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Human: Which rain shell? Lightheart Gear or AntiGravity Gear On the plus side for the Antigravity Gear jacket is waterproof pit zippers (LHG states theirs are not). For LHG there's a brim on the hood that maybe doesn't require a hat to be worn underneath. It seems like the previous incarnation of the AGG jacket has gotten some hate. Questions: Has anyone tried the latest AGG jacket with 70D fabric? Do the non-waterproof pit zippers on the LHG jacket actually cause anyone trouble? Thanks! Assistant: Skylight gear?	Human: Which rain shell? Lightheart Gear or AntiGravity Gear On the plus side for the Antigravity Gear jacket is waterproof pit zippers (LHG states theirs are not). For LHG there's a brim on the hood that maybe doesn't require a hat to be worn underneath. It seems like the previous incarnation of the AGG jacket has gotten some hate. Questions: Has anyone tried the latest AGG jacket with 70D fabric? Do the non-waterproof pit zippers on the LHG jacket actually cause anyone trouble? Thanks! Assistant: LHG has pockets, if that matters. i have an AGG jacket, personally, and so far i have no complaints.
Human: 3F UL Rain Poncho with sleeves - model differences? Anyone gets the differences between those models? Material and weight are the same - price differs a lot. https://www.3fultralight.com/product/3f-ul-gear-3-in-1-poncho-tarp-raincoat-groundsheet-shelter/ https://www.3fultralight.com/product/3f-ul-single-ponchon-ultralight-hiking-raincoat-outdoor-tarp-sun-shelter-15d-silicone-210t-taffeta/ Plus - how does the tarp mode even work with the sleeved ponchos? Thanks! Assistant: The differences I'm seeing are that one is rated 5000mm Water resistance for the 15D and for the 210T. The other says 3000mm Outside, and 1000mm Inside. But I can't tell if they meant for it to be for the different fabrics?	Human: 3F UL Rain Poncho with sleeves - model differences? Anyone gets the differences between those models? Material and weight are the same - price differs a lot. https://www.3fultralight.com/product/3f-ul-gear-3-in-1-poncho-tarp-raincoat-groundsheet-shelter/ https://www.3fultralight.com/product/3f-ul-single-ponchon-ultralight-hiking-raincoat-outdoor-tarp-sun-shelter-15d-silicone-210t-taffeta/ Plus - how does the tarp mode even work with the sleeved ponchos? Thanks! Assistant: Unfortunately I can't directly answer your question, but - To you or anyone else with similar questions: Make sure you know a poncho will work for you. I found them to be highly cumbersome, annoying. limiting, and incredibly poor at keeping me dry.
Human: How durable should my inflatable sleeping pad be? Last summer I purchased the Klymit x Massdrop Static V insulated inflatable mattress and after only a few weeks of use noticed a slow leak. Within a few days the mattress would no longer hold air for more than a few hours at a time. I discovered a very small hole deep into the "V" pattern of the pad which has proven to be difficult to patch. I've now removed it from my gear as I don't feel confident the repaired pad will work and I don't want to risk being SOL on a cold night in the woods. My question is this: exactly how durable are modern lightweight pads? Is this particular model known for having durability issues? I was quite careful with the mattress making sure not to have it come into contact with the ground, packing it away from any sharp objects etc. Really bummed out and wondering if this is just a fluke, user error or known quality issue? Assistant: People have reported using xlites for thru hikes without issue, but then you get some people with leaks or total failures like what redbeard posted about on youtube. Basically for the most part they're reliable but "shit happens" CCF forever	Human: How durable should my inflatable sleeping pad be? Last summer I purchased the Klymit x Massdrop Static V insulated inflatable mattress and after only a few weeks of use noticed a slow leak. Within a few days the mattress would no longer hold air for more than a few hours at a time. I discovered a very small hole deep into the "V" pattern of the pad which has proven to be difficult to patch. I've now removed it from my gear as I don't feel confident the repaired pad will work and I don't want to risk being SOL on a cold night in the woods. My question is this: exactly how durable are modern lightweight pads? Is this particular model known for having durability issues? I was quite careful with the mattress making sure not to have it come into contact with the ground, packing it away from any sharp objects etc. Really bummed out and wondering if this is just a fluke, user error or known quality issue? Assistant: I have never had the chance to play with one of those although admittedly I don't like the design, patching problems being apart of that. But I will say that i am really supersized with what my Xlite has put up with. No punctures or leaks of any kind after two years of good use including the AZT. So at least some of the modern air pads are ok I guess?
Human: What was the most disappointing gear acquisition of the last few years? When I say disappointment, I don't mean necessarily the worst. I mean what didn't work out the way you wanted it to or didn't meet the hype. My biggest disappointment was the Ghost Whisperer I bought a few years back. It's probably the most popular and hyped puffy in backpacking. Unfortunately it never fit right and wasn't very warm. It's really boxy with narrow arms, so to get one to fit my chest, I would have to size up. With the larger size the sleeves were probably 4 inches too long and I could hide a small toddler around my waist. Did I mention that it wasn't very warm. Bonus: The most surprising(not favorite) piece of gear was a HMG southwest. I bought one used for a really low price not expecting much and I grab that pack by default when I need a frame. Is it my favorite pack? No. That would be the MLD Prophet. However when I just need to throw stuff in a pack to get away without a lot of planning, I know it will handle the job with comfort. Assistant: Altra lone peak 4 All those stupid like $5-$10 easy purchases that I never use now (like hot lips for a ti pot or those compact reusable towels, I'm just a lip-burned savage now I guess)	Human: What was the most disappointing gear acquisition of the last few years? When I say disappointment, I don't mean necessarily the worst. I mean what didn't work out the way you wanted it to or didn't meet the hype. My biggest disappointment was the Ghost Whisperer I bought a few years back. It's probably the most popular and hyped puffy in backpacking. Unfortunately it never fit right and wasn't very warm. It's really boxy with narrow arms, so to get one to fit my chest, I would have to size up. With the larger size the sleeves were probably 4 inches too long and I could hide a small toddler around my waist. Did I mention that it wasn't very warm. Bonus: The most surprising(not favorite) piece of gear was a HMG southwest. I bought one used for a really low price not expecting much and I grab that pack by default when I need a frame. Is it my favorite pack? No. That would be the MLD Prophet. However when I just need to throw stuff in a pack to get away without a lot of planning, I know it will handle the job with comfort. Assistant: EE "30 degree" quilt purchased in 2017. So dang cold at 35 deg. FROZE MY BUTT OFF. No longer have that quilt. I hear their new stuff is rated better.
Human: If you had two weels to travel and hike in Montana, where would you go? Itll be mid-late August. I currently have the Northern Loop in Glacier NP on my list. Any other parks, regions, or trails that are must-see? I'm very mobile and am living in my camper for the time. Thanks for all the help. This will be my first time in Montana and probably the last time for a while. It's just too hard to make out there from SoCal Assistant: Stay outta my state commie! Just kidding, Montana local here and there's already a ton of great suggestions in here so I won't bother repeating them. That said keep your bear spray handy both in and out of the national parks, always hang your food, and please, please, please leave everything as you left it if not better.	Human: If you had two weels to travel and hike in Montana, where would you go? Itll be mid-late August. I currently have the Northern Loop in Glacier NP on my list. Any other parks, regions, or trails that are must-see? I'm very mobile and am living in my camper for the time. Thanks for all the help. This will be my first time in Montana and probably the last time for a while. It's just too hard to make out there from SoCal Assistant: Glacier for sure. You could spend a whole summer there
Human: Trail runners Hey, I’m going to hike a part of the rim of Africa (in the Cape - South Africa) and I was strongly warned against trail runners. I’m wondering if I should take them seriously or if they are just a bit old fashioned? I was also warned against trail runners on Kilimanjaro but didn’t have any issues. It will be summer so no snow expected. Have you ever experienced terrain that made you wish you were wearing boots? Assistant: Why are you worried about trail runners? We're nice people usually.	Human: Trail runners Hey, I’m going to hike a part of the rim of Africa (in the Cape - South Africa) and I was strongly warned against trail runners. I’m wondering if I should take them seriously or if they are just a bit old fashioned? I was also warned against trail runners on Kilimanjaro but didn’t have any issues. It will be summer so no snow expected. Have you ever experienced terrain that made you wish you were wearing boots? Assistant: I spent nearly four years in Southern Africa (Peace Corps). I did a ton of hiking all over the region in South Africa, Mozambique, Eswatini and Lesoto with trail runners and was fine. I was also a broke volunteer at the time and couldn't afford any more robust footware. There were a few scree scrambles that I took on that would have been much less sketchy in something more durable.
