{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ippwfa9","c_root_id_B":"ippm4w7","created_at_utc_A":1664029016,"created_at_utc_B":1664023550,"score_A":641,"score_B":303,"human_ref_A":"This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.","human_ref_B":"If you have a animal control you need to report this to them, I'd also be looking for a new landlord that's sickening when all people have to do is fix the damn cats then there won't be a huge stray population, your landlord should be in jail","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5466.0,"score_ratio":2.1155115512}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipp9z1e","c_root_id_B":"ippwfa9","created_at_utc_A":1664014940,"created_at_utc_B":1664029016,"score_A":178,"score_B":641,"human_ref_A":"I'd contact an attorney and report this to some sort of agency. Hopefully it's illegal to do that, it's a disgusting thing to poison any animal.","human_ref_B":"This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14076.0,"score_ratio":3.6011235955}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ippsjmr","c_root_id_B":"ippwfa9","created_at_utc_A":1664027078,"created_at_utc_B":1664029016,"score_A":98,"score_B":641,"human_ref_A":"That has to be illegal. What if a kid gets into that stuff?","human_ref_B":"This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1938.0,"score_ratio":6.5408163265}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ippud1u","c_root_id_B":"ippwfa9","created_at_utc_A":1664028003,"created_at_utc_B":1664029016,"score_A":65,"score_B":641,"human_ref_A":"Call the police! What if a kid picked those up?","human_ref_B":"This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1013.0,"score_ratio":9.8615384615}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipp9z1e","c_root_id_B":"ippm4w7","created_at_utc_A":1664014940,"created_at_utc_B":1664023550,"score_A":178,"score_B":303,"human_ref_A":"I'd contact an attorney and report this to some sort of agency. Hopefully it's illegal to do that, it's a disgusting thing to poison any animal.","human_ref_B":"If you have a animal control you need to report this to them, I'd also be looking for a new landlord that's sickening when all people have to do is fix the damn cats then there won't be a huge stray population, your landlord should be in jail","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8610.0,"score_ratio":1.702247191}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ippud1u","c_root_id_B":"ipqax13","created_at_utc_A":1664028003,"created_at_utc_B":1664035559,"score_A":65,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"Call the police! What if a kid picked those up?","human_ref_B":"That\u2019s animal cruelty and needs to be reported to an animal society. Document and take pictures (if possible).","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7556.0,"score_ratio":1.2769230769}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipqonj1","c_root_id_B":"ipqemsp","created_at_utc_A":1664041375,"created_at_utc_B":1664037149,"score_A":64,"score_B":50,"human_ref_A":"This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.","human_ref_B":"Animal abuse is a felony in the US now.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4226.0,"score_ratio":1.28}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipqltg2","c_root_id_B":"ipqonj1","created_at_utc_A":1664040182,"created_at_utc_B":1664041375,"score_A":47,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"Go after him! Because it was so easy for your dog to find and get into, your dog is likely one in a line of many innocent animals that fell and will continue to fall into your landlord's traps. This is inhumane and in many states illegal.","human_ref_B":"This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1193.0,"score_ratio":1.3617021277}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipqjegb","c_root_id_B":"ipqonj1","created_at_utc_A":1664039179,"created_at_utc_B":1664041375,"score_A":38,"score_B":64,"human_ref_A":"please remove the cans if they remained and report the neighbour","human_ref_B":"This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2196.0,"score_ratio":1.6842105263}
{"post_id":"xmogwq","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.","c_root_id_A":"ipqltg2","c_root_id_B":"ipqjegb","created_at_utc_A":1664040182,"created_at_utc_B":1664039179,"score_A":47,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"Go after him! Because it was so easy for your dog to find and get into, your dog is likely one in a line of many innocent animals that fell and will continue to fall into your landlord's traps. This is inhumane and in many states illegal.","human_ref_B":"please remove the cans if they remained and report the neighbour","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1003.0,"score_ratio":1.2368421053}
{"post_id":"jlx4yk","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I give my dogs a steak before they pass away? My dogs are dying. They don't know it, but they are unlikely to live another year. One is a 13-14 year old Lhasa Apso\/Shih Tzu,  has a heart murmur, and has begun having coughing fits occasionally. My other is a 11 year old Shih Tzu, who is eyeless and diabetic. I love them, and want to make sure they feel special and are happy before they pass away.c  Could I buy and cook up a steak for them? Or some other meat? I'd like to make it a little monthly thing for them. I doubt it could cause long term damage considering I'm not exactly looking at the long term. I'm going to be digging holes in the backyard in case they pass away in the winter, before the ground freezes. It's going to be hard, and I don't want to think about what it will be without them in my life. But I need to think far enough ahead for them both.","c_root_id_A":"gasdhxw","c_root_id_B":"gasbo5n","created_at_utc_A":1604234784,"created_at_utc_B":1604233210,"score_A":71,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Yes, but do not season it. At all. Pretty much all of the common stuff people add to steaks will cause unneeded pain\/discomfort.","human_ref_B":"No bones \ud83e\uddb4!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1574.0,"score_ratio":3.0869565217}
{"post_id":"jlx4yk","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I give my dogs a steak before they pass away? My dogs are dying. They don't know it, but they are unlikely to live another year. One is a 13-14 year old Lhasa Apso\/Shih Tzu,  has a heart murmur, and has begun having coughing fits occasionally. My other is a 11 year old Shih Tzu, who is eyeless and diabetic. I love them, and want to make sure they feel special and are happy before they pass away.c  Could I buy and cook up a steak for them? Or some other meat? I'd like to make it a little monthly thing for them. I doubt it could cause long term damage considering I'm not exactly looking at the long term. I'm going to be digging holes in the backyard in case they pass away in the winter, before the ground freezes. It's going to be hard, and I don't want to think about what it will be without them in my life. But I need to think far enough ahead for them both.","c_root_id_A":"gasi0ay","c_root_id_B":"gasbo5n","created_at_utc_A":1604237990,"created_at_utc_B":1604233210,"score_A":63,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Please nothing high in fat. You don\u2019t want them to suffer from pancreatitis, especially the diabetic. Nothing high in salt for the cardiac dog, either.  If the cardiac dog isn\u2019t on heart meds, please have him\/her evaluated - there are medications that can delay heart disease progression if indicated.  If you\u2019re talking about a last meal right before euthanasia then yes feed them whatever they want, but it sounds like you want to feed them it now, so I would be very careful with what you choose and specifically ask your vet that\u2019s familiar with them.  Seriously, they can die from GI upset and dietary indiscretion, especially little old guys and especially diabetics as their pancreas already isn\u2019t functioning normally. Please be careful.","human_ref_B":"No bones \ud83e\uddb4!!!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4780.0,"score_ratio":2.7391304348}
{"post_id":"jlx4yk","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Can I give my dogs a steak before they pass away? My dogs are dying. They don't know it, but they are unlikely to live another year. One is a 13-14 year old Lhasa Apso\/Shih Tzu,  has a heart murmur, and has begun having coughing fits occasionally. My other is a 11 year old Shih Tzu, who is eyeless and diabetic. I love them, and want to make sure they feel special and are happy before they pass away.c  Could I buy and cook up a steak for them? Or some other meat? I'd like to make it a little monthly thing for them. I doubt it could cause long term damage considering I'm not exactly looking at the long term. I'm going to be digging holes in the backyard in case they pass away in the winter, before the ground freezes. It's going to be hard, and I don't want to think about what it will be without them in my life. But I need to think far enough ahead for them both.","c_root_id_A":"gasbo5n","c_root_id_B":"gasojh6","created_at_utc_A":1604233210,"created_at_utc_B":1604242247,"score_A":23,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"No bones \ud83e\uddb4!!!","human_ref_B":"Assuming you're in the USA, to spare them the anxiety of the vet in the last moments, know you can get them euthanised at home. I find it's better on both pet and owner to do it in their own home.  Some vets will offer this service, but a company that does this specifically is called Lap of Love. You can stay with your pet the whole time, the vets are very nice and they offer cremation services also.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9037.0,"score_ratio":1.7391304348}
{"post_id":"drrdw9","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My Vet gave a misdiagnosis and now my Dog might die. I\u2019d really appreciate some opinions... I posted here a few days ago, explaining how when I was home alone (I\u2019m 17), I fell on my dog quite badly. I took your advice and took him straight to the vet, who after some x-rays, told me that there were no broken bones or fractures, and that he should be fine in a few days. But over the course of the next few days he seemed to continue to suffer, peeing and vomiting at least a dozen times a day. I thought maybe the medication they had given him was too strong (morphine) and that he\u2019d go back to normal sooner than later (considering of course that that\u2019s what the vet had told me). But today, my dad got back home from his trip and seeing him in that state, took him straight to the ER, where they found out that his bladder had been ruptured, and urine was seeping into his body. They drained 2L of urine from his abdomen, and stitches up the fracture, but we\u2019ve been told that his organs are badly intoxicated due to the urine of course. They gave no indication of whether he was likely to survive this or not, and that\u2019s what I wanted to maybe get a grasp on through you guys. My dog in a full grown cairn terrier, probably around 5-6kg, and got his bladder punctured 3 days ago. I\u2019m absolutely distraught that the first vet couldn\u2019t manage to pinpoint the problem, and even more so that I let him suffer over the following days, thinking that he was just recovering. So again, any estimates on whether he\u2019ll be ok or not would be appreciated, even if bad. Also, any reasons as to why the original vet was unable to diagnose him properly would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, I can\u2019t concentrate enough at the moment to make it concise and coherent. This is really tearing my heart apart.","c_root_id_A":"f6kqyn4","c_root_id_B":"f6kq8vo","created_at_utc_A":1572918536,"created_at_utc_B":1572918042,"score_A":148,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry to hear about your dog.  Unfortunately, x-rays only give a flat view of a 3D structure in varying shades of color based on the type of tissue. Bladders are a soft tissue structure within the abdomen, which is full of other soft tissue structures. Not seeing a distinct bladder is not uncommon in a healthy animal, so the stability of the bladder wall cannot be evaluated.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, vet assistant.  but I've been following your previous post. So sorry this is happening to you!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":494.0,"score_ratio":3.2888888889}
{"post_id":"drrdw9","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My Vet gave a misdiagnosis and now my Dog might die. I\u2019d really appreciate some opinions... I posted here a few days ago, explaining how when I was home alone (I\u2019m 17), I fell on my dog quite badly. I took your advice and took him straight to the vet, who after some x-rays, told me that there were no broken bones or fractures, and that he should be fine in a few days. But over the course of the next few days he seemed to continue to suffer, peeing and vomiting at least a dozen times a day. I thought maybe the medication they had given him was too strong (morphine) and that he\u2019d go back to normal sooner than later (considering of course that that\u2019s what the vet had told me). But today, my dad got back home from his trip and seeing him in that state, took him straight to the ER, where they found out that his bladder had been ruptured, and urine was seeping into his body. They drained 2L of urine from his abdomen, and stitches up the fracture, but we\u2019ve been told that his organs are badly intoxicated due to the urine of course. They gave no indication of whether he was likely to survive this or not, and that\u2019s what I wanted to maybe get a grasp on through you guys. My dog in a full grown cairn terrier, probably around 5-6kg, and got his bladder punctured 3 days ago. I\u2019m absolutely distraught that the first vet couldn\u2019t manage to pinpoint the problem, and even more so that I let him suffer over the following days, thinking that he was just recovering. So again, any estimates on whether he\u2019ll be ok or not would be appreciated, even if bad. Also, any reasons as to why the original vet was unable to diagnose him properly would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, I can\u2019t concentrate enough at the moment to make it concise and coherent. This is really tearing my heart apart.","c_root_id_A":"f6kzijn","c_root_id_B":"f6l4iv5","created_at_utc_A":1572924728,"created_at_utc_B":1572928719,"score_A":22,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Sorry to hear about that. This is a really unusual injury with that history, and not something that would have shown up on the initial X-ray.","human_ref_B":"First of all, I would go a little easier on the original vet.  A bladder rupture from that type of trauma wouldn't be first on my list and it's not the type of injury that shows up clearly on an X-ray.  Also many bladder ruptures actually seal spontaneously and surgery is not uniformly recommended even if it had been promptly diagnosed.   And secondly it sounds like your dog is in excellent hands.  Without knowing more details I can't be certain but I would say there's a reasonable chance of recovery.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3991.0,"score_ratio":1.6818181818}
{"post_id":"nbtm69","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What started as a standard neutering procedure today, Broke My Heart. At 8 months and 2 weeks, I booked an appointment at the vet to get Inca, our Border Collie Puppy neutered. I asked the vet to x-ray his hips because at times I noticed that he looked a bit awkward on his back legs (not lame or bunny hopping, just...odd). The RESULTS OF THE X-RAYS BROKE MY HEART. It was FAR WORSE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED. If you google **SEVERE HIP DYSPLASIA**, I am doubtful that you will find images of an x-ray that looks worse than the one I attached below.   It was more of a 'stop my own paranoia request'. \"He's young, in an awkward growth spurt, highly active, eating well and not showing any pain so I'm probably just imagining things.\" I was not imagining things.   **\\* Species:** Canine   **\\* Age:** 8 and a half months   **\\* Sex\/Neuter status**: Male and neutered.   **\\* Breed:** Border Collie  **\\* Bodyweight:**?  **\\* Your general location:** Pretoria, South Africa  **\\* Link X-rays:**  https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/kuCP4bL  https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/RFPmFPU  This is so hard to see because Inca has this incredible, enthusiastic approach to life. He has brought nothing but joy to us, all while he had to deal with a lot of pain pretty much from the get-go, and he never gave us any indication that he might be suffering.   **Back to the facts:**  Our vet gave us two treatment options.   1.  **Total hip replacement.** Probably the best, but incredibly expensive in South Africa. I am not sure If I have enough worth selling to afford this, but if the second option will impact his quality of life, I can't imagine not finding a way to do this.  2. **Femoral Head Ostectomy.** Slightly more affordable, but probably the second choice if money was not a problem. Been reading up on this but still **not sure how this will impact him long term.?**   **I also read about  Double (DPO) and Triple Pelvic Osteotomies (TPO). Could this also be an option?**  I need to make an incredibly big decision as soon as possible, but I'm scared, confused and a bit emotional (bad decision space).   **Any Comments, advice, article shares and information welcome. Similar stories of success or even regret would also be amazing.**","c_root_id_A":"gy20mgq","c_root_id_B":"gy2qfxj","created_at_utc_A":1620960145,"created_at_utc_B":1620978449,"score_A":64,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"Just to clarify things a bit...this isn't really hip dysplasia. Hip dysplasia is when the joint itself develops incorrectly and leads to the hip portion of the joint not fully covering the femoral head. DPO's and TPO's remedy this situation by altering the pelvis so it's shifted over to cover the head.   That isn't what's going on here (you could maybe argue that it's happening on the left side). What's happening here is just a full on coxofemoral luxation (meaning the joint is separated). DPO\/TPO isn't an option to fix this. Due to the likely chronicity of this, closed\/surgical reduction probably isn't an option. Total hip or FHO is probably the only treatment. Most animals tolerate FHO's really well.","human_ref_B":"Ok, so the first thing to understand here is that although there is significant hip laxity here, these hips are by no means the worst I've ever seen, by a long shot. Hip laxity is one of the components of hip dysplasia that we tend to see in younger dogs, before they go on to develop osteoarthritis later in life. In many cases, as these dogs mature and their muscles develop, the laxity can be significantly reduced. This may mean that as your dog grows his hips tighten up a bit, and although the likelihood is that he will most likely develop arthritis, he may not have issues from it until later on in life.  The most important thing to determine at this stage is whether your dog has painful hips or not, which can be assessed on physical examination. If your dog does not have painful hips and only has an occasional funny gait that doesn't affect his quality of life, he does not need hip surgery. You need to treat the dog, not the x-rays, and x-rays often don't correlate with physical examination findings.  Both total hip replacement and FHO are technically salvage procedures, ie surgery to be reserved for cases that cannot be managed any other way. Whilst it's true that we are starting to do hip replacements in younger dogs with hip dysplasia to help maintain their mobility, they are still only recommended in cases where the hip dysplasia is having a significant effect on the dog's enjoyment of life, and\/or the dog needs constant pain relief to be able to live life normally.   Essentially what I'm trying to say (with the caveat that I haven't examined your dog obviously) is that surgery may not be inevitable and your dog may not be in pain just based on the appearance of these x-rays.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18304.0,"score_ratio":1.078125}
{"post_id":"nbtm69","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"What started as a standard neutering procedure today, Broke My Heart. At 8 months and 2 weeks, I booked an appointment at the vet to get Inca, our Border Collie Puppy neutered. I asked the vet to x-ray his hips because at times I noticed that he looked a bit awkward on his back legs (not lame or bunny hopping, just...odd). The RESULTS OF THE X-RAYS BROKE MY HEART. It was FAR WORSE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED. If you google **SEVERE HIP DYSPLASIA**, I am doubtful that you will find images of an x-ray that looks worse than the one I attached below.   It was more of a 'stop my own paranoia request'. \"He's young, in an awkward growth spurt, highly active, eating well and not showing any pain so I'm probably just imagining things.\" I was not imagining things.   **\\* Species:** Canine   **\\* Age:** 8 and a half months   **\\* Sex\/Neuter status**: Male and neutered.   **\\* Breed:** Border Collie  **\\* Bodyweight:**?  **\\* Your general location:** Pretoria, South Africa  **\\* Link X-rays:**  https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/kuCP4bL  https:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/RFPmFPU  This is so hard to see because Inca has this incredible, enthusiastic approach to life. He has brought nothing but joy to us, all while he had to deal with a lot of pain pretty much from the get-go, and he never gave us any indication that he might be suffering.   **Back to the facts:**  Our vet gave us two treatment options.   1.  **Total hip replacement.** Probably the best, but incredibly expensive in South Africa. I am not sure If I have enough worth selling to afford this, but if the second option will impact his quality of life, I can't imagine not finding a way to do this.  2. **Femoral Head Ostectomy.** Slightly more affordable, but probably the second choice if money was not a problem. Been reading up on this but still **not sure how this will impact him long term.?**   **I also read about  Double (DPO) and Triple Pelvic Osteotomies (TPO). Could this also be an option?**  I need to make an incredibly big decision as soon as possible, but I'm scared, confused and a bit emotional (bad decision space).   **Any Comments, advice, article shares and information welcome. Similar stories of success or even regret would also be amazing.**","c_root_id_A":"gy2e5vp","c_root_id_B":"gy2qfxj","created_at_utc_A":1620968472,"created_at_utc_B":1620978449,"score_A":26,"score_B":69,"human_ref_A":"If I were you I would request referral to a surgery specialist. They will do an orthopedic exam, review xrays, and go through the options, prognosis, cost. The decision may be easier once you have it laid out that way. Ask your vet for referral.","human_ref_B":"Ok, so the first thing to understand here is that although there is significant hip laxity here, these hips are by no means the worst I've ever seen, by a long shot. Hip laxity is one of the components of hip dysplasia that we tend to see in younger dogs, before they go on to develop osteoarthritis later in life. In many cases, as these dogs mature and their muscles develop, the laxity can be significantly reduced. This may mean that as your dog grows his hips tighten up a bit, and although the likelihood is that he will most likely develop arthritis, he may not have issues from it until later on in life.  The most important thing to determine at this stage is whether your dog has painful hips or not, which can be assessed on physical examination. If your dog does not have painful hips and only has an occasional funny gait that doesn't affect his quality of life, he does not need hip surgery. You need to treat the dog, not the x-rays, and x-rays often don't correlate with physical examination findings.  Both total hip replacement and FHO are technically salvage procedures, ie surgery to be reserved for cases that cannot be managed any other way. Whilst it's true that we are starting to do hip replacements in younger dogs with hip dysplasia to help maintain their mobility, they are still only recommended in cases where the hip dysplasia is having a significant effect on the dog's enjoyment of life, and\/or the dog needs constant pain relief to be able to live life normally.   Essentially what I'm trying to say (with the caveat that I haven't examined your dog obviously) is that surgery may not be inevitable and your dog may not be in pain just based on the appearance of these x-rays.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9977.0,"score_ratio":2.6538461538}
{"post_id":"f3a2lu","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Should I leave my dying cat alone? Long story short he's 15 and has squamous cell carcinoma. He is almost completely out of it, cries, doesn't eat\/drink, and has lost the use of his hind legs. The vet is coming to the house tomorrow to put him down. I want to spend this time reading to him, petting him, loving on him etc but he keeps seeking out space to curl up and be alone. I don't know if I should give the attention\/comfort anyway or if he is truly irritated by it. I'm at a loss. What is the proper thing to do?","c_root_id_A":"fhhklva","c_root_id_B":"fhhdsul","created_at_utc_A":1581606304,"created_at_utc_B":1581601722,"score_A":237,"score_B":83,"human_ref_A":"Can you get a pain med to give to him from the vet, so he can relax and be comfortable today? He may even let you snuggle him then because of less pain.","human_ref_B":"Can you take him to the vet today? Why make him wait until tomorrow? He sounds like he suffering :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4582.0,"score_ratio":2.8554216867}
{"post_id":"u8qpuv","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Today I took my dog to the vet for a \u201ctumor\u201d\u2026 I have a 15 pound Yorkie male, estimated about 8 years old.   About a week ago, when petting him, I found a mass on his shoulder\/back. It was hard and fairly mobile. I did some research, and came to the conclusion that it was most likely a lipoma or something else benign, but decided to have it checked out just in case.  I took him to the vet this morning and got my answer\u2026 It was his microchip.  A previous shelter had him chipped, and I don\u2019t know how I never noticed it before, but I\u2019m feeling a little silly. I just want to share this story to laugh at myself and my paranoia, and because I\u2019m glad it wasn\u2019t anything to worry about. Thank god his vet is angel and didn\u2019t laugh me out of the building!","c_root_id_A":"i5o743x","c_root_id_B":"i5nyfm8","created_at_utc_A":1650577659,"created_at_utc_B":1650574020,"score_A":33,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Ha. Lovely. I wish more of my clients were like you. Worst outcome is you spent some money you didn\u2019t need to","human_ref_B":"It's okay, you love your dog, so any kind of lump is very scary.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3639.0,"score_ratio":1.5714285714}
