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#PonyXL Notes
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##Get PonyXL here
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https://civitai.com/models/257749?modelVersionId=290640
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https://civitai.com/models/312010/4th-tail-lora-extract
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##Reverse Engineered Hashed Tokens
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##List of Ponyxl LoRAs from /h/
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NEW NOTE 1/24/2024: I've noticed that some LoRA bakers are using different negatives when testing their LoRAs, which can lead to discrepancies when using them. I've mostly noticed that some LoRAs have a significantly reduced effect if you don't have source_pony or some combination of the source_* tags other than source anime in the negatives. This is unfortunate but a byproduct of not having a standardized process for creating the LoRAs. There's another section down below that has more info about similar issues with PonyXL that's worth reading.
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https://files.catbox.moe/kbaz4k.safetensors trogfor
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https://files.catbox.moe/4b97sc.safetensors nephlite
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https://files.catbox.moe/swjqw4.safetensors yd
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https://files.catbox.moe/ojbvr4.safetensors afrobull
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https://files.catbox.moe/rqqk5m.safetensors akihiko_yoshida
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https://files.catbox.moe/cuzgnf.safetensors aoi_nagia just using stuff from Elf Mori
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https://files.catbox.moe/dkjzm3.safetensors gattles
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https://files.catbox.moe/6nnfzi.safetensors norza
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https://files.catbox.moe/4z5ngk.safetensors ter
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https://litter.catbox.moe/cburag.safetensors juno really only trained on paizuri since that's pretty much all the artist draws, has activation trigger junopai, 1girl, solo focus, 1boy, penis, paizuri, large breasts will get the typical image layout
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https://files.catbox.moe/5oa88d.safetensors shadman
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https://files.catbox.moe/tccjiu.safetensors kylin
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https://files.catbox.moe/7sgo6g.safetensors uno_makoto exmaple gen: https://files.catbox.moe/yt0ip7.png
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**These are from the megas below, unmodified, if you want good example gens you can check in their respective megas.**
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https://files.catbox.moe/9qqq1s.safetensors suga_hideo
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https://mega.nz/folder/1yRSXQCR#Ziu9Q9Is5BCTYn53tnionw akatsuki_giken, alkemanubism, annin, aoin, chabo_fuketsudan, collagen, go_robots, ishida_umi, kafun, kaomin, kenya_suzuki, kink_(tortoiseshell), lucient, m_k, marui, miche, nezumi, nnf, pantsu_ruipper, RA, shizuoka, simzarts, testsuwan_woopie
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https://mega.nz/folder/NegX3DDL#NX3YguN8GSrEbOXuN918BA inhoso
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https://mega.nz/folder/fdoG2QDQ#6ZS_K55fY3g4NottW2NJng thanuki
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###Characters
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https://files.catbox.moe/1wdl00.safetensors character_momoka helps to prompt features like hair, clothes
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https://files.catbox.moe/0escz4.safetensors character_sindel activation trigger is sindel, helps to have multicolored_hair in the prompt to get the black streak in her hair to show up
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https://files.catbox.moe/pagyj3.safetensors character_agnes_tachyon activation trigger is agnes_tachyon_\(umamusume\)
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https://files.catbox.moe/ou15oe.safetensors character_rishiah_ivyred activation trigger is rishia ivyred, seemd like you need to prompt her features as well like green hair, green eyes, twin braids, very long hair, hair bow. example gen: https://files.catbox.moe/5t64vg.png
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**Mega uploads with files too large for catbox**
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https://mega.nz/folder/uuI2DCjA#JKGPF0uYT-1Zo0dE3wCPJQ sorceress_sellen
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##Innate artists/styles
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List of tags innate to ponyxl that change the style significantly, usually artists but sometimes other strange behavior some of these could just be getting activated by character names in the artist name or just misfires in the AI network ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[![no scores](https://files.catbox.moe/ymxn5j.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/ssmhux.png)[![using 3d in neg](https://files.catbox.moe/bp3ebs.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/g17f51.png)[![using score_9](https://files.catbox.moe/lui5ad.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/nvy14k.png)[![using all score tags](https://files.catbox.moe/ctx00a.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/ro2z3l.png)
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**strong and doesn't look anything like the artist imo but still possibly useful through varying strength and combining with other artists**
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[![no scores](https://files.catbox.moe/usoc6a.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/h6q88a.png)[![using 3d in neg](https://files.catbox.moe/svb2wy.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/izu8y9.png)[![using score_9](https://files.catbox.moe/29h794.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/jt3val.png)[![using all score tags](https://files.catbox.moe/kqnti6.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/rm24aw.png)
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##Innate Characters
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Males: https://files.catbox.moe/1lptzn.txt
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##Tricks with the model for more anime style
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There's some evidence that the model has a bit of a bias towards western style art, particularly when using the score tags (it is made by furries after all). It might be beneficial to tag your image sets with the score tags, the laziest way would be to tag every image with score_9, source_anime, this may affect the overall "quality" of images the lora generates since some of the knowledge in the model about "high quality" might be overwritten but it will look more like the artist's style.
