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The [Second Anglo-Boer War](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Boer_War) from 1899 till 1902 was a sign of what to come: Guerilla war and concentration camps. After occupying the two Boer republics the British were faced against Boer Commandos who could hit anywhere and then simply disappeared. To fight those Commandos the British high command (later under Lord Kitchener) burned farms, forced the civilian population into concentration camps and constructed chains of blockhouses across South Africa.
The documentary is from the BBC but it's rather critical of the British. It contains eyewitness reports from soldiers on both sides.
5 parts on Youtube
* [part1](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i-hy_0VWZ8)
* [part2](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-Pt7NFuvU)
* [part3](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQRAHBl4_lc)
* [part4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8bhm7Gngkg)
* [part5](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSox7HcHslA)
| r/wardocumentaries | post | r/WarDocumentaries | 2010-04-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6MnhmM2ZoUW45VjVZMGM3MTIwYWpzdE5jTFczOWxvTllxZXNKdDB4TlM3VXZ4NnNNMkVpTjBHVzBGTDN1dElsSDRSWGxTV2w3ZDBXRng2MUYxUkt5X0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DQkE0NVdsdVpKbHl2WDRZTFBaRENheWpxQTFyc3BBZVV2M09heEJDeG1JVnJKU0h4YXRia202Y0JKeFktZnY4ZFBoQUpFTWctRDRhcmxrMTc1dGdOMDhCcDQwTnhIclhaN3BBS20tMk1kRTNVc1NVeldNbTE1VldFai1XdWRpbGZzMU5OYWo2eUF6VEZsRjFXUWRJYmNoTmJfQmR0VlBCLWlEYlJQN3RLdWdBPQ== |
[Crimean War](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War) (1853 till 1856)
3 parts on google video
* [part1](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1840693300638450167#)
* [part2](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3382771328539290667#)
* [part3](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8478741101398447545#) | r/wardocumentaries | post | r/WarDocumentaries | 2010-04-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6cmNDN3htVnNMS2VWYThCMzFrcDIya1pUNWpGVHNjbFNHLVYzZGVxNjkwa2V3Ml9XUWZwSENhSUpHX3hPNDJWTUxyQU9pZ0RtNXVfZXlJSjZVSmZiZVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DaVRnSnhFQU94N1gwbDJGX0VPdWJaSmNMdzFTaHVyM19mQTF0eTBXY0pfRGpmUy1hZXh3cmFmTTFFY1dwcWZjdzREU1JZc3RjTDdpOUUyREZwbk5iOEt3SmR0RmFKYzVKZktkUFVJT2hKcHNSb194S3JEY2N2Vk82YmxzYlBRQURlM21RVVRtalpOYmlXSGF3cHFxVk1aNmJGUHJYbGVicFhEZU43NC1WUi13PQ== |
* http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgenf0_bbc-the-battle-of-waterloo-1-3
* http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgeojx_bbc-the-battle-of-waterloo-2-3
* http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgeokb_bbc-the-battle-of-waterloo-3-3 | r/wardocumentaries | post | r/WarDocumentaries | 2011-07-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Nk5jcElxT0xaSjlHdDZlUXk1VThrZERIZTlTUnRDSDhXTi0xS3dpc0R5d0o3b1BnSkEyUVF2MjhWLUkxXzZCTmwwVnJuaFhqZkg4SzVRUlBXeU1ZY0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNjNTRnJTLWVIYjJKXzlhYXY1SHFydzdpdFg3dmJPRDdYQVpfUmRfUXhqTjc0RXdfYnNjUDVLeUdjTGdOUE82bHA5TGxfX1IyYkRoQzRtbGxTaDZwNVNPS2JoUU12X3JMS2Q5ZEF4WVpHR3dOaEVYdU1adXlid25famFPYnNCc1l5LVBxWFNTLXpLTkRXRWl2X3hYWlpkT2RPLUVCVXZhTXRDM2c1SGk2RC1KbjFCZkhkQmxOOE1SZ1RBcEF1TEVW |
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD_rX71O78I
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIPawSa4o3Q
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P729E4wap-Y
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWfqJxSRn48
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4giMGaPMJM | r/wardocumentaries | post | r/WarDocumentaries | 2011-07-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NnZ0YWxDb0hkZ3daR1pBeFhkLUc3S3JlSThMME43OUhsR0x2ZlRweTllQjRsMVl3VHQ1YVRvZVAtQ3NXODhoWlZRRWZGUjZsVERSeDh5VkhURTVEVlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DTDZ2OGpFU0s4Q1o0X0VVdGpzXzdnLTFfVmxINTlORGV1Q2I0endPSDZiLTJHdllMSXNyX2lYVGZLYnJhNUlSRTY3T1QwcHh6UUJ3QjdUc1VwaGNDUXhlaUFiWG9xWk5KWXltNDd5eWJyY0pmNnBIRUItZ0d0c3NBQ3VsczJ4OGdkS09QUWZHU3c0MmNpQnJyNGx4WTNDZTVHSkE0OVByYVFnd3BVaWxuVlVWV3FRQ2hmcjhka1BCRDVMM3pTbmpa |
>Mr Obama is determined that beefed up US and EU sanctions targeting Iran's central bank and energy sector be given the chance to work and is desperate to dissuade Israel from upsetting his strategy.
But to give sanctions a chance, Mr Netanyahu would effectively have to give up Israel's ability to strike Iran and leave the country's fate in the hands of the United States – which is why he is demanding a clear sign of commitment from the American president.
"This is the dilemma facing Israel," the former senior military officer said. "If Iran enters a zone of immunity from Israeli attack can Israel rely on the United States to prevent Iran going nuclear?"
I think this is the main point of the article - Israel sees the situation with Iran as very time-sensitive; if they wait to strike, Iranian nuclear capabilities will be too far underground for them to do anything to stop them. If sanctions fail and Israel doesn't strike, I'm afraid the US may be dragged in to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities. | r/globalaffairs | comment | r/Globalaffairs | 2012-03-04 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6eUZlRmlhLWVjM2pPNHIwLUttTUlLblVsSVNKWE03VThGMzY5dnFnTW03VVVvYXo5dldXY093Z21XVkYtNEt6N0xXNnJBam5TQ3hyRDVicEpQZTd6U2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVjNnV29JSTV2aTdQbnZwM04yX3JsbjluanpHSDhtRDVSZlZSRHF2WlJ6ZmtIQWItQjlqZGw1c0EyYm9VX2l6Q0lhWjk2M2NxcDFPOUE1SGdGRlhQZHkzRDFvMW1wdVBkUUpTNnhZRHJGWkRYandScDBHTTNsM0hNVXBVZXRkZHRKcWFvZGpfSG01YlFQRGZvXzVPVVF3RzZ3eW84LS1rZlRqZDVQNjlQZXlsd1VTZG1mRE1vTFc5X1czT0VocmFTRXZhNDR0dGx5MHY0cGhsSjQ0SUxLUm5TdS1KQjN3SVF5QUVPOENNUFZzYz0= |
Part [2](http://youtu.be/udH9uveEQOY)
| r/wardocumentaries | comment | r/WarDocumentaries | 2013-07-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6TlRtZWJ6aTcwUEt1alhfNDdNZV9CY0V4T1p5WFJOU1ZMS1BuSzlfaUNYTHdVN0E5bmRQaE9XMzJjOTUzRlNBRktmeURBV29CWV9kS0dlZUxnamFHUWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVU5EN1B4Ynl1cnptTTZ3dk9BZUxLODZvTEpaLUJ5WDM1ZGJHU01vc284eXNLaWJjbGRPRW0zSzRUYVJzbFJFUURHTmU5UHlXQ0NBY3M2VlJVbHNLSGxhVGJwYU1UQ2p2clhOamlkNkdjUlFqWk9iTzkxaEVEUUdfMTNTRUlRQ0tyREtUYzhqMWNDdl9HX29ueFdCZHBadkpSUnNpNGM3eGY1UFkwSWxlNHVKd1gxa29uV2NScTBzRmpKRllVbnhqYVJaeWQteW5nZVZWVzhmellJOGRIYk9LblNvU0ZHakd0ZzZQZjIxVzFQYz0= |
Basically, South Sudan recently broke off from (north) Sudan, having been battling for autonomy/equal rights/independence for decades. The second independence war was largely fought by the Sudan People's Liberation Movement, whose armed wing was the Sudan People's Liberation Army. The SPLM/A was severely fractured along ethnic lines, with main branches being Nuer or Dinka dominated. These factions often fought each other just as much as they fought the north Sudanese. Since independence, the SPLM has been the ruling party in government, while the SPLA has been transformed into the national military. However, factions within the SPLA are still loyal to their mostly-ethnically-based leaders. The President, Salva Kiir, is Dinka, while the recently dismissed Vice President Riek Machar is Nuer. There is a lot of animosity towards Machar because he (for a time) received a lot of support from north Sudan in his fight against the mainstream SPLA.
This current conflict's origins are a bit muddied. Fighting has broken out between factions of the SPLA loyal to Kiir (the government, mostly Dinka) and those loyal to Machar (the rebels, mostly Nuer). Kiir is saying that Machar tried to stage a coup, but Machar is saying that Kiir tried to arrest all the various opposition figures. Kiir has been accused of being increasingly autocratic since he assumed the presidency. Other reports say that it originated as a drunken brawl that escalated because higher ranking officers took sides and refused to make peace.
Overall, it's hard to say exactly what started this. But currently fighting has spread to at least half of South Sudan's provinces, and the rebels have taken multiple major cities. Overall, this is by far the biggest and most serious outbreak of violence since independence. Previous bouts of Dinka-Nuer fighting had erupted, but it was always on relatively small inter-clan scales. This is entirely different and the UN is already saying that thousands have died. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VlBPMXhZTVRUMWN3N2lTMDF2V1I5MmNrMlMydXpDZDB2RHJNLXd4TmRma3hpS1M5dGxjWDJPWEJFWmdkeG5PNEdnQnJiZWdLUnQxZThBVGFlZ2tVX3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DMjBrR1E0QjRqSkdwcWtmbnFhZ1NEWGtFS1BrLUQ3TENtdFM5R0lBSzJLY0dYX2tGMGdDdkp1MklqWGRGM0JPOXc4V3BNdUY3aTJJZE10X2hqX3RiSm1sZ2RBd25kSXZSazdWRTFkWnlzMUdCTlhCMVN1VDVHQVZkWHFuN1FOOFNYY1RYLUxYWDJscUFqX0FLX0cyVkhEVW9uU25KT3lCb3RXVkM1cEo1SVlfd1ZjWXNEdEIycXZGU0dIQTRXcXUzMHlrRkFwbVQta0VtN0psZFN6VHR5dz09 |
ELI5: South Sudan is worlds newest country, before it became independent there were ethnic clashes in the region, once the country was formed one of these major ethnic groups became the majority of the new government, the other ethnic group wasn't as fortunate in gaining as much power (but these were people that had been fighting the muslim north for independence for years.) When they could not rebel against a common enemy anymore. they are now rebelling against themselves. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6RkhOU1dMWHNydlJ3UVVKbkYzeHNvR3lLUVpCM1J6TVdEalhqcnJQUFRPTUUtamU4ODctUXAyaDVqMGM5bWZqSGNNUmpEM3BCeFNGNG1obVF3M0p5aDhzZ18zM0gwVEt0MTIxb25zZ3AxbXc9 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DTXBESDNjY1BlSWF0LWlKakFXaS1GRzZXaTdyQWx6ZVpfaFREYklPbW12U1otN1RmWUNBQkI3U0Y4MUVTYW1FZkVja3dJSHVwVGZhYUxzNXRMZlF2cHlva1NiWERhemN1dzlQajdGM0pjc2dDTDIzMWhVSG9DQUM0bTVnMDcza2hpdjlBU0R2SFZ3Qm1DaG5aM00yZ0oxR1NOZnl0YlRzU3JSVEhhS21JanVJNW9yOFBPTkczYzc3UDFHTFlhdml1aGJyMndMOVBELURoZkhmV0h4ZkdKQT09 |
got a link to a larger copy? that's really just a map of south sudan with some illegible writing. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6OUQySWVOQzZINHlWV1pURzhZSldLYXEtelBqOGZkbjIzeXpkUlhpc2dtWV9wbVppYmpEcjFRdlJqMGFYQTc4eGRUSzd5ME16N0ZOVW9BbWU5OUlOTFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DcHV0Z2FNTXVPUmlBSnQ0R0xXaUE0T2Y5U2VMYkFZTzRRWjdIaFBNYUxlWktCWWVudnpEb3RFcHFWMDN5NWNnWUZ6U25Rb1ltVmVvN0dXRGJNa18zNC0xbGZvMGFsbmJZeExkWVROU3hNODVkaWlQb0x2cGZTeHhGNWZIWF9ZdU1zS2hKWEhnYlRiOE1ramNqNzRhWGw1MjNkdXJadUZyMzd4Mm1yNGFhaVQ2STdMYTdyMEc4OHBNaXpneC1lMGZ1ZFQxeXhhanZBVHB1VXVCc1pSTWZhdz09 |
As always with ethnic conflict, I feel it is important to stress that all ethnic conflict is political in nature. The only reason we see these divides are because leaders decided to make their ethnicity politically relevant so as to achieve a greater following. I know this may sound obvious to some, especially those who would be on this sub, but I feel that a lot of people take "ethnic conflict" as a given rather than something with very specific origins.