{"post_id":"u8qpuv","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Today I took my dog to the vet for a \u201ctumor\u201d\u2026 I have a 15 pound Yorkie male, estimated about 8 years old.   About a week ago, when petting him, I found a mass on his shoulder\/back. It was hard and fairly mobile. I did some research, and came to the conclusion that it was most likely a lipoma or something else benign, but decided to have it checked out just in case.  I took him to the vet this morning and got my answer\u2026 It was his microchip.  A previous shelter had him chipped, and I don\u2019t know how I never noticed it before, but I\u2019m feeling a little silly. I just want to share this story to laugh at myself and my paranoia, and because I\u2019m glad it wasn\u2019t anything to worry about. Thank god his vet is angel and didn\u2019t laugh me out of the building!","c_root_id_A":"i5p4sk1","c_root_id_B":"i5ou9eg","created_at_utc_A":1650593248,"created_at_utc_B":1650588365,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"At least you didn\u2019t go to the vet thinking his nipple was a growth. Not me or anyone I know, but I\u2019ve heard plenty\u2026","human_ref_B":"What a relief! Glad your little guy is okay and chipped!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4883.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"u8qpuv","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Today I took my dog to the vet for a \u201ctumor\u201d\u2026 I have a 15 pound Yorkie male, estimated about 8 years old.   About a week ago, when petting him, I found a mass on his shoulder\/back. It was hard and fairly mobile. I did some research, and came to the conclusion that it was most likely a lipoma or something else benign, but decided to have it checked out just in case.  I took him to the vet this morning and got my answer\u2026 It was his microchip.  A previous shelter had him chipped, and I don\u2019t know how I never noticed it before, but I\u2019m feeling a little silly. I just want to share this story to laugh at myself and my paranoia, and because I\u2019m glad it wasn\u2019t anything to worry about. Thank god his vet is angel and didn\u2019t laugh me out of the building!","c_root_id_A":"i5r883q","c_root_id_B":"i5q97jz","created_at_utc_A":1650639361,"created_at_utc_B":1650620117,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"OP, you\u2019re an awesome owner and vets LOVE appointments like this - nothing wrong, but the pet parent cared enough to get it checked early just in case\u2026 you\u2019re a dream client! Don\u2019t feel silly!","human_ref_B":"You are a responsible, caring and loving mom to your dog - it is not silly. I wish all pet parents would be like this.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19244.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"lxypnb","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My hamster is very, very sick if you're a vet please recommend me something because i might not have a better choice than online advice. My 2 year old hamster got a very serious skin problem, his skin is very hurt and it started spreading from his legs to his whole body, he is all wet and his skin is very red, i have this video that shows how he is right now, you wont understand anything because its in portuguese but its only for you too see, if you have any idea of what it is please tell me. upvote if you're not a vet. https:\/\/youtu.be\/LCW0BhJD9tE","c_root_id_A":"gpsfm5e","c_root_id_B":"gps0ct6","created_at_utc_A":1614962559,"created_at_utc_B":1614955820,"score_A":10,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Take him to an emergency vet ASAP if you haven\u2019t ready","human_ref_B":"I wish I could help but all I have is an award for you. Sending hugs to you and your fluffball. I hope he feels better! \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6739.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"lxypnb","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"My hamster is very, very sick if you're a vet please recommend me something because i might not have a better choice than online advice. My 2 year old hamster got a very serious skin problem, his skin is very hurt and it started spreading from his legs to his whole body, he is all wet and his skin is very red, i have this video that shows how he is right now, you wont understand anything because its in portuguese but its only for you too see, if you have any idea of what it is please tell me. upvote if you're not a vet. https:\/\/youtu.be\/LCW0BhJD9tE","c_root_id_A":"gps0ct6","c_root_id_B":"gpsozib","created_at_utc_A":1614955820,"created_at_utc_B":1614966577,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I wish I could help but all I have is an award for you. Sending hugs to you and your fluffball. I hope he feels better! \ud83d\udc95","human_ref_B":"It's essential that your little hamster gets to a vet immediately, good luck..","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10757.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"lktiku","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Hello people. So my Male rabbit died four months ago and the female just had babies. Can rabbits store sperm or is it parthenogenesis ?","c_root_id_A":"gnmh5mj","c_root_id_B":"gnn4vn6","created_at_utc_A":1613459915,"created_at_utc_B":1613480723,"score_A":14,"score_B":29,"human_ref_A":"Maybe she was pregnant before he died","human_ref_B":"1) rabbits are sneaky  2) there's a ton of anecdotal discussion about delayed birth, but not a ton of evidence about the cause.   https:\/\/www.rabbitsonline.net\/threads\/delayed-pregnancy.69864\/","labels":0,"seconds_difference":20808.0,"score_ratio":2.0714285714}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ib9xon3","c_root_id_B":"ib9yc82","created_at_utc_A":1654451873,"created_at_utc_B":1654452175,"score_A":125,"score_B":184,"human_ref_A":"You didn't jump the gun. Seizures can be really difficult, and it's absolutely traumatizing espetwirh children. I am sorry you are going through this but you did not take the wrong path","human_ref_B":"You did a kindness. You were not going to fix him, upping meds can only go so far.   I\u2019m so sorry. He got dealt a bum hand. But it sounds like he had a wonderful and very loving family for his short time here. We feel the short time, dogs don\u2019t. All your good boy knew was love and happiness.   I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":302.0,"score_ratio":1.472}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb5nfc","c_root_id_B":"ibav02a","created_at_utc_A":1654473487,"created_at_utc_B":1654467962,"score_A":52,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"You did the right thing. My German shepherd of about 2 years asphyxiated to death after 4 hours of seizing. It was awful. For him and for us.","human_ref_B":"This isn\u2019t vet advice, but while you\u2019re on Reddit I\u2019d recommend visiting r\/petloss. It\u2019s a good place to reach out and be able to put your feelings out in a safe space.   As a personal bit of advice, allow yourself to feel what you need to and give yourself space to grieve. I\u2019ve lost two older dogs in the last year, childhood pets, and, like when losing anyone, you can\u2019t make it not hurt. You just have to lean on what support you have in friends and family, talk when you need to talk, and cry when you need to cry.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5525.0,"score_ratio":1.4054054054}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb5nfc","c_root_id_B":"ibaxtpv","created_at_utc_A":1654473487,"created_at_utc_B":1654469397,"score_A":52,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"You did the right thing. My German shepherd of about 2 years asphyxiated to death after 4 hours of seizing. It was awful. For him and for us.","human_ref_B":"You didn't jump the gun, you are just grieving and having a difficult time because your brain likes to remember him more often then not in times of health.  So you can't contrast his seizure episodes and their traumatic impact as well when your brain by default would rather remember him walking around just fine afterwards.  It's natural for you to do so, as a sympathetic and empathetic human being who cared for your pet immensely.   You couldn't have \"fixed\" him, per se.  And you have a lot on your plate with three children.  There are many aspects to this, considering your children, too.  The traumatic impact of them having to continue to watch their family pet have epilepsy and the factor that sometimes seizures damage the brain in ways that can cause unpredictable behaviors from animals.  Your dog, in his normal state, may have never ever considered harming a fly but there's also that slim chance that coming out of a cluster of seizures he could have accidentally bit one of the kids had they ran up worried about him.  Or if your kids are older and were home alone with him and he seized and they were trying to aide or comfort him, it could have happened.  Not that I'm saying it would have or anything like that!  Just another thing to throw out there.    When I was 16 my family dog (a rescued chi and weenie mix named Scrappy) accidentally pierced my nose for me coming out of a seizure.  I cautiously approached the area he was at because I heard a commotion, I thought another opossum had gotten into the house and got under my computer desk again.  But I leaned over and seen the tail end of the seizure happening and so I waited a moment and he calmed himself and started licking excessively as he usually did, so I leaned down and patted my leg for him to come over to me to make sure he could still walk.  He came over and leaned against my leg and it was like a shiver went through his whole body, I thought another one was starting so I stayed very still and he looked up at me and lunged at my face aggressively.  He got me the first time completely through my nostril, second time bit my lip before I got my hands over my face and was able to stand up, then he latched onto the back of my calf and thank goodness I had thick pants on.  He wouldn't let go, just clamped down.  No shaking his head, no growling, just teeth bared and jaw clenched down through my pants.  I yelled upstairs for my brother and he ran down and called for Scrappy dog and he just let go of my pants leg and excitedly ran to my brother like nothing happened at all.  It was bizarre, but ended up being the first incident in a series of incidents that would happen right after his seizures.  My mom thought that because we were older and that she could eventually \"cure\" him if the vets just got the medications right.  Eventually he ended up losing control of the entire back end of his body after the last set of seizures and my stepdad was able to convince my mom to let him go peacefully and be at rest.  I'm very cautious around dogs, I never was as a little kid or before that happened.  We had him for 11 years and he was seizure free for the first 8 years of his life, something just changed.  And as did his demeanor unfortunately.  I still loved him dearly though.  But just wanted to share my experience, we had tried every combination available of medications we could. Usually for 2-3 weeks at a time for each course before they would get worse.  I was a child so I didn't have control over how my parents dealt with the health care of our pets, but I wouldn't have let him suffer through hundreds of seizures because of the selfishness of my love for him, if it had been up to me.    Sometimes it's just something out of your control.  Don't try to dwell on it and work on remembering your puppy fondly and all the good memories you guys had together.   You made the right decision.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4090.0,"score_ratio":3.4666666667}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb5nfc","c_root_id_B":"iba907y","created_at_utc_A":1654473487,"created_at_utc_B":1654457266,"score_A":52,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"You did the right thing. My German shepherd of about 2 years asphyxiated to death after 4 hours of seizing. It was awful. For him and for us.","human_ref_B":"Was he treated with a standard firstline drug at all? IE Phenobarbital or Potassium Bromide?   Was the keppra extended release, or the standard keppra? Just because 12 hour dosing is usually not enough, it generally requires 8h dosing to work.  Certainly the severity of seizures you describe is concerning, and treatment can be very difficult in these dogs. It is also possible this was not just epilepsy, and and underlying disease was present. Was an MRI done?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16221.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb5nfc","c_root_id_B":"ibb1hqn","created_at_utc_A":1654473487,"created_at_utc_B":1654471290,"score_A":52,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"You did the right thing. My German shepherd of about 2 years asphyxiated to death after 4 hours of seizing. It was awful. For him and for us.","human_ref_B":"So many hugs to you.  You are a compassionate and kind soul and I can imagine the hole this leaves in your heart.  He knows you love him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2197.0,"score_ratio":8.6666666667}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibav02a","c_root_id_B":"ibbh3jx","created_at_utc_A":1654467962,"created_at_utc_B":1654479337,"score_A":37,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"This isn\u2019t vet advice, but while you\u2019re on Reddit I\u2019d recommend visiting r\/petloss. It\u2019s a good place to reach out and be able to put your feelings out in a safe space.   As a personal bit of advice, allow yourself to feel what you need to and give yourself space to grieve. I\u2019ve lost two older dogs in the last year, childhood pets, and, like when losing anyone, you can\u2019t make it not hurt. You just have to lean on what support you have in friends and family, talk when you need to talk, and cry when you need to cry.","human_ref_B":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11375.0,"score_ratio":1.0540540541}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibaxtpv","c_root_id_B":"ibbh3jx","created_at_utc_A":1654469397,"created_at_utc_B":1654479337,"score_A":15,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"You didn't jump the gun, you are just grieving and having a difficult time because your brain likes to remember him more often then not in times of health.  So you can't contrast his seizure episodes and their traumatic impact as well when your brain by default would rather remember him walking around just fine afterwards.  It's natural for you to do so, as a sympathetic and empathetic human being who cared for your pet immensely.   You couldn't have \"fixed\" him, per se.  And you have a lot on your plate with three children.  There are many aspects to this, considering your children, too.  The traumatic impact of them having to continue to watch their family pet have epilepsy and the factor that sometimes seizures damage the brain in ways that can cause unpredictable behaviors from animals.  Your dog, in his normal state, may have never ever considered harming a fly but there's also that slim chance that coming out of a cluster of seizures he could have accidentally bit one of the kids had they ran up worried about him.  Or if your kids are older and were home alone with him and he seized and they were trying to aide or comfort him, it could have happened.  Not that I'm saying it would have or anything like that!  Just another thing to throw out there.    When I was 16 my family dog (a rescued chi and weenie mix named Scrappy) accidentally pierced my nose for me coming out of a seizure.  I cautiously approached the area he was at because I heard a commotion, I thought another opossum had gotten into the house and got under my computer desk again.  But I leaned over and seen the tail end of the seizure happening and so I waited a moment and he calmed himself and started licking excessively as he usually did, so I leaned down and patted my leg for him to come over to me to make sure he could still walk.  He came over and leaned against my leg and it was like a shiver went through his whole body, I thought another one was starting so I stayed very still and he looked up at me and lunged at my face aggressively.  He got me the first time completely through my nostril, second time bit my lip before I got my hands over my face and was able to stand up, then he latched onto the back of my calf and thank goodness I had thick pants on.  He wouldn't let go, just clamped down.  No shaking his head, no growling, just teeth bared and jaw clenched down through my pants.  I yelled upstairs for my brother and he ran down and called for Scrappy dog and he just let go of my pants leg and excitedly ran to my brother like nothing happened at all.  It was bizarre, but ended up being the first incident in a series of incidents that would happen right after his seizures.  My mom thought that because we were older and that she could eventually \"cure\" him if the vets just got the medications right.  Eventually he ended up losing control of the entire back end of his body after the last set of seizures and my stepdad was able to convince my mom to let him go peacefully and be at rest.  I'm very cautious around dogs, I never was as a little kid or before that happened.  We had him for 11 years and he was seizure free for the first 8 years of his life, something just changed.  And as did his demeanor unfortunately.  I still loved him dearly though.  But just wanted to share my experience, we had tried every combination available of medications we could. Usually for 2-3 weeks at a time for each course before they would get worse.  I was a child so I didn't have control over how my parents dealt with the health care of our pets, but I wouldn't have let him suffer through hundreds of seizures because of the selfishness of my love for him, if it had been up to me.    Sometimes it's just something out of your control.  Don't try to dwell on it and work on remembering your puppy fondly and all the good memories you guys had together.   You made the right decision.","human_ref_B":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9940.0,"score_ratio":2.6}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"iba907y","c_root_id_B":"ibbh3jx","created_at_utc_A":1654457266,"created_at_utc_B":1654479337,"score_A":13,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"Was he treated with a standard firstline drug at all? IE Phenobarbital or Potassium Bromide?   Was the keppra extended release, or the standard keppra? Just because 12 hour dosing is usually not enough, it generally requires 8h dosing to work.  Certainly the severity of seizures you describe is concerning, and treatment can be very difficult in these dogs. It is also possible this was not just epilepsy, and and underlying disease was present. Was an MRI done?","human_ref_B":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22071.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibbh3jx","c_root_id_B":"ibb1hqn","created_at_utc_A":1654479337,"created_at_utc_B":1654471290,"score_A":39,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","human_ref_B":"So many hugs to you.  You are a compassionate and kind soul and I can imagine the hole this leaves in your heart.  He knows you love him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8047.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibbh3jx","c_root_id_B":"ibb6y5x","created_at_utc_A":1654479337,"created_at_utc_B":1654474168,"score_A":39,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","human_ref_B":"I lost my baby girl in 2020 and I still tear up and my voice cracks when I bring her up. I would have given her my kidneys if I could afford to do something like that. I can tell you did everything you could have. Yes, maybe you could have done more, but maybe everyone else could have done more too. Don\u2019t point the finger but don\u2019t take the brute of the decision. At this point, the decision was made and you can\u2019t take it back. For now just remember him at his best and maybe dedicate a day to celebrating him by doing something special that he would have enjoyed if he was still with you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5169.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb9u8p","c_root_id_B":"ibbh3jx","created_at_utc_A":1654475634,"created_at_utc_B":1654479337,"score_A":4,"score_B":39,"human_ref_A":"I would have likely made the same decisions as you.  Your dog is lucky to be part of your family.","human_ref_B":"I had a dog with severe epilepsy. Meds never made any improvement and we never got past three weeks without a grand mal seizure. At around age 4 we realized she was having small seizure episodes in between the three week grand mals. Her liver numbers were getting bad and there was no chance of her getting better or improving. Even the Valium protocol which is supposed to stop seizures immediately, failed to help. It\u2019s an incredibly hard choice to make but I refused to allow things to get worse. I promise eventually it will get better and you remember the good times more then the bad.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3703.0,"score_ratio":9.75}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"iba907y","c_root_id_B":"ibav02a","created_at_utc_A":1654457266,"created_at_utc_B":1654467962,"score_A":13,"score_B":37,"human_ref_A":"Was he treated with a standard firstline drug at all? IE Phenobarbital or Potassium Bromide?   Was the keppra extended release, or the standard keppra? Just because 12 hour dosing is usually not enough, it generally requires 8h dosing to work.  Certainly the severity of seizures you describe is concerning, and treatment can be very difficult in these dogs. It is also possible this was not just epilepsy, and and underlying disease was present. Was an MRI done?","human_ref_B":"This isn\u2019t vet advice, but while you\u2019re on Reddit I\u2019d recommend visiting r\/petloss. It\u2019s a good place to reach out and be able to put your feelings out in a safe space.   As a personal bit of advice, allow yourself to feel what you need to and give yourself space to grieve. I\u2019ve lost two older dogs in the last year, childhood pets, and, like when losing anyone, you can\u2019t make it not hurt. You just have to lean on what support you have in friends and family, talk when you need to talk, and cry when you need to cry.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10696.0,"score_ratio":2.8461538462}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"iba907y","c_root_id_B":"ibaxtpv","created_at_utc_A":1654457266,"created_at_utc_B":1654469397,"score_A":13,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Was he treated with a standard firstline drug at all? IE Phenobarbital or Potassium Bromide?   Was the keppra extended release, or the standard keppra? Just because 12 hour dosing is usually not enough, it generally requires 8h dosing to work.  Certainly the severity of seizures you describe is concerning, and treatment can be very difficult in these dogs. It is also possible this was not just epilepsy, and and underlying disease was present. Was an MRI done?","human_ref_B":"You didn't jump the gun, you are just grieving and having a difficult time because your brain likes to remember him more often then not in times of health.  So you can't contrast his seizure episodes and their traumatic impact as well when your brain by default would rather remember him walking around just fine afterwards.  It's natural for you to do so, as a sympathetic and empathetic human being who cared for your pet immensely.   You couldn't have \"fixed\" him, per se.  And you have a lot on your plate with three children.  There are many aspects to this, considering your children, too.  The traumatic impact of them having to continue to watch their family pet have epilepsy and the factor that sometimes seizures damage the brain in ways that can cause unpredictable behaviors from animals.  Your dog, in his normal state, may have never ever considered harming a fly but there's also that slim chance that coming out of a cluster of seizures he could have accidentally bit one of the kids had they ran up worried about him.  Or if your kids are older and were home alone with him and he seized and they were trying to aide or comfort him, it could have happened.  Not that I'm saying it would have or anything like that!  Just another thing to throw out there.    When I was 16 my family dog (a rescued chi and weenie mix named Scrappy) accidentally pierced my nose for me coming out of a seizure.  I cautiously approached the area he was at because I heard a commotion, I thought another opossum had gotten into the house and got under my computer desk again.  But I leaned over and seen the tail end of the seizure happening and so I waited a moment and he calmed himself and started licking excessively as he usually did, so I leaned down and patted my leg for him to come over to me to make sure he could still walk.  He came over and leaned against my leg and it was like a shiver went through his whole body, I thought another one was starting so I stayed very still and he looked up at me and lunged at my face aggressively.  He got me the first time completely through my nostril, second time bit my lip before I got my hands over my face and was able to stand up, then he latched onto the back of my calf and thank goodness I had thick pants on.  He wouldn't let go, just clamped down.  No shaking his head, no growling, just teeth bared and jaw clenched down through my pants.  I yelled upstairs for my brother and he ran down and called for Scrappy dog and he just let go of my pants leg and excitedly ran to my brother like nothing happened at all.  It was bizarre, but ended up being the first incident in a series of incidents that would happen right after his seizures.  My mom thought that because we were older and that she could eventually \"cure\" him if the vets just got the medications right.  Eventually he ended up losing control of the entire back end of his body after the last set of seizures and my stepdad was able to convince my mom to let him go peacefully and be at rest.  I'm very cautious around dogs, I never was as a little kid or before that happened.  We had him for 11 years and he was seizure free for the first 8 years of his life, something just changed.  And as did his demeanor unfortunately.  I still loved him dearly though.  But just wanted to share my experience, we had tried every combination available of medications we could. Usually for 2-3 weeks at a time for each course before they would get worse.  I was a child so I didn't have control over how my parents dealt with the health care of our pets, but I wouldn't have let him suffer through hundreds of seizures because of the selfishness of my love for him, if it had been up to me.    Sometimes it's just something out of your control.  Don't try to dwell on it and work on remembering your puppy fondly and all the good memories you guys had together.   You made the right decision.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12131.0,"score_ratio":1.1538461538}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibbsik6","c_root_id_B":"ibb1hqn","created_at_utc_A":1654485423,"created_at_utc_B":1654471290,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If it\u2019s this bad, this early, I think you\u2019re making the right decision. I had a dog with seizures too, they thought it was epilepsy but turned out to be a brain tumor. As he aged, it started pushing one of his eyes forward. We managed it pretty well from the time he was diagnosed at 4 until around 10 years old. But as soon as the cluster seizures started, it went downhill fast. We held out for two years, but in hindsight I should have made the decision sooner. It\u2019s such a hard thing to go through, I\u2019m sorry you didn\u2019t get more time with your pup.","human_ref_B":"So many hugs to you.  You are a compassionate and kind soul and I can imagine the hole this leaves in your heart.  He knows you love him.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":14133.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibbsik6","c_root_id_B":"ibb6y5x","created_at_utc_A":1654485423,"created_at_utc_B":1654474168,"score_A":9,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"If it\u2019s this bad, this early, I think you\u2019re making the right decision. I had a dog with seizures too, they thought it was epilepsy but turned out to be a brain tumor. As he aged, it started pushing one of his eyes forward. We managed it pretty well from the time he was diagnosed at 4 until around 10 years old. But as soon as the cluster seizures started, it went downhill fast. We held out for two years, but in hindsight I should have made the decision sooner. It\u2019s such a hard thing to go through, I\u2019m sorry you didn\u2019t get more time with your pup.","human_ref_B":"I lost my baby girl in 2020 and I still tear up and my voice cracks when I bring her up. I would have given her my kidneys if I could afford to do something like that. I can tell you did everything you could have. Yes, maybe you could have done more, but maybe everyone else could have done more too. Don\u2019t point the finger but don\u2019t take the brute of the decision. At this point, the decision was made and you can\u2019t take it back. For now just remember him at his best and maybe dedicate a day to celebrating him by doing something special that he would have enjoyed if he was still with you.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11255.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibboxdi","c_root_id_B":"ibbsik6","created_at_utc_A":1654483414,"created_at_utc_B":1654485423,"score_A":5,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"My four year old Boston was diagnosed with epilepsy when he was one, and it\u2019d be an understatement to say it truly changes our whole lives as owners. The constant unknown of when he might have a seizure, always needing an ER vet on speed dial and a plan to get them there as quickly as possible, planning everyday around their medication schedules\u2026. the responsibility is incredible.   Besides that, the medications can be so harsh and it\u2019s broken my heart seeing the side effects change my dog\u2019s entire personality. Mine is on phenobarbital and keppra and he\u2019s lethargic, overweight, and always zonked out. I love mine as much as I can tell you deeply loved yours, but epilepsy is one hell of a disease and I can totally understand your decision.  Although your pup\u2019s epilepsy seemed far more severe than mine\u2019s currently, I have thought about at what point will this get worse (because it always does no matter how much the meds are upped), and what I would do if euthanasia becomes a topic of conversation. The thought instantly sends me into a spiral, so my heart hurts for you. I am so sorry, and I hope yours is seizure free up there happy, whole, and running around with endless bones, treats, and his favorite toys.","human_ref_B":"If it\u2019s this bad, this early, I think you\u2019re making the right decision. I had a dog with seizures too, they thought it was epilepsy but turned out to be a brain tumor. As he aged, it started pushing one of his eyes forward. We managed it pretty well from the time he was diagnosed at 4 until around 10 years old. But as soon as the cluster seizures started, it went downhill fast. We held out for two years, but in hindsight I should have made the decision sooner. It\u2019s such a hard thing to go through, I\u2019m sorry you didn\u2019t get more time with your pup.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2009.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibbsik6","c_root_id_B":"ibb9u8p","created_at_utc_A":1654485423,"created_at_utc_B":1654475634,"score_A":9,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"If it\u2019s this bad, this early, I think you\u2019re making the right decision. I had a dog with seizures too, they thought it was epilepsy but turned out to be a brain tumor. As he aged, it started pushing one of his eyes forward. We managed it pretty well from the time he was diagnosed at 4 until around 10 years old. But as soon as the cluster seizures started, it went downhill fast. We held out for two years, but in hindsight I should have made the decision sooner. It\u2019s such a hard thing to go through, I\u2019m sorry you didn\u2019t get more time with your pup.","human_ref_B":"I would have likely made the same decisions as you.  Your dog is lucky to be part of your family.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9789.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibboxdi","c_root_id_B":"ibb9u8p","created_at_utc_A":1654483414,"created_at_utc_B":1654475634,"score_A":5,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"My four year old Boston was diagnosed with epilepsy when he was one, and it\u2019d be an understatement to say it truly changes our whole lives as owners. The constant unknown of when he might have a seizure, always needing an ER vet on speed dial and a plan to get them there as quickly as possible, planning everyday around their medication schedules\u2026. the responsibility is incredible.   