he has food stuck in his mouth.  Anyway, when we took him to the vet in NYC, they said they couldn\u2019t examine his mouth without anesthetizing him, which they didn\u2019t want to do because he\u2019s so old. I\u2019m just wondering if there are vets out there who would be willing to examine his mouth without anesthesia? Or is this just not done?  Our vet gave an antibiotic which doesn\u2019t seemed to have helped and a general painkiller that helped a bit but hasn\u2019t resolved the issue. I\u2019m just wondering how to proceed. Should I switch vets?  Cat is very docile, so if I knew what to look for, I could check his mouth I think? Also, he seems to be in good health other than the mouth thing.  Other details about cat: he\u2019s orange. Weighs about 7 pounds (has lost weight due to the mouth thing, used to be closer to 9 maybe). No serious medical issues since he was a kitten (he\u2019s a rescue and his tail got cut off somehow before he was rescued, but it\u2019s fine now, just kinda stumpy).","c_root_id_A":"gp6z227","c_root_id_B":"gp737za","created_at_utc_A":1614532526,"created_at_utc_B":1614534265,"score_A":4,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Without seeing your cat in person and reading their history it would be impossible for any of us to know if a dental exam with sedation would be an appropriate next step.   I *can* say that I work in a feline-only practice and do dental exams on cats (yes, even senior kitties) daily and without issue. I have a registered technician monitoring the anesthesia the entire time. Sometimes we give some pre-visit pharmaceuticals (PPV) to cats who are stressed at the clinic to take the edge off. Some cats are relaxed enough using the PPV to take a general peek inside their mouths, but an official dental exam\/cleaning should only be done under anesthesia and at a clinic that has dental radiographs available. So to answer your question, YES there are clinics out there willing to examine your cat without anesthesia, ask your vet about some PPV to see if it would be right for him\/her.","human_ref_B":"Even if someone COULD do a thorough exam (which they most likely wouldn't be able to do) you should find a place willing to sedate and examine your cat and run additional diagnostics, like dental radiographs, because you CANNOT see all pathology by just looking in the mouth - there is a lot that goes on under the gumline. What I'm trying to say is that a thorough visual exam still wouldn't be enough - therefore sedation is important.   If your pet is otherwise healthy (and has normal bloodwork) then there are many vets that would feel safe anesthetizing your pet even though he is older. There are even a few dentistry-focused veterinary practices that have anesthesiologists on staff. I wouldn't be so afraid of the anesthetic risks that you just let your cat live like this... He seems to be in a lot of pain\/discomfort.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1739.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"luhnbl","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Is it possible to examine a cat\u2019s mouth without administering anesthetic? Hi! I hope this is an okay question to ask.  My 17-year-old cat has been experiencing some mouth discomfort for almost a year, which has recently gone from mild to severe. He\u2019s eating less, has to be coaxed to eat (normally, he\u2019s very food motivated). After he eats, he paws at his mouth, grinds his teeth, and opens and closes his mouth in a way that makes it seem like he thinks he has food stuck in his mouth.  Anyway, when we took him to the vet in NYC, they said they couldn\u2019t examine his mouth without anesthetizing him, which they didn\u2019t want to do because he\u2019s so old. I\u2019m just wondering if there are vets out there who would be willing to examine his mouth without anesthesia? Or is this just not done?  Our vet gave an antibiotic which doesn\u2019t seemed to have helped and a general painkiller that helped a bit but hasn\u2019t resolved the issue. I\u2019m just wondering how to proceed. Should I switch vets?  Cat is very docile, so if I knew what to look for, I could check his mouth I think? Also, he seems to be in good health other than the mouth thing.  Other details about cat: he\u2019s orange. Weighs about 7 pounds (has lost weight due to the mouth thing, used to be closer to 9 maybe). No serious medical issues since he was a kitten (he\u2019s a rescue and his tail got cut off somehow before he was rescued, but it\u2019s fine now, just kinda stumpy).","c_root_id_A":"gp737za","c_root_id_B":"gp6zg9d","created_at_utc_A":1614534265,"created_at_utc_B":1614532716,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Even if someone COULD do a thorough exam (which they most likely wouldn't be able to do) you should find a place willing to sedate and examine your cat and run additional diagnostics, like dental radiographs, because you CANNOT see all pathology by just looking in the mouth - there is a lot that goes on under the gumline. What I'm trying to say is that a thorough visual exam still wouldn't be enough - therefore sedation is important.   If your pet is otherwise healthy (and has normal bloodwork) then there are many vets that would feel safe anesthetizing your pet even though he is older. There are even a few dentistry-focused veterinary practices that have anesthesiologists on staff. I wouldn't be so afraid of the anesthetic risks that you just let your cat live like this... He seems to be in a lot of pain\/discomfort.","human_ref_B":"He may need an X-ray of what is below the gum line.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1549.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"rp0tic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is it fine that i only feed my cats dry foods everyday? My family always buy dry food for the cats. The 2 oldest are 2 yrs old, youngest 2 is 3 months. We have 8 cats right now and we feed them all the same food. We sometimes buy canned tuna without the flavor and mix it with something like their food or with rice and warm it up. My question is how is it gonna affect them in the long term? The 2 yr olds  ate them most of the time since we had them but it doesnt seem to affect them too much, infact they look healthier than their offsprings. The young ones are the one im worried since i dont want them to accquire some disease or sickness.","c_root_id_A":"hq2e3jq","c_root_id_B":"hq2fa2n","created_at_utc_A":1640552398,"created_at_utc_B":1640552911,"score_A":15,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Why not do a combo of both dry and actual Wet cat food? That actually provides the correct nutrition","human_ref_B":"It\u2019s helpful to get them used to wet food early. They tend to form food preferences as kittens and transitioning to wet food down the line may be difficult if it\u2019s unfamiliar to them. Feeding wet food is a good way to keep them hydrated which can prevent urinary and kidney issues down the road.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":513.0,"score_ratio":2.4666666667}
{"post_id":"rp0tic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is it fine that i only feed my cats dry foods everyday? My family always buy dry food for the cats. The 2 oldest are 2 yrs old, youngest 2 is 3 months. We have 8 cats right now and we feed them all the same food. We sometimes buy canned tuna without the flavor and mix it with something like their food or with rice and warm it up. My question is how is it gonna affect them in the long term? The 2 yr olds  ate them most of the time since we had them but it doesnt seem to affect them too much, infact they look healthier than their offsprings. The young ones are the one im worried since i dont want them to accquire some disease or sickness.","c_root_id_A":"hq3fnng","c_root_id_B":"hq2e3jq","created_at_utc_A":1640569927,"created_at_utc_B":1640552398,"score_A":25,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Your kittens need kitten food.","human_ref_B":"Why not do a combo of both dry and actual Wet cat food? That actually provides the correct nutrition","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17529.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rp0tic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is it fine that i only feed my cats dry foods everyday? My family always buy dry food for the cats. The 2 oldest are 2 yrs old, youngest 2 is 3 months. We have 8 cats right now and we feed them all the same food. We sometimes buy canned tuna without the flavor and mix it with something like their food or with rice and warm it up. My question is how is it gonna affect them in the long term? The 2 yr olds  ate them most of the time since we had them but it doesnt seem to affect them too much, infact they look healthier than their offsprings. The young ones are the one im worried since i dont want them to accquire some disease or sickness.","c_root_id_A":"hq3fnng","c_root_id_B":"hq2mcqb","created_at_utc_A":1640569927,"created_at_utc_B":1640556129,"score_A":25,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Your kittens need kitten food.","human_ref_B":"I have hard food auto feeders for my 3 cats. I believe in feeding them some wet food and dry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13798.0,"score_ratio":12.5}
{"post_id":"rp0tic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is it fine that i only feed my cats dry foods everyday? My family always buy dry food for the cats. The 2 oldest are 2 yrs old, youngest 2 is 3 months. We have 8 cats right now and we feed them all the same food. We sometimes buy canned tuna without the flavor and mix it with something like their food or with rice and warm it up. My question is how is it gonna affect them in the long term? The 2 yr olds  ate them most of the time since we had them but it doesnt seem to affect them too much, infact they look healthier than their offsprings. The young ones are the one im worried since i dont want them to accquire some disease or sickness.","c_root_id_A":"hq3pvzs","c_root_id_B":"hq2mcqb","created_at_utc_A":1640574887,"created_at_utc_B":1640556129,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Your kittens should eat kitten food because they are still growing. A kitten grows up to his first year.  Carbs, grains, sugar and vegetables aren\u2019t bad for them but they should not eat them in large quantities. They are carnivores.   If their stools are okay, their coat is shiny and hydrated, they are active and eat well, I don\u2019t see anything wrong.  Dry food only isn\u2019t bad but look for one with low sodium, high protein and fat with fresh water at all times.   Canned food here and there is good for the fat and moisture content to prevent urinary issues.","human_ref_B":"I have hard food auto feeders for my 3 cats. I believe in feeding them some wet food and dry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18758.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"rp0tic","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is it fine that i only feed my cats dry foods everyday? My family always buy dry food for the cats. The 2 oldest are 2 yrs old, youngest 2 is 3 months. We have 8 cats right now and we feed them all the same food. We sometimes buy canned tuna without the flavor and mix it with something like their food or with rice and warm it up. My question is how is it gonna affect them in the long term? The 2 yr olds  ate them most of the time since we had them but it doesnt seem to affect them too much, infact they look healthier than their offsprings. The young ones are the one im worried since i dont want them to accquire some disease or sickness.","c_root_id_A":"hq3pvzs","c_root_id_B":"hq3pd2x","created_at_utc_A":1640574887,"created_at_utc_B":1640574626,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Your kittens should eat kitten food because they are still growing. A kitten grows up to his first year.  Carbs, grains, sugar and vegetables aren\u2019t bad for them but they should not eat them in large quantities. They are carnivores.   If their stools are okay, their coat is shiny and hydrated, they are active and eat well, I don\u2019t see anything wrong.  Dry food only isn\u2019t bad but look for one with low sodium, high protein and fat with fresh water at all times.   Canned food here and there is good for the fat and moisture content to prevent urinary issues.","human_ref_B":"Wet food is good according to my old vet (moved away \ud83d\ude22) because most cats get more hydration from it than how much they drink. My current cats get a can to share every day and they\u2019re actually big drinkers.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":261.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"dlavj1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I'm moving into an apartment with my friend, and he has birds. Budgies to be exact. People in these apartments smoke marijuana, so I am asking if this will harm the birds? So in the next month, I'm moving into an apartment with my life long friend and his girlfriend. He has 2 budgies, which are very sensitive birds, that cannot survive most fumes or smokes. I know people smoke marijuana in these apartments, and any other apartments you could get into. I'm asking if this would harm the budgies just living in the same apartment complex. None of us smoke that will be living there. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"f4p3wqz","c_root_id_B":"f4p7wmw","created_at_utc_A":1571715292,"created_at_utc_B":1571718876,"score_A":4,"score_B":67,"human_ref_A":"No animal should be exposed to smoke, much less smoke that can carry intoxicants. Responsible pet owners will, at the least, ensure their habit doesn\u2019t impact their animal(s).   One of many reasons I don\u2019t smoke inside.","human_ref_B":"Birds are really vulnerable to smoke due.to their air sack systems. In the old days people used canarys in the coal mines because if a toxic gas built up the canary would die very quickly and alert the miners to a gas build up before it reached levels harmful to people","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3584.0,"score_ratio":16.75}
{"post_id":"dlavj1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I'm moving into an apartment with my friend, and he has birds. Budgies to be exact. People in these apartments smoke marijuana, so I am asking if this will harm the birds? So in the next month, I'm moving into an apartment with my life long friend and his girlfriend. He has 2 budgies, which are very sensitive birds, that cannot survive most fumes or smokes. I know people smoke marijuana in these apartments, and any other apartments you could get into. I'm asking if this would harm the budgies just living in the same apartment complex. None of us smoke that will be living there. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"f4pdpii","c_root_id_B":"f4p3wqz","created_at_utc_A":1571725450,"created_at_utc_B":1571715292,"score_A":21,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Edit: reread and realized you aren't smoking. Sorry.   Not a vet, but I'd strongly advise against letting them anywhere near smoke. Birds' respiratory systems are incredibly sensitive. You can kill them by cooking with a nonstick pan or burning the wrong candle. Not just budgies, any bird, period. I don't know if just being able to smell it would be problematic, but I'd err on the side of caution with birds.","human_ref_B":"No animal should be exposed to smoke, much less smoke that can carry intoxicants. Responsible pet owners will, at the least, ensure their habit doesn\u2019t impact their animal(s).   One of many reasons I don\u2019t smoke inside.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10158.0,"score_ratio":5.25}
{"post_id":"dlavj1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I'm moving into an apartment with my friend, and he has birds. Budgies to be exact. People in these apartments smoke marijuana, so I am asking if this will harm the birds? So in the next month, I'm moving into an apartment with my life long friend and his girlfriend. He has 2 budgies, which are very sensitive birds, that cannot survive most fumes or smokes. I know people smoke marijuana in these apartments, and any other apartments you could get into. I'm asking if this would harm the budgies just living in the same apartment complex. None of us smoke that will be living there. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"f4ph8qf","c_root_id_B":"f4pkrik","created_at_utc_A":1571730478,"created_at_utc_B":1571736190,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet but if you guys arent smoking it shouldn't be a problem! Maybe be aware of any vents that might share airways to other apartments when you first move in to see if any weird smells come from them. Happy moving!","human_ref_B":"As long as the smoking isn't happening in your apartment and you keep the windows closed in their room they should be fine.   Source: have birds and an ex who was a major smoker.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5712.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"dlavj1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I'm moving into an apartment with my friend, and he has birds. Budgies to be exact. People in these apartments smoke marijuana, so I am asking if this will harm the birds? So in the next month, I'm moving into an apartment with my life long friend and his girlfriend. He has 2 budgies, which are very sensitive birds, that cannot survive most fumes or smokes. I know people smoke marijuana in these apartments, and any other apartments you could get into. I'm asking if this would harm the budgies just living in the same apartment complex. None of us smoke that will be living there. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"f4p3wqz","c_root_id_B":"f4ph8qf","created_at_utc_A":1571715292,"created_at_utc_B":1571730478,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"No animal should be exposed to smoke, much less smoke that can carry intoxicants. Responsible pet owners will, at the least, ensure their habit doesn\u2019t impact their animal(s).   One of many reasons I don\u2019t smoke inside.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but if you guys arent smoking it shouldn't be a problem! Maybe be aware of any vents that might share airways to other apartments when you first move in to see if any weird smells come from them. Happy moving!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15186.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"dlavj1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"I'm moving into an apartment with my friend, and he has birds. Budgies to be exact. People in these apartments smoke marijuana, so I am asking if this will harm the birds? So in the next month, I'm moving into an apartment with my life long friend and his girlfriend. He has 2 budgies, which are very sensitive birds, that cannot survive most fumes or smokes. I know people smoke marijuana in these apartments, and any other apartments you could get into. I'm asking if this would harm the budgies just living in the same apartment complex. None of us smoke that will be living there. Thank you.","c_root_id_A":"f4p3wqz","c_root_id_B":"f4pkrik","created_at_utc_A":1571715292,"created_at_utc_B":1571736190,"score_A":4,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"No animal should be exposed to smoke, much less smoke that can carry intoxicants. Responsible pet owners will, at the least, ensure their habit doesn\u2019t impact their animal(s).   One of many reasons I don\u2019t smoke inside.","human_ref_B":"As long as the smoking isn't happening in your apartment and you keep the windows closed in their room they should be fine.   Source: have birds and an ex who was a major smoker.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20898.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"vzevm4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How much butthole licking is too much butthole licking? Our dog (male, neutered, 15 months, 50lbs, shepherd mix) has been licking his butthole area somewhat frequently. We\u2019ve noticed it maybe one or twice a day for the past few weeks, for 15 seconds to a minute each time. He doesn\u2019t show any signs of discomfort beyond the licking.   My wife is worried something is wrong. So my question is: Is this a normal amount of butthole licking or should we take him to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"ig85ba7","c_root_id_B":"ig80f80","created_at_utc_A":1657860649,"created_at_utc_B":1657857850,"score_A":18,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Man you can never have too much butthole licking!  EDIT: Wrong sub\u2026","human_ref_B":"Licking usually indicates itch, discomfort, and\/or inflammation. Best to be seen by a vet to determine if it\u2019s pathologic, or if he just likes the taste","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2799.0,"score_ratio":1.3846153846}
{"post_id":"vzevm4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How much butthole licking is too much butthole licking? Our dog (male, neutered, 15 months, 50lbs, shepherd mix) has been licking his butthole area somewhat frequently. We\u2019ve noticed it maybe one or twice a day for the past few weeks, for 15 seconds to a minute each time. He doesn\u2019t show any signs of discomfort beyond the licking.   My wife is worried something is wrong. So my question is: Is this a normal amount of butthole licking or should we take him to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"ig85ba7","c_root_id_B":"ig80l5y","created_at_utc_A":1657860649,"created_at_utc_B":1657857941,"score_A":18,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Man you can never have too much butthole licking!  EDIT: Wrong sub\u2026","human_ref_B":"You need to take him to a vet because his anal glands may need to be squeezed","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2708.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"vzevm4","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How much butthole licking is too much butthole licking? Our dog (male, neutered, 15 months, 50lbs, shepherd mix) has been licking his butthole area somewhat frequently. We\u2019ve noticed it maybe one or twice a day for the past few weeks, for 15 seconds to a minute each time. He doesn\u2019t show any signs of discomfort beyond the licking.   My wife is worried something is wrong. So my question is: Is this a normal amount of butthole licking or should we take him to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"ig80f80","c_root_id_B":"ig80l5y","created_at_utc_A":1657857850,"created_at_utc_B":1657857941,"score_A":13,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Licking usually indicates itch, discomfort, and\/or inflammation. Best to be seen by a vet to determine if it\u2019s pathologic, or if he just likes the taste","human_ref_B":"You need to take him to a vet because his anal glands may need to be squeezed","labels":0,"seconds_difference":91.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"nrb54b","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Why is being put to sleep as opposed going naturally the preferred option for vets? As an owner of 2 17 year olds, I\u2019d prefer for them to go in their sleep. But I know it\u2019s unlikely to happen as most dogs are euthanised in the end.   I\u2019ve seen a few vets on here mention it\u2019s preferred, why is that? And is that the case for all dogs regardless of illness\/age\/medical history?   I\u2019ve rarely heard of dogs going in their sleep, but my old dog did when I was child. She was drifting off, made a faint yelping sound and was gone. The vet said it was a heart attack even though we weren\u2019t aware of any issues. Looking back i hope she wasn\u2019t in pain :(","c_root_id_A":"h0ht3t1","c_root_id_B":"h0gqwne","created_at_utc_A":1622758193,"created_at_utc_B":1622742093,"score_A":9,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Because there is nothing pleasant or peaceful about \"natural\" death. It's an ugly business that includes a lot of struggle, pain, panic, and (literal) agony.  Occasionally, a dog will pass away in its sleep or just drop dead, but most of the time that simply doesn't happen and quality of life will deteriorate to the point where euthanasia is warranted. We usually recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective way of measuring this.","human_ref_B":"Natural death is rarely peaceful or nice. It can involve seizures or struggling to breathe. In the case of chronic illness, it means they have suffered for months or longer to the point where their body processes shut down. Even if it is not something painful, a dog lives in the moment and has a poor quality of life if they cannot stand without assistance, are incontinent, cannot do the activities they used to enjoy, etc.   Euthanasia means they get to pass quickly and without feeling. If timed correctly, they don\u2019t have drawn out suffering.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16100.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"cl713u","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My dog's vulva is very red and irritated and my vet is on vacation - do I need to take her to the emergency room? Hello, this morning, while petting my dog's tummy, I noticed that her vulva is very red and irritated. She keeps trying to lick it, I assume it's probably itchy, but she has no other symptoms otherwise. She is not lethargic and is not peeing more than usual. My vet is on vacation, so the only option I have is to take her to the emergency room, which is pretty far away and I do not have a car.   I've trimmed the area around her vulva, washed it with lukewarm water and put herbal ointment (hemp, calendula and agrimony) on it. I've also made her a special pair of pants, so she doesn't lick it. Since she has no other smyptoms - can I keep doing that over the weekend to see if it gets better?  She is 5 y.o, spayed, mixed breed, 24 lbs and is not on any medication.   Thank you so much!","c_root_id_A":"evtmcwp","c_root_id_B":"evtio1m","created_at_utc_A":1564773488,"created_at_utc_B":1564771228,"score_A":144,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Please wash off the ointment you applied and don\u2019t apply anything else to the area.   If she\u2019s able to eat\/drink\/eliminate normally and there are no protrusions from her vulva it is not an emergency. Prevent her from licking\/scooting and get an appointment Monday.","human_ref_B":"You need to wash the ointment you used off, and do not apply it again, it could make it worse. It\u2019s not an emergency now, but keep an eye on it and if it gets any worse I would take her in.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2260.0,"score_ratio":2.2857142857}
{"post_id":"rcy6qa","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Sedation\/Euthanasia Question Hello, My mom and I just had to put our cat down. He actually ended up passing away during the sedation stage. Is this normal? It was very unexpected because he started twitching during this stage and we were not prepared since it was not the euthanasia. Our vet said it was normal but I am a bit distraught. Any help is welcome. Thank you","c_root_id_A":"hny7z2k","c_root_id_B":"hnydpuc","created_at_utc_A":1639112267,"created_at_utc_B":1639115486,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I could happen with some patients, especially if they're really weak or sick. Either way it would of been painless for them. Just sucks a little for the owners, but it happens.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry for your loss \ud83e\udd0d and yes, this can happen if your cat was already in a terrible way and ready to pass on. I know that this must have been a traumatic experience for you, but at least he is not in anymore pain and you were there when he crossed the rainbow bridge \ud83c\udf08\ud83e\udd0d sending you lots of love","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3219.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ji3zfs","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"During euthanization, what would cause a pet to apparently gasp for air several times after there is no detectable heartbeat? Had to say goodbye to a friend last night and after there was no heartbeat the doctor left the room. My wife was holding our buddy and he started repeatedly making motions like gasping for air which made my wife even more upset than we already were. The doctor returned after I called for him and pressed an entire syringe of something into the catheter and the dog went lim completely limp; he wasn't before.  Did the vet do something wrong or is there another explanation?","c_root_id_A":"ga4cnwr","c_root_id_B":"ga4eirn","created_at_utc_A":1603672708,"created_at_utc_B":1603673789,"score_A":6,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"Animals can have reflexive muscle movement after death, sometimes of the diaphragm which looks like breathing. It can happen even if everything was done correctly . I explain this to my clients before euthanasia","human_ref_B":"Those were likely *agonal* breaths. A primitive part of our brains is equipped with a reflex to gasp for air when we are deprived of oxygen. We see this on occasion when pets are put to sleep, and often long after the last heart beat. We believe this occurs when the brain\/mind is already \"gone\", so does not reflect any sort of distress for your pet.  Sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1081.0,"score_ratio":5.1666666667}
