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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm inclined to believe the Democrats don't want to let a shutdown happen, have the market tank, then everyone fucking hates them basically. I hope.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Republicans own congress and the white house. So if the shutdown occurs, it'll be on their watch.
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## Speaker_0: ##
[OP](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3CuScB4KUOI/hqdefault.jpg)
## Speaker_1: ##
So I knock on her door and I say CARRRROLLLLL, CAAAAAARRROL
## Walls1337bot: ##
And you know what... There is no Carol in HR... This whole place is a ghost town!
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## Speaker_0: ##
OP is against for the attending English class
## Walls1337bot: ##
Well put
## Speaker_1: ##
Well put
## Walls1337bot: ##
Well put
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## Speaker_0: ##
Has any exec gone this far off the deep end before publicly?
## Speaker_1: ##
Ya
Patrick Byrne from Overstock. Actually I see the similarities between him and Musk in terms of raging about short sellers and posting on social networks.
McAfee has had his moments
Also the Microstrategy guy is said to have done some wackiness.
## Walls1337bot: ##
McAfee is another fucking order of magnitude crazier than Musk. Elon’s nutty but McAfee is a dangerous human being with some bona fide issues.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Ban this guy if he doesn't all in snap calls tomorrow
## Speaker_1: ##
Imagine how fucking depressed this sub will be if snap goes up and everyone bought puts.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Honestly only one of three things will happen:
1. SNAP tanks and my puts tenbag my portfolio. I pull all the money out and uninstall RH.
2. SNAP tanks and somehow my puts stay where they are at a healthy two digit percentage loss overall. I pull all the money out and uninstall RH.
3. SNAP moons and puts zero out my portfolio. I uninstall RH.
## Speaker_2: ##
Next week:
1. Reinstall RH, depositing more than you withdrew before uninstalling. All in yolo FD.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Third time's a charm, right?
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Why would you even bother to buy 6 shares to begin with.
## Speaker_0: ##
It's commission free.
Edit: I just spoke with the guy. He bought 6 Berkshire Hathaway A shares. That's over a million dollars. Peace.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Who cares. What are you going to do with a $100 trade?
Even if it doubles what is that extra $100 really going to do for anyone?
A lot of these RH users are pretty much dicking around thinking they can day trade their way to hundreds of thousands of dollars when they should be figuring how to improve their income situation.
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## Speaker_0: ##
How? I had this on top of my puts list for today...
## Walls1337bot: ##
consumer staples are dope as fuck in bear markets. basic 101 knowledge
## Speaker_0: ##
Yes but still this is such a bad company. I was just hating, no logic...
## Walls1337bot: ##
people buy soup still
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## Speaker_0: ##
Nice! Go from the big put to the big call
## Walls1337bot: ##
never get emotional with stocks. just follow the moola!
## Speaker_1: ##
I don't think there's any moola to be found here my friend, this puppy looks like it's going all the way to $150. I don't even have hope for my 9/7 calls but it'd be great if we're both eating tendies soon enough here
## Walls1337bot: ##
id disagree i can't see this falling lower than $163. Already has seen massive sell off and I doubt many are shorting now. potential upside higher than downside in the next 2 weeks imo. Institutions are gonna start piling back in even with the downgrades soon.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Can you ELI5 at all the stuff im looking at?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Have you heard of line rider? It’s basically a guy on a sled who rides the map or “chart/graph” you make for him. If it’s too intense of a “chart/graph” he dies.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Robinhood and /r/rstocks
## Speaker_1: ##
Name a shittier duo
## Speaker_2: ##
David Ortiz and Steroids?
## Speaker_1: ##
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Hillary Clinton and an email server?
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## Speaker_0: ##
How exactly are you going to make any company money with your Anthropology degree?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Cultural Resource Management (CRM) aka pejoratively as "Shovel Bumming" is the primary way. The vast majority of anthropology professionals in the US are contract archaeologists who work for CRM companies. Their work is predicated on Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966. The work is grueling, ephemeral, and project based. 90% of the job consists of starting the day before dawn, hiking into the woods/desert/mountains, digging holes in the ground every 20 meters, pushing dirt through a screen one carries and repeating this process until you've questioned the validity of needing a degree for conducting said work. I would advise anyone pursuing an anthro degree to cross train in coding and/or GIS so you can pivot to another industry once you realize being a shovel bum is a downtrodden lifestyle. It only took me ten years, two degrees, and $50k in student loan debt to realize this for myself.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Even now people are talking about buying the dip.
## Speaker_1: ##
Literally what I'm doing. You would be too if you were smart (we know you aren't tho). Go buy more MU calls.
## Speaker_2: ##
It's like they have no idea that production is steadily over 5k/week. I actually don't think Musk matters that much to Tesla anymore. We could probably fire him and be better off long term. I can't imagine he's actually contributing very much with all that "work" he's doing.