Besides that, the medications can be so harsh and it\u2019s broken my heart seeing the side effects change my dog\u2019s entire personality. Mine is on phenobarbital and keppra and he\u2019s lethargic, overweight, and always zonked out. I love mine as much as I can tell you deeply loved yours, but epilepsy is one hell of a disease and I can totally understand your decision.  Although your pup\u2019s epilepsy seemed far more severe than mine\u2019s currently, I have thought about at what point will this get worse (because it always does no matter how much the meds are upped), and what I would do if euthanasia becomes a topic of conversation. The thought instantly sends me into a spiral, so my heart hurts for you. I am so sorry, and I hope yours is seizure free up there happy, whole, and running around with endless bones, treats, and his favorite toys.","human_ref_B":"I would have likely made the same decisions as you.  Your dog is lucky to be part of your family.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7780.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibb9u8p","c_root_id_B":"ibdace5","created_at_utc_A":1654475634,"created_at_utc_B":1654524998,"score_A":4,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I would have likely made the same decisions as you.  Your dog is lucky to be part of your family.","human_ref_B":"You made the kindest choice for him. It's hard when you have to make that decision about a young pet, but you had his best interest in mind and now he won't suffer anymore. If he had an episode like that without you home, it would be horrible for him. The fact that you're still worried about if it was best for him only solidifies that you and your husband are great pet parents in my eyes. I hope your happy memories with your pup bring you some comfort as you grieve him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":49364.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibdace5","c_root_id_B":"ibcxj3l","created_at_utc_A":1654524998,"created_at_utc_B":1654518066,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"You made the kindest choice for him. It's hard when you have to make that decision about a young pet, but you had his best interest in mind and now he won't suffer anymore. If he had an episode like that without you home, it would be horrible for him. The fact that you're still worried about if it was best for him only solidifies that you and your husband are great pet parents in my eyes. I hope your happy memories with your pup bring you some comfort as you grieve him.","human_ref_B":"Not a vet, just a personal anecdote.  When I was about 7 years old, our family dog started having seizures. I\u2019d never known a life without her, and yet it\u2019s all I can recall about her now. I vividly remember trying to do homework through tears as she seized in the kitchen on a blanket in my dad\u2019s arms. My mom was still at work, and dad was trying to keep pup safe and keep me calm because I was really freaked out.  I say this because you did the right thing for everyone involved. No animal deserves to live that way, no family deserves to go through that experience, and the violent nature of seizures can be very traumatizing for kids, especially if they\u2019re young. They\u2019ll likely remember the seizures more than the good times, and that\u2019s a horrible memory to have of the amazing pets we loved. Although we want them to stay with us forever, it\u2019s not possible, and it was best to let your pup and your family have peace.  Hope y\u2019all are doing okay \ud83d\udc95","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6932.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibd622h","c_root_id_B":"ibdace5","created_at_utc_A":1654522883,"created_at_utc_B":1654524998,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This is too fresh in your mind. Trust the vet's input that this was best for your dog's quality of life, even if you had thrown all your resources into managing the problem.  Give yourself some slack and accept that you will go through all the stages of grief and only time will eventually make the happy memories of the past 2 years shine brighter than the sadness you are going though now.  I'm not religious at all, so I feel a bit guilty about offering this, but it's the melancholy idea I like to picture whenever I think about when my and my dog's day will come around.","human_ref_B":"You made the kindest choice for him. It's hard when you have to make that decision about a young pet, but you had his best interest in mind and now he won't suffer anymore. If he had an episode like that without you home, it would be horrible for him. The fact that you're still worried about if it was best for him only solidifies that you and your husband are great pet parents in my eyes. I hope your happy memories with your pup bring you some comfort as you grieve him.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2115.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibd622h","c_root_id_B":"ibdxuat","created_at_utc_A":1654522883,"created_at_utc_B":1654535391,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is too fresh in your mind. Trust the vet's input that this was best for your dog's quality of life, even if you had thrown all your resources into managing the problem.  Give yourself some slack and accept that you will go through all the stages of grief and only time will eventually make the happy memories of the past 2 years shine brighter than the sadness you are going though now.  I'm not religious at all, so I feel a bit guilty about offering this, but it's the melancholy idea I like to picture whenever I think about when my and my dog's day will come around.","human_ref_B":"Euthanasia is the kind thing to do more often than we realize, especially when it directly affects us. You did the right thing, and it\u2019s easier to see when a stranger is looking in. I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12508.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"v5ij6d","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"2 year old lab has Epilepsy and decided on Euthanasia.  My male black lab Sirius was supposed to turn 2 next month. He was diagnosed with epilepsy in February. Since then he has had his medicine changed and upped 3 times. Keppra 1500mg and zonisamide 200 mg every 12 hours. He has progressively gotten worse and now was having up to 5 cluster seizures in a span of 3-4 hours.  He never makes it past 2 weeks. Fast Forward to last night at exactly 2 weeks since his last cluster of 5. He had 7 clusters in 3 hours. We rushed him to the ER and he seemed to come out of the 7th one and walked around fine finally. However the vet and my husband and I decided that euthanizing seemed fitting since he\u2019s not getting better and we have 3 small children. I\u2019m regretting my choice thinking we could have fixed him if we had kept upping his meds or changed them\u2026 Did I jump the gun?  He was progressively getting worse. We are heartbroken and I dont know how to heal. Any advice on healing is appreciated as well.","c_root_id_A":"ibdg3sc","c_root_id_B":"ibdxuat","created_at_utc_A":1654527712,"created_at_utc_B":1654535391,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Seizures could cause a very traumatic death for him and for your family to witness. The rate he was having seizures really increased the odds of that happening. I don\u2019t think you should feel any guilt or like you were jumping the gun. You gifted your dog a peaceful passing that he may not have had otherwise.","human_ref_B":"Euthanasia is the kind thing to do more often than we realize, especially when it directly affects us. You did the right thing, and it\u2019s easier to see when a stranger is looking in. I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7679.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"bdhkko","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Thank you everyone for your advice on getting a cat Because of you I decided to get Evelyn http:\/\/imgur.com\/gallery\/8uqRYPy who is a year and 6months and I can't thank you enough. Even at this at age she is a lot of work. I can only imagine how bad it would have been if I got a kitten or even a puppy \ud83d\ude02 I'm just not ready for that yet. I've been able to trim her nails, give her a bath that was completely calm to treat some dandruff, but I'm still working on brushing her teeth. It's a bit of a struggle but at least she likes the toothpaste I got her that the vet recommended. (I went to the vet before i got her to price things out because of some warning you guys gave me and it turns out I got plenty of savings)\u00a0 And I'm also changing her food to iams which the vet I met with also recommended.    She's not used to her name yet (it was given to her by the shelter) so it's a bit difficult to get her to come when I call her name but we will get there eventually I hope.    Evelyn is a very vocal cat who likes to wake me up very early. And while I do not appreciate it one bit at the moment I'm sure I will in the future. In the far future I think.    Also, I got a toy called da bird that was recommended and she cannot get enough of it. She barely plays with anything else and I totally think everyone should get at least one for their cats.","c_root_id_A":"ekyajfa","c_root_id_B":"ekyfq13","created_at_utc_A":1555347164,"created_at_utc_B":1555350343,"score_A":14,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Congrats! She\u2019s lovely!","human_ref_B":"Congratulations! Don't forget to save up some emergency funds or get some insurance for her!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3179.0,"score_ratio":1.6428571429}
{"post_id":"knvohb","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My cat is in heat, but she was spayed! Species: Cat   Age: 10 months  Sex\/Neuter status: Was neutered in September  Breed: Mixed\/Domestic shorthair  Body weight: No clue  History: I adopted her last month from a rescue. She has not shown any signs of being in heat up until this point.  Clinical signs: Crying, rolling around for hours, rubbing her face on everything, extra friendly, constantly licking her genitals, 'assuming the position' - butt up, tail to the side, but crouched low and kneading her back feet.  Duration: Today is day 7  Your general location:Connecticut, USA  I called the place that did the procedure and talked to a real cocky doctor who said there's no way she's in heat because HE did the surgery and knows he did it right. I think it's bullshit. She is 100% in heat and I looked it up and seems like she could have some ovarian tissue left. The vet wants to open her up and dig around, but at this point I hate this dude and don't want him anywhere near her. Also, there must be another way or test to figure this out, right??  I guess my question is: 1. Is it possible that there is tissue left? 2. Is there another way to figure out if there is?  3. If there is tissue, does it NEED to be removed?  Thank you in advance!!","c_root_id_A":"ghn8cd7","c_root_id_B":"ghn6ctl","created_at_utc_A":1609450938,"created_at_utc_B":1609449838,"score_A":115,"score_B":38,"human_ref_A":"1) It is possible to have ovarian tissue left in the body after a spay procedure. It\u2019s called ovarian remnant syndrome. It can happen if any piece (even if it\u2019s super tiny) of an ovary gets left in the body during surgery or if your cat has ectopic\/accessory ovarian tissue (extra ovarian tissue where it shouldn\u2019t be).   2) There are some tests that can be done to get an answer without opening her up again. Hormone testing, vaginal cytology, and ultrasound are a few. Cytology is cheap, the others are pretty pricey.   3) If any ovarian tissue was left, it absolutely should be removed. Aside from annoying heat behaviors, the female hormones that come from the ovaries increase the risk of malignant mammary tumor formation and pyometra (infection of the uterus, which can be life threatening). Some spay procedures involve removing uterus and ovaries while others just involve removing ovaries- doctors generally stick to whichever procedure they\u2019re more comfortable with so I have no idea which one your vet may have done. Additionally, a \u201cuterine stump\u201d is always unavoidably left in the body even if the uterus has been removed with the ovaries. Because of this, pyometra would be a concern with her either way.   Here\u2019s some more great info for you if you\u2019re looking for reading material: https:\/\/vcahospitals.com\/know-your-pet\/ovarian-remnant-syndrome-in-cats  At the end of the day, if you don\u2019t have a good relationship with your vet, you can always seek a second opinion. His\/her surgical skills aren\u2019t necessarily in question. Accessory ovarian tissue would not have been found during surgery unless s\/he opened your cat up all the way for a full exploratory surgery. But at a minimum s\/he should be willing to work amicably with you to figure out what\u2019s going on.   Thanks for a great question, and good luck with your fur baby!","human_ref_B":"https:\/\/www.vet.cornell.edu\/animal-health-diagnostic-center\/testing\/protocols\/feline-reproductive  This test works best while she is in heat. Note that she likely cannot get pregnant but keep her away from intact males just in case.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1100.0,"score_ratio":3.0263157895}
{"post_id":"knvohb","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"My cat is in heat, but she was spayed! Species: Cat   Age: 10 months  Sex\/Neuter status: Was neutered in September  Breed: Mixed\/Domestic shorthair  Body weight: No clue  History: I adopted her last month from a rescue. She has not shown any signs of being in heat up until this point.  Clinical signs: Crying, rolling around for hours, rubbing her face on everything, extra friendly, constantly licking her genitals, 'assuming the position' - butt up, tail to the side, but crouched low and kneading her back feet.  Duration: Today is day 7  Your general location:Connecticut, USA  I called the place that did the procedure and talked to a real cocky doctor who said there's no way she's in heat because HE did the surgery and knows he did it right. I think it's bullshit. She is 100% in heat and I looked it up and seems like she could have some ovarian tissue left. The vet wants to open her up and dig around, but at this point I hate this dude and don't want him anywhere near her. Also, there must be another way or test to figure this out, right??  I guess my question is: 1. Is it possible that there is tissue left? 2. Is there another way to figure out if there is?  3. If there is tissue, does it NEED to be removed?  Thank you in advance!!","c_root_id_A":"ghn6pia","c_root_id_B":"ghn8cd7","created_at_utc_A":1609450031,"created_at_utc_B":1609450938,"score_A":25,"score_B":115,"human_ref_A":"Recently had a similar case, Cornell has a diagnostic lab and offers a panel for ovarian remnant syndrome. It's fairly affordable. Believe it cost my client $300 or so for a diffinitive diagnosis of ORS.","human_ref_B":"1) It is possible to have ovarian tissue left in the body after a spay procedure. It\u2019s called ovarian remnant syndrome. It can happen if any piece (even if it\u2019s super tiny) of an ovary gets left in the body during surgery or if your cat has ectopic\/accessory ovarian tissue (extra ovarian tissue where it shouldn\u2019t be).   2) There are some tests that can be done to get an answer without opening her up again. Hormone testing, vaginal cytology, and ultrasound are a few. Cytology is cheap, the others are pretty pricey.   3) If any ovarian tissue was left, it absolutely should be removed. Aside from annoying heat behaviors, the female hormones that come from the ovaries increase the risk of malignant mammary tumor formation and pyometra (infection of the uterus, which can be life threatening). Some spay procedures involve removing uterus and ovaries while others just involve removing ovaries- doctors generally stick to whichever procedure they\u2019re more comfortable with so I have no idea which one your vet may have done. Additionally, a \u201cuterine stump\u201d is always unavoidably left in the body even if the uterus has been removed with the ovaries. Because of this, pyometra would be a concern with her either way.   Here\u2019s some more great info for you if you\u2019re looking for reading material: https:\/\/vcahospitals.com\/know-your-pet\/ovarian-remnant-syndrome-in-cats  At the end of the day, if you don\u2019t have a good relationship with your vet, you can always seek a second opinion. His\/her surgical skills aren\u2019t necessarily in question. Accessory ovarian tissue would not have been found during surgery unless s\/he opened your cat up all the way for a full exploratory surgery. But at a minimum s\/he should be willing to work amicably with you to figure out what\u2019s going on.   Thanks for a great question, and good luck with your fur baby!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":907.0,"score_ratio":4.6}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvword","c_root_id_B":"isvurbv","created_at_utc_A":1666145323,"created_at_utc_B":1666144457,"score_A":98,"score_B":97,"human_ref_A":"I recommend asking to sit down and go through the procedure and waking up procedure. Ask what vitals they monitor during, and after surgery, and how long they continue to monitor post. The majority of anesthesia related deaths occur during recovery. Therefore, monitoring after the procedure is important. A necropsy may be helpful as well to determine cause of death. This may help provide answers, it may not.   If they give you the run around or do not answer questions, you can file a complaint with your state\u2019s veterinary board for an investigation.  I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"It's super rare, but not impossible. You could get a necropsy.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":866.0,"score_ratio":1.0103092784}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvl7wv","c_root_id_B":"isvword","created_at_utc_A":1666140225,"created_at_utc_B":1666145323,"score_A":22,"score_B":98,"human_ref_A":"It's impossible to comment without seeing the medical records and having some knowledge about their post anesthesia monitoring protocol","human_ref_B":"I recommend asking to sit down and go through the procedure and waking up procedure. Ask what vitals they monitor during, and after surgery, and how long they continue to monitor post. The majority of anesthesia related deaths occur during recovery. Therefore, monitoring after the procedure is important. A necropsy may be helpful as well to determine cause of death. This may help provide answers, it may not.   If they give you the run around or do not answer questions, you can file a complaint with your state\u2019s veterinary board for an investigation.  I\u2019m sorry for your loss.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5098.0,"score_ratio":4.4545454545}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvl7wv","c_root_id_B":"isvurbv","created_at_utc_A":1666140225,"created_at_utc_B":1666144457,"score_A":22,"score_B":97,"human_ref_A":"It's impossible to comment without seeing the medical records and having some knowledge about their post anesthesia monitoring protocol","human_ref_B":"It's super rare, but not impossible. You could get a necropsy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4232.0,"score_ratio":4.4090909091}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvl7wv","c_root_id_B":"isw9de6","created_at_utc_A":1666140225,"created_at_utc_B":1666151570,"score_A":22,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"It's impossible to comment without seeing the medical records and having some knowledge about their post anesthesia monitoring protocol","human_ref_B":"The majority of anesthetic deaths occur in recovery ( after waking up) or during induction (being put under). So many things could cause an anesthesia related death. Something cardiac would be the top of the list, or regurgitation of stomach fluid that gets aspirated into the lungs. A necropsy might give you an answer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11345.0,"score_ratio":1.0909090909}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvzdpv","c_root_id_B":"isw9de6","created_at_utc_A":1666146557,"created_at_utc_B":1666151570,"score_A":2,"score_B":24,"human_ref_A":"Have you requested a necropsy? So many things could have been going on. Lots of risks with anesthesia that you can\u2019t see or predict. I\u2019d ask your vet to perform one. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"The majority of anesthetic deaths occur in recovery ( after waking up) or during induction (being put under). So many things could cause an anesthesia related death. Something cardiac would be the top of the list, or regurgitation of stomach fluid that gets aspirated into the lungs. A necropsy might give you an answer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5013.0,"score_ratio":12.0}
{"post_id":"y7lv66","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat passed away after dental surgery My 7 year old cat went to the vet today for dental work which i was told included removal of a broken tooth. I was told the dental surgery was successful and told me she was fine when she woke up but soon after when they checked on her again, she was deceased I have so many questions, but they are vague on how a healthy cat died and i just want to know how it happened and how long she was fine for im so confused she was very playful this morning too any advice would be very appreciated","c_root_id_A":"isvzdpv","c_root_id_B":"iswmfv4","created_at_utc_A":1666146557,"created_at_utc_B":1666160053,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Have you requested a necropsy? So many things could have been going on. Lots of risks with anesthesia that you can\u2019t see or predict. I\u2019d ask your vet to perform one. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. \u2764\ufe0f","human_ref_B":"I just want to start with saying I am so sorry for you loss. With routine procedures there is always a risk. It is never not zero even for healthy animals. Being under general anaesthesia causes risks no matter what. Approx 1 in 900 cats can pass away from general anaesthesia, this is why you sign a consent form during admission where the risks should have been explained to you.  If they haven\u2019t fully been explained or written down that is a little bit their fault for not telling you what you were signing. It might make you feel better to get a necropsy but honestly I believe it just a draw of bad luck.  Please hear them out and see what they say about the what happened. I appreciate your grief and shock but I am sure the veterinary staff did all they could according to protocol. Losing a patient is very hard on the mental health of the staff mostly from a healthy one.  I speak from experience.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13496.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0eo1qw","c_root_id_B":"g0dv0a0","created_at_utc_A":1596597453,"created_at_utc_B":1596580681,"score_A":51,"score_B":41,"human_ref_A":"This is an emergency - the cat needs to see a vet now","human_ref_B":"Could you provide a little more detail-   What do you mean visible? You can see the bulge where the kitten is or like the poor cat has a hole in her flank and there is a kitten coming out of it?   I don't really understand the situation.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":16772.0,"score_ratio":1.243902439}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0eo1qw","c_root_id_B":"g0el4zx","created_at_utc_A":1596597453,"created_at_utc_B":1596595681,"score_A":51,"score_B":25,"human_ref_A":"This is an emergency - the cat needs to see a vet now","human_ref_B":"Please try to catch her and get her to a vet","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1772.0,"score_ratio":2.04}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0eo1qw","c_root_id_B":"g0ehugs","created_at_utc_A":1596597453,"created_at_utc_B":1596593673,"score_A":51,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"This is an emergency - the cat needs to see a vet now","human_ref_B":"Please take her to a vet!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3780.0,"score_ratio":2.3181818182}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0eo1qw","c_root_id_B":"g0ejhwb","created_at_utc_A":1596597453,"created_at_utc_B":1596594681,"score_A":51,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"This is an emergency - the cat needs to see a vet now","human_ref_B":"Get the poor baby to the vet!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2772.0,"score_ratio":2.55}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0el4zx","c_root_id_B":"g0ehugs","created_at_utc_A":1596595681,"created_at_utc_B":1596593673,"score_A":25,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Please try to catch her and get her to a vet","human_ref_B":"Please take her to a vet!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2008.0,"score_ratio":1.1363636364}
{"post_id":"i3suis","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Stray cat giving birth, unborn kitten visible from abdomen wall?? What in the world is going on with this poor cat... I have an image but I'm not sure how to attach it here, it looks like something from a horror movie...","c_root_id_A":"g0el4zx","c_root_id_B":"g0ejhwb","created_at_utc_A":1596595681,"created_at_utc_B":1596594681,"score_A":25,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Please try to catch her and get her to a vet","human_ref_B":"Get the poor baby to the vet!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1000.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"kigwdj","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Dog came back from vet with foot injury Hello,  My dog went the vet to get three surgeries done at once. He had a growth in his mouth removed, a few teeth were pulled in the process. He also had a large mole on his back removed as well as a ping pong ball sized fat deposit removed off of his right rear foot.   When he returned from the vet we had noticed a small scrape on his left rear foot. It was just something small. The next day it looked like his entire pad was peeling off.  We called the vet and they told us that they don\u2019t know how that happened but that we should go to another vet in a nearby city and that they would pay for the vet bills.  The new vet has no idea how this could have happened but bandaged his foot. He gets the bandages replaced once per day and the foot is getting worse.  I have a poor quality photo from the vet but can\u2019t seem to attach it.  Does anyone know what might have happened to that foot while he was at the vet?  He is a Shnoodle. 26lbs. 13 years old. The foot is been like this for 5 days now.  Any feedback helps.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"ggqt1u0","c_root_id_B":"ggqz1py","created_at_utc_A":1608680966,"created_at_utc_B":1608684261,"score_A":44,"score_B":81,"human_ref_A":"Has the vet that did the original surgery seen the foot again? That looks like it needs more than just bandage changes. Also, how are the rest of his surgical sites healing?","human_ref_B":"Wow. That looks terrible and very painful.   I\u2019m just curious, is this normal practice? For a vet to say \u201cwe don\u2019t wanna deal with it but we\u2019ll pay for your vet visits\u201d? That seems like an inadvertent admission of guilt imo","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3295.0,"score_ratio":1.8409090909}