{"post_id":"r5dr48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Don\u2019t Want to Euthanize my Cat We have a 15 year old cat who\u2019s had kidney disease for some time. Lately her condition has taken a turn for the worse. She\u2019s having trouble walking and her hind legs seem stiff. The left more than the right. She still goes to the litter box but has been having the occasional accident. She looks like she\u2019s in pain and not comfortable. We took her to the vet to and we were told she has the following conditions :   -hypertension   -pronounced heart murmur.   -non regenerative anemia    Here are her blood test numbers:  - creatinine: 10.8  - BUN: 97  - Phosphorus: >16.1  - Calcium: 11.7  - Potassium: 2.6  - Hemoglobin: 8.9  - RBC: 5.9 (possibly elevated because of IV fluids given in the last 2 days)  - Her weight has gone down from 5.8 to 4.7lbs.   The vets suggested euthanasia and my wife was too distraught to ask any follow up questions. I was wondering if we have any other options. She still asks for food and eats her fav gravy meals and is drinking water. She\u2019s been my bud I\u2019m having trouble coming to terms with the idea of letting her go.  edit: formatting","c_root_id_A":"hmmqu3b","c_root_id_B":"hmnta4r","created_at_utc_A":1638251543,"created_at_utc_B":1638279824,"score_A":10,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Well... think about it this way.  If you were him, what would you want?","human_ref_B":"This is such a hard situation for your to be in. I am truly sorry you and your wife are having to go through this.  The way I've spoken to clients about this is this: animals don't have a sense of the future. After passing on, animals don't have a sense of any time they're missing out on. All they know is the here and now, and the past. If you give her another week or she were to pass now, she wouldn't know any difference other than how comfortable she was during that time. You know your cat best. Whenever you feel she's at the point of having more bad moments and suffering more than enjoying life, that's when it makes the most sense.  This is the hardest part of pet ownership, but relieving their pain and not allowing them to suffer is truly the greatest gift we can give them. There are lots of resources for grieving pet owners, such as phone help lines. There may be additional resources in your area. Your vet will have more knowledge of these.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":28281.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"r5dr48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Don\u2019t Want to Euthanize my Cat We have a 15 year old cat who\u2019s had kidney disease for some time. Lately her condition has taken a turn for the worse. She\u2019s having trouble walking and her hind legs seem stiff. The left more than the right. She still goes to the litter box but has been having the occasional accident. She looks like she\u2019s in pain and not comfortable. We took her to the vet to and we were told she has the following conditions :   -hypertension   -pronounced heart murmur.   -non regenerative anemia    Here are her blood test numbers:  - creatinine: 10.8  - BUN: 97  - Phosphorus: >16.1  - Calcium: 11.7  - Potassium: 2.6  - Hemoglobin: 8.9  - RBC: 5.9 (possibly elevated because of IV fluids given in the last 2 days)  - Her weight has gone down from 5.8 to 4.7lbs.   The vets suggested euthanasia and my wife was too distraught to ask any follow up questions. I was wondering if we have any other options. She still asks for food and eats her fav gravy meals and is drinking water. She\u2019s been my bud I\u2019m having trouble coming to terms with the idea of letting her go.  edit: formatting","c_root_id_A":"hmnta4r","c_root_id_B":"hmnozae","created_at_utc_A":1638279824,"created_at_utc_B":1638277471,"score_A":16,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"This is such a hard situation for your to be in. I am truly sorry you and your wife are having to go through this.  The way I've spoken to clients about this is this: animals don't have a sense of the future. After passing on, animals don't have a sense of any time they're missing out on. All they know is the here and now, and the past. If you give her another week or she were to pass now, she wouldn't know any difference other than how comfortable she was during that time. You know your cat best. Whenever you feel she's at the point of having more bad moments and suffering more than enjoying life, that's when it makes the most sense.  This is the hardest part of pet ownership, but relieving their pain and not allowing them to suffer is truly the greatest gift we can give them. There are lots of resources for grieving pet owners, such as phone help lines. There may be additional resources in your area. Your vet will have more knowledge of these.","human_ref_B":"It is painful, to lose your best friend and family member of 15 years. But, is this kindness to her, or *yourself*, when you keep her alive in this state?   I am sure the vet does not suggest euthanasia casually. The vet would get more money to string you along and treat her symptoms. It is likely out of compassion, and I would consider that deeply when deciding if you will force your cat to continue on.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2353.0,"score_ratio":1.4545454545}
{"post_id":"r5dr48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Don\u2019t Want to Euthanize my Cat We have a 15 year old cat who\u2019s had kidney disease for some time. Lately her condition has taken a turn for the worse. She\u2019s having trouble walking and her hind legs seem stiff. The left more than the right. She still goes to the litter box but has been having the occasional accident. She looks like she\u2019s in pain and not comfortable. We took her to the vet to and we were told she has the following conditions :   -hypertension   -pronounced heart murmur.   -non regenerative anemia    Here are her blood test numbers:  - creatinine: 10.8  - BUN: 97  - Phosphorus: >16.1  - Calcium: 11.7  - Potassium: 2.6  - Hemoglobin: 8.9  - RBC: 5.9 (possibly elevated because of IV fluids given in the last 2 days)  - Her weight has gone down from 5.8 to 4.7lbs.   The vets suggested euthanasia and my wife was too distraught to ask any follow up questions. I was wondering if we have any other options. She still asks for food and eats her fav gravy meals and is drinking water. She\u2019s been my bud I\u2019m having trouble coming to terms with the idea of letting her go.  edit: formatting","c_root_id_A":"hmmqu3b","c_root_id_B":"hmnzyun","created_at_utc_A":1638251543,"created_at_utc_B":1638283091,"score_A":10,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Well... think about it this way.  If you were him, what would you want?","human_ref_B":"A friend of mine who is a vet nurse says \"better a week too early than a day too late\".  This is so true, we don't want them to suffer.  Perhaps have a couple of good days with your kitty, let her eat her favourite foods and say goodbye while she is still relatively content and pain free.  It's so hard to say goodbye.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31548.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"r5dr48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Don\u2019t Want to Euthanize my Cat We have a 15 year old cat who\u2019s had kidney disease for some time. Lately her condition has taken a turn for the worse. She\u2019s having trouble walking and her hind legs seem stiff. The left more than the right. She still goes to the litter box but has been having the occasional accident. She looks like she\u2019s in pain and not comfortable. We took her to the vet to and we were told she has the following conditions :   -hypertension   -pronounced heart murmur.   -non regenerative anemia    Here are her blood test numbers:  - creatinine: 10.8  - BUN: 97  - Phosphorus: >16.1  - Calcium: 11.7  - Potassium: 2.6  - Hemoglobin: 8.9  - RBC: 5.9 (possibly elevated because of IV fluids given in the last 2 days)  - Her weight has gone down from 5.8 to 4.7lbs.   The vets suggested euthanasia and my wife was too distraught to ask any follow up questions. I was wondering if we have any other options. She still asks for food and eats her fav gravy meals and is drinking water. She\u2019s been my bud I\u2019m having trouble coming to terms with the idea of letting her go.  edit: formatting","c_root_id_A":"hmnzyun","c_root_id_B":"hmnozae","created_at_utc_A":1638283091,"created_at_utc_B":1638277471,"score_A":14,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"A friend of mine who is a vet nurse says \"better a week too early than a day too late\".  This is so true, we don't want them to suffer.  Perhaps have a couple of good days with your kitty, let her eat her favourite foods and say goodbye while she is still relatively content and pain free.  It's so hard to say goodbye.","human_ref_B":"It is painful, to lose your best friend and family member of 15 years. But, is this kindness to her, or *yourself*, when you keep her alive in this state?   I am sure the vet does not suggest euthanasia casually. The vet would get more money to string you along and treat her symptoms. It is likely out of compassion, and I would consider that deeply when deciding if you will force your cat to continue on.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5620.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"r5dr48","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Don\u2019t Want to Euthanize my Cat We have a 15 year old cat who\u2019s had kidney disease for some time. Lately her condition has taken a turn for the worse. She\u2019s having trouble walking and her hind legs seem stiff. The left more than the right. She still goes to the litter box but has been having the occasional accident. She looks like she\u2019s in pain and not comfortable. We took her to the vet to and we were told she has the following conditions :   -hypertension   -pronounced heart murmur.   -non regenerative anemia    Here are her blood test numbers:  - creatinine: 10.8  - BUN: 97  - Phosphorus: >16.1  - Calcium: 11.7  - Potassium: 2.6  - Hemoglobin: 8.9  - RBC: 5.9 (possibly elevated because of IV fluids given in the last 2 days)  - Her weight has gone down from 5.8 to 4.7lbs.   The vets suggested euthanasia and my wife was too distraught to ask any follow up questions. I was wondering if we have any other options. She still asks for food and eats her fav gravy meals and is drinking water. She\u2019s been my bud I\u2019m having trouble coming to terms with the idea of letting her go.  edit: formatting","c_root_id_A":"hmnozae","c_root_id_B":"hmmqu3b","created_at_utc_A":1638277471,"created_at_utc_B":1638251543,"score_A":11,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"It is painful, to lose your best friend and family member of 15 years. But, is this kindness to her, or *yourself*, when you keep her alive in this state?   I am sure the vet does not suggest euthanasia casually. The vet would get more money to string you along and treat her symptoms. It is likely out of compassion, and I would consider that deeply when deciding if you will force your cat to continue on.","human_ref_B":"Well... think about it this way.  If you were him, what would you want?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25928.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"tvhsrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Please watch! Is this a seizure? Worried about my puppy https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/zIWlTb3    \u2022\t\u2060Species: Golden \u2022\t\u2060Age: 6 mo  \u2022\t\u2060Sex\/Neuter status: not yet \u2022\t\u2060Breed: golden \u2022\t\u2060Body weight: 38 \u2022\t\u2060History: born with heart murmur, has since stopped","c_root_id_A":"i39eeg8","c_root_id_B":"i39vkt2","created_at_utc_A":1649014740,"created_at_utc_B":1649021983,"score_A":2,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"DEFINITELY take him to the vet and show them the video!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7243.0,"score_ratio":14.0}
{"post_id":"tvhsrf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Please watch! Is this a seizure? Worried about my puppy https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/zIWlTb3    \u2022\t\u2060Species: Golden \u2022\t\u2060Age: 6 mo  \u2022\t\u2060Sex\/Neuter status: not yet \u2022\t\u2060Breed: golden \u2022\t\u2060Body weight: 38 \u2022\t\u2060History: born with heart murmur, has since stopped","c_root_id_A":"i39eeg8","c_root_id_B":"i3a585b","created_at_utc_A":1649014740,"created_at_utc_B":1649026244,"score_A":2,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"It's either seizure or syncope. Depending on the timing and the history of the murmur I worry it could be something cardiac related. My first step would be to a cardiologist to rule out an issue with his heart. If it's normal you can pursue a neurological workup.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11504.0,"score_ratio":10.5}
{"post_id":"zze1ni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My two chihuahuas just ate a pack of silica gel balls My Vet just closed and the emergency vet isn\u2019t open yet.. so idk my options. My dogs are 2 pounds and 5 pounds","c_root_id_A":"j2b1nqy","c_root_id_B":"j2b1iao","created_at_utc_A":1672440979,"created_at_utc_B":1672440917,"score_A":81,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"The silica gel packs are actually non toxic. The do not eat warning is simply a choking hazard!","human_ref_B":"Call poison control","labels":1,"seconds_difference":62.0,"score_ratio":13.5}
{"post_id":"zze1ni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My two chihuahuas just ate a pack of silica gel balls My Vet just closed and the emergency vet isn\u2019t open yet.. so idk my options. My dogs are 2 pounds and 5 pounds","c_root_id_A":"j2b1nqy","c_root_id_B":"j2b0uqp","created_at_utc_A":1672440979,"created_at_utc_B":1672440650,"score_A":81,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"The silica gel packs are actually non toxic. The do not eat warning is simply a choking hazard!","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":329.0,"score_ratio":40.5}
{"post_id":"zze1ni","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"My two chihuahuas just ate a pack of silica gel balls My Vet just closed and the emergency vet isn\u2019t open yet.. so idk my options. My dogs are 2 pounds and 5 pounds","c_root_id_A":"j2b1iao","c_root_id_B":"j2b0uqp","created_at_utc_A":1672440917,"created_at_utc_B":1672440650,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Call poison control","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":267.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"306bhk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Hey vets and staff, what's your favorite flea control? I'm behind the times and need to update my hospital's inventory! I've been working at a new vet job for the last few months. I spent over a decade working at vets, but my last vet job before this one was a few years ago, and before that I worked at specialty practices that didn't sell flea control. So my knowledge on the subject is largely limited to Frontline, Advantage, and Revolution. There's been a lot of advances in the last 8 years or so!  I have been tasked with reviewing and updating what flea and tick control we carry. Once I submit it to management, they'll decide what out of my recommendations to carry, and then have some staff education on it. That last part is sorely needed. It seems that we hardly sell any flea and tick control, which is strange, and it doesn't appear that most of the staff is any more up to date on the subject than I am. My first week, I saw the front desk manager recommend to a couple clients to go to Petco and buy OTC flea control like Hartz. It was physically painful for me.   I've started looking into the various options, but they're all starting to look the same. I've also sent an email out to the vets at the practice for their input, but since I'm mainly weekend nights, I don't have much chance to pick their brains in person. No one wants to discuss flea control when things finally settle down at 2 am, including me!  The practice currently carries Revolution for cats and dogs, Comfortis for cats and dogs, Activyl for cats and dogs (and Activyl Plus for dogs), and it's rumored that we have Trifexis for dogs, but I haven't actually seen any. We're in southern California (northern Los Angeles county) and it's going to be one hell of a flea season this year due to how hot it's been. I really want to be able to offer our clients the best possible options to keep their pets free of creepy crawlies and comfortable, as well as have the staff (myself included) as knowledgeable as possible about the various options.   So what are your opinions? What's great and what should generally be avoided?  Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me! I really appreciate it!","c_root_id_A":"cppqpud","c_root_id_B":"cppktbe","created_at_utc_A":1427245106,"created_at_utc_B":1427235148,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"For cats, Revolution hands down. It works well and we don't see the issue in compliance with just one product (vs the old Frontline\/HG combo). Anecdotally we haven't had tick issues even though it's not labeled for them.  For dogs we recommend Sentinel combined with Parastar, Activyl or Nexgard. The insect growth regulator plus a topical\/Nexgard  is super effective at preventing fleas. I'm in New England and we really don't have tick issues with this combo (assuming compliance...).  We are seeing resistance to Frontline here. We don't carry Seresto because we can't price it competitively with pet stores around here. We don't carry Bravecto due to cost to the client, we're in a fairly low-income area. Most of our clients purchase prevention month-to-month.  Good discussion topic!","human_ref_B":"We usually use Advantix for dogs and even combine it with Scalibor (deltamethrin) which is a collar that repels ticks, fleas and \"sand flies\" because we have a lot of leishmaniosis in Spain. We used Preventic which worked great against ticks but it was discontinued here.   We have recently started using Bravecto. It's a highly palatable chew that lasts 12 weeks and is extremely effective against the \"tougher\" fleas we've had this winter that didn't disappear with Advantix or Frontline. It's kind of pricey but works well.  For cats we usually use Stronghold or Frontline.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9958.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"306bhk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Hey vets and staff, what's your favorite flea control? I'm behind the times and need to update my hospital's inventory! I've been working at a new vet job for the last few months. I spent over a decade working at vets, but my last vet job before this one was a few years ago, and before that I worked at specialty practices that didn't sell flea control. So my knowledge on the subject is largely limited to Frontline, Advantage, and Revolution. There's been a lot of advances in the last 8 years or so!  I have been tasked with reviewing and updating what flea and tick control we carry. Once I submit it to management, they'll decide what out of my recommendations to carry, and then have some staff education on it. That last part is sorely needed. It seems that we hardly sell any flea and tick control, which is strange, and it doesn't appear that most of the staff is any more up to date on the subject than I am. My first week, I saw the front desk manager recommend to a couple clients to go to Petco and buy OTC flea control like Hartz. It was physically painful for me.   I've started looking into the various options, but they're all starting to look the same. I've also sent an email out to the vets at the practice for their input, but since I'm mainly weekend nights, I don't have much chance to pick their brains in person. No one wants to discuss flea control when things finally settle down at 2 am, including me!  The practice currently carries Revolution for cats and dogs, Comfortis for cats and dogs, Activyl for cats and dogs (and Activyl Plus for dogs), and it's rumored that we have Trifexis for dogs, but I haven't actually seen any. We're in southern California (northern Los Angeles county) and it's going to be one hell of a flea season this year due to how hot it's been. I really want to be able to offer our clients the best possible options to keep their pets free of creepy crawlies and comfortable, as well as have the staff (myself included) as knowledgeable as possible about the various options.   So what are your opinions? What's great and what should generally be avoided?  Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me! I really appreciate it!","c_root_id_A":"cppu4a6","c_root_id_B":"cppktbe","created_at_utc_A":1427250978,"created_at_utc_B":1427235148,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm in Connecticut, so we don't carry anything that doesn't do tick control. The Seresto collars are amazing for several reasons.   * None of my clients have seen a flea on their animal while using the Seresto collar, even though we live right on the coast and have sandy soil.  * This probably doesn't apply to you, but they also seem to be the most effective product available against ticks.  * They last for 8 months if the animal doesn't frequently get submerged in water, and 6 months if they do. This tends to make them more cost effective, especially since the brand frequently puts out rebates. * They use the same concentration of medication for the cat and dog versions, so this is a safe alternative to topicals if clients have both cats and dogs. * You can touch them and it's not unsafe. I wouldn't advise a client to let their child chew on the collar, but you skip the \"no one can touch the dog for 2 days\" period that you have with topical drops, which is tough for parents of young kids.  And it also goes without saying that you should have Capstar on hand to treat animals with fleas in the clinic. It starts killing the adult fleas in about 30 minutes and is a good way to jump-start a flea management regimen, especially in animals with FAD.  Many of our clients also like to use Nexguard or Trifexis, but we always recommend a multi-product regimen instead since we have horrible fleas, even worse ticks, and prevalent heartworm disease.","human_ref_B":"We usually use Advantix for dogs and even combine it with Scalibor (deltamethrin) which is a collar that repels ticks, fleas and \"sand flies\" because we have a lot of leishmaniosis in Spain. We used Preventic which worked great against ticks but it was discontinued here.   We have recently started using Bravecto. It's a highly palatable chew that lasts 12 weeks and is extremely effective against the \"tougher\" fleas we've had this winter that didn't disappear with Advantix or Frontline. It's kind of pricey but works well.  For cats we usually use Stronghold or Frontline.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15830.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"306bhk","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Hey vets and staff, what's your favorite flea control? I'm behind the times and need to update my hospital's inventory! I've been working at a new vet job for the last few months. I spent over a decade working at vets, but my last vet job before this one was a few years ago, and before that I worked at specialty practices that didn't sell flea control. So my knowledge on the subject is largely limited to Frontline, Advantage, and Revolution. There's been a lot of advances in the last 8 years or so!  I have been tasked with reviewing and updating what flea and tick control we carry. Once I submit it to management, they'll decide what out of my recommendations to carry, and then have some staff education on it. That last part is sorely needed. It seems that we hardly sell any flea and tick control, which is strange, and it doesn't appear that most of the staff is any more up to date on the subject than I am. My first week, I saw the front desk manager recommend to a couple clients to go to Petco and buy OTC flea control like Hartz. It was physically painful for me.   I've started looking into the various options, but they're all starting to look the same. I've also sent an email out to the vets at the practice for their input, but since I'm mainly weekend nights, I don't have much chance to pick their brains in person. No one wants to discuss flea control when things finally settle down at 2 am, including me!  The practice currently carries Revolution for cats and dogs, Comfortis for cats and dogs, Activyl for cats and dogs (and Activyl Plus for dogs), and it's rumored that we have Trifexis for dogs, but I haven't actually seen any. We're in southern California (northern Los Angeles county) and it's going to be one hell of a flea season this year due to how hot it's been. I really want to be able to offer our clients the best possible options to keep their pets free of creepy crawlies and comfortable, as well as have the staff (myself included) as knowledgeable as possible about the various options.   So what are your opinions? What's great and what should generally be avoided?  Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me! I really appreciate it!","c_root_id_A":"cppu4a6","c_root_id_B":"cppsfry","created_at_utc_A":1427250978,"created_at_utc_B":1427248039,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm in Connecticut, so we don't carry anything that doesn't do tick control. The Seresto collars are amazing for several reasons.   * None of my clients have seen a flea on their animal while using the Seresto collar, even though we live right on the coast and have sandy soil.  * This probably doesn't apply to you, but they also seem to be the most effective product available against ticks.  * They last for 8 months if the animal doesn't frequently get submerged in water, and 6 months if they do. This tends to make them more cost effective, especially since the brand frequently puts out rebates. * They use the same concentration of medication for the cat and dog versions, so this is a safe alternative to topicals if clients have both cats and dogs. * You can touch them and it's not unsafe. I wouldn't advise a client to let their child chew on the collar, but you skip the \"no one can touch the dog for 2 days\" period that you have with topical drops, which is tough for parents of young kids.  And it also goes without saying that you should have Capstar on hand to treat animals with fleas in the clinic. It starts killing the adult fleas in about 30 minutes and is a good way to jump-start a flea management regimen, especially in animals with FAD.  Many of our clients also like to use Nexguard or Trifexis, but we always recommend a multi-product regimen instead since we have horrible fleas, even worse ticks, and prevalent heartworm disease.","human_ref_B":"My clinic sells Nexguard.  The dogs usually like it, I think Merial offers a coupon if you buy it and heartguard at the same time.  Our clients seem to appreciate that they don't have to apply anything topically, and I've heard that nexguard works very quickly, but I'm not sure how much is true, and how much is just rumors.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2939.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3ajp5t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Not sure if this is the right sub for this, don't know where else to go: My 19 year old cat will only eat in my bedroom, but there's a problem... ...we have ants. Or, rather, I have ants, since they only seem to appear in my room. The big carpenter fuckers. My almost-20-year-old cat doesn't play well with the kittens and she's on a special diet, so I keep her food, water, and litter in my room where she feels most comfortable eating, drinking, and doing her business. Problem is, she eats like a damn pig and gets crumbs everywhere, which of course attract the ants. Even if I stay there and immediately clean up after her, the ants appear. I've tried spraying them with two different kinds of ant-killing stuff (though I've been careful because, like I said, the cat likes staying in my room - don't want that shit to get near her) and I've put out a shitload of baby powder near every window and general opening, having read that this technique throws off the ants' sense of smell. Instead it's only resulted in ants covered in so much white powder they look like Tony Montana.  