Human: Anyone have experience with the new SWD Movement pack? Definitely interested in the pack because of its modularity and what seems like a very comfortable design with the stay hooking directly into the hipbelt. Anyone have experience with it or know of a good review? Googling + a reddit search hasn't turned up anything, assuming because it is so new (or maybe my Google skills just suck). Am wondering in particular how it feels with the single stay in with a heavier loadouts. Thanks in advance! Assistant: Hi folks, any updates so far of those who already tested the movement pack?	Human: Anyone have experience with the new SWD Movement pack? Definitely interested in the pack because of its modularity and what seems like a very comfortable design with the stay hooking directly into the hipbelt. Anyone have experience with it or know of a good review? Googling + a reddit search hasn't turned up anything, assuming because it is so new (or maybe my Google skills just suck). Am wondering in particular how it feels with the single stay in with a heavier loadouts. Thanks in advance! Assistant: I just put a movement 40 on order. Looking forward to receiving it. I have no prior experience with their packs. I ordered a ‘rugged’ version in ultra 200 with a solid ultra 400 pocket. I hope it lasts for many years of hikes in the high Sierra.
Human: What is best low weight/packable hoody or base layer? Or what is best fabric to make my own? I live in SoCal so it is generally sunny and nice, but I want a light weight base layer I can put in my pack just in case. I am also pretty good with a sewing machine so I could make my own if you have any recommendation for a good fabric. thanks Assistant: Patagonia merino air is the best I've used, but it's unavailable because they're looking for a friendlier wool source. A synthetic capilene version is coming out this year, which should be a lot more durable and hopefully cheaper. Polartec Alpha Direct is the most interesting material out right now for fleeces, but it's still being adopted by manufacturers.	Human: What is best low weight/packable hoody or base layer? Or what is best fabric to make my own? I live in SoCal so it is generally sunny and nice, but I want a light weight base layer I can put in my pack just in case. I am also pretty good with a sewing machine so I could make my own if you have any recommendation for a good fabric. thanks Assistant: String vests. They are due a come back.
Human: Stores for purchasing ultralight items in Europe, specifically France, Italy, or Germany i personally am interested in purchasing lightweight items of clothing, basically the entire wardrobe, and related niche products. I am an American and do not speak French or German. I am an American backpacker currently located in eastern Europe and probably going to be relocating to France soon with my pack. Thanks for the advisement. Assistant: I've had a great experience with Bergfreunde - they shipped next day from Germany with DHL and it arrived a day later.	Human: Stores for purchasing ultralight items in Europe, specifically France, Italy, or Germany i personally am interested in purchasing lightweight items of clothing, basically the entire wardrobe, and related niche products. I am an American and do not speak French or German. I am an American backpacker currently located in eastern Europe and probably going to be relocating to France soon with my pack. Thanks for the advisement. Assistant: Absolute-snow.co.uk is good. Trekkinn.com and hikerhaus.de are also with some great deals.
Human: Hot water bottles. What do you use? Hi, On chilly nights I love bringing to my sleeping bag a nalgene full of hot water, to start me off warm, and then later in the night to drink if I get thirsty. I want to go lighter with my water bottle if I can, but I am worried a softer bottle is more likely to puncture if I accidently roll onto it. Anybody out there have a solution or experience using softer/lighter bottles for this purpose? Assistant: Stick with the Nalgene, use it as a foam roller too and boom: more value for the same weight and space.	Human: Hot water bottles. What do you use? Hi, On chilly nights I love bringing to my sleeping bag a nalgene full of hot water, to start me off warm, and then later in the night to drink if I get thirsty. I want to go lighter with my water bottle if I can, but I am worried a softer bottle is more likely to puncture if I accidently roll onto it. Anybody out there have a solution or experience using softer/lighter bottles for this purpose? Assistant: Hunersdorf bottles are the mountaineering standard for good reason. HDPE nalgenes are a decent alternative
Human: Anxieties on trail stopping sleep. When it storms on your shelter, do you ACTUALLY sleep? When it storms on your shelter, do you ACTUALLY sleep, or does the storm keep you awake? Does the worry of shelter failure anxiety keep you awake? I've never been one to sleep through a heavy storm. Even rain may keep me awake. This is exacerbated when I'm alone. Aside from taking an ambien, I doubt I'll ever sleep on trail during rain. Just something I thought I'd bring up for discussion... I'm going to try and make doors for my tarp for more storm proofing. This may help with "getting wet" anxiety. I also have camping alone anxiety. This may go away with more experience. I'd really like to solo backpack one day. What anxieties have ya'll had on trail and how did you mitigate them? Assistant: Rain or running water makes a great sleep, it's the dead quiet nights that put me on edge.	Human: Anxieties on trail stopping sleep. When it storms on your shelter, do you ACTUALLY sleep? When it storms on your shelter, do you ACTUALLY sleep, or does the storm keep you awake? Does the worry of shelter failure anxiety keep you awake? I've never been one to sleep through a heavy storm. Even rain may keep me awake. This is exacerbated when I'm alone. Aside from taking an ambien, I doubt I'll ever sleep on trail during rain. Just something I thought I'd bring up for discussion... I'm going to try and make doors for my tarp for more storm proofing. This may help with "getting wet" anxiety. I also have camping alone anxiety. This may go away with more experience. I'd really like to solo backpack one day. What anxieties have ya'll had on trail and how did you mitigate them? Assistant: Earplugs earplugs earplugs!
Human: I am buying a tarp shelter made out of cuben. It has different options for the thickness of the tarp. The options are 0.50 (140 g), 0.75 (190 g), and 0.85 (218 g). The 0.50 only comes in white also. Should I get a thicker tarp so it lasts longer or will the thinner do just fine. They cost the same. Assistant: Ron of MLD says .51 will get 150 nights, .75 will get 250 nights. If you do a couple weeks of camping a year then those shelters will last you 10.7 and 17.85 years respectively. Ballpark.	Human: I am buying a tarp shelter made out of cuben. It has different options for the thickness of the tarp. The options are 0.50 (140 g), 0.75 (190 g), and 0.85 (218 g). The 0.50 only comes in white also. Should I get a thicker tarp so it lasts longer or will the thinner do just fine. They cost the same. Assistant: I am less ready to pull the trigger on a cuben shelter, but came here for the same insight. Carry on. And thanks /u/Waj917 for asking.
Human: Pct Layering System Advice? Hi all, I'm hoping to head out on a PCT thru-hike next year and think I need some input on how I could improve my current layering/sleep system. The current system is a Thermarest vesper 32F quilt and R=1.5 Exped air mat, and on cold nights I'd wear my hiking clothes and my Rab microlight alpine. This has got me down to 40f in the swiss alps but I'm expecting some nights on the pct to be considerably colder. I'm planning to upgrade to an Xlite mat and I'm also thinking I'll bring a fleece and some merino bottoms for sleep and colder hiking. Does this sound like enough to push the lower temps in the Sierras or should I be considering a new quilt as well? I'm very open to suggestions for example I have never used down pants, would these perhaps be enough to supplement my current setup? I hope someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks. Also, I'll link my lighterpack in case it's of use: https://lighterpack.com/r/dnncfk Assistant: A quick clarification, your coldest night has just as much likelihood of happening in the desert and Washington as it does in the sierras. Would recommend being equally prepared for cold in all 3 locations. NorCal and Oregon will be the warmest areas.	Human: Pct Layering System Advice? Hi all, I'm hoping to head out on a PCT thru-hike next year and think I need some input on how I could improve my current layering/sleep system. The current system is a Thermarest vesper 32F quilt and R=1.5 Exped air mat, and on cold nights I'd wear my hiking clothes and my Rab microlight alpine. This has got me down to 40f in the swiss alps but I'm expecting some nights on the pct to be considerably colder. I'm planning to upgrade to an Xlite mat and I'm also thinking I'll bring a fleece and some merino bottoms for sleep and colder hiking. Does this sound like enough to push the lower temps in the Sierras or should I be considering a new quilt as well? I'm very open to suggestions for example I have never used down pants, would these perhaps be enough to supplement my current setup? I hope someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks. Also, I'll link my lighterpack in case it's of use: https://lighterpack.com/r/dnncfk Assistant: The Sierra isn’t even where you’ll probably see your coldest nights. We had far more nights in the low 20s and even the high teens in the North Cascades than we ever saw in California. Err on the side of caution, it is a horribly anxious feeling going to sleep dreading the cold when you know the forecast and are afraid whether you’re pushing the limits of your sleep system. We finished on Sept 21 though, so Your mileage may vary if you’re able to get up there quicker.
