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A: Up here in Rochester, uh, we're the second cleanest metropolitan city as far as air pollution.
A: I think Grand Rapids was number one.
A: Uh, we really don't have too much of a problem as far as, uh, industry since we're pretty technologically based as far as our industry in the city here.
A: But we do have the same problem a lot of other areas up here in the northeast have
A: and that is the effects of acid rain.
coming basically from coal plants in Ohio and Illinois and Indiana.
B: Right.
B: Well, that's true.
B: Actually down here we don't have a big problem with, uh, with air pollution.
B: Mainly because we don't have anybody to to either side of us.
B: Uh, which helps out a lot as far as that goes.
B: I wouldn't even necessarily thought of that except when I lived up in Boston and up in, uh, you know,
B: debates would come up up there in Massachusetts and, you know, in that area over, uh, air pollution
B: and their attitude's, basically, well, prevailing ins, winds are to the east
B: so why should we have to worry.
A: Yeah.
A: I've, I've, uh, was in Los Angeles once
A: and that was quite a difference as far as pollution goes.
A: I mean you couldn't really see that much
A: Every once in a while we have these air inversions, the weather inversions
B: Oh, yes
B: nothing,
A: and then it gets hazy around here
A: but they're really,
A: we don't have a big problem with it.
A: I think that, uh, what most of the people here in New York state are going after right now is,
A: it's, it's the, uh, ongoing acid rain problem.
A: Especially out in the, uh, uh, Adirondack areas where, you know, the lakes are becoming, uh, changing the acidity of the lakes
A: and we're having problems now because the fish are dying and certain acidic loving plants, uh, or alkaline liking plants are not lasting anymore because the soil levels, the p H is changing as this acid rain continues to fall.
B: Right.
A: And I know that there's been battles over the states up here.
A: Uh, you know, Governor Mario going after, you know, governors of Ohio and and Indiana to fix what's going on down there.
A: I remember when I was in Florida,
A: the only problem was that it seemed like it may,
A: it wasn't really pollution, just the steamy weather <laughter>.
B: Oh absolutely,
B: yeah,
B: just muggy.
B: So, yes
B: I think,
B: yeah,
B: I think you're right.
B: Our most pollute substance down here is just water.
B: But I I, I, I think, you know, the biggest causes even then a lot of times are, uh, uh, like when I was up in Boston just all the cars.
You know, just all over the place.
A: Yeah
A: it,
B: You just got a lot of, you know, a lot of pollution from those
B: and, uh, you know, if you don't have a wind, it sticks around.
A: Oh, yeah.
A: I, you know, I was in Boston once
A: and I remembered seeing some of these things coming through at rush hour, even with the Tee.
A: Uh, just this, it looked like billions of cars massing
B: Absolutely.
A: and if they sit there and then there's nowhere for the air to go.
A: I mean, yeah, that's what's in, you know, Los Angeles is,
A: I think that's biggest problem
A: because when I was in Los Angeles for a time, it's all, you know, from Los Angeles to San Diego it's like all city.
B: Right.
A: And there's really, there's nowhere for this to be absorbed, really.
A: Uh, tree planting sometimes can handle, you know, stopping some of the air pollution and that and help
A: but if you have nowhere to do anything.
B: That's, that's very true.
B: Uh, you know, of course then when, when you're not recycling, you've got these incendiary plants and stuff, that can give you some pretty disgusting stuff going up in the atmosphere.
B: But I, you know, you've got, you've got the industry,
B: you've got that,
B: and you got the cars.
B: I think the cars are where, where it's at right now as far as pollution goes, air pollution I mean.
A: Yeah.
A: I, you know, Florida doesn't seem to be, at least maybe Miami,
A: but I, I, uh, you know,
A: Fort Lauderdale I, I don't know what the big industries are down there, uh,
A: but, you know, up here we have Kodak
B: Right.
A: and that's the worst polluter.
A: They put, uh, uh,
A: you can smell ether in the air sometimes
A: It keeps the neighborhoods happy I guess.
B: I guess so.
A: Uh, cause they clean the, uh, the lenses for cameras
A: and they, they make film here
A: and they're the worst offender
A: but it's, you know, it's under so much control.
A: You know, sulphur dioxide is the big emittant from them
A: but that's really getting under control now.
B: Right.
B: I, you know, I don't know in air what they do.
B: Uh, I, I haven't run across any major pollutants down there that I've, I've really seen a lot of, you know, about.
B: Uh, I, I know I've seen like, uh,
B: my grandparents live in Corpus Christi, Texas
B: and I know they've, there's a lot of refineries down there
B: and that, that's some pretty potent stuff they put up in the air.
B: I, but I don't know how, uh, you know,
B: there's a difference in what you can smell and what you, uh, you know, what's bad.
A: Be interesting to see when, as Mexico develops industrially whether, you know, without,