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์ข ๋ ๊น๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ด
์๋ค, ์ธ๋ฅ์ ๋ชฉํ? | So what's the deeper, human goal? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ค์ ์์ ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ค์ ํ์ฃ . ๋ง๋๋ณธ ์ ์๋ ์ฌ๋๋ค๋ผ๋ฆฌ ์ข์ ๊ฒฝํ๊ณผ ๊ด๊ณ๋ฅผ ์ด์ด๋๊ฐ ์ ์๋๋ก ๋ง๋ค ํ์๊ฐ ์์ด์. | Well, they set their goal as the need to create lasting, positive experiences and relationships between people who've never met before. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ฐ์ฅ ๋๋ผ์ด ๊ฒ์ 2007๋
๋์ ์์๋ ์ผ์
๋๋ค. ๋์์ด๋๋ค์ ๋๋๊ฒ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ด ์ ์๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ์ ์ํ์ฃ . | And the most amazing thing about this was in 2007, they introduced a way to measure this, which is incredible. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๊ฐ ์ค๋ช
๋๋ฆด๊ฒ์. | I'll tell you how it works. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ชจ๋ ๋์์ธ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋ํด ์์ถฉํ๋ ์ธก์ ๋ฒ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์์ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋น์ ์ด ๋ญ ํ๋์ง ์์์ผ์ฃ . ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธก์ ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์
๋๋ค. | For every design goal you have, you have to have a corresponding measurement to know how you're doing -- a way of measuring success. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ธ๋ฐฉ ๋ง๋ ๋ ์ฌ๋์ ์๋ก ๋ค์ด ํจ๊ป ๋ณด๋ธ ์๋ง์ ๋ ๋ค ๊ทธ ๋ ์ค์์ ๋ช ์๊ฐ์ ํจ๊ป ๋ณด๋๋์ง ์ธก์ ํฉ๋๋ค. ๋ ์ฌ๋์ด ํจ๊ป ๋ณด๋ธ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ช ์๊ฐ์ด๋ ๋ ๊น์? | So what they do is, let's say you take two people who meet up, and they take the number of days those two people spent together, and then they estimate how many hours were in those days -- how many hours did those two people spend together? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ค์ด ํจ๊ป ์๊ฐ์ ๋ณด๋ธ ๋ค์์ ์๋ก์๊ฒ ๋ฌป์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๊ฒฝํ์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ด์์ต๋๊น? | And then after they spend that time together, they ask both of them: How positive was your experience? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋น์ ์ด ๋ง๋ฌ๋ ์ด ์ฌ๋๊ณผ ์ข์ ๊ฒฝํ์ ์์์ต๋๊น? | Did you have a good experience with this person that you met? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณค ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์ธํฐ๋ท์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ์๊ฐ์์ ๊ทธ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ด์๋ ์๊ฐ๋ค์ ๋บ๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฒ ์ถ์ ๊ฐ์ด์น๋๊น์. | And they subtract from those positive hours the amount of time people spent on the website, because that's a cost to people's lives. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ฑ๊ณต์ผ๋ก ์น๋ถํ ๊น์? | Why should we value that as success? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋น์ ์๊ฒ ๋จ์ ๊ฒ์ "์ธํฐ๋ท์ผ๋ก ํธ๊ณก๋ ์ฐ์ฃผ๊ณก"์ด๋ผ ๋ถ๋ฆด๋งํ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . ์๋๋ฉด ๊ทธ์ ์ธํฐ๋ท์ผ๋ก ์ข์ ์๊ฐ ๋ณด๋ธ๊ฑฐ๊ณ ์. | And what you were left with is something they refer to as "net orchestrated conviviality," or, really, just a net "Good Times" created. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์นด์ฐ์น ์ํ์ด ์์๋ค๋ฉด ์ธํฐ๋ท์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ผ ์๊ฐ๋ ์๊ฒ ์ฃ . | The net hours that would have never existed, had Couchsurfing not existed. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋งค์ผ ์ผํ๋ฌ ์์ ๋น์ ์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด ์ ์๋ค๋ฉด ์ผ๋ง๋ ์๊ฐ์ ์ผ์ง ์์ํด๋ณด์
จ๋์? ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ๋๋ค์ ์ถ์ ์๋กญ๊ฒ ๊ธฐ์ฌํ ์ค์ ์๊ฐ์ ๋น์ ์ด ์ค๋๋ ํ๋ ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ํ์ง ์์๋ค๋ฉด ์กด์ฌํ์ง ์์์ ์ง๋ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ . | Can you imagine how inspiring it would be to come to work every day and measure your success in the actual net new contribution of hours in people's lives that are positive, that would have never existed if you didn't do what you were about to do at work today? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ์ธ๊ณ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ์ผ์ ํ๋ค๋ฉด? | Can you imagine a whole world that worked this way? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ฉ์ ์ ๊ฐ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋ ์ง ์์ํด๋ณด์