Human: Experiences with (too) short and narrow sleeping pads for weight savings Greetings! I am considering buying a new sleeping pad for bikepacking. My old Thermarest one does work fine, but its just too bulky to take on long bikepacking trips. Now I've stumbled upon the NeoAit Uberlite and am really fond of it. However I am unsure if i should go for the short version in order to save even more weight and space. I am 6foot tall, which means even the regular would be a little small for me, so i thought why not go one smaller. I am however a little bit concerned about the width of the pad, which is pretty much my shoulder width. Does anyone have experiences sleeping on a arguably too small sleeping pad for multiple weeks? I would only be using it during warmer conditions with a down sleeping pad, so insulation wouldnt be a problem, just have to keep my core nice and warm. Any experiences would be appreciated, thanks! Assistant: Always go bigger. A shitty sleep will affect you so much more on trail than carrying an additional 8 oz.	Human: Experiences with (too) short and narrow sleeping pads for weight savings Greetings! I am considering buying a new sleeping pad for bikepacking. My old Thermarest one does work fine, but its just too bulky to take on long bikepacking trips. Now I've stumbled upon the NeoAit Uberlite and am really fond of it. However I am unsure if i should go for the short version in order to save even more weight and space. I am 6foot tall, which means even the regular would be a little small for me, so i thought why not go one smaller. I am however a little bit concerned about the width of the pad, which is pretty much my shoulder width. Does anyone have experiences sleeping on a arguably too small sleeping pad for multiple weeks? I would only be using it during warmer conditions with a down sleeping pad, so insulation wouldnt be a problem, just have to keep my core nice and warm. Any experiences would be appreciated, thanks! Assistant: Sleep is important...so much so that I bring a large inflatable (25” width and long length), along with a gasp pillow.
Human: Cutting a CCF Pad in Half and Stacking I've tried searching to see if anyone has tried this before but came up empty, but I also can't search for my life. I'm a short guy that can get away with a torso length CCF pad very easily, but I'm hesitant to go CCF over inflatable for comfort and sleeping sake, because I'm a certified-side-sleeper. I'm curious if anyone has tried stacking CCF pads and if it had any major impact on comfort. I'm not really interested in the R-value change so much as I'm interested how it feels. There's 0% chance I'm carrying 2 CCF pads, but if I can just carry one, cut in half and stack the two halves on top of each other, it seems like a happy medium. Assistant: If you cut your pad in half you will have two pads. Just fold it in half. If it's a zlite it might not fold very well at first but all you have to do is lay on it and it'll learn to lay flat.	Human: Cutting a CCF Pad in Half and Stacking I've tried searching to see if anyone has tried this before but came up empty, but I also can't search for my life. I'm a short guy that can get away with a torso length CCF pad very easily, but I'm hesitant to go CCF over inflatable for comfort and sleeping sake, because I'm a certified-side-sleeper. I'm curious if anyone has tried stacking CCF pads and if it had any major impact on comfort. I'm not really interested in the R-value change so much as I'm interested how it feels. There's 0% chance I'm carrying 2 CCF pads, but if I can just carry one, cut in half and stack the two halves on top of each other, it seems like a happy medium. Assistant: I did that for 3 years. It's still not comfortable. Lol. Eventually went back to inflatables because I was always waking up with hip pain at night.
Human: Any UL hikers out there with nut allergies? Tips for getting more calories in? I have a decently severe peanut allergy, enough so where I have to avoid “may contain peanuts” or “processed in same facility as peanuts”. While there may not be much danger in that as I’ve come to learn, physiologically I’ll have a reaction whether mental or physical. I’m looking at brands and butters to get in more calories and I was wondering what suggestions anyone else in my situation had? Also going to rant for a second. Most allergy free bars taste like shit, and almond butter fucking blows, I’m beyond jealous of people just chugging down jars of peanut butter and peanut buttery bars on the trail. It looks so good and creamy and actually somewhat palette-able. Rant over. Assistant: So I just say this product in a HyVee today, John Gordon’s Bacon Up Bacon Grease. Peanut free, gluten free. Shelf stable to 80 degrees and liquifies but is still usable. 289 calories per ounce, would replace olive oil.	Human: Any UL hikers out there with nut allergies? Tips for getting more calories in? I have a decently severe peanut allergy, enough so where I have to avoid “may contain peanuts” or “processed in same facility as peanuts”. While there may not be much danger in that as I’ve come to learn, physiologically I’ll have a reaction whether mental or physical. I’m looking at brands and butters to get in more calories and I was wondering what suggestions anyone else in my situation had? Also going to rant for a second. Most allergy free bars taste like shit, and almond butter fucking blows, I’m beyond jealous of people just chugging down jars of peanut butter and peanut buttery bars on the trail. It looks so good and creamy and actually somewhat palette-able. Rant over. Assistant: My girlfriend has a severe peanut allergy as well and finds pretty much all store bought almond butter disgusting. She started making her own at home and the difference is night and day, it tastes so much better. When she adds tahini to it it pretty much tastes like peanut butter to my palette.
Human: SUL and Frameless with a Bear Can? Going frameless has its obvious advantages, but, once you're out of that sweet frameless honeymoon phase, some disadvantages do start to creep up on you. One of these is the challenge of keeping the pack stable and comfortable with any arbitrary amount of food in it, be it at the start of a big carry or the hour before you reach the next resupply. This seems to be exacerbated on long thru-hikes, like the PCT, which require a bear canister to be carried in certain regions that overlap with the longest food carries, requiring the largest bear cans (e.g. BV500) to be used. With my baseweight of 5-6lbs packing down to about 10L, there is plenty of room in my current 32L pack for a bear can to sit vertically. However, when the bear can is no longer required, and the food carries become shorter, the free space left in the pack results in less-than-optimal comfort and accelerated wear of the DCF fabric. In the past I have just sort of put up with this as part of the fickle convenience of frameless packs, but I would be interested in hearing about the sorts of strategies have people come up with to tackle this! Cheers! Assistant: I use closed cell pad. When the pack food start to get minimal I pack other items in the bear canister and the pad goes from outside of the pack to inside the pack. The pack stays pretty full at all times.	Human: SUL and Frameless with a Bear Can? Going frameless has its obvious advantages, but, once you're out of that sweet frameless honeymoon phase, some disadvantages do start to creep up on you. One of these is the challenge of keeping the pack stable and comfortable with any arbitrary amount of food in it, be it at the start of a big carry or the hour before you reach the next resupply. This seems to be exacerbated on long thru-hikes, like the PCT, which require a bear canister to be carried in certain regions that overlap with the longest food carries, requiring the largest bear cans (e.g. BV500) to be used. With my baseweight of 5-6lbs packing down to about 10L, there is plenty of room in my current 32L pack for a bear can to sit vertically. However, when the bear can is no longer required, and the food carries become shorter, the free space left in the pack results in less-than-optimal comfort and accelerated wear of the DCF fabric. In the past I have just sort of put up with this as part of the fickle convenience of frameless packs, but I would be interested in hearing about the sorts of strategies have people come up with to tackle this! Cheers! Assistant: My buddies and I just shift things around in our packs when our food bags start getting smaller on day 3-4 of a 4-5 day backcountry trip. Obviously with a bearcan there's only so much you can do, but shifting things around is still the best option. One thing you can do is put your dirty socks and underclothing you won't wear again in a plastic bag inside the bearcan, and just shift the carry items so it's a more symmetrical packing orientation. If you've played Tetris, you know what I mean.
Human: What's next for ultralight gear? What are some new fast-rising technologies for backpacking that most people probably haven't heard of yet? Assistant: I'm kind of surprised we haven't moved past goose down at this point	Human: What's next for ultralight gear? What are some new fast-rising technologies for backpacking that most people probably haven't heard of yet? Assistant: People are talking about aerogel, graphene, invisible tarps, and nano tech while I'm here waiting for a damn squeeze bottle for the befree.