I'm new to the topic of South Sudanese internal politics so I am not familiar as to how far back the ethnic conflict originates, but I guarantee that it would be possible to accurately trace its origin to conflicts of power between very specific individuals. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6UXVUUlNGdmJwRGZ2Z2F5cjFsUUR0NjVVRVJSNDJzdTRYSjFfa2JnSVNHdlRvNzVLekVZOUhDUXUtQUZFM2ktMWI3QXJrZ0E2V3ZCZWNIRGY2NGQ4Unc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DZU84UjVpT1FDdmJCNndZT2JmZDhvb2x1U2lPRVU5d0JXTkFmUTcyVmJFUjhsVDlVbEc2aGMxNEw3MGlzdGhheWUzUXo2UWdCUFlselFHWkdNcnFSamVsN2FvS1h3bU5jdHJ4Skhnb3NYS3hzUjlidEs5aXV3Ql9iWGRxOWFBNDlOOXNKWmdiWmNaNl9ENkVvU1RXTk9ma0xaWnV1OE1SdTJHWkNXZGZqb2tQbEk4ZDNXY2tUUEU1T3E1RVlsUEJhNjFyWHp1aXc4Q3EwMmctWlNXTDdLdz09 |
Definitely. Both Kiir and Machar completely rely on their ethnicity as a support base, which means that their ethnic groups get dragged into their personal battles. Kiir has been increasingly autocratic since he assumes the Presidency, which this extended to the Dinka in general as being overly controlling. Machar wants power for himself (he was dismissed as Vice President a few weeks ago) and turns to the Nuer factions of the SPLA for support. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NlRxTjdIemFXeHpDVnBlNkROSmV4NWZmVEdTNnA4cVh2WjBRQWlUeUxmSVZNVENmcGpTTHN5ck85a0pLcXNyZTVOQ3ZWQkhlOWhXNWJDVnpKZkNSRmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNjVMYlVmMkF3VXZTdktMNm5lVFlxNTdoaGszckhxZGFZdHUzU3B1eWpPLXFqOHNEYTN5eU9jbXBjTGhlZTBmTndKc1RVcDV4Q2dGdndKcWtES3VqVkd0eUJIanVpV1JXTmw0RkFqQlhtS3Mtb1JQc1BsTndTaTdpZThGQzBSMGhlcktOWjZTSFozUXU5S0ZaMUk3ZzF3QjhmY3ZqLW05bFpkQ2Z1X3lzaDJ2ck5XQTVpbVNqYU5pZlQtVC1uVFRuRFJIY3F3ZjBaS2tZWktVWjZzVVJkQT09 |
So what is at stake? What are the chances that, like in Syria, this will drag other countries into the mess? | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6ZFN2SWFHLVctQklBcVlCYk90RnZJMkdMM0syWjEwZzRVaDFtU0J2eExVbXlPc2VISVludzNMdEJHQ1RQdEZvOWdtSlhXT0R1WC1aejZwRmNnYVVfOFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DLU5JZF9RZVZjeGdNdElnaUlDQU1TODJhTmdnVDVscnJCTjdqbDZuaFA4NXlmWDdwYlpHZ1ltV1Y0XzhLcEZhNnJDUXluSXphTDI3b0hmX05xdjZ3ck1CUWFGTk9pUlRMN3FKcmhKaFVBZ2pXc2ZBTjFKaF92X3Q0MmV2OUF4X0c5Qnh2TUk2MnRxQUJKbTM2UW5oZ3JyTUVwVm5EejA2dTFUaW5iNVc4RkMwazdKRV9BWlRPMkkzeGRJNWR5NXZ1RGJSUFFYa3FubXhhdmJVRTl1QzRvQT09 |
If the conflict will go on, I don't think it will be similar with the one in Syria. In Syria you have Iran, Hezbollah supporting the Syrian regime, and gulf states supporting the rebels. It will be much easier for the international community to agree on stopping the conflict. If the 2 sides won't reach an agreement it's very likely that the African Union will increase its peacekeeping force, and maybe even other countries will join. However, if the war goes on , it has the potential to cause a great number of victims. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6YWZTLWxqTkpsNU1WdHo5ODlObHBsUnJUakVTVjZtQUlpaEktcTFDTEJVRkdpQ3dTb1VUMlZOd182SHM3NEJFVDd0aHc4aFBUeEJkM3RldGo0Z3A3WlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DaDA2azRSOXh2ZXE4emNXWHdVbkJBSnZDUUdOYVJ0NDRLRTRteDNDY1ZVMlA2X2N1cl80ZUphTXFpNnlNS25lQ2VUX0puRDd3ZnozVUstdnA2UlNEYnBPZXZXcVJqckl4OHdvdm5STjYyYkdNeGJ2VjBrcUt2RmNxYlFNbExBZnpjb3RTZ2M0T0lvS2R6OWpCdVJ6TDVlaDYwdnU2aXhXNzlUbk1Dem1sb1FjQ2w0TTVST0lNVFRoN2hlb19QODBWWUROYmVqMUNDNE9CeXlNczFUamJqQT09 |
It depends. I could see Machar getting support from Sudan, like he did in the 1990s. But I doubt anyone is going to put troops in.
Most of the oil that north Sudan relied on before independence is located in South Sudan, and there have been huge disagreements about oil since independence. North Sudan has all the pipelines that allow export, but South Sudan has all the oil. There have been extreme tensions over money, with north Sudan charging ridiculous transportation fees. South Sudan subsequently cut off the flow and has started building a pipeline to Kenya, which has ended north Sudan's primary source of funds.
There are also huge territorial tensions, as several provinces in north Sudan want to join the south. War has continued there between the north Sudanese government and elements of the local SPLA faction (called the SPLA-North).
Between these massive tensions since South Sudan's independence, north Sudan has huge incentives to help destabilize South Sudan by backing certain factions, much as they did during the 1990s by backing different factions of the SPLA to split and weaken the rebel movement. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VmNOeVNSbkVRWU1nUVhCR0Fhc044d1VoNTY3aEpodUlKN1o2ckZxQ3gzQlVGcEVucnFCSm1OTlZrSXZqQWFNNTBTc1BUYV8wN2pwSlFBRUZtWUVINkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DX0pweEd5a1kyVDZ4MXRnUVZfUWFVekNXM1Y0c0ZGV09zdlFtNU53WTNuTDJrcnpSa3BjdUVqb1R1Q05uVklmZ1RJUmV2VXUxQnlvS20tM3NaNE5uRmxST0JwaW9nTHNKdl9vaW1qZEdmMFRiYzBCQkRObXk2dGduMUFQR2pMMHh2Q0J5NmU1VGpWM2NYWDlwajZCSjNXLUpkWTEwUlhaaDlUdmhtTGFYVEtyMW12WE94NkhwRURlWnhuakpIaGtBRENWb3R6UjBNV3EwQVRQRXBXWTlEdz09 |
I see. Thank you for the explanation! | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6UWlZVm1pa0xpZThodHRCZWNGcUtuYWJYa1JVaWNpSGFucDZYMGxsYi1wTThqRF9nT1dBNGRVYUNfanN1LU9GNFdiSDNKMldJak44Uk1zbkRTb0pBU3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DMng0c2gxWHl1ZUNDdFV0Tnk0amdCS1ppV0xiUVdfY0xxUWpKaEN5dnBfeWpDLXB1eXlRU0VOakk3UTJCTTVPZjgyMlZWRV80ZVlNN1NXMDlxU1JPTFhVV2Y2Y1EtaVhNbmRYS2NpVHprbkFCaC1ZZmhjMUtaS244ZkRhdkU5eGF1ZElNUWQwcXA5VmhwUDdhUkY0MWRnRzU0T2syaHB2YkhVb2Jweld4NXhhak04dS1ZSmVJNTNGOGxTcG43aVo1dGQ4cTc5NHQ3Wmd2UktKNC1CWWEwdz09 |
Great idea. I've created https://twitter.com/SudanSubreddit which will function like the https://twitter.com/RSyrianCivilWar and serve as a source to collect useful Tweeps. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6OWNhMlVxNktIbzZnOG9VdklRZy1naHhMMnAxVkNIR3VRalVfSDBLUm5sck8zdXM4S01xenhjcWpqa0FZRTlyT1V0anNvcmZPOGJCRU5NRW5jMzluLWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DUlRqVEgyMkJCVEYzN25CQ0NueXhzS3FQa2UyY1NfcklDbUlTR1dhSzZsTnFXVWxDZUZaN2pyaTdreVVPQzlIRHNENzVScDE4eFM5TjUwdnhnSjVPQ2U0dzlPRS1ZZHc2YnZ1YzQ3bmNheWpxdDRSNmZTNGNnamxPTDdqOUR3TDFCT0txdW5neXJ1NnNETzcwTFptVXZpZkdQMlhRa2E2eElRRkc2cWZtcEpiZkpMcXdfWUJRWFg3MC0yTWNSS09RVEpMaUFjTDVZQjVOSlVPeGZBVFRHd3B0b0dtS0VwWWkyZnNfdWp5NDM1az0= |
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize how complex the ethnic makeup was. This goes far beyond the Dinka-Nuer rivalry. I wonder how other groups view the current fighting? | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Z2ZrUG1jNEREUXJfam1JQ2V6aDVuX0dZU1UwdnJlYmwtWVZPS2k2UkFOaFVwdURvanVEd0pmcDJIYkVnV1VqbWtrMkxQU3VZX3JZMHpwZXJYT0xjLUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Db3IzQ1F0ZEFveURPQXhQSjByTk41TDlOb2k2b2ctN29LVTR0Q0ZEcTMxdEI2elpNV2hDOGotMkFadU1VdEY4NWtNMFk3YVVWVHZuVFhIa2tZUXBUUGw1bEU2WmtiUWJ6Rk9Zb2lxc2N4WUc5dExiYWpFQ3drNGNFVFRTYWEwZmluQWtyUmdaOUR6akVQUHFlVTVmaF9vMEpGNWlIWEpZNzh5SnZTMUc5b2tlYUZWdGpkbnNTWDdOMFhJVlNNQkNF |
Can't wait to get this place off and running. I'll post stuff if I come across anything. Here's a link to searching for news on South Sudan via [Google News.](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=syria&oq=syria&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j0l9j43i53.1104.2284.0.2426.7.5.1.1.1.0.134.465.3j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.36C-LYycyeQ#authuser=0&gl=us&hl=en&q=south+sudan&safe=off&tbm=nws) | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-27 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VHVuOTZNNW5yeUpBeG5zYUszRXh5ZUZSZGNGQmhQU1h3TjVLOF9SVWp5RVY3VmxGQ0xjS2FlM3dwLWhWT0hkZ3NwQWxvU21rWDIxeUV3aXdnS0pjeFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DdDE2eVBSU25vQ2VBS09nZ2Q4aW9HUTRqM1hYY2tvNHNZaU1qTktJOHVLX1lfRWdQczlSZ3k2OWt4QnR3VDgwYk4wTFZQUmx1OEhNZFRmT1pGMHhISDVLM3l0Z3oydlM2XzE4Vm0wYllqYlJFbndCZmtWZ0FFbGNob3d5YkI3dUN2anJ5dWNqbVdyVVZ4aVZsWFA4OW45Y0hIWWx1bmdkSGZVUmhDZmlBUUh2Q2kxTEtNTW9YeFRUdWxndWlBMlR0YzV2QU00TzNUYWs2aEpNTDN3eDZqaWkybGJ6d25McDI3QlhiRWEySF9JVT0= |
Official Twitter page for the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) in South Sudan:
https://twitter.com/OCHASouthSudan | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-27 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6SDc2ZXBVbDJYYWQ5Ty16OENPUU5oZTFGamZkSHF1N3ktMzE5ZFIxQkVzRVpoSWpLdHRzc0licnNEYzRKSm5nbDNGTkZsdjlEYjFhNnB4N3lLMkxpbUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DOGU3Q1hzdmhYWjNZZEpzaGxQZ0pGa2xoVm5xSnBaZ2prRm9ucjZ5ZFc0OGtQSGtDZG8tUHpjanJmQUt2Q1MtSG9QVTJEYzRmbW1oWnVLTmhFbC12TWx0czFnY21VbklVYmd4Vjc1Q3k2dmZ3ZkktMEtGM3ZNOGR6U2FVTzRGT29qeHNPTEUzb3lCWXhORTJMdFczd1p0MmFrb1NGaHVlMnJfcFJfaW1ydFdTOW4xSjA0amxubDFaaTNyc0hlNGY1RWRmb0NwQWJ2anluZ3FQOFdpbVkyMUJDODRlT1hOUzFCZW9ReHAzWGw3VT0= |
U.S. Agency for International Development Mission in South Sudan:
https://twitter.com/USAIDSouthSudan
Africa Security Analyst Lesley Warner:
https://twitter.com/Lesley_Warner
South Sudan activist:
https://twitter.com/AguilB
South Sudan activist:
https://twitter.com/censk
UN assistant secretary general currently in Juba, Toby Lanzer:
https://twitter.com/tobylanzer | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-27 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6cXNHdmNnUDJpRF9lOWdjX194Q3lodG43VkQtbUtiempya3VGT3BLSExYRVFfQTNKVkpsT1hkTmZpVHRVcjBMSXpoeVN6U25qZkpGVEMxQklwYnZrN0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRE9NTDNOVVNyR3UwNlQwS1ZEMnhScGF3X2FpemxvbW1GMVBaZC1xeVI5YzhNeGtZRGFsem9vOGdITnNJa3VoOFNJYmdFVU9Iel9qT2dPSUJnQ01sQm4wQ1pVNzJFZ1NyMjNkSmpQblh2TWp4eTZfVlhwRHhhNldRQnlxNEtsUjdHX3doQkVIVXlEYzdCeFZ1ZXdHakJKd25hOTNfVnpManUzNHRKcThOcGJYZnVUVTFYZ1BvbXUwS19kbXNGSDM4X2J6THR3SWRpbDVRS012RWE2OXNRS2FVSHh1UlRZSk1vSk1PX0VWU080RT0= |
i also cannot read this | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-27 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VGxJQl9fX3dkWG1PMDlyeGZmT3BtWjBxeWFCc1c2cGFRVXRrdXNXdFNObGw2aUl3a3BWVmtxOHpQQkhOelVnTG10YWxIcVRlNWRwd1lSUTRscXZmaFRObEZpbFo0Q2hGcUI0Si1SajluWm89 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DR2hWMGxmbEJMUFZuOVVScHF2aFFNTVpQNGZnWDZHWGp6X3hUZ2lTVnQ4M3VyOEM2YW1MRFRhQ0Q0TzNLdDhzYUVhdkVaT3NZdWpybmVQbHhUTXlvOENqSFU3ZUZjQ3l5YU5sVHlQREw2d3R4dWxOWXkxclNoVk9Xb1dlRnVlMVktcHRoRlhaM2Q1bjRiWldGTzE5VTJGMWZoSm9MMGlwd1dfM3paZlcyU2JsUXNLclpIVExQTUd3N3oyc05WU1V4eS1VdGJFRGdBQWc4X2tSYklicVFrdz09 |
[Original thread.](http://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1tycvz/humanitarian_crisis_in_south_sudan_1210x880/) | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-30 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NHNIdk9VcnFOMkxralFCWUNXOU1ZWkhKQW5waHZSMWhkeExWaTh4bmVaUzRfSVRkQ0FWWFdrRkEyOVRCMUdfMHRwZ2t6XzcxNDBPZllmZTZLMndlSVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DS2N1bEswSGZWSklFWmFHaXQxbENDWU9fWkJLTEQyUFA3T3l6MUl2eWlna3d6RG44UFBzVTgwcnpZb1VoRnB5TzNlbHJDcC1UT1daNVY0cEhoSEtDVlRqM2ZGbUV0N3RoQ2VncmZNOEcwbXo4SmlDUVRRcjFwOE9CYTdlQjBwdGZEUTJjVjJFZFJyUDZnT1NtUG1jWHIyMnRaVDZDMVdIUkswbWxUeUlrVVZyOXVZaDlWSTkxMVlHMF90ME9JeTNWOVgtalhCZmEzQnpiOEJEQURxRnVtM05FU1hSYklRT01KRjE4OE5mX2Nudz0= |
Terrible. What a mess this has created. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-31 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VU1NY1VYNTd2RGNydi1XS0pQOFllNS1zcXN1YnVucUtzaHZxUXlJbDNPN0NNUkdHRmZaNTRELW15Zl84V05XZTZTMnlLNE92UFhkQVZ0V25RVWVTMkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Ddk1kVW1IM1JWWVRwOThWbVVZNEtpUTlmaGlzWWFxR3RpY25vR0xVa1UtRFI4QndQUzJVRDhHRTF1Q3lOM0dYVXpNQWZiaF80ZFhscWtXdnBNel9Ha21zS3ZPcUFhVlptQmtYaC1wNUxOVFJ5LVNBdXBoWDFrdUZxRDJfNndMcGtiT1MtM2tsQ3NsT0w5S2hFaUtXT0tjOWNMOUh5S0lOLVh2VnFtWmNjb3FTRlA5NHFqS2xCR3ltNGxBek92NHdqVEROb3FidTUxTmNlaC1QUVJIN0Z2Smw2dlBqdmFpa3BRT3BjUTg4WUhGQT0= |
This was posted yesterday and is still on the front page. It's a good map though, so I suppose there is no harm in reposting. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-31 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6MGN5UU5mcnJZdGJPYjZkRVBEMENWWjdCeExIbEl5cHp3SW5mcmlqOW1RT0o1UzJlaEdlVG1jenh4NzI0clFpaVE2QW50RzZMdjh2Z1hwSVlpLWM3cEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DZmxrcDFMbkxwMEZoYTJqT2FJOHUwcXA3QlhQUVlrZEFhdUZ1ZTI2WDJ6Mjh0WUhuZ0Izd1V3QTI0dUZZaWExalpMZ3dkTnV4QVpUV2QzbE9LeGdZQ1dGeFZDcVVQVUhfX2xXVExCVnItemFhV21TZFFaeF9tLXJUMGNiQm9YV0dXQVZYcUVSWTVPbmtQWVpocW1QbkRGRDhfeTdJTHNDWmVOZC11RmFITXRrOFVrNUUwY2tQYVdmbUZEM2RVZHIxd0M5RDVOVGVjUGNjMGpSTndKblowNUNUYlIzZTBOQ3BFelBsWWg5VzdUYz0= |
>On Monday, Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni threatened the rebels with military action if they failed to agree to a ceasefire by the end of Tuesday, and begin talks.