จ๋์ . ๋น์ ์ด ์๋ฆฌ์ ๊ด์ฌ์ ๋๋คํฉ์๋ค. ๋น์ ์ด ์๋ฆฌํ ๋ฐค๋ค๊ณผ ๋น์ ์ด ์ฝ์ด์ ๊ธฐ๋ปค๋ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ค๋ก ๋น์ ์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธก์ ํ๊ณ ๋น์ ์ด ์ฝ๊ธฐ ๋ถํธํ๋ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ฌด์๋ฏธํ๊ฒ ๋ง์ฐ์ค๋ฅผ ๋ด๋ฆฌ๋ ์๊ฐ๋ค์ ์ธก์ ๋ ์๊ฐ์์ ์ฐจ๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. | Can you imagine a social network that -- let's say you care about cooking, and it measured its success in terms of cooking nights organized and the cooking articles that you were glad you read, and subtracted from that the articles you weren't glad you read or the time you spent scrolling that you didn't like? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ์ฌํ๊ธฐ๋ฐ ์๋น์ค๋ก ๋ง๋ค์ด์ง ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธก์ ํ๋ ๋์ ์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๊ธฐ์๊ฒ ์ ์๋ฐ์๋ ์ง์
๋ค๋ก ์ฑ๊ณต์ด ์ธก์ ์ด ๋๋ค๊ณ ์์์ ํด๋ณด์ธ์. | Imagine a professional social network that, instead of measuring its success in terms of connections created instead measured its success in terms of the job offers that people got that they were excited to get. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์น์ฌ์ดํธ์ ํฌ์ํ ์๊ฐ์ ๋นผ๋๊ฑฐ์ฃ . | And subtracted the amount of time people spent on the website. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋๋ ๋ฐ์ดํธ ์๋น์ค๋ฅผ ๋ด
์๋ค. ํด๋ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒ๋ค ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ค๋ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธก์ ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์ผ์ชฝ ์ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ์คํฌ๋กค์ ๋๊ธฐ๋ ๊ฑธ ์ธ๋ ๋์ ์ ๊น๊ณ , ๋ญ๋ง์ ์ด๊ณ , ์ฑ์ทจ๊ฐ ์๋ ๋๋์ ๋๊ผ๋๊ฐ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ธก์ ์ ํด๋ด
๋๋ค. | Or imagine dating services, like maybe Tinder or something, where instead of measuring the number of swipes left and right people did, which is how they measure success today, instead measured the deep, romantic, fulfilling connections people created. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ค์ ์ํ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ . | Whatever that was for them, by the way. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ด ์ธ์์ด ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋์๊ฐ๋ค๊ณ ์์ํ ์ ์๋์? ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ด ์๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ณด๋๋ค๊ณ ํ๊ธฐ์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . | But can you imagine a whole world that worked this way, that was helping you spend your time well? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด๋ฅผ ์ํด์ ์๋ก์ด ์์คํ
์ด ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ค๋๋ ์ ์ธํฐ๋ท ๊ฒฝ์ ๊ฐ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ค๋๋ ์ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ด ๋ณด๋ธ์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ธก์ ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์๊ฐํ ํ
์ฃ . | Now to do this you also need a new system, because you're probably thinking, today's Internet economy -- today's economy in general -- is measured in time spent. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฌ์ฉ์๊ฐ ๋ ๋ง์์๋ก ์ฌ์ฉ๋ฅ ์ด ๋ ๋์์๋ก ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ์๊ฐ์ ๋ ์ธ์๋ก ์ด ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ์ฒ๋๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฅด์ฃ . | The more users you have, the more usage you have, the more time people spend, that's how we measure success. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ์ง๋ง ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฌธ์ ๋ฅผ ํ์์ต๋๋ค. | But we've solved this problem before. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ ๋ง ๊นจ๋ํ๊ฒ ํด๊ฒฐํ์ฃ . ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ๋งค๊ฒจ์ผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ํ ๋ | We solved it with organic, when we said we need to value things a different way. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด๊ฒ์ด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ข