Human: Do any of you use treadmills with incline to get into hiking shape and if so what is your routine? I lost most of 2018's hiking season due to knee surgery/recovery, and was only able to get back into the swing of things in November before winter conditions set in. In the few hikes that I did squeeze in, I noticed my hiking cardio was understandably not where it use to be. To help prep for 2019's season I've been trying to come up with some routines on the treadmill using varying inclines/speeds to help build that cardio up. Granted I'm only on the treadmill 45-60 mins instead of all day hiking, so I know the best training would be to "get out there and hike", and I will, but I also would like to use the treadmill to supplement. So if you do anything similar, would you mind sharing your routine? Assistant: For strength, 5x5 squats (real ones, not Smith machine). For endurance, treadmill with a "hills" program, and Stair Master. I try to imitate what I do on the trail on the Stair Master (i.e., twist left/right and cross-step, in addition to "normal" steps). For cardio, I do whatever I feel like (indoor cycling, swimming). My routine seems to work out. (pun intended)	Human: Do any of you use treadmills with incline to get into hiking shape and if so what is your routine? I lost most of 2018's hiking season due to knee surgery/recovery, and was only able to get back into the swing of things in November before winter conditions set in. In the few hikes that I did squeeze in, I noticed my hiking cardio was understandably not where it use to be. To help prep for 2019's season I've been trying to come up with some routines on the treadmill using varying inclines/speeds to help build that cardio up. Granted I'm only on the treadmill 45-60 mins instead of all day hiking, so I know the best training would be to "get out there and hike", and I will, but I also would like to use the treadmill to supplement. So if you do anything similar, would you mind sharing your routine? Assistant: r/health just posted a meta analysis about how HIIT workouts are far superior to a moderate intensity workout. Might be a good place to start.
Human: Lightweight 3-season 1P Tent Recommendations Looking to shed some weight on my tent. I've had a North Face Mountain Marathon for 12 years, which has served me very well, but it weighs in at around 1.36kg (packed weight) and you can't sit up in it. I've been researching lighter tents but it seems just as I make a decision, I stumble upon a lighter tent. Given the great deal of knowledge I see here lurking, I would appreciate any suggestions. The caveats, I am mainly based in China, so cottage manufacturers are not an option I wish to explore. Importing here is a hassle, and the tax on goods expensive. There are larger commercial brands here in China such as TNF, so those I can consider. There is also a limited window where I can pick things up in the UK, but again it would need to be from a brand that can supply things in the UK in a short time frame, so MSR, Big Agnes, TNF, Berghaus, etc. At first I'd settled on the MSR FreeLite 1. Claims a packed weight of 1.13kg and has the option of going down to lighter with the Fast&Lightweight tub style inner, (which would be nice to use when in the UK, need to keep a mesh netting when using it here in China). Whilst checking out the MSR tents, I did see the Carbon Reflex 1, but even though it has an appealing 0.79kg packed weight and a tub inner option as well, the negative reviews about the lack of zipper on the door, and the annoyance of closing it and possible failure to stand up to winds and rain, put me off. But if you've used it and swear by it please let me know. Actually had some students bring in the TNF O2 today (off on expedition tomorrow) and just holding it, I was really struck by how light it was. It says two person but looks roomy for 1, and apparently has a packed weight 1.02kg. Going to see it in action this week, but if anyone has used it can give opinions they'd be very welcome. That's what I'm looking at at the moment. If you have any other great suggestions please let me know. I'm not looking to go tarp/bivy. I do like the enclosed nature of a tent, freestanding is a preference but not a must and inner mesh to keep out bugs is needed. The tents are mainly for 3-season use and not really like to go above 2000m in elevation. If I've missed out some vital info needed to help inform the decision, apologies and thanks in advance for any advice given. Assistant: If you’re in China, check the lanshan 1 or 2 on AliExpress. It’s not freestanding, but they’re light and local to you.	Human: Lightweight 3-season 1P Tent Recommendations Looking to shed some weight on my tent. I've had a North Face Mountain Marathon for 12 years, which has served me very well, but it weighs in at around 1.36kg (packed weight) and you can't sit up in it. I've been researching lighter tents but it seems just as I make a decision, I stumble upon a lighter tent. Given the great deal of knowledge I see here lurking, I would appreciate any suggestions. The caveats, I am mainly based in China, so cottage manufacturers are not an option I wish to explore. Importing here is a hassle, and the tax on goods expensive. There are larger commercial brands here in China such as TNF, so those I can consider. There is also a limited window where I can pick things up in the UK, but again it would need to be from a brand that can supply things in the UK in a short time frame, so MSR, Big Agnes, TNF, Berghaus, etc. At first I'd settled on the MSR FreeLite 1. Claims a packed weight of 1.13kg and has the option of going down to lighter with the Fast&Lightweight tub style inner, (which would be nice to use when in the UK, need to keep a mesh netting when using it here in China). Whilst checking out the MSR tents, I did see the Carbon Reflex 1, but even though it has an appealing 0.79kg packed weight and a tub inner option as well, the negative reviews about the lack of zipper on the door, and the annoyance of closing it and possible failure to stand up to winds and rain, put me off. But if you've used it and swear by it please let me know. Actually had some students bring in the TNF O2 today (off on expedition tomorrow) and just holding it, I was really struck by how light it was. It says two person but looks roomy for 1, and apparently has a packed weight 1.02kg. Going to see it in action this week, but if anyone has used it can give opinions they'd be very welcome. That's what I'm looking at at the moment. If you have any other great suggestions please let me know. I'm not looking to go tarp/bivy. I do like the enclosed nature of a tent, freestanding is a preference but not a must and inner mesh to keep out bugs is needed. The tents are mainly for 3-season use and not really like to go above 2000m in elevation. If I've missed out some vital info needed to help inform the decision, apologies and thanks in advance for any advice given. Assistant: I recently bought a SMD Skyscape Trekker and love it. Easy set up. Haven't had an issue with condensation. Plenty of room. Can roll up the sides so plenty of ventilation. About 25 oz seam sealed (not including weight of stakes or poles). Would recommend giving it a look.
Human: Rain kilt + knee-high gaiters instead of rain pants? I am thinking about replacing my GTX rain pants with a combination of rain kilt and knee-high gaiters for summer hikes. I am usually hiking in subarctic climate (cold, windy, long periods of rain). Does anyone have experience with this combination, ideally in similar conditions? I am very happy with my GTX pants' performance in terms of waterproofness and ventilation (full-length zips). However, the weight is not ideal and I can't quickly take them on or off. The versatility and low weight of kilt + gaiters are compelling, but I am worried about getting wet during longer periods of rain with wind. Assistant: ULA rain kilt has been a great friend on class 2 off trail trips in the Sierra. Been in some gnarly high altitude hail storms with it and much preferred over rain paint.	Human: Rain kilt + knee-high gaiters instead of rain pants? I am thinking about replacing my GTX rain pants with a combination of rain kilt and knee-high gaiters for summer hikes. I am usually hiking in subarctic climate (cold, windy, long periods of rain). Does anyone have experience with this combination, ideally in similar conditions? I am very happy with my GTX pants' performance in terms of waterproofness and ventilation (full-length zips). However, the weight is not ideal and I can't quickly take them on or off. The versatility and low weight of kilt + gaiters are compelling, but I am worried about getting wet during longer periods of rain with wind. Assistant: Yea I run this and like it. Rain kilt doubles as small ground tarp. Knee high gators are also nice for dewy mornings. Bit more involved, 3 pieces of kit, compared to 1 with rain pants. Also rain pants double as warming pants in evening after hike.