Now for my question. I'm not asking for an alternative way to get rid of the scoundrel ants. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to get my cat to eat elsewhere. It's become obvious to me that the issue is that I need to move this food somewhere else, because no matter what it will always attract unwanted little bastards. The other four cats eat downstairs, and because Shadow (the 19 yr old) is on a special diet, I wouldn't want to put her food near theirs because they get greedy and eat anything. Is there anything I can do without disrupting my cat's regime? I know that bringing a significant change into a cat's life (especially when said cat is older) isn't always the best idea, but it's very clear that she can no longer eat in here. What should I do? I'm also extremely poor at the moment, so an exterminator is not an option.  Also I apologize if this is the wrong sub to bring this up. If it is, what would be a better place?","c_root_id_A":"csdfzje","c_root_id_B":"csdj828","created_at_utc_A":1434852958,"created_at_utc_B":1434860682,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Would you consider putting down a few sheets of newspaper to catch the crumbs each time you feed her?","human_ref_B":"You will need to prevent ants from entering the room.  Resealing the windows from the outside as well as where the house meets the foundation.  Putting a line of Amdro outside the window will provide something for them to eat that is tastier than your cats food, reached first, and then carried back to the nest.  I have used Amdro in my tortoise enclosures and it has only taken about a day or so to get rid of colonies.  Amdro is pretty inexpensive and window\/gap sealer is also quite cheap.  Together you are looking at less than take out\/fast food in cost.    Far easier to get rid of the ants than to try to change Shadow's habits.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7724.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"3ajp5t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Not sure if this is the right sub for this, don't know where else to go: My 19 year old cat will only eat in my bedroom, but there's a problem... ...we have ants. Or, rather, I have ants, since they only seem to appear in my room. The big carpenter fuckers. My almost-20-year-old cat doesn't play well with the kittens and she's on a special diet, so I keep her food, water, and litter in my room where she feels most comfortable eating, drinking, and doing her business. Problem is, she eats like a damn pig and gets crumbs everywhere, which of course attract the ants. Even if I stay there and immediately clean up after her, the ants appear. I've tried spraying them with two different kinds of ant-killing stuff (though I've been careful because, like I said, the cat likes staying in my room - don't want that shit to get near her) and I've put out a shitload of baby powder near every window and general opening, having read that this technique throws off the ants' sense of smell. Instead it's only resulted in ants covered in so much white powder they look like Tony Montana.  Now for my question. I'm not asking for an alternative way to get rid of the scoundrel ants. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to get my cat to eat elsewhere. It's become obvious to me that the issue is that I need to move this food somewhere else, because no matter what it will always attract unwanted little bastards. The other four cats eat downstairs, and because Shadow (the 19 yr old) is on a special diet, I wouldn't want to put her food near theirs because they get greedy and eat anything. Is there anything I can do without disrupting my cat's regime? I know that bringing a significant change into a cat's life (especially when said cat is older) isn't always the best idea, but it's very clear that she can no longer eat in here. What should I do? I'm also extremely poor at the moment, so an exterminator is not an option.  Also I apologize if this is the wrong sub to bring this up. If it is, what would be a better place?","c_root_id_A":"csdfmiv","c_root_id_B":"csdj828","created_at_utc_A":1434852117,"created_at_utc_B":1434860682,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"In lieu of relocating food, you can put her food dish inside a larger bowl and put a bit of water in, building a moat. It will keep the ants from getting into her food and hopefully taking away the food will cut down the ants.","human_ref_B":"You will need to prevent ants from entering the room.  Resealing the windows from the outside as well as where the house meets the foundation.  Putting a line of Amdro outside the window will provide something for them to eat that is tastier than your cats food, reached first, and then carried back to the nest.  I have used Amdro in my tortoise enclosures and it has only taken about a day or so to get rid of colonies.  Amdro is pretty inexpensive and window\/gap sealer is also quite cheap.  Together you are looking at less than take out\/fast food in cost.    Far easier to get rid of the ants than to try to change Shadow's habits.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8565.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"3ajp5t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Not sure if this is the right sub for this, don't know where else to go: My 19 year old cat will only eat in my bedroom, but there's a problem... ...we have ants. Or, rather, I have ants, since they only seem to appear in my room. The big carpenter fuckers. My almost-20-year-old cat doesn't play well with the kittens and she's on a special diet, so I keep her food, water, and litter in my room where she feels most comfortable eating, drinking, and doing her business. Problem is, she eats like a damn pig and gets crumbs everywhere, which of course attract the ants. Even if I stay there and immediately clean up after her, the ants appear. I've tried spraying them with two different kinds of ant-killing stuff (though I've been careful because, like I said, the cat likes staying in my room - don't want that shit to get near her) and I've put out a shitload of baby powder near every window and general opening, having read that this technique throws off the ants' sense of smell. Instead it's only resulted in ants covered in so much white powder they look like Tony Montana.  Now for my question. I'm not asking for an alternative way to get rid of the scoundrel ants. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to get my cat to eat elsewhere. It's become obvious to me that the issue is that I need to move this food somewhere else, because no matter what it will always attract unwanted little bastards. The other four cats eat downstairs, and because Shadow (the 19 yr old) is on a special diet, I wouldn't want to put her food near theirs because they get greedy and eat anything. Is there anything I can do without disrupting my cat's regime? I know that bringing a significant change into a cat's life (especially when said cat is older) isn't always the best idea, but it's very clear that she can no longer eat in here. What should I do? I'm also extremely poor at the moment, so an exterminator is not an option.  Also I apologize if this is the wrong sub to bring this up. If it is, what would be a better place?","c_root_id_A":"csdfmiv","c_root_id_B":"csdysvk","created_at_utc_A":1434852117,"created_at_utc_B":1434909396,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"In lieu of relocating food, you can put her food dish inside a larger bowl and put a bit of water in, building a moat. It will keep the ants from getting into her food and hopefully taking away the food will cut down the ants.","human_ref_B":"Try diatomaceous earth wherever you put the baby powder.   It dries out their exoskeleton and they die.  It's safe, non toxic, and pretty cheap.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":57279.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"3ajp5t","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Not sure if this is the right sub for this, don't know where else to go: My 19 year old cat will only eat in my bedroom, but there's a problem... ...we have ants. Or, rather, I have ants, since they only seem to appear in my room. The big carpenter fuckers. My almost-20-year-old cat doesn't play well with the kittens and she's on a special diet, so I keep her food, water, and litter in my room where she feels most comfortable eating, drinking, and doing her business. Problem is, she eats like a damn pig and gets crumbs everywhere, which of course attract the ants. Even if I stay there and immediately clean up after her, the ants appear. I've tried spraying them with two different kinds of ant-killing stuff (though I've been careful because, like I said, the cat likes staying in my room - don't want that shit to get near her) and I've put out a shitload of baby powder near every window and general opening, having read that this technique throws off the ants' sense of smell. Instead it's only resulted in ants covered in so much white powder they look like Tony Montana.  Now for my question. I'm not asking for an alternative way to get rid of the scoundrel ants. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to get my cat to eat elsewhere. It's become obvious to me that the issue is that I need to move this food somewhere else, because no matter what it will always attract unwanted little bastards. The other four cats eat downstairs, and because Shadow (the 19 yr old) is on a special diet, I wouldn't want to put her food near theirs because they get greedy and eat anything. Is there anything I can do without disrupting my cat's regime? I know that bringing a significant change into a cat's life (especially when said cat is older) isn't always the best idea, but it's very clear that she can no longer eat in here. What should I do? I'm also extremely poor at the moment, so an exterminator is not an option.  Also I apologize if this is the wrong sub to bring this up. If it is, what would be a better place?","c_root_id_A":"csdfzje","c_root_id_B":"csdfmiv","created_at_utc_A":1434852958,"created_at_utc_B":1434852117,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Would you consider putting down a few sheets of newspaper to catch the crumbs each time you feed her?","human_ref_B":"In lieu of relocating food, you can put her food dish inside a larger bowl and put a bit of water in, building a moat. It will keep the ants from getting into her food and hopefully taking away the food will cut down the ants.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":841.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"dwkygp","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"My dog is scratching and biting at herself with no visible reason as to why My dog is a german shepherd mutt, not sure what all else she is. She's around 7 years old, weighing at 50lbs. She's been scratching and biting constantly at various parts of her body for months, and she's starting to lose fur in the places she's biting (in front of tail on the back, legs, stomach). I've checked her for fleas and mites and anything else, but I didn't see any indication of bugs. We live in Indianapolis. We've tried bathing her and applying lotion and everything, we even gave her benadryl in case it was allergies, but nothing seems to help.","c_root_id_A":"f7k9xws","c_root_id_B":"f7jyjoy","created_at_utc_A":1573799946,"created_at_utc_B":1573789778,"score_A":24,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"You don't have to see a dermatologist. Book an appointment with your local vet, they are capable of treating skin cases. If they're not sure what's wrong with your dog, then they'll refer you to specialist. We can't give you diagnosis online, however there's plenty of reasons why a dog can be itchy, most of them can be treated at your local vet.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d take her to the vet. She must be miserable. Poor baby.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10168.0,"score_ratio":4.8}
{"post_id":"c90qme","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How do you deal with clients who don't want to pay for veterinary treatment? So, this is going to get a little bit personal, but this is also a general question. What do you do if you have someone who has the means to pay for care for their pet, but doesn't want to do it\/doesn't believe they need to\/thinks vets are just out to make money?  Here's the personal part: my mom has a cat that is confused and walking in circles, which is potentially treatable, but knowing the cause is essential to treatment. If it's an ear infection, antibiotics can help, if it's diabetes or hyperthyroidism, than blood tests need to be done. We took her to the vet and the vet was very firm that she does not need to be put down, but my mom is convinced the vet just wants money and so she won't do any of the tests--even a $40 blood test, which would be really helpful for finding the cause! She basically said she's just waiting for her to be bad enough to be put down, but her condition could easily be treatable! Of course it's possible that it's not, but it is so frustrating to me that someone wouldn't just spend the money to see if it is--especially when they have the money. I really don't know what I should do because she's really stubborn so if I paid I think she might refuse to let me take her cat to the vet or refuse to give her the treatment. I just don't know. It's stressful to have a sick cat, and instead of finding ways to treat her and take care of her, I also have to deal with my mom and her mental condition. I don't know her cat very well (I'm home from college, she adopted her cat recently) but I feel like all cats deserve to get medical treatment.   Back to the general part: what are some strategies that veterinarians can use to convince clients to treat their cats?","c_root_id_A":"ess5xea","c_root_id_B":"ess62at","created_at_utc_A":1562245562,"created_at_utc_B":1562245651,"score_A":10,"score_B":54,"human_ref_A":"The golden question. I think a lot of it comes to if they trust the person giving the recommendation or not. If she is already going into the appointment not trusting the vet, it is super hard to convince them otherwise.","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t think we CAN \u201cconvince\u201d clients to pay for needed tests. We can explain the potential rule outs, their prognoses, the costs for testing (Gold, Silver and Bronze level, if there are multiple options available) and treatment options for the various conditions, but it\u2019s up the client to decide to pay or not pay. Some clients will ask for euthanasia while others will take the pet home and hope they get better or die. Some veterinarians will decline to euthanize while others may do what\u2019s requested if it\u2019s in the animal\u2019s best interests. Some may get clients to sign their sick pet over to them so they can try to help and then find the animal a new home.   Veterinarians being put in positions like you\u2019re describing are incredibly conflicted and these situations seriously contribute to the high stress level we have daily and to the high suicide rate our profession is seeing lately.   TL;DR - There\u2019s very little we can we can do to help your pet if your mom doesn\u2019t want the help.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":89.0,"score_ratio":5.4}
{"post_id":"c90qme","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How do you deal with clients who don't want to pay for veterinary treatment? So, this is going to get a little bit personal, but this is also a general question. What do you do if you have someone who has the means to pay for care for their pet, but doesn't want to do it\/doesn't believe they need to\/thinks vets are just out to make money?  Here's the personal part: my mom has a cat that is confused and walking in circles, which is potentially treatable, but knowing the cause is essential to treatment. If it's an ear infection, antibiotics can help, if it's diabetes or hyperthyroidism, than blood tests need to be done. We took her to the vet and the vet was very firm that she does not need to be put down, but my mom is convinced the vet just wants money and so she won't do any of the tests--even a $40 blood test, which would be really helpful for finding the cause! She basically said she's just waiting for her to be bad enough to be put down, but her condition could easily be treatable! Of course it's possible that it's not, but it is so frustrating to me that someone wouldn't just spend the money to see if it is--especially when they have the money. I really don't know what I should do because she's really stubborn so if I paid I think she might refuse to let me take her cat to the vet or refuse to give her the treatment. I just don't know. It's stressful to have a sick cat, and instead of finding ways to treat her and take care of her, I also have to deal with my mom and her mental condition. I don't know her cat very well (I'm home from college, she adopted her cat recently) but I feel like all cats deserve to get medical treatment.   Back to the general part: what are some strategies that veterinarians can use to convince clients to treat their cats?","c_root_id_A":"ess7aup","c_root_id_B":"essirjt","created_at_utc_A":1562246417,"created_at_utc_B":1562252522,"score_A":3,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Try to give as much transparency as possible with the costs involved in tests and treatment and why those costs are there.   I know what costs my vet office can and cannot provide wiggle room on (services offered in-house versus things they have to do offsite). I never had to or would ever think of taking advantage of this information, but it does come in handy in understanding why something costs what it does and what the actual markup is on services.   Granted this requires trust on both ends. The client has to believe you and be willing to listen and the vet has to use their judgement and make sure the stubborn client in question isn\u2019t just looking for a free ticket.","human_ref_B":"I mean the only real legal option would be to call animal control and have them do a welfare check. If the animal is getting worse or is in pain- legally depending on where you live, the owner has a 24 hour time limit to do something about it or surrender the animal so that it may be treated or potentially euthanized. \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffd\u200d\u2640\ufe0f what a sucky situation and I\u2019m sorry. I totally understand this feeling and it\u2019s awful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6105.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"c90qme","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How do you deal with clients who don't want to pay for veterinary treatment? So, this is going to get a little bit personal, but this is also a general question. What do you do if you have someone who has the means to pay for care for their pet, but doesn't want to do it\/doesn't believe they need to\/thinks vets are just out to make money?  Here's the personal part: my mom has a cat that is confused and walking in circles, which is potentially treatable, but knowing the cause is essential to treatment. If it's an ear infection, antibiotics can help, if it's diabetes or hyperthyroidism, than blood tests need to be done. We took her to the vet and the vet was very firm that she does not need to be put down, but my mom is convinced the vet just wants money and so she won't do any of the tests--even a $40 blood test, which would be really helpful for finding the cause! She basically said she's just waiting for her to be bad enough to be put down, but her condition could easily be treatable! Of course it's possible that it's not, but it is so frustrating to me that someone wouldn't just spend the money to see if it is--especially when they have the money. I really don't know what I should do because she's really stubborn so if I paid I think she might refuse to let me take her cat to the vet or refuse to give her the treatment. I just don't know. It's stressful to have a sick cat, and instead of finding ways to treat her and take care of her, I also have to deal with my mom and her mental condition. I don't know her cat very well (I'm home from college, she adopted her cat recently) but I feel like all cats deserve to get medical treatment.   Back to the general part: what are some strategies that veterinarians can use to convince clients to treat their cats?","c_root_id_A":"ess7aup","c_root_id_B":"essk3iz","created_at_utc_A":1562246417,"created_at_utc_B":1562253194,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Try to give as much transparency as possible with the costs involved in tests and treatment and why those costs are there.   I know what costs my vet office can and cannot provide wiggle room on (services offered in-house versus things they have to do offsite). I never had to or would ever think of taking advantage of this information, but it does come in handy in understanding why something costs what it does and what the actual markup is on services.   Granted this requires trust on both ends. The client has to believe you and be willing to listen and the vet has to use their judgement and make sure the stubborn client in question isn\u2019t just looking for a free ticket.","human_ref_B":"A large part of what vets (and their front office staff) do is educating the clients. Like YouDoNotKnowMe said, we often cannot convince someone to do something they do not see as necessary, but keeping emotion as low as possible, we can try to educate and give options. The Dr I work with now will refuse to euthanize, but I worked for another who would, if the client was adamant, as he was afraid that they would take matters into their own hands if he refused.  Where I live, the law only sees neglect as not giving food, water and shelter so the situation described would not be considered neglect.  I am sorry you are dealing with this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6777.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"c90qme","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"How do you deal with clients who don't want to pay for veterinary treatment? So, this is going to get a little bit personal, but this is also a general question. What do you do if you have someone who has the means to pay for care for their pet, but doesn't want to do it\/doesn't believe they need to\/thinks vets are just out to make money?  Here's the personal part: my mom has a cat that is confused and walking in circles, which is potentially treatable, but knowing the cause is essential to treatment. If it's an ear infection, antibiotics can help, if it's diabetes or hyperthyroidism, than blood tests need to be done. We took her to the vet and the vet was very firm that she does not need to be put down, but my mom is convinced the vet just wants money and so she won't do any of the tests--even a $40 blood test, which would be really helpful for finding the cause! She basically said she's just waiting for her to be bad enough to be put down, but her condition could easily be treatable! Of course it's possible that it's not, but it is so frustrating to me that someone wouldn't just spend the money to see if it is--especially when they have the money. I really don't know what I should do because she's really stubborn so if I paid I think she might refuse to let me take her cat to the vet or refuse to give her the treatment. I just don't know. It's stressful to have a sick cat, and instead of finding ways to treat her and take care of her, I also have to deal with my mom and her mental condition. I don't know her cat very well (I'm home from college, she adopted her cat recently) but I feel like all cats deserve to get medical treatment.   Back to the general part: what are some strategies that veterinarians can use to convince clients to treat their cats?","c_root_id_A":"essjg95","c_root_id_B":"essk3iz","created_at_utc_A":1562252871,"created_at_utc_B":1562253194,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Unfortunately theres no way a vet can make a responsible owner pay. That being said, your mother does not sound like a responsible owner. I would call your local humane society and ask them to do a 'home visit' it could be anonymous, and you dont have to be there. It's what they're there for and theyre trained to handle these situations.","human_ref_B":"A large part of what vets (and their front office staff) do is educating the clients. Like YouDoNotKnowMe said, we often cannot convince someone to do something they do not see as necessary, but keeping emotion as low as possible, we can try to educate and give options. The Dr I work with now will refuse to euthanize, but I worked for another who would, if the client was adamant, as he was afraid that they would take matters into their own hands if he refused.  Where I live, the law only sees neglect as not giving food, water and shelter so the situation described would not be considered neglect.  I am sorry you are dealing with this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":323.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"qor10j","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"I pulled my cat by his tail in order to save him from falling from the staircase and now I am feeling insanely guilty So we recently moved into a new home and we have a more exposed staircase here. The poles going up the stairs are close enough together that they can\u2019t fit between them, but of course the two at the very top are far enough apart that the kitties can fit right through. And weirdly enough, our less wild cat has started to stick his cute little head out and hang down to try and see what\u2019s happening on the first floor. And of course I hate it. My husband is always saying \u201cit\u2019s fine, they won\u2019t fall\u201d but our cats are doofy and not always super graceful. I\u2019ve seen them fall off of way less dangerous things for nearly no reason. Also i just read a post yesterday on a Siberian forum about peoples whos cats do this and have fallen and really hurt themselves. So when I see him doing this, sometimes I ignore him, but sometimes I\u2019ll come from the front and push his head back through and shoo him away.  Last night, I was getting ready for bed, and I had to go downstairs to grab something, and he decided he was going to hang down and watch me. But he was hanging more of his body out than usual and it panicked me a bit. So I pushed him back and tried to redirect him. Well, as you all know I\u2019m sure, sometimes Siberians can be really defiant. And like a toddler, he was like \u201cdon\u2019t want me to do that? Fine. I\u2019m gonna do it harder.\u201d So he instantly turned back and went towards the hole, but much faster. I grabbed him by his body just in time and pulled him back and took him to the next room and put him down. But then a THIRD time he went back to it. But this time he was running and I went after him and by the time we reached the staircase, he had nearly his entire body out. I\u2019m convinced he would have fallen just to prove a point \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffc\u200d\u2640\ufe0f. But in my panic, I grabbed him by what I could and it was his tail and I dragged him back the 8 inches to safety. It all happened super quick. And he just sat there and stared at me in shock for a minute. And I realized what I had done. I know by reading up on it, you can paralyze your cat by pulling their tail \ud83d\ude29. Or cause severe and permanent damage. Or mess up their nerves. I feel insanely guilty. He SEEMS ok. Please some tell me that if I am not seeing any damage, then he is most likely fine. I know cats can hide their pain. My cats are my babies and I feel so bad :(","c_root_id_A":"hjq27hr","c_root_id_B":"hjq8bkl","created_at_utc_A":1636319619,"created_at_utc_B":1636322101,"score_A":14,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Honestly if my cat was looking like he's about to commit suicide I'd do the same. He's fine so you don't have to feel bad. Ive yanked my cat by the tail to prevent him from dashing out the door. It's just reflex. You can put sticky tape (or just roll the edges of regular packing tape over, and have sticky side showing up) on your stair edge area to discourage them from stepping there. Once they associate stepping there with sticky, they may stop looking over the edge. This worked fantastically to discourage kittens from jumping on my counter over fostering for 8 years. I put packing tape sticky side up on my counter for 1-2 weeks and they literally refuse to go on there even if I put them up there.","human_ref_B":"If his tail is limp and he\u2019s urinating\/defecating inappropriately take him to the vet. Otherwise he\u2019s probably fine.  