๋ฅ๋ผ๊ณ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ํ์ฃ . | We said this is a different kind of food. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋์ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋น๊ตํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด๊ฑด ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒ์ฃผ์ ์์์ด๋๊น์. | So we can't compare it just based on price; this is a different category of food. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฆ๋ช
์ผ๋ก ํด๊ฒฐํ์ต๋๋ค. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ข
๋ฅ์ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ ๊ณณ์์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ ์ง์๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ ๋ํ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ธ์ ์ฃ . | We solved it with Leed Certification, where we said this is a different kind of building that stood for different values of environmental sustainability. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด๊ฒ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ ์ฉํ๋ค๋ฉด์? | What if we had something like that for technology? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด์ฒด์ ๋ชฉํ์ ๋ชฉ์ ์ด ์ธ๋ฅ์ ์ถ์ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ธํฐ๋ท ์์์ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ค๋ฉด์? | What if we had something whose entire purpose and goal was to help create net new positive contributions to human life? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ๋งค๊ธธ ์ ์๋ค๋ฉด์. ์ ๋ง๋ก ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์ฉํ ๊น์? | And what if we could value it a different way, so it would actually work? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด ์ฑ์คํ ์ด์์ ํ๋ฆฌ๋ฏธ์ ์ ๋ฐ์คํ์ด์ค๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณตํ๋ค๊ณ ์์ํด๋ณด์ธ์. | Imagine you gave this different premium shelf space on app stores. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ค๋ฅธ ๋์์ธ ์ํ๋ค๋ก ์ด๋์ด ์ค ์ ์๋ ์น๋ธ๋ผ์ฐ์ ๊ฐ ์์๋ค๊ณ ์์ํด๋ณด์ธ์. | Imagine you had web browsers that helped route you to these kinds of design products. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ธ์์ ์ฐฝ์กฐํด์ ์ด๋ฉด ์ผ๋ง๋ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ก์ธ์ง ์์ํด๋ดค์ด์? | Can you imagine how exciting it would be to live and create that world? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ค๋๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ์ธ์์ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. | We can create this world today. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ์ฌ์ ์ง๋์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ด ํ ์ผ์ ์๋ก์ด ๋ฏธํฐ๋ฒ ์ธ๋ฅ์ ์ธํฐ๋ท ์ถ์ ๊ธ์ ์ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋ ๋ฏธํฐ๋ฒ์ ์ฐ์ ์์๋ก ๋๊ณ | Company leaders, all you have to do -- only you can prioritize a new metric, which is your metric for net positive contribution to human life. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ์งํ ๋ํ๋ฅผ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. | And have an honest conversation about that. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์๋ง ์์์ด ์ข์ง ์์ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ด ๋ํ๋ฅผ ์์ํด๋ณด์ฃ . | Maybe you're not doing so well to start with, but let's start that conversation. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋์์ด๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ฑ๊ณต๊ณผ ๋์์ธ์ ์ฌ์ ์ ํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. | Designers, you can redefine success; you can redefine design. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฃผ์ฅํ๊ฑด๋ฐ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ ๋น์ ์ ์กฐ์ง์ ์๋ ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค๋ณด๋ค ์ด์๊ฐ ์ ์๋ ์ ํ๊ถ์ ๋ง๋๋๋ฐ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ํ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. | Arguably, you have more power than many people in your organization to create the choices that all of us live by. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์๋ฃ๊ณ์๋ ํํฌํฌ๋ผํ
์ค์ ์ ์๊ฐ ์์ด ํ์๋ค์ ๋๋ณผ ๋ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฐ์น์ ์ฑ
