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nouamanetaziย 
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After training ๐’๐ฆ๐จ๐ฅ๐‹๐Œ๐Ÿ‘ on ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ–๐Ÿ’ ๐‡๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐ฌ for nearly a month, I've come to realize something most people overlook: ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐ซ๐š๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐œ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ž-๐จ๐ซ-๐›๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ค ๐Ÿ๐š๐œ๐ญ๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง ๐‹๐‹๐Œ ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐ . ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Everyone talks about model architecture and data quality. And yes, those matter immensely. But here's what nobody tells you: when your training run fails at 2 AM because of mysterious ๐๐‚๐‚๐‹ ๐ž๐ซ๐ซ๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ, or when your expensive GPU cluster is running at ๐Ÿ”๐ŸŽ% ๐ž๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ๐ข๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ฒ, the problem isn't your model. It's most probably a ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ž. ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ

Questions that seemed simple but had no clear answers: Why is ๐Œ๐จ๐„ ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ง ๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐๐ž๐ฅ๐ฌ? Which ๐๐‚๐‚๐‹ ๐Ÿ๐ฅ๐š๐ ๐ฌ should we actually set? How often should we checkpoint without killing throughput?

That's why we built ๐“๐ก๐ž ๐’๐ฆ๐จ๐ฅ ๐“๐ซ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐  ๐๐ฅ๐š๐ฒ๐›๐จ๐จ๐ค ๐Ÿ“–: a complete guide covering everything from model architecture and data curation to the SmolLM3 training marathon, post-training techniques, and crucially, the ๐ข๐ง๐Ÿ๐ซ๐š๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐œ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ฒ๐ž๐ซ that most teams get wrong.

We validated real vs theoretical bandwidth across the entire stack: ๐‡๐๐Œ๐Ÿ‘ ๐ก๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐Ÿ‘ ๐“๐/๐ฌ, ๐๐•๐‹๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐Ÿ’.๐ŸŽ ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ–๐Ÿ” ๐†๐/๐ฌ, ๐๐‚๐ˆ๐ž ๐†๐ž๐ง๐Ÿ’ ๐š๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’.๐Ÿ ๐†๐/๐ฌ. Then we ran collective operations across ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ– ๐†๐๐”๐ฌ (16 nodes, 8xH100s each) and measured how performance degrades at scale: all-reduce drops from ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ–๐ŸŽ ๐†๐/๐ฌ on a single node to ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ-๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ“๐ŸŽ ๐†๐/๐ฌ across 16 nodes.

If you've ever wondered why your training runs are slower than they should be, or you're planning to scale up and want to avoid expensive mistakes, this guide might save you weeks of debugging.

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐’๐ฆ๐จ๐ฅ ๐“๐ซ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐  ๐๐ฅ๐š๐ฒ๐›๐จ๐จ๐ค: https://lnkd.in/e5MKXUHS

Shared with โค๏ธ by the HuggingFace team
eliebakย 
posted an update 2 months ago
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Super excited to announce that our research team at Hugging Face will be doing an AMA on reddit r/LocalLLaMA.

Come ask any questions to the team behind SmolLM, FineWeb and more! And who knows, maybe thereโ€™ll be a shiny new release to talk about?

Thursday 4th September, 8AM-11AM PST ๐Ÿค—

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eliebakย 
posted an update 2 months ago
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Motif 2.6B tech report is pretty insane, first time i see a model with differential attention and polynorm trained at scale!

> It's trained on 2.5T of token, with a "data mixture schedule" to continuously adjust the mixture over training.
> They use WSD with a "Simple moving average" averaging the last 6 ckpt every 8B token.
> They trained on Finemath, Fineweb2, DCLM, TxT360.
> Lot of details in the finetuning data they used, for instance they used EvolKit and did some "dataset fusion" to have more compressed knowledge into the data.
> They mention they also tried Normalized GPT, QK-Norm and Cross Layer Attention.