Also, cats can survive falls from insane heights. Falling 10 feet probably won\u2019t hurt him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2482.0,"score_ratio":1.2857142857}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbmxo6l","c_root_id_B":"dbmyt32","created_at_utc_A":1482731431,"created_at_utc_B":1482734052,"score_A":11,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Dogs. Though I do love a very dog-like cat.","human_ref_B":"Dog definitely :) cats are fine as pets just not in the clinic setting. They aim for the eyes\/exposed skin!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2621.0,"score_ratio":1.2727272727}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn1wsg","c_root_id_B":"dbn128b","created_at_utc_A":1482743798,"created_at_utc_B":1482740703,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I love 'em all! Dogs, cats, snakes, rats, fish, whatever! But if I had to choose, I would shamelessly choose cats. My own two little fur balls are just too damn cuddly and adorable.","human_ref_B":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3095.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn128b","c_root_id_B":"dbn29dd","created_at_utc_A":1482740703,"created_at_utc_B":1482745139,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","human_ref_B":"Dog person here as well. I like to take mine to work.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4436.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn7p98","c_root_id_B":"dbn67ov","created_at_utc_A":1482763723,"created_at_utc_B":1482759999,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Cats!!","human_ref_B":"Rabbit person \ud83d\udc30","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3724.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn7p98","c_root_id_B":"dbn128b","created_at_utc_A":1482763723,"created_at_utc_B":1482740703,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Cats!!","human_ref_B":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","labels":1,"seconds_difference":23020.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn7yht","c_root_id_B":"dbn67ov","created_at_utc_A":1482764297,"created_at_utc_B":1482759999,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Definitely a cat person. Have only ever owned cats but do enjoy dogs professionally.","human_ref_B":"Rabbit person \ud83d\udc30","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4298.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn128b","c_root_id_B":"dbn7yht","created_at_utc_A":1482740703,"created_at_utc_B":1482764297,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","human_ref_B":"Definitely a cat person. Have only ever owned cats but do enjoy dogs professionally.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23594.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn67ov","c_root_id_B":"dbn128b","created_at_utc_A":1482759999,"created_at_utc_B":1482740703,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Rabbit person \ud83d\udc30","human_ref_B":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19296.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"5kcaup","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vets of Reddit are you a dog person or a cat person?","c_root_id_A":"dbn128b","c_root_id_B":"dbnaxbt","created_at_utc_A":1482740703,"created_at_utc_B":1482769969,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Dog person for sure, but I only see myself owning cats in the near future. No time to have my own pupper. :c","human_ref_B":"I love both, but it boils down to the personality and character of each as an individual. I tend be goofier with the dogs though. I am the same way in my personal life with my pets.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29266.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"9h9226","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.86,"history":"Need a second opinion on my dog's x-rays (Is it actually hip dysplasia?) Species: Dog  Age: Just turned 9  Sex\/Neuter status: Male\/ Neutered  Breed: Shih-Tzu  Body weight: 5.8 kgs (12.8 lbs)  History: He had a hernia when he was 4 years old, but he underwent surgery. He has slight social-anxiety.   Possible signs (general concerns): We decided to take him to the vet as soon as we noticed his legs shaking a year ago. The vet prescribed an added supplement for his food, as his diet consists of boiled chicken with rice, so the supplements were meant to help him receive all of his nutrients. After that, we've taken him back because his legs have cramped and so they would tell us the same thing and give him a steroid shot and just tell us to continue with his mineral supplement. However in the past few months, his legs have started to shake considerably more and as he is getting older in age, we felt it would be better to get an x-ray done once and for all, just so there's no more assuming. The vet explained to us that it is hip dysplasia but not a critical version of it.  I also want to add that my dog is extremely active and doesn't have a problem going up and down stairs, running around, etc. So I just want a second opinion on if it really is hip dysplasia. Any thoughts or insight would be truly appreciated. Thank you!  X-ray results: https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/CQ0TqBF","c_root_id_A":"e6aegh7","c_root_id_B":"e6a7qpr","created_at_utc_A":1537402184,"created_at_utc_B":1537395708,"score_A":14,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Yea - not a great rad to evaluate for hip dysplasia. Without the hips being even (flat) the angle can play tricks on you, so an orthopedic consult with repeat sedated rads would be best. From the image it doesn't appear that the femoral head is adequately covered but again, the angle could be deceiving","human_ref_B":"You may want to consider taking  your dog to another vet for a second opinion, or even an orthopedic specialist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6476.0,"score_ratio":1.0769230769}
{"post_id":"euuksf","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My hamster suddenly died Species: Teddy Bear Syrian hamster   Gender: Female  Age: Approx. 4months  Weight: 4.2 oz   Spay\/Neuter: No   Clinical signs: None, just death   Diagnosis: None, just death   Location: Midwest\/South (kinda in between)   Previous vet history: None that I know of.    Okay, so after owning my hamster for 13 days, she suddenly died. To me, she seemed very healthy. She ate and drank regularly. There were no respiratory issues, no blood, no wet tail. Literally nothing to show she was sick. She was running on her wheel when I went to bed, and when I woke up she had passed away. It looks like she buried herself in her bedding.   She was in a 40 gallon tank with a water bottle, food bowl, wooden chews, carefresh bedding (6inches), and two different hides. I cleaned the tank up once using pet safe products. Her nesting material was toilet paper. She ate Oxbow hamster food. Her lid was one that went on a reptile tank, so it was ventilated. I spot cleaned daily and had no issues with ammonia.   I know you can\u2019t give me a definite answer, I just want some ideas. I didn\u2019t even have her two weeks, but I loved her. She was very chill and laid back. She never bit me. She liked sitting in my hoodie pocket or on my shoulder.   Edit: forgot to add some important info for the requirements","c_root_id_A":"ffrqo8y","c_root_id_B":"ffs7xv8","created_at_utc_A":1580163679,"created_at_utc_B":1580175351,"score_A":13,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Ah, well I\u2019m sorry for you loss; hope you get some answers though","human_ref_B":"I am a vet student and have learned little to nothing about hamsters in vet school so far but if it was a glass tank and the sides were high enough, I would wonder about ammonia build up at the lower level, even if the top was ventilated. Unfortunately small creatures don\u2019t typically show a lot of clinical signs before they pass if they are sick, but it may be worth consulting an exotics veterinarian about your set up prior to getting another hamster.  I\u2019m very sorry for your loss. It\u2019s clear you loved your hamster and did everything you could for them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11672.0,"score_ratio":1.8461538462}
{"post_id":"85zfq9","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Would adopting a companion cat for my 6 year old tabby who lost his companion comfort him or stress him out? Species: american short hair  Age:6  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, neutered  Breed:  Body weight:  History: Grew up with another cat but that cat is gone :(  Clinical signs: My cat seems even more nervous (he's a nervous cat) without another cat. Increased distressful vocalizations. He seems upset when I'm not paying attention to him.   Duration:  Your general location:  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:","c_root_id_A":"dw1chzg","c_root_id_B":"dw1eo7v","created_at_utc_A":1521612732,"created_at_utc_B":1521617555,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Take him to the vet just to rule out any medical things. Cats can get sick from stress just like we do.","human_ref_B":"Cats aren't socially obligate animals, meaning that they don't have to have friends if they don't want to. There is always a chance that kitty might not accept a new cat in the house, so be wary of that.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4823.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"g8rxzb","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"I think my dog has a fever. Is there anything I can do for him until the vet opens in the morning? The title pretty much says it all. My pit\/terrier mix seems to have a fever because he's warmer than normal and has been sleeping a lot today. Is there anything I can do to help him until the vet opens? He's neutered and about 12 years old. I'm located in South Carolina. He just seems to be under the weather and I'd like to know how I can help him in the meantime.","c_root_id_A":"fopyzlp","c_root_id_B":"fopm1jo","created_at_utc_A":1587976963,"created_at_utc_B":1587965146,"score_A":35,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"You shouldn't give your dog anything to suppress symptoms (like fever) prior to seeing a vet as it will make it more difficult to make a diagnosis.  You should also never ever give your dogs human pain killers.  It doesn't sound like an emergency, just make him comfy for the night and head to the vet in the morning","human_ref_B":"Let him be until you\u2019re able to get in and can seek the vet\u2019s opinion. Not sure if there are any 24 hour emergency places around you that you know of in case he gets worse but good to look into just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11817.0,"score_ratio":2.6923076923}
{"post_id":"s59k62","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What products are safe for dogs who crave hard things to chew on? We have a 7 month old puppy that has been thoroughly enjoying having adult teeth. Before we didn't have any benebones or such because we were warned of tooth fracture... But this little demon will chew things like the metal bars on the shelf, her crate bars, the bars on the stairs, the couch leg, her bowls, her puzzle toys... Anything hard to satisfy that chew. We give her things like buffalo cheek chips, bully sticks, yak chews, kong toys, and even beef trachea but she either goes through them fast or it doesn't satisfy the chew and she leaves it to go chew on something hard instead.  We ended up getting her a puppy benebone which was VERY well loved, and now she has all her adult teeth and her benebone went to the trash because it got worn out, we got her other bones. She went through her petstages one within minutes. I am worried about the risk of tooth fracture on her adult benebone and would rather provide her safer things to chew on that can still satisfy that chew for her.  What are hard chews that are safe for dogs? We don't give rawhides, antlers or real bones because we were told of the risk of choking and splintering.","c_root_id_A":"hswa7tu","c_root_id_B":"hswj2hf","created_at_utc_A":1642338594,"created_at_utc_B":1642343490,"score_A":4,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Following !","human_ref_B":"You might want to ask this question in r\/dogs instead of here. Responses here are going to be deleted if they have any anecdotes, and as there is not much research into this topic, almost everything will be anecdotal in some way.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4896.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"s59k62","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What products are safe for dogs who crave hard things to chew on? We have a 7 month old puppy that has been thoroughly enjoying having adult teeth. Before we didn't have any benebones or such because we were warned of tooth fracture... But this little demon will chew things like the metal bars on the shelf, her crate bars, the bars on the stairs, the couch leg, her bowls, her puzzle toys... Anything hard to satisfy that chew. We give her things like buffalo cheek chips, bully sticks, yak chews, kong toys, and even beef trachea but she either goes through them fast or it doesn't satisfy the chew and she leaves it to go chew on something hard instead.  We ended up getting her a puppy benebone which was VERY well loved, and now she has all her adult teeth and her benebone went to the trash because it got worn out, we got her other bones. She went through her petstages one within minutes. I am worried about the risk of tooth fracture on her adult benebone and would rather provide her safer things to chew on that can still satisfy that chew for her.  What are hard chews that are safe for dogs? We don't give rawhides, antlers or real bones because we were told of the risk of choking and splintering.","c_root_id_A":"hswtbnk","c_root_id_B":"hswa7tu","created_at_utc_A":1642348099,"created_at_utc_B":1642338594,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"There is a long list here of treats and chews that are considered acceptable by boarded veterinary dentists: http:\/\/www.vohc.org\/VOHCAcceptedProductsTable_Dogs.pdf  This doesn't really include toys but typically things like rubber Kong toys are also approved by the college of veterinary dentists. You can always look for the little seal on the packaging. The reason they have these is to indicate that these chews, treats, food and toys are safer for your dogs dentition and (hopefully) to avoid hazards that break teeth or splinter and choke! Hope this helps.","human_ref_B":"Following !","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9505.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"s59k62","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What products are safe for dogs who crave hard things to chew on? We have a 7 month old puppy that has been thoroughly enjoying having adult teeth. Before we didn't have any benebones or such because we were warned of tooth fracture... But this little demon will chew things like the metal bars on the shelf, her crate bars, the bars on the stairs, the couch leg, her bowls, her puzzle toys... Anything hard to satisfy that chew. We give her things like buffalo cheek chips, bully sticks, yak chews, kong toys, and even beef trachea but she either goes through them fast or it doesn't satisfy the chew and she leaves it to go chew on something hard instead.  We ended up getting her a puppy benebone which was VERY well loved, and now she has all her adult teeth and her benebone went to the trash because it got worn out, we got her other bones. She went through her petstages one within minutes. I am worried about the risk of tooth fracture on her adult benebone and would rather provide her safer things to chew on that can still satisfy that chew for her.  What are hard chews that are safe for dogs? We don't give rawhides, antlers or real bones because we were told of the risk of choking and splintering.","c_root_id_A":"hswohll","c_root_id_B":"hswtbnk","created_at_utc_A":1642346015,"created_at_utc_B":1642348099,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I second asking in r\/dogs. You\u2019ve definitely got a good grasp on what vets will tell you to stay away from, but they will be able to make the anecdotal recommendations","human_ref_B":"There is a long list here of treats and chews that are considered acceptable by boarded veterinary dentists: http:\/\/www.vohc.org\/VOHCAcceptedProductsTable_Dogs.pdf  This doesn't really include toys but typically things like rubber Kong toys are also approved by the college of veterinary dentists. You can always look for the little seal on the packaging. The reason they have these is to indicate that these chews, treats, food and toys are safer for your dogs dentition and (hopefully) to avoid hazards that break teeth or splinter and choke! Hope this helps.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2084.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"pfyfod","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Indoor Cat has eyes fully dialated, hissing and growling My indoor cat or 9 years has been healthy and happy and had his annual shots less than a month ago. He appears to have diarrhea, fully dialated eyes, growling and hissing at times. He's still being social and nothing  has changed in his diet.  Male, neutered, DSH","c_root_id_A":"hb7q8kg","c_root_id_B":"hb7old8","created_at_utc_A":1630518865,"created_at_utc_B":1630518201,"score_A":42,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"If he has not behaving like himself you should likely take him to the vet. What you are describing is very broad and does not point to any one thing or another. Likely needs an exam and maybe bloodwork or other diagnostics. Is there any way he could have eaten something he's not supposed to like house plants? Or essential oils\/incense being burned near him?","human_ref_B":"He needs to go to a vet ASAP. There is no way to know what is going on just from your description, but a behavior change like this could indicate that he is in pain. I would be very concerned if this was my cat and would go to the ER if I couldn't get a same-day appointment.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":664.0,"score_ratio":1.9090909091}
{"post_id":"pfyfod","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Indoor Cat has eyes fully dialated, hissing and growling My indoor cat or 9 years has been healthy and happy and had his annual shots less than a month ago. He appears to have diarrhea, fully dialated eyes, growling and hissing at times. He's still being social and nothing  has changed in his diet.  Male, neutered, DSH","c_root_id_A":"hb7khza","c_root_id_B":"hb7q8kg","created_at_utc_A":1630516534,"created_at_utc_B":1630518865,"score_A":2,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"If he has not behaving like himself you should likely take him to the vet. What you are describing is very broad and does not point to any one thing or another. Likely needs an exam and maybe bloodwork or other diagnostics. Is there any way he could have eaten something he's not supposed to like house plants? Or essential oils\/incense being burned near him?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2331.0,"score_ratio":21.0}
{"post_id":"pfyfod","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Indoor Cat has eyes fully dialated, hissing and growling My indoor cat or 9 years has been healthy and happy and had his annual shots less than a month ago. He appears to have diarrhea, fully dialated eyes, growling and hissing at times. He's still being social and nothing  has changed in his diet.  Male, neutered, DSH","c_root_id_A":"hb7khza","c_root_id_B":"hb7old8","created_at_utc_A":1630516534,"created_at_utc_B":1630518201,"score_A":2,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"He needs to go to a vet ASAP. There is no way to know what is going on just from your description, but a behavior change like this could indicate that he is in pain. I would be very concerned if this was my cat and would go to the ER if I couldn't get a same-day appointment.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1667.0,"score_ratio":11.0}
{"post_id":"bsw307","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"My cat likes to sit outside on the porch for hours even when it's 90+ degrees. Should I let him, or make him come inside after a certain amount of time? Species: Cat  Age: ~4  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: DSH  Body weight: ~14lbs  History: Allergies to life itself.  Clinical signs: None  Duration: N\/A  Your general location: Georgia, USA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: N\/A  Hey, so my cat is a black DSH that I got from a shelter a few years ago. He's a problem kitty with allergies that kick up in the spring\/summer, but otherwise he's alright. He used to be a street kitty, then was indoor\/outdoor for awhile. Since we've moved to GA, he is strictly indoors. However, he loves to sit on my back porch, which is completely screened in. He will sit out there for HOURS, sometimes birdwatching, sometimes just laying around. I never leave him out if I'm not home and I offer him chances to come inside every 30 minutes, but he usually ignores me. When he's ready to come in, he'll come meow at the door.   It's going to be over 100 degrees in the next few days, is it alright to let him stay out as long as he wants? Should I put water out there for him? Should I bring him inside after some amount of time even if he ignores me calling him? He rarely lies in direct sunlight, but it's just so stupid hot out there.","c_root_id_A":"eorh5o6","c_root_id_B":"eoreaed","created_at_utc_A":1558806955,"created_at_utc_B":1558805344,"score_A":51,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"As long as they arent showing signs of distress; excessive panting, lethargic, etc; I'd say it's perfectly fine. Just make sure they have access to water 24\/7.","human_ref_B":"Following, as my 2 cats do the same on our patio","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1611.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupg9k","c_root_id_B":"iuut2a8","created_at_utc_A":1667446377,"created_at_utc_B":1667448390,"score_A":2,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","human_ref_B":"Recommendations will depend on your location, and technically we should not be saying particular companies as that can seem biased.   I do often tell my clients to look for insurance that has \u201clifetime cover\u201d (very helpful for chronic conditions) as the main benefit. Read the fine print carefully as some have different little clauses (especially surrounding  how much your \u201cco-pay\u201d at each visit). If you\u2019re in the UK, pet insurance can be researched on pet comparisons websites which is very helpful.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2013.0,"score_ratio":13.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuut2a8","c_root_id_B":"iuupybp","created_at_utc_A":1667448390,"created_at_utc_B":1667446637,"score_A":27,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Recommendations will depend on your location, and technically we should not be saying particular companies as that can seem biased.   I do often tell my clients to look for insurance that has \u201clifetime cover\u201d (very helpful for chronic conditions) as the main benefit. Read the fine print carefully as some have different little clauses (especially surrounding  how much your \u201cco-pay\u201d at each visit). If you\u2019re in the UK, pet insurance can be researched on pet comparisons websites which is very helpful.","human_ref_B":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1753.0,"score_ratio":13.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuz7aw","c_root_id_B":"iuv73r1","created_at_utc_A":1667452337,"created_at_utc_B":1667458711,"score_A":8,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","human_ref_B":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6374.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv73r1","c_root_id_B":"iuv3hnc","created_at_utc_A":1667458711,"created_at_utc_B":1667455626,"score_A":20,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","human_ref_B":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3085.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuubcu","c_root_id_B":"iuv73r1","created_at_utc_A":1667449148,"created_at_utc_B":1667458711,"score_A":3,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","human_ref_B":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9563.0,"score_ratio":6.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv2945","c_root_id_B":"iuv73r1","created_at_utc_A":1667454633,"created_at_utc_B":1667458711,"score_A":3,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","human_ref_B":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4078.0,"score_ratio":6.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv73r1","c_root_id_B":"iuupg9k","created_at_utc_A":1667458711,"created_at_utc_B":1667446377,"score_A":20,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","human_ref_B":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12334.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupybp","c_root_id_B":"iuv73r1","created_at_utc_A":1667446637,"created_at_utc_B":1667458711,"score_A":2,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12074.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv73r1","c_root_id_B":"iuuxotc","created_at_utc_A":1667458711,"created_at_utc_B":1667451313,"score_A":20,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If your pet is sick and you take them to the vet and it\u2019s an ongoing issue, insurance won\u2019t cover it because it will be considered a pre-existing condition.  If you do get insurance, don\u2019t determine which insurer based solely on price. Cheaper insurance covers less and has more exclusions.","human_ref_B":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7398.0,"score_ratio":10.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuz7aw","c_root_id_B":"iuvm53c","created_at_utc_A":1667452337,"created_at_utc_B":1667471996,"score_A":8,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","human_ref_B":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19659.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv3hnc","c_root_id_B":"iuvm53c","created_at_utc_A":1667455626,"created_at_utc_B":1667471996,"score_A":5,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","human_ref_B":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16370.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuvm53c","c_root_id_B":"iuuubcu","created_at_utc_A":1667471996,"created_at_utc_B":1667449148,"score_A":10,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","human_ref_B":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":22848.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv2945","c_root_id_B":"iuvm53c","created_at_utc_A":1667454633,"created_at_utc_B":1667471996,"score_A":3,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","human_ref_B":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":17363.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupg9k","c_root_id_B":"iuvm53c","created_at_utc_A":1667446377,"created_at_utc_B":1667471996,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","human_ref_B":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25619.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuvm53c","c_root_id_B":"iuupybp","created_at_utc_A":1667471996,"created_at_utc_B":1667446637,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","human_ref_B":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":25359.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuxotc","c_root_id_B":"iuvm53c","created_at_utc_A":1667451313,"created_at_utc_B":1667471996,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","human_ref_B":"**Legally speaking** ***\\*\\*\\*depending on local laws\\*\\*\\**** **vets shouldn't recommend particular insurance companies because they aren't insurance brokers...**  General pointers:  1) Don't ask your vet which companies they recommend, *ask which ones they wouldn't!*   2) Lifetime policies are generally better (although there are different tiers and length of cover within this)  3) Make sure you insure for a suitable monetary value (ie; \u00a34,000 minimum in the UK, \u00a34,000-8,000 if you want almost complete \"peace of mind\")  Be aware:  1) Failing to claim for an issue will not prevent your premiums increasing in the future!  