์์ ์ธ์งํด์ผ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ฒ๋ผ | Maybe like in medicine, where we have a Hippocratic oath to recognize the responsibility and this higher value that we have to treat patients. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋์์ด๋๋ค๋ ์๋ก์ด ๋์์ธ์ ๋ํด ๊ทธ์ ๋น์ทํ ๊ฒ ์๋ค๋ฉด ์ด๋จ๊น์? | What if designers had something like that, in terms of this new kind of design? | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฌ์ฉ์๋ค์ ์ํด ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์ฉํ๋ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์๊ตฌํ ์ ์๋๊ฑฐ์ฃ . | And users, for all of us -- we can demand technology that works this way. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ๋ค ์ ์์ ๊ฒ๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์๋น์์ ์๊ตฌ๊ฐ ์์๋ค๋ฉด ๋งฅ๋๋ ๋์ ์๋ฌ๋๊ฐ ์์๊ฒ ์ฃ . | Now it may seem hard, but McDonald's didn't have salads until the consumer demand was there. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์๋น์์ ์๊ตฌ๊ฐ ์์๋ค๋ฉด ์๋งํธ์ ์ ๊ธฐ๋ ์์์ด ์์๊ฒ ์ฃ . | Walmart didn't have organic food until the consumer demand was there. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋ก์ด ์ข
๋ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์๊ตฌํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. | We have to demand this new kind of technology. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ ์ ์์ด์. | And we can do that. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค์ฒ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ์๊ฐ๋ง์ ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ๋ก ์ด์ฉ๋ ์ธ์์ผ๋ก๋ถํฐ ์ ์ฌ์ฉํ ์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก ์ด์ฉ๋๋ ์ธ์์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ๊พธ๋ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . | And doing that would amount to shifting from a world that's driven and run entirely on time spent, to world that's driven by time well spent. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๋ ์ด ์ธ์์ ์ด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. ์ด ๋ํ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฃจ์ด์ก์ผ๋ฉด ํฉ๋๋ค. | I want to live in this world, and I want this conversation to happen. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด ๋ํ๋ฅผ ์์ํฉ์๋ค. | Let's start that conversation now. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. | Thank you. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋ ๋๋ฆ์ ํธ๊ฒฌ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. | So we all have our own biases. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๋๊ตฐ๊ฐ๋ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ฃ . ๋ชฐ๋ฝํด ๊ฐ๋ ์ ๋ถ ์ ๋๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๊พธ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋งค์ฐ ์ด๋ ต๋ค๊ณ ๋ง์ด์์. | For example, some of us tend to think that it's very difficult to transform failing government systems. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ ๋ถ ์ ๋๋ฅผ ๋ ์ฌ๋ฆด ๋ ๊ตฌ์์ด๋ฉฐ ๋๋ฆ๋๋ก ๊ณ ์ ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ด ์๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋์ฝ์ด ๋๋ฌด ๊ด๋ฃ์ ์ด์ด์ ๋ฐ๊ฟ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. | When we think of government systems, we tend to think that they're archaic, set in their ways, and perhaps, the leadership is just too bureaucratic to be able to change things. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๋ ์ค๋ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ก ์ ๋ฐ๊ฟ ๋ณด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค. | Well, today, I want to challenge that theory. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ค๋๋ฆด ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ ์์ฃผ ํฐ ์ ๋ถ ์ฒด๊ณ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ก์ ๊ฐํ์ ๊ธธ์ ์ฌ๋ผ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๊ฝค ๊ฒฝ์ด์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค ์ ๋ถ ์ฒด๊ณ์
๋๋ค. 3๋
๋ ์ ๋ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . | I want to tell you a story of a very large government system that has not only put itself on the path of reform but has also shown fairly spectacular results in less than three years. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด ๋ชจ์ต์ด ์ธ๋ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ๊ต ๊ต์ค์ ๋ชจ์ต์