## Speaker_3: ##
If you do the math it's more towards 6 or 7k/week...
## Speaker_4: ##
It's so funny to me you're getting downvoted for posting rough estimates that are confirmed by most production trackers out there.
## Speaker_5: ##
It's not production volume that's the question. It's quality control and cashflow.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You mean the car company with the number one ratings for customer approval and the cashflow that is, unsurprisingly, turning around?
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## Speaker_0: ##
No such thing as too many yachts
## Walls1337bot: ##
As a smart man once said,
> "Too much money ain't enough money" - *Lil Wayne*
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## Speaker_0: ##
-407 on the Dow now. Yikes
## Walls1337bot: ##
Alexa play despacito
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## Speaker_0: ##
Ugh. I don’t know. I mean I did stop by the other week and used their giant touchscreen ordering kiosks.
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They were slow but I didn’t have to repeat myself or speak Spanish to get my order taken (your mileage may vary).
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Overall the experience was smooth other than the small lag. As a doctor I worry about the hygienic aspect of touching a screen to order (especially when out late night)
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The workers there all hated those things.
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I guess I am like 60/40
## Speaker_1: ##
If you touched the door handle or literally anything else in the building it doesn’t matter what’s on the screen.
## Speaker_0: ##
Yeah? I disagree. Professionally.
Had a patient get pneumonia from a fucking styrofoam cup.
## Speaker_2: ##
How would you know where it came from
## Speaker_0: ##
Process of elimination and testing aka we watched video and watched for people who don’t scrub in/out with isolated patients. Then test them as well.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Listen Dr. Dipshit, we don't need your science or "process of elimination" snake oil here.
If you got a PhD and decided to treat people instead of genetically engineer taco bell meat that is your mistake. I'm not going to sit around and have you tell me that I have to wash my hands literally every time I use the restroom.
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## Speaker_0: ##
In the next recession
## Walls1337bot: ##
This guy gets it.
Long fngd 2020.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm stuck at a Christmas party with my in laws and their coworkers for the last 3 hours. I'm on my 5th jack Daniel's single barrel old fashioned and I'm ready to die. I wish I could be losing money to Mr. Market right now. If you are reading this send help.
## Speaker_1: ##
I'll do you one better. I'm still kinda hung over from last night at 21st amendment and I'm at my in laws who are Mormon so no drinking or coffee. I'm pretty much hanging out with you guys while I avoid everyone else.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You should have filled your pockets with the shot sized bottles before going.
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## Speaker_0: ##
The real MVP.
EDIT: Is there a resource for seeing an ETF and its underlying in an easy to read chart with lots of colors and cartoon characters?
## Walls1337bot: ##
I'm currently working on a series of trading-related children's books, featuring Gary the Gay Goose.
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## Speaker_0: ##
This will be the biggest IPO of all time, I wish I could buy stock at their current valuation.
## Walls1337bot: ##
hey im lazy, wats der valuation
edit: *fuuuuuck*
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## Speaker_0: ##
[As an Australian during winter](https://i.imgur.com/UHnlrWd.mp4)
The queue for early access to RobinHood here has been going for 3 years. Come on you cunts!
Incidentally, are there any RH alternatives for Aussies? Found something called Stake, but it's literally a squarespace website which makes me seriously question its clout.
## Speaker_1: ##
Stake is pretty good until you covert some AUD to USD and have a fucking heart attack.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah don't do that. Send the money to something like Transferwise and transfer directly from USD to USD via transferwise:
[https://stakeshop.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/35000016507-can-i-transfer-usd-directly-to-my-usd-account-](https://stakeshop.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/35000016507-can-i-transfer-usd-directly-to-my-usd-account-)
[https://transferwise.com/](https://transferwise.com/)
But you'll still get the shaft when you withdraw as you can only withdraw by converting USD to AUD with them.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I dont think i've ever wanted a company to go down in flames as much as Tesla. The Elon dick riding is real on reddit
## Speaker_1: ##
Agreed. It's the very definition of a cult of personality. The weird thing is, when you voice an opinion to that end on WSB, you have a 50/50 chance of getting upvoted to the top or downvoted to the basement.
## Walls1337bot: ##
There's a cult alright -- I just read a thread about how Porsche was going to eat Tesla's lunch. I pointed out that Porsche can't even get batteries right now and that they were buying them retail from Bosch, and Bosch said "fuck this, we're out of the battery business!"
I was downvoted. Because somehow *tesla* has a cult. I haven't seen so many WSB'ers with dicks in their hands since MU.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Holy shit, $6 a gallon? You commies produce more oil than you use, how the hell is it so high?. Whatever, thanks for giving my state ~$2.70 a Gallon gas.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Idk if Canada has refinery , other wise it still has to ship it to the us
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## Speaker_0: ##
I hate this stock. Still short 300 shares @9.85. This company is garbage but it keeps going up....