{"post_id":"ckoicl","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Are you instructed to tell me that I did a good job caring for my sick pet, regardless of truth? In two separate cases of my pet dying from illness, the vets complimented how well I cared for my pet and specifically how diligently I administered medication.  While I think I was indeed a good caregiver, I can't see how the vets could make that evaluation.  They didn't perform autopsies or do anything invasive to my pets after discharging them, so I can't see how they would know whether or not I did a good job.  This was all ages ago.  I'm not beating myself up or anything, but not knowing whether I was given some white lies has been bugging me.","c_root_id_A":"evphv4w","c_root_id_B":"evpw8yv","created_at_utc_A":1564673826,"created_at_utc_B":1564681431,"score_A":23,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"I am honest when it comes to these things as well - If I didn't think you were doing a good job, I wouldn't share that. It's all about giving recognition to those who are willing to \"make it work\" and figure something out, for their pet's benefit.","human_ref_B":"You know, our vet tells us we do a great job keeping our big one's ears clean every time we go in. Every time Mr. Otoscope comes out, it's invariably followed by \"He has the cleanest ears I've ever seen!\" He's just north of 80 lbs., and has huge, cavernous ears.  I don't deserve credit for it, though; my dachshund loves the taste of ~~Cinnamon Toast Crunch~~ earwax. We try to discourage it, but we have to sleep eventually.  After learning this fact, their smiles fade to a combination of disappointment in me, and disgust when they realize just how much earwax she'd have to eat to keep them that clean.   ...and that she then turbohumps him until she falls off for payment. Disgusting animal.  But no, I don't think they *have* to tell you. And as the others have mentioned, just by taking your animals to the vet, you're already done more than some.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7605.0,"score_ratio":2.2173913043}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0s4dif","c_root_id_B":"i0snws4","created_at_utc_A":1647368760,"created_at_utc_B":1647376314,"score_A":5,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"No","human_ref_B":"I love this hypothetical question lmao","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7554.0,"score_ratio":9.2}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0s4dif","c_root_id_B":"i0t2qu5","created_at_utc_A":1647368760,"created_at_utc_B":1647381998,"score_A":5,"score_B":31,"human_ref_A":"No","human_ref_B":"I'm just going to point out that I doubt an apocalypse would take out all mice, birds and protein filled insects so I think a cat could be fine.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13238.0,"score_ratio":6.2}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0t2qu5","c_root_id_B":"i0swrls","created_at_utc_A":1647381998,"created_at_utc_B":1647379703,"score_A":31,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I'm just going to point out that I doubt an apocalypse would take out all mice, birds and protein filled insects so I think a cat could be fine.","human_ref_B":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2295.0,"score_ratio":10.3333333333}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0trfua","c_root_id_B":"i0twh0m","created_at_utc_A":1647392600,"created_at_utc_B":1647394807,"score_A":12,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Your cat can always eat zombie meat.","human_ref_B":"As a vegan, making cats eat a vegan diet is animal abuse which is antithetical to the vegan lifestyle.  My cats get fresh caught salmon on their birthdays and regular cat food every day.  They need meat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2207.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0s4dif","c_root_id_B":"i0trfua","created_at_utc_A":1647368760,"created_at_utc_B":1647392600,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"No","human_ref_B":"Your cat can always eat zombie meat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":23840.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0trfua","c_root_id_B":"i0t93y5","created_at_utc_A":1647392600,"created_at_utc_B":1647384604,"score_A":12,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Your cat can always eat zombie meat.","human_ref_B":"vegan here: (yes i must start every sentence with that [and graze on any patch of grass i see]) i\u2019ve gotta say nope. cats (unlike most other pets) are obligate carnivores. there\u2019s no way around it physiologically.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7996.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0swrls","c_root_id_B":"i0trfua","created_at_utc_A":1647379703,"created_at_utc_B":1647392600,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","human_ref_B":"Your cat can always eat zombie meat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12897.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0twh0m","c_root_id_B":"i0tw9q6","created_at_utc_A":1647394807,"created_at_utc_B":1647394722,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"As a vegan, making cats eat a vegan diet is animal abuse which is antithetical to the vegan lifestyle.  My cats get fresh caught salmon on their birthdays and regular cat food every day.  They need meat.","human_ref_B":"Technically there is tons of meat around in the form of zombies. Get a hoard of cats to follow you  to fight the zombies","labels":1,"seconds_difference":85.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0s4dif","c_root_id_B":"i0twh0m","created_at_utc_A":1647368760,"created_at_utc_B":1647394807,"score_A":5,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"No","human_ref_B":"As a vegan, making cats eat a vegan diet is animal abuse which is antithetical to the vegan lifestyle.  My cats get fresh caught salmon on their birthdays and regular cat food every day.  They need meat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":26047.0,"score_ratio":2.8}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0t93y5","c_root_id_B":"i0twh0m","created_at_utc_A":1647384604,"created_at_utc_B":1647394807,"score_A":4,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"vegan here: (yes i must start every sentence with that [and graze on any patch of grass i see]) i\u2019ve gotta say nope. cats (unlike most other pets) are obligate carnivores. there\u2019s no way around it physiologically.","human_ref_B":"As a vegan, making cats eat a vegan diet is animal abuse which is antithetical to the vegan lifestyle.  My cats get fresh caught salmon on their birthdays and regular cat food every day.  They need meat.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10203.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0twh0m","c_root_id_B":"i0swrls","created_at_utc_A":1647394807,"created_at_utc_B":1647379703,"score_A":14,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"As a vegan, making cats eat a vegan diet is animal abuse which is antithetical to the vegan lifestyle.  My cats get fresh caught salmon on their birthdays and regular cat food every day.  They need meat.","human_ref_B":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15104.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0s4dif","c_root_id_B":"i0tw9q6","created_at_utc_A":1647368760,"created_at_utc_B":1647394722,"score_A":5,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"No","human_ref_B":"Technically there is tons of meat around in the form of zombies. Get a hoard of cats to follow you  to fight the zombies","labels":0,"seconds_difference":25962.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0tw9q6","c_root_id_B":"i0t93y5","created_at_utc_A":1647394722,"created_at_utc_B":1647384604,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Technically there is tons of meat around in the form of zombies. Get a hoard of cats to follow you  to fight the zombies","human_ref_B":"vegan here: (yes i must start every sentence with that [and graze on any patch of grass i see]) i\u2019ve gotta say nope. cats (unlike most other pets) are obligate carnivores. there\u2019s no way around it physiologically.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10118.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0swrls","c_root_id_B":"i0tw9q6","created_at_utc_A":1647379703,"created_at_utc_B":1647394722,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","human_ref_B":"Technically there is tons of meat around in the form of zombies. Get a hoard of cats to follow you  to fight the zombies","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15019.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0txhi0","c_root_id_B":"i0s4dif","created_at_utc_A":1647395247,"created_at_utc_B":1647368760,"score_A":7,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"No. Cat are obligate carnivores, meaning they must eat meat to survive.","human_ref_B":"No","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26487.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0t93y5","c_root_id_B":"i0txhi0","created_at_utc_A":1647384604,"created_at_utc_B":1647395247,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"vegan here: (yes i must start every sentence with that [and graze on any patch of grass i see]) i\u2019ve gotta say nope. cats (unlike most other pets) are obligate carnivores. there\u2019s no way around it physiologically.","human_ref_B":"No. Cat are obligate carnivores, meaning they must eat meat to survive.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10643.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0txhi0","c_root_id_B":"i0swrls","created_at_utc_A":1647395247,"created_at_utc_B":1647379703,"score_A":7,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"No. Cat are obligate carnivores, meaning they must eat meat to survive.","human_ref_B":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15544.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"tet692","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"[NOT SERIOUS] Could a cat live on a vegan diet? I don't know if these sort of posts are allowed here but I was thinking about a situation in which a zombie apocalypse I would be able to live on a vegan diet to sustain myself safely but I'd obviously want my cat to be alive with me would my cat be able to live on the same diet as me even if it affects the quality of life would they still be alive or would I have to hunt for my cat","c_root_id_A":"i0swrls","c_root_id_B":"i0t93y5","created_at_utc_A":1647379703,"created_at_utc_B":1647384604,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"someone arrest this person and call animal services \/s","human_ref_B":"vegan here: (yes i must start every sentence with that [and graze on any patch of grass i see]) i\u2019ve gotta say nope. cats (unlike most other pets) are obligate carnivores. there\u2019s no way around it physiologically.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4901.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"y0vq9p","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Brain tumor or canine dementia? And am I being selfish for keeping my dog alive? Hi vet friends. I\u2019ll try to keep this as concise as I can.   I have a very old cocker spaniel\/golden retriever mix. I adopted him from a shelter about 12 years and they told me he was between 3-8 years old at the time, so he\u2019s at least 15 but could possibly be 20. We always joke that he\u2019s immortal because he looks like a puppy. He\u2019s basically the center of my whole world and I love him more than anything. It\u2019s with a very heavy heart that I say I think he\u2019s getting ready to cross the bridge.   He\u2019s had arthritis for a few years, and the typical slow onset of cataracts you see in older dogs. But other that, he\u2019s been really healthy. Until four months ago when he had a seizure for the very first time. Our vet told us that he likely has a brain tumor, but the only way to find out is to do an MRI. The thing is, if he were half his age, I would do this in a heartbeat. But he\u2019s so old and fragile that I don\u2019t think it\u2019s kind to put him through a bunch of tests. Even if they found a tumor, I wouldn\u2019t subject him to treatment. I just want him to enjoy what little time he has left without getting poked and prodded at a scary vets office. So, since then we\u2019ve had him on gabapentin as a seizure preventative, galaprant for pain management, and Xanax for anxiety. I\u2019m sort of looking at this as palliative care. I know he\u2019s on his last legs. Like I said, I\u2019m just trying to make him comfortable.   Over the last couple of weeks, he\u2019s gotten really wobbly and has been getting lost in corners and pawing at one of his eyes like it\u2019s bothering him. I think he might have lost all vision in that eye. He\u2019s still very content to cuddle with me on the couch, go for a short walk up the street, he\u2019s eating and drinking just fine. But he just seems so confused and turned around. I\u2019m starting to wonder if he\u2019s really enjoying his life at all anymore.   The thought of putting him down when he\u2019s not obviously on death\u2019s doorstep is really excruciating for me, but I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s kind to make him wait. I don\u2019t see this going anywhere but downhill. I have the number of a mobile pet hospice that will do in-home euthanasia, which makes me feel much better than taking him to the vet (which he really hates.) I just don\u2019t know if it\u2019s the right time. Everyone says I\u2019ll know when it is, but I don\u2019t think I will. Like I said, he\u2019s my whole world. I don\u2019t know what to do.   Anyway, if you made it this far thank you for reading. And I appreciate all of your advice.","c_root_id_A":"irvy06s","c_root_id_B":"irvczzq","created_at_utc_A":1665494876,"created_at_utc_B":1665481514,"score_A":31,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"Hey OP - get that eye checked. A superficial ulcer or glaucoma is **really painful** and may be treatable.","human_ref_B":"Good days and Bad days. Logging them on a calendar can show objectively how the dog is doing. BUT dogs will try to be happy for their owner, even when they\u2019re not doing well.   If you were in your dogs position, what is happiness for you. Eating, sleeping, going potty is not happiness.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13362.0,"score_ratio":1.4090909091}
{"post_id":"sa7bm4","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"MY dog (cocker spaniel mix with golden retriever) hasn\u2019t opened his eyes in 24hr and when he tries to they roll back. My dog is 6 years old and hasn\u2019t opened his eyes since noon yesterday! He would still walk around and still wanted to go for car rides but just keep his eyes closed or squint very low. Today he\u2019s acting pretty lethargic eyes won\u2019t open today and he won\u2019t squint anymore. When I try to get him to open them they look rolled back and he has white\/ grey drainage at the corners of his eyes. He won\u2019t drink water today and his nose is now drying :(  -I\u2019m very nervous because I once had a pitbull who\u2019s eye slightly popped out and rolled to the side and she began having seizures and we found out she had a tumor!-  Anyways my cocker spaniel mix doggo has a vet appointment in a couple of hours. I hope it\u2019s just an infection and can be treated with antibiotics! Has anyone else experienced this with their pet?","c_root_id_A":"htt8frk","c_root_id_B":"htsmq6s","created_at_utc_A":1642896457,"created_at_utc_B":1642887617,"score_A":17,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"How is you pup?","human_ref_B":"Hopefully you\u2019re at the ER?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8840.0,"score_ratio":1.8888888889}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxk7z4c","c_root_id_B":"hxjtbn5","created_at_utc_A":1645264273,"created_at_utc_B":1645252708,"score_A":82,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"You could send her for an autopsy at another vet for unbiased review. I'm sorry for your loss OP. Honestly it is possible that they didn't do anything wrong, cats hide illness so well and if they didn't check her heart in particular, it's possible with her age and the stressful events caused an issue. You really won't know until you get an autopsy, but I hope you can get some answers.","human_ref_B":"Autopsy by another vet?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11565.0,"score_ratio":5.125}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxjozu7","c_root_id_B":"hxk7z4c","created_at_utc_A":1645249738,"created_at_utc_B":1645264273,"score_A":2,"score_B":82,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"You could send her for an autopsy at another vet for unbiased review. I'm sorry for your loss OP. Honestly it is possible that they didn't do anything wrong, cats hide illness so well and if they didn't check her heart in particular, it's possible with her age and the stressful events caused an issue. You really won't know until you get an autopsy, but I hope you can get some answers.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14535.0,"score_ratio":41.0}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxjtbn5","c_root_id_B":"hxkx71a","created_at_utc_A":1645252708,"created_at_utc_B":1645281408,"score_A":16,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Autopsy by another vet?","human_ref_B":"I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure the vets and staff who saw her are feeling pretty shaken up and upset by this also, I know I would be. I'd recommend that she goes for a post mortem examination (also known as a necropsy) as others have already suggested. Whilst sadly they might not be able to give you definitive answers, they will most certainly be able to rule in \/ out any accidental catastrophic trauma from the cystocentesis. This will help you and the vets further understand what happened and if anything should be done differently.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":28700.0,"score_ratio":1.3125}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxkx71a","c_root_id_B":"hxjozu7","created_at_utc_A":1645281408,"created_at_utc_B":1645249738,"score_A":21,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure the vets and staff who saw her are feeling pretty shaken up and upset by this also, I know I would be. I'd recommend that she goes for a post mortem examination (also known as a necropsy) as others have already suggested. Whilst sadly they might not be able to give you definitive answers, they will most certainly be able to rule in \/ out any accidental catastrophic trauma from the cystocentesis. This will help you and the vets further understand what happened and if anything should be done differently.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":31670.0,"score_ratio":10.5}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxjozu7","c_root_id_B":"hxjtbn5","created_at_utc_A":1645249738,"created_at_utc_B":1645252708,"score_A":2,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Autopsy by another vet?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2970.0,"score_ratio":8.0}
{"post_id":"sw2smh","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Cat died yesterday after vet visit My 10 yr old cat has had urine issues so I decided to finally do a senior blood panel and urine test on her. They took her back to do the cystocentesis (needle thru bladder to get urine) and gave her an anti biotic shot. Brought her back to me in her carrier and I went to my cat. I think she meowed once and she\u2019s a very loud, talky cat. Driving home I was on the phone and heard her do one of her loud yowls, than sondes like a couple of deep pants. I get home like 6 minutes later and take her inside to get her out of the carrier and she\u2019s dead! I am devastated and cannot understand what happened. Vet swears they did the test using ultrasound to locate bladder etc and nothing else was pricked. I cannot help feeling like they did something wrong. Anyone ever have this happen? Thanks for any responses.","c_root_id_A":"hxlqnlf","c_root_id_B":"hxjozu7","created_at_utc_A":1645293861,"created_at_utc_B":1645249738,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This happened to my cat.  He was 3 years old.  I adopted him when he was 1. He had successfully undergone surgery\/anesthetic twice (neuter; foreign body) before he was 2.   I had him in the clinic for routine exam and vx (ones he\u2019d had before).  That night he died at home within a few minutes.  It was unrelated to the visit.  There are a few things that can cause this and give no overt signs prior.  As others have noted you can get a necropsy to determine an exact cause of death.  Or you could have a call with the vet and they will be able to tell you some specific conditions that may have caused this.  I\u2019m so sorry for your loss.","human_ref_B":"Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":44123.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx2wlk","c_root_id_B":"evx2iut","created_at_utc_A":1564880359,"created_at_utc_B":1564880053,"score_A":61,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Referral to an internal medicine specialist may be warranted.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d like to see some bloodwork - CBC and differential, chemistry panel - for starters.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":306.0,"score_ratio":2.652173913}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx20p2","c_root_id_B":"evx2wlk","created_at_utc_A":1564879649,"created_at_utc_B":1564880359,"score_A":10,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"Have they checked for dehydration \/ has he been given fluids?","human_ref_B":"Referral to an internal medicine specialist may be warranted.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":710.0,"score_ratio":6.1}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx2hql","c_root_id_B":"evx2wlk","created_at_utc_A":1564880029,"created_at_utc_B":1564880359,"score_A":8,"score_B":61,"human_ref_A":"You could seek a second opinion or ask for a referral of your vets are stumped.","human_ref_B":"Referral to an internal medicine specialist may be warranted.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":330.0,"score_ratio":7.625}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx20p2","c_root_id_B":"evx2iut","created_at_utc_A":1564879649,"created_at_utc_B":1564880053,"score_A":10,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"Have they checked for dehydration \/ has he been given fluids?","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d like to see some bloodwork - CBC and differential, chemistry panel - for starters.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":404.0,"score_ratio":2.3}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx2hql","c_root_id_B":"evx2iut","created_at_utc_A":1564880029,"created_at_utc_B":1564880053,"score_A":8,"score_B":23,"human_ref_A":"You could seek a second opinion or ask for a referral of your vets are stumped.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d like to see some bloodwork - CBC and differential, chemistry panel - for starters.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":24.0,"score_ratio":2.875}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx20p2","c_root_id_B":"evxy0gg","created_at_utc_A":1564879649,"created_at_utc_B":1564913662,"score_A":10,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Have they checked for dehydration \/ has he been given fluids?","human_ref_B":"Not sure if this is allowed, just want to say thank you for all your time, tears, effort and money. Little One is fortunate to have you-lots of people would have given up earlier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":34013.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx2hql","c_root_id_B":"evxy0gg","created_at_utc_A":1564880029,"created_at_utc_B":1564913662,"score_A":8,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"You could seek a second opinion or ask for a referral of your vets are stumped.","human_ref_B":"Not sure if this is allowed, just want to say thank you for all your time, tears, effort and money. Little One is fortunate to have you-lots of people would have given up earlier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":33633.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evxy0gg","c_root_id_B":"evx5806","created_at_utc_A":1564913662,"created_at_utc_B":1564882229,"score_A":12,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Not sure if this is allowed, just want to say thank you for all your time, tears, effort and money. Little One is fortunate to have you-lots of people would have given up earlier.","human_ref_B":"Perhaps an ultrasound and\/or a second opinion?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":31433.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx3rhb","c_root_id_B":"evxy0gg","created_at_utc_A":1564881046,"created_at_utc_B":1564913662,"score_A":5,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Have they scoped his throat to look for abnormalities?","human_ref_B":"Not sure if this is allowed, just want to say thank you for all your time, tears, effort and money. Little One is fortunate to have you-lots of people would have given up earlier.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":32616.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evxy0gg","c_root_id_B":"evx433q","created_at_utc_A":1564913662,"created_at_utc_B":1564881307,"score_A":12,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Not sure if this is allowed, just want to say thank you for all your time, tears, effort and money. Little One is fortunate to have you-lots of people would have given up earlier.","human_ref_B":"1) How experienced are you at tube feeding?  Is this your first animal that you've tube-fed?  2) Have the vets done bloodwork on your kitten?  And if not, why?  3) Have you gone to a different vet yet for a 2nd opinion?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":32355.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx2hql","c_root_id_B":"evx5806","created_at_utc_A":1564880029,"created_at_utc_B":1564882229,"score_A":8,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"You could seek a second opinion or ask for a referral of your vets are stumped.","human_ref_B":"Perhaps an ultrasound and\/or a second opinion?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2200.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx5806","c_root_id_B":"evx3rhb","created_at_utc_A":1564882229,"created_at_utc_B":1564881046,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Perhaps an ultrasound and\/or a second opinion?","human_ref_B":"Have they scoped his throat to look for abnormalities?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1183.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"clpj7y","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"11-Week-Old Kitten Continuously Refusing Food for 7 Weeks; Our Vets Are Stumped, and We Are Desperate for Suggestions Species: cat  Age: almost 11 weeks  Sex\/Neuter status: intact  Breed: domestic short hair  Body weight: 2lbs 7.5oz  History: This kitten is a bottle baby that we've had since he was 12 hours old. He was born premature to an inexperienced mother and was too weak to nurse. Mom rejected him, and when we arrived to take a look at him and see if we could help, he was cold to the touch and lethargic. We eventually got him to latch and nurse from a syringe with a Miracle Nipple attachment, but could not get him to feed from mom, and took him home.  Everything was going smoothly (healthy, growing, hitting milestones) until he was almost four weeks old, at which point I noticed a mucous discharge from his genital region. Initially his behavior was unchanged, but we took him to the vet anyway to check it out. They said they didn't know what it was and turned us away without answers. A few days later, he became really weak and started refusing formula, so we went back to the vet and asked for an antibiotic. He was prescribed Clavamox and we were given a tube feeding kit to help get food into him, as he would no longer eat any other way.  His appetite was gone, initially, because he was sick, I thought; but then the mucous went away within 48 hours, and he still wouldn't eat. Then I thought it was because of the antibiotic, which gave him horrible diarrhea, but his appetite didn't come back after the antibiotic course was completed--almost two months ago. In the meantime, we have continued tube feeding him as otherwise he will waste away.  We've tried poultry baby food, several brands and flavors of canned food (both pat\u00e9 and chunky, and including what I call \"kitty crack,\" the urgent care stuff cats go nuts for), several brands of dry kibble, formula, fresh chicken breast (both raw and cooked), he doesn't want any of it. We've tried letting him get really hungry in hopes that he'd eventually cave in, but he'll refuse food until he's weak and scrawny and I step in to plump him back up.  Recently we've tried using transdermal Mirataz, which we got from the vet, to stimulate appetite. In the hours immediately after an application, and assuming he's very hungry, he will eat a small amount of food voluntarily, but even under these conditions, it's not enough to survive: I'd estimate the equivalent of 1.5oz chicken breast at the most over a 24-hour period, which is only 60-something kcal.  We're at our wit's end. He shows no symptoms besides lack of appetite. We've had a stool sample tested and urinalysis done, and both came up clear. He has no respiratory issues, no diarrhea, no vomiting. He plays like a normal kitten, is energetic and affectionate. He just refuses to eat. And I refuse to give up on him while he maintains a high overall quality of life.   It's hard to continue tube feeding this baby, but the inconvenience isn't our largest concern. I am terrified there's something wrong with him that's causing this strange behavior and we just don't know what it is. I worry he's a ticking time bomb. He's been in and out of the vet's office time after time, but no one has any answers or suggestions for us. They say we're already doing all the right things, and they have never seen a case like this before.  Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing this? Tests that we might request going forward? We'll try anything promising; money isn't a concern here. We need a direction, because right now we're only turning up question marks.  This is my baby, and I want to protect him, but I don't know what's wrong and where to go from here.  Cat tax: https:\/\/imgur.com\/vLslqkJ","c_root_id_A":"evx433q","c_root_id_B":"evx5806","created_at_utc_A":1564881307,"created_at_utc_B":1564882229,"score_A":5,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"1) How experienced are you at tube feeding?  Is this your first animal that you've tube-fed?  2) Have the vets done bloodwork on your kitten?  And if not, why?  3) Have you gone to a different vet yet for a 2nd opinion?","human_ref_B":"Perhaps an ultrasound and\/or a second opinion?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":922.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"xgvpls","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"I wiped my hands with a wipe that has mint oil. Is thing dangerous to my cat is I petted him on the head? What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"iouboac","c_root_id_B":"iou5ymm","created_at_utc_A":1663447645,"created_at_utc_B":1663445159,"score_A":45,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Catnip is in the mint family, shouldn't be an issue.","human_ref_B":"Wash your hands","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2486.0,"score_ratio":2.25}
{"post_id":"xgvpls","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"I wiped my hands with a wipe that has mint oil. Is thing dangerous to my cat is I petted him on the head? What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"iou2xu0","c_root_id_B":"iouboac","created_at_utc_A":1663443875,"created_at_utc_B":1663447645,"score_A":4,"score_B":45,"human_ref_A":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","human_ref_B":"Catnip is in the mint family, shouldn't be an issue.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3770.0,"score_ratio":11.25}