2) Read your terms and conditions to make sure you are aware of what is or isn't covered, or how you can void your cover (eg; not keeping up to date with vaccinations or routine vet visits)  3) You will often still have to pay up front for the vast majority of treatment - despite what most insurance call handlers will tell you direct claims are a minefield!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20683.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuubcu","c_root_id_B":"iuuz7aw","created_at_utc_A":1667449148,"created_at_utc_B":1667452337,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","human_ref_B":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3189.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupg9k","c_root_id_B":"iuuz7aw","created_at_utc_A":1667446377,"created_at_utc_B":1667452337,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","human_ref_B":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5960.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuz7aw","c_root_id_B":"iuupybp","created_at_utc_A":1667452337,"created_at_utc_B":1667446637,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","human_ref_B":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5700.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuz7aw","c_root_id_B":"iuuxotc","created_at_utc_A":1667452337,"created_at_utc_B":1667451313,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I always hear horror stories about quotes people get from pet insurance and stuff but I did a lil shopping around for an hour one day and managed to get my 10 year old boxer dog covered through Embrace pet insurance for like 60 bucks a month, I set it up so they pay 90% up to 15,000 dollars. Within 6 months of signing up for her policy my dog fell ill and I have paid about 12,000 in vet bills so far and they\u2019ve covered everything no questions asked. It was like a gift from god tbh lol any place that\u2019s charging 100s and 100s  of dollars in pet insurance should be avoided and spit at.","human_ref_B":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1024.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuubcu","c_root_id_B":"iuv3hnc","created_at_utc_A":1667449148,"created_at_utc_B":1667455626,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","human_ref_B":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6478.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv3hnc","c_root_id_B":"iuv2945","created_at_utc_A":1667455626,"created_at_utc_B":1667454633,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":993.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupg9k","c_root_id_B":"iuv3hnc","created_at_utc_A":1667446377,"created_at_utc_B":1667455626,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","human_ref_B":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9249.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupybp","c_root_id_B":"iuv3hnc","created_at_utc_A":1667446637,"created_at_utc_B":1667455626,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8989.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv3hnc","c_root_id_B":"iuuxotc","created_at_utc_A":1667455626,"created_at_utc_B":1667451313,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I live in California and PetsBest has saved me.  My now 10 year corgi mix was diagnosed with an autoimmune blood disorder at the age of 7 after doing routine blood work for dental work. Then last month was diagnosed with lymphoma.   I have a $1000 deductible, that covers 90% after I reach it. I use it for diseases\/emergencies, instead of wellness. They make it very clear what is\/isn\u2019t covered along with which prescriptions are. It made it super easy for me to figure out what was and wasn\u2019t covered.","human_ref_B":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4313.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuuubcu","c_root_id_B":"iuupg9k","created_at_utc_A":1667449148,"created_at_utc_B":1667446377,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","human_ref_B":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2771.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupybp","c_root_id_B":"iuuubcu","created_at_utc_A":1667446637,"created_at_utc_B":1667449148,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"If you live in a high cost of living area, it may be prudent to go with a plan which reimburses on a percentage vs a schedule, so you're reimbursed commensurate with the price you paid.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2511.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv2945","c_root_id_B":"iuupg9k","created_at_utc_A":1667454633,"created_at_utc_B":1667446377,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","human_ref_B":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8256.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupybp","c_root_id_B":"iuv2945","created_at_utc_A":1667446637,"created_at_utc_B":1667454633,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7996.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuv2945","c_root_id_B":"iuuxotc","created_at_utc_A":1667454633,"created_at_utc_B":1667451313,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you\u2019re in the US, Healthy Paws is very good, but it\u2019s accident\/illness only (not preventative care).","human_ref_B":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3320.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupg9k","c_root_id_B":"iuwu7di","created_at_utc_A":1667446377,"created_at_utc_B":1667492842,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"So my experience with pet insurance is that you pay the vet upfront, and then submit the invoice to your pet insurance and they reimburse you for however much they cover. I\u2019m not sure if there are other companies that do it differently but that\u2019s been my experience with a few","human_ref_B":"I signed up for ASPCA\u2019s pet insurance which they do by partnering up with another company, my deductible is like 400 then they pay and they\u2019ll cover up to 4K per year. Haven\u2019t used it yet but my friend has it and says they pay no questions asked as long as it\u2019s covered and they cover a lot","labels":0,"seconds_difference":46465.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuupybp","c_root_id_B":"iuwu7di","created_at_utc_A":1667446637,"created_at_utc_B":1667492842,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This sub has pretty strict rules and the bots get triggered pretty easily. Might be hard to get some recommendations here. I\u2019ve seen this question on the dog advice sub quite a lot and the only one I\u2019ve seen people consistently happy with is Trupanion, though some people\u2019s quotes are unaffordable. Hope that helps at least a little. I\u2019d suggest trying another sub, but I know you are looking for Vet advice specifically. Best of luck!","human_ref_B":"I signed up for ASPCA\u2019s pet insurance which they do by partnering up with another company, my deductible is like 400 then they pay and they\u2019ll cover up to 4K per year. Haven\u2019t used it yet but my friend has it and says they pay no questions asked as long as it\u2019s covered and they cover a lot","labels":0,"seconds_difference":46205.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ykr34r","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Pet Insurance I have two pets and I know vet visits can definitely break a pocket. Is there a good pet insurance that Vets recommend? or one that\u2019s accepted everywhere?  I feel as if my cat is showing signs of sickness and i can afford it next visit but i want to take him immediately and will pay out of pocket. but in the future i want to make sure in case their are other costs, im protected.","c_root_id_A":"iuwu7di","c_root_id_B":"iuuxotc","created_at_utc_A":1667492842,"created_at_utc_B":1667451313,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I signed up for ASPCA\u2019s pet insurance which they do by partnering up with another company, my deductible is like 400 then they pay and they\u2019ll cover up to 4K per year. Haven\u2019t used it yet but my friend has it and says they pay no questions asked as long as it\u2019s covered and they cover a lot","human_ref_B":"Some financial institutions offer it (mine does). Wouldn\u2019t hurt to ask someone at your bank to see if it\u2019s offered.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":41529.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"9hhwx8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is there a general consensus on Pet Insurance? Is it a good deal or bad deal? Any clear winners in terms of companies? Any red flags to watch out for? Any tips on getting the most out of your coverage? I\u2019ve been trying to figure out if getting Pet Insurance is a good investment. I\u2019ve settled on two kinds, Healthy Paws and Figo (leaning towards them), based on their costs, what they cover, and reviews on ease of use\/reimbursements, but I\u2019m still not sure if it\u2019s something I should do.  I had a cat growing up, but was never the one responsible for her healthcare or vet bills so now that I\u2019ve adopted one as an adult, I\u2019m not really sure what to expect. I want to make sure I\u2019m prepared for anything that might come up and that I\u2019ll be able to take the best care of my cat as possible. I\u2019m a little paranoid that if I don\u2019t get her insurance early on that any illness\/issue she might develop in the meantime would be considered a preexisting condition that wouldn\u2019t be covered, but at the same time, that means that I\u2019d be signing up to keep paying to have her insured indefinitely so that there would be no lapses in coverage later on where that same worry could happen as well.  My cat is pretty young and I haven\u2019t found a vet\/clinic to be her \u201cregular\u201d vet, so I don\u2019t have a trusted one to ask and I don\u2019t have any friends who have insurance for their pets that can give me any recommendations either.  Any vets or vet clinic employees who have any experience with it and whether it\u2019s worthwhile? Any companies that you really recommend or that I should definitely stay away from? Any types people\/pets that are particularly good candidates for insurance? Do you have any pointers on how to get the most from your pet insurance or if you actually *don\u2019t* recommend it, what are some other alternatives? Or any pet owners who have any info, good or bad, on particular companies or plans?  I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s curious and simultaneously feeling totally lost, so any info is helpful! Thanks :)","c_root_id_A":"e6c53zh","c_root_id_B":"e6c5gqq","created_at_utc_A":1537473292,"created_at_utc_B":1537473579,"score_A":22,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"In general, I think pet insurance is a great option for the average pet owner. Veterinary medicine is expensive, and life threatening or serious illness is also quite expensive. Having pet insurance opens up a lot of options without having to factor in cost as heavily (you still have to pay up front at most vets, but knowing you'll be reimbursed is super nice).   With a younger healthy pet you can usually lock in at a lower monthly rate. I've worked in regular and emergency veterinary places and even WITH my discount pet insurance has saved me hundreds of dollars. Plus I like knowing that if one of my boys blocked, got diabetes, hyperthyroid, or escaped and broke a leg that I could focus on treatment options instead of costs, and\/or not have to consider euthanasia because I don't currently have a grand or more saved up.   I've only personally met one couple who it wouldn't be a great option for, as they had a large 'pet emergency fund' of their own stashed away, and were living a quite comfortable retirement. Comfortable enough to check in with a behaviorist when puppy wasn't potty training as fast or easy as they though she should. They totally could've dropped 8gs NBD if the pet needed it.","human_ref_B":"As a general rule, nobody would offer insurance if they paid out more to their average customer than they take in in premiums, so if you have the means to cover an emergency (~$3k), just paying the equivalent of the monthly premium into a dedicated bank account and using that for veterinary expenses will on average be cheaper, and has the additional advantage that the money won't simply vanish once the pet dies.  If you don't have the reserves to cover an emergency, insurance is a good idea. Given that all forms of pet insurance exclude pre-existing conditions, it is usually better to get it sooner rather than later, because the number of pre-existing conditions will only increase over time.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":287.0,"score_ratio":2.7727272727}
{"post_id":"9hhwx8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is there a general consensus on Pet Insurance? Is it a good deal or bad deal? Any clear winners in terms of companies? Any red flags to watch out for? Any tips on getting the most out of your coverage? I\u2019ve been trying to figure out if getting Pet Insurance is a good investment. I\u2019ve settled on two kinds, Healthy Paws and Figo (leaning towards them), based on their costs, what they cover, and reviews on ease of use\/reimbursements, but I\u2019m still not sure if it\u2019s something I should do.  I had a cat growing up, but was never the one responsible for her healthcare or vet bills so now that I\u2019ve adopted one as an adult, I\u2019m not really sure what to expect. I want to make sure I\u2019m prepared for anything that might come up and that I\u2019ll be able to take the best care of my cat as possible. I\u2019m a little paranoid that if I don\u2019t get her insurance early on that any illness\/issue she might develop in the meantime would be considered a preexisting condition that wouldn\u2019t be covered, but at the same time, that means that I\u2019d be signing up to keep paying to have her insured indefinitely so that there would be no lapses in coverage later on where that same worry could happen as well.  My cat is pretty young and I haven\u2019t found a vet\/clinic to be her \u201cregular\u201d vet, so I don\u2019t have a trusted one to ask and I don\u2019t have any friends who have insurance for their pets that can give me any recommendations either.  Any vets or vet clinic employees who have any experience with it and whether it\u2019s worthwhile? Any companies that you really recommend or that I should definitely stay away from? Any types people\/pets that are particularly good candidates for insurance? Do you have any pointers on how to get the most from your pet insurance or if you actually *don\u2019t* recommend it, what are some other alternatives? Or any pet owners who have any info, good or bad, on particular companies or plans?  I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s curious and simultaneously feeling totally lost, so any info is helpful! Thanks :)","c_root_id_A":"e6c5gqq","c_root_id_B":"e6c55dc","created_at_utc_A":1537473579,"created_at_utc_B":1537473322,"score_A":61,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"As a general rule, nobody would offer insurance if they paid out more to their average customer than they take in in premiums, so if you have the means to cover an emergency (~$3k), just paying the equivalent of the monthly premium into a dedicated bank account and using that for veterinary expenses will on average be cheaper, and has the additional advantage that the money won't simply vanish once the pet dies.  If you don't have the reserves to cover an emergency, insurance is a good idea. Given that all forms of pet insurance exclude pre-existing conditions, it is usually better to get it sooner rather than later, because the number of pre-existing conditions will only increase over time.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but a current Figo customer. I have posted about this before but will reiterate what I\u2019ve said because I do t feel like searching.   I have two mutts, both now insured with figo. Our first dog was insured with figo very soon after we got her at the advise of several people, family, and our vet. For what it\u2019s worth my sister in law has healthy paws for her purebred German Shepard and seems to really like it. My older dog who is still young (under 2) vegan having urinary incontinence issues very soon after we got her but definitely after starting the insurance. We had some issues getting them to pay claims initially as she had a uti when we got her and they saw that as a preexisting condition even though the two issues were unrelated. After a fairly easy process of disputing the denied claims and providing evidence via vet records and an actual letter from our vet, we immediately received quite a few checks from them for the past almost year of treatment and medication. We were super grateful for that and although her exact condition still isn\u2019t clear, I know I feel a whole lot better doing the tests we need to do knowing that I\u2019ll receive 80% of the cost back in an extremely timely manner. Hope this helps and feel free to pm me with any questions.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":257.0,"score_ratio":6.1}
{"post_id":"9hhwx8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is there a general consensus on Pet Insurance? Is it a good deal or bad deal? Any clear winners in terms of companies? Any red flags to watch out for? Any tips on getting the most out of your coverage? I\u2019ve been trying to figure out if getting Pet Insurance is a good investment. I\u2019ve settled on two kinds, Healthy Paws and Figo (leaning towards them), based on their costs, what they cover, and reviews on ease of use\/reimbursements, but I\u2019m still not sure if it\u2019s something I should do.  I had a cat growing up, but was never the one responsible for her healthcare or vet bills so now that I\u2019ve adopted one as an adult, I\u2019m not really sure what to expect. I want to make sure I\u2019m prepared for anything that might come up and that I\u2019ll be able to take the best care of my cat as possible. I\u2019m a little paranoid that if I don\u2019t get her insurance early on that any illness\/issue she might develop in the meantime would be considered a preexisting condition that wouldn\u2019t be covered, but at the same time, that means that I\u2019d be signing up to keep paying to have her insured indefinitely so that there would be no lapses in coverage later on where that same worry could happen as well.  My cat is pretty young and I haven\u2019t found a vet\/clinic to be her \u201cregular\u201d vet, so I don\u2019t have a trusted one to ask and I don\u2019t have any friends who have insurance for their pets that can give me any recommendations either.  Any vets or vet clinic employees who have any experience with it and whether it\u2019s worthwhile? Any companies that you really recommend or that I should definitely stay away from? Any types people\/pets that are particularly good candidates for insurance? Do you have any pointers on how to get the most from your pet insurance or if you actually *don\u2019t* recommend it, what are some other alternatives? Or any pet owners who have any info, good or bad, on particular companies or plans?  I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s curious and simultaneously feeling totally lost, so any info is helpful! Thanks :)","c_root_id_A":"e6cc0dt","c_root_id_B":"e6d00pc","created_at_utc_A":1537479131,"created_at_utc_B":1537502103,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Personally as a vet tech, I just signed my pets up for pet insurance. I decided pet plan over healthy paws because healthy paws does not cover exam fees. So if i needed to go to a specialist that at least 100$ on the exam right there or an emergency visit at 3 AM to local emergency hospital 100$ just to be seen. I do not work in an ER or have any orthopedic supplies at my work. So anything not run of the mill I would have to go elsewhere and I wouldn't get my staff discount. My 2 cats are 100% healthy and are only 4 years old. I do have savings saved up for them and could probably pay my way through it but I like paying a small amount each year to know I won't have to panic when the time comes ( what if I was laid off that year and used my pet savings for bills or lost\/quit my job due to an injury\/illness or something) If my cat gets cancer would I have saved up to 15k for cancer treatment hell no. Also I won't have to convince my husband our cats are worth spending 7k on for some crazy illness\/surgery because I know ill get 80% of it back makes the conversation a lot easier to have since hes not in the field he does not share my desire to treat and save all the pets.  I have had a friend go with healthy paws and she loved the convenience of the mobile app and she got paid quickly. Also healthy paws has a 10% off for AAA members so if that helps you at all. Personally I found pet plan to have the best rates so check them out if you haven't. As a tech I've seen owners much happier that they had pet insurance than not. I do think the wellness plans are a waste with vaccines and annual visits, if you can't budget  for those costs maybe a pet is not for you.","human_ref_B":"Full disclosure: I\u2019m a project manager for a major (Fortune 100) insurance company that sells pet insurance, and in that company\u2019s division that sells it.   From my perspective, it\u2019s well worth it IF you aren\u2019t comfortably able to cover a severe veterinary emergency. I lost a cat a few months ago after a long fight with kidney failure. During her 13-year life, she also had hyperthyroidism treated with radioactive iodine and a long run with food allergies. If I\u2019d had pet insurance on her, I probably would have come out financially ahead with it. I was able to cover her care out of pocket reasonably comfortably, though.   For an average cat or dog, you\u2019re going to pay out more in premiums than you\u2019ll get in benefits. That\u2019s how insurance works. You buy it to make sure that if you end up at the high end, where you are getting more back, you have the financial capability to pay for your pet\u2019s care.  Whether that\u2019s worth it is going to vary based on your specific situation.   If anyone has questions about the mechanics of how pet insurance works I\u2019m happy to answer them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22972.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"9hhwx8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is there a general consensus on Pet Insurance? Is it a good deal or bad deal? Any clear winners in terms of companies? Any red flags to watch out for? Any tips on getting the most out of your coverage? I\u2019ve been trying to figure out if getting Pet Insurance is a good investment. I\u2019ve settled on two kinds, Healthy Paws and Figo (leaning towards them), based on their costs, what they cover, and reviews on ease of use\/reimbursements, but I\u2019m still not sure if it\u2019s something I should do.  I had a cat growing up, but was never the one responsible for her healthcare or vet bills so now that I\u2019ve adopted one as an adult, I\u2019m not really sure what to expect. I want to make sure I\u2019m prepared for anything that might come up and that I\u2019ll be able to take the best care of my cat as possible. I\u2019m a little paranoid that if I don\u2019t get her insurance early on that any illness\/issue she might develop in the meantime would be considered a preexisting condition that wouldn\u2019t be covered, but at the same time, that means that I\u2019d be signing up to keep paying to have her insured indefinitely so that there would be no lapses in coverage later on where that same worry could happen as well.  My cat is pretty young and I haven\u2019t found a vet\/clinic to be her \u201cregular\u201d vet, so I don\u2019t have a trusted one to ask and I don\u2019t have any friends who have insurance for their pets that can give me any recommendations either.  Any vets or vet clinic employees who have any experience with it and whether it\u2019s worthwhile? Any companies that you really recommend or that I should definitely stay away from? Any types people\/pets that are particularly good candidates for insurance? Do you have any pointers on how to get the most from your pet insurance or if you actually *don\u2019t* recommend it, what are some other alternatives? Or any pet owners who have any info, good or bad, on particular companies or plans?  I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s curious and simultaneously feeling totally lost, so any info is helpful! Thanks :)","c_root_id_A":"e6cwxbq","c_root_id_B":"e6d00pc","created_at_utc_A":1537499031,"created_at_utc_B":1537502103,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"A big Yes on pet insurance. Get it when your pets are healthy.  Just please don't come to the vet prior to enrolling, discuss ongoing health concerns, and then get mad at us (vets) for documenting our conversation and findings in our records. The pet insurer will look at our records, then designate the health concerns we discussed as pre-existing conditions. This is how insurance works.  No, we will not change our records in order to commit insurance fraud on your behalf. No, it doesn't matter that you thought the health concern wasn't a big deal and just mentioned it in passing.  I'm salty because these situations have come up too frequently lately. (Vet here.)","human_ref_B":"Full disclosure: I\u2019m a project manager for a major (Fortune 100) insurance company that sells pet insurance, and in that company\u2019s division that sells it.   From my perspective, it\u2019s well worth it IF you aren\u2019t comfortably able to cover a severe veterinary emergency. I lost a cat a few months ago after a long fight with kidney failure. During her 13-year life, she also had hyperthyroidism treated with radioactive iodine and a long run with food allergies. If I\u2019d had pet insurance on her, I probably would have come out financially ahead with it. I was able to cover her care out of pocket reasonably comfortably, though.   For an average cat or dog, you\u2019re going to pay out more in premiums than you\u2019ll get in benefits. That\u2019s how insurance works. You buy it to make sure that if you end up at the high end, where you are getting more back, you have the financial capability to pay for your pet\u2019s care.  Whether that\u2019s worth it is going to vary based on your specific situation.   If anyone has questions about the mechanics of how pet insurance works I\u2019m happy to answer them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3072.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"9hhwx8","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"Is there a general consensus on Pet Insurance? Is it a good deal or bad deal? Any clear winners in terms of companies? Any red flags to watch out for? Any tips on getting the most out of your coverage? I\u2019ve been trying to figure out if getting Pet Insurance is a good investment. I\u2019ve settled on two kinds, Healthy Paws and Figo (leaning towards them), based on their costs, what they cover, and reviews on ease of use\/reimbursements, but I\u2019m still not sure if it\u2019s something I should do.  I had a cat growing up, but was never the one responsible for her healthcare or vet bills so now that I\u2019ve adopted one as an adult, I\u2019m not really sure what to expect. I want to make sure I\u2019m prepared for anything that might come up and that I\u2019ll be able to take the best care of my cat as possible. I\u2019m a little paranoid that if I don\u2019t get her insurance early on that any illness\/issue she might develop in the meantime would be considered a preexisting condition that wouldn\u2019t be covered, but at the same time, that means that I\u2019d be signing up to keep paying to have her insured indefinitely so that there would be no lapses in coverage later on where that same worry could happen as well.  My cat is pretty young and I haven\u2019t found a vet\/clinic to be her \u201cregular\u201d vet, so I don\u2019t have a trusted one to ask and I don\u2019t have any friends who have insurance for their pets that can give me any recommendations either.  Any vets or vet clinic employees who have any experience with it and whether it\u2019s worthwhile? Any companies that you really recommend or that I should definitely stay away from? Any types people\/pets that are particularly good candidates for insurance? Do you have any pointers on how to get the most from your pet insurance or if you actually *don\u2019t* recommend it, what are some other alternatives? Or any pet owners who have any info, good or bad, on particular companies or plans?  