## Speaker_1: ##
WSB at it's finest. Short the bottom, buy the top.
## Speaker_0: ##
I mean I know there is this whole AMD circlejerk here but honestly the company is 10% shorted. It's gone up 300% over 12 months with really nothing to justify it other than it barely managed to escape bankruptcy. It's not like all of my money is going to maintaining margin on an AMD short position. I can ride this out for a while after the hype without fear of a margin call. One fuckup by AMD and they will go into a death spiral. I expect them to settle somewhere around $5-7/share.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I mean, okay, but /u/touch_down_syndrome was pointing out you waited as it fell from 12.07 all the way to 9.85 before getting in.
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## Speaker_0: ##
The best part is that he thinks $500k is enough money for a professional to be drooling over
## Walls1337bot: ##
Mmm midsized corp payroll ����good shit
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## Speaker_0: ##
Aight yo I needed that laugh on this red day
## Walls1337bot: ##
Most of my portfolio is still green and it's making me super nervous seeing everyone talking about their reds
## Speaker_1: ##
Well then sell ya dingus
## Walls1337bot: ##
Oh shit ur rite
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## Speaker_0: ##
Well looks like I have a gambling problem then
## Speaker_1: ##
You and the rest of this subreddit except that guy who went balls deep on Chegg early on.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Posting that here was the kiss of death for chegg stock
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Everyone else got their puts in before the toys-r-us news came out, welcome to the party my man
## Speaker_0: ##
Really? Because i haven’t heard a non shit post about it. Thanks for the welcome
## Walls1337bot: ##
To be fair, you *are* on WSB, expecting something else except shitposts is unreasonable
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## Speaker_0: ##
It's like one of those Dragon Ball Z baddies that takes 55 episodes to kill. Just fucking die already.
## Walls1337bot: ##
This isn’t even its final form.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Sacrificing a virgin lamb in the name of EIA to bring us 100M barrel surplus.
## Walls1337bot: ##
And hopefully this week a surplus actually leads to a drop in oil, instead of strengthening a mother fucking resurgence that makes absolutely no god damn sense
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## Speaker_0: ##
The feds know way more. They just prioritize differently. Give the serfs just enough to keep them from rioting but always look out for the true. Masters. If you wonder who they are it’s usually the people you are not allowed to criticize.
Based on the comments it appears the Fed is run by
Obese feminist children with leukemia who may or may not be that guys Mom.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> If you wonder who they are it’s usually the people you are not allowed to criticize.
Fuck... Mommy?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Money isn't your problem. Look at your history: you're 20 years old, paying prostitutes for fake relationships, using hard drugs, losing all your cash on gambling. While you might be in good company here, that's all symptoms of serious sickness.
Your head's not on right. Forget about money and focus on that first. Because even if you get all your money back, and millions more, you're still living wrong, where that road won't go anywhere useful.
What you need to realize and drill into your every waking moment, is that **meaningless pleasure is worthless**.
* **Prostitutes** make me feel good like I'm winning *sexually*.
* **Drugs** make me feel good like I'm winning *happily*.
* **Gambling** makes me feel good like I'm winning *financially*.
Sex, bliss, money; it's all basic desires. We feel good when we're winning in life. We seek those pleasures, to win in life.
But you can stimulate them without winning using tricks that are actually losing.
* **Prostitutes** don't make babies or cook you food.
* **Drugs** don't cure the pain only temporarily mask it.
* **Gambling** doesn't produce anything but debt.
You're losing. You have an F on your test, but added a line to make it an A, and it felt good for a moment, until you see it's meaningless and you're still a failure.
The solution is to realize that stimulation, and feeling pleasure, is worthless if it has no real meaning.
Scoring with a chick doesn't count when you pay her. Feeling euphoric doesn't count when it's from a drug. Getting rich doesn't count if you didn't produce anything of value.
You've got it twisted. If you can't realize this truth, you'll chase empty stimulants to your death, and nobody will care because you weren't valuable anyways.
Do something real. Losing some money doesn't mean anything. I'm down around that much, and it's not depressing at all, because I know what matters. I'm building things, and that money is nothing but some play cash. What I build is what has value, because of its utility in helping people improve their life in practical ways.
I'm not paying for sex, or hitting it quick off an app. That's just distraction. If you want a woman, you work to get the resources to invite her into a real home, where you provide her with serious value. You can get your seconds of orgasm alone, without messing around wasting your time and money chasing cheap tricks.
I'm not gambling with anything I can't afford to lose. I don't pretend it's anything but pointless gambling, and don't blame myself when a trade turns red. If I make some gains, I don't pretend it means I'm skilled or valuable, it's just stupid luck, and meaningless money. I focus on building true value from real practical business.