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####My Current Settings
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My current settings are pretty similar to the prodigy one above, a couple times I've had a hard time getting prodigy to get that last bit of distance to really recreate the artist and have used AdamW in those cases, which takes a bit more tweaking with the learning rates. Usually I'll resize the resulting LoRA down to 16ish dims (for a style) and make sure it still looks good.
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#PonyXL Notes
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[TOC2]
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##Get PonyXL here
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https://civitai.com/models/257749?modelVersionId=290640
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##Reverse Engineered Hashed Tokens
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It seems like the obfuscated/hashed tokens in the model can often times be exposed through three letter strings (probably substrings of the full hash). There's only about 17k possible 3 letter combinations so it's possible to just reverse engineer the remapped tokens through brute force, an amazing anon went through the trouble of genning every 3 letter combination and noting which combinations seemed to affect the style. Here's his latest update:
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All tokens I found: https://files.catbox.moe/41sbn0.txt
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Zip with all images (small) and tokens: https://files.catbox.moe/tqb4go.zip
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Compilations:
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**Update 3/21/2024**
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Here's a csv of the latest version of a collaborative spreadsheet with some identified styles.
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https://files.catbox.moe/j7g22l.csv
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##List of Ponyxl LoRAs from /h/
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NEW NOTE 1/24/2024: I've noticed that some LoRA bakers are using different negatives when testing their LoRAs, which can lead to discrepancies when using them. I've mostly noticed that some LoRAs have a significantly reduced effect if you don't have source_pony or some combination of the source_* tags other than source anime in the negatives. This is unfortunate but a byproduct of not having a standardized process for creating the LoRAs. There's another section down below that has more info about similar issues with PonyXL that's worth reading.
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https://files.catbox.moe/kbaz4k.safetensors trogfor
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https://files.catbox.moe/4b97sc.safetensors nephlite
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https://files.catbox.moe/swjqw4.safetensors yd
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https://files.catbox.moe/ojbvr4.safetensors afrobull
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https://files.catbox.moe/rqqk5m.safetensors akihiko_yoshida
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https://files.catbox.moe/cuzgnf.safetensors aoi_nagia just using stuff from Elf Mori
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https://files.catbox.moe/dkjzm3.safetensors gattles
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https://files.catbox.moe/6nnfzi.safetensors norza
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https://files.catbox.moe/4z5ngk.safetensors ter
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https://files.catbox.moe/5oa88d.safetensors shadman
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https://files.catbox.moe/tccjiu.safetensors kylin
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https://files.catbox.moe/7sgo6g.safetensors uno_makoto exmaple gen: https://files.catbox.moe/yt0ip7.png
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**These are from the megas below, unmodified, if you want good example gens you can check in their respective megas.**
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https://files.catbox.moe/9qqq1s.safetensors suga_hideo
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https://mega.nz/folder/1yRSXQCR#Ziu9Q9Is5BCTYn53tnionw akatsuki_giken, alkemanubism, annin, aoin, chabo_fuketsudan, collagen, go_robots, ishida_umi, kafun, kaomin, kenya_suzuki, kink_(tortoiseshell), lucient, m_k, marui, miche, nezumi, nnf, pantsu_ruipper, RA, shizuoka, simzarts, testsuwan_woopie
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https://mega.nz/folder/NegX3DDL#NX3YguN8GSrEbOXuN918BA inhoso
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https://mega.nz/folder/fdoG2QDQ#6ZS_K55fY3g4NottW2NJng thanuki
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https://mega.nz/folder/L7Q3XaQC#jg7_M_gCun-aQenQmLISIQ banpai_akira, cluseller, tangobat, toi8, bonnie, everyntrge, gbf splashes (I assume some sort of gran blue style?), kaptivate
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https://mega.nz/folder/TZElCCIL#OEutCsJPD0G5lXPXLGgfcQ/folder/qMUFgTrR 2b213, Aestheticc-meme, Avotoma3, Blurent, Colodraws, Dustbinrat, Healthyman, Ibuo, Inkterton-kun, Jlullaby, Kairunoburogu, Kevbot, Korotsuke, Lakilolom03, Leftlewdz, Lone, Mantis-x, Marui Maru, Mctamagomaki, Murata Renge, Namespace, Possum Machine, Randomboobguy, Roly, Sandcavern, Sano-br, Sarikyou, Sweetdynamite, Takato Kurosuke, Vammzu, Wamudraws, Woofycakes, Yume Yoroi, Akai Sashimi, Fluffydango, Jujunaught, Jun (Rojiura Jack), Kanabun, Kanden-ki, Mystical, Spring2013, Bunybunyboi, Captainjerkpants, Citrusdoodles, Cloudxmoe, Coffeelove68, Doppel, Eigaka, Forastero, Gats, Gloss, Grayimpact, Greatm8, Kabos, Kanikama, Krekkov, Lk149, Loliconder, Marthedog, Naga U, Neo Hajime, Nuclearwasabi, Oekakizuki, Peculiart, Rizdraws, Ryusei Hashida, Sokonasu, Suzuki Kenya, Tod0231, Tomu (Tomubobu), Torathi, Zako
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###Characters