{"post_id":"xgvpls","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"I wiped my hands with a wipe that has mint oil. Is thing dangerous to my cat is I petted him on the head? What should I do?","c_root_id_A":"iou5ymm","c_root_id_B":"iou2xu0","created_at_utc_A":1663445159,"created_at_utc_B":1663443875,"score_A":20,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Wash your hands","human_ref_B":"Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex\/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](\/message\/compose\/?to=\/r\/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1284.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"wk0zma","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"My cat was caught in a house fire. She got rescued, went to an animal ER and received oxygen - now, she's back home but hasn't come out from under the bed for over 12 hours. What do I do? Sunday night my apartment caught on fire, it all happened so fast, I had about 2 minutes to get out and one of my cats just wouldn't come out from under the bed and I just couldn't reach her. I had to leave her and yes I am feeling like the worst person in the world. The fireman did eventually bring her out, she was in pretty bad shape from the smoke and soot, but she wasn't burned at all. We put her in oxygen there and then we rushed her to an emergency vet. She stayed there for a day and a half or so, and they sent me home with some antibiotics that I'm supposed to give her every 12 hours. She's was still a bit wheezy and they said she's got discharge coming out of her nose a bit and that I'm supposed to try and keep it clean.  Well, were staying at my brother's house for a few days (at least) until I figure out where I'm gonna live and so on top of all we went through, she's pretty freaked out because of the new environment and the sound of dogs outside the door. After I brought her home yesterday afternoon, she pretty quickly went to hide under the bed. Since then I have checked on her regularly and her breathing seems fine, she does have a crusty nose that I can't really deal with from where she's at. But as far as I know, she hasn't eaten or anything since we've gotten back. She seems pretty mad at me too, but that could just be my guilt and she is one of those cats who always looks pretty mad.  So, what do I do? Do I cause her a bit of stress by making her get out from under the bed so I can give her meds and watch her more closely? Or so I let her be and keep checking on her and she'll eat\/drink when she's ready? I have bowls and food and water out and near her but I don't think she's touched them at all.  Not sure it matter, but just in case - She is a female longhair mixed breed, about 7 years old, fixed, and we live in Washington state.","c_root_id_A":"ijkrjka","c_root_id_B":"ijkq8p1","created_at_utc_A":1660051288,"created_at_utc_B":1660050697,"score_A":15,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Even without the trauma, a new location will cause stress. I second the Feliway.. just give her time to adjust but definitely keep a close eye on her.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019m so sorry about your apartment burning. I hope you and your kitties are doing better soon <3  (Not a vet, just passing along some love)  I don\u2019t think you\u2019re an asshole, though. You might feel guilty but you had to save yourself and your other kitty. She was thankfully okay!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":591.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"xfavjp","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I am putting my cat to sleep tomorrow and I'm not sure if this is the right decision to make. Species: Cat  Age: 15  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Unknown  Body weight: Unknown  History: I've had my cat, Luka for many years now, he was a stray that I brought in around 2008. He's never had any major medical procedures except being neutered. In 2019 I noticed an external growth on his side, he would often get into fights and come home with abscesses that would need drained, I would always take him to a professional for that to be done properly. In 2019 when I took him, they said it was nothing and would resolve on it's own. A few months ago, I finally took him back for another checkup, this is after it had gotten worse and started bleeding everywhere and pus started coming out. It was cancer. A tumor. They did no bloodwork or anything. I wasn't satisfied with this and my Vet Tech girlfriend convinced me to get yet another opinion. I did, and they confirmed it was cancerous. They told me he was in no pain, and I believe it, because his appetite hasn't changed much, he still has tons of energy, goes outside quite a bit, basically you wouldn't be able to tell that he was injured. He bleeds everywhere, his wound stinks. (which means it is infected) and he keeps licking the infection back into the wound. I've been tolerating the smell, the blood stains and everything for months, because I want him to live a happy life, and I have no problem doing it longer.. But I just feel like it's that time, that maybe he is in pain.. I just don't know.. I thought I'd know my cat better, but he seems so unaffected by it all...  I called the vet today and explained the situation, and they scheduled him to be put down tomorrow at 11AM Eastern Standard Time, and suggested it was likely the best course of action.   Am I making a mistake or am I doing the right thing?     Clinical signs: Visible external growth  Duration: Three years  Your general location: United States, Norfolk.  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: The vet paperwork is from a few months back and I don't know what I did with it. This is a picture from today on what the growth looks like. Warning for Graphic content: https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/jjZ90fV","c_root_id_A":"iomtte7","c_root_id_B":"ionk0ws","created_at_utc_A":1663309437,"created_at_utc_B":1663329248,"score_A":12,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Can you get another vet' opinion?","human_ref_B":"Please make him wear a cone. Is he eating food and drinking water normally? If yes then he has very good chances to fight this evil cancer. Please don\u2019t put him to sleep without fighting this evil cancer doing the following   1. Put him in cone 2. Ask for the strongest antibiotics that vet believes can help 3. Play with him, keep him happy, give him love  4. Do not let him lick   I know you have done the best till now but don\u2019t give up yet, if he naturally passes away it\u2019s god\u2019s wish. Or if he moaning in immense pain then that\u2019s different.   But the way you said that he is unaffected and all. Please do the best before taking the call to put him down","labels":0,"seconds_difference":19811.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"xfavjp","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"I am putting my cat to sleep tomorrow and I'm not sure if this is the right decision to make. Species: Cat  Age: 15  Sex\/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Unknown  Body weight: Unknown  History: I've had my cat, Luka for many years now, he was a stray that I brought in around 2008. He's never had any major medical procedures except being neutered. In 2019 I noticed an external growth on his side, he would often get into fights and come home with abscesses that would need drained, I would always take him to a professional for that to be done properly. In 2019 when I took him, they said it was nothing and would resolve on it's own. A few months ago, I finally took him back for another checkup, this is after it had gotten worse and started bleeding everywhere and pus started coming out. It was cancer. A tumor. They did no bloodwork or anything. I wasn't satisfied with this and my Vet Tech girlfriend convinced me to get yet another opinion. I did, and they confirmed it was cancerous. They told me he was in no pain, and I believe it, because his appetite hasn't changed much, he still has tons of energy, goes outside quite a bit, basically you wouldn't be able to tell that he was injured. He bleeds everywhere, his wound stinks. (which means it is infected) and he keeps licking the infection back into the wound. I've been tolerating the smell, the blood stains and everything for months, because I want him to live a happy life, and I have no problem doing it longer.. But I just feel like it's that time, that maybe he is in pain.. I just don't know.. I thought I'd know my cat better, but he seems so unaffected by it all...  I called the vet today and explained the situation, and they scheduled him to be put down tomorrow at 11AM Eastern Standard Time, and suggested it was likely the best course of action.   Am I making a mistake or am I doing the right thing?     Clinical signs: Visible external growth  Duration: Three years  Your general location: United States, Norfolk.  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: The vet paperwork is from a few months back and I don't know what I did with it. This is a picture from today on what the growth looks like. Warning for Graphic content: https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/jjZ90fV","c_root_id_A":"iop1uuy","c_root_id_B":"iopa4cv","created_at_utc_A":1663351528,"created_at_utc_B":1663354783,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It does sound like Luka is in good spirits. If he's enjoying life otherwise, euthanasia may not be necessary at all at this point. You have some really great suggestions in the comments. I hope everything gets better and that Luka will be here for a very long while! \ud83d\udc9c","human_ref_B":"Though I understand the other commenters here saying a cone would be a good choice, I honestly wonder whether this is the best for your cat. If your cat is licking, it's either because the tumor is leaking or because it's irritating. If it's leaking, it will get infected with or without your pet licking. If it's irritating, then you're just masking the symptoms of his irritation, not getting rid of them completely. I would say a cone is only an acceptable solution if there's a chance of being able to be cone free at some point.   If you want what's best for your cat, depending on the type of tumor I think an operation would be your best chance at a good quality of life. Having a weak heart doesn't mean it's not an option, it just means there's a slightly higher risk and that your vet needs to be careful in their choice of anesthetics. I would always advise getting new chest x-rays beforehand to check for metastasis before starting, this can be done without anesthetic.  If it is an aggressive type of tumor or there are already metastases, I think euthanasia would be a humane option. Even though he may not be in a lot of pain, he's showing you the growth is uncomfortable by licking it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3255.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"rw4k8m","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 19 year old cat suddenly passed away this weekend... Long haired cat 19 Spayed Breed: Manx  Weight: 4lbs History: Took her in for a general check up last year and vet said she seemed healthy for her age... they didn't do any blood tests unfortunately.. she was definitely frail and had lost weight over the last few years... we had to get her bed stairs but otherwise she got around well and would still go on cat tree and laps...   Clinical signs: on Saturday evening she started hiding under the bed and refused to come out.... she wasn't eating or drinking at all either... we grabbed her and tried to have her sit in our lap on the bed but she seemed scared n confused and was loudly meowing like she was in distress so we let her go and she immediately went under the bed again...   we kept checking on her every hour or so and she was just staring back at us and not moving much... the next morning she came out and sat in front of her water fountain and just stared at it while while wobbling... she never took a drink and then went back under the bed... then she laid completely down and started labored breathing staring with her eyes wide open... we could tell she was near death so we called the emergency vet and asked what to do... she had passed before we even got off the call..    I'm just at a loss that she died so quickly after not showing any signs before those last 36 hours.... what could have made her die so quickly? I know 19 is really old for a cat but... I always thought there'd be an obvious decline for at least a few weeks... we give her fancy feast every day and up until those last 2 days she would always be really excited for it and eat all of it... and she seemed so normal and happy and sweet up until Saturday..   I thought I'd have more time and... I just hope someone might be able to shed light on why this might have happened...was it probably cancer? Or maybe her kidneys failed? I know it ultimately doesn't change anything... im just heartbroken that the cat ive had since she was just a tiny wee kitten... is gone... ive never been anywhere without her since I was 14 and she's traveled with me everywhere ive moved...   Anyways... sorry for the long post... we're still waiting to get her ashes back and I really miss her ;(","c_root_id_A":"hra0oz9","c_root_id_B":"hra2gbo","created_at_utc_A":1641337915,"created_at_utc_B":1641338615,"score_A":14,"score_B":52,"human_ref_A":"So sorry for your loss :(","human_ref_B":"Cats are really good at hiding symptoms of illness until the very end.  That's why we do yearly checkups to make sure they are ok, to try to catch the things they aren't telling us. You were getting her her check ups, so you were doing the right thing. She had a good life.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":700.0,"score_ratio":3.7142857143}
{"post_id":"rw4k8m","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 19 year old cat suddenly passed away this weekend... Long haired cat 19 Spayed Breed: Manx  Weight: 4lbs History: Took her in for a general check up last year and vet said she seemed healthy for her age... they didn't do any blood tests unfortunately.. she was definitely frail and had lost weight over the last few years... we had to get her bed stairs but otherwise she got around well and would still go on cat tree and laps...   Clinical signs: on Saturday evening she started hiding under the bed and refused to come out.... she wasn't eating or drinking at all either... we grabbed her and tried to have her sit in our lap on the bed but she seemed scared n confused and was loudly meowing like she was in distress so we let her go and she immediately went under the bed again...   we kept checking on her every hour or so and she was just staring back at us and not moving much... the next morning she came out and sat in front of her water fountain and just stared at it while while wobbling... she never took a drink and then went back under the bed... then she laid completely down and started labored breathing staring with her eyes wide open... we could tell she was near death so we called the emergency vet and asked what to do... she had passed before we even got off the call..    I'm just at a loss that she died so quickly after not showing any signs before those last 36 hours.... what could have made her die so quickly? I know 19 is really old for a cat but... I always thought there'd be an obvious decline for at least a few weeks... we give her fancy feast every day and up until those last 2 days she would always be really excited for it and eat all of it... and she seemed so normal and happy and sweet up until Saturday..   I thought I'd have more time and... I just hope someone might be able to shed light on why this might have happened...was it probably cancer? Or maybe her kidneys failed? I know it ultimately doesn't change anything... im just heartbroken that the cat ive had since she was just a tiny wee kitten... is gone... ive never been anywhere without her since I was 14 and she's traveled with me everywhere ive moved...   Anyways... sorry for the long post... we're still waiting to get her ashes back and I really miss her ;(","c_root_id_A":"hrb6ope","c_root_id_B":"hra0oz9","created_at_utc_A":1641355633,"created_at_utc_B":1641337915,"score_A":27,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Darling, she was 19. She has a wonderful long life. Be grateful knowing you were able to love her and she loved you.","human_ref_B":"So sorry for your loss :(","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17718.0,"score_ratio":1.9285714286}
{"post_id":"rw4k8m","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 19 year old cat suddenly passed away this weekend... Long haired cat 19 Spayed Breed: Manx  Weight: 4lbs History: Took her in for a general check up last year and vet said she seemed healthy for her age... they didn't do any blood tests unfortunately.. she was definitely frail and had lost weight over the last few years... we had to get her bed stairs but otherwise she got around well and would still go on cat tree and laps...   Clinical signs: on Saturday evening she started hiding under the bed and refused to come out.... she wasn't eating or drinking at all either... we grabbed her and tried to have her sit in our lap on the bed but she seemed scared n confused and was loudly meowing like she was in distress so we let her go and she immediately went under the bed again...   we kept checking on her every hour or so and she was just staring back at us and not moving much... the next morning she came out and sat in front of her water fountain and just stared at it while while wobbling... she never took a drink and then went back under the bed... then she laid completely down and started labored breathing staring with her eyes wide open... we could tell she was near death so we called the emergency vet and asked what to do... she had passed before we even got off the call..    I'm just at a loss that she died so quickly after not showing any signs before those last 36 hours.... what could have made her die so quickly? I know 19 is really old for a cat but... I always thought there'd be an obvious decline for at least a few weeks... we give her fancy feast every day and up until those last 2 days she would always be really excited for it and eat all of it... and she seemed so normal and happy and sweet up until Saturday..   I thought I'd have more time and... I just hope someone might be able to shed light on why this might have happened...was it probably cancer? Or maybe her kidneys failed? I know it ultimately doesn't change anything... im just heartbroken that the cat ive had since she was just a tiny wee kitten... is gone... ive never been anywhere without her since I was 14 and she's traveled with me everywhere ive moved...   Anyways... sorry for the long post... we're still waiting to get her ashes back and I really miss her ;(","c_root_id_A":"hraqy9f","c_root_id_B":"hrb6ope","created_at_utc_A":1641348732,"created_at_utc_B":1641355633,"score_A":15,"score_B":27,"human_ref_A":"19 is pretty old for a cat. Natural death from age ?","human_ref_B":"Darling, she was 19. She has a wonderful long life. Be grateful knowing you were able to love her and she loved you.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6901.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"rw4k8m","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"My 19 year old cat suddenly passed away this weekend... Long haired cat 19 Spayed Breed: Manx  Weight: 4lbs History: Took her in for a general check up last year and vet said she seemed healthy for her age... they didn't do any blood tests unfortunately.. she was definitely frail and had lost weight over the last few years... we had to get her bed stairs but otherwise she got around well and would still go on cat tree and laps...   Clinical signs: on Saturday evening she started hiding under the bed and refused to come out.... she wasn't eating or drinking at all either... we grabbed her and tried to have her sit in our lap on the bed but she seemed scared n confused and was loudly meowing like she was in distress so we let her go and she immediately went under the bed again...   we kept checking on her every hour or so and she was just staring back at us and not moving much... the next morning she came out and sat in front of her water fountain and just stared at it while while wobbling... she never took a drink and then went back under the bed... then she laid completely down and started labored breathing staring with her eyes wide open... we could tell she was near death so we called the emergency vet and asked what to do... she had passed before we even got off the call..    I'm just at a loss that she died so quickly after not showing any signs before those last 36 hours.... what could have made her die so quickly? I know 19 is really old for a cat but... I always thought there'd be an obvious decline for at least a few weeks... we give her fancy feast every day and up until those last 2 days she would always be really excited for it and eat all of it... and she seemed so normal and happy and sweet up until Saturday..   I thought I'd have more time and... I just hope someone might be able to shed light on why this might have happened...was it probably cancer? Or maybe her kidneys failed? I know it ultimately doesn't change anything... im just heartbroken that the cat ive had since she was just a tiny wee kitten... is gone... ive never been anywhere without her since I was 14 and she's traveled with me everywhere ive moved...   Anyways... sorry for the long post... we're still waiting to get her ashes back and I really miss her ;(","c_root_id_A":"hra0oz9","c_root_id_B":"hraqy9f","created_at_utc_A":1641337915,"created_at_utc_B":1641348732,"score_A":14,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"So sorry for your loss :(","human_ref_B":"19 is pretty old for a cat. Natural death from age ?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10817.0,"score_ratio":1.0714285714}
{"post_id":"lvdp17","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"I had to put my cat to sleep last night. I'm not sure I made the right decision and the guilt is consuming me. I don't understand.  My Tony was perfectly fine. He was a good weight, active, eating well, playful, etc. Then, yesterday I woke up and he wouldn't eat. He kept hovering above his water dish trying to drink but he was unable to. He was walking like he was drunk and he was super lethargic and not at all alert. I rushed him to the emergency vet and they did blood work. Apparently his kidneys were failing. The vet said his kidney values, creatinine, etc were absolutely terrible and it was likely end stage.  She said she could hospitalize him and try fluids to see if he responds, but that it might give him weeks, his belly was painful when he checked it, and there was no guarantee the fluids would even work. I decided to have him euthanized and I held him during the whole thing. He went peacefully. I can't stand the guilt. I keep thinking about a few things.  1. I didn't notice any symptoms. Were there symptoms? My spouse says no, but I can't help thinking I missed something. My other cat has cancer but is doing very well. I spend a lot of time caring for her. Maybe I wasn't being attentive enough and Tony was showing me he wasn't well and I didn't notice it? The vet said cats sometimes don't show symptoms until it's severe, but I can't help thinking \"what if\". What if I had caught it sooner? 2. I feel guilty for choosing to put him down. I have plenty of money for tests, hospitalizations, medication, etc. I made the decision because the vet said he might not respond and that it might not give him much more time. Also, he was in pain and it made me worry that his time left would have been miserable. I feel awful and like I should have at least tried. My other cat with cancer is still doing well and isn't in any pain and I didn't choose to euthanize her when we found out about the cancer. I could have tried and the fact that I didn't kept me up last night.  Did I make the right decision? Would it have been possible for him to get better?","c_root_id_A":"gpbehyf","c_root_id_B":"gpd43la","created_at_utc_A":1614618075,"created_at_utc_B":1614646852,"score_A":18,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I am sorry about your cat. Unfortunately asking these questions now is unlikely to bring you any comfort. Without being able to perform a physical exam, take a full history, or evaluate response to treatment no one here will be able to guess at a diagnosis or predict prognosis. You made the best decision you could for him at the time with the information you were given because you didn't want him to be in pain.","human_ref_B":"Do NOT feel guilty, and don't you DARE let anyone make you feel guilty. You made the proper decision. Don't let others tell you different.  Here's the worst of what you did -- you gave your innocent little friend who was, according to his doctor, painful, sick, and suffering with a chance of never getting any better, a painless, peaceful, and humane end to his suffering and sickness.  You should NEVER feel angry or guilty for that. Millions of pets, feral and wild animals, and even people would give anything to have that as an end to their own never-ending suffering.  There is no purpose to beating yourself up for giving a painful sick animal the benefit of a humane death.   The situation with the other pet you have does not in any way have a bearing on your situation with the one you put to sleep. Your vet will tell you when she is likely painful. Sparing an animal from endless pain should ALWAYS be everyone's goal. Your vet will tell you when that time has come. Take that opportunity. Use your money to prevent needless suffering. Do not use it to prolong misery.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":28777.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"lvdp17","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"I had to put my cat to sleep last night. I'm not sure I made the right decision and the guilt is consuming me. I don't understand.  My Tony was perfectly fine. He was a good weight, active, eating well, playful, etc. Then, yesterday I woke up and he wouldn't eat. He kept hovering above his water dish trying to drink but he was unable to. He was walking like he was drunk and he was super lethargic and not at all alert. I rushed him to the emergency vet and they did blood work. Apparently his kidneys were failing. The vet said his kidney values, creatinine, etc were absolutely terrible and it was likely end stage.  She said she could hospitalize him and try fluids to see if he responds, but that it might give him weeks, his belly was painful when he checked it, and there was no guarantee the fluids would even work. I decided to have him euthanized and I held him during the whole thing. He went peacefully. I can't stand the guilt. I keep thinking about a few things.  1. I didn't notice any symptoms. Were there symptoms? My spouse says no, but I can't help thinking I missed something. My other cat has cancer but is doing very well. I spend a lot of time caring for her. Maybe I wasn't being attentive enough and Tony was showing me he wasn't well and I didn't notice it? The vet said cats sometimes don't show symptoms until it's severe, but I can't help thinking \"what if\". What if I had caught it sooner? 2. I feel guilty for choosing to put him down. I have plenty of money for tests, hospitalizations, medication, etc. I made the decision because the vet said he might not respond and that it might not give him much more time. Also, he was in pain and it made me worry that his time left would have been miserable. I feel awful and like I should have at least tried. My other cat with cancer is still doing well and isn't in any pain and I didn't choose to euthanize her when we found out about the cancer. I could have tried and the fact that I didn't kept me up last night.  Did I make the right decision? Would it have been possible for him to get better?","c_root_id_A":"gpccti7","c_root_id_B":"gpd43la","created_at_utc_A":1614633191,"created_at_utc_B":1614646852,"score_A":15,"score_B":33,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019m so sorry for your sudden loss. I know it\u2019s not as easy as choosing to stop feeling guilty, but please don\u2019t beat yourself up. Cats often hide their discomfort and pain. Kidney failure at end stage, even when treated, would have likely severely lowered his quality of life. Kidney & urinary issues are often reoccurring as well. Vets don\u2019t make money by discouraging treatment- so they had no motive to be that pessimistic unless it was truly that bad. You\u2019re not a bad person for not gambling thousands of dollars to keep him alive and in pain, on the small chance he could go home and be okay. You would feel just as guilty if you didn\u2019t have the money, and it still wouldn\u2019t be your fault. Be kind to yourself <3 Ps anyone willing to do cancer treatments on a cat is a dedicated owner and certified angel.","human_ref_B":"Do NOT feel guilty, and don't you DARE let anyone make you feel guilty. You made the proper decision. Don't let others tell you different.  Here's the worst of what you did -- you gave your innocent little friend who was, according to his doctor, painful, sick, and suffering with a chance of never getting any better, a painless, peaceful, and humane end to his suffering and sickness.  You should NEVER feel angry or guilty for that. Millions of pets, feral and wild animals, and even people would give anything to have that as an end to their own never-ending suffering.  There is no purpose to beating yourself up for giving a painful sick animal the benefit of a humane death.   The situation with the other pet you have does not in any way have a bearing on your situation with the one you put to sleep. Your vet will tell you when she is likely painful. Sparing an animal from endless pain should ALWAYS be everyone's goal. Your vet will tell you when that time has come. Take that opportunity. Use your money to prevent needless suffering. Do not use it to prolong misery.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13661.0,"score_ratio":2.2}