If you can't get it straight, at least educate yourself on the likely [conclusion](http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods), and take steps not to mess that up, because you don't want to scar someone for life and mess them up too. But you should be able to figure this out, and realize:
Meaningless pleasure is worthless.
The way you know if it's meaningful or not, is to pretend there's no pleasure, and see if there's any other value. If you couldn't orgasm, or feel pleasure from a woman, what use would the whore be? If you couldn't get high, what use would the drugs be? If you don't have any real business needs for lots of money, then what point is it to be rich?
Pleasure is only worth something when it means something; when it has true practical utility. Find things you can do to stimulate yourself that way.
Like if you clean someone's gutters, and they pay you $20, you can feel good about that gain, because you did something useful. If you take a girl out and she kisses you because she likes you, and you have a future together, you can feel good because that could be your wife. If you exercise every day for months and feel bliss because you're healthy, then that's real.
You're not real. You're a cheater, cheating yourself. Recognize true value, and chase that, not empty thrills.
## Speaker_1: ##
I wanna suck your dick.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Aaaand we're back
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## Speaker_0: ##
Post your trades.
And yes it really is this easy, that's why most of us have yachts.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah we all have fat yachts and a team of interns trained in the art of the succsucc
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## Speaker_0: ##
I say $AMD if you must pick one, but its better to play both.
Despite the love here for $MU, they make subpar memory chips. Gpus with micron memory are about 5% slower than sk hynix or samsung models.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Mods, can you ban this faggot?
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## Speaker_0: ##
You'd need roughly 32 trades each with a 20% return. Compound interest buddy.
## Speaker_1: ##
Id rather cut it down to like 3 trades, how many percents do need now?
## Walls1337bot: ##
3 doesn't make sense efficiently, 4 trades is the sweet spot.
http://imgur.com/a/AE2fZ
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Okay... literally a tweet is moving it 20%...? I think this might be a good shorting opportunity. Next scary market day, this thing should tank... right?
## Speaker_0: ##
It's actually probably a great buy down here at $12-13. Given back all the gains after Oprah got in, and still trading at P/E of around 15x it's still priced relatively well. I would be a buyer here.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Probably a good decision, I can't remember the last time I picked a call correctly
Still, my balls are tingling at the thought of shorting so I'm at peace with my choice and with all of the money I am going to lose
## Speaker_0: ##
My reasoning is if you wanted to short this stock, ya shoulda done it at $28. Not down here at $12.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Good point. Next time ill use my crystal ball to determine the top so I can start shorting a stock there. You know, instead of shorting a stock that is up **20%** because some fat fuck lost weight; since that is totally a reasonable reaction
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## Speaker_0: ##
mod was removed for this post
## Speaker_1: ##
Wow you removed my mod based on what some random dumbfuck said. Check his post it wasn’t even me, it was automod shit.
Also: suck my ass
Edit: https://imgur.com/a/Rit1qqZ
That’s the dumbass’s shit
## Speaker_2: ##
Lmao a mod for a subreddit about crazy investment gambles whining about stealing memes. This is like peak white people shit
## Walls1337bot: ##
> investment
> gambles
This is the only place where those two can be the same thing lmao
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## Speaker_0: ##
Only pleebs with shitty jobs get micromanaged.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Now that's a fag
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## Speaker_0: ##
You still have your plasma hedges and futures. Go hit the local plasma bank, take some profits,and get back into the market
## Speaker_1: ##
I donated plasma for beer money in college and now I’ll donate plasma for options funding. Great idea!
## Walls1337bot: ##
[You](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/itsalwayssunny/images/0/08/Frank_Retires_%28promo%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20150215184838) in 48 hours.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Please don't start memeing the only company I have calls on. Thanks
## Walls1337bot: ##
I have absolutely no idea why it’s been selling off. They are gonna smash it with micro transactions on earnings. It’s just the sort of thing they can’t advertise normally.
If they come out and say “we added 50 way to steal your kid’s money” normally, that would be bad (look at EA with their BS response about that Star Wars game). But in earnings they will smash it.
Source: bagholder
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## Speaker_0: ##
I wonder if it'll be an actual exchange or just cash settled.
## Speaker_1: ##
Cash settled if they are going for 0 comissions. With their customer base being as bright as a dark hole they could actually make a lot of money
## Walls1337bot: ##
"dark hole"
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## Speaker_0: ##
No one here knows the relevance of IV, you think they know what the fuck the implications of delta are?
## Speaker_1: ##
holy shit, you're right. Then how do you know how far OTM to choose the strike?
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I've only ever sold verticals, so IV, delta, and theta were always huge in choosing a profitable trade.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I usually look at the graph, think hmmm... If this goes like I think the stock will be here tomorrow. Then I buy calls/puts that RH says break even around there.