๋๋ค. | This is what a classroom in a public school in India looks like. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ธ๋์๋ ์ ๋ฐ ํ๊ต๊ฐ 100๋ง ๊ณณ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. | There are 1 million such schools in India. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ธ๋์์ ํ์์ ์ด์ ์จ ์ ๋ ์ด๋ฐ ํ๊ต์ ๋ฐ์ ๋ค์ฌ ๋๋๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ๊ฝค ๊ฐ์ด ์ํ ์ผ์
๋๋ค. | And even for me, who's lived in India all her life, walking into one of these schools is fairly heartbreaking. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์์ด๋ค์ด 11์ด์ด ๋๋ฉด 50ํผ์ผํธ๊ฐ ๊ต์ก์์ ํ์ฐธ ๋ค์ณ์ง๋๋ค. ํ๋ณตํ ํฌ๋ง์ด ์ ํ ์์ฃ . | By the time kids are 11, 50 percent of them have fallen so far behind in their education that they have no hope to recover. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
11์ด๋ ์์ด๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ง์
๋ ํ ์ ์์ผ๋ฉฐ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ํํ ๋ฌธ์ฅ์ ๋ง๋ค์ด ๋ด์ง๋ ๋ชปํฉ๋๋ค. | 11-year-olds cannot do simple addition, they cannot construct a grammatically correct sentence. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
8์ด ์์ด๊ฐ ํ ์ ์์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ธ๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . | These are things that you and I would expect an 8-year-old to be able to do. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์์ด๋ค์ด 13์ด ๋๋ 14์ด์ด ๋๋ฉด ํ๊ต๋ฅผ ์คํดํ๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. | By the time kids are 13 or 14, they tend to drop out of schools. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ธ๋์์ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ๊ต๋ ๊ต์ก์ ๋ฌด๋ฃ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ๊ต๊ณผ์, ์ฐ์ต ๋ฌธ์ ์ง, ์์ฌ๋ ๋ฌด๋ฃ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํฉ๋๋ค. ์ข
์ข
์ฅํ๊ธ์ ํ๊ธ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณตํ๊ธฐ๋ ํ์ฃ . | In India, public schools not only offer free education -- they offer free textbooks, free workbooks, free meals, sometimes even cash scholarships. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ผ์๋ ์์ฆ ๋ถ๋ชจ๋ค 40ํผ์ผํธ๋ ์๋
๋ค์ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ๊ต์์ ๋๊ณ ๋์์ ์๋น๋ก ์ฌ๋ฆฝํ๊ต์ ๋ณด๋
๋๋ค. | And yet, 40 percent of the parents today are choosing to pull their children out of public schools and pay out of their pockets to put them in private schools. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ ํจ์ฌ ๋ ๋ถ์ ํ ๋๋ผ์ ๋น๊ตํด ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ๊ทธ ์๊ฐ ๊ณ ์ 10ํผ์ผํธ์
๋๋ค. | As a comparison, in a far richer country, the US, that number is only 10 percent. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ธ๋์ ๊ณต๋ฆฝ๊ต์ก์ด ์ผ๋ง๋ ๋ง๊ฐ์ก๋์ง๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ์ด๋ง์ด๋งํ ์์น์
๋๋ค. | That's a huge statement on how broken the Indian public education system is. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด๋ฐ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์์ 2013๋
์ฌ๋ฆ ์ ํ ํํต์ ๋ฐ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ผ์์ด๋ผ๋ ์์ฃผ ์๋ฆฌํ ์ฌ์ฑ์ด์์ฃ . | So it was with that background that I got a call in the summer of 2013 from an absolutely brilliant lady called Surina Rajan. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋น์ ๊ทธ๋
๋ ํ๋ฆฌ์๋๋ผ๋ ์ธ๋์ ์ฃผ์์ ๊ต์ก๋ถ ์์ฅ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋
๊ฐ ๋งํ์ด์. | She was, at that time, the head of the Department of School Education in a state called Haryana in India. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
"๋ณด์ธ์. ์ต๊ทผ 2๋
๋์ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ต์ก๋ถ๋ฅผ ์ด๋๊ณ ์์ด์. | So she said to us, "Look, I've been heading this department for the last two years. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ ์๋ํ์ง๋ง ์๋ฌด ํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์์ด์. | I've tried a number of things, and nothing seems to work. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํน์ ๋์ ์ค ์ ์๊ฒ ์ด์?" | Can you possibly help?" | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ๋ฆฌ์๋ ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๋ถ์๊ฒ ์กฐ๊ธ ์ค๋ช
ํด ๋๋ฆด๊ฒ์. | Let me describe Haryana a little bit to you. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