Now that is interesting. Is Uganda facing an influx of refugees, perhaps? | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-31 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6N1NqZWFDNXkwUFVGRVl6U0ZRRkJ5dmVWN25oNWpnNDJMSzJVVHAyT252N3B2TnU5NE5fUjUzenpqTktncElQXzRnWFBRR2hOeFFKVDJiem1UVmtfdlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNnhoTXROMTM3T0hBUm9RVDV1Z1Rfa3RlaXlUMWpTUDhwT0xTd0Y4MEpSTnlYZTI5TkVZU3YteGVPdkw4Q2w1Q2Q1V0x2bEhjTDdaOVlmTjR1UW9MY0pubnhUYTBCUVdFX1d0dVFBdU1qMnkwZm0wSWN0aGR3Z2dONHpwQ05OYjJfVzM2Tm96aFUybER1eS1NUzhlSHJuX0VDUGxRWGl5OEo5ZWp4d0k4dTBySnpBcXh5bl9xN1NsWnNYNGNjcHF4OGdHLTRCVi1iQm5UajZjOUdQU2xfZz09 |
I believe most refugees have wound up in UN Humanitarian camps within the country, but Uganda and Kenya have both said they would not support anyone besides the elected government that is currently in place. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2013-12-31 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6M3RqUzBTYXkwNWxyMXBJZFBxOGNJZThuQk41eUpETVhTbzRtZDQ2X1RBMm13cTNPRG9xcGg5MmVhTTMzaVlBYzFydXNTUXlqT1Y3VlM1MkFIT1MzQlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DS3dpdVhyQlRxWExZRnowT29LNF84cGJvX3FCMkF6WWx1elRzTWo4eTJQcDFFZXE5RDR0NnlWSXdZb2llckZOWGtVQ3I5VnhVU1d1RFFSRy1pbTAyOVY2MzM0UUctWGlMeThaX0Y3blUxd3ViSS1JUXpNQnQ2NVp2M3JGNjZleE0zMGtjM3VPWlNlN0Zmak9qNHNrRktGLTVCWkw3aFRXTVJvNW1jX0VnVjFTTFU3azQzcGFtNHZzNmtoeWxUWXhsc1V2MU1SQ3J6VWN3TnNYUjlyS1ZCdz09 |
Uganda is particularly pro-government because they were a major sponsor of the SPLA (now the national army of South Sudan) during its war against the Sudanese government for independence.
| r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-01-01 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6X1BUcnFvWU02RlRCQXNpZmh3S05fSlRoM1hDSU5Jc3JvVWFPZVpXMUp4UDNGQWttMlV5Z051OGlLUGFxU21FU1VsLTJBdC1yVTI2S3E0T3VuNmtiM1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DeThHMjE5RTMtTno3ZmNRRFR3TG1iTFlyZUVpUnJfREJhUktXYkRhUWtGVnVyT3Fwa00yaENPcjFZZElUQVBFbGkxSkdMTlJ6TXV0QmlCay1xMW1PbXJjLUxYT1d3ck9JTjJ6M2lScTBZeEdOQmdaYmlici1wM04xT2lNVTFwMlIyb0g0ZGRScjJoTGUtZF95Y0ZSSDNJLUpuV2VpTXFhSk1LbFZoRGY2T3o3VXZESk1FdWRwNnpwdk5wT3JVcklYVWNLbHlIUHpISW9CRjVmNG5PcldPZz09 |
"1 in 3 has no access to drinking water."
So you are telling me that one in three die of dehydration in 3 days? This is going to be a short-lived war.
Or maybe they drink another beverage like beer or milk?
I think they may have a word there. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-01-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6elc1c3dEb3ZNZmhuZmxYaGNOUXRudUNpWmFKMGFnVnc3M0pBZGF1bDBFbnI1Y0YxSVNaVkdqWVgyNGFDZjlBT0RXQkFGNDRmSnpOdTVPdS1Ic0JpTGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dam5NRC1ISGNrb3NYZnNFSmJJLUxNWXJ2eHlNSFRCV29jZ1pSODFOMXR1aVJkb3BrblJhR1RodFMteFg0Q1drRlBvWXFsajVRcUpxV3VIU3FNaERjQVpUbHNDb0R1VE1Jb2JGVmdwV1h5RHc0UXpSQU53WV8zQTFTMkJLdDFGdkNBTW5BUkc5TEhWNXBiNktpbktaVFNtaFA1RkZQaFZFMm1DV3R2cDdsQlExZktSOGRodDRNMHhJM05LZF9zWXJEVllrNDdBSThUcG9CWnVqNk1WVy1EcW9SR2dzaUlIREpSSDF4WENqalM4RT0= |
[**@AFP**](https://twitter.com/AFP):
>[2014-01-23 17:36:45 UTC](https://twitter.com/AFP/status/426408174770331648)
>[#BREAKING](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BREAKING): South Sudan government, rebels sign ceasefire
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| r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-01-23 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6eEtFajlLdVVDQm51eGtVNUFnQmJFWDFRcGFxQW1xQVBBZzBJR0liN2J1UDVRT3RxQm9aZ1hLdXdtbm94UlgwempTcUVEbjREa3Z5dUxUWVhKQXRYMXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRWlTQnhiMVh3TkpaV003dlhSZzZiQkZZMGs5NVRtcVl1ZlhvR2dyUnVPanhUQzNnWnRBcEtVUUhxcXQ3ZEZsQmZ0aGVmU0xGQUVWUVU4cGdvWHZJbkhNYmhNSG9sdml5SWZJTThRdGJzc3Q4UUEtQ2JEekE2US1QMU1jSzBVVHRFQVV2R09udGtLN1NSeEU1LUV1VVprZHdVRnRiTThFVENybUhiMzNSR0thdDNBVUo1cFp4WmJOUWs0dl9qMFFCVTI1QktyWkktNTNqcXBXXzZYc0x6dXpFYzN0cHhzRWE5NUxlT0toVlBGaz0= |
I have a feeling this conflict is going to get pretty hot | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-04-22 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6bmU2d0tXTkJhLUR1QnRiOWhsdk9RcVc0dFpuYXJETlJLaWdGUDFkMU1kcE5Id2pyWW5FMU5MSnZEd1ZQeC1VZ0tLV09nYm5lUUdFWTF1dThkeFAwLVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNjU1YUplOGNWWHZOcGdhZjlHeWRiTGxqV2hrSG5YSHlTY0NqdVpudE0yYlZuV1oxdTkwMmVPbWljNWpmaHRfOUVUbW5EZUx5LVROZUFURTdsdnFSQTJ1ZkJzSzNnRlVTODJkRmYyajdIYXdjOVNZOGttT2EtaVhfVmIyb2NBUFU5YXozTTJ1Um1kd1libktrQmZKVTd1UlNPa2dXRmN5SFJadkh4T194TWhjMnJHYVdwWS1GOUdUT3VzeEJXUkVuQm5jTU0yQ0tHWERTNFpRLW45ejdwZTQ4bjdOcUNtTWZkV1lvUDAxdW50UT0= |
This is a very good documentary. No one else has really talked to Machar.
Unfortunately, it also highlights the fact that Machar only nominally controls his rebels. The White Army does as it pleases, and if history is any indication, that isn't anything good. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-06-03 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Nzk4WUtVZVl0cC1aNmtUYWdXUEVXbmxxSHR0Zk9KN09PTTNESnVqbHAzMlNSdEpJNV9jNGNHa3E0MXZDWHJISkhaTlRGOGhDWktSWEc5cXVIMjhuSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DaXA1ZTVwb2hfNldOOU9BVnVTbm92dGhpN0hHRHhUU2doTUxZeDB3d1hacHRCRFJvS3F0Ums1U1N0UGRoOWU4dnBBX29OWXdFa2hjVFpMOHQybHVKMVljRk5iMi1IdHFVZklnTWhhU1hCS3YxRkJ2YmZqa0RiVDcwclZua0otYVA0bzFHUEJuY0k5b2czMUE2QzZnUWY1T09iQVh1Z1RoM2cyTmwwUWFOeGZEZUdmSnFWWEc1R0RLdEo4UkFpSjZw |
today is the 1 year anniversary since the start of the fighting. it seems quiet to me in juba. a lot of troop movement/mobilization in unity though. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2014-12-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Qm51NTJmbHFkR1d4Vmc5dW83LXI2WVdEd1Z5eWlJS3ZqUXlkRTJoMWxjSF90R0M3b1plQU5zVE9QeGZVOThYclhWSGswMF96Q1hkNnY2UzhzWV9RbVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRnlUb0JiN0lRdW9aUmxocUM3Y2YxY3l6b0RqU2hDVTlfNEFwNHR0ajU3MGxYMm5iTWw1RDZaVGpZNE0ydEpYandjNzJHR2Z4YUJPNzM1SkJab3pfcEc0SHlMRm00V1JRRW52SDRlbzZYbnY4ODBEU1JkMXAyMGRuNE1taklhQWxCWExZRnV5NDg2TGVuY0tZVm5RaTZuanlQcDhBd3QxWHdvYVhvTXNNbEotX2JQb1ZWYXNleVVqTFNJMTBHWTF0VktkdEFzbjJyNnczdGNvUmVOak5YQT09 |
Why have the Ugandans come? To secure their borders? To strengthen relations with the new state? | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2015-08-22 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6MTBuT3g1MEN5MzN1and0S3JHa1lmUTRMTG5mNmJtaHBETVZsMUh5WDB6NmsxX2N0VnNrQkl1T01PMTZDYmZ0RFV4LWQyTjNTMm5CbkZINUlGdktxTFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DZlgxcEEyY0hzanVvbWE0emVSUDVCMXF5VXlrNHVZdnp1QjFFSEVZMXhmUVhjSTF5SWZkYWs3LXBEcHE0WVFwTWp3b3NPN3JtT252SnpsWHUyUmV4MVQ3NkhEV0xLSlZaQ3dVeUNOWE1Kbkpia29TLU9KZHhuaHZ6djNzZ3ZxdjlVdlJNeHlhRzBfRi1CSF9LcnV5ZVlXQmFUOUtpa3NBV3NWUzNKQnlOZ2h0SVRPMll1cmdfUFNOaENqU20wUDhGYkJvNUZvcEh3SWJ1OVREM1Q1U1UzUT09 |
They have been supportive of the current President since the civil war with Sudan proper. Uganda was used as a base of operations by some rebel groups and thus Uganda exerted influence on these groups. Sudan in retaliation for this support Uganda rebel groups. Uganda wants a stable northern neighbor and is willing to use its military to support it. | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2015-08-23 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6cDVBNUV0NGg4ei1Vb2RqTkJjbjdxeldXZFQtOVBJYlBqbDlEZm9wT2NySUlfUm5UWnhFbTlJUXdSM0RxcThvQkdsQTMyQkVENl9mRXZ2aXZscGIyc1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DR0RFSWFSODlwR0F6Q3pOS3VlVERteEg4Tm1SckFLdllndzl5dWVEY2lqVVJDamdRVng0SVBwdTc1RTNYY0lYbDVUTEdpbFRaZUtIUGxpWG9INWZTT2xScGZhX2RlN3JrYjZKQWVmaW5QTlh2SUE5U0dmOHB3MDhJWU42Unp2RDBoanRodFB5MGtxWXI0R2RsNGZ1MmIwX3ZCbC1reGdGRlp4cWxtcm03M0E1MkthVjc1M25xRlgxem9ZaldTbXV5clpQZWdNbVYzWGMxeER3cEplYkdfQT09 |
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> The conflict has left a third of the country's population is in crisis, up 80% since last year, the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization, children's agency Unicef and the World Food Programme said in a joint statement.
> An official famine has not yet been declared, but almost a million people are described as living in a "Catastrophic" situation, the highest level of food emergency under the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, which classifies hunger on a scale of one to five.
> Both sides are accused of perpetrating ethnic massacres, recruiting and killing children and carrying out widespread rape, torture and forced displacement of populations to force out their opponents.
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> August 2015 - President Kiir signs a peace deal with rebels after a threat of sanctions from the UN. April 2016 - Riek Machar returns to South Sudan to take up his job as first vice president in a new unity government led by President Salva Kiir.