Then the stock goes the opposite and I lose money. Pretty straightforward approach actually.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Down 71k (10.2%) as of 2:26 pm....I'm drinking shitty whiskey tonight.
Edit: [Since someone will ask](https://imgur.com/ObBGb1I)
## Speaker_1: ##
At what point do we tell our significant others what we’ve done today
## Speaker_0: ##
She'll get the notification. I dumped the cash reserve (dip money) form her Roth into it at -8%. Fortunately my wife doesn't bat an eye at obscene numbers like this. Otherwise I'd be staying in a Holiday Inn Express tonight.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Look at dis guy that can afford a holiday inn express. The rest of us are at motel 6
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## Speaker_0: ##
Take the loss now. You only have one day until expiration, and it will take a fucking serious crash just to make your options move. Even if the SPX doesn't move, you'll just keep losing more money as time goes on until it's worthless. I don't remember which greek it is, but every tick counts for basically nothing because you're this close to expiration.
It sucks to stare at that much and realize that it's all gone. I haven't lost as much as you, but I've stared at 6 digits and was praying for a comeback also. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up and accept that you were wrong on this one -- at least selling now will recover SOMETHING instead of slowly watching it die.
## Speaker_1: ##
I'm not hoping for a 100k gain just like make another 35k so I recoup my initial investment.... is it pointless to wait?
## Speaker_1: ##
Yesterday I was at 130k total value for a min but fuck me.... fuk
## Speaker_0: ##
forget about breaking even or any of that shit.
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Imagine this is a completely new trade:
Would you open SPX 2635 Puts that expire tomorrow with brand new money? Too risky or seems like it has a chance? If too risky, then why is your good money still in it?
There are better lottery ticket plays out there. Don't be dumb with the money you have left.
## Speaker_1: ##
This is book worthy
## Walls1337bot: ##
If you had bothered to read a book on investing you might have already heard it.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Everyone is so convinced we're going to continue lower, like it's a given. It isn't, no matter how obvious it may seem. Everything is oversold right now. We could easily have the same sort of reversal we did after the August downturn.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You are still looking at it from a micro perspective. Pan out man.. Not oversold
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## Speaker_0: ##
What kind of plays have you been making? Selling naked calls?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yes, shorting naked calls is a pretty frequent play. Usually it's a proxy for shorting the stock directly, which can often be cheaper in the case of hard-to-borrow stocks. I never do earnings plays or spreads, they are all either directional bets on a specific stock or short calls on decaying instruments like JNUG and JDST.
## Speaker_1: ##
I would imagine any edge due to the decaying nature of those instruments would be priced efficiently by the options market, any thoughts on that one?
## Walls1337bot: ##
I could probably write pages on this topic, but I'll try to sum up my thoughts in just a few sentences.
I doubt that the options are priced efficiently based on the weighted average of their terminal values. To just throw a random number out there, I would expect that for every $100 in options I sell, less than $50 will be eventually paid out. Now I'm not trying to argue that the market makers are dumb and are just handing out free money. Rather I think they are able to hedge away that long-term decay risk and in the end I just end up betting against the long-term holders of the underlying, who in the aggregate always lose.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Wow he responds "good" and you all praise him?!
OP is a faggot.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Just because I fucked your dad doesn't mean I'm gay. It means I'm adventurous.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm legitimately panicking for the first time since I started "investing" almost two years ago.
This looks BAD.
From a TA perspective, we've established a clear downward trend; mentally this makes investors more pessimistic about their positions. Over the past few trading days we've established a pattern that predicts one more gap down before a bullish reversal - but that one more gap down could be big enough to break through some significant resistance points and we could spiral out of control.
From a global fundamentals perspective, we've got lots of bullshit that I know nothing about going on all over the fucking place. It's one debt crisis after the other and somehow we've been pretending that the US is immune to all this shit. Euro and China are the big ones, but we've seen lots of others come and go from the headlines, somebody should have been keeping score. At some point, it actually does matter to the US economy because we do business with these places. China's government manipulation is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I stayed up late to watch what happeend in China (like most of you) hoping their market would tank and we could get the severity of this debt crisis measured a little more precisely so that the US market could adjust and move forward. I was going to average down on a few positions and wait for a bounce on Monday. But China fucked us all. They showed the world that the crisis itself is "too big to allow". I wish I figured this out on Friday, because I was just confused on Friday, I needed time to process this, and by the time I figured it out, it was well beyond too late.
Finally, from a media perspective. So many people, so many news websites, so many financial "pundits" are warning us of a bad year ahead, of inevitable doomsday. There is such a thing as a self fulfilling prophecy, and when backed up by the reality of the global fundamental situation, this feels like a perfect storm.