{"post_id":"lvdp17","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"I had to put my cat to sleep last night. I'm not sure I made the right decision and the guilt is consuming me. I don't understand.  My Tony was perfectly fine. He was a good weight, active, eating well, playful, etc. Then, yesterday I woke up and he wouldn't eat. He kept hovering above his water dish trying to drink but he was unable to. He was walking like he was drunk and he was super lethargic and not at all alert. I rushed him to the emergency vet and they did blood work. Apparently his kidneys were failing. The vet said his kidney values, creatinine, etc were absolutely terrible and it was likely end stage.  She said she could hospitalize him and try fluids to see if he responds, but that it might give him weeks, his belly was painful when he checked it, and there was no guarantee the fluids would even work. I decided to have him euthanized and I held him during the whole thing. He went peacefully. I can't stand the guilt. I keep thinking about a few things.  1. I didn't notice any symptoms. Were there symptoms? My spouse says no, but I can't help thinking I missed something. My other cat has cancer but is doing very well. I spend a lot of time caring for her. Maybe I wasn't being attentive enough and Tony was showing me he wasn't well and I didn't notice it? The vet said cats sometimes don't show symptoms until it's severe, but I can't help thinking \"what if\". What if I had caught it sooner? 2. I feel guilty for choosing to put him down. I have plenty of money for tests, hospitalizations, medication, etc. I made the decision because the vet said he might not respond and that it might not give him much more time. Also, he was in pain and it made me worry that his time left would have been miserable. I feel awful and like I should have at least tried. My other cat with cancer is still doing well and isn't in any pain and I didn't choose to euthanize her when we found out about the cancer. I could have tried and the fact that I didn't kept me up last night.  Did I make the right decision? Would it have been possible for him to get better?","c_root_id_A":"gpd43la","c_root_id_B":"gpctp9o","created_at_utc_A":1614646852,"created_at_utc_B":1614641336,"score_A":33,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT feel guilty, and don't you DARE let anyone make you feel guilty. You made the proper decision. Don't let others tell you different.  Here's the worst of what you did -- you gave your innocent little friend who was, according to his doctor, painful, sick, and suffering with a chance of never getting any better, a painless, peaceful, and humane end to his suffering and sickness.  You should NEVER feel angry or guilty for that. Millions of pets, feral and wild animals, and even people would give anything to have that as an end to their own never-ending suffering.  There is no purpose to beating yourself up for giving a painful sick animal the benefit of a humane death.   The situation with the other pet you have does not in any way have a bearing on your situation with the one you put to sleep. Your vet will tell you when she is likely painful. Sparing an animal from endless pain should ALWAYS be everyone's goal. Your vet will tell you when that time has come. Take that opportunity. Use your money to prevent needless suffering. Do not use it to prolong misery.","human_ref_B":"We generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective way of measuring quality of life.  If you're looking for emotional support more so than veterinary advice, you can also check out \/r\/petloss","labels":1,"seconds_difference":5516.0,"score_ratio":4.125}
{"post_id":"zhjhaw","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Dog suddenly lost control of legs and started dragging herself in circles, also has unknown mass in stomach and the vet has no idea https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/gaUmK1Z  * **Age:** 3 1\/2 years old * **Sex\/Neuter status:** Spayed * **Breed:** French Bulldog * **Body weight:** 23 lbs * **Duration:** 2 episodes * **Your general location:** Texas  Weird X-ray of an unknown thing in dog's stomach and no explanation from the vet.   My friend's dog has had two separate episodes of loss of control of her back legs. Once two years ago she came back from outside and she was walking really slowly and leaning and started sitting. She was placed on the couch and then peed on herself and was unstable and seemed inattentive. Rushed to the vet in 15-20 mins and she was back to normal after that. They took some tests and tried to determine the cause but they came up empty.   Another incident occurred today when she came back from outside and she started scooting her butt and pulling herself in circles on the ground while panting and in distress. It seemed like she couldn't use her back legs at all. 15-20 mins later they rushed her to the vet and she seemed somewhat normal, but just out of it. The vet said her stomach seemed a little bit tight and took X-rays (linked above)  and couldn't find anything. They said they didn't know what was in her stomach as shown in the x-ray and have no idea what happened.  She just got blood work done recently as well since she had a tumor (Plasmacytoma) removed from her anus a few weeks ago and everything was normal.","c_root_id_A":"izqbhud","c_root_id_B":"izok3wi","created_at_utc_A":1670722016,"created_at_utc_B":1670694232,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It sounds like your dog may need a neurologist, but I think it would be reasonable to call your vet, tell them you want to see a specialist but you\u2019re not sure what kind and get their advice. In the future try to get the episodes on video, or consider investing in a pet camera in case she\u2019s having seizures or something you are not witnessing. I think you are right to be concerned, it\u2019s hard to get a diagnosis sometimes.","human_ref_B":"Dog needs an MRI and potentially surgery ASAP.  The loss of control needs to be brought under control or that loss will be permanent. This is an emergency OP.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27784.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqy96lu","c_root_id_B":"iqy9kqf","created_at_utc_A":1664840716,"created_at_utc_B":1664840903,"score_A":20,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Have a blood panel done at the vet. Ask for particular focus on the kidney values.","human_ref_B":"Does anything change in your environment once a month? For example, do you have a cleaner come? Do you refill a scent defuser? Environmental factors--like household cleaning chemicals and scents--can be an issue for animals.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":187.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqxvm0k","c_root_id_B":"iqy9kqf","created_at_utc_A":1664834558,"created_at_utc_B":1664840903,"score_A":10,"score_B":40,"human_ref_A":"Something parasitic ? Have you been deworming","human_ref_B":"Does anything change in your environment once a month? For example, do you have a cleaner come? Do you refill a scent defuser? Environmental factors--like household cleaning chemicals and scents--can be an issue for animals.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6345.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqxvm0k","c_root_id_B":"iqy96lu","created_at_utc_A":1664834558,"created_at_utc_B":1664840716,"score_A":10,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Something parasitic ? Have you been deworming","human_ref_B":"Have a blood panel done at the vet. Ask for particular focus on the kidney values.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6158.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqxvm0k","c_root_id_B":"iqz6ykx","created_at_utc_A":1664834558,"created_at_utc_B":1664856940,"score_A":10,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Something parasitic ? Have you been deworming","human_ref_B":"Is it around the time you give her a topical flea med?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":22382.0,"score_ratio":1.3}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqyjuhd","c_root_id_B":"iqz6ykx","created_at_utc_A":1664845642,"created_at_utc_B":1664856940,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"What exactly did the vet do? What tests were performed?","human_ref_B":"Is it around the time you give her a topical flea med?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11298.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqz6ykx","c_root_id_B":"iqyni7j","created_at_utc_A":1664856940,"created_at_utc_B":1664847282,"score_A":13,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Is it around the time you give her a topical flea med?","human_ref_B":"Is your cat spayed?  I don\u2019t know much about cats or how often they get a period\/go into heat but I just saw a post somewhere where op said their dog was getting sick and it turned out the dog was just really having a hard time going through heat.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9658.0,"score_ratio":3.25}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqymkb5","c_root_id_B":"iqz6ykx","created_at_utc_A":1664846857,"created_at_utc_B":1664856940,"score_A":3,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Does the cats stool remain normal? When she vomits, is it food, vile, hairball..?","human_ref_B":"Is it around the time you give her a topical flea med?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10083.0,"score_ratio":4.3333333333}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqyni7j","c_root_id_B":"iqyjuhd","created_at_utc_A":1664847282,"created_at_utc_B":1664845642,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat spayed?  I don\u2019t know much about cats or how often they get a period\/go into heat but I just saw a post somewhere where op said their dog was getting sick and it turned out the dog was just really having a hard time going through heat.","human_ref_B":"What exactly did the vet do? What tests were performed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1640.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqymkb5","c_root_id_B":"iqyjuhd","created_at_utc_A":1664846857,"created_at_utc_B":1664845642,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Does the cats stool remain normal? When she vomits, is it food, vile, hairball..?","human_ref_B":"What exactly did the vet do? What tests were performed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1215.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"ir1kw39","c_root_id_B":"iqyjuhd","created_at_utc_A":1664905530,"created_at_utc_B":1664845642,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d take her to a diff vet, that\u2019s what I did with my little guy. 2nd vet diagnosed him with FIP","human_ref_B":"What exactly did the vet do? What tests were performed?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":59888.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"xuwrh2","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.87,"history":"Please help. Cat vomiting and not eating once a month! I've taken my cat to the vet multiple times for this but they keep telling me she's in perfect health. She's 4 years old but every month near the start or end she begins vomiting and will refuse to eat or hardly eats. This can sometimes be from 2-3 days to a week. I'm not sure what I can do because I feel like I've tried everything and it really concerns me. For reference I have tried switching her bowls, different foods, different litter, and even hairball aids and more frequent brushing due to being told that it could possibly be a hairball issue but nothing has work.","c_root_id_A":"iqyni7j","c_root_id_B":"iqymkb5","created_at_utc_A":1664847282,"created_at_utc_B":1664846857,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Is your cat spayed?  I don\u2019t know much about cats or how often they get a period\/go into heat but I just saw a post somewhere where op said their dog was getting sick and it turned out the dog was just really having a hard time going through heat.","human_ref_B":"Does the cats stool remain normal? When she vomits, is it food, vile, hairball..?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":425.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"vwy85l","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"I don\u2019t think my male cat was neutered correctly Age: 2 Species: tuxedo cat Gender: Male Weight: 2.5\/3kg  So basically my male cat was neutered around 8\/9 months old, and I noticed a month after him getting neutered, he started having these sexual fixations with my lower forearm and wrist, where we would just be casually sitting and suddenly he would meow climb on my arm or my armchair and start love biting but not letting go and then start purring and doing the little digging with his paws,  when I get him off he usually keeps biting but i tell him off and he lets go while giving a sad meow, he will stop only to eventually do it again, I thought it was due to fur jackets or similar textures but he\u2019s done this even without any jackets or tshirts on, I\u2019ve literally been woken up at 3am countless times with him raping my wrist and forearm, this has been going on since that 1 month after he was neutered, he was been recently introduced to an older female cat, initially they did not get along but are doing just fine. But I\u2019m noticing that rarely he will climb on top of her and bite down on her nape and do the same motion as if he was going to mate with her. The older cat I\u2019m talking about is around 13 years old and was spayed many years ago. I don\u2019t really get his fixation on my forearm and wrist and now recently with the older cat as well. Is this him showing affection or was there probably neglect in his procedure?  Sorry for making you read this far, I tried shortening it out as much as possible.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"ift5gyc","c_root_id_B":"iftp3l1","created_at_utc_A":1657594222,"created_at_utc_B":1657605464,"score_A":16,"score_B":18,"human_ref_A":"Even after being neutered cats may still have sexual desires and engage in sexual behaviors like masturbation. They have needs just like people","human_ref_B":"Cats usually do this as a self.soothing mechanism when something in their life isn't quite right! Usually it is a lack of stimulation or affection, especially since a new cat was added to the household, he may feel like he's getting less attention or is just anxious about the new cat. Try to give him special bonding time each day, and play with him for at least 15 mins a day if you don't let him outside. This doesn't have to do with his neuter.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11242.0,"score_ratio":1.125}
{"post_id":"vwy85l","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"I don\u2019t think my male cat was neutered correctly Age: 2 Species: tuxedo cat Gender: Male Weight: 2.5\/3kg  So basically my male cat was neutered around 8\/9 months old, and I noticed a month after him getting neutered, he started having these sexual fixations with my lower forearm and wrist, where we would just be casually sitting and suddenly he would meow climb on my arm or my armchair and start love biting but not letting go and then start purring and doing the little digging with his paws,  when I get him off he usually keeps biting but i tell him off and he lets go while giving a sad meow, he will stop only to eventually do it again, I thought it was due to fur jackets or similar textures but he\u2019s done this even without any jackets or tshirts on, I\u2019ve literally been woken up at 3am countless times with him raping my wrist and forearm, this has been going on since that 1 month after he was neutered, he was been recently introduced to an older female cat, initially they did not get along but are doing just fine. But I\u2019m noticing that rarely he will climb on top of her and bite down on her nape and do the same motion as if he was going to mate with her. The older cat I\u2019m talking about is around 13 years old and was spayed many years ago. I don\u2019t really get his fixation on my forearm and wrist and now recently with the older cat as well. Is this him showing affection or was there probably neglect in his procedure?  Sorry for making you read this far, I tried shortening it out as much as possible.  Thank you","c_root_id_A":"iftp3l1","c_root_id_B":"iftncpt","created_at_utc_A":1657605464,"created_at_utc_B":1657604262,"score_A":18,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Cats usually do this as a self.soothing mechanism when something in their life isn't quite right! Usually it is a lack of stimulation or affection, especially since a new cat was added to the household, he may feel like he's getting less attention or is just anxious about the new cat. Try to give him special bonding time each day, and play with him for at least 15 mins a day if you don't let him outside. This doesn't have to do with his neuter.","human_ref_B":"This can be normal for a lot of cats. One of the vets I work with thinks it could even be a form of self-soothing from separation anxiety!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1202.0,"score_ratio":2.5714285714}
{"post_id":"txxxg1","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat has tracheal tear after dental work My cat is 8 years old, and had surgery today to remove two molars. They tore her trachea during intubation, and said this had never happened at their clinic before. Not a huge tear but enough to be concerned.  She\u2019s home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn\u2019t laying down, isn\u2019t very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.   She\u2019s also purring louder than I\u2019ve ever heard before. The veterinarian is closed so I can\u2019t ask questions.  Is this normal after anesthesia and is there anything I should be more concerned about within the next few days regarding the tracheal tear?","c_root_id_A":"i3oyhd1","c_root_id_B":"i3p21ck","created_at_utc_A":1649286775,"created_at_utc_B":1649288389,"score_A":13,"score_B":67,"human_ref_A":"How did they determine that the trachea was torn?  What instructions were given to you when your cat was discharged?","human_ref_B":"Take your cat to an ER vet. Torn tracheas can possibly lead to air escaping into the subcutaneous space. This is more advanced monitoring.   While not a common complication, it is a possible one.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1614.0,"score_ratio":5.1538461538}
{"post_id":"txxxg1","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat has tracheal tear after dental work My cat is 8 years old, and had surgery today to remove two molars. They tore her trachea during intubation, and said this had never happened at their clinic before. Not a huge tear but enough to be concerned.  She\u2019s home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn\u2019t laying down, isn\u2019t very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.   She\u2019s also purring louder than I\u2019ve ever heard before. The veterinarian is closed so I can\u2019t ask questions.  Is this normal after anesthesia and is there anything I should be more concerned about within the next few days regarding the tracheal tear?","c_root_id_A":"i3p87sc","c_root_id_B":"i3pbefp","created_at_utc_A":1649291210,"created_at_utc_B":1649292642,"score_A":15,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"I think an overnight monitoring at an emergency hospital would be a good idea. These can progress and become fatal within 24 hours of the tear is large. You can\u2019t really tell the size if the tear on one radiograph. Have your cat monitored for 24 hours and have repeat radiographs taken to see if the air in the chest is progressing. I would not sit on it.  EDIT: I\u2019d like to add that most tears are not surgical and will heal on their own but you can\u2019t make that call this soon after surgery. You have to see if air builds up quickly and causes difficulty breathing. These are surgical if there is fast progression of air accumulation in the chest. An emergency hospital will be able to watch your pet constantly and it\u2019ll take the stress away from you watching them overnight","human_ref_B":">She's home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn't laying down, isn't very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.  I can't speak to the tracheal tear as I've fortunately never caused or encountered one, but this, at least, sounds like typical post-anesthesia stoned cat behavior.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1432.0,"score_ratio":3.0666666667}
{"post_id":"txxxg1","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat has tracheal tear after dental work My cat is 8 years old, and had surgery today to remove two molars. They tore her trachea during intubation, and said this had never happened at their clinic before. Not a huge tear but enough to be concerned.  She\u2019s home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn\u2019t laying down, isn\u2019t very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.   She\u2019s also purring louder than I\u2019ve ever heard before. The veterinarian is closed so I can\u2019t ask questions.  Is this normal after anesthesia and is there anything I should be more concerned about within the next few days regarding the tracheal tear?","c_root_id_A":"i3oyhd1","c_root_id_B":"i3pbefp","created_at_utc_A":1649286775,"created_at_utc_B":1649292642,"score_A":13,"score_B":46,"human_ref_A":"How did they determine that the trachea was torn?  What instructions were given to you when your cat was discharged?","human_ref_B":">She's home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn't laying down, isn't very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.  I can't speak to the tracheal tear as I've fortunately never caused or encountered one, but this, at least, sounds like typical post-anesthesia stoned cat behavior.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5867.0,"score_ratio":3.5384615385}
{"post_id":"txxxg1","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.99,"history":"Cat has tracheal tear after dental work My cat is 8 years old, and had surgery today to remove two molars. They tore her trachea during intubation, and said this had never happened at their clinic before. Not a huge tear but enough to be concerned.  She\u2019s home now and is just sitting and staring at nothing for hours. She isn\u2019t laying down, isn\u2019t very responsive to anything around her, and her mouth is hanging open.   She\u2019s also purring louder than I\u2019ve ever heard before. The veterinarian is closed so I can\u2019t ask questions.  Is this normal after anesthesia and is there anything I should be more concerned about within the next few days regarding the tracheal tear?","c_root_id_A":"i3p87sc","c_root_id_B":"i3oyhd1","created_at_utc_A":1649291210,"created_at_utc_B":1649286775,"score_A":15,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"I think an overnight monitoring at an emergency hospital would be a good idea. These can progress and become fatal within 24 hours of the tear is large. You can\u2019t really tell the size if the tear on one radiograph. Have your cat monitored for 24 hours and have repeat radiographs taken to see if the air in the chest is progressing. I would not sit on it.  EDIT: I\u2019d like to add that most tears are not surgical and will heal on their own but you can\u2019t make that call this soon after surgery. You have to see if air builds up quickly and causes difficulty breathing. These are surgical if there is fast progression of air accumulation in the chest. An emergency hospital will be able to watch your pet constantly and it\u2019ll take the stress away from you watching them overnight","human_ref_B":"How did they determine that the trachea was torn?  What instructions were given to you when your cat was discharged?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4435.0,"score_ratio":1.1538461538}
{"post_id":"kszrq0","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Did I put my cat down too early? My childhood cat lived at my mom's houses. He was almost 17.   My mom called and said he had stopped eating for almost 3 days and was acting very sickly\/vomiting\/dehydrated so she took him to the vet. His pancreas had acted up before and thought it might be thst again, but instead it was his kidneys shutting down. They gave him a shot under the skin for hydration and offered to keep him on IV over the weekend but no one sould be staffed to administer meds (New Years) so sending him home with meds was an option. They gave him a 25% chance of surviving a month or so best case scenario and said he was a candidate for humane euthanasia.   Mom took him home and he ate a small amount. I show up to stay with her and the cat is extremely lethargic, had lost almost half it's body weight, shedding, sunken, wobbly and unsteady gait, would only drink from a bottle cap held to his mouth. He twitched his face and paws everytime he had a drink, sometimes causing him to stumble.  He was refusing to eat again, hiding behind the toilet and extremely lethargic. He would come out and cuddle with us and enjoy brushes too. We tried forcing some liquid food by syringe but it seemed to make him feel sick. We were given probiotics in a pill form to give him and a phosphate binder to sprinkle on his food which he wouldn't eat.   I called the emergency vet for advice because we were afraid he was having trouble swallowing due to the weird twitching and stumbling, and didn't want him to choke on the pills. His stomach was loudly grumbling and growling constantly. They said sometimes giving him pills and forcing food might be doing more harm than good if he's potentially having trouble swallowing and his organs might ne failing in end stage renal failure.  I was afraid that a car ride to the vet would stress him out as well. He didn't eat for 2 days and seemed to worsen but still drank water. He began vomiting some vile liquid that stunk, his breath stunk, his paws were cold and his respiration was slow and sometimes labored.   Instead of waiting 1 more day for the primary vet handling his stuff to open, I talked to my mom about at home euthanasia since he was given a slim chance of surviving longer than a couple weeks any way, that way he doesn't have to go for a car ride (he hates them). He seemed to be experiencing symptoms of his life ending, as the vet had told us to watch out for.  He alternated being affectionate and hiding and he seemed to still have his personality. We were worried about him starving at this point and still giving him water from a bottle cap. We decided to call the at home euthanasia service.   If I had waited another day to go to his primary vet, or taken him to the ER, would it have been worth it? He seemed to me to be dying but I am having anxiety that I decided to give up too early. He was almost 17 also. I didn't want him to suffer, neither did my mom.","c_root_id_A":"gij9x93","c_root_id_B":"gij2uc0","created_at_utc_A":1610109309,"created_at_utc_B":1610102820,"score_A":9,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I'm not a vet but I think you did the right thing. If the kitty was not eating or drinking and he was having the other issues, he might have still been alive another day but probably with not a very good quality of life. You did the right thing by not letting him suffer.","human_ref_B":"Oh hon, I can't speak to what your options might have been, but I can say that there is ALWAYS something majorly wrong when a cat goes that long without eating. Cats just don't do that unless they are extremely sick, and it's always a better choice to end things humanely when there might be some slim chance than it is to let an animal suffer for a maybe.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6489.0,"score_ratio":1.8}