Human: Hikers with bad eyesight, do you use contacts on trail? I'm currently debating on whether to use lenses or glasses on the trail. There is noway I can go without (I can see, but let's just say everything further away than 30cm gets blurry) and at this point it's likely I'll bring both. That means 1x regular glasses, 1x prescription sunglasses, 1x normal sunglasses (for when I wear lenses), at least 1 lens box, some lens liquid. I personally prefer using lenses - glasses suck in the rain and I find they often get in the way when doing stuff (like climbing - do I trust them not fall off randomly? No I don't). I usually wear day lenses, so this would be super impractical on the trail, but I'm wondering what my options are otherwise. I've never worn month lenses - could this be an alternative? It seems like it on google, but I'd love to get some first hand advice from people who'd used them. What do you guys find more practical? Lenses are a bit fiddly, but glasses are horrible when it rains (or when I want to jump into a stream to wash...). Assistant: I use prescription transitions and a hat with a brim. I haven’t felt it necessary to get full blown sunglasses since my transitions are pretty dark.	Human: Hikers with bad eyesight, do you use contacts on trail? I'm currently debating on whether to use lenses or glasses on the trail. There is noway I can go without (I can see, but let's just say everything further away than 30cm gets blurry) and at this point it's likely I'll bring both. That means 1x regular glasses, 1x prescription sunglasses, 1x normal sunglasses (for when I wear lenses), at least 1 lens box, some lens liquid. I personally prefer using lenses - glasses suck in the rain and I find they often get in the way when doing stuff (like climbing - do I trust them not fall off randomly? No I don't). I usually wear day lenses, so this would be super impractical on the trail, but I'm wondering what my options are otherwise. I've never worn month lenses - could this be an alternative? It seems like it on google, but I'd love to get some first hand advice from people who'd used them. What do you guys find more practical? Lenses are a bit fiddly, but glasses are horrible when it rains (or when I want to jump into a stream to wash...). Assistant: I wear glasses. too many opportunities for infection if you have to take contacts our and put them back in, not to mention you can use eyeglasses to start a fire if you had to lol.
Human: Fleece general? Hey, I've been thinking lately about changing my set up from my down jacket to something like a fleece for the 3- season. The more I hike the more I don't care for if I get wet and the more it pisses me off when I have to try to protect my down jacket when it rains in the morning etc. I fell in love in the Melanzana (cliché) but we all know what's up with them. I've heard that this Micro Grid Polartec stuff is pretty good, and I came across a few option here on Reddit, but the options seem.. very limited. All I could find in the search bar is maybe 3/4 options to choose from, is there really nothing else than the pato r1 that can be recommended? What about other fleece type fabrics? I've never been a fan of fleece for 2 reasons, I liked the warmth/weight ratio of down, and the fleece was always bulky. But now honestly I don't care, I just want something that will work when it's misty and the air is wet. I also live in europe so I get raped with customs if ordering from US therefore I'm looking mostly for world-know brands for obvious reason. #edit: I've been also thinking about the Patagonia nano puff for the same reasons of not giving a dang if it's wet out, do I think right or should I stick with fleece? Thanks Assistant: Standard 100% polyester fleece is better than grid fleece in most ways. Absorbs less water and dries faster. The elastic in grid fleece makes it absorb more water. Grid fleece wicks moisture slightly better and the stretchy form fit is nice especially with hoods. The patagonia nano puff has a very low warmth for it's weight. I think you would like the nano air because the air permeable fabric makes it more comfortable for active use and it also dries out faster.	Human: Fleece general? Hey, I've been thinking lately about changing my set up from my down jacket to something like a fleece for the 3- season. The more I hike the more I don't care for if I get wet and the more it pisses me off when I have to try to protect my down jacket when it rains in the morning etc. I fell in love in the Melanzana (cliché) but we all know what's up with them. I've heard that this Micro Grid Polartec stuff is pretty good, and I came across a few option here on Reddit, but the options seem.. very limited. All I could find in the search bar is maybe 3/4 options to choose from, is there really nothing else than the pato r1 that can be recommended? What about other fleece type fabrics? I've never been a fan of fleece for 2 reasons, I liked the warmth/weight ratio of down, and the fleece was always bulky. But now honestly I don't care, I just want something that will work when it's misty and the air is wet. I also live in europe so I get raped with customs if ordering from US therefore I'm looking mostly for world-know brands for obvious reason. #edit: I've been also thinking about the Patagonia nano puff for the same reasons of not giving a dang if it's wet out, do I think right or should I stick with fleece? Thanks Assistant: Someone keeps posting this grid fleece on sale from a European outlet.
Human: Performance of puffy jackets when worn under packs? Hi All, wanted some advice since I'm new with technical clothing, and been learning a from this subreddit. Thank you in advance for any advice! 1.) Haven't seen too much discussion on how puffy jackets' performance degrades when worn under packs. I don't know this for a fact, but assuming it to be the case, since the loft would get compressed under the weight of packs. I understand that there are some puffies that are typically worn when the user is at rest. And then taken off when the person gets moving again. Or when stationary at camp. In both cases, user not wearing a pack But there also seem to be puffies (Nano Air, Atom, Proton) that are meant to be worn, during activity. In which case the hiker would be wearing them while wearing a pack. Wouldn't this lead to reduced performance? And if so, then wouldn't fleece be the more appropriate material to use? 2.) If have any advice on upper body layers, would appreciate any advice/recommendation for specific clothing articles: Fishing in hilly terrain - Day trips of 10-12 miles, no overnight camping - Lots of stop and go - hike uphill from pool to pool, along mountain stream, and then low aerobic activity (15 - 20 mins) while fishing at the pool. - Expected temps: trip #1:15F - 35F, trip #2: 30F - 45F - Not considering down insulation, since close to water - Wearing a daypack and chestpack while hiking (this is where question #1 ties into the equation) Assistant: My back is always too hot when wearing a pack, down to about 10*F. Need a back-less fleece!	Human: Performance of puffy jackets when worn under packs? Hi All, wanted some advice since I'm new with technical clothing, and been learning a from this subreddit. Thank you in advance for any advice! 1.) Haven't seen too much discussion on how puffy jackets' performance degrades when worn under packs. I don't know this for a fact, but assuming it to be the case, since the loft would get compressed under the weight of packs. I understand that there are some puffies that are typically worn when the user is at rest. And then taken off when the person gets moving again. Or when stationary at camp. In both cases, user not wearing a pack But there also seem to be puffies (Nano Air, Atom, Proton) that are meant to be worn, during activity. In which case the hiker would be wearing them while wearing a pack. Wouldn't this lead to reduced performance? And if so, then wouldn't fleece be the more appropriate material to use? 2.) If have any advice on upper body layers, would appreciate any advice/recommendation for specific clothing articles: Fishing in hilly terrain - Day trips of 10-12 miles, no overnight camping - Lots of stop and go - hike uphill from pool to pool, along mountain stream, and then low aerobic activity (15 - 20 mins) while fishing at the pool. - Expected temps: trip #1:15F - 35F, trip #2: 30F - 45F - Not considering down insulation, since close to water - Wearing a daypack and chestpack while hiking (this is where question #1 ties into the equation) Assistant: Wear a fleece over a base layer. Zip/unzip, hood (or beanie) on/off as needed. Gets too cold? Throw on that puffy you brought for resting. You probably don't want to start hiking with a puffy but may want it when temps crater.