I'm shitting myself, for real, we're going to trip the circuit breaker tomorrow.
quick edit: now that futures are up, S&P is at 1897. Our August and October lows were both around 1871 - you drip a little bit more panic into this cum bucket of a market and the whole thing is going to spill onto the carpet and everyone's going to run out of the building screaming.
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You only need a 12500% win to break even. Easy peasy.
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Twelve and a half bagger? Cake walk bro, you know it, I know it.
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This is some wsb math
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It will also be closed Monday, Jan. 2, in observance of New Year's
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Oh no, yet again one less day for my Vanguard funds to benefit from the magic of compound interest
-- r/investing
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Now I ain’t sayin she a gold digger but...
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But I don’t see her with any r/investing niggas
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Can you enlighten me, a novice, on the difference between r/WallStreetBets and r/Investing
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It's the difference between grapes and grapefruits, bbs and Cannon balls, ping-pong balls and basketballs.
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Made a nice $40 or something today on a single SBUX FD call.
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What’s that, two venti pikes and a scone? You’ll be living the yacht life in no time. Literally no time.
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That Theranos lady looks creepy as hell. Straight out of Clockwork Orange.
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ikr? Check out [Better Blood Test Experience - Theranos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9eBFKXkKk4)
Less than a minute but it is genuinely unsettling if you don't break eye contact :o
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Her eyes are freaky as fuck, looks like she's been injecting cocaine for 3 days straight, but other than that, I mean... I still would..
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By the looks of this...the market could start going up a lot again soon
or!
it could go down more. Stay tuned.
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WRONG! It will keep going sideways.
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Pfft yeah right when has that ever happened
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Please dont meme it like SPY call on February. It is not gonna end well, when the whole WSB buying amazon FD.
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Yeah...99% of this sub can't afford AMZN FDs...
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anyone can, just keep going further OTM til you can afford it. just because its unrealistically OTM doesnt mean you cant turn around and sell it before exp. for easy 200-300% gains if AMZN gains 0.5-1% on the day, which it often does.
im actually mad right now at this post, this shit is becoming meme-level popular on fucking WSB. always the best indicator of a looming strategy crash. this shit will rek everyone doing it hard soon now that its meta.
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7k is a lot. Don't ever say it isn't. You have any idea how poor most Americans are?
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it totally is. I just see big numbers here in awe
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The dudes that play with that kind of money probably only make up 10% of this sub
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Don’t lose it all in one place now
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[Been there, done that](http://imgur.com/a/UCEbXh0)
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Wow, the perfect "L" chart pattern very cool
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why the fuck would a website ban like 70% of their own content...
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Because someone in a decisioning making spot decided to ride their moral high horse, without regard to if it was a good idea or not
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Or Apple pulled their app due to the porn... But maybe you are correct?
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Probably both are right.
Where the hell am I supposed to find my trap porn now?
God damnit tumblr
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After that sex trafficking bill got passed everyone got spooked over porn. Even the erotica writers are scrambling.
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details? i hadn't heard about that
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That bill is part of what killed the personal sections on craigslist.
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let’s be honest if that bill didn’t kill it the HIV might have
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just move the umbrella
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use the force luke
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Why is an oil based country supporting an electric car company?
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diversification
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You know how the National Enquirer would buy stories from playmates to silence them? What if the Saudis are planning something like this? Buy Tesla to make it go away? Expensive yes, but they will make more in the long run from their oil.
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Seems a lot harder than just investing in tesla for a (probably) similar result
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Which one of em do you think had more fun
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They both got to where they were going. Some faster than others.
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Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results today. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is TSLA at $360? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want TSLA to go to the moon and fix my portfolio. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought it was going to $420???? This is so fucked.
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How long have they been on the floor? I might still take them.
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You collecting pennies in front of steam rollers? Or what
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Yeah I collect pennies off the streets. Sometimes I make like $7 a week on a put spread that costs 500 in collateral. Which, is actually a huge 1.4% return in a week. But yeah I', very boring and don't tolerate losing money on paid options very well. Like to see theta decay in my favor. Then I spend my $250 a month in extra income all on Whole Foods.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Well well well.. now you see the truth about options.
Unless the stock keeps moving up and stays higher with no Down swing like you just experienced.. options decay and lose value..
It's why you sell put spreads instead of buying options..
You buy them when you know news is coming out and the stock will do a nice upswing.
You also now see why you should also sell puts and calls while you hold options..
During that dip to $219 you should sell $217 put spreads expiring on Friday while holding that longer call.
And when apple moves to $224, sell calls at $228 expiring earliest while holding that $227 call..
Anyway.. this is why buying and holding calls is a joke because any downswing makes the call lose value faster than the mods having butt sex with other men..
And that's fast.
So now you see you should only buy calls and sell options along side of them or during dips..