{"post_id":"kszrq0","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Did I put my cat down too early? My childhood cat lived at my mom's houses. He was almost 17.   My mom called and said he had stopped eating for almost 3 days and was acting very sickly\/vomiting\/dehydrated so she took him to the vet. His pancreas had acted up before and thought it might be thst again, but instead it was his kidneys shutting down. They gave him a shot under the skin for hydration and offered to keep him on IV over the weekend but no one sould be staffed to administer meds (New Years) so sending him home with meds was an option. They gave him a 25% chance of surviving a month or so best case scenario and said he was a candidate for humane euthanasia.   Mom took him home and he ate a small amount. I show up to stay with her and the cat is extremely lethargic, had lost almost half it's body weight, shedding, sunken, wobbly and unsteady gait, would only drink from a bottle cap held to his mouth. He twitched his face and paws everytime he had a drink, sometimes causing him to stumble.  He was refusing to eat again, hiding behind the toilet and extremely lethargic. He would come out and cuddle with us and enjoy brushes too. We tried forcing some liquid food by syringe but it seemed to make him feel sick. We were given probiotics in a pill form to give him and a phosphate binder to sprinkle on his food which he wouldn't eat.   I called the emergency vet for advice because we were afraid he was having trouble swallowing due to the weird twitching and stumbling, and didn't want him to choke on the pills. His stomach was loudly grumbling and growling constantly. They said sometimes giving him pills and forcing food might be doing more harm than good if he's potentially having trouble swallowing and his organs might ne failing in end stage renal failure.  I was afraid that a car ride to the vet would stress him out as well. He didn't eat for 2 days and seemed to worsen but still drank water. He began vomiting some vile liquid that stunk, his breath stunk, his paws were cold and his respiration was slow and sometimes labored.   Instead of waiting 1 more day for the primary vet handling his stuff to open, I talked to my mom about at home euthanasia since he was given a slim chance of surviving longer than a couple weeks any way, that way he doesn't have to go for a car ride (he hates them). He seemed to be experiencing symptoms of his life ending, as the vet had told us to watch out for.  He alternated being affectionate and hiding and he seemed to still have his personality. We were worried about him starving at this point and still giving him water from a bottle cap. We decided to call the at home euthanasia service.   If I had waited another day to go to his primary vet, or taken him to the ER, would it have been worth it? He seemed to me to be dying but I am having anxiety that I decided to give up too early. He was almost 17 also. I didn't want him to suffer, neither did my mom.","c_root_id_A":"gij2uc0","c_root_id_B":"gijh362","created_at_utc_A":1610102820,"created_at_utc_B":1610114201,"score_A":5,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Oh hon, I can't speak to what your options might have been, but I can say that there is ALWAYS something majorly wrong when a cat goes that long without eating. Cats just don't do that unless they are extremely sick, and it's always a better choice to end things humanely when there might be some slim chance than it is to let an animal suffer for a maybe.","human_ref_B":"From what you have described, you most certainly made the right call. There\u2019s no reason to let an animal suffer for longer than they need to...they don\u2019t understand what is happening to them like we do. 15+ years is a good run!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11381.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jbmkj","c_root_id_B":"i6jbpl7","created_at_utc_A":1651155549,"created_at_utc_B":1651155584,"score_A":91,"score_B":179,"human_ref_A":"ABSOLUTELY GET RID OF THEM. Lillies are so toxic to cats that even one bite of a leaf can kill them. Do not keep ANY plants that are toxic to cats if you don\u2019t have a 100% foolproof method of keeping the cat away from them!!","human_ref_B":"Even just a tiny bit of pollen from a lily can cause significant kidney injury in cats so best to keep them out of the house","labels":0,"seconds_difference":35.0,"score_ratio":1.967032967}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jbmkj","c_root_id_B":"i6jcj28","created_at_utc_A":1651155549,"created_at_utc_B":1651155930,"score_A":91,"score_B":118,"human_ref_A":"ABSOLUTELY GET RID OF THEM. Lillies are so toxic to cats that even one bite of a leaf can kill them. Do not keep ANY plants that are toxic to cats if you don\u2019t have a 100% foolproof method of keeping the cat away from them!!","human_ref_B":"Not a vet: is this a risk you really want to take?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":381.0,"score_ratio":1.2967032967}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jrhth","c_root_id_B":"i6k2o4q","created_at_utc_A":1651162065,"created_at_utc_B":1651166574,"score_A":42,"score_B":90,"human_ref_A":"Even if cat is not interested when you\u2019re home, they can do some stupid shit when you\u2019re not home So get rid of them.","human_ref_B":"Dandelions I don't care too much about, they have no real toxic principles associated with them   Lily's (true lilies, not peace lily or calla-lily, etc) are among the most toxic plants to cats. Every part of the plant is toxic, including the pollen. Toxicosis has been reported in cats who rubbed against the plant and then groomed pollen off their fur. I will not allow them near my house.   I have treated a lot of cats with lily ingestion. Many of them don't get sick (likely got a small enough dose to be OK, or we started aggressive therapy before they got too sick; the issue is we don't know what the toxic dose is and can almost never know how much a cat ate). The ones who DO get sick often die. Maybe not all of them, but even with intensive care, most that become anuric die of kidney failure. Dialysis can be helpful, and they seem to do better with it, but that is going to EASILY be $10000.   I am not sure what you mean by \"not much professional literature\". Here are a few papers: https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21147474\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/17708410\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22058344\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/11108459\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/12680447\/  I don't want to seem mean, but I guess I read this question like a parent saying \"I have a two year old son. How bad is it to keep loaded guns and open antifreeze scattered around the house if he shows no interest in them?\" Sure, you may be fine. Maybe your son will never touch them. But if he does, he will likely die, and no one is going to be shocked when it happens. Why take the risk?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4509.0,"score_ratio":2.1428571429}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jzrah","c_root_id_B":"i6k2o4q","created_at_utc_A":1651165404,"created_at_utc_B":1651166574,"score_A":21,"score_B":90,"human_ref_A":"Here\u2019s a paper. Don\u2019t keep lilies in households with cats. It\u2019s not worth the risk.","human_ref_B":"Dandelions I don't care too much about, they have no real toxic principles associated with them   Lily's (true lilies, not peace lily or calla-lily, etc) are among the most toxic plants to cats. Every part of the plant is toxic, including the pollen. Toxicosis has been reported in cats who rubbed against the plant and then groomed pollen off their fur. I will not allow them near my house.   I have treated a lot of cats with lily ingestion. Many of them don't get sick (likely got a small enough dose to be OK, or we started aggressive therapy before they got too sick; the issue is we don't know what the toxic dose is and can almost never know how much a cat ate). The ones who DO get sick often die. Maybe not all of them, but even with intensive care, most that become anuric die of kidney failure. Dialysis can be helpful, and they seem to do better with it, but that is going to EASILY be $10000.   I am not sure what you mean by \"not much professional literature\". Here are a few papers: https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21147474\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/17708410\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22058344\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/11108459\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/12680447\/  I don't want to seem mean, but I guess I read this question like a parent saying \"I have a two year old son. How bad is it to keep loaded guns and open antifreeze scattered around the house if he shows no interest in them?\" Sure, you may be fine. Maybe your son will never touch them. But if he does, he will likely die, and no one is going to be shocked when it happens. Why take the risk?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1170.0,"score_ratio":4.2857142857}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6k2o4q","c_root_id_B":"i6jrq1v","created_at_utc_A":1651166574,"created_at_utc_B":1651162158,"score_A":90,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Dandelions I don't care too much about, they have no real toxic principles associated with them   Lily's (true lilies, not peace lily or calla-lily, etc) are among the most toxic plants to cats. Every part of the plant is toxic, including the pollen. Toxicosis has been reported in cats who rubbed against the plant and then groomed pollen off their fur. I will not allow them near my house.   I have treated a lot of cats with lily ingestion. Many of them don't get sick (likely got a small enough dose to be OK, or we started aggressive therapy before they got too sick; the issue is we don't know what the toxic dose is and can almost never know how much a cat ate). The ones who DO get sick often die. Maybe not all of them, but even with intensive care, most that become anuric die of kidney failure. Dialysis can be helpful, and they seem to do better with it, but that is going to EASILY be $10000.   I am not sure what you mean by \"not much professional literature\". Here are a few papers: https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21147474\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/17708410\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22058344\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/11108459\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/12680447\/  I don't want to seem mean, but I guess I read this question like a parent saying \"I have a two year old son. How bad is it to keep loaded guns and open antifreeze scattered around the house if he shows no interest in them?\" Sure, you may be fine. Maybe your son will never touch them. But if he does, he will likely die, and no one is going to be shocked when it happens. Why take the risk?","human_ref_B":"Definitely keep lilies far, far away from your kitties.  Do not bring them into your home.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4416.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jzhxm","c_root_id_B":"i6k2o4q","created_at_utc_A":1651165299,"created_at_utc_B":1651166574,"score_A":15,"score_B":90,"human_ref_A":"If you absolutely must have these types of plants on your home, I\u2019d suggest finding a fake version of the plant as long as your kitty doesn\u2019t have history of eating things they shouldn\u2019t be. Agreeing with everyone else that it shouldn\u2019t be a risk you\u2019re willing to take","human_ref_B":"Dandelions I don't care too much about, they have no real toxic principles associated with them   Lily's (true lilies, not peace lily or calla-lily, etc) are among the most toxic plants to cats. Every part of the plant is toxic, including the pollen. Toxicosis has been reported in cats who rubbed against the plant and then groomed pollen off their fur. I will not allow them near my house.   I have treated a lot of cats with lily ingestion. Many of them don't get sick (likely got a small enough dose to be OK, or we started aggressive therapy before they got too sick; the issue is we don't know what the toxic dose is and can almost never know how much a cat ate). The ones who DO get sick often die. Maybe not all of them, but even with intensive care, most that become anuric die of kidney failure. Dialysis can be helpful, and they seem to do better with it, but that is going to EASILY be $10000.   I am not sure what you mean by \"not much professional literature\". Here are a few papers: https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/21147474\/ https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/17708410\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22058344\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/11108459\/  https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/12680447\/  I don't want to seem mean, but I guess I read this question like a parent saying \"I have a two year old son. How bad is it to keep loaded guns and open antifreeze scattered around the house if he shows no interest in them?\" Sure, you may be fine. Maybe your son will never touch them. But if he does, he will likely die, and no one is going to be shocked when it happens. Why take the risk?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1275.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6k90s6","c_root_id_B":"i6jrq1v","created_at_utc_A":1651169103,"created_at_utc_B":1651162158,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s like pointing a gun at your cat and asking if it\u2019s okay that you only put 80% pressure on the trigger.  Cats are cats.  She might not be interested now, but maybe she\u2019ll feel playful and take a bite tomorrow.  That\u2019s not worth the risk at all.","human_ref_B":"Definitely keep lilies far, far away from your kitties.  Do not bring them into your home.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6945.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6k90s6","c_root_id_B":"i6jzhxm","created_at_utc_A":1651169103,"created_at_utc_B":1651165299,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"That\u2019s like pointing a gun at your cat and asking if it\u2019s okay that you only put 80% pressure on the trigger.  Cats are cats.  She might not be interested now, but maybe she\u2019ll feel playful and take a bite tomorrow.  That\u2019s not worth the risk at all.","human_ref_B":"If you absolutely must have these types of plants on your home, I\u2019d suggest finding a fake version of the plant as long as your kitty doesn\u2019t have history of eating things they shouldn\u2019t be. Agreeing with everyone else that it shouldn\u2019t be a risk you\u2019re willing to take","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3804.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jrq1v","c_root_id_B":"i6jzrah","created_at_utc_A":1651162158,"created_at_utc_B":1651165404,"score_A":15,"score_B":21,"human_ref_A":"Definitely keep lilies far, far away from your kitties.  Do not bring them into your home.","human_ref_B":"Here\u2019s a paper. Don\u2019t keep lilies in households with cats. It\u2019s not worth the risk.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3246.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6jzrah","c_root_id_B":"i6jzhxm","created_at_utc_A":1651165404,"created_at_utc_B":1651165299,"score_A":21,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"Here\u2019s a paper. Don\u2019t keep lilies in households with cats. It\u2019s not worth the risk.","human_ref_B":"If you absolutely must have these types of plants on your home, I\u2019d suggest finding a fake version of the plant as long as your kitty doesn\u2019t have history of eating things they shouldn\u2019t be. Agreeing with everyone else that it shouldn\u2019t be a risk you\u2019re willing to take","labels":1,"seconds_difference":105.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6kir4l","c_root_id_B":"i6kosfu","created_at_utc_A":1651173030,"created_at_utc_B":1651175387,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Do not bring lilies home\u2026 it\u2019s not worth it","human_ref_B":"Why risk it? Even pollen on fur can be fatal. If you care more about having Lilies around than  your cat then rehome the cat. Lilies everywhere. Go crazy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2357.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6l9yw1","c_root_id_B":"i6lrv7o","created_at_utc_A":1651183964,"created_at_utc_B":1651192264,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT keep these in the house, even a small amount of pollen can kill your cats. Not worth the risk whatsoever","human_ref_B":"Buy fake lilies","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8300.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6kir4l","c_root_id_B":"i6kkvr2","created_at_utc_A":1651173030,"created_at_utc_B":1651173873,"score_A":6,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Do not bring lilies home\u2026 it\u2019s not worth it","human_ref_B":"Um... Would you keep something poisonous for humans in your house? O-O I get that lilies and dandelions are beautiful it's better to keep them outdoors if they cat stays indoors, otherwise no lilies or dandelions :(..","labels":0,"seconds_difference":843.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6l9yw1","c_root_id_B":"i6ls7po","created_at_utc_A":1651183964,"created_at_utc_B":1651192420,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT keep these in the house, even a small amount of pollen can kill your cats. Not worth the risk whatsoever","human_ref_B":"That's how you get a dead cat, yo.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8456.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"udw1dy","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.76,"history":"I have a two year old cat. How bad is it to keep lilies or dandelions if she shows no interest in them I\u2019ve read that these plants are poisonous if ingested, but haven\u2019t seen much professional literature on them. I want to understand if these plants are okay to keep in the house if kept far away from her.","c_root_id_A":"i6l9yw1","c_root_id_B":"i6m85iv","created_at_utc_A":1651183964,"created_at_utc_B":1651199362,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Do NOT keep these in the house, even a small amount of pollen can kill your cats. Not worth the risk whatsoever","human_ref_B":"Not worth it. Pets are like people and get bored. Your cat could easily get particularly bored one day and decide to take a little nibble. Especially with the lilies. There\u2019s plenty of beautiful cat safe plants so if you really want plants in the house just do your research and find the best ones you like that won\u2019t harm your kitty","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15398.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ukgdji","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.77,"history":"Do vets get incentives for prescribing Prozac? I've talked to multiple people across the country (US) and their vets are very quick to prescribe Prozac when discussing separation anxiety with owners are going back to work post-COVID. My vet asked if I wanted Prozac for my dog when I said my dog has separation anxiety when I leave even though we are practicing starting with short periods of time and then increasing.  I am more of the mindset of approaching it behaviorally first, and if that fails then medication. I was taken aback when she recommended the Prozac almost immediately.  Why are some vets prescribing Prozac so easily without even discussing behavioral training? Are there advantages to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"i7pcro3","c_root_id_B":"i7ox4fn","created_at_utc_A":1651947171,"created_at_utc_B":1651940288,"score_A":152,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"You got some great summaries here. I will try and add some summaries to the other points you mentioned.  1) No we don't get drug kickbacks. Its not really a thing in vet medicine. Generally since most drugs are designed for humans and human pharmacology makes WAY more money than veterinary, their is no incentive to push drugs on vets like drug companies do with human doctors.  2) Anti anxiety medications work well in concert with training. An anxious human often will get care in three ways. Drugs to help calm them down, therapy to build strategies to deal with stress  and positive exposure to break anxiety cycles. Although behavioral training\/therapy is great, trying to get a stressed human or pet to calm enough to accept training is not always possible. Someone yelling at you to calm down when stressed, rarely has that effect.  3) sedatives (ex trazodone) and anxiolytics (ex fluoxetine) work differently and for different reasons. Sedatives are useful in human and vet medicine for situation stress. If humans fly and get stressed or a dog has a thunderstorm and gets stressed, take trazodone before hand. Anxiolytics are useful for constant stress. An agrophobic human or constantly stressed human benefits from a daily anti stress medication and training\/therapy to help treat their condition and then wean off of meds  4) You are seeing vets giving out behavioral meds for two reasons. One is we are actually treating it these days. New training means we want to help pets with anxiety disorders like humans don't just tell ptsd suffers to man up now. We don't want your pet to suffer. Two, we are seeing it more. The pandemic has created a generation of dogs with owners at home at all times and without exposure to outside people or pets. It has made our job really hard. We are trying to help so that we can be safe and have happy pets. We don't like getting bit and do poor exams on pets trying to bite us.  Hope all that makes sense.","human_ref_B":"Prozac and can work really well concurrently with behavioral training.    Your dog is super stressed about you not being around.  We start training him to tolerate it in small doses but it's still stressful you're not around until eventually he gets used to it vs. add in drugs and now it's less stressful and positive reinforcement can work even better because those small increments ya build up are less stressful with the anxiety meds on board.    They go together like eating right and exercising.    *I have not had caffeine yet and I need it so I hope this makes sense and please someone rephrase so it does if I'm missing my own point.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6883.0,"score_ratio":2.9803921569}
{"post_id":"ukgdji","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.77,"history":"Do vets get incentives for prescribing Prozac? I've talked to multiple people across the country (US) and their vets are very quick to prescribe Prozac when discussing separation anxiety with owners are going back to work post-COVID. My vet asked if I wanted Prozac for my dog when I said my dog has separation anxiety when I leave even though we are practicing starting with short periods of time and then increasing.  I am more of the mindset of approaching it behaviorally first, and if that fails then medication. I was taken aback when she recommended the Prozac almost immediately.  Why are some vets prescribing Prozac so easily without even discussing behavioral training? Are there advantages to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"i7pybzm","c_root_id_B":"i7pqutj","created_at_utc_A":1651956954,"created_at_utc_B":1651953591,"score_A":14,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"This is such an annoying post. Let\u2019s reason this out. Prozac has been generic for literally 20 years. No one writes branded Prozac. So first and foremost what you\u2019re filling is a generic prescription that costs cents on the dollar to make. What possible incentive is a provider getting from that? Secondly you\u2019re acting as if it\u2019s legal for providers to be incentivized for prescribing any medication. It is not. If you truly believe that you need a new provider or you need to abandon any and all medicine. It\u2019s literally illegal. Providers study for nearly a decade to be able to practice; you think they\u2019re bought that cheaply? Particularly vets who enter an extremely competitive field and work their asses off in order to even be able to practice ( they compete for a spot at one of only 7 vet schools in the entire US or fly to The Caribbean and then do another year in American usually followed by fellowships and externships?) Get real.   If you have what you consider to be a \u201clazy vet\u201d find one who isn\u2019t. Or find yourself an animal behaviorist or trainer to work with your pet for whatever issue you\u2019re experiencing.","human_ref_B":"Trazodone is a sedative. It sedates them but they likely still experience the anxiety and now are just feeling out of control due to sedation (According to our boarded behaviorist at school). Prozac and other anxiolytics help the anxiety. Together they can be really awesome, but trazodone alone is not gold standard for anxiety and may cause an increase to issues.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3363.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"ukgdji","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.77,"history":"Do vets get incentives for prescribing Prozac? I've talked to multiple people across the country (US) and their vets are very quick to prescribe Prozac when discussing separation anxiety with owners are going back to work post-COVID. My vet asked if I wanted Prozac for my dog when I said my dog has separation anxiety when I leave even though we are practicing starting with short periods of time and then increasing.  I am more of the mindset of approaching it behaviorally first, and if that fails then medication. I was taken aback when she recommended the Prozac almost immediately.  Why are some vets prescribing Prozac so easily without even discussing behavioral training? Are there advantages to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"i7pyulf","c_root_id_B":"i7pqutj","created_at_utc_A":1651957188,"created_at_utc_B":1651953591,"score_A":12,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Eli Lilly isn\u2019t making much money off of Prozac anymore since it\u2019s been generic for decades so they\u2019re certainly not giving vets any kind of kickback to prescribe it.   There aren\u2019t a lot of mental health medications for dogs. Pegasus Laboratories went and paid for the testing to specifically get FDA approval for Reconcile (same ingredient as Prozac) to treat separation anxiety in dogs so it\u2019s one of the few medications with FDA approval to specifically treat separation anxiety and that\u2019s why it\u2019s commonly prescribed. Because it\u2019s chewable and only made for pets it\u2019s more expensive but that doesn\u2019t mean vets are making money off of it.   While veterinary practices do make some revenue off of medication sales, they\u2019re not necessarily making more for one medication over another and veterinarians (and human doctors) see it as highly unethical to prescribe treatment just because it makes them more money. Unless the vet you see owns the practice, they\u2019re not making anymore money at all by prescribing medication. You can always ask for a written prescription for fluoxetine (generic Prozac) to take to a human pharmacy but it\u2019s not going to be chewable like Reconcile is.","human_ref_B":"Trazodone is a sedative. It sedates them but they likely still experience the anxiety and now are just feeling out of control due to sedation (According to our boarded behaviorist at school). Prozac and other anxiolytics help the anxiety. Together they can be really awesome, but trazodone alone is not gold standard for anxiety and may cause an increase to issues.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3597.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ukgdji","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.77,"history":"Do vets get incentives for prescribing Prozac? I've talked to multiple people across the country (US) and their vets are very quick to prescribe Prozac when discussing separation anxiety with owners are going back to work post-COVID. My vet asked if I wanted Prozac for my dog when I said my dog has separation anxiety when I leave even though we are practicing starting with short periods of time and then increasing.  I am more of the mindset of approaching it behaviorally first, and if that fails then medication. I was taken aback when she recommended the Prozac almost immediately.  Why are some vets prescribing Prozac so easily without even discussing behavioral training? Are there advantages to the vet?","c_root_id_A":"i7qi5t6","c_root_id_B":"i7pqutj","created_at_utc_A":1651966442,"created_at_utc_B":1651953591,"score_A":10,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I think you're a bit too occupied on the fact that this vet offered prozac quicker than your liking. In one of the posts, you're really excited that they posted something that follows your story. But you're very skeptical to the posts that contradicts your story.   This isn't good for your puppy, since you need to be stable in order to get your puppy to stabilize. The vet aren't forcing you to use a medicine; you don't have to use them.  You have the power to choose, and wanting to go pure behavioral first is perfectly viable reasoning (I see all the time w\/ human kids). So I suggest you to analyze your mindset, your fears, and your story first. Then research through phone calls, peer-reviewed articles, etc. Reddit is NOT a credible source, this is just a starting point like Wikipedia.","human_ref_B":"Trazodone is a sedative. It sedates them but they likely still experience the anxiety and now are just feeling out of control due to sedation (According to our boarded behaviorist at school). Prozac and other anxiolytics help the anxiety. Together they can be really awesome, but trazodone alone is not gold standard for anxiety and may cause an increase to issues.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12851.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe64eva","c_root_id_B":"fe6245a","created_at_utc_A":1578881546,"created_at_utc_B":1578880067,"score_A":149,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"In my clinical and personal experience, \"mutts\" have tend to have less health problems than any \"pure\" breed.","human_ref_B":"Medium breed \u201cmutts\u201d.   Whippets are also pretty healthy if I had to generalize (but I do feel they are over-represented in radius-ulna fractures).  They seem less prone all the typical \u201clarge dog\u201d issues (hemangiosarcoma, DCM, GDV (\u201cbloat\u201d), cancer in general) and \u201csmall dog\u201d issues (dental disease, CHF, collapsing trachea, eye issues).  They also tend to have nice temperaments maintain a healthy weight! This by no means is a definitive statement and every dog is an individual!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1479.0,"score_ratio":3.5476190476}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe6plfx","c_root_id_B":"fe6clkw","created_at_utc_A":1578899510,"created_at_utc_B":1578887025,"score_A":59,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Mean chihuahuas \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"Mandatory NOT ADVICE \/ NOT A VET I\u2019ve rescued seven pugs in the last 2 years. Currently have three. It\u2019s screwed up how bad their respiratory tracks are from breeding for the squished face.  Also have a golden, 6 year old. Prone to and now diagnosed with hemangiosarcoma.  Suffered from MMM.  My mutt is the healthiest boy. Mutts are the way to go I think","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12485.0,"score_ratio":1.0350877193}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe6245a","c_root_id_B":"fe6clkw","created_at_utc_A":1578880067,"created_at_utc_B":1578887025,"score_A":42,"score_B":57,"human_ref_A":"Medium breed \u201cmutts\u201d.   Whippets are also pretty healthy if I had to generalize (but I do feel they are over-represented in radius-ulna fractures).  They seem less prone all the typical \u201clarge dog\u201d issues (hemangiosarcoma, DCM, GDV (\u201cbloat\u201d), cancer in general) and \u201csmall dog\u201d issues (dental disease, CHF, collapsing trachea, eye issues).  They also tend to have nice temperaments maintain a healthy weight! This by no means is a definitive statement and every dog is an individual!","human_ref_B":"Mandatory NOT ADVICE \/ NOT A VET I\u2019ve rescued seven pugs in the last 2 years. Currently have three. It\u2019s screwed up how bad their respiratory tracks are from breeding for the squished face.  Also have a golden, 6 year old. Prone to and now diagnosed with hemangiosarcoma.  Suffered from MMM.  My mutt is the healthiest boy. Mutts are the way to go I think","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6958.0,"score_ratio":1.3571428571}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe6plfx","c_root_id_B":"fe6245a","created_at_utc_A":1578899510,"created_at_utc_B":1578880067,"score_A":59,"score_B":42,"human_ref_A":"Mean chihuahuas \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"Medium breed \u201cmutts\u201d.   Whippets are also pretty healthy if I had to generalize (but I do feel they are over-represented in radius-ulna fractures).  They seem less prone all the typical \u201clarge dog\u201d issues (hemangiosarcoma, DCM, GDV (\u201cbloat\u201d), cancer in general) and \u201csmall dog\u201d issues (dental disease, CHF, collapsing trachea, eye issues).  They also tend to have nice temperaments maintain a healthy weight! This by no means is a definitive statement and every dog is an individual!","labels":1,"seconds_difference":19443.0,"score_ratio":1.4047619048}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe6plfx","c_root_id_B":"fe6dlhu","created_at_utc_A":1578899510,"created_at_utc_B":1578887800,"score_A":59,"score_B":32,"human_ref_A":"Mean chihuahuas \ud83d\ude02","human_ref_B":"I vote mutts! Mutts have more genetic diversity than purebreds so more resistance to diseases.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11710.0,"score_ratio":1.84375}