Human: Is it possible to overcompress a down sleeping bag? I recently bought a FF Egret for a song, but it didn’t come with a stuff sack. It’s older, and I wanted to weigh it, so put it in another stuff sack much smaller than the one recommended for my bag, and was shocked it (mostly) fit. Now I’m looking to buy a compression sack for my bag, and wondering, given that the site lists its packed size as 8L, if I would be remiss to buy a 6L sack, even knowing it’ll fit. Assistant: https://www.westernmountaineering.com/faqs/ Jump down to storage	Human: Is it possible to overcompress a down sleeping bag? I recently bought a FF Egret for a song, but it didn’t come with a stuff sack. It’s older, and I wanted to weigh it, so put it in another stuff sack much smaller than the one recommended for my bag, and was shocked it (mostly) fit. Now I’m looking to buy a compression sack for my bag, and wondering, given that the site lists its packed size as 8L, if I would be remiss to buy a 6L sack, even knowing it’ll fit. Assistant: Just get a liner and you won’t have to worry about overcompression
Human: Please post pictures of your tarp setup with net tent I'm sure this has been asked, but I can't find images here. I have a tarp and new mesh tent and I'm trying to figure out an easy way to pitch it with trekking poles. Secondarily, I need to add a couple tie outs to the long edges of the tarp. Any reason not to place them equidistantly along the edge that parallels the ground? I was thinking having additional tieouts may permit me to pitch it with the ends slightly closed. Assistant: Here you go	Human: Please post pictures of your tarp setup with net tent I'm sure this has been asked, but I can't find images here. I have a tarp and new mesh tent and I'm trying to figure out an easy way to pitch it with trekking poles. Secondarily, I need to add a couple tie outs to the long edges of the tarp. Any reason not to place them equidistantly along the edge that parallels the ground? I was thinking having additional tieouts may permit me to pitch it with the ends slightly closed. Assistant: I suspend my bug bivy from tabs sewn to the underside of my tarp: https://rmignatius.wordpress.com/tarp-photos/ This is probably the best picture showing the set up: https://rmignatius.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/img_0937.jpg?w=768
Human: What items are actually improved by UL-hacking them? I finally got around to replacing my headlamp strap with an elastic shoelace I happened to have lying around, and after using it I'm kicking myself for not having done it sooner. I can't feel the shoelace at all! It doesn't itch against my skin or get sweaty in humid weather. Normally UL-ing an item means compromising convenience for lightness, but in this case the lamp is improved all-around by the "hack." Are there other item mods are like this? What else have I been missing out on? Assistant: I cut a piece out of the back of my phone case. It cut the weight in half, but also according to AccuBattery, it lets the battery vent heat and makes it charge more efficiently.	Human: What items are actually improved by UL-hacking them? I finally got around to replacing my headlamp strap with an elastic shoelace I happened to have lying around, and after using it I'm kicking myself for not having done it sooner. I can't feel the shoelace at all! It doesn't itch against my skin or get sweaty in humid weather. Normally UL-ing an item means compromising convenience for lightness, but in this case the lamp is improved all-around by the "hack." Are there other item mods are like this? What else have I been missing out on? Assistant: I haven't changed the strap on my nu25 because the stock strap is so comfy
Human: First aid Not really a hard core ultra light guy. But I AM lazy and want to carry less weight. I’ve got a first aid kit I’ve slapped together and want to keep it organized and accessible for when it may be needed. All of the compartment pouches and bag for keeping it together are bulky and heavy. Any suggestions? Assistant: My first aid kit is whatever bandaids I have and whatever pills I found in the couch stuffed in a tiny ziplock.	Human: First aid Not really a hard core ultra light guy. But I AM lazy and want to carry less weight. I’ve got a first aid kit I’ve slapped together and want to keep it organized and accessible for when it may be needed. All of the compartment pouches and bag for keeping it together are bulky and heavy. Any suggestions? Assistant: I am in the UK so my first aid kit is in a small dry bag. My smaller first aid kit when I really need to save weight is in a DCF zip pouch. Much of the kit would be of no use if it got soaked by rain.
Human: How to clean gross trekking pole handles/straps So I’m not sure if this happens to anyone else, but the straps on my trekking poles like literally never dry. I leave them out in my house and they just always feel kind of damp. I think they might be moldy. Does this happen to anyone else? What is the best way to clean the straps and to clean the cork grips - those are pretty gross too? Assistant: How about good old soap and water?	Human: How to clean gross trekking pole handles/straps So I’m not sure if this happens to anyone else, but the straps on my trekking poles like literally never dry. I leave them out in my house and they just always feel kind of damp. I think they might be moldy. Does this happen to anyone else? What is the best way to clean the straps and to clean the cork grips - those are pretty gross too? Assistant: I would put them in a bucket of bleach solution with a little detergent. You can put the bucket outside or in your bathtub. Soak as long as you want. Use hot water if you want. Stir with the \[inverted\] poles if you want. Rinse after an hour or the next day and dry in the sun or with a blow dryer. You could probably put them in your dishwasher, too.
Human: Waterproof rain jacket science. I've been looking for a waterproof jacket. A jacket where if you were to stand perfectly still for 24 hours in the pouring rain would keep you dry. I.e. the emphasis is on waterproof.. NOT breathable. I have devised a test * Get a glass bowl. * Lay the jacket so that a continuous piece of the material is covering the bowl with no seams outside up. * Poor onto the fabric a cup of water. * Wait 4hrs * Come back carefully removing the water from the jacket. * Observe the back of the jacket. * Observe if there is any water in the bowl. I ran this test on * A cheap plastic poncho * back side and bowl were bone dry * A gortex marmot minimalist jacket * back side of jacket was wet. * small pool of water in bowl * A uniqlo blocktech jacket * back side of jacket similar to marmot minimalist but not quite as wet. * small pool of water in bowl. * this doesn't actually claim to be water proof, only water resistant. But it was still better than the gortex. * My gf's random womens patagonia rain jacket. Looks like its some PU coating on the back * back side of jacket similar to marmot minimalist but not quite as wet. * small pool of water in bowl. * A bisley workwear Jacket claiming tpu coated >20,000mmH20 * https://www.bisleyworkwear.com.au/lightweight-ripstop-rain-jacket/ * back side very slightly damp & misty * no pool of water * best of the bunch by far. Still not quite what I'd call waterproof. All throughout reddit I see claims that gortex is 100% waterproof. And whenever someone challenges that thought, everyone just claims you are wet from your own sweat and condensation. Correct me if I'm wrong but a glass bowl doesn't sweat. So where is this water coming from if it is not indeed LEAKING through the impenetrable membrane. What is going on here... Even the 20000mmH20 TPU coated workwear jacket (the best of the bunch) was not bone dry like the plastic poncho. (and I thought TPU was pretty much a coating of plastic) I definitely did not have 20,000mmH20 sitting on it. Just a cup of water. It seems these ratings only measure instantaneous water penetration and if you just leave a small puddle for over and hour (more representative of real life) they will leak. Just to make sure we are all on the same page. Waterproof means I can make a bag out of it and store water in it without it leaking. Anything less I just water resistant/repellent. Can someone explain the science to me? Are these jackets indeed leaking? And can anyone recommend a jacket that is waterproof enough to make a water bladder out of? Assistant: https://leaf.arcteryx.com/gb/en/shop/mens/alpha-jacket-gen-2 should keep you dry in a monsoon, trust me https://leaf.arcteryx.com/gb/en/shop/mens/alpha-jacket-lt-gen-2 is the lighter edition at 420 grams	Human: Waterproof rain jacket science. I've been looking for a waterproof jacket. A jacket where if you were to stand perfectly still for 24 hours in the pouring rain would keep you dry. I.e. the emphasis is on waterproof.. NOT breathable. I have devised a test * Get a glass bowl. * Lay the jacket so that a continuous piece of the material is covering the bowl with no seams outside up. * Poor onto the fabric a cup of water. * Wait 4hrs * Come back carefully removing the water from the jacket. * Observe the back of the jacket. * Observe if there is any water in the bowl. I ran this test on * A cheap plastic poncho * back side and bowl were bone dry * A gortex marmot minimalist jacket * back side of jacket was wet. * small pool of water in bowl * A uniqlo blocktech jacket * back side of jacket similar to marmot minimalist but not quite as wet. * small pool of water in bowl. * this doesn't actually claim to be water proof, only water resistant. But it was still better than the gortex. * My gf's random womens patagonia rain jacket. Looks like its some PU coating on the back * back side of jacket similar to marmot minimalist but not quite as wet. * small pool of water in bowl. * A bisley workwear Jacket claiming tpu coated >20,000mmH20 * https://www.bisleyworkwear.com.au/lightweight-ripstop-rain-jacket/ * back side very slightly damp & misty * no pool of water * best of the bunch by far. Still not quite what I'd call waterproof. All throughout reddit I see claims that gortex is 100% waterproof. And whenever someone challenges that thought, everyone just claims you are wet from your own sweat and condensation. Correct me if I'm wrong but a glass bowl doesn't sweat. So where is this water coming from if it is not indeed LEAKING through the impenetrable membrane. What is going on here... Even the 20000mmH20 TPU coated workwear jacket (the best of the bunch) was not bone dry like the plastic poncho. (and I thought TPU was pretty much a coating of plastic) I definitely did not have 20,000mmH20 sitting on it. Just a cup of water. It seems these ratings only measure instantaneous water penetration and if you just leave a small puddle for over and hour (more representative of real life) they will leak. Just to make sure we are all on the same page. Waterproof means I can make a bag out of it and store water in it without it leaking. Anything less I just water resistant/repellent. Can someone explain the science to me? Are these jackets indeed leaking? And can anyone recommend a jacket that is waterproof enough to make a water bladder out of? Assistant: How much does the bisley jacket weigh?
