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library_name: transformers
license: llama3
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# Llama-3-8B-Instruct-abliterated-v3 Model Card
[My Jupyter "cookbook" to replicate the methodology can be found here, refined library coming soon](https://huggingface.co/failspy/llama-3-70B-Instruct-abliterated/blob/main/ortho_cookbook.ipynb)
This is [meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct](https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct) with orthogonalized bfloat16 safetensor weights, generated with a refined methodology based on that which was described in the preview paper/blog post: '[Refusal in LLMs is mediated by a single direction](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jGuXSZgv6qfdhMCuJ/refusal-in-llms-is-mediated-by-a-single-direction)' which I encourage you to read to understand more.
## Hang on, "abliteration"? Orthogonalization? Ablation? What is this?
TL;DR: This model has had certain weights manipulated to "inhibit" the model's ability to express refusal. It is not in anyway _guaranteed_ that it won't refuse you, understand your request, it may still lecture you about ethics/safety, etc. It is tuned in all other respects the same as the original 70B instruct model was, just with the strongest refusal directions orthogonalized out.
**TL;TL;DR;DR: It's uncensored in the purest form I can manage -- no new or changed behaviour in any other respect from the original model.**
As far as "abliteration": it's just a fun play-on-words using the original "ablation" term used in the original paper to refer to removing features, which I made up particularly to differentiate the model from "uncensored" fine-tunes.
Ablate + obliterated = Abliterated
Anyways, orthogonalization/ablation are both aspects to refer to the same thing here, the technique in which the refusal feature was "ablated" from the model was via orthogonalization.
## A little more on the methodology, and why this is interesting
To me, ablation (or applying the methodology for the inverse, "augmentation") seems to be good for inducing/removing very specific features that you'd have to spend way too many tokens on encouraging or discouraging in your system prompt.
Instead, you just apply your system prompt in the ablation script against a blank system prompt on the same dataset and orthogonalize for the desired behaviour in the final model weights.
> Why this over fine-tuning?
Ablation is much more surgical in nature whilst also being effectively executed with a _lot_ less data than fine-tuning, which I think is its main advantage.
As well, and its most valuable aspect is it keeps as much of the original model's knowledge and training intact, whilst removing its tendency to behave in one very specific undesireable manner. (In this case, refusing user requests.)
Fine tuning is still exceptionally useful and the go-to for broad behaviour changes; however, you may be able to get close to your desired behaviour with very few samples using the ablation/augmentation techniques.
It may also be a useful step to add to your model refinement: orthogonalize -> fine-tune or vice-versa.
I haven't really gotten around to exploring this model stacked with fine-tuning, I encourage others to give it a shot if they've got the capacity.
> Okay, fine, but why V3? There's no V2 70B?
Well, I released a V2 a while back for 8B under Cognitive Computations.
It ended up being not worth it to try V2 with 70B, I wanted to refine the model before wasting compute cycles on what might not even be a better model.
I am however quite pleased about this latest methodology, it seems to have induced fewer hallucinations.
So to show that it's a new fancy methodology from even that of the 8B V2, I decided to do a Microsoft and double up on my version jump because it's *such* an advancement (or so the excuse went, when in actuality it was because too many legacy but actively used Microsoft libraries checked for 'Windows 9' in the OS name to detect Windows 95/98 as one.)
## Quirkiness awareness notice
This model may come with interesting quirks, with the methodology being so new. I encourage you to play with the model, and post any quirks you notice in the community tab, as that'll help us further understand what this orthogonalization has in the way of side effects.
If you manage to develop further improvements, please share! This is really the most basic way to use ablation, but there are other possibilities that I believe are as-yet unexplored.
Additionally, feel free to reach out in any way about this. I'm on the Cognitive Computations Discord, I'm watching the Community tab, reach out! I'd love to see this methodology used in other ways, and so would gladly support whoever whenever I can.
## GGUF quants
Please feel free to quantize or convert to other backends and reupload!
generally speaking, you want to pick the model in size that in GBs fits closest to your max RAM/VRAM (without getting too close; you'll still need room for context!)
Uploaded quants:
fp16 - good for converting to other platforms or getting the quantization you actually want, not recommended but obviously highest quality
q8_0
q6_0 - this will probably be the best balance in terms of quality/performance
q4
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