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[**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/4s5eyi/south_sudan_is_back_to_war_vicepresidents/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 1.6, ~77468 tl;drs so far.") | [Theory](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31bfht/theory_autotldr_concept/) | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PMs and comment replies are read by the bot admin, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Machar**^#1 **Kiir**^#2 **troops**^#3 **Sudan**^#4 **between**^#5 | r/southsudancivilwar | comment | r/SouthSudanCivilWar | 2016-07-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6RldKaGJKbl9jM2NEU0t4TUNZUHZTNjZpTll3QTE5dEJocFlyN2M5d3ZrNlg5YnN0ZzJRN1hjMkRPQ0tVQ2RXTlZUckNERDk1V00yMzd2bHlOQzlkOVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DUm5GNXJpUFFyNk5iclRwblBIdlhzcWRtbXBoWnY3c2JqN05EcklEN1pSQTM2V1owemhxUDRjQlZuN2stQ3RLRHNRZU80UmxacHo1aW1kSW01VGlwT2NYOHdwS2VwandHdGlMUmo2ajlDYlNoYzFETGhqOHZ1Vkl2bUN5ZzVCSGFVYWhqN0tSemJmdVpjUkREeGxuYy1TS1hORTFVa0lIMlA2RGNoUjB3bk41aUVpTmlSWGFUTXpXeXpXQWhkNGUzblZWaUlkb2lTZElCeTVrTUl6Z3l5enR2LUZSVm1YVXh0TEdacU1oejE5Zz0= |
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37116862) reduced by 83%. (I'm a bot)
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> A spokesperson said Riek Machar was in Democratic Republic of Congo's capital Kinshasa but that he wanted to travel on to Ethiopia.
> A UN spokesperson, Farhan Haq, said the UN had learned on Wednesday that Mr Machar was in DR Congo near the South Sudan border and decided to airlift him to Kinshasa.
> Mr Machar returned to Juba in April to take up the post of vice-president, but President Kiir dismissed him in the wake of the latest violence.
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Yes, the government lied about WMDs in Iraq. Luckily for us THE MSM UNCOVERED THIS AND HAS BEEN REPORTING ON IT EVER SINCE BECAUSE THERE IS A FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6emQtTy02WjJhY0lZaXFzbXdfVXA4bFFwVEJ1X3pHeWpoNGRFTXdaVzdJcXBYYVNrZWpPN2VDc2cyay1rYnRvbmZoaEo1bTJaUDNSNGd6UDBNdVNGVXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVkVaWkxYbDdoaDFIQmQ3VGVsZWpfVFR5TVBVdW1mdXJJQXZHUXgwaDBZRzc1ZlM3QS10VkFlT0NkaWhBZWhld3c4M29ZMm9Sb1ZIc0d0WlllbVlvRWVwdU5hNDBac2FmM2FHVWp4b0VKaWxveWFPVFJVOVMxUlYtb3VKTDNVSWZianFkcHo0Q1FPclVxbHpQaVVMN2dzMklaQjRjeEtXN2llMDdHMHJJdVJjOFJRdDV5aDktUUZOYlBjRmxna1Fy |
"The list of criteria which you state propornot uses is made up by you."
Except that it isn't, it's right off their website.
http://www.propornot.com/p/the-yyycampaignyyy.html
That Eliot Higgins has been asking them repeatedly to remove BelingCat from propornot's list of "allies" because even he appears to want nothing to do with them should set off a few red flags.
The Rebel Media is generally anti-Russia (as most of the Canadian Right tends to be), but is listed, presumably because it's generally pro-Trump, anti-Clinton and Lauren Southern is a bit of an alt-right sweetheart, though not alt-right herself. But yet, it's there, why?
The sweethearts of the progressive left: Truthdig, Counterpunch, Truthout, Naked Capitalism, and the Black Agenda Report, are all there as well, as is Alternet.
And of course, the above mentioned listing of Wikileaks. Does nobody remember all the dirt on Russia tat was leaked in Cablegate?
It's little more than a neo-McCarthyist witch hunt.
That you need such a registry to know to approach Pravda, RT and Sputnik with a skeptical eye is a bit telling, especially given that there's no similar urge regarding a site that lists a bunch of outlets funded by the U.S. State Department, NATO and assorted tech and weapons companies is a tad... Odd.
| r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6YVVWRzVqaDRmdW5UMlV3T2hrTGRobmdTcmdtOWNNZVJMbkJNRXVZT05uZXNyZFZLWGhlQ2VIX3ItWWVQSG9EclllUmVCdHdMLXNPbVM4YXBYZHpKX1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DS1d2TU1aa2YxSEEyVUF5REtwUXY5NnEyaUZveXREQy1mSEpKOHNPMWJjaUpDeFhMaXZtS0luUi0yZGh5OC15TlFJN2otNkQ3S0NDZTFRb1FEWG1nQVNnblhMdTMyZzVwUHdEM1BPZHlVbTBVU3dkeS1yX1FER2NkTEF0NzNjTUdnemVHMWVUZ3dUYnh3SGN3RlJWSmg5bzNrVE1qX25jRnlRZVBBRFpFTlBiNHRIUDhoWGZGVWhOSmo1b3ZGTmZa |
I'd like to build a Facebook plugin where you sign in and it checks your feed and your friend's feeds for these articles. | r/propornot | post | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6a250b19fR3RmOXIyTXN2ZDFxUXd4bTZORktlbHZyR1BDZ25CS0c3V29QdXg4TUdSZUw3LTJETkxjUVZYTFFMdThZeGpSdkdNRDN6aEZpeGZjUXdSS2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DYmhYYUtGcjNzbU1vSDhzZGFGVGRsLTBzMkVxb0tNY013V2pjYkRjaHg4b2d0YnAzX283bEs5UHNBT3gwTjhPQXpjRVY5UDd5SjJRQ0pMMUZSVVgyVUVIbnJXbjRCRkVfRS14YjNRRWRYNExfWDI5TzdieFRxa2d0dGZOMV9iSERvZDRkVnNjNGdiaXBsNk11a3N0djh6cE9PLWwxVGF6U3M2THktU1pOTlZ5WEtfQXpUelBvT0VfbzBnamMwRlZfNEt1YVJOR1VWX1Y3cXE5YUxkTF9Mdz09 |
YYYhttps://ninabyzantina.comYYY | r/propornot | post | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6UDd5dmo2b196dE5TWDdOUnFqV3ZMTkl2Zjdvc0ZxM2l4Zlk4T3hSRWloaVFMcFpsLVltTGRVWFVnZlU0NWZGdklrQXdaU01pSENCX0hteVBSbGE5X2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRUVHRVdTVHI4Z0RwWFhleDZ1d1F0LURBY0QxSFpTeC1KejhzRzAtRWVYblJzVGNERm5mVGFOOTI2RWxIUEdieVJnaWQ2a0dyVEw4NE1iUk5aSVU3bkN1RHI3MVJyd3k1azVrUHphX2dSbFF0azFuc1A3RjNDN19PcnZUb0k3TXFJU3RFaHkzUTZYbEpRMWpqeG1XSXl6bGVQQkJDSkg2bTdzZFVJMnpuRlZFcC1udUFodXZ1NmVUTnNEV1B5a0tM |
Here's a question: Is ProporNot.com a website created and owned by Google?
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OrgAbuseRef: https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE5250-ARIN | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6U1hSbkdnM3Zqd3R2NGxZTWw2VFZRZm1PYlZTb3hNLXA1bTlfbl9keElYQlItQ3ZLQjNKSk52a0h3TGNNUHp4MEg0TDhLeHVuZkVpTE9EMWMtYW1lc3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DWkdzVjk4V1NNYTZtOEJRYV94SmdZMzhkX3hwczFuS1NyeVVTVVdxLWxGWTZvZFY5TTNoWDgzYzQ4dmVLOXVnYW1Bc29aWWdGRXNoUmZieDlLRGdVLWVuSE5ZZms4V1k3TlR3WmRmQXIzNHI4RU5ITFY5eUdBSTMtRW9sWUVsRWM4cDc4cDhmeXR5Tjc4M0Y3a25NRnJKdFFlWGJkTjdNRFBveWF6bXFsVVZjUmxZYmxaX09DeFBzbUk5T1R4WUlx |
So propornot lists those things as one of the 8 steps in identifying parrots of Russian propaganda. If a webstie only meets that one criteria they are not flagged. Can't tell if you're being intellectually dishonest or what is going on here. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6bVFyZUh3VFl0Q2cxVllxQjExWGo1aVVqVUtjLTRCOEhrV3VqSndqT2VibnFPQk1mMkR2d2hwUmphMTc5dFI5LVJieEMyNlZsNWtHOXY0LUNnTTVoU3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DeTl1YVlvajVnUG5uQXdVTFVOeFJ3eENhbHNxTFRYQmhtRWJjOEVseVpvSy1pZV9pM1E0ckM4d0k1dlUtTEpWbkk1SC0wUVJ1SUJZQnEwOUNuMHQxTzdCOXRXQm4yOE9pV3ZKeE1ZT2xqN0Fxb0lpZTVab2YyVXFEb2R5NHRPeWo4emR5S05rNWRQT2VZT1V4UnRISW9CNUJGbXh3M1pyVUk4OGRJNGtyNkItelpyNXBWcVJZckRnMEd4Wll2UUl2 |
Maybe you also weren't aware that McCarthy provided no evidence for his accusations and his apparent book of sovieta was blank. You keep saying that you're upset that there is not another tool to spot propaganda for other states. Maybe there is a reason that no one smart enough to compile a list of that sort has felt motivated to do so? I did not say i need a registry to look at news from RT, etc. with a skeptical eye (again, intellectual dishonesty?) I said that i would like a bot that calls out other smaller media outlets who use them as sourcing. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6OUpPUlhtenA0SDNUUENnUE9tTV9JSEJjSXFZeFlyM3NKUE42NVQ4bVRxYk96X0h0VlZjTDVZelI4cXVfbUxzSDZyZDZHNTExNXdpbU5qS3BUS2F5aUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dd3lSMkYtVkpMc3l0VzhJcG9KS2JuRzRPbF8zZzZWb1pIc1BwQ0RGY0JrNWllSHVlQzZ3SUpOSFlhMnRNLS1USGpjQnRqM3JTTHcyY2drdzZZdmxFaGRMZWduNWw0RXZyczFpY2MzWmFtdVMxVWJRQWxINllIT2FyMGtVQUMyYmlweGc0aVNLTXZKYS1JODBjcDg3MHVYb0lYbzBwN3pXcjR6dkhUM1ZENzh4MVhMZlJPXzdLZ0VfeEw3enQ1TWU3 |
You mentioned that you have issues with the list on this site. The reason I came to this sub was to try and flesh out some of these issues rather than the narrative of American media needing flags just as much as Russian media does. My biggest problem with the site is that some of the claims are not backed up by specific evidence and almost all of the claims are not backed up by a release of their full methodology (only a few case studies exist). As for the methodology, I did not have too many qualms with it but you have a lot more knowledge about this subject than I, so I was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing them with me. Thanks!
EDIT: they have released more information this morning which I have not had a chance to go over. Here it the link for those interested:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Byj_1ybuSGp_YUItSlFrOFkxeFU | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6a3hadE5tdDZiUThXNFJzZ3F6bFprbDhvRngtT3o5Ym5RSGpxNWpUaE9qV3RVNnY1WFk3VURCQzRSTl9sVGxzYzR3VkRCbm90d1NCS0NMOW5kY2t5M3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DUUE0SXRMb0JFRVliLXNfV29WZ0lXRURNekZ0SzIycTNvRlRhbmxiWTFnWXVCLUlXV3p6ZFZfT0ZNVy1haVhOVXBaOWxPUHdsZ2tLM19XdXV6MDhXcXNoX29VZkRrdnk5TThtdGdmLXh1X2p3NHFxT0dsbXlISExQa2VtZHdLR3g5dElWbzFld0VOVlk2Zmo1LU5HcU8wVG9XTTJuVlVCTzllZV9nVUpUbkxLSFJST0U5RDQ4VGg2TmhweTB3aG14 |
You get at some interesting point here, but journalism is a very nuanced thing. No journalist is perfect which is why you need a lot of journalists so that you can get an array of views. With a diverse array of political, religious, and cultural views coming from our journalists we can read through information and weight the validity of the articles based on the reliability of the source material. Journalists try their best to remain unbias but we are human, so that is impossible. This is not unlike the part in the scientific method which requires that experiments be repeated ad infinitum. Obviously, the scientific method is worlds better at uncovering truths than journalists. That does not mean that all journalists are equal. If a journalist is known to be forced direcrlyby its government to parrot fabricated stories (as they are in Russia) and other media outlets parrot that information, then they should not be trusted. Just because its not as good of a system as the scientific method is not a reason to distrust journalists. We need to do the best we can with evaluating the information we get from them, though. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6emdIeEFiQjlXZEJmS2M5RXM3SGpCVl9jVmR1SHFpVWFhX2lwUXVOc3ZSbDFzRTVPbW4xVFpuNWN2bUxaSlZBS2J0WkVZdktrUllVVzZfV0dOZ2dXLVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DakxJNWJMNWxpSi12cmZQb2g3WUVRQkNUYkNDMkt1MDRFRUpJQnFXOHRFdFlEbmFWYTJDNGlKaFdYYnpYRVBZSVpMMHN3VnZ3RVpubDlvSzQ5QWNqbGFsdEpnNzQ4dko0MjlOS3BfUE9Zdy12MDVqQjZQSWxkVHAwVXZCSkhqQTZTbWtVR3JWMU9ZTFlzQU1paHkzNDVQZ3VTNnpxOWZOREZ5WGI1b3hxLWlGaWNEY2Z3WlFOWXlyYlVBTDBOMzNU |
This post reads like a Markov Chain. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6b25EdkF2cWdqb1l4bmRzTDVLRnU3cENzR2gtSVNWTUZHN3lBVWMxS1Z4YjQ0LVh0alQzeVM3MlNvRGIyTWJaOFRpOF9nN0FndGJYc0xCcWdHOXFCZ1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DQTBqR29idUhJNFcwa0ZnRlNpMDdoenIzaklTTUhaSmFqcUs3a3gzTXlFZmVWdDVWU3NORTk5dTdJaHlHbEN1VjBURXF1MFdKMVdKQVFGSk5EOW00ZTQwdnVOb19Ja0gwdWZwREpJZEhzdkNoUVpLa2R0cGxJQVZUcVZielM1WEJyYkQzSm9Ba1ZNcW15WEtkQVU1dGRmd0N4RVF6WXczSjlKSlhUQjJ4WDd5Z2lhLThFZGxPQnlhdDBaQXJqdzBV |
I think the "useful idiots" category is more than dismissive, it's a dangerous slippery-slope precedent. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NWZLTml1VEtwZkRzZGNoUVpBVl85aWxhRUVoVE1Na0YtSUZWdTVZSjAtazBqQzl5WXhTZUZ0V2swTUh3UWtDLW1UbTNZUks0MjVrWk5SZVBzWkRic3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRlpma2MwWDYtal9mc2hPTHl0cmd0aHhUYWkyVm41aWlYRF9oMVFlTWNwRXBfLXR6TnNkOVk2YzFxZXk5QjFWWFlEekQxdW1wSmNNcnBEWkkyZmgwWmJZV2FaQnJITXh1U21wc1NIanluZ051ekFVNkZOMmhvWEhVaHVKM0Fvc0dROFV4ems5OWQ1NFR6TVFOSENGbjVWT01ack5rSk5RWnhSREU5MGRsRGpjNEhDajRoMC0xeEJ6RGNoa0hRRmpD |
The level of corruption in the US MSM is no where close to that of Russia. You ask me for proof of this, but have also implied that you don't trust journalists. I'm honeslty not sure how to show you proof of this so here are some pretty diverse sources:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-17840134
https://rsf.org/en/ranking
http://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/379880/?client=safari
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Market%20and%20political%20factors%20and%20the%20Russian%20media%20-%20Katja%20Lehtisaari.pdf
EDIT: original comment had a massive run-on sentence | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6TG14ZDExN0RYQ2VZYksyZ0t3aWJHS3VIQzU5SzI5bjhsSWpDQnUyMWhzVElHWjNwMVlqNl9tZ3dSR1FnRmpJVHplMXFGMTk0MkYtRVVXUTZUanRBY0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dak1BWGd6Y0dTdk5Lc1pHNThuMWZjMXU5MnZjQ0FEaW56MWZ0V3gyRy1DcHljeDR6NlhFVlQ5WXZOVjVnZW5lQ0wwWlk2M0hBZWdMWDVzTERVMDlfZngwWDFWMW11VXR6aVZKUlktOENNeGNxUFBYT2VaQnEwMnNTVEprMjFkTlR0bW4wbldKbmRuSWV3M0trSzlYUXhudHdxVWIwN3JxMnVFdU9QYVh4VGZDd1JubjBiRnhwbnlzSERySzNpalZw |
Also, you asked me for proof for a claim which is certifiably true and could be found out with a quick google search, but then go on to make the claim that RT engages in better journalism than the US MSM. I would very much so like to see any semblance of proof for that which does not come out of Russia.