ํ๋ฆฌ์๋๋ 3์ฒ๋ง ์ธ๊ตฌ์ ์ฃผ์
๋๋ค. | Haryana is a state which has 30 million people. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
1๋ง 5์ฒ ๊ณณ์ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ๊ต๊ฐ ์๊ณ 2๋ฐฑ๋ง ๋ช
์ด ๋๋ ์์ด๋ค์ด ์ด ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ๊ต์ ๋ค๋๋๋ค. | It has 15,000 public schools and 2 million plus children in those public schools. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ทธ ์ ํ๋ก ์ธํด ์ ๋ ์ฃผ์ ์ฒด๊ณ๋ฅผ ๋๊ธฐ๋ก ์ฝ์ํ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. ํ๋ฃจ๋ ์บ๋๋ค๋งํผ์ด๋ ํฐ ์ฃผ๊ฐ ๊ฐํ์ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ ๋๊ธฐ๋ก ํ ๊ฒ์ด์ฃ . | So basically, with that phone call, I promised to help a state and system which was as large as that of Peru or Canada transform itself. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด ์ผ์ ์์ํ๋ฉฐ ์์ฃผ ๊ณ ํต์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฐ์ง๋ฅผ ์๊ฒ ๋์ต๋๋ค. | As I started this project, I was very painfully aware of two things. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฒซ์งธ, ์ด๋ฐ ์ผ์ ํ ๋ฒ๋ ํด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด์์ต๋๋ค. | One, that I had never done anything like this before. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋์งธ, ๋ค๋ฅธ ๋ค์๊ฐ ์ฑ๊ณต์ ๋ชป ํ์ฃ . | And two, many others had, perhaps without too much success. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋๋ฃ๋ค๊ณผ ์ ๋ ๋๋ผ ์ ์ญ๊ณผ ์ธ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ดค์ต๋๋ค. ํ๋ฆฌ์๋์์ ๋ฐ๋ผํ ์ ์๋ ์๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์ ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. | As my colleagues and I looked across the country and across the world, we couldn't find another example that we could just pick up and replicate in Haryana. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ค์ค๋ก ๊ธธ์ ๋ง๋ค์ด์ผ ํ์ฃ . | We knew that we had to craft our own journey. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด์จ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ณง์ฅ ๋ฐ์ด ๋ค์๊ณ ๋ฐ์ด ๋ค์๋ง์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ข
๋ฅ์ ์์ด๋์ด๋ค์ด ๋ ์์ค๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ด์. | But anyway, we jumped right in and as we jumped in, all sorts of ideas started flying at us. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๋งํ์ฃ . "๊ต์ฌ ์ฑ์ฉ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ฐ๊ฟ์๋ค." "์๋ก ๊ต์ฅ์ ์ฑ์ฉํด ํ๋ จ์ํค๊ณ ์ธ๊ตญ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐฐ์ฐ๋ ์ฌํ์ ๋ณด๋
์๋ค." "๊ต์ค์ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ฌ์์๋ค." | People said, "Let's change the way we recruit teachers, let's hire new principals and train them and send them on international learning tours, let's put technology inside classrooms." | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฒซ ์ฃผ๊ฐ ๋๋ ๋ฌด๋ ต์ 50๊ฐ์ ์์ด๋์ด๊ฐ ๋์์ฃ . ๋ชจ๋ ๋๋๊ณ ๋ชจ๋ ๊ด์ฐฎ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ธ์ต๋๋ค. | By the end of week one, we had 50 ideas on the table, all amazing, all sounded right. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
50๊ฐ์ ์์ด๋์ด๋ฅผ ์คํํ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. | There was no way we were going to be able to implement 50 things. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๊ฐ ๋งํ์ฃ . "์ ๊น๋ง์. ๋ฉ์ถฐ์." | So I said, "Hang on, stop. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
"์ต์ํ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฑ์ทจํ๋ ค๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ๋จผ์ ๊ฒฐ์ ํฉ์๋ค." | Let's first at least decide what is it we're trying to achieve." | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋์ ๋ง์ ๋ฐ๊ณ ๋น๊ธฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋
ผ์ ๋์ ํ๋ฆฌ์๋๋ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์ธ์ ์ต๋๋ค. "2020๋
๊น์ง ์์ด๋ค 80ํผ์ผํธ๊ฐ ํ๋
์์ค์ ์ง์์ ๊ฐ์ถ๊ธธ ์ํ๋ค." | So with a lot of push and pull and debate, Haryana set itself a goal which said: by 2020, we want 80 percent of our children to be at grade-level knowledge. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ๋ชฉํ์ ์ธ๋ถ ์ฌํญ๋ค์ ์ค์ํ์ง ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ค์ํ ๊ฒ์ ๋ชฉํ๊ฐ ์ผ๋ง๋ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ๊ฐ ํ๋ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. | Now the specifics of the goal don't matter here, but what matters is how specific the goal is. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ชฉํ๊ฐ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ด๋ฉด ๋์ ธ์ง ๋ง์ ์์ด๋์ด๋ค ์ค์์ ์ด๋ค ๊ฒ์ ์คํํ ์ ์๋์ง ๋งํ ์ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์