{"post_id":"envt3i","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Which dog breeds do you think are the healthiest? Species: none  Age: none  Sex: none  Breed: none  Body weight: none  History:none  Clinical signs: none   I know individual dogs can have individual issues, but also that goldens are prone to cancer, GSD to hip issues, bulldogs to breathing problems, ect.   In your opinion, which dog breeds have the least  health issues?","c_root_id_A":"fe6mnrg","c_root_id_B":"fe6plfx","created_at_utc_A":1578896145,"created_at_utc_B":1578899510,"score_A":21,"score_B":59,"human_ref_A":"Mutts can be healthier as well as dogs that are working breeds\/sporting breeds.","human_ref_B":"Mean chihuahuas \ud83d\ude02","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3365.0,"score_ratio":2.8095238095}
{"post_id":"b79x2o","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat's fever won't go down after spaying. Vet suspects an infection but cat has bad history with anesthesia. How risky is putting her under anesthesia now? My cat (3 years old) was spayed last Saturday. Since Tuesday, she's had fever. There are no blood culture tests available where I live so we can't pinpoint the source of infection. Vet thinks it could be because her stitches from inside are infected. Her fever won't go down even though she's being given antibiotics on 8 hourly basis.   When she got spayed, her temperature dropped critically. For hours, the vet used hot water bottles and stuff to make her temperature go normal.   He is unwilling to put her under anesthesia again because of the risks until her fever subsides. But her fever is not subsiding. He says if you can accept the risk that she might not wake up if I sedate her again, I can do that and clean her stitches from the inside and restitch her up.  Is the risk worth taking? I would die if anything happened to her but I don't know if prolonged fever like this is doing her any better. She's admitted in the hospital but she only sleeps all day. Drinks water sometimes but doesn't eat. She's peeing normally though. Please help.","c_root_id_A":"ejq5lop","c_root_id_B":"ejq9sop","created_at_utc_A":1553944445,"created_at_utc_B":1553950017,"score_A":7,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"How does her labwork look?","human_ref_B":"What is her temperature?  What sedatives and anesthetics were being used?  What antibiotics are being used?  If your vet can\u2019t get a CBC, do they have a microscope so they can look at a blood smear?","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5572.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"b79x2o","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"My cat's fever won't go down after spaying. Vet suspects an infection but cat has bad history with anesthesia. How risky is putting her under anesthesia now? My cat (3 years old) was spayed last Saturday. Since Tuesday, she's had fever. There are no blood culture tests available where I live so we can't pinpoint the source of infection. Vet thinks it could be because her stitches from inside are infected. Her fever won't go down even though she's being given antibiotics on 8 hourly basis.   When she got spayed, her temperature dropped critically. For hours, the vet used hot water bottles and stuff to make her temperature go normal.   He is unwilling to put her under anesthesia again because of the risks until her fever subsides. But her fever is not subsiding. He says if you can accept the risk that she might not wake up if I sedate her again, I can do that and clean her stitches from the inside and restitch her up.  Is the risk worth taking? I would die if anything happened to her but I don't know if prolonged fever like this is doing her any better. She's admitted in the hospital but she only sleeps all day. Drinks water sometimes but doesn't eat. She's peeing normally though. Please help.","c_root_id_A":"ejq9sop","c_root_id_B":"ejq90um","created_at_utc_A":1553950017,"created_at_utc_B":1553949094,"score_A":12,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"What is her temperature?  What sedatives and anesthetics were being used?  What antibiotics are being used?  If your vet can\u2019t get a CBC, do they have a microscope so they can look at a blood smear?","human_ref_B":"Where are you located? You might need to see a specialist.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":923.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"ep0xm3","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Old dog (14 years old) walking in circles around table. Took a while to snap her out of it. I'm a little worried about a dog that I know. I found her circling a table last night in a daze. It took me a while calling out to her before she snapped out of it. Her mouth was open and she was panting.  In the past she has had a stroke which has led to a head tilt. This has caused issues with one of her ears being blocked quite often but she has been receiving medicine to treat it.  In terms of stress factor, perhaps due to her early history (unknown: rescue dog), she stresses out when left alone in the house. This has been a case of urinating on the floor lately.  Just wondering whether all of this warrants her possibly seeing the vet again. I don't know how common it is for senior dogs to walk in circles. Advice on the internet seem to suggest that anxiety can lead to this, also something to do with the middle ear which may be related to her past.  &#x200B;  &#x200B;  Would really appreciate some opinions on this if not just to reassure myself that this can happen sometimes and it's not due to something much much more serious.","c_root_id_A":"fegjk17","c_root_id_B":"fegjgmd","created_at_utc_A":1579094721,"created_at_utc_B":1579094641,"score_A":26,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"If this is a common occurrence in this dog as it\u2019s getting older-  it\u2019s not unwarranted to talk to a vet about creating the best possible environment to keep the dog safe and comfortable as it gets older.","human_ref_B":"Definitely worth a trip to the vet to have her assessed. Ask for a geriatric blood pannel also.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":80.0,"score_ratio":1.7333333333}
{"post_id":"4emxnl","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"The kitten I am pet-sitting was diagnosed with acute renal failure - owners unreachable - should I go back to their apartment and look for anything? **Species**: Feline  **Age**: 6 m\/o  **Sex\/Neuter status**: Male \/ Neutered  **Breed**: DSH  **Body weight**: 3.2kg  **History**:  I was hired through a pet-sitting website to care for a kitten (Finn) while the owners are on vacation in Southeast Asia.  I was to come every other day from the 1st to the 14th, with a gap of a few days in the middle due to a houseguest that would take over caring for Finn.  Sounds messy that way, so I'll tell you the exact days I was hired to drop in on him: the 1st, 3rd, and 5th (which went without issue, everything was fine).  The houseguest was there from the 6th to the 10th.  My last two days were to be the 12th and the 14th.  **The owners are completely unreachable by phone and have only limited internet access**.   Finn is normally a very rambunctious little kitten and had been alone since Sunday, so when I came in last night it was *very* odd that he wasn't sitting by the door waiting to pounce on me the second I walked in (which is his usual behavior).  I set my things down and called for him, at that point I heard him meowing faintly from the bathroom area.  There were three piles of vomit in varying states of dryness in the hall on the way to the bathroom, where I found Finn lying prone between the toilet and the wall.  There were three piles of what appeared to be bile on the bathroom floor as well.  Food appeared to have been untouched and there was only one spot of urine in the litter box when I lifted the lid to check.  I was obviously immediately concerned and picked Finn up and carried him to the couch, where I sat with him for a moment and texted one of the veterinarians I work with (I work at a vet hospital) to see if I could talk to her about the cat.  Although he was purring I could tell something was definitely wrong with him, but as he wasn't displaying any symptoms of pain or distress I was a bit confused.  That is, until I set him on the ground to see if he would walk and he immediately dropped to the floor, unable to bear weight on his hind end.  At that point I started to panic, and after speaking to the emergency help line of the company I was contracted through I loaded Finn into his carrier, put him in my car, and drove him to the best hospital I knew of that was nearby.  To get to the point, when the vet finally came to speak to me after examining Finn and running preliminary tests she told me that his blood work indicated that he was in severe kidney distress, and for a six month old indoor cat the most likely cause was acute intoxication of some sort.  They ran a basic panel (she didn't tell me what for, specifically) that ruled out drug intoxication, but she asked me if there was any way he could have ingested a lily plant or possibly ethylene glycol, and the answer is \"No\"... There's definitely not any antifreeze in their small apartment, no houseplants in the area Finn is confined to, and there was no evidence of him getting into any containers or bottles.  I brought Finn to the ER at 9pm MST, and last spoke with the vet at midnight.  I called at 8am and was told the doctors were doing rounds and someone would call when they had more info.  It's almost five hours later and I'm getting very antsy and aggravated.  I know how annoying it is when clients continuously call about their pet after being told to sit tight, so I will refrain from doing that for a while.  Should I go back to their apartment and look for anything?  Maybe in the garbage or under the sink?  What on earth could cause acute renal failure in an indoor kitten?  Any ideas?  I just need someone to talk to, I feel very upset about this entire situation... All I keep thinking is that whoever they had staying over for that few days did something either on purpose or by accident, because he's clearly been ill since that person left.  I highly doubt they would have just left him in that condition if he had been acting like that while they were there, so maybe they dropped something toxic and he ate it or they had antifreeze on their shoes or something... or they poisoned him.  I can't imagine the latter being the case because this couple was young and very nice, they live in a very nice building and probably have nice friends...  What should I do, just wait for the hospital to call me   **Clinical signs**:  Vomiting, lethargy, weakness, anuria, anorexia, general tremor, head-bobbing, and muscle fasciculations   **Duration**:  At the *very* least 18 hours, but up to possibly 48+ hours  **Your general location**:  Denver, Colorado","c_root_id_A":"d21puua","c_root_id_B":"d21k4ls","created_at_utc_A":1460582615,"created_at_utc_B":1460575559,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"> What on earth could cause acute renal failure in an indoor kitten?  A lot of stuff, and don't forget that it may not be obvious (for instance, chewing through something non-edible may have exposed him to a heavy metal or cleaning product).  Like \/u\/Neryian said, sift through the house. Tons of prescription drugs cause acute renal failure (so if you find a chewed bottle anywhere, you've likely got your culprit), but also   * heavy metals (lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium),  * pesticides,  * rodenticides,  * anti freeze was already mentioned,  * tons of plants * common household cleaning products like bleach, carpet shampoo, essential oils...  Hopefully it will be easy to spot whatever product or container kitty got into! Good luck, keep us posted.","human_ref_B":"Poor little guy. You mentioned he had food but did he have access to water? Dehydration can cause issues very quickly in cats. Are there any cut flowers that may have had water with chemicals accessible or plants that were watered and would he have had access to the run off?  Do you have any way of reaching the houseguest?  Any chance that the toilets have any fresheners or chemicals in them that he may have access to because he was desperately thirsty?  I'm not of that so I can't offer much beyond a couple of other things for you to look for.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7056.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"4emxnl","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"The kitten I am pet-sitting was diagnosed with acute renal failure - owners unreachable - should I go back to their apartment and look for anything? **Species**: Feline  **Age**: 6 m\/o  **Sex\/Neuter status**: Male \/ Neutered  **Breed**: DSH  **Body weight**: 3.2kg  **History**:  I was hired through a pet-sitting website to care for a kitten (Finn) while the owners are on vacation in Southeast Asia.  I was to come every other day from the 1st to the 14th, with a gap of a few days in the middle due to a houseguest that would take over caring for Finn.  Sounds messy that way, so I'll tell you the exact days I was hired to drop in on him: the 1st, 3rd, and 5th (which went without issue, everything was fine).  The houseguest was there from the 6th to the 10th.  My last two days were to be the 12th and the 14th.  **The owners are completely unreachable by phone and have only limited internet access**.   Finn is normally a very rambunctious little kitten and had been alone since Sunday, so when I came in last night it was *very* odd that he wasn't sitting by the door waiting to pounce on me the second I walked in (which is his usual behavior).  I set my things down and called for him, at that point I heard him meowing faintly from the bathroom area.  There were three piles of vomit in varying states of dryness in the hall on the way to the bathroom, where I found Finn lying prone between the toilet and the wall.  There were three piles of what appeared to be bile on the bathroom floor as well.  Food appeared to have been untouched and there was only one spot of urine in the litter box when I lifted the lid to check.  I was obviously immediately concerned and picked Finn up and carried him to the couch, where I sat with him for a moment and texted one of the veterinarians I work with (I work at a vet hospital) to see if I could talk to her about the cat.  Although he was purring I could tell something was definitely wrong with him, but as he wasn't displaying any symptoms of pain or distress I was a bit confused.  That is, until I set him on the ground to see if he would walk and he immediately dropped to the floor, unable to bear weight on his hind end.  At that point I started to panic, and after speaking to the emergency help line of the company I was contracted through I loaded Finn into his carrier, put him in my car, and drove him to the best hospital I knew of that was nearby.  To get to the point, when the vet finally came to speak to me after examining Finn and running preliminary tests she told me that his blood work indicated that he was in severe kidney distress, and for a six month old indoor cat the most likely cause was acute intoxication of some sort.  They ran a basic panel (she didn't tell me what for, specifically) that ruled out drug intoxication, but she asked me if there was any way he could have ingested a lily plant or possibly ethylene glycol, and the answer is \"No\"... There's definitely not any antifreeze in their small apartment, no houseplants in the area Finn is confined to, and there was no evidence of him getting into any containers or bottles.  I brought Finn to the ER at 9pm MST, and last spoke with the vet at midnight.  I called at 8am and was told the doctors were doing rounds and someone would call when they had more info.  It's almost five hours later and I'm getting very antsy and aggravated.  I know how annoying it is when clients continuously call about their pet after being told to sit tight, so I will refrain from doing that for a while.  Should I go back to their apartment and look for anything?  Maybe in the garbage or under the sink?  What on earth could cause acute renal failure in an indoor kitten?  Any ideas?  I just need someone to talk to, I feel very upset about this entire situation... All I keep thinking is that whoever they had staying over for that few days did something either on purpose or by accident, because he's clearly been ill since that person left.  I highly doubt they would have just left him in that condition if he had been acting like that while they were there, so maybe they dropped something toxic and he ate it or they had antifreeze on their shoes or something... or they poisoned him.  I can't imagine the latter being the case because this couple was young and very nice, they live in a very nice building and probably have nice friends...  What should I do, just wait for the hospital to call me   **Clinical signs**:  Vomiting, lethargy, weakness, anuria, anorexia, general tremor, head-bobbing, and muscle fasciculations   **Duration**:  At the *very* least 18 hours, but up to possibly 48+ hours  **Your general location**:  Denver, Colorado","c_root_id_A":"d21k4ls","c_root_id_B":"d21u005","created_at_utc_A":1460575559,"created_at_utc_B":1460588606,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Poor little guy. You mentioned he had food but did he have access to water? Dehydration can cause issues very quickly in cats. Are there any cut flowers that may have had water with chemicals accessible or plants that were watered and would he have had access to the run off?  Do you have any way of reaching the houseguest?  Any chance that the toilets have any fresheners or chemicals in them that he may have access to because he was desperately thirsty?  I'm not of that so I can't offer much beyond a couple of other things for you to look for.","human_ref_B":"Everyone here has done a great job with advice. I just have one thing I want to add.   Young couple? How young? Do they smoke?   My first thought is illegal drug ingestion. They could be into coke or heroin or even just nicotine is toxic (is chew popular in your area?). This is a possibility. He may need a drug test.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":13047.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"4emxnl","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"The kitten I am pet-sitting was diagnosed with acute renal failure - owners unreachable - should I go back to their apartment and look for anything? **Species**: Feline  **Age**: 6 m\/o  **Sex\/Neuter status**: Male \/ Neutered  **Breed**: DSH  **Body weight**: 3.2kg  **History**:  I was hired through a pet-sitting website to care for a kitten (Finn) while the owners are on vacation in Southeast Asia.  I was to come every other day from the 1st to the 14th, with a gap of a few days in the middle due to a houseguest that would take over caring for Finn.  Sounds messy that way, so I'll tell you the exact days I was hired to drop in on him: the 1st, 3rd, and 5th (which went without issue, everything was fine).  The houseguest was there from the 6th to the 10th.  My last two days were to be the 12th and the 14th.  **The owners are completely unreachable by phone and have only limited internet access**.   Finn is normally a very rambunctious little kitten and had been alone since Sunday, so when I came in last night it was *very* odd that he wasn't sitting by the door waiting to pounce on me the second I walked in (which is his usual behavior).  I set my things down and called for him, at that point I heard him meowing faintly from the bathroom area.  There were three piles of vomit in varying states of dryness in the hall on the way to the bathroom, where I found Finn lying prone between the toilet and the wall.  There were three piles of what appeared to be bile on the bathroom floor as well.  Food appeared to have been untouched and there was only one spot of urine in the litter box when I lifted the lid to check.  I was obviously immediately concerned and picked Finn up and carried him to the couch, where I sat with him for a moment and texted one of the veterinarians I work with (I work at a vet hospital) to see if I could talk to her about the cat.  Although he was purring I could tell something was definitely wrong with him, but as he wasn't displaying any symptoms of pain or distress I was a bit confused.  That is, until I set him on the ground to see if he would walk and he immediately dropped to the floor, unable to bear weight on his hind end.  At that point I started to panic, and after speaking to the emergency help line of the company I was contracted through I loaded Finn into his carrier, put him in my car, and drove him to the best hospital I knew of that was nearby.  To get to the point, when the vet finally came to speak to me after examining Finn and running preliminary tests she told me that his blood work indicated that he was in severe kidney distress, and for a six month old indoor cat the most likely cause was acute intoxication of some sort.  They ran a basic panel (she didn't tell me what for, specifically) that ruled out drug intoxication, but she asked me if there was any way he could have ingested a lily plant or possibly ethylene glycol, and the answer is \"No\"... There's definitely not any antifreeze in their small apartment, no houseplants in the area Finn is confined to, and there was no evidence of him getting into any containers or bottles.  I brought Finn to the ER at 9pm MST, and last spoke with the vet at midnight.  I called at 8am and was told the doctors were doing rounds and someone would call when they had more info.  It's almost five hours later and I'm getting very antsy and aggravated.  I know how annoying it is when clients continuously call about their pet after being told to sit tight, so I will refrain from doing that for a while.  Should I go back to their apartment and look for anything?  Maybe in the garbage or under the sink?  What on earth could cause acute renal failure in an indoor kitten?  Any ideas?  I just need someone to talk to, I feel very upset about this entire situation... All I keep thinking is that whoever they had staying over for that few days did something either on purpose or by accident, because he's clearly been ill since that person left.  I highly doubt they would have just left him in that condition if he had been acting like that while they were there, so maybe they dropped something toxic and he ate it or they had antifreeze on their shoes or something... or they poisoned him.  I can't imagine the latter being the case because this couple was young and very nice, they live in a very nice building and probably have nice friends...  What should I do, just wait for the hospital to call me   **Clinical signs**:  Vomiting, lethargy, weakness, anuria, anorexia, general tremor, head-bobbing, and muscle fasciculations   **Duration**:  At the *very* least 18 hours, but up to possibly 48+ hours  **Your general location**:  Denver, Colorado","c_root_id_A":"d21z5ho","c_root_id_B":"d21k4ls","created_at_utc_A":1460596069,"created_at_utc_B":1460575559,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but is the house guest contactable? Perhaps they bought something in with them that he's reacting to and took it with them? If they aren't animal people they may not have known any better...","human_ref_B":"Poor little guy. You mentioned he had food but did he have access to water? Dehydration can cause issues very quickly in cats. Are there any cut flowers that may have had water with chemicals accessible or plants that were watered and would he have had access to the run off?  Do you have any way of reaching the houseguest?  Any chance that the toilets have any fresheners or chemicals in them that he may have access to because he was desperately thirsty?  I'm not of that so I can't offer much beyond a couple of other things for you to look for.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":20510.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"w67n5b","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vet clinics prescribing toxic substances for kittens, confirm about said substances Hello everyone, I need your help.  My mother went to a vet clinic. How official this vet clinics is, I have no idea. However, so far, my mom came back with substances that I found to be toxic for cats, and especially kittens.  The kittens are outside, so they are exposed to flees and things of that nature.  1. Permethrin (2%) powder \u2014 from my 'research', 0.1% is safe for cats  2. Neostomosan (5mL \u2014 transmetrin 50mg\/L, tetrametrine 5mg\/L) \u2014 the vet recommended do mix the 5mL of Neostomosan with 1L of water  3. Soltrik 30 mL syrup (100mg\/5mL) \u2014 is made up of mebendazole (according to this website it is not approved to be used on cats)  I'm in a tough situation and would appreciate your opinion and observations based on my description.","c_root_id_A":"ihc6bzr","c_root_id_B":"ihch5n2","created_at_utc_A":1658593281,"created_at_utc_B":1658597894,"score_A":14,"score_B":44,"human_ref_A":"Not a vet, but when I had a cat they were given \"toxic\" medications from the vet. When I called about it, they were argumentative, told me to stop using Google and said my cat would be okay if given the medication. This was about 10 years ago, my cat was fine. He passed away long after that, he lived a full life. I always wondered if I was misunderstanding something so I'm commenting for two reasons, I want to follow this post and to let you know that you're not alone in this. I don't think our vets have ill intentions or aren't aware; I wonder if there is some misunderstanding about what \"approved for cats\" means? Kind of like \"off label\" usage in humans is how I imagine but I am curious to see what vets say.","human_ref_B":"What country are you in? I'm not familiar with the second two, but certainly permethrin is something that wouldn't usually be given to cats as it's known to cause neurological issues. It's commonly used safely in dogs.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4613.0,"score_ratio":3.1428571429}
{"post_id":"w67n5b","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vet clinics prescribing toxic substances for kittens, confirm about said substances Hello everyone, I need your help.  My mother went to a vet clinic. How official this vet clinics is, I have no idea. However, so far, my mom came back with substances that I found to be toxic for cats, and especially kittens.  The kittens are outside, so they are exposed to flees and things of that nature.  1. Permethrin (2%) powder \u2014 from my 'research', 0.1% is safe for cats  2. Neostomosan (5mL \u2014 transmetrin 50mg\/L, tetrametrine 5mg\/L) \u2014 the vet recommended do mix the 5mL of Neostomosan with 1L of water  3. Soltrik 30 mL syrup (100mg\/5mL) \u2014 is made up of mebendazole (according to this website it is not approved to be used on cats)  I'm in a tough situation and would appreciate your opinion and observations based on my description.","c_root_id_A":"ihdmkzm","c_root_id_B":"ihe2hsc","created_at_utc_A":1658616013,"created_at_utc_B":1658623571,"score_A":7,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"I agree with badgerhoneyy about permethrin.  And I\u2019m not familiar with the other two.  A note on the third one not approved does not mean that it is toxic, it means that it has not gone through the required studies on cats.  But again I\u2019m not familiar with it so it may or may not be safe.","human_ref_B":"Tho pyrethrins\/permethrins are toxic to cats, in eastern Europe its approved as powder only and in neostomosan,the vial, for quick bathing (not spraying!) to kill of fleas in the dosage the vet recommended. Membendazole can be used in cats for toxocara,whip worms and taenias\/dipylidium (and others similar nematodes and cestodes), but it's not that common. I will give you an example of a medicine that is used all the time on cats tho its not indicated - enrofloxacine.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7558.0,"score_ratio":1.4285714286}
{"post_id":"w67n5b","domain":"askvet_validation","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Vet clinics prescribing toxic substances for kittens, confirm about said substances Hello everyone, I need your help.  My mother went to a vet clinic. How official this vet clinics is, I have no idea. However, so far, my mom came back with substances that I found to be toxic for cats, and especially kittens.  The kittens are outside, so they are exposed to flees and things of that nature.  1. Permethrin (2%) powder \u2014 from my 'research', 0.1% is safe for cats  2. Neostomosan (5mL \u2014 transmetrin 50mg\/L, tetrametrine 5mg\/L) \u2014 the vet recommended do mix the 5mL of Neostomosan with 1L of water  3. Soltrik 30 mL syrup (100mg\/5mL) \u2014 is made up of mebendazole (according to this website it is not approved to be used on cats)  I'm in a tough situation and would appreciate your opinion and observations based on my description.","c_root_id_A":"ihdpwlt","c_root_id_B":"ihe2hsc","created_at_utc_A":1658617545,"created_at_utc_B":1658623571,"score_A":6,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"For #1, I am not sure what use it was intended for. It can be used in the environment, but the cats would need to be removed. You may want to contact the vet if they didn't explain.  For #2, this is a supplier with information on it. I could not find the actual product insert.  For #3, I am not sure the credibility of that source. This says it is used. I could not find the brand name in English that would open for me.","human_ref_B":"Tho pyrethrins\/permethrins are toxic to cats, in eastern Europe its approved as powder only and in neostomosan,the vial, for quick bathing (not spraying!) to kill of fleas in the dosage the vet recommended. Membendazole can be used in cats for toxocara,whip worms and taenias\/dipylidium (and others similar nematodes and cestodes), but it's not that common. I will give you an example of a medicine that is used all the time on cats tho its not indicated - enrofloxacine.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6026.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}