EDIT: Spelling | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6TTlCenhuUnJoU25heVFOOVBuNzZnTXNIVERQRFhUWmRpQXk1ZHJKMnBkdVRtYldGVlFqXzkxb0xhNEtPbmpiN050aVhLazlHaGxMZnc0d1kyR3ZNREE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DekMxMXgzWll2UkVPVG14a3A2Nnc2QkxPUEM2dUMwOWxMTVBXTzR3WlY0SHBQQmhJdFp2X0F1UFlXTDdFU1VXMzdzWG1NZWhySG8zVHh1c0szZUxBNUp2WkpFRHlzd3hFRThuZVcwVzJaUDJKdnV0MFQ4WldiWDJFTXNLeDU4Vk5FNi1HTGU4eDBFbFZGMU9YcGJoQ0c4WFVsTUo2V1VXYm5pa1d0OFVLQmVUZkhjaDNjYVp3Q3EtRnZsVzVoYVds |
Corbett does a nice job too :)
PropOrNot is a petty desperate attempt for left-wing 'normie' media to stay relevant. They have been bleeding subscribers/viewers/readers and have 6% approval/reliability rating.
Anyone saying New York Times/Buzzfeed/VICE are "reliable" is stuck in a leftist echochamber so long they don't know what reality looks like.
May the dinosaur media 'liberal narrative' media die sooner than later and a free marketplace of ideas take its place. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Q3k2T1MxSGN2SzgwVnVldWJmMG15TV9Wbl94Mmo4NWRrTGppOVNKXzA1RDRLZDNnVHBUU0MyTUZnVE1fY25EZklfY1d0aXk2bm1rNVdiSTd1ZzBRUXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DWk43eUdLVTdaSTU0akhMd2czNVhQcE5ZaDRZWmVhLXBHa0w3bFNhMWxFMVlhSjhTa01iUkNfaWtOQWgxTUNsNlNlczJaMGk1WXV3STB4YjM2WkY0N2pYUXp3M2ROdnFGb1lQdHNyTHVyTUNEWktxOGp1R3NpbTBISEtiVU05amlWaWxibVAtRmNrQnIyMzNtYUZEZmFDQUtZZVItMzV6eV94VHlkT3EzWTE5N05LVUZQRTgyeVpMTFBhOFJFdWVD |
Care to elaborate? I think I know what you're getting at but someone who wishes to be viewed as a journalist should be evaluating their sources well enough to know whether or not it came from the Russian propaganda machine. If not, then they deserve to be called out for it. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6WU1Sbng0MDY4V0Q3Sjdfa0lCNV9VUm5va3ZoN3RwZlBwVkg5V09hS1FpNl9jQWthdjlzbTRxMC1MN19GNFZ3QXJfbDZlYnRyLUM1cFQxYUt1akNpT2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DZTY2T2o0dDE1MVlzMmdRMDQ3OXVFanQ2My0wN0NvOHZqbjVwX01TWXFVV1phNjNJQUhXUVRXa09fd3p5aksyTVlnelgyTzVhWC1iWldmeEZCa19FOGV2LTd2M3lwdDcxNC11MkFBUm9QN3Q2cm91SmpUMzdsVmlKcldEelV4WlFaTFpZdm9ZQW9vRDlPamZYdWU2MlkxRC1wNlhUQ3dvOVI2UHdjMnRpMV9tX0N0UEpxUG44d2taOEZtV0tyR3lv |
Comment of the week. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6dTRaXzdCSXhQVS1ub0hwVWdYWWJOZ2NFdkh2d0JCTGVRWWhvMlZMVXFuLVBSbHBWODNpZkZSUEdIbmdKWVFjMkdJWTNmX29ieWtVRFJkd1lfVTNxNlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DZ0o2UjRCd0RFaW04Wk1wQTd5LU1GbE0xZGNxR3dFV3h1UHQ5anJELVhMcXVCdkpWQ1N4dC0xWFdNNGRtckNKMHNzclhOZFE1TzgzSGc3UEhuTGRBN1RhV0xhOWk2ZXFDZ2haVEVpZUJvM3JpakRndWgxeUx5WTEyYXN4RnY5N21vb2MtbFAzNWlJR1NFbklhLVNRRmRPUjdFbHdSa0pFUS10dm81azViclVycUFLNng1NVEzUFlLaTMtRk9xVUh4 |
Were you paying attention during the run-up to the war in Iraq?
Here's a great video from one of my favorite "black-listed" open source intelligence news sources, The Corbett Report:
https://youtu.be/-UDYVmIMVA8?t=2m55s
James and James mention just a few of the well documented cases of mainstream news sources (Like the ones "Prop or Not" supports), blatantly lying in order to further US government agendas.
I don't disagree that there are coordinated Russian propaganda efforts, but the tacit endorsement of major news corporations - who *have* been caught colluding with government and corporate interests - is misleading at best, and counter-propaganda at worst.
Likewise, the category of "useful idiots" under the criteria is a dangerous precedent, because it shuts down legitimate dialogue.
Further, I am suspicious of the motivations of PropOrNot.com targeting "Russian propaganda" when there are documented cases of other governments targeting Americans with propaganda and other PsyOps (I mean, JTRIG anyone?), as well as mainstream US news parroting Chinese propaganda - for instance the recent success of their "smog vacuum".
We should all be critically minded - that includes our assessment of known government sources, and pop-up self-described grassroots orgs like Prop or Not. Just blacklisting people whose content disagrees with the so-called "Western narrative" is not in the spirit of free speech or progressive dialogue. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VFQ4OHJXdGl3MlpsdzlBZHQ1ZmhQZmpRbHpBQXl1TFhla1pHUzNOZlVtSWxPbmdhUGl1RzJCeGhVVmEtZ1hzaGQtbDRHZnBjSWhJWHZBSWJIbENNNWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVXZ2WG5fUkVWZzVHb2o5MlA3T1hMMUhqNlowdHRscldLNGFRbHo3NTJEYmt1VVBvQndVLUVWS090Y3hWVzRNQ0t5aDhwa0E5N1psdVFfcDJPRVVoTE0tR1VWWEhQeFlJZTNLSkFGLVRST3NOWUxLYktfaHVDS0sya2VkTkdyMjlpMVc0QXZVcDFUem9FNnpyc2xUWDVOVk5CYTNNWF9wcTZ3RGpQWGhsSWZiVlJqaGF6S1pkTGhPUWdhSzBLSjdh |
Journalists are the people that work in established news companies, so I didn't think that was too much of a logical leap. I am glad, however, that you acknowledge the fact that I would not have been able to prove to you that the Russian government directly hands down news to its media outlets. Do you think the information found on RT is different when read in Russian than in English? I do not see that as a distorion. This will be my last post to you since you have told me that there is nothing that could convince you that the US MSM is not in as bad of a condition as Russia's, so what is the point of discourse. I would still love to see any evidence you might have of US MSM corruption reaching the levels of Russia though, because I do value information. Anyways, I'm so glad that our country doesn't have internet censorship laws which would allow the government to censor your opinions, even though they are contrary to the state!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Internet_Restriction_Bill | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6LW1EaUFCTDk1V2pZRGxHa1RzbndLYTByUHE3NEJ2Tmg4dWhOVDcwdFlnSExLc3hVLWJ4ZnRJTVcwNTZlRFQ0bjdFaHdvRXQ1RWdEbmMtMmxTNlJRcmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dal9SOVpYVTY1WFBqZU8yUXdrQlNiUGVLejlpU1o3aXd4R2VLS29GbEtqb0w5ajE4dEZlNHFrM2l3ZnpFcUg2NFZ0amFUeG44clVQTTd4Z2NlWkpEWjR3RFg4bDl3NnFlQmwtc0VMVFVON29IRExMM3E3MzVnQ09tYUxGWURJb1ptT1U3bUVXUUQtYm5iMXp4b01sZ0JRUVhDUndPNVdBQWkzbWRZTmZzTndWaHFsN0RxbUQyTUxjZEM5MEl0eXk5 |
No negative feelings fostered here, friend. Just pointing out your hypocrisy in asking me for proof of a simple statement while you make a grandiose statement while not providing any proof (which I would legitimately love to see).
PS i changed my mind, THIS is my last comment to you (promise) | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6M0ZDVzA0dlF0TVBQanp2QlJVdGZ5TnpjdHYzczItWHhPNG9GSGtnOUFpR1M3eDMxQTU5dDRMNjFJRlBpdWdrQnFMTzd5N05NQi1oSHZBMVpSUGlBVXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DbHNjQVJTdU5udTVBX1E0U2FWRmpRbHVqT24xWDlSZXU2TVJtRHA3bk5pYVNiYzVNbjhETUpOVXF1TXpPZmwtXzNlZHJCeDJNbENsY1JsalpPREFYUXpqTDBVbEVpWGFqMmNCRkpVM2VPdHVSdjRQeUhfV0pXWk9Fdy1xYzRELXVvOS1LV2ltSy0wa1JOZkxVRndPQm5ES2ZHbFNiaWxCdkstaFFvRnlaQ19haTdZMXVsOGxEY0F1UjRJOUxUVUJk |
CNN outs themselves by using their own cameramen as fake protester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSfS2u-SmoI
CNN Boston Bombing Interview in SAME Parking Lot
https://youtu.be/ZGADrt5hhwM?t=1m0s
CNN Caught Faking News Coverage of War!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJasbigPcgc
Dan Rather's account from November 25, 1963
https://youtu.be/kiSoxFHyjGY?t=2m10s
Washington Post Can’t Stop Lying About Bernie Sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDR0USwGdq8
WikiLeaks: New York Times Propped Up Clinton, Subverted Sanders
http://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-new-york-times-propped-up-clinton-subverted-sanders/
Hillary Clinton Is Blaming Russia for WikiLeaks To Conceal John Podesta’s Russian Lobbying Ties
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-is-blaming-russia-for-wikileaks-to_us_580dbb26e4b099c4343198ff
Firm Co-Founded By Hillary’s Campaign Chair Lobbies For Russia’s Uranium One
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/29/firm-co-founded-by-hillarys-campaign-chair-lobbies-for-russias-uranium-one/
If you haven't looked at any of the leaked emails, you really need to.
["Media Collusion with Hillary Clinton's Campaign From Obama Clinton Consultant Class"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GrkTyNRuM0) | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6ZDg3UEZteVVQOFRZblBHaFdVM1pPdWVYSG9NckRCcVplVmQ3OHdqdE1fU0pIdjhDMXJEdEV2R2dsdXBldHdYUjRYc25pUVJ0RG1la0t2bUJqT3RrTFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRWJ2RzEyZml2MnRQVDRfS29YcDFteVNVSWZlY1MwckRhMEFSa0ZFWFFiUHBFY0ZRQkNaUXNtNkJlRTN2MWM4NlNkRkJiQkFZaVdQa0NsXzJwdUJLVVVjUUJGck5zUGk3RUxWUVo5eUNpZWxta1cyM3IzeUs2RmN0RzhuZmJUZTM1UHAwODJvcmUzRDJxSXptZzBWZ2wxUVJreFVfN08tSUNjN2dTejhyM1JkSTdYRGRsSjZobW5BSEtING54c1FJ |
Interesting. It could just be the way they're domain privacy stuff is setup, but Wikileaks emails suggest Google was pulling for Hillary.