Motif-Technologies/Motif-2.6B
eliebakย 
posted an update 4 months ago
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Kimi K2 tech report is full of gems as always. Here are my notes on it:

> MuonClip: Pretty crazy how after 70k the training stabilizes and the QK-clip is basically inactive. There is also no loss in perf with QK-clip which is not trivial at all (at small scale but with aggressive threshold). Also a cool explanation of why muon makes the logit explode in appendix E (tl;dr is that muon makes the singular value of the update matrix higher)
> Sparsity scaling laws to justify their ratio, they have a very solid training infra that allows the model to be trained at this sparsity level, they could have increased even more but as sparsity increases the training becomes less efficient.
> They diminish the number of attention heads to make it more efficient for long context since attention heads are a big bottleneck for long context. They also remove 2 of the 3 "first dense" layers in the dsv3 arch.

With the sparsity and attention heads (divided by 2) they achieve 83% increased flops compared to deepseek v3 arch at 128k.

> Data: Rephrasing is KEY. They do a lot more synthetic data generation and rephrase their corpus to have different styles, for longer documents they do it by chunk. I'm (half) surprised by the fact that ONLY 1 epoch (assuming same number of training tokens I think?) of data rephrased 10 times has better accuracy than 10 epochs of the same data rephrased once.
> They do rewriting for Math and Knowledge, for Math they apply the ShallowMath recipe and instruct the model to rephrase in a "learning note" style
> They talk about diversity and probably have some internal stuff/eval to test that, as always still a bit unclear for me how to properly measure that.

The infra is also very nice, quick summary:
> PP=16 (1F1B schedule, a bit custom), EP=16, zero1
> No FP8 computation but for storage of specific layers, selective recomputation for inexpensive block, activation offloading to CPU
loubnabnlย 
posted an update 6 months ago
eliebakย 
posted an update 8 months ago
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Google just dropped an exciting technical report for the brand-new Gemma3 model! ๐Ÿš€ Here are my personal notes highlighting the most intriguing architectural innovations, design choices, and insights from this release:

1) Architecture choices:
> No more softcaping, replace by QK-Norm
> Both Pre AND Post Norm
> Wider MLP than Qwen2.5, ~ same depth
> SWA with 5:1 and 1024 (very small and cool ablation on the paper!)
> No MLA to save KV cache, SWA do the job!

2) Long context
> Only increase the rope in the global layer (to 1M)
> Confirmation that it's harder to do long context for smol models, no 128k for the 1B
> Pretrained with 32k context? seems very high
> No yarn nor llama3 like rope extension

3) Distillation
> Only keep te first 256 logits for the teacher
> Ablation on the teacher gap (tl;dr you need some "patience" to see that using a small teacher is better)
> On policy distillation yeahh (by
@agarwl_
et al), not sure if the teacher gap behave the same here, curious if someone have more info?

4) Others
> Checkpoint with QAT, that's very cool
> RL using improve version of BOND, WARM/WARP good excuse to look at
@ramealexandre
papers
> Only use Zero3, no TP/PP if i understand correctly ?
> Training budget relatively similar than gemma2
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anton-lย 
posted an update 11 months ago
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Introducing ๐Ÿ“๐…๐ข๐ง๐ž๐Œ๐š๐ญ๐ก: the best public math pre-training dataset with 50B+ tokens!
HuggingFaceTB/finemath

Math remains challenging for LLMs and by training on FineMath we see considerable gains over other math datasets, especially on GSM8K and MATH.

We build the dataset by:
๐Ÿ› ๏ธ carefully extracting math data from Common Crawl;
๐Ÿ”Ž iteratively filtering and recalling high quality math pages using a classifier trained on synthetic annotations to identify math reasoning and deduction.

We conducted a series of ablations comparing the performance of Llama-3.2-3B-Base after continued pre-training on FineMath and observe notable gains compared to the baseline model and other public math datasets.

We hope this helps advance the performance of LLMs on math and reasoning! ๐Ÿš€
Weโ€™re also releasing all the ablation models as well as the evaluation code.

HuggingFaceTB/finemath-6763fb8f71b6439b653482c2
loubnabnlย 
posted an update 12 months ago
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Making SmolLM2 reproducible: open-sourcing our training & evaluation toolkit ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ https://github.com/huggingface/smollm/

- Pre-training code with nanotron
- Evaluation suite with lighteval
- Synthetic data generation using distilabel (powers our new SFT dataset HuggingFaceTB/smoltalk)
- Post-training scripts with TRL & the alignment handbook
- On-device tools with llama.cpp for summarization, rewriting & agents

Apache 2.0 licensed. V2 pre-training data mix coming soon!

Which other tools should we add next?