Human: Waterproof jacket for running? Oh UL oracle, hear my plea... I need a waterproof jacket that is suitable for running. For me that means in addition to being quite light (~300g or less), packable and breathable I need a full length front zip and vitally: pit zips. (Gotta breath them pits). Not looking for the lightest option out there, happy to accept added weight for useful features (eg adjustable hood). As a start point: OMM Aether (but no pit zips): https://www.theomm.com/product/aether-jacket/ Assistant: The Arcteryx Norvan SL seems pretty impressive for how waterproof and breathable it is.	Human: Waterproof jacket for running? Oh UL oracle, hear my plea... I need a waterproof jacket that is suitable for running. For me that means in addition to being quite light (~300g or less), packable and breathable I need a full length front zip and vitally: pit zips. (Gotta breath them pits). Not looking for the lightest option out there, happy to accept added weight for useful features (eg adjustable hood). As a start point: OMM Aether (but no pit zips): https://www.theomm.com/product/aether-jacket/ Assistant: Just bought the Dynafit Transalper jacket. It's like 6oz. UTMB approved with super high waterproof and breatheability ratings. Couldn't be happier!
Human: Do wind jackets go against everything ultralight stands for? It has been said many times that ultralight is not about numbers, but a state of mind. It is looking at your gear critically and asking yourself "Do I really need this". With that said, carrying a wind jacket and a rain jacket is completely redundant. Of course, wind jackets make for comfortable active layers due to their superior breathable, but it is by no means an item that you NEED. So, is a wind jacket a luxury item that many hikers find worth the 2-3 oz penalty? Or am I missing something here? Assistant: If you're in open areas, getting blasted by wind on a regular basis then it's very nice to have a windshell between 10 and 40cfm. It's far better that your .01CFM rain shell and it also preserves the rain shell for when you need it most. If I was doing the PCT or CDT I would for sure bring one.	Human: Do wind jackets go against everything ultralight stands for? It has been said many times that ultralight is not about numbers, but a state of mind. It is looking at your gear critically and asking yourself "Do I really need this". With that said, carrying a wind jacket and a rain jacket is completely redundant. Of course, wind jackets make for comfortable active layers due to their superior breathable, but it is by no means an item that you NEED. So, is a wind jacket a luxury item that many hikers find worth the 2-3 oz penalty? Or am I missing something here? Assistant: >carrying a wind jacket and a rain jacket is completely redundant. Which is why I don’t carry both. If rain is a strong possiblity I won’t bring the wind jacket. No rain forecast and I’m certainly not bringing the rain jacket
Human: Has anyone designed open-back active layers? Something that I've been wondering about sometimes when I start hiking, feeling cold, then as I warm up, having to take off my backpack just to shed my insulating layers (fleece, wind jacket), is why I haven't seen anyone design open-back garments. In quilts vs. sleeping bags, the back part has been removed because it is useless as the down is compressed. When we wear our backpack while hiking, our backpack is a very effective insulating layer that makes sure our back is one part of our body that is never cold (as all of us with sweating backs will attest). The superiority of quilts over sleeping bags in our UL circles has become conventionally accepted. Why hasn't a similar trend occurred for active layers, especially among the UL cottage companies that make fleeces and jackets? Or maybe I just haven't noticed? Already I see three main advantages: 1. Some weight savings from removing back fabrics. 2. Less sweaty backs. 3. Can be put on or removed without taking off backpack (if the garment is stowed in a hipbelt or pants pocket). Potential reasons why such a trend hasn't begun is probably the difficulty in designing garments that stay on you if they don't go around your body in some way. Perhaps such garments would need belt or neck loops, to mimic quilt attachment straps. Any thoughts? Harebrained idea, or the next frontier of backpacking attire? Assistant: Ah, you're describing the tactical halter top. Most commonly they're made of shiny reflective mylar to reflect heat; you may have seen them repurposed as party wear at clubs or discotheques. If you ask around your female friends may be able to help you find one.	Human: Has anyone designed open-back active layers? Something that I've been wondering about sometimes when I start hiking, feeling cold, then as I warm up, having to take off my backpack just to shed my insulating layers (fleece, wind jacket), is why I haven't seen anyone design open-back garments. In quilts vs. sleeping bags, the back part has been removed because it is useless as the down is compressed. When we wear our backpack while hiking, our backpack is a very effective insulating layer that makes sure our back is one part of our body that is never cold (as all of us with sweating backs will attest). The superiority of quilts over sleeping bags in our UL circles has become conventionally accepted. Why hasn't a similar trend occurred for active layers, especially among the UL cottage companies that make fleeces and jackets? Or maybe I just haven't noticed? Already I see three main advantages: 1. Some weight savings from removing back fabrics. 2. Less sweaty backs. 3. Can be put on or removed without taking off backpack (if the garment is stowed in a hipbelt or pants pocket). Potential reasons why such a trend hasn't begun is probably the difficulty in designing garments that stay on you if they don't go around your body in some way. Perhaps such garments would need belt or neck loops, to mimic quilt attachment straps. Any thoughts? Harebrained idea, or the next frontier of backpacking attire? Assistant: The timing of this post is incredible... I was thinking bout this EXACT same thing on a hike 2 days ago. I took my insulation off because my back was sweating too much, but then I had to deal with the cold on my arms, and the still-sweating back that would freeze every time I took my pack off. In my head, my solution was to bring a zippered jacket next time and wear it backwards with the hood hanging in front of me.
Human: Tarptent Aeon Li vs Gossamer Gear The One for single wall tent? Give me your thoughts on both tents. I am considering buying the 2020 version of the Aeon Li releasing in May or the DCF version of the One weighing in at ~16oz releasing during summer. Some points to consider: One or two trekking poles, internal room, packed size in stuff sack, venting/condensation. I am a quilt back sleeper, using a xlite. I don't want to feel like I'm sleeping in a coffin Assistant: So far I love my Aeon Li! I've had it out 5 nights so far. One night I got a torrential rain storm and stayed completely dry. It's roomier than my old zpack Hexamid, but smaller than the Tarptent rainbow. I did a quick video about my initial thoughts on the Aeon Li: https://youtu.be/zUNiVVuWUC0. When I first took it out it took some fiddling to get it set up right, but I've got it down now.	Human: Tarptent Aeon Li vs Gossamer Gear The One for single wall tent? Give me your thoughts on both tents. I am considering buying the 2020 version of the Aeon Li releasing in May or the DCF version of the One weighing in at ~16oz releasing during summer. Some points to consider: One or two trekking poles, internal room, packed size in stuff sack, venting/condensation. I am a quilt back sleeper, using a xlite. I don't want to feel like I'm sleeping in a coffin Assistant: What's supposed to be updated in the Aeon?
Human: What are some great websites besides REI, Amazon and backcountry to get some cheap quality backpacking gear? Assistant: Rei is not cheap and Amazon is not known for quality.	Human: What are some great websites besides REI, Amazon and backcountry to get some cheap quality backpacking gear? Assistant: Ebay, if you know what you are looking for
Human: Bearikade Models Capacity Comparison I’ve pretty much decided to buy once, cry once on a Bearikade canister. I’m having a lot of difficult deciding on the right model, however, and there is a TON of ~~conflicting information~~ different feedback about how many days of food the various canister models will hold. Obviously, some of this disagreement comes from what/how much food a person is packing per day. With that in mind, I’d love some feedback from folks here using any Bearikade model: What model are you using? What is the average number of days of food you’re able to carry in it? What is the maximum number of days of food you’ve ever carried in it? Please also provide an overview (general is fine but specific is better) of what you’re eating in a day/how you’re packing it (ie dehydrated home-cooked meals in ziplocs vs store bought dehydrated meals in ziplocs vs store bought dehydrated meals in original packaging, etc). Also, please note any other items you’re regularly storing in the canister (ie toiletries). For reference, the Bearikade canisters come in four sizes: Scout (500 ci/8.2L) 8 in/20cm tall Weekender (650 ci/10.7L) 10.5 in/27cm tall Blazer (750 ci/12.3 L) 12 in/30.5cm tall Expedition (900 ci/14.7L) 14.5 in/37cm tall All are the same diameter. Weights are available on the website- obviously I’d like to go with the smallest option that will hold enough food for my longest trips with no resupply (or time between resupplies) which is about 1 week, maybe even 8-9 days. Edit: spelling Assistant: As an additional option, you can ask them to custom cut any of their standard models down to a specific length/cubic space. There's no additional charge and it doesn't change the leadtime of the order. I recently ordered a Blazer cut to 11 1/4" = 703 cubic inches, which is the equivalent of a BV500. Can't speak on what will fit as I haven't received/used it yet.	Human: Bearikade Models Capacity Comparison I’ve pretty much decided to buy once, cry once on a Bearikade canister. I’m having a lot of difficult deciding on the right model, however, and there is a TON of ~~conflicting information~~ different feedback about how many days of food the various canister models will hold. Obviously, some of this disagreement comes from what/how much food a person is packing per day. With that in mind, I’d love some feedback from folks here using any Bearikade model: What model are you using? What is the average number of days of food you’re able to carry in it? What is the maximum number of days of food you’ve ever carried in it? Please also provide an overview (general is fine but specific is better) of what you’re eating in a day/how you’re packing it (ie dehydrated home-cooked meals in ziplocs vs store bought dehydrated meals in ziplocs vs store bought dehydrated meals in original packaging, etc). Also, please note any other items you’re regularly storing in the canister (ie toiletries). For reference, the Bearikade canisters come in four sizes: Scout (500 ci/8.2L) 8 in/20cm tall Weekender (650 ci/10.7L) 10.5 in/27cm tall Blazer (750 ci/12.3 L) 12 in/30.5cm tall Expedition (900 ci/14.7L) 14.5 in/37cm tall All are the same diameter. Weights are available on the website- obviously I’d like to go with the smallest option that will hold enough food for my longest trips with no resupply (or time between resupplies) which is about 1 week, maybe even 8-9 days. Edit: spelling Assistant: I have a Weekender and Expedition. I’ve used the Weekender for 9 days (1st day’s food didn’t fit). And I once did 14 days in the Expedition (again, 1st day’s food didn’t fit). 9 days in the Weekender is pretty tight. 8 days is more comfortable and 7 is easy.