For the last week before they announced the new products, I said multiple times to sell put spreads on apple and that was when it was at $214-216..
Look at it now
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I'm gonna scrennshot this and read it when I'm sober.
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Omg we actually did it. Soon autism will be a global pandemic
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I'll get the vaccinations
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Which biopharm are we investing in this time?
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DNUG - dank nug inc
Trades on otcbb
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A little Berkshire for me.
Only the finest for a sophisticated faggot
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$BRK.D
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/u/thewhiterider256 he's black we can't go after him
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Black, yellow, red, green....doesn't matter. THAT is the picture a "professional" analyst decides to use for their public writing?
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we can't lynch him bruh that's just backwards
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He also framed a business owner with rape so he could take over his company
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Can you send me proof/link? Not that I don’t believe you, but that’s a bold claim.
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Sure.
[Alexander Pantages](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pantages) was the man he framed.
[Eunice Pringle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Pringle) was the girl he paid $10,000 to accuse him. She confessed on her deathbed that Kennedy framed Pantages.
Here's the whole story- https://www.cwporter.com/ytedkframed.htm
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Ah, reputable site you’ve got there. 90s HTML is the most trustworthy kind of HTML.
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Something something books and their covers.
tbf, I don't believe anything the site says can be construed as trustworthy or reputable, check out what it calls it's "main page": https://www.cwporter.com/two2.htm
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At least wait for the market to open before you start beating your dick too hard.
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But the fantasy is so much hotter than reality
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Hey for your sake I hope SPY opens at $271 and then rockets to $280 just after you sell tomorrow.
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Ok seriously wtf is up with CHGG, falls all day and is up AH basically back to today’s open, not complaining just curious why is it swinging so hard on no new news.
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I got an email from them today saying I should change my password. Probably not a good look.
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So wait... I bought into calls on Friday, and I’m now down 10%? Literally what the god damn fuck
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You bought OTM 12/7 expirations didn't you.
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You've got a $50,000 set of balls. Worst case scenario it's like you went to college at a Private University. You'll just be paying $450 a month for the next 20 years. Fuck it. Upside could be $15,000,000. Proud of you.
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What's the math on this?
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We’ll check back in a year. Good job and all, but everyone thinks they are a genius on a good day.
Bad days feel worse than good days feel good.
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I think I just played it safe. My profits were moderate. Part of me wants to invest in stocks that are shooting low in the hopes that they shoot back up and I make great profit, but I decided to stick with stable stocks to begin with.
​
I really want to invest in Big Lots & Stitch Fix.
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I amend my “check back in a year” statement.
I’ll check back in January.
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I keep telling myself that I should pick up some leaps on this and forgetting to. That was at 90 cents haha �� this is almost criminal. They send Martin shkreli to jail but this dude can hype a stock to 38 and now less than .30... even more amazing some of you bought it at 38.
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Yeah a leap is like $.08. Get it
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or you could buy the stock at $.21 and bag hold forever you know
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you can choose when to realize your loss
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First post I've seen in a long time where someone literally made enough to buy a yacht
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TIL Yachts cost 20k...
Nice play by OP though.
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Depends on the yacht, some are even cheaper than 20k. Boats aren't expensive. Just checked craigslist, some smaller / older yachts are 5K, while the newer / extremely large yachts are of course over 100K.
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Your definition of yacht does not really line up with what people here call a yacht.
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protecting US manufacturers he wants them to buy more american stuff
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So short Canada?
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i think they will make a deal
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Look at which side has the most to lose, in each of these bilateral trade relationships. It ain't the US. It never is. Trump knows this.
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The US has PLENTY to lose. Do you not think that other nations are not re-evaluating their relationships with the US as China's influence, power, and wealth continues to swell?
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This has fucked me
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you wont last long just like your girlfriend told me
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>having a gf
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All AMD lots are turning greeeeen
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AMD green?
After a positive earnings report?
This must be bizzaro world.
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i feel like its a setup for an epyc trap
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This is what filters out shitty companies from the rest. You're telling me I have to wait 6 months to find out something like MoviePass is a failure? This will make it easier for the big boys to steal my tendies.
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Agreed, the cost savings would be great for firms. But with shit like that... maybe some other regulation could be out in place requiring reporting if you dont meet certain revenue or income requirements. So companies in duress report quarterly still.
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I can't place it but there is something seriously wrong with her face.
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Eyes?
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It’s worse than just the eyes, it’s like her entire face is a textbook proof of the Uncanny Valley.
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Dolls are considered beautiful in Asia, all the girls want to be like dolls: fake contacts that makes your pupils huge, dark eye shadows, white foundations, etc.
Freaky as fuck.
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Don't forget the plastic surgery. It's almost a requirement for female pop stars in Asia.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Thoughts on BABA Dec 14 170c with this new info? Might put $30,000 into it and scale down my SPY calls.