๋๋ค. | Because it really allowed us to take all those ideas which were being thrown at us and say which ones we were going to implement. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ด ์์ด๋์ด๊ฐ ์ด ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ๋ท๋ฐ์นจํ๋๊ฐ? ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ์ ์งํฉ์๋ค. | Does this idea support this goal? If yes, let's keep it. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์๊ฑฐ๋ ํ์คํ์ง ์๋ค๋ฉด ์ ์ณ๋์์๋ค. ๋ค๋ฆฌ๋๋งํผ ๋จ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ์์ฃผ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋ชฉํ๋ฅผ ์ ๋ฉด์ ์ธ์ฐ๋ฉด ๋ณํ๋ฅผ ์ํ ์ฌ์ ์์ ๋งค์ฐ ์๋ฆฌํด์ง๊ณ ์ง์คํ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค. | As simple as it sounds, having a very specific goal right up front has really allowed us to be very sharp and focused in our transformation journey. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ง๋ 2๋
๋ฐ์ ๋๋์ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ์์๊ฐ ๋์์ต๋๋ค. | And looking back over the last two and a half years, that has been a huge positive for us. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ชฉํ๊ฐ ์์๊ณ ์ด์ ๋ ๋ฌด์์ด ๋ฌธ์ ์ธ์ง ๋ฌด์์ด ๋ง๊ฐ์ก๋์ง ์์๋ด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. | So we had the goal, and now we needed to figure out what are the issues, what is broken. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๊ต๋ฅผ ์ดํด๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ ์ ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๋งํ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ต์ก ์ํ๊ฐ ํํธ์๋ค. ์๋ํ๋ฉด ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ด ๊ฒ์ผ๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋ ํ๊ต์ ๋์ค์ง ์๋๋ค. ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ด ๋ฌด๋ฅ๋ ฅํ๋ฉฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ๊ฐ๋ฅด์น๋ ๋ฒ์ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋ค. | Before we went into schools, a lot of people told us that education quality is poor because either the teachers are lazy, they don't come into schools, or they're incapable, they actually don't know how to teach. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํ๊ต ์์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ ๋ ์์ ํ ๋ค๋ฅด๋ค๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์๋์ต๋๋ค. | Well, when we went inside schools, we found something completely different. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ ์ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ ์ค์ ๋ก ํ๊ต ์์ ์์์ต๋๋ค. | On most days, most teachers were actually inside schools. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ทธ๋ค๊ณผ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ๋ฉด ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ด ์๋ฒฝํ๊ฒ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๊ต์ ๋ฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์์์ ๊นจ๋ฌ์ ๊ฒ์
๋๋ค. | And when you spoke with them, you realized they were perfectly capable of teaching elementary classes. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๊ทธ๋ ์ง๋ง ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ ๊ฐ๋ฅด์น๊ณ ์์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค. | But they were not teaching. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
์ ๊ฐ ํ ํ๊ต์ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์์๋ ๊ต์ฌ๋ค์ด ๊ต์ค์ด๋ ํ์ฅ์ค ์ธ์ฐ๋ ์ผ์ ๊ฐ๋
ํ๊ณ ์์์ต๋๋ค. | I went to a school where the teachers were getting the construction of a classroom and a toilet supervised. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |
๋ค๋ฅธ ํ๊ต์ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์์๋ ๋ ๋ช
์ ๊ต์ฌ๊ฐ ๊ทผ์ฒ ์ํ ์ง์ ์ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ์์ด๋ค์ ๊ณ์ข๋ก ์ฅํ๊ธ์ ์์นํ๊ธฐ ์ํด์์์ฃ . | I went to another school where two of the teachers had gone to a nearby bank branch to deposit scholarship money into kids' accounts. | IWSLT2017 | null | null | null |