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https://files.catbox.moe/1wdl00.safetensors character_momoka helps to prompt features like hair, clothes
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https://files.catbox.moe/0escz4.safetensors character_sindel activation trigger is sindel, helps to have multicolored_hair in the prompt to get the black streak in her hair to show up
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https://files.catbox.moe/pagyj3.safetensors character_agnes_tachyon activation trigger is agnes_tachyon_\(umamusume\)
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https://files.catbox.moe/ou15oe.safetensors character_rishiah_ivyred activation trigger is rishia ivyred, seemd like you need to prompt her features as well like green hair, green eyes, twin braids, very long hair, hair bow. example gen: https://files.catbox.moe/5t64vg.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/62g6g1.safetensors character_uni seems like un1 is the activation trigger, example gens: https://files.catbox.moe/3ijdtz.png, https://files.catbox.moe/rgndp3.png, https://files.catbox.moe/t306wb.png
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**Mega uploads with files too large for catbox**
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https://mega.nz/folder/uuI2DCjA#JKGPF0uYT-1Zo0dE3wCPJQ sorceress_sellen
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https://mega.nz/folder/L7Q3XaQC#jg7_M_gCun-aQenQmLISIQ characters from nikke, hsr, yugioh, azure lane, blue archive, gran blue
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##Innate artists/styles
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List of tags innate to ponyxl that change the style significantly, usually artists but sometimes other strange behavior some of these could just be getting activated by character names in the artist name or just misfires in the AI network ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[![no scores](https://files.catbox.moe/ymxn5j.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/ssmhux.png)[![using 3d in neg](https://files.catbox.moe/bp3ebs.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/g17f51.png)[![using score_9](https://files.catbox.moe/lui5ad.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/nvy14k.png)[![using all score tags](https://files.catbox.moe/ctx00a.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/ro2z3l.png)
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[![1girl, cowboy shot, wide hips, hand on hip, contrapposto, one-piece-swimsuit, beach, sky, cloud NEG: monochrome, greyscale](https://files.catbox.moe/xlr9r6.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/aoeusb.png)[![chun-li, upper body, looking at viewer, crossed_arms, annoyed, city, sky NEG: 3d, monochrome, greyscale](https://files.catbox.moe/qevsx5.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/vd6lg0.png)[![source_anime, score_9, from behind, cowboy_shot, 2b \(nier:automata\), ass_focus, leotard, hands on hips, looking back NEG: monochrome, greyscale](https://files.catbox.moe/c3rsm6.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/sh86y8.png)[![source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up, tatsumaki, sitting, on_bed, leg_up, leaning back, arm_support, smug NEG: source_pony, monochrome, greyscale, topless](https://files.catbox.moe/54ojqr.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/3ggenf.png)
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**strong and doesn't look anything like the artist imo but still possibly useful through varying strength and combining with other artists**
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[![no scores](https://files.catbox.moe/usoc6a.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/h6q88a.png)[![using 3d in neg](https://files.catbox.moe/svb2wy.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/izu8y9.png)[![using score_9](https://files.catbox.moe/29h794.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/jt3val.png)[![using all score tags](https://files.catbox.moe/kqnti6.png)](https://files.catbox.moe/rm24aw.png)
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geo_(yukishitadou)
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last tried was yanyan_\(shinken_gomi\)
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##Innate Characters
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I spent some time generating images of the characters on danbooru in descending order by post count, here's about 500 of the ones I saw that pony recognized.
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https://files.catbox.moe/r29xho.txt
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##Tricks with the model for more anime style
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There's some evidence that the model has a bit of a bias towards western style art, particularly when using the score tags (it is made by furries after all). It might be beneficial to tag your image sets with the score tags, the laziest way would be to tag every image with score_9, source_anime, this may affect the overall "quality" of images the lora generates since some of the knowledge in the model about "high quality" might be overwritten but it will look more like the artist's style.
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####My Current Settings
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My current settings are pretty similar to the prodigy one above, a couple times I've had a hard time getting prodigy to get that last bit of distance to really recreate the artist and have used AdamW in those cases, which takes a bit more tweaking with the learning rates. Usually I'll resize the resulting LoRA down to 16ish dims (for a style) and make sure it still looks good.
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--train_data_dir = "$IMAGES_PATH$"
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--output_dir = "$OUTPUT_FOLDER$"
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--output_name = "$LORA_NAME$"
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