How an Eric Schmidt-Backed Startup May Help Clinton Get Elected
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-19/clinton-bets-on-tech-strategy-to-defeat-trump
Also, Schmidt wore a campaign badge in a leaked photo: http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-6a12-d435-a9ff-7f5ae4080001
| r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6ODhVVjRRQ1BsWUZvSUM0RHVQSlQ1eEdob2dTd0Fhb3BMc2J4Z01vWHg1Y0VYLUZmUlRCdWs3NUhxRE5sVE5nNTV4TV8wQmJaVk1pV05aSkw4WVV1a0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DTGc5YUF1WWxDY3NxSElDd3ktdEdOTHVkZy1USVU3a28xQ0Vjcm1zRTBWX1VJVkxyR2tqRk1xV3NEWTVHN2h2TEUzaDZaTXZsZ3h2X1l6d0pVVUxmRjVLU0FZWDRiU2xET21XcFRSclRicExnbDlERFVxUmhfQWNVb29TaW5IaFpDNUhPWEhsaUVydEJaUngzd3Z4VHRPTVNuZmdFSmM5Nm01dS1jMVQwVmFYTXZTSlY4MGpoQ08xZzQyU1VWMEFq |
INB4 "Not your personal McCarthy" | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6V2U1MER0ZExBcHZzVTNoQ0Rtc1JnTWZvTWJxSzhQd1JkSWQ1NG5XLUFqc1pXU0FKMjFNdU5pOEE2U2tMRTNaUXlYVVpXcW5aUkYzZHdGTkdKTmluWkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVmVMdlcwSm1zTUxrWkU2cU9fancwRHNKQm4zRmltSDFTdWdfQ2xHN2E5QW1OUnRHNFc2VFBKVU9KaXYzUGQzX2Z3LXZCcjI4UkRRNzFBQURoNEhHMXR6dTVaanl3RWJlT3pwWWpYMWVYZVJFX0VJdmRJWmtwNTYwQWRjdFhpbVlOZzdneTRQallueDd5czRYMWNPbjhHY0RHTHRQT0VtZ3VEOEZ4TURDZ0E3YS1nM09qNzFVcnpRTmxPOENFY0tUR2ZWUENGa1BnZ2xKQXpZR1laeEQ5UT09 |
I scoffed aloud when I read that... Buzzfeed and VICE? Seriously? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VVFZWUlxZnFtclZtMnhZaEM0QjZiVHV5LXR0T01XYVNIbllBenNEVjZjbG1vOGNjR0RfWHZsOUhSNTBPRlJOT3BkX0RLRFBTay1DV1hRRkl5anBiM3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DeThEa0ozTGE1ek0xNGpBZms0WDh3ajNkb0VTSEViQ29ScHVDVkpPZDNFMElDdzZSWmJsWHZpTG9SaWF1Z293TnhRUmVKZGxIbmczYjU1NjB5dDl6aGNyR19nREhLSnlmVGdGcmFHWHRtSGRhR3phSmROZ1pQNDdEVmo5VjhZV3o0WHdhakxTY3hod0QxS2tFUjVVUlhrTmo3N0dBQkdvSFFxNnBjeVJDU3dGeVlkNmI3M3NOZDJiVUh6OF90TUxK |
I truly didn't want to respond to you again as you have already said you can not be convinced my argument in spite of evidence, but the comedy here is too rich to pass up. Surely, you have to see the irony that you posted an article from a US publication critical of its own government? Also, you don't see how if Russian media is not allowed to report against its own government then the negative reporting on rival governments might also be filled with lies? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6enNGNlYydlJHSlRDeHhzb1ZSTFpqb3lRc0lGOTVyWEJ0Ykotc0JLZHJLSkdGZENoWWV6WW40TzFrWmYtUld1Ukwxa2hndzlmYmpCYzRGYXd6bVdlNVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNEc4MjUzMmVmRGJGVzRnZmNuRkh3a3VlOXlmbmVxSmVCa1E0cU9hODJxM01rNXFSRlZYSlBqYXBjM2J3WXYzRjNzaE1uNzRJWWtGMV9SbTlIaF9iZ3BueW1vbHZHVExDdHNYNllVR3hjU2FMRm5VMG1MaHBESm1EU2RRcWVSa0dZYXF2aUM3SXAwZnRCUENkRU40VTBXUGxZX0ktOHhzdXlaUlA2RVQyQlpGQ0t6WTJ4YlVJZTF0VW95V19fMnhp |
Perhaps you do not understand my argument so I will state it succinctly.
When it comes to reliability as a source of information US MSM > Russian Media | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6c3BST3pxT1UwVmxyVHFXamoyS1RxSGJ2Ylhnd01qM0VsbWQySXNhVUY1UUVXVVlNeEd1WEZLM3A4Ni1sMWlCc0RGMUEzbXFfNEhVZjJoblRCdWZJakE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DbG5ndnliNS1ySDZod3JmdjdVS0l2VVRZUkR3b0FOWUR6LW1NYmpqMjkwQVdLLXRjV2dOSVpHTFJESkZwTkFhQlBTeUFmN0VyM0s2VDB3T3JERXp3REE0ZEZQd3prdHp1dU1tMEd6NFVhMmJsTVh1Y01rQVZQRjJSMVhmOGFOS0NCNHpaTlJpZUlIelNMTDBPYVR5SndDQkJ1M3hQc3ZtZVM1Z1Y2ZHB2aklkQmZVMmNLQl9fWVVMNDUzOTljZ3JM |
> came from the Russian propaganda machine
I agree with you, but this aspect is ill-defined. PropOrNot.com lists content producers who might share opinions with legitimate state-run propaganda outlets, but that doesn't mean they're funded by it, or even that their original sources are the same. See what I mean? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6UVVPVEw0M1hyYkJ6TlRjVjE0TFpCc0VMN0hqcU1nZUZCRmE4Sk1hR1h1d3NTbFl6blBVRTB5NEEzNDRVRHI1U1lLc0hpdjc5dTZwOFlQeWJuOTN4MXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNjR0TjFlMGthUVdPMmJkNkpKM29tWXVpUEFUU1QyV2tlMFRCYl9sRmNmc2R2bXlJZEhtQnZPck1HdHZnaElxOEotdHROeWhyVUt0Z1VESlVwUFJObF8weFBLeXZYVE1qcXRXaHJoN1JpNkllTnhWMmdPUmlKSDNKRF81ZW84a0U1c0Q2QlN4TW91NDVJQlF1TFB1a3RienE0NlA4Rnc1dHRFaGJGNnhpcWtJWXhaNVF2MWZqTVkwdFc5MTdsX1R0 |
Thank you for these sources. I will look through them in depth when I have more time later, but at first glance, none of this media corruption is anywhere near the levels of Russia. I have also seen many of the leaked e-mails ( I assume you are referring specifically to the ones pertaining to media collusion and not the ones that the alt-right sensationalize on twitter) and there are definitely connections between the media and government officials which should not be there. I am not trying to make a Russia=bad US=good argument, although many people seem to be interpreting it as such (which could very well be my fault). So allow me to clear up my argument. When it comes to sourcing information, American MSM is no where near perfect, but it is still much better than Russia. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NzlUb19FZHM5RTNMcHNPQlpoQXlSSlREekp4blZxcTQxZFRCOFc5U0g5Vi1zcTRLa1RUZTJocjJNRFA0X1lXcEJtc25ZV29rbGVTcG9ZakNtV1RpRWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DUUc5MC1zUjZ1YTdPUG4zaGxSUUQwWUN5b1VVcHpacTkxQTdtbGlRV3BOOUFTbFlXQ3J6c0pyTUQ1MFZQYWI0ZzM2MDNQZlRucTFHTlU1bXZXRml5bFh2ai1EUEtoWWkyZFlOZ1F0cFJtRUlfbV9naDBQNFRQaWR5ZGo5czM4RlFVTkRQcWEzUGU5UFEzdFBKam02NE1ja1k0TzlSWURzZG52TzhMTkFKaHhRS0dXa084SHFHZldxM1VZRU91Ql9N |
I am not so sure that websites whose opinions align with state run propaganda, but don't source information from them will show up on PropOrNot. It is one of their criteria for searching for websites for "The List" but it appears that more than a simple agreement is needed for a site to make The List. However, their methodology is not perfectly clear, so if you are right about this, then I agree, they should not be called out. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6MGVJeC1wVlJ2dzN3dkl1a3hpYlpEQWs1LXZKWXU4cTFmcjRMU0hYVGNwYmVibWhIYmNrdURkTklNbDRmbjZrUHpWS2ViSTh0eEJWXzhYZk1ZU1h3T3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DazdOSDc5elVZTkljd0d3ekliSnkwSE4zX1daWlctWmxCSHNnSlI4cDBkcVc5ejEwSm0wU0VsSENkSFU5d3lDbG1KUU01ZXk4bGVLUm9qT3ZDMWRXZ05WdHZvcHV6Y0dJWTI3ZTNFLUZYeWlDaEE5THlQVXU2RVJqWWZ1dEhURUJXZjNPbU8zNWREd0IzSmhrdV9RRWFzTjkyUDJidG5YdHAwY2t2Z1REUGc0emUxaGIwaHQ1aVp4T2NBYTFJSWxu |
What about Chinese state-run news?
If PropOrNot.com targeted all state-run news (yes, including NPR), then I would be on board.
As it stands, this just seems like a continuation of the campaign rhetoric we saw from Hillary. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6TjB1VGhDUElGMzloY0V0LW9UbWVzaUQ0RFBBZ3NMbDJ5TkZTc3djRGlkRHBoMjVuMTNyQ2NrUk1PUU8wenY1NTJpNVlqeWpBOGhSQmI2WG8yOUhzWXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DenlhTGpwRzZPZEZlS2Q2Y3VPcEhjY3lsUVhCVEt6UEQxSGFDNEhfTU1pc2FRTW14TkhFSFZDV2p0SkdKeEg4d3hPekluQm9OWDRuUXgzd05wdC1RQm56UmxMN3lESlZxOEMtYmJ0OEZhN2U3dXJTTWRWaExycm11bWNXWHQtbUJKLUlrd0ZlOHdPUC1PVWp1UVlUYmtxRVZubnhPZXBQWkxoMHBpRjl2b0hxQ2VVYWpJdmcxcldCcm1yNnJwVDV4 |
They are using blogger.com and have their domain name parked there - that's why it says the server ips are at Google.
Looks good on Schmidt and Clinton that with all that juice in their corner they are still losers without a clue. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Y19Ual9XemxJdk1pZUM1LW5CVm5hRlpLdEVJZll1TEE4MmM0a2JtVDM4aGQ1SzZ4V2lONGZVV1lfbGNENjBiUlE2RUZJQVpkNFJxREIyUkowekZrX1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DdVhoeDNJa0lxUFRoNXhVZVhEZTRrdDluR3NYZ0M2dGF2bjZQNnI0SGJlakZVTHU0VGJ4RGwtc0NJSllkNWVmeVVyZVhZZTd0UTJHaGRCS3IxMjdHNFNxMkRINm5BTmo2cTNzdV9rRlU1S1o4eUJnRi01a3lMZkpMSjEtTzNWRTJRMTBFNVp2alFtV1hGQ3hSakoyQ1VJcEFUUTBaSWxwM2FhLU1BVFNfZW0tYXNjUS1YU05fZnlmYjFRM1IyVE9K |
PropOrNot is a tool which attempts to identify websites which source information from Russian media which has little to no journalistic integrity due to its lack of a freedom of press. Other countries, like China, are guilty of doing the exact same thing that Russia does, absolutely.
Critiquing PropOrNot for not calling out other state-run news is like critiquing a screw driver for not being able to drive in a nail. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6ZXAzOUVOYncwYWYxSldUZEVqUE04WFpEVi1HU0plQjJYV3Ayd3BKYXIzYWp4blducUlEQUxWQjdzTWtyTlFaVGE2YzNmUlN2NFpHR0lHUUdEOGxZNXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNGJQRHNPU0ozSnpybksxOFhpNnZoLWZjekdYMmRnN05Rb3ZaeVd3Rl9DckN1NElEbHJwTGozak80QnhSTlpReVBYNHM3aG1JdkcyZ1d4b3U2WjQ2dW1GWndNUW5jYlhDT1NhXzJ3QXp4cXQxeFVQUjRueVZPS0JOeF93NlFIVTVlYXZZeUhEMVBMcWtKTGJjNk4wNW9HUjUwUm9vbF92aWUwdkJqNEdtR3B5M1U5d2tKSGVOcm5kSTIzMUFDWTZY |
> I am not trying to make a Russia=bad US=good argument
But that's exactly what PropOrNot.com is doing - If a blogger so much as *links to* an RT article, suddenly they get blacklisted as a propaganda outlet.
That's the point of the Chrome app - it's a binary (Good or Bad), it doesn't show you "How shady is this media outlet on the Intl. Shadiness Scale?" Again, something I'd be fully on board with. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6dm1EU2hFTzliczVxT1RPRGUtczZTLTJmRk5pbzRXb0dsd0MtdGZNcS1vX3BEbUhWSTgtTnJZT3A3T0ZZOGsxRTc0cHIyRkpHX3ZpUS1BSmRvaG1sQkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dc0I1clZkYmFQMmc1THE2VWRpMndKeWpZVlhtOGpEV3ppdVVVa3YxdUZxclNNMnNTTDRfeHNzR2hMLXdPc2lqX1NtbUJ2V3pjMFVyWUpPN05XQnZCeUpGdVJkX0ZRTEp4cW9NSl92cnVRbElkR2t2UnVhdFFKc1FHcXFQTGN5X0dPcFZDd0JkQTgwdkRaNmFuQWp6NC10TWNENkJlRU5Scnp0ZE1kczFiQmtOOFFqM0dUbFVFZFRNM3VIVkdoS2do |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NUJjbDhvOWpDQnVGTEsyTkF5Vk1JWFJJSzhjQk5hVzc0bVNFQUlDclhiR0c0X1N2MDFQWWZvci1nZE1EOUxGczJKbFExdGlha3dydDRBdkdqSFlZZmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DT3NlVGl0bHBlSXhBUG0xeEp0cEU3UTBWaHhDbnRnbkJ2RTR4SXV0bndLVHpmdXdOME1wbFppT0tyaFFReENRb1JGSENzSWhEMVIyRjdISk9EY0RXVDBrMkt5RWpIM0o2dURxSW0yUDB2bGJ2V19LbzNfR0lJcXVISmFxNEpxR09PdXduTEFTNFg0U2VaSEJkSHBJWFJORHkxSXNCMHU3cnBWd1pYamZyS2hVVjBLeGt3RjFFOEZ5ams3c3ZsYVRnSGsxQkUwTXk2cGtFdUtrV0pJM19Wdz09 |
YES NUKE D&D FROM ORBIT, HAIL LOWTAX MY RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA KING. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NnNBd0NJTlZHY3F2MXFRQ055SlIwTGRHaDRSUUlEVXpRbEdoakpoWFdMck5yMzJrQUo2VTJNWmVyZ1Q4dy1FTzE4djN5MUlVNlhGbkFoRk1rZDNKdWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DSEhJRTk4ZUJBX1BDMVU2ODZuYWxZRzdOYndISEF2aFBuTjlBOU5pU09wX19oX1VRbldQakdBS2ZoZ0JTNFRsaXloSjJWTmctVTNwYnZJTVNBUGhXOVNZSy1HdnVmaHQwYjBvVlhKcHl2cFZxRWVzcVZ2V3ZZb1BmWUQxSkxZWXZwc2JjTFhSVlVyNTVqdGpxYU10TGlGZzJwTDVtZl9HbVotdGEzLUJIRW5tN21kT0k0NklUTURjTHJWdEREb2I1R0diZzlHNFl1N1R6MzYyNW1fV09tUT09 |
> their methodology is not perfectly clear
Doesn't that concern you?
Furthermore, what about countries that only allow state-sponsored news? If I want to report on the goings-on there, I need to either personally take a visit, or parse through state-funded news (which probably means linking to them on your site). This effectively blacklists entire nations' news media, and outside pundits as well.