I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s curious and simultaneously feeling totally lost, so any info is helpful! Thanks :)","c_root_id_A":"e6cztjo","c_root_id_B":"e6d00pc","created_at_utc_A":1537501877,"created_at_utc_B":1537502103,"score_A":3,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I personally think insurance is a great option. Even if you have savings, it can be hard to plan for big emergencies, lots of little emergencies all in a row, long term care, etc. Clients with pet insurance also don't usually have the same concerns with treating their pets as others do - they are able to do whatever is needed to help their animal.  Here is a great chart from DVM360 comparing several insurance companies.  I also put together a little spreadsheet for myself \\- you might find it helpful for comparing prices (but not for finding exact prices ;P). For context this is for a \\~1 year old MN cat. Price also varies by zip code. Nationwide is the only one that has per-illness incident limits, so we generally don't recommend them (though they are the only ones that cover exotics).  I personally went with PetPlan. They also have a discount if you pay for the entire year (on top of the up to 10% off you can get otherwise). However, you do have to get your pet in to see the vet within 48 hours of noticing the clinical sign. This might be difficult to do, so be aware of that. ASPCA was the other main one I considered.  Only one of my cats is on insurance - the younger one, who has some benign congenital issues. Congenital issues are covered by PetPlan, as long as they didn't have clinical signs before being on the insurance. I just want to make sure if any other issues pop up he is covered. My other cat is a little older and has had no health issues, so I haven't put her on insurance yet. (Though if you wait until after a health issue appears it  isn't covered - unless they fully recover from it.)","human_ref_B":"Full disclosure: I\u2019m a project manager for a major (Fortune 100) insurance company that sells pet insurance, and in that company\u2019s division that sells it.   From my perspective, it\u2019s well worth it IF you aren\u2019t comfortably able to cover a severe veterinary emergency. I lost a cat a few months ago after a long fight with kidney failure. During her 13-year life, she also had hyperthyroidism treated with radioactive iodine and a long run with food allergies. If I\u2019d had pet insurance on her, I probably would have come out financially ahead with it. I was able to cover her care out of pocket reasonably comfortably, though.   For an average cat or dog, you\u2019re going to pay out more in premiums than you\u2019ll get in benefits. That\u2019s how insurance works. You buy it to make sure that if you end up at the high end, where you are getting more back, you have the financial capability to pay for your pet\u2019s care.  Whether that\u2019s worth it is going to vary based on your specific situation.   If anyone has questions about the mechanics of how pet insurance works I\u2019m happy to answer them.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":226.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"2op00c","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets: how do you deal with making mistakes? I'm currently doing the prerequisites in order to become a vet. The thing that worries me the most is making a mistake that cost the life of my patient. I understand that no one is perfect and at some point I won't do the best thing for a patient. My question is how to get over the fact your actions may have resulted in the death of your patient?","c_root_id_A":"cmph43g","c_root_id_B":"cmpe60x","created_at_utc_A":1418101854,"created_at_utc_B":1418095631,"score_A":12,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I once had the same fear. I will tell you what I was told by one of my mentors about what it means to *practice* veterinary medicine:  Every day you go to work and you give all of your effort to provide the best care you know how. You will make many mistakes, probably on a daily basis, but you strive to be better with each passing day, and make a point not to make the same mistake twice. So with every mistake you make, even if it means harming an animal, you will learn a lesson that will help you to provide better care for every animal that comes after that mistake.","human_ref_B":"It happens. It sucks. The biggest thing for me personally is to make sure that that animal didn't die in vain and that I NEVER make that same mistake again. Not really sure I have a practical way of telling you how to deal with it; everyone deals with things differently. It's a terrible feeling. Just try to always be very careful and prepare for cases as well as you can to minimize major mistakes.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6223.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"pb7en5","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"My cat has a really bad wound, vet in the AM, just need some advice Species: Cat  Age: 11 Years Old  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Shorthaired Cat  Body weight: Unknown  History: Flea allergy  Clinical signs: Multiple wounds which are hot to the touch and leak a clear fluid - https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/RcZWkrA.jpg - his fur is also very rough and not smooth at all, like it used to be.  Duration: Unknown, please read below  Your general location: Kentucky, USA  BACKGROUND:  My parents have been \"taking care\" of my 3 cats for me for the last several years. A few months ago I visited home and found that my oldest cat had a wound under his leg that looks similar to the picture above that it looks currently. I took him to the vet, who said it was due to fleas and a flea allergy and he was given antibiotics and flea medicine. He has been on flea preventative since, and no longer has fleas.  Once his fleas cleared up, so did his wound.   I just moved back home to find that my cat has the same wound that has reappeared. I asked my parents how long it's been there and they said it got progressively worse over the span of a few months. I immediately scheduled another vet appointment, which is in approximately 4 hours.  However, we live in a very tiny town the our vet is a farm vet, not a regular vet. I'm just looking for some advice on what to ask for.   Should I ask for a blood test? Skin scraping? Do you believe it could still be fleas that bite him before they die? Hot spot?  I'm just not sure what to ask the vet for, because I am not a vet or trained in animal medicine in any way.","c_root_id_A":"haam8s2","c_root_id_B":"haa6vbw","created_at_utc_A":1629900764,"created_at_utc_B":1629893339,"score_A":26,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Your vet is right, this likely is an allergic response. Fleas are very important to rule out, then next consider food allergy, mites, atopy, etc. If the vet recommends it, consider a referral to a board certified vet dermatologist!   Prevent him from licking\/scratching, that is key too!","human_ref_B":"When an older cat, be careful if the veterinarian wants to give any long lasting steroid injections without doing bloodwork and a chest x-ray. If steroids are indicated, ask for oral","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7425.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"8cjohz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Found a kitten no more that 2 weeks old. Covered in fire ants. What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"dxfh0pa","c_root_id_B":"dxfic0h","created_at_utc_A":1523840250,"created_at_utc_B":1523841749,"score_A":20,"score_B":63,"human_ref_A":"Bring them to an emergency veterinarian clinic if you have one","human_ref_B":"Get the ants off the kitten, but do not bathe them off. Kittens this young cannot regulate their body temperature, and being wet is very dangerous for them. If you have a vet clinic near you that is open, take the kitten in for an exam and to ask for guidance.  Check to see if the kitten is warm. This is more important than feeding. Never feed a cold kitten! If the kittens are cold, you will need to warm them up slowly. You can tell a kitten is cold if the pads of his feet and\/or ears feel cool or cold. Put your finger in the kitten\u2019s mouth. If it feels cold, then the kitten\u2019s temperature is too low. This is life-threatening and must be dealt with immediately. Warm up the kitten slowly over 20 minutes by wrapping him in a towel or baby blanket, holding him close to your body, and continually rubbing him with your warm hands. (Info copied from this website: http:\/\/www.animalalliancenyc.org\/wordpress\/2013\/05\/what-to-do-and-not-do-if-you-find-a-newborn-kitten\/)  For food, you will need to find a kitten milk replacer. KMR is a popular brand that many use in the United States. This website has videos showing how to bottle feed and stimulate to urinate and defecate (young kittens cannot go on their own--they need their mother to stimulate them to do so): http:\/\/www.maddiesfund.org\/orphaned-kitten-care-how-to.htm","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1499.0,"score_ratio":3.15}
{"post_id":"a4lu8m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat scratching sides of litter box My two year old orange tabby cat has been doing this thing where she paws at every corner of her cat box. It can last 5-10 minutes if uninterrupted. She has had this behavior for a year, but lately, it has been happening more (every night, multiple times). We scoop the box every morning and every night (we thought she was bothered by the box being dirty), but she still does this. It's a large sized box, and she's definitely on the small side (7 lbs maybe?). We did move to a new place a month ago, so she could still be stressed about that.  This behavior is loud, it wakes us up at night, and we just want to figure out what's going on. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"ebfrx9s","c_root_id_B":"ebg0ebf","created_at_utc_A":1544376013,"created_at_utc_B":1544382025,"score_A":4,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Is she pooping and peeing every day?","human_ref_B":"Probably cleaning her feet. A lot of cats do this. Part of their ritual cleaning process.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6012.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"a4lu8m","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Cat scratching sides of litter box My two year old orange tabby cat has been doing this thing where she paws at every corner of her cat box. It can last 5-10 minutes if uninterrupted. She has had this behavior for a year, but lately, it has been happening more (every night, multiple times). We scoop the box every morning and every night (we thought she was bothered by the box being dirty), but she still does this. It's a large sized box, and she's definitely on the small side (7 lbs maybe?). We did move to a new place a month ago, so she could still be stressed about that.  This behavior is loud, it wakes us up at night, and we just want to figure out what's going on. Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"ebg0ebf","c_root_id_B":"ebfvxu7","created_at_utc_A":1544382025,"created_at_utc_B":1544378831,"score_A":13,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Probably cleaning her feet. A lot of cats do this. Part of their ritual cleaning process.","human_ref_B":"Is there enough litter inside the box? Are you sure she\u2019s not trying to cover up her poop\/pee and can\u2019t get it covered fully?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3194.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"jtxc5k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"What do you feed your dogs? Hi vet\u2019s just curious to what you feed your dogs? Which brand of food do vet\u2019s feed their dogs? Also do you feed with calories or by the bag?","c_root_id_A":"gcbv6bf","c_root_id_B":"gcbcltv","created_at_utc_A":1605409669,"created_at_utc_B":1605402711,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Hills Science Diet","human_ref_B":"Hills Science i\/d low fat but that is vet prescribed","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6958.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"jtxc5k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"What do you feed your dogs? Hi vet\u2019s just curious to what you feed your dogs? Which brand of food do vet\u2019s feed their dogs? Also do you feed with calories or by the bag?","c_root_id_A":"gc8s0fw","c_root_id_B":"gcbv6bf","created_at_utc_A":1605351106,"created_at_utc_B":1605409669,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Male Mutt Lab mix of somekind, about 3.5kgs, between 2-4 months old. How many servings per day or how many grams per serving? We are currently feeding him about 100g in 5 servings throughout with a puppy food brand that seems to fit. No previous problems from what we know of.","human_ref_B":"Hills Science Diet","labels":0,"seconds_difference":58563.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"jtxc5k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"What do you feed your dogs? Hi vet\u2019s just curious to what you feed your dogs? Which brand of food do vet\u2019s feed their dogs? Also do you feed with calories or by the bag?","c_root_id_A":"gc8s0fw","c_root_id_B":"gcbcltv","created_at_utc_A":1605351106,"created_at_utc_B":1605402711,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Male Mutt Lab mix of somekind, about 3.5kgs, between 2-4 months old. How many servings per day or how many grams per serving? We are currently feeding him about 100g in 5 servings throughout with a puppy food brand that seems to fit. No previous problems from what we know of.","human_ref_B":"Hills Science i\/d low fat but that is vet prescribed","labels":0,"seconds_difference":51605.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"jtxc5k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"What do you feed your dogs? Hi vet\u2019s just curious to what you feed your dogs? Which brand of food do vet\u2019s feed their dogs? Also do you feed with calories or by the bag?","c_root_id_A":"gc8s0fw","c_root_id_B":"gccaipy","created_at_utc_A":1605351106,"created_at_utc_B":1605415666,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Male Mutt Lab mix of somekind, about 3.5kgs, between 2-4 months old. How many servings per day or how many grams per serving? We are currently feeding him about 100g in 5 servings throughout with a puppy food brand that seems to fit. No previous problems from what we know of.","human_ref_B":"Hill's science diet healthy advantage","labels":0,"seconds_difference":64560.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"jtxc5k","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"What do you feed your dogs? Hi vet\u2019s just curious to what you feed your dogs? Which brand of food do vet\u2019s feed their dogs? Also do you feed with calories or by the bag?","c_root_id_A":"gc8s0fw","c_root_id_B":"gccamaq","created_at_utc_A":1605351106,"created_at_utc_B":1605415703,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Male Mutt Lab mix of somekind, about 3.5kgs, between 2-4 months old. How many servings per day or how many grams per serving? We are currently feeding him about 100g in 5 servings throughout with a puppy food brand that seems to fit. No previous problems from what we know of.","human_ref_B":"Hill\u2019s I\/D Low Fat for my two dogs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":64597.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yas22l","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"My Dog Chewed a Battery My wife just happened to notice our 18 month old Old English Bulldogge chewing on an old battery in the backyard. Pisses me off because we don't have anything that could hurt him back there, so some neighbor tossed it over at some point.   When I inspected his mouth he didn't have any of the powder in it. Just on the outside, what we would call lips on a human. He's acting like his normal hyper energy self. We are supposed to leave town in a few hours. Is it imperative to take him to a vet? Here is a photo of the battery  Any help would be very much appreciated.    The two pics I took of the battery different angles. Tried to upload on imgur but it kept freezing. Used canva instead.     https:\/\/www.canva.com\/design\/DAFPyKCpzeU\/YtbszBHf40ayrYbuEM5Sdg\/edit?utm_content=DAFPyKCpzeU&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=sharebutton","c_root_id_A":"itd264o","c_root_id_B":"itdjtp5","created_at_utc_A":1666463964,"created_at_utc_B":1666471326,"score_A":7,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"https:\/\/www.petpoisonhelpline.com  Not a vet- ER visit or at least a call to poison helpline. there is risk of significant damage to the esophagus and stomach. Battery acid is no joke https:\/\/www.aspca.org\/news\/dangers-batteries-and-your-pets-what-you-should-know  ETA: battery specific page https:\/\/www.petpoisonhelpline.com\/poison\/batteries\/","human_ref_B":"You should go to an emergency vet right away.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7362.0,"score_ratio":1.1428571429}
{"post_id":"2tncbo","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.74,"history":"just bought a puppy. it threw this lovely thing up in the box on the way home. what is it and how do i get rid of it? http:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/KXIWs  Species: dog  Age: three months  Sex\/Neuter status: male  Breed: half pit half lab  Body weight: maybe seven pounds  History: just got it today  Clinical signs: worm in vomit  Duration: a couple hours  Your general location: midwest US","c_root_id_A":"co0lgyi","c_root_id_B":"co0k36b","created_at_utc_A":1422222673,"created_at_utc_B":1422220123,"score_A":22,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"It's always a good idea to have a new pet examined withing 72 hours of bringing it home. Show the picture to the vet, and best yet to bring a fresh poop sample with you to the appointment.   This looks like a roundworm, which is pretty common in puppies. But there is a chance of your puppy having other intestinal parasites as well, so it's usually best to start with a dewormer from your vet after they take a look at his poop.","human_ref_B":"Some sort of nematode, probably *Toxocara canis*. You need to take your new puppy to the vet to get him checked for health issues and started on his shots anyway, so make an appointment for next week and discuss deworming with your vet.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2550.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"8a7kbz","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"I have a cat born without a tail. I have other cats with tails. Does my tailless cat know its tailless?","c_root_id_A":"dwwpfqh","c_root_id_B":"dwwli27","created_at_utc_A":1523016417,"created_at_utc_B":1523009534,"score_A":79,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"This is a very profound question. For maximal karma returns, I suggest posting this on \/r\/ShowerThoughts.","human_ref_B":"Probably, but not in the way we would be self conscious if we were born missing a finger.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6883.0,"score_ratio":4.3888888889}
{"post_id":"9xtc6f","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"What kind of worm is this in my dog? He's going to the vet in the morning, but knowing what it is might help me sleep better. He's a 14yo, 25lb mixed male. Has liver problems and has been developing various skin tags and lumps over the last few years. Last night I noticed a sore spot, then a second one tonight. A little white \"string\" caught my attention and when I tugged on it, about 1.5 inches came out before getting tight. I cut it off to take to the vet tomorrow. We live in West Tennessee and he is a 99% indoor dog.  https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/5jnL0KU.jpg  https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/iG2Oj4g.jpg  &#x200B;","c_root_id_A":"e9vw5us","c_root_id_B":"e9w20nt","created_at_utc_A":1542466275,"created_at_utc_B":1542470125,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Let us know!","human_ref_B":"Consider wearing gloves too when handling any possible parasites like that. Better to err on the side of caution.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3850.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"radesj","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.77,"history":"I missed my 4th rabies shot and its been over 40 days since i was supposed to take it ? am i going to be okay? So on October 6th a 40 day  stray kitten lightly bit me on my thumb and me being paranoid i took the rabies shots but they were supposed to be 5 but i only took 3 and forgot and got caught up so now i'm about 40 days late on my 4th shot. its been about 60 days or so from the bite am i going to be okay because i'm slowly losing my mind","c_root_id_A":"hnhicoj","c_root_id_B":"hnhhzpu","created_at_utc_A":1638813864,"created_at_utc_B":1638813723,"score_A":320,"score_B":133,"human_ref_A":"If you are a human you need to speak to a doctor, not a vet.","human_ref_B":"Contact your physician.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":141.0,"score_ratio":2.4060150376}
{"post_id":"9bohry","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"First checkup for two, three year old dogs (Golden Retriever & Black Lab) after 6 months on raw meat diet. What should I ask the vet? I understand that there is no consensus on raw meat diets for dogs yet but I'm trying to make up my own mind. My dogs have been on an all raw (mostly meat) diet for six months. They look fantastic. Sparkling white teeth and my Black Lab's coat is really remarkable. She looks like a little show horse! I am also enjoying the tiny and mostly scentless poops.  But.... It's expensive ($200+ a month), it's kind of gross and it's a major pain in the ass. I don't have a car, so picking up 15 pounds of frozen meat once a week is no small feat. My Golden Retriever is surprisingly unimpressed with his expensive all meat diet and has to be convinced to eat more often then not.  So, if it's not doing my dogs a whole lot of good, I'm probably going to switch back to something I can at least get at the pet store around the corner.   What tests should I ask for? How do I get a picture of my dogs over all nutritional health? Is there a test that will validate the diet in the first place?","c_root_id_A":"e54lmg1","c_root_id_B":"e54jvqg","created_at_utc_A":1535674623,"created_at_utc_B":1535672936,"score_A":47,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Just something to help weigh in on your final decision: raw meat is a known source of food borne illness. Dogs aren\u2019t magically immune to these illnesses just because they are dogs. Feeding raw is also a risk to you. Even if you wash your hands after preparing their meal, the bacteria can hang around in their mouths. If your pups give you kisses, they can pass something that was in the meat on to you.","human_ref_B":"You need to let your vet know how much, and what you are feeding them. I would request and extensive blood panel for each of them to be performed.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1687.0,"score_ratio":2.9375}
{"post_id":"9bohry","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"First checkup for two, three year old dogs (Golden Retriever & Black Lab) after 6 months on raw meat diet. What should I ask the vet? I understand that there is no consensus on raw meat diets for dogs yet but I'm trying to make up my own mind. My dogs have been on an all raw (mostly meat) diet for six months. They look fantastic. Sparkling white teeth and my Black Lab's coat is really remarkable. She looks like a little show horse! I am also enjoying the tiny and mostly scentless poops.  But.... It's expensive ($200+ a month), it's kind of gross and it's a major pain in the ass. I don't have a car, so picking up 15 pounds of frozen meat once a week is no small feat. My Golden Retriever is surprisingly unimpressed with his expensive all meat diet and has to be convinced to eat more often then not.  So, if it's not doing my dogs a whole lot of good, I'm probably going to switch back to something I can at least get at the pet store around the corner.   What tests should I ask for? How do I get a picture of my dogs over all nutritional health? Is there a test that will validate the diet in the first place?","c_root_id_A":"e54jvqg","c_root_id_B":"e54pcnz","created_at_utc_A":1535672936,"created_at_utc_B":1535678254,"score_A":16,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"You need to let your vet know how much, and what you are feeding them. I would request and extensive blood panel for each of them to be performed.","human_ref_B":"Although you mention controversy, there is growing evidence that raw meat diets for dogs carry all the risks and lack of benefits that we would expect from eating raw meat ourselves. A good synopsis is available here: http:\/\/vetnutrition.tufts.edu\/2016\/01\/raw-diets-a-healthy-choice-or-a-raw-deal\/  What is challenging is that routine laboratory testing does not easily find subtle nutritional deficiencies. It is also likely that the results of feeding a raw diet will not become evident on diagnostic testing for years. Lastly, to answer your last question directly, there is no test that \"validates\" a raw diet.  I concur with u\/TheIrishOBrien: get the most extensive testing you can, which will assess organ function, blood counts, electrolytes, and possibly other parameters, to get the best health assessment you can on your pups - it is still possible to find dysfunction secondary to nutrition, or subclinical infection even if dietary assessment cannot be directly achieved.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5318.0,"score_ratio":2.4375}
{"post_id":"9bohry","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"First checkup for two, three year old dogs (Golden Retriever & Black Lab) after 6 months on raw meat diet. What should I ask the vet? I understand that there is no consensus on raw meat diets for dogs yet but I'm trying to make up my own mind. My dogs have been on an all raw (mostly meat) diet for six months. They look fantastic. Sparkling white teeth and my Black Lab's coat is really remarkable. She looks like a little show horse! I am also enjoying the tiny and mostly scentless poops.  But.... It's expensive ($200+ a month), it's kind of gross and it's a major pain in the ass. I don't have a car, so picking up 15 pounds of frozen meat once a week is no small feat. My Golden Retriever is surprisingly unimpressed with his expensive all meat diet and has to be convinced to eat more often then not.  So, if it's not doing my dogs a whole lot of good, I'm probably going to switch back to something I can at least get at the pet store around the corner.   What tests should I ask for? How do I get a picture of my dogs over all nutritional health? Is there a test that will validate the diet in the first place?","c_root_id_A":"e54jvqg","c_root_id_B":"e54pf9r","created_at_utc_A":1535672936,"created_at_utc_B":1535678325,"score_A":16,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"You need to let your vet know how much, and what you are feeding them. I would request and extensive blood panel for each of them to be performed.","human_ref_B":"There is a very clear consensus, which is linked in a review paper in our side bar: Raw feeding offers no benefits to the dogs and poses plenty of risk to both the dogs and yourself.  Have their feces tested for Salmonella and Campylobacter.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5389.0,"score_ratio":1.8125}