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if you can get in, do it
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What's the retail on one of those?
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This one seems to be pre 2015 (I'm not a pro when it comes to Mercedes, pardon me if I'm wrong), so nowadays I'd say less than 90K, if it was a new one, 180k
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180k would be correct for an S63 or S600 model. This looks like an S550, which would run you around $150k-ish maxed out.
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i'm getting both faggot
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Why be a faggot like OP, when you can be Dan Bilzerian
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How to be Dan Bilzerian: Step1. Inherit money.
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They all had bad moments during that meeting. Using one soundbite to make her or anyone look dumb isn't fair to her, Trump or Grandpa Chuckie.
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I'm not trying to make her look dumb. I'm posting this clip because she almost says the economy is spiralling, and then immediately corrects herself. That self-correction is VERY telling.
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Sell. I’m also holding SPXS
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2 people on wsb go on different directions. The market will not move a dime.
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>8 hour old account
Seriously man do some goddamn homework or go ask -> r/robinhood
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I think a lot of people didn't get that half the time Shkreli was just trolling or being an Edgelord for lulz. He got railroaded.
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I was only pretending guys.
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It's just a prank bro!
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India will produce their own EVs dometically
You cant even run a business there without Indian partner
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I read that as though you need an Indian gay lover to do business there.
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https://imgur.com/gallery/sgQMJuc
I should’ve cashed out and blew everything on material items
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Shit. I could’ve bought multiple Rolex’s for what I blew on MU. They would a) be way more fun and b) could probably sell most of them in a few years and walk away cash neutral.
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I can't even imagine how Marty must feel
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Who’s Marty ?
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/u/Martymoho the original MU prophet. Turned like 200k into couple mil on MU options and has since probably lost it all.
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That’s pretty much every option players fate. That’s why I am never too salty when someone shows their massive gains cause I know this shit is addictive and they’re just gonna go bigger and bigger and eventually blow it all.
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Options and margin are a hell of a drug
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I was never able to buy options with margin lol is it just me or is that not a thing
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Options are already leveraged, so you can't buy them on margin
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Master trader Cramer says natural gas is going to the moon in 2017 what are we doing about this? All in dgaz?
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Cramer??? Inverse that shiiii
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You need to close your position immediately.
Credit Suisse has announced an Event Acceleration and they are terminating the fund.
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That escalated quickly. From the most popular play to termination in 4 trading days? Is this true?
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Hey man. Show some respect for the guy in the chair.
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Let guy bonds be guy bonds
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I think Amazon is strong and I’m a believer in Bezos. Amazon has a lot of major catalysts - among others they will soon be announcing their upcoming hq2 and they are the front runner for the $10bn DoD JEDI contract.
HOWEVER, amazon is also trading at an insane forward P/E ratio multiple and needs to correct even more until its somewhat reasonably priced. Even after this recent correction, it’s still way overpriced compared to similar stocks traded at high forward P/E ratios.
I’ll go long AMZN calls when this market settles down. So I could be waiting a long time.
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What do you think is reasonable P/E here considering this is a tech stock which always are overvalued? Curious as to which magic number solves everything for you.
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PLNT is a great long term play. I am so surprised it hasn't exploded yet.
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It’s a bitch to cancel any gym membership but I fail to see how any gym can be a good investment. Everybody hates exercise
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Im a fucking idiot. I meant PTLA. I dont know jack about PLNT
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WELP ... my calls don't expire until the end of Dec anyway.
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Oh they’ve already expired, you just don’t know it yet.
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All this is going to do is create another shell game. They pass this? You’ll be amazed how many LLCs to shield assets are formed.
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Neil cavuto has some old billionaire on Monday and asked him about all the Elizabeth warren and wealth tax ideas ... he said if someone is savvy enough to become a billionaire they are smart enough to find all the legal loopholes and aren’t going to pay any of those taxes and that he wasn’t worried at all and that he also hates warren
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They also can always just move abroad
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I hope you are prepared to surrender your citizenship. Only so much foreign income is exempt.
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https://i.imgur.com/WuzS42j.jpg
some of us have functioning autism
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You of all people should know that you don’t post gains without holdings OR totals. For all we know you made $1.25 off of $1.00.
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it was $1.75 to about tree fiddy
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34.7k Retweets
*thirty four thousand and seven hundred retweets*
Tumblr still has the crown as the dumbest website but Twitter is making serious efforts
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Those retweets are probably from the same people that call out basic Healthcare for beeing communism. Everything always has to be cheap and show an immediate visible effect in the US. Makes you sick.
Get rich or feel the breath of poverty in your neck
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Motherfucker is staying in office for 8 full years fuck off
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How do I bet against this chode? Is there a derivative for that?
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