Human: LighterPack Against Community Standards So I tried to post my LighterPack today on Facebook and found out that LighterPack is against their Community Standards. Anyone else have this issue? Assistant: Well fb is against MY community standards. So there.	Human: LighterPack Against Community Standards So I tried to post my LighterPack today on Facebook and found out that LighterPack is against their Community Standards. Anyone else have this issue? Assistant: I have no problems posting my lighterpack to facebook. I just did it this morning. Which facebook community were you posting your lighterpack to?
Human: Is my base weight low enough to commit to a lighter pack? If so, which one? https://lighterpack.com/r/bl0hrp The gear list: Included everything I carry, except the BV500. Didn't weigh worn clothes. Didn't weigh food/water. The situation: Over the last year or so, I've made efforts to cut down my base weight by cutting out unnecessary items and upgrading old ones (e.g. current shelter is 1/2 the weight of my older one). The general consensus on the sub seems to be to pick your pack last so you're not left with too much weight or volume in a pack built for small and light loads. My current pack is an REI Traverse 85. No, you're not misreading that number. I originally bought the pack for traveling, not backpacking. After I fell in love with backpacking, I defaulted to using it on every trip, even though most of these were 1 or 2-night excursions. But this thing is f*king huge, y'all. And it weighs 5 lb with the brain off. Is there any reason I can't ditch this behemoth and save 3 lb? Should I be making greater efforts to reduce my base weight before I commit to a lighter pack? Did anything seem excessively heavy in my gear list that could be replaced? The trips I'll be doing with this gear: I've mostly been a weekend warrior in the past (1 night, 2 night trips exclusively in California) but have a long-term goal to do longer thru-hikes, and eventually the PCT. If I do replace the pack, my budget hovers around $250 (sorry ZPacks). I've eyed the ULA circuit and it seems like a good option. Any advice? Assistant: The ULA Circuit is a good all around option. It has a lot of volume, so I use my Circuit for either longer trips or trips where I’ll want/need extra gear (fishing stuff, deeper shoulder season trips where I’ll need extra clothes and bulkier sleep insulation). I use a Gossamer Gear Kumo for shorter trips or longer three season trips when I won’t have extra gear.	Human: Is my base weight low enough to commit to a lighter pack? If so, which one? https://lighterpack.com/r/bl0hrp The gear list: Included everything I carry, except the BV500. Didn't weigh worn clothes. Didn't weigh food/water. The situation: Over the last year or so, I've made efforts to cut down my base weight by cutting out unnecessary items and upgrading old ones (e.g. current shelter is 1/2 the weight of my older one). The general consensus on the sub seems to be to pick your pack last so you're not left with too much weight or volume in a pack built for small and light loads. My current pack is an REI Traverse 85. No, you're not misreading that number. I originally bought the pack for traveling, not backpacking. After I fell in love with backpacking, I defaulted to using it on every trip, even though most of these were 1 or 2-night excursions. But this thing is f*king huge, y'all. And it weighs 5 lb with the brain off. Is there any reason I can't ditch this behemoth and save 3 lb? Should I be making greater efforts to reduce my base weight before I commit to a lighter pack? Did anything seem excessively heavy in my gear list that could be replaced? The trips I'll be doing with this gear: I've mostly been a weekend warrior in the past (1 night, 2 night trips exclusively in California) but have a long-term goal to do longer thru-hikes, and eventually the PCT. If I do replace the pack, my budget hovers around $250 (sorry ZPacks). I've eyed the ULA circuit and it seems like a good option. Any advice? Assistant: It definitely seems like the obvious place to save weight. I’ve had a circuit for 8 years. I like it. You might also look at the Ohm.
Human: Backup water treatment I use the Katadyn BeFree as my main water treatment. Love it, works great when it works great… problem is that once it starts to clog sometimes there’s not a damn thing you can do to fix it. I typically replace the cartridge once or twice a year and it’s no big deal. Went on a trip last week and it started crapping out on me the first day. To the point where by the end of the trip it was taking like 10min to squeeze a liter. Not fun… I’ve always carried back up chlorine dioxide tablets (potable aqua) in case of emergency. They weigh nothing and in the case of this last trip were super useful to treat a few liters overnight so I’d be good to go in the morning at least. Problem is that they take 4 hours to be effective. Not exactly the best solution when you’re in 85 degree sun all day and drinking a liter an hour. What’s the go-to for this sort of situation? Looking for something super lightweight that I can carry at all times as a backup and rarely have to use, but doesn’t take 4 hours to be effective. Filtering is a non issue as I’m typically pulling from high mtn (10k+) clear, clean streams. Just looking for something to sterilize for giardia and what not in a pinch. Assistant: Maybe there is some flaw in my logic, but I carry a Sawyer gravity feed filter and I always assumed if it stopped working, I would just boil water in my cook kit, so I am not carrying any extra weight. This of course does not address the possible sediment issue, but if you use tablets, don't you still have an issue with sediment?	Human: Backup water treatment I use the Katadyn BeFree as my main water treatment. Love it, works great when it works great… problem is that once it starts to clog sometimes there’s not a damn thing you can do to fix it. I typically replace the cartridge once or twice a year and it’s no big deal. Went on a trip last week and it started crapping out on me the first day. To the point where by the end of the trip it was taking like 10min to squeeze a liter. Not fun… I’ve always carried back up chlorine dioxide tablets (potable aqua) in case of emergency. They weigh nothing and in the case of this last trip were super useful to treat a few liters overnight so I’d be good to go in the morning at least. Problem is that they take 4 hours to be effective. Not exactly the best solution when you’re in 85 degree sun all day and drinking a liter an hour. What’s the go-to for this sort of situation? Looking for something super lightweight that I can carry at all times as a backup and rarely have to use, but doesn’t take 4 hours to be effective. Filtering is a non issue as I’m typically pulling from high mtn (10k+) clear, clean streams. Just looking for something to sterilize for giardia and what not in a pinch. Assistant: i only bring a BeFree filter on short trips where failure isn't a trip ruiner. otherwise i'm using a sawyer squeeze, and i keep some water tabs in my FAK as backup.
Human: Pre-filter for bad water? Curious what people are using nowadays to pre-filter bad water? MYOG setups? Been searching 1-50 micron filters on amazon and brainstorming some possible setups Assistant: If it's bad enough, I use my bandana as a pre-filter. Mind you, I don't use the bandana for much else. Mostly cooking. So, it's usually pretty clean.	Human: Pre-filter for bad water? Curious what people are using nowadays to pre-filter bad water? MYOG setups? Been searching 1-50 micron filters on amazon and brainstorming some possible setups Assistant: I use my mission cooling towel to pre-filter before my sawyer squeeze. One of my favorite purchases because it has so many uses and I carry an extra one in the summer going anywhere even when I'm not hiking.