{"post_id":"85poya","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Should I give the cat a bath? My ~12 year old cat has been diagnosed with lymphoma and started chemo, but isn't doing well (details not relevant to this question, but see this post if interested).  She hasn't been making it to the litterbox consistently and a few days ago peed in her bed\/all over herself.  I wiped her off with a wet paper towel, but she still smells.  She's not grooming herself at all anymore, so she won't get clean that way.  My question is just whether it's worth giving her a bath, or even trying to rub her down with a waterless cat shampoo?  I don't want to stress her unnecessarily, but I know cats like being clean, so maybe it would make her feel better?  Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just want to make her as comfortable as possible...","c_root_id_A":"dvz7k38","c_root_id_B":"dvz9d5d","created_at_utc_A":1521516864,"created_at_utc_B":1521519227,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I think waterless shampoo would be a good option. They also make wipes designed for cats that you can spot clean her with. If you do end up bathing her, make sure you towel her off well and keep her in a warm area until she's completely dry.","human_ref_B":"I would suggest looking into wipes or waterless shampoo. Bathing is extremely stressful for cats. You can also ask your vet to give her a sanitary trim to keep things tidy back there.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2363.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4oxik","c_root_id_B":"cq4l99d","created_at_utc_A":1428448483,"created_at_utc_B":1428442479,"score_A":20,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"So not everyone has an in depth knowledge of reptile reproductive anatomy.  Many people don't know that the penis is simply a reproductive organ in reptiles, it serves no other function that to transfer sperm.  Because of this we can and do amputate them fairly frequently in the spring and summer when they prolapse and get stuck.  Unlike a male dog with a stuck penis, we don't have to worry about impeding urine output.    So about 6 or so summers ago, we amputated the penis of a rather large Sulcata. Duke was just shy of 180 pounds of hormonal pissed off tortoise whose attempt at mating resulted in his penis being smashed against a rock and becoming badly damaged.  It took 6 technicians, 2 vets and 3 dollies to get this randy, painful and angry rock of a tortoise into our building.  After giving it enough drugs to kill an elephant, we had him sedated enough to amputate.  Off came the penis.  2 weeks of antibiotics and Duke was good to go.  Owner was thrilled cause he wasn't ready for babies and Duke had already knocked down 3 block walls to get to the females.   Yesterday we get a phone call.  Duke's owner caught him mating with one of his females.  With a fully functional penis. Everyone learned to add sulcatas to the list of reptiles that will regenerate their penis after amputation.  Yes, ladies and gents, go Lorena Bobbet on a reptile, and it grows back.","human_ref_B":"I'm a receptionist at a hospital, and I'm generally the only person to ever answer the phones. I get a lot of interesting phone calls and questions (like the woman who quizzed me on the merits of removing the uterus vs ovaries and then hung up). One day, a guy calls in:  Him: Do y'all reverse neuters there? I want to bring my cat in.   Me: Uh, no. Sorry, we can't do that.   Him: Aw, really?! Why not?!  Me: Sir, we physically remove the testicles from the cat.   Him: Damn... I just feel so bad. Thanks, bye!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6004.0,"score_ratio":1.8181818182}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4jacp","c_root_id_B":"cq4oxik","created_at_utc_A":1428439457,"created_at_utc_B":1428448483,"score_A":7,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"I don't work at a vet office, but a a shelter. My favorite experience thus far has been working with a cat named Pegasus.  Someone brought her in after finding her and her sister in a box. Pegasus tried to get out of the box so furiously, she lost her top teeth.  When they came in they were thin, lethargic, and just plain in bad shape. Both of them went into our infirmary, where we work with the very ill animals. The sister was able to leave quickly as she was in better health.  Over about a month (maybe slightly longer), Pegasus went from sleeping 24\/7, not eating or drinking to opening her eyes and moving a little, to being able to leave the infirmary! Seeing her get well has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my job.","human_ref_B":"So not everyone has an in depth knowledge of reptile reproductive anatomy.  Many people don't know that the penis is simply a reproductive organ in reptiles, it serves no other function that to transfer sperm.  Because of this we can and do amputate them fairly frequently in the spring and summer when they prolapse and get stuck.  Unlike a male dog with a stuck penis, we don't have to worry about impeding urine output.    So about 6 or so summers ago, we amputated the penis of a rather large Sulcata. Duke was just shy of 180 pounds of hormonal pissed off tortoise whose attempt at mating resulted in his penis being smashed against a rock and becoming badly damaged.  It took 6 technicians, 2 vets and 3 dollies to get this randy, painful and angry rock of a tortoise into our building.  After giving it enough drugs to kill an elephant, we had him sedated enough to amputate.  Off came the penis.  2 weeks of antibiotics and Duke was good to go.  Owner was thrilled cause he wasn't ready for babies and Duke had already knocked down 3 block walls to get to the females.   Yesterday we get a phone call.  Duke's owner caught him mating with one of his females.  With a fully functional penis. Everyone learned to add sulcatas to the list of reptiles that will regenerate their penis after amputation.  Yes, ladies and gents, go Lorena Bobbet on a reptile, and it grows back.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9026.0,"score_ratio":2.8571428571}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4jacp","c_root_id_B":"cq4kes2","created_at_utc_A":1428439457,"created_at_utc_B":1428441131,"score_A":7,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"I don't work at a vet office, but a a shelter. My favorite experience thus far has been working with a cat named Pegasus.  Someone brought her in after finding her and her sister in a box. Pegasus tried to get out of the box so furiously, she lost her top teeth.  When they came in they were thin, lethargic, and just plain in bad shape. Both of them went into our infirmary, where we work with the very ill animals. The sister was able to leave quickly as she was in better health.  Over about a month (maybe slightly longer), Pegasus went from sleeping 24\/7, not eating or drinking to opening her eyes and moving a little, to being able to leave the infirmary! Seeing her get well has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my job.","human_ref_B":"I work in an emergency clinic. There are many strange stories I could tell, but I think my favorite was the night someone brought in their pig who was disoriented, behaving erratically, and *screaming*. The owners had \"no idea\" what he could have gotten into. After running a tox screen, we learned that the pig was, in fact, on ecstasy. We kept him overnight until most of the drug was out of his system, and sent him home. That was a weird, loud night.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1674.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4l99d","c_root_id_B":"cq4v21m","created_at_utc_A":1428442479,"created_at_utc_B":1428458374,"score_A":11,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I'm a receptionist at a hospital, and I'm generally the only person to ever answer the phones. I get a lot of interesting phone calls and questions (like the woman who quizzed me on the merits of removing the uterus vs ovaries and then hung up). One day, a guy calls in:  Him: Do y'all reverse neuters there? I want to bring my cat in.   Me: Uh, no. Sorry, we can't do that.   Him: Aw, really?! Why not?!  Me: Sir, we physically remove the testicles from the cat.   Him: Damn... I just feel so bad. Thanks, bye!","human_ref_B":"I had a good samaritan bring in an animal in a box that had been hit by a car. This woman did not speak English as her first language and was having trouble telling me what kind of dog was in the box.   \"Small dog. Pointy ears. Maybe a cat?\"  I walked them into an exam room and carefully pulled back the box lid. I look in and see these black beady eyes and pointy nose staring at me as it opened its mouth and hissed.   IT WAS AN OPOSSUM.  This woman picked up an OPOSSUM off the side of the road.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15895.0,"score_ratio":1.1818181818}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4jacp","c_root_id_B":"cq4l99d","created_at_utc_A":1428439457,"created_at_utc_B":1428442479,"score_A":7,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I don't work at a vet office, but a a shelter. My favorite experience thus far has been working with a cat named Pegasus.  Someone brought her in after finding her and her sister in a box. Pegasus tried to get out of the box so furiously, she lost her top teeth.  When they came in they were thin, lethargic, and just plain in bad shape. Both of them went into our infirmary, where we work with the very ill animals. The sister was able to leave quickly as she was in better health.  Over about a month (maybe slightly longer), Pegasus went from sleeping 24\/7, not eating or drinking to opening her eyes and moving a little, to being able to leave the infirmary! Seeing her get well has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my job.","human_ref_B":"I'm a receptionist at a hospital, and I'm generally the only person to ever answer the phones. I get a lot of interesting phone calls and questions (like the woman who quizzed me on the merits of removing the uterus vs ovaries and then hung up). One day, a guy calls in:  Him: Do y'all reverse neuters there? I want to bring my cat in.   Me: Uh, no. Sorry, we can't do that.   Him: Aw, really?! Why not?!  Me: Sir, we physically remove the testicles from the cat.   Him: Damn... I just feel so bad. Thanks, bye!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3022.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4jacp","c_root_id_B":"cq4v21m","created_at_utc_A":1428439457,"created_at_utc_B":1428458374,"score_A":7,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I don't work at a vet office, but a a shelter. My favorite experience thus far has been working with a cat named Pegasus.  Someone brought her in after finding her and her sister in a box. Pegasus tried to get out of the box so furiously, she lost her top teeth.  When they came in they were thin, lethargic, and just plain in bad shape. Both of them went into our infirmary, where we work with the very ill animals. The sister was able to leave quickly as she was in better health.  Over about a month (maybe slightly longer), Pegasus went from sleeping 24\/7, not eating or drinking to opening her eyes and moving a little, to being able to leave the infirmary! Seeing her get well has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my job.","human_ref_B":"I had a good samaritan bring in an animal in a box that had been hit by a car. This woman did not speak English as her first language and was having trouble telling me what kind of dog was in the box.   \"Small dog. Pointy ears. Maybe a cat?\"  I walked them into an exam room and carefully pulled back the box lid. I look in and see these black beady eyes and pointy nose staring at me as it opened its mouth and hissed.   IT WAS AN OPOSSUM.  This woman picked up an OPOSSUM off the side of the road.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18917.0,"score_ratio":1.8571428571}
{"post_id":"31s95q","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Vets & Staff: what's your favorite story to tell from your work? Maybe it's an animal with a very quirky personality, or the biggest pain in the ass pet owner, or a miraculous survival situation.  I just love hearing about people's experiences!","c_root_id_A":"cq4yaby","c_root_id_B":"cq4jacp","created_at_utc_A":1428463509,"created_at_utc_B":1428439457,"score_A":11,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"My very first day on the job (ever) I was really thrown into things. The clinic I was working for hired assistants to do everything. We did kennel, assisted in rooms, and assisted in surgery.   Since I didn't know how to run the kennel yet the lead assistant had to do the midday run for a full kennel and I had to assist in surgery. It was a leg amputation. The vet's wife monitored the patient while I stood there dressed in ripped jeans, flannel shirt, and combat boots (it was the 90s after all) in the OR holding a dog's leg like I was the Statue of Liberty. (I have no idea why he didn't use a towel clamp, a gauze rope, and an IV pole, but, whatever.)  After about 20 minutes the vet got everything cut and cauterized and the joint just went POP and I was standing there with my jaw on the floor, my eyes bugging out of my head, and an amputated rear leg in my hands.   Trial by fire, I guess. The vet asked me if I was OK, and all I could think to say was, \"Oh my god that was awesome!\"   Then he told me to throw the leg out in the trash. I thought he was kidding. He wasn't. Little did I know...","human_ref_B":"I don't work at a vet office, but a a shelter. My favorite experience thus far has been working with a cat named Pegasus.  Someone brought her in after finding her and her sister in a box. Pegasus tried to get out of the box so furiously, she lost her top teeth.  When they came in they were thin, lethargic, and just plain in bad shape. Both of them went into our infirmary, where we work with the very ill animals. The sister was able to leave quickly as she was in better health.  Over about a month (maybe slightly longer), Pegasus went from sleeping 24\/7, not eating or drinking to opening her eyes and moving a little, to being able to leave the infirmary! Seeing her get well has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my job.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24052.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"escsd1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Cat Behaving Badly - At my wits end    * **Species: Cat** * **Age: 13-16** * **Sex\/Neuter status: F, Spayed** * **Breed: Siamese** * **Body weight: 7lbs** * **History: Formerly a dumpster cat, she's been in my care for 9 years now. Last March she started having accidents outside of her litter box. I called the vet they gave her an exam and found nothing wrong with her - suggested I buy a new litter box which I did. Accidents \"stopped\". Fast forward six months, where my sister is staying with me for a week, cat is walking along and craps in the middle of the floor, before she can clean it up the dog comes along and eats it. She texts me horrified, and I call the vet again. They give her another exam, find nothing wrong but prescribe antibiotics. I give her antibiotics for 10 days, now she is shitting in the floor and hiding from me. No change. I take her back to the vet, and insist they run some ACTUAL tests. Pay $900 to run every test under the sun, blood work, urinalysis, thyroid tests, and they did an ultrasound on her stomach. They call with \"good\/bad news\", there's nothing wrong with her. They think she's stressed out, so prescribe me a calming collar and pheromones to burn. They also suggest changing her food to a sensitive stomach food another $70 per bag. I wait two weeks for the collar\/food\/pheromones to kick in - no change. I talk to a NEW vet, they suggest CBD oil in her food. I try that for two weeks, no change. My dad suggests de-worming her, I do that for a week, no worms. The vet found what looks like flea bites but no fleas, so I treat her (and the dog, and the beds) for fleas. I buy cat diapers, poop comes out of the tail hole. This morning I wake up and do the normal clean up all the crap on my floors, sofa, and the dog bed (NINE piles of crap this morning - I'm not sure where she stores it all), and discover that she's definitely peed all over my new velvet sofa.** * **Clinical signs:** * **Duration: almost a year at this point** * **Your general location: Cincinnati, OH** * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. They didn't provide me any test results, or Xrays.**  **Other than having accidents all over the house, she seems chipper and playful. I'm at my wits end and cannot keep cleaning up messes because it's stressing ME out, and costing me a fortune.**","c_root_id_A":"ff9ahpf","c_root_id_B":"ff9w44n","created_at_utc_A":1579708546,"created_at_utc_B":1579722795,"score_A":8,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"Have you reached out to a behavior specialist?","human_ref_B":"Honestly if your cat is defecating 9 times a day, that qualifies as diarrhea. I would consult an internal medicine specialist and consider advanced diagnostics; this is certainly not normal.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14249.0,"score_ratio":1.375}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fyn3bcm","c_root_id_B":"fyn63fy","created_at_utc_A":1595233717,"created_at_utc_B":1595236648,"score_A":26,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Concern for rabies.  You need to take him to a vet right away.  Also contact your local Public Health Service.","human_ref_B":"If the cat bit you at all, go to the doctor to get a rabies vaccine. You can wait until after the vet, but rabies is incurable and fatal. It\u2019s transmitted in saliva. If the cat has rabies (and it\u2019s acting like it does) and it bit you even a tiny bit, the only thing that will help you is if you get vaccinated before you start having symptoms. If you start to show symptoms it\u2019s too late. I cannot stress this enough. As a matter of fact I believe it\u2019s recommended to get treated within 24 hours of the bite. If it\u2019s past 24 hours, still go, ASAP.  Also, as others have mentioned, if the cat dies you still need to take it to the vet. It\u2019s incredibly important that if the cat does have rabies the proper people are notified and the body is disposed of correctly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2931.0,"score_ratio":1.5384615385}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fymymwp","c_root_id_B":"fyn63fy","created_at_utc_A":1595229017,"created_at_utc_B":1595236648,"score_A":19,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Take to a vet ASAP!!!!!!","human_ref_B":"If the cat bit you at all, go to the doctor to get a rabies vaccine. You can wait until after the vet, but rabies is incurable and fatal. It\u2019s transmitted in saliva. If the cat has rabies (and it\u2019s acting like it does) and it bit you even a tiny bit, the only thing that will help you is if you get vaccinated before you start having symptoms. If you start to show symptoms it\u2019s too late. I cannot stress this enough. As a matter of fact I believe it\u2019s recommended to get treated within 24 hours of the bite. If it\u2019s past 24 hours, still go, ASAP.  Also, as others have mentioned, if the cat dies you still need to take it to the vet. It\u2019s incredibly important that if the cat does have rabies the proper people are notified and the body is disposed of correctly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7631.0,"score_ratio":2.1052631579}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fymxr66","c_root_id_B":"fyn63fy","created_at_utc_A":1595228191,"created_at_utc_B":1595236648,"score_A":12,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Vet!!!!!","human_ref_B":"If the cat bit you at all, go to the doctor to get a rabies vaccine. You can wait until after the vet, but rabies is incurable and fatal. It\u2019s transmitted in saliva. If the cat has rabies (and it\u2019s acting like it does) and it bit you even a tiny bit, the only thing that will help you is if you get vaccinated before you start having symptoms. If you start to show symptoms it\u2019s too late. I cannot stress this enough. As a matter of fact I believe it\u2019s recommended to get treated within 24 hours of the bite. If it\u2019s past 24 hours, still go, ASAP.  Also, as others have mentioned, if the cat dies you still need to take it to the vet. It\u2019s incredibly important that if the cat does have rabies the proper people are notified and the body is disposed of correctly.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8457.0,"score_ratio":3.3333333333}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fymymwp","c_root_id_B":"fyn3bcm","created_at_utc_A":1595229017,"created_at_utc_B":1595233717,"score_A":19,"score_B":26,"human_ref_A":"Take to a vet ASAP!!!!!!","human_ref_B":"Concern for rabies.  You need to take him to a vet right away.  Also contact your local Public Health Service.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4700.0,"score_ratio":1.3684210526}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fyn3bcm","c_root_id_B":"fymxr66","created_at_utc_A":1595233717,"created_at_utc_B":1595228191,"score_A":26,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Concern for rabies.  You need to take him to a vet right away.  Also contact your local Public Health Service.","human_ref_B":"Vet!!!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5526.0,"score_ratio":2.1666666667}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fymymwp","c_root_id_B":"fymxr66","created_at_utc_A":1595229017,"created_at_utc_B":1595228191,"score_A":19,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Take to a vet ASAP!!!!!!","human_ref_B":"Vet!!!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":826.0,"score_ratio":1.5833333333}
{"post_id":"hucat1","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"5-6 week old male kitten dizzy, bumping into things, suddenly confused and aggressive. Last week I found this kitten in the middle of an intersection, dodging cars. I took it home and have been feeding it powdered goats milk for the past few days, anyway, it has been a very happy and lovable kitten. However, very suddenly this afternoon the cat started making strange noises, bumping into objects and walking aimlessly. I picked it up and it\u2019s very confused and started scratching like crazy. I have it in a box now so it can\u2019t stumble around anymore and it is passed out but still breathing. Can anybody tell me what might be going on?","c_root_id_A":"fyn6vx6","c_root_id_B":"fynoayh","created_at_utc_A":1595237470,"created_at_utc_B":1595252217,"score_A":10,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"how many times have you noticed it urinating in the last 24 hours  how many times has it pooped , again  in the last 24 hours  **if** your kitten has rabies like others have suggested  you need to wash out the wound with soap for at least 5 minutes and seek medical attention the same day for vaccinations, antibiotics,  it's also best you get to a vet or animal sanctuary so that the kitten won't suffer","human_ref_B":"Not sure why you haven\u2019t gone to a vet instead of posting here?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14747.0,"score_ratio":1.1}
{"post_id":"ysl0r6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"A cat I suspect to have rabies touched my lips I made contact with a kitten that I suspect to have rabies. She's been sickly for the past couple of days, vomiting white foam and excessive drooling. Today, she touched my lips with its muzzle which had some saliva on it and I quickly proceeded to rinse it off with soap and water repeatedly, but I'm concerned whether it could cause me to contract rabies. Please help me, people. I'm very scared.   * Species: N\/A * Age: 1.5 months * Sex\/Neuter status: female, not neutered  * Breed: N\/A * Body weight: 0.5 kg * History: N\/A * Clinical signs: vomitting white foam, drooling, difficulty moving, lethargy. * Duration: 3 days * Your general location: Morocco * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: N\/A","c_root_id_A":"ivzj59o","c_root_id_B":"ivzxll8","created_at_utc_A":1668196261,"created_at_utc_B":1668202192,"score_A":2,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Go to the doctor immediately to be tested","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5931.0,"score_ratio":25.0}
{"post_id":"ysl0r6","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.82,"history":"A cat I suspect to have rabies touched my lips I made contact with a kitten that I suspect to have rabies. She's been sickly for the past couple of days, vomiting white foam and excessive drooling. Today, she touched my lips with its muzzle which had some saliva on it and I quickly proceeded to rinse it off with soap and water repeatedly, but I'm concerned whether it could cause me to contract rabies. Please help me, people. I'm very scared.   * Species: N\/A * Age: 1.5 months * Sex\/Neuter status: female, not neutered  * Breed: N\/A * Body weight: 0.5 kg * History: N\/A * Clinical signs: vomitting white foam, drooling, difficulty moving, lethargy. * Duration: 3 days * Your general location: Morocco * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have: N\/A","c_root_id_A":"iw0pyru","c_root_id_B":"ivzj59o","created_at_utc_A":1668215279,"created_at_utc_B":1668196261,"score_A":18,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Just go get the Rabies shots at your local health department within 48 hours. It's not bad and it's better than dying.","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19018.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"rpn62e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Methimazole (hyperthyroid) meds have me strapped to my cat! * **Species:** Cat * **Age:** 10y * **Sex\/Neuter status:** Neutered  * **Breed:** Domestic Short Hair * **Body weight:** 11pounds ?  * **History:** Hyperthyroidism\/ Asthma (so vet says)  * **Clinical signs:** He would have occasional asthma like attacks (like hairball hacking)  * **Duration:** Over a year  * **Your general location:** New England   My cat Pesto has been on 1\/2 a methimazole for about a year but everyday is a struggle to get him to take it. He won\u2019t eat the pill pockets. Have to smash it on a crunchy treat he does like and most of the time he sees past it. Even eating crunch and spitting out pill! I\u2019ve reverted to just shoving it in his mouth and holding it shut till he swallows. If that isn\u2019t trouble enough, because he needs this daily and my vet said not to skip days, we can NEVER leave the house more then a day! He hates the car so we can\u2019t take him places. I know there is the topical version of the meds but that still needs to be applied daily. There has to be some solution or workaround for others that are in the same boat of having to give daily medicine to a cat who hates to travel?","c_root_id_A":"hq5lw2z","c_root_id_B":"hq5icxu","created_at_utc_A":1640619144,"created_at_utc_B":1640617532,"score_A":26,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"I also wanted to suggest I-131. It was expensive (~$900), but for the past 6+ years my formerly hyperthyroid cat has had normal thyroid function without any need for daily medication or a special diet. It was expensive up front, but in the long run has saved me money by not needing medication, more frequent blood work, etc. Not to mention the ease and peace of mind knowing she doesn't have to take medication every day or deal with side effects from the medication or disease itself.","human_ref_B":"Ask your vet about topical use methimazole pen. You can apply it on the ear pinna instead of oral medication.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1612.0,"score_ratio":2.3636363636}