Just learn how to read the news critically instead of relying on some shady organizations opinion. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6VHRYVDdIekFSZU40XzBBNk94enE1MEN3d3RONkZGWklmakk1bDN6VnptMTEzWnNZbl95SnpaMzhRckZ0YTNZZnVjR2JpTHE1bzFLb29rMzNSS1VOR3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DeTUwYnZfU0FORVc5YjVkS2psdWpVUURMZWk2Ul9ETHEtZmZvem15N0V6QTRLZmVxZEdaV0tGS0VFZTZHYzdBTlVoMjNqaVdfeFFZUTVsMWNTRWR3UFNOTjFMYmpmLWE1bkJvX0VxVjI3VDc0dksyWmljM1paWE1TVlFVYzV0cE5EQzh0QTRJT1RjNTVfNHNPTkd6S2I0Y0RLNjZZV2FCN0RLRGpBY1BKQURMckctX0tWQjk2MTk3VDI2TFdmNGRK |
WHEN I GET MY RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA I AWAYS GET IT FROM THE DEAD GAY FOURMS SOMETHINGAWFUL.COM | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NzBHTE8yY2pSU1RwSF9ESmVjeWF4cTJ4Ni13cGpEbDhleGZ4R09QLTNzOEtKVHlKOG9OZExYUldNMFc1U1lCbVpfeHZzbnZmMVV6cEFLN0JwOHlLY2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DbzZwOUNRMGR0c0ZFSm5icTNPTDJVUDZtU3JObjVXN204TW1fMEJnVXVxOGxHZlhtcUk2NGxheDBKR09CVDBZZml1SzgyUGcxSVNoMTdtTHVyUE9YSU5ia25xWXpnUFlqb1JFU1pHNHgtT1JrX0Q1QzJrenpTclNUY1BwdDNSSUx0WUE2YWFfWmlVQ3BGRkotU1RfNGYyZTlWRnlHRlNrZVdIS3c5dmM2RnlWZGVsa3hGY0NPQ2oxbjYySzBzWHlLcUtjWmlZQnJZQ0RxSTFNemEzOUpVQT09 |
ITS 1984 BABY, THE THOUGHT POLICE ARE HERE. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6aHJUTWwzT2stQlE2OVRZUUFJdTkwTF9uRzlaemNsY2hhbkFwQXc4eUtjMmN2UlBGTFdOTGhkTUo2U0k0RFlYUzJDcFRYdHMxUThvZzh2ZTl0dTkzd2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNS1SbkRjNWU1WVF5VEczNW9qcnlqLVZFbzhlQ3V0Mm5XekU4WkplcUpjSTRUOE1yV1FsaFh5bi1tSElFcmVXZGFmcVRUUkg4UjBKTkczRGJqdTFCSGpJdHZUUjFJalVSWGZLWV82QXZ0dFNodGw4VDdhR0RjVElBbEhadlJmSG5WamlNajg4WUNyVkVfUGxMN2xWSXRyQ05JRFFIQVhFMnhFMUtZWEFxZURNU1FaOEtrRWxuTUNZM255NHJjZFFVSTlCVEZRRU1rNm53Njh1TE9uMnRWdz09 |
"INTERNAL" REVIEW HUH. REVIEWING HOW MUCH CASH YOU GOT FROM CTR? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6V3hOeEVaeUlZUUVfdnBxbzVEa1Flb3BSQTh6MUYwV1lEMFhQVlRMN3AtLWRMc25OSS11emE2NEpzUGlickROcVdDdXRXTm1kS05Za3NuY1dTd0tHMnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Db09OTlY0WW9JNWtiWlFyZUN1YXROUWdVTWZKdHpSR0JyNUpwQ1lfY3c0NldFYmVDVmZoTDJVVHYxTnF3bHZGamtzUVVaS0ZOMGFxbHlkWUJqRmxyckVYTTh0N2tnbFFaNkYwcTd5WktJT0FrRnN4SmZkanRITmhsSkRPanBlb0FldjZqZm1WanFPMzBDQ09HLU1pcmJZeXlYVS03SFdKbUpPTDBZZ3d2MmR3WllFLXhsTEhibnF0WC1HXzhKLV8zUEh0dW1PNWVrRVdkRzNGME1XRGZPUT09 |
Hah! We will respond to that in more detail soon. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6aWRIa3AyS2x6aDZCdzFLcUxCNnZaOWd0b1hrUDFEelJDRDhSTjNTU3V3aDMyZnNLUzA3X1dMaTNYXy1ZX2ViQzVUVFlGRkxRcUg2ZU1tb2VLM2s4dmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DMVA5UnBWdDNVb3IxcDF1dFNjWnhTLUkwTldtRWtqdXV3MkQ0RWd4bGwtSkYwYWFWNm03Sjg3bk5QcWVNUWZDRUZKTnBGbl9keUFSOEJCVDlFVnZvTzdZQTFRdlFNYm9xbzIxdFloRUNyVUtLZ0xUWE1tSjRTTWNGbE1weF9xVlkxYmU0MUhkejI5dVA3aWxkY1I5TU5GYlNHeXJqSGNjVWFOUURKZ0IyYUYxaHYtMVJFdjJBX0s5bE5RbktrNUtC |
I just think it's suspicious, given the timing and recent accusations from the Clinton camp, as well as the mysterious nature of PropOrNot.com and its self-proclaimed "anonymous volunteers".
Sounds about as likely as Russian soldiers vacationing in uniform. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6dEtnaTZXV3JDOVp0QnNUNVpFOTRCTVdPYl9MdmY0SFctOW4tN2NYZ0dCY0ZCQ3VTc1ppb0pNTTBnVUZ5UXk2RlNZMVo3YnRrNF9ybU13aE9WeWVMZkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNTRqTlhMdFVmd3E2SGtHbzlyQ29jYUh0UjBvNmJrMVRoQzdHd1l1b2dQQUtyTkJxcngyTW42dDM5TDhNd2EyVGFtX0dnS1BiaVd0UFdUdkVQSTNLaThBdk1aa3hId1l5OGhkbW5tMy0zeEcxOU92MTQ2bS0tZkI0eWc4UEFuYnRQVmJ2YWxaRk9vRFBvSTFEb3ptT3VUNjRtU003dnRPeXRNdEhFaklwcVNiQ2xFV1ZHd1gwcktER0ZseXRzakF3 |
We highlight. We do not censor. We fiercely believe in the rights to freedom of expression and freedom of the press, and have no interest in seeing anyone punished for exercising them. Quite to the contrary.
However, when outlets and individuals echo, repeat, and refer their audience to Russian propaganda, we're going to highlight it. They have the right to do that, and we have the right to call them on it.
We encourage others to describe their methodology for identifying fake news and propaganda in as much detail as we have, and build systems to simplify its identification. That does not "dull our senses", any more than cleaning up a pile of bullshit "dulls our senses".
Finally, we are not funded by anyone. We are completely independent. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6a3NzMWFYTGZ2Y3J4R1BYaGczbjdyelBhYUpxcjRTWGd5ellJM2VGdGwtOGJRM0NJeC03Xzc4SFljZUhYX1RwTTZsU214cVNvSG1Ld2JyeVA0S3hyekE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DeGpSWG5KWGxKcDUxeDk2UG15RHJVX3V0cE50NmVDUDA1bFVITExUQWhBcnVxRHMzZEhpR0hkdDNCTmVORlJvRlJoOWRfVWdGVGEzX1JMV2lQd0gzOWQ2d1lMMmRQLTBQd3JpS2hNRTN4Sjhxc21TeUhQR2F2VC10UXJ2YUF3SHpEVno1NVliSHFNSnBDYUlvSWJLM2dDSV9GZzNjZ0s0RUtpVHVmSlQtWFhGYzgtRU96VF9ja1A3eHhzUE5BdFVYSk55R1paOTJWclVDVzVIUDBMUGhZQT09 |
Interesting - will add to the our internal queue for review! For future reference please put some spaces between the YYYs and the domain, so it still parses. Thank you! | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6N2RheFBQNng2UlYxQ1c1Zmk4MHpGSkRSV29WZVdZbXdKNk9LUGk0WGp3UXRZQklVRDdUNHE1V0pjWEFYMmxPTU1fcmpVSTA1Y1lreUoxNmU3WVd4NkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DTkk4Ym54R1dRb0ZiTXZBOWlkbzRHV1JGWjJJeVF0bWgwcGFPZ2VubTVsRXZqcE03Q210al8tSXlya1haa1FxaE5jSGRLeEM1cjMySEcyVUp6SmRSMmFFc2xBcGhjWnRtNHJyaU1oR0xUbzdVc3FKOXAtOUhXbWxfMlVfVGY4a1BTQ3JNTkhwM0trX1JxNTlkX3hkX0tySG5USTQxV1p2QU16SXdYUHZwZ1YtMHlZakItamtUaTk2M3RxRF9lRFky |
Glenn Greenwald. I am shocked. Truly. I saw that name and I was the shock. Sho | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6R01FRkY1WXR2S0JlZEwxTFA5MmRXYVBnc2duQmRhNFF3ZkNHVXhqOGpnYzF6VVRHNFV2Nk9EMUx0TTNyM2FrcWVIcEhqTkFMSWYzeVVIS2FuZHc0RkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DNVZ2TVRUcFZhOUlaVjFOcS01cVVQWnB6T0FPVkl0Nl9BdlBoY3AzWEVPSHA0Y0xCMFJHSFZzRDFOaFpaTkZvdUhTUmNQeU03SmJEYkRjRENrLVRyM242OW4xckNpcGRMdExheWlqT195dEYxQ25nVDlRVW1KMHg0dW1mSzZES2dRV0NENnI1OWNoNlJEeTRhVTRDd3FmM3FuRkJIckYzU1FHUG1UeEo3blBPWHBqNEpyUENOdVlLWXZ2SFU5X2NI |
Not yet, but we'd love to develop one in the future! | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6ckhRNlp2NXJTM0N0V0pHT2RQdl92SmYxaDVaTVl0dFlzZjRhQktmTFN2VmdQX3FXZ3RQZGt0RFRwdFFRTHFWeEhrUjJNUHlJN0tzUFNhUlpxVUdKTUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dc1Y1LWplQnRKRzhfZ3NGUEpRZ09qQzktSHJZeFNXVFhUVTkzTTRDX2thenV1blg2ZFNnWjFEYk9nLWFkeWJ0UjU3TWVsUFp2bmloaUJJSlEzOEFDNWRKM21yRjVOS0RsajBJN0pIa1JTc2pLZTE2M0V0YzdzS0UyR3g2NHN6UDloT25kUkUtRGtTaFpFU1pZUjdIOU40SXVoUFh1TWxXRlJyaVBqLUxpWm1reGwyRzNLOWs4cnZKOXY0QWFaeTBVUWJTVmN5UmhaZzFVeVhVanFwUkx4QT09 |
Their methodology not being perfectly clear absolutely alarms me. I was hoping to talk a lot more about that topic on this subreddit than the assertion that the MSM here is just as bad as it is in Russia. I agree that we should all learn how to read the news critically, but it is only natural to try and make a tool to make this easier to do for people. This tool, though, should be a refined one because it could be dangerous. If you would like to start a conversation regarding the methodology of PropOrNot, I believe [this](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byj_1ybuSGp_YUItSlFrOFkxeFU/view) is the most up to date resource on the matter | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6NWlxQnhlcl9WUE5COG1EV2NZT1lrZ3VET2I1alBXRzRoYWhITlk3QWI4MjdNQXlxN29icm9wNUktOW5sUjBYN2l1MGJQRHRhbU1PR215YjdTWnJwS0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DR0xrcklJOWczT3pyN2RVSzdpeEduU0ZEazA2NmVpTXJiUG1iTGNPaHFacUV4MzhRaE1acDJ2V3lXdl8zQmN5ejBBcmtwajZGWXZKRmVaUDNKbE9MR3c1QUdoQWpfTzZyYzhqWU1pbDU0eTB5VkFZRUs0Vl9nV0txNzQ5ZmYyLTNTQ0FXU2JSVS1ldW5PbW0wbEtMNzJZeXFOU0FaUDQ0SXRFbW8ySkV1eVI0N3dhRXg0X2MwR2lwYkNkSVY4VXB0 |
That is correct. We are not funded by anyone, are non-partisan, and are completely independent.
Also: Well put. Cheers! | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Y09qVkFFcklnRjdqVEs1ZWdjemtDTml6VFNMam5CckJ5SWw5X0FYcXdJMzFDVVZJbmlyS0pNaFZrN0NPR25wLVNfb21POXh4Y0VlaERhMDBEM0FTelE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DU3YxTmdMWHVreDRqdGJRcWNvNGc5Q1lnTmJrdXpkaXp6Vmg0TlpHdkc0WGhIX25PVVFqRHFza0JtREJYQWdNM0FBZGF5QzNPUi0tQ1BneHA4MWt3UnBSQUhqNlpoVFJ5TWpjc2pCT2lSTTVZN0paZXpqNTZZTW40SzFTNE1RNy1ZNzZsblVBU0F0Q1Q5QWhWS0hvNHBFMWNrdDZLS2NLV2o3RHlTYmhESnA0LTFKYTBoYzR4cXgyVFJsSE52eWZN |
lol.
double lol.
triple lol.
| r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6MnJ5RGl4RDBhVTdWQUlqOEhHN0JyLTgycmJWZW9JOWJSQnhHck9NdTFiRGhiVU1zXy1Cby1EVUtMYlc2eExlakVDS1hPUnNOZm1hRmRmT2UtYl9OT2FOaUxOU1pPTG1mOGtLMVBnT3dGSkk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DOUN0dXlfRHJwTjAzd0xwUXU0WlhibS00cVVzRHI3WGdYcHVVZi1FbFMyTDJxb1Fyc2FKeU42eWdzTXplMkpzbHMzSHB2UlZwS0RhcFhrQ2k2VmU2bVo2cFYwdDluUWxmMTI3OGVWTmsxTkllR2FYUF9BVHhwMkQ0S2lPMno5RVNiS3JhSTRyZnVwQW95eGRSODhfSUUyMWdyM284RWQtVTRhc3NmMWNxTl84X3ViWmo4LUZtSGJpUWJ5OU5aT1NBYUJYUW1Ed0tnZGdCMTJ4V01Ccm92dz09 |
[You Funny Bruh](http://i.imgur.com/jsdZef4.gifv) | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6SXdxN2hwcms0bXRrcTVUSEs0UnkyeWd1cGhoMHQtU1Q2dzF4MDBqcElxS1h1dG5hRTVja0U0WWVEclp3VVhyaGhBMGg1a2hHMmlWbXM5SXMzbWdIQUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRUFaTnQ3S2RVdFdIa2hQblZzeXlIUGl6SVNjRjVIOS1BaDQ2MFFLSDhoQjRkZ0lSdFM4YmxWcl95OHdvZE9pMlgwNVlVT0N5RGVUNG1FV1l4NUFnWXMwdnNsUFZ0NzViZWMtX3RVS1h6LTN0UUk0aVZYaG1sMmk0QjBpVENqTFItRFBOVjNYY1VIWlY4X2VtWW42MC1XMEhaMDlGdFo4Yk42OVJoVWxaUFRGNUwxV29uRzVfd243RnI4d04yXzF3VzJTSGJRMXR5NkpDZnRqblRENldhQT09 |
yeah dude no one's buying your bullshit.
it's ridiculous.
You should stop responding it's going to come back to you. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6Zk1uNkZWclNzQmxHUTBLbXBkaXBkUjlpZGdtRm5vZGk3c3F4c2t3WmEtd05WVGVYckRaLVA1QlNPZDRwS2o2N003bU5sRkFLSHhBcVRiQzIyNlFFek9ubGszcV8zQXFYRm5ycGVDdHA2VFU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DRktPVENUMWphNGwxTU5HU0tVMkUyRDVDSlBLclJla3F2aHpKUGp0MkNVSnNETloybWxHVndfSElEOEF3WXpiVEJHcmZQUm50N3ZzNVlOVEwxYmtaMFN1SGo4U21vdFRyUG9PRlVwVVdIbjFqbXFhWXJEdHdidEVlTGNfSVhZbTB0MjRvVDdKcmFjOFBGQ3ByZm1iWW9TRFdLM2RWMVo1TWtLdXV0Z05xZnprbTBRdUhSVXpTNkdiMi1jMllGeGVl |
Completely understandable, I believe suspicion about PropOrNot is warranted. Some people, though, have devolved from a dialogue about the workings of the bot into a dialogue about how MSM needs tags too (not a useless dialogue, but not the one I was looking for).
EDIT: clarity | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6YjZMUEQzR3dRRVE3cEJHZVZUYl93TFpLNDFIajR4S2ZOYXpPZWhxZlJjd0JkYzFXWUU3RUhMY0ktMl94QkxiaW9QTVlYNE9zclkzSk9NOFJYTDJQdkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DVTRJRzdlUTJtUXUyQnFRdHAzdTl0aW5kSmhlaXpnUDJSek05MTNpTTQxNjJOdW1QN1dXTmdvWGVLb0xtdVVSbXJqaVFkallXMnBneTBFZXYxQlQwbDAyZFdLbXNBNWRsZDJmdUs5NFY0RXRxNGJES3pLRjdsbXBDTXNLdTFMejVZYUg5SFNtYUdNd3JnbXB0RW1BMXI4ZkUzcktCNHV5OHNiSlRaNlRjS2NDcUMzRXlHVFExVlZ2Yzl2UThDZk1B |
What about the methodology seems unclear? If it's unclear to you it may be unclear to others as well, and we might want to update our site accordingly. Constructive suggestions and feedback are always appreciated. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6LVdCN1YzalZWRTdyNjhZTlM0QWN6NjFwQ1JzanJ4NWNraWVOVVFhU084MGFiamJTTkdvenYyNS1Ba0tfWU0zSzFkNTFOVTFfZDRCU1FaM1dURUNaMmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DdUFKTFJOYUlOSldrTjl0MFNqV2VLVV9SSkhXbUlvT0x1R1NWMzU0aXdjaW84MlphTWU3WWp2Q2Y1cnNBSHdGOTdMc3JSVzBPQ1ZFODN2ZEpKRXh4cGw0VUpoX1UtWFBhb2FpXzBOVlNnMXZJa2FoOVY5T2ZKSTFhQTV1T0dKUDNLdXdNamk4dElYcTZiTGpsVkExVTBvVXVJZkc4eFZzLWJKVno5NFlCUm03a3RkeWI2SnJnZWJydU5oaGFONVJF |
Ah, I see where you are coming from. The bot definitely only labels sources as "bad" so the inference could then be made that the rest of them are good. Personally, if I were to use the extension (probably won't TBH) it would not deter me from reading any article or guide me to any other one. Instead, I would simply read the flagged articles with a more skeptical eye because the chances of it containing fake Russian propaganda are higher than on a normal site. So I can see the utility of the bot, but I can also see how it could be harmful to the free dissemination of information. I think PropOrNot's biggest downfall (I don't see this bot ever reaching success) was making these accusations too early. Even if the accusations could be 100% backed up, coming out before the evidence is ready undermines the validity of the bot. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6SUQwWE53QzhaUmIwUnk4enVLbzc4Tk5xWlkxRWRJVE4yNzR0MU1RYkc4M0pKelpROHJLNjZNbVIydmljcW44VV9NY0VuWENneGtmOWtVSlF6eEhCRWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DbFd2UXRZVFdia01JV1lWQTdoQjZwU1YxekdQVVlBWTRicGM1R2RfaTlVWFY5VkpNNTNUMm5ZTTlYY1BiMWc1dnY5Ykd1TzNoRFJUampmdk04dU12TWZLQXNQR2FWT01uQ3hHaG9EdHAzNU13MDBBcWp6b2VKMnB2VFhfZlExNS1lVkQxeTVUdVBrR2hURDNmRDJzTDA3b0tGNW83MENLMThOWW9YY0xfa0NDTWpPR2dlemFOamlzbjlmVU5FOTVG |
By highlighting a list of unapproved sources, you tacitly approve others.
In fact on your website you explicitly state the following:
>We suggest NPR, the BBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed, VICE, etc
The first two are literally state-sponsored news, and both WaPo and NYT were caught colluding with Hillary Clinton (who also happens to bang the Russian war drums, [while profiting from Russia's Uranium One](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html)). You end the list with two sources that most professors would chastise you for citing in a paper.
>Finally, we are not funded by anyone. We are completely independent.
So why the focus on Russian propaganda? Why not start a project that identifies and highlights *all* government propaganda? Why do you list a US and UK state-sponsored news orgs as your first two examples of "unbiased" sources?
Do you understand why some Americans might accuse you of having ulterior motives besides being a "group of volunteers"? How do you respond to accusations that your anonymous group is actually US sponsored? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6N0l3cFVWM2NQLVlaam1FNnlWMUlWNUlTUzdNdjNkcEZyREEzTjR5b1hKbFV1dE1uSmw3bWtHY1hEMndSbTlrbTU1QXZ0S2FlYlloYzl1OUVtMWoxeVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Dck1DNll1R2VuSmVJcTEzdllRWkgtTmNsYXNkaVM3dVNFYmU3YUk4M1BDOFFCNHJYRVJCTm9LcjZUWWtsQWhzR1ZZMVBnUEY3SU1sSnZyY01IX21SdzI4bUNvV1J6WlNiNEphX21vNy1rS1gxY1pFaHM4LXFvOGR4dWhMcnVLTlZORzB3SG54dGQ1YlBRdXIxcndmd2RnVmVQcVoyQkh5ODgzM0I4ZklHWVRSQllFVzdnNHNJZy1RcXdmSlRsT1QySUdFYzRTMGFlMjByTEtPdW5Sd2d0dz09 |
Seriously, this PsyOp died in infancy. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6SVBLQWNxaUtQdUhYZlVLQThmM0FNQjY5RHBEaDduNzBtZnBnZXFFTFo3SjRFREtIbkhsNzhFTnFEcUU5VU05T3lyUkRrdktnbVhRWFhqSGpDM3dCanc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DT2RndTg2ODE3dkhjdGdBOGJkd25lTnpOUEY0QkpfNF9TUTVaMG1uNkFJNi1NZGV3U19WSkpiRXhfUmVDNEI5UkxCbVdhQ0tuaWpYMjBCQmxITGUwdnlab051RFFRLUxDc0xHMzN1SXFueFNVTXlvbnliU0phOFA4NGowWmlORWZlQkQ5SXlCRDFFX01Qcl95U09YRDRVcW92SURRZ1JuZHIxcU05THMxRVVhanlNUG9kRGFzQW5SbXJjYm1sZVlI |
My main complaint would be that you have not published the results of going through your methodology for all of the sites on your list (maybe you have and I have just not seen it). I think doing so would allow all of the people that are saying "(insert favorite non-MSM site here) is on the list, but I trust them!" to see exactly why that site made the list. In my mind it would be similar to the case studies which you have posted but there would be one for every site on the list (I understand this is a daunting task, which is why I suggest elsewhere that perhaps you guys came forward with your information too early). Thank you so much for replying, though! In my mind, credibility is added when you are willing to listen to criticism. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6RmcxWS1sUlVqaDZGU3RXWm9HZzNHSmxJdGJpbFVKNlk1eHo2WUthRk5IOWM5dzg0TkhBbHpPcG55QjBEVjdKWXp3bERUOV9MV3VkMzdoTTItVHA0WXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9Da1Q3ZV9wRGRQb093ZkFMN0lpTTNVM0kyX3I0MGV4cnZ3Z3MyaDluYnl0cEVpd2dFRFhMV3NpV2N2S0hJSkZFNXBZeUw0dmZVRnl3ODRNTHBzMllxRjZHTnAtSEllSThuWURiQ0EzUFVnamVsUmJVMnVuQkpHb0tWbkdkcEpOcjBFaTZwNXNqaVQ4TjFJMzcyWEpLTm5yXzJDNnRud2hfTGxSMHJsMDVrbVlxWTluMWhaaXVtWmtmYXlkMXdxS25U |
Cold War Think Tank trying to start conflicts in order to gain funding? | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6OEdjNjZRaERhcFFGRnM3c2VqUGxDcFk0bUpGMEZQZnoyNlFlcjVIa2NDci1ZZ1ZNUmNwVFZDX3MybnktSWJqNS1TeUktSHI5b3VRaWxMVDVIOHZDSkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DS3BVaS0yM0xYREZ0Q1JCRmdfWkkwQ01oeTh1QmxpOGRQWWQtb0RHczJfVlo0bnctTFJUTGUyLWI5NnU2dEkxMW5SdWdSZDRCWUpSZnRfNDFxbjVPLXQ1QUNjdU5YS2VBaWNyZTlpalVTUG5OTnV2QjY5WHBmZXhyODZiT3dydmRuV0N4Y2hvMndFSmNKdjV1ZC11dTdxUlFUcGNjY01EbWhubWotNzBxN3RPVnItXzhKNU5PZ2NRd0ItSnVXaXFr |
Not to the BS extent that the Washington Post is trying to push. Fact is there are different perspectives to world and current affairs, and the status-quos inability to recognize this and to understand other points of view is exactly why we have gotten to the point where we are in relations with countries like Russia (near catastrophic at this point).
I dont know what their end game is with this, but it shows how they are resistant to change and how they wont go out without a fight over their heavily-groomed neocon love child losing the election. | r/propornot | comment | r/PropOrNot | 2016-11-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lakx6eVhOZ3BlWW53REJTaVZfTjVJMUluc3hEemZVVVFfYUJWSnlpcnV4ZV9POUdDdTcyZmQwMGpZNy1xNUl3a1ZZTEhnQmdMbVl2Nm1pUnM0dXV6RnR3VWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm5Lak9DR2xtQ0gxX0lIejlNYXQ3Rmg0R1NhMzE1aVl2S0gwWUVUQ1dETVZNcmNDZ0lGemw1c0NkN05LNUFHUmptVjB3c0IweGRlVUpzbzl0dUg0R0xPSkxrcXB0c21kOWl0bzNEN0NIQTRzWGt2WmljSVo5Qk81YmtqazIxbDgxY0lWV0laa001anV5RGVObUJxRFV6VGpleFNtRHpLb2w1bVlBWmtGUWF3Rno1RGpFRVRjU0JyOVhrNURMSmlqQ1NOZTQ1 |
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Bittensor Subnet 13 Reddit Dataset
Dataset Summary
This dataset is part of the Bittensor Subnet 13 decentralized network, containing preprocessed Reddit data. The data is continuously updated by network miners, providing a real-time stream of Reddit content for various analytical and machine learning tasks. For more information about the dataset, please visit the official repository.
Supported Tasks
The versatility of this dataset allows researchers and data scientists to explore various aspects of social media dynamics and develop innovative applications. Users are encouraged to leverage this data creatively for their specific research or business needs. For example:
- Sentiment Analysis
- Topic Modeling
- Community Analysis
- Content Categorization
Languages
Primary language: Datasets are mostly English, but can be multilingual due to decentralized ways of creation.
Dataset Structure
Data Instances
Each instance represents a single Reddit post or comment with the following fields:
Data Fields
text(string): The main content of the Reddit post or comment.label(string): Sentiment or topic category of the content.dataType(string): Indicates whether the entry is a post or a comment.communityName(string): The name of the subreddit where the content was posted.datetime(string): The date when the content was posted or commented.username_encoded(string): An encoded version of the username to maintain user privacy.url_encoded(string): An encoded version of any URLs included in the content.
Data Splits
This dataset is continuously updated and does not have fixed splits. Users should create their own splits based on their requirements and the data's timestamp.
Dataset Creation
Source Data
Data is collected from public posts and comments on Reddit, adhering to the platform's terms of service and API usage guidelines.
Personal and Sensitive Information
All usernames and URLs are encoded to protect user privacy. The dataset does not intentionally include personal or sensitive information.
Considerations for Using the Data
Social Impact and Biases
Users should be aware of potential biases inherent in Reddit data, including demographic and content biases. This dataset reflects the content and opinions expressed on Reddit and should not be considered a representative sample of the general population.
Limitations
- Data quality may vary due to the nature of media sources.
- The dataset may contain noise, spam, or irrelevant content typical of social media platforms.
- Temporal biases may exist due to real-time collection methods.
- The dataset is limited to public subreddits and does not include private or restricted communities.
Additional Information
Licensing Information
The dataset is released under the MIT license. The use of this dataset is also subject to Reddit Terms of Use.
Citation Information
If you use this dataset in your research, please cite it as follows:
@misc{arrmlet2024datauniversereddit_dataset_36,
title={The Data Universe Datasets: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer},
author={arrmlet},
year={2024},
url={https://huggingface.co/datasets/arrmlet/reddit_dataset_36},
}
Contributions
To report issues or contribute to the dataset, please contact the miner or use the Bittensor Subnet 13 governance mechanisms.
Dataset Statistics
[This section is automatically updated]
- Total Instances: 6045799
- Date Range: 2010-04-29T00:00:00Z to 2024-11-05T00:00:00Z
- Last Updated: 2024-11-05T15:33:26Z
Data Distribution
- Posts: 2.30%
- Comments: 97.70%
Top 10 Subreddits
For full statistics, please refer to the stats.json file in the repository.
| Rank | Topic | Total Count | Average Percentage |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | r/politics | 298083 | 4.93% |
| 2 | r/AskReddit | 265693 | 4.39% |
| 3 | r/worldnews | 264373 | 4.37% |
| 4 | r/pics | 245958 | 4.07% |
| 5 | r/movies | 226855 | 3.75% |
| 6 | r/technology | 225357 | 3.73% |
| 7 | r/todayilearned | 216131 | 3.57% |
| 8 | r/mildlyinteresting | 205335 | 3.40% |
| 9 | r/Bitcoin | 198813 | 3.29% |
| 10 | r/Music | 189864 | 3.14% |
Update History
| Date | New Instances | Total Instances |
|---|---|---|
| 2024-11-05T15:33:26Z | 6045799 | 6045799 |
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