{"post_id":"rpn62e","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Methimazole (hyperthyroid) meds have me strapped to my cat! * **Species:** Cat * **Age:** 10y * **Sex\/Neuter status:** Neutered  * **Breed:** Domestic Short Hair * **Body weight:** 11pounds ?  * **History:** Hyperthyroidism\/ Asthma (so vet says)  * **Clinical signs:** He would have occasional asthma like attacks (like hairball hacking)  * **Duration:** Over a year  * **Your general location:** New England   My cat Pesto has been on 1\/2 a methimazole for about a year but everyday is a struggle to get him to take it. He won\u2019t eat the pill pockets. Have to smash it on a crunchy treat he does like and most of the time he sees past it. Even eating crunch and spitting out pill! I\u2019ve reverted to just shoving it in his mouth and holding it shut till he swallows. If that isn\u2019t trouble enough, because he needs this daily and my vet said not to skip days, we can NEVER leave the house more then a day! He hates the car so we can\u2019t take him places. I know there is the topical version of the meds but that still needs to be applied daily. There has to be some solution or workaround for others that are in the same boat of having to give daily medicine to a cat who hates to travel?","c_root_id_A":"hq6l93r","c_root_id_B":"hq6dxnp","created_at_utc_A":1640633771,"created_at_utc_B":1640630770,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Ask you veterinarian about having the methimazole compounded into a cat friendly flavored liquid (salmon, chicken, tuna, etc).  There are special veterinary compounding pharmacies that can do this","human_ref_B":"Twice daily medication is a must for this condition. You could discuss I-131 treatment with your vet to see if Pesto is a good candidate. Most boarding facilities, especially a vet clinic with boarding, can give the medication. And the more you take Pesto there and get him used to it, hopefully the less stressed he would be over time. There is a topical version, that you could potentially use with a pet sitter if they have difficulty giving a pill. You can also get it compounded into a liquid (and can flavor it) if needed through a compounding pharmacy. Talk to your vet about the struggles you\u2019re facing and discuss some options. If Pesto is stressed while boarding\/travel, your vet may be able to offer an anti-anxiety med for duration of travel or boarding that may help.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3001.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk3k0va","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636568628,"score_A":2,"score_B":248,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Cat's don't need baths unless they have fleas or get something sticky or toxic on then.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":730.0,"score_ratio":124.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3p0gw","c_root_id_B":"hk3le9b","created_at_utc_A":1636570553,"created_at_utc_B":1636569157,"score_A":96,"score_B":74,"human_ref_A":"Never. Unless they got into something really gross, vet tells you to for skin issues, or has fleas.","human_ref_B":"Bathing them too often or with harsh soap can cause them skin issues. Only bathe them when it's needed. And always make sure the soap is safe for cats. Don't just go by the label check for toxic ingredients as well.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1396.0,"score_ratio":1.2972972973}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk3p0gw","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636570553,"score_A":2,"score_B":96,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Never. Unless they got into something really gross, vet tells you to for skin issues, or has fleas.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2655.0,"score_ratio":48.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3le9b","c_root_id_B":"hk3i4ek","created_at_utc_A":1636569157,"created_at_utc_B":1636567898,"score_A":74,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Bathing them too often or with harsh soap can cause them skin issues. Only bathe them when it's needed. And always make sure the soap is safe for cats. Don't just go by the label check for toxic ingredients as well.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1259.0,"score_ratio":37.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk4hlyn","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636581694,"score_A":2,"score_B":48,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Cats don\u2019t need to be bathed. Medicated baths would be the exception but they would be prescribed by a veterinarian.   Bathing a cat is just a terrible experience for the person and the cat","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13796.0,"score_ratio":24.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk5tj9j","c_root_id_B":"hk5d35s","created_at_utc_A":1636602881,"created_at_utc_B":1636595334,"score_A":28,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"I think you\u2019re very sweet since you said about 55 days as if that wasn\u2019t a very exact number. From my understanding healthy cats do not need regular baths but yea, check other responses and best of luck. I\u2019m sure she is super safe in your care.","human_ref_B":"To bathe a cat would be stressful and unnecessary imo. they do quite well at keeping themselves clean.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7547.0,"score_ratio":1.5555555556}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk5pjfi","c_root_id_B":"hk5tj9j","created_at_utc_A":1636600948,"created_at_utc_B":1636602881,"score_A":7,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Cats are self cleaning! You don't need to bathe them unless they have fleas or are really obviously dirty (like they played in a mud puddle). Just let your new kitten do her own thing","human_ref_B":"I think you\u2019re very sweet since you said about 55 days as if that wasn\u2019t a very exact number. From my understanding healthy cats do not need regular baths but yea, check other responses and best of luck. I\u2019m sure she is super safe in your care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1933.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk5tj9j","c_root_id_B":"hk55o58","created_at_utc_A":1636602881,"created_at_utc_B":1636592020,"score_A":28,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I think you\u2019re very sweet since you said about 55 days as if that wasn\u2019t a very exact number. From my understanding healthy cats do not need regular baths but yea, check other responses and best of luck. I\u2019m sure she is super safe in your care.","human_ref_B":"None at all.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10861.0,"score_ratio":5.6}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk5tj9j","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636602881,"score_A":2,"score_B":28,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"I think you\u2019re very sweet since you said about 55 days as if that wasn\u2019t a very exact number. From my understanding healthy cats do not need regular baths but yea, check other responses and best of luck. I\u2019m sure she is super safe in your care.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":34983.0,"score_ratio":14.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk55o58","c_root_id_B":"hk5d35s","created_at_utc_A":1636592020,"created_at_utc_B":1636595334,"score_A":5,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"None at all.","human_ref_B":"To bathe a cat would be stressful and unnecessary imo. they do quite well at keeping themselves clean.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3314.0,"score_ratio":3.6}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk5d35s","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636595334,"score_A":2,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"To bathe a cat would be stressful and unnecessary imo. they do quite well at keeping themselves clean.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27436.0,"score_ratio":9.0}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk55o58","c_root_id_B":"hk5pjfi","created_at_utc_A":1636592020,"created_at_utc_B":1636600948,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"None at all.","human_ref_B":"Cats are self cleaning! You don't need to bathe them unless they have fleas or are really obviously dirty (like they played in a mud puddle). Just let your new kitten do her own thing","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8928.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk5pjfi","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636600948,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Cats are self cleaning! You don't need to bathe them unless they have fleas or are really obviously dirty (like they played in a mud puddle). Just let your new kitten do her own thing","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33050.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk66nuv","c_root_id_B":"hk55o58","created_at_utc_A":1636610170,"created_at_utc_B":1636592020,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, only in extreme circumstances like getting into something toxic, falling into a mud pit, or something equally harmful. But there is one caveat, if your cat is a flat faced breed (sorta like a pug) then they will likely struggle to groom themselves and need bathing. Or, if your cat ever falls ill or suddenly stops grooming themselves, they will need bathing.   You will notice when your cat has stopped grooming themselves. Matting will develop, their fur will stick together, become greasy at times, and it will be apparent. This can cause serious issues and it's recommend to have a veterinarian check your cat for any health issues and see a professional groomer.   I highly recommend against ever bathing your cat yourself. It is extremely difficult for an inexperienced person to bathe a cat as they get slippery, smart, and aggressive. If for any reason you do need to bathe your cat, I would look for a groomer that has experience with cats. It will be the least traumatic for the cat and you.  As you're a new cat owner (congratulations by the way!) another common misconception I want to warn you against is declawing your cat. Do **not** have this done. You may thing their sharp claws would be better off gone but it can seriously injure your cat for life and cause mental issues as well. It is akin to cutting off a person's fingertips. Some people will trim their cats claws if they do not use any scratching boards or such to naturally wear them down, which is different and okay. Declawing is a violent and harmful practice that is now banned in a lot of places.  You're already doing a great job at being a cat owner by reaching out and searching for information. Be proud of yourself for that!","human_ref_B":"None at all.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":18150.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk3i4ek","c_root_id_B":"hk55o58","created_at_utc_A":1636567898,"created_at_utc_B":1636592020,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"None at all.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24122.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk62m1q","c_root_id_B":"hk66nuv","created_at_utc_A":1636607751,"created_at_utc_B":1636610170,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"You don't need to bathe your cat, in fact you shouldn't unless they get into mud or something. However in terms of general cleanliness, it can be helpful to brush your cat! They'll be less likely to cough up fireballs, plus it's convenient for you if they shed all into a brush instead of all over the place. My mom used to brush our car once a week. It isn't necessary though, so don't worry if you can't. Hope this helps! :)","human_ref_B":"As others have said, only in extreme circumstances like getting into something toxic, falling into a mud pit, or something equally harmful. But there is one caveat, if your cat is a flat faced breed (sorta like a pug) then they will likely struggle to groom themselves and need bathing. Or, if your cat ever falls ill or suddenly stops grooming themselves, they will need bathing.   You will notice when your cat has stopped grooming themselves. Matting will develop, their fur will stick together, become greasy at times, and it will be apparent. This can cause serious issues and it's recommend to have a veterinarian check your cat for any health issues and see a professional groomer.   I highly recommend against ever bathing your cat yourself. It is extremely difficult for an inexperienced person to bathe a cat as they get slippery, smart, and aggressive. If for any reason you do need to bathe your cat, I would look for a groomer that has experience with cats. It will be the least traumatic for the cat and you.  As you're a new cat owner (congratulations by the way!) another common misconception I want to warn you against is declawing your cat. Do **not** have this done. You may thing their sharp claws would be better off gone but it can seriously injure your cat for life and cause mental issues as well. It is akin to cutting off a person's fingertips. Some people will trim their cats claws if they do not use any scratching boards or such to naturally wear them down, which is different and okay. Declawing is a violent and harmful practice that is now banned in a lot of places.  You're already doing a great job at being a cat owner by reaching out and searching for information. Be proud of yourself for that!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2419.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk62m1q","c_root_id_B":"hk3i4ek","created_at_utc_A":1636607751,"created_at_utc_B":1636567898,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"You don't need to bathe your cat, in fact you shouldn't unless they get into mud or something. However in terms of general cleanliness, it can be helpful to brush your cat! They'll be less likely to cough up fireballs, plus it's convenient for you if they shed all into a brush instead of all over the place. My mom used to brush our car once a week. It isn't necessary though, so don't worry if you can't. Hope this helps! :)","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":39853.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"qr0ejn","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"How frequently should i be bathing my cat? Shes a kitten about 55 days old and we got her a few days ago she still doesn\u2019t trust us much but i want to know how frequently to bathe her can someone help me with that? A friend told me to bathe her with water 1-2 times a year but i feel thats way to little. I live in Egypt and its starting to get cold.   Species: cat Age: 55 days Sex: female Not spayed","c_root_id_A":"hk66nuv","c_root_id_B":"hk3i4ek","created_at_utc_A":1636610170,"created_at_utc_B":1636567898,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"As others have said, only in extreme circumstances like getting into something toxic, falling into a mud pit, or something equally harmful. But there is one caveat, if your cat is a flat faced breed (sorta like a pug) then they will likely struggle to groom themselves and need bathing. Or, if your cat ever falls ill or suddenly stops grooming themselves, they will need bathing.   You will notice when your cat has stopped grooming themselves. Matting will develop, their fur will stick together, become greasy at times, and it will be apparent. This can cause serious issues and it's recommend to have a veterinarian check your cat for any health issues and see a professional groomer.   I highly recommend against ever bathing your cat yourself. It is extremely difficult for an inexperienced person to bathe a cat as they get slippery, smart, and aggressive. If for any reason you do need to bathe your cat, I would look for a groomer that has experience with cats. It will be the least traumatic for the cat and you.  As you're a new cat owner (congratulations by the way!) another common misconception I want to warn you against is declawing your cat. Do **not** have this done. You may thing their sharp claws would be better off gone but it can seriously injure your cat for life and cause mental issues as well. It is akin to cutting off a person's fingertips. Some people will trim their cats claws if they do not use any scratching boards or such to naturally wear them down, which is different and okay. Declawing is a violent and harmful practice that is now banned in a lot of places.  You're already doing a great job at being a cat owner by reaching out and searching for information. Be proud of yourself for that!","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":42272.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"27q4c3","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"What to look for in new Vet? \/ What makes a good client from the Vet & Staff's prospective? Need to get new Vet. 3 cats, all healthy. I want to look for a new vet before I need them and wonder what I should look for. Also want to be a good owner, for the practice. Example: I bring cookies, pay promptly, follow instructions. What else?","c_root_id_A":"ci3d9om","c_root_id_B":"ci3ehyx","created_at_utc_A":1402353420,"created_at_utc_B":1402356261,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) members have to maintain certain standards of care in their practice in order to be members. A good place to start is to look for an AAHA member. Plenty of amazing hospitals that just aren't members by choice, but an easy place to start.","human_ref_B":"A good client is somebody who has retained a healthy degree of skepticism towards everything they read on the internet. The degree of misinformation out there is just dazzling, and having to convince people that their favorite forum is giving them bad advice is a huge waste of time that could be used for more useful things.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2841.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"4ozeyg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Discouraged vet, tell me your stories. Hope this is allowed, it's off topic, but this is the most informal and anonymous place to get some encouragement or a kick in the ass from vets who may have gone through similar things.  I'm a 2014 grad in small animal clinical practice for 1.5 years.   I spent my first 6 months in a horrible horrible establishment where I learnt nothing and just spent entire days tut-tutting at the senior vet's bad practice. Example - He gives 1ml injections of ivermectin to 8 week old kittens and calls that a deworming injection. Subsequently a client called saying her kitten had ataxia and asking if it was the vaccine that cause it, he said yes. Yes it was the vaccine, not the massive overdose of ivermectin, not at all. And he believes SC fluids are just as good as IV. holy shit.  I then moved along to my current practice at which I am still receiving crap mentorship. Whenever I ask her questions regarding a case, the answer is invariably antibiotics and corticosteroids + time. She also treats cats like small dogs, case in point, prednisolone dosage; she finds fault with my 2mg\/kg\/day dosing.  I have gotten more mentorship from our foreign qualified DVM (not licensed to practice here) tech, than her. On top of that the practice management and staffing are in shambles, the receptionist can't remember what she said 3 minutes ago and gets me into trouble with clients. Thank the LAWD I am leaving for another clinic at the end of this month.  Regarding my impending move, I feel simultaneous dread and hope. In my research, interview and subsequent job trial with them, I was encouraged by the fact that they strive for excellence clinically, and appear to be generous with teaching\/training\/mentorship.  I just worry I've missed a boat. I've wasted 1.5 good years of my career learning nothing but bad habits and literally being discouraged from improving practices. I spend a significant part of my free time reading journals, watching webinars and participating in continuing education courses. I enjoy doing this. But with the bosses I've had so far I can't put things I've learnt into practice. I've lined up some major CE and study plans for myself for the coming year, in hopes of attaining ANZCVS membership in 2018, but without a supportive boss, I just don't feel I'll be able to gain enough clinical experience to get anywhere.  So it is with fear (either that I'm not good enough, or that this practice is also shit) and hope (to become a better veterinarian) that I forge ahead to my 3rd job in less than 2 years.  Vets of reddit, tell me your stories of horror or woe, and hopefully eventual success. How did you get to where you are, and are you happy now?","c_root_id_A":"d4hm2xd","c_root_id_B":"d4gzmdl","created_at_utc_A":1466483132,"created_at_utc_B":1466449487,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I worked at a miserable practice with godawful management and forced overtime for my first two years. I'm also a 2014 grad. I learned a ton from the high volume of cases and surgeries, and from the one other vet I got along with. When she quit, I quit six weeks later. I switched to a mixed animal practice two weeks ago without having practiced large animal medicine since vet school. Good mentor, good hours, great practice. You haven't missed the boat. There's always time to learn new things and improve, as long as you're presented with a good situation to do so. It's one of the things that makes this career so cool. All the best at the new gig!","human_ref_B":"I don't have a story of horror (or woe), but I don't think you need to be stressing out about not being a good vet.  You clearly care and know what good medicine *should* be, so when you hit this new clinic I'm guessing you'll quickly fit right in.    There will be holes in your medical knowledge, that's just part of the game for vets that have only been out a year or two.  And you may have a few more holes than others because of your previous experiences.  But that's really ok - take advantage of the mentorship and don't be afraid to ask questions you think maybe you should already know the answer to.  And if there are any practices you're used to (anesthesia protocols, vaccines, medication doses, etc) that you think *might* be inappropriate, just ask!  \"What do you guys tend to do for [insert issue]\" is always a fair question.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33645.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"4ozeyg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Discouraged vet, tell me your stories. Hope this is allowed, it's off topic, but this is the most informal and anonymous place to get some encouragement or a kick in the ass from vets who may have gone through similar things.  I'm a 2014 grad in small animal clinical practice for 1.5 years.   I spent my first 6 months in a horrible horrible establishment where I learnt nothing and just spent entire days tut-tutting at the senior vet's bad practice. Example - He gives 1ml injections of ivermectin to 8 week old kittens and calls that a deworming injection. Subsequently a client called saying her kitten had ataxia and asking if it was the vaccine that cause it, he said yes. Yes it was the vaccine, not the massive overdose of ivermectin, not at all. And he believes SC fluids are just as good as IV. holy shit.  I then moved along to my current practice at which I am still receiving crap mentorship. Whenever I ask her questions regarding a case, the answer is invariably antibiotics and corticosteroids + time. She also treats cats like small dogs, case in point, prednisolone dosage; she finds fault with my 2mg\/kg\/day dosing.  I have gotten more mentorship from our foreign qualified DVM (not licensed to practice here) tech, than her. On top of that the practice management and staffing are in shambles, the receptionist can't remember what she said 3 minutes ago and gets me into trouble with clients. Thank the LAWD I am leaving for another clinic at the end of this month.  Regarding my impending move, I feel simultaneous dread and hope. In my research, interview and subsequent job trial with them, I was encouraged by the fact that they strive for excellence clinically, and appear to be generous with teaching\/training\/mentorship.  I just worry I've missed a boat. I've wasted 1.5 good years of my career learning nothing but bad habits and literally being discouraged from improving practices. I spend a significant part of my free time reading journals, watching webinars and participating in continuing education courses. I enjoy doing this. But with the bosses I've had so far I can't put things I've learnt into practice. I've lined up some major CE and study plans for myself for the coming year, in hopes of attaining ANZCVS membership in 2018, but without a supportive boss, I just don't feel I'll be able to gain enough clinical experience to get anywhere.  So it is with fear (either that I'm not good enough, or that this practice is also shit) and hope (to become a better veterinarian) that I forge ahead to my 3rd job in less than 2 years.  Vets of reddit, tell me your stories of horror or woe, and hopefully eventual success. How did you get to where you are, and are you happy now?","c_root_id_A":"d4gzvos","c_root_id_B":"d4hm2xd","created_at_utc_A":1466449819,"created_at_utc_B":1466483132,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Didn't think places like that still existed.. I studied in Australia and things were a tad old fashioned at some of my placements and certainly seemed that way when I came back to Canada but nothing like that.  If anything I've had good luck with mentors, most offering too much criticism or opinions if anything.  Maybe you need to negotiate a vin account for for the time being and get as much free CE through vetfolio as you can absorb ( you can download all their CE videos while on a free trial if you get the proper chrome extension).  You should also consider a move, you may need to work in a more affluent zone where people want to pay for better quality medicine in order to find the right fit.  On the brighter side at least you're not already getting fatigued from doing mindless annual visits and getting every patient you see on a weightloss plan, arranging a dental cleaning and trying to sell wellness bloodwork..  I'm on year #4 and there are days I can barely walk into work even though most of our clients are great and do exactly as we recommend.","human_ref_B":"I worked at a miserable practice with godawful management and forced overtime for my first two years. I'm also a 2014 grad. I learned a ton from the high volume of cases and surgeries, and from the one other vet I got along with. When she quit, I quit six weeks later. I switched to a mixed animal practice two weeks ago without having practiced large animal medicine since vet school. Good mentor, good hours, great practice. You haven't missed the boat. There's always time to learn new things and improve, as long as you're presented with a good situation to do so. It's one of the things that makes this career so cool. All the best at the new gig!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33313.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"4ozeyg","domain":"askvet_train","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"Discouraged vet, tell me your stories. Hope this is allowed, it's off topic, but this is the most informal and anonymous place to get some encouragement or a kick in the ass from vets who may have gone through similar things.  I'm a 2014 grad in small animal clinical practice for 1.5 years.   I spent my first 6 months in a horrible horrible establishment where I learnt nothing and just spent entire days tut-tutting at the senior vet's bad practice. Example - He gives 1ml injections of ivermectin to 8 week old kittens and calls that a deworming injection. Subsequently a client called saying her kitten had ataxia and asking if it was the vaccine that cause it, he said yes. Yes it was the vaccine, not the massive overdose of ivermectin, not at all. And he believes SC fluids are just as good as IV. holy shit.  I then moved along to my current practice at which I am still receiving crap mentorship. Whenever I ask her questions regarding a case, the answer is invariably antibiotics and corticosteroids + time. She also treats cats like small dogs, case in point, prednisolone dosage; she finds fault with my 2mg\/kg\/day dosing.  I have gotten more mentorship from our foreign qualified DVM (not licensed to practice here) tech, than her. On top of that the practice management and staffing are in shambles, the receptionist can't remember what she said 3 minutes ago and gets me into trouble with clients. Thank the LAWD I am leaving for another clinic at the end of this month.  Regarding my impending move, I feel simultaneous dread and hope. In my research, interview and subsequent job trial with them, I was encouraged by the fact that they strive for excellence clinically, and appear to be generous with teaching\/training\/mentorship.  I just worry I've missed a boat. I've wasted 1.5 good years of my career learning nothing but bad habits and literally being discouraged from improving practices. I spend a significant part of my free time reading journals, watching webinars and participating in continuing education courses. I enjoy doing this. But with the bosses I've had so far I can't put things I've learnt into practice. I've lined up some major CE and study plans for myself for the coming year, in hopes of attaining ANZCVS membership in 2018, but without a supportive boss, I just don't feel I'll be able to gain enough clinical experience to get anywhere.  So it is with fear (either that I'm not good enough, or that this practice is also shit) and hope (to become a better veterinarian) that I forge ahead to my 3rd job in less than 2 years.  Vets of reddit, tell me your stories of horror or woe, and hopefully eventual success. How did you get to where you are, and are you happy now?","c_root_id_A":"d4hm2xd","c_root_id_B":"d4h5h3x","created_at_utc_A":1466483132,"created_at_utc_B":1466457086,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I worked at a miserable practice with godawful management and forced overtime for my first two years. I'm also a 2014 grad. I learned a ton from the high volume of cases and surgeries, and from the one other vet I got along with. When she quit, I quit six weeks later. I switched to a mixed animal practice two weeks ago without having practiced large animal medicine since vet school. Good mentor, good hours, great practice. You haven't missed the boat. There's always time to learn new things and improve, as long as you're presented with a good situation to do so. It's one of the things that makes this career so cool. All the best at the new gig!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet but this might help, http:\/\/vetsbehavingbadly.blogspot.com\/?m=1","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26046.0